TAKE 17 - Our 1 Year Anniversary

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
M H. Welcome everybody to another episode of Uneducated MMA,
or should I say another special episode of Uneducated MMA,
because this, ladies and gentlemen, is the one year anniversary

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of We made it. We made it, We made it,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I thought it would shut down after episode one. I'm
not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I walked out of that barber studio and I was like, Man,
those trash I'm gonna lie you. I'm not gonna lie
to you. I got the bug right away, and I
knew that we would keep on going. And we're gonna
keep on this, yeah, but especially you. Along the way.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
We've changed a couple of things, you know what I mean,
added some great friends onto the show, and we're going
to keep growing and evolving and bringing you guys this
great product in this great show. Obviously mostly because we
have fun doing it, and I would probably keep doing
it even if you didn't watch.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
But we're here for it. We're here for it.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Along with that, we have a lot of crazy news
coming up. Going over today's big card, I would have
to say is UFC three thirteen has got to be
the biggest news on hand. Other than that, I can't
wait we got a couple of random things we're going
to talk about along the way, as we normally do.
But you know, welcome to the show, everybody. So first
things first, how y'all doing.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
How you're doing? Good? Man? It feels good to be back.
I was on VAK and I missed this shit. Yeah
it was good, bro. You know, the weather was nice,
the drinks were cold, it was lovely. It was lovely.
But you know, it feels good to be back.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
You know, it's good to take that little break, but
it feels good to be right back into the hustle.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I feel that. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
While you went somewhere warmer, I went somewhat colder. I
went up to Maine for the weekend. How was that
it was cold?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Man?

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:03):
You to make a firewood the middle of nowhere. Hey, man,
if you can make it out of that, you're good.
You can make out of anything. I stayed my ass
right here, bro. I didn't go nowhere, unfortunately, not yet anywhere.
Someone got to keep the balance.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I said, we take a squad triple. We do this
like somewhere tropical. We go to d R to the
beach and we just set up the podcast table. Something
nice like a ring.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I wouldn't happen podcast to gone in the in the
middle of the sand.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
We're just gonna set it up with the steel cage.
We get a couple of people. Yeah, yeah, I feel
get it going.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Culture, Yeah, such degenerates. Man everywhere going like you probably
fight here. Set up. Let's set up some bumpers and
I made some light in the streets in the back alleys.
D r s Onantiago. You know what I mean? Number one,
there is no rules. There is no rules. There is
no rules, even though that's a rule, but there's no rules.
There's no rule. All right, so your I guess your episode.

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Reflecting back, how do we feel about that? I didn't
even just do the whole intro or nothing. I just
wanted to see how I felt weird? Felt weird? Nah,
really time flew bro I felt a little weirded for me.
I didn't do the whole thing, the whole presentation. I'm
gonna do it anyway. Yeah, yeah, let it up.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Set it up, all right, and joining me to my
left is the co host the b Yeah, f champion
enough work Orrie.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Bend this justin just live that's the fight. It's like
fucking sorry, I just I was like, ahead, let me
check in on these guys. Because I walked in, I
had to set some stuff up.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I didn't get the chance to say hello to do
that first, but I always like to do the intro.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
But anyway, another of you guys is all right.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
So UFC three thirteen coming up this weekend, ladies and gentlemen,
we have the champion, Shama Alex pet Versus finally, as
some would say, the number one contender for the belt.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Maga mat Uncle Lia Now team Sham. This is I
know Team Chama all day. I'm not gonna lie you.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
We're gonna start off this off bat where there's no
there's no michaelmed Uncle.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I have love here. I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
The dude's a good fighter. I'm not gonna hate on him.
But at the same time, Chama, you know what I mean,
Arrow in the whole nine. Yeah, this is this is
gonna be a fight that has been a long time coming.
A lot of people and I would say, like on Internet,
I would say, like Twitter and whatnot, I'm not gonna
call it. X has been waiting for this one to
be to be called for something about Alex needs to
fight a wrestler, he needs to get somebody that will

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grapple with him is one weakness. But yet they send
a guy who mainly.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Kicked boxes to go fight him. That just because he's.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Rushing from that him a fake Dagistani.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Bro, he's not even he's not even exactly. There's nothing
to do with those.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Guys Augustani that might make people think he's gonna wrestle.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Bro, I'm not gonna lee to you. A part of me.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Just they saw a guy who was rushing that didn't
have the mustache connecting to the beard, and they're.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Like, he's one of them.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
He's one of those guys will satisfy the fans and
the haters with this fucking I don't understand like where
I mean, I guess it's one of those things you
see like appearances maybe deceiving, but who knows.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Maybe he shoots for like forty five takedowns, hits him
with the old like the morob devolish really you know,
shuffle or something. But I don't know, man, I feel
like they could have picked somebody else to be the wrestler,
the grappler that would have done it. But I mean,
he got his due, you.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Know what I mean, he put in that position then
to be that.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
The thing is the trash part about like the light
heavyweight division is there's not really a lot of wrestlers
in that division. I feel like you kind of have
to work your way all the way down to the
rankings to get to people that, like, I guess focus
on it more is the way I would kind of
word no, no, no. That would be middleweight. So even then
he'd have to bulke up to try to get up there.
That's what I'm saying, Like, you really gotta I can't
even think of any like that's the problem, right, bon

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Nichol is supposed to fight too, and he got announced
to fight Nata.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Ridder Yeah Ridder Bro that was going to be a
good one.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So that's the one that people also saying are supposed
to be the one that take him down. Everyone's always
waiting for that, I know, right for those of youse
wonderfy we're laughing. We're looking at the UFC's website page
right now of the fight.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I'm not gonna lie like a sketch.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I don't know image they made for either one of
these guys, but it's worse than the UFC five game.
I'm not gonna lie uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Worse than the UFC two games. Bro, It's real bad.
Does look like the Rock's Yeah, he's smooth in the face.
He's like the Rock stun double right here.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
I don't like it. It makes me uncomfortable. I'm gonna get
off that screen right now. Bro, Bro AI is ruining everything.
I don't know what's going on, what's even real. They
don't get artists for anything anymore. They're just like, just
throw it in, Ai, We're gonna make an image. We're
gonna put it up.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm looking at the rankings right now for the light
heavyweight division. I'm gonna be honest with you. Most of
these guys are not even a little close to being
a wrestler. We got at least in the top five Uncliath,
Yuri Prahaska, Yan Behovich, Jamal Hill, and Rackete.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
None of those guys. Yeah, none of those guys.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
That's why if I'm him, I stay in that the vision,
no for sure, because the only thing is you move
up to heavyweight, you have two guys you're gonna fight.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
You're either gonna fight John Jones or you're gonna fight
Tom Aspinall.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Both of which will roster and they will just finish
you on the ground. Pause. There's no other way to
talk about it. Guys. I am so sorry. This is
a sport.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I know, right, I'm so sorry. It felt wrong saying it,
but I'm not wrong. Though. If he moves up to heavyweight, Listen,
the bag is there. We talked about this several times.
The money he would make is crazy he moves up
to heavyweight. But the challenge is you're most.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Likely gonna lose. It's it's it is.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
It is all the odds, I would argue, are most
likely against you unless you land that left hook.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Early, unless it's just like proof to everybody that you're
really like superhuman.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, that's the thing, and at that point you're kind
of well, I guess Tom Aspinall is the only one
that you wouldn't necessarily throw in there. But I would say,
like John Jones Alex, they're both like in this weird
mystical era of these guys that are like whoa they
John Jones undefeated, and then you have Alex Barra Chama
as a YERI said, he's got that black.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Magic, the voodoo magic, the dark magic.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I'm about him. He's got that energy, the dark cloud
around him.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I see like his his punch like on the on
the meter, it was like one of the strong punch.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I'm telling you, I think they everybody was like hyperbout
Francis and then and then he came out of nowhere
and you got Alex's throwing his left hook like a
bomb and he's just landing them like crazy. And the
worst part is you watch the tape, it doesn't look
like it lands like that far Like, it doesn't look
like he's like some of these like punches. You see
the wind up and it lands like Max Holloway just
engage you. When they did the slowdown of it, you're like, yo,

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he that was like a baseball bat to the face.
He wound out and he hit him hard. But when
Alex is.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right there and then they just go to bed, you
see their whole body shut down.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
You're like lights out, bro.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I don't I couldn't even imagine if he was coming
at you. He was mad, bro, Like I don't know,
Like I feel like you would not get back up.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
He's like a true warrior. He's a terminator. Yeah, Trauma.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I also love that man. It's the perfect thing to
just end a sentence. Was just chama o Tauma.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
You've seen him like walking around the streets just handing money. Yeah,
shout out, Yeah, that's what's up at this point. Handed
out ro Good for him, tama who hands up? That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I feel like he's gonna definitely get through this test
pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I'm gonna put my bed in there for like round one,
round two, knockout Uncle Live.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like I said, I've just watched his fights before.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
He either wins by decision or he can win by
a ko I don't think he's ever won by sub
For the most part, he strikes with a lot of
these guys, a lot of kicks and such, and Alex
does those light kicks that are gonna shut him down.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
And then that left. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I feel bad because it's like I think, I think
ale Live has what it takes to be a champion,
but it's one of those things.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Again, we have this conversation a lot. Unfortunately, there's a
guy that's holding that belt that's just better than It
doesn't matter what I think.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
They just they said, set up this fight to make
us think that there's a chance that he might lose,
but realistically, Alex is just gonna destroy this.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
They saw a Russian that doesn't have the mustache connected
the beat, and they were like, Dagistan Kabib and then
he was like, I mean dagistand yeah Kabib No, And
they think he's some sort of wrestling.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's just not what it is.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I understand. Like you see, Alex has the kickboxing background,
and all of his fight so far have been like striking,
So I understand the idea of like a wrestlers supposed
to be the one to get him.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
But if you can get close enough, Bro, I'm even.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Looking at the top ten, there's nobody really that's none
of them, I think really shoot ever, even like Carlos
get to six to ten, because I already said one
through five, Carlos Oldberg, Khalio Rowntree Junior, they keep to
cry off Vulcan Ozdemir, and Johnny Walker. Not a single

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one of them are a wrestler. If you cut wait
went down well he I mean remember when he was
chirping towards the DDP, where he was just like all
cut back down to one eighty five.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I don't think that's happening. So either I don't think
that's happening. Plus I think you can take them.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm not gonna lie. A part of me is just
like just run light heavyweight. Think about how much he
gets paid just to just knock these dudes out in
one to.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Direct yeah, yeah, and say traumaauma and it just fucking
pull up with the face paint and ship because.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Like you could do yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Could do the big money fight with like a Tom
Aspinall a little bit later because he is on the
older side right now, alex Is, he's already like I
think he's like thirty five, thirty six, which is like,
I know, crazy the same. How many more fights you
think he got. I think he's got like four or
five in the UFC at least before he does something
like dumb like boxing or something like that just to get.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like damn sitting on boxing. Bro.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
No.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
But in the sense of like who would he like
you know what I mean? It's not like I get
what I could be, like a fight that would be
put together by like some crazy promotion like Jake Paul's
or something like that along. Now, I get you.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I guess I feel like with the elite boxers right
now that really hesitant to put him against you. You
guys know for sure who knows, right, it'd be crazy
to watch him fight, Like I don't know, Anthony Joshua.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Just see him woke up and see if he can
do it.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, right, you've seen you seen him training I guess
versus some Asian like uh boxer or whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
He was getting some good legs on and get him
with like a body shot that took him down. Yeah yeah,
I mean you know that was training.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yet you practice, you're boxing, you know what I mean.
I don't know's it's not obviously to the extent of
a boxer. That's why, like I think it's a level
of difficulty for an MMA fighter to get into a
boxing ring because they just sharpened the craft of boxing exactly.
But it's like, I don't know, I don't know if
he's I don't know what his career trajectory is going

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to look like. I would say, run light heavyweight for
a while later on Tom Aspernal is still going to
be there.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
You take that Tom Aspinal fight. Yeah, to walk away
after I feel like they should.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Just jump into wrestling instead of boxing. Like imagine if
Francis was a wrestler instead of a boxer, like if
he did like what brock Lessner did versus Anthony, Like
magine right now.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
In ww they definitely could, they definitely could.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I think that that's going to be a path for
a lot of these guys. Like I don't know if
you guys saw the news with Kobe Covington was already
talking about like probably afterwards he's going to go to
the w WE, So we already see his whole thing.
He even came out to Kurt Angle's theme song and everything.
So I see that path easy. But I think it's
a good pathway for a lot of these guys just
decided to like pivot, let's go to the w W.
Also like bare knuckle boxing and just get up out

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of here. You know, people want to see it by people.
I mean, I think it'd be a good career path.
I supported Kobe go ahead.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I think y're going to power slap. We're with it.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Power slap, power slazy, power slop would be a wild
get it done page.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
She did slap.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
She also did bare knuckle for her She's done a
lot actually lie to you if you look up, like
her career after the UFC and probably even a little
bit before, she's like dabbled in a lot of different
like combat ventures.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, and it's cool to see somebody do that like that.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I feel like that's that's an interesting path that you
gotta be a little careful.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Like bare Knuckle still scares me, man.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, I think you get like three fights maximum and
bare Knuckle you should, like your face does not withstand.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
More than three. At least give yourself some good time.
Like Mike Perry, Perry right now being the face of
bare Knuckle, how long we think he's there, He's got
I think two or three right now. Yeah. Probably. I
don't see anybody like running ship.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
I feel like everybody's gonna be somebody that wins and
then maybe one or two title defenses.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
That's the thing with fights, bro, It's just you know,
you have a certain time frame you do you do
that's prime time, and then that's someone else's prime.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's why it's also tricky with stuff like the Michael
Chandler Connor McGregor fight. Like at a certain point, like
with Michael Chandler, like I kept saying, Bro, you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
You're gonna miss the window. Just fight now. Who cares?
Now he's fighting Patty Pittmulan, Like, good that guy. I
wouldn't say it's the matchup he wanted, but it's definitely
one that's it's definitely better than not fighting nobody.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, a lot better than not fighting nobody. But that's
what it's also getting paid, like I don't know what
the us he does in the background of Like, you're
scheduled to fight on June of this year, Yes, canceled.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
That doesn't happen for three years. Do they pay you
in the meantime, Yeah, dipping into your own pockets. Nah,
I've been training this whole time. I don't think that
that's how it works, man, I don't think so either.
I think they pay you for what you do, and
if you don't do, you don't get paid. But it
might be like a little bit. It depends.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
It depends if they signed any contracts in regards for
that year.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I don't know. A little sponsorship is like a small check. Well,
those are different. I think that'll feed you. But that's
why it's important.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
If there's any cancelation, I need at least thirty of whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
The cancel well, that's cancelation is different.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
I think you might get something if it gets moved
or something like that. But if it gets canceled, I
think you get paid or something. But I'm talking it
just doesn't happen for two three years due to like
scheduling conflicts here, injury here.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
But that is not my problem. If I'm Michael Chandler,
so due to my contract. That's why their contracts and
lawyer's gotta be tight.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
No, man, I wonder, I wonder what that looks like
for him.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
That's crazy. Don't they got to release contracts? Yeah, this
to be something they release contract You.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Know why, bro? You kidding me?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
They're already in a lawsuit over not paying a contract released.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
No contracts. That might be at some point part of it.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
But like it's the same thing with like most sports,
I feel like they tell you.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
A number that is definitely not the real number. Like
I don't. I don't believe especially basketball, in baseball or
football they give you the exact numbers that they're actually
getting paid park ranges only in soccer? Do you think
soccer soccer be getting paid? It's just they lied to
you in soccer, I'd be upset.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, I'd be upset for them unless it was way
more than it. Like you guys are discussing how much
money do you make? It's crazy, it's dude, it's insane.
I thought baseball players got paid a lot.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
You know, Soccer in the wrong sport. We're gonna just
one day, one day, We're just gonna changeup the whole pot.
It's just gonna be full soccer, full soccer.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
The whole nine is gonna want to get paid in
soccer and in football.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Pay me in both, pay me and both.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Looking at the yeah right, speaking of looking at the
UC page right now, it's crazy though that there, it's
pretty much a pick him.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Alex is a.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Minus one twelve, and then that's crazy. Magomed is a
minus Want to wait, that's that's.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Crazy to think it's too close. So I'm about to
just put money on the trauma because I.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Say you should as well.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
See here's my thing though, and this this, this is
if you're a fan of the show, which I know
all of you are.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
If you go back right, there was an episode where
I was like, easy Kamara Usman got this. He's beaten.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Leon Edwards nothing super fast. And then somebody who may
or may not be sitting behind the camera right now, guess.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Nah, I bet on the other guy, Leon Edwards, to
do it now before we fired up the cameras today,
that same guy was like, nah, other guys knocking him.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Out, promise you. So now I'm a little nervous. You know,
I'm a little nervous. Right now we gotta talk about
black voodoo magic. That's it right there. I don't know black.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Voodoo works in many colors. Many feel you were saying
it's dark magic.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, dark magic. Correction, correct correction. But now I'm a
little worried. Who knows, man, you know this game, you
who knows what happens?

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I get so worried for like my favorite fighters when
out there, I'll be saying there like please don't knock please.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't know what it is, but it's something about
like I feel like when I'm watching him, like all,
this is the one where it's gonna go really bad,
like every time.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
This is the one last one with Alex Perera. I
thought like when it started, I was like I was sorry, like.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
So that that one. I had mixed feelings like when
we went over the episode where like.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Khalil, I was just such a fan of I was
I am such a fan so like he did good.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
I was like, man, I want him to win so bad.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
But then at the same time, I was like Alex though,
like you know, it's like it's a it's it's the
Thanos yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Where you just know it's waiting to happen.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
And I feel like it's weird talking about it like
this because it's like you feel like you're speaking into
existence that he's gonna get knocked out something like something.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I feel like, that's my boy, right, like, please don't.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Knock him out. I feel like he'll be fine, He'll
be fine, He's gonna he's gonna win this.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
He's actually gonna dominate this, because there was something within
that fight with him and Round Tree, like towards the beginning, Roundtree,
you know he was doing he was he was piecing
him up. Just I think a lot of the best
fighters of all time like are very good at like
assessing their opponent, giving it like a like waiting it

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out a couple of.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Rounds, yeah them out and find yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
And then find the weakness and then attack A.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Lot of times people say that, like that's like the
veteran moves.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
The championship mentality is understanding whether knowing when to use
your gas tank like strategically throughout the fight. It a
game of chess at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
As long as you gonna get knocked in the first round, right, right,
But I mean that's the game, like you keep it
kind of even and then all right.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
But I would say it's with that though, you gotta
you gotta be careful with that though, because like too
much watching you're gonna get left.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, and that that's just that's just the game.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
A lot of times too, you'll see somebody that's like
analyzing round one, two, three, Now we're at round four.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Now you gotta make up three rounds.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
It's like it's like Alex does it in a in
an aggressive fashion where he's moving forward, he's picking you
apart with little jabs and ship kind of just seeing
what's gonna make you react to certain things.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
And then I think that's what really like him versus Hill.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Even if even if he were to lose this one, though,
I feel like they run this one back fast.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
He gets him anywhere. I think, no matter what happens.
That's he ain't gonna lose this one bold statement. Vegas
says differently. Yeah, that's why we gotta listen, because.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
He's bag standing and it looks that way. I'm telling
you it's all about the.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Betting really comes out. I'm gonna pull up one day
to this part just shaved off like this, this big
old beard. What's up? Two three years? Brother? Forget? Just
pull up like that.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Think about how many people probably just pull up like that.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
That's the that's the vacation of a going. He went
to Florida and pull up just like, yo, what's up.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
It's like you's got a bag of all your brother, brother, brother, brother, brother,
I'm getting what do you think?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
What do you think you gotta do to get one
of those hats, the ones that like a be walks out.
I gotta figure. You gotta look. You gotta kill a bear.
You got skinner bear, and you make your hat. There's
no way that's just giving to you.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You have you have to grapple and get a black
belt from a little grizzly Yeah out there, that's what
that's made out of. You're not wrong. I think I
think you really do earn that hat.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Just like fucking rear naked choke a fucking bison. Know that?
What is that material? Nah? And you know what, I'm
gonna try to like poison one and then like walk
up like I choked them out, brother brother, brother brother, Yeah,
none of that all right, Win's a win win win. Yeah.

(22:18):
I feel like I feel like that's like that's like
a cardinal's sin if you don't if you don't take
the bear's life with honor, you know what I mean,
like you got it, that's part of it. I'm not cardinal.
I'm not a cardinal like Dominican. That stuff we got
justin gaigee versus a raphael physive or physiev. I genuinely

(22:38):
don't know. This is one that I hear a lot
of people say either which way, and I don't know which.
How do you say it was that French?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
No, I don't think it's Bulgarian Bulgarian honestly, maybe I
don't know. This one was the last bit of physive
you say phys.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Right, I'm just pronounced a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
But I would say for I don't know, I feel
like phys because I also like I go off of
like with you the one on one interviews. But then
also when they have like what's it called the behind
the scenes of like leading up to the fight, hearing
the teammates and stuff, speak to them too.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Also lets me know, like how you pronounce them.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
That's how I get good at this stuff, really listening
and be like how do you say that?

Speaker 1 (23:19):
But this was the last minute replacement that I'm not
gonna lie. I'm cool with. I'm cool with, but it
makes me a little upset, just a little bit. We
were supposed to get Dan Hooker versus Justin gay Chee,
and now it was supposed to be that would have
been crazy on this card. On this card, it woulould
have been crazy. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
As a co main event three rounds, violence rounds.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I really do too. But Dan Hooker is also that
guy too. That would have been a great fight.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
But unfortunately Dan Hooker broke his hand, uh training see
in his hand it was pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
He said he had his hands up like this. This
looked like a balloon.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
It was so bad, bro, I don't know what happened.
He said that he was sparring with somebody and I
think he said he like hit the top of some
guy's head and it just he felt the pop and
then you look and it's like three times the size.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's wild. Damn.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
He got another hand though, he got another hand, he said.
He said he would have fought, but he didn't think
it was a good idea, like his coach, especially not
against Justin gig Y.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Geige's the monster. I'm gonna go with gai Ye on
that one. Yeah, me too, I think so too, But
it was mainly off of the like this is the
second time that they fought. The first time, Justin Gaigi
whooped his ass. I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
He didn't finish him, but he he broke his whole face,
like his nose was shattered.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Jesus, it was pretty bad. If said yes, go up,
he was incited to do it. Justin Geigee was saying
that he would have rather for that. He said he was.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Rather fought like like, who was it Charles Lavera or
not a ban Neil dru. She wasn't my blanket on
one of those top rank guys. He would have rather
fought him, but unfortunately both of those guys were like yo, listen,
Arma Seroukian, thank you, that's what I was trying to
think of. Yeah, so he was either going to fight
Charles or Arman and both of them said no, respectfully.

(25:08):
But they also apparently wanted to fight him at like
one hundred and seventy pounds and Justin who's around one
p fifty five right now because that's what he fights at.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
No, your cat.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
But then also both of those guys are ahead of
him in the ranking, so why would they also take
a short notice fight to fight backwards? Doesn't make any
sense what both of them are not for them somewhat
up for the title right now, But then they reached
out to a couple guys and not the way. Connoll
apparently also got a call out he I don't know
what happened there, but I guess he said no or
something didn't make sense for it to happen. I think

(25:38):
also was a weight thing about Ruffaelfazives, like sign me up,
and here he is and this is a second chance
he gets to fight Justin Gaechee to move up in
the rankings, which I think is really funny. I honestly,
I hope it's a good fight, and I don't know
it's weird with Justin Gaegee right now. I feel like
he's also in this spot where he has like one
or two chests.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
It's not even a couple more fights.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
It's like he's got one or two chess moves left
because of his name to get a title shot.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
This is one of those two. He can't lose this.
He can't lose this. He can't lose this.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
But then again, it's like Physie is like the underdog
trying to you know, make a name for himself and
come back, which is crazy because it's like who has
the more fight of them?

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Who has like more to prove right now? Like who
wants it more? Is what this fight is gonna come
down to? Like this is this right there?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
That's just a quick little screen because if I was physive,
I would be re looking at all these videos, these
tapes and studying these fights and if he wants to well.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
That's what you hope he does. Like that you need
to get back.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yeah, yeah, you're sure, dude, you need to like figure
it out, go train a little come back.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Because I'm pretty sure. Let me let me look back.
I think that that was he's last fight because he
took a break. Yeah, so that was wasn't with two
years I heard, Yeah, this was this was a while ago.
It's twenty twenty three. Yeah, this is twenty twenty that
they fought. Yeah, yeah, he's been off for two years.
But I'm saying he got these boys. I got to

(27:06):
rewatch this one. But these boys were scrapping.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
One hundred and six, one hundred and seventy fourth thrown
on Justin Gaategee's side, one hundred and sixty nine off
his the east side.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Dude, these these are scrapping.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, so I think we're still gonna get a similar fight.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's gonna be a scrappy I think it's gonna be
a scrappy night, for sure. I know Gage's always down
through the hands, you know, but I don't. I definitely,
I'm definitely a little upset that that we didn't get
that hooker. Hopefully, you know, I mean they.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
That still could happen, though, I think that to heal
Jesus Christ up there. Yeah, it depends how bad, because
is he gonna fight Connor?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Now he could?

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Connor is done? I think you think I think he
just keeps on fucking up. I know he has that contract,
but I think he just keeps on sucking up. When
it comes to like.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Talking about contract with like with the court or with
the usc UFC funny of contracts. No, he for sure
is not. I don't he's making a comeback. I don't
think so.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
If he does, bad Knuckles run back him and Donald
Torony the same thing that happened when he came back again,
just like that's when people loved him.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
He hit him with the shoulder strikes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think the knockout was pretty cool. I remember watching
the way was interesting.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
That was I think before COVID, wasn't it. Yeah, I
feel like that's when I started getting into it.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Who's on the way out, who's like like a good
name on the way out? Give him one of those
warrier again. No, he won't. I don't think I wouldn't.
I wouldn't want him good. Yeah, exactly. We need some
well I guess if wins Gae Chi might be will
be wouldn't be a bad one. Gage will beat him.
We need to get him somebody that likes See. My

(28:42):
thing is, I don't think anybody in the top five
unless Chandler again, armand Seruki and Charles Lavera, Justin Gaigie,
Dustin Pier, Max Halloway at the top five. They would
all be cool fights, but I don't think he deserves
any one of them. Yeah, I think it being Saint Dennis,
not that you'll be st Denise the need. That's what

(29:10):
that song. Yeah, that's what I said in my head,
like a cussan. Bro. Even now looking at the rankings,
phauseib is ranked number eleven. What the fuck? How do
you get a fight out of here? They call everybody
on the list, everybody on the list like a no,

(29:31):
you can't. We just said you can't. Next justinic gay.
The words are not. You cannot afford to lose my brother.
You cannot afford to lose, Bro, your career. It is
so bad. Imagine he loses and he drops down to
number eleven. Bro, that's nuts.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Remember when I said he's got one to two moves,
You got one move, so it automatically replaces the.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Ranking, like you like if you are lower ranked and
you were fighting somebody that is higher ranked than you,
and you are automatically place you your rank. You swapped
like he wouldn't drop down, so like I don't know,
like a seven.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Maybe it depends, like who else in that weight class
fought and lost in won maybe.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Though, but I believe they they just swapped that out again.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
This is uneducated gentleman disclaimer. Please let us know in
the comments screen. Let us know if you don't like
what we just said.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Just let us know. Yeah, write it down on a
piece of baber, crumble it up, make it into the airplane.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
And.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Send it by sucking out.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Email us at uneducated at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Send us my AOL will get back yea. But yeah, no, man,
this is a bad move for him. Bro.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm not gonna lie because the thing is he's got
a couple of really exciting fights that I think he'll
work his way back up, because I don't think like Max,
I think we'll fight him again, does a poitier like
Dustin wants to go Although Dustin and Charles would be
a fun if they.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Want Max to still like because he's taking that last
They want to see him like be great again like
he was against Justin Gaigee.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
That last time. Yeah, so I feel like baby's good.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Maybe like they give him another Justin Gaigie but on
the way out for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Bro, But it's just he wasn't He's not doing he
wasn't doing bad. I know he was. He wasn't doing
too hot that fight. He beat he beat Physic and
he beat Uhier. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
And then he lost against Max Holloway, so it was
on a two fight.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I mean, he was doing all right, especially being poorer.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, his last loss before Max was the Charles Lavera
back in twenty twenty two. So I think him and
Poorier had three fights, but Portier won two out of three.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Right, No, they've only fought twice. So then he wants
they want one more to make it more trilogies, let's go.
I'm down with trilogy.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
So that was my idea that that that was what
I was there at one and one then right, because
I know Porier won the first one.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh you gotta do it then, yeah, especially especially in
the time like this. But it doesn't physive.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
But that's my thing is eleven. That's what he wants
one more. I think he only wants one more so
that I don't know who his last one would be.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
To end it. Both of you guys are like names. Yeah,
he's top three. Yeah, I think that would be good.
That makes that would makes more sense than anything.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I know.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
You just fought him. You don't want to wait, who's
Oliver gonna fight next? With Oliver? So technically he's up
for the title.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
But there's a word word around the water cooler, is
that he's no is that he's supposed to fight.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
He might fight Armed Serukian again. Yeah, I don't know
if I want to say that. I mean, he almost
beat him, almost beat him. He might win that one.
He won the first time. He won the first time,
so he might. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I think that Charles can get him on the second
time or the second go round. Give him someone other
than this is what I was looking for right here.
So there was also word that you know we talked
about on the last episode. Unfortunately you were too busy
on beat somewhere drinking some fancy drink with your feet
up or whatever you were doing exactly what I was doing.

(33:06):
The fact that I know he was dying. Then what
was gonna say?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Iliotsify is moving up in wait, Yes, he needs somebody
to welcome him into one fifty five. And who would
that be? Charles? It be Charles.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
If they don't want to give it, do not give
a champion a title shot?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Does the other champion accept? Since he is the champion
of that belt.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
The other champion has verbally all times said he does
not want to fight another one forty five for his belt.
But the one five in question has knocked out two
of the greatest one forty five ers of all time
and two of the arguably biggest names in the UFC
history of all time. I feel like and one of

(33:51):
the potential title contenders in your weight class.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I feel like he deserves it first of all, miches
sh I've already knocked out everybody else, you feel me
or taken down or be everybody else. So it's like
I wouldn't want to see him do another reasons of
his most of his fights would be second cracks.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I wouldn't want to decide besides Arman Charles again, justin
against again.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
That's I wouldn't want to have to be new no well, no,
no Toporia give him to or if Poria is still
that hungry Charles, and then you.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Wouldn't do it. You wouldn't do just just for the fans,
a little Charles nearly. I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I would I would you want to talk about I'm
looking right at the camera for this one.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
You want to talk about depression?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
If I had to sit down and watch Volkanovski get
knocked out, Max Holloway get knocked out.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
And then I have to see du Bronx get knocked out. Yeah,
I'm doing it live on this show. You know what
I'm talking. I'm doing it live. You deserve the chance
to fight, sir. I'll fight him for me. How dare
you disrespect me in such a manner? Bro?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
But then listen, I've become a fan of I'm not
gonna hate you. You're like, when you're gonna say that
all the stuff he's done, dude, the fact that it's
the same he did the same thing that Alex did.
Joe Rogan and them were just like, this guy's really good.
You guys have no idea who this guy is. Really
good boy wow, And I'm like, sure, I don't know

(35:19):
who this guy is. I've never even heard of him
in my life. Watching him k okay okay o, and
I'm like, Jesus Christ. Him agains Volkanoski. I was like, oh, yo,
he's pretty good. I don't know, maybe knocks him out clean.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
It's like jeer God. At the same time.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
I might have been the same day I became a
Serukian and Tuporia fan in.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
The same day day. I could see it though, Man,
at a certain point, At a certain point, no matter
how much they show you, you're like, man, I can't
hate on that bro, Like you really get hate on
their game. It's too smooth. Now.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I was a fan of Supporia, but it's like, after
you knalk about Voke, I was like, all right, it's
a rap this dude. Yeah, Voke was like that official
shell check mark, Like yo, he deserves.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Through the talks that we've had, though, You're like, the
moment he did old man Vokee, I feel like that's like, man, yeah,
you're like because you were not with that at all,
you was. I feel like it was funny Clinton, but
it's like you beat a fan, have kind of dipped out.
You're like, man, that's kind of like I still like,
I still like Vote, and I was rooting for him
to be Lopez because really, yes, it takes on a

(36:26):
lot of that stuff that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
I want Voke to win to be Lopez, but if
Lopez doesn't get him, I feel like Vote can get
him with stamina. If Lopez doesn't get him within the
first couple of rounds, Volk has a chance within the
last round. That's the only way I think championship metality.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
I don't think I've ever been a fan of voc really,
I've been a fan. I like vote when he had
hair voke hat hair early and he was doing his thing,
I was a fan. I don't know Man's he's like.
I like the Light aweight guys, Like I don't mind.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Watching them because they're like they're they don't have like
crazy knockout power a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, but the technique, the skill, and I like that.
It's just like all energy the whole time. Yeah. Yeah,
like you'll see we'll go.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
One fifty five, maybe one seventy enough. Actually no, we'll
say one seventy enough. The heavier guys, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
They don't get knockouts like that.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
They don't get they don't get a whole lot of
like crazy big moments where they're like sleeping people or actually,
let me change that. They get more so of those,
but they don't. It's not a lot of action. You
have to kind of wait for that moment to happen. Well,
at least the other guys is.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Like boom boom boom boom boom boom at all time,
at all time.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Like it's it's almost like you get the surprise, like
almost like a moment where like I don't know, like
like for example, like uh, it's your birthday and you
don't know that something's gonna happen, and then somebody.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Like just whoa, Like oh shit, what is that? Like
the txample had toppy birthday to you. Damn that's crazy.
Shout out to Jesus your right here, appreciate, Shout out

(38:15):
to the BMF Champion of the World. R e G.
We just want for We just wanted. We just wanted
to shout out for the for the birthday. So we
had to get you the Batman cake and want to
what do you mean? This is?

Speaker 2 (38:26):
This is official relations uneducated with educated miss ladious liquor.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
You guys want on the table's letter on the table?
This is this is so I told you guys it
would be a special episode. Do you know what I mean?
We can't we can't. We can't let the boy go
without saying happy birthday to him. Wish for a batmobile? Bro, Honestly,
I'm not gonna wish for that all right, is it?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
It doesn't come true if you say it. Man, that's
not how the rules work.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
The usual nigga ship job job time, I'm up time up. Hey,
that was a good blow. That was a good blow.
Now we need some knives and ship the cameras.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
I appreciate this, this especially especially because it's the one
year you know what.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Year, it's right on the birthday mark. Shot a clock.
Let's let's clock. Oh hold on, let me let me
get another cup real quick, hold on, hold on the
shock class. I was about at the gym after this.
But it's not right.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Let's find a good one. To find a good one,
let's se let's see who's got a who's got a wild?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
What flavor is this case cake? By the way, that's
a great quation cold? Okay, okay, okay, all right, let's
play the game. What the what's the game? You gotta
say it? God damn some one.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Jasmine just suit the vicus. Okay, get the shot.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
That was good. Let me see your Glasslet me your
How do I get shot? Tracy Cortes shout out, you
got that one? Nine right? Number nine?

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, oh lord, number six to me. All right, let's
see I know jasmine. All right, hold on, all right,
jazz this okay, okay, hold on, there's no way, no way.
I'll tell you right now, use it in this sentence.

(40:41):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, We sound this out?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
How many? Yeah? This is like seven syllables in this
No you guys, all right, Joseph, do what the roman?
What is this? Josevicusus? Why is there two eyes jazz?
Because that's like seven shots right now? Get them get
me right? All right, Let's take this shot jazz instead

(41:08):
of perfect right, jazz di visius, jazz divisious.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
If you didn't know, now you know this is uneducated,
uneducated May one year, Happy birthday to the b MF.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Champ deserve.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
All right, everybody celebrations, Congratulations, we we take a shot,
and all good. You don't know how to say that name.
Take a shot you at home. Make sure you ain't
driving people watching slamming their keyboards right now.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Sounds like you're doing a spell. Guy, This guys are
so dumb, uneducated. It's in the name. It's in the name.
I think justin Gatche's got this one.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, same, same, yeah, kind of bring it back, really
it same, I think, so listen, I.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Think he gets this and the next one it's I
don't even know who the next one is, but I
got you on that one.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
No, I'm not gonna lie to you, timeline wise, timeline,
let's look at it right. We're in March, right now.
Let's say he gets physif this is only three rounds, guys,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
It's not. He can still get knocked out, but it's
only three rounds, hear me out.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
He gets through this relatively unscathed, doesn't really get hurt,
doesn't take a lot of damage, manages to because he said,
he's like, I'm knocking him out this time.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I'm not playing with him. This is it.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Let's say he gets it done, knocks him out. The
next couple months. International Fight Week, they always stack that.
That's like their their super Bowl of the year. That's
the one that they want to make huge.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Stack it right, you're gonna have somebody defending about most
likely maybe one or even two champions.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Throw this on there as well, Justin Gaechee, Dustin Poorier,
Dustin Porio's last fight.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
We get the trilogy, the trilogy, the trilogy. It has
to happen. I think, so why not? Because I'm looking
at the rankings. Good for and unfortunately with Dustin Poyet.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
He's fought a lot of these guys and I don't
know necessarily if they're gonna want to fight him again.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
The only other person I can think of that if
this goes south, then Dan.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Hooker fights Justin, or not Justin, he fights Dustin again
and we get another war.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Either way, I'm happy, But I would say another shot.
It's not for the BMF, say another shot, but it
would be I said, all right, get it, get it.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
I just had another shot, be a math title saying
like that, that's gotta get the belt.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
That's my title. Let's be real, we gotta get the belt? Justin?
Who else? So what do you think about the title?
What do you think about that? Right? So Max holds
the b MF belt, right, he fought Iliots are poor?
You got knocked out? Got it?

Speaker 3 (43:57):
I'm sorry to say, does Iliot have the belt he's
walking around with Ilia does not have the BMF belt.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
He's walking around with it, not with the especially won
the belt. He's walking around with it. He didn't win
the belt, but he did beat the guy who had
the belt.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
If that nigga has the BMF belt and I knock
him out, that's my belt.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
How do we san?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Nah, bro, are you fighting for that open weight class?
Are you fighting for that? Or you're not fighting for that?

Speaker 1 (44:26):
We're fighting for everything. Oh if Max put both belts
on the line, I would say, yeah, I think they
should all always be on the line. I don't think so.
It's just it's just like right now, say you're a
champ of two weight classes, you get knocked out in
one weight class. Are you a champ down both way

(44:47):
classes because you beat the champ and the other way class?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Now here's my issue with that, because then you have
like if that new champion or whatever, the guy who's
now going to hold two, three, four, five belts, whatever,
it's going to end up being, now do you end
weight classes?

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Now classes he has to cut down a one. I
understand reputation, but it's also like trying to move up
to one se weight classes and belts. So it's like
they fought specifically for that weight class, that championship. They't
fight for both belts or specifically for that belt.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
I just feel like it should be like if if
if someone is like, oh I just knocked this dude
out got his belt, went up a weight class, knocked
that dude out, and I got two belts, and I
knocked him out two belts.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I would argue, I would argue, just because you're a
champion doesn't make you a b A meth.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
You know what would be dope if the BMF.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
It's a very true, very true thing to Poria, I
think has a couple more big fights to get to
and then he and then he's got it.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
I think that when you have the Max Holloways.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Versus the Justin Gay Cheese, the Justin Gay Cheese versus
the Justin Warriors, like you have these iconic I just
beast dudes who get into these slugfest wars, these like
legendary names, these household names.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
That's a different category than a champion you might need
not even know. Unfortunately, there's one who has to put
his name as remember the name, and as you make
the joke, often he gets forgotten. I would argue, as
much as I like him as a fighter, but Muhammad
is in a bm F, who he's not, I'd say,

(46:32):
I'd say that.

Speaker 7 (46:37):
Bm F Alexander pan b He's He's a BMF for sure.
I think Pant Pantos to Puria. So this is not
not talking about the bmhead Serukian.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, I like him all equally. I'm I'm not a
fan of all three of them.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Does the BMF have a weight class? No, Okay, imagine this,
imagine this, imagine this now. We shouldn't imagine this now.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
So for example, obviously every every champ, every has a
weight class for their belt. Right, so imagine the bm
me F or say they made a new division which
would be best knockout? Right, say, if you're fighting for
the world champion, and on top of that, you get
the best knockout at that world champion fight, you should

(47:31):
be able to collect the best Knockout belt or the
BMF belt, because now you are the BMF.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
So that way, that way you can kind of move around.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
That way the belt itself moves around because it could
be a prelim but someone does a backflip, crazy kick,
knockout you the BMF or you the best knockout whatever?

Speaker 1 (47:54):
What about this? What about this? I like that? I
like that. What if it was like you make it
BMF fight and it's like a BMF Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, that's kind of more what it is if you
can make it across weight classes, because that's the that's.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
The tricky part, the hardcore belt, that's what that's what
is technically belt.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Like you told all the fucking items, you can't have.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
The guy who weighs one hundred and forty five pounds
who then maybe can get to one fifty five fight
somebody who's one eighty five to two.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
They still weighs within them.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
But I'll say this, there's not a lot of those
guys in those like those divisions, in the heavier divisions.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
That I would also say is like bm F. Besides,
like John Jones is in there, Alex is in there,
But then you look at the weight division himself, there's
not really a lot. Like Derek Lewis is somebody who's
a BMF. He's someone you could throw in there. It's
not really he has the most knockout.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
He's somebody you can throw in there. It's that's what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
You don't have to be a mound tree b one
I think he needs. He can get there. He fights
like one, yeah, exactly exactly. He's right up there, and
it's a it's a this is a legends only club
exactly that's what b m F is legends only the
best knockout type thing. It's just Jorge mad That's what

(49:15):
I'm saying exactly. It's one of the bys. Did he
ever get it?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
He?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, yeah, he did. He That's when whose eyebrow was?
It was fight for the BMF. No, he comes in
not not now his last couple of Now who's the fight?
Who's being fight now? Max Holloway Away, fight Max Halloway.
So that's what I can see, Like I can fight

(49:43):
Who's who's my fighting Halloway? But there's different weights. But
I think can't b B m F. I don't know
to wrestling you think Edwards.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Then, because that's what I'm saying, guys, don't have you.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Know, it's not that let's take this shot because I
don't know that Burns. Burns.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I would argue that is somebody who has been through
enough wars that I can throw.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Him and maybe he could be a B A man.
I like Burns, but no, you know he's a B
A B A meth.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
He's a contender for the man. He's a contender for
the bm MET. He had one of the most fightings
streaks consistently.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Is he was in Wars, it was it was is
he versus Calvin Gas. I'm just saying current war Bro,
we're talking about we're talking about currently. I know he
got knocked up, he got three l's back to back
or is there four ls? I think it's three out,
like you know, championship.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
I get it, I get it way out BMF, I
get it.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
But but that's what I'm saying, you can have it
has to be people that have fought like it is
the BMF ever multiple times in it has Again, it
has to be like the type of fighter you are too,
because you can't have like the decisions.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Of the You gotta have like clearly there or you
have clear W if it's not a knockout, clear W
a certain amount of fight of the Knights under your belt.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
But can't like the Supermartar face of the UFC B
the b m F or does it have to be.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
No, you don't think could be the BMF because I would.
It's something I would say, Alex right now has been Alex,
let's do this, let's get it. I would say, like Alex, uh,
what is it?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Sugar, Shawn O'Malley and all of them have all been
face of the of the UFC, But you wouldn't give
them to me. About the BMF title, who did they
give it to Max Hollowa at the time. That's what
they made a fight with him and Justin Gatche. These
guys were here already in the face, they still gave
the fight to them.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Why it's the status hold on it is status is
that you have to have earned it by a lot
of like fucking wars in that in.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
That That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
It's like the caliber of fighter to but then also
Tonson without losses, the way he fights currently, the way
you're fan, bro, I was, I have him up here,
I have him up here about wait, wait which card?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Which card? Put that card down? That blew over on the.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Get that mother. Here's my thing with here's my thing
with Tony right.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
He's He's definitely one. The mentality he has. It doesn't
matter how many losses he has. He goes into every
single fight like he's gonna go in there and die
in there.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
And I like that. He's recently said it was hard
for him to put away the UC stuff, but he's
ready to move on to the GFL and I'm gonna
watch I'm gonna support. I think he's trying to die
in the ring. That's exactly that's yourself. To be a fighter,
you gotta be a little carcked. Yeah yeah, yeah, a
little cracked.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
You gotta be able to like him and then hooker
for sure, except you have to go in in that ring.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
You gotta accept death for sure, Yeah you do.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Unfortunately, you know it's you don't like to see it
when the guys, like the audience is telling him stop.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
And he won't, please just stop fighting. It's like the
craziest thing is like when a fighter gets knocked out
and then the other fighters like yeah yeah, and then
the other fighter doesn't want to get up, and then
you're like, oh, you feel bad.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Recently, I think it was like two days ago, I
was on Twitter and I saw a video where they
were like, they don't show you this part of UC
three hundred, and it's just the.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
One camera panting in on Justin Gaechee's.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Lifeless, like face down like this on the ground, not
moving for like three minutes.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
You're like, I love the fight, I remember, and I
love both of them, Holloway and Gaechee, but seeing gay
Gee laid out like that tough bro. I was like,
I remember Max Holloway like yeah, and I was like, yeah,
that's what I remember. And he looks up like yeah,
get up. No, no, no, get up, get up? Bro.

(54:00):
Lost tank immediately. It's so bad. Bringing the sleep doctor.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Get them some freing air they needed. They need to,
they need to have that side so you can also
like it's like the ups and downs. They had a
series of that where they showed you like the like
the no I forgot what what the thing was called,
but it was like, do they show you the locker
room of the winner and then they tore the locker
room with the loser? And it was definitely two different feelings. Man,
they show the locker room and the loser.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Yeah, and it deflated and it was just like the
JBL speakers still like, I've been like on buses on
the way back from a loss in a basketball game,
and those are like, you don't nobody speaking.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I've never been on them buses, on the mother buses. Yeah,
how to feel on the buses?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Everybody, right, yeah, we have.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
I was on a different bus. I was like, I
was practiced day. He was shooting, was making his trees.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
That day.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
It depends on the day, man, all right, at least
on the day that ends with at least we have.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
The confirmation of who one was. You know, he won.
I'm better though all that. This is where this is
where we get the bm F title. It's your birthday,
now the new year. Let's see what's up happen? Yeah, yeah,
was broken on your thoughts? All right, to run through
the rest of the car. Jayalen Turner versus, I love

(55:35):
saying his name, Ignacio's name.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
You sound like a NOVELA definitely a novella. Jesus Christy. Yeah,
this is gonna be a banger, Bro, This is gonna
be a great, a great fight. This is gonna be
one that I think is a bit of a not
not a sleeper. If you're a fan, you're gonna watching
him like, this is gonna be good. But Jayleen Turner
coming off a loss, now, she was coming off like
crazy knockouts.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
This du fil feels, bro. You you want like the
when you're playing UFC, you create the perfect striker and
you're laying in those combos. Nasio. Bro, he's somebody that's
on the rise. He's that contender that's on the way
and you guys sounds like natural.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Also, the name was like nazis I listen, I know
the casual fan made up, but that name is fire again,
ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Ig Nasio. He's like I read that. I was like, bro,
I think I think he's Mexican.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Look good for him, man, I told you that's the
name from NA. It's definitely Mexican.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I believe.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
So.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
I don't think there's no other Ignasia, any other race.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Clip it posted, but immediately it was like, we don't
we don't cut that. We were all wrong, uneducated, uneducated.
I don't know how many times I have to say this,
I am uneducated.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I just learned this. I'm not gonna I just land.
I'm not gonna lie to you. You know what it was.
I think I forgot who I can confusing Americans. I
don't know how far is Mexico really, you know?

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Anyway, anyway, Mexico, there's new Mexico.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
This is Agnostio's chance to break into the top. We
need against doctor thirteen ranked Jalen Turner. That's crazy that
the thirteenth ranked is underdog in this. I can see it.
It happens a lot of time, actually, but you gotta
think about it.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
When you're like I would say, like thirteen to fifty,
that bottom three, you're fighting for your life. You're fighting
for your life, so I understand. I think I think
it gets them out. I'm gonna go with the Nacio
on that one. And let's just let's just run to
the rest. We got who we got here, let's run in.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Let' get it. I'm not gonna light to the rest
of the cards, you know, a little whatever. We got
some good fights and they're not gonna be We got
Amanda Lamos versus uh Yasmin go with Lemos. Lemos is tough.
I think I'm gonna go with She's an underdog in
this one. It was a little parlay on that.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Why not, right, little little little Brazil and Brazil action,
a little parlay, a little lay.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
On that one. And it's not Bobby Green, it is
King Green. Respect the name. You gotta you're gonna change
your name from Bobby King. You're gonna have to stop winning.
You have to beat again. You need to be able
to rymore. Bro that's crazy. Once he changed his name,
he should have kept the Bobby. You should have kept
the Bobby Bro, they got Curtis Blades on the pre limbs.

(58:31):
No way, Curtis braid to be fair. He's he's he's
at the the what do you call what do you
call it? The top of the prelimbs. I guess he's
like the last fight of the pre limbs. So you
know what I mean. Event, But I would argue, you
throw King Green on the pre limbs. Yeah, you gotta
you gotta swap to be fair. Who he's fighting right
now is crazy? That's crazy? Is that? Hey? That name?

(58:54):
I'm good, bro, Ris von Kiev. Okay, that's not that bad.
I don't know why is this photo black white? He
just he's not unlocked. He hasn't earned it. He's not
on lot color cameras well, he's unlocked.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
All right, then you get that character. So so just
to just to run through the card real quick, just
before we finish up, when we wrap up this fantastic, beautiful,
emotional one year happy Birthday surprise episode, I don't know
what you would call it. It's a lot of emotions
right now. Celebration, celebration of life. As Rick James would say,
all right, yeah, Alex Pereira magamat Unclelive I got Alex Pereira, Yes, the.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Trauma, I Gotama Justin Gaechee.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
I gotta go with all Justin stick together, Jalen Turner,
Ignacio Mahamun this.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Well, what that name? Magnasio, Yeah, off the strength of
you gotta go Agnacio A man in Lamos versus Yasmin Lucindo.
Put my money on when life gives you lamos. Yeah,
you gotta go. I pick Amanda, kid Greed versus Maurisio
Roofree come again? Is it King Green? Or is Kick
Green or Bobby? It's it's Kick Green, Bobby King. I

(01:00:07):
know you guys are like, oh, he's gotta get some wins,
but the record is thirty two sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
He's still nice, he's green, He's something that I would
still say you throw him in there and bmmth yo.
Ever since he was like, Yo, can I get my
crew up in here? I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm
I'm gonna go with I'm Bobby. I'm gonna call him
Bobby Green.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I'll tell you what's this one. I'll tell he earns
it again. He needs to be pad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
You're gonna say something like I ain't never call other
man King.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Well, know hopefully he did. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you
for joining us again on another episode of Educated in May.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Yeah, this is the one year episode. Thank you everybody
for watching. I want to keep coming with more episodes,
more content. We're gonna change it up a little bit
here and there. Hopefully you guys enjoyed the ride.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
While we're here. And of course, happy birthday to the
b m F champion up the world for Bobby Gee.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah, its just it and wonder bread here. This has
been an Educated MMA. We out peace, ysre

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Hell yeah