TAKE 20: UFC 314 Reaction!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome everybody to another episode of Uneducated mm A. I'm
your host with the most wander bread coming at your
life with another episode of Uneducated.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
MMA and I'm glad to be joined here by my
co host and a special guest. Obviously, you can already
tell it to Cameo by eight h six his own Mellie,
we gotta we gotta change it up. That's too simple. Again.
We'll come back to you, but we're gonna need that
nickname in just a moment. Oh, I thought about this,
all right, good, good. Yeah, it feels weird.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
It feels weird to be on this side of the table,
but it's cool.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Our outside of before we started up the mics. It's
like sitting in the back seat of your car.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Exactly what it feels like.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Weird, That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (00:53):
I'm back sitting back in a back seat at my
own car. I'm not responsible for ship. You know you're driving, sir,
And it was for anything I say.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
It was like when we first started this, it was
weird for me to be like on Mike. I feel
like the first time that I was here was like
in that seat and it was just kind of like,
I'm here to just kind of throw things.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Here and there. And then I got up here and
I was like, oh, I gotta have to like.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
Not steering the ship and just kind of relaxing and chilling,
because yeah, being educated, it's all about vibes.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
You might leave here more confused than you entered, but
you know, we'll see what happened on it, alright, bet
And of course we got the Bath championed up the.

Speaker 7 (01:30):
World, yes, sir, and this justin just yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's shot Michael's Yeah, greens, so many green screens that'd.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Be crazy UFC.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Nickname bro, I have a few, a few.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I was gonna go with.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Me or the.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
Last one is a atal six original Melvin the King
cool the one it was a throwback in the previous
previous life.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
That yeah, just claimer claiming still the one of the
first two.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
The other one that beginning of at a little callback
call back I don't even know actually no, no, yeah
talk about that.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
You casting a net there bringing it back for the
first season.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
It's too funny.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, you're right there. Never buffer announcing that nickname would
be crazy, Yeah, right, I would pay money to get
the cord that he writes the annunciation parts on ya.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, I think I said it pretty close to how
I would say.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I feel like I feel like you got it, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
All Right?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
So yeah, so we're here to bring you a nice
little recap of UFC three fourteen that happened this past Saturday. Now,
this is very interesting card, very interesting card for sure.
This is one that we were hyped up about.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Obviously when they announced the whole lineup, we were like, yeah,
we understand through twelve, three thirteen, but.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Three fourteen, that's the one that we need to get to.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
I didn't blink at.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
All, No, Yeah, I did a lot of blinking.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah, you had a.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Very long blank, long periods of blink.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, blink.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I say it a blank again, like again, dude.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, we're gonna bring it up off top. Yeah, Melvin
fell asleep like four times. It's like yo, like we
invited him one time. Miami, right, yeah, Eastern time zone?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Why are we starting fights so late?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Like I'm trying, I'm trying.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Well, well well to be fair, all right, early prelim
started at six Okay, so technically the fight started at
six pm.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
If We're being real honest here.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
It was there like at six thirty. I know, by
the time I got to ten ten thirty, I was done.
I was fighting for my life.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
These guys.

Speaker 8 (04:20):
First of all, they brought the fights a bottle Buchanan, yeah,
and Tennessee barbecue and other stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
To knock you out, to knock you.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Out, those pip beans and slowed me down. Though.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Is that bong that always kids?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
I like that other stuff and other stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
No, but that bonged.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Whatever?

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yon man, I was watching fights, Yeah, I don't know.
I tried hard.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I guess.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
I pause.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I guess at this point, it's just like ritual to
just like watch them. I feel like they're entertaining enough
that I just I'm like locked in focus.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
Yeah, I don't fall I fall asleep because it's not
because I'm not entertained.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I fall asleep because I'm just tired and.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
To pay attention.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
You know, I am paying Oh please, don't act like
you've never watched a movie that you were really interested,
but your body just like listen, I.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Guess to go back. You said you had a long blink.
He like takes like I guess whatever. The power in
version of that is.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I'm sure he wasn't wide awake the entire time. It's tough.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeaeah.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
We didn't even have coffee that night. We usually do,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
Way, at one point I felt like it was like
you guys, are you guys doing this? Because once a
Tennessee barbecue walked in, I was like, all right, like
this has.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
To be perfect, so they you know what I mean,
I'm not gonna that was a heavy meal to choose,
you know, like.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
You could have did tackles or something like that.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Something life happens, man, I know, but I think it's
always I feel like an exciting enough time that I
just watched the fights and it keeps me like awake.
I will say though, like being a host, I am
kind of like walking around like making sure everbody's good
and doing this on the third so I feel like
I'm more energized.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
By indulging in in the appetizers and and and entrees.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
There was a charcuterie board that was brought out at
one point.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
There was the most elegant fight night I've ever had.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
In my mind.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
You feel like a real Dominican out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
We just you know, you know. I was like, yo,
I want to like play a game, and someone brought
up dominoes. I was like, my domino table is right down.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Play domino tables.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Every fight because I have to pull up for everyone.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Obviously, it's like every other I feel like if it's
exciting enough and we get enough people, yeah, it's usually
like that. I feel like it's we hit a lall
at some point and then it goes right back up.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Man, that's fine, but it's a good time though. It
was a good time.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
Came it always good Dominican real quick, you know what
it is now?

Speaker 4 (06:46):
The word in April, we're hitting that like weird point
in New England where it gets like warm some days,
cold some days. Talking about it's like, man, we can't
wait for it to be summer weather. We're outside and
we're like, we can play dominoes right now.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, we have all the utensils in this building right now.
We do not have to play this outie as great
as you like opened the dominoes, it's like but just
like yeah, yeah, it's like what came first up, But
I thought the dominoes.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
No one ever knows. Man.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Chicking over the.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Egg going back to you three fourteen, though, let's let's
start it off frame. Normally I ask you questions, but
I don't even remember what you remember. Then, technically the
main event, I think you might have left by that
I don't fully remember. I was also a little bit
in and out, but I locked in and focused on
that one at least. So let's start off with the
main event. Alexander Volkanowski versus Diego Lopez.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
He also couldn't see. No, Yeah, no, I'm honestly a
little concern for that eye.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Yeah, he's a little What I saw is they hit
each other hard a bunch of times.

Speaker 9 (07:38):
Correct, it would be very correct, like this several times
even was punching him so hard, was like he was
just kind of just still moving forward.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
It's bad when the commentary is like, you know, he's
got a great chin. You're like, you know he got hit. Yeah,
They're like, man, he didn't get knocked out. I would have.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
He got a great chin, he got a great shin.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
He's real tough.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Dam licked up in there.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was. It was a great fight, though I thought
it was definitely one sided. I'm not gonna say I
definitely lean more towards it was on Volkanovski. Some people
were having the argument of whether or.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Not it was like four to one or all five
rounds went to volkan The one round, some people will.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Argue was either when Diego.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Got the lock, you got to knock down like kind
of late, or I think they said, like round four,
I had to rewatch some highlights and kind of.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
See what people were talking about.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I can't give him a round unfortunately.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
I just think they Voke did his thing.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Voc was more experienced than that fight. Lopez, you know,
had a great shins from he did. So he's brazilient
and he fights out of Mexico. So that was a
whole the whole thing I was looking for close to the island,
but I don't know it, probably because he even where
the glasses, you know, the nerd glasses.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Now he's not one of those.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's not one of those, not one of the fighting
nerds glasses. A team. There's a team that has emerged
recently and that's last is one thank you think of
like w W when there's a faction that comes on camp.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
It's a whole camp of them and they're called the
Fighting Nerves. This team of Brazilians that are on a
path right now. They're just taking anime watching motherfuckers exactly.
They come out with glasses that have the tape around
the middle, you know, get one ones and.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
They pull up and they've been killing everybody.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
So now everybody that is Brazilian is somewhat associated with them,
even though a lot of them are not. Remember when
the last fat was going on, it was everyone's bleaching
their hair like Charles Love. Yeah, that was the thing.
Everybody went super super Saiyan like Child's dead. I mean that.
I think that's still his thing. I'm gonna be honest.
I think other people tried it did not go their way.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I will say this.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I will say this for a few fighters, changing the
look works, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Sometimes changing the.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Let's just completely changed characters.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, sometimes it works a lot better.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
They're going down to BC and two K.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Like Dan Hooker. Every time we magint u Dan Hooker
with the tattoos.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Man, it looks completely different. Always his UFC paychecks.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I go into dude, it was it was overnight. Like
I'm talking like, I don't even remember tattoos. If I
don't like you, just pull up to the spot, bro,
you can tell he got one good paycheck and spent
it all man like he got put under for that.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
For sure.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
There's no way he was just sitting there.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I'm talking like, no tattoos, full sleeves, his shins are.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Tatted like everywhere. You're like, nah, if you were like paid,
would you ever do that? Like do the amnesia get
knocked out to get I think that.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
I wouldn't do it all in one one sitting. But
if I can get knocked out, why the fuck not?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I know, I know I should feel like I'd rather
just feel the pain, just go through it.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
That's what I was gonna say. I feel like I shouldn't,
I shouldn't care what other people think.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
But at the same time, I feel like everyone says
you got to kind of go through it for you
to like earn it.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I mean I already went through it, so I don't
want to.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Like the right act if you already got one, to
think the rest of them. And then again it's like,
what are you trying to prove? I've had surgery before,
so you amnesia. I wouldn't want to be the Civil
War veterans that are somehow so alive. But like back
in my day, you sawn off and had your whiskey.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Like, that's all my biggest fears being operated on.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Man, I still feel that ship. It's like, why does
he feel? Why does he feel?

Speaker 2 (11:12):
You don't feel. I never had anything crazy, but I
had like the wisdom to be taken out, and that
one was I never even had my wisdom?

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Did they ask me like one question? And I was
just like, well, I think that, yeah, that's pretty much it.
And then they're like, all right, you're done. I was like,
what are you talking about it? I was like, you
used to do this.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
They're like, no, you you immediately knocked out, signed you out.
And I was like what are you talking about? And
they're like you went to sleep before you even really
started talking. And I was like, oh damn, that didn't
hits you. You don't even know what. They told me
to count to ten. I made it to six. That's impression.
I get to three matter as much as.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Like, you know what, I'm seing the videos the videos
of people doing that, they're trying to fight and they're
just in there just like yeah, look like they go
through like the spinning like five G chambers that they
have like amusement park, so that you get against the wall.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
I wouldn't find it. What if I win? And they're
like super no, no, no, feel no, he's all right.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
No they do with the double dose in your But yeah,
there was there was a prank that they did. They
put they're about to put somebody under and as soon
as they gave him him, they're like, all right, uh
so for the penis removal, right, He's.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Like no, I'm s so emotional distress.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, about like being a girl.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Rides with like the sling shots or they're just like,
hold on, we just got to fix something in and.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
They just launch them up in the air. They're like,
oh no, my goodness, we're gonna be launched in the air.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Volkanovsky breaking the thirty five year old streak and being
able to regain his throne as the champion, it's a
wild thing to accomplish. I didn't think it was gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
I had a vacated the.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Title, right, Yeah, So do you consider him a real champ?

Speaker 6 (12:48):
Yes, but I kind of still believe and you gotta
beat the champ to be the champ.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
He got knocked out by that guy that was his
He never got his most recent loss.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
He never got his like he got knocked out by
the champion.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
The champions like, yeah, I don't want to be champion anymore,
and we'll go over here. You could be champion. You
beat somebody. I don't know. I see, I don't know
if a fucking with that.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, depends.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
And then on top of that, the so Illiotaporia is
the one who vacated the belt. He also I don't
think we'll move back down on one forty five because.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
It's just the weight cut. It's too much.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
So then it kind of forces Alex to chase me
the which way that there is no come over here
and try to take this back or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's like, no, no, no, you have to find me son.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
It goes on like a three four five win. Then
you're like, he's champion.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
We had a couple of episodes ago where I said this,
and I think I'm still gonna stand by. I don't
see Ilias staying around long enough to I think that
him and Vocal Cross pass again unless it goes bad
for him at one fifty five, and then I can
see it someone happened. Yeah, I don't think so, But
even said he might just have like two more fights.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
I could see that too.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
He said he's ready to fight again this morning. Yeah,
almost the same height. Crazy to think about that either
one of them could kill you. Yeah, terrifying to think
that they want around this earth.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
He can kill you, and he's a funny motherfucker. That's
a weird combination. It was usually don't go.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Into the same person now, man.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Every now and then I think about, like the video
of him showing what was George Saint Pierre, like a
spinning back kick.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, he was teaching them how to do it right.
The quickness of him standing straight forward and just turning
around and launching a kick into a heavy bag and
it's sounding like a gunshot went off.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Insane. Great.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
It was a couple of years ago, so obviously he's
a little older right now, but I can guarantee you
it's still pretty impressive to do it right now, right Yeah,
Like I can't even imagine.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
That's what I'm saying. You got to be careful out
here in these streets, man. You can't be bumping into people.
Think you're gonna start a fight. No more so do
a cauliflower, but fold you.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like a check the ears right away, shout out Chase
Hooper and Jim Miller.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
I sent you guys to photo.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
I don't know what position that was that he got
folded into, but that was insane.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
He literally like they were like in a figure like sixteen.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I don't know what that was, but yeah, man, you
gotta be careful out here, bro, some of these dudes.
I mean again, I bring back that joke I forget
who wasn't said. I think it was Kat Williams of
CA and Heart when they slapped knees. Yeah, tires that.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
You see somebody get into a stand.

Speaker 10 (15:07):
That's why you gotta start with like a leg kick,
just to like throw him the funk off.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
You know, somethings like.

Speaker 10 (15:13):
Yeah, it's like, damn, he just fucking leg kicked me
first strike. Yeah, Like this guy's.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Like, well the thing is at that point, it might
be too late, so you better know your kicks and ship.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, I want them to call your blood practice the
high kick.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
He's being meth. We're good ye yeah right, I'll be fine.
I'll be fine. Uh but yeah, now that we volke
with that win, what's next for volt? I feel like
for he called out, they called out.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
He just kind of said, you know, up next will
be Mozar Evil, but it seems like Mozart has like
other plans.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
I saw a fight announcement coming up soon that I
don't know if it's necessarily true. The UFC hasn't announced anything,
so I don't know if that's necessarily.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Next for him.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
But vocals rank at number ten now Volcanovski, Yeah, well,
where's his rank right now?

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Champion?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well no, no, no, I'm saying like pound for pound,
pound for pound. Actually that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I don't know, because now they've updated the rankings, so
let me let me take a look at that.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
What do you think he's.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Gonna be ranked?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
If you had a guess, I don't know. Does all
so and you were damn close? He was ranked at
number nine, number nine? Okay, you know what for me
to think about the bal Mohammad is ranked above him?

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Listen, I like, like, this is just because it's like.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
All we have to all we have to reference it
is off his last life.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
It was like, yeah, but like bal Mohammad has better
like in recent like I understand that he's coming off
of two knockouts, but volk fought Islam and then Eliot
to Poia before that he was smoking dude, Yeah, and
you're gonna like I listen, also like all right, Islam,
John Jones, Eliot Taporia, Morob Drikus, Mago, Mad Uncle IV

(16:50):
Baha Mohammad, Alex Pereira, Alexander Volcano, Like you see what
kind of like the first.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
And John Jones, which makes sense, those two makes sense
to now they both undefeated, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
No loss and technically Jones technically John Jones has a loss.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Technically he threw the legal strike thing, but.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Islam having got number one technically, so pound for pound
is I would say it's still more like it is
factual base.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
But is this kind of opinion you.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Got to it?

Speaker 2 (17:24):
The idea isn't get you as good as you are?
Can we take you and put you in any way
class in your dominant and boxing has that for right now?
Like it's current what people think.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I think maybe just off the fact that like Islam
has fought more in that time like.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
To like I'd argue it's based off of the people
that he's also beaten. Yeah, right, Like listen, We're not
gonna say John Jones hasn't beaten some incredible.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
But like recently, he's only one person.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
It's also like the comparison I guess of like Erarors,
even though it's not been like such a huge jump
in years.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
It is also like like again, we always talk about like.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
The level that these dudes come in what they know
versus the Chuck Ladell's and the Tito Wartez like dudes
went in back then and they were like, I'm a
boxer who kind of knows how to wrestle.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Nowadays you need to know it all or done.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
You can kind of like focus in on a little
bit more on one thing, but like I'd say, you
still need to be somewhat well rounded to be like
top level. That's why like when you get a champion
where you're like yo, like for example, Alex, you're like,
wait for the wrestler because you can see that that
would be like the hole in his game. You just
wait for the guy who knows how to shoot a
good takedown and it's over. But I don't know, man,
it's a weird thing to like, it's an opinion based thing,

(18:30):
so you can't really masso much weight on it. But
I don't know, that's weird to me. Blah, Muhammad over.

Speaker 10 (18:36):
I don't know, it's Volkanovsky man like Alex pereing that
lows crazy kind.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Of even compare compared to who he has on here.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
That makes sense because realistically, I would argue his bigger
like his bigger losses have been.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Macaelm.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I would say in his wins like that is he
was be by his win, but you know it was close,
Holloway so high.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
I'd tell who he's he was fought. Also, like recently
also been on a tear the whole BMF thing too.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
True, being f like, I haven't seen anybody fight for
that ship.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Is that real thing anymore? It isn't. It isn't.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
It's like they they kind of pull it out for
like promotional pieces.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
That's been another kind of the subject of debate here.
Is this something that anybody can win?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Or is this something you have to defend because it's
so funny, Like the Intercontinental champions, it's kind of what
it is.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
The hardcore hardcore champion is what it is.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
It's the hardcore You won't even know who the hardcore
champion BacT.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
So with this one, it is it is something you
kind of look like you defend it. I guess because
like so what uh Mazadal had it and technically he
didn't lose it, but then they gave it because I
guess it vacated if you want to word it that way.
And then it was Dustin Pooria got it first, or
did Justin Gechee.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Get it first? Just Ge you got it?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think it was Gate you had it first.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Gaegee Guy at first, and then now Max Holloway has it,
so I guess technically.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
Sounds like it's something Dana White is is like slacking
on because it's into spot like it's a you got
the main people, but like then you got something sorar
You're like yo that BMF.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Sounds like the fans funk with it, right, well, so
they do they do, But to go back to like
your your your podcast, for example, it's like the in
season tournament has nothing to do with ranking or anything else.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
It's just kind of you're fun.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's it's like the I mean watching our show. You
what I mean.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
But it's something that's like meant for entertainment.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
It's meant to like hype it up, put some whatever
pay per view, but give it a title because the
other champions don't want to fight or whatever it might be.
But like what about these guys that want to move
up and get actual belts? At what point do they
forget about the b of MOLF and b A MEF
and like you we've talked about, like do you then
like he.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Got knocked out by did you lose it?

Speaker 6 (20:58):
Me?

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And you have I just gonna say something because he
didn't put like the belt on the line, but is
he the BMF? There there's a belt.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
It wasn't on the line, but he did get knocked out?

Speaker 5 (21:11):
So how do you hold the BMN.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Feel about like you having a belt? You fight the
champion for another.

Speaker 10 (21:18):
Belt, for a championship belt, for the championship belt, and lose?
You know, does that like the BMF belts not on
the line if you're fighting for this other belt.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
It's the same thing as like if you move up,
you'll see five you move up and wait, you're challenging
that person. That person's defending that. So that doesn't mean
that they get both belts if they win and they
keep theirs.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
You may look a little worse because you lost, but
but I'm surprised about Data Whites.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
I feel like every time I'm on Instagram, I see
him in front of a microphone and nobody's ever asked
him about like, yo, what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
You know?

Speaker 4 (21:50):
If people people ask him, but it has to be
Max Holloway, So it's like, well, that's also part of
the problem is that, like, this is what I was
trying to say, is that, like you have a guy
who's like Max Holloway, for example, who's.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
So actively trying to become a i'm gonna say an
actual champion, like become a weight class champion.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
So you can't have him do both.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
You can't fight contenders to move up to try to
get towards a belt and also just start defending this belt.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Unless it sounds like someone needs to vacate to be
a MEF.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Technically you could, but at the same time, you also like,
here's my thing is that you have that. But then
I granted they're still young, so they can still get
multiple shots allegedly, but like you also have the off
chance of being able to have like a Max versus
a Charles Lavera.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
That to be a me F fight, Yeah, that's to
be a me fight right.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
There, but both of them are in the top five
also waiting to get a title championship.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
So if Max Holloway wins whatever weight class he's in, belt,
is he a double champ?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I think at that point, just to be fair, you
let it go. You let's still be a champ.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
And then belt sounds fake as hell.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
He sounds like it's not real. That's what most people.
You don't.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
It's just like bet like only the those fighters.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Really like I get if it's in name like b
in name those dogs, but you have a physical belt.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, exactly, dog, So that's what it's kind of like, yo,
you between like the rock walked out with the belt
in the first fight, the first being.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Only kind of thing like I got you. They need
to drop that ship then or make.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
It or make it a thing like you. The thing
about this belt is like not just anyone can fight
for it.

Speaker 10 (23:28):
It's very it's very like specific to like, Okay, that
guy's a dog, it's a belt.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, that guy's a dog.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
No, I understand cale he's able to fight for this belt.
But if it's like that's why you gotta wait for
like the right person, I guess I don't know that
makes sense, that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
But I feel like they should just change it up
and have it the best knockout belt, whoever gets the
best knockout. I don't think it should be a belt.
I think I think you just have like a status
to give you you get put on like the MVP
Hall of Fame, the award, like you know what I mean, Like,
here's an event for the year, for this for this card.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Right, Jim Miller who fought on the prelims against Chase
super and unfortunately lost. He's headed towards his literal fiftieth
UFC fight and for his fiftieth UFC fight. He's like me,
justin Gaichee b amth belt, someone who's been in there
that long and has been in dog fights like wars. Yeah,
makes sense, like if he's fifty, if somebody else is

(24:28):
the best CT at least at thirty eight thirty.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, I mean, man, you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, it's probably not.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
It is what it is, man.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I think I don't know. I think it's a status symbol.
I think you just they get a bigger bonus than normal,
and that's part of the problem.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
There isn't anything.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, Yo, you need nothing nothing television revenue or nothing.
That's what health insurance. Nah, they get a they get
a regular jobs have elf insurance.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Nigga, we fighting in Canada, bro your contract employement.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Yeah, there's a whole there's the whole thing about it.
Fighters Union trying to be started to be started, and
they just.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Really dropped the ball on that one and not go
the way that they thought it would. Who knows, maybe
in the future, but I highly doubt it. Are these
parties getting healthy shirts?

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Next question?

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Next, definitely fighting. It's gonna be fighting straight to the hospital.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
He's going to be a president of the Fighter Union.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Someone's been he has head bashed in for twenty years.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, whoever decisions.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Whoever's retired, they can get through the full ABC's without
any problem.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
That's the guy who's running the show. Definitely the safest fight.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I mean, who announce now?

Speaker 6 (25:50):
No?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
I feel all right? So so all right, here's the here.
Here's a serious question that I want to have live
on this show. Right, How crazy do we want this
show to be?

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Because I'm on you right now, I'm on the side
of m M A Twitter that I see some stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Up now, just do it. Just do it.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I'm sorry in advance. This is dark, but this is
a real thing that I saw. It made me laugh laugh.
They're like, let's take live odds. Does bj pen attack
his mom?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
The boy looks schizophrenic right now, and it's not looking
he's like recording his mom saying that this is an
imposter and whatnot.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
It's past cloned.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Ye who's making breakfast right now?

Speaker 5 (26:35):
This is not my mom making breakfast.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I seen that video. It's so bad.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
I'm gonna just wanting you would you know it's GESP.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
You know what I'm saying. He's one of the best
lightweights of the world.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
At one point, and this goes to not just UFC,
this is all cross whatever at one point. If you
know a motherfucker is out of their mind, go pick
him up.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Like you know what I mean, Like that list.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
I'm not gonna lie to you because like some some
of this stuff, like he sounds like he needs to
be these edits and all his money too. It kind
of it kind of it kind of makes it's messed up,
but it also makes for like crazy good content.

Speaker 10 (27:13):
Unfortunately, he'll be like makes his family like robbed him
money and his family members all.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
What do the rich people when they go crazy? What
is Brittany was conservantship? That's what the sership and he
start doing that, bro never made that up.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
They'll they'll have clips like this is one.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
This is one audio clip that always goes around, but
unfortunately it is it is so messed up, but it's
met by some of the best edits I've ever seen
in my life. It is a clip of I believe
it's Tony Ferguson's wife calling the police and he She's
basically saying that the police need to come and help
and just just try to detain him. She doesn't want
him a wrestled and anything, Just detain him. Tony Ferguson
is having a mental breakdown in his garage, who he

(27:55):
locked himself away from his family because he didn't want
to hurt him or hurt them. He's having a full
mental break and it is the most like like insane
phone call and there's like what's your husband's name? And
it's like Tony Ferguson immediate edit to the most insane chaos.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
You've ever seen, Just Tony Ferguson covered like, yeah, those
are so wild.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
You the general you're like, yeah, you're thinking about it anyway.
Let's think on the opposite side.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
John Jones locked up on a car, get slamming his
head off, and then it just shows him becoming the title.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
You're responding police officer. You get that phone call, they're
like you need to go, like you're just a fucking cop.
What the fuck are you gonna do against the UFC
fighter Like, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Going in there, but you gotta tas them? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
at least that beam bag shotgun bro something.

Speaker 11 (28:45):
Man something bro figure man figure the minute that door.
I don't think a can take down these big bro what.
He looks like he already electric used himself.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
He looks like he can handle it. You no idea
anything about the UFC.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
And you get that phone call that you're like, oh,
my UFC fighter husband is having a You're like, what's
his name, Tony? Like how many wins?

Speaker 3 (29:11):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
That whole team? Right?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Ye dogs out to Hopefully he's doing okay with losing
losing his Uh, he's gonna fight in.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
The g f L.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Right, that doesn't seem like it's gonna happen a fight contract, right, Yeah,
I don't know if you've seen the news recently. But
the GFL also looked like it has immediately gone belly
up and started yet Unfortunately, the GFL, like the official
release statement, is that they had a big investor that
was supposed to like basically pay for the like the
down payment on the venues and everything they were gonna

(29:51):
do for the first two shows. I already had two
booked out, and I guess that person is nowhere to
be found.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Damn, Dana, He's not even.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
How much. Yeah, they asked Data about it, and he
was just like business is tough, man. It was like
next rush.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Immediately, let's let's that's the data white. Yeah, he's definitely.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, he definitely is super villain. You know, we love
the content, so we're gonna keep it going. That's fine,
that's fine. So where were Oh, yeah, Bolkanovski, what does
he do next? So this is gonna be a way
we're gonna do the show. Because of the way this
card is stacked, I'm gonna just kind of jump all
over the place. Normally we'll go one by one by one,
but with this one, there's so many featherweight.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
Stacked kind of in the mix.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Now, what's next for Volkanovski Yahya Rodriguez after he beat
uh Producial Pip called him out and said he wants next.
So that's an option most of also an option, so
you can do one of those two. Uh Yaya Rodriguez
called for the Guadalajara card that's going to happen later
on in the year and they're fighting in Guadalajara.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Yeah, well why they love they love that ship walahaa.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Mexico. Yeah. You know what's crazy is that I didn't
know this, but I guess he was just like, let's
fight say it like. So we're just actively working with
the cartels. Yeah, yeah, Mexico several times and so far,
so good, and they have a good you.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
Know, they always on Mexican go to bodega in Mexico
without paying the cartels.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
If you're doing a fight card, there a lot of pockets.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Again, how many avocados?

Speaker 6 (31:33):
A lot of avocados, A lot of avocados to keep
the Cineloa happened.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I bet that they do. I don't know, man, I
feel like they'll do mosvar first, but I don't know. Yeah,
you're yeah, in Mexico. I feel like would be cool
as scary as like the who's the most Mexican.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
So that was like if you guys watch like the
press conferences, like they were they were going after reach out.

Speaker 10 (32:00):
This off of entertainment. The way they we're beefing on
stage is like they weren't even fighting.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
The funniest part, it's just Volkanovski and Michael Chandler sitting
in between them, like not knowing a lick of Spanish.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
These two dudes are just going off.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
You have one that's going like I'm talking that that
Mexican Spanish, that like going off, and then you have
the other one who's Brazilian who learned Spanish, who's just
coming at him, and you're just hitting there just like damn,
I don't know anything that's going on.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
But they are.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Passionate right now. They're like up set, bro.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
I love like other Spanish cultures because like we're Dominican,
we get we get talked down upon because apparently our
Spanish is broken or whatever, we're the hicks of the
Caribbean or whatever.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
But I hear other languages. I'm like, what did you
just say?

Speaker 4 (32:40):
They're like, oh, he just called them this that, and
the third boat was crazy. I was like none of
those sounded like swears. Man, I don't even know what
he just called them. I don't I'm afraid to repeat
him on here because I don't know what is what.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
But they say whatever they want about the DR.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
I don't see any other I don't see no Venezuelan
and I don't see no Ecuadorian signing seven hundred million
dollar contracts in baseball.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yep, they's gonna say c's just like damn, they're paying
protest that much. Yeah, the whole.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Dominican, hope, the only Dominican way.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
You know, Dominican will be a heavyweight. You know about it.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I don't think they know about it. They gonna find out.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I don't think I've ever even seen anybody like trained
like boxing.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
I feel like rapid.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah, flagging all yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say I
would say the Dominican could definitely be turned up a lot,
like instead of sauce of boy, could be about the power.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Whole thing.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
You don't even like that.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Manager.

Speaker 12 (33:39):
I feel like he has a white manager that gave
him that. Is that what it is is you have
a white manager. I don't know where's his where's his camp?
Is it in DR camp? If he's smart. No Miami,
you know one of these places would be good.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
It just has this in fucking boot Lick Kansas, Like
hold up, that'd be really funny at all places.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Know who knows he went for his dreams on a
d R for a triple A baseball contract, right he
got into one of those random teams somewhere in the Midwest.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
And bailed out trying to ended up in an m
m A gym somewhere in Iowa. It's a beautiful story. Yo,
rite that ship that I'm seeing it now like that,
that'd be really funny.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Right, you can see it, right man. I probably just
want to be an NFL star.

Speaker 10 (34:31):
You know, fucking went to Miami, you failed out, started
fighting in the in the Kimbo slice was like.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
The street fights, and all of a sudden you.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Can't shows up and another way that's traded.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
A great story, man.

Speaker 10 (34:48):
We got a whole bunch of different variations of the
that's what we do, differentiation different sports stories with someone.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
The hockey one nigga like Yo, I was.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I was started though. There's always somebody out of d R. Though.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
It's always a story someone out.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Of the wanted to be a soccer player always turn
to something else.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Maddicul ends up and faking Canada for some reason.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
It's not playing hockey. Movies are going on to all
five check a check check. I'll tell you being I'll
take it, sure it.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
It's too funny.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Uh. Volkanowski back to his old ways.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I have to always just like tie right back. But
Volkanowski back to his old ways. I think he's back.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
He's gonna stay in for probably like a couple more fights,
and then I see him getting out of the out
of the game for a little bit. My thing is
with him, though there's a nut job. I don't know
if you've heard like his interviews, like he needs to
do this, Like was.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
That was gonna be my point?

Speaker 3 (35:44):
We a lot of these fighters like what's next.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
So I like to just take a quick pivot and
we're gonna make a nice little promotional announcement. Even though
this is unpaid promotion. I would just like to shout
out just because I seen it earlier on Instagram. Matt
Doherty just wrote a children's book, and that's what fighters do.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
After they finished.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Everybody goes support.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
He told me, any other fighter would have wrote a
children's book of.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Like, yeah, I believe, Yeah, we'll put out the promotional
content after this episode comes out, once I get a
little bit more information.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
But I saw Ruby mast so shout out to Matt.
But that is a good point though, Melvin.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
A lot of these fighters, that is an issue that
they run into. Either they spend their money or they
don't know a way to spend their money, or they
don't know what to do after themselves and with themselves
after the.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
BA, you retired NBA, You're going on T and TESP
and your now any any sports. You kind of just
going in media side. I don't think us he's that
big enough where you can I mean, you can do
what we do here.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
They do within the UFC. So you'll see them two
commentator jobs. Some of them will have like jobs working
at like the PI or something like that, and they'll
do little things like that, or they'll do like some
segments here and there. Others will then be able to
get into, like I guess, a higher status.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
So like for example, like a Paul Felder, I feel
like it's more of a permanent one, and Michael Bismick
has become a permanent one. Dominic cruise DC, all these
guys will become like permanent figureheads of like this is
now a commentator, but it's definitely something that not all
of them can do. And you got to think about
like the size of the roster. There's only so many jobs, man, Exactly.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
I try to get ons podcast, you feel me.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
I mean, for a good amount of them, that is
a good way to at least like promote whatever it
is that they got going on outside. But I do
find that, like I don't know, I hear more more
fighters that end up in some sort of financial struggle
that you'll see them come back to fighting versus ones
that are like promoting their businesses outside. Super heavy, which
is kind of sad, but it's.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
Hard to think, Like, if you're a fighter, you're twenty
something fighter, right, the UFC fighting is all you know?
Are you really thinking about setting up businesses and like
setting like that.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I know, you gotta just start your own gym and
just be a coach, but that doesn't always work out
a lot of them actually do.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
But then you also got to understand that that's a
business in and of itself. So if you don't even
know how to run a business yet, how are you
going to run a gym, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
So I think it's an issue of like, I don't know,
we all have the same thing when it comes to
like you go to at least public school.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
You go to like high school, and that's like let's say,
base level learning.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
They don't even teach you like financial literacy or anything
like that, Like you don't know how credit works and
none of that. So, like imagine you train your whole life.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That is, like maybe your sport or maybe you did
something else, and then after you get out of high school,
then you start on the path of professional fighting.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
You don't even really go through college unless you go
through like I guess wrestling or something like that in college.
But there's not really other martial arts that I can
think of that are big en in college. Bro, you
ain't got nothing to help you with that. And unless
you're making at least a decent amount of money or
you're smart enough to at least save it to get
like a financial advisor or something like that, what are
you gonna do? And you gotta understand a lot of

(38:45):
these dudes are like in their mid twenties or whatever.
They're starting families and this that and the third Patty Pimbleck,
who fought on this card. I think he got two
or three kids right now, and I think he just
turned thirty, So like that's that does a lot of
mouths you got to.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Feed Doug, so like you got a few good bonuses
though on this fight though, he definitely did shout out
to Patty. He definitely did shout the sixth album coming Back.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yeah beautiful.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah that was that fight was interesting.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Michael Changlin had no alloyances for him.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, it was leaking.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, it was bad. It was the elbows. You didn't
see the elbow. I saw the album. He didn't see
them coming. Yeah, you can't see anything. I think Patty
was just too much form. We're gonna pivot into this
fight if you guys can't tell, uh, Kobe coming Patty No,
Patty pimblet.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
I think it's just now risen to a level where
like you have to consider him for title contention or
at least fighting these top five contenders.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I think that you can't deny that boy anymore. Dude,
he got start energy, Dude, he does he does.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
I mean people, he walks.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
At first, it was goofy with the bowl haircut, like
the Beatles and everybody was wearing the wigs and whatnot.
But now it's gotten to the point where people are
like kind of following him more as like the actual
fighter himself. He saw Dave Portnoy with like the shirt
and everything like that, but I think everybody now he
walks in one.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Does the oh Patty the bad.

Speaker 10 (40:01):
It's like, yeahs British ass person.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Bro. He was just like, what now your bunch of mushrooms?
And I'm like, what, Like, is he being nicer to
be me.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Coming to a door hinge? And something else? I forgot
what it was and I was just like, what are
you saying right now?

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Somebody to be in your side? This is what we
say here in America.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah, I think it's way better that he says it
like a just like you know, the foreign dudes stick
to what you know man. In my opinion, I think
it's way funnier that way.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Like I think if you just stick to calling people
some random stuff, then you got to figure out yourself
that way. He blind. Because that's another part too, is
that like with with him specifically, it's like you can
go a few streets down to like another town or
something like that they sound completely different, So like what
he's saying is very.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
Specific to his hood. Like that's that's even better to me.
I think it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
But let him keep going. But I think Patty, Patty's
now on a path where he's definitely going to be
moving up.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
And he got some contenders.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
He said, I want Justin, Dustin, Charles or armand one
of those four winner gets me.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
This that common and every time someone fights is like, guy,
this is who I want to fight next.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, if you're smart, yeah, because you got to think
about it this way. Why would you want to wait
for the fans or like the UFC or US podcasters
to try to figure out an idea for you right
when you could be smart and look into who's ahead
of you, who do you think you can beat, and
give them the idea right then and there, especially if

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one that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Like listen, it's stupid with Justin.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
It's different when people.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Come out and they're like ranked fifteen or not ranked
at all, and they're trying to get Connor McGregor to
come out of bed to come and fight him, stop
or even call for the champion. No, but if you're
ranked five and you call out ranked number three, not
even the champion, just call out ranked number three.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
It's pretty good, but solid.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
Smart, find the person who you want to fight, Go
slap that nigg in the mouth of anybody.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Like I figured that would work.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
I also would there's a nigg in the crowd right
there if I slap him right now.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Apparently we never get in trouble for slapping people in
the crowd.

Speaker 6 (42:10):
That's in the crowd goes viral because it just smacked
somebody in the crowd that those two should fight.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
And then you check to your point or me, you
do this for you the whole time, to your point,
smacking niggas that don't like me. To your point.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Though, at the at the press conference, before any of
these fights even happened, we had Yahya Rodriguez and Diego
Lopez yelling at each other and they're not even scheduled
to fight each other. But now, before those fights even happened,
if whoever wins, we're like, that's already a fight that
you can make down the road. And now we're thinking
it makes sense. Now, does your year get a title
shot Againstvolkanosi or does or does Diego in your ear
fight it out in Guadalajara instead, and I think that

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that was a bigger fight with a weird professional fighter.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Like I'm telling like respect out the window. I'm just
saying this the most wildly ship like I'm immediately talking
about your mom going right, because it's like I'm going
to get my money. I'll be the villain, I'll be
the bad guy. I feel that makes that made it
whole career about being the bad guy.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
But I think you gotta be good at it like you,
Like you said, it's the Colby Covington type of thing,
like Kobe Covington created it like a w W E
character to be that.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
But here's I agree with you, But here's my thing
with that. It takes a lot for you to back
that up. Colby Covington hasn't you know? I gotta look
this up too. I did not look it up because
again this is uneducated, so I don't know.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I heard a stat that was like Colbe Covington, No,
let me let me worry it this way.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Kabeb Normaga Medoff has a more recent win over a
current UFC fighter than Colby Covington did, and Kolbee retired
five years ago.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
The boy raised the Trump boy, right, but he's the yeah,
and he's the villain. He's the one that goes around
kinds of and is like, yeah, fight this guy.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
So we all laughing.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
After Patty won, Kobe is chirping at him, telling him
that he's asked and they're not even in the same
weight division. Just so you get some clout, bro, make
it makes sense. Make it make sense. So to an extent,
I agree with you. I do think you need to
promote yourself. But I will say this, like, I don't
know necessarily walking around smacking people is the right way
to do.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
But the street Jesus, Jorge Monsels all two piece of
the soda. He's known for that. Now he's no for
Leon Edwards I was talking about.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
I wouldn't say every time you want to fight, somebody
goes slap him in there. But like you know, you
know how you have the thing behind the glass, like, yo,
I need to do something. Slap a nigga in the crowd.
Yeah that gets your little hype.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah, I'll get you something.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
You know.

Speaker 6 (44:32):
I used to know a beer dude who's like he's
had a couple of fights. You need to respect him.
You know what I've I've done so good fights. I'm
on the streak.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Y'all ain't paying attention to No, I don't have to
smack a nigg in.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
The crowd then that works.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
I mean, you got to bring in HB. You gotta
bring a niggas in the mouth. You got to bring
in something to get the crowd hype. You got to
give him something to like stick to.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
We always talk about whether or not you can bring
in all this w W story element into it, or
whether you want to go straight off the rankings, but
you have to admit it makes you want to watch
the fights a little bit more if they's his story.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
So I feel like I don't want to see it.
Like That's why I like when it's real. Like when
some people like like John Jones and DC to this day,
you can tell still don't really like each other.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
They they'll be cordial. They'll be cordial, yeah time.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
But you can tell, like as an upcoming fighter and
you think it good, make it real. You're trying to
make friends out here, fuck friends, Make it real. Like
you know what if Fitty said does like that's gonna
be my enemy for the rest of my life.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Fuck him. I don't like them.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
I mean, like, you know what I mean, fuck him,
I will say, to a point, it does hinder like careers.
So this, I guess, kind of ties into a lot
of this nonsense. So we got h Iliot Tuporia who
moved up to one fifty five, who's trying to chase Islam,
But then Islam's trying to move up to one seventy
to chase the one seventy belt, but.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
He won't fight the Lah because they're boys.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
So that's to your point, Why make friends if it's
going to hinder your career moving up exactly.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
So that's another part of it. Some people are willing
to put it past themselves and be like, I don't care.
I'm'll fight them anyway.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
I definitely have seeing a lot more examples of being
people like I like him too much for me to
even try to sign that contract. But it's like, you know,
you could beat his ass and you become champion, you
get paid three times as much. Yeah, who cares? Man, Like, yeah,
in the same sport. Yeah, yeah, it is what it is, man,
it is, man. I feel like you got to let
that go.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
If you're in a different sport, but this is the
fighting sport in the same camp. Yeah, it is bad
in the same camp. It is what it is. You
tell me you can't spar or train with somebody in
your same camp. I get it. It's the difference when
it comes to actually fighting. But this is what you're
sparring trained for. You know.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
I'll turn heel.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I'm in that. I'm in that camp.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
I ain't in this camp anymore. I'm beating all y'all
sweet music down the hallway to Steve Board.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Trust me, just a bro. Every company event ever, you
have to like either way, the camp is going to
make money. It's like, hey, we're in the same camp.
This camp is making money.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
You know.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Even say, where's like to be the next Connor? I
think UFC needs another Connor. Not Connor McGregor, but the
bad guy you need. The Trump ship is a gimmick
like that that ship you need the bad guy. They're like,
damn it, this motherfucker keeps talking ship, but he keeps
knocking people out.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
That's the problem is I think that the the bag. Unfortunately,
the bad guys aren't bad guys. For example, elliots Apia.
I would argue he's not a bad guy. He talks,
he talks very confidently, smack, but I wouldn't say he's
necessarily like he's just for example, there's a clip going
around he's like, I'm gonna ask Islam what his favorite

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submission is, and I'm gonna sumit him with just to
show that I'm better than him.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
But he's not necessarily saying that. Isn't as bad. He's
just like I'm better than him. He'll say stuff like that,
but people are like, he's such.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
An arrogant asshole. I don't like him.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
A bad guy, but he's not a bad guy.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
That's literally what it is.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
It has to be a thing you can't go in there,
but no gimmick of the bag.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
But that's what I'm the guy who holds up, the
guy who.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Ends up being like the heel in most situations, isn't
necessarily a heel.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
The problem is is the guys who like force it
aren't good. They just always end up flopping.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
That's prob.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
The guy who's known as the bad guy, Chail Sonning
never really touched gold. You feel me like undefeated for sure,
never lost a fight, but never touched gold either.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
He's not undefeated.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
It's all than you gotta mma.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
Lower, it's all.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
But yeah, he like it's just stuff like that where
I feel like you have the Sean Stricklands, you have
the Colby Covington's, you got these guys who come in
and they're like, try to be the bad guy. They're
not a bad guy. As weird as it is to say,
going back to.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Three fourteen, Bryce Mitchell, I don't think that he was
necessarily trying to be a bad guy when he said
all that stuff on episode one of his podcast, Guys,
we've been here for a minute. Listen, I'm only I
think this is what episode twenty, you guys are on
one hundred and eighty something or whatever it might be.
I don't think you've never said.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Anything as crazy as he did on episode one.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Of his podcasts that was wild, good enough to go
fishing with? He did, you want to go fishing with them?
It's crazy, it's crazy. But even then that's not necessarily
like he didn't mean to, I guess say it in
a way of like trying to be a bad guy.
He just said some crazy stuff and even then, like
we rooted for him to get knocked out.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
He didn't get.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Knocked out, he got choked out. You can go out
and body experience, bro, when they.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Zoom up like that, it's crazy. Hold On was like, yeah,
that looks bad.

Speaker 6 (49:28):
You just go straight villain straight Baane like straight, like
you need something, you just need something something that's just
like you're just not a regular fighter like what I've seen. Again,
I'm if this is uneducated. I'm definitely uneducated. From my
scene from the outside is that like somebody gets hot?
Is the story for a year?

Speaker 3 (49:46):
To have two years? But no one, there's no scene.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
No, there's no Rock, there's no Stone Cold, there's no
somebody who just like I'm nasty forever.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
No. That was the thing that I think a lot
of people wanted to have, is to have like a
superstar that was like that.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
I guess you had like the Kabe, but even then
it wasn't like marketable enough, like you had Connor who
was a bigger star.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
But Connor knows wasn't necessarily unefeated.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
But like, I don't know, man, I don't think you
necessarily need to be this undefeated person to be like
that guy.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
I think you just have to be good enough to maintained.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
I don't think you have to be undefeated. I mean,
like Ali lost five times and he's.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Still I would just like to throw up this headline.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
By the way, I always like to do doing research
and whatnot, a refresher course before I pull up here,
just like headlines and different little topics to bring up.
I would just like to look up this one right
here that I brought. I saw so Bryce Mitchell I
was looking into his fight against Jean Silva. He lost
via submission, and this is.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
A beautiful headline that I read while I was trying to.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Like look into stuff pro Hitler, UFC star who would
die for Donald Trump?

Speaker 5 (50:40):
Choked out in front of President?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Fo Fox News what Irish star posted two days ago.
I don't know, man, I don't know what a world
do we live in, But yeah, I just find out.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
A lot of the.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
I throw that out there.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
I find out a lot of the superstars at the
UFC has like a lot of them become fan favorites,
but nobody does this like unstoppable Force, even like guys
like Hamza Shamayah. When he came out to the scene,
people were like, this guy's an unstoppable force.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
And then he got a little cold and he couldn't
fight and almost died in the hospital. So like his
immune system whooped his ass. So there you go, there's creating. Yeah,
I mean he's back, but he's not like yeah, John Jones.
It's just like he would never say no.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
But that's my even John Jones, Like I feel like
that kind of like break break is also I mean,
I guess it's short term memory if you watch his
overall career, like yeah, but break kind of slowed things
down and then they always have an end obviously, but
even like I would argue, kuld be up and I
would say maybe his last five to six fights is
when people were like, yo, this guy's oh, oh you might.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Be at that point he's twenty four, twenty five and
oh or whatever, like yeah, just because the other ones
were like, you know, it was John Jones.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
I think.

Speaker 6 (51:52):
I don't think he ever had like I mean, he
had his big fights, but he never had anybody who's
equaled him, Like you didn't have the the you know
what I mean, that fight would like the arrival.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
You beat me once, I beat you once I got
the third fight.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
This is for all the marbles kind of ship knowing that,
knowing that I guess got like beat him, but he
definitely had I guess like fights with like rivals. Again,
shout out to this card Dominic Reyes, who's like arguably
beat him. If you watch the fights and people are
really still to this day on either side of the
fence Dominic Rays by the way, the title run starts now,
the title run starts now.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Like real quick about like, oh, he almost beat him.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
I feel like like if you're fighting a champion, you
have to and it's close, it should go to the champion,
Like you have to beat the champion.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
So that's the thing is that you get to like
the just because you don't knock him out though, right,
But on scorecards you're saying you could beat the champion.
Like that's okay, that's okay, yeah, because that's that's what
people believe, like they think that I'm not saying you
have to knock him out.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
No, no, no, but that's what I'm saying. People like
if you watch the fight, like to this day, reap
like watch it a few times. There are a lot
of people that are like, no, he won that.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
I give him four to three to four rounds to
Reyes and John Jones for whatever reason got to win.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
That's where people are like that.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
I always talk about it asby or is it petty theft?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
People say it's a full blown robbery. Full blown robbery.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
That's a little different and that makes a little bit
more entertaining of like, all right, let's run this one
back and maybe we do something different.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
But they never got that one to come back, so
that's a little unfortunate.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
But I don't know, man, you got the sugar shot
O'Malley's who got a lot of hype and then they
go up against a guy like Morob and then all
the hype kind of goes away.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
He's going back against he is going back against Morob.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
But I'll tell you right now, it's not that feeling
of him walking in TD with with Superstar as his
walkout song and he knocks out al Jamin and Sterling
and everyone's like, oh my god. Like since then, in
my opinion, like listen shout out to Sean, like, I
do feel he's got like a resurgence on the.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Way Cheeto after Sterling though, which that was a good fact.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
I think that that was him still kind of like
all right, now, let's see if he can. Let's he
got his I guess the one loss back. Now let's
see if we can get him to do something bigger,
because that was, like I would say, getting the belt
brings you here, that first defense, depending on who it's against,
is still kind of like you're either here or I
would argue you didn come down.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Yeah, you're just kind of like coasting up until you
then start testing yourself against people who, like, like I
said earlier, the Alex all right, let's see him go
up against a wrestler. Let's say he went up against
a real wrestler.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I would argue alive winning kickboxed him for the most part,
but like someone who really is like takedown heavy and
he manages the stuff, all the takedowns and beat him.
All right, you just passed that test, and people were like,
all right, this is your next challenge.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Once you beat those challenges that people have for you,
those like markers, that's what makes you elevate your game
to get to that great goat level. That's the reason
why like Volkanovski, that's why I'm so shocked that he's
so low on that list, because like, regardless of his.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
Last two losses.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
His last fifteen wins have been amazing, so like you
know what I mean, Right now he's looked at as like,
I think it's one or two more wins and he
beats Aldo's record for the most like title, I guess
fights or defenses.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
So yes, he's on his way to being etched in history.
I guess he already is there, but as one of
the greatest of all time. I don't know, man, I
think I think it's weird. I think it's I think
it's like a lot of work you gotta do to
kind of get to that point. But I don't I
don't know if the UFC has like that one guy
or they just have a division that'll be popping and
you really tune into like that kind of as like

(55:27):
a channel almost.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
You know what I mean, Like I don't know if
you you could put that weight on like well, I
don't know. I mean, you had Alex and Izzy for
a while. That one was like a kind of a
back and forth. Is he had this like, man, this
is one guy who just beats him every single time,
and he managed to get that win and that was huge.
But then now you were kind of back in this
like all right, Now, what you know, it's like Islam

(55:48):
fighting these guys who he's about to fight right now,
most of them, most of them he's already fought. Most
of them have been in this division, have kind of
been a rotating door around the belt. They want somebody new,
they want somebody fresh.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
He's even said he'd fight Patty just to get it
to be a little bit more lively, because he's like
these guys, they've all lost.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Then he doesn't want to fight another one forty five.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
And I agree with the reasoning behind it.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
If you're at a higher weight class and you fight
another guy that's below you and then deck or it's
just it's just like you're stepping down in a way
because he's not an equal level to you in I guess,
in competition. And another part of that is if you
look at it as like a legacy thing. If he
ends up like let's say Taporia, he beats Taporia and
then Tapouria loses again against another one ffty five, what

(56:31):
did that win matter?

Speaker 2 (56:34):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Now, if he beats him and then Taporia still manages
to murder the other top five and gets another title shot,
then maybe we'll talk about it, but like, I don't know.
I think Taporia has to prove himself at one fifty
five and fight one of these top five, give him
Arman or give him Charles, and then give the other
one to I guess Patty or something, and then we'll
go from there.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
But I don't, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I think you got to do a lot to be
able to And then also I think it's also a
problem he we don't consider them stars.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
That's another part of it.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Outside the US, these dudes are huge following like crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
We don't see him as that because they're not marketed
to us the way that we want. Like you think,
you think anybody in the US really wants somebody who
like sacrifices so much like the way Islam does to
be able to be the guy that he is, following
the religion that he has and just doing everything he
does in his day to day. It's not what we
want to say. But the Jordan to come in.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Every league had their one person to come in.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
I mean John Jones is Jordan, I think, yeah, But
like you know, because he's American.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
It's like how active is he? That's the thing. John Jones,
is Jordan's Who's Lebron? Lebron?

Speaker 6 (57:43):
Who's gonna be the next Who's the who's the phenomen
who comes in? Every sports has had one American though,
that can be the face of the league.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
That's the issues. If you're gonna if you're gonna.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
Think someone like if he's marketable enough for Connor was
the face and he's not American?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
True, that's true.

Speaker 6 (58:03):
I think it's just someone who well spoken, someone who
has a swag. You can be Canadian, I don't know
if Canadian fighters there. You can be a Puerto Rican
Patty becomes the mean, Oh yeah, you could be Patty
someone who literally like Englishman Englishman bro.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I'm looking at it even right, all right, ready these
are the champions?

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Or just talk about like marketable John Jones, who everybody
argues on his way out.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
Yeah, and then technically you have Tom Aspinall who I would.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Say is like, if you're a UFC head, you're like, yeah, dope,
But if you're not, you don't care.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
Like if you're a casual fan, you're.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Like, I didn't know him until the John Jones shit exactly.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Maga mat Anklive at light Heavyweight drinkis tu plus he's
a middleweight, Bala Mohammed welterweight, Islamkachev light heavy or lightweight,
Alexander Volkanowski featherweight, Marob Devalosh Philly is bantam waight, Alexander
Pantoja's flyweight. I'd argue, out of everybody had just said there,
Volkanovsky's the biggest name out of all the champions that
everybody casual.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
As fu and they keep winning on a champion.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
That's That's what I'm saying, Like, that's the issue that
they're fighting right and his boys are ruining the UFC,
is what it sounds like. I find them exciting. Is
the problem if you're a fan of the actual like
it's like.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
They're not marketable. It's the way that they don't care.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Over here is always like, oh but you understand if
you are Hooper, you know what I mean? If you
I get like, that's that's what if you're like, if
you like the sport for the.

Speaker 6 (59:23):
Actual support, but for the UFC that really grow, you
need the fight fans and then the casual fans that watch.
The guys who like the NBA goes like they're watching
what they're the girls who watch with their boyfriends or
the Christmas Christmas let's watch the Christmas games, o, the
people who just only watch the Super Bowl. You guys
need the casual fans, and to have casual fans, you

(59:44):
need this superstar that like my mom knows who Michael
Jordan is. He's never watched basketball ever. Like you need
somebody like that.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Some guys are not. They don't care to be. They
don't want to be.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
They just want to fight, fight, get that bell, go
back to their country and just chill kid ship.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah yeah, play with my horse, that's what they want. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
They're thinking over every league, right, you be thinking out everything,
but they these guys are rustling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
So how we're gonna market down? We are here, we
are beef to do the episode from Agustan one day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Yeah right, you let me know how that goes live
from the Aagistan itself.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I'm educated really funny, you know, I was gonna say,
And then just for the for the women's side of
the m M A card, it's kind of the same
thing as a whole I'd argue, they're just not as marketable. Unfortunately,
people don't people don't tune in that much in the
women's m m A at all for the care.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
You definitely need a superstar girl, you need Ron the Rousey. Yeah,
because even w N b A we just had to
care because of what than Clark and a couple real supersides.
Other than that, we didn't give it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Yeah because even even like looking at like the top
five of them the weight classes, like even like I
would again we're just talking casual fans. There's no one
that I would argue was like a casual fan would
even remotely understand the name Valentino ship Chenko. Maybe maybe
because you've been around for a minute, like maybe her
people would know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
But like, other than that, I think Aman.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Would be the most change all that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
That would change sex sous a baddie will change the game, and.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
I agree that it does.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
But again we go back to like the skill issue,
Like I'm not going to sit here and act like
there aren't attractive women in the UFC. There's plenty, you
trust me, but none of them are near good as
the top five.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
I think you's gotta be good enough.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
The only unfortunate the ones that they're good enough. They're
good enough to like Alger.

Speaker 6 (01:01:54):
Or what's that girl's name, Kayla Harris, thank you, was like,
please say it. I don't want to say it, but
I was like, she's clearly on steroids or at least
what she.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Gets tested, or at least what she gets tested. That'd
be really funny, that's what she's like. No, it's actually
a big plantain diet.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Right. I met just Dominican once when I was in it.

Speaker 10 (01:02:21):
Looks like American Gladiated.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
So you're just gonna do it like it's like Jesus, sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Glad, remember that show. Yeah, I used to love that show. Yeah,
she's jack like that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Well, you know, she's like an Olympic gold medalist in judo, right, Jesus.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
She's not like a normal emad at judo.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
It's the craziest thing. Like Ronda Rowsey was a big judo.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Like I think it's one of those like mma things
that you get into like here US based judo, taekwondo.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I feel like, I guess basic karate are the first
things I think of. I feel like very few people
I know get into.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Like wrestling as like you're thinking in high school and
even then, I don't really think have you ever met
a little kid that's in wrestling? Uh think you're little,
like when you were a little kid, like everyone did
baseball or they did like football. Nobody was ever like
a fifth grader in wrestling, Like that's not I knew.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
I knew.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
But you know plenty of little kids that did karate.
Maybe they didn't tech one over a little bit or whatever.
A cop what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
You don't see any like judo guys.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
No, I would find, at least in m m A.
I find that there's a lot of men from Brazil
that have like a judo background, But it also seems
like Brazil sports are very different.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
They teaching that ship as like like like a regular class.
I kind of like that pro Project Adventure.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
I kind of like that, though.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
The should kind of like change it up and have
that be like a thing here. I feel like change
up the sports a little bit. Maybe that's what we're missing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
We can't we can't even get people to do regular
ship you want them to do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I feel like it'd be fun. Yeah why not?

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
No, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
I love it. But just imagine Salem I had a
boxing team.

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
That'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
I feel like a good amount of people wuld sign up.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
Little Timmy gets his ass kicked by Jamal and there's
no fucking boxing class anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
That's the world we live in.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Like, yeah, we got we got, we got enough talent
that I feel like we would have like too many
to be like caring about little Timmy. You feel me,
I think the ratio now would be a little off.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
That's just me personally.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
It has been out for a while, but somehow we didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Yeah, it seems like.

Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
The the young culture right now I think are getting
into like boxing a lot more than before.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I think that's Jake Paul and those guys doing a
good job. I'm with it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
That's why I don't I don't hate any of that
stuff like as goofy as. It is like you can
tune in, you can or decide not to, but like
they're doing a good service. I feel like a decent
amount of people are starting to get into the sport
at least as a whole, and then you have the
young audi instead of going to get into it.

Speaker 10 (01:04:57):
The thing I'm seeing a lot more like boxing gyms
being opened around stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
What do you think about just like the celebrity boxing,
like they'll just match up to random celebrities who don't
have a fighting or boxing background just to they all suck.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
I'll tell you right now, it's not interesting. You're not
gonna care for the fighters. It's not a good fight.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Yeah, it's just watched a couple of them and we
thought it was cool. We thought it was gonna be
like celebrity death match, and that was exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
What we're thinking it was. It never really was.

Speaker 6 (01:05:25):
It was just like yo, yeah, and it's just kind
of disappointing every time. I'm really disappointed anytime I see
the celebrity match or some.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
A friend of mine just recently started taking jiu jitsu
classes and was telling me that they were like, yo,
three minutes is not no, three minutes, three minutes forever,
and I was just like practicing rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
I was just like, yeah, man, like it is.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
It is not no joke.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
That's all.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Like you do planks and stuff like that when you're
working out, like that is the longest sixty seconds of
your life. So like people like you could be an athlete,
but when you get into like either the ring or
you decide to get into the octagon, that cardio was
super different.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Different stuff to go.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Man, forget the skill of like landing a punch or
a kick, like them getting tired. That's why you see
like these like x NFL players or whatever trying to
like get the gloves on, and it's like, well this
is this is hard to watch, man, that's hard to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
They can't keep up.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
They don't have the cardio for Yeah, it is crazy
the durance at all to even like so now UFC
is not going to be on ESPN no more.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
That so they may or may not resign. I was
watching a couple of different a couple of different takes
on it. So there's the idea of, Okay, we can
resign with ESPM.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
There's the idea of going to a completely different network,
well completely altogether, like following WWE under TKO and going
to Netflix. But then there's also this interesting idea of
like what if we just split it all up. Fight
nights are here, uh, Dana White Contender series and The
Ultimate Fighter are over here, and pay per views are

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over here, and we just kind of have it all
over the place. We really get grow our audience, kind
of spread it out a little bit more and let
people kind of do their thing. I personally feel like
that is the smarter way to go. If you have
more free TV events that people can tune in to watch.
I think that will grow the audience more. My only
request not no apex card nonsense. This needs to be

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You're in a city, there is a crowd, and it's
a fight night. Put that on TV for people to
watch at a sports bar. The thing that I've been
arguing every single week about, Bro, I hate being either
brought out outside of my house to go watch whatever
and I'm sitting in a corner on my phone. I
shouldn't be at a sports bar with ninety million TVs
and not one of.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Them has a fight night on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
I understand a pay per view. I totally get a
pay per view. There's money that goes into that. Some
places called like they'll give you like a cover charge
or something like that. But like, Bro, a fight night,
Like that's come on?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
So have you ever tried.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
I know this is being a wild concept, but like
asking them to put the channel on?

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Boy? Yeah yeah, boy, that's like nothing. You coming to
me at my job and being like yo, you never
have them to just turn it off and turn it
back on? Yeah trust me?

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Yeah no, I'm telling you, like I ask every single time.
There are places I won't even go to anymore because
I'm not even I'm not going to have the same
argument with them all the time because I'll tell them
and be like, yo, listen, put me in the back.
I don't mind being put somewhere elsewhere, like I understand,
Like listen, we all.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Know there are ways to get these fights on.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
Yeah, one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
You don't got to have a pointed time for TV
or something like that. TV away from a window.

Speaker 6 (01:08:29):
Put me in the back, and fighting and finances on ESPN, Yeah,
change the channel.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Just fucking putting ESPN.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
I don't need thirteen hockey games. Put hockey in a
couple of TVs.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
But trust me, you can't.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
But I don't need thirteen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
That's with you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
That's what I'm saying. It'll be a million tvss. Just
give me the one. That's all I'm asking for.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
But that's why I think that that model will work
out a little bit better with also getting more people
to start watching.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
I think. I think for the UFC, it's a good idea.
It makes sense for them to able to spread out
there you know, pretty much all their fights or you know,
with different other streaming services. As a fan, I don't
want to be subscribed to three or four five different
streaming services just to watch already.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
And they and they know that that's how they like,
I know, like the best app, but you have everything there.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
I'll tell you this right now. You know how asked
ESPN is as an app?

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
I watched the fights on Hulu or Disney Plus because
ESPN as a UI is.

Speaker 6 (01:09:37):
Do you think the UFC will ever get away from
pay per views like wrestling has because w W don't
do pay per views anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I think once they, once they get a big enough following,
it would make sense for them to do so because like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
With profits that much, because I think a majority of
people not pay.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
Here's the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Here's a different and this is where they really got
to lock in on this one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Merch.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Think about how much money the WWE hasn't merch. Everyone comes,
everyone comes in dripped out, and they leave with more.
They order it online. They're consistently buying throughout Christmas and
all that. That that's how they get their money out.
They pumped that out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
So when it comes to the UFC, like doing BRO,
they don't really.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
You go to the website and you go to go
like to shop. It's it's nonsense.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
You can buy like the fight kit that has like
the person's name, but it's not like custom merch made
by the UFC. You always have to go through like
a third party that got like the licensing shoutouts to
Full Violence. They make amazing, they make amazing, amazing some
conomic Gregor ts that could be Like, then you have
to pay the fighters, bingo. They have to understand when

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they got into bed with Rebok and then after that
they got in bed with Venom and all these other fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Brands, and you see them now that they're in their uniforms.
They no longer have sponsorship logos up the wazoo. They don't.
I don't even know if they get a cut of
being in the video game anymore. Bro, Like, I don't
know what they get paid besides fighting in and of itself.
They're using their name. I don't know if they get
like that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
Because for M B A M will be and everything
is the only reason you get paid is because you
have a players association that negotiates that for you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Fighters. You motherfuckers can't even go to the doctors without
paying a copay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
They it was a whole Like I said, it was
a whole lawsuit.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
It was a whole thing. They tried their darnedness. Not really,
they took the buyout and they just kind of stopped.
I don't think that it's allowed to even happen anymore.
I don't know what is going on with that situation.
It's way above my pay grade. But unfortunately, I think
it's going to be a very very very long time
and something absolutely insane is going to have to happen
for them to get some sort of union of any sort.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
To be able to get those types of things have
to die on this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
So maybe that's the only way they need action figures
and a whole bunch of others. How the fuck do
you not have action?

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
It's kind of market the kids. You gotta you gotta
like so that they get familiar with who these stuff,
how we do what you?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Uh w w.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
They have all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
It's all stuff you buy when it's like the pay
per views comes. So for example, the posters, you'll see
it on the embedded series. They're signing a million posters.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
And people will buy those. They have like basic stuff,
but it's nothing I would say, not really like if
you do.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
If you do the give and take, we're like, all right,
we're gonna do all this merchandise.

Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
We're gonna give you a cut, honestly, give him whatever
cut you want, like eventually in a couple of years
to argue. And if you make a Fighters Association, you
do what every other sporting agent does. Collect they're bargaining
every five years. You negotiate, ship, you work, then you
get paid for all you can charges. You can do this,
you can do that, the videos, you do all that
ship and everybody get paid. Yeah, or you could even

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you could even do like UFC gym equipment and ship
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Well that's what I'm saying. They have stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
But you see gloves, bag your figures, posters, et cetera.
All that stuff you see do third party like licensing
Instagram pages and stuff like that. That'll get like permission
from the UFC to make that stuff. But you never
see it directly from the UFC.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Or rarely do I see a partnership with the UC
where they're selling like merch or the UC themselves has
like promoted by this stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
Now it's always like the fight kit, But nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Is such an untapped revenuely, like why the fuck are
you not?

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Like I will say this, though I do it makes
sense if they're gonna do it, they need to say
action figures would be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Cool, but make that like a collectible and partner with
certain things.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
But I would say with like shirts and sweatpants, hoodies,
things like that where you can sell at the event too.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Is there really that you don't want to pay these motherfuckers?
It's crazy because greed is a fucking crazy thing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
It's just like I would say it's I would say
it's partially that, and then I would also say, like
the margins are also like I wouldn't say thin, but
I would say it's It is kind of difficult. You
have to see how many other MMA promotions start up
and fail, start up and fail, start up and fail.
The UC has made and it's to maintain its spot.
I would say, argue for a reason. But you will
say MMA is kind of like taking a downturn in

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terms of like viewership.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
So that's also a big problem.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Of what do you want to make gain or do
you want to grow?

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
You gotta grow, and eventually, like I think that they'll
be able to figure out nothing. But I think that.
I think that streaming might be it because, like I
said earlier, this is gonna throw you the bag. They're
under the t k O that owns w W owns them.
That already makes sense. It's never gonna go away because
of t k O.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
If you if wrestling is part of the package, wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Is never going away.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
Motherfuckers love wrestling.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
So it's just kind of like the w n b
A was gonna trag you guys along with you with
us because this is so profitable, so might as well
shoot for the fucking stars you got, you got Big Boss,
you got the DP pockets and t KO.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Crazy, Like what the fuck are you doing? Yo?

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Are y'all hiring? Because like, I'll help you out a
moving to Vegas?

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Just walk up there and slap who's ever up there?

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
That's my job?

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Yeah? What do you do? Marketing? Is that what I
play for?

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I'm intrigued to see where they go.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
I think I think they have a lot of interesting revenues.
One that I feel like would be cool would be
obviously like Netflix, but I feel like Amazon is one
that's like slept on low key. I don't think they
should go to anything as exclusive as like an Apple
TV Plus or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I think it's I think Amazon, here's the one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Obviously, check will be big enough.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Amazon I think is a smart play because almost everybody
has an Amazon Prime subscription and you get it just
because you have that. So I feel like that's a
smart play. It comes down to the bag. But then also,
what what do you do give them discounts for buying
merch directly through Amazon or something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Like that, like anything anything.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
Yeah, there's got to be something there. We'll figure it out.

Speaker 6 (01:15:46):
Put that shit in both Netflix, Amazon Everywhere, and ESPN.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
That's why it would be a bad idea to kind
of split it up.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
I like the idea of like keeping like if you're
really into the sport and you like other or ESPN,
keep Contender series on there, and then keep the Ultimate
Fighter on there. If you like that content, like you're
really into it, say that, keep that on. If you're
into like the Fight Night it's more casual. I don't
know if there's like I would say that would be
more so like a Netflix or an Amazon Prime.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
And then the same thing with the pay per views,
you just kind of put it on one of those two.
Maybe you kind of offer them up to boat.

Speaker 6 (01:16:21):
And also UFC does when we watch you watch the
pay per view, what do you have to do to
we watch it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
I got you like you gotta church cla ship.

Speaker 6 (01:16:34):
If I saw on Netflix rest sometimes I catch Monday
night Rob but if I miss it, that's just there
the next morning, I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Can just watch it. Yeah, you don't miss it at all,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
Like some people like it's like a person like me
can't fucking make it the fucking midnight to watch the fight,
So maybe I'll watch it in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
You still get your views, You still get your ship. Yeah,
you know, you know, obviously your peak is at ten
o'clock with you and whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
But you know, trickle in the next couple of days,
you gonna get mad views because people, all the people
with kids like you know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
And I'll also say this again going back to like
these sneakers need to hire me, going back to like
the user interfaces.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
I don't know about you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
But when I go on there, it takes you, like
to find the UFC spot, like it takes me forever
to find where the UFC spot is.

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
And so I was watching ahead, I was watching uh
not to contend the series the other one almost season
two with Rich Franklin and fucking Matthews and fucking every
single time I'm watch an episode I passed back.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
It takes me all the way back to the beginning.

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
So, like, bro, when I just go back to the
rest of the episodes, it didn't even allow me to
go to the next episode.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Yeah, I hate never getting through.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
It is like, bro, so I got got almost feels
like they don't want to be popular.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
It almost feels like it feels hidden on the app.
I'll tell you that it is.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
It almost feels like like like the UFC is working
against itself.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
Like I wouldn't be a thousand percent shocked. Well, I
would argue if all of a sudden there's a sale, No, no, no,
you need you need this. You need them to be
at the peak for them to make the money. You
need them to be doing very well, and then they sell.
In this situation, this is one hundred and ten percent
ESPN's fault. This is one hundred percent their fault. UC

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just gives them the content. They're like, here's the stuff,
you handle it from here, and they're just dropping the ball.
There should be no reason. On a fight night it
is a big paper view.

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
You're giving me replays of the Masters and then I
gotta go and look for the live UFC card.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
That's nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Number one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Relative to most sports, UFC is a new new thing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
It is it is.

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
I'll give you that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
ESPN is run by a lot of old heads, so
they probably like, yeah, put a little the side. But
I also I also have to blame to like like
you said, you see like you just handed the content
and said the other ways to be, like, yo, can
we put somebody over there that you know run you
make a position for UFC and your it was, but

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the salaries, there's just ways to do ship and it
just like it sounds lazy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
It sounds like, yeah, you guys do this for me.
It does kind of sound thought you did.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
I'm all right, well it was the espnos they gave us.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
Oh well it sounds like some half assed fu We
run our podcast fucking more better than that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Yeah, she's definitely bigger than they're making it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
No got bread.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
That's argue argument a lot of people have in terms
of like fans with the UFC bro like, like I said,
the APEX needs to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
You make way too much money. To not put on
live events in front of a bigger crowd. You shouldn't
have this your gym that you own, Like it's whacking there.
Nobody wants to be in there, COVID gym. They gotta
do way more live events. You got to come up
with the merch.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
You've got to figure out the streaming services to be
a lot better, more accessible, because at this point it's whack.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Also a bigger part is also like putting like you said,
the putting out the clips born because like it's a
big thing when they put out a clip for like
a like an knockout or something right after it happens.
Normally you have to wait a couple of days to
see that or something like that. That's another part of
it that I think is trash. Also for the casual fans.
I get like streaming and whatnot, but I think it's
like twenty one days for it to become available. If
you're just a standard ESPN CLAUSS member and you didn't

(01:20:14):
buy the pay per view, you know, everything within a week,
the amount of podcasts and other things that come out,
you know everything, do it a week later, bro, come
on like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
At least that way, it gives people more of a
chance to watch it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:24):
And there's nothing, nothing stopping you that the minute that
shit ends at one in the.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Morning, it's not available at the at the right there's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
It already happened. Yeah, already happened. It's right there. What yeah,
what I don't get. I don't get that. Man, the
US's run.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Like some I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
I don't know who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Maybe next episode novel will be CEO of I guess
Netflix you have, I don't want me. We'll figure it
out next time on another episode of Uneducated MMA.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
As always, everybody, I didn't know you got abruptly like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
I figured, Oh, hold on, we got a surprise before
we do.

Speaker 6 (01:21:01):
So you've said countless times that you've heard every one
nickname you can never think of.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Let's go, so I'm gonna shoot my fucking shop man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Which one do you got? Someone them? Plug?

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Is Mike? How many? The one?

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I just looked up and then I got some of
my mind to he googled a couple. Yeah, chah, yeah, chat, Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:21:26):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
I wouldn't say that's like a don Juan. That was
a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
I like that one pause Speedy, Juan's Alice one. Yeah,
I thought that was.

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
Juan Bomb.

Speaker 9 (01:21:40):
Or Juan to Bomb.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
I guess that one, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Je Talamela, my old boss calls me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Come on, I thought was gonna get him.

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
He loves one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
It's like a dream coming through to see I feel
like I get all these.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Yeah, if you don't want someone's talking, Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Mcnighte to you have to can I can I really
hurt you with this one? Gary made that joke. I'm
telling you it's super difficult. Put the Wan jokes in
the comments. I'll accept them there. Other than that, do
not come on my show and try to come on
me with some bullshit anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Thank everybody for tuning into another.

Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
Elis educated them.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
In May I'm your host with the most wander Bread.
This is the BMF champion r e G. This justin
Justin And of course we got Melly mel I forgot
your nickname already. Thank you everybody, Love bye,