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📖 TODAY’S TOPIC: JESUS APPEARS AFTER THE RESURRECTION

Acts 1:3 - After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive.

He appeared to them over a period of forty days and spoke about the Kingdom of God.


Jesus appears to Mary Magdalene - Mark 16:9-11  
Jesus appears to two believers on the road - Mark 16:12-13  
The Great Commission - Mark 16:15-16 (also Matthew 28:16-20)  
Jesus Ascends to Heaven - Mark 16:19-20 (also Luke 24:50-53)  

🌍 WHAT DID THE APOSTLES DO?

Simon Peter:
Preached in Egypt and Persia, joined Thaddaeus. Went to Rome around A.D. 42. Crucified in A.D. 67 upside down on Vatican Hill in Rome.

James:
Traveled to Spain, then returned to Jerusalem. Beheaded around A.D. 44 by King Herod Agrippa.

John:
Banished to the island of Patmos. Wrote the Book of Revelation.

Thomas:
Preached as far as Kerala, South India. Martyred by spear. His remains were brought to Edessa.

Philip:
Preached in Greece and Syria with his sister Mariamne and Bartholomew.

Andrew:
Preached around the Black Sea and in Greece/Turkey. Crucified in Patras (no exact date found).

Stephen:
Martyred by stoning at the hands of Saul (who later became the Apostle Paul).


❓ SO WHAT ABOUT US—OVER 2000 YEARS LATER?
THE GREAT COMMISSION TELLS US!
Go. Preach. Baptize. Make disciples. Stay faithful.


💪 FINAL THOUGHTS:
In today’s world, it’s tough to live for Jesus without ridicule.  
Put on the FULL armor of God every day.  
If you miss even one piece, it creates a weak spot in your protection.  
Stay in the Word. Every single day.


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Until next time—  
Keep spreading the love of Jesus… without judgment.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to the Unreligious Podcast, where we spread the love
of Jesus without judgment or bylaws, focusing solely on Jesus
and the Bible.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm Chris and I'm Drew Ski and I just want
to say, welcome back, Welcome back, Welcome back.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Carter.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Huh, it's it's the it's the ghost from co hosts
past a.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Dude, I have had a rough goal, man, it's been
it's been bad.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah, which I'm going to give you know.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Chris is going to have ample time to catch us
up on his adventures. But just real quick, if you
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Speaker 3 (01:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:30):
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(02:11):
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Speaker 3 (02:12):
Which all let me.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Which show you guys on YouTube this. But we've got
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Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, yeah, I haven't. I haven't seen it since you
redid it. No, yeah, I saw the Campbell hat. That's
different for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
So we've got a special design. We're on the front
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I was one of the first five hundred.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
And it's got me. Chris.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Don't put our pictures on stuff very often, but it's
got a picture of us that says we were the first,
and we actually we go all the way up to
like four XLT or five XL regular. We've got all
kinds of stuff, but I mean there's hats, we got ackers,
We've got some T shirts and hoodies. We've got some

(03:05):
all overprint stuff, some pretty cool stuff. So guys check
that out. And again we're just we're only running that
I was one of the first five hundred merch until
June first, or until we reach five hundred. Well, we're
very close.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Once we reach five hundred, we can't sell that I
was the first five hundred anymore.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh, here's the one I was telling you about too.
So we've got your classic unreligious logo, very clean and sleek.
And then on the background there's actually qr co that
says scan here if you're not perfect, and it takes
people to the podcast. So if you wear this T
shirt in church and someone in the few behind you
is like, oh, I'm not perfect?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Click, So yeah, help us out, y'all.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Though, some real cool stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
But that's all of the blurts that we got to
get through. So Chris, how was your month?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Uh? Yeah, it was, Uh it was rough Man. Easter
weekend was great. Uh, my wife and I went to
Good Friday Service at four o'clock with my mom and
my sister, and then we volunteered to go to Easter

(04:23):
service on Saturday because they want, yeah, they wanted to
have enough room on Sunday for the people that don't come.
But once or twice a.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Year, dude, was was your was your Saturday at like service?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Just like.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Incredible because like I was talking to somebody about it,
and I was like, I talked to my buddy who
sits behind me regularly at church.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I invited him and he came and joined and all that,
and I was texting him. I said, dude, I don't
think you guys are gonna be able to have church tomorrow.
And he's like what I was like, I'm pretty sure
we blew the roof off. But like, dude, it's it's
like if you're listening to this and the only time
you go is like Easter or Christmas, I'm not knocking

(05:10):
it to each their own. I didn't go for ten years,
but there's just something about like a Saturday night, like
everybody wants to be there, you know, And it was
like just right off the rit Dude, it was like
you felt like the can was going to explode or something.
But like I was, I was going to ask you
about that because it's like, dude, it's like everybody there

(05:33):
wanted to be there, and nobody was there aut of
obligation or nothing. It just felt like special, Like did
you get that, dude?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
It was absolutely incredible. On Saturday, they had two services
at three o'clock and a five o'clock, and we went.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Saturday yeah wow, okay at.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Three o'clock and a five o'clock, and then they had
three services on Sunday. They were expecting up to I
think something like three thousand people, but man, we walked in.
We got there like twenty five minutes early on Saturday
because I was like, you know, it's we need to
get there. I don't want to have to miss the service.
We pull in and the parking lot has got maybe

(06:15):
like twenty five thirty cars in it, and twenty minutes
still service. I'm like, oh, okay, well we all go
in and we go up.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
We sit up about four rows back from the stage,
and the worship crew came out and they started jamming
and during the first song. I looked around, dude, and
there wasn't an empty seat left in the auditorium and
you could, you know, Drew, you know what I'm talking about,
when you can just feel that holy spirit, Like the

(06:44):
energy in that room was off the chart. Like it, dude,
it was amazing. I've never been to a Saturday.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
So I'm getting goosebumps. Uh yeah, no, I hadn't either.
And like you said, dude, it was the same thing
for us. We got there. I got so we got there.
I think hers was at five and we got there
at like four because you know, we got to get
the kids checked in and all that. Anyways, but so
our church had one of those like selfie kiosks things

(07:12):
where you like it had the thing to take a
picture and you hit the button and then you stand
back and pose or whatever. But so we ran upstairs,
did the Easter picture. Then I took you know, my
five year old back down there or whatever. And then
but I was selling her. I was like, I don't know,
like because like our church, people will travel a good

(07:33):
distance to come, you know, visit and stuff because they
watch a line or whatever, and so I sell on her,
like I mean, I know it's Saturday, but you never know.
But I thought the same thing. Dude, we're like fifteen
minutes till or something. I kind of looked around. I
was like, well, you know, it's about half full, you know,
Like I'm like, well, it's Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Whatever. Didn't think anything of it. And then.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
You know, the service started, and then pastor got up
and he was like, man, i'd say, there ain't an
empty seat in the house, like kind of joking around,
and I was like, I looked around, like what happened.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Right, Yeah, that's what I'm telling That's the same thing
that happened to me. So yeah it was. And then
the sermon. Our pastor's name is Jeff as Well, and dude,
I gotta tell you, the only thing that could have
made the sermon any better would have been if he'd
have just ended it holding the mic out and just

(08:28):
dropping it and walking off stage. Because it was a
drip mic drop moment that that. The sermon was just unreal.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
What did he like preach on? Like what was kind
of like the because I know different pastors do different
stuff for Easter.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
But yeah, he basically gave the account of Jesus and
what he did for us, and then he flipped the
lesson into forgiveness and started a three part series on
forgiveness and and dude, it was just it just blew

(09:04):
my mind. I mean my daughter was there, and my
son in law and all of our grandkids and my mom,
my sister, me and my wife. And I don't think
there was a dry eye with any of the women,
Like honestly, they just were all just welled up with you.
You know you're tearing up to Oh dude, absolutely no.

(09:25):
You don't remember how we talked about in our other
podcast about putting our hands up, raising your hand up
when you're singing or whatever. Oh brother, I was all in, man,
I have both them hands up in the air, my
head down.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
I was.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
I was into it. It was the Holy Spirit was
just moving.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I was.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Pastor Jeff, my pastor Jiff. He uh, he actually did
a pretty cool take on it. He preached on ponchous
Pilot and like I had always heard like my entire
life that like punchous Pilot drove himself crazy washing his
hand and like eventually like killed himself. But you know,

(10:06):
Pastor Jeff did a he studied it really deep because
he said he was like reading a book or come
across something that was like wait what, and like he
actually took a deep dive into it. He said that
when you actually look at the historical context. They said
that so his wife Claudia, which if you read like

(10:32):
the story, she was kind of already convicted as it
was unfolded, But he was saying, not only did she
become a believer, but there's significant evidence that later on
where Paul was mentioning someone named Claudia, that he was
actually referring to Poncha's Pilot's wife. But he said not

(10:53):
only that, but Ponchious Pilot left the Roman Empire and
became a follower of Chriss as well. And he was
talking about how he actually became He started painting and
was like painting like portraits of like different versions of
the trial and stuff. And then he said, not only that,
but Winston Churchill became obsessed with Ponscious Pilot, like towards

(11:15):
the very end of his life, and he looked at
Ponchious Pilot and basically said, well, dude, if Pilot is
the man that basically convicted Jesus to death, and he
become a believer, then there's no reason why I can.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
So he was actually talking about how.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Winston Churchill at the very end of his life, which
we were talking about last time we did an episode
like calling on the Name of Jesus and you know,
like at the very end of someone's life or whatever.
But like he said that Winston Churchill actually became a believer,
like right kind of towards the end, and so, which
I was like blown away because I was like, dude,

(11:52):
I didn't I didn't know that, you know, I'd always heard.
I always heard that he drove himself crazy and like
eventually killed himself. So so it was definitely it was
cool and different, interesting take, but yeah, man, it was
you know, like I said that that Saturday and I
get the same vibe on Sunday nights. It's like if

(12:13):
like if you go on Sunday nights, it's a totally
different vibe because again, it's like everybody's there because they
want to be there.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
It's not like, okay, when we go to you know, Sundays,
you know.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Church and get my make sure my fire insurance is
up to date and you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
But dude, it was it was really and like.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I think, like we talked about like both of our
walks with Christ have definitely strengthened over the last little while.
But Dude, this last like going into Good Friday and
then Easter. You're like, I really was like emotional, you know,
I guess just where I'm just I feel so close
to God now. But like me and my men and

(12:55):
my cousin, we did a Bible study Good Friday morning.
We met at waffle House and we met from like
eight to nine, and I was basically like, dude, like
you know, by the time we ended it, I was like, yeah,
Jesus was basically on the cross, like as we're leaving,
and it was like when we started, I was like, dude,
he's probably carrying the beam up to Galgotha right now.

(13:16):
It was just like it was really weird and emotional,
like weird in a good way. But like even the
night before, Dude, on Thursday night, I was like having
a hard time sleeping because I was like, Dude, you know,
he's probably leaving the Lord's Supper right now. Judas is
like on his way to betray him, and then he's
probably going to the garden to get him. And it
was like I just really This was one of the

(13:38):
most special Yeasters for me, and dude, I think that
this podcast is a big part of that because like
we're basically doing like a weekly Bible study, you know,
but then having the accountability between me and you and
you know, like you said, we're both like rooted in
church and stuff, and just I don't know, just this
one was really special for me.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, it hit different for me this year too. I
spent more time pondering what Jesus went through in the
end on Friday while we were at service. It was
one of those I mean, dude, I don't know, I

(14:22):
get upset because what they did to him, you know,
before they finally took his life from him, and it
just it hurts me. And Friday the service, I can
tell you, I have never drew never in all my
life been doing good Friday service, never gone, never had
any interest. So this was the first one, and I

(14:43):
can tell you I'll make them from here on and
then you know, the Saturday service and then Sunday. My
wife and I had volunteered to help work at the
church to help with parking or admin or whatever they needed.
So we got there and and they didn't They ended
up not needing us, which is I mean, go god.

(15:04):
You know the fact that they had enough volunteers to
cover everything that they told us, So you got to
stick around and hang out if you want, but we
don't need you to do anything. I was like, yeah,
we can do that. So Sunday was Sunday was good too.
You know, we're trying to we're really trying to dive
into our church home and we actually signed up and

(15:24):
tomorrow afternoon we go meet with the administrator for the
janitorial team for the church and we he got up
there about six weeks ago on stage and said that
they were really struggling with the janitorial staff and they
couldn't keep the stuff clean and maintain. So we're going
to volunteer in that department and the second Sunday of

(15:45):
every month, we're going to help clean bathrooms and stuff.
Just to get Dove in.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, so, you know, and I kind of talked about
it in the last couple episodes, but she had a
bit of a dental issue there too. To tell us
about your stretch there because Easter was awesome, and then
right after that was like.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Oh, dude, I went to in Portugal. I had a
filling fallout, So I went to a dentist there and
he filled it great. I thought it was great, you know,
I thought it was fine. And then after her Easter Sunday,
I think it was Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Not like the day we were going to record up there.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, I think it was Tuesday. Not just did the
filling fall out, but like a quarter of my tooth
came out with it, So my tooth was already broke
in half. They filled it, and then when the filling
came out, another piece of tooth was stuck to the filling.
And I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. So I

(16:45):
called the dentist. I got an emergency type visit with her.
She's booked out until March for new patients, but she
got me in. She put the filling in and sanded
down the rough edges so I wouldn't cut my tongue
or whatever. That's why I couldn't do the podcast. I
couldn't talk, dude, it was just shredding my tongue.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
So I go in and I see her and I
get it filled and everything's peachy. I'm like woo. And
then like two days later, I don't know what it was,
but I got a stomach something, and no, it was
more than two days later. Either way. I woke up
one morning running for the bathroom and just dry heat.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I think it was that next week because he talked
on Tuesday, and because we recorded that episode two weeks
before Easter, and then it was that Tuesday you had
your tooth and then you're like, well, I'm gonna get
it fixed Monday, like.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Oh, we got two week buffer.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
And then it was like, dude, I don't know what's
because I think you're like, I don't know if I
got flu or what. And so that carried into like
the next week or whatever, because you had the flu
and then a stomach thing and shouldn't of that, and
I was just like, man down.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Dude, I got hammered that stuff that I had. I'm
still dude, Yeah, hammered in a bad way, hammered with
the flu that I'm still not out of the woods.
I mean, I'm still not one hundred percent. My stomach
still a couple times a day gets a little iffy
on me, but I'm getting better. I don't know. It

(18:22):
probably was some viral thing or something. Audrey didn't get it,
which is amazing. I don't know how how in the
world she didn't catch it, because she shares my drinks
and everything, but she didn't get it. So whatever it was,
it was nasty. And then I finally started feeling well
enough to sit down and start hammering out notes for
this podcast. And then Sunday night, Sunday night, my wife

(18:47):
and I were watching TV in the living room, getting
ready to our little evening snack, and we had chocolate declaires.
And I get a chocolate declare and I'm eating it.
It's a little mini one and I'm eating it, and
all of a sudden, I'm like crunching, and I'm like,
how pretty clares aren't supposed to be crunchy. And I
reach in my mouth, dude, and I pull out my filling.
The whole filling that that dadis put in is gone.

(19:09):
I've got a big hole in my in my tooth again.
I go see your day after tomorrow to get the
crown or whatever she's got to do put on. But yeah,
I did the filling fell up today.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
That's no brain oh either, because me and you both
get terrible headaches. You know, I don't know if min's
when I was younger, I slipped and fell in like
a drainage ditch and the hypercentem a necro bad and
so like I don't know if it's because of that
or what, but like basically ever since like kindergarten or

(19:41):
like first grade, I can remember getting bad, but we
both get bad migraines to where are which there was
one night I think We're going to record or something
and I was like I had a bad migraine yep
or something, but yeah, which or well that was on
a Wednesday, think because I woke up just thatts out

(20:03):
and then like an hour or two before church, I
was like I woke up and I was like, I'm
telling her.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I was like I might go to.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Church because I don't ever get to go on Wednesday
nights because it works so late. And she's like, really,
are you sure? And I was like yeah, I think yeah,
and like I didn't even know it, but she's like,
you look terrible, but dude, I had like partikil hemorrhaging
like all around like blood vessel shots like thread spatches
like all over my face and my eyes were like

(20:31):
puffy from where I was just like because I like
rolled over had a bad one didn't have anything on
my stomach, so it's just like dry heaving and water
whatever I drank and stuff. But I got to go
to church too. Actually last week too, I got to go,
which was incredible because it was like I was just
it was one of those days where and you know
how I get behind. I was just like a head

(20:53):
all day long and then I'm like, it's gonna be tight,
but I'm like, I think I'll have just enough time.
I think it was like five minutes later something, so
I'm like, yeah, let's keep that momentum going, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So it's been The enemy has been just I don't
know if it's spiritual warfare. I don't know if he
likes or doesn't like how much my wife and I
are starting to dive into everything. Whatever it is. Man,
I was getting hammered and I'm just praying that I've
seen the light at the end of the tunnel. This
podcast means I'm out. I'm actually recording tonight. Nothing out

(21:28):
of it, well, other than the filling falling out, but
I don't care. That was not dude. My tooth could
be a razor blade slicing my cheek and tongue. Right now,
and I would still be recording this podcast because I
was not going to go another week without doing it.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, dude, I think it was definitely spiritual, man, because
like even I had so many technical difficulties trying to
record the Resurrection episode, which you know I talked about
on that episode, but like it was just like there
was so much and like I was sitting there thinking, like, dude,
why am I facing so much? Like and then but

(22:04):
then it dawned on me. It's like, dude, the resurrections
like the most important thing because like literally that's what
separates Christianity from everything else.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
And it's like.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
That's what makes Jesus who he said he was, you know.
And so I don't know who needs to hear that
episode or whatever, but you know, it was yes, spiritual
warfare all around, dude for sure.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, man, yeah, you know that. Just just keep getting hammered.
But all we can do is just keep praying and
keep looking towards you know, Christ and looking reading and
our tell you, what got me through a lot of
it was when I was able to sit up long
enough in my chair with just reading through my Bible now,
just taking in scripture that's Uh. There's a lot of

(22:51):
people out there who like to read. Great book, you
gotta read it more often. There's a lot of people
out there who can't stand reading. I'm one of them people. Honestly,
I'm not a big reader. I never have liked reading books.
Like my wife can sit down for two days straight
and just read a book and do nothing else. And
I know, but yeah, just stayed in scripture, man, and

(23:15):
push through. I mean, I'm sure you can hear. I'm
still exhausted. I'm tired. You know, I've had no energy.
I literally in three days time, I ate. I think
a half a pack of Ritz crackers in three days,
that's all I ate. So I had no energy. But yeah,

(23:35):
good now, praise God, no complaining. I'm good. It's all gone.
Looking forward to summer getting here.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
You can, you know, you can just say, oh, yeah, no,
I fasted for three.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
It was fasting, that's right. I was fasting. So we
sell our house over in Portugal.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well, you know, well, is there anything else you want
to catch us up on the in or I mean,
I'm know you're getting excited to start to warm up again.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, no, I'm not gonna Yeah, I'm done dumping on
our listeners about all my woes and problems. I'm sure
they have enough of their own as well.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
We we missed you, though, you know we wanted to.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I know, I appreciate the prayers everybody out there was
praying for me. I appreciate it. I really do prayers work.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, dude, it's and like I said, man, I don't
know if we just had a couple of new people
pick it up and burn it down or what. You know,
our number one listeners back. Garrett he was, you know,
he got uh, he got behind there for a minute.
He he lost his earbuds and had all this.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
He was telling me. He's like, dude, I'm gonna get
caught up.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
I lost my earbuds, I can't listen at work, and
blah blah.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
But our number one listeners back.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I know for a fact we had at least one
new listener because I've talked to him in person, and
I talked to another buddy mine that's in Connection group
that said he was gonna check it out. But dude,
it was funny because like, I don't it was like
right I think it was like right after we had
recorded the last episode we did, we had like a

(25:08):
fifty or sixty listened swing. It was I was like, like,
I looked at it the next day it was.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Like hoping crap.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
So yeah, so you guys are definitely picking it up.
You're starting to share it with people. It's reaching that
next level where it's like first levels, like immediate friends
is listening because they love us and want to support us.
But it's starting to get to that next level where
you guys are starting to share it and we're so
grateful because that keeps us rolling.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
We really are thank y'all so much. Garrett, no more sabbaticals. Brother.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, he's by far our number one most engaged fan
and listener.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
But we may have we may have to get old.
Garrett his own T shirt says I'm the first and
only fan or some.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, he said he's going to pick up some merch
whenever he gets caught up on spills and stuff. But yeah,
I would say it's probably your turn to pray, Yes.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Sir, I would say it is definitely my turn to pray.
So we'll go ahead and get popped on with the prayer.
I'm trying to think any requests.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
My my sister is in the last stages of her chemo.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
She's on the other side of that.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
So, but she's been out of work and her job
did not give her the chance to didn't give her
the chance to do disability. So prayers for that, and
that's really the main one that I have right now.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I don't know if you have any you want to
add or.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Whatever, but yeah, I'll throw them in there as I go. Here, Okay, here, ready,
I'm ready to get this started. Heavenly Father, Lord Jesus,
we come to you with thanks and grateful heart and
grateful souls. Father, you are the king of kings, you

(27:04):
are the Lord of lords. Jesus, we love you. We
love the fact that we got to celebrate everything you
did for us, your sacrifice, and all you did for us. Father,
I just pray that you open everybody's ears tonight that
are listening to this podcast or whatever time of day
it happens to be, and I pray that you allow

(27:26):
the Holy Spirit to flow through Drew and I as
we get into what we're supposed to do since we've
been left behind here. Father, I just pray that you
open our minds, clear our minds so we can receive
this message and receive your word, Father, and come to
understand it better.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Father.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
I pray for all of our listeners out there. I
pray you give them comfort and let their cups overflow.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Father.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Father. We pray for Drew's sister. She's in a tough
spot right now, and Jesus, she needs you. She needs
you to come in a hurry. And I pray that
somehow you find a way to bless her financially, whether
it's disability or some other way. Father, With you, there's
always a way, And I pray that you bless her

(28:15):
financially so she doesn't have hardship. Father, Father. I pray
for my cousin David. I know that he's running out
of options with his cancer and his chemo, So, Father,
I just pray that he draws close to you as
that time comes. Father, we love you. We thank you
for this podcast. We thank you for the opportunity to

(28:36):
share your word with all of our listeners and maybe
help them understand you, kind of like how we do
we love you? Jesus, let me pray this in your name.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
An It's yeah. So Chris has taken the lead on
nights episode. This is one you've had on your palate
for a while here.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah. Man, this is one of those ones where we
are talking about it. It's perfect timing, you know. It
was good that we waited until this time after Easter Sunday,
so all of our listeners out there, where we're getting
into tonight is so Jesus is crucified, he's placed in
the tomb, and he comes back the third day to

(29:31):
show himself and show that he has risen, because, like
Drew said, without the risen Christ, our Christianity is nothing.
It's the fact that his body was not in that
tone and that he's at the right hand God. That's
how we know he's our Lord. So we're going to
kind of recap a little bit of what happened after
he rose on the third day.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
We know that this is important too, because there's a
lot of people that think he like when he resurrected,
like okay and then lived happily ever after, like they
forget that, Like, no, he was here for like forty
days afterwards.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah. Yeah, So after he rose from the dead, Jesus
appeared to over five hundred people in forty days, So
a lot of people are like, oh yeah, you know
a huh sure. You know everybody was in conspiracy about it.
Everybody was just like, oh yeah, they all just agreed,
so we would think it happened. But I don't care

(30:30):
who you are, You're not getting five hundred people to
agree and put themselves in harm's way of being basically
executed for their belief.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
And so when when he like you know, during the
before he came back, the disciples basically went into hiding
like they were far for the lights, you know, like yeah,
literally it was like scattered. Yeah, like dude, our you know,
number one draft pick just like lived like and they

(31:04):
were you know, just I mean in fear for the wife.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, I mean, can you imagine that that you've got
Jesus God in the flesh. You know that it is him,
you know, he is the Messiah, and pretty much you've
got this security blanket around you everywhere you go with
him as you're one of the disciples, Like, you know,
I'm with God, What's going to happen to me? Now
he tells me, I'm safe, I can believe it. Okay, Well,

(31:32):
I just watched the Romans execute God right in front
of us. I'm out. I'm gone, yeah, you know, I
mean that would be my reaction. I'd be like, WHOA, Okay, well,
didn't see that coming.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
You know, a lot of a lot of the Jews
at that time too, they believe that the Messiah was
going to come back and be this great military leader
that was going to overthrow the Roman government. So like
they thought, oh, yeah, dude, we're about to and then
like he dies and they're like oh no, you know, well.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
That was judas scariest biggest problem with Jesus was he
couldn't understand you're God in the flesh. You could like
completely destroy the Romans in any other army of the
army that ever came up against you, and you're you're
acting like a peasant instead of a king. You're serving people,
you're doing these teachings and you need to conquer Roman.

(32:30):
Because of his disbelief or because of because of what
Jesus was doing instead of what Judas thought he should
be doing. And so that's why Judas betrayed him, because
he didn't have faith.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, even in the Upper room when Mary Magdalene, you know,
she was basically annoying thing Jesus with all these super
expensive like spices, and perfumes and stuff. He's like, dude,
you know how much that costs? Like he's like worried
about the case, the costs of the pers you know.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, and then Jesus said, what she's done is a
beautiful thing. She's prepared me for burial. Oh, I mean yeah.
But Judas, Judas was all about the money from day one,
you know, he was. He was a money guy, that's
what he did. And when he wasn't making money and
at times got hard financially, you know, sell Jesus for

(33:22):
thirty pillars pieces of silver, but he had to as prophecy.
Unfortunately for Judas, he was part of prophecy and he
got the bad end of that stick.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
But anyway, so we've got Acts one three, all right,
Jesus rises from the dead and appears to over five
hundred people in forty days after his suffering. He showed
himself to these men and gave many convincing proofs that
he was alive, talking about the apostles. He appeared to
them over a period of forty days and spoke about
the Kingdom of God. We have a little kind of

(34:00):
a timeline here. I've got laid out a little bit
of much as I could find on it drew and
the time I had. But so the first person Jesus
appeared to on the road was Mary Magdalen, or not
on the road, but the first person he appeared to
was Mary. And so he rises from the dead, he
finds Mary in Mark sixteen nine through eleven. You want

(34:22):
to read it, brother.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
So starting with verse nine, when Jesus rose early on
the first day of the week, he appeared first to
Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven out seven demons,
which that right there, I mean, you talk about a
lot of people like Mary Magdalene before Jesus would have
basically been like a story like a drug addicted OnlyFans model.

(34:48):
As she went from being like you know, on the
opposite side of the spectrum to the first one that
Jesus appeared to, which is pretty powerful.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Well, that tells you also that nobody is beyond the
help them God.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, she went out and told those who had been
up had been with him, and who were mourning and
weeping when they heard Jesus was alive and that she
had seen him. They did not believe it, which is
you know, natural reaction.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Well, I mean we're human beings there. We've nobody on
this face of this earth has ever seen another human
being come back from the dead.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, I mean that's you know, like you said, that's
one of those things. It's like and you know we've
talked about before. You know, Lee's Strobel in a case
for Christ. You know, he basically talked about how if
you know, they were going to cook up this story
at the time, like you know, women were basically viewed

(35:45):
as like second classes, as Jesus actually went against the
grain and sort of put you know, women equal with men.
But if they were going to try to cook up
a story to make it convincing, they would have actually
used like Peter or you know, some kind of like
you know, male respected figure. But you know, to me,

(36:06):
that just kind of proves sort of the abilinity of
the Bible.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Well right there, I mean, they could have easily switched
this whole timeline up and said that he appeared to
the apostles first and then to marry because we don't
want anybody to think he went to Mary first, because
we don't look at women that way. So the fact
that in the Bible it says he went to Mary
Magdalen first before he went to his apostles. I mean

(36:33):
that tells you right there that they're not lying, because
they if they were lying, they would not have ever
said that Jesus saw Mary first. It would have been Simon,
Peter or somebody.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
They also wouldn't have died defending the story.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
But right, I don't worry.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I would say spoiler alert, but sorry, this episode's been
out for a couple of thousand years.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
But yeah, anyways, so after he appears to marry Magdalene,
then he appears to two believers traveling on the road.
Now let's I want to I want to get your
opinion on this one. So Mark sixteen twelve and thirteen afterwards,
Jesus appeared in a different form to the two of
them while they were walking in the country. These returned

(37:16):
and reported to the rest, but they did not believe
them either. So is he talking about was it two
of the apostles that Jesus appeared to on the road
or two just two believers? It really doesn't say, yeah,
I was. I've got my study Bible right in front
of me and I'm trying to find those But anyways, Yeah,

(37:37):
So the fact that Jesus appeared to two men. What
I never understood was it says that he appeared to
them in a different form. Right, So the fact that
he appeared to them in a different form, what does
the NKJV say, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Know he appeared in another form to two of them
as they.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Oh, actually, let me back up the.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Little con that's all right, It was just for me
when I when I was doing my research, I know
that that I had heard this verse before, and I
had questioned that before as well. What, Yeah, what does
it mean by he was in a different form? Like,
we know that he was still in a human body
because that's how he communicated and the apostles down in

(38:26):
Thomas stuck his fingers in the hole, So he was
still a physical body when he appeared to them. But
did he appear in maybe spirit form to the two
on the road.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, I mean that's like you said, that's definitely an
interesting question, which if you guys are listening, we're kind
of looking this up in real time because we both
have add real bad But AI says, which you know,
think it for what it's worth, It says, uh, he
it likely means he appeared in a way that was
not immediately recognizable to Encopples, Perhaps an i glorified or

(38:58):
different state, you know.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
So like I don't know, maybe.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
He was like blowing, had like an aura of some sort,
you know, but this could suggest the change in his
appearance or change in the way he presented himself, even
a spiritual transformation. So again, maybe last time they seen
him he was like you know, in the quote unquote
human form, and then when he appeared again, he was

(39:21):
in like a glorified body, like somewhere in between. Definitely
definitely something to think about.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, absolutely so I will. I've gotten notes written down here.
I'm gonna be calling this week tomorrow, hopefully getting a
hold of one of my associate pastors at the church, Zach,
and I'll ask him what his what what the church's
take on this is, or his personal either way however
that works. But yeah, I'd like to get into that because,

(39:49):
like I said, when I was going through the Bible
and I was reading that and I was typing out
the verses, I kind of stopped on that one. I said, well,
I'd like to that's one that that that's vague to me.
I'd like to make a little more sense of that,
so we'll have to work on that for sure. But okay.
So then after Jesus appears to Mary Magdalen, then the
two guys on the road. Then he appears to the disciples,

(40:13):
all eleven of them, including Thomas. Now all I say
all eleven of them because at this point Judas is
Scario is gone. He's dead. He committed suicide or whatever,
so he's gone. So there's only eleven. So we got
Jesus appears to disciples, including Thomas. You want to read it, brother.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, says Later, Jesus appeared to the live and as
they were eating, he reviewed them for their lack of
faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had
seen him after he had risen.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
That's Mark sixteen fourteen.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
But yeah, do that.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
So you think he was a little irritated that they
still after all that time with Jesus and all of
the miracles, they saw the empty tomb. Can you imagine
being Jesus and going and yes, still don't believe?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Well, uh, you know, I think it was in John
where I was reading last week.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
There's one point where he can you still hear me though?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, yeah, yeah, it's just.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Because I'm clicking in and out of screens. But I know,
like so in John he kind of appeared to the
rest of the disciples without Thomas, and then they tried
to tell him about it and that he's like he
didn't believe, and that he comes back and puts his
fingers in the piercings and stuff like that. But even
in that moment when he was talking to Thomas, he said,

(41:43):
you know, blessed are those who haven't seen yet still
believe You've seen and you believe, but you know, he's like,
there's others that believe that haven't seen, you know, So
again here he's just re kind of reiterating the same
thing as like, dude, like, seriously, have everything I've done,
like you know, you know, the prophecies and stuff. It's like,

(42:04):
you know, he's basically like, you still don't believe that
I'm back, you know, I guess I'll show you, you know.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like, you know, he rebukes them, So
you know, he was kind of well, you know, giving
him a little lashing there, probably for for not believing,
but in the same sense, I mean, he knows we're
human and yeah, he had to know that that that
that was going to be a lot for anybody to believe.
You know, that he's coming back from the dead, because

(42:33):
that's never happened before other than Lazarus and the little
girl that Jesus brought back. But Jesus is gone, So
who's bringing him back is probably what they thought.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah, we know.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Jesus can bring people back, but who's bringing him back?

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, which is natural, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah. So then after Jesus appears to his disciples. While
he's with them, he gives them the Great Commission and listeners,
this is going to be Mark sixteen, fifteen and sixteen.
You can also find it in Matthew twenty eight sixteen
through twenty. He said to them, go into all the

(43:11):
world and preach the good News to all creation. Whoever
believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does
not believe will be condemned. So Jesus gives this great
commission to his disciples and says, okay, well, now you're
on your own. So Jesus ascends to heaven. Is the

(43:31):
next time and thing of the timeline. That's Mark sixteen,
nineteen and twenty as well. As Luke twenty four fifty
through fifty three, so Mark nineteen or Mark sixteen nineteen.
After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was
taken up into heaven and sat at the right hand
of God. Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere,

(43:52):
and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word
by the signs that accompanied it. So now you got
the disciples and they watch, literally, they watched Jesus be
taken up on the cloud in the clouds, and can
you imagine the jaw drop there?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Yeah? Well, I talk about your ultimate mind.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I mean, yeah, at that point you got to wonder
what somebody slipped in your food. You know, you're watching
Jesus just to send up into the clouds and disappear.
And and then what, well, I mean, what are you
stuck with? What? What are we stuck with? Two thousand
years later that we didn't even get to see him go?
We never saw him. So I put in just yeah,

(44:40):
I'll let you tell just I put in what did
the apostles do? Y'all? Listeners? I didn't get I only
got to seven of them, I believe because some of
them I couldn't find. And there is a lot that
we could. We could, literally, brother, we could do an
episode on each one of these apostles and where they
went after Jesus descended, like literally each one whole.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Podcast I did. I did one last week.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, yeah, I guess the thing.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
And that's what I was going to.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Say before, like, is you know, when Jesus descends after that,
the disciples were never the same. And I think that
that only speaks to like the transformation that happened, because
it's like they seen and then like even if you
read the Bible as you're reading through different parts of
the Gospels, it even says, you know, at the time

(45:31):
when he said this, that they didn't quite understand and
then they recollected later, you know. But again, when they're
in the Upper room, Jesus basically says in John, you know,
I'm going to send another comforter essentially after I leave.
And what he's talking about is He's going to give
us the whole spirit.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
And that's why, you.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Know you heard me say before, like essentially this whole time,
if God wasn't speaking or Jesus wasn't speaking, you know,
they had to just kind of use their own intuition.
But then after he leaves were left with the Holy Spirit.
And once that happens, that's where I mean, the apostles
completely make a one to eighty and they're completely sold out.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
And you know you've heard.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
It said before, or maybe maybe you haven't.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I don't know who's listening, but.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
It's like, you know, people will die for what they
know to be true or what they think is true,
but they're not going to die for just complete to
a wife. And at some point there's going to be
a chain that breaks. Somebody's gonna crack and be like, Okay,
well yeah, you know, actually like here's what really.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Happened, but it never happened.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Like they all died, I think every one of them,
but like one of I think one of them ended
up kind of living out the rest of their life.
But basically all of them not only were put to death,
but on their deathbed they were still proclaiming that Jesus
was a messiah, he was God, and proclaiming the things
that he did ought And I mean that speaks volumes,

(47:03):
you know.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
It really does you gotta, I mean, can you I
try to put myself in their shoes sometimes and imagine
what it would have been like. Walking with Christ, which
to me is just completely unmanageable, no matter how hard
I try. And then I think about, you know, everybody

(47:26):
think about like your mom or your dad, or simply
somebody that you love with everything that you have, and
that person just disappearing, just gone, just just not there anymore.
It's hard. And you know, as humans, the first thing

(47:48):
that's going to set in, especially for the Apostles, with
all the persecution that they were facing for following Jesus.
They're like, well, now Jesus is gone, We're going to
get persecuted. So yeah, they scared. They ran. I would
have too, I would have been out of there. And
then Jesus comes, you know, gives the Great Commission and
they're like, well, yeah, that's all fine and dandy, but

(48:11):
where are you coming back?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah? Well and so.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
And that's an interesting thing too, because a lot of
people that try to discredit the Bible they talk about
how many years after that the earliest Gospels were written,
which depends on who you look at, who you talk to.
Some scholars say thirty to fifty years, some say fifty
to like eighty years or so. But a lot of

(48:36):
people they point to like, oh, well, the Bible's fake
because you know whatever, these stories came fifty years after.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
But the thing is is that only.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Further proves this validity because literally he says like, hey, guys,
I'll be back, and they're like okay, And so they're
thinking like, okay, well, you know, you should be back
any minute now, you know, and some time passes and
they're like and back then, everything was like oral tradition stories.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
It was spoken.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
It wasn't like not every single person knew how to
read and write and whatever. And you know, even at
that in some of these areas where Jesus was traveling,
like a lot of these places didn't necessarily have a
lot of money, so like the pyrus and even having
the stuff to write it down was it was hard
to come by. And back then they had to like

(49:25):
memorize the scriptures and they memorized them and locked them in.
But like after a certain amount of time passes, they're like, uh,
we should probably like write this down because it's been
a minute, you know. And to me that that just
further proves the validity of the because it's like like, literally,
let's use common sense. He's like, Okay, I'm going to

(49:46):
come back, you know, here's my teachings, and so they
kind of go on about and then you read through
acts and some of the other you know, chapters of
the Bible there, the books of the Bible, and it's
like it's so easily. It's like, dude, like they thought
he was coming back, and then it's like, Okay, we
probably need to write some of this down before we

(50:06):
forget it, like you know, to me, it's.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Just it's like plain as day, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah, but even at that, I think it's Frank Turk
has a video on this. Love Frank Turk Man, Love
me some. Frank Kirk. He's probably my favorite apologist out
of all of them.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
But he does this.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
You know, like no, no, I was saying, because he's
an apologist, and said, yeah, he apologizes a lot.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
I was just making it. I'm just make sure listeners.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah. Yeah, Frank Cherk is probably one of my favorite dude.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
And he's yeah, yeah, I love he stays calm, cool,
level headed.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah yeah. And he he put in there the evidence
on a timeline up on a screen.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
It was really cool, like old Greek timeline and he
showed when Jesus died and when the first Gospels were written,
according to history what we could find, and it's only
like fifty years after Jesus died that the first Gospels

(51:14):
start coming out, right. So if you were to look
at every history book throughout time and all, and the
Koran and even other books, the Bible is the most
accurate based on how soon after the events it was
written as far as memory goes. People, Oh, you know

(51:37):
that was thirty years ago. You know that was one
hundred and fifty years ago. I can't. I'll write down
what I've got off of notes from that person one
hundred and fifty years ago. But this stuff was written
real soon after Jesus had ascended to heaven. They started
writing this stuff down. So the accuracy of it is
so legitimate that you can't argue it. And that's one

(51:58):
thing that Frank Turk a use for, is that you
cannot argue the validity of this Bible because it was
the the timeframe when it was written is more accurate
than any book you'll find.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Well.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
And you know you also had other people written about
him right after that too. I mean you had Josiphus
Tacticus Supernius, and you know there's all these other people
that were not even followers across that was written about him.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Not that long after his death.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
So it's like you still have gaps in history that
other people build, you know.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Right, So hey, we're getting close. Why don't I Why
don't I go ahead and just give everybody what the
apostles that I do have the information on, and tell
them what they did, and then we can save I
think the next section of these notes would be perfect
to kick off that part two to what do you think?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yeah? I agree.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I was looking at it because I was like, well,
we could either talk about the apostles after on the
next one or either way, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, yeah, go ahead and do this because now we've
gotten through what Jesus did, who he saw, he's gone.
Now where did the apostles go? So what I was
able to dig up on the apostles, no pun intended,
was Simon Peter by far absolutely my favorite apostle. Can't
help it. I just I vibe with Peter. I click

(53:24):
with him. He went to Egypt and then he went
to Persia where he joined Thaddeus. From there he went
to Rome around eighty forty two. He was crucified eighty
sixty seven. Now Peter requested to be crucified upside down
because he didn't think he was worthy of dying like Jesus.

(53:47):
So he was criticism crucified on the Vatican Hill in
Rome upside down because he wasn't worthy to die the
same fate as our Messiah. So then we have Jay.
James went to Spain, then he returned to Jerusalem. He
was behaved beheaded around forty four a d by King

(54:08):
Harold Agrippa. Dude, this is what I'm saying. I mean,
Jesus has been gone forty four years and these apostles
forty four years later are still dying for what they
believe and what they saw. Then you have John. John
was banished from Rome to the Greek island of Patmost,

(54:29):
where he wrote revelations. So I don't know what happened
to him after Patmost. I have to look deeper into that.
And then we've got Doubting Thomas Tamash. Thomas left the
Roman Empire and he preached as far as Kerala in
South India.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah, I kind of covered it on the last episode too,
but he was he was basically martyred, and then they
brought his remains back to Edessa or whatever. It's really yeah,
some of that some like there's you can't get all
the history of the disciples necessarily just from the Bible.

(55:11):
You sort of have to go to other I'm not
saying to you. I'm saying like the listeners, like you
have historians, Yeah, like historians, and sometimes you gotta search
in other areas. But yeah, it's it's he actually gets
credit for bringing the Gospel to India.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
But yeah he was.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I think they said he was like speared to death
and then they brought his remains back or whatever to
a death.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
So yeah, see, all of this right here was just
what I was able to put in from what I
could find in the Bible. I just was researching the
last known whereabouts of all of them, and this is
what I came up with. But yeah, like you could really,
like I said, we could get into each one of
these apostles, all twelve, even the one that was decided

(55:56):
by casting loss after Judas is Scariot was gone. We
could get into the life of each one of these
guys and see where they went and what they did
all the way to their death. But it would be
an episode each one of them. It's there's a lot
of information there to take in. And I was just
sitting today, Drew uh, as I was going through the notes,

(56:17):
double checking everything before our podcast. I was looking in
the back of my Bible at the map, and I
was I was looking at at the maps of the
Great Sea, and and I was tracing out where they
were these different apostles went. I was like, man, that
was that was actually quite a far journey.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Well, and the funny thing is this is like Jesus
and thes a lot. They didn't cover to too much ground. Actually,
Paul in the way.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
More ground afterwards.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
But yeah, Paul covered a lot of ground over there,
which I added Stephen in there then. But yeah, yeah,
so then we Andrew Andrew Uh, he preached on the
shores of the Black Sea and threw out Greece and Turkey.
He was also crucified and Patris. And I couldn't find

(57:11):
the date that that Andrew was crucified. All I know
is he was crucified in Patris.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Also, Uh, you skipped over Philip, but it says you
got oh I did. He was sent with a sister
Mariam and Barfalomew to preach to Greece and Syria.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
My wife, well on real quick got that one. So
my wife I told her to just you know, proofread
the notes. I never asked her to do it. I
just this one was really important to me, you know that.
So she was proof reading the notes. So she's like,
who is that? And I said who? She goes marry

(57:49):
Mary m. And I don't think there's supposed to be
an MN either, I said, babe, it's like old Hebret,
it's Marriam. That mn E is silent Maryam. She's like,
oh okay, that's like trust me. Spellcheck would have got
me on that one.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, And then I added Steven to the list there
when you were talking there for a second. But Stephen
was actually killed by Saul, who was hot up in
the sand Heedrin and you know he later converted to Paul.
But yeah, I think that may actually be in the Bible.
But but uh, yeah, he actually killed Steven, you know,

(58:29):
which isn't I mean, obviously we could do ten episodes
of Paul.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
But oh my gosh. Yeah, so here we are. What
are we supposed to do over two thousand years later?
What are us people in this world right now supposed
to do over two thousand years later. We're gonna tell
you next week, So tune in, come back next week

(58:55):
and listen, and we're gonna tell you exactly what God
tells us worse to be doing while we wait for
our turn in heaven or for Jesus to return, whichever
happens first. So yeah, y'all, come back and next week
and we'll tell you exactly what we're supposed to well,
we'll tell you the best of our ability, what we're
supposed to be doing as Christians.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
So again, make sure you guys like, subscribe, share this podcast.
It really helps us grow. I also leave us a review.
If you have any questions, ideas, questions, comments, whatever you
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(59:40):
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tuning in today. Our prayer is that this episode helps
you feel closer.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
To Jesus and we remind you that hope is alive.
No matter where you are in this journey, Jesus is
with you.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
He's not mad at you, loves you, and until next time,
keep spreading the love of Jesus without judgment. I am
Drew and I am Chris. This is the Unreligious Podcast.
I'll take it easy.
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