#34 - How to Keep Your Fire Lit (Part 4) - Unreligious

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome to another edition of the Unreligious podcast. We Spread
the Love of Jesus without husband or a Bible. I
was focusing solely on Jesus Christ in the Bible. I
am Chris and I am Big drew Ski Big Ruth.
I love that name. You know, I don't have a nickname,

(00:34):
but I love that nickname Big Ruskie. Who gave that
to you?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Uh well, I've been called Drewski before, so I guess
it's the evolution of Big drew Ski. So back when
I did my music, which you were fan of you
might even still have a T shirt floating around, I
went by Big Drew. And then when I started releasing music,

(00:58):
which you know, I did country music that was back
in my heathen days. BC. Okay, no judgment. We listen,
but we don't judge people, okay. But I went by
Big Drew. And then when I started releasing songs, the
platform I was releasing songs on basically was putting them
underneath another artist. So I was like, well, that's not

(01:21):
my work. So then I just went by my name.
And then when I started doing the content creation live
stream and whatever, I changed my my username was Big
la Drewski playing off of Big Lebowski and then I,
you know, like you know, puff Daddy, p Diddy whatever
did he. I ended up dropping the look and then

(01:42):
started going by Big Drewski. And for the record, there's
a popular guy now that's like a content creator that's
known as big Drewski. But I was using that moniker
before he got like famous, so I just kept it.
But uh, yeah, that's just I guess, kind of the
evolution of Big Drewski. But now that's just kind of
my that's my stage name, I guess if you will.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
You know, yeah, one of my kids stole that T shirt.
I can't find out which one. I still don't know
where it went, but it just due.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I made it a point to like try to find
comfortable shirts and that was one thing everybody. It didn't
matter if it was a tank top or the T
shirt or whatever. And uh, but I like trying to
make it a point because like I always, like, even
like you know, our T Spring, which I'll t that
up here in a minute, but even like our T Spring,

(02:32):
I usually try to like order stuff and like test
it out myself, and if it's trash, I just toss it.
But uh, but yeah, dude, I got so many comments
on how comfortable the tank tops and T shirts and everything.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Will Yeah, I love that that shirt. It was so comfortable.
I mean, you saw that picture of it we took
up in Gatlin, Burt. Oh, yeah, your T shirt, Yeah,
big drew it had. That was cool the way I
had the guitars on the side and then the bandana
on the face. Yeah, that was a good logo.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, it was cool logo. I mean, you know, like
I said, it's it's so crazy to me to think.
I guess that just I was in a totally different
headspace there. But yeah, you know, I was doing country
music and stuff, and then my first daughter was born
and I just couldn't afford to do it anymore or whatever.
So I ended up kind of walking away from it.

(03:26):
And I had every intention of coming back to it.
I just never did, and then life led me in
a different direction. But I've been thinking here lately about maybe,
like I don't know, getting back into just maybe playing guitar,
writing some songs or something. But it's just life is
so busy right now it's hard to even think about that,
you know.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, Well I had my wife had
bought me a Fender acoustic guitar a few years ago,
and I picked it up probably fifteen times, and I
was trying to learn how to play it off of YouTube,
and brother, it just was not working for me. I

(04:08):
just was not getting it. So I ended up selling
the guitar when we sold the farm. But we got
back here to Sheboygan, and I'm pretty close with our
worship pastor Zach who plays the guitar, and so I
had a meeting with him and he gave me some
paperwork and some stuff to look at, and he's like, man,
if you can learn these six notes right here, you

(04:31):
can play any song we play up there on the stage.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I tell you the best advice that I So when
I was in college, so well, let me back up.
So I was in like, I played drums ever since
I was little, and when I went into middle school,
I joined the which they called it orchestra, but his
basically banned did drums there. And then when I went

(04:58):
to high school, got in the drum line. They our
football team was trash at the time, so I was like, well,
that's gonna go nowhere. But and I eventually so like,
I had to learn how to play the marimba, which
is basically a piano with sticks, you know, or mallets
as you call it. But and so through that now

(05:20):
I never really learned, Like, so I can read music,
but I have to go, okay, you know, even George
Bush drives forwards, fac like I have to go and
like look at the lines. And then what I would
do is I would write the notes above it, and
then I could look at the notes and play. But

(05:43):
I never really learned how to just sit and play
and read music still this day, don't know how. But
I taught myself how to play piano, and I could
kind of play by ear, you know, and like still
to this day, most of the songs I know how
to play or just ones that I wrote, which is crazy.
But like what I would do is like on the piano,

(06:05):
I would like be like writing a song, and I
would be like kind of singing it and just hunting
and pecking, and then I would kind of find where
it was at, you know, and then i'd be playing
and I'd be like, oh, keep leading, keep leading, Okay,
that's that. That's so it's like I kind of passively
learned some songs, but then the same thing on the
guitar when I was in college or I worked all

(06:27):
summer before college. Well, I went to just this local
music store and bought like a fifty dollars or seventy
five dollars guitar or something. And so when I was
in my dorm room, I just was trying to learn
how to play and stuff. And one of my good
friends was super technical. He listened do you know who
like Dream Theater? Is okay, like it's kind of like

(06:51):
Trans Siberian Orchestra, but he was They're like a super technical,
like melodic metal band that's like they play all the
like crazy difficult songs and stuff. But like he was
really into like Dream Theater and all this like hardcore
like super intricate stuff. And I was like, dude, can
you teach me how to play guitar? And he's like yeah,
And so he was trying to teach me notes and

(07:14):
like okay, do this core, do this and not, and
it was super technical, and I just was like, dude,
I can't. And so one of my redneck buddies literally
he's I was over in his dorm room. I'm like, dude,
I want to learn how to play guitar. But and literally,
he's sitting there with a dip end. He's like, oh, dude,
let me just tell you if this is all you
need to know, and he sat down. He showed me

(07:35):
how to read tabs. Do you know what tabs are?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Tabs are literally like it's a visual chart. And what
it is is like you're look It's like you're looking
down on the front board and there's like x's where
your fingers go. And so he said, dude, if you
will just learn how to read tabs, he said, I'm
going to show you how to read tabs, and he
said stick to this. Pick a song you like, find

(08:02):
the tabs for it, and you can learn how you'll
at least learn the chords. I was like, okay, and
I'm real visual anyway. So I learned how to read tabs,
which is literally it's just a picture of where your
fingers go. And so like you'll be looking at like
four boxes and you'll see the guitar strings and it's
like you're looking down at it and you just say, okay,
so this finger goes here here and hear and then

(08:24):
you play the chord and as long as it's in tune,
you're good. And so Once I learned how to play tabs,
it was, it was, it was just funny. It took
my red neck buddy, but nine days you learn how
to play tabs. And he sit down and show me
how to read tabs, and I was like good. So
after that, anytime I wanted to sing a song, I'd
be like, I'd be like singing the song in my head,
and then I would try to think of a song

(08:46):
that sounded like it, and then I would go look
the tabs up and be like okay, and then I
would take those tabs in the plot to this but
still to this day, which I've not played guitar in years,
but the only songs I could really play are the
songs that I wrote for the songs that sounded like
the songs that I wrote. So right, but yeah, they

(09:06):
just learned how to retabs and you should be good.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Imating I was trying to find it, but my pastor
gave me when I met with him, he gave me
a picture. I think it's what you're talking about. Tabs,
and it's got a square and in that square it
has your fret ford and it has your strings, and
then it has black dots where each finger is supposed

(09:31):
to be played. You know, finger one, two, three and four,
and you finger one, two and three and four and
you put it on and then you strum, and then
you move to the next one and you strum, and
then eventually you'll get to where that becomes he said,
muscle memory, where you know those tabs, and so yeah,
that's what he's kind of having me. Yeah, I just
got to get a guitar.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Now, Yeah, just get a guitar, Get an electric tuner
that you can just put on the get and yeah,
like make sure it's in tune. And yeah, if you'll
just learn how to read even it. The beautiful thing
about music is if you literally just sit there and
you put your fingers on the spots and the tabs,
if you just strum that chord, you're making music and

(10:11):
then from there you just you know, you you you know,
just learn the technique and stuff. But yeah, dude, I mean,
like I said, I miss it, but at the same time,
it's like I just don't have time for it. But
music is still a passion of mine. So man, with
this podcast, you just never know where we're gonna go.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
We only just kind of hey, squirrel, squirrel, always look
at somewhere else again, so.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
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Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, leave us a review please, It's not for us.
Remember that, listeners, this is not for Drew and I.
It's not for fame and fortune. It's not to get
our names out there. It's just to get the word
of God out there and to share what we know.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, we are not making money on this, Like, this
is not a money maker. Now, it would be nice
to break even, but yeah, it literally just helps us
get the word out. We're just doing this honestly. This
is like weekly Bible study for us, you know, so

(13:57):
it but yeah, it's I'm not trying to be famous
off of this podcast or go viral or anything like that.
Like literally, me and Chris are just getting on here.
God laid it on our hearts to do this, and
we just wanted to just start a Christian podcast and
just tell our story and hopefully reach people. So other

(14:19):
than that, how was your Well, I say, how's your week?
But it's been two days since we recorded, So how
is your your last couple of days?

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Well, busy, I told you. We got everything painted in
the house. And so my wife and I have an
agreement that since I'm retired and she's still working full time.
Then I'll take care of the house. She doesn't have
to worry about it. So today was I mean, with
me being sick like I was drew and then turning

(14:52):
the living room in the hallway into a construction zone,
painting and all that. Yeah, that's been busy, but we
we got a lot done. I got everything done today
and then the next time we have some good weather,
it'll be hard work. It's just never end. You know.
It's good, gives me moving, keeps me going.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
It's been a it's been a crazy, crazy week for me.
You know, the company that I work for is heavily
involved in the restaurant industry, and you know, we had
Monday was Memorial Day and so we had Monday off.

(15:32):
But what we like, what I basically have to do
is take five days worth of work and shrinking into four.
So it's been kind of a crazy week. But I'm
blessed to have I'm blessed to have a steady job
that pays the bills, and you know, I'm one of
those people it's like, hey man, it is what it is.
It's more hours, but yeah, it's like I said, it's
just been a crazy week. It's crazy time, dude. But

(15:53):
it's like there's this is for us, this is birthday season, dude.
Like we've got kids birthday parties like the next six weeks,
one of which is my own daughters, and then my
second daughter or well my firstborn daughter hers is like
at the end of July or whatever. So it's it's
a crazy marathon for us. Prayer requests. I still have

(16:20):
the same prayer request from last week, but anything different.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
No, same thing. I've got a procedure coming up on Wednesday,
so let's just pray that they have some answers. I
got a call from the doctor today and they did
find something. So if she didn't find anything in the
the oh, if she didn't find anything in the CT

(16:48):
and then she didn't find anything in the other test,
she was just going to cancel the procedure on Wednesday.
But she did find something that she wants to definitely
uh go in and take a look, So that coming
up on Wednesday. Other than that, man, no, we're we're covered, man,
God's God's covered us. We're we're getting beat up, but

(17:10):
we keep getting back up.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Hey, man, that's all that matters up there. I was
trying to think of anything other specific but praise report.
My sister invited me not this Friday, but the next too.
She's going to have her last cancer treatment, which again,
you know, she's she's pretty private about it, and so

(17:34):
I try to not give too many details on her
but are on here. But you know, she basically said,
like she doesn't really have it per se, but what
she kind of had it or was that high risk
but it's like a super specific type or something. And
she said that like she basically didn't have it, but
they're doing all this for like preventative stuff. But you know,

(17:57):
but she's doing her last treatment Friday and she gets
to ring the bell and so she asked me if
I could go. So I'm gonna try to take off
work for that and then I'll actually have a staycation
the following week, so that'll be nice. We're gonna just
kind of, you know, we're just gonna kind of, you know,
basically try to do stuff that we don't normally get

(18:19):
to do, essentially like maybe go to the aquarium or
you know, sit down at some places we want to
eat at and just you know whatever. So that'll be good.
But that's all I can really think of right now.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
So yeah, praise God, we will do. We'll keep. We'll
keep your sister in our prayers, in our private prayers
as well. We keep we always do.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah. Man, I've been slacking a little bit on my uh,
I've been slacking a little bit on my prayer journal,
but I have been praying. It's just I'm not doing
the prayer journal as much as I was. But I
need to get back on that. But I'll go ahead
and pray us up and then we'll get rolling. Dear God,
we just thank you for yet another day on this

(19:07):
beautiful earth. And you know, I don't know where everybody's
at as they're listening to this. I don't know where
the walk's at. I don't know what they've got going
on in their lives. But I just pray for the
listeners and anybody's that's listening to this podcast. Me and
Chris are We're so grateful just to even have people

(19:27):
that are getting fed from this podcast and and it's
it's touching them and it's it's making them think and
and things like that. But I just want to pray
specifically for listeners. I don't know what they've got going on.
You know their hearts and you know things is going
on in their lives. But if there's any if they
have any prayer request right now, God, I just pray

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that they'll lift it up to you and you'll meet
them and have their prayer request and their needs met.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
God.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
We pray for Chris. He's got his upcoming procedure. We
pray that you just keep your hand over him and
his family, and we pray that everything goes smoothly and
he can just get back to one hundred percent. We
just pray that the doctors are efficient and they can
go in and do what they need to do, and
that it'll just go smoothly and he can recover in

(20:19):
a efficient and speedy manner so that he can get
back to doing the things that he does. And you know,
you know his heart. God, he's literally just trying to
live for you, and he's trying to do everything he can,
volunteering at church, doing this podcast, witnessing to people, discipling
his family, and we just really pray that he can
get back to one hundred percent and just move on

(20:41):
to this next phase in his life. Also, God, we
pray for the House of Portugal that you will make
basically open all doors and all paths, that the right
person will stumble on this house and the right person
will move in there. And we pray that whatever anointing

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and blessing and prayer and and your spirit that they
that that they have that's still soaked into that house
could pour out onto them.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
God.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
And we also pray that for their future house. We
don't know what house that's going to be, but I
just pray that you lead them to a house that
not only fits all their needs, but they could start
this new chapter in their life. And and we pray
that they have enough room to even do ministry out
of the house Bible studies have people over and that
it'll just be a true blessing to not only them

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but their family and future generations to come. God. We
also pray for Chris's family. God, you know you're working
in his family. There's so many different just needles that
are that are pointing, that are you know, on on
the scale there, and things are tipping in the right
direction and you're moving and there's conversations that's happened in God,

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we pray that that continues to happen and you could
keep your hand over his family, and we pray that
that you know, you just give him the words and
the wisdom and the guidance that they could touch all
those that's around them and in their communities. God. I
want to thank you. You know, I've prayed so hard
for my sister through this process. I'm so thankful that

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she's on her last treatment and I just pray that
you can miraculously intercede on my behalf and just heal
her one hundred percent of that so she can move
on to this next season of her life. God, and
that you can touch her and work in her life.
And I just want to thank you for any other blessings,
any other praises that we have that maybe we've even forgot. God,
You're working in mind and Chris's life. We're just more

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successful and fruitful and happy than we've ever been. And
we just pray that you bless this podcast and allow
it to continue to grow, that we can go on
and continue to preach your name and spread the good news. God,
And we pray for tonight's podcast that you can guide
our words and let our words reach the hearts of
those that's lived in your heavenly name.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
We pray, Amen, Amen, thank you, brother.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
No problem man. So tonight we are finishing out the
How to Keep Your Fire Lit series. This is part four.
As we've said before, me and Chris are trading subjects.
Next week he's going to be touching on the Covenant,
which was a request from Razl, one of our listeners.

(23:29):
She wanted us to talk about the Covenant, and he's
been plugging away on that. So I look forward to
sitting back and just letting him break that open. I
know he's working hard on it.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
There is so much well.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
And that's a deep topic too, dude. And like when
we first talked about this podcast, you know, we really
was talking about not really keeping it like surface per se,
but we just wanted to keep it relational to those
that's listening and just just focus on Jesus and the Bible.
And it's even in the opening statement there, but like

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that's one of those subjects, dude. That's like, it's a
deep subject. But again, if you guys are listening to this,
you have any questions, comments, you want to suggest a topic, whatever,
email us at the Unreligious Podcast at gmail dot com,
comment on our socials if you're watching this, I don't
care if it's a year or two later we'll find it.

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But we're talking about how to keep your fire lit.
This is part four. We went over and again I'm
just if you're listening to this for the first time,
I'm comparing a literal fire to a spiritual fire. The
things we've covered so far. You have to have a
need or an open us to start a fire, i e.
You have to have a need or open us to God.

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In order to have a fire, you have to have
a spark or heat source. That's your spiritual conviction slash
the encounter with Jesus. We talked about the flame, which
is basically your Christian walk. The environment that surrounds your fire,
the environment that surrounds your Christian walk. We talked about
fuel and oxygen last week. Fuel is the logs and

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the sticks and stuff that you have to put into
the fire. We talked about the different types of fuel,
God's Word, worship, tide and all that stuff. Oxygen. Every
fire has to have oxygen. We compared that to the
Holy Spirit, and tonight I'm gonna kind of wrap up
oxygen and then we're gonna roll into the last two

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and then we'll just I guess share some final thoughts
and stuff on it as we go here. But so
getting back into number six, oxygen, oxygen, the breath of God,
the Holy Spirit, the fire analogy. A fire can't burn
without oxygen. It doesn't have oxygen, it's gonna smother and die.
Even a strong flame will suffocate and die if it's

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cut off from fresh air. Sometimes all of smoldering fire
needs is a breath of wind to burst back into flame.
And just like that with our life, the Holy Spirit
is that breath of life, and the spiritual application is
the Holy Spirit is the breath of your spiritual life.
It brings conviction, comfort, wisdom, power, life, revelation, all kinds

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of things. Without it, our spiritual fire dies. So with God,
you're alive, you're strong, you're burning bright for Jesus. And
when you walk closely with God, breathing in his spirit,
you can You can feel the Holy Spirit through prayer, worship,
surrendering your surrendering your life to Him. And the Bible

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talks about too. You know a lot of times God
he'll speak to us in a still small voice, and
you know, and I oftentimes do to it. If you're
not paying attention, you'll miss it. But your fire is sustained.
Just like your lungs need air, your soul needs the
Holy Spirit's prayers as it's daily, and your fire also

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needs that oxygen. But oxygen also comes through fellowship, the
Body of Christ surrounding you with love, accountability, and encouragement.
Just as coals burned hotter when together, so your fire
is fanned by community. Don't forget as well, blessings of God,
God's favor, provision, peace, answer prayers. This is all oxygen

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to your faith. They remind you that he's near, he's good,
he's working. Blessings don't always necessarily mean money or comfort.
Sometimes there are just moments of peace, joy and trials,
spiritual breakthrough. So some key scriptures and then we'll kind
of open it up a little bit. Genesis two seven

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and the Lord God formed a man of the dust
of the ground, and he breathed into his nostrils the
breath of life, and a man became a living being.
That's you know, you've heard us talk about it before.
God literally wrote his DNA on our heart. He wrote,
you know, it's like a window that he can tap into.

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And you know he made us in his image. But
John fourteen twenty six. But the helper, the Holy Spirit,
whom the Father will send in my name, He will
teach you all things and bring you remembrance. Bring to
your remembrance all things that I said to you Romans
eight eleven. But if the Spirit of Him who raised

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Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised
Christ from the dead will also give you, give life
to your mortal bodies through the Spirit who dwells in
you Hebrews ten twenty four through twenty five. Let us
consider one another in order to stir up love and
good works, not forsaking the assembly, the assembling of ourselves together,

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as in the manner of some, but exhorting one another.
And so much the more as you see the day
approaching James one point seventeen. Every good gift and every
perfect gift is from above and comes down from the
Father of Lights, with whom there is no variation or

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shadow of turning. So then I'm gonna go ahead and
just talk about the application, and then we'll break it up.
The application of this is breathe deeply invite the Holy
Spirit to fill you daily. Stay close to God through prayer, worship,
and just time and his presence be still a no right,

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just sit and listen, Just take it in. Surround yourself
with believers who stir your fire, not smother it. They
breathe into your life, not suck air out right. Recognize
blessings as oxygen fuel that increases your faith and joy.
Thank God regularly for his gifts large and small, and

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don't isolate yourself. You weren't to burn alone.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
So just thoughts on you weren't You weren't meant to
burn alone? I like that, Yeah, I mean I never
realized how important like a church, family or small group
or having people around you really is. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
You know, for ten years I had really nothing to
do with church. I had a lot of church church,
which we did a whole episode actually we did a
whole series on.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
And uh.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I didn't really realize that I needed that until I
got it, and then I realized how much I needed it.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
You know. Yeah, I think that when you're like when
you said, right there, you you weren't meant to burn alone?
Through it goes hand in hand with you weren't meant
to be alone? Right, We we as human beings, are
not meant to be alone. That's why Eve was created

(31:06):
because Adam was alone in the world and God saw
that that was bad, so he created Eve. So we
are all meant to interact with each other. We are
all meant to live life together. But free will allows
us to decide how we want to live that life.
And like you said, us Christians, it sounds really I mean,

(31:28):
it's a really weird kind of metaphor burned together, you know,
I mean us Christians, we're all going to burn together.
I mean that sounds kind of bad. But in a sense,
it's not like we're burning together and help. We're all
burning together with the Holy Spirit and the way you
put the Holy Spirit as the oxygen to your fire.

(31:48):
I want to read something real quick out of John.
I got John sixteen twenty six, and it says, when
the counselor comes, whom I I will send to you
from the Father, the spirit of truth, who goes out
from the Father, he will testify about me. And then
twenty seven and you also must testify, for you have

(32:11):
been with me from the beginning. So the counselor who comes,
counselor what do counselors do?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
They guide you, They guide you, steer you in the
right direction.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
They help you work through your problems. They help you
work through anxiety. So the Holy Spirit is our counselor,
which is the breath for the fire, for the flame.
Without the Holy Spirit, you're just walking around cold. A
lot of our listeners out there. You'll know when the

(32:44):
Holy Spirit comes upon you, there's no denying it, there's
no getting around it. You'll know when that Holy Spirit
comes to dwell inside you. You'll get chills all over
your body, goosebumps, your head will get all tingly. It's
actually a physical reaction action to the Holy Spirit entery.
And when that happens, it's like somebody just took five

(33:06):
gallons of gas and dumped it on the bonfire. Yeah,
does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
And that's the difference too, right, Like we serve a living,
breeding God too. You know, there's a lot of other
religions that's you know, basically like you know, you're worshiping
you know a findly had to word it, but it's

(33:33):
like you're worshiping a person or many persons or you
know whatever. But it's like, you know, God came down
to earth, was our sacrifice, and then once he left,
He's like, dude, when you when we become one, I'm
going to give you the gift of the Holy Spirit,

(33:54):
and that Holy Spirit resides in you. But like that's
the difference, dude. It's like, you know, like I said earlier,
you can get revelation, you can get a word, you
can get inspiration, you can get conviction.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
It's it's like a guide, you know, like you said,
it's a counselor it's a guid a comforter that walks
with you and guide you. And a lot of times
we just ignore it, you know. But to me, the
Holy Spirit is the difference. Like that's the connection. Like

(34:29):
if God was just up, you know, in heaven and
we were just trying to talk to him and hope
for the best, you know, or Jesus came down and
then went back up. You know, at that point there's
a disconnect. But it's like, you know, Jesus is the
mediator between us and God. But then it's like we
have the Holy Spirit that is like sort of like

(34:53):
you know, twenty four to seven support if you will
or whatever. You know, it's like it's always there to
kind of guide you. But I think that like the
Holy spirits, it's like the difference.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
You know, Yeah, I think the Holy Spirit could also
be referred to as your conscience. Yeah, when you're about
to do something that you know you're not supposed to
be doing that, that's the Holy Spirit telling you wrong direction,
that's not that's not the right direction. The Holy For me, dude,

(35:23):
the Holy Spirit when it when it comes on me,
and you know, it's always in me as far as
I'm concerned where I'm at with with my walk to Christ,
the Holy Spirit is always in me. But you know what,
the Holy Spirit is also kind of like a fire
of its own, and sometimes you got to reach in
and you got to stoke that fire and stoke that
Holy Spirit by doing what we've talked about, reading, reading

(35:45):
those scriptures, praying to God, going and you know, serving
maybe meals to the homeless or something and something that
makes your heart feel good about being a human being.
And I think that ignites that Holy Spirit and really
gets going.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
And that's what I was about to say too. Sometimes
the Holy Spirit intervenes when you're doing something you're not
supposed to do to stop you. But then there's other
times when it's telling you something that you need to
do that you're not doing you know.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, and you brought up earlier about you know God,
God talked to us not verbally, not in our ear
But if you're really connected with God and you have
the Holy Spirit working, and you've got Jesus and that
fire is burning that we're talking about, you just know
he's there. And without the Holy Spirit, I think that

(36:35):
feeling would be hard to graft.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, I agree. So to kind of round off the
fire analogy, the last two points that I want to
make is vigilance and discipline. Vigilance is you know, I'm
basically I'm tying that into you have to guard your flame, right,

(37:02):
and we've talked about it on and offully off the series.
No one else is going to protect your fire, but
you you have to be vigilant.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
The fire analogy is, if you leave a fire unattended,
it can either burn out, which is what we do
with our spiritual walk. A lot of time we just
walk away and it burns out. We just we don't
even do anything, We just leave alone. It can either
burn out or it can burn out of control. Right,
we can allow things to get worse. Vigilance is required

(37:33):
to keep it from dying or becoming dangerous. And I'm
also going to add two. This is basically I'm probably
gonna put yours there might at Google help me, But
this is also your discernment. Right, So the spiritual application
is you must guard your walk with Jesus. You've got

(37:54):
to be vigilant in prayer, study and spiritual discernment. Distraction,
sin an apathy, right, just not caring can easily smother
your fire. And now more so than ever, you have
to have discernment. A lot of times, you know, we're
just not paying attention to the music that we listen to,

(38:15):
the preachers that we listen to. Sometimes, you know, a
lot of times we'll just take stuff or face value.
And like me and Chris has talked about in this
series and just all along the podcast, it's like, if
you feel like you're being led to do something, or
somebody tells you that you need to think or do
this or whatever, or you know you think, well, maybe

(38:37):
this is of God, you have to go back to
the scripture and discern for yourself. Because the Holy Spirit
is never going to contradict the Bible. It's just not right.
So like, you know, if it's you know, it doesn't
matter if it's a theological point or point discernment, or

(38:58):
somebody says, oh, well you should do this through you
shouldn't do that. You have to go back to your
word and you have to discern for yourself. And we
literally have a playbook, you know, and there's just nowadays
there's so much stuff popping up, you know, TikTok theology
and just all this stuff. You have to be discerning

(39:21):
and you have to guard your fire. And it's like
I talked about before, I'm not saying listening to country
music is a sin. It's it's not bad. Although I
had a preacher tell me one time that if you
went to a Garth Brooks concert, you're basically going to hell.
And I did go to a Garth Brooks concert, so
it's like.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Okay, I've been too. I hope that's not true.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, well the same the same preacher had, you know,
basically said that like if if you go to the
campground on a Sunday, you're worshiping the wilderness, which I
thought was kind of ironic because I do think sometimes
you have to unplug an unlined, But dude, I know
you're an outdoorsy guy. I don't feel I feel the
most connected to God when I'm out in his creation.

(40:04):
But that's a whole nother thing. But but you have
to have discernment, man. And I'm not saying that if
you listen to country music that you're like a center
of going hell. But for me personally, met Big Drewski
I had to quit listen to it, dude, because it
just made me too comfortable with being lukewarm. It's like, oh, dude, I'll.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Go out and drink beer on a Friday and Saturday
night and I go to church on Sunday and work hard,
and it's just for me personally, I had to knock
it out because it was like, dude, it's just it's
it's not.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
You know. For me, my fire was demming. And so
you know, you have to have discernment, and you know,
you you have to relay that back to scripture constantly.
You have. If you're not sure by a situation it's biblical,
you have to test the spirit to make sure that

(40:57):
it's true, you know. And just some some Bible verses
that I have Efesian six sixteen. Taking the shield of
faith with you are, with which you were able to
quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. I
love that the sword of the Spirit Ephesian six seventeen.

(41:20):
Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the word
of God. And I should have seen some other verses
in there. There's some other ones that I could have added.
But you know, I did a Bible study a while
back on like end times and false prophecy and whatever,
and it's basically, you just have to test the spirit.
And that's something that's biblical. I mean the way that

(41:42):
you test that is you got to go back to scripture.
So and then I'll do I'm just gonna go ahead
and knock out this last point and then we'll we'll
just kind of dissect everything. The last point is discipline,
which sounds similar but it's a little different. And what

(42:03):
I'm applying to this is the discipline of your fire,
your literal fire. It's reusing the coals that you've already
me and Chris has talked about this, and I'm actually
really excited to talk about this, but reusing the coals,
but the discipline, So, yeah, you got to guard your fire,
but you have to be disciplined and keep that fire burning.

(42:27):
The fire analogy is once you have those hot coals,
that fire becomes easier and easier to get burning again.
And actually you can technically keep it from ever going
out in a literal and metaphorical sense. But you don't
have to start from scratch. Just add a little fuel
and breathe a little life into what's already there. Those

(42:47):
glowing embers can quickly become a roaring flame with very
little effort attention. The spiritual application is the same is
true with your walk with Christ. When you've built a
solid foundation through time in God's presence, his word, his worship,
you're rooted in a church, a small group, listen to

(43:11):
a quirky podcast with two dudes that just love Jesus.
Right when you do that, those spiritual coals will remain
even when your outward flame seems to die down. But
the key is discipline. Without it, spiritual laziness creeps in
and allows your fire to go out completely. Discipline is
what keeps the coals hot. It's the daily decision to

(43:34):
show up. It's like you know, Chris has said a
lot of times we've talked about on the podcast, pick
up your cross and follow it daily, Pray, open your Bible,
worship even when you don't feel like it. Stay in
the fellowship with other believers. These habits aren't just routines.
There you're kindling. They're what keeps your fire burning steadily,

(43:55):
to make it easier to rekindle when life tries to
smother it. Don't d estimate the power of what you've
already built with God. Reuse those coals and stay disciplined,
keep add and fuel. Trust that with the breath of
the Holy Spirit, your fire can and will burn bright
again some scriptures. For this reason, I remind you to

(44:18):
fan the flame into the gift of God which is
in you through delaying on of hands. That's two Timothy
one six. Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your
spiritual favor serving the Lord Romany's twelve to eleven. Let
us not become weary in doing good, for at the

(44:38):
proper time we will reap the harvest if we do
not give up. That's Glatian six y nine. The spirit
is willing, but the flesh is weak. That's a good
one out there, Matthew twenty six forty one.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Jesus tell it, just disciples, Tell the possibles, restore to
me the of your salvation and grant me a willing
spirit to sustain me.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Psalm fifty one twelve David's cry after the fall. Ironically enough,
I think Chris just fell out of his chair.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Help I did not. I just fell out of my wife.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
There, Restore to me the joy of your salvation, and
grant me the willing spirit to sustain me. Though I fall,
I will rise. Ah, I will rise like Chris. Just
though I sit in darkness, the Lord will be my light.

(45:36):
That's Micah seven eight. Blessed is the one who preserves
under trial, because having stood the test, that person will
receive the crown of the life of life that the
Lord has promised to those who love him. James one twelve. Again,
you're gonna get probably some James those scriptures in here.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I don't see us ever doing any scripture without some
kind of James.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, so that's just a few verses.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Go ahead, laugh, dude.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
It was funny.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I dropped my pencil and I reached over to get
it off the floor, and the chair just decided it
was going to keep going with me.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Oh, I've got to make sure to pull that clip
at some point. But like, yeah, like literally, I just
see the corner of I see the chair go bloop,
and it was like I seen a hand or something.
I looked over. I was like, I was trying to
hold it together.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
But dude, I was trying to be as quiet as
possible so nobody would hear me getting backed up and
set the chair back up, like the cris just fell
out of the chair.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
My wife from the knocks on the door and peaks in.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
What's going on.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Well, it's one of those It's one of those things, dude.
Anybody on YouTube is gonna be like, did that just happen.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Like that, just out of the chair. Oh the way
to end this series, huh know.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Vigilance but yeah, baby, so vigilance and reusing the coals,
keeping the fire going. You've alluded to this throughout, and
I kept cracking up because I was like, oh, yeah, baby,
we're gonna get there. But I wanted to just get
through that portion. I knew I threw a big chunk
at you guys, we're gonna chew on it here for

(47:19):
a minute, but I just I wanted to make sure
to wrap this up and then give us time to
discuss or whatever. But just some things that stuck out
to you thoughts through that.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
For me.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Or even just anything else we've.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Talked about, but I mean for me, discernment that's a
huge one for everybody. You know, when to reach over
and pick your pencil up off the ground and when
to just leave it there, whether or not to.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Point out to those listening that even just listening, I'm
sure that hurts.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
But my wife heard it clear in the living room.
But anyway, you no, discernment is something you've got to have.
If you meet some new people, right, you meet some
new friends and the first thing they say is, hey, yeah,
we kind of go to church, you know, every now
and then we go to church that you guys want

(48:21):
to get together Friday night at the bar and gets smashed. Uh.
Discernment would tell me that probably not the type of
people I want to make close friends. Discipline, it's the
same thing through. The hardest, hardest thing is discipline because
we all know that human beings that well, we're lazy.

(48:44):
We want to work and make our money, but then
we want to relax and enjoy life after we work
and make our money. When you take on Christianity, you're
taking on working twenty four to seven or at least
as long as your eyes are open and you have
to be in that discipline. It's just like, do we

(49:05):
really want Do you want to get up in the
morning at five o'clock and get your lunch together and
get out the door and go work, you know, sixty
fifty sixty hours a week, whatever it happens. No, you
don't want to do that. I don't want to do that.
But we have to discipline ourselves because we know it's
a necessity in life. We have to work, we have

(49:25):
to make money. It's a necessity. Listeners, I'm telling you,
it's also a necessity to discipline yourself. In the Bible,
you have to discipline yourself. And it's so easy to
slip through to the flash and the pan Christian thing.
You know. I my wife and I we get on
our knees every night and pray every night. But I'll

(49:47):
catch myself without the discipline. You know what, I'm really
tired tonight. I really worked hard all day. My body hurts.
I just don't feel like getting down on the ground.
I'll just pray from Brett from bed and then nine
times out of ten fall asleep while I pray it.
And that's not good to me. So I have to
discipline myself no matter how bad my body. And this

(50:09):
is what I tell myself, no matter how bad my
body is hurting, I guarantee you it as a fraction
of what our Lord's tay do for us. So therefore,
you darn right, I don't care on my worst day.
I need to be able to get down on my
knees because he died for me, and he went through
so much worse than anything I could every magical through it.

(50:31):
So that's where I'm at with the discipline and the discernment.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Yeah, with the discernment saying, man, it's like, you know,
I keep going back to TikTok because like all my
algorithms are like religious stuff. But it's like there's so much.
I mean, you're scrolling and there's lives or there's videos
or whatever, and man like people just take scripture and

(50:59):
they just twist it. They want to say whatever they want.
And if you're not being vigilant and you're not being
discerning and you're not taking what you're hearing, and then
again you know auditing that with the scripture, it's very
easy to get led astray. And you know, it's like

(51:19):
I had somebody ask me a question the other day,
and I'm so thankful that, like, you know, three years
is not a long time, but it is a long time.
But it's like, you know, I'm so thankful that I'm
at the point now where people trust me enough to

(51:41):
like text me or call me or just talk to
me or whatever and like ask me questions about like
oh I seen this video or oh the scripture or whatever,
what do you think about this or whatever? But you know,
I had somebody send me something the other day and
he was like, well, what do you think about this?
And it was like, you know, this person was trying

(52:01):
to like take scripture and basically prove that that's why
the Earth is flat and that you know, and it
was they laid out a quote unquote convincing argument, but
it was just like and he's like, well, what do
you think about this? And I said, honestly, dude, And
I've said this before. I don't know if I've said
it on here, but I have like two files I
have like the mental files, but it's like I have

(52:24):
a file of like this is of the utmost importance,
This affects your salvation or you know, a deep theology
that is very important that you need to know or understand.
And then I have an other file that's like, hey,
I mean I'll find I'll figure that out when I
get to heaven. You know, It's like, it's not really

(52:47):
that important. Does that affect my salvation or anybody else's.
Is that going to help somebody get to heaven or not?
And basically, like I told him, I was like I said,
I mean, I get I see what they're kind of
trying to say, But to be honest with you, I
think that's just like a descriptive distraction, Like why even
go down that rabbit hole. Let's just say the earth

(53:07):
is flat. Let's just say it's flat. Okay, Like what
how does that affect my salvation? And how does that
affect someone else's salvation? Like whether or not the earth
is flat, is that gonna get somebody to Heaven? Literally
to me, I could not even possibly carry in the list, right,
So it's like it's like, dude, it's a distraction. Focus

(53:28):
on what's important. And he's like, yeah, no, you know what,
that's a good point, man. And you know, and going
back to what you were saying, you made some good
points about disciplined dude. You know you have to be disciplined.
And it's like with me, I know, And again I'm
not saying that I think drinking is a sin. I
fully believe that Jesus turned the water into wine. I

(53:50):
think that it was wine that you just wine like
we drink now. I don't, Like, I'm not saying that
drinking is a sin or it makes you a terrible
person or whatever. I think if you're drunk all the time,
or you're drunkard, or you allow it to control your life,
I think that that's the sin. But for me personally,

(54:11):
I don't drink anymore. That was a personal conviction. But
the reason was is I had to be disciplined in
recognizing my inability to be disciplined. So like I had
to be disciplined enough to say I got to cut
it out. I can't drink because when I drink, I'm
not disciplined. Right, So sometimes that discipline is you have

(54:37):
to say no because you know you're going to stumble.
And it's just it doesn't matter if it's if I
go out to eat with this person, they're gonna want
to drink, or they're gonna want to you know, do whatever,
and then that's going to lead to well, hey, let's
go hit this place or oh, let's go do this.
And you know, I have a friend of mine that

(54:58):
you know, I'm really close with, and you know, we
were talking about this. But it's like, dude, a lot
of people say, oh, well, I'm going to go to
the bar to try to witness, or oh I'm going
to try to go be a lot in a dark place.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
The problem is. You can go out with the best intentions,
but trouble's still going to find you. And like, you know,
I've got a friend of mine that's that I'm really
close to, and you know, he's he basically has you know,
he's trying to quit drinking, cut out drinking whatever. And
he was at a bar with his girlfriend and some

(55:32):
friends and stuff, and there was two separate instances, but
one like literally his girlfriend ended up accidentally like bumping
into somebody and they got like really hurt, like hurt
delegra bat or something. But then there was another time
where it was a friend of his his friend and
his girlfriend was out minding their business or whatever, and

(55:55):
people these people just came over and started trying to
like talk Tomack to like his girlfri and this and
that whatever. Well, he literally stood up and was like, dude,
what's going on? Gets sucker punched, knocked out, cold, hits
the ground, passes out for like seven minutes, and when
he wakes up, like cops are there and stuff, and
he's like whoa, whoa, and they're like shuttle down. Said well,

(56:16):
he ends up like getting handcuffed, taking to jail for
like quote unquote drunken disorderly conduct. And it's like he
was asleep for seven minutes, didn't do anything wrong, stood
up like dude, what's going on? Gets sucker punt And
it's like when you're in these situations, sometimes things happen,
like trouble finds you, whether you're doing anything bad or not.

(56:36):
And part of discipline, and one of the things he
was talking about is like, dude, I think it takes
a much bigger man to say, all right, you know baby,
let's just get out of here, Like whereas a lot
of times we think, as a man, well I got
to stand up and defend her on or I gotta
do this, and in those moments you might think you're

(56:59):
being a man, but you know, and you know, and
I've had friends before somebody smack talk. You know, they're
out at the bar, somebody smack talking their girl. They
they're trying to stand up and defend their honor. And
then what's gonna happen, right, Your lady is going to
try to jump in the middle. Guys, guys stop, stop,
and like I've had friends their girlfriend's got punched, and

(57:21):
it's like, you know, like literally fight because women are nurturers, right,
they want to step in and protect us, just like
we want to protect them, right, And it's like, dude,
you get in a fight, then your girlfriend comes in,
tries to break it up, she gets punched, and it's like, well,
I got to protect her honor. She got punched in

(57:43):
the face, Dude. Like it's if you truly love that person,
you should walk away and get them out of that situation.
Shouldn't be in the first place.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
But you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I that exact
scenario happened to me and my wife. We were out
at the bar just before I surrendered the price. And
in Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, you can take your kids to
the bar and serve them drinks at age of five
if you want, at the age of twelve, if you want,
all the way up to eighteen. At eighteen, you can't

(58:13):
buy them drinks anymore because they're legal adult. So we
were out at the bar and it was my wife
and I and my daughter and two of both of
my daughters, and this guy was hitting on my wife
and my daughter and he was very vulgar about it.
He was drunk and I was drunk, and they were
well whatever. So I went over and literally it turned

(58:34):
into a massive bar brawl. And in the midst of
what happened was my daughter tried to get in the
middle of it, try to get me out of it,
and she fell down in the middle of this like
dog pile of men. So my wife went to go
in to grab my daughter and pull her out, right
as I was coming around with the right hook, and
I caught my wife right in the jaw for the

(58:54):
right hook and I wasn't even aiming at her.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Oh yeah, dude, yeah, so much worse.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
I didn't even know. After the fight was over, she
came over and she was holding her jaw. I said,
does somebody hit you? She goes yeah, You said what
She goes, yeah, I got you got a good right hook.
I was like, ah, So that just Yeah, like you said,
it'll find you if you're not living right. And I've
never hit a woman in my life except for that time.
It was an accident, but it's a it's a very bad.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Feeling, especially when it's your lady.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yeah, dude, my fiance at the time.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Yeah. Well, and like I said, dude, it's you know,
I mean, it doesn't matter if it's you know, you know,
if you struggle with sex and you're trying to break
that that stronghold of yours. It's like you may have

(59:50):
to have discipline to not go over to your significant
other's house or have them come over to your house,
or you might have to go out, you know, on
on dates where it's in a very public place, don't
be you know, you may not have to ride in
the car together because when you go to drop them off,

(01:00:10):
you're gonna start smooching and then that's gonna lead to
this or that. You know, discipline is making the correct
decision before you know you're gonna make the wrong decision,
or just not allowing yourself to even be put in
the wrong decision. And you know, and like I said,
all these things is what ties into keeping your fire lit.

(01:00:33):
You know, and I hope you guys have got even
a quarter out of this that me and Chris have.
But you know it's something again, you have to have
that need to build a fire. You got to have
that initial spark. Can't have a Christian walk or a
flame without that spark, that conviction, that encounter with Jesus.
Once you build that flame, you go look at your environment, right.

(01:00:55):
You got to have the right fuel, the right tools,
right the correct logs, reading your Bible, worship all that stuff.
You know, Oxygen, you got to have oxygen. You know,
if you're not allowing the Holy Spirit to work, that
fire is not going to keep breathing. You have to
have vigilance to guard it. And then again you have
to have the discipline. And like we've talked about, once

(01:01:18):
you get them coals, dude, like let's say, you know,
you drift a little bit, you're not quite as close
to God as you were. Once you got that foundation
that coals, you can get it lit right back up.
You know, Chris talked about that a little bit on
the last episode, but like you said, dude, that next day, man,
you can go shake them coals up a little bit.

(01:01:39):
You can pretty much get it started, you know, But
any just closing thoughts anything. I know we've we've covered
a lot over these last four episodes, but you know,
any just things that popped up to you that maybe
you wanted to say in the previous episode or.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Anything, No that I think we covered the previous ones good.
This one, I think honestly drew out of all four episodes,
you saved the most important for the last. And I
think that's the self discipline. Honestly, Without the self discipline,
it's hard. It's near impossible to walk a good faithful
life with Christ if you have no self discipline, because

(01:02:21):
you're not going to know when to tell yourself you're
getting into trouble. You need to turn around well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
And you know, and even the vigilance and discernment, dude,
the enemy is he's got a third of the original
angels that fell from heaven and they are always working.
And the thing is is that although the devil is
not omni president like God, you know, he listens to

(01:02:50):
the words we say. He knows our weaknesses, he knows
what we're vulnerable, and even if you can't get directly
to us, he'll try to affect those around and that's why. Again,
you've got to have the right environment stuff. But you
gotta be vigilant because I mean, he don't even have
to hide anymore, dude, it's out on the plane. It

(01:03:11):
doesn't matter if you watch the TV or whatever. But
you guys gotta stay vigilant. You got to guard that fire.
You got to keep that fire going. And you know,
more importantly, once you get your fire going, you can
disciple others and teach others and bring them towards your
fire or help them build their fire. But you can't

(01:03:34):
let yours die if you start getting burned out. Nudge
nudge and wink wink. If you start getting burned out,
you got to focus back on your fire, you know.
And it's something that you can't help anybody else if
your fire goes out. So that's pretty much all I
have on this one. As per usual, again, make sure

(01:03:57):
you like, subscribe, follow, share, leave us, review, send us
an email comment on this all that fun stuff. That's
all I got.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Yep, that's all I got too, buddy. We'll see y'all
next week.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yep, y'all have a good one. That's been The Unreligious
Podcast

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