#35 - the Covenants - Unreligious

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Unreligious Podcast,
and he spread the love of Jesus without judgment or
by laws, focusing solely on Jesus Christ and the Bible.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I am Chris and I am staycation.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Drew. You are a big staycation Drew.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh yeah, big Drew Sky. Now, yeah, I am on
my staycation. This week. It has been more like a workation,
if you want to call it that. Anybody that's ever had,
like tried to do anything with a five year old
and one year old understands it has not necessarily been smoothed.

(00:50):
But we're making it. But how have you been since
we recorded last I know you said you had a
headache today, but other than that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I had the typical migraine. Come on the dude. It
was one of those ones where you're starting to come
out of sleep. You know, you're waking up a little
bit in the morning and you kind of feel it.
You know it's there, so you just go back to sleep, hope,
and you're gonna wake up and it's not going to
be there. And when I finally got out of bed
and I'm like, I'm not gonna let this thing beat

(01:18):
me down. We got podcasts. Tonight, I got too much
to do. I think I was up twenty five minutes
and I ended up taking a migraine pill and going
and laying back in bed, and dude, I just I
hate it when that happens, Drew, because you know how
it is with the migraine, when you have one first
thing in the morning like that, by the time you've

(01:40):
gotten rid of it, the day is gone. Oh yeah,
you spent the whole day nursing this headache, so the
day is gone. I'm still at little foggy headed for
the medication I took, but that's a right, the headaches gone.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, that's like last time I got a real bad one,
you know, I was like I had to call in
or whatever, and you know if somebody had basically cracked
a joke about, oh, you know, me trying to lay
out or whatever, and I was like, dude, like that's
the thing that really is terrible about it, is like

(02:16):
I would love to just be casually laying out, but
it's like that's the worst is when you burn a
sick day but you're actually sick, like in bed all day,
you know, especially for me being at home when I'm
sick like that because it's like my you know, my
five year old's like, Dad, can you play? Can you
do this? It's like, oh, I wish, I wish I
could do anything other than just lay here and be miserable,

(02:39):
you know. But yeah, yeah, I get them pretty bad myself,
so I definitely understand.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I mean, other than that, yeah, it's it has been
cold here, Like this is brutal. Today the high was
like sixty three and the wind was blowing and it
was cloudy. I mean it was like almost more than Hoodie.
They're out there. We're in the middle of June. I
can't believe it. But yeah, it's it's been cool. But
we Yeah, we had a good week and I have

(03:07):
no complaints. We got some visit time with my sister
and my mom. Yeah. Also, uh go god, I got
invited to start joining a men's group on Saturday morning
from our tea. Yeah, they meet at the they meet

(03:28):
down here at the lake, dude. They meet at North Point,
right on the lake on the jetty and one of
the guys, the guy who leads it, actually cooks breakfast
for everybody. You just have to bring your coffee. But yeah, yeah,
I got it. Yeah, it's at six a m. Saturday morning.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I've actually thought about starting. So there's plenty of men's
stuff around, but there's times where we kind of hit
low and it's like, you know, like we've not done
the Sunday night round tables. I know you talk about those, law,
but we've not done the Sunday not around tables since
like I think we've had one since Thanksgiving. Now. I

(04:06):
was doing the Tuesday morning Bible studies. Those have wrapped up,
so I'm kind of into But I was actually thinking
about starting something just maybe at my dad's house or something,
because he's got three acres out there. Just bonfire and
you know whatever, keeping it simple or whatever. But but yeah, dude,
I finish your story about the men's thing, because I

(04:28):
was going to talk about I was actually gonna mention
that as one of my things that you know, happened
over the weekend or whatever.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, it was No, it was just really cool. A
really good friend of mine, Dan, who I haven't known
for fifteen years now, him and his wife, when Audrey
and I first started getting diving really into Crossroads and
we lived here last time Dan and his wife did
the small group or now they referred to his life group.

(04:55):
They did the small group, and it was mine and
Audrey's first small group. We ever, wind Ever and my
mom actually joined with us, and we got to know
these people so well. Do that over the past fifteen years,
even though we've been Tennessee, we've been in ports before,
we have stayed in touch with them the whole time.
And Dan is actually the one who reached out and
he's like, Hey, would you be interested in joining up

(05:18):
with the men's group on six o'clock Saturday mornings at
North Point for just basically talk and prayer and fellowship.
And I was like, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, dude, I mean that was what I was gonna say.
Was so the way that it worked out now, So
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(05:51):
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all that stuff. But this is actually Father's Day would
have just happened, So we're recording this ahead of time,
but Father's Day is coming up and it's about to happen,
or it should have just happened yesterday, but as we're
recording this, it's this weekend, so ahead of time, Happy

(06:15):
Father's Day to everybody, you know, which we'll talk about
that here in a second, but I don't want to
get I was trying to make notes of stuff I
was talking about there. But so the way it worked
out was this past week was the last week before
my staycation, and then my sister messaged me a couple
of weeks back. She had her last cancer treatment on Friday,

(06:37):
and she asked me if I could go. So I
was like, yeah, you know, let me ask and see
as like the only reason they might say no is
just because literally, like it's the week before my vacation,
so they might be kind of whatever. So I was like,
you know, but I asked off they gave it to me.
Worked out perfect. I went over there, I took some lunch,
and then I came back because she's gonna be ringing

(06:57):
the bell later. A funny story though. So now for
those of you if you listen to my testimony episode,
I talked about it at the end of my testimony episode,
so you know you should already know it. If you
listen to it if you didn't. I announced my officially
on social media. I announced my call to preach. I

(07:19):
accepted the call probably like a year ago, but I
finally announced it because I was wanting to try to
get some seminary classes and stuff done before I did it,
but it's just financially just can't make that work yet.
So I was like, dude, I'm just tired of doing it,
you know. So I announced it on Thursday after work

(07:39):
because I was gonna have Friday off and then a
full week, so I'm like, Okay, maybe it'll die down
a little bit. But you know, one of my mentors
gave me the best advice probably that I've ever had.
And normally on Fridays, I go in late, so I
try to sit down and basically prepare a sermon every
week as if I might have to preach anyway, which

(08:01):
helped me out tremendously on this podcast, just because now
that we're going through different subjects, I actually am going
back to my notes, but which, by the way, I
went to a men's thing. I'll get to that in
a story later. But one thing that this dude said,
so it was Jason McLoud, which have you ever seen
the movie Facing the Giants?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's the football movie that the Church did way back
in the day where the coach comes in and then
puts God at the center of his life and then
the football team starts winning and all this. Well, it
was a big time Christian movie back in the day.
But Jason McLeod is the guy that played Brock in
that movie, and he's actually the one that led it.
But one thing that he said that I thought was
really cool, and I've done this inadvertently, was he said

(08:47):
he buys a Bible for each season of his life.
So he's got his Bible that he carried through college.
He's got, you know, the Bible like that he had
when he first accepted the call to preach or whatever.
And I'm like, dude, it's so fun because like literally,
I have my high school Bible, which was like NLT
Navy Blue, and then I still have and then when

(09:08):
I went to college, I bought this like Apologetics. It
was like a youth apologetics Bible. And then I also
had at one point my King James NLT parallel and
then one of my favorite study bibles that I use
a lot is my CSB study Bible, and then that's

(09:30):
kind of the one that I use a lot of
the time. Well I did this before, he said that. Well, dude,
So Thursday, sorry, Friday, I went to drop my sister
lunch off. Well that I went to the Christian bookstore
and I was like, you know what, dude, I want
to get like a little pocket Bible, which is this
one that I bought, because I want to keep it
basically on me at all times because I'm like, okay, well,

(09:52):
with the preacher thing, you just never know somebody may
have an issue or something that they're dealing with or whatever,
and so I'm like, dude, I want to make sure
to have like a Bible on me at all times.
So I actually went over to Cedar Springs and I
stopped in because I was like, okay, I want to
get like a pocket Bible that I can keep in

(10:14):
just a pocket just on me at all times. Well, dude,
it was funny because I was over in the Bible
section when I was taking these bibles, these different Bibles,
and I was putting them in my back pocket, and
I'm like moving around walking around. I'm like a man
that's too heavy and I put it back, you know,
well I put one of the bibles in my back pocket. Well,
as I put it in my pocket, I kind of

(10:35):
stood there for a second and then I kind of
walked around. Well then I turned around and the dude
that was working there was like, hey, can I help you?
Like I think he thought I was maybe going to
try to steal a Bible or something, but I was like,
I was like, yeah, dude, I said, so, yeah, I'm
just trying to find a pocket sized bible that'll fit
like in my back pocket or my top overall pocket

(10:56):
that's not too heavy. And he's like, okay, you know,
he still is kind of like not one hundred percent sold.
But then I was like so and I pulled two
or three out. I said, I like this translation, but
it's a little thick. And so anyways, he helped me,
you know, navigate. But I bought this new King James
pocket Bible. But I thought that was hilarious because I

(11:17):
think he thought I was going to try to steal it.
But so anyways, went did the thing with the sister.
She rang the bell. That was awesome. Well then brother
Kings hit me up Thursday night after I made the
preacher announcement. He said, hey, dude, you know, don't forget.
You know, we got Anvil coming up. Which Anville was
a weekend retreat up at Sanctuary Hills and it was

(11:40):
one of those where you know, you're supposed to pay
money and like go stay all weekend or whatever. And
I just didn't have enough money to do all that,
and so he hit me up. He's like, man, if
you want to come out, we'd appreciated what And so
I ended up going, and you know, you're talking about
the men's thing, and dude, when I went, I was like, yeah, okay,
I'll go, you know. And then when I actually went,

(12:02):
they asked us, hey, we want you guys to think
about it, but like tell us your name, where you're from,
and why you're here, and just think about it and
we're going to go around and circle. And I was
sitting there thinking. I was just like, dude, man, like
why am I here? And they were like, what are
you trying to get out of this? I was like, dude,
I just literally want to rest and recharge my batteries

(12:23):
or whatever. And dude, I actually didn't realize how much
I needed it until I went. But I went Friday night,
and then I went back Saturday morning, and uh, you know,
as I was sitting there and these guys were talking
about their stories and I'm not going to share anything
that we shared out of confidence and stuff. But there
was some broken guys there man, that had some real

(12:44):
stuff going on and just different things. But it was
funny because, like I was like, dude, I'm just trying
to relax, you know, and rest and recharge and listen.
And I explained they've been trying to disciple those around
me that are willing to you know, that I can
be a light too and stuff. And I was like, dude,
I'm just in a season where I'm just exhausted. And

(13:06):
they wanted to do the forging thing where you know,
you've been the metal and all that. What's funny because
I was sitting there thinking, bro, I did this last time.
I'm really not trying to do this forging stuff. And
I'm like psycking myself up, like dude, you know, and
in my head it was like raining and I'm like, oh, dude,
please let it rain this out. And I'm like, well,
that's selfish of me because I don't want to take
these guys blessing, but I'm just like, so I started

(13:28):
packing myself up. I'm like, all right, dude, what shape
are you going to do? And you know, what's the
meaning and this and that? And as I'm walking down
the hill, I'm like, dude, I don't want to do this.
I don't want to do this. I'm so tired. I'm exhausted,
you know, because it was like ten o'clock at night
when I get down there, and they had even numbers
plus me, and so I'm like, holy crap, like and

(13:49):
in my head, I'm like, okay, well if I miscounted,
if somebody wants to forge, because you kind of need
somebody to hold it. I don't know if you've ever
done it, done it or tried it, but you kind
of have to have somebody hold it while you twisted
do all that. Well, then it was perfect because it
was like God was like, hey, dude, I know you're tired.
I know you want to rest, and so he kind
of hooked that up. So that was cool. But I

(14:10):
got to kind of refresh and recharge and do that,
and then that flew into the staycation. We went up
to the aquarium, which is awesome, man, you know, My
five year old loved it. My one year old loved it,
you know, cause she was just like whoa, you know,
that was cool. We went and checked out this place
called Roaring Fork, which was terrible idea because it's like

(14:31):
a motor trail. Well, dude, once we got on there,
it's one way in, one way out, and I'm like,
thankfully my new you know, my one year old was asleep,
but I'm like, dude, she wakes up, crime, it's gonna
be terrible because it took us like an hour to
get through it. But we went to the arcade, and
of course it was like twenty five dollars minimum, and
the guy's like, oh, if you do one hundred and

(14:52):
forty five, you'll triple all your tickets. I'm like, dude,
they are nothing in that case that I can't forty
five bucks. I'm like, dude, I could buy just about
anything with that, you know. But we did all that,
had a great time. That was fun, you know, and
it was just I don't know, it's just it's been
a really cool, relaxing week. We went to Trader Joe's,

(15:15):
which I've went that's like the first time I went
in forever, and let me just say something about Trader
Joe's all the Karens shop there. I'm just I'm just
if I'm offending some people, I'm sorry, but I'm a
pretty big guy and it's a little tight in there,
and I can't tell you how many like soccer moms
about running me over with their carts. But literally, as

(15:36):
I was in there, I was like, this is where
all the Karens are. This is it. I'm pretty sure
the meetings are held back, you know, but I just
got to spend some good time with family and stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
It was awesome And I kind of had a little
bit of a God moment there my last day there
Thursday or is it no, it might have been Wednesday.
There's a lady at work that you know, she kind
of I vent to her, she vinced to me or whatever,
but she was telling me that she was having some
real bad, terrible just this this family stuff. And I

(16:08):
didn't ask what it was, but and I think it's
a good you know me, and You've talked about this
before about a lot of times we think that sharing
the gospel is walking someone down the Roman road and
all this. But I think a lot of times it's
just sharing your story, but also just being there for
people and for those of you that know I had
I had quit tobacco all together, but I did go

(16:31):
back onto it, kind of relapsed, if you want to
call it that. I'm working my way back down. I've
been doing these zens, which is just nicotine. Now, there's
going to be some people that's going to say that
what I'm about to tell you is not very Christian.
But you know, she she also is trying to stop nicotine.
And so I was just talking to her, and I

(16:51):
was just listening and letting her talk, and she's just
talking about being frustrated at work and going through stuff
that she wouldn't wish on anybody and whatever. But she
was talking about how there's a couple of people at
work that was essentially not being sensitive to her issue
and causing problems and like not really micromanaging, but just

(17:12):
causing grief in the workplace and stuff. And she's like, man,
I could just you know, lay into them this night. Whatever.
And so I told her, I said, well, hey, I've
got some zins because she's trying to quit smoking. She's like,
I ain't trying to smoke, blah, blah blah, and I said, well,
I've got some zins and I had the three milligrams
and she's like that's not strong enough. Though Drew. I
was like, well, you can do two of them, and

(17:33):
she's like okay, okay. So I handed it to her
and she pulled a couple of zens out and I
walked off, and I was like, man, you know, I
just was like, she's going through it. In my head.
I'm like, okay, how can I spin this into like
a Jesus moment? And I try to every moment that
pops up, I try to spin it back around to Jesus,

(17:53):
you know. And so I had probably like, I don't know,
seven or eight of these left in the pouch, and
of course he's like six. But so I was like,
you know what, man, I'm gonna give her this whole thing.
But what I did was, and I remembered this verse
from our podcast. You remember about it basically being kind
to your enemies and that'll leave hot heaping coals on

(18:15):
their head. Well, I wrote Romans. I think it's Romans twelve.
I think it's right at the end of Romans twelve.
But I wrote those Bible verses on the back of it,
and I handed it to her. I said, hey, look,
you're having a way worse day to me. Just take this,
you know, enjoy it. Because she said she liked them
or whatever. I said, Now, if you'll flip that over,
I said, I wrote a Bible verse there for you.

(18:36):
I said, go read that. I think it's going to
help you, because I said, I know those people giving
you grief, but if you'll just kill them with kindness,
that'll leave hot heaping coals on their head. And then
the Lord says, vengeance is mine, let me take care
of it. And so she was like, man, I really
needed that, you know, and whatever. And so I'm not
telling that story just to try to like honestly, only

(19:00):
reason I'm talking about it is because I was gonna
mention her in my prayer request. But you know there's
some people that be like, well, this isn't Christian. You
should be handing people with nicotine. Look in that moment,
I genuinely feel like, not only did she need that nicotine,
but she needed those Bible verses. And so I didn't
even think twice about it. But again, I think there's

(19:21):
ways that we can be there for people. That's outside
of just the conventional like oh, let me pray for you,
let me do this, or you know whatever. So yeah,
you know, but dude, my week's been pretty jam packed
and then Father's Days coming up. So they they basically
announced that the church that they're gonna do an all
men's choir. So I'm gonna come out of retirement and

(19:43):
join the men's choir for that someday. So I'm kind
of looking forward to that. I I don't have a
clue what we're singing or nothing, but I'm just gonna
get there and do my thing. But I'm looking forward
to it. Man.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, I mean, I'm might show you something that's gonna
blow your mind. You were earlier talking about Bibles, you know,
and people carrying their Bibles around. How might tell you something?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, I see you looking. Oh wow. Yeah. I think
I may have even had one of those at one
point too. For those of you that's watching, it's the
old school with the Jesus painting on the outside, Like.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
This was my very first Bible ever.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Dude, that's so cool.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Nineteen seventy seven. That way, I got something that's gonna
make you very happy. I didn't even realize that I
never knew until I looked at it today. What version
is that?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
King James.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, yeah, So I just thought that's what I stepped
out of the room minute to go. I asked my wife,
I said, do you know where my my little like
kid Bible is? She goes think, I said, would you
grab it?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well. I just thought that was a cool idea because
he said, yeah, he's a pastor now, but he said
that in his office he's got all the Bibles, and
he's like, man, like, you know, he's like, I'm a
big fan of carrying a different Bible through a different season.
And I was like, dude, that's such a cool idea.
And then I got to thinking, I'm like I kind
of inadvertently did that, you know, But because he's like, man,

(21:17):
there's times where, you know, I'll be like trying to
get in the headspace of like a college aged person
and then he's like, I'll be like, oh, dude, where's
my Bible? And he said he'll go thumb through and
read some of the notes and whatever. But I was like, dude,
that's such cool ideas. Like when you pass into like
a new season, to get like a new Bible, and
I was like, dude, that's so cool. But yeah, this

(21:38):
this right, here's my everyday carry. Now it's it's you know,
pocket sized or whatever. But I'm traveling a lot ton.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
But all right, So I've got that Bible and then
I've got my big study Bible. This is the other
Bible I've owned other than my kid Bible, and I
got this one in twenty ten.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
So okay, yeah, I really like that CSB Study Bible
that I got. That's kind of my at home Bible,
which I had been taking it to church, but I've
considered just switching to this one and then taking my
notebook with me and traveling louder. But yeah, I just
thought that was a pretty cool idea, man, you know,
the different Bibles for the different seasons. And of course

(22:21):
I don't know if you see it, but I bought
the tabs and I got me some Camo tabs.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah, you know, but how to have the cam way
in East Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Man, So Father's Days coming up? I mean, you guys
got any plans for that or what do you guys
usually do for that?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Uh, it just depends. I'm not a big like, oh hey,
it's Father's Day. Everybody celebrate me. You know, I'm kind
of like, so, what are you doing for your husband? Yeah,
it's kind of you know, so I'm not sure yet.
My daughter might come up from Milwaukee. I'm not sure
what's going to happen yet, I kinda for me, it's

(22:59):
it's a well, it's Father's Day. I shouldn't have to
plan Father's Day, right right. I mean, not being mean
or anything. I just said, if y'all want to do something, great,
If you don't, that's okay too. I trust me. I
am perfectly fine sitting in my recliner reading my Bible
and chilling for the day or watching movies. I'm good.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I know that this episode is going to drop afterwards.
But I always make the joke for like Father's Day
or Christmas or whatever, for you know, buying stuff for
the man in your life, you know, to those that
that might be listening. But it's like, you know, I
always say, look socks and underwear. I know it's kind
of a crappy gift. But to be honest with you,

(23:40):
I mean, I don't know about you, but like I
don't necessarily if I don't get gifted, I'm just going
to roll the dice until I do get gifted some.
But you know, socks and underwear is good. And I
always tell the women folk if they ever ask me
my opinion, get your man AMMO. If he doesn't need AMMO,
then you don't have man. And I'm just kidding, but uh,

(24:02):
but I always say, am here's the thing. AMO ammunition
is the perfect gift. And ladies, if you're listening to this,
before you even ask, I don't know what kind of AMO,
because I don't know what kind of gun, doesn't matter.
Just go buy him some AMMO because here's the thing.
If he doesn't have a gun to fit the AMMO,

(24:23):
he knows it's used to get one. Babe.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
I so appreciate these thirty six runs. Now I gotta
go get one exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
So beef jerky and bullets never goes is never bad.
Coffee black Raffel coffee, I actually am am prone to
the Sanctuary Hills coffee, which is the co that's the
coffee at Sanctuary Hills in the real moment of ministry
that I've talked about a lot. But that's also the

(24:53):
coffee they use at church, which is phenomenal. But dude,
coffee is always good one, but coffee bullets and beef
jerky is is never bad. But yeah, we'll probably do
I mean, we'll go to church, I'll probably go over
my dad's house and we'll hang out over there and
just it's just family stuff. For me. I always enjoy it,

(25:15):
you know, especially like I always enjoyed it, just kind
of celebrating my dad. But now that I am a dad,
you know, the traditions that form and stuff. But normally,
you know, my oldest still do like a little handmade
card or something for me. If money's not too tight,
my wife will usually surprise me with a little small
gift or two or whatever. But I definitely appreciate it.

(25:38):
And to all the fathers out there, you're probably doing
better than you realize. But you know, it's it's hard, dude.
It's you know, like it's like me working all the time. Dude,
I'm trying my best to be as patient as I can.
But it's like, dude, you know, like right now I'm
so sleep deprived and being and stuff. It's hard. But

(26:02):
you know, really love on the fathers in your life
or if you know somebody that is a father, because
it's I don't know's it seems like it's rough out here.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
It is very rough out here. Yeah, to all the
dads out there, let me reiterate to all the dads
out there who are dads. Yeah, this is about you.
This is about the hard work you put in. This
is about supporting your family, raising your kids. Right, it's
all about you know, the dad and mothers have Mother's

(26:32):
Day and it's all about mom. So I think that
for me just getting you know, I've raised six kids now,
so getting those phone calls from every one of them
and watching them do life is for me that's rewarding enough.
You know, they're out for being productive members of society

(26:54):
doing life. Granted, there's a couple of lost sheep out
there that we need to go get, but we're working
on that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Well, and you have a very unique perspective because you know,
who knows what the future holds for me, but you know,
my family and stuff. But you know, especially now that
I announced the Preacher's kid that or the preacher thing,
you know, my wife didn't necessarily sign up for that.
So it's like she's now essentially a preacher's wife and

(27:24):
my kids are preacher's kids, which I was a preacher kid,
so I know what all that entails. But like, you know,
thankfully I got back into church early enough at you know,
and I don't ever plan on walking away from my
faith or the church or anything again. It's like, you know,

(27:46):
I don't want to jenix myself, but it's like I don't.
I think I'm so locked in now. I just I
can't imagine life without my faith. But it's like, thankfully
I got ahead of the curve on that one. But
I know, like you know, you said, you can kind
of did the flash and paan Christian thing for a while.
Now you're coming back, but your kids are kind of
grown and you know, and so you've kind of seen

(28:08):
both sides of it.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah. Absolutely. You know, it's funny you brought that up
because yesterday, you know, sometimes us men want me speaking.
I just need some time alone. I just need WUSAW time.
I just need to be with my thoughts and with
my God, nobody else around, no distractions. So yesterday I
took a drive down to Lake Michigan, and I parked

(28:32):
right out there in front of the lake, and I
just was looking at the lake and I was thinking,
you know, we think we have it hard and rough
as fathers, as dads who our kids. Can you imagine
our heavenly Father how he feels. I mean, I said,
I've got a couple of stray sheep out there that
we need to go get he's I mean, can you

(28:52):
imagine how tough it is on him? So I was
sitting there thinking, and I was thinking, you know, I
finally understand it. I understand the flash in the pan Christian.
And here's why. Because this is the first time ever
in my life that I have fully committed to Christ
and said I'd say it, I'm done no more flesh,

(29:13):
and I'm living my life for Christ, listen to my Testament.
And since I've been living for Christ, I told my
wife too, this walk is so hardy, it is so hard,
it's exhausting. So I can see where it would be
easy to get to a point where you're like, you
know what, this is too much for me. I'm out,

(29:36):
you know. And that's I think that's where these deconstructed
Christians come in, you know, And it's it's overwhelming. It's hard.
It is hard work because the reason it's hard work
is because it's constant work. It doesn't ever stop. You
don't get a day off, you don't get a break.
You are constantly having to seek out God because the

(30:00):
enemies right there to snatch you up and when you don't,
And so I was just I don't know, I was
just thinking about it yesterday, Drew, and I was thinking, how,
you know, this is worth every minute of it because
in the end, we get salvation, we get paradise, we
get to be with our God forever an you know,
for eternity. But the walk is so hard. I can
see why it's so easy to walk away. Yeah, and

(30:21):
you just have to do at those times. In the
previous podcast that we talked about keeping your fire lit,
that's part of it, that's part of not becoming a
flash of the pan. And that's why it's so difficult,
because you've got to feed that fire, you know, and
it's it's it's daunting. But just think about Happy Father's
Day to our our father in heaven, I mean, good grief.

(30:42):
He's the one who does it all for everything.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, very true, very very true. And like you said,
we don't a lot of times, we don't necessarily think
about the you know, our father in heaven on Father's Day.
But yeah, yeah, it's like you said, man, it's like
I just you know, at work in the real world,
you know, church men's group, just at the grocery store

(31:08):
or whatever. It's like, you know, you I try, you know,
to just focus on him and living right and doing
the right things and not as like you know, not
from like a being focused on works thing. But it's
just I try to constantly think about like my testimony

(31:28):
and stuff and my witness to others, and it's just like,
you know, it's like there's a spotlight on you at
all times, you know, not even talking about the preacher
side of thing, but just like just walking the Christian walk.
And it's like, Dude, by the time I get home,
I'm so exhausted. But then it's like, really, like we've

(31:49):
talked about the past, the most important thing is when
you get home and how you lead your family and stuff.
And dude, like it's it's it's difficult for me because
it's like, you know, for approximately you know, thirty two
ish thirty one ish years of my life, well maybe

(32:12):
not so much. You know, I probably walked away when
I was somewhere around twenty one twenty two, So really
for like ten years of my life, I'd basically put
my faith on the back burner, and then I had
started building this family, and so it's it's I'm in
a weird spot where I don't know if this makes
sense to you or the listeners, but it's like, when

(32:34):
I'm not at home, I feel more like myself, like
the I don't want to say, the person I'm trying
to be, but it's like the Drew Ski that God
is working through. When I'm outside, I feel more like myself,
and then when I come home, it's like I fight

(32:55):
this like the Drew that I used to be and
that my family's used to me being, and like the
new need that is forming, if that makes sense, And
it's it's really difficult just just to balance that because
there's times where you know, like your family knows you

(33:16):
the most, so it's like you know and I know
that they see the change, but it's it's hard to
balance that.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
By the way, just I just want to tell you
real quick, I am so proud of you. I don't
care what anybody else says. I don't care about negative comments.
I don't care about criticism. Drew, You're answering a calling,
and it is a big, big burden what you're about
to take on. It's granted, it's rewarding. You get to

(33:46):
see so many lives transformed and changed. But just doing
this podcast has given me a whole new appreciation for pastors.
Putting together sermons every single week and delivery. It is
not easy to do. So I just want you to know, dude,
I am. I'm so proud of you, and you're doing
it at an age where you're going to have an
amazing career in front of you through I'm I'm too

(34:06):
old for that now. I'm you know, pushing sixty. That's
beyond me. All I can do is podcasts and street
preach maybe I guess, but no, Yeah, I just want
you to know I'm proud of you do that. That
That is not something that I know you took lightly,
and I know that's something that you had on your
mind for a very long time. So the fact that
the fact that you have have committed to it, I'm

(34:27):
proud of you.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, dude, I appreciate that. Yeah. I mean I really
strongly wrestled with it for well, I mean it started
in hospital and I ran from it. But then when
I started going back to church, I mean, I wrestled
with it for probably six or eight months before I
accepted it, and then I spent a year working on
being you know, a bove reproach and mentally rapping around

(34:51):
it and whatever. And then you know, once I decided it,
I was like, Okay, I just want to be normal,
just for like a month or two, just a few months,
just enjoy that last little bit of normalcy. But you know,
when Phil Robertson passed away and I started watching all
these clips and he was super unashamed and he was
a master of like preaching the simplest form of the

(35:15):
Gospel in a profound way. And you know, literally the
podcast that they started is Unashamed, which fit him to tea.
But once he passed away, and then I knew I
had this week coming up, it just I was I
just felt it in my spirit. I was like, you know,
it's the right time to announce it, but but I
definitely appreciate it. And you know, that's one of my

(35:36):
prayer requests. I was kind of starting a little list here,
but just my journey ahead to one of my prayer requests.
But I guess that's good segue in. And I also
appreciate it to your wife even commented on my post
and was like, we're so proud of you, and I
was like, dude, it's which The response seems to be
overall positive. Now. Granted, I know there's some people in

(35:59):
my life that there's no telling what they're saying behind
closed doors.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
But you know, but that's doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
It doesn't it doesn't matter, like you said, it doesn't.
But there's just there's people in your life that they
want to hold on to the snapshot of like who
you were when they liked you missed, and they don't
necessarily want to acknowledge the transformation, which is hard. But

(36:26):
now I do have your house Portugal in future house
in here. Is there any other prayer quest you have
that you.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Want to uh? The only other prayer request I would
ask for right now is that that the Lord put
the right people in the family members that are lost
sheep right now to bring them back, because that's how
it's going to have to happen. We all know there
are people you might be able to reach. There are

(36:54):
people you can reach, there people you can talk to
about God. There are people you cannot, especially if you're family.
They don't want want to hear it from you, because
they've been hearing it for years. So we're out of
point with these lost sheep. They don't want to hear
it from us anymore. So God's gonna have to intervene
divine intervention and put somebody in their life to influence
that choice.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, the lost sheep need to be brought back, brought back.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, it's in my other Bible. I need to I'll
take a picture of it and send it to you
or see if I can find a link to it.
But the pastor, my pastor Jeff, not your pastor Jeff,
My pastor Jeff last Father's Day did a really good
sermon on the prodigal son, and he actually shared this

(37:40):
laminated thing called the Prodigal's Prayer, And so I'll i'll
get that to you, and if I can remember, I'll
put a I'll try to put a link to it
in the notes as well. Let me I'm trying to
put real quick prodigals prayer. But that's something that I

(38:08):
think will help, because, like you said, at the end
of the day, that's all you can do is pray. Yeah,
all right, Well, I'll go ahead and pray us up.
Me and Chris got a little long winded on the intro,
but it's been a minute since we talked, and you know,
we tried to just let God lead man, and you know,
it's and I had an eventful week, he had an
eventful week. But you know, so I'll I'll go ahead

(38:29):
and pray us up. And then Chris is going to
dive into the Covenant, which is a heavier topic, but
we'll team that up here in a second. So ye,
dear God, we just thank you for another night that
me and Chris can get together. I know that, you
know there's times where if me and Chris are being honest,
there's times where you know, we're looking at that clock, like, man, dude,

(38:52):
I just don't know if I can muster up the
strength and the energy to just to get through these
pot cast episodes, because, to be honest with you, they're
more daunting than people realize, and they take a lot
out of us emotionally, physically, you know, and just mentally.
It's just it's it's it's a lot. But we just

(39:14):
pray that we get through the serious topic tonight. I
know Chris has studied heavily for this and so, and
we want to make sure that we we honor Rasel.
You know, she's the one that asks that we cover this,
and so we want to make sure that we honor
her through this as well. God, I just pray for
the journey that I have ahead. You know, now that

(39:35):
I've publicly announced this, I've seen behind closed doors, I've
seen how this affected my father, this calling, and as
you well know, I literally begged you for any any
other calling besides this. I didn't ask for it, but
I felt led to do it. And so it's gonna
be a rough journey ahead. I mean, I'm literally just

(39:57):
gonna be under the spotlight essentially for the rest of
my life, and my family is going to be under
the spotlight, and so that's going to be It's just
a heavy, heavy burden to carry. And also just you know,
just the fact that you have essentially people's blood on
your hands, and so I just pray that you keep

(40:17):
your hand over me through this next season in the future,
head whatever roads that leads me down. I just pray
that you give me the strength and keep me humble
and keep me focused on you, and that I can
answer the call that you put on my life. God,
I want to pray for the lady that I work
with in her family situation. I don't know what's going

(40:38):
on there, but I just pray that you can help
me be a light, speak peace into her life, and
be there for her and anybody else around me that
might need a little bit of your grace, your mercy,
and your light. I'm sure that the grape vine has
probably been thumthing this week, so I'm sure when I
get back, everybody's going to know about my announcement, and

(40:59):
just get me prepared and ready for that because there
might be other prodigals that do come. I want to
pray for Chris's house in Portugal, that you divinely orchestrate
that the right people can get that house. It can
be the right fit, the perfect fit. And I pray
that the spiritual anointing that Chris and his wife left
behind could touch not only that family but future generations

(41:23):
to come. And also I pray that you'll just open
some doors and give a clear path on what they
need to do next during the season and their future house,
and that you can lead them to a house that
not only that they can find comfort and solace in,
but it can actually be a house of ministry for
you that they can use for your will. God. I

(41:45):
want to pray for specifically Chris's family, the Lost Sheep.
We're not going to name them by name on here,
but you know who they are. I pray that you
work and you water and grow the seeds that they've planted,
and you orchestrate other people into their lives that can
preach the gospel and minister to them as well. But
we also want to pray for the other prodigles in

(42:06):
the Lost Sheep that might be listening to this, or
that might be attached to the people that's listening to this. God.
You know, you were very clear about leaving the ninety
nine to go after the one, and your heart is
heavy for that one, those prodigles that have just lost
their way or don't want to have anything to do
with you. And I just pray that if anybody's listening

(42:27):
to this and they have a prodigle in their life,
they can reach out. You can touch their life as well.
But just keep your hand over Chris's family. He's doing
everything he can him and his wife to just live
a life for you and let their marriage be in ministry.
And I just pray that you give them the words
or orchestrate situations to where they can continue to be

(42:49):
light through their actions and minister to those around them.
That's the lost sheep. But we want to pray that
you keep your hand over them during this time and
just allow doors to be open there. And then we
want to pray that we can just get through this
podcast tonight and show you honor glory and tackle this
difficult topic and that those that's listening can be ministered to.

(43:14):
And it's in you have the name, we pray. Amen.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Amen, Thank you brother.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
So I believe I got that right. This was Risel's question. Correct.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I'm sorry, I have my headset off.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
What this was Risel's question? Correct?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, this was rizil ye.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Okay, which, like I said, we got a little long winded.
We got like fifteen ish minutes. So obviously we're gonna
able to finish this tonight, to be honest with you,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
We're just gonna wed in a whistle a little bit.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, me and Chris are pretty we're pretty beat down
coming in this episode anyways, So I think we needed
a little bit of that that recharging there at the beginning.
But uh so I'm gonna let Chris decided to tackle
this topic in honor of Rozel, so I'm gonna let
him take off with it. But we are talking about

(44:06):
the covenants tonight. The covenants. This was within the Bible,
and it's a serious thing. And to be honest with you,
I much like probably you and most people that's listening
to this, this is not really something that I've really
ever tackled and like studied. Specifically. I know about them,
but I don't really know a lot of the specifics

(44:26):
and the things behind them. And so thankfully you're the
one that did all the research.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
And I just want to say right off, Okay, first thing,
when I prepare for these podcasts and I've got my
notes in front of me, and Drew and I we
coordinate with each other. We look at each other's notes
and hey did you remember this? Oh? Hey, what about that.
I can honestly say this is probably the first podcast
where I was a little bit sick to my stomach
coming into it. I'm nervous because this is a heavy topic.

(44:57):
And Roselle, thanks for putting me on the spot here,
but this is for you. Okay, We're going to break
down covenant the best way we can. And anybody who's listening,
remember we're not theologians, we're not scholar, we haven't been
through classes on covenant. Everything you're going to hear tonight

(45:18):
is exactly what Drew and I have dug up in
our bibles or found wherever we could find on covenant.
So I pray that I do this justice and I
pray that y'all get something out of it. So the
things we're going to discuss tonight are going to be
the definition of a covenant, the biblical meaning of covenant,

(45:39):
a covenant versus a contract. Marriage is a covenant, covenant
versus promise, the old covenant and the new covenant, and
why we need a new covenant. So we're going to
get started with what is Webster's definition of covenant? A

(46:00):
mutual consent or agreement of two or more persons to
do or to forbear some act or thing, a contract,
a stipulation. Okay, so that is the Webster's definition. So
the biblical meaning is an agreement between God and his
people in which God makes promises to his people and

(46:22):
usually requires certain conduct from them. Okay, any any thoughts
on that? Drew In the opening, I.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Mean, so far, I think you nailed it, you know,
on the especially on the the one thing that I
guess I would highlight and I'm a highlight and on
the notes here. But it's a mutual consent or agreement,
is the definition. But like you said, the biblical meaning
of it, you know, it oftentimes requires certain conduct from them.

(46:54):
So I'm I'm looking forward to how you're going to
break all these down and stuff. But I think you're
now and I think you're laying the groundwork, you know,
and I like, even going to the notes above, I
think the definition of the covenant, of the biblical meaning,
but then also the difference between covenant and contract, because

(47:15):
I did just some studying on my own as well,
and to be honest with you, I don't even think
I fully understood, Like you know, hey, it's it's more
of an agreement than it is Okay, this is what
you're gonna do or else. It's like both parties have
to hold their side of it. But yeah, the way
you've laid this down so far has been perfect. So
this is a difficult topic and I feel like you're

(47:37):
you're keeping it on a third grade level, which is
where I need to be well.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
I studied it on a third grade level though, But yeah,
it's so. The reason this is so unfamiliar for us
and something you've never studied, something I've never studied, is
because in today's world, you don't hear that work. You
don't hear covenant unless you're going to church. Like I

(48:01):
know Baptists talk a lot about covenants, but you don't
hear that word in society don't. So when Rizzelle's like, hey,
I'd like to hear you guys, just something on covenant,
I'm like, what, okay?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Well, And to be honest with you, there's a lot
of people it's like, oh, that's just old Testament stuff,
it doesn't matter. And to be honest with you, when
Jesus came, he basically said, you know, I didn't come
to a boss law. I came to fulfill it. You know. Now,
granted there there was a new covenant that came about it,
but you know, I think it's this is one of

(48:34):
those things where it's really good to know as a
part of your foundation of your Christian walk, And to
be honest with you immediately, I'm like everybody else, this
is something that I kind of just brushed over because
it's like, hey, you know, that's kind of dry. Let's
get into all that, you know, forgiveness and love and
whatever stuff. But most people just brush over it because

(48:56):
they're like, it doesn't matter. You know, that's all old testaments.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Right now, old covenants. We don't even talk about covenants anymore. Yeah,
So let's take a look at covenant versus contract. Okay, okay,
So a contract is a rather modern legal construct. It
is a legally binding agreement to do or not do something,
and it often includes penalties for breach of contract. Okay,

(49:22):
So let's look at covenant a covenant, and you look
at highlight that word as an ancient construct wherein two
parties promised to do something or not to do something.
Because of the fallen nature of humanity, the covenant may
include penalties for breaking the covenant, but unlike a contract,

(49:43):
it is considered immoral to break a covenant. It is
a betrayal of trust. There is never a sense in
which it is morally upright for a person to break
a covenant, even if the covenant breaker is willing to
pay the penalties. Think about that. That's why you don't
hear that word anymore, brother, because it is it's a

(50:04):
moral obligation. Like you go into a contract, right, you
go and you buy a car, and you sign your
contract that you're going to pay for this car. Right,
how easy is it to just not pay for it?
Let them come take it, and you know, insight it
such la, I don't have a car. But are you
upset that you don't have a car? Are you upset
that you broke your contract? It's not upset because you

(50:26):
broke your contract. Right, So when you make a covenant
with somebody, that word right there will shake people to
their core. Hey, listen through I don't want to make
a deal with you that every Tuesday night, Thursday night,
maybe we're going to do podcasts. I want a covenant
with you now come Tuesday night. You were talking earlier about, Yeah,

(50:52):
you know, we're bushed, we're feed it's we kind of
just uh, it's hard to get on here. Well, if
this was a covenant between us and between God, would
probably be a lot more excited about trying to get
in here because we don't want to break that. So
it's really any thoughts on covenant versus contract?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
No, I mean, I think, like you said, you've teed
it up more. I think you've teed it up perfect
because it's like, you know, a covenant is something I
think there's a more personal like element to it, like
you said where it's like, you know, going back up
here where you said, it's a betrayal of trust and
it's considered immoral to break a covenant. A contract's just

(51:35):
like Okay, I'm going to do this, you're gonna do this, whatever.
But a covenant it adds like almost like a sacred
layer to it.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
You know, it's there's a moral principle there, there's a
moral obligation there, like I don't want to break my covenant,
and that I think honestly, like I said the couple
of minutes ago, is why you don't see that word
in today's society because it actually means something and people
feel obligated to follow through of covenants. So yeah, it's bizarre.

(52:02):
So this so this is why marriage threw should be
viewed as a covenant, not a contract. It is a
covenant between two people with God and the community as witnesses. Unfortunately,
in this day and age, it has become more, it
has become a contract more than a covenant. With all
the free numptial agreements, custody of kids, splitting up assets.

(52:25):
You know, it's a shame because when we back in
biblical days, when you got married, that was a big,
huge thing. That was a covenant between you two and God.
And that's not something that you wanted to break. Covenant.
Marriage was meant to be a covenant from the beginning.
And we as human beings, have taken the covenant out

(52:46):
of it and put contract in so it's easier to
get out of and we don't feel morally obligated. This.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah? I agree. I mean, like you said, you know,
back in the day, uh, even when you become engaged,
I forgot what the word is now, but betrothed was
like it was a higher form of like a legally
binding contract. Like once you've become betrothed, you essentially were

(53:12):
like pre married at that point, you know. And so
we've lost a lot of that sacredness now, but you
get people that just marry for a joke or a
prank or you know whatever. Citizenship lost that. Yeah, we've
lost the sacredness of that bond, that covenant.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah, and that's a shame. And then you look around
at the divorce rate today, and you wonder what well
you're You're not in a covenant with that person for
life anymore, and then after life, now it's just a
contract that we're both tired of it. We'll just sign
a new contract, say we can go our own way.
And it's taken so much depth out of marriage, and

(53:51):
it's allows people to get married out of lust instead
of love. Allows people to get married just because they
want to be married, not because they necessarily are attached
to that person. You start marrying people with that word
covenant in it, and they might start taking marriage a
little more serious if they know the Bible and they
know what covenant means. So that's where I was at.
That's where I was at. So now that we have

(54:14):
gone over covenant versus contract, why don't we discussed what
our thoughts were on that. So now let's look at
covenant versus promise. So promise covenants are supposed to be
two sided promises. That is, all parties involved in a
covenant are supposed to keep up their end of the promise.

(54:35):
A promise is one sided, that is, one person makes
themselves responsible to carry out a duty. But here's the kicker.
In scripture, covenants and promises are one sided. The one
notable exception to this is the old Covenant between God
and Israel when the Law was given at Mount Sayna.

(54:56):
Are you confused yet.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
A little bit?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Well, here's the kicker. We're not going to do a
complete hour tonight, I don't think, brother, because I'm gonna
leave it right there because if you come back and
listen next week, I'll explain it to you. And here's
what we're gonna explain. We're gonna start explaining the different
covenants that have happened since the dawn of time, since Adam.
We're gonna break down every single one of these covenants

(55:22):
that have come across between humans and God, and we're
going to take a look at those and we're gonna
start next week with the academic or I'm sorry, adamant
adamic so hard to say Adam. Yeah. So we're gonna

(55:46):
leave it there. I know you guys, this is really
short on covenant, but like Drew said, we both really exhausted.
I promised Rasella that we would get to this. So
I'm just giving you guys the teaser so we know
what it looks like. A covenant versus a contract, a
covenant versus a promise, Promises made, promises broke. How often
have you heard that? You hear it every day on

(56:07):
the news right now with the President. Promises made, promises broke.
That's the big headline, you know, And and that's because
promises are easy to break. What's the biggest outcome? If
I promise you drew that tomorrow we're going to do
another podcast tomorrow night at this time, and you're like, cool, dude,
let's roll, and then I just don't show up. I

(56:29):
just blow it off. I broke my promise. What does
that do to me? Oh dude, sorry, I broke the promise. Yeah, man,
I just I got tired, fell asleep with Now if
I have a covenant with you, I'm going to be
on here. Promises are so easily broken me personally, you
can tell me how you feel me personally, I do
not use that word I promise unless I know I

(56:51):
can follow through with it, Because to me, promises are important,
but to a lot of people they're not.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Oh, you definitely can't promise your kids if you're not
going to fall through with it.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
They will not like the Oh dude, that's the worst thing.
Side note, here we go. Side note. Got to say it, dude,
I think that is the worst thing with parenting, not
following through. We and I did it. I'm so guilty
of it. With six kids, you make these big, huge, massive,
gnarly punishments. Oh, I'm gonna ground you from your phone

(57:20):
for two weeks if you do that again. And they
do it and you take that phone away from them,
and then like four days later, they're driving you so crazy.
You just hand it back to them, and now they
know you've already learned right there that that doesn't mean anything.
So sticking sticking to your stuff, yeah, is very important,
especially raising kids, because if you stick to your guns,

(57:40):
they're gonna know mom and Dad aren't messing around.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Oh yeah, I mean, like you said, it's like you
got to You've got to stick to your guns. And
the other thing I've had to learn h is if
it's not really an option, don't make it one. If
you basically say, do we need to leave right now?
And they say yeah, I want to leave, You're like, okay,
well we're not going.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
To leave right Well, they we're gonna stay, aren't it.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yeah, don't make it an option. If it's not really
an option. By the way, don't freak out. I went ahead.
I made a coffee for next week. I'm gonna email
that to you. I don't want you to look down it, like,
where's my notes?

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Oh yeah, dude, that's what I do everything. Dude. You
know me. I'm learning technology. I'm not there yet, but
I'm learning. So tonight I picked up my laptop and
every time I flipped my laptop open, my notes or
my Google Docs are right there on the front screen
man for me to start going into. I opened it
tonight and there was nothing, just the screensaver. And I

(58:42):
looked at my wife and I was like, where my
notes go? Oh this is not a good night to
lose my notes. This is like serious covenant?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Is this well? And the thing too, is like with
Google Docs. It's like, dude, if you lose and we
both love.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
She's like, man, babe, do you have your Internet browser up.
I'm like, no, it doesn't look like it. She goes,
click on your internet for your Google I clicked on it.
There's my note. She goes there he comes.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
You're like, oh my gosh, what to do?

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah, this is something. Oh dude, look honestly, y'all, this
is this is all Covenant that I have been studying. Yeah,
it's I've got all my notes right here just in
case we have technical issues, but we don't. But Rizel,
I love you, I love Ernest. I hope you all

(59:34):
are doing good on the island. We're praying for you
every day. I hope that you get into this. At
least we got to. We got to crack open the
book right and look a little bit into Covenant. But
I promise next week we're going to spend a little
less time talking and we're going to really get into
these different well I say that, I'm not promising that.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Okay, we're not going to make a Covenant just yet, right,
but we are, Razell.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
We're gonna work and I hope that I hope this
helps you. I hope it explains or you get out
of it when I get out of it. And I
just at the end of this series, I think that
I'm going to have a whole new outlook on the
covenants that God made with his people due because they

(01:00:19):
were they were major and you're going to see that.
But you got to stick around.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Yeah, Well, what Chris said, we are out of time
this week. Again, if you guys have any questions, feel free.
This comment came in from Facebook, I believe. Yeah, this
comment came in on a Facebook post, So feel free
to comment on our socials. If you watch this video

(01:00:45):
later or any of our videos, feel free to comment
and we'll pull them back up. But you can also
email us at the Unreligious Podcast at gmail dot com.
That's another easy way to do it. Let me pull
that up to but yeah, feel free the email Wills
at the Unreligious Podcast at gmail dot com. And it

(01:01:07):
just might make it into an episode, or we might
make a whole episode out of it. But that's all
that me and Chris have tonight. We're gonna crack this
open again next week and dive deeper into it. But
this is the Unreligious Podcast. I am Staycation Drew.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
And I am It's Chris, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
We're gonna roll on out of here. Y'all have a
good one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
See you next time, See you next time.

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