Take 26 : UFC 318

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome everybody to another episode of Uneducated MMA. I'm your
host with the Most wonder Band. Glad to be back,
but of course they'll be Yeah, champion up the world,
Harry Man. It's been a minute since I've done that. Yeah,
sorry for the little hiatus, guys. You know we've been

(00:38):
gone for a little bit, but you know we're back.
You know, a couple of vacations, had to be taking
some R and R little rest of relaxation, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
When everybody takes a little little break.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I feel like, honestly, I feel bad.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I probably should have given a little heads up and
done like, hey, we're gonna take a break for a
little bit, guys.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
But yeah, a lot of stuff happened.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
But he gave him an international fight week, right, We did,
we did, we get We did the summer breakdown to
kind of cover some of the empty space.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
But like, for sure, I feel like maybe we should
have left to know.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
But it's fine. You got the social medias. You see,
I'm still posting stuff even when I'm on my travels
and whatnot. A lot of stuff we gotta cover. I'm
not gonna lie to you know, a lot of things happened.
I feel like there's like a lot of lot of
space in the middle. We got to kind of touch
on before we start getting into the nitty gritty of
what's coming up. So I feel like, first things first,
I got to bring it up because man, it's been
on my mind since it happened.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Heliot Taporia beat Charles over.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy that we haven't covered that.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
We haven't. We haven't. That's how long it's been, Like,
I mean, wow, it doesn't feel like it's been like
I feel like a super long time.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
But a lot of stuff has happened.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
That one feels good for the one reason that it's
the only one of my favorite fighters. Yep that has
actually won.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Got you.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
I've lost every prediction for you to know, it's at
my expense. I know, I see, I see the I
seen at the gym, and he was talking about the
like how disappointing was just like, I know, my bad.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
We're all geeked up. We're like, O boy, Charles got
this easy smooth, and then in comes Ilio to poor you,
to ruin everyone's parade. Bro, you must have hands of
like apparently he's one of one of the hardest hitters
people have seen so far. I don't know, man.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I think what it.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Is is that like he's very calculating and the way
he approaches the fights and he obviously knows like the
thing I've heard him say it's the combinations. People may
do one two three, one two three four, but he's
hitting you with six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Yeah, he's
coming at you.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
He's done after that first one too, and it's like.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
He digs in the pocket.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
He stands there and he trades and he's not afraid
to get hit to be able to give you that
knockout punch. It so like, kudos to him, man, Like
I said before before this fight even happened, you gotta
respect him. You guys got it as much as I'm
like he is Thanos and he's taking out like all
of my favorite fighters so far. You gotta respect the
hustle man now you want. You don't see nothing but
greatness from him, that's I know.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
And everybody was like joking how small he was and
like going up to this new the new weight class. Yeah,
I've seen that meme of like olivert picking him up
like well you.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
You sent me.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
I think it was either you sent me you were
definitely brought it up.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Where it was like the photo of him versus next
to like Charles or him with Roses Junior, and then
it was just like, well, if Charles is bigger than him,
and then he's bigger than him, he's gonna be a
huge size difference. And for the most part it was
Charles was a taller guy. But I'd say, like on
that scale when they stepped into that cage, like he
looked like he fit the role of a like fifty five.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Pounder, maybe maybe even a little heavier.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Low key like people are talking about now him going
up to one seventy to fight Islam and this and
the third I don't I don't want that people get excited,
for sure, I think it'd be intriguing to see, but
I just want him to I want Elliott to settle
in for a bit and just kind of like rain
for a bit and also see like some cool matchups.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
I feel like he'd have it one fifty five.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
There's a lot of moving pieces with that victory now,
because like beforehand, I know that we were talking about it.
We're like, yo, this is this is the legacy right here.
He's building like some crazy like name count getting to
this point where you can put him on as a
goat without the title, defenses and everything that come with it.
But at the same time, like I feel like he
doesn't have a lot of fights left for the way

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he's like speaking on the things he wants to do,
so I'm trigued to see what his next moves are.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Man out. He just wants to get legendary status and get.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Out, get out of there. I mean, you gotta think
about it. He's already planning on doing like movies and
things like that. He's come up with, like documentaries on
his own life and such, so, like, you know, I
think at this point he's trying to take the fame
and the Yeah, I know, right, I thought it'd be good.
Like I said, he turned this all into fans. He did.
Like as much as you're upset and you're and you're
sitting there trying to pull you know, the barrel out

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of your mouth, like, I feel like you definitely are
like this guy is.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's the character.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's hard not to like.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
No, it's not. Yeah, it's not only like the fighter.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's the confidence bro. Yeah. In fact, he's like I'm
gonna do this, and he does that nuts. I like
the respect, but sure even before the fight he's like,
I'm sorry, I have to do this. Who says that? Who?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I think I said?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
The meme where it's like the Key and Peel skit
where it's like I'm gonna knock his ass out around
one bit and then the other guy's like, I will
take his soul from his buddy. You're like, what are
you talking about? Bro? Is this guy actually crazy? Set
this up? This fighting? Bro? It's like that where he
just speaks into like existence, what's going to happen? And
it's with such calm confidence.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
You're like, I believe it.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
But that's like the always in life right in general,
that's kind of is the formula a manifestation.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
It is speaking into existence.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's like speaking it.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
But also like putting the effort in behind it too.
He's not just talking out of his mouth like the
dude has like his own hyperbolic or whatever chamber inside
of his you know what I mean. He's setting himself
up for success.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Did you see the they celebrated the victory before the fight? Yeah,
I you know, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I felt a little weird about that. But a part
of me also kind of understands the like, if this
regardless of the outcome, I'm proud of all the work
and everything that everybody is put in to get to
this point. I understand celebrating that. Obviously, you got to
be careful because you're fighting the next day. But for
the most part, I do kind of get that to
an extent. I don't know he was. He was like,

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we already got this dub baby, Like I feel that's
a little bit too much, but the celebration is like, yo,
we won. Everybody just it was it was. It was
definitely something to watch it. You're like, man, I hope
Charles just knocks his dude out. But then afterwards you're like, yo, honestly,
it's pretty fly he did that. It's weird how quickly
you turn Like I have. I had such like strong opinions,
and then I feel like, as he just kept moving
after he knocked out Max, That's when I was like,

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can't beat him? Join him? Yeah, I'm sorry, I can't
beat him.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Join him? And it is what it is, bro.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You gotta respect the hustle, you gotta respect his game.
He's managed to do some crazy stuff. One forty five
Champ one fifty five Champ knocked out three of the
fan favorites of the last like five years. And it's
the style too.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
I'm a big fan of boxing, like not necessarily boxing
the sport.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
It's weird how that works, right, I feel like I
bring it up all the time.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Justin isn't here, by the way, he's all fighting who
knows what unnamed villains now. Actually he told me before
I came here. He's like, Yo, my bad, I'm not
gonna be on the pod. I gotta take a train
in Metropolis. Some dude in the Red Cave needs assistance.
He's getting his ass whooped. I don't know what that means,
but he's up to something. I'm gonna let him rock.
We'll see him later. Yeah, he'll be back. He'll be back.
He'll be back. But I was talking to Justin about it,
where it's like he, I mean, he's not the biggest

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boxing fan. I'm not gonna make it sound like, you know,
Justin's the savant. But at the same time, he's the
one that's been trying to get me to get into it.
And I'm like, nah, I don't care. But then I
watch you UC fights where they're like standing in the
cracking and they're like, it's like good boxing for MMA,
I guess you could say, and I'm like, yo, this
is fire. Yeah, I don't know what it is. I
guess it's maybe it's because you're waiting for the threat
of like a takedown or a head kick or something.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
I think how long the rounds they're way more round
than boxing there is, so they're a little bit more
patient in the beginning, and it could get a little like,
I don't know, the UFC is three five rounds, they
really gonna scrap.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I really gonna scrap, even if it's five, if it's
five five minute rounds, it's still they're gonna scrap because
they know, like, depending on the fighter, it's different vibes
going into that octagon. Some are really like you can
tell their gas think is built for three. Unfortunately they
found themselves in a five round fight, but they're meant
to be in a three round fight, so they're gonna
try to knock your head off, and if you survive, fantastic,
then you have a better chance. If you don't, boy,

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you were in for a rude awakening. And I feel
like that's I don't want to say that that's ilia
because I've seen him hold his own going into some
later rounds. But for the most part, like, I don't
think he's I don't think he's had to make it
to a round five in a while. If I'm remembering correctly,
I feel like he's managed to get people out by
at least round three. At the most round three wasn't that.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I forget the stab. I think it was like like
six rounds. Altogether.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Dude's a beast. I mean, if you if you were
to like count like his ring time, then probably it's
probably less than that. He's a He's a he's a beast.
Bro Like you said, he hits hard. He just stands
in that pocket any trades wrestling.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't know he went to the ground to that fight.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
He did. He did. Yeah, he's said he's not afraid.
He's not scared, not at all. That's a part of
it is that I wouldn't say that, like, I think
he's well rounded enough where he's confident in his ability.
Now I'm not saying he's unbeatable. I definitely think there's
people out there that can get him, and obviously in
the sport you zig, you should have zagged, you get clipped.
Stuff happens, But he's definitely confident enough in all aspects
where he's like, I'm I'm okay to go there, I'm okay.

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If you want to go to the ground and you
want to try to submit me, I'm gonna submit you. Yeah.
I mean, he's one of those things. I think he's
also like a part part of the confidence and the
cocky is now becoming like like you when we play
the UFC five games and stuff and they're like, yo,
predict how you're gonna win the fight, Like he's gonna
be like round three submission, yeah, and it will happen.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I've always at round one knockout yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, And it's upsetting when you're in the last like
minute and a half, Like I need to get this
guy stress of the time. But GENIOUSLYE what happens with
iliat going forward? That was just something I had to
bring up off the top, and then going off of
that also just to kind of cover a couple of
other things that happened in between. Uh Chleil Rowntree beat
Jamal Hill. I think I don't think we did a
I'm trying to think of the days, how long I've

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been gone.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I feel like we go for a minute, Jamal Hill
look like a regular human being again.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
He did.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
He's gotta he's got to take some time, I think.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I think for him, it's it's physical and mental. I'm
not gonna lie to you, and I feel weird, becau.
It's always like, you know, you don't want to judge
people and whatnot. But at this point, I'm gonna I
think Jamal Hill should be at one eighty five. Okay,
I don't know, man, I think I think at two
or five. Like physically, he's got a lot of power,

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and I think that that'll stay with him. But I
think if he needs to be a little bit more
disciplined or come back a different twol five, I feel
like it's a part of it. Like he came in
looking a little just a little unprepared, you know what
I mean, a little doowey, little like not really like
he looked like he had like a full camp and
went after it, Whereas like Khalil round, you always look
like you could just like that dude is always fight well.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
He's always just like jack to the gills and ready
to swing on whoever.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
So I think it's crazy that that a fighter could
put in that much work in in the like the
ring out the ring training and still be a little
like yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Like dancing around saying because we don't want to be rude.
All respect to Jamal Hill, by the way, this is
all coming from that.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Like you're burning a lot of calories.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I think it's one of those things, man. It's like
it's like certain habits in certain things, like for example,
like we all know that when you're like I don't
know worded, you can still be like cutting weight and
all that kind of stuff, but it's still kind of
like slacking in certain things even when it comes to
like your exercises.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Granted, like physique at this point, I don't really put too.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Much weight on it when it comes to like MMA,
because you just see some dude get up there that's
like chiseled, Like this dude is jack to the gills,
muscles on muscles on muscles, and he's getting ragged all
by a pudgy dude Like that's just handled. DC is
one of the greatest of all time. DC has never
had a one pack in his his fridge. Is what
that boy got, you know, what I'm saying, And he's
handling people so and again light heavyweight, so you have

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situations with like that doesn't necessarily matter, but I do
feel like sometimes it does kind of show the effort
that you're putting into what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
So I think maybe it's just that, like he's.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Not fully crossing the t's and dotting the eye right,
you feel me he's doing He's doing a good amount,
But I don't know. Man, at a certain point, especially
when you're fighting these like high level dudes that are
like yo, at the heavier weights, they're gonna kill you, Like.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
For sure, you have to be curious because like this
all I went downhill after that injury. Yeah, I'm curious
how well he rehabbed that injury as well.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I think I think part of that is that, for sure,
I don't know he came up with the double knee braces.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I thought it was a little weird, and I don't know, it's.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Like, did you really get that strength back? Yeah, instability
that you really need to.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I do wonder if this was just like he took
the fight because he was like he felt.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Ready, or if he took the fight because he just
feels like he needed to be out there. You know
what I'm saying, That could be that's just like your base.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
That's like where you get all your strength from.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, is your legs.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
So once you lose strength, strength and stability. I don't
know which leg it is off the sure, Yeah, but
like I could imagine a lot even in basketball.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I mean's the movement. He looks stiff. Yeah, but again,
this is a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I know that we've already passed by a lot of stuff,
but I'm just trying to like remember as best as
I can. He looked a little stiff, looked a little
slower than normal. I think Khalil is always going to
just be like that real fast, explosive kind of guy.
So like when he starts throwing his combinations and he
starts throwing his punches and kicks, like he's just coming
at you cutting angles and he's really throwing fast, so
you have to it's a little tricky. I feel like
with Jamal Hill, even like moments where he's trying to

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like cut off the cage and might be like start
throwing at angles and stuff like that. I think that
Khalil was just slightly too fast for him and not
even slightly.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I think he was just faster at the end of
the day. He hits hard and I think.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Way more athletic, like way more and just like Jamal Hill.
What's something about I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I think it's just an effort. Then I'm not saying
that he's not putting in any effort. I'm saying that
like I think it really is that. Like, let's say
it in a week. Yeah, some people might train that
seventh day.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Some people don't. You feel me like that could be
all the difference. You really don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
His character matters.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
I know that shit since since three hundred. I know
that that's been pissing you off.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
It's been pissing me off.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
But I just don't like the constant excuses he makes
after every fight.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah. Anytime I see like like a day or two
after the fight and I see him in his podcast.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Here we go frecking talking about he felt like he
didn't uh lose all the rounds that they say he lost,
and bro, you lost, Like, even if I felt that
way the way I am, I'm not gonna sit there
and just make excuses to the public, maybe maybe to.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
The home reason, but like, just like, nah, I didn't lose.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
I had it felt like I didn't lose those two rounds.
I think it was even here. Bro, you take a loss,
take your loss, and keep it moving. That's just way
more respectable.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think at that point, you just take that like
the l you just accept it to the public. You're like,
I'll be back. I'm gonna go back to the drawing board,
figure it out, make some changes, come back better than ever,
and you just walk out with that grace. That way
people still respect it.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
You're like, yeah, he came in here. At least try
you do this thing.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Because when you started giving excuses and stuff like that,
I think that's what turns the fans rabbit and they're
just ready to see you get slapped.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
And that's not something you want.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
It's a weird thing where like people will tune in
to watch you get your ass beat. But like, I
don't know if you necessarily want the fans to tune
in to watch you get your ass be you.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Like you want some support, you want some support. It's
gonna get to the point where you're gonna be fighting
your hometown and people.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Can Yeah, that'd be crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
I'm not a fan of h well, I'm in this case,
I don't think it happened. But like when they mentioned
injuries after the fact, Yeah, like let let the the
media Menson. You could be quiet, but let the media mention, Oh,
he actually just went into surgery for his right knee.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Da da da.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
But I don't want to hear you like, oh, I
actually had a torn meniscus and this lee and this
I don't.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I think a part of that has to do with them, Like,
I don't know, I part of me has to disagree
on this one a little bit, because, like I get
what you mean. It is a weird thing of it
being an excuse, but you can't really disclose that beforehand,
especially if you're like, I got a bum knee. The
opponent's I'm gonna target to that knee. Yeah, especially especially

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because we've seen like, for example, we've seen Khalil round
you be like, I'm gonna take that leg out, and
it's been horrific to see an obleak stop, Like you
know what I mean. So you've got to be a
little careful with some of the things you say, but
then it is a weird window of time you have
afterwards that it's like, are you being honest and just
letting us into your life and to just see what's
going on, or are you just trying to make an excuse?

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Right right, I would say, if anything, you let your
team say it. Let the team say, like a little
bit of a middle ground, it's medical people.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
But let the medical people say it. But don't go
on no podcasts say.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
No, don't go on no part. It's like that's when
it seems a little fake and you're just trying to
make excuses for yourself. I think at this point every
fighter in the top five has a lingering injury at
all times. I don't I don't think anybody truly fights
fully healthy.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
I don't think so either. I cannot imagine because we've
also seen people achieve greatness and be like my whole
back was destroyed, Yeah and I still did that. Thin
think about like other sports too, Like they're constant playing
that sport, no contact, but they're always getting hurt. Imagine
constant contact literally like trying.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
To hurt each other.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, the amount of injuries.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
You because like like I think people forget like what
do you think practice for these guys. Do you think
that they're just like shout him no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
there are hard rounds being put in. Like the amount
of stories I've heard of people getting like put to sleep,
not choked out, I'm talking knocked out in training camp. Yeah, like,
and then they're building up to a fight. That's a
bad look. Bro, that's a bad move for you, especially

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if you're like taking brain damage and.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
You're like, you know what I mean, that's just lingering.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
You may not want to get checked out for something
like that, or like you said that, you might just
be like I'm just gonna rock with it and just
whatever happens happens. That's a pretty bad move. I listen,
I've played sports in like high school and such, and
I've seen people get injured, including myself, and continue to
like play through it. Granted, some worse than others, some
aren't that bad. I've never had anything that's been like

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super harmful where I'm just like I shouldn't do it.
But I've definitely seen people make bad moves of their
health to just continue going. I think that if you
feel your injury is that bad, or your team thinks
your injury is that bad, you should stop not fight
if it's If it's that big a deal, you shouldn't

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fight and maybe reschedule it for later. But I totally
understand the same token of like maybe you didn't have
another opportunity, you got to do it, But at that point,
I don't want to hear it set as an excuse afterwards.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
You knew you had it, you chose.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
To do it.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I don't want to hear it afterward.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
We watch an Ultimate Fighter back in the day, there's
a lot of these people, this is the one opportunity. Yeah,
they get injured, it, they get sat home.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
The amount of people that go fight right through it
just to they need they need two knee surgeries. But
still there. It's like, it is kind of crazy what
they they do.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
They put a lot into it. But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
It's a tricky thing to talk about because you're like,
I understand it, I respect it, but I also don't
want to hear it as an excuse. If you if
you know this is happening, it is what it is.
Bro the cards fell, they what they did, It's just
I don't know have to tell you. I'm sorry it sucks,
but on to the next, on to the next bro,
so we'll see where they move from there. Khali Rowntrees
is steadily working his way back to that title. I
think I think he's gonna get another shot soon. I'm

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not saying off of this one will get a shot,
but I definitely think that, like, he's got maybe one
or two and then he's got a shot. I think
that he showed a lot of heart and he definitely
did well against Alex. Alex is just that guy, unfortunately,
but I definitely think I see him getting another title
shot at least within twenty twenty six if things go well,
I feel like I can see him maybe by the

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end of twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Six a shot.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
That division's kind of like light look get a little light.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I think the heavier weights are definitely just like struggling
light heavyweight and heavyweight. I'm not gonna lie to you
in terms of like name value. You got Khalil, who's
now at number four after that win. Above him, you
got Olberg, Prohasca, Pereira, and obviously the champion Uncliath uncle
I versus Pereira most likely his next Maybe we can
do Roundtree versus Olberg.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
That wouldn't be bad. That would be a good one.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Rowntree versus Prosca.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Seek my money? Who would you get on that one?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I feel like again the bias is gonna be there.
I feel like I gotta go with I gotta go
with Khalil. I feel like yeerie is a tough thing
to solve, and he moves very fluid and he also hits.
But my thing with him is that he's willing to
get into a car accident, and I feel like Khalil
usually wins the car accident.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I feel that I do feel like that last.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
He fights you like you owe him money. You get that,
you get that like you owe him money. He has
like a street style he does when he was fighting,
when he fought Jamal, there was a couple of punches
where like it was like overhand rights that he was throwing.
You're like, bro, he put everything into that, Like he
is trying to take that head clean off. There is
no I'm scoring these points new He's trying to get

(20:36):
you out of that, bro as fast as possible. Like
I said, there's the fighters that they're like, I got
you into three rounds, and I think Khalil was one
of them. He's like, I'm trying to get you out
of here early, but who.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Did you Eerie Pasca fight? Last time?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
It was Hill, No, Jamal Hill.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
I'm trying after that it was a very impressive. I
remember just thinking it was Hill.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
It was Hill, right, Yeah, he he killed Hill in
round three. Before that he lost to Alex and before
that that he beat Racket at three hundred, so I
could see that title eliminator for the next one, next
one up them two if not, I mean, I guess
you can give Oldberg a shot, but I feel like
Oldberg also, I don't know. He's kind of been like
kind of slept on and he's been racking up these wins,
but I feel like it hasn't been anything super impressive

(21:16):
where people like put him in there, but he beat
He's on a three fight or actually maybe even more
than that. Let's see how many he's on a streak
right now?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Hold on, I was I say, because I don't remember
him being high in the rankings.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Eight fight wins streak this boys on right now. Last
two was against Yanblohovich and volcan Ols Demir.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Okay, so he's doing pretty good solid.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
He beat former Champ right there and Yomblohovich. I mean,
granted that was I think it was like a controversial decision,
but for the most part, it seems like he can
be up there. If he's not next you give him
versus round Chie, or if not, you do round Che
versus prosca and you go from there. But I don't know, man,
that's gonna be an interesting one to see how that
plays out, because, like I said, those heavier divisions, I
feel like people are kind of like falling asleep with
like heavyweight and whatnot. I don't think people really caring

(22:02):
so much about it. John Jones and Tom was like
the top of the town for quite some time. But
besides that, it ain't shit going on.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
No, I'm like craving some new heavyweight.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
This past weekend because again we're gonna go over stuff brought.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
It up, but like definitely gave it a little spice.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
You gave dereklu was his name Derek Lewis versus what
I'm trying to think of how to say his name
is Talison to shar is that how you said his
name Talis? And to Shara, I think so tallis Talison
Talason Talis And to share. I think is how you
say his name because I'm thinking of like how you
said Glover. I think they have the same last name
to Shara. Yeah, he was somebody that was eight to zero.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Coming up. People were like excited this huge dude.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
He's like six y six something like that. I don't
know he's tall. I think he's like six four, but
he's a tall dude, heavyweight powerhouse, knock people out, same thing.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
They ain't making it out of the first round.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Goes up against Derek Lewis slept, not really slept, but
controversial decision, controversial stoppage, I should say.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
I think it was like one of those are like, yeah,
it is an early stops, but he would have got him.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Any I think he would have got him anyway.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
And I think a part of where why the ref
kind of stopped it is because he was getting swarmed
on and I had to watch like the like a
replay of it. When he's up against the fence and
Derek is just swinging for the fences. You see homeboy
crawl his way up through the fence.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's too much. It's too much, it's too much.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
One You're you're not just like you know, what to
yell at you for holding on to the fence.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, he was like, yeah, he was climbing his way
back up, not defending himself, climbing his way back up,
like I think. I think if he didn't stop it there,
it probably would have like turned around and then just
one of the punches would have landed cleaning he would
have just dropped. Personally, I think you probably should have
let that one go a little bit longer. But I
don't think anybody really cares too much besides probably Talis
and I think he's probably pretty fast the heart they

(23:49):
fall for sure. I mean he didn't fall super hard,
but yeah, it is what it is. But that's another
young and hungry heavyweight that got put the pasture.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Now, we have not a lot of big name in there.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I know, me and you were over here supporting and
rooting for Waldo to get that title. So he's working
other than that, you know what I mean, We don't
really got a.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Whole lot of working every day, Chada, you know what
it is.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I feel like it's the same thing with a lot
of other like divisions where you have somebody that's like
coming in and they got like three, four or five
like fight win streak underneath their belt and they just
come across somebody that just puts them down, and that's
what you like. You It's like all all the hype
and everything goes away, But I feel like it shouldn't,
I know, especially if they're doing like real like for example,
with Talison, I'm excited to see him come back, you

(24:33):
know what I'm saying, Like not like saying I'm like,
oh my god, he's gonna be the no no, no no,
But in the sense of, like, listen, he's not that experienced.
He's got eight fights total. Now it's nine, but eight
fights total going into this one. I think only one
or two technically within the UFC because one was in
the Contender Series the other one had to be his
actual debut. But you know, sometimes the lights really do

(24:57):
get to people, and it's a lot so who knows,
maybe he can he gets another crazy knockout street because
I'm gonna be honest with you, a lot of those
do the heavyweight all right. They're not world beaters. They're
not anybody that's gonna be coming and do some crazy shows.
And a lot of the time it is as hard
as they hit, they get hit real hard too. They
will also drop so and when it comes to heavyweight,
like he could really post some stuff together and who knows.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
But I feel like people are too quick to dismiss
some people.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
So hopefully let people get some losses. It doesn't mean,
it doesn't mean that their career is over. They suck now, Yeah,
it's just because they lost to someone just as good.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's like, for example, and this is this is going
to be the subject of the entire episode by the way,
as UFC three eighteen, in case you guys didn't see
the headline when you read the title before you clicked
on the video. Max versus Dustin, same idea when it
comes to them, both of them phenomenal fighters, goats in
their own way, hall of famers for sure. Both have

(25:53):
lost to some of the best losses. They still have
losses on the record. But when you look at the.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Losses, you're like, bro legends, I remember all got like
big losses, like big losses EsPAS to the innocent Silvers,
to the so you could go down.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I think it comes with the territory because as cool
as it is to be a kabeeven retire like twenty
nine and oh or whatever, it might be like I
think that you look at the names on there and
you see like some crazy names for like his most
recent like wins. But then before that, it's like, ah,
it's all right, So it's like, how worthy are you
of of this like kind of legacy in terms of like, wow,

(26:27):
you are just this beast defeating the best of the best.
Like it's one thing that you're like, like I said,
like imagine number two heavyweight in the world is like,
now I'd like to fight anybody below the top ten
please and just start knocking out like these fresh up
and coming dudes. You'll build this crazy record. But it's like,
did you fight anybody that really pushed you? Really doing
anything crazy? Like as much as it's upsetting that Dustin
lost against Islam, hey he gave it to him.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah he put up Seen the clip of how much
respect he was showing them after that fight. Yeah, And
it's just I love that.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, that's the best part of the Squarks when you
see like you're like watch and these are they yo,
They're about to kill each other, and then that that
horn blows and they just stop the fight because it's
the end of the fight, and they go and they
just dap each other up, give them to the hug
and there's like all respect, or they.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Like pray together or something like that. I like that.
I will say this.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Sometimes you're like, you need to stop talking to that
person right now. If they're not happy right now, they
don't want to look at your.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Yeah, that one slide like when you whoop the ass.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yes it's bad. Yeah, you just like, yo, you did
good though.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
That's that one's a little different.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Great. When it's like mutual we don't know who's gonna win,
it's like cool. But when it gets to that point
where you're like you just would my ass for fifteen
to twenty five minutes straight.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
I don't want to look at you right now.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
I respect it, but I'm wanna look at you right
you know, give.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
It up to.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Give it up to he was the faking yeah so
much hard.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Shout out to the to the fight night this past
weekend to Lauren Murphy who retired. By the way, I
know she lost so she didn't get her moment, but
shout out to her. I've seen so many of her
fights over the years as someone who's just been in
the UC for a long time, so It's been cool
to watch her fight, but one of the funniest moments
post fight I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
The shorty she fought, this Brazilian girl comes up to
her and.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Speaking to her full blown Portuguese, and she just looks
at her right in the face, honest and just I
have no idea what the fuck you're saying.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
I'm so sorry, and just walked away from her.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Respect.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Respect, respect, respect, You gotta respect that.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
She's honest.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Bro, I'm gonna be honest with you, like you we
just got into a war.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I lost my retirement fight, and you're coming at me
in the language I don't even fathom, Like I can
barely think I respect. My brain is bound. Respect a
word you're saying right now. I'll keep it pushing. I'll
talk to you later.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
You know what I'm saying, Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I don't blame her for that. She didn't want to
hear that at that moment. You can't be mad. I
feel like it's really funny though, for her to be like,
I don't know anything you're saying right now. They just
walked out of the octagon. I think it would have
gave her a moment on the mic to be like, yo,
shout out to you in your career that she's like, I, yeah,
I'm good. But I definitely think that with some of
these fighters that like they get these losses and stuff

(28:45):
like that, I don't think it takes away too much
from their shine in my opinion. I will say, though,
if I see a fighter that, like I am not
really impressed with the winds are stringing together and then
they get their ass absolutely beat by somebody that's like
in a higher ranking or like known to be a
better fighter than them, That's when I'm like, okay, you.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Got fraud checked for me.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
When you're like skating by on some dumb shit and
then you've come across somebody that like, well they got either.
I don't really take the like I said, this ze
when you should have zagged you get clipped kind of situation.
But if I see you get your ass beat like
you got you got beat, like that's pretty bad, then
I'm like, oh, you're good. Be good. I feel like
with heavyweights it's a little different. Like heavyweight it's a
little different, but like when you start getting into like
one forty five pounds and it's like a lot of

(29:28):
skill and you're just getting dominated for like fifteen rounds.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
It's like we speaking of skill, that young that young dude,
the Van.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, oh my god, Joshua Van.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
I don't think I've ever seen a fight where I
was that excited. Well I don't want to say that,
but like I was just so impressed by someone I
didn't know.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, I think he's somebody that's now on everybody's radar.
For the most part. I've been seeing him do his
round on podcasts and stuff like that in the MMA space,
like a lot of people are trying to tune it in. Bro.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
He hits hard.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
He's a great boxing style, which is usually very exciting.
That's what it want. Well, you brought it up early,
you feel me. But it's true, like, listen, we're not
going to sit here and act like most casual fans,
including ourselves, I guess to a certain extent. I don't
know at this point, I don't even know what to
call myself. But like most people that watch, it's usually
that that they really care about. If you're standing and trading,

(30:18):
you're boxing like crazy. I think that that's the thing
that's the most exciting to people. Obviously, you see a
spinning hill hook to the face. It's pretty dope. But
those are very rare and far in between for the
most part. When you see like a scrap, but you
see people are like what you would consider a war
and usually boxing. It's usually heavy. They're boxing heavy. They're

(30:38):
trading Max Holloway and Calvincator. By the way, Calvncator Massachusetts
very own and shout out to him, bro, But I
think he's definitely got to revamp some stuff. Go back
to the drawing board. He's got a couple of losses
now racking up. He's got to figure it out. You
know why it sends you to the PFL.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
I definitely against them.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I totally get it. Listen, like it's one of those
things that like we support our own. We definitely want
to see the best for the people from around here,
you know what I mean. Shout out to I know
this has nothing to do with MMA, and this might
get some people mad, but shout out Brian for winning
Love Island.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Ever it's very own.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, but like the people around here, I love to
support and I love to shout the mount I want
to make sure that like people understand that, like we
get some cool stuff that comes out of Massachusetts. I
feel like it's not a lot of things that are
told besides, like the Witch Trials, you feel me. It's
so I feel like I like to put people on,
but at the same time, I'm gonna keep it real,
Like if you're not doing the best, I'm gonna let
you know you're not doing the best. Like, and this
is something that like, I feel like we got to

(31:36):
be honest with it when it comes to like us
as like I know the annoying part everybody says not
everybody deserves a microphone. And this and the third this
show is for me, this show is for you. This
is us giving our opinions. If you'd like him good,
If you don't, I don't really care. But I'm also
going to keep it straight. Like with Calvin, who's like
he's from here. I'd love to support him, I'd love
to see him do great, but at the same time,
but get together, yeah, figure it out. I feel like

(31:59):
after I saw the Max Holloway fight and Max is like,
I'm the best boxer. He's not even looking at him
dodging his punches. After that, I feel like every fight
I've seen it's like Calvin Caator getting whooped on a
little bit, and that's it's hard to watch.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I think sometimes fighters getting a little bit of a rut,
as everybody does with anything in life, and you just
got to take a step back, think about what's going on, revamp,
maybe take a break, you know, come back through it.
I know he's probably not the youngest dude in the game,
but like six months to a year kind of figure
it out, heal up, and then go back to it,
you know.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Sometimes, like you do have to let your body heal,
you do. Yeah, I think sometimes it takes longer than
just a little two months. Yeah, you need a good
little half year.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
It's some some rest, relaxation, just kind of like figuring
it out both physically and mentally. I feel like, because
it also when it comes to like that we were
talking about earlier with the injuries and stuff like that,
that stuff mentally affects you as well, and you're so
used to doing things a certain way and now you
physically cannot do a thing that that messes with your brain.
Bro Like, you do definitely go through something where you're like,
am I not good enough? Am I not able to

(32:58):
do this anymore? Is this even me anymore? Or whatever
it might be. Like, I think you definitely get into
some weird headspace and you can't you can't have those
doubts going into a place where you're getting ready to
get punched and kicked in the face. That cannot happen,
all right, Like, you can't. Really there's nobody else in
that cage to rely on but yourself.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
You have like this certain fear of re injuring.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, the only person that's gonna save you is the
ref And even then is when he's pulling the other
guy off of you. That's not a good look, bro,
It's not a good look.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
So people gotta be a little careful.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Like we got a couple of people that like definitely
have like fell off a little bit, you know what
I mean, They gotta kind of revamp. I think that's
when a little bit of.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
A theme going on in the last few months.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I think that the one thing we've talked about is
like the old Guard and the New Guard and all
that kind of thing. And I think at this point
there's just like a lot of fighters that are like
either burning themselves out or like just not I don't know,
focusing on other stuff. Maybe, I don't know. I feel
like I've seen a couple of people kind of take
the eye off the prize and like you see where
it kind of goes bad. Like, I don't think that

(33:57):
things would have been super different, but I definitely think
if Volkanovsky, for example, took I don't know his life
decisions a little bit differently leading up into the Ilia
fight because I know he's had some mental demons he
was battling, things might have worked out a little different,
you know what I mean. His family wants to retire too.

(34:17):
I mean, dude, he's got a lot. I was listening
to his his By the way, everybody go check out
Mighty Mouse's YouTube channel. It's so good if you want to,
like listen. I like the Joe Rogan ones where he's
sitting down with the fighter and kind of going over.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
But I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Sometimes Joe Rogan just like some other thing, he kind
of goes over. It's like hearing it on repeat over
and over again. So I don't really care that much.
But I feel like Mighty Mouse gets into such a
nitty gritty like into like certain things with the fighters,
where like he gets personal and he knows where you're
coming from, so he knows exactly the questions to ask
to get a really different answer than you would see
that fighter put on any other interview or social media

(34:53):
that they get. At least in my opinion, this is
what I've been seeing. That's what I like.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I like to see the perspective of the fighter. I don't,
I do, I do. I know this is a weird
space where like the athletes are the podcasters now, but
I also never in my life liked the non athletes
being like with Stephen A. Smith and the ones kind
of just like, you don't know that perspective. Do you

(35:17):
see it from a viewers perspective? It's a different you
don't see it from a And I've only realized that
when doing this playing basketball, I see how my peers
kind of like view basketball and stuff, and I'm like, okay,
I can see a difference from the ones that played
and the ones that doesn't, because.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
You can tell off of like.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Their point of view and where they're coming from is
completely different than other people. So like, for example, if
for you you've been playing basketball your entire life, like
you at this point know the game in and out,
career whatever, be damned whatever it might be. That though,
there's something you know very well from the player perspective
as well as a viewer perspective. So with you, like

(36:00):
you have very interesting takes on certain things because of
the way you think about it versus somebody that's more
of a viewer heavy kind of.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Perspective, tend to be more understanding.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, because even like if somebody was to get into
like technique and whatnot, you'd be able to kind of
like connect that a lot better than maybe somebody else would. Like,
if I'm asking questions, it's gonna be very basic questions
that like probably they've been asked fifty other times with
fifty other people versus like the perspective you give is
going to be vastly different. So when it comes to
like a fighter asking another fighter things, it's different than
Joe or Ariel.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Hawani or whatever it might be given.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Their perspective, Like even if you've been far enough from
the game as well, because like Joe did like taekwondo
and whatnot, so he has fought professionally, but it's different.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, you get me.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
So I think that like the Mighty mouses and things
like that. It's cool to watch them do their definitely,
you know it definitely is.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
It's like they can pick apart things that, like a
viewer never thought of because they were never there to
think about it.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
In that situation, you also learn a lot more so, Like,
for example, the reason I brought it up is like
the whole thing with Alex is like him and Mighty
went back and forth on like certain subjects because like
Mighty is also coming at him. I've dissected you, I've
dissected your fights. I've dissected the fights that you lost.
I'm gonna ask you questions that may be uncomfortable, but
they're there, Like for him talking about ilia, like I.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Brought it up earlier.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
The whold thing about the combination, Where do you think
I got that from? You guys think I trained, I
him trained. That's where I got it from. Where he's explaining,
like he's not just coming at you with one, two, three,
He's coming at you with four, five, six, seven.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Eight, You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
He's explaining how you lost, and he's saying it to
his face, Like that's really cool to see.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
That's the part of fighting that I really really intrigues me,
is like the puzzle the puzzles, yeah, like uh like
picking them apart, the when.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
When to the counters and the one of my favorite
things that has to like do with what you're speaking
on right now. You ever see when it's like a
crazy knockout or a crazy finish and then like maybe
the day after they released the footage of that person
training that move in the right before they walk out
can or with aaldo or whatever it might be.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
He does this, I'm gonna do this.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, you're like, I know this is coming. Yeah, I'm
very aware this is coming, and I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
I think even.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Moments like Derek Lewis, we were just talking about him
and Curtis Blades level changes. I'm gonna level change with
you and I'm gonna throw the supper cut and we'll
see what happens. Put him to sleep immediately, stiff, like
you just it's like crazy, the split decision you.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Make and how well it works out.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
It's nuts, bro. The flying knee and whatnot. Just like
I don't know, but you know when a time is
because they have this tendency of doing this thing.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
That's where like people I feel like.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Don't understand the benefit it is to have a good camp,
good coaches. Like that's another thing I love. As much
as I enjoyed listening to the fighters and whatnot, listening
to the coaches is crazy, Like you want to be
like listen as much as.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Like all right now put that, put the lego.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
It's like listening to technique in the way that they
blade certain stuff is insane. Like I love watching like
instructional videos and stuff like that where they're just kind
of going over certain things, like just like learning from
their point of view of like what you need to
do as a fighter to get to where you need
to be, and they have the experience to back it up,
like a Trevor Whitman, who has now coached several successful
fighters in the UFC.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Like he's talking, you're listening.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
You gotta know what they're going on about because if not, bro,
like I feel like you're just gonna I've.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Always I've always appreciated the art of every sport. Yeah,
like there's a detail of the art of it, Like,
oh man.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
It's a lot. It's a lot of it. People don't
think about it.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
They think they're playing sport ball.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
But even if you would have looked through an NFL playbook,
you're like, bro, what, like it's super confusing. But then
you speak to somebody who's in the NFL, You're like,
oh no, you want to do this the geniuses of
the game.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
You may he might not be the most athletic, but
he's just well.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
That's why, like I kind of like have this this
counter argument when it comes to people like hating, like
like I don't I'm not saying you're hating, but like
in the sense of like where you're like I don't
like to see even a Smith's and this and the
third because you have to understand that it's a different lens.
It's not that it's bad. I just think it's a
different lens. I understand where people come from where they're like, well.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
You don't even do this.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
But like, man, I feel bad because I'm blanking a
homeboy's name. But there's one of the dudes who does,
like the pre the weigh in shows with like DC
and Laura Sanko, and I'm blanking on his name so
bad right now he has never fought and he gets
clowned on all the time for not doing it.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
But then at the.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Same time, it's like, well, you he may have watched
the sports since he was a kid and just chose
not to actually train in it because he knows what
could be the dangers or whatever it might be, or
maybe just life took him a different way. You can't
hate on his perspective because he's coming at you with
a different one.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
You gotta respect that.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Too, because at the same time, like for me, as
much as fighters can watch that for example, our podcast,
and I know all the fighters in the UC watch
our podcast because it's the number one MMA podcast out there,
as much as like people can watch the podcast and
not like their opinions or they're not like what they
have to say, you also have to respect it in
a sense of like, hey, Bud, we're watching you all
the time. So like as much as you're like, you

(40:49):
don't know what I'm doing, it's like, yeah, we do.
I've seen you now in all your fights professionally in
the UFC. Your ass or you're great, or you're you're okay,
you could do better here.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
They definitely a lot harsher. Yeah like that that lens.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I'll tell you right now.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
They're definitely a lot harsher because they expect greatness out
of everybody, and I feel like you can't do that.
That's why I don't feel comfortable comparing certain people, like,
for example, like at this point, I don't think anybody
should be comparing anybody to Connor McGregor, especially not outside stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Regardless. By the way, by the time we're.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Recording this, yes we saw on Twitter, Yes we heard
about the weights.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Dear God, but shout out boy.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
But it's also the thing of like that was a
moment in time that something really special happened where someone
had a meteor like rise into fame and stardom and
all this other stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
You can't do that, I can't. You gotta do it
in a different way.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
That was a beautiful story, even though like if it
was a movie, yeah, like the I remember the beginning
of him and he was just like that that nobody Irish.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Boy, Like who the fuck is this? Yeah, it is
kind of rise.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
There's a photo that goes around and I should have
got it here, but there's a photo that goes around
that was just like, man, this card is only a
few years ago, and on the pre I think.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
It's like the Prelimbs or something like that.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Eliot Taporia DDP, and I forget who the other person was,
but like I think not Pantosia with somebody else, but
like all three of them champions at least within the
last few years, and it's crazy to think about because
it's such a short amount of time. They immediately pop up.
Like I remember watching DDP and people be like, he's
not that good. Pretty bad. And then also like people
being like, oh, it's because his nose is messed up.

(42:24):
He can't breathe too well. He gets his nose fixed,
he's win win, win, win, and now he's beaten easy
and he's doing this in the thirty You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
where did.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
All this come from?

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Versus like someone like a Hamsa who just comes in
like a bullet. You're like, yo, this guy off Rip
is like doing crazy stuff. It's different, different careers, everybody's different.
You can't compare everybody to like all the other aspects.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
It's like the same reason.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Like as much as I sit behind that desk and
I'm producing and I'm listening to you guys talk Michael
Jordan versus Lebron stuff, that's gottas stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's
gott Us.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
I've I've definitely stopped at this point. I kind of
just like appreciate both of them.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
But it's different eras it's different games. They're playing against
different people. Now, if you were to try to compare
two people that verse the same teams or the same
people in the same time, that I understand.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
You don't see it in other sports. You don't see
it in fighting where were it's just like, no, it's
not John Jones, it's it's long.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
I think that people definitely have that that that argument
for example of like who is the greatest of all three?
You'll have people say gsp You'll have people say then
John Jones, you have people say then Anderson Silva, You'll
have people say Mighty Mouse. I think it definitely it's
easier to have the conversation of like who's your Mount Rushmore,
who's the four?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Especially with fighting, there is different weight classes, so it's
hard to put like but like even like a football
or like a baseball.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I'll tell you this, there's one thing I will say
about fighting that is a little different.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
With fighting.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
There is the pound for pound list, at least in
the MMA. That makes it a little different because the
idea behind powerfer pound is that your skill can translate
to any weight class and you're him. You are the one.
You are the person. Now that's a little I feel
like that one. You can then get that argument of like, well, no,

(44:04):
this person could probably do it.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
But at the same time, I Enjordan.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Maybe it's because it's that close or or there's there's
so many on both sides.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I think for me, it's that there's too many, too
many like comparisons that can be made that you then
make those comparisons. You feel me like, it's just like
you want to hold there needs to be some sort
of standards you can hold somebody to it. But like,
for example, here's here's my thing with it. You don't
need to have Michael Jordan's career to go into the
Hall of Fame. That in and of itself, we shouldn't

(44:32):
have then him as a comparison. It should be just
what you need to do to get into that. It's
like the same thing as like like we were talking
about getting in the Hall of Fame or being greatest
of all time and all that kind of stuff. For me,
in my own opinion, I do think you need to
be a title holder and have multiple defenses to be
able to be considered the greatest of all time in
that weight class, just because not only did you show

(44:54):
you could get to the top, but you stay at
the top. Pantosia, Yeah, at the top, and he's staying
at the top. I don't know who's taking. But then
with him, nobody really talks about him like that. I
feel like, unless you're like a hardcore like guy who
I'm listening to, like like all my other MMA podcasts,
you don't really give him that respect because he's not

(45:17):
this like crazy draw and all this other stuff. But like,
at the same time, I argue, Sean O'Malley has more
fans than that guy, and Pantosias has significantly a better
career than Shron O'Malley has, Right, you know, It's the
same thing with like Mighty Mouse when I hear him
and his like I didn't watch him growing up because
I didn't watch the sport growing up, But then I
hear how much money he was making compared to guys
who were fighting at the same time he was, and

(45:38):
he's known as one of the greatest of all time.
He's getting played.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
You say, you see what I'm.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Saying, like, I feel like it's hard to make those
comparisons because then you start getting ino the nitty gritty
of things, and it's like doesn't make sense to an extent,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Fighting is like who who is?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
If we've removed it.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
All goes That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
It all goes down to personal preference at the same time,
Like it's like who they fought, how they.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Fought theide of realize with basketball with football in a
personal preference.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
In my experience, it seems like GSP is someone who
you would lean towards because of like stats, but then
also like the ability to face adversity and overcome it
is something that's something he's been able to show time
and time again.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I'm going to adapt to what's going on.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
I'm going to learn your style and kind of improve
online and kind of go from there. I think that
he's kind of the embodiment of like because of the
gold standard of what you should be.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Because like that, uh, that three fight era, but like
they kind of like like the what's called where for that?

Speaker 3 (46:51):
You let me know put it in the comments.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
We should probably because now we're like almost almost an
hour in we haven't even brought up the actual card. Well,
let's get it just at that time. And I was like, Lord,
cuts up on. We have been catching up for a
minute anyway, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
I'm sorry to cut off your train of thought, but
lost it.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
So you're good. That's fair enough. All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's get it into nitty gritty enough catching up to do,
even though we're almost done with this episode uf C
three eighteen. That unfortunately Dustin Poirier's retirement fight. But he's
going out with a bang. Oh no moss baby, so
we got Dustin Poorie versus Max Holloway for the beat
math title.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
I'm surprised you let them fight for that, bro, you
know what.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I just know that like they'll they'll give it right
back once at.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Fair enough, fair enough, you know what I mean. They'll
keep it warm for.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
You because they want to. I've heard Dana was saying
that he don't want it in the UFC no more,
and he wants to let have it end after this,
So I told.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Him get right back.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
I put him out, put it.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Back on my wall. We square.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
I feel like it makes sense to get rid of it. It
doesn't make sense, bro, it.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Has to go one of them because at the same time,
like I've been hearing people say it and we had
the same argument over it as well, like.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Did Iliot win that belt?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
He knocked out the BMF.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
I know it wasn't up, but I personally think he
ended up because I think he's a BMF.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I think so too.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I think he falls into the category as of a BMF.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
I would say so. I think if you put him
in a BMF fight, you'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Like if it was somebody else that was nice and
you maybe choked them out.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, Charles and Ilia, if you were to swap out
the light lightweight belt for the BMF belt, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah, it makes perfect sense. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
It's weird because it's a cool thing that like you said,
it's a hardcore Champion c W, which is really cool,
but it's off to the side. It's not the main thing, but.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
It's really cool for the fans. You feel me.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
I think at this point it's time for them to
kind of like put that thing to rest just because
it's weird. Merrow you, It's like, do you make any
more money.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Do you do you do you hold it? You walk
around with it? Are you the BMF? Do you then
go for other Do you still want to go for
regular gold?

Speaker 1 (48:48):
And you just fighting these BMF fights?

Speaker 4 (48:50):
And how many bms really are there?

Speaker 3 (48:53):
It's a good question, it's good question.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
Not that man.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
And then is it only one weight class or can
you expand it in any but it could be a
BMF like title holder?

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Can women have a BMF belt?

Speaker 1 (49:04):
You feel me like there's so many like.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
And like sorry, but if you're a Brazilian jiu jitsu specialist,
you don't fall in you don't fall under it.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
So you have to be pure scrap scrap yeah, only
like Bobby Bobby Green whose name was fight Style Hood, Like, yeah,
you just gotta be someone that's like wanting to go
into the war, and that is what it is.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
I think it's so funny, bro.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I feel like there's like a lot of people that
I feel like will fall under that category. But I
think at this point just retired the belt. But with
this fight, it's gonna be a very good card I
think in the sense of like let me disclaimer, no
big names on here. I feel like besides Max and
Dustin If you watch Heavy, Kevin Holland is on this card.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Other than that, but.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I see those not really a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
We can see Kevin holl Yeah, we got Max Holloway
versus Dustin Poorier. We got Paulo Costa versus Roman copy Loft,
Kevin Holland versus Danielle Rodriguez. We got Dan fifty k
e Gay versus Patricio Pippole and Michael Johnson's versus Daniel's
del Huber. We got a couple of things that's not bad.
That's not bad, you know what I mean? We got
we got like a couple of people in the prelims.

(50:11):
But I'm gonna be honest with you in terms of
name value, not a whole lot. But I will tell
you this, Unfortunately it is a pay per view. I
will agree with some other people that have made the
comment it probably should have been like a really badass
fight night. But you gotta give these boys that pay
per view money.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
They deserve it.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I think that it's worth the watch obviously to my
fans watching, you watch it the way you're gonna watch it,
I know exactly what.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
You You know what I mean? You watch the way
you're gonna watch it.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Watch it the way I'm gonna watch it.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
You watch it the way you're gonna watch it.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Right, Because at this point no one's gonna say that,
but I will say it's a good it's it'll be.
It'll end up being a good car. It's like the
same way. Like this past weekend, it was a fight night.
I'd argue it was the fight night of the year. Bro.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Like, I want to just thank the UOC for how
many good fight nights we've had the past couple of months.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah, I think that people put up fight nights to
the side, but fight nights can be good.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Yo, because like free, like if you have ESPN, Yeah,
free amazing fights like this we're talking usman. Who else Buckley?

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Right? Buckley?

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Yeah, there was another goodass fighter, Jamal Hill and All Hill.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
That was a fight night. What else do we have?
Let's see, let's see.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
The juneteenth June from the Teeth card.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah, San Jago versus Figruedo that was a good one.
Uh I Gary versus Carlos Protest. That was another fight night. Like,
we've had a couple of good ones.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Man. Obviously not every.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Fight on the fight nights are gonna be like wow.
But like, for the most part, you get some good
bangers on there and this is gonna be a good
one too. Not a fight night, but it's pay review,
but you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
And for the most part, I know like people like
maybe're not your casual or whatever, but the pre limbs
be lit we go.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I so annoyed people that are like they just really
show up for like the main event, or they don't
care at all of the main card. But I'm really
gonna know people that don't even watch the prelims, because like,
how are you going to be a fan of the
sport and not want to watch the up and coming
like no name people like put in like the fight
of their life, because you have to understand, Yeah, the
ones that are at the end, at the last bit,

(52:16):
for the most part, I have all the money. They
don't not that they don't care, but they don't have
a whole lot to lose. The ones that are at
the beginning. Those are restaurant employees. Some people work at
a valveeline. You make a little tank to show up,
a little whack bro whack they want.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
They're the ones that are going to show up.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
They're gonna give you a war because they want you
to pay attention to them so they can get their money.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
But like, people don't care about that, bro.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
I'm they get the same pay as b Yearly.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
You take two hungry people and you offer them a
saltine cracker to the winner, you're gonna see the scrap
of your life. That's basically what you're watching on the
pre limbs, and I feel like.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
More people need to tune in.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
That's why I like when I watch and I see
that there's like all you see is THEO Vaughn sitting by.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Everybody else is gone, it's just him right there.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
And then you'll see like two no names just killing.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
Yeah, you're sitting there like who the fuck are these guys?

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Immediately are like I got your name written down at
this point, like I'm gonna pay attention to you. But
to be fair, a lot of the fighters that we're
seeing now were always known. There were no name people
on a prelium at some point Like I seen this
chick didn't know any of these girls fighting.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
She got her head kicked off.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Yeah that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
I was like, yeah, I saw a meme that was
like I've seen enough welcome back Leon Edwards. Ye. I
was like, that's crazy, that's wild work, but it's true.
Like I feel like people don't Fatima climb the name.
There's a lot of people that you don't. You don't
think about that. You like watch the Freedoms, You're like,
this is crazy. Like, oh, we were talking about heavyweight earlier.
What's his name, Walter Walker. Johnny Walker's like brother step brother.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
They they don't look at all.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
They honestly til you just said that, I didn't know
they were brothers.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
They are either half a step I don't care why
anybody tell me there's some something going on. And I
was like, huh.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Another Walker that's Brazilian.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Interesting And this is his third heel hook win.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
He has a different variation of the heel hook.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
This guy is somebody you gotta watch. But he's on
the pre limbs.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
You won't know about him. That's why I like, I
did my best on the MMA page. I'm like posting
finishes and I'm posting the crazy wins, even if it's
on the early prelims, because you know, my bum ass
is watching all of them. But I want people to
be able to see these people and put a light
on them too, because that's what grows the sport. Listen,
not even every main event is going to be exciting.
I'm gonna argue more often than not, there's a more

(54:33):
exciting fight on the early or the regular prelim than
there is the main event of that entire pay per view.
I'm not gonna lie to you. This one's a little different.
I think Max and Dustin are gonna go to war.
I don't see a situation where like either one of
them are really gonna even even I think Dustin, who
is somebody who would go to the ground, would try
to like, you know, I don't.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Think he's planning on doing any of that.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I think he's willing to walk out of here with
a full blown case of CTE. Yeah, this is his
last What we need to do not not get the
people they want.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Definitely one of my favorites of all time.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
It's gonna be sad to watch it. Put those gloves
down for sure. I honestly like, I don't even want
to put a pick in this one. I think I've
been siding with everybody else that has been saying the
same thing. I want them to go in. I want
Bruce Buffer to give the announcement. I want them to fight.
Are you ready? Fight? You ready?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
They go up, they give each other a nice, warm hug,
and they just walk out.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
I don't want to see none else because it's just like, yo,
it's two it's two of your it's two of the favorites,
like somebody has to lose.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I don't know if we get a three hundred where
it's like last minute buzzer beat or knockout. I honestly
don't even know if we get I don't know if
we get a finish in this fight. I think the
low key I can see a decision war. It's five rounds,
it's five rounds, just slugging it bo.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
I don't know, man, five rounds decision.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Here's the thing is that now that we've seen Max
Holloway get knocked out, now we know it can happen.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
I mean, you don't believe something can happen until it happens.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
So now I have this vision of Dustin knocking them out.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
I want it his way out. I wanted to be
the thing. I want him to have the belt wrapped
around his race. But at the same time, I also
know that Maxtill has a career left in this bitch.
I don't want him to just get thrown on the wayside.
And now he's got knocked out twice in a row.
So it's tricky.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Man.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I feel like I want this in to win, for
this the story of it all. You know, walk walk
out with a belt around your waist. It's not the
one you want it necessarily, but it's the one you're
willing to take.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
But I also know it's weird. I don't want to
see Max go down for it.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
You feel me? You really got to pick with two
your two favorites, bro, Like which parent do you want gone?

Speaker 3 (56:31):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
You're like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Why do I just see that in the show where
a parent had to pick which kid was gonna we.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Don't got to get into situation.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
That's kind of what it feels like right now.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
It's like which kid do you love?

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Like I have to pick a toub the kid finds
out finds out like mom, you picked?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
I need to know what showed? This is nuts about cameras.
Cameras I got into I got into this, like this
whole thing in my head about like thinking about this
fight where I'm just like, wow, this is really one
of those situations where like I knew it was gonna
happen when Max moved up to one fifty five, were
like we got excited over all the potential matchups. But
then you really sit down and think about it, there's
a lot of people that you're like, man, I'd like

(57:09):
both of these guys, like the Max versus Dustin, the
Max versus Charles, the Max versus Justin Gay Cheese. Such
a good division. It's such one fifty five has always
been a good one for like, at least the time
that I've been watching the sport, one fifty five has
been the one like that has been the ones.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
The most like skilled, but it's also the most they
can still like have that power.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Like there's a lot that a lot of a lot
of fighters in there, of name, which is also a
big part of it. Like you can go one through ten,
you're like, well, it's stacked. All the other ones are
like it's a handful, and then like I'll say, like
when you move up and wait, obviously it kind of
falls off a little bit. But there's also like ones
with like I don't know, man, like I'd say, like
one fifty five and one seventy you are probably the

(57:49):
most stacked, and then like one five. I think there's
like a few names in there in the top like
three or four.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
That you really care about.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Obviously you have Volkanovski, but like, yeah, I don't know
if you pulled random person off the street and this
is no shade and you were like, do you know
who a Yaya Rodriguez is? You know what I mean?
But like I would the box that what I'm saying,
Like I would side, I would say, like more if
you're not like an obviously, like if you're not heavy
and an MMA fan or whatever like that, you're gonna

(58:18):
know more. Casual people are gonna know names you list
off in the one fifty five division, you would anybody else,
Like lightweight is that division? That's that's their poster child.
I would argue, for the most part, you get focused
in on other people. But like, eh, but I just
I don't know how this one goes out, man, I
don't know. I wanted to be Dustin. I feel like
that's kind of like where I lean forward for the story.
But at the same time, I also know that that

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would mean Max is now lost two trilogies and then
also would then have lost twice in a row, right, yeah,
one via Knakau one by whatever is going to happen
in this one. Now, it's not a blemish like super Bad,
because obviously it's like who he's fighting and everything like that,

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but it is a thing of like, all right, where
do we go from here?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (59:02):
There was there was a moment we were thinking Max
versus Islam, and then he wanted to move back down
and you know, he had that meeting with Ilia and
now he's back up to one fifty five, so it's like,
all right, does he work his way up to the
one fifty five belt and again has to fight Ilia?

Speaker 3 (59:13):
But then it was who did he go up against next?
You know, So it's yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
With a loss to it, especially if it's a loss,
it's like, I don't know, man, he's one of those
dudes that I think he will fight anybody, but you
also want to see him fight against big names.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
So it's a little weird on that one.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
I don't know if if that was the case, who
does Max Holloway?

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Oh yeah, it's like you don't want to speak it
into existing. Yeah yeah, I don't want to say this
out loud, but I don't know, man, you go as
a future after it's Max at five Dustin at six,
you could do if he loses, you put him against
Dan Hooker.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
That's the fight you make. That's a good fight, that's
the fight you make.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Yeah. Yeah, Immediately I looked at that name of like,
if he wins, if he wins Max versus Charles, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
if he wins Max versus Charles, because Max at five,
maxis and Gachia four, Charles Olvera at three, arm and
Serouki and at two Islam.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
At one Gill is the titleler.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
But Isam doesn't necessarily count because he's over here trying
to fight at one seventy. So I feel like kind
of like an empty space there that his name is there,
but it's not really there.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
I think that because he hasn't gone up yet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I think with the loss Dan Hooker, with a win,
Charles Olavera, him and Justin know. Justin's also calling for
a title shot, so I don't know if that necessarily
comes through.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
What does Justin get.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I don't know, man, he's over here doing something. Bro.
I don't. I don't know a Serookian got played again.
Ilia literally called him out everything, but by name was
like Paddy Pimblet. Yeah, that was crazy. I was at
TV like what I was so confused too. He brought
up the back injury and everything and he was still

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just like Patty Pimblet.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
If you do and he's still getting out of ONO,
it's hard to sit here and argue that this ship
is not like the w w EE when they put
it right in your face and they're like trying my
best here, but you are making it difficult when you
do ship like that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Joe Rogan, Yeah, it's tricky.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
I feel like I would see him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
We're gonna lose. Max still got a couple of big
fights in there, but I definitely don't want to see
him go out bad obviously, but I do want to
see Dustin go out on a big win and you
know what I mean, feeling great and just knowing that
he's good. But at the same time, though, part of
me feels like with that dude gets too good of
a win, he's not gonna want to walk away.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
That's what That's what I was thinking too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
A part of me is like, Bro, I can't give
him too much because I feel he's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
Gonna be like I might as well. A second, I'm
still good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Because he said it. He said that he doesn't want
the game to finish him. He wants to be able
to be done with the game. And I respect that
a whole lot. But I will tell you right now,
he's gonna get that itch. He's gonna get that wins this.
Does he get a titus? No, I would say of
entertainment wise, people will be like, fuck it, like Dustin

(01:01:56):
versus Ilia. He's got a shot, Bro, that dope got
He's got a shot. I will tell you right now,
I think Eliot would still be that confident dude. That's
be like, I'm gonna knock him out. But I also
know Ilio knows he's got that other gun behind him.
That's like, I'm gonna just wrestle you, bro, like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
I seen the path to victory, I'm gonna take it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
I think he retires either which way.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yeah, maybe he'll pick up some like boxing, exhibition fights
or something like that afterwards all these new guys coming in,
but he don't really care. Bro. We saw him fight
the BSDs like he doesn't really care, Bro, he really
is with it. Like he's like, obviously money title shots,
that's the name of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
But he's a dog.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
He's willing to scrap whoever it may be. He's willing
to go in there, and he's willing to leave it
all in that octagon and walk out winning the draw.
At least he gave everything he did. I think with Dustin, though,
I'd rather him fully retire, fully step away. I hate
the whole shit of like I'm gonna retire and then
immediately come back. I think it's stupid do it too much.

(01:02:58):
Like although kind of upset me with it, I think
with me it's just more so Dustin, go out there,
give it everything you you physically have in you, and
then after that put those gloves down and you just
walk out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Legend Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Like at this point, like Hall of Fame for sure,
I know that the goat talk and whatever is not
going to be there, but goat for the b mf us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
You know what I'm saying, Like all.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Time is not it's only gonna be one you can
not everybody can be that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
And I'll tell you right now, some of the most
exciting fights I've seen in the UFC have been with him,
the Connor mcgregord trilogy. You have him versus kabebe him
versus Islam, him and Justin. I think this him versus
Max for the third time, that was gonna be a scrap. Obviously,
you watch, you go back and you watch the first two.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
They're really good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Him versus Dan Hooker pops up on my feet at
least once a week. That's one that you can'tnot skip
that You just it's apex, no crowd. You hear all
the thudds. It's so good. I think Dan Hooker is
another dude that should fight for a BMF title, But
I think it's gonna be gone by the time you
get Yeah, but that'd be a good one too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
I think it's gonna be a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Good card overall. Like I said, a lot of these fights,
there's gonna be some names that people aren't gonna really know.
I feel like I'm just gonna go down real quick.
I think I got Dustin beating Max. I got Roman
copy Loft beating Paulo Costa, just because that dude's been
nowhere but Twitter. I swear to God, get him out
of here, send him to the PF.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
Since I got hip to Paulo a Costa, Paulo Costa,
I haven't seen anything good in the ring from him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
It's all been really I missed his He is the
funniest Twitter follow in the mm A space for the
longest time. I feel like now though, with the with
the wins kind of disappearing. I peope really cares too
much about it. He was funny, but now it's just like,
go over there. I got Kevin Holland beating Daniel Rodriguez. Listen,
Dee rod is really good in like certain scraps, but

(01:04:58):
I feel like Kevin Holland's just too well rounded. Kevin.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Kevin Holland is lock in. He's just super experienced still Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Excuse me, he's he's twenty eight and thirteen right now.
That dude has had all the fights.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
Bro, Like, I think he and the craziest probably is
just off the last one contest, Okay, I feel like
he is still improving.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Yeah, well, that's why we have this conversation all the
time when it comes to with his We see his
name at least once a month because he fights all
the time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Yeah, he's got to lock in, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
I understand that it's price fighting. You're just trying to
get that check and walk in. But bro, we see
there is greatness in him. Yeah, there is a level
of like the.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
Past couple of fights where he's he's so good, he's
so good, like you see it shine, where you're like, man,
he just like really was just like, Hi, I'm out
here for like legendary shit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
You see a title shot there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Bro, he's goods aid if he just locks in.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
He's an exciting character to in a way where sure,
well you could probably sell a good fight with him
as a.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
The trash talking alone. And he also has a confidence
and stuff like that. Granted, he's got like confidence in
the sense of like he's gonna be like, oh, I'm
gonna going there and we're gonna scrap and go see
what's up. But he's not gonna be like Ilia where
he's like I'm gonna go take you and do whatever.
But like, this is definitely gonna be like I'm gonna
go in there, I'm gonna show you at all. Bro,
You're gonna you're gonna see who's coming up. On top
of that, he'll give you like that kind of talk.
But I definitely think that for him, it's more so

(01:06:21):
the chirping, but the random ship that he'd be saying
is really funny.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
The clip of him and Rampage Jackson going back and forth.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Yeah, he talking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
I think I'm pretty sure he was alluding to yeah, yeah,
on another part maybe, but he definitely definitely hid been Rampage.
I think that they're lucky that table was right there.
I think that there would have been some other words
said and some things done, but we'll see how that goes.
I think with him, it's just like he's entertaining. He's
a great fighter in my opinion, in the sense of

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like he will always give you a show. Obviously he
has moments where gets ragged all by Hamza, but like
you get yeah, but he does cool stuff, like, for example,
when he's fighting wonder Boy and he's like, no takedowns,
we're gonna stay here, We're gonna scrap.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Like that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
I mean, he's exciting to the fans. Danny gave versus
Patricio Pipple. I got Danny gain this one. I think
Patricio Pipple.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Shout out to him. In his career.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I never really watched any of his fights and The
only one I've really seen was like him versus Michael Chandler,
just on the older side.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Obviously a pick up from Bellatore. I think he's a
good fighter, but I I don't know. I think I
have seen it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
It's a different caliber that I've been seen in the UFC. Again,
a lot of guys.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
It's a lot of people that come into the UFC
that haven't impressed me yet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
No, and then when they come over it it's like
you don't really see you don't really see anybody that
like pops in from another organization and they're like killing people.
Like I would say, like Michael Chandler had a really
cool debut, but then after that kind of feels a
doubt kind of went away. Who else exactly? Who else?

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
If anything, you hear it the other way around.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
You hear former UFC fighters going over to PFL or
whatever it might be and then doing great things.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Kayla Harrison is one, but we all kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Expected that, to be fair. I feel like with her
it was a little different. I think if she had
popped up when Amanda was still at her peak, we
would have seen we would have seen it happen to
her too. I think she would have. I think that
that would have been the person she wouldn't able to beat.
But I think she came in at a good time.
She had a good path to victory. Not gonna say

(01:08:23):
he was handed to her, but she definitely like didn't
really have a crazy opposition for me, an older Holly Holme,
Julianna Penna, no shade, but it is what it is. Right,
we're going Stafford stat here, Michael Johnson versus Daniel zell Huber.
That one's going to be a scrap, right, I'll tell
you right now, bro, I don't know who I got

(01:08:43):
in that one. I don't know. Michael Johnson is one
of those I'm gonnack you out. I'm gonna get knocked out.
I love those guys because it's like you know, either
which way you're gonna get a great fight. And then
Daniel Zelhuber is a great striker. I don't know if
you remember the yeah we.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Did the no no, no, no no. I think he's
something else. I don't think he's Mexican.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I mean, see you, Golden boy. But he was the
one that like we watched like the notes of UFC
card and we were both just like who is this dude, bro?
Because he has great actually his Mexican, great striking dynamic.
If you want to see the spinning kicks and things
like that, that's somebody you want.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
To win for for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
I did. Like I said, I if you're a fan
of the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
If you're a if you're a fan of the sport,
there are a lot of really cool names on here,
and a lot of fights you know are gonna be great.
I'm gonna tell everybody here, it's not the best attractive
looking pay per view on on like when you're looking
at the names, if you don't really know who these
people are.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
But if you tune in again, watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
How you gonna watch it?

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Yeah, I've watching how I'm gonna watch it. Y'all watch
how y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Gonna watch Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Whatever that may mean to you personally, it's gonna be
a great fight. I think it's gonna be a good fight.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I think it's gonna be a great card. I think
it's weird because.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
It's like like I said, it's like a fight night,
but it's not, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's
a little bit more on that. I think for the
most part, it's gonna feel like a fight night until
that last one when I hear I'm a trigue.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Now he's gonna do the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
He's gonna walk out to sham bright like a diamond,
and then it's gonna turn into you, I mean James Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
But we'll see, man, don't I don't want to retire.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
It's hard, like you don't want to see if you
want to see it like it's it's it's tricky when
it comes to Dustin Man, it's like for me. At
this point, I think he's got a good head on
his shoulders. I think he's so far it looks like
he's managed to go for the most part unscathed. Like
I haven't really heard any crazy injuries from him. He
got them McGregor money, He's got his own businesses now
you see them in commercials recently to saying he's in

(01:10:34):
almost every bud Light and w Hoes inquible commercial. The
use he got.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
At this point, I think he's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Doing all right, and I want to see him just
kind of right off into the sunset and be happy. Obviously,
I think he'll get that itch here and there, but
I don't know. I can see him holding a microphone.
I can see him doing that too. I mean, I
think he's gonna be one of those guys in the US.
He gives an opportunity to to like come back to
the desk appterwards for sure, and just kind of keep
working with them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
So that'd be cool to see. I love when they
do that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
It's like a way to keep the fighters still involved,
especially when they're like fan favorites and such.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
And he's got good insight for the most part.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
The times where I've seen him on the he hasn't
been like obviously like an announcer, but he's on like
the commentator desks that are in like the back of
the studios and whatnot, and when they break down some
of the fights. He has good perspective in the sense
of like it's one thing like obviously, you're a fighter,
you know what the hell you're doing, but like, can
you then translate it to me who don't know, Yeah, yeah,
let's see how you do. Sometimes I listen to people
and I'm like, I have no idea what he said,
but he said it's so great. It's cool, but just

(01:11:32):
a little it's a little bit. It's a little bit
that's why I like when DC be writing now on
all kinds of notes on the on the page, but
at the same time, like DC like will do very
insightful tips and also very good breakdowns and in the
same breath be like, this is what you don't want
to do in front of Derek Lewis, lay down shit
DC talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Uh so it's funny, but like, definitely I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
I like when they're people that you can they give
him a shot and they do well enough to like
kind of translate what going on to us as the audience.
You you like him, and you also like that person
as a character. You want to see that going. It's
like why Anthony Smith I love him behind the desk
in the Octagon on so much.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Behind that desk though Anthony Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Is great, Yeah he's perfect, but Dominic Cruz does a
great job. Paul Felder, Like, I watched that man retire and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
He's out here doing his good thing. What you blanking
on Paul Felder?

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
No, Paul Felder, doesn't he have a fight coming up?

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
God, didn't he just have a fight? No?

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
He retired like a few years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Where did I just hear Paul Felder and he.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Might be fighting somebody in a target parking lot, but
I don't know. I don't think he. I don't think
you got a fight out at any time.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
So it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I was watching and it was really off topic. Yeah,
I know he's in this episode, but it's always funny
to me when it pops up. He's in an episode
of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is when he's young.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Who Paul Felder to see him now in the suit
versus seeing him then? Who he's playing himself as the
UFC fighter. Paul Felder, You're like, bro, this dude is yacked.
It's crazy the difference, like once they stop, it's not
letting themselves go, but it's just a different type of
like athletic build.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
I guess they go for like with him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
I think he does like bike riding and ship now,
so he slimmed down obviously you see them then you're like, bro,
these are two different people. What you're trying to tell
me right now? It's like d C d C. You
see light heavyweight DC versus heavyweight DC DC the commentator.
Now you're like Jesus the same, see what happened? But
you know what I mean it's it's so funny to
be bro. But I hope, I hope that this fight
just brings the best out of both fighters. I hope

(01:13:28):
that it's nothing but respect. I know it will be.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
I do think if it does make it to the
fifth round, we get yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
You have to you get you get right here, you
get that moment, you get them both in the center,
and we see what happens from there. I think if
it ends beforehand, God, I don't know who I got
money on, bro, but I feel like it's Dustin. Yeah,
off the strength of For me, it's mainly off the
strength of Max just cutting down a forty five and
then having to come back up and then also just

(01:13:58):
get knocked out. I gotta lean more towards us.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
We're gonna give the educated.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Guests pointed pointing it in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
That's stupid that I know it's stupid, but it's kind
of just like, do you think that was like a
little foreshadowing of what was about to have this?

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
I think that that was him saying, if you think
you're this, if you think you're that, guy showed me right.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Away you just no need to wait for Is that
like a small mental.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
All that all that stuff is like it's like little
nuggets they're putting in. It's even In fact, I think
anything you do like that to play as best of
mind game as you can, it's gonna affect the fighters
in some way, shape or form. So I feel like
they do a good job at that. And the pointing
right away thing, I think that that's also like a
little bit of a thing to get into his head
a little bit. But I don't know, man, I feel
like these fighters are so interesting when they do stuff

(01:14:42):
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
It's like a Derek Lewis.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
We keep bringing it back to him, shout Derek Luis,
him faking being injured in the fight. Ye stupid ship
like that where he's like they get a little clean regular.
It's so funny, me bro. But to be fair, it
gets into people's heads. We were talking about him earlier,
Kevin Holland. Kevin Holland be talking to people during the fights,

(01:15:06):
and I really do think it throws them off their
game a little bit because it's not like it's not like,
oh you're tough, you got me. It's not like like
shit talking. It's like you got a little booger in
your nose. You just get that, like when he did
with Buckley. It's my favorite edit because it's not how
the fight fully happened, but it's him going, you got
a booger in your nose and and Buckley goes to
wipe it away. He's a good man. And then it

(01:15:28):
just cuts to the part where Kevin just dropped. You're like,
that's not how it happened, but boy, that is really funny.
But it's moments like that where you're like, they just
you know, you gotta be locked.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
In because it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Gets the little uh yeah, bro, I feel like.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Even like that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Like also, they don't like when like people in their
corner and people like yelling at them and shit like that,
because they're like, just let them focus on what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
But you don't never know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
But at the same time, the fighters are gonna play
their mind games, are gonna do their thing. It's like
John Jones, that's a big thing. People are like, no,
just John Joe and mind games. Even to this day
with the whole him and Tom, people think this is
him playing mind games with Tom.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
I don't know how true that is, but who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
That's funny like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Pulls back up for the for the UFC White House Fight.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
So he he did go back into testing for that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
So the moment that day he said he's done, he's retired,
there was a whole week of people being like, it's over, John,
It's gone. Then we have Donald Trump. It's like, so
UFC in the White House baby, July fourth, twenty twenty six.
This is what I was looking for, John Jones. Immediately,
I'm gonna go right back into testing, bro, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
All he wants the legacy fights that like, give him
some cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Bro, you have him versus Tom aspinall. I feel like
you gotta stack it heavy with like US fighters. So
that's a little tricky. I feel like I feel like
Dustin versus Max BMF title at the White House July fourth,
with a bid of the bigger of that would have
been a bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Of a fight to have there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Louisiana versus Hawaii.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Who got who got the money on that one?

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Bro? That's that's the crazy one. To you start doing that,
you have to be from the US to be on
that card. I feel like you got out, you know
what I mean, because it's it's the thing is like,
there's so many. I was having this conversation at work
the other day where I was like, Bro, listen, there's
so many good fights. There's so many good fighters, and boy,
are most of them not from here? So crazy? It's
so crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Lewis h Yeah, that study He'll lately.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Shout out to Ricky. Ricky went to the Nashville Card.
Ricky was telling me that he is. He was like,
I feel like I'm in the wrong area. And I
was like, I was like, what do you mean by that?
He's like, Bro, every time anybody brown that wasn't from
the US got hit, they were cheering crazy. Oh man,
I don't know what to tell you about that. Just
duck and hide. Put put a blanket of yourself. I
don't know. But they was like, yeah, they were chanting,

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you say heavy. They really weren't liking any time anybody
from another place was winning, even with who was it, Uh,
who did Wonder Boy fight Wonder Boy? Get it right?
It was him versus Yeah, Gabrielle bonb theme Brazilian. Okay,

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they would be in like the clinch up against the
fence and if it was Bond theme on the like
the power position. Immediately flipped. It was just like back
and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and they
just kept doing the like the swap. Like I don't know, man,
people are funny, but I definitely think that like if
you're gonna do something like that, isn't the same way

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of like they were gonna honor like the way they
do the NotI you UFC, or if they were gonna
do something similar for Brazil, who has had like such
an influenced radio C. They need to do something for Brazil.
Brazil needs to like and they go down there and
they stack them with Brazilian fighters, but they need to
have like something like that for Brazil dedicated for that,
like the history of Yeah, I mean to be fair,

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I understand because like the sphere and everything like that,
but like so obviously it's here in the US, but
they did it for Mexico, So why not get the
sphere and this time one for like Brazil. I mean, also,
do you I think that those are the too obviously US,
I think US, Mexico and Brazil seem to have the
most influenced for the UFC. Now we're getting like Russia
and things like that are trying to pop up. But
I would argue, like, I think that you'd have to

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do a little bit of a look through. But I
think there's most nationality wise, I think it's Brazilian. I
think it's the heavy presence at the most part.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
I think Russian since the beginning too, since the Gracies
late the groundwork for.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
This, Like yeah, and you see multiple different styles. It's
not just jiu jitsu, so like, I feel like you
got to show them some respects, love, just some stuff
over there, the same way they're about to have this
Fourth of July stuff. I feel like it'd be cool
to see that kind of like represented a little bit more.
But man, we ain't got no American champions.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
We got I'm surprised there's nobody from Thailand, like more Thai.
Like I think that there's a couple of people that
like people to go to Thailand and train boy Thie.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
But you know what it is is that the ones
that training on we tie that usually. I feel like,
stay within we time. You'll see them in like one
championship and stuff like that, but you don't see them
come over because the thing is you have to remember
it's mixed Marshall, you gotta learn a whole other set
of ship. Yeah, because like those stand those stand up
strikers only do so well and then the moment they
go up against a wrestler, it's over.

Speaker 6 (01:20:08):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
It's it's so funny. Bro. It's like it's like that
meme with uh with moy connoll. They show him like
him on the mic. He goes, I don't want hard fights.
I want easy fights, bro, this guy, easy fight, this guy,
easy fight. All these guys give me easy fights. I
want easy money.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Next fight him versus Islam.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
I got You're like sending the Grim Reaper to come
here clean up. But it's so funny to be bro.
You gotta do your best here you can. All right, guys,
I think we've I think we've ran out of time here,
Not really, but I think we've tied you enough.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
So UFC three eighteen is this week, and yes, I
will be publishing this episode as soon as I can. Uh,
thank you guys for watching. Obviously, like, share, comment, subscribe. Uh,
let's get those followers up. We're on Instagram, Twitter, I'm
not making a Facebook. I should probably make a TikTok.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
We're on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Let's see, let's see what else?

Speaker 6 (01:21:01):
What else Spy Spotify, Apple Podcast Now for shout out,
shout out eight oh six to show shout out nerd Gods,
shout out of Vibe Entertainment, Let's see, let's see big
shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
And I want to give this as a public message
to everybody in the Grandmother, whether you are casually watching this,
if you are deeply involved in this, if you love
the sport, if you don't know anything about it, everybody
in the Grandmother, go show love and support to Ben Askren.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Yeah, double lung transplant. Created four times and is still going.
He's getting better. He's releasing videos as he's going through it.
MMA legend. I know that he hasn't had the best
record or whatever. When you look it up. Most likely
now when you type in his name, it'll be his
medical issues. I know before that it was the flying

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knee with Jorge Masvidoal it might be the thing you
remember him for. But you got to show love to
a warrior like that, bro. He thought, Jake Paul, Right,
he thought, Jake Paul, You just like you never want
to see somebody put in a position like that where,
like you know, out of nowhere, they just had this
insane medical condition, So like, just go show love and
support to him, whatever, just anything, just good. Write him
a nice message, give him likes on his post, anything

(01:22:11):
you can to. Just show that you support him and
you love him.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Bro, the progress he made in three days, there's nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
It's the weight he gained in those three days is insane.
You look like a skeleton the first time I saw
him post. So now he's looking a lot healthier, and
I'm happy to see it. So shout out to Ben Askrin,
let's see, let's see. Shout out to Gabe behind the
computer right now doing this thing on the ones and
twos and other than that, Shout out Justin for fighting
the good fight.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Hopefully we see you soon.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
You feel me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Hey, not all heroes wear capes, but he sure does.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Bro, He definitely does. He definitely does keeps us safe.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
He definitely yo. Watch out Broy. Right now Justin is
on a roof making sure your children are safe.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
You guys, thank him? Yeah, right, Cape Crusader.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Anyway, guys, this has been another episode about it to
get an MMA, I'm your host of the most wander Brands.
This has been rgn iman out of the world.

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