TAKE 21 : UFC 315 breakdown!

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome everybody to another episode of Uneducated mm A. I'm
your host with the most wonder bread Glad to bring
you another episode and us always I'm joined by the
Beat and met Champion the world Horg. And I just
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(00:38):
a mile, y'all. Oh yeah, happy, happy single, Happy sincro.
You don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
We are recording this on Sinkle to MYO. This episode
will come out sometime this week, but Sile the mile today.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Everybody take a shot. Yeah, we celebated. Let's get it,
let's get let's start it off. I want to write
a just because I had to get a correction.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Single de Mayo is an annual celebration held on May
fifth to celebrate Mexico's victory over the Second French Empire
the Battle of Boebla in eighteen sixty two, led by
General Ignacio. Ignacio is a great name. We talked Ignasia
about Amundez.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
You'll see talked about that Ignacio. Crazy name. Now this one,
I might need to take another shot for Ignacio Zadagoza.
Oh maamn, yeah name that that's a fire name.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
But yeah, for all you people that thought it was
like what is an Independence Day.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I thought that it was that for a long time,
pretty much for my whole life. I was just I
do you know what it was? I think it was.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I think it was last year when I got my
third ever heat checked champion that it was on. It
was on Sia to Mayo. I believe that we did
that episode where that's where I found out that it
wasn't Independence Day. You know, I may or may not
have been part of the reason that the rules have
changed since then. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
You gotta I mean, you gotta figure out, Like after
a while you're like, oh, he does him near the holidays?

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Looking up what holiday it is? You know what I mean?
You find out some facts right when you look it up,
it'll be right there. You think, like the French hate single,
the my I don't know, man, I feel like it's
the same thing. Like you still they always getting washed
every every independence say, there's gotta be someone hating. If
you think about it, you know they did. The UK

(02:23):
has like forty of them that they just out there
every other day. Hate like almost conquered everything. Yeah, almost.
In a different world, we'd all be speaking that crazy
crazy they did. It was in England. It's like a multiverse,
you know. I mean, like like Marble, you go into
another Yeah, a different one, Yeah, different one. I feel

(02:51):
like if I stayed in d R, it'd be a
more peaceful life. I feel like I would have been
such a good kid. It depends what part of the R.
I don't know. I feel like where I where where
my family's from. I feelt we'd be chilling, you know
what I mean. I wonder what I would be doing.
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
No, then bo would I think that that's that would be? Yeah,
I feel like that's would be. You would still find it,
but it would be through that.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Although that was like yeah, I feel like them them would.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
But it's not the same way where you like Wayne's ship,
I'm trying to be there.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
You don't think you'd be about that wouldn't be your calling.
That's in good spirit. You're like, you ain't talking about
ud G the one with the way down the street,
but that's a good spirit. It's like, oh, ask good people.
You know what I'm saying. But I don't know. People
still listen to Wayne out there, probably just not as much.
Wayne everywhere, just like Snoop Dog.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You could really have aspired to them move to the
States because you wanted to be like low Wayne, the
first Dominican in like Louisiana, representing.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
That Puerto Ricans out there too. Is it really we
were out there New Orleans, you know one. That's what
they keep on saying, Kevin Gates. I think it's like
half half ken gage from them. Anyway, we're here to
talk about UFC three fifteen. Let's break it up. No
small talk, no small talk. Anyway, We're here to talk
about UFC three fifteen. Ballah Mohammad versus Jack Della Madalena.

(04:11):
That's another one.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Try that one, j DM is why they abbreviate that
one because that one's hard to say at the broadcasting table.
Doesn't really it is a love JDM insurance.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I like it. I'm excited for this one. This one
is gonna be a good one. I know a lot
of people you know, forget the name, but you better
remember the name. Blahammed the champ is here, bro every time, Man,
every time, we gotta make that joke, man every time.
I'm not gonna lie to you you on that one.
No facts, Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
That was like a news thing that hit the MMA.
It hit like MMA everywherehere. They're just like, oh yeah,
they let him add the flag bag. When do mean
let him at the flag?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Bay? Let him at the flag? Yeah? No not you're
from Chicago, right, He's like, He's like, but I wrapped.
He's like, you don't wrap Chicago right? Yeah? Chicago right?
You have the state flag on there. The first person
will let me call security again. Video gets me every time,
every time. Bro, how could you be the champs not

(05:05):
get through security? Do you think, like, be the champ
you should?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Like I feel like if you're the champ, you gotta
I mean, to be fair, there's gonna be other people
with them. But I feel like, if you're the champ,
you pull up with your belt, right, you gotta it's
your it's you. It's like your your it's your security badge.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
You know what I mean. You're like, no, it's me,
you know what I mean? Like this is me. Security
would have been like where'd you get that belt? You
know what I'm saying? Casual? Where? Well, That's what I'm saying. Like,
I mean, you're sitting usually in like a spot with
a lot of other fighters. There are other people that
are also in there that are like celebrities or whatever.
It might be people with bread, but like at the
same time, like.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
If you see a squad of fighters and one of
them got a belt and maybe the other one got
a belt, there's like two or three that with a belt,
You're like, these are probably champions and other divisions, right.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I was gonna say, do you think since even though
they're not fighting that day, like they still get paid
to show up or they have to like pay to
no sit there, or they don't even have to pay
to sit there. They just are the only ones.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
The only ones that that, like you would be paid
to sit there. And I think it's like, I mean,
it's a weird job because there's a chance, but it's
the ones that sign up to be the backup fighter
that don't end up fighting they technically get paid to
be there.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Or it's like you also want to like promote yourself
in case like and be like no, I want to
talk to smack and like you know, promote and be
like nah, yeah that was trash. Yeah you know how
the no, for sure, they might show ice man, like
those are always funny when they show to the crowd
and one of them clearly is not ready. Yeah, you're good,

(06:33):
You're good.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, there's a I feel like they got to give
him a couple of tickets, you know what I mean,
you have even a couple of tickets, have them in
the crowd that way. Like after like a champion either
wins or loses, the other guy comes into the octagon
and gets that face off. Sometimes they don't end well,
like the Law when they try to get him in.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
It just didn't feel right. I don't think he's that guy. Yeah,
I don't think he's that guy. Honestly.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know, he's got to be He's got to be
like a more friendly dude. I feel like he just
got to be like, can't wait for this fight.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
It's gonna be great, you know what I mean, and
let his uh performance speak for him. Put that security
guard in like a sleeperholder time. Oh you don't know,
I mean, okay, I'll show you what do you mean?
Sleeperhold Canelo hands? Now, that's what he's about. He's about
those Canelo hands. That's the thing. Like sometimes like don't
speaking about Canelo though, since we dropped it. Yep, you know, Dana,

(07:19):
uncle Dana. He wants to help USA promote that. I
think that. I think that now you can clearly see
that he wants to get into boxing heavy. I don't
know when they're gonna officially come out with their own
promotion or if they're going to or like how that's
going to look, but striking, I feel like he's already
making enough with the bag with UFC, and he's like,
all right, I can already control this well enough. I

(07:40):
see they're making bread over here, even though it's not
as entertaining with these last boxing fights, we're not as entertaining.
But Hani, the Ryan Garcia, even the Canelo fight, the
dude Canelo was fighting, he was running all the whole
run around the entire time.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Bro. I watched the replaycause I didn't get to watch it.
I watched it the next day, and even the replay
that was shortened like.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
It was so did you see the video where it
was like the replay of like the highlights, but it
was like sped up and it was insane how much
of it was just him just running backwards, just.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Like Yeah, Canelo was literally pacing and walking towards him
the entire fight. I love that he's always moving forward,
always moving forward, like he did his part, but the
other dude just kept running around but still got the
bag to run around, but not to win the fight. Bro,
that's crazy. I feel like I was fighting Canelo. I'll
do the same. But that's not what I want to
watch as.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
A you know, and you know that a guy to
be putting that money up Turkey, Yeah, yeah, he put
man money up just to make no bread off that really,
just to see them fighting Middle Times square.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
For Yeah, they still pulled up in the batmobile though.
That was probably the coolest thing out of everything. And
then on top of that, Bro, that fight wasn't even
all that.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's the thing is, yo, I thought we could get
like great fighters out here, like great show out in public,
and then you know how you mess it up, bro,
pull out some boring.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
As I think it just comes down to the fighter
and I really wanted to be in that fight, or
just knowing that they're just gonna get paid either way,
and they're just like, why would I get knocked out?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
And I know I'm gona get this bag. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Sometimes do you think that that's kind of like a
problem that comes to like these guys getting these crazy checks,
these crazy bags that they're not performing as they should.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, because it's like they're not fighting for I don't know,
like I don't know if it's like you know, pretty
much like how Islam was saying when he was talking
about the BMF belt, He's like that be AMF belt,
Like I don't really care about that belt. That belt's nothing.
He wants the championship, but he wants legacy. They're fighting
for legacy, which is different compared to I'm getting the check.

(09:39):
If I already got the check, why I gotta perform
as high I already got the check. That is true.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Speaking of the BMF belt, they're looking to get rid
of the be am F belt after this, so I
think it's time. I think it's It's one of those
things we always get that brought up into our conversations,
and I would say most of the time we have
this thing of wi fi for it. When you think
about it, our conversations always kind of lean for like
who's gonna take it?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
But like why you're gonna throw it in? Like who's
gonna why? You know what I mean? It always comes
back to like why.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I think it just makes things confusing, I think as
cool as it was for the time, it was.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, yeah, it belongs, yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
So then you gotta fly out to Louisiana for that fight,
and you got to stand in the crowd, and when
they win, you got to challenge the winner.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
So that way you can walk away with it. Who's
who's the next who fight for the.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Dustin Poorier Max allway, that's going to be the last
no no, no, that's announced, and that's gonna supposed to
be the last b AMF belt. But it is officially
Dustin Porie's retirement fight, which is gonna be really sad
and it's gonna be a hard That's gonna be one
that I'm just gonna be like, I don't I don't
know who I want to win, but I don't know
who I want to lose.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
And I just I don't feels like I'm getting old
when you're seeing like your favorite fighters or even NBA players,
like if when they say Lebron's retiring, I don't know
if that's happened either, but even Pourier or even uh,
I don't know, bro, it feels like we're all getting old.
All these we know that's the way, that's the way
it goes. Man.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
You follow the careers, you start seeing these guys get
older as you.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Do, and you know what you do.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Then you start paying attention to the new crop that
come in, and that's what you do. You just as
a fan, you just kind of pay attention to the
new guys and you see them come in, and you
start watching these prelimbs.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
You see the young ones on.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And you get into that because, like I feel like
a lot of the bigger names as we we've had
these conversations, even as like I've said, like watching it
as like a lot of people came in at the
same time around like COVID and the pandemic and whatnot.
A lot of those guys are already older then, you know,
most of the guys that we see now, so like
we are only a few years in and now we're

(11:45):
seeing a lot of them retire or be retired, I
should say.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
And it's just fighting, you know, it's only a few
years during prime time.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, after that, all the fighters that I grew up
fighting are definitely going now.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah. Watching ev Yeah I watched his whole career.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, a lot of those a lot of those guys
now are doing like boxing events and things like that,
or watching you don't want to see you don't see
the other ones go into like uh yeah, don't even
bring that name up right now.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
That broke my heart.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
When I was.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Lost. Uh nah, but it would be like that though.
But all right, So who would you say is the
new young face for UFC? Is it like Patty? Or
who would be like a new young face? We had this,
We had this conversation with kind of a couple of
episodes ago. We're talking like who's going to be like
the Superstar?

Speaker 2 (12:38):
And I feel like, well, that's that's a good group
right there. I was fighting Nerds is definitely a good
group right there. Yeah, I think that there's a few.
Patty's not a bad one, uh Patty, Patty?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah. Like the next UFC game, who do you who
would you see on the cover? I hope no one
that you like because that seems to be a curse
right now. Anybody that ends up on that cover ends
up losing real bad.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I I feel like there's a there's a couple of guys,
because here's the thing is that, like you have you
what do you consider like to be like the younger guys,
because I feel like anybody that's going on the cover
has to be somebody that's at least in like probably
like the thirties already, because they're probably already like a
big name has had a couple of fights in the UFC,
true that kind of thing. I feel like Elio is
probably gona be somebody's gonna end up on the I

(13:20):
can see I guess on the cover OSCA year year
he's not.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
I feel like he's like put him on the cover,
that's the safe when that falls off, but put him
on the back of the game. Like going over this
past weekend, somebody who was on who's younger that we are?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Not we?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I would say a lot of people thought it was
going to be the face of the UFC in a
couple of years is going to be bow Nickel, And
we just saw him get.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Quote having a that was definitely that was crazy crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I feel like with bow Nickel, he has a lot
of hype on his name, but you have to understand
the people that who were fighting weren't like big name people,
so like.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
They were just like whatever. It's like, not in the
the sense that they weren't anybody good.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
They were professional fighters, but like, my dude wasn't doing
anything crazy, but he was just really like.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I don't know, he was I don't know if I'm
gonna be honest with you, had more submissions with that.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I haven't seen him do anything that was like spectacular, yeah,
or more so I would say like dominating.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
So for example, I'll give you like the guy who
he keeps chirping about, Hamza. Hamza was like I guess
kind of talked about when he pulled up, but nothing
too crazy, and he just had to murdering people. And
that's when it was like, you're God, like, what is
going on? So then with with Bo Nickel, it was
like a lot of talk about all this wrestling and
this and the third but he just kept striking. He
just kept fighting. He didn't use his wrestling to his advantage.

(14:44):
He did when it was like the the what is
it the not the Ultimate Fighter? What is it? The Yeah,
the Contender series. When he was in the Contender Series,
he was doing really well with that stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
But I will say like once he started to getting
too the UFC, he got comfortable clipping one or two
people and he decided to into that.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
He had like a submission. But like other than that,
I don't know. I just feel like I never put
I never saw the thing that was like this guy
right here, this guy right here is There was a
couple There was a couple of fights when I was like,
damn Brian.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I remember Brian Battle was somebody that I think is
on the younger side.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
The fight before that was supposed to be like a
dub kind of struggle.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
A little bit. Yeah, let's let's let's put about Nickels
card because I feel like, not the fight before, but
the fight before that one. Bonnicchle did good well, which
was his last knockout fights. He's gotten a couple of
like early finishes.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
So the last one he did was Paul Craig and
he got tested pretty bad in that one.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I would say that that's the one that that you
were talking about. And then before that he submitted Cody
Brundage in round tis Yeah, all right, what about before
that one? Was there a knockout that he did before
that one? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
So there was the one that he did against what
was his name, Val would Burn, I think it was
this guy's name something like that, and he like knocked
him out, like I think round one.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
It was like quick and everybody was like, oh, listen,
I think that's what we got, Like all the hype
on him, Yeah, let me see, let me see I got. Yeah,
he knocked out val Woodburn in thirty eight seconds in
round one at UFC two ninety. Yeah he has show that. Yeh.
That was in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I mean listen, it was that this is his first
loss ever, so like you got to put respect on
that submission Ko, submission, the decision and then KO.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean, I don't Yeah, I don't know what happened
with that.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I feel like I feel like RDR we need to ritter, uh,
just kind of like handled him. I feel like there
wasn't any moment where I was watching the.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Fight where I was like, oh, Bo Nichols, like you
know in this and then the tides kind of turned.
It was like, no, he was just kind of on
his ass the whole time. Bus get it in there, wait,
just because I don't know, I'd be hearing production test
staff over there in the background saying stuff here and there,
so I gotta be careful. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I feel like with Bo, I think it's just one
of those things where he found somebody that is of note,
somebody who's a higher caliber fighter than what he's used
to fighting. And it is one of those things where
you can you can say the term fraud check. I
don't know if I'd say that, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
For me. It's just more a lot of hype on them,
that's all, dude. It's just things like you got a
lot of hype.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
And then also like if you're known to be this
big whatever in whatever field of combat, do that thing, Like,
if you're that good at it, do the thing. If
you're that good of a wrestler wrestle, if you're that
good of a striker, strike.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's your whole life practice in this. But but then again,
it's like you don't want to not only not not
be known for that. It's good to be known for that,
but you don't want to have the other fighter assume
you're gonna do that. Like right now, if you're that
if you're that good at it, it's the game of
you try to stop me. It's the same thing right
now below, Bro, you hear that, you hear Maga met

(17:50):
off or something like.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
That on the T I don't like to hear that,
Henelo Hands's like, Bro, you don't have hands's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Did you watch the Fright? Did you watch the fight
with Sean Brady? Did you watch the Sean Brady fight.
Go back and watch the Sean Brady fight.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
He got hands.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
You can't tell me he doesn't get hands. I don't
know about Canelo hands. I don't know about hands, but I.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Didn't think it was that good. But I wants here.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
But what I'm saying is just like stop just like
trying to prove the public, Like, stop trying to prove
everybody that you can do.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
It, and just do what you're good at.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Like I guess it's also a part of the game
of Like we always talk about entertainment versus like ranking,
but you.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Also want to want I want to see entertainment. Yeah,
Like I understand, like try to try to show your
hands if you want to show your hands. But you know,
he's good with the wrestling and he's good with the grappling.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
But we're not going to sit here and act like
he's dumping people on their heads like he did what
he did with Leon Edwards.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I will say that, ask her.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
But for the most part, I really haven't seen him
like That's why I think people think he's like boring
because I haven't really seen him do anything too crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
And also like ground isn't really anything crazy there. If
you're in any danger trying to be Canelo, go back
to what you're it'll come back instantly. Win at the
end of the day. Win.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Whatever it is is whin I mean, I don't know,
man as fans, it's kind of boring though, No.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I love it. Yeah, I wouldn't. If you're in there,
it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be though,
like you can. Here's my thing.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
We've seen plenty of wrestlers take someone down, get into
half guard and just beat the ship out of somebody exactly, elbows,
knees like they're throwing opportunity.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
If you're doing something sometimes. But that's what I'm saying,
like do something exactly. He doesn't.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I think where he focused on was like the striking
because he needed it to be fair.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
You need that to just in case you get caught up.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
But I will say, like, I don't know, it's weird
because he is getting better on the feet, so at
the same time I want to see that progression, but
also on the other the other side of the coin.
I want to see him focus on what he's good
at and win. Because here's my thing, JDM.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
JDM hits hard, JDM is good, he's good on the feet,
he's good at striking. I would say overall, I would say, like,
so he should. No, I think he should. He should.
I think it should be a scrap for multiple reasons.
I always want to see a scrap. I think I
think he can knock him out. I think I think
I think below can knock him out. B I think
it's just good for his image. Because here's my thing.

(20:21):
I think slowly people are starting to turn into blall fans.
I think that there's still this like thing of like
enjoying the hate on him. Slowly, for sure, I think
there's people enjoying the hate on him. But like, come on,
you can't. You can't.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
You can't hate on the record, you can't hate on
the list of names he's beat. It makes you feel
uncomfortable when he's just like who is GSP fought and
look who I fought? Me and him are right there.
That makes you a little uncomfortable here. But other than that,
like he's doing pretty good. He is he is I'd
say he's killing it. I think he got j DM.
I don't know about you guys, but I feel like you.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Got JDM product. Like he they were like one camp,
that's all you need. Superhuman. Yeah, you know, I think
I think that's what happened. I think it's the sun. Yeah,
two three years, one phone call.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I think it's a mixed champion. I think it's the
skill that the skills that he learned. But then also
I think it's the discipline that's something that I think
that that's what puts them above other people. Is that, Like,
that's why I say whenever we talk about like, oh
it's a Dagastani fighter or something like that's like whoha,
who are they from Dakistan?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
And then specifically they camp because those dudes are doing
something different because you can be from the same area,
but you're not from the same camp. And I feel
like there's like a level of like dedication and sacrifice
that they put into like their craft, that that's why
they're as good as they are and as dominant as
they are.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
But they also go in and they're entertaining. Anybody that
comes out of there is entertaining. They're very dominant, they'll
they'll go for the finish. They don't want to be
there long.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I love, I love to take that defense. You just
stuffed one. Someone just tries to get you. Nah, relentless
like balance. Yeah yeah, speaking though about submissions, uh, the
prelims card, that one submission was His name was Lee Lee.

(22:16):
Look at which one are you talking about? You're talking
about last weekend just passed right right now, the one
that just passed right now, let's set. His submission was crazy.
The dude went, he hit him with trying to hit
him with the kick, grabbed his foot. There was a
lot of fights pretty much on that card. Everyone like
pretty much grabbed a leg. Same thing with figuretrog. Yeah,

(22:37):
submission nasty, bro. I don't know if y'all peep that submission.
I do not on the highlight ro but that submission
was a nasty one. He caught him early, He got
his leg, took him down and choked him out. He
was telling the ref he's like, he's out, he's out there.
He put him. If he's telling the ref, he's out, bro. Yeah,
he put this boy.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
You see ye, it goes up for those of those
of you listening right now, obviously you can't even see
the video either, but this this guy, you can tell
he just gets hunched over there. He is, he's asleep.
Quang Lee Quang Yeah, no, put him to sleep, what
you mean? Yeah, yeah, he put him asleep. Yeah, that

(23:20):
was That was a good one. That one, and also
that I want to also give a shout out to
like the chick fight the girl all Read. It was
a couple of fights right after that one. Get these
names down.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
I have to get them. We take the shots. If
you don't know the names. I had the card pulled up,
but she was dripped out and all read, ripped out
in all she was her whole hair was all red,
and then her fit was red. And then she put
the girl, Oh, Julane Robertson. You know she's she put
the other girl up against up against the case, and
you gotta watch her.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
She's somebody that's gonna fight for the title very soon.
She has been on a hair recently, Dean Thomas.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
And she is doing very well.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Somebody that goes in there, she's going for the She's
going for the finish too. She's not just like these
I'm going for the decision trying to get that win.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
No, no, no, she is killing. That was also the second
round is the show? Yeah it is? And then she
she called it too beforehand she said that she's gonna
probably she wants to go for a submission, but she's
probably gonna end up getting a second round. She put
her at the edge of the octic on the cage
and just started pie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Unfortunately that was she She ended up beating Marina Hardriguez
and that was her last fight in the UFC. So
shout out to her for fighting in the UFC for
the as long as she did. She gave us a
lot of good fights. She had hands. I feel like,
if you want to see some entertaining fights her, I
would say most of her fights that she's been it
has been entertaining. She's a dog. She goes out on
her shield. I don't think I've ever seen her really
like give up. She's usually one that like she has

(24:42):
her losses, but if she's losing, she's in like some
sort of gun fight, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
So I shout out to her. And I love when
people retire in a way that they are like proud
of their career rather than just getting retired and getting
out like mad. Her post fight speech.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Was really like she was happy Anthony Smith for another retiree.
I feel like we should have that like thing where
it goes black and white showed him the video clip
at the end. So I was at home watching the
watching the fights. But then I had like left the
room for a little bit and I missed the whole
like package.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
So I still got to go and watch that.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
But I was told that it now everybody it was
everybody said that it was like when I say everybody,
I mean like obviously Twitter whatnot.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
They were saying that it was like a lot for
Anthony Smith, Like they were like, listen, we understand he's
been here for a minute, but that like champions have retired,
that didn't get that much love. Yeah, I don't know,
I don't remember think something for Steepe. I don't know,
not like that, not like that right, not like that now.
But then again with it within that fight, I'm pretty

(25:45):
sure it was within that fight. Like once once you're
like your mouthguard goes out, it's a wrap. If that
happened within the Anthony Smith fight, I think someone's mouthpiece
went flying.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, I mean usually just that's a bad indicator you're
not really like holding up your head really well or
clenching your jaw trying to make sure you're not getting
smacked around. I'd say so all right, so h my
pick is for bal Muhammad against JDM. I think that
Belaw is probably gonna take it. I'm gonna go with
like a round three t Ko. I don't know about
a flush ko, but I see Tako. I just think
that these boys are gonna dog it out. I feel
like there's gonna be like a bit of a scrap.

(26:17):
I could see some grappling exchanges getting in the clinch,
but I see like Ballav really trying to make a
statement and trying to get that finished because like at
the end of the day, I understand that he's already
the champion and to think.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Of like maintaining it.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
But also, you want those pay per view numbers. You
want people to tune in. You don't want your your
name to be thrown on people. You gotta win the people,
and like you don't want to end up in a
situation where like you're again the nickname just sucks, because.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
You don't want to be forgotten either, you know what
I mean. Like, here's my thing.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
You can be a champion, but it's rare that you
retire a champion. So you can have a situation where
like Blaw does have a good reign, he can have
five to six title defenses or something like that under
his belt, but he ends up losing or something like that,
retires along the way.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
But people forget because it wasn't anything exciting.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
But then when you go back, you dig through the
crates and you look at the stats, you're like, oh,
this dude was actually killing it. But you know what
I mean, it wasn't anything that was too exciting where
you don't remember the name, where he's.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Like knocking dudes out or right like, he's not an Israel.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
A lot of sign here who like right now is
not the champion, But you're still going to be excited
to watch his fights because you know they're going to
be exciting, you know what I'm saying. No, I would
still say most people would tune in and watch an
easy fight any day.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
They would, but lately yeah, anyway, moving on, Valentine Parlay
is Izzy Parlay. I know somebody in cash he's crazy.
Moving on, we got Valentino chef Chenko versus Manan Fierro
for the flyweight championship.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
This one is one that's been one in the waitings.
I would say, not really for Valentino ship Tchenko. I
don't think as many people are how do I word this?
People are used to her being the champion, so I
think that this is one where they're like, I bet, yeah,
she's fighting again.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Cool, you know what I mean? Like there's not really
a whole lot of buzz with her.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
But whereas like Manona, if you've been watching, like I
feel like she's one that you've been waiting for her
to a title shot. She's beating the names she needed
to beat, she's been doing her thing, and now she
finally gets her shot. So I'm excited to see this one.
I think that Valentina has an interesting spot to be in.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
She's older, not in the since she's old, she's.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Still very sharp in her game, but I feel like
she's got to make a statement of like, no, I'm
still with this, you know what I mean, Like she's
able to snag the title back from Alexa Grosso, but
it's time for her to show that like I'm still
dominating as a champion. You want her to be on
that like a man of newness type level where it's like, oh,
who's getting fed.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
To Valentina this time? Like you know what I mean,
like that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
So I think she's looking to put somebody in a
body bag so she can really prove a statement.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
So we'll see. Manona has what it takes.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I feel like she has a lot of skills and
she's got the grit to be able to like standing
there with a dogfight with Valentina. But I think Valentina
is gonna be too much in too many areas for her.
Like let's say Valentina feels danger and striking boom, hitting
with the grappling, we're going for takedowns and sweeping the
legs something like that. So I don't know, I feel
like I got Valentina in this one.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
What do you guess thing? Oh yeah, Valentine, Yeah, I'll
give it to it off just off the fact that like, yeah, yeah,
she was so she she wanted that belt so bad,
she felt like she got robbed.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It was the whole thing where she was like, I'm
not fighting anywhere where there's oh I don't want to
say this too crazy, but she basically like in my opinion,
she was like, I don't want to fight anywhere where
there's too many heavy on the Mexican if I'm fighting
a Mexican fighter, because I feel like it's gonna get
swayed in the other way around.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Because that's what she felt when she fighted Likexa Grosso
and the draw went to the other way, she felt
like she got played. So she was like, why don't
we go fight? We go fight my neck of the woods.
I was like, I don't like this kind of conversation
coming from you, Valentino. Why don't we Why don't we
cut back on that one? I want my own judge. Yeah.
It kind of be like that when it comes to
like wherever the location, well, yeah, like at the end

(29:49):
of the day, would you rather fight a judge or
fight the cartel? Like, well, well the big las So
even with.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
She's saying something like that about being in like like Phoenix, Arizona,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Say of the crowd is very biased, like it's gonna
it's they have an advantage. Just it's like we fought
if I thought a Russian.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
When you fought you mean in your previous professional fight,
if when when I fought.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Back of my bare knuckle days dr.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, and it was like some Russian or German you
know what I'm saying random like that. Of course, the
people going to be on my side mostly I'm gonna
get the advantage.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Off the energy. You still won that fight though I
was there, but it was really most of the energy.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
If I exactly from the crowd, I would have been
exactly saying, uh, yeah, Dominican power. Valentina knows y against
her that mongol yea, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Valentina might lose against that energy. I can see that too.
I feel like there's an area means like our crowd
makes a huge difference.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I mean they're in Montreal, Canada. They the mad French
over there. That's French, big French French, you know, or
not French, I would say. The Canadians, you know, they're
happy for anybody who's fighting.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
No, but this is this is French territory. This is
this is they speak, they speak French, they speak French. Yeah, yeah,
I think that this is going to be an interesting test. Man.
I don't know, there's been this like breath of fresh air.
I'm gonna say it. With all this like new like

(31:32):
like crowd of fighters that have been taken over. I
feel like this is another step where we may see
Valentino just gonna show out of us. Yeah, exactly, we're
seeing who's really going to stand up. I mean we were.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Talking about it earlier, Like you said, it's like weird
to see, like you feel like you're getting older. You
see these people retiring, but like you see also these
fighters are like, man, they're at the top level of
their game.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
But like it's just hard to compete with age. It's
just really hard. Like you see even the youngest one
in the UFCIT. Yeah, I can't even do it, bros.
Last fight, Like it was tough to watch this fight. Bro,
it was his body gainst submission. I mean, it's a
weird thing.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
That's why they say that like that, like thirty thirty one,
thirty two is like a like a sweet spot that's
like the prime of this of this game specifically, because
it's like you have the most experience, you're at your
athletic prime, this that and the third so like you
should be the best at this point. As you get
into like the thirty five and why now, that's when
you start hearing the stats of like not really wanting

(32:33):
titles as much your like body turns declining.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Whatever exactly, because your body can only take so much
once you start taking injuries, like right now we'll speak
on like for example, uh figuredo, yep, with that knee injury,
that was a little different that one was. I'm saying
you think that was a purpose that was that was
not like a he's just old thing. No, I'm not
saying that he's just old, but even just injuries alone,

(32:58):
Like I'm saying, your body can only take so much.
When you're younger, I feel like you can heal a
lot quicker. I don't know what it is, but yeah,
as you're older within the sport already aching and then
on top of that getting a knee injury, do you
feel like he would be fighting again or do you
feel like he's gonna be like have this injury? You
know what? That's it for me, I'm just gonna rest for.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Steroids, just saying I mean, but that's the thing though,
is that like if you go to that route, which
you technically can, he just has to be out of
the testing pool for a while. So then you also
got to talk about adding more time away besides just
the healing process.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
I guess it depending depending on what the el uh
it might.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
It might dependent on doctor he good, It might depend
on what it is that your your healing time looks
like it might be more beneficial for you to be like,
all right, let me get out of the testing pool,
go do some some crazy over there and then get
better and get back to it.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I feel like with him, he's on the older side,
So I feel like I just think that title shot
might be gone.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I think that you know what they should do. They
should get rid of the b MF and have just
a steroid division. We keep talking about that should be
a steroid. You'll probably you'll probably roin them up. Bro.
We want to see the best fighters against with the

(34:20):
best you know, drugs that science can make, fight against
each other.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Bro, I think you'll see another another like a vision
or something like that. You'll see exactly, You'll see another
like organization pop up that will start doing something like that.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I mean, you got you got like the dirty boxing,
you got the bare knuckles. I could see another organization
pop up and it's like, no, we don't.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Test test for what for who?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, make sure that they don't know what their name is,
and that they could break down their name on a contract.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
That's it, That's all we care about. I got a
stamp that works, that works. I'll take it squat pulling up,
just ye it up, just like I'm riddy. Yeah, run
it all right. So after that we got Jose Aldo
and I'man's hobby. Crazy. Why is he still fighting? Crazy?

(35:11):
Why that's the same thing he retired? No, didn't have
this conversation twice already. Yeah, I don't know. Man Smith
had his whole thing, although had his thing too. He
doesn't get another one. He doesn't. He doesn't get another one.
He can just use this one he decides to. At
this point, I just want all right, here's me hear
me on, hear me up. I would go as far

(35:32):
as to say he doesn't get to put the gloves
down again.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, if you're going to retire, it's a post on
Instagram because you can't you you can't double dip.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, disappear he does.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
There's a meme that's used all the time of him
crying getting inducted in the Hall of Fame, like running
and jumping so excited.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
You can't retire again. You don't get another one the
full he has to go Hall of Fame and PFL.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I don't know something else. That's why we had I
remember this conversation. I remember bringing up the point that
they should do it where it's like you have to
be like four or five years removed and then you
get inducted.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, you can't be four weeks removed sports. Yeah, right away.
But that's what he did. They threw him in the
right away, and then immediately he came back. I feel
like he went did like it felt like two or
three boxing matches outside of the UFC, and then it
came immediately back to.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
What do you mean she got inducted? But she's been
gone now, I think over a year and a half.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
But her I would be okay with see him back.
It was only a year and a half that she's
been gone.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah ready, yeah she retired and yeah she got well
she hasn't been fully inducted. Well I guess, yeah, they
announced that she's going to be inducted.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I should say that's the way I should worry it
to be real specific, but I'd rather see her. I
would rather see her FA one more time, at least,
I mean at least three years.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
I feel like three years makes sense because then you
can go do something else and then you maybe you
get the itch and it gives you enough time to
get a camp to come back.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Year three years after one year. Well that's my thing.
Is also like what happened to you? Try? But you
need the bread, Yeah, exactly, you need the bread. You
need to come back.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
You need a contract codena uncle Dana hit me up,
me know, yeah, it's good un money over there. I
feel like I feel like real quick they'll come back.
But that's what I'm saying. To give him like three
four years removed and then you can induct whoever you
would like into the UFC Hall of Fame and then
you know, if they decide to come back after that,
put him in the Roid league.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I don't know, we'll figure out. Let's get check with
Dell off the ya yes yea.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Steroards back in there, like we'll get like toy belfour,
get him back on the steroids.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Well, then I guess Connor could come back again. As
as what I mean, like, this is the chance we
get Connor back a recent recent who else was he
gonna fight? What is his name? Put him up in
there too. No, No, not Chandler dude who just got
inked out? How am I forgetting his name right? And
hooker hooker hook hooker is another one. I think you
imagine he fights, So what do we think he fights

(38:12):
at one fifty five? What do you fight eighty five?
On Royds? I think so because he was you gotta
think about it.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I'm going with what you walk around at you probably
add like muscle to that. So if you're if you're
at one fifty five, I feel like most of them
walk around around like one seventy to maybe even one eighty,
depending on who you are.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Did you guys see the The Rogan podcast with him
and Tuporia when they were talking about like the weight class,
like you just get rid of that? What are your
thoughts on that? I like the idea.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I think it makes sense because, like I feel like
weight cutting does kind of mess with you. And I
also think it's weird that like, for example, like we
can be like, all right, bet we're gonna fight at
two hundred pounds or something like that, and we were like,
I bet sign off on that. On that day we
have to weigh in. We both weigh in at two
hundred pounds. The next day we walk it into the
cage to fight. I'm too twenty you're two forty five

(39:02):
or vice versa, whatever it might be.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
And you know, I don't know, yeah, but yeah it'd
be it'd be some ship like that was.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
It's unfair. Like you look at an Alex Perera. You
look at the DDP, like these guys that you're like,
You're like, bro, they're the way you're one eighty five.
And then they step into the cage. You're like, yo,
you wait him this morning, brother, that dude is two thirty. Yeah,
that guy's two twenty five.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
A time frame between like the way in between the fight,
isn't it. It's like twenty it's twenty four hours. No,
the way in the fight, it's like twenty four hours. Bro,
they win. So they waited. They they weigh in on
Friday and they find on Saturday. That's crazy. That's Guy's
what I'm saying. Crazy because you cut so much for
the way in. That's army in a week. That's why
Ilio way, Yeah, that's why Ilium moved up. That same

(39:46):
reason is why he moved up. You're so unhealthy, it's
just tough. Yeah, you do a lot man, Yeah, organs
might fail. You see people collapse exactly. How many times
have you seen someone look like a skeleton up there? Yeah?
Need that mango? Yeah you have to one what is it?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
One forty five Connor that was a scary looking guy
discussed that's a bag of bones.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Disgusted. That's not good. That's why I think that I'm
cool with them getting rid of the weight classes. Yeah,
I'm cool with them.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Like now where obviously don't Here's my thing, it's it's
not then you have somebody that's one hundred and twenty pounds,
find somebody that's.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Still to be like certain weights, but not weight cutting
because then it's also Joe Rogan on that same episode
throughout the thing, and he said this multiple times of
having like more weight classes.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
I only think that that's a little weird. You have
to then fill those rosters and then you would five.
Are you gonna have more belts?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Are you gonna have people be multiple champions and multiple divisions?
What's the like, what's the weight that you wouldn't want
to fight someone over ten pounds? I feel like that
makes sense because you got to think about it this way.
It's ten pounds five difference, jump to one seventy, jump
to one eighty five. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a lot
of belts in boxing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's

(41:05):
a lot of different belts, different weight classes.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
How many people you're gonna have fighting a lot of people,
That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of fucking people.
Do you already have an issue with? Like superstars you
think you're gonna have, You're gonna just throw it out
thirty more people or will havever many more people. You're
gonna have to have these weight divisions and you think
they're gonna be a bigger star.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Now, No, you're gonna have You're gonna have nine hundred
people on a roster, and like you're gonna know seven names.
You already have the issue where you have these influx
of people that are like coming in from other countries
and maybe over there they're very well known, but here
they're not. So I feel like I don't really know
what you're gonna do with all that kind of stuff. Man.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I like the idea of having more weight divisions and
more weight classes, but at the same time, I feel
like you gotta structure it.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Maybe you add like two or three more keep it classes,
but not the weight cutting. But no, but that's the thing.
That's the class. The class is based off the weight.
What do you mean? But like if you know, instead
of cutting, you walk at exactly. But they he that's
what I'm saying. He said, get rid of give keep
the class, but get rid of the weight. But the
class is the weight. No, get rid of the weight cutting.

(42:08):
So basically, what if you comfortable walking around with make
sure you're that weight for that fight. But that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
But like you would then have to add more weight classes,
because that's what I'm That's what I'm trying to get
you to say. Like you have to look at like
one fifty five for example, like a Michael Chandler may
be like a like a big bulldog.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Or whatever it might be, when his like weight is
like you know whatever. But then you have to undertand
that the dudes that are like tall because him and
like Dan Hooker, for example, they're fighting the same weight division.
Dan Hooker is a much taller guy.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
He may when he's walking around be a lot bigger
than Michael Chandler might be in weight.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
So then you wouldn't have them.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Fighting now, you would have he would have Dan Hooker
fighting the one eighty five ers or whatever it would be.
When you have to look at the twenty five ers,
the one eighty five ers don't always walk around a
oney five is he was one eighty five Champ walked
around around like one highty five at very most.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Everybody everybody moves up is one five Champ.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
But he walks around at two and twenty plus pounds.
You're not having these guys fight anymore. And then again
look at the twenty You look at him, then you
gotta look at her fight. It just throws a wrench
in everything.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Heavyweight. No, it's just adding a lot more heavy It's
just adding exactly one or two more heavyweight belts and
then that's it.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I feel like it was just I think if anything,
you throw in like one or two more divisions in between,
like light heavy or lightweight and like heavyweight extra heavyweight
since it's USA.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, yeah, there should be a one large fry heavyweight. Yeah,
it should be like a one five something like that.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
You gotta think about it, like one eighty five to
two o five. I feel it is a big jump. Yeah,
it is you know, I have a lot of guys.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
All right, Alexa Grosso versus Natalia Silva's next up on
the dock. All right, So this was gonna be an
interesting one because now you've got Alexa Grosso who's fighting
earlier the Valentini ship. Chinkle. She's like, yo, that's that
was my belt. I want that back? How good? What
do you mean by that? Like just a good friend?
What do you mean by that? I've met her before?

(44:06):
Be a mess man, I guess, I guess. I guess
she's officially sponsored by educated MM for Alexa on this one.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
All right, Okay, he says it was such confidence. I
feel it's the first I've heard of it. It is
all guess we go with that one.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, this is this is an interesting one because she's
another one that is like I would say she's younger,
but getting into that older camp in terms of the fighters.
I feel weird speaking about, like, you know, people getting old.
I don't know, I feel rude. It's like they're like
thirty five, like the old mother, and it's like no, no,
it's cool because you can say it about guys, but
what you say a women's age and it's like it's
kind of how I feel right now. It's kind of

(44:42):
kind yeah this conversation, Yeah yeah, God ut of the
buck in case you meet her up No, but I
feel like so with with her right now. She's in
the same kind of camp.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Where I feel like it's like, should to get off
the pot, you know what I'm saying, Like, if she's
not if she's not going to be a dominant person
to be able to give you a reason to go
back for a title shot and get that belt back,
she may find herself in a position where she's about
to get beat by Natalia Silva again in the Young
Blood and then see if she ends up getting left
the wayside, we'll make a tap that's on God, We'll

(45:14):
see Natalia Silva. I don't know if you've been watching
her fights, but she's been she's been putting the myths
on people, and she's been doing work. So she's a very,
very hungry contender, and I feel like this might be
a big.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
I'm not saying she's a world beater. I'm not saying this.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
She's somebody that I think Alexa has everything in the
world that she has to be able to beat her.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
But it's one of those things she got to show
up that day. Yeah, well we might see that. We
may see that because you had a trilogy, right, yeah,
I don't like what I don't like? Why? Yeah? Yeah,
trilogy is enough, that's enough for sure. How does she
get her belt back?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
So then you would have Valentina win or either honestly,
with Valentina even know, it doesn't matter. Either one wins,
and then as long as Alexa, I feel like, has
a dominant enough win here, she has a title shot.
It's tricky again, we have the same conversation within uh
some weight classes and a lot of.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Like the women's divisions, you don't really got to do
a lot to get a title shot. I feel like
in some of the women's divisions, there's like four people
you gotta worry about, and as long as you're one
of the four win one fight and you're back in there,
you think.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Of course both of them win. Alexa wins, Valentino wins,
they'll do a fourth.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah why not? Yeah? I think so, I feel like
with most people, I mean, I'm looking at.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
It right now, and Alexa is the number one contender,
So she wins, she gets another title shot.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Why not? Like genu. There literally is no no.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Let's say that it's Alexa Monon, Aaron Blanchfield, Macy Barber,
and Italia Silva. So I can see if Alexa win,
she gets her title shot again. Monona is about a
fight for the title. Aaron Blanchfield is somebody who I
can definitely see getting a title shot soon. So like
she'd be in the same thing with Macy Barber. She's
also really good. Rose is what's going on? Figure it out,

(47:05):
get together everybody else in the way to class, get
into like an action movie and be a villain.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah. Is it a shaved head? Yeah? She leans towards
the villain. She's got a shaved head to tew. I
get that. And then I think, I don't know any
heroes with the shaves head. Usually there's the same for

(47:31):
like the bad guys.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Well, I guess, what would you consider a Vin Diesel
in the Fast franchise?

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Well again, is that one movie? Well, he's I guess
a bad hour hero. He goes against the law. That's
just big Dog. That's just big Dog. I got him
in the Rock too. And then to wrap up the wreath,
a lot of ball people.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
There's a lot of people but they're all like good
in the eyes of the way you watch the movie.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
But what you mean? What you mean? And then afore
the opener of the fight, I know we went main
card whatever. Uh, the opener of the fight Bess on.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
The knee versus Joel Alvarez technically up in the Alvarez.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Pronounce that everybody's name on Yo, I'm listening. I'm listening
to the way John Annik uh pronounces them, and I
copy and paste because if there's anybody that's gonna get
it right, it's that guy. So as long as you
hear him say it, I you copy paste. Uh.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
But yeah, so right now, Joel Alvarez is out of
the fight, So we don't know. I mean, this is
a couple of days away. Do we think that BSD
is getting a replacement opponent or do we think it's
just gonna kind of get thrown away.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
He's most like it's a hand injury too. So I
don't see this getting like rescheduled for a week or
two away. I think this is gonna be he's getting
rebooked mostly replacement. Yeah, but who would you consider him
to fight? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I mean I saw something earlier that Mateo Scamro was like, Yo,
I'll swing with you right now, and that immediately got
shut down.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
So I feel like, I.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Mean, dude, it's tricky because it's like it's it's a
few days. But at the same time, I feel like,
you want to take a fight because you want you
to keep your name up there, especially because he has
not had the best record as of right now, sitting
at number thirteen, but Lois Anthony, I mean, nobody above
him is gonna really try.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Joel Alvarez was ranked number fifteen.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
So that was the guy who he was supposed to fight,
unless Grant Dawson is up for the task and wants
to try to fight and taking his number thirteen spot.
I see him maybe fighting an unranked fighter who's just miscellaneous, because.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Because if I've been training and I'm ready to fight,
already beat him up. Yeah, Mokano, beat the breaks off
that boy. Money. That day you were saying, I'm like,
if I've been training and I'm ready to fight, yeah,
that day, Like, Yo, I've been training, I've been working

(49:49):
my butt off for this moment. This is a date
that I'm ready to fight. And my other person who
I'm training or I'm supposed to fight, has an injury,
I'm still gonna fight. Put whoever you want on that
day because I've been training. That's like you should do.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
But a lot of people, I mean, it's tricky when
you're in the top fifteen. I would say it depends
more when you're in the top ten, top five, top
ten for sure, top five for one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah, but you gotta be careful of.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Who you pick and choose because there's a chance you
could lose it again. BSD now to my knowledge, is lost.
I think too straight.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
So but then again, you haven't been trained hard enough, bro,
because exactly BMF nos. Like, Bro, whoever it is, I'm
training to win. I'm not training specifically to fight this opponent.
Watch his tapes of whoever you're about to fight, But
I'm training to win. Yeah. Yeah, it sucks the dude

(50:44):
got an injury, But fill somebody else in because I'm hungry.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
You gotta have that mentality, and I feel like you
gotta be secure enough in your skills and you're like, no,
I'm a fighter overall, Like it doesn't matter who it
is on fighter, I mean, looking more.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Kano stepped into fight Islam on a short notice. He's like,
we ball, Yeah, exactly, it don't matter, bro. If it's
within the weight class, it makes sense. Obviously you're gonna
throw someone crazy different weight class. Yeah, let me think
about it. Yeah, if it's within the weight class, I
don't care who it is. I'm a fighter. I'm here

(51:15):
to fight. I've been training.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, that's why I like like Islam's mentality of like,
I'm the best one fifty five on the planet. Any
one fifty five you put in front of me, I
will be exactly, doesn't matter. Granted, now you have the
stipulations of ilias now one fifty five.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
He's like, he's a one forty five fifty five? Who
well should I fight dun cownn count? But he said
he was out to fight him too. We'll see what happens.
We'll see. We'll see. That one is really interesting. It
makes it makes sense. I would want to see Toporio
fight Islam. It does. How do you feel how they
keep on doing Rookie?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I think he did it to himself. I think that
the UFC is very spiteful. I feel like if you don't,
if you don't make Uncle Dana happy, he will make
you very unhappy, very quickly. So the fact that Tarouki
decided to back out with the back injury and there's
all those videos of him doing roles and all that
kind of stuff. He's not the happiest with him right now.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
He like just to drop like that. But it's just like, bro,
I still want to the chance, and then you backing
down this chance they offered him, saying and he declined it. Yeah, yeah,
you want your title shot. You declined it, But then
again you declined us when we gave you the chance.
I will tell you this though, he's in a good
spot where he can either wait and get it or

(52:31):
he could fight. But he's gonna have to do probably one,
maybe two fights to get that now.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
If he fights, he just needs one, it doesn't matter,
it can be a whack performance. He just needs one
more win and he can get it again. No, because
I'm be honest with you, he's I think he's the
number one contender right now, so he just has to wait.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
It seems like like they're gonna try to get too
poor there. They're gonna give olivera something before.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Suki because that's where the entertainment comes in. You gotta
fill in the seats. I feel like they're definitely gonna
feeling more seats make more money if they were to do.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
And you know, well, that is an interesting point you
bring up because now with this past week and you
have the same thing with like Corey Sanderhagen who just
beat Figgie where he's like, put me in for a
title shot. But then you have Yan who also wants
a title shot, and Yan has beat Corey, but then
Corey has beat the people that he could be who
beat Yan, and Corey would be a more exciting fight

(53:27):
against either one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
So it's like, who do you give the title shot too?
Is which one will fill more seats at this at
their point, at that point, it would be who will
fill more seats breaking an entertainment exactly, such as in
the weird Thing to balance man. But like right now,
and I always like to bring it up. I know
you hate want to bring it up Jones and aspinall
that one has also been confirmed. That one is also

(53:52):
allegedly confirmed.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Did you see do you see UFC President and CEO
Dana White announced the fight the.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Day but I did see that it's not and that
was like he he did say to me.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
He did say that that is going to be the
unless behind him, and he's like, what's up everybody?

Speaker 1 (54:11):
You know, I don't want I didn't see that part,
but it doesn't count. I did see that. He said
that is going to be the next fight for Jones.
It is going to be even though Jones wants Carrera
or somebody else, Nah, he has to move up. It
is going to be. Uh. I'm not gonna lie. I
definitely believe it will happen.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
But if Alex won his last fight, I think that
there would have been a chance that you would have
seen Jones.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
And now Alex has to most likely do a rematch
or try to move on up alive was his last one,
I think it would be a rematch away, Yeah, for sure.
I think so. I probably gonna fight later on this year,
probably some time in like the fall. I don't know
if I want to see it again. But you know,

(54:55):
let that man get his goal back. He's deserved it.
He's done enough for the sport. Let him get his
goal back. He's done enough. Last minute, multiple time defendively.
Jones really wants to fight Perreira. He has to go through.
He doesn't really want to fight him.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
He wanted an easy bag that would have made him
a lot of money. But the issue is that because
Alex lost, it looks bad as like a record thing
and a legacy thing.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
So like at this point it's the whole belt thing.
I think fans casual uh to all the way to the
degree of like insane, deep head like whatever you want
to call him, like, they want the Tom fight. I
think most if Jones had retired a few months ago,

(55:38):
if he retired with nobody would nobody would exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Now that it's gotten in this thing of them going
back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Now, if he still wants it has to be still fighting.
That's what it is. Keep him waiting this long. Yeah,
that's Jones's game, Bro Jones b Well.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
I would say, if anything is, it's the UFC needs
to strip Jones of the title and just announce that
Tom is now the official undisputed champion.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Because he's already.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
It's weird to me that you defend an interim belt.
That's weird, so weird, that's really weird.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Especially the people that as like knocked out and and
be like nah, bro wile Jones was just chilling, sleeping
and then taking little fights here like you know, Cyril
gone and then Steve a what was that like a
year almost two years apart. Yeah, I mean he's playing
it smart, like we were saying, you're going to be
in that top five. He's the champ. You got to

(56:37):
play it real smart. But you could also be a
champione like, I'll fight anybody. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
With him, I think he's just trying to make sure
he preserves his legacy. So that way, it's like, you
don't you don't have a he was great, but you
know you don't want to hear that butt part.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
You don't want to just hear he was great, and
I think you hear it anyway. But if he gets
smoked by somebody as his last fight, you know, I
don't think it's a good way to go out him. Now. Yeah,
he should have if he wanted to leave as a
champ like that. Yeah, I think that that would have
been I think it was too quick. Nah, he would

(57:11):
have been.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
The fact he didn't fight in a while and then
he got that little taste and then it ended.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
It's like, damn, I want more. He would have been fine,
just like how this dude retired and everybody wanted him
to fight another one. Oh my goodness, undefeated, to be
could be? I don't know. I forgot could be, could be,
could do a couple He could have done like two

(57:36):
more fights, but after everything would happened with his pops,
he want to fight no more. He was like, nah,
that's it, I'm done. He literally could have done a
couple more fights and he would have been chilling, but
he left good timing. As Champ and Dustin Purrier said
it himself, he was like, yo, I want to leave,
not when people are telling me, like yo, I'm too

(57:58):
old to keep on fight. He wants to leave or
retire a couple of years before that.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, I mean, I just think it looks so much better. Man,
if you retire, like it's one of those things you
got to leave.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Them wanting more.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Like that's saying you gotta leave them wanting more. When
you retire and you look like you still got some
left in the tank, You're like good, like, right, I
don't know, man, you don't want to see yeah, right,
you don't want to everything.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
You just don't want to see someone just getting like washed.
For the last couple and I feel like you see
too many people go out that way.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I get it that that's like the name of the sport,
but like, if you're gonna do that, at least it's
like you're giving it. I guess in this situation the
way you would you just what might happen. You're passing
the torch to the younger guy. You know, it's a
tough way to pass the torch getting put to sleep.
But yeah, boy, yeah, before we before we go uh

(58:50):
to speak about passing the torch and getting put to sleep,
we got two fights that I want to just bring
up just to get the feels on it as early
predictions or whatever it might be.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
So we already touched upon one of them. That's the
Poier versus Max Holloway Destin Poye's retirement fight for the
mess Champion of the World. That one first and foremost.
I want to say, Dustin.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Poier, thank you, and I'll retire like you're happy retired.
Just please, yeah, make this one is going to be
I don't think anybody has anything bad to say both.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
He's gonna be retire rightway that I've been here. There's
a rumor going around that Max Holloway might retire, and
I don't know. I don't know how true that might be.
I feel like, now that he's at one fifty five,
like he's got fun fights that he wants to do
and he'll just get paid and he's still young. That's
it for me. I guess what's the age difference between
both of them, because both of them.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Is I think a few years older than him. I
think he's like four or five or four or five
years older than him, and I think the Max still
has I think a few.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
More years left. I think he's probably.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Gonna stick ad because you have to understand, he's only
been knocked out once. He has had like a couple
of awards, so he's got damage. I'm not gonna say
he doesn't. But at the same time, like him versus
Charles Lavera, like him versus Illy again, just because like
him versus a what's it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Justin Gaetgee would be good, Like there's a couple of
like pretty excited honestly a Max Holloway versus a if
he wins this one too, you can if he ever
comes back, like Connor McGregor, have that run that back again.
I feel like that would be exciting. Michael Chandler fight
would be like all these Like I feel like I
feel like there's a lot of fun fights for Max
and one fifty five, but Chandler, I guess see you
fighting Chandler.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Right, just just fun ones Him versus Dan Hooker would
be another fun one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Like they're just there's just exciting fights.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I think people would want to see It's it's weird
because it's like that's what you want the BMF belt
to stick around for, just so you can give it
some unnecessary promotion.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
But like you know, life happens now. If Dustin wins it,
and that'd be beautiful to tire it with him. If
Max wins it, keep it going. If until it's a
it's a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Here's here's the here's the messed up part is as
much as it's like this is a BMF belt, you
need it to end in like a knockout or a
t k O.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Can it just end by decision? You know what I mean?
Just be a point fight, you know what I mean?
The b AF belt, that's why, be a meth knockout belt.
And then just keep it passing around and then it's
like the UFC five mode, just stand a bang and
then and then that belt can just be passing on

(01:01:22):
with the champion belt, like you can do that, have
the champion bell and the b m F Knockout belt
and then that's it. Yeah, I can see that. And
then whoever gets the other next best knockout, whether it
be it could be in the pre limbs or somebody
and early, you know, just a crazy knockout, be like, damn,
that was a crazy knockout. You know what you deserve
now the BMF belt until someone else gets a crazy

(01:01:44):
knockout and then just keep that moving. I like that
idea because that way it builds up hype for that person,
builds up hype for people wanting to get do certain knockouts.
You can still earn the championship belt, but if you
do a crazy knockout, keep that belt move. You have
two belts, you have two belts. Keep that belt moving,
and that's get extra sponsorship on that b MF belt.

(01:02:06):
I like that. I like that. We're gonna, we're gonna
let's let's let's do one one, one more. We're gonna
do that, but I got one more fight before we
do that. Go ahead, but I got one more Waking
Buckley Mawman Wauking. Buckley's time is now, Yes, yes, time
is now, it is. I think he's gonna. I think

(01:02:27):
he's gonna if you walk out with I think he's gonna.
Dustman Usman is gonna retire after that fight. Usman is
good Man. He gave he gave stumping on toes. No
no no, no, no. Listen listen. Most recent fight he gave,
he gave, He gave out the work. He gave nice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
It was it was last minute notice, but he gave
hams out the work.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
He's still in it. I think he's still good. But
I think that Buckley's time is now is like right
with out a sign, They're both like literally, I also
see retiring.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I heard I heard that there's rumors that signed his
next fight is going to be against Sean Strickland, and
then we might see him just get that lick back
just because he's like, I'm not going out with having
this boy have a win over me, and then he
might just walk.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Away that fight. I would not want to see.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
It, but to be fair, to be fair, one Strickland
was the ship right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
It made you think he was was scared all rounds. Yeah,
it's not like it's one or two rounds every round.
He was like, I can't do nothing. I can't do nothing.
He just kept backing up. Bro Strickland was with this
same move punch kick, punch kickuch kick, and he got
just because like again, you look at the weight class,

(01:03:41):
you look at who's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Won and who's lost, who's lost against who That that's
one that honestly kind of makes sense rank wise, the
previous fight wise.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Like who do they want again? But do I want
to see that If it's going to be the same
thing like the last fight, No, I don't want to
see it. I need to turn it to anime out
of Sonya. He's not watching enough anime lady. I'll tell
you that's that's what I need, anime out of Soignya.
And then if he's like if I see him and
O'Malley working out, then I'll be like, yeah, that's why

(01:04:12):
I want to see him fight Sean for the same reason.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
To get the anime outbum it's usually through somebody he
really wants to fight. Who would you not rather to
fight than somebody who gave you a really embarrassing la.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
He needs to wear the head band, three arrows in
the whole thing or dragon ball Z to drop because
if not, I don't know. He needing those little hand
signals they doing now something. Yeah, that's true. He needs
to do that a dancer team again when he comes out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Coming out too seriously, remember when he was winning, he's
doing a little dances.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
He thought he was undertaken, Bro, he was just flexible.
He was in there. Jared Kennedy, I remember that one.
I like it. He had his name on the urn.
That's hard Sudden, that's hard Sadden.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Now he's just coming out just say like calm, humble,
afraid to lose again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
You think it's the same thing, different, bro, not even
the knockout. It's waking up in silk sheets.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
That could be. It's been a while that he's been
People forget he was a multi defending champion. He was
that guy for a long time. The hunger, that's a
lot of money that you pay you every time you win,
but you started the hunger is different. Yeah, just like
for example, not even only and even only UFC, just

(01:05:31):
a lot of things, whether it be other sports, even
like rap, like for example, I always say like I
always wish Eminem was back in the trailer home like
the hunger for him. Wrapping back compared to focus, change
is different. It is what it is, like as much
as it's as much as you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Want to say it, like even stuff like this, like
right now, the love of the game is what pushes
us to put these out as much as we do
have the fun and the energy. Wait until it gets
to the point it's going to be where we have
a whole production staff. Hopefully we still have the same
love for the game. We want to keep making it
as great as possible. But like you never know, man,
things get weird.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Shocky tip che chap if somebody else is not on
the table, somebody else, somebody else is handing you the
cards and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Yeah, all that kind of stuff. I feel like it's
gonna be a weird day, man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
But yeah, I feel like I feel like it's going
to be interesting to see with like those types of
fighters that like they are no longer champions, but they're
still like around, Like what keeps you motivated?

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
The Kamara Rusman's and whatnot, Like what do you what
what is it you're trying to prove? Or do you
just walk away? From the sport. We'll see we'll see
man before we head out.

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me posting other people's stuff. Whenever I see that anybody's

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doing their own thing. I love the support. I want
to see the community grow.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
And with that, I'd like to say a happy sink
of the mile to everybody, a happy UFC three fifteen
this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
We're excited about you. I say, y yeah, yeah, yay.
With that salon get it. This has been another episode
of I'm your host of the Most wonder Brand. This
has been the Heavyweight Champion and the BMF Champion RG.
This has been this is Justin and we are out Beeast.

(01:07:53):
Drop some bomb. This