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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome everybody to another episode of an educated MMA. I'm
your host with the most wonder and of course I'm
joined here by the beat math champion up the world,
horry to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hell yeah, another episode of educated MMA.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You have to say it. You were like, I'm an
educated and I'm watching MMA and you're watching and educated
at logan at the bottom. I'm t shirt, So that
ship would be real funny. Yeah, man, welcome back guys
to another episode. This is gonna be a good one.
We got some breaking news of news from the ufcuh,
(00:56):
some big exciting stuff to do with Brandy. Let's see
where they're where. They're now going to be showing the
UFC fights, Let's see what else, what else, distribution, it's
going to be shaking up the landscape, big shake and
the pay per views. I hear, yeah, that's that's the
word going around town. Man. So this is this is
kind of let's get into this because I feel like
(01:17):
it's crazy to me that I feel like so UFC
three nineteen is this weekend, and I feel like this
news immediately overshadowed all of it. Like I feel like
I immediately stop seeing anybody post anything about DDP or
homs out or anything like that. I don't see none
of that. But yeah, let's just get right into the
breaking news when it comes to this, so uh preaking news.
(01:38):
The UFC have signed a seven point seven billion with
a B dollar deal with Paramount Plus to stream their
events exclusively through them for the next seven years. So
that's one point one billion dollars per year. Yeah what
(01:59):
what that's insane? Bro? Shout out tell them getting that bag.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I seen something where he like started, like he
paid Speke TV ten million dollars just to start.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's like you went from.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Ten millions flipping it, flipping that seven point seven billion.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, they're they're getting paid crazy, and I will say
it like everybody else is. And the fighters still like it. Yeah, right,
makes no sense. What can we we negotiate? What contrary? Bro?
I think that this is going to be the most
interesting part about the whole thing, because like it's crazy
when you know how much the company is making that
you feel like you're going to be like all right,
so I get I get some of that, right, And
(02:37):
they're like, nah, nah, none of that, what you mean
we just tripled that. Even they're like we who's this
Wii motherfuckers? It just like you just hear bro I
got paid put on a show, noct you know what
you do because that's a that's a part of it. Right.
So now with them moving over to this whole style,
(02:57):
like you said, pay per view apparently is dead. So
a lot of the big name fighters and a lot
of the champions, if not all of the champions, they
get pay per view points. So now do they change
their contracts? Do they get like a like a cut,
do they get a percentage? Is it like the amount
of streams they get? Do you get a portion of
that like or do they just up like their regular pay?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I guess like that. I think I've seen Dana say something.
It could have been a fake page too, but it
was saying that, like certain superstars will get different like
individual pay per view kind of things.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I could see that that makes sense, I feel like.
I mean, even now, they probably all have like a
different percentage when it comes to pay per view points.
So it would make sense for depending on how much
of a draw you are, how much bread you bring
to the table, they're going to give you x amount.
You know what I'm saying. I do feel that. I
think there's gonna be a lot of renegotiating that goes on.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm gonna be honest with you. With the lower level fighters,
I don't think that they're gonna get any sort of
a bigger cut. But at least with the champions and
like the big names that they have that have been
around for a while, they'll get a different cut.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I see Michael Chandler talk about it if.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
He don't Bro. The moment I saw him, I think
the Paramount shirt already, I was like this, this guy
is killing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
To try to keep a job out there.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
He's like, please, please don't let me go. I have
nowhere else to go.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Please Bro. Like he was just like supported that.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
AI. Everybody just needs to be patient.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Everybody is right away like trying to get renegotiate their
contracts without letting the dust settle and all this extra stuff.
And I'm thinking, like, Bro, shut up.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, they just got seven point seven bill. This is
moy Kano not taking the money. Yeah, it's like, Bro,
what are you doing do you talk about? You gotta
like company man, my ass. Bro, Like get out of here,
like take your check and keep it walking, especially with
when it comes to Michael Chandler, like you are in
no position right now like to be No, it's not
anti UFC obviously, but at the same time, yeah, like
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just you know, keep keep it coming to yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, it's just very supportive of I think they're doing great.
I think they're being uh with the way they pay us,
except the fuck up bro, No they don't.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, I think it's just like starving out here. Bro.
That's how you see them take fights on short notice.
It's just like, what are you doing? And it's just
like I need to get paid the rent is still
doing rest.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Of imagine that, like really imagine that like that lifestyle
where like the rent being paid is due, like you
have to fight.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
When you scrapping somebody. Yeah, that's why I'm enamored by this.
This is the greatest sport of all time. That's what
they do. It's like literal survival talk. I was talking
about this. I was talking about this earlier where I
was saying that, like they are UFC fighters that have
regular nine to five jobs with also training and fighting
in the UFC, which is insane to me because like
your coworker that got that weird ear is over here,
(05:45):
knocking people out and getting knocked out on weekends just
to attempt to get to the UFC. I'd be exhausted.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, after a day of like training and like nine
to five talk.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
There's there's been guys that are like does it iron workers?
There were like one of them recently was a welder.
He just quit his job. There's been the one guy
that worked at a Texas roadhouse where he was fighting
in the UFC. Like, imagine you're working your server shift
a Texas roadhouse and then you got to go hit
the mats afterwards and you got to fight up coming
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this weekend. Imagine you lose, and then you got to
serve the team that beat you. Like the guy sitting
there and he doesn't give you a tip, he's like one,
there's no tip, you're that bad Texas roadhouse? Yeah, sponsored
the PUD. Yeah. I just I feel like this is
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going to be an interesting setup for them to see
who gets paid more and how that setup is going
to be. I feel like this opens up an opportunity.
I mean, I know that they're gonna let us down again,
but hopefully they all negotiate for higher pay. You know
what I'm saying. I know that they definitely won't unionize
or anything like that. I feel like it's really hard
to get these fighters to like band together to be
like we should all get paid more. No, right, But
(06:59):
apparently not from all the other analysts that I've seen
talk about it recently when it because everybody in the
grandmother is doing a pot on this. There is a
part of it where you can compare it now to
other professional sports in the sense of, like now the
broadcasting is on the same kind of level, especially because
they're going to be on not only paramoun Plus, but
they're also going to be on CBS has grown so much.
(07:20):
So like I don't know if you if you know this,
because I don't. I don't know the answer to this either.
But apparently, like for example, like in the NBA, like
the players get like a good percentage of like the
revenue that comes from the broadcast deals. Yeah, the UFC
fighters aren't going to see any of that. So do
you think that they'll be able to like renegotiate to
get at least a piece of the pie of that,
Because this is this is he's going to say it.
They have already I think more than doubled their amount
(07:43):
of money they were getting per year as an organization
by the making this deal. So like the fighters don't
see any of that. That's crazy, I know, right, it's
like the how cheap, very very super even.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's gonna be a weird time, I guess, like shout
out to like the I know the CERN fight is
about to get fucking paid though.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh facts, I hope so bro you know, like like
so the ones that are on ice right now because
this doesn't start until the beginning of next year twenty
twenty six, just in case, depending on when you're watching this,
that is going to be like the Iliotaporious unless he
fights in like December and whatnot. Like those guys they're
gonna eat off of that. I feel like that because
I like I do think they're gonna get some sort
(08:29):
of incentive to be or I guess that's part of
being the champion is that you get paid very different.
So there's gotta be some sort of like compensation that's
equal to the pay per viewpoints. And like I said,
it's either gonna be your overall pay like the entry
and the win money is going to be a lot more,
or there's gonna be some sort of percentage off of
like streams for that that day or something like that,
(08:50):
because like I don't know, man, Like, do you think
that there'll be people that are gonna subscribe to Paramount
plus just to watch that day? I think in general,
I think people will just have it.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I think people will get Paramount plus plus to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You or seeing in general. That's what I'm saying, Like
you would just have it, you would just subscribe to it,
because how many.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Kind of weird because they like they're a child is kind.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Of they're trying to get into sports man, They're.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Very like Nickelodeon stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So, you know how like sometimes when something gets bought
by Disney, it kind of gets a little To be.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Fair, I've been watching ESPN Plus through Disney Plus this entirely. Yeah,
so while it's continue watching uh this fight night, I
got Star Wars the Clone Wars right next to it,
and then one episode of Coco Mela and I had
to watch after watching Weapons when I got home. Other
than that, you know what I'm saying, Like, I feel
like it doesn't make it's nothing different to me, especially nowadays,
(09:46):
Like I guess it's all your algorithm based, But after
a while, I feel like they kind of stopped showing
you that stuff and they just show you whatever you're
watching now. I'm not gonna hate if you're watching these
children's animated TV shows. You know what I'm saying. Everybody
loves like chowder, you know what I'm saying. Okay, Okay,
the Amazing World of Gumball.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I was watching Ninja Turtles, Solid Show, Solid Bro, the
one for the two thousand son Early.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You've been getting into like random nostalgic Transformers and now
TML I.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Tap into because you know, when we were younger, we
saw all of this shit. We saw all this shit
fuckings like random episode.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah you never saw it one by half yeahah.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
When you like watch, when you go back and you
understand it, it's like, oh that.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
There was a story behind it. Yeah yeah yeah, and
actually I get that. I totally get that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh I didn't understand any of this. I just thought
it was cool because it was fighting.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah. No, I felt like a part of me did
that for a bit. I went through and watched most
of the Power Ranger shows that I watched Netflix Netflix
when I was when I like, I think it was
like when it first came out or like roughly when
it got popular, I want to say, around like twenty thirteen,
twenty fourteen or something like that. They had almost all
of them, like that was for whatever reason. One of
(10:54):
their library was just all Power Ranger everything, and I
just went through show by show by show by show.
They also did not have like you did not have
to tune in every episode to get the story. There
was a lot of filler they were. They're very like
anime ish in now, where they're like, yeah, there's story,
but we're also going to give you like four episodes
in between that just have nothing to do with anything,
but we want to make this character cool for some reason.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You do.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It's fine, it's fun. But I think that Paramount plus
is just like looking to change the way that they're
braining themselves. Is also with like getting the UFC upon this.
It's going to be I believe, a total of thirteen.
It's no longer going to be called pay per views.
I heard the term earlier. WWE uses this term a lot.
(11:40):
What is it pl E, I think is what it
is premium live event. So that's what it will be.
It won't be pay per views anymore. It'll be a
premium live event something along those lines, and they'll have
thirteen of them the same way that they have now,
and those will be the numbered cards, so like three
twenty two, three twenty three through twenty four, those will
be the premium live events. And then they're going to
have let me say, I think I have it here
(12:01):
in my notes, they're gonna have about thirty fight nights
that are gonna be spread out throughout the year. Same
thing on Paramount Plus. But then I've been getting some
weird mix of numbers so I don't know what the
true number is here. I heard four events on CBS,
and then I also heard that they're gonna just mirror
Paramount Plus on CBS, so if you have CBS, you'll
(12:23):
be able to get a lot of the fight nights anyway,
So I don't know if that means that like cable. Yeah,
I don't know if it's what that is the way
I said it, where it's like they're only gonna have
four or they're gonna have a bunch, or if that
means they're gonna have a bunch, and then they're gonna
have four of the numbered ones that you're also gonna
be able to watch on CBS. I think that that's
a better move personally, if you want to have fans
(12:44):
tune in to watch the UFC. You get the big
name stars that you're already branding like crazy, which will
be on the on the premium live events, and you
get them on CBS, where then you can show it
at like your local sports bar, rather than have it
hidden behind some stupid ass paywall. Like I keep complaining
all the time, it's such a pain for me to
go to go watch a fight unless I want to
go to Buffalo Wild Wingers. Who's right? Who's right? If
(13:07):
they change up, I'll entertain the sponsorship, they change up
the menu a little bit, or give your local gentlemen's clubs,
which I cannot frequent very often. Yeah, so they need
to switch it up. I want to give us the
UFC spot. Yeah, I just want to spot that has
two wings that I can go watch fights that aren't
like you know what I'm saying crazy. But yeah, I
(13:28):
think that this will change it up a lot, and
now you get more casual fans that will get into it.
And then let's say you go and there is only
four spread out throughout the year, but you're watching on
CBS a UFC pay per view and you're like, yo,
this is dope. I want to watch this a little
bit more. And you find out it's on Paramount Plus.
You pay the eight nine bucks or whatever it is
for the ad version or I think it's like thirteen
fourteen for the premium version, and you got paramun Plus.
(13:49):
You can watch all the UC events you want, and
then apparently that's it's just comes with a subscription. It's
going to be everything altogether. You don't understand how happy
I am to burn ESPN plug.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
SPN Plus sucks so bad.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Like I said earlier, I have to go through Disney
Plus to watch it because in and of itself, ESPN
Plus is such a bad like such a bad apt
to move around.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Bro b this. So I'm watching the Ultimate Fighters.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, I bet, I bet you have to do forty screens.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So yeah, I go at to find UFC first at
the find Ultimate Fighters, so Ultimate Fighters freaking four hundred seasons, yeah,
and then I have to scroll it has it of
course at the top is the most recent, so I
have to scroll all the way to the bottom, sucking
to the first. I bet I met UFC Ultimate fighter three.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Tell me tell me this right, every other streaming service
that you've used, right, they all just go, you were
just watching this right here?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, why can't you do that? You say, I came
across the continue watching is at the bottom of the screen.
If you go into you you go into your home page,
scroll all the way down and you'll find continue watching.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And it's like, why is this under all the random
NCAA Division III golf. I don't need to see that.
That's not what I'm watching. That's not what I have
you here for. Because then it sucks is that when
you're setting it up, they're like, what are your favorite sports?
And I'm like, UFC, I selected nothing else. Yeah, using
this app for one reason and one reason only. UC
They're like, all right, cool golf, tennis this time. I'm like, bro,
(15:23):
I don't care about any of this, and I don't
like that they don't continue watching. I don't like that
they don't give you recommendations based off of what you're watching. So,
for example, hey, if you notice that every single Saturday
I'm watching this, put this at the very front when
I get here on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
AI, Right, you don't even need much, just have your
AI sorted out, thank you. It just doesn't make any
sense of It's like going on the ESPN dot com page. Yeah,
it feels like when you're going through.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
That the last pay per view or the last fight
night of the year is going to be like a
celebration of like someone's past, Like I'm gonna be so
happy that they're gone. You have that, Like I even
if it crashes, just for the amount of people that
might be watching, I'm gonna be so happy to be
able to just go in Paramount plus bill ye click there.
It is because they at least do that where they'll
(16:14):
be like, oh, you continue watching, here's your thing, or
you watch these here's a recommendation on this, because like
how cool would it be to be like, all right,
you just watched a fight and it's a fighter you've
never seen before, and you just watch like a fight
night for example, that's like the main event. After it finishes,
the fight night's over, and they now give you recommendations
of like their other fights or something like that. Like
that cool? That makes sense. Yeah, I think that this
(16:37):
is going to be a move in the good direction,
like a good direction, especially like if it gets more
people involved in the sport that are more like on
the casual side of things. I'm not gonna lie to you.
It's pretty trash. To be able to watch UFC, you
have to pay for ESPN and then that'll get you
the fight nights, and then you have to then pay
extra every single month to be able to watch the
pay per views. Now, I'll tell you this, most people
(16:59):
aren't gonna do that. And I'll tell this most people
that I know they watch how they're gonna watch it? Yeah,
I'm gonna watch it. Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. You
can watch it. How you gonna watch it? That's it, bro,
That's it? Like, how are you gonna watch? You gonna
watch it? Bro? I haven't seen everybody saying goodbye to
a lot of those old faithfuls. I'm gonna tell you
right now. I don't think those old faithfuls are going
away anytime soon. Now this will be there.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I didn't like I see them meme, but I didn't
like that my old faithful was on there.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, I know right whoaa? Yeah you mean you get
too popular? You get her? So you see the name
publicly like oh you're next to the stream east ye
like you listen to they shouldn't know you like that. Yeah,
you should not be hanging out with those people. What
I'm saying, they canna get you in trouble bro. It's
it's so funny to me because it's like I I
(17:45):
think that there is this idea that it's it's gonna
kill pay per views and it's gonna be great, And
the fans definitely got a w on this one for sure,
one hundred percent I agree. But I will say there's
still a squad of people that I know are asking me,
they're asking you and everybody in the grandmother for a
password to get into what you think that that person's
not gonna watch it? How they're gonna watch it like
(18:07):
you know, Yeah, Like they're gonna they're gonna go to
the website. They're gonna go ahead, They're gonna find the street.
Bro Kabeeb himself goes bro that Russian link, Like, what
are you talking about? Like everyone in their grandmother is
gonna they're gonna still do their thing. So I don't
know exactly how many people are now gonna tune in
through Paramount Plus. I don't know how that money's gonna work.
(18:27):
I don't know if the deal is like guaranteed. I
already have it. You know what I'm saying, this is
gonna be a plus for me?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I was, wow, I'm wondering, do I let go of
my ESPN Plus?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I'm getting rid of ESPN Plus because I haven't any bundle. Well,
so that's what I think. I think that bundle is
just gonna go away. But here's another thing to go
with that though, with Disney, at least with Disney Plus.
I heard that, like Hulu is gonna go away and
it's just gonna be Disney because that's already how they
have it. So what's the y'all better change that price?
I think it's just gonna be like locked. Like so
(18:57):
if you decide that you don't want to pay for
ESPN or you don't want to pay for Hulu, those
options on there are just going to be locked and
you just can't use them unless you want to pay
for them, which honestly cool with me, That's perfect. I
found me because like on Hulu now, yeah, on Hulu now,
if you don't have live TV and you try to
go to like watch something that's only on live TV,
it tells you you can't watch it. You don't have
this type of subscription. Have it like that. That's fine.
(19:18):
That way you at least know the option is there
and if you choose to buy because you want to
watch it, it's there. But you don't have to. I'm going
to be honest with you. Ain't shit on you on
ESPN that I want to watch. There's nothing I watch
one sport, guys, there's one sport and it will say
that type.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
This is the Ultimate Fighter, that's all I've been watching
what's it called the Contender Series.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So that's what I want to know as well. When
it comes to this deal, it seems like they said,
UFC and you have all of the content, but they
only really talk about all the fights that are Fight
Nights and again premium live events. They don't talk about
the Contender Series, they don't talk about the Ultimate Fighters,
they don't talk about all these other side shows that
they do. So a part of that, I wonder are
(20:01):
they included they just didn't bring it up, or are
those available to be shopped around and maybe those will
be available on something else because they also still have
Fight Pass. So fight Pass is another monthly subscription that
this is directly from the UFC that's what you can
watch all like the jiu jitsu stuff. They have like
Road to UFC, which is like when they go to
like Asia and they get like a bunch of Asian
fighters and they get them to get like more of
(20:22):
a fan base over there to bring them over to
the US. So there's other methods that they can go
abound it. Or is Paramount just gonna be like no,
we actually do want all of it. We paid you
this much, it's gonna be all of seven seven billion.
I want them. Apparently, according to sources, Paramount plus is
worth like six point five or six point six billion dollars.
(20:42):
So they wrote them a check that they're the bigger
than what they're worth. I don't know. Hey, they got
plans man the cut. I'm here for the ride.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be a
long time. I don't know if it's gonna be an
risk out here. They we've all put it all all black. Yes, no,
there we go. So CBS wrote the check. Okay, that
makes way more scent. CBS got money Like that, CBS
got money. Well, another thing did you go with that too?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Is also they were talking they had a press conference
and they were talking with Data White about the fourth
of July UFC event. He said, live on CBS, and
that's could be crazy. I think that might be bigger
than the Super Bowl that year. I think so. I
would say, so a UFC.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Event event of the best like card that you could
possibly come up with in the yard, in the front yard.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Of the White House. Yeah, what what is it?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like the way what's the anniversary.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
To the two twenty fifth or some anniversary of America?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, it's like, bro, what else? But like to have something,
ex fighting the biggest event in the fucking.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Country, that'd be pretty big. That would be crazy. Let's see. Yeah,
two hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I feel like you never get forgotten, Like I No,
that's what I thought at the only freaking UFC event
at the White House.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'd be excited to be on the early prelim.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah yeah, I'm literally a legend now.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah. Yeah, I think that that's gonna be a big one.
I'm interested to see what they do with that, because
I don't that doesn't fall on International Fight Week, which
is usually the end of June. So are they gonna
just have two stacked back to backyards. And I would
feel a little played if I was on International Fight
Week and out on the one next, like, I feel like,
be like, put me on that one? Am I not
big enough to be on the fourth of July? The
economic has fucking fun, right, you know he's gonna end
(22:34):
up on this.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I see I see him posting more like training videos.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Get him out of it.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
He's like, Bro, don't come around here trying.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
To hit like you gotta be on that anybody cares anymore.
I feel like his fight could be announced and I'm
gonna be honest with you, he's gonna be even though
he'll get a main event, don't him second on the
on the main card. And I don't think anybody would
bad at I. I really don't think people will care that.
People would be like, oh okay, I'd be surprised if
he did that to him. I think I don't think
he needs.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
To do is squash his beef with Kobebe and go
over there for two three years, three years like he
needs to get he needs to tap out of that
uh fucking luxury living for a second.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, uh drug abusing bro. Muslim Connor would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Muslim Connor would he converts.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And everything he just comes back the same set of
the shame mustache, just the beard.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Just the beard comes back. Just the beard. Forget the mohawk,
get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, no no bald, bald, no mustache, beards and like strong.
I think he disciplined, strong, strong here and strong appear.
Yeah it's gonna be. That's a willful Connor.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think caught it like has a chance if he
really like he doesn't even have to train with kobebe
with them. But I think if he changes his whole
lifestyle again, yeah, he needs to just I want to
see clips. Are you farming in Ireland? But I you
go back to your roots and that's the only way
I feel like you have a slight chance of winning
(24:05):
a fight.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, you think the yacht living and the cheets is over.
He needs to just like tap out.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
He's like, I need to see him like fucking cutting
pieces of wood.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. In the fucking He's
just like completely now, I get what you mean, man,
And there is the level of that where you like,
you see the lifestyle that he's living now and you're like, bro,
there's no level of training that you can do that
you can get because, like I'd argue, it's different than
like in Iliot Tuporia, who I feel like I see
for the most part, like him living luxury and certain spurts,
(24:36):
but for the most part it's him on the hard work,
training and grinding and whatnot. Whereas Connor, for the most part,
I just see him in a suit, either leaving a
courtroom or he's off like having some sort of party. Damn, yeah,
you get your deals back. I was like, bro, it's
pretty bad. It's pretty bad. I think. I think that's
why it's like image wise and then also career wise,
(24:59):
I think he just needs to take the money he
has because he still has a good amount of money
and just go over there. Just go over there.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And then trying to run for president. And at the
same time as all of this, yeah, like you're fucking
out of your mind.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
He's also running or partly running bare knuckle fighting championship. Yeah.
So he's got a lot of you know what I'm saying,
he's man with many hats, but I don't think any
of them are really bro any of them are really
fitting well right now. But anyway to just kind of
like tie a bow on this whole thing. So yeah,
So seven year deal with Paramount Plus last CBS for
seven point seven billion dollars starts in twenty twenty six.
(25:33):
Allegedly no more pay per views, we will see, because
Dana White was like, I don't know about normal pay
per views. Thirteen number premium events, live events, as we'll
call him, with thirty fight nights mainly on Paramount Plus,
with a few on CBS for free. In other news, also,
UFC plans to expand the UFC Apex to include another
five thousand to ten thousand fans. So that's going to
(25:54):
be exciting because I think that that's the part that
kills it about the apex. Like at first when it
was COVID, it was cool because they're like, all right,
we got fights, nobody cares. After a while, we're like,
there's no fans, there's no energy. It's weird, Like you
don't have that kind of like hype. It's cool analytically
if you just want to hear the sounds and you
want to hear the coaches and stuff like that. Smack, yeah, yeah,
(26:15):
you know what it's like for me with the APEX.
Every now and then it's a little refreshing because It's
like it's like when you're playing a video game and
it's like a custom kind of like fight arena kind
of thing. Like Apex gives it like a different flair.
I mean, be honest with you, Like I couldn't really
tell you the differences between all the arenas when it
comes to them being inside, Like I couldn't tell you
what's different than the other ones. Besides like maybe the fans,
(26:37):
Like I know that certain places they go to it's like, oh,
this this place has way more energy than this place
over here. But other than that, not really a whole
lot you can tell in terms of structure or whatever.
The APEX you can tell when they're not at the
Apex though, So I do like it here and there,
but I feel like maybe adding a couple more fans
would make it more of an excitement, you know. I
feel like more cheers, more booze, more like just energy,
(26:59):
and in the arena, I feel like it'd be a
lot better because they only got like what fifteen twenty
people right now, So at another five to ten k
it's cool with me, We're gonna pull up. I would.
I would a little quick flight to Vegas. I'll do it.
Let's see, let's see, let's see. Oh, one thing also,
I want to I wanted to ask you real quick
to see just your early prediction on this one to
go with this. Do you think, because now they're tied
(27:23):
to Paramount plus and CBS specifically, are we still having
on Eastern Standard time here in the East Coast ten
pm main cards or are they gonna start earlier? That's
what I'm thinking. I don't think at all. I think
there's gonna be eight pm, six pm? You think so,
I think? So what else on CBS? Is that late?
(27:45):
You want? Again? You want the general public to tune
in to watch this event. The main card is not starting.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
At Tokyo, but I think violent stuff like that goes
on a nine pm. It wasn't my I'm like the
cutoff of like, oh now we getting into some more
teenage or shit.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I guess so, but even then I feel yeah, But
then but then like would you because like right now
the model goes usually it's like six to eight pm
is when the prelims start with the main card and
such starting at like eight to ten pm. So then
you would then even start even later, and then you
would have no fan base like that that I think
(28:24):
is the opposite direction from where you want to go.
So I think at this point they're gonna be like,
you're gonna be okay with the violence, and you're gonna
enjoy it, and it's kind.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Of like boxing is the same thing, where it's just
always like a late ass fucking fight.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, well, maybe maybe they'll do because like the way
that they do it now with the ABC, maybe they'll
do it where like the pre limbs and such will
be on Paramount Plus and then the main card will
start at eight pm on CBS and then you can
watch it on both So that way, it is still
technically later, but it's not a whole night worth of fights,
you know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Sayings shows a lot of sports.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
They're not giving you a whole Saturday. Use he's not
taking over the whole Saturday now, so it has to
be late.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
So I think that that idea is well three on
Paramount and then main card mic at that time.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
That does make sense, Yeah, just be cause you guys
couldn't hear him out because he doesn't have a mic
right now. But basically he said that CBS has a
lot of sports on that network as it is so
to give UFC an entire Saturday is pretty insane. He
did agree with me that it does make sense for
them to just have it where it's just like the
main card, where it's only a couple of fights beyond
like eight or nine pm, versus having an entire Saturday
(29:37):
dedicated to one sport, which does make sense. I do
think that they're gonna have to like split that, but
that's why. I also I think part of it is
only the four fights on CBS rather than it being
like consistent Saturdays with it.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I think it's going to be like late as as
it's always been, just for the fact that, like growing
up sports, we'd watch our sports, maybe the football game
beyond and then after the football game ends, it was
WWE something, And I feel like w W was always
thrown in there in the in the end of Madden.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It was yeah, sports, it was it was later on
in the night, for sure, it was. It was weird.
It was like met for like teen adults, so they
just kind of expected you to be a little like
up a little later six seven pm, like I wrap
it up or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
It is different on this is a post cable era.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I don't know when did when did like Nicked night
and Adult Swim start ten, All right, that's pretty late
to Yeah, I don't know. They might keep yeah, they
might keep it the same. My only concern is that, like, listen,
we got jobs, bro, like like and everybody that's a fan.
I think for the most part, it is like eighteen
or thirty five. Like that's a working age right there, man, Like,
(30:40):
it's tough to stay up late when it's one two
in the morning and you're trying to watch this main event.
You're like, I'm excited, but the adrenaline can only go
so far. Yeah, it's it's beautiful when we have an
earlier card, even like in a couple of weeks when
they have that the card in China that starts at
six am, I'm excited. Yeah, I'll wake I would wake
up early. Serial in hand, like it's Saturday morning cartoons
(31:03):
to watch fights. I don't care about when they do it.
When they do like the the UK cards and stuff
like that, and it's an afternoon fight, bro, come on, Like,
that's beautiful. Even then, Actually they go completely different and
they're like it's Saturdays but in the afternoon. That'd be different.
If they were like no, no, no, we're still doing it
on Saturdays, but now it's going to be main card
starts at two o'clock middle of the day. Yeah, cool
(31:25):
with that, perfectly fine. I think that it'd be difficult
because like I don't know they had, Like you said,
they have to compete with other sports, so like that
primetime slot from I feel like seven to ten is
going to be very difficult to see who gets that.
And they're on every Saturday. They gotta be so like
that's all They'll get a couple But like I wonder
when you know what off season sport are they cool with?
(31:47):
Like college is going to.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Be college football because that's like a huge thing, yep.
And then what's after that? The CBS even show Uh,
they're don't show baseball.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Do they. I don't have cable bro, I couldn't. I
couldn't tell you. The CBS part doesn't affect me at all.
The Paramount plus part does. One hundred CBS is in Spanish,
m I say, CBS. I thought about opening the show
today in Spanish and like, I don't know why he
did the countdown and immediately I forgot about to hit him.
(32:20):
That ens no, But yeah, I think it'll be an
interesting and interesting time in twenty twenty six. We'll see
how it goes. I mean, I locked in, I guess
for seven years. I don't know if there's a way
out of it, but it's I think I think it'll
be way well, but I think it'll be an interesting time.
I like the idea that there's no more pay per views,
Like I said, everyone gonna watch them, how they're gonna
(32:42):
watch them?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
But like the last uh, there's nothing else that does
pay per view?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
No, not really. It was like them Boxing and the
w W E the w W stuff a couple of
years ago. I think Boxing will still probably do it
for a while. Get pay per view movies and yeah,
now not really. Everybody in the grandmother does like this.
It's streaming services and then like they don't have like.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It's the finesse in a way. Well, like how do
you how do you value you a stream? You can
just decide, Like it's different.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
How do you value anything, bro? It's not let's get
that tenfoil half firm on there? Bro? How do you
value anything you like?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
For music that people get pennies for streams?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah? So what are we doing? I don't know I
don't know how how they break it down in terms
of like cost per stream, like how many people divided
by the subscription price or whatever it might be. But
I think that they have it down in a way
that it's Another part of it is also is this
only going to be in like the US or were
also talking about like is this also including internationally? I
(33:41):
don't know how far paramount plus is. I don't know
if you can go to paramount plus and like some
different country and it counts as the same thing. Something
licensing is different, like.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Like it's something in it's definitely gonna be like different.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
There's other countries that have licensing to the stream like
the UFC that they that contract isn't going to expire
for a couple more years, so like I know, in
like Canada, for example, there's another company that has the
rights to stream UFC on their platform and that's still
going for another four or five years. So I don't know,
I don't know when to know that contract is really
like US thing. Yeah, So I don't know, I don't
(34:14):
know how they get the money from that. Because then
also a part of that is like I said, like
how do you then factor and you getting the money
back for what you spent based off of that, there's
a lot of mathematics that I don't know. There's a
way above my pay grade that hopefully, hopefully somebody out
there gives me a nice, crisp, detailed YouTube video that
I can kind of watch that breaks down for me,
(34:34):
because right now I couldn't tell you. Let's see anything
else to go over before we get into the fights
you want to go over. Do you want to go
over the fights and then get into what happened recently?
Do you want to just get in all the recent
stuff and then get into this upcoming pay per view.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
M I say, let's go over the pay per view pay.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Per view first and then we'll get into the random stuff.
I don't cool with that. Let's do it, ladies and gentlemen,
it's hard to get out on your headphones. Upcoming we
have UFC three nineteen DDP Drinkis Duplessi versus Hamsam I
have for the one eighty five middleweight title. Um sucked.
I know, right, you gotta bro the way he'd be
(35:14):
answering that, Mike, you got to hear him all the respect.
So this is going to be I think one of
the most anticipated pay per views of the year. I
believe if we go back to like the beginning of
the year and we were talking about our fighters and such,
Hamsa was brought up quite a few times where we
were all like, listen, this is the guy that we
want to see what happens with him because he's had
a lot of ups and downs with his medical situations.
(35:36):
Whether it's that I don't know, man, even I think so.
At this point, he's nothing confirmed, But at this point,
I feel like it's got to be something along those lines.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Always talking about like he can't be out in public.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Oh, he can't. He doesn't want to be New York
a coffin.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Kid I want, Yeah, I don't want to have a
chance of.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Meeting There's no dunkin Donuts line for him.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You can't leave your house without getting sick is a
bad news.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
That's what I'm saying. Like, I think there's somebody going
on there where he really, like he really gets sick
a lot easier than most people. And I feel like
that kind of leans towards like there's some sort of
medical condition that he's not disclosing, which he doesn't have to,
Like listen, I totally understand you don't want to put
your business out there, but after a certain point, like
I would be concerned as a fighter to sign that
dotted line and be like are you gonna show up?
(36:21):
But then when he does, he fights just a chance. Yeah,
But then the crazy part is that when he does
show up, he's gonna kill you. Like yeah, yeah he shows.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Well, yeah, I was watching like the UFC.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Was it embedded yep?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
And again getting to see like behind the scenes him yep.
I didn't. I got to see the others, not the boogeyman.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
You know. He's humble. Yeah, Like I was like, he's
very humble.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I f I fox with the way they carry themselves
over there, he.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Did, there's a seves it's a level of Yeah, they
have a certain level of discipline, a high level of respect.
Like they they definitely are modest, humble, like kind of
like take care of the people.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, he was like over here, I'm not a superstar
to them, I'm just their brother.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, he's building a gym. He's like, this isn't for
me to train this for the kids, bro, Like I
have my own things set up. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah,
parents are not concerned who ud Be could be with
all the money he got reinvested. Islam reinvesting, like everybody's reinvesting,
Like they're putting their money with for the people and
their culture and their community, and it's great fire. I
think it's the way to be. I think for a
lot of like people like you, they do get those moments.
(37:32):
I feel like they immediately take care of their own first,
and then from there they'll kind of expand. But I
do see a lot of fighters end up taking their
money and they put it back into the community, like
you have Dustin Pooria has a whole foundation where he
gets back to the kids and stuff like that. Like
there's a lot of people that will end up doing that.
I feel like when you get to a point where
like all right, I'm comfortable, my family's secured, that's what
you do with the rest of it, Like you reinvest
(37:53):
you you put back, and you do what you can
to help out others, because then it only it only
comes back to you, like for example, like growing up
in Salem, Like if Salem got better, that only makes
me happier, Like I don't see how it getting worse
helps me at all, Like if I saw the kids
don't have well what is it Mary Jane Lee Park
or something like that. No more, I let's build another park.
You know needs more courts, but let's build more courts.
(38:15):
You know what I'm saying. I would give all the
money in the world of that. So it's kind of
in the same vein where like day, I feel like
they get so much from the people as they were
growing up, they feel the need to give back. And
he's for sure somebody does. Like I said, I saw
him come on the scene the same way everybody else did.
He showed up, would murder somebody in the octagon, get
on the mic and scream that he's going to kill everybody.
(38:38):
Everyone is dead. You're like whoa, yeah, whoa. And then
because like this, like Boogeyman, it works out perfectly. Bro.
Then you don't see anything from him, you don't hear
anything about him. There's nothing going on. He's just over
there in the corner. But then now recently we're getting
a little bit more footage of his, like you know
him as a person and his like you know, home
(38:58):
life and the way he is. And I just feel
like it's an interesting thing to see behind somebody that
is like that in the cage like it becomes a
freaking monster ro It's scary to see. You're like, what
is going on behind those eyes? What just what lights?
Which is flick that you just like turn into a
killer the moment they shut that door. Because he's excited
(39:20):
to be there.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
He's super happy, so happy like a kid that like, yeah,
this is go to bonkers.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
He just gets to release it. Bro, He's got a
tough a tough night ahead of him. Though against d DP,
I find that DDP has now become a mystery to me.
I thoroughly enjoy all the memes of everyone being like
he's winning in the most Looney Tunes ass fashion of
all times. Uh DDP third round via falling Piano ADP
(39:47):
Second round KO via cartoon hammer. Someone said he's gonna
pull out like a gun, that's gonna pull out the
bang thing, and then a safe is going to fall
on him or something. All these ways. I mean, you
gotta every time you watch him fight, like you're everybody
says the same thing. All the commentators say the same thing.
It's so goofy, it's so unorthodox, none of it makes
(40:09):
any sense.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
You're like, the way he's he was talking about how
work doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
The way he fights now, the way he fights absolutely
not like you see him moving, You're like, he looks
like it's sloppy, like it's unorganized. He's just kind of
throwing himself around. But it's effected energy. It's working. Yeah,
I'm just gonna throw punches into like until someone gets
got Yeah, it ain't gonna be me. And it works
every single time. Apparently not every single time, but the champion. Yeah,
it got him there. I mean looking at I'm looking
(40:35):
at the records right now, he's twenty three and two
and then hams Out's fourteen or no. So only two
people were able to stop that ridiculous movement that he got.
It's the undefeated in the UFC. Who Yeah, I believe
both of them. Yeah, Jesus. So it's gonna be intriguing
to see. I think I think that this is gonna
be one that a lot of people are going to
(40:56):
be mixed up on, Like they don't know which one
getting a rider, die fan of one, You will have
your bias pick. But I think if you're just trying
to break this down for what it is, I don't
know who you go with.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I'm not a fan of either of these guys, but
I am not now that I've seen more. I do
kind of like.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I'm a fan of both for different reasons, for different reasons.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
It's like I respect, I guess I respect being a
champion because what like he's the people he frecking beat,
the people.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
He beat accolades. The trash talk is my favorite. I'm
not gonna lie. This is what I mean by an
opposite way. It's the same way that I just gave
hams Out all the respect for being this humble dude.
I love the way the DDP when he gets on
the mic, he will find the insecurity, the thing that
you hate most about you, and he will say that
ship to your fucking face and then back that up.
He doesn't care. Like he doesn't care. He will bring
(41:45):
up like which he's so far. I saw this the
edit he's made like I think the last three opponents
he's fought cry in terms of at the press conference
he made is he cry? He made on trick and
cry like this gets so emotional? Yeah, I don't. I
don't know what it is. If it's that he just
brings up like a subject that you're not the King
of Africa. Yeah, he bro. That whole thing was so
(42:07):
uncomfortable because you're like, just say the word, bro, to
say the word you want you want to say.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Imagine just like, I'm not all right, whoa, I'm the
only African champion and he's from South Africa, he's white,
he's not.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
He's like, he's taking you know what I'm saying. You
gotta get specific with it. I feel like he just
says the crazy stuff. Bro. When he went on Sean Strickland,
he was just like, I'm gonna beat you worse than
your dad did that Sid Strickly, that was to hit
him right in the trauma. He was like, whoa, whoa,
that was personal. That beat me pretty odd. It's so bad.
(42:47):
But I'm saying like I like him for both for
different reasons. I find him entertaining. I think that at
first I was like, man, it was just bummed fighting.
At the time, it was fighting guys that I thoroughly
enjoyed watching. I still kind of do. But at the time,
you again, based on your bias, who's your guy. So
I was like, all right, he's he's beating him. No,
Robert Whittiger beating him. No, Sean Stricklin beating him. No,
(43:08):
you're all right? What is going on with this guy?
Same thing as Elijah? He won my respect.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Every time he's fought. I've gone against him. Yeah, I
want the other guy to win.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, because you're like, Bro, there's no way he's gonna
pull this dumb shit off again. And he somehow pulls
the dumb shit off. What are you talking about? I
don't even think like DDP by falling safe. I'm telling you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
It's like, Bro, he's not even that good, but they
really he whoofs his ass. It's just like, bro, but
technically in a technical level, he's.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Not really that good. No, no, no, we're talking skill
and technique. It's it's the way. The thing is that
like it works. That's the that's the beauty of the
sport as well. It's like, hey, if it works, it works. Bro,
I'm not gonna hate. Yeah, you're saying, yeah, I'm I'm sorry.
(44:00):
I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with a justin
answer on this one. And I feel like this is
one that I think most people will agree if it's
not Hamzad in the first two DDP got it, Okay,
I feel like with the recent fights that I've been seeing,
it's been the same thing over and over again. The
gas tank on Hamzad, he expels all of it, hits, hits,
the NRI immediately guns for you, taking you down, trying
(44:22):
to take down immediately immediately. So with DDP, he hasn't
been practicing, like, Okay, what do you do when you
get smothered like he's You'll be in a bit of
a struggle there. But like, for the most part, if
you're granted it was at a different weight class, but
if you're like a Gilbert Burns or a Kamara Usman
and you're able to at least like survive those initial
two you're pretty good. You can do pretty well. You
(44:44):
can then tag him up a good amount. I feel
like on the feet Hamzad does all right, but I
would say that there's definitely better strikers. Now again, it's
weird with Dricus because I'm like, I don't know if
you would say he's a good striker, but he has
shown that he can strike, so I I don't, Oh,
I don't know that the ground game. Hey, you know
he's sub dizzy. Yeah, what the are you're so saying?
(45:07):
Like you're like, I, you know, I yeah, hmm looney
Tunes ass fighter. But I'm telling you I couldn't tell you.
I couldn't tell you. I wish I could give you, like, Oh,
he's really in my opinion, like he somehow is very
good on the feet and on the ground in his
own unique style in the way that nobody else I
think can necessarily mimic or necessarily prepare for versus Like
(45:31):
that's what it is. Yeah, I think that that's that's
kind of what it is in your traditional sense of being,
Like this wrestler is very good at take down and
grounded pound. You can't say that he has that like
foundation or that character style or whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
When someone's good, you can kind of predict what they're
gonna do sometimes because you could just say, oh, why
wouldn't he do this move when I made this move?
You know what I'm saying, Like, why wouldn't he reacting
this way.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
If he was good? Yeah, and if they're a little
quicker than you or something like that, that's a little
different before that was on orthodox, why would you do that? Yeah?
But then you hear the guys who have fought Dricus
and they talk about him, and they're like, yeah, I
didn't know what to do with that. I didn't know
what to do with that. I didn't. I didn't. I
didn't know what was coming. I didn't know what he
was doing with it. But it hit me. I don't
know what happened, but it hit me. And it's true,
(46:18):
Like he just comes at you from strange angles. The footwork,
like he says, throw it out the window. It's gonna
be weird. He's diving into punches. His takedowns are like
like a dolphin dive into you for some reason, traditional
like initiation, Like I don't know, man, I feel like
he's just such an interesting fighter that I feel like
you can't you got to give him the benefit of
the doubt that he can do something pretty wild on
(46:42):
Saturday to be able to get out of it. Like
I feel like he is tough enough, he's strong enough
that I feel like he can get out of at
least the few initial attempts. Will he be able to
stop like the third, fourth, or fifth.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
But i'msa with he's gonna break Whittaker's jaw.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Like that, Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like it's it's
like the watermelon. Yeah, it squeeze the watermelon, dude. It's
it's something that the strength they got over there is crazy.
I don't know what he wheezed his face until the
fucking Looking at the odds right now, he's a minus
one eighty against Drikus, who's a plus one fifty. So
people are already favoring Hamza to win. Really yeah, and
(47:19):
then he's a monster. He's he's very impressed.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I've seen I've seen that he freaking got a submission
and then what like a week later or something, got
a knockout?
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Was it like when he first started, he was very active,
he was just going in like he fought I forget
the dude's name, and I feel bad about it, but
with the performance is like he fought a guy who
didn't get to throw a punch, Like like I watched
this live. He went took him down, picked him up
off the ground, walked him across the octagon to his
(47:51):
own corner, dropped him weird naked choke. The guy didn't
get to throw a literal punch at him because he
was just trying to fight Hamza's hands the whole time,
and he couldn't break the grip. It just would not go.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
That's the thing is like these freaking Dagstani they got
the freaking grip of a freaking ape.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, they trained him different. I
don't know. Well, they're like they I've been.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
They probably can hang from a freaking tree for hours.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
You know what it is? Man? I think that it's
also like it's the same reason that like a Bryce
Mitchell is like stronger than he looks. There's something about
being like like farmer or like agriculture strong. And I
feel like, at least in Dagistan, from what they've shown
different strength, it's very like farm land dish. So I
don't know if they're involved in that kind of stuff
or if they come from like like Morob for example,
(48:38):
who does like construction for a good while of his life. Like,
I feel like when you're in labor work like that,
you just build different. Bro. There's a different type of
like strength that you got versus like your traditional I'm
going to the gym and lifting weights kind of strength.
I feel like you're on a different Yeah, you're built
on a different plane, you know what I'm saying. Certain
movements just fit you better, I guess than others, So
with him, I definitely feel like I don't know, man,
(49:00):
I like I said, I really don't know who I
give it to, who I'm going to give my pick to.
But I feel like if I had to say, it's
homs out within two or its streak is within.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Five, Okay, okay, like I got Hamza, but like I
put money on it.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, Hamsund's confident that he's gonna win. By the way,
this is a little tip that I was going to
throw in on this one where he was saying the
other day that if or when he wins, I should
say he's either I couldn't really tell if he meant
it in the sense of like he's going to do
both or it's either one or the other. He's like,
I'm winning this one eighty five and then down to
one seventy, I go to fight the winner of Islam
(49:37):
versus JDM. I think a JDM would be a better
matchup for him. Or he moves up and he takes
that two five belt whoever has just go up. I
feel like it makes more sense to move up because
he's a bigger guy. Like if you even when I.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Saw it, like I'm imagine how crazy, he would look skinnier.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
I well, I mean, he did fight at one seventy already,
but it definitely didn't go in his favor. I feel
like it would be better for him to be at
two o five. I just want to see, like what
that looks like, because it's a pretty big weight difference,
and you gotta like maintain physique immune freaking disease.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Allegedly allegedly, so you got him dropping even more weight.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Like, I don't know, bro, I'm intrigued to see what.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I don't want to like, where's he from? He's from
a different city in uh Russia.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Right whom?
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, let me see, well, because I don't want to
take Augustani Vsa Dagustani.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
That's the thing is that I ain't doing that. I
feel like he doesn't fight out of Russia. So let's
see if I can find exactly where it is that
he's instead.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I hear that he's like connected with terrorists.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
You know, man, he's Chechan. Yeah, okay, Cheching born Russian
Swedish professional mixed martial artist. That's what it says here
according to Google. A Okay, I don't know, man. And
then in terms of in terms of that one. I'm
(51:01):
not going to touch it, Bro, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
I don't want to see him fight Islam.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
I don't know why I don't want to see Russian
Russian I get I get your stance. I get your
stance just too.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Wrestlers just sicking being Russian.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
I don't know some about like it's the whole thing
of the pound for pound situation. I feel like I
want to see the best fight the best the same
way that I want to watch Ilia versus Islam, and
I want to see I want to see kam Zadi
to move down and move up and fight whoever.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
That that Islam fight would be crazy, would be insane,
Like just the fact like I think can knock him out.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I think so too. He Yeah, I think you can
catch him like, oh snap, he could not. I just
want to see the wrestling more than anything. Yeah, because
I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Because all of a sudden, you see like oh snap
got this in his back too?
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah? Yeah, you know like man stanos Bro, He's like,
who's your favorite? Because I'm killing him now? Yeah, Who's
how is that psychopath? Bro? The man's a psychopath. Oh
here's the here's a quote. He says, basically like go
down with him, fight with him as well, which he
means Islam take the belt there, or if I go
up there's Maga mat Angliave and Alex Perreira. They're fighting now.
(52:14):
Whoever's winning, I can fight for that belt as well.
All the Russians. He it's not, it's not. I wouldn't
say he has a particular one in mind. The best
ones just happened to be Russia. But for sure, he's
definitely just trying to find the way to become one
of the greatest of all time as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
That's crazy if all three, unless he was to be champion,
all three Russian champions are from different Russian cities.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Right, No, he's not, He's not from Russia. Said no,
it's like a weird thing. That's why I said, like,
I don't really, no, No, I don't know where he
is fully from because every time I feel like they
talk about like his background, it's a lot of he's
from here, but he fights out of here, and he's
(53:01):
been here, but he lives here and he's affiliated and
this that that they're like, I don't know, so he's
from over there, you know what I'm saying he's.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
From magamed Yep calive, big Russian, big Russian, big Kistan.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
That I don't I couldn't. It looks like a Moscow.
I can't tell you. I don't know. I don't know, man.
It's the same way that people will be over here
and be like you Puerto Ricans were like, we're Dominican. Man,
I don't know that. You know, they're just going to
be like, oh, you from over there, we got it
kind of right, you just I don't know. I don't want.
I don't want to. I don't want to mess up
and be like, yeah, you're there from here one hundred percent.
It is uneducated, MMA, but I want to give at
least somewhat of an educated guest. I guess, but I
(53:41):
don't know, man. I want to see the best fight
the best. I don't care where you're from. I just
want to see like the most interesting fights. And I
feel like if it means him moving down to one
seventy because that's what he's comfortable with doing over trying
to go all the way up to two or five,
I'm with it. Do I want to see another heavy
wrestler move up to a weight class that I want
to see predominantly strikers. Not really. I feel like when
it comes to light heavyweight and anyway, I don't really
care for wrestlers. I just want to see somebody get
(54:02):
like absolutely clipped and just dropped. But like, I don't
really care to see somebody get wrestled for twenty five minutes.
So you know, I will say this when it comes
to Hamzai, that's not his vibe. His vibe is violence.
Like if he gets you on the ground, expect to
get choked to death, or expect him to beat you
to the It's gonna squeeze your head till it explodes. Yeah,
like there is there is no chill. It's full throttle.
(54:25):
You're gonna die. And I'm with that. I'm with that
skull crusher. Yeah. I don't know, man, I feel like
I don't I don't know who I got on this one, bro.
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
It's like an impossible choice. Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
I feel like, even if you were going from a
better standpoint, like it wouldn't be a bad idea to
put money on DDP as the underdog, it wouldn't be
a bad idea. I feel like I put him as
like a decision win. Yeah, that's not a bad not
a bad pick. Not a bad pick DDP by decision.
I don't see why, you.
Speaker 6 (54:56):
Know what I'm saying this, although I feel like his
name needs it comes, I'm gonna see kam Zah.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah, Kamza is not who it was. Someone called him
something that I'll tell you all air because I don't know,
I don't know if YouTube will let me say this
out loud. But someone calls him something that was crazy
with his name, and you can be like, yeah, that
makes sense. You might look you start calling him that afterwards.
But anyway, Lauren Murphy versus Aaron Pico is up. Yeah right,
we're gonna just avoid that one. This one is gonna
(55:25):
be a good one as well. This is Aaron Pico's
debut fight, another fighter coming over from bellotour, and I
feel like, right now, man, they got a bad they
got a bad name.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Belatoy y'all, y'all in UFC, y'all never was. Yeah, bro,
you try to go into UFC, you ain't gonna be
going about to get ufced.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
That's what it is, because that's respect disrespect. Not for sure,
I'm not going to say you're actually I disagree with you.
So far we've seen him go pretty pretty south like,
but you steel Pippo gotta win recently, but after that
that was losing to his debut. So is this gonna
go any Oh.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
I don't let me see, you're like fifteen through ten.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yeah, yeah, I think that they're all like there.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
If you are the best over there, you might be
fifteen through thirteen.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
I don't know. Let me see it is this one.
I don't know if this one has odds already. Let's see. Yeah,
they do, all right, So they got Lauryl Murphy at
a plus one thirty and Aaron Peko at a minus
one fifty five. So there, all right, so at least
the the better is are putting a little bit more
respect on his name right now, listen, I'm be very honest.
I have zero idea anything about Aaron Pico. I've seen
like maybe a few highlights from him, no clue loose
(56:27):
like he does that, right. I haven't seen anything for
me that's like out of the ordinary compared to other
MMA fighters, Like even if you get like a crazy
highlight knockout clip, I need to see more consistency for
me to even really put a whole lot of weight
on that. Everybody can get clipped in this game. So
it is what it is. In terms of la Ron Murphy,
I've seen him fight a good amount of time so far.
Good fighter out of the UK, very good overall, well rounded,
(56:49):
definitely heavy, I feel like terms of kickboxing, so I
wonder if this is going to be like more of
a stand up fight see like see like a like
a Leon Edwards kind of kind of yeah, I think
that that's kind of more so he would lean definitely,
I would say, like a good fighter. I wouldn't say
the most exciting. So this is gonna be one that
I feel like, Yeah, this is one of those Sure,
(57:09):
this is one of those like if you know, you
know kind of things. And I feel like even I
don't know, uneducated, like I know what I'm saying, Like,
I feel like I tried my best to kind of
tune into this one. But like I said at the
beginning of the show, I do feel like the news
with the signing of the new like streaming deal definitely
overshadowed a lot of this card. So a lot of
the information, like most of the podcasts, a lot of
(57:31):
you guys are gonna watch this week or listen to
this week in terms of MMA are going to be heavy,
Like here's a good chunk of this deal and then
here's a little bit of the pay per view, And
I feel like that's kind of what we're doing to
you as well. But I feel like that's what it
feels like. Like, deal, it is a big deal. It's
a pretty big deal. Yeah, it's a big good breaking news.
But in terms of the fights, like they're still good fights.
(57:52):
I definitely say suggest like turning like tuning in and
again one of the last pay per views of ever allegedly,
so that's also a pretty big moment to think about
it all time. Yeah, I don't know, Like I said,
they know why he left that door open, so I
don't know if he's even might do something later. The
people were saying, maybe it'll be some crazy super fight
he decides to put on, but I don't know, or
maybe the wants the White House one who knows the House.
(58:13):
Probably No, I feel like that one got to be
on CBS, and that's gonna be Cable. Yeah, you got
to CBS. I'm gonna I'm gonna give Aaron people the
benefit of the doubt. I'm not gonna hate on another
Belatoor fighter coming over. I feel like you got to
give him the respect. What the respect is due the
fact that they made it long enough to stick around
to be signed by the PFL instead of getting immediately
released when they took over the or took over Bellatour,
(58:33):
and then for the UFC to decide to sign him on.
Because this is whole thing with like people say the
UFC is just signing these Beloto guys to just kill
him just to be like, see, we're better than you.
But I don't even think they have to do that
at this point in terms of like the organization failing
in a sense, PFL not really gaining a whole lot
of traction In terms of the main MMA space, I
(58:54):
feel like MMA heads will tune into like PFL here
and there, but in terms of it being like you
know what mains stream, it's not really there.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
You know what I want to see mainstream? What that
karate shit?
Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yeah? Karate combat? Yeah that's fire. Since ARTI combat is fire,
I think you want on Amazon Prime? Oh for real,
I think it's Amazon Prime. Bring it to Paramount.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
We need at least another combat to blow up.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
I think. I think karate combat is like a happy
middle of you being able to see some like pretty
cool like martial arts, but also like getting good knockouts,
and it's not bare knuckle. Like I think that bare
knuckles for a lot of people is a bit much
like even I'm like, oh, like you see that. They're like, yo,
you're missing the first front row of all this right
(59:38):
here gone, and the refs like you're good. It's not good.
Speaker 2 (59:41):
It's someone locally that I met that was doing bare
knuckle when.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
We had we had Matt on the podcast, Matt Doherty,
he's done bare knuckle before. Yeah, I think it's just
something you do. I think you just you You find
yourself in some spots where they're like, yo, we got
this opportunity, and you take that opportunity and man, I'm
throwing hand. I'm down to throw hands with whatever, Tonio
and I ain't gonna lie to you. A lot of
the bare knuckle fighters are either they're fighters that like
(01:00:05):
didn't make big splashes in like M M A or
something like that, or boxing, or they're former professionals in
both and now they're just trying to get a check.
So like they'll get a former UFC legend to sign
on for two to three fights, and boy, they'll earn
every cent of that check trying to be in there.
But like people don't want to sign them. They don't
(01:00:27):
want to find him, they don't want to. But I
think he's in. Is he he's a bare knuckle now
he was in dirty boxing before? Or is it is
it dirty boxing now? Or is a bare knuckle that
he's on. I think it's bare knuckle. It was a
bare knuckle. I totally get I wanting to sign I
wouldn't put my name on that. You want me to
fight who with my bare hands? With my bare hands?
And then he gets his bare hands too. Now everyone
(01:00:49):
heard that Joe brogan story of his I like regenerating
and everyone's like, I'm not fighting that. Like the Cuban
Superman Man's the Winter Soldier from Cuba. Both arms are
made out of vibranium. Like I said, the experiment fucking
you know every time I every time, I like get
(01:01:09):
the highlights or I guess in a highlight. But like
I see the clips of the easy fight with with
ther Role, I like, I get why he didn't want
to engage. Like people gave him ship for that fight,
for it being so like boring of like both of
them just basically circling each other like this. But at
the same time, I'm like, yeah, no, yeah, would you
want to get within a couple of feet of that
man when he's trying to hit you?
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
No, Like, if you hit him, you get hurt. Like
those games are like inflict. Uh, it's like minus, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Got poison damage. Yeah, you hit him, just like yeah,
that's kind of what I feel like it feels like
against him. So I totally get I wanted to fight him. Bro,
forget that. I'm said, anyway, I'm going with la Ron
Murphy on this one. I feel like you got to
go with number six. You'll see I put money on
that one too. You did, I would? I mean, oh
you would a bed and he's the antaduct. That wouldn't
be a bad idea. I don't know, who knows. Maybe
(01:01:59):
Aaron Peekle shows up and just dominates. But he's over
here talking mats back that he's ready to take over
a featherweight. So yeah, that's what freaking bow nicks. What's
the name? No, bro? What was that Patsy mix mix?
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Like I have be more like I got secondhand embarrassedment
because I was like, I have never seen someone talk
so much.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Ship and just have to eat it all bro, And
it just carries with him now. Yeah, every time the pan,
like the camera pans to him and it's just old
Patsy mix and it's just.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Like even he he's just like he just didn't like,
don't fucking don't show me, Bro, don't show Yeah, I
feel like I feel bad, But at the same time,
I don't because if he didn't talk, like if he
just was like, I'm here to be in the UC,
I'm excited to be him. Thank you for the opportunity.
I'm ready to show you guys my skills. Yeah, da YadA.
(01:02:49):
And he lost the way that he did, I'd be like,
damn man, maybe it was an off night, maybe whatever,
but the fact that he came in he was our
dog walk everybody in this division not better than all
you bombs.
Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I was like, all right, I thought he was gonna.
I thought he was him Bro. I was like, Bro, Okay, okay,
you're talking like that. You must have seen some ship.
Yeah it looks like you haven't seen ship. Yeah, you
haven't even it looks it looked like he didn't have
like the experience.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
That he claimed the Yet, no, bro, it was awful.
It was garbage. It was like it was like an
amateur fight. I was like, what am I watching here?
But I've seen better street beefs fight girls better than him.
Yeah she is no, No, we'll say that, No, she is.
She is one hundred and ten percent he's I mean,
I'm gonna go alright for now for now my book,
they can cut him and I wouldn't care mix. Yeah,
(01:03:34):
I'm always like anyway, moving on. Honestly, this should be
the co main event in my opinion, Jeff Neil versus
College protest. That's that should be the komin that should
be comin of that. For sure. That one I think
is that one. Everybody is expecting fireworks. I expect a knockout,
one hundred percent, a freak of flying knee. I think
(01:03:56):
we're definitely gonna get a flying different process, for sure.
I think that that dude is looking to get a
title shot. Now. I'm in true to see because like,
I feel like a lot of weight is put on
now the fighting nerds, that whole group of guys. I
was gonna ask, yeah, who's the best out of that group?
You know, I I would say, for me, he's the
closest to a title shot, So I feel like that
(01:04:18):
might be a bit a bit of it, but I
feel like he kind of I don't know who started first,
but it seemed like he was the one that got
the most traction at the beginning. From what I would say,
it's him. Carlos Protest so far is shown to be
really good. Rufie is shown to be very dynamic, like
a very exciting striker who's also coming for a title shot. Man,
(01:04:39):
I don't know. And then you got I don't know, man,
because Jean Silva is like dude that with that camp,
I feel like, Gee, Silva is that guy.
Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I hope they kind of I want to say, take over,
but kind of get these I don't hate on the
rest of it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
No, I want them to do well and I want
them to at least be contenders for a while, even
if they don't immediately win their title fights, but they
stay in that race, because in my opinion, it's the
same thing when you have like the like the Izzy camp,
where you have like Izzy and Dan Looker and Carlos
Holberg like they're all coming out of you got these
like New Zealand boys, you know what I'm saying. And
then I feel like Brazil is a little different where
they have so many different camps, but there's not really
(01:05:17):
I feel like there's like Shoot the Box. I feel
like it's the only one that I heard of consistently.
But even then, that's what I'm saying. They don't wrap
as like a team like that. They don't get teams.
The fighting nerds have merched. They put the glasses on
Joe Rogan. Like you you you root for those guys
and you know that they're all a team because they're
always together. So like that one's a little bit different.
I feel like this a couple.
Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
That's what I want to see more of in the UFC.
Little factions.
Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
I feel like that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I remember, like the old WE games, you can create
your little factions.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
It's tricky when you have these like super gyms, or
you have like thirty fighters in the UC roster all fighting,
and then most of them are all in one weight division.
So for example, like the lightweights or whatever, one five
like those guys, like there's probably like five guys that
all train at the same gym that they don't want
to hang out because they all fight each other there
at some point it's weird.
Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
They bring bring bring one for every weight class. Yeah,
bring your starting five.
Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
This is sounding like the GFL right now. Yeah, this
is the GFL. Make your little faction call it something cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I want to see like d X yeah, the generation XIT.
Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Because also, like if from a branding standpoint, like yo,
like these dudes are probably gonna start selling merch, if
not already selling merch, get your gym bred up.
Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
And if your team's winning, like right there, like you're
you're already marketed way.
Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Better than way better. Yeah, your own brand, But you
could be okay on the fighting nerds, and they would
off the kind of word, off the branding, the look,
the vibe of you just being like in that photo
on the left hand side over there with them, They're
gonna like you better than you being off to the side.
But you guys do actually train together. I feel like
you have to work way harder to be over here,
and you do have to be over here, you know
(01:06:52):
what I'm saying, The group field versus the individual feel
unless you're that good that you are carrying yourself, which
I feel like in this case, there's two. Like you
asked me the question, there's too many good ones in
their own individual ways for me to be like, yeah,
that's what you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
But if like three of them are doing good, that
fourth might get more shy or look or more opportunities
because he's because because he's part of that team.
Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I agree. I agree, especially if it's in something that
is like you're all in different weight classes too, I
feel like that also needs.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
To we are freaking undefeated, what about this one?
Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
He must be good to be fair that the like,
let's let's let's be honest here you have the Kobeb
stamp of approval for the most part as being something
very similar if you have Nimarka metof as your last name,
they're like, oh yeah, this man in like I don't know.
So I feel like there is a part of that
where like if you come from me to that camp,
if you're of Dakastani descent for whatever reason, there is
(01:07:45):
a little bit more of a lure put on you
where you're like, Wow, who's this guy? You know, Let's
get this guy in some bigger fights off riped America.
Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
It's really just like broke, just John Jones and someone else.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Is make a super camp, make a create a super
There are super there's a lot of super teams that
are in the US. But the thing is that they're
not all American that fight through there. Like for example,
like you have I think Islam and kuld Be when
he was fighting, they they went through American Top Team
like they were a part of that. That's why like
DC and them trained like so they wear that King
(01:08:17):
Velaska's I believe it's also a part of that camp.
So you do. Yeah, so you have yeah, you have
big camps within the US, and like that's what I'm
saying that there are I guess you can call them factions,
but they don't they don't re him.
Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Like this, Like they don't go back there was like yeah, no,
I'm not fighting dude, He's part of camp.
Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Yeah, but that's what you also you also see like
them cornering one another. So you'll see them all, like
I don't know, help each other out in camp. You'll
see them when they're doing like there you've see embedded.
You'll see other fighters and stuff like that popping up
in the corners and stuff like that. Vulcan who Volcan
with Australia and I think he I don't know he.
I think he's a part of I don't know seeing them.
(01:09:00):
I don't know if he has any teammates that we
would know. No, no, no, they hang out because that's
New Zealand, so they're like nearby countries, but like they're
not No, they're not on the same camp. That's the
thing is that, like is he's like with Dan Hooker?
Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
What if Volks showed up for I remember one of
these embedded he showed up for.
Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Someone's Is he with JDM? Jdm's Australian might be him.
I don't know. We're weird stuff, we're stuff and that
one man, I don't know who I got bro Jeff Neil.
Jeff Neil's real good. Jeff Neil is good, Like he's
one of the guys, like he is on the older
side and right jof Jeoff Neil. He's on the older side.
(01:09:38):
And you definitely I feel like I don't want to
put him on that status of like gatekeeper. I don't
know if I see a title shot with him, but
I definitely see like him building momentum and getting a
couple of wins in a row and stuff. So I
don't know if I Carlos Protest is on this wave
right now though I think everybody's hyping him up so that.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Ship man, I feel like a team like that, all
of them winning.
Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
He just lost, though he did just lose, But it's like,
what's the same synergy? No, the synapsis symbiosish iron sharp
as iron or yeah, kind of thing like I think,
so I agree with you the all top fighters in
(01:10:24):
some way. Yeah, I think that I see him, I
see him performing well, but I just feel like I
gotta I don't know something about the confidence that I've
seen with Jeff Neil in terms of like handling these
opportunities where they're like, we're gonna give you the young
hungry guy and him being able to shut that down
real quick. And he's also good overall. Like that's another
thing with so the way that Protest lost his last
fight was against Ian Gary, and a lot of that
(01:10:46):
had to do with the grappling and the wrestling. It's
very nice, So he's pretty gay put some respect on
saying like that. I wouldn't like.
Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Just just adapt and and come back better I think
college process still can.
Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
I think he can too. All right, So we'll be
uposing SATs on this one, so we'll see what happens.
I might throw, I might throw Jeff Neil on the parlay.
We'll see. I don't know. I think he has good odds.
I don't know. I feel like I feel like with him,
he's got one one punch knockout power. We've seen him
be able to take a lot of damage and still
kind of whether the storm are come out on top.
(01:11:19):
So I feel like, I don't know. I feel like,
even though you have the younger and hungry guy, you
still got to put respect on his name. He's not
out of here yet. Jeff Neil plus two twenty five.
Carlos prot is at a minus two seventy five. So
it's it's a decent money line right there. You know
what I'm saying, decent money for the for the sake
of the money line, I mean for the parlay five
(01:11:40):
on Jeff five case. Then moving on, we got Jared
Kennedyer versus Michael Vina Paige. Jared Kennedyer opens up at
a plus one sixty five and Michael Page at a
minus one. Ny five. This is just going to be
another one where I feel like, how does he need
(01:12:00):
to change? I feel like the way I feel like
they just gave Aaron people the comin event, I feel
like that's the only reason he's up there. But I
feel like I want to change the way that this
is cut up because I'm like, what are you talking about?
Jerry Cannany is another one that he's on the older
side of things. He's been in three weight divisions. I'm
gonna give you the same spiel, knockouts an all three
weight divisions, super durable. He's on the comeback tour. As
(01:12:22):
he said that he's you know, he's just whoop as
cut and wait and cut and wait. Yeah. Well now
he's been comfy at one eighty five. I feel like,
now he's reached a weight where he's like, all right,
this is this is where my body's supposed to feel
healthy here. Yeah, for sure, and it shows. Well, that's
that's what I was gonna say. Being older, I think
he's like over forty. Now I want to say he's
(01:12:43):
over forty he's able to still compete with the best
of the best. Not we're not talking to young, hungry guys. No, no, no,
he's better than that. He's in the top, he's fighting
top five, still holding his own. He's able to I
feel like, prove a lot of people wrong when it
comes the stats, when people start going over over the
age of such as such, you shouldn't be doing this
one and the third. But he's able to still do
(01:13:05):
his thing. So when it comes to this one, I
feel like, same thing. The odds are stacked against him.
I feel like, based off of age, I feel like
a lot of people are kind of expecting him to
be the slower fighter gets a Michael Venam Page who's
a lot more dynamic. That dude is dartning and out,
just dancing on you. So I get it. I get it.
I think off of the speed advantage, I'm gonna go
with probably Michael Venam Page, but I feel like you
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shouldn't count out Jared Kennedy here. I think it's gonna
be an exciting one. I think it's gonna be a
car crash. I feel like, oh man, yeah, I think
I think Jared Cannan here knows that the way do
you fight Michael Vanam Page you have to get in
his face. There is no do not let him get
that distance. You not let him get that karate once
he starts doing that side of side bounce use kicks.
(01:13:47):
It's so it's insane. I feel like you would just
want to run at him the whole time, Like you
cannot let him get that distance. He will throw some
weird sidekick to your face. Watched the elbows for sure,
he's up the middle. You gotta be a little careful
on that one. I'm gonna go with Jared Cannadier. I
think I might build an under underdog parlay off of me.
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So far, I've picked Lauren Murphy, I picked Jeff Neil,
and I've picked Jared Canadier. All those three are underdogs.
Payout I'm saying is I actually let me, let me
not put too much too much on it. But I
will say the last two fights, the last two cards
that went out, I only I got most of the
(01:14:29):
fights right. I think I got three fights wrong on
both of them. So like, pretty good, pretty good. Don't
take my advice. I'm not starting a betting page or
anything like that. You we're not. You will not catch
me being like join the patreon so you get my betting. No, No,
I'm not doing all that that's that's that's not the
kind of guy I am. You should take this un
educated advice. I do not make make you. This is
(01:14:49):
non financial advice, not financial advisors. Yeah, the opposite way
or whatever we do. I'm saying is Melbourne has picked
against us a couple of times, and I'm pretty sure
he's made a good bag. So I don't know, man,
maybe betting against us the way to go, all right,
and then to open up the car. We got Tim
Elliott versus Kyasakora. Another insane difference when it comes to
(01:15:13):
the money lines. Here we got Tim Elliott at a
plus two fifty and Kayasakora at a minus three twenty.
It's the night of favorites right now. And it's something
about it makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
It's like, we we saw this. That's the Japanese guy
that came over.
Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
He came over. He fought u Pantosia. Pantosia handles damn
near the gold in that weight class. Yeah, not damn near.
I'd say he is for sure at this point he is.
Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
So it's like, I don't know, I don't know what
to expect. Still left off that one fight. Let's well,
I guess we'll see how good he really is.
Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Yeah, I think that he is a good fighter. I
think that there is something to do with like coming
over to the u S. He's like the same thing
I'm gonna say about Aaron Pico and all the other
guys coming over from Bellatore something about coming over to
the UFC. Bro, I think that it's a different it's
a different setup. Like you walk in, the level of
care and attention to detail that the entire staff has,
(01:16:07):
the production team, the backroom stuff that they do. This
is the level of of of just professionalism that I
feel like comes with it that it throws a lot
of people off. I will say, there is a part
of it that I do think comes with Also, then
you walk out and they're like, Bro, this is the UFC.
There are all these people like I'm in the UFC.
I think, Yeah, I think it gets to you to
(01:16:29):
a little bit. So, like, I don't know, based off
of that performance, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put
too much on it because I feel like a lot
of the same thing. I'm gonna give everybody the benefit
of the doubt. If they come in here and if
they show me some patchy mixed bullshit. No, I don't.
I don't like you anymore. You you lost all respect
for me. But if you come in and you're bro,
you're trying, but the guy you're fighting is just that
much better than you. It is what it is. Like.
(01:16:51):
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that
you can get better, you can learn from your mistakes,
and let's see how you do against the next guy.
But you know, you really only get the one of
two chances. And I think most of the UFC like
fan base is gonna be like, I'm set off of you.
I'm gonna pass. I'm gonna just kind of keep watching
the other guys or bet against you or root against you.
And then I think the UC money making like marketing
(01:17:11):
machine decides to like back up a little bit off
of you, and you don't. You don't get the COO
opportunities anymore. You go from the main card to the
early prelims and it's just a rap. So we'll see
what happens with these guys that come over from these
other organizations. Timilaliot, though I feel like it's insane that
disrespect they got on this guy. I do feel like
though this is one of those fights where they're giving
Kai an easier fight for him to kind of get
(01:17:33):
his footing back, because at the same time, like they
do need some bigger stars from that side of the
world to like come over. Like I feel like they
do need we need you to succeed. I mean, like,
for example, like you know how hype we get over
Waldough like and that's just us getting the one. Like
imagine like how many fighters from like Asia that there
are that can come over to the US that then
we can get people from South Korea, China, Japan like that,
(01:17:57):
They're just gonna be like way more excited to watch
the spoils much bigger international fan basically they can get
on board. So I think that that's kind of one
of these moves where they're like, let's get Kai back
up there. You know what I'm saying. He did not
have the best going around the first time.
Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
I thought it was crazy to have him start in
the UFC against Pantosi.
Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
I think that that was wild to get a title shot.
That was a topic of conversation we went over on
and off air like several times because we were both
just like, bro, how what did you do? That was
so great that I.
Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Think dominating a whole half of the world. I mean,
that's all while the UFC is going on over here,
he's over there.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
That's a part of it though, because like I feel
like with the Bell Tour, guys like you have guys
that are multi multi time champions, like big winners, they've
won other things and like for example, let's say they
go to the PFL. They did win a million dollar
tournament and all this other stuff. You have accolades, but
like does anybody give it, Like nobody cares. Bro Like
nobody's got to the point where in the UFC it
(01:18:54):
ain't for me, like you know what I'm saying, Like
it just it is what it is, Like it's unfortunate.
But at the same time, like we have to recognize
that this is a situation where as much as we
want to have like these other organizations, so you have
a variety to watch, so like you don't have UFC,
I guess you don't like the dirty business practices is
what you want to call them, where it's like the
fighters and stuff aren't getting paid with the getting they
(01:19:16):
should be getting paid, but they're our NBA, our NFL,
our MLB. It is is what it is. This is
the pros. Whatever y'all been fighting and ain't the pro
It ain't the pros. Bro, people people go from euro
over here to play, like that's just what it is.
Like if people they like we are the premier everyone
will tune in across the world to watch us sports,
(01:19:39):
Like this isn't even us being you know what I'm saying,
this is this is the facts, Like I don't the
numbers are there, the stats are there, like run shit. Yeah.
I feel like people just get they just want to
be here. So when it comes to the UFC, we
just have to come to accept that, like, bro, this
is the premier league. Now with that being said, there
are other forms of martial arts that I feel like
will be big. So for example, like one Championship I
(01:20:02):
think is as big as it is because they don't
just do martial arts, Like here's straight jiu jitsu matches,
here's straight kickboxing, here's muay Thai. See the other forms
and then you, like you brought up earlier, you want
to now see more karate combat because you're like, bro,
like this is this is pretty sick and it is
give us different rule sets, different change ups. It's getting bigger,
Bro Street, you know what I'm saying. Like that, that's
(01:20:23):
that's like in someone's backyard, Like it can grow, but
it just has to be a little bit different. Don't
try to copy the UFC because you can't be Bro.
It's too late. I don't think you need a whole
different formula for your own ship. Yeah, them bros are
gonna get hit with monopoly charges before it happens. Yeah,
you might hell the sell that ship. Yeah, you have
to do somethhit like that, because that's why the every
(01:20:44):
now that we get so excited when we're on like
Twitter and we see like a Russian phone booth boxing match,
But when they're fighting a top of like moving U
ship shopping crates or whatever, and there'shipping containers, it's like,
what is what is going on? But they lock you in, Bro?
But then something about slap fighting doesn't get it. It
doesn't get me locked in. No, it does not. I
don't care for it.
Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
I don't feel like, like most cases you get knocked out.
Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
I'm a crazy person when it comes to watching random
strangers get knocked out on the Internet. I'm like, this
is crazy. Send to all of my group chats. But
when it comes to like the slap fighting, I'm like skip.
Like I think it's because you know what's going to happen,
like you, and it's too much. If you know what's
going to happen. If it's a clip, they're not going
to show you the one that didn't hit. No. If
(01:21:29):
I'm watching CCTV footage of outside of a gas station,
I'm like, what's gonna happen here, Let's see what happens.
And I see someone gets slept, I'm like, that's crazy. Send.
But when I'm watching slap fighting and I can see
the other guys bracing for dear life because he knows
the giant Samoan man is about to put him six
feet under. Yah, I No, I don't really care that much.
(01:21:50):
I don't really care. Like they win belts, they're professional
athletes and everything like that, and I'm, you know, all
happy for them. Get your bread to whatever you gets.
How that concussion feels like, I think you wake up
with the worst headache, worse than any of these because like,
you know, how like they say that when you get
knocked out, you get your belt wrong, that looks like
you got the you got your belt full rang. That
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is like the way he because if you watch somewhere
like they get knocked out and then they hit the
table and then drop, You're like, oh what what you
get Kaot? You got to come back get Kot again? Yeah,
now I trying to slap you. I hope that, like
I haven't tuned in to watch, but I hope that
if they get knocked out, that's it. It's not like
(01:22:33):
I think that any any entity you affiliate with the
UFC is very good at Like if you are put
in a bad spot, we're done. It's over. No more.
Versus like boxing and like you know you can get
up count of ten. It's like first to get knocked out. Yeah,
I think it's first to get knocked out or get
out or like the best slaps out of three. Just
get dragged out. Bro, you already the medical staff on
(01:22:57):
the hand must be crazy. You got, I mean, let's
get you see them drop the go limp like or
they either go limp or they go stiff either what
they sad? But it just like feet crossover Like he's
just like oh no, oh no, it's so bad. I
don't know what it is. Man. I just can't get
(01:23:18):
into it, Like I said, like people think I watched
these fights because I'm like I just want to see
somebody get knocked out, and I do, but like there's
a certain extent where like I feel bad, Like so
all right now that we're over with doing that t
to talk about people get knocked out real bad just
kind of like segway into this, bro. Like for example,
this past fight night with the homeboy that got a
batista bombed into the third dimension and then got those
(01:23:39):
two follow up shots. I felt bad for him, bro,
because when I saw him hit the ground and it
was head and neck first, immediately you saw the body
do this and lock up, and then the guy was
just like I bet he comes two more just for
good measure, because the ref isn't near me. He's on
his way. The ref was already like full spread motion
when the guy was already like here they come, like
(01:24:00):
you know what I'm saying, Like it was only it
was a matter of the ref not getting to him
fast enough. But that why you should have been stopped
the moment that had hit the ground, Like it was
so bad. It's just like I said it a couple
of times and I posted it on my page, but
like it's still because it was crazy, but like you
still feel bad, you know yet, but you.
Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Knock someone out, I think everybody needs a little one
to to come, like the confirmed kill, like when you kill,
when you shoot somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Jorge Mans what all one said, It's absolutely necessary. It's
absolutely absolutely necessary.
Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
I've seen times when you thought, like people thought they
knocked him out and you just get straight.
Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Back Jalen Turner versus not the one Kano you see
three hundred he thought he got to walk off ko
and then not the more kind of come back and
beats the ship out of him, like yeah, it happens, Like, bro,
you gotta make sure that moment. It's a weird. It's
a weird line to like to be there because you're
like I'm going to cross this line and kill this man,
or the ref is getting to me in time. It's
one of the other, because I'm gonna be honest with you.
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Just a couple of times where like it's like follow
up shots, but you can the guy is still like
kind of like woozy, He's still kind of there. He's
just taken on him. One of them versus the one
where like you could tell that the first hit on
the feet, that body went stiff or limp, and the
other two you're like, that's an unconscious body, like it
(01:25:13):
wasn't like they were like a little out of it. No, no, no,
you just h what do you do? Just wait, you
just look at the refles. I don't know. No, no,
I think you I think I think the rules stay
the same. I think until the ref pulls you off,
you do what you gotta do. I think the refic
definitely needs to get a little bit better. But at
the same time, like, I mean, what are you gonna do,
Like you're in a moment that it's split second decision.
People are moving so quick, and you knocked him out
(01:25:35):
on the feet and before you before he hits the ground,
you're already wound up for that follow up, so like
you know, can't get up. Yeah, it is what it is, bro,
It is what it is. Like, I don't know, I
don't know if you could.
Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
It's like you kind of knock him out, he's pretty
much knocked out, and then that one last like fucking
clip on the grounds.
Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Yeah, dude, there's a lot of them where you're just
like you executed him. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying like there's
a couple where like they don't clip them and they'll
drop to their knees and they're like trying to get
back up, and as they're trying to get back up,
it just like as I said, like they just get
clipped and he's like, oh man, it's bad. But you know,
you you I don't know. There's a couple of knockouts too.
(01:26:15):
You're like it's a You're like impressive, but that was
hard to watch, Like as a human you feel a
level of empathy. We're like that was a little difficult
to watch.
Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
At least he didn't feel the last two Hopefully.
Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Yeah, hopefully. I mean like I said this earlier and
I was like, when he's fifty six, it can barely
put together a sentence. He will fill them, but like
right now and I he's chill him, bros. Let's see
what else. Jocelyn Edwards also vicious ko U rare you
see women get a knockout like this. I don't know
if you watch it, but it was a three piece
combo to the fucking face and she hit that shorty
(01:26:49):
like a ton of bricks and dropped her. And I'm
talking three unanswered hooks clean to the jaw, dropped her stiff.
Shout out to Joscelyn Edwards. I love to see it,
love to see it. I mean, you see knockouts and
t ko's in the women's division, but like it's where
you see one where you're like, get that on the
highlight reel. That's that's being posted everywhere. Yeah, she man
(01:27:11):
with the head kick, you know what I'm saying, Like
stuff like that, you see those every now and then,
you always see the man. Why am I blank? Valentina Shipchenko, Jessica,
I that's a clip for the ages. Valentino Shipchenko hits
the shorty with a head kick that sounds like a
baseball bat, like cleaning home run, and this girl does
not get up for several minutes, several minutes. It's pretty bad, Amanz.
(01:27:37):
Chris Cyborg thousand vicious knockout too. She she cleaned her
up good. But all those are so few and far between.
I feel like, so when you get a good one,
you're like, this is this is this is real good.
Joscelyn Edward's on her way to the top. I feel
like I think that she's got some crisp striking right now.
So that's the name to look out for, man, I'm
just telling you to look out for these names. Other
than that. Another name to look out for, also off
(01:27:57):
of this past fight night card is Anthony Fluffy her Nandez.
I don't know if you saw him. He got his
lunch money back from Roman Dolit. That was a bully
beat down. I don't know what Roman did to him,
but he beat the ship out that man. Bro. The
way he finished, when he finished the fight by it
wasn't even like a regular choke. He just kind of
looked like your older brother just like put you in
(01:28:19):
a headlock him across the walk to God and then
he was just like, all right, I'm good, bro, I'm
done with this. I'm done with this, like I'm fine.
I don't think he I think he tapped just being
done Like I think he's like, I'm done, Bro, I'm
wrapped up. You beat the ship, you got it. It's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
A bout a freaking water melon in my head, Like freaking.
Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Yeah, Roman is. Roman is gonna be sore for the
next couple of days. Bro. He definitely took a He
took a pretty bad ass open yeah, man, that it was.
It was a good good couple of fights this past
couple of weeks. I ain't gonna lie to you. I
feel like we had a little bit of a lull obviously, Guys,
we mostly do these cards when it's a pay per
view or in this case going forward uh premium live event.
It's gonna be weird. Calling him p l E s
(01:28:57):
PLS sounds like a drug. I was like a drug.
It sounds like a hey, we're flipping him. I'm addicted.
Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
I'm addicted to the pluh be hooked.
Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Big fight announcement just because he's my boy, Charles olivera
versus physive or physiev that's going down in October. Do
you think it's too early for Charles to take a
fight against somebody who hits his hardest physive, like four
months since he knocked out by Ilia.
Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
In a way, I feel like he needs after that loss,
needs to somewhat remain relevant.
Speaker 6 (01:29:30):
Four months though, after getting Lean knocked out, I think
he should have liked waited for.
Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
This December, right, hold him off until December. But like.
Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
I get like, we don't want you, man, I don't
want to see him fall off, like disappear.
Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
For Charles loss from what I gathered in. I don't
speak Portuguese, but when I gathered he did say something
along the lines of he ain't no bitch, I'm not
gonna lie to you. That's that's kind of what it is.
He said, Oh yeah, and he pretty much just like,
I don't care what happened. We move on to the
next one and I will get my belt back. So
(01:30:08):
I don't know, ma, that's why they do it, Bro,
that we were talking about earlier. These guys like we
go to work and we clock in and to go
get our bread, to go feed our families and do
what we gotta do. These dudes go fight in a cage.
So like when they decide that they want to fight.
Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
All shit, I'm gonna go fight for my life. Well,
you say to pay my bills, you say.
Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Yourself all the time. They gotta be a little tap
to be in the UC. This is where the little
tap comes in where they're like, I just got knocked
out four months ago, but I'm back in electrician. Bro. Yeah,
you really could have. You really could have. You could
have could the h fact certification. I could have gotten
hold it down and that bills paid. Yeah, yeah, you
chose to fight in your underwear in front of thousands
(01:30:47):
of people at the beginning. You don't get paid, ship nothing.
He's just enough, O got enough for the for this month.
That's why I love the story. I love the stories
of like when they talk about like their families that
are just like holding it down for them, because like
you got to have a lot of love for somebody
to be like, oh, yeah, you only make twenty thousand
dollars a year and after you pay your bills, it's realistically,
you're not making anybody for four years. Gotch you? Yeah,
I love you enough to stay with you. That's crazy work, bro,
(01:31:11):
that's crazy. That's how like when Destin Porie was retiring
and he was talking about his wife just holding it
down the whole time, was like, bro, shout out to her, bro,
because like that's a commitment. Granted, I know a lot
of these guys will have the best. You got to
be the best. You got to put everything, Bro, I'm
not seeing my kids. No. No. And then it's it's
a different sport than other sports where like at least
they have like school pipelines so you can kind of
(01:31:31):
go through you're not paying a whole lot or even
get to the college level where they pay you to
be there, not like that, but like in termse of
like scholarships. But for MMA, it's you. It's fully you.
Even if you get if you get into a team
and you're at like you pay to be on the team, Like,
it's not you now get paid to be there. That
doesn't how that works. Like these coaches, these these organizations
(01:31:53):
that are they're part of, they get a cut of them,
and also the management and this and the third So
it's like that's all I can label itself. It is
they're all in three sixty deals. Yeah, everyone is in
a three sixty deal somehow three sixty deal. That's why
when I we were talking to open up the show
where I'm talking about the UFC is now making those
seven point seven billion over the seven years and the
(01:32:14):
U see, the fighters ain't seeing none of that. The
UC ain't sharing none a dollar of that.
Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
One the fighters might not care, but I know a
lot of the managers and coaches are definitely.
Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
I think going forward, the negotiations are going to be
a little bit more aggressive because now they know what's
in their pockets. But I think for the most part,
I think they're still going to be like, if you
don't shut the fuck up and take this little check
to give you, you will go to the PFL.
Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Best I have, Like, like, man, I know I see
all the numbers what y'all making and my company, Yeah,
I know what y'all making every fucking year.
Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Yeah, I better stop paying up. Nope, nope, nope, are
shut the fuck up? That's what That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Like, it's the same thing unless
everybody decides that they're gonna get together and they're gonna
be like, all right, we're notf I and unless we
get paid more or whatever it's going to be, you
just ain't gonna see it happen. Not a soul is
going to sign up for that. Like it's just not
(01:33:07):
anybody in the UC's gonna get paid more minus like
maybe four names they go on striking. Even then, when
we're talking, when we're talking champions, I would argue, like DDP,
even if he gets this win, I would still say,
is not a big enough start to argue that much
with the UFC currently, Morob is not that big of
a start to argue with the UC. JDM is not
that big of a start to argue with the UC.
(01:33:28):
Maga mat on Calia definitely ain't that big of a
start to argue with the US people. Even Tom aspinall
not big enough to argue with the UFC. Pantosia, I
just listened to almost all the male champions, because the
women are already in their own little thing where they're
already struggling to begin with. They're on co mains. They
don't even get main events. Now imagine you're over here
and you're used to this, you getting ship, yo, bro, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
These UFC champions are really none of them are superstars,
except maybe Islaud because the memes.
Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Even in the technically he's not he's not a champion anymore.
Oh yeah, he had to give he had to give
up the bell. Eliot Taporia, I would argue, is like
the biggest name worldwide, but so Alex Pere maybe, but
he's not a champion anymore. We're just talking. We're talking champions.
Alexander Pantojia, Rob Dewalash Billy, Alexander Volkonowski, uh Alioporia. Technically still,
(01:34:16):
I guess at lightweight, I don't know what's.
Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Going on there because of the John Jones stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Even then, people still don't know who he is.
Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
People still don't even know who he is.
Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
J D M D d P, Malcolm Nakayev, Tomas bro
these champions are they're not big names. And then for
the women, you have Jangway Lee, Valentina Schipchenko and Kayla Harrison.
Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Jangway Lee, unless I would say maybe maybe her, maybe her,
what's the.
Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
East she's not on the China card. I don't think
which is crazy? Give her not? She deserves pay per view.
That's a that's a pay per view. Yeah, I feel
like I'm intrigued to see what they do with the money. Bro.
This there's so much money now. I feel like to
go around, but it's gonna stay up top. I feel
like it's not going to get dispersed anybody. McMahon fucking yeah. Yeah.
I'm intrigued to see if they if they up production
(01:35:04):
value or something like that, Maybe they go a little
bit more visually in something like they get walkouts and whatnot,
the fears like more consistent. Maybe, I don't know. It
seemed like it was really expensive and I feel like
those are you saved those for every couple of years.
I feel like you make that a special thing every
now and then. But if you do it all the time,
it's not a school. And if it's always for the
same thing, it's like you have to come up with
(01:35:26):
a new idea every single year for the same thing.
It's a little tricky. But save it for some cool fights,
like I don't know, maybe it's a ways away. But
saving for the like UC four hundred or something like that,
I feelt that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
You shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
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Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
Peace.
Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
I
Welcome everybody to another episode of an educated MMA. I'm
your host with the most wonder and of course I'm
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hell yeah, another episode of educated MMA.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
You have to say it. You were like, I'm an
educated and I'm watching MMA and you're watching and educated
at logan at the bottom. I'm t shirt, So that
ship would be real funny. Yeah, man, welcome back guys
to another episode. This is gonna be a good one.
We got some breaking news of news from the ufcuh,
(00:56):
some big exciting stuff to do with Brandy. Let's see
where they're where. They're now going to be showing the
UFC fights, Let's see what else, what else, distribution, it's
going to be shaking up the landscape, big shake and
the pay per views. I hear, yeah, that's that's the
word going around town. Man. So this is this is
kind of let's get into this because I feel like
(01:17):
it's crazy to me that I feel like so UFC
three nineteen is this weekend, and I feel like this
news immediately overshadowed all of it. Like I feel like
I immediately stop seeing anybody post anything about DDP or
homs out or anything like that. I don't see none
of that. But yeah, let's just get right into the
breaking news when it comes to this, so uh preaking news.
(01:38):
The UFC have signed a seven point seven billion with
a B dollar deal with Paramount Plus to stream their
events exclusively through them for the next seven years. So
that's one point one billion dollars per year. Yeah what
(01:59):
what that's insane? Bro? Shout out tell them getting that bag.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I seen something where he like started, like he
paid Speke TV ten million dollars just to start.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's like you went from.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Ten millions flipping it, flipping that seven point seven billion.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, they're they're getting paid crazy, and I will say
it like everybody else is. And the fighters still like it. Yeah, right,
makes no sense. What can we we negotiate? What contrary? Bro?
I think that this is going to be the most
interesting part about the whole thing, because like it's crazy
when you know how much the company is making that
you feel like you're going to be like all right,
so I get I get some of that, right, And
(02:37):
they're like, nah, nah, none of that, what you mean
we just tripled that. Even they're like we who's this
Wii motherfuckers? It just like you just hear bro I
got paid put on a show, noct you know what
you do because that's a that's a part of it. Right.
So now with them moving over to this whole style,
(02:57):
like you said, pay per view apparently is dead. So
a lot of the big name fighters and a lot
of the champions, if not all of the champions, they
get pay per view points. So now do they change
their contracts? Do they get like a like a cut,
do they get a percentage? Is it like the amount
of streams they get? Do you get a portion of
that like or do they just up like their regular pay?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I guess like that. I think I've seen Dana say something.
It could have been a fake page too, but it
was saying that, like certain superstars will get different like
individual pay per view kind of things.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I could see that that makes sense, I feel like.
I mean, even now, they probably all have like a
different percentage when it comes to pay per view points.
So it would make sense for depending on how much
of a draw you are, how much bread you bring
to the table, they're going to give you x amount.
You know what I'm saying. I do feel that. I
think there's gonna be a lot of renegotiating that goes on.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm gonna be honest with you. With the lower level fighters,
I don't think that they're gonna get any sort of
a bigger cut. But at least with the champions and
like the big names that they have that have been
around for a while, they'll get a different cut.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I see Michael Chandler talk about it if.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
He don't Bro. The moment I saw him, I think
the Paramount shirt already, I was like this, this guy
is killing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
To try to keep a job out there.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
He's like, please, please don't let me go. I have
nowhere else to go.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Please Bro. Like he was just like supported that.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
AI. Everybody just needs to be patient.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Everybody is right away like trying to get renegotiate their
contracts without letting the dust settle and all this extra stuff.
And I'm thinking, like, Bro, shut up.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, they just got seven point seven bill. This is
moy Kano not taking the money. Yeah, it's like, Bro,
what are you doing do you talk about? You gotta
like company man, my ass. Bro, Like get out of here,
like take your check and keep it walking, especially with
when it comes to Michael Chandler, like you are in
no position right now like to be No, it's not
anti UFC obviously, but at the same time, yeah, like
(04:52):
just you know, keep keep it coming to yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, it's just very supportive of I think they're doing great.
I think they're being uh with the way they pay us,
except the fuck up bro, No they don't.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, I think it's just like starving out here. Bro.
That's how you see them take fights on short notice.
It's just like, what are you doing? And it's just
like I need to get paid the rent is still
doing rest.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Of imagine that, like really imagine that like that lifestyle
where like the rent being paid is due, like you
have to fight.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
When you scrapping somebody. Yeah, that's why I'm enamored by this.
This is the greatest sport of all time. That's what
they do. It's like literal survival talk. I was talking
about this. I was talking about this earlier where I
was saying that, like they are UFC fighters that have
regular nine to five jobs with also training and fighting
in the UFC, which is insane to me because like
your coworker that got that weird ear is over here,
(05:45):
knocking people out and getting knocked out on weekends just
to attempt to get to the UFC. I'd be exhausted.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, after a day of like training and like nine
to five talk.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
There's there's been guys that are like does it iron workers?
There were like one of them recently was a welder.
He just quit his job. There's been the one guy
that worked at a Texas roadhouse where he was fighting
in the UFC. Like, imagine you're working your server shift
a Texas roadhouse and then you got to go hit
the mats afterwards and you got to fight up coming
(06:18):
this weekend. Imagine you lose, and then you got to
serve the team that beat you. Like the guy sitting
there and he doesn't give you a tip, he's like one,
there's no tip, you're that bad Texas roadhouse? Yeah, sponsored
the PUD. Yeah. I just I feel like this is
(06:39):
going to be an interesting setup for them to see
who gets paid more and how that setup is going
to be. I feel like this opens up an opportunity.
I mean, I know that they're gonna let us down again,
but hopefully they all negotiate for higher pay. You know
what I'm saying. I know that they definitely won't unionize
or anything like that. I feel like it's really hard
to get these fighters to like band together to be
like we should all get paid more. No, right, But
(06:59):
apparently not from all the other analysts that I've seen
talk about it recently when it because everybody in the
grandmother is doing a pot on this. There is a
part of it where you can compare it now to
other professional sports in the sense of, like now the
broadcasting is on the same kind of level, especially because
they're going to be on not only paramoun Plus, but
they're also going to be on CBS has grown so much.
(07:20):
So like I don't know if you if you know this,
because I don't. I don't know the answer to this either.
But apparently, like for example, like in the NBA, like
the players get like a good percentage of like the
revenue that comes from the broadcast deals. Yeah, the UFC
fighters aren't going to see any of that. So do
you think that they'll be able to like renegotiate to
get at least a piece of the pie of that,
Because this is this is he's going to say it.
They have already I think more than doubled their amount
(07:43):
of money they were getting per year as an organization
by the making this deal. So like the fighters don't
see any of that. That's crazy, I know, right, it's
like the how cheap, very very super even.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's gonna be a weird time, I guess, like shout
out to like the I know the CERN fight is
about to get fucking paid though.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh facts, I hope so bro you know, like like
so the ones that are on ice right now because
this doesn't start until the beginning of next year twenty
twenty six, just in case, depending on when you're watching this,
that is going to be like the Iliotaporious unless he
fights in like December and whatnot. Like those guys they're
gonna eat off of that. I feel like that because
I like I do think they're gonna get some sort
(08:29):
of incentive to be or I guess that's part of
being the champion is that you get paid very different.
So there's gotta be some sort of like compensation that's
equal to the pay per viewpoints. And like I said,
it's either gonna be your overall pay like the entry
and the win money is going to be a lot more,
or there's gonna be some sort of percentage off of
like streams for that that day or something like that,
(08:50):
because like I don't know, man, Like, do you think
that there'll be people that are gonna subscribe to Paramount
plus just to watch that day? I think in general,
I think people will just have it.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I think people will get Paramount plus plus to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
You or seeing in general. That's what I'm saying, Like
you would just have it, you would just subscribe to it,
because how many.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Kind of weird because they like they're a child is kind.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Of they're trying to get into sports man, They're.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Very like Nickelodeon stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So, you know how like sometimes when something gets bought
by Disney, it kind of gets a little To be.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Fair, I've been watching ESPN Plus through Disney Plus this entirely. Yeah,
so while it's continue watching uh this fight night, I
got Star Wars the Clone Wars right next to it,
and then one episode of Coco Mela and I had
to watch after watching Weapons when I got home. Other
than that, you know what I'm saying, Like, I feel
like it doesn't make it's nothing different to me, especially nowadays,
(09:46):
Like I guess it's all your algorithm based, But after
a while, I feel like they kind of stopped showing
you that stuff and they just show you whatever you're
watching now. I'm not gonna hate if you're watching these
children's animated TV shows. You know what I'm saying. Everybody
loves like chowder, you know what I'm saying. Okay, Okay,
the Amazing World of Gumball.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I was watching Ninja Turtles, Solid Show, Solid Bro, the
one for the two thousand son Early.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You've been getting into like random nostalgic Transformers and now
TML I.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Tap into because you know, when we were younger, we
saw all of this shit. We saw all this shit
fuckings like random episode.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah you never saw it one by half yeahah.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
When you like watch, when you go back and you
understand it, it's like, oh that.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
There was a story behind it. Yeah yeah yeah, and
actually I get that. I totally get that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh I didn't understand any of this. I just thought
it was cool because it was fighting.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah. No, I felt like a part of me did
that for a bit. I went through and watched most
of the Power Ranger shows that I watched Netflix Netflix
when I was when I like, I think it was
like when it first came out or like roughly when
it got popular, I want to say, around like twenty thirteen,
twenty fourteen or something like that. They had almost all
of them, like that was for whatever reason. One of
(10:54):
their library was just all Power Ranger everything, and I
just went through show by show by show by show.
They also did not have like you did not have
to tune in every episode to get the story. There
was a lot of filler they were. They're very like
anime ish in now, where they're like, yeah, there's story,
but we're also going to give you like four episodes
in between that just have nothing to do with anything,
but we want to make this character cool for some reason.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You do.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It's fine, it's fun. But I think that Paramount plus
is just like looking to change the way that they're
braining themselves. Is also with like getting the UFC upon this.
It's going to be I believe, a total of thirteen.
It's no longer going to be called pay per views.
I heard the term earlier. WWE uses this term a lot.
(11:40):
What is it pl E, I think is what it
is premium live event. So that's what it will be.
It won't be pay per views anymore. It'll be a
premium live event something along those lines, and they'll have
thirteen of them the same way that they have now,
and those will be the numbered cards, so like three
twenty two, three twenty three through twenty four, those will
be the premium live events. And then they're going to
have let me say, I think I have it here
(12:01):
in my notes, they're gonna have about thirty fight nights
that are gonna be spread out throughout the year. Same
thing on Paramount Plus. But then I've been getting some
weird mix of numbers so I don't know what the
true number is here. I heard four events on CBS,
and then I also heard that they're gonna just mirror
Paramount Plus on CBS, so if you have CBS, you'll
(12:23):
be able to get a lot of the fight nights anyway,
So I don't know if that means that like cable. Yeah,
I don't know if it's what that is the way
I said it, where it's like they're only gonna have
four or they're gonna have a bunch, or if that
means they're gonna have a bunch, and then they're gonna
have four of the numbered ones that you're also gonna
be able to watch on CBS. I think that that's
a better move personally, if you want to have fans
(12:44):
tune in to watch the UFC. You get the big
name stars that you're already branding like crazy, which will
be on the on the premium live events, and you
get them on CBS, where then you can show it
at like your local sports bar, rather than have it
hidden behind some stupid ass paywall. Like I keep complaining
all the time, it's such a pain for me to
go to go watch a fight unless I want to
go to Buffalo Wild Wingers. Who's right? Who's right? If
(13:07):
they change up, I'll entertain the sponsorship, they change up
the menu a little bit, or give your local gentlemen's clubs,
which I cannot frequent very often. Yeah, so they need
to switch it up. I want to give us the
UFC spot. Yeah, I just want to spot that has
two wings that I can go watch fights that aren't
like you know what I'm saying crazy. But yeah, I
(13:28):
think that this will change it up a lot, and
now you get more casual fans that will get into it.
And then let's say you go and there is only
four spread out throughout the year, but you're watching on
CBS a UFC pay per view and you're like, yo,
this is dope. I want to watch this a little
bit more. And you find out it's on Paramount Plus.
You pay the eight nine bucks or whatever it is
for the ad version or I think it's like thirteen
fourteen for the premium version, and you got paramun Plus.
(13:49):
You can watch all the UC events you want, and
then apparently that's it's just comes with a subscription. It's
going to be everything altogether. You don't understand how happy
I am to burn ESPN plug.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
SPN Plus sucks so bad.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Like I said earlier, I have to go through Disney
Plus to watch it because in and of itself, ESPN
Plus is such a bad like such a bad apt
to move around.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Bro b this. So I'm watching the Ultimate Fighters.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, I bet, I bet you have to do forty screens.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So yeah, I go at to find UFC first at
the find Ultimate Fighters, so Ultimate Fighters freaking four hundred seasons, yeah,
and then I have to scroll it has it of
course at the top is the most recent, so I
have to scroll all the way to the bottom, sucking
to the first. I bet I met UFC Ultimate fighter three.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Tell me tell me this right, every other streaming service
that you've used, right, they all just go, you were
just watching this right here?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, why can't you do that? You say, I came
across the continue watching is at the bottom of the screen.
If you go into you you go into your home page,
scroll all the way down and you'll find continue watching.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And it's like, why is this under all the random
NCAA Division III golf. I don't need to see that.
That's not what I'm watching. That's not what I have
you here for. Because then it sucks is that when
you're setting it up, they're like, what are your favorite sports?
And I'm like, UFC, I selected nothing else. Yeah, using
this app for one reason and one reason only. UC
They're like, all right, cool golf, tennis this time. I'm like, bro,
(15:23):
I don't care about any of this, and I don't
like that they don't continue watching. I don't like that
they don't give you recommendations based off of what you're watching. So,
for example, hey, if you notice that every single Saturday
I'm watching this, put this at the very front when
I get here on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
AI, Right, you don't even need much, just have your
AI sorted out, thank you. It just doesn't make any
sense of It's like going on the ESPN dot com page. Yeah,
it feels like when you're going through.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
That the last pay per view or the last fight
night of the year is going to be like a
celebration of like someone's past, Like I'm gonna be so
happy that they're gone. You have that, Like I even
if it crashes, just for the amount of people that
might be watching, I'm gonna be so happy to be
able to just go in Paramount plus bill ye click there.
It is because they at least do that where they'll
(16:14):
be like, oh, you continue watching, here's your thing, or
you watch these here's a recommendation on this, because like
how cool would it be to be like, all right,
you just watched a fight and it's a fighter you've
never seen before, and you just watch like a fight
night for example, that's like the main event. After it finishes,
the fight night's over, and they now give you recommendations
of like their other fights or something like that. Like
that cool? That makes sense. Yeah, I think that this
(16:37):
is going to be a move in the good direction,
like a good direction, especially like if it gets more
people involved in the sport that are more like on
the casual side of things. I'm not gonna lie to you.
It's pretty trash. To be able to watch UFC, you
have to pay for ESPN and then that'll get you
the fight nights, and then you have to then pay
extra every single month to be able to watch the
pay per views. Now, I'll tell you this, most people
(16:59):
aren't gonna do that. And I'll tell this most people
that I know they watch how they're gonna watch it? Yeah,
I'm gonna watch it. Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. You
can watch it. How you gonna watch it? That's it, bro,
That's it? Like, how are you gonna watch? You gonna
watch it? Bro? I haven't seen everybody saying goodbye to
a lot of those old faithfuls. I'm gonna tell you
right now. I don't think those old faithfuls are going
away anytime soon. Now this will be there.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I didn't like I see them meme, but I didn't
like that my old faithful was on there.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, I know right whoaa? Yeah you mean you get
too popular? You get her? So you see the name
publicly like oh you're next to the stream east ye
like you listen to they shouldn't know you like that. Yeah,
you should not be hanging out with those people. What
I'm saying, they canna get you in trouble bro. It's
it's so funny to me because it's like I I
(17:45):
think that there is this idea that it's it's gonna
kill pay per views and it's gonna be great, And
the fans definitely got a w on this one for sure,
one hundred percent I agree. But I will say there's
still a squad of people that I know are asking me,
they're asking you and everybody in the grandmother for a
password to get into what you think that that person's
not gonna watch it? How they're gonna watch it like
(18:07):
you know, Yeah, Like they're gonna they're gonna go to
the website. They're gonna go ahead, They're gonna find the street.
Bro Kabeeb himself goes bro that Russian link, Like, what
are you talking about? Like everyone in their grandmother is
gonna they're gonna still do their thing. So I don't
know exactly how many people are now gonna tune in
through Paramount Plus. I don't know how that money's gonna work.
(18:27):
I don't know if the deal is like guaranteed. I
already have it. You know what I'm saying, this is
gonna be a plus for me?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I was, wow, I'm wondering, do I let go of
my ESPN Plus?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I'm getting rid of ESPN Plus because I haven't any bundle. Well,
so that's what I think. I think that bundle is
just gonna go away. But here's another thing to go
with that though, with Disney, at least with Disney Plus.
I heard that, like Hulu is gonna go away and
it's just gonna be Disney because that's already how they
have it. So what's the y'all better change that price?
I think it's just gonna be like locked. Like so
(18:57):
if you decide that you don't want to pay for
ESPN or you don't want to pay for Hulu, those
options on there are just going to be locked and
you just can't use them unless you want to pay
for them, which honestly cool with me, That's perfect. I
found me because like on Hulu now, yeah, on Hulu now,
if you don't have live TV and you try to
go to like watch something that's only on live TV,
it tells you you can't watch it. You don't have
this type of subscription. Have it like that. That's fine.
(19:18):
That way you at least know the option is there
and if you choose to buy because you want to
watch it, it's there. But you don't have to. I'm going
to be honest with you. Ain't shit on you on
ESPN that I want to watch. There's nothing I watch
one sport, guys, there's one sport and it will say
that type.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
This is the Ultimate Fighter, that's all I've been watching
what's it called the Contender Series.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So that's what I want to know as well. When
it comes to this deal, it seems like they said,
UFC and you have all of the content, but they
only really talk about all the fights that are Fight
Nights and again premium live events. They don't talk about
the Contender Series, they don't talk about the Ultimate Fighters,
they don't talk about all these other side shows that
they do. So a part of that, I wonder are
(20:01):
they included they just didn't bring it up, or are
those available to be shopped around and maybe those will
be available on something else because they also still have
Fight Pass. So fight Pass is another monthly subscription that
this is directly from the UFC that's what you can
watch all like the jiu jitsu stuff. They have like
Road to UFC, which is like when they go to
like Asia and they get like a bunch of Asian
fighters and they get them to get like more of
(20:22):
a fan base over there to bring them over to
the US. So there's other methods that they can go
abound it. Or is Paramount just gonna be like no,
we actually do want all of it. We paid you
this much, it's gonna be all of seven seven billion.
I want them. Apparently, according to sources, Paramount plus is
worth like six point five or six point six billion dollars.
(20:42):
So they wrote them a check that they're the bigger
than what they're worth. I don't know. Hey, they got
plans man the cut. I'm here for the ride.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be a
long time. I don't know if it's gonna be an
risk out here. They we've all put it all all black. Yes, no,
there we go. So CBS wrote the check. Okay, that
makes way more scent. CBS got money Like that, CBS
got money. Well, another thing did you go with that too?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Is also they were talking they had a press conference
and they were talking with Data White about the fourth
of July UFC event. He said, live on CBS, and
that's could be crazy. I think that might be bigger
than the Super Bowl that year. I think so. I
would say, so a UFC.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Event event of the best like card that you could
possibly come up with in the yard, in the front yard.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Of the White House. Yeah, what what is it?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like the way what's the anniversary.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
To the two twenty fifth or some anniversary of America?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, it's like, bro, what else? But like to have something,
ex fighting the biggest event in the fucking.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Country, that'd be pretty big. That would be crazy. Let's see. Yeah,
two hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I feel like you never get forgotten, Like I No,
that's what I thought at the only freaking UFC event
at the White House.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'd be excited to be on the early prelim.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah yeah, I'm literally a legend now.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah. Yeah, I think that that's gonna be a big one.
I'm interested to see what they do with that, because
I don't that doesn't fall on International Fight Week, which
is usually the end of June. So are they gonna
just have two stacked back to backyards. And I would
feel a little played if I was on International Fight
Week and out on the one next, like, I feel like,
be like, put me on that one? Am I not
big enough to be on the fourth of July? The
economic has fucking fun, right, you know he's gonna end
(22:34):
up on this.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I see I see him posting more like training videos.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Get him out of it.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
He's like, Bro, don't come around here trying.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
To hit like you gotta be on that anybody cares anymore.
I feel like his fight could be announced and I'm
gonna be honest with you, he's gonna be even though
he'll get a main event, don't him second on the
on the main card. And I don't think anybody would
bad at I. I really don't think people will care that.
People would be like, oh okay, I'd be surprised if
he did that to him. I think I don't think
he needs.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
To do is squash his beef with Kobebe and go
over there for two three years, three years like he
needs to get he needs to tap out of that
uh fucking luxury living for a second.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, uh drug abusing bro. Muslim Connor would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Muslim Connor would he converts.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And everything he just comes back the same set of
the shame mustache, just the beard.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Just the beard comes back. Just the beard. Forget the mohawk,
get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, no no bald, bald, no mustache, beards and like strong.
I think he disciplined, strong, strong here and strong appear.
Yeah it's gonna be. That's a willful Connor.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I think caught it like has a chance if he
really like he doesn't even have to train with kobebe
with them. But I think if he changes his whole
lifestyle again, yeah, he needs to just I want to
see clips. Are you farming in Ireland? But I you
go back to your roots and that's the only way
I feel like you have a slight chance of winning
(24:05):
a fight.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, you think the yacht living and the cheets is over.
He needs to just like tap out.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
He's like, I need to see him like fucking cutting
pieces of wood.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. In the fucking He's
just like completely now, I get what you mean, man,
And there is the level of that where you like,
you see the lifestyle that he's living now and you're like, bro,
there's no level of training that you can do that
you can get because, like I'd argue, it's different than
like in Iliot Tuporia, who I feel like I see
for the most part, like him living luxury and certain spurts,
(24:36):
but for the most part it's him on the hard work,
training and grinding and whatnot. Whereas Connor, for the most part,
I just see him in a suit, either leaving a
courtroom or he's off like having some sort of party. Damn, yeah,
you get your deals back. I was like, bro, it's
pretty bad. It's pretty bad. I think. I think that's
why it's like image wise and then also career wise,
(24:59):
I think he just needs to take the money he
has because he still has a good amount of money
and just go over there. Just go over there.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And then trying to run for president. And at the
same time as all of this, yeah, like you're fucking
out of your mind.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
He's also running or partly running bare knuckle fighting championship. Yeah.
So he's got a lot of you know what I'm saying,
he's man with many hats, but I don't think any
of them are really bro any of them are really
fitting well right now. But anyway to just kind of
like tie a bow on this whole thing. So yeah,
So seven year deal with Paramount Plus last CBS for
seven point seven billion dollars starts in twenty twenty six.
(25:33):
Allegedly no more pay per views, we will see, because
Dana White was like, I don't know about normal pay
per views. Thirteen number premium events, live events, as we'll
call him, with thirty fight nights mainly on Paramount Plus,
with a few on CBS for free. In other news, also,
UFC plans to expand the UFC Apex to include another
five thousand to ten thousand fans. So that's going to
(25:54):
be exciting because I think that that's the part that
kills it about the apex. Like at first when it
was COVID, it was cool because they're like, all right,
we got fights, nobody cares. After a while, we're like,
there's no fans, there's no energy. It's weird, Like you
don't have that kind of like hype. It's cool analytically
if you just want to hear the sounds and you
want to hear the coaches and stuff like that. Smack, yeah, yeah,
(26:15):
you know what it's like for me with the APEX.
Every now and then it's a little refreshing because It's
like it's like when you're playing a video game and
it's like a custom kind of like fight arena kind
of thing. Like Apex gives it like a different flair.
I mean, be honest with you, Like I couldn't really
tell you the differences between all the arenas when it
comes to them being inside, Like I couldn't tell you
what's different than the other ones. Besides like maybe the fans,
(26:37):
Like I know that certain places they go to it's like, oh,
this this place has way more energy than this place
over here. But other than that, not really a whole
lot you can tell in terms of structure or whatever.
The APEX you can tell when they're not at the
Apex though, So I do like it here and there,
but I feel like maybe adding a couple more fans
would make it more of an excitement, you know. I
feel like more cheers, more booze, more like just energy,
(26:59):
and in the arena, I feel like it'd be a
lot better because they only got like what fifteen twenty
people right now, So at another five to ten k
it's cool with me, We're gonna pull up. I would.
I would a little quick flight to Vegas. I'll do it.
Let's see, let's see, let's see. Oh, one thing also,
I want to I wanted to ask you real quick
to see just your early prediction on this one to
go with this. Do you think, because now they're tied
(27:23):
to Paramount plus and CBS specifically, are we still having
on Eastern Standard time here in the East Coast ten
pm main cards or are they gonna start earlier? That's
what I'm thinking. I don't think at all. I think
there's gonna be eight pm, six pm? You think so,
I think? So what else on CBS? Is that late?
(27:45):
You want? Again? You want the general public to tune
in to watch this event. The main card is not starting.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
At Tokyo, but I think violent stuff like that goes
on a nine pm. It wasn't my I'm like the
cutoff of like, oh now we getting into some more
teenage or shit.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I guess so, but even then I feel yeah, But
then but then like would you because like right now
the model goes usually it's like six to eight pm
is when the prelims start with the main card and
such starting at like eight to ten pm. So then
you would then even start even later, and then you
would have no fan base like that that I think
(28:24):
is the opposite direction from where you want to go.
So I think at this point they're gonna be like,
you're gonna be okay with the violence, and you're gonna
enjoy it, and it's kind.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Of like boxing is the same thing, where it's just
always like a late ass fucking fight.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, well, maybe maybe they'll do because like the way
that they do it now with the ABC, maybe they'll
do it where like the pre limbs and such will
be on Paramount Plus and then the main card will
start at eight pm on CBS and then you can
watch it on both So that way, it is still
technically later, but it's not a whole night worth of fights,
you know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Sayings shows a lot of sports.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
They're not giving you a whole Saturday. Use he's not
taking over the whole Saturday now, so it has to
be late.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
So I think that that idea is well three on
Paramount and then main card mic at that time.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
That does make sense, Yeah, just be cause you guys
couldn't hear him out because he doesn't have a mic
right now. But basically he said that CBS has a
lot of sports on that network as it is so
to give UFC an entire Saturday is pretty insane. He
did agree with me that it does make sense for
them to just have it where it's just like the
main card, where it's only a couple of fights beyond
like eight or nine pm, versus having an entire Saturday
(29:37):
dedicated to one sport, which does make sense. I do
think that they're gonna have to like split that, but
that's why. I also I think part of it is
only the four fights on CBS rather than it being
like consistent Saturdays with it.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I think it's going to be like late as as
it's always been, just for the fact that, like growing
up sports, we'd watch our sports, maybe the football game
beyond and then after the football game ends, it was
WWE something, And I feel like w W was always
thrown in there in the in the end of Madden.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
It was yeah, sports, it was it was later on
in the night, for sure, it was. It was weird.
It was like met for like teen adults, so they
just kind of expected you to be a little like
up a little later six seven pm, like I wrap
it up or whatever.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
It is different on this is a post cable era.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I don't know when did when did like Nicked night
and Adult Swim start ten, All right, that's pretty late
to Yeah, I don't know. They might keep yeah, they
might keep it the same. My only concern is that, like, listen,
we got jobs, bro, like like and everybody that's a fan.
I think for the most part, it is like eighteen
or thirty five. Like that's a working age right there, man, Like,
(30:40):
it's tough to stay up late when it's one two
in the morning and you're trying to watch this main event.
You're like, I'm excited, but the adrenaline can only go
so far. Yeah, it's it's beautiful when we have an
earlier card, even like in a couple of weeks when
they have that the card in China that starts at
six am, I'm excited. Yeah, I'll wake I would wake
up early. Serial in hand, like it's Saturday morning cartoons
(31:03):
to watch fights. I don't care about when they do it.
When they do like the the UK cards and stuff
like that, and it's an afternoon fight, bro, come on, Like,
that's beautiful. Even then, Actually they go completely different and
they're like it's Saturdays but in the afternoon. That'd be different.
If they were like no, no, no, we're still doing it
on Saturdays, but now it's going to be main card
starts at two o'clock middle of the day. Yeah, cool
(31:25):
with that, perfectly fine. I think that it'd be difficult
because like I don't know they had, Like you said,
they have to compete with other sports, so like that
primetime slot from I feel like seven to ten is
going to be very difficult to see who gets that.
And they're on every Saturday. They gotta be so like
that's all They'll get a couple But like I wonder
when you know what off season sport are they cool with?
(31:47):
Like college is going to.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Be college football because that's like a huge thing, yep.
And then what's after that? The CBS even show Uh,
they're don't show baseball.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Do they. I don't have cable bro, I couldn't. I
couldn't tell you. The CBS part doesn't affect me at all.
The Paramount plus part does. One hundred CBS is in Spanish,
m I say, CBS. I thought about opening the show
today in Spanish and like, I don't know why he
did the countdown and immediately I forgot about to hit him.
(32:20):
That ens no, But yeah, I think it'll be an
interesting and interesting time in twenty twenty six. We'll see
how it goes. I mean, I locked in, I guess
for seven years. I don't know if there's a way
out of it, but it's I think I think it'll
be way well, but I think it'll be an interesting time.
I like the idea that there's no more pay per views,
Like I said, everyone gonna watch them, how they're gonna
(32:42):
watch them?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
But like the last uh, there's nothing else that does
pay per view?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
No, not really. It was like them Boxing and the
w W E the w W stuff a couple of
years ago. I think Boxing will still probably do it
for a while. Get pay per view movies and yeah,
now not really. Everybody in the grandmother does like this.
It's streaming services and then like they don't have like.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
It's the finesse in a way. Well, like how do
you how do you value you a stream? You can
just decide, Like it's different.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
How do you value anything, bro? It's not let's get
that tenfoil half firm on there? Bro? How do you
value anything you like?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
For music that people get pennies for streams?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah? So what are we doing? I don't know I
don't know how how they break it down in terms
of like cost per stream, like how many people divided
by the subscription price or whatever it might be. But
I think that they have it down in a way
that it's Another part of it is also is this
only going to be in like the US or were
also talking about like is this also including internationally? I
(33:41):
don't know how far paramount plus is. I don't know
if you can go to paramount plus and like some
different country and it counts as the same thing. Something
licensing is different, like.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Like it's something in it's definitely gonna be like different.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
There's other countries that have licensing to the stream like
the UFC that they that contract isn't going to expire
for a couple more years, so like I know, in
like Canada, for example, there's another company that has the
rights to stream UFC on their platform and that's still
going for another four or five years. So I don't know,
I don't know when to know that contract is really
like US thing. Yeah, So I don't know, I don't
(34:14):
know how they get the money from that. Because then
also a part of that is like I said, like
how do you then factor and you getting the money
back for what you spent based off of that, there's
a lot of mathematics that I don't know. There's a
way above my pay grade that hopefully, hopefully somebody out
there gives me a nice, crisp, detailed YouTube video that
I can kind of watch that breaks down for me,
(34:34):
because right now I couldn't tell you. Let's see anything
else to go over before we get into the fights
you want to go over. Do you want to go
over the fights and then get into what happened recently?
Do you want to just get in all the recent
stuff and then get into this upcoming pay per view.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
M I say, let's go over the pay per view pay.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Per view first and then we'll get into the random stuff.
I don't cool with that. Let's do it, ladies and gentlemen,
it's hard to get out on your headphones. Upcoming we
have UFC three nineteen DDP Drinkis Duplessi versus Hamsam I
have for the one eighty five middleweight title. Um sucked.
I know, right, you gotta bro the way he'd be
(35:14):
answering that, Mike, you got to hear him all the respect.
So this is going to be I think one of
the most anticipated pay per views of the year. I
believe if we go back to like the beginning of
the year and we were talking about our fighters and such,
Hamsa was brought up quite a few times where we
were all like, listen, this is the guy that we
want to see what happens with him because he's had
a lot of ups and downs with his medical situations.
(35:36):
Whether it's that I don't know, man, even I think so.
At this point, he's nothing confirmed, But at this point,
I feel like it's got to be something along those lines.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Always talking about like he can't be out in public.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Oh, he can't. He doesn't want to be New York
a coffin.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Kid I want, Yeah, I don't want to have a
chance of.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Meeting There's no dunkin Donuts line for him.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
You can't leave your house without getting sick is a
bad news.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
That's what I'm saying. Like, I think there's somebody going
on there where he really, like he really gets sick
a lot easier than most people. And I feel like
that kind of leans towards like there's some sort of
medical condition that he's not disclosing, which he doesn't have to,
Like listen, I totally understand you don't want to put
your business out there, but after a certain point, like
I would be concerned as a fighter to sign that
dotted line and be like are you gonna show up?
(36:21):
But then when he does, he fights just a chance. Yeah,
But then the crazy part is that when he does
show up, he's gonna kill you. Like yeah, yeah he shows.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Well, yeah, I was watching like the UFC.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Was it embedded yep?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
And again getting to see like behind the scenes him yep.
I didn't. I got to see the others, not the boogeyman.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
You know. He's humble. Yeah, Like I was like, he's
very humble.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I f I fox with the way they carry themselves
over there, he.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Did, there's a seves it's a level of Yeah, they
have a certain level of discipline, a high level of respect.
Like they they definitely are modest, humble, like kind of
like take care of the people.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, he was like over here, I'm not a superstar
to them, I'm just their brother.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, he's building a gym. He's like, this isn't for
me to train this for the kids, bro, Like I
have my own things set up. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah,
parents are not concerned who ud Be could be with
all the money he got reinvested. Islam reinvesting, like everybody's reinvesting,
Like they're putting their money with for the people and
their culture and their community, and it's great fire. I
think it's the way to be. I think for a
lot of like people like you, they do get those moments.
(37:32):
I feel like they immediately take care of their own first,
and then from there they'll kind of expand. But I
do see a lot of fighters end up taking their
money and they put it back into the community, like
you have Dustin Pooria has a whole foundation where he
gets back to the kids and stuff like that. Like
there's a lot of people that will end up doing that.
I feel like when you get to a point where
like all right, I'm comfortable, my family's secured, that's what
you do with the rest of it, Like you reinvest
(37:53):
you you put back, and you do what you can
to help out others, because then it only it only
comes back to you, like for example, like growing up
in Salem, Like if Salem got better, that only makes
me happier, Like I don't see how it getting worse
helps me at all, Like if I saw the kids
don't have well what is it Mary Jane Lee Park
or something like that. No more, I let's build another park.
You know needs more courts, but let's build more courts.
(38:15):
You know what I'm saying. I would give all the
money in the world of that. So it's kind of
in the same vein where like day, I feel like
they get so much from the people as they were
growing up, they feel the need to give back. And
he's for sure somebody does. Like I said, I saw
him come on the scene the same way everybody else did.
He showed up, would murder somebody in the octagon, get
on the mic and scream that he's going to kill everybody.
(38:38):
Everyone is dead. You're like whoa, yeah, whoa. And then
because like this, like Boogeyman, it works out perfectly. Bro.
Then you don't see anything from him, you don't hear
anything about him. There's nothing going on. He's just over
there in the corner. But then now recently we're getting
a little bit more footage of his, like you know
him as a person and his like you know, home
(38:58):
life and the way he is. And I just feel
like it's an interesting thing to see behind somebody that
is like that in the cage like it becomes a
freaking monster ro It's scary to see. You're like, what
is going on behind those eyes? What just what lights?
Which is flick that you just like turn into a
killer the moment they shut that door. Because he's excited
(39:20):
to be there.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
He's super happy, so happy like a kid that like, yeah,
this is go to bonkers.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
He just gets to release it. Bro, He's got a
tough a tough night ahead of him. Though against d DP,
I find that DDP has now become a mystery to me.
I thoroughly enjoy all the memes of everyone being like
he's winning in the most Looney Tunes ass fashion of
all times. Uh DDP third round via falling Piano ADP
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Second round KO via cartoon hammer. Someone said he's gonna
pull out like a gun, that's gonna pull out the
bang thing, and then a safe is going to fall
on him or something. All these ways. I mean, you
gotta every time you watch him fight, like you're everybody
says the same thing. All the commentators say the same thing.
It's so goofy, it's so unorthodox, none of it makes
(40:09):
any sense.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
You're like, the way he's he was talking about how
work doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
The way he fights now, the way he fights absolutely
not like you see him moving, You're like, he looks
like it's sloppy, like it's unorganized. He's just kind of
throwing himself around. But it's effected energy. It's working. Yeah,
I'm just gonna throw punches into like until someone gets
got Yeah, it ain't gonna be me. And it works
every single time. Apparently not every single time, but the champion. Yeah,
it got him there. I mean looking at I'm looking
(40:35):
at the records right now, he's twenty three and two
and then hams Out's fourteen or no. So only two
people were able to stop that ridiculous movement that he got.
It's the undefeated in the UFC. Who Yeah, I believe
both of them. Yeah, Jesus. So it's gonna be intriguing
to see. I think I think that this is gonna
be one that a lot of people are going to
(40:56):
be mixed up on, Like they don't know which one
getting a rider, die fan of one, You will have
your bias pick. But I think if you're just trying
to break this down for what it is, I don't
know who you go with.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I'm not a fan of either of these guys, but
I am not now that I've seen more. I do
kind of like.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I'm a fan of both for different reasons, for different reasons.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
It's like I respect, I guess I respect being a
champion because what like he's the people he frecking beat,
the people.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
He beat accolades. The trash talk is my favorite. I'm
not gonna lie. This is what I mean by an
opposite way. It's the same way that I just gave
hams Out all the respect for being this humble dude.
I love the way the DDP when he gets on
the mic, he will find the insecurity, the thing that
you hate most about you, and he will say that
ship to your fucking face and then back that up.
He doesn't care. Like he doesn't care. He will bring
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up like which he's so far. I saw this the
edit he's made like I think the last three opponents
he's fought cry in terms of at the press conference
he made is he cry? He made on trick and
cry like this gets so emotional? Yeah, I don't. I
don't know what it is. If it's that he just
brings up like a subject that you're not the King
of Africa. Yeah, he bro. That whole thing was so
(42:07):
uncomfortable because you're like, just say the word, bro, to
say the word you want you want to say.
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Imagine just like, I'm not all right, whoa, I'm the
only African champion and he's from South Africa, he's white,
he's not.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
He's like, he's taking you know what I'm saying. You
gotta get specific with it. I feel like he just
says the crazy stuff. Bro. When he went on Sean Strickland,
he was just like, I'm gonna beat you worse than
your dad did that Sid Strickly, that was to hit
him right in the trauma. He was like, whoa, whoa,
that was personal. That beat me pretty odd. It's so bad.
(42:47):
But I'm saying like I like him for both for
different reasons. I find him entertaining. I think that at
first I was like, man, it was just bummed fighting.
At the time, it was fighting guys that I thoroughly
enjoyed watching. I still kind of do. But at the time,
you again, based on your bias, who's your guy. So
I was like, all right, he's he's beating him. No,
Robert Whittiger beating him. No, Sean Stricklin beating him. No,
(43:08):
you're all right? What is going on with this guy?
Same thing as Elijah? He won my respect.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Every time he's fought. I've gone against him. Yeah, I
want the other guy to win.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, because you're like, Bro, there's no way he's gonna
pull this dumb shit off again. And he somehow pulls
the dumb shit off. What are you talking about? I
don't even think like DDP by falling safe. I'm telling you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
It's like, Bro, he's not even that good, but they
really he whoofs his ass. It's just like, bro, but
technically in a technical level, he's.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Not really that good. No, no, no, we're talking skill
and technique. It's it's the way. The thing is that
like it works. That's the that's the beauty of the
sport as well. It's like, hey, if it works, it works. Bro,
I'm not gonna hate. Yeah, you're saying, yeah, I'm I'm sorry.
(44:00):
I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with a justin
answer on this one. And I feel like this is
one that I think most people will agree if it's
not Hamzad in the first two DDP got it, Okay,
I feel like with the recent fights that I've been seeing,
it's been the same thing over and over again. The
gas tank on Hamzad, he expels all of it, hits, hits,
the NRI immediately guns for you, taking you down, trying
(44:22):
to take down immediately immediately. So with DDP, he hasn't
been practicing, like, Okay, what do you do when you
get smothered like he's You'll be in a bit of
a struggle there. But like, for the most part, if
you're granted it was at a different weight class, but
if you're like a Gilbert Burns or a Kamara Usman
and you're able to at least like survive those initial
two you're pretty good. You can do pretty well. You
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can then tag him up a good amount. I feel
like on the feet Hamzad does all right, but I
would say that there's definitely better strikers. Now again, it's
weird with Dricus because I'm like, I don't know if
you would say he's a good striker, but he has
shown that he can strike, so I I don't, Oh,
I don't know that the ground game. Hey, you know
he's sub dizzy. Yeah, what the are you're so saying?
(45:07):
Like you're like, I, you know, I yeah, hmm looney
Tunes ass fighter. But I'm telling you I couldn't tell you.
I couldn't tell you. I wish I could give you, like, Oh,
he's really in my opinion, like he somehow is very
good on the feet and on the ground in his
own unique style in the way that nobody else I
think can necessarily mimic or necessarily prepare for versus Like
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that's what it is. Yeah, I think that that's that's
kind of what it is in your traditional sense of being,
Like this wrestler is very good at take down and
grounded pound. You can't say that he has that like
foundation or that character style or whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
When someone's good, you can kind of predict what they're
gonna do sometimes because you could just say, oh, why
wouldn't he do this move when I made this move?
You know what I'm saying, Like, why wouldn't he reacting
this way.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
If he was good? Yeah, and if they're a little
quicker than you or something like that, that's a little
different before that was on orthodox, why would you do that? Yeah?
But then you hear the guys who have fought Dricus
and they talk about him, and they're like, yeah, I
didn't know what to do with that. I didn't know
what to do with that. I didn't. I didn't. I
didn't know what was coming. I didn't know what he
was doing with it. But it hit me. I don't
know what happened, but it hit me. And it's true,
(46:18):
Like he just comes at you from strange angles. The footwork,
like he says, throw it out the window. It's gonna
be weird. He's diving into punches. His takedowns are like
like a dolphin dive into you for some reason, traditional
like initiation, Like I don't know, man, I feel like
he's just such an interesting fighter that I feel like
you can't you got to give him the benefit of
the doubt that he can do something pretty wild on
(46:42):
Saturday to be able to get out of it. Like
I feel like he is tough enough, he's strong enough
that I feel like he can get out of at
least the few initial attempts. Will he be able to
stop like the third, fourth, or fifth.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
But i'msa with he's gonna break Whittaker's jaw.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Like that, Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like it's it's
like the watermelon. Yeah, it squeeze the watermelon, dude. It's
it's something that the strength they got over there is crazy.
I don't know what he wheezed his face until the
fucking Looking at the odds right now, he's a minus
one eighty against Drikus, who's a plus one fifty. So
people are already favoring Hamza to win. Really yeah, and
(47:19):
then he's a monster. He's he's very impressed.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I've seen I've seen that he freaking got a submission
and then what like a week later or something, got
a knockout?
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Was it like when he first started, he was very active,
he was just going in like he fought I forget
the dude's name, and I feel bad about it, but
with the performance is like he fought a guy who
didn't get to throw a punch, Like like I watched
this live. He went took him down, picked him up
off the ground, walked him across the octagon to his
(47:51):
own corner, dropped him weird naked choke. The guy didn't
get to throw a literal punch at him because he
was just trying to fight Hamza's hands the whole time,
and he couldn't break the grip. It just would not go.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
That's the thing is like these freaking Dagstani they got
the freaking grip of a freaking ape.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, they trained him different. I
don't know. Well, they're like they I've been.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
They probably can hang from a freaking tree for hours.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
You know what it is? Man? I think that it's
also like it's the same reason that like a Bryce
Mitchell is like stronger than he looks. There's something about
being like like farmer or like agriculture strong. And I
feel like, at least in Dagistan, from what they've shown
different strength, it's very like farm land dish. So I
don't know if they're involved in that kind of stuff
or if they come from like like Morob for example,
(48:38):
who does like construction for a good while of his life. Like,
I feel like when you're in labor work like that,
you just build different. Bro. There's a different type of
like strength that you got versus like your traditional I'm
going to the gym and lifting weights kind of strength.
I feel like you're on a different Yeah, you're built
on a different plane, you know what I'm saying. Certain
movements just fit you better, I guess than others, So
with him, I definitely feel like I don't know, man,
(49:00):
I like I said, I really don't know who I
give it to, who I'm going to give my pick to.
But I feel like if I had to say, it's
homs out within two or its streak is within.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Five, Okay, okay, like I got Hamza, but like I
put money on it.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, Hamsund's confident that he's gonna win. By the way,
this is a little tip that I was going to
throw in on this one where he was saying the
other day that if or when he wins, I should
say he's either I couldn't really tell if he meant
it in the sense of like he's going to do
both or it's either one or the other. He's like,
I'm winning this one eighty five and then down to
one seventy, I go to fight the winner of Islam
(49:37):
versus JDM. I think a JDM would be a better
matchup for him. Or he moves up and he takes
that two five belt whoever has just go up. I
feel like it makes more sense to move up because
he's a bigger guy. Like if you even when I.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Saw it, like I'm imagine how crazy, he would look skinnier.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
I well, I mean, he did fight at one seventy already,
but it definitely didn't go in his favor. I feel
like it would be better for him to be at
two o five. I just want to see, like what
that looks like, because it's a pretty big weight difference,
and you gotta like maintain physique immune freaking disease.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Allegedly allegedly, so you got him dropping even more weight.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Like, I don't know, bro, I'm intrigued to see what.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I don't want to like, where's he from? He's from
a different city in uh Russia.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Right whom?
Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, let me see, well, because I don't want to
take Augustani Vsa Dagustani.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
That's the thing is that I ain't doing that. I
feel like he doesn't fight out of Russia. So let's
see if I can find exactly where it is that
he's instead.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I hear that he's like connected with terrorists.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
You know, man, he's Chechan. Yeah, okay, Cheching born Russian
Swedish professional mixed martial artist. That's what it says here
according to Google. A Okay, I don't know, man. And
then in terms of in terms of that one. I'm
(51:01):
not going to touch it, Bro, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
I don't want to see him fight Islam.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
I don't know why I don't want to see Russian
Russian I get I get your stance. I get your
stance just too.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Wrestlers just sicking being Russian.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
I don't know some about like it's the whole thing
of the pound for pound situation. I feel like I
want to see the best fight the best the same
way that I want to watch Ilia versus Islam, and
I want to see I want to see kam Zadi
to move down and move up and fight whoever.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
That that Islam fight would be crazy, would be insane,
Like just the fact like I think can knock him out.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I think so too. He Yeah, I think you can
catch him like, oh snap, he could not. I just
want to see the wrestling more than anything. Yeah, because
I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Because all of a sudden, you see like oh snap
got this in his back too?
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah? Yeah, you know like man stanos Bro, He's like,
who's your favorite? Because I'm killing him now? Yeah, Who's
how is that psychopath? Bro? The man's a psychopath. Oh
here's the here's a quote. He says, basically like go
down with him, fight with him as well, which he
means Islam take the belt there, or if I go
up there's Maga mat Angliave and Alex Perreira. They're fighting now.
(52:14):
Whoever's winning, I can fight for that belt as well.
All the Russians. He it's not, it's not. I wouldn't
say he has a particular one in mind. The best
ones just happened to be Russia. But for sure, he's
definitely just trying to find the way to become one
of the greatest of all time as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
That's crazy if all three, unless he was to be champion,
all three Russian champions are from different Russian cities.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Right, No, he's not, He's not from Russia. Said no,
it's like a weird thing. That's why I said, like,
I don't really, no, No, I don't know where he
is fully from because every time I feel like they
talk about like his background, it's a lot of he's
from here, but he fights out of here, and he's
(53:01):
been here, but he lives here and he's affiliated and
this that that they're like, I don't know, so he's
from over there, you know what I'm saying he's.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
From magamed Yep calive, big Russian, big Russian, big Kistan.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
That I don't I couldn't. It looks like a Moscow.
I can't tell you. I don't know. I don't know, man.
It's the same way that people will be over here
and be like you Puerto Ricans were like, we're Dominican. Man,
I don't know that. You know, they're just going to
be like, oh, you from over there, we got it
kind of right, you just I don't know. I don't want.
I don't want to. I don't want to mess up
and be like, yeah, you're there from here one hundred percent.
It is uneducated, MMA, but I want to give at
least somewhat of an educated guest. I guess, but I
(53:41):
don't know, man. I want to see the best fight
the best. I don't care where you're from. I just
want to see like the most interesting fights. And I
feel like if it means him moving down to one
seventy because that's what he's comfortable with doing over trying
to go all the way up to two or five,
I'm with it. Do I want to see another heavy
wrestler move up to a weight class that I want
to see predominantly strikers. Not really. I feel like when
it comes to light heavyweight and anyway, I don't really
care for wrestlers. I just want to see somebody get
(54:02):
like absolutely clipped and just dropped. But like, I don't
really care to see somebody get wrestled for twenty five minutes.
So you know, I will say this when it comes
to Hamzai, that's not his vibe. His vibe is violence.
Like if he gets you on the ground, expect to
get choked to death, or expect him to beat you
to the It's gonna squeeze your head till it explodes. Yeah,
like there is there is no chill. It's full throttle.
(54:25):
You're gonna die. And I'm with that. I'm with that
skull crusher. Yeah. I don't know, man, I feel like
I don't I don't know who I got on this one, bro.
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
It's like an impossible choice. Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
I feel like, even if you were going from a
better standpoint, like it wouldn't be a bad idea to
put money on DDP as the underdog, it wouldn't be
a bad idea. I feel like I put him as
like a decision win. Yeah, that's not a bad not
a bad pick. Not a bad pick DDP by decision.
I don't see why, you.
Speaker 6 (54:56):
Know what I'm saying this, although I feel like his
name needs it comes, I'm gonna see kam Zah.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah, Kamza is not who it was. Someone called him
something that I'll tell you all air because I don't know,
I don't know if YouTube will let me say this
out loud. But someone calls him something that was crazy
with his name, and you can be like, yeah, that
makes sense. You might look you start calling him that afterwards.
But anyway, Lauren Murphy versus Aaron Pico is up. Yeah right,
we're gonna just avoid that one. This one is gonna
(55:25):
be a good one as well. This is Aaron Pico's
debut fight, another fighter coming over from bellotour, and I
feel like, right now, man, they got a bad they
got a bad name.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Belatoy y'all, y'all in UFC, y'all never was. Yeah, bro,
you try to go into UFC, you ain't gonna be
going about to get ufced.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
That's what it is, because that's respect disrespect. Not for sure,
I'm not going to say you're actually I disagree with you.
So far we've seen him go pretty pretty south like,
but you steel Pippo gotta win recently, but after that
that was losing to his debut. So is this gonna
go any Oh.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
I don't let me see, you're like fifteen through ten.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yeah, yeah, I think that they're all like there.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
If you are the best over there, you might be
fifteen through thirteen.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
I don't know. Let me see it is this one.
I don't know if this one has odds already. Let's see. Yeah,
they do, all right, So they got Lauryl Murphy at
a plus one thirty and Aaron Peko at a minus
one fifty five. So there, all right, so at least
the the better is are putting a little bit more
respect on his name right now, listen, I'm be very honest.
I have zero idea anything about Aaron Pico. I've seen
like maybe a few highlights from him, no clue loose
(56:27):
like he does that, right. I haven't seen anything for
me that's like out of the ordinary compared to other
MMA fighters, Like even if you get like a crazy
highlight knockout clip, I need to see more consistency for
me to even really put a whole lot of weight
on that. Everybody can get clipped in this game. So
it is what it is. In terms of la Ron Murphy,
I've seen him fight a good amount of time so far.
Good fighter out of the UK, very good overall, well rounded,
(56:49):
definitely heavy, I feel like terms of kickboxing, so I
wonder if this is going to be like more of
a stand up fight see like see like a like
a Leon Edwards kind of kind of yeah, I think
that that's kind of more so he would lean definitely,
I would say, like a good fighter. I wouldn't say
the most exciting. So this is gonna be one that
I feel like, Yeah, this is one of those Sure,
(57:09):
this is one of those like if you know, you
know kind of things. And I feel like even I
don't know, uneducated, like I know what I'm saying, Like,
I feel like I tried my best to kind of
tune into this one. But like I said at the
beginning of the show, I do feel like the news
with the signing of the new like streaming deal definitely
overshadowed a lot of this card. So a lot of
the information, like most of the podcasts, a lot of
(57:31):
you guys are gonna watch this week or listen to
this week in terms of MMA are going to be heavy,
Like here's a good chunk of this deal and then
here's a little bit of the pay per view, And
I feel like that's kind of what we're doing to
you as well. But I feel like that's what it
feels like. Like, deal, it is a big deal. It's
a pretty big deal. Yeah, it's a big good breaking news.
But in terms of the fights, like they're still good fights.
(57:52):
I definitely say suggest like turning like tuning in and
again one of the last pay per views of ever allegedly,
so that's also a pretty big moment to think about
it all time. Yeah, I don't know, Like I said,
they know why he left that door open, so I
don't know if he's even might do something later. The
people were saying, maybe it'll be some crazy super fight
he decides to put on, but I don't know, or
maybe the wants the White House one who knows the House.
(58:13):
Probably No, I feel like that one got to be
on CBS, and that's gonna be Cable. Yeah, you got
to CBS. I'm gonna I'm gonna give Aaron people the
benefit of the doubt. I'm not gonna hate on another
Belatoor fighter coming over. I feel like you got to
give him the respect. What the respect is due the
fact that they made it long enough to stick around
to be signed by the PFL instead of getting immediately
released when they took over the or took over Bellatour,
(58:33):
and then for the UFC to decide to sign him on.
Because this is whole thing with like people say the
UFC is just signing these Beloto guys to just kill
him just to be like, see, we're better than you.
But I don't even think they have to do that
at this point in terms of like the organization failing
in a sense, PFL not really gaining a whole lot
of traction In terms of the main MMA space, I
(58:54):
feel like MMA heads will tune into like PFL here
and there, but in terms of it being like you
know what mains stream, it's not really there.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
You know what I want to see mainstream? What that
karate shit?
Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yeah? Karate combat? Yeah that's fire. Since ARTI combat is fire,
I think you want on Amazon Prime? Oh for real,
I think it's Amazon Prime. Bring it to Paramount.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
We need at least another combat to blow up.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
I think. I think karate combat is like a happy
middle of you being able to see some like pretty
cool like martial arts, but also like getting good knockouts,
and it's not bare knuckle. Like I think that bare
knuckles for a lot of people is a bit much
like even I'm like, oh, like you see that. They're like, yo,
you're missing the first front row of all this right
(59:38):
here gone, and the refs like you're good. It's not good.
Speaker 2 (59:41):
It's someone locally that I met that was doing bare
knuckle when.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
We had we had Matt on the podcast, Matt Doherty,
he's done bare knuckle before. Yeah, I think it's just
something you do. I think you just you You find
yourself in some spots where they're like, yo, we got
this opportunity, and you take that opportunity and man, I'm
throwing hand. I'm down to throw hands with whatever, Tonio
and I ain't gonna lie to you. A lot of
the bare knuckle fighters are either they're fighters that like
(01:00:05):
didn't make big splashes in like M M A or
something like that, or boxing, or they're former professionals in
both and now they're just trying to get a check.
So like they'll get a former UFC legend to sign
on for two to three fights, and boy, they'll earn
every cent of that check trying to be in there.
But like people don't want to sign them. They don't
(01:00:27):
want to find him, they don't want to. But I
think he's in. Is he he's a bare knuckle now
he was in dirty boxing before? Or is it is
it dirty boxing now? Or is a bare knuckle that
he's on. I think it's bare knuckle. It was a
bare knuckle. I totally get I wanting to sign I
wouldn't put my name on that. You want me to
fight who with my bare hands? With my bare hands?
And then he gets his bare hands too. Now everyone
(01:00:49):
heard that Joe brogan story of his I like regenerating
and everyone's like, I'm not fighting that. Like the Cuban
Superman Man's the Winter Soldier from Cuba. Both arms are
made out of vibranium. Like I said, the experiment fucking
you know every time I every time, I like get
(01:01:09):
the highlights or I guess in a highlight. But like
I see the clips of the easy fight with with
ther Role, I like, I get why he didn't want
to engage. Like people gave him ship for that fight,
for it being so like boring of like both of
them just basically circling each other like this. But at
the same time, I'm like, yeah, no, yeah, would you
want to get within a couple of feet of that
man when he's trying to hit you?
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
No, Like, if you hit him, you get hurt. Like
those games are like inflict. Uh, it's like minus, it's.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Got poison damage. Yeah, you hit him, just like yeah,
that's kind of what I feel like it feels like
against him. So I totally get I wanted to fight him. Bro,
forget that. I'm said, anyway, I'm going with la Ron
Murphy on this one. I feel like you got to
go with number six. You'll see I put money on
that one too. You did, I would? I mean, oh
you would a bed and he's the antaduct. That wouldn't
be a bad idea. I don't know, who knows. Maybe
(01:01:59):
Aaron Peekle shows up and just dominates. But he's over
here talking mats back that he's ready to take over
a featherweight. So yeah, that's what freaking bow nicks. What's
the name? No, bro? What was that Patsy mix mix?
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Like I have be more like I got secondhand embarrassedment
because I was like, I have never seen someone talk
so much.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Ship and just have to eat it all bro, And
it just carries with him now. Yeah, every time the pan,
like the camera pans to him and it's just old
Patsy mix and it's just.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Like even he he's just like he just didn't like,
don't fucking don't show me, Bro, don't show Yeah, I
feel like I feel bad, But at the same time,
I don't because if he didn't talk, like if he
just was like, I'm here to be in the UC,
I'm excited to be him. Thank you for the opportunity.
I'm ready to show you guys my skills. Yeah, da YadA.
(01:02:49):
And he lost the way that he did, I'd be like,
damn man, maybe it was an off night, maybe whatever,
but the fact that he came in he was our
dog walk everybody in this division not better than all
you bombs.
Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I was like, all right, I thought he was gonna.
I thought he was him Bro. I was like, Bro, Okay, okay,
you're talking like that. You must have seen some ship.
Yeah it looks like you haven't seen ship. Yeah, you
haven't even it looks it looked like he didn't have
like the experience.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
That he claimed the Yet, no, bro, it was awful.
It was garbage. It was like it was like an
amateur fight. I was like, what am I watching here?
But I've seen better street beefs fight girls better than him.
Yeah she is no, No, we'll say that, No, she is.
She is one hundred and ten percent he's I mean,
I'm gonna go alright for now for now my book,
they can cut him and I wouldn't care mix. Yeah,
(01:03:34):
I'm always like anyway, moving on. Honestly, this should be
the co main event in my opinion, Jeff Neil versus
College protest. That's that should be the komin that should
be comin of that. For sure. That one I think
is that one. Everybody is expecting fireworks. I expect a knockout,
one hundred percent, a freak of flying knee. I think
(01:03:56):
we're definitely gonna get a flying different process, for sure.
I think that that dude is looking to get a
title shot. Now. I'm in true to see because like,
I feel like a lot of weight is put on
now the fighting nerds, that whole group of guys. I
was gonna ask, yeah, who's the best out of that group?
You know, I I would say, for me, he's the
closest to a title shot, So I feel like that
(01:04:18):
might be a bit a bit of it, but I
feel like he kind of I don't know who started first,
but it seemed like he was the one that got
the most traction at the beginning. From what I would say,
it's him. Carlos Protest so far is shown to be
really good. Rufie is shown to be very dynamic, like
a very exciting striker who's also coming for a title shot. Man,
(01:04:39):
I don't know. And then you got I don't know, man,
because Jean Silva is like dude that with that camp,
I feel like, Gee, Silva is that guy.
Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I hope they kind of I want to say, take over,
but kind of get these I don't hate on the
rest of it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
No, I want them to do well and I want
them to at least be contenders for a while, even
if they don't immediately win their title fights, but they
stay in that race, because in my opinion, it's the
same thing when you have like the like the Izzy camp,
where you have like Izzy and Dan Looker and Carlos
Holberg like they're all coming out of you got these
like New Zealand boys, you know what I'm saying. And
then I feel like Brazil is a little different where
they have so many different camps, but there's not really
(01:05:17):
I feel like there's like Shoot the Box. I feel
like it's the only one that I heard of consistently.
But even then, that's what I'm saying. They don't wrap
as like a team like that. They don't get teams.
The fighting nerds have merched. They put the glasses on
Joe Rogan. Like you you you root for those guys
and you know that they're all a team because they're
always together. So like that one's a little bit different.
I feel like this a couple.
Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
That's what I want to see more of in the UFC.
Little factions.
Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
I feel like that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I remember, like the old WE games, you can create
your little factions.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
It's tricky when you have these like super gyms, or
you have like thirty fighters in the UC roster all fighting,
and then most of them are all in one weight division.
So for example, like the lightweights or whatever, one five
like those guys, like there's probably like five guys that
all train at the same gym that they don't want
to hang out because they all fight each other there
at some point it's weird.
Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
They bring bring bring one for every weight class. Yeah,
bring your starting five.
Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
This is sounding like the GFL right now. Yeah, this
is the GFL. Make your little faction call it something cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I want to see like d X yeah, the generation XIT.
Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Because also, like if from a branding standpoint, like yo,
like these dudes are probably gonna start selling merch, if
not already selling merch, get your gym bred up.
Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
And if your team's winning, like right there, like you're
you're already marketed way.
Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Better than way better. Yeah, your own brand, But you
could be okay on the fighting nerds, and they would
off the kind of word, off the branding, the look,
the vibe of you just being like in that photo
on the left hand side over there with them, They're
gonna like you better than you being off to the side.
But you guys do actually train together. I feel like
you have to work way harder to be over here,
and you do have to be over here, you know
(01:06:52):
what I'm saying, The group field versus the individual feel
unless you're that good that you are carrying yourself, which
I feel like in this case, there's two. Like you
asked me the question, there's too many good ones in
their own individual ways for me to be like, yeah,
that's what you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
But if like three of them are doing good, that
fourth might get more shy or look or more opportunities
because he's because because he's part of that team.
Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
I agree. I agree, especially if it's in something that
is like you're all in different weight classes too, I
feel like that also needs.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
To we are freaking undefeated, what about this one?
Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
He must be good to be fair that the like,
let's let's let's be honest here you have the Kobeb
stamp of approval for the most part as being something
very similar if you have Nimarka metof as your last name,
they're like, oh yeah, this man in like I don't know.
So I feel like there is a part of that
where like if you come from me to that camp,
if you're of Dakastani descent for whatever reason, there is
(01:07:45):
a little bit more of a lure put on you
where you're like, Wow, who's this guy? You know, Let's
get this guy in some bigger fights off riped America.
Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
It's really just like broke, just John Jones and someone else.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Is make a super camp, make a create a super
There are super there's a lot of super teams that
are in the US. But the thing is that they're
not all American that fight through there. Like for example,
like you have I think Islam and kuld Be when
he was fighting, they they went through American Top Team
like they were a part of that. That's why like
DC and them trained like so they wear that King
(01:08:17):
Velaska's I believe it's also a part of that camp.
So you do. Yeah, so you have yeah, you have
big camps within the US, and like that's what I'm
saying that there are I guess you can call them factions,
but they don't they don't re him.
Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Like this, Like they don't go back there was like yeah, no,
I'm not fighting dude, He's part of camp.
Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Yeah, but that's what you also you also see like
them cornering one another. So you'll see them all, like
I don't know, help each other out in camp. You'll
see them when they're doing like there you've see embedded.
You'll see other fighters and stuff like that popping up
in the corners and stuff like that. Vulcan who Volcan
with Australia and I think he I don't know he.
I think he's a part of I don't know seeing them.
(01:09:00):
I don't know if he has any teammates that we
would know. No, no, no, they hang out because that's
New Zealand, so they're like nearby countries, but like they're
not No, they're not on the same camp. That's the
thing is that, like is he's like with Dan Hooker?
Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
What if Volks showed up for I remember one of
these embedded he showed up for.
Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Someone's Is he with JDM? Jdm's Australian might be him.
I don't know. We're weird stuff, we're stuff and that
one man, I don't know who I got bro Jeff Neil.
Jeff Neil's real good. Jeff Neil is good, Like he's
one of the guys, like he is on the older
side and right jof Jeoff Neil. He's on the older side.
(01:09:38):
And you definitely I feel like I don't want to
put him on that status of like gatekeeper. I don't
know if I see a title shot with him, but
I definitely see like him building momentum and getting a
couple of wins in a row and stuff. So I
don't know if I Carlos Protest is on this wave
right now though I think everybody's hyping him up so that.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Ship man, I feel like a team like that, all
of them winning.
Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
He just lost, though he did just lose, But it's like,
what's the same synergy? No, the synapsis symbiosish iron sharp
as iron or yeah, kind of thing like I think,
so I agree with you the all top fighters in
(01:10:24):
some way. Yeah, I think that I see him, I
see him performing well, but I just feel like I
gotta I don't know something about the confidence that I've
seen with Jeff Neil in terms of like handling these
opportunities where they're like, we're gonna give you the young
hungry guy and him being able to shut that down
real quick. And he's also good overall. Like that's another
thing with so the way that Protest lost his last
fight was against Ian Gary, and a lot of that
(01:10:46):
had to do with the grappling and the wrestling. It's
very nice, So he's pretty gay put some respect on
saying like that. I wouldn't like.
Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Just just adapt and and come back better I think
college process still can.
Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
I think he can too. All right, So we'll be
uposing SATs on this one, so we'll see what happens.
I might throw, I might throw Jeff Neil on the parlay.
We'll see. I don't know. I think he has good odds.
I don't know. I feel like I feel like with him,
he's got one one punch knockout power. We've seen him
be able to take a lot of damage and still
kind of whether the storm are come out on top.
(01:11:19):
So I feel like, I don't know. I feel like,
even though you have the younger and hungry guy, you
still got to put respect on his name. He's not
out of here yet. Jeff Neil plus two twenty five.
Carlos prot is at a minus two seventy five. So
it's it's a decent money line right there. You know
what I'm saying, decent money for the for the sake
of the money line, I mean for the parlay five
(01:11:40):
on Jeff five case. Then moving on, we got Jared
Kennedyer versus Michael Vina Paige. Jared Kennedyer opens up at
a plus one sixty five and Michael Page at a
minus one. Ny five. This is just going to be
another one where I feel like, how does he need
(01:12:00):
to change? I feel like the way I feel like
they just gave Aaron people the comin event, I feel
like that's the only reason he's up there. But I
feel like I want to change the way that this
is cut up because I'm like, what are you talking about?
Jerry Cannany is another one that he's on the older
side of things. He's been in three weight divisions. I'm
gonna give you the same spiel, knockouts an all three
weight divisions, super durable. He's on the comeback tour. As
(01:12:22):
he said that he's you know, he's just whoop as
cut and wait and cut and wait. Yeah. Well now
he's been comfy at one eighty five. I feel like,
now he's reached a weight where he's like, all right,
this is this is where my body's supposed to feel
healthy here. Yeah, for sure, and it shows. Well, that's
that's what I was gonna say. Being older, I think
he's like over forty. Now I want to say he's
(01:12:43):
over forty he's able to still compete with the best
of the best. Not we're not talking to young, hungry guys. No, no, no,
he's better than that. He's in the top, he's fighting
top five, still holding his own. He's able to I
feel like, prove a lot of people wrong when it
comes the stats, when people start going over over the
age of such as such, you shouldn't be doing this
one and the third. But he's able to still do
(01:13:05):
his thing. So when it comes to this one, I
feel like, same thing. The odds are stacked against him.
I feel like, based off of age, I feel like
a lot of people are kind of expecting him to
be the slower fighter gets a Michael Venam Page who's
a lot more dynamic. That dude is dartning and out,
just dancing on you. So I get it. I get it.
I think off of the speed advantage, I'm gonna go
with probably Michael Venam Page, but I feel like you
(01:13:27):
shouldn't count out Jared Kennedy here. I think it's gonna
be an exciting one. I think it's gonna be a
car crash. I feel like, oh man, yeah, I think
I think Jared Cannan here knows that the way do
you fight Michael Vanam Page you have to get in
his face. There is no do not let him get
that distance. You not let him get that karate once
he starts doing that side of side bounce use kicks.
(01:13:47):
It's so it's insane. I feel like you would just
want to run at him the whole time, Like you
cannot let him get that distance. He will throw some
weird sidekick to your face. Watched the elbows for sure,
he's up the middle. You gotta be a little careful
on that one. I'm gonna go with Jared Cannadier. I
think I might build an under underdog parlay off of me.
(01:14:08):
So far, I've picked Lauren Murphy, I picked Jeff Neil,
and I've picked Jared Canadier. All those three are underdogs.
Payout I'm saying is I actually let me, let me
not put too much too much on it. But I
will say the last two fights, the last two cards
that went out, I only I got most of the
(01:14:29):
fights right. I think I got three fights wrong on
both of them. So like, pretty good, pretty good. Don't
take my advice. I'm not starting a betting page or
anything like that. You we're not. You will not catch
me being like join the patreon so you get my betting. No, No,
I'm not doing all that that's that's that's not the
kind of guy I am. You should take this un
educated advice. I do not make make you. This is
(01:14:49):
non financial advice, not financial advisors. Yeah, the opposite way
or whatever we do. I'm saying is Melbourne has picked
against us a couple of times, and I'm pretty sure
he's made a good bag. So I don't know, man,
maybe betting against us the way to go, all right,
and then to open up the car. We got Tim
Elliott versus Kyasakora. Another insane difference when it comes to
(01:15:13):
the money lines. Here we got Tim Elliott at a
plus two fifty and Kayasakora at a minus three twenty.
It's the night of favorites right now. And it's something
about it makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
It's like, we we saw this. That's the Japanese guy
that came over.
Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
He came over. He fought u Pantosia. Pantosia handles damn
near the gold in that weight class. Yeah, not damn near.
I'd say he is for sure at this point he is.
Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
So it's like, I don't know, I don't know what
to expect. Still left off that one fight. Let's well,
I guess we'll see how good he really is.
Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Yeah, I think that he is a good fighter. I
think that there is something to do with like coming
over to the u S. He's like the same thing
I'm gonna say about Aaron Pico and all the other
guys coming over from Bellatore something about coming over to
the UFC. Bro, I think that it's a different it's
a different setup. Like you walk in, the level of
care and attention to detail that the entire staff has,
(01:16:07):
the production team, the backroom stuff that they do. This
is the level of of of just professionalism that I
feel like comes with it that it throws a lot
of people off. I will say, there is a part
of it that I do think comes with Also, then
you walk out and they're like, Bro, this is the UFC.
There are all these people like I'm in the UFC.
I think, Yeah, I think it gets to you to
(01:16:29):
a little bit. So, like, I don't know, based off
of that performance, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put
too much on it because I feel like a lot
of the same thing. I'm gonna give everybody the benefit
of the doubt. If they come in here and if
they show me some patchy mixed bullshit. No, I don't.
I don't like you anymore. You you lost all respect
for me. But if you come in and you're bro,
you're trying, but the guy you're fighting is just that
much better than you. It is what it is. Like.
(01:16:51):
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that
you can get better, you can learn from your mistakes,
and let's see how you do against the next guy.
But you know, you really only get the one of
two chances. And I think most of the UFC like
fan base is gonna be like, I'm set off of you.
I'm gonna pass. I'm gonna just kind of keep watching
the other guys or bet against you or root against you.
And then I think the UC money making like marketing
(01:17:11):
machine decides to like back up a little bit off
of you, and you don't. You don't get the COO
opportunities anymore. You go from the main card to the
early prelims and it's just a rap. So we'll see
what happens with these guys that come over from these
other organizations. Timilaliot, though I feel like it's insane that
disrespect they got on this guy. I do feel like
though this is one of those fights where they're giving
Kai an easier fight for him to kind of get
(01:17:33):
his footing back, because at the same time, like they
do need some bigger stars from that side of the
world to like come over. Like I feel like they
do need we need you to succeed. I mean, like,
for example, like you know how hype we get over
Waldough like and that's just us getting the one. Like
imagine like how many fighters from like Asia that there
are that can come over to the US that then
we can get people from South Korea, China, Japan like that,
(01:17:57):
They're just gonna be like way more excited to watch
the spoils much bigger international fan basically they can get
on board. So I think that that's kind of one
of these moves where they're like, let's get Kai back
up there. You know what I'm saying. He did not
have the best going around the first time.
Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
I thought it was crazy to have him start in
the UFC against Pantosi.
Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
I think that that was wild to get a title shot.
That was a topic of conversation we went over on
and off air like several times because we were both
just like, bro, how what did you do? That was
so great that I.
Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Think dominating a whole half of the world. I mean,
that's all while the UFC is going on over here,
he's over there.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
That's a part of it though, because like I feel
like with the Bell Tour, guys like you have guys
that are multi multi time champions, like big winners, they've
won other things and like for example, let's say they
go to the PFL. They did win a million dollar
tournament and all this other stuff. You have accolades, but
like does anybody give it, Like nobody cares. Bro Like
nobody's got to the point where in the UFC it
(01:18:54):
ain't for me, like you know what I'm saying, Like
it just it is what it is, Like it's unfortunate.
But at the same time, like we have to recognize
that this is a situation where as much as we
want to have like these other organizations, so you have
a variety to watch, so like you don't have UFC,
I guess you don't like the dirty business practices is
what you want to call them, where it's like the
fighters and stuff aren't getting paid with the getting they
(01:19:16):
should be getting paid, but they're our NBA, our NFL,
our MLB. It is is what it is. This is
the pros. Whatever y'all been fighting and ain't the pro
It ain't the pros. Bro, people people go from euro
over here to play, like that's just what it is.
Like if people they like we are the premier everyone
will tune in across the world to watch us sports,
(01:19:39):
Like this isn't even us being you know what I'm saying,
this is this is the facts, Like I don't the
numbers are there, the stats are there, like run shit. Yeah.
I feel like people just get they just want to
be here. So when it comes to the UFC, we
just have to come to accept that, like, bro, this
is the premier league. Now with that being said, there
are other forms of martial arts that I feel like
will be big. So for example, like one Championship I
(01:20:02):
think is as big as it is because they don't
just do martial arts, Like here's straight jiu jitsu matches,
here's straight kickboxing, here's muay Thai. See the other forms
and then you, like you brought up earlier, you want
to now see more karate combat because you're like, bro,
like this is this is pretty sick and it is
give us different rule sets, different change ups. It's getting bigger,
Bro Street, you know what I'm saying. Like that, that's
(01:20:23):
that's like in someone's backyard, Like it can grow, but
it just has to be a little bit different. Don't
try to copy the UFC because you can't be Bro.
It's too late. I don't think you need a whole
different formula for your own ship. Yeah, them bros are
gonna get hit with monopoly charges before it happens. Yeah,
you might hell the sell that ship. Yeah, you have
to do somethhit like that, because that's why the every
(01:20:44):
now that we get so excited when we're on like
Twitter and we see like a Russian phone booth boxing match,
But when they're fighting a top of like moving U
ship shopping crates or whatever, and there'shipping containers, it's like,
what is what is going on? But they lock you in, Bro?
But then something about slap fighting doesn't get it. It
doesn't get me locked in. No, it does not. I
don't care for it.
Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
I don't feel like, like most cases you get knocked out.
Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
I'm a crazy person when it comes to watching random
strangers get knocked out on the Internet. I'm like, this
is crazy. Send to all of my group chats. But
when it comes to like the slap fighting, I'm like skip.
Like I think it's because you know what's going to happen,
like you, and it's too much. If you know what's
going to happen. If it's a clip, they're not going
to show you the one that didn't hit. No. If
(01:21:29):
I'm watching CCTV footage of outside of a gas station,
I'm like, what's gonna happen here, Let's see what happens.
And I see someone gets slept, I'm like, that's crazy. Send.
But when I'm watching slap fighting and I can see
the other guys bracing for dear life because he knows
the giant Samoan man is about to put him six
feet under. Yah, I No, I don't really care that much.
(01:21:50):
I don't really care. Like they win belts, they're professional
athletes and everything like that, and I'm, you know, all
happy for them. Get your bread to whatever you gets.
How that concussion feels like, I think you wake up
with the worst headache, worse than any of these because like,
you know, how like they say that when you get
knocked out, you get your belt wrong, that looks like
you got the you got your belt full rang. That
(01:22:12):
is like the way he because if you watch somewhere
like they get knocked out and then they hit the
table and then drop, You're like, oh what what you
get Kaot? You got to come back get Kot again? Yeah,
now I trying to slap you. I hope that, like
I haven't tuned in to watch, but I hope that
if they get knocked out, that's it. It's not like
(01:22:33):
I think that any any entity you affiliate with the
UFC is very good at Like if you are put
in a bad spot, we're done. It's over. No more.
Versus like boxing and like you know you can get
up count of ten. It's like first to get knocked out. Yeah,
I think it's first to get knocked out or get
out or like the best slaps out of three. Just
get dragged out. Bro, you already the medical staff on
(01:22:57):
the hand must be crazy. You got, I mean, let's
get you see them drop the go limp like or
they either go limp or they go stiff either what
they sad? But it just like feet crossover Like he's
just like oh no, oh no, it's so bad. I
don't know what it is. Man. I just can't get
(01:23:18):
into it, Like I said, like people think I watched
these fights because I'm like I just want to see
somebody get knocked out, and I do, but like there's
a certain extent where like I feel bad, Like so
all right now that we're over with doing that t
to talk about people get knocked out real bad just
kind of like segway into this, bro. Like for example,
this past fight night with the homeboy that got a
batista bombed into the third dimension and then got those
(01:23:39):
two follow up shots. I felt bad for him, bro,
because when I saw him hit the ground and it
was head and neck first, immediately you saw the body
do this and lock up, and then the guy was
just like I bet he comes two more just for
good measure, because the ref isn't near me. He's on
his way. The ref was already like full spread motion
when the guy was already like here they come, like
(01:24:00):
you know what I'm saying, Like it was only it
was a matter of the ref not getting to him
fast enough. But that why you should have been stopped
the moment that had hit the ground, Like it was
so bad. It's just like I said it a couple
of times and I posted it on my page, but
like it's still because it was crazy, but like you
still feel bad, you know yet, but you.
Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Knock someone out, I think everybody needs a little one
to to come, like the confirmed kill, like when you kill,
when you shoot somebody.
Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Jorge Mans what all one said, It's absolutely necessary. It's
absolutely absolutely necessary.
Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
I've seen times when you thought, like people thought they
knocked him out and you just get straight.
Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Back Jalen Turner versus not the one Kano you see
three hundred he thought he got to walk off ko
and then not the more kind of come back and
beats the ship out of him, like yeah, it happens, Like, bro,
you gotta make sure that moment. It's a weird. It's
a weird line to like to be there because you're
like I'm going to cross this line and kill this man,
or the ref is getting to me in time. It's
one of the other, because I'm gonna be honest with you.
(01:24:52):
Just a couple of times where like it's like follow
up shots, but you can the guy is still like
kind of like woozy, He's still kind of there. He's
just taken on him. One of them versus the one
where like you could tell that the first hit on
the feet, that body went stiff or limp, and the
other two you're like, that's an unconscious body, like it
(01:25:13):
wasn't like they were like a little out of it. No, no, no,
you just h what do you do? Just wait, you
just look at the refles. I don't know. No, no,
I think you I think I think the rules stay
the same. I think until the ref pulls you off,
you do what you gotta do. I think the refic
definitely needs to get a little bit better. But at
the same time, like, I mean, what are you gonna do,
Like you're in a moment that it's split second decision.
People are moving so quick, and you knocked him out
(01:25:35):
on the feet and before you before he hits the ground,
you're already wound up for that follow up, so like
you know, can't get up. Yeah, it is what it is, bro,
It is what it is. Like, I don't know, I
don't know if you could.
Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
It's like you kind of knock him out, he's pretty
much knocked out, and then that one last like fucking
clip on the grounds.
Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Yeah, dude, there's a lot of them where you're just
like you executed him. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying like there's
a couple where like they don't clip them and they'll
drop to their knees and they're like trying to get
back up, and as they're trying to get back up,
it just like as I said, like they just get
clipped and he's like, oh man, it's bad. But you know,
you you I don't know. There's a couple of knockouts too.
(01:26:15):
You're like it's a You're like impressive, but that was
hard to watch, Like as a human you feel a
level of empathy. We're like that was a little difficult
to watch.
Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
At least he didn't feel the last two Hopefully.
Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Yeah, hopefully. I mean like I said this earlier and
I was like, when he's fifty six, it can barely
put together a sentence. He will fill them, but like
right now and I he's chill him, bros. Let's see
what else. Jocelyn Edwards also vicious ko U rare you
see women get a knockout like this. I don't know
if you watch it, but it was a three piece
combo to the fucking face and she hit that shorty
(01:26:49):
like a ton of bricks and dropped her. And I'm
talking three unanswered hooks clean to the jaw, dropped her stiff.
Shout out to Joscelyn Edwards. I love to see it,
love to see it. I mean, you see knockouts and
t ko's in the women's division, but like it's where
you see one where you're like, get that on the
highlight reel. That's that's being posted everywhere. Yeah, she man
(01:27:11):
with the head kick, you know what I'm saying, Like
stuff like that, you see those every now and then,
you always see the man. Why am I blank? Valentina Shipchenko, Jessica,
I that's a clip for the ages. Valentino Shipchenko hits
the shorty with a head kick that sounds like a
baseball bat, like cleaning home run, and this girl does
not get up for several minutes, several minutes. It's pretty bad, Amanz.
(01:27:37):
Chris Cyborg thousand vicious knockout too. She she cleaned her
up good. But all those are so few and far between.
I feel like, so when you get a good one,
you're like, this is this is this is real good.
Joscelyn Edward's on her way to the top. I feel
like I think that she's got some crisp striking right now.
So that's the name to look out for, man, I'm
just telling you to look out for these names. Other
than that. Another name to look out for, also off
(01:27:57):
of this past fight night card is Anthony Fluffy her Nandez.
I don't know if you saw him. He got his
lunch money back from Roman Dolit. That was a bully
beat down. I don't know what Roman did to him,
but he beat the ship out that man. Bro. The
way he finished, when he finished the fight by it
wasn't even like a regular choke. He just kind of
looked like your older brother just like put you in
(01:28:19):
a headlock him across the walk to God and then
he was just like, all right, I'm good, bro, I'm
done with this. I'm done with this, like I'm fine.
I don't think he I think he tapped just being
done Like I think he's like, I'm done, Bro, I'm
wrapped up. You beat the ship, you got it. It's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
A bout a freaking water melon in my head, Like freaking.
Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Yeah, Roman is. Roman is gonna be sore for the
next couple of days. Bro. He definitely took a He
took a pretty bad ass open yeah, man, that it was.
It was a good good couple of fights this past
couple of weeks. I ain't gonna lie to you. I
feel like we had a little bit of a lull obviously, Guys,
we mostly do these cards when it's a pay per
view or in this case going forward uh premium live event.
It's gonna be weird. Calling him p l E s
(01:28:57):
PLS sounds like a drug. I was like a drug.
It sounds like a hey, we're flipping him. I'm addicted.
Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
I'm addicted to the pluh be hooked.
Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
Big fight announcement just because he's my boy, Charles olivera
versus physive or physiev that's going down in October. Do
you think it's too early for Charles to take a
fight against somebody who hits his hardest physive, like four
months since he knocked out by Ilia.
Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
In a way, I feel like he needs after that loss,
needs to somewhat remain relevant.
Speaker 6 (01:29:30):
Four months though, after getting Lean knocked out, I think
he should have liked waited for.
Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
This December, right, hold him off until December. But like.
Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
I get like, we don't want you, man, I don't
want to see him fall off, like disappear.
Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
For Charles loss from what I gathered in. I don't
speak Portuguese, but when I gathered he did say something
along the lines of he ain't no bitch, I'm not
gonna lie to you. That's that's kind of what it is.
He said, Oh yeah, and he pretty much just like,
I don't care what happened. We move on to the
next one and I will get my belt back. So
(01:30:08):
I don't know, ma, that's why they do it, Bro,
that we were talking about earlier. These guys like we
go to work and we clock in and to go
get our bread, to go feed our families and do
what we gotta do. These dudes go fight in a cage.
So like when they decide that they want to fight.
Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
All shit, I'm gonna go fight for my life. Well,
you say to pay my bills, you say.
Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Yourself all the time. They gotta be a little tap
to be in the UC. This is where the little
tap comes in where they're like, I just got knocked
out four months ago, but I'm back in electrician. Bro. Yeah,
you really could have. You really could have. You could
have could the h fact certification. I could have gotten
hold it down and that bills paid. Yeah, yeah, you
chose to fight in your underwear in front of thousands
(01:30:47):
of people at the beginning. You don't get paid, ship nothing.
He's just enough, O got enough for the for this month.
That's why I love the story. I love the stories
of like when they talk about like their families that
are just like holding it down for them, because like
you got to have a lot of love for somebody
to be like, oh, yeah, you only make twenty thousand
dollars a year and after you pay your bills, it's realistically,
you're not making anybody for four years. Gotch you? Yeah,
I love you enough to stay with you. That's crazy work, bro,
(01:31:11):
that's crazy. That's how like when Destin Porie was retiring
and he was talking about his wife just holding it
down the whole time, was like, bro, shout out to her, bro,
because like that's a commitment. Granted, I know a lot
of these guys will have the best. You got to
be the best. You got to put everything, Bro, I'm
not seeing my kids. No. No. And then it's it's
a different sport than other sports where like at least
they have like school pipelines so you can kind of
(01:31:31):
go through you're not paying a whole lot or even
get to the college level where they pay you to
be there, not like that, but like in termse of
like scholarships. But for MMA, it's you. It's fully you.
Even if you get if you get into a team
and you're at like you pay to be on the team, Like,
it's not you now get paid to be there. That
doesn't how that works. Like these coaches, these these organizations
(01:31:53):
that are they're part of, they get a cut of them,
and also the management and this and the third So
it's like that's all I can label itself. It is
they're all in three sixty deals. Yeah, everyone is in
a three sixty deal somehow three sixty deal. That's why
when I we were talking to open up the show
where I'm talking about the UFC is now making those
seven point seven billion over the seven years and the
(01:32:14):
U see, the fighters ain't seeing none of that. The
UC ain't sharing none a dollar of that.
Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
One the fighters might not care, but I know a
lot of the managers and coaches are definitely.
Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
I think going forward, the negotiations are going to be
a little bit more aggressive because now they know what's
in their pockets. But I think for the most part,
I think they're still going to be like, if you
don't shut the fuck up and take this little check
to give you, you will go to the PFL.
Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Best I have, Like, like, man, I know I see
all the numbers what y'all making and my company, Yeah,
I know what y'all making every fucking year.
Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Yeah, I better stop paying up. Nope, nope, nope, are
shut the fuck up? That's what That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Like, it's the same thing unless
everybody decides that they're gonna get together and they're gonna
be like, all right, we're notf I and unless we
get paid more or whatever it's going to be, you
just ain't gonna see it happen. Not a soul is
going to sign up for that. Like it's just not
(01:33:07):
anybody in the UC's gonna get paid more minus like
maybe four names they go on striking. Even then, when
we're talking, when we're talking champions, I would argue, like DDP,
even if he gets this win, I would still say,
is not a big enough start to argue that much
with the UFC currently, Morob is not that big of
a start to argue with the UC. JDM is not
that big of a start to argue with the UC.
(01:33:28):
Maga mat on Calia definitely ain't that big of a
start to argue with the US people. Even Tom aspinall
not big enough to argue with the UFC. Pantosia, I
just listened to almost all the male champions, because the
women are already in their own little thing where they're
already struggling to begin with. They're on co mains. They
don't even get main events. Now imagine you're over here
and you're used to this, you getting ship, yo, bro, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
These UFC champions are really none of them are superstars,
except maybe Islaud because the memes.
Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Even in the technically he's not he's not a champion anymore.
Oh yeah, he had to give he had to give
up the bell. Eliot Taporia, I would argue, is like
the biggest name worldwide, but so Alex Pere maybe, but
he's not a champion anymore. We're just talking. We're talking champions.
Alexander Pantojia, Rob Dewalash Billy, Alexander Volkonowski, uh Alioporia. Technically still,
(01:34:16):
I guess at lightweight, I don't know what's.
Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Going on there because of the John Jones stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Even then, people still don't know who he is.
Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
People still don't even know who he is.
Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
J D M D d P, Malcolm Nakayev, Tomas bro
these champions are they're not big names. And then for
the women, you have Jangway Lee, Valentina Schipchenko and Kayla Harrison.
Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Jangway Lee, unless I would say maybe maybe her, maybe her,
what's the.
Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
East she's not on the China card. I don't think
which is crazy? Give her not? She deserves pay per view.
That's a that's a pay per view. Yeah, I feel
like I'm intrigued to see what they do with the money. Bro.
This there's so much money now. I feel like to
go around, but it's gonna stay up top. I feel
like it's not going to get dispersed anybody. McMahon fucking yeah. Yeah.
I'm intrigued to see if they if they up production
(01:35:04):
value or something like that, Maybe they go a little
bit more visually in something like they get walkouts and whatnot,
the fears like more consistent. Maybe, I don't know. It
seemed like it was really expensive and I feel like
those are you saved those for every couple of years.
I feel like you make that a special thing every
now and then. But if you do it all the time,
it's not a school. And if it's always for the
same thing, it's like you have to come up with
(01:35:26):
a new idea every single year for the same thing.
It's a little tricky. But save it for some cool fights,
like I don't know, maybe it's a ways away. But
saving for the like UC four hundred or something like that,
I feelt that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
You shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
It wasn't worth it, all right, okay, all right with that,
ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in for another
episode of un Educated MMA. I'm your host with the
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three of his friends have to stop a giant intergalactic
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Peace.
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