#37 Covenants pt 3

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Unreligious Podcast,
where we spread the love of Jesus without bylaws or judgment,
focusing solely on Jesus Christ and the Bible.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I am Chris God, I'm Big Drew. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
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(00:44):
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(01:04):
t Spring thing. Dude. I'm like, I ordered something that
I've used Tea Spring in the past, no problem, no
issues whatsoever, and for whatever reason, I mean, I ordered
a couple of things on April fifteenth, they never came.
I'm currently trying to get a refund. Not sure what's

(01:24):
going on there. It's been a nightmare, so I don't know.
If I can get Tea Spring figured out, we'll bring
that back for you guys. But in the meantime, we're
going to kind of go back to the drawing board
on that because I've literally never had issues to tea
spring and for whatever reason, all of a sudden, I have,
So back to the drawing board on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Back to the drawing board for the apparel.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, we're gonna have to We'll figure something out on
that one. But other than that, how was your week dude?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Like I was telling you before we signed in here,
I could probably do a whole episode on my weekend.
It was absolutely incredible. My Friday was my birthday, and
my oldest daughter came up with the grandkids and her
fiance and we hung out, had a great time. And

(02:18):
then Saturday morning, I got up and I went to
the men's group at six am on the lake and
it was it was amazing. It was absolutely amazing. Yeah,
I went down there and this guy has got They
have these like concrete jetties that run from the beach

(02:41):
out into the water, and so if you get down
close enough to the water you can actually sit. It's
almost like a table. And he had a Coleman stove
set up and he was frying up veggies, potatoes, bacon
in this in this walk like pot and the other
guys showed up. There was five of us total, and

(03:05):
we had breakfast. I got to tell you, that's the
first time I have ever experienced a men's group. I've
always said I was going to go, but I never
went a highly actual men's group. I highly highly recommend it.
There's something about when you get a group of men

(03:26):
together that barely know each other and instantly feel comfortable
enough to be vulnerable. And that's what it was. And
it was really cool because at the end of it,
we all stood around in a circle and do we
just took turns praying for each other, like just hey,

(03:49):
you got anything going on you need prayers about? And
then everybody said what they need to prayers about. It
was like one guy took the lead started praying for
one of the other guys. Then as soon as he quit,
guy picked up and started praying for one of the
other guys. Then I picked up, and it was like
just five dudes just standing there praying for each other
and it was just dude, it was amazing. And then

(04:10):
I came home and my wife and I took a
walk and we went fishing. Didn't catch anything, but that's
why they call it fishing, right, But yeah, we went fishing.
And then Sunday we got up and went to church
and Pastor Jeff My Jeff dude, he delivered a sermon

(04:38):
that I something I've been struggling with quite a bit,
and it just I'm not going to get into it
right now, but it hit home for me.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I felt so good walking out of church on Sunday.
And then my wife and I are back here at
home and I'm hanging a curtain rod in the living room.
My wife bought new curtains and curtain rods, so I'm
hanging a curtain rod and I look out the front
door and some old guy pulls up on a motorcycle,

(05:07):
like an enduro type bike, and I'm like, babe, there's
somebody here on a motorcycle. She's like, well, I don't
know anybody on a motorcycle. I said, well, neither do I.
So she comes over to the door and she goes
out and this guy, he's got gray hair, wild gray hair,

(05:27):
this gray mustache that comes you know, that the handlebar mustache.
And I'm like, how is this guy? So he's asking
for my wife's grandma, and this is our house, and
come to find out his parents owned the house next door,
and he grew up with my wife's aunts and uncles
and mom. And so we're talking to him, and all

(05:51):
of a sudden, you know, I've got a tattoo of
a cross on my left shoulder and I was wearing
a taint top, and all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
This guy goes, yeah, religion ruined my life. And he
reaches over and he smacks my pros on my arm
and I'm like, WHOA getting a little bit, you know,
in my area here. And so he keeps talking about
how religion's ruined.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
His life, and I'm like, how did I mean? I
believe it religion ruins a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, religion, it ruins a lot of things, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, it does. So so he's going on about how
his mom made him sit in the front yard here
next door at two point thirty every afternoon so she
could cram Bible Versus down his throat. And I was like, well,
I mean, I don't think that ruins your life, you know,

(06:52):
I really don't. And then so my wife is like, well, yeah,
my husband does a podcast. It's called the Unreligious Podcast.
And this guy pipe, oh, oh really really, so what's
that all about? And I said, well, me and a
buddy of mine got together. We decided that there was

(07:13):
too many laws, by laws, criticism, a lot of stuff
in denominational religion. So what we do is we attend
denominational churches. And that's fine, it all, it's good, okay.
But what we do is when we talk about on
the podcast, we just talk about what Jesus taught right,
what did Jesus leave us here to do? What's our

(07:33):
great And this guy starts like get really like into it,
and he's like really and I'm like, yeah, man, it's
just you know, Jesus spread love. If you come up
and punch me in the face, I'm not supposed to
punch you back. I'm supposed to let you hit the
other side. And he goes, oh, I like you guys,
I said you want to come in? He's like, yeah,
I'll come in. So he comes in and sits down

(07:55):
on the couch and dude, we just talked gianity for
like an hour with this guy. We don't even know him,
and we talked like an hour and out of the blue,
this guy looks at me and he goes, do you
think my mom was evil. And I'm like, uh, I

(08:21):
don't know your mom and I don't know you, but
why would you think she's evil? And he goes, because
the way she treated me, you know, And I said,
I don't think your mom was evil. I think your
mom was doing what she thought was right in her heart.

(08:43):
Whether it was the right thing to do or not,
she felt it was right. Moms don't typically hurt their
children intentionally. That's evil, and I don't think she was
hurting you intentionally. Now, maybe she was driven by the
wrong motivation, or maybe she should have been a little

(09:03):
bit more supporting of what you wanted to do instead
of constantly making you go to church and do things
you didn't want to. But no, I honestly don't think
your mom was evil. And he stopped and he looked
at me. He drew and he goes, man, I never
looked at it that way before. Maybe she's not. I

(09:23):
was like, yes. So then this guy, he's getting ready
to leave, and he turns around. He says, you know,
one of the biggest problems I have is if Jesus
was God in the flesh, how come Jesus didn't roll
the stone back himself? In his tomb, and my wife

(09:49):
jumps up. She goes, we don't know who rolled the
stone away, and he goes what I'm like, yeah, dude,
it doesn't say who rolled the stone away. It says
that the women showed up to take care of the
outside of the tomb or whatever, and the stone was
already rolled away. One version is there was an angel

(10:12):
sitting on the stone that told the women, don't be afraid.
The one you're looking for is no longer here. He's risen.
The other is they went in and there was two
angels inside the tomb that told them pretty much the
same thing I said. But nowhere in scripture does it
say who rolled the stone back. The angels Jesus himself, God,
we don't know. And he goes, really, I never knew that.

(10:37):
I always thought that somebody else did. I said, it
could have been Jesus. We don't know, and he goes, man,
I've got to get my Bible out and start reading more,
because i think I'm misunderstanding some things. I said, that's
a great idea. So, dude, I mean, it was just
like God just puts people in your life at the

(10:58):
right moment, you know. And this guy was Uh. I
think he just he walked down here, Drew, and he said,
you know, my angels tolnical in his eye. My angels
told me I needed to pull in this driveway today,
and I could have as he was leaving duty, says,
I could have never guessed that my day was going

(11:19):
to turn out as amazing as it did. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, that's awesome, dude. You know, I guess like as
you were telling that story, you know, like, of course
there's a lot to unpack. We've just about to a
whole episode on that alone, but like that's what I'm saying,
Like I think that's the point though, you know, we've

(11:45):
talked about it before, which you know, hey, if you're
listening to this, buddy, chance, like, dude, that's awesome. But
you know we talked about that before. Is like you
know a lot of times we think that like you know,
which I mean, I've you know, I've got it just
in case. This is you know, I've got my pocket

(12:05):
Bible now, you know, and this is the one I
keep in my back pocket at all times. Now, but
you know, I've got you know, the Roman Road in
there just in case. But like a lot of times
we think that like you know, witnessing or like leading
people to Jesus is like you got to know all

(12:27):
the scriptures. You got to know all this and and like,
don't get me wrong, like we should know all the scriptures.
But you know, a lot of times it's just sharing
your story and like what God's done for you and
and you know that that the transformation into before and after,
it's just sharing your story. I agree with you. I

(12:49):
don't think just off of the facts that we have,
I don't think his mom was evil. I think his
mom meant well. I think she did what she thought
the best you know, thing was. But you know, I
think we've talked about it on here, but I know,
like we've talked about it in my men's group, which
I agree with you, whether you're a woman, man, either way,

(13:13):
find a group because like we go to a young
married couple's group. That's awesome and it's it's helped us
out in so many different ways. But like when I
go to men's group, men can speak to men in
such a way that women can't. And likewise, I've told
my wife this, it's like, look, we're best friends. I

(13:34):
love you. You're part of me like all that. But
like when you go to women's group, they can talk
to you about things that I can't necessarily relate to.
They can put it in ways that I can't. They
can relate to you in ways and they're going through
things that I just don't go through. And so I
do think that that's pivotally important. But like I think,

(14:02):
like back in the day, there just wasn't as much
knowledge as there is now. Like, yeah, if you had
money to go buy commentaries and Bible dictionaries and encyclopedia,
you know whatever concordinances, Yeah, like you you know, you
you could get knowledge, but it's not like it is
today where you know, I mean literally there's you can
go online and basically for free you can pull up

(14:26):
the Bible, click a few buttons and pull up the
Greek and the Meat and there's just so much more
information that's available. And I think, you know, I grew
up you know, in a lot of like backwoods Baptist
churches and it's like, well, you know, you know, you
ask a question and they're like, well, just don't doubt
your faith. It's like, well, I'm not doubting it, but

(14:46):
I'm just like trying to learn more, and you know,
like a lot of times they just didn't have answers
and they meant well, but you know, we don't have
youtubes where you can sit and listen to doctors and
we're just in you know whatever, preachers all this stuff
like we just didn't have. You know, you go on YouTube,
there's thousands and thousands of churches that you can sit

(15:08):
and just watch stream after stream extreme and it's just
I think, you know, I think she did the best
she could. But I've learned. And again, my oldest daughter
is only she's about to be sick, so it's like
I'm still learning every day. But the biggest thing that
I've learned is like they you can tell them, you

(15:30):
can teach them, you can do all that stuff. You
can drag them the church, but they have to see you,
Like they have to see your relationship with God. That's
the only way. It's not you can take them to church.
You can do all that stuff. You can take them
to a wannas and vacation, Bible school and all those things.

(15:51):
Church camps. My my church is at their youth camp
right now. You can do all that, but like if
they come home and they don't see it, then, I
mean there's there's really like it's all for nothing. And
so I think how you live is going to minister
to your kids way more than anything you ever tell

(16:11):
them or teach them or whatever. And uh, but that's
a powerful story, man. And again I think you know
that just perfectly sums up now. Obviously we're in kind
of a deep dive right now. We're talking about like
a foundational thing. But at the heart of it, like
the main thing, like you said, that we're trying to
do is just take everyday topics and how we relate

(16:33):
to him, how we go if we go through something,
you know, we want to try to talk about it.
But man, that's that's an awesome, awesome thing. And I
think you know, my Sunday school teachers talked about it before,
how your marriage should be a ministry in and of itself,
Like but also you know, your home is a powerful thing.

(16:55):
And the fact that you just welcome this guy in
and then talk to him about Jesus and then he
lets having this like really good I think that's the
point of all of it is, Like, you know, that's
I think that that's what Jesus wants is like, you know,
now we can get into theology and like, well, me

(17:15):
affirming your sin, is that love or is it not?
Or you know, correction versus whatever, Like we can get
into all those theology things, but like there's a difference
between somebody that's not a believer someone is. If there's
a believer and you're trying to keep them on the path,
you know, correction and speaking in their life and all,
that's fine. But if someone's not a believer, you just

(17:36):
have to show them love and plant seeds and let
God do rest, you know. And I think you guys
handled that perfect.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Dude. It was insane because whenever I kind of was
running low on words, my wife would pick up, and
then when she'd get done with her point, he would
talk for a little bit and then I would pick up.
And it was like the Lord was just given us
what we needed to say. And you know the fact

(18:04):
that all all glory goes to God, all credit goes
to God. He put that man in front of us
for a reason at that time, the fact that that
man walked out of here with a little bit different
view of Jesus and said he wanted to start reading
his Bible and the fact that he walked out of
this house with maybe a different view of his mother,

(18:24):
maybe something he had been holding on to for a
very long time. Maybe he's got some peace with that now.
Maybe that's why we were here. I don't know why.
All I know is God is good. You never know
when you're entertaining angels, you know, you just don't. And
we took what could you know when he was slapping
my cross talking about you know, oh, religion destroyed my life,

(18:45):
we could have been like a right, dude, well have
a nice day, but that as Christians and you and
I especially trying to be on here spreading the word
of God, if we don't do what that word tell us,
then who are we to sit here and tell everybody
else how it's supposed to work.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
So and you're not like in tune with him if
you make it all about you know, like if you
would have made it all about you in that situation,
or your wife or whatever, you know, like if you
guys would have you know, went in with selfish reasons
of like no, dude, we're gonna we're gonna convert this

(19:26):
guy right now, and you know we're going to do this,
and like you know where's if you go in with
the spirit and let him leave. You know, I think
that it worked out the way it's supposed to. You play,
and I mean, that guy's probably going to come back
at some point. He'll find an excuse to stop back by.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
You know. He invited us out to his house. He
told us exactly where he lives. He said, all you
got to do is look for the two really old
international tractors in the front yard. He goes, and you know,
I mowed my grass for the first time this, you know,
a few weeks ago for springtime, and I found a
couple of old fears.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
In my That's funny. Yeah, you guys got a uh
you guys have an anniversary thing coming up too. I seen.
I was. I was privileged to be invited, but I
was like, man, I don't know if I can make
it up there for that. But I noticed you guys
had that thing going on too.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, we got Hugary and nine July fourth, they'll be
married fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Where does the time go? I sent you, Ah, I'm
not gonna show it on here, but I sent you
a video blast from the past today who were both
BC But dude, I was rolling. It's I'll tell the
viewers about it, but it's a video. We're at Chris's farm, me,
Chris and a co worker, and he'd invited us up

(20:46):
that was where you cook those awesome like I eat
us or whatever it was. I always get it messed up,
but you invited us out there and we shot guns
and everything, and he's had a good time. But dude,
that was and I just I think I had my
phone or something and I just was shooting some random
videos and I was a guy I throwed up on
YouTube or whatever, you know. But dude, I stumbled back

(21:07):
on that today and I was like, oh my gosh,
that's a blast from the past because we were both
cussing and everything, like totally different people in that video.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
But dude, totally different. I came in here and I
showed it to Audrey while she was working, and she
was cracking up. Dude at the whole.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh yeah, when her buddy was shooting a gun like
right in your ear or whatever.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, he was literally like two steps to my left
and I was catching all of his casings on top
of the sound. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was crazy good times. Man.
I saw that and I was like, man, that makes
me miss the farm. It really does. That makes me
miss being in Tennessee and having a farm. And but

(21:51):
none of the called. So here we are right now.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
You had some family come back up Friday too. Ruh.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, Friday, my my oldest daughter and her family came
up and it was good. Hey, she's the one who
actually got this whole new audio setup for me for
the podcast. And I know she'll probably never listen to
this podcast, but hey, Keela, I all ain't gotta say this.

(22:19):
Thanks for helping expand the Kingdom of God.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, he loves your dad, you know. So, I guess
my weekend, my youngest daughter had her birthday. That was
an absolute blur. We did it outside, so it's brutally hot,
but you know, everybody seemed to enjoy it. I've been
campaigning for a while that all kid's birthday parties should

(22:42):
start between ten and eleven, So ours was ten to twelve.
So it's like early enough to where when it's done,
you got the rest of your day to do whatever,
but it's not so early that you can still sleep
in a little bit. It was outside, so by the
time we were wrapping up, it was getting hot. Or whatever.
But I got out there like seven fifteen, started setting

(23:03):
up tents and canopies and you know, all that and
getting set up for that, and so the whole thing
was a blurb, but everybody seemed to enjoy it, so
that was fun. I had some people from church over
just had a good day. Uh it was, Oh, I'm
teaching Sunday school Sunday, which I can't remember if I
talked about that on the podcast or not, but I

(23:27):
was actually I was debating on talking about doubting Thomas,
and I know I talked about that on here, but
I just think that whole theme of like you're not
defined by your low with some moments and stuff. Now
God might leave me in a different direction. But like
initially that was like okay, you know, like that was

(23:48):
what struck from, you know, and I was kind of
going back and forth and trying to think about like, well,
maybe I could do this, maybe I could do that,
but I just kept kind of going back to that,
So I think that's what I'm going to talk about.
And then really it's it's somewhat uneventful, but you know,
I was telling you about you know, I keep this

(24:09):
Bible in my back pocket. While I was walking into
Waggles this morning, and uh, it was in my back pocket. Well,
this there was a guy. He held the door open
for me and I walked in. Well I heard him
say something and it didn't really register that he was
like talking to me. I kind of just I was like, oh, thanks, man.
I just kind of walked in and he said something,
and it just my brain didn't really well. So then

(24:31):
I went to Uh I went to check out, and
he was like in front of me, and then he
turned around and see me. He's like bear cracked that
book open sun and uh, I kind of smiled and
I said, oh. I was like, yeah, no, dude, I do.
I was like, man, that's why I keep it in
my back pocket at all times, you know. And he's like,
well that's good. That's real good man. You know, we

(24:51):
all are to do that more and kind of walked off.
But I was like, you know, so in my head
I was like, who knows. However, many other people seen
it and thought, you know whatever, and like I said,
it's uneventful, but uh, I bought this Bible and it's
not very big at all, Like literally it fits in
my back pocket and I was like, dude, I don't
want to buy it, like an actual case for this thing,

(25:12):
just because it's gonna be in my back pocket a lot.
It's like, dude, it's so small, you know whatever. But
I wanted to start carrying this to church so I
could be more lightweight. So I actually, I don't know
how well you can see this on the video, but
I actually made a duct tape case for it. So
what I did was I made it big enough so

(25:34):
I've got like my my pins and highlighters and stuff
in there or whatever. But I made it big enough
to where I could like throw it down in there,
and I made this like little strap thing or whatever,
and then I basically made it like a little pocket
right here, so I can literally just slide that in
there and uh, you know, carry it with me to
church or whatever. So but like literally I stayed up

(25:59):
till like two in the morning in it over the
weekend making this. My wife was like, it's like you're
spending a lot of time on that, but I was
like yeah, but I mean it's this is like the
perfect size.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Though.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
It's like now when I go to church, I can
get this, you know, and then I can grab like
one of my notebooks or whatever, and you know I'm
super lightweight.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Dude, I love it. That is so creative. My wife
would be so proud of you. She is always making stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, well, it's just it's one of those things. I
was like, man, I could buy an actual cakes for
it or whatever, but I was just like, man, I'm
just gonna make this little, you know, pouch or whatever,
and it's out of duct tape. So it's like, well,
you know, if if I mess it up or something
happens or whatever, it's like, I just make another one
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
But dude, you know Duck Dynasty would mass produce those
and sell them for you.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
It's Camo, right, Yeah, yeah, it's Camo. All it is
is Camo duct tape. Like I said, I don't know
how I love it see it, but yeah it's uh.
If I can take a picture of it or whatever,
I will. But it took me some time. But you know,
I used to make those duct tape wallets and stuff
in high school all the time. So but uh, that
was basically my weekend. Like I said, nothing too eventful,

(27:11):
not nearly as eventful as yours. But uh, you know,
but that's that's awesome, though. I mean I did go
to a get together Saturday night. My wife was too
guessed to go. She stayed home with my one year old.
But I got to go up there to Sanctuary Hills
hang out with some people from church and stuff. That
was good. That was pretty much. I mean, my weekend

(27:34):
was somewhat uneventful, but it was, you know, it was
a good, chill weekend for the most part, though, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, a good deal. I don't know, you know, there's
there's been quite a few times that you've got a
whole bunch of stuff in here under how did your
week go? And I got, well, I was vertical all week.
So it's a good thing, you know. And and but yeah,
this week it was just the what a what an
amazing weekend? And you know the testimony to that really
is I had told you that I was struggling, and

(28:06):
then I was like, you know, why has God turned
his face from me? So I truly believe this weekend
was him saying, Chris, I have not turned my face
from you. Look, I'm still here. I'm just it's not
time for what you want yet to wait. So it
was it was a great weekend. And it was it
just I think it started more or less. Friday was

(28:29):
awesome with my birthday and my daughter being here. But
I think Saturday morning, when I went to that men's group,
I think that's when I broke free of the feeling alone.
And then the whole rest of the weekend was just
God encounter after God encounter, and it's just amazing. I
have nothing I can complain about.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
There's sometimes where we just have to be still and
listen and know, and I think there's just times where
we go through times where we just need to reach
charge your batteries a little bit, you know. Yeah, But yeah, dude, that,
like I said, that's awesome. I can't wait to see
what happens with that. I mean, that's to me and
that I don't think it could have went any more perfect.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
You know, I don't either. He might come back. I
would not be surprised if that guy comes back. I
have to updated and.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Let you know, I definitely think you're going to come back.
But in the prayer quest I put, you know, I'm
teaching Sundays, so I definitely want to pray for that.
I felt pretty strong in the fact of like I
feel pretty confident so far that I'm I'm going to

(29:40):
be teaching on what I need to teach on. So
for me, it's kind of like you're always nervous when
you're teaching or something like that, or speaking, because it's
like the blood on your hands thing like that part
of it that's always there. So like I'm already sort

(30:01):
of mentally like you know, nervous or whatever for that.
But that's a healthy nervousness. But as far as right
now now, I've been praying, like, God, if there's something
else you want to talk about, something different, whatever, I'm open.
You know, I'm not going to just get locked in
on this one thing and be like, Okay, well this
is what I'm going to teach on because this is
what I want to teach on or whatever. But right

(30:25):
now I feel, you know, but like once I get
going into it and like the jitters and the whatever,
and you know, you get the flow, it'll be fine.
So I'm not worried about that. But just really all
I'm I guess praying for there is just that, hey,
you know that I'm i make sure I'm on the
same page with God, like, Okay, this is what I
need to teach, and you know, I feel confident with

(30:46):
that and then just that I can convey the message.
But right now, that's my only prayer quest unless I
think of something else.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
All right, give me a second here, I'm catching up
to where we were where we left off last week.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Oh you're good? Are Are your prayer quests still the same?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah? Man, are pretty much the same. Yeah, I'm good.
Leave off, Okay, I'll find it. That's right.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
If you're on episode number third and seven, it should
just start with Dividic Covenant Cove. Yeah, finished, because we
finished the one before that, and then I basically copied
and pasted, so like the Dividic Covenants where we're starting.
Did you have any other prayer requests?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
No? Man, we're like I said, what an amazing weekend.
I'm feeling very blessed right now. I think that if anything,
and let's save it for the people who really need
it right now.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
So what do you want prayer for for your son
and your family?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, that's so Tristan.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
How you get listen?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, Tristan our son. He's been in Colorado, and I
don't think he listens to this, So I think I'll
be all right. But he got a job working at
an auto detailing shop in Colorado, and it turned out
that they are Iraqi hm and they are a Muslim.

(32:36):
And about a week ago I had a conversation with
my son and he started questioning the Bible, and I
was like, dude, don't do it. Do not listen to
what they're telling you. Okay, they're going to try to
convert you to Muslim. Please don't go down that road.

(32:57):
So he actually ended up not being at that employer anymore,
and we're trying to get him out of call around
them back here to Wisconsin so we can get him
plugged into church, into our church, and into guys his
age at church. So yeah, so just pray that he's
safe and until we can get him here.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
And then you've also got your family this prodigals, yep,
take some notes. So okay, all right, well we'll go
ahead and pray. Now if you guys are watching this,
by all means, if you have any prayer quest, just
you know, pray. You know, if you want to comment

(33:42):
on here, we'll catch him later and then you know,
we'll be sure to pray for him, either on the
next podcast or in our own private praise in prayer time.
If you guys, are you know, watching this or you're
listening to this, you can email us as well social media,
send us a message, whatever, and then other other than that,
just you know, if you guys have any prayer questions,

(34:03):
pray along with us. I'll go ahead and pray and
we'll go ahead and get started. Dear God, we just
thank you for all the many blessings that we have, God,
even the ones that we don't necessarily give you credit for. God,
You're just You're You're so good to us, even when

(34:25):
we don't deserve it, and even when we don't give
credit for it, you just you always come through. It
may not be in the way that we necessarily want it,
but your will is always done and and it's always
working for the greater good. God. I just pray that
just through the rest of this weekend coming into Sunday,

(34:48):
that you guide me in the direction I need to
teach Sunday school class. God, And I just I don't
want to teach on something that I want to teach on.
I don't want to make it about me. To make
sure that I'm in tune with you and that whoever
needs to hear the message, here's it, and they get
something out of it and it can touch their lives

(35:09):
to build your kingdom. God. We pray for Chris's son, Tristan.
We just pray for his journey and that you can
just reveal to him what his purpose is for his life.
And we all go through those periods where we just
we ask questions and we wonder, and it's natural to

(35:32):
do that, God, but we just pray that you'll pay
the way that he can come back home be with
his family, and you know that he can get rooted
in a church that that will love him and accept
him and teach him the Bible and teach in a
way that you can hop off the page and he
can experience you fully in a way that there is

(35:55):
no shaky foundation, there is no questions. God. We also
want to pray for Chris's family, not just prodigals in
his family, but his family as a whole. You're working,
you know, Chris and his wife, for they're becoming the
the godly parents and the godly patriarchs of that family,

(36:16):
and they're they're leading the next generation not only their family,
but the community around them. And we just pray that
you continue to let them be a ministry and a
witness for you. And we pray for those that's that's
that's living for you and they're going to church and
they're they're they're getting rooted and they're getting fed. But

(36:38):
then we also pray for the ones that maybe they've
lost their way, they're not sure where they're at, and
we just pray that you can you can just pave
the way for them to come back to you, and
that you can create opportunities to where Chris and his
family can minister to them. And we pray for he
the other prodigals that's either listening to this or also

(36:58):
that might be attacked, the viewers, the listeners, and we
just pray that prodicles could come back home because you know,
to be honest with you, we just don't know how
much more time that they have. If there's any other
prayer quest anybody's listening to this, watching this on YouTube,
anything like that, we pray that you give them the
strength and the courage lifted up to you right now.

(37:20):
And I just want to pray for all the unspoken
prayer quests, all the prayer quests that's that's they feel
like it is going unheard, but you see them exactly
where they're at, and we pray that touch them right
now through us, and we just we love you, we
thank you, and we adore you and your heavily name.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
We pray Amen.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
So let's uh, I'll give Chris just a second to
kind of shift years. But we are talking about covenants.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
We are talking about real quick. I wanted to ask
you if you understand something, just just a quick side note,
and I know you with the few and I usually
not a quick side note, but it like the guy
we were talking to, he asked me about God being
omnipresent omniscient, and there was one more omnipotent. Omnipotent means

(38:18):
he's all powerful. Omniscient means he's everywhere all the time.
Now the other one omni present, means he's in everything
all the time. I didn't didn't know what those meant,
or did you.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I mean, I know what I guess, so.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I'm not trying to put you on the.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Spot the specific terms like I don't know. I wouldn't
have known what omni omney present. I mean I did
know that.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
When what was the other one omniscient which means he's
everywhere all the time.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah. Now I may have mixed omnipresent and omni he
mixed not omnipotent omnipotent. I wouldn't known what the that's
it omnicia and omnipresent. My brain would have probably just
connected those two and be like, oh, well, he's everywhere else,
you know, But I don't. I definitely would have known

(39:20):
what omnipotent is.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Well, just just a quick note. This guy told me
he is a omnipresent believer, and I said, well, what
do you mean by that. He said, well, he's in everything,
like the couch, the walls. And I said, I don't,
I don't, I don't think so. And he goes, what
I said, I have to disagree with you. He said, well,

(39:43):
why why is that? What's your reasoning? I said, you
see this lampshade right here? Yeah, I said, eventually that
thing is going in the garbage. It's going to the landfill.
If that's God in that lamp shade, I'm throwing a
piece of God or I'm throwing God in the garbage.
I don't believe he's you're talking about materialistic things that

(40:05):
are man made. God gave the person who made it
the skill to make it, but God's not like actually
in it. I said. Now, when I look outside and
I see the trees blowing in the wind giving oxygen
for us human beings to live, knowing they're living and
breathing themselves, yeah, I see God in that, but I
don't see God in the desk. So if just just

(40:27):
a quick side, that might be something we could discuss
later on down the line too, because it can be
really confusing.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, I mean I would like when I think of
on the present, I just think like his presence is
everywhere or not, He's in like every like he's I
don't know that I believe that, like God is in
my earbuds sense right, Definitely, it's definitely interesting, Like I
think he's everywhere all the time, you know, whereas like

(40:57):
Satan is not omniscient, he can only be one spot
and one like we what's funny is we think that
like the Devil's in everything, Like if I'm stuck in traffic,
it's the devil or this car cuts me or whatever.
But like really the devil has a third of the
angels with him that fell, so he's got his army
of legions. But the devil is not able to be

(41:20):
on the like, he's not God, so he can't be.
He's only where he's at, you know, and that he
can use his like legion and whatever. But but yeah, no,
that's definitely an interesting question.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, okay, so just said note, we'll, we'll, we'll bring
that up. Maybe that'll be a topic of discussion in
the future. But you got to get through David.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Tonight, we're talking about the Dividic Covenant as well as
the New Covenant. We have covered some other ones in
the past. I feel free to go back and listen
to those. But yeah, this was a fan submitted question
by Brazel. Normally we would not It's not that we're

(42:00):
above or afraid or anything like that to tackle like
deeper topics as far as like foundational stuff. It's just
that's not typically like the format of like what we
go for per se. But this is a more deeper one.
And so Chris it was his turn to pick a topic.
He decided to go ahead and tackle this for Razil.

(42:20):
And so we're going to pick up with the Dividic Covenant.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, okay, Razil, here we go. So now we're into
the Dividic Covenant, all right, we're looking at Second Samuel
seven eight through sixteen, and it says verse eight. Now, therefore,
thus shall you say to my servant David, Thus says
the Lord of Hosts. I took you from the sheepfold,

(42:45):
from following the sheep, to be ruler over my people
over Israel. And I have been with you wherever you
have gone, and I have cut off all your enemies
from before you, and have made you a great name
of the great men who are on earth. Moreover, I
will appoint a place for my people Israel, and I
will plant them that they may dwell in a place

(43:06):
of their own and move no more, nor shall the
sons of wickedness oppress them anymore. As previously, since the
time that I have commanded judges to be over my
people Israel, I have caused you to rest from all
your enemies. Also, the Lord tells you that he will
make you a house. When your days are fulfilled and

(43:27):
you rest with your fathers, I will set up your
seed after you, who will come from your body, and
I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house
for my name, and I will establish the throne of
his kingdom. Forever I will be his father. He shall
be my son. If he commits inequity, I will chasten
him with the rod of men and with the blows

(43:50):
of the sons of men. But my mercy will not
depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom
I removed from before you, and your house and your
kingdom will be established forever before you. Your throne shall
be established forever. Yeah, talking to David there, because old

(44:10):
Saul got a little bit a little bit too big
for his breeches as king and started thinking he was
He started thinking he was above God and that he
didn't have to listen to God, and so God smacked
him down and said, well, that's okay, We'll just take
you out and put a new king in your place.
And then David came along. So David gets this covenant right.

(44:31):
So the Davidic Covenant amplifies the seed aspect of the
Abrahamic Covenant. The promises to David in his passages are significant.
God promised that David's lineage would last forever and that
his kingdom would never pass away permanently. So there's your covenant.
So obviously the davidict throne has not been in place

(44:53):
at all times. There will be a time, however, when
someone from the line of David will again sit on
the throne and rule as king. This future king is Jesus.
So God just made a covenant with David and said, look,
I'm gonna do this for you, and I'm gonna set

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you up and you're going to be a godly man.
And even though you're gonna come with iniquities, I'm gonna
chastise you for those, but you're still going to have
a great name. I will never strip you from the
name you you are Israel. And then Jesus comes from
the lineage of David, you know, so yeah that any

(45:36):
any thoughts.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Well, like you said, it's it's the lineage, right, Like
he's basically saying, like, you know, Jesus is gonna come
through your lineage. You know, it's going to be a
royal bloodline, honesty, whatever it's, it's gonna it's gonna be
around for you know, the rest of tom because Jesus

(45:59):
is gonna come through that blood line. And we'll talk
about the new Covenant here in a minute. But like
Jesus is gonna come through that that blood line, then
obviously he's gonna establish like a kingdom that's gonna last forever,
you know, and so which you know, we've talked about
a little bit on the I think maybe the the

(46:20):
around Christmas we were talking about like the lineage and
stuff like that. How like really technically Jesus should have
been king, but somewhere along the lines some wires got
crossed or whatever. But he's the king of like heaven
and Earth and you know all that. But but like
that's kind of what this is talking about here, like
Chris alluded to, is like God loved David so much.

(46:45):
He was a man after his own heart, even though
he stumbled and fell and made mistakes, that the forever
kingdom is gonna be through him because he was just
such a great man of God, which I think is
a great picture because it's like blood times. We think,
you know, when we mess up that like oh we're
just like a peace of crap and we can't you
know whatever, and it's like there's always like God always

(47:09):
redeems his children even when we mess up. And it's
a great picture because nowadays society would point to David.
You know, it doesn't matter if it's a politician or whoever.
I'm not going to get into politics. But it's like,
you know, you look at Trump, and before he ever
ran for president, you know, he was like, you know,
oh yeah, he's a celebrity, he's got money. All these

(47:32):
people want to be tied to him, associated to him, whatever.
But then once he became quote unquote king, president whatever
you're gonna call it, now, all of a sudden it's like, oh,
well you did this. And so nowadays we would take
somebody like David and say, oh, yeah, but you had
this scandal back here. We're never going to forget about that.
But God restores those, you know, and his children, and so,

(47:55):
like you said, this covenant here is it's an it's
an eternal, everlasting covenant. He's he's saying, dude, you know,
I'm going to send the Messiah through your lineage and
your kingdom, will you know, reign forever. And so it's
a beautiful picture.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, it really is. When you see when you look
at that, the covenant that God made with any of them, Abraham, Moses, David,
they're beautiful things. They're always to benefit us, you know,
and God doesn't have to give us that grace, but
he does. So we're going to get into the new

(48:36):
Covenant now, which is what you kind of brought up.
You kind of let us right into it. So New
Covenant Jeremiah thirty one thirty one through thirty three. Behold,
the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will
make a new covenant with the House of Israel and
with the House of Judah. Not according to the covenant
that I made with their fathers and the day that

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I took them by the hand and to lead them
out of the land of Egypt, my covenant which they
broke though I was a husband to them, says the Lord.
But this is the covenant that I will make with
the House of Israel. After those days, says the Lord,
I will put my law in their minds and write
it on their hearts, and I will be their God,

(49:19):
and they shall be my people. Now, who do you
think he's talking to humanity?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, Like, when I read that, well, let me pull
the screen back up that part about I will put
my law in their minds and write it on their hearts,
and I will be their God and they shall be

(49:47):
my people.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
To me that when like when I read that, I'm like, Okay,
that's a picture of like the the Holy Spirit. Right,
So like when Jesus left, we were given to get
you know, he says, I'm going to send another comfort.
He gives us the Holy Spirit. Well it he's saying like,
I'm going to write it on their hearts. I'm going
to be their God. And so like when I read that,

(50:11):
now again you know, again we're not theologians, but when
I read that, that's that's what where my mind goes to.
It's like, you know, and that's we've talked about it before.
I know I've referenced it. But like you know, when
God made man, he formed him from the dirt, breathed
the breath of life into him, and then he created
EU from that. So it's like when I talk about like,

(50:35):
you know, God's like a DNA is in us. I
don't mean that we are like God. We can never
be like God. There's people that say, oh, we're little
God's where this we can never be even remotely close
to God or a God or anything like that. But
it's just when he wrote when he designed us, he

(50:56):
I just he made us with the DNA to where
he can speak to us. And so it's like he
puts the wiring in there. The hardware. But you know,
so it's like, look, you look at a computer, you
have a hardware, but then when you become saved, he
gives you the Holy Spirit and that's the software that

(51:16):
goes into and it all works and flows together, you know.
And so a lot of times I don't mind to
get into a like I love apologetics from the standpoint
of being able to answer hard questions and talk to unbelievers.
But when we start getting in the weeds with fellow
believers and you're debating theology and this and that, and

(51:38):
then even with non believers, if you're getting too far
in the weeds and you start trying to get super analytic,
talk to that DNA that God has wrote on our heart.
If you talk to that, you're gonna have a way
better outcome than if you try to get into like
oh well, you know, like the like if the society

(52:03):
ran on a Christian society, we would be better because
it's like, now, talk to the DNA because God says
he writes it on our hearts right up to that DNA.
Share your story, connect with because it's in there. You
just have to connect with that. But that's a very
powerful verse. I'm actually going to probably highlight that while

(52:23):
we're talking.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
But yeah, I really like it because it's like, okay,
up to this point, I gave the commandments to Moses, right,
and we wrote them in stone right, and that didn't work.
And he's tried all this stuff and he's finally at
the point where he's like, look, I'm just going to

(52:46):
write it on your heart because you're not reading it,
so it's just going to be there all the time
for you to access when you're ready.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Well, And that's the thing too, Like if you've ever
tried to talk with like a herd core atheist and
in your brain you're just like, dude, Howard, how don't
it's because although God designed us with that hardware, if
they don't have that software implanted, they can't get it.

(53:16):
Like I think it's John three six maybe that talks
about that which is of the flesh, is the flesh
that was the spirit's spirit. It's like fleshly people that's
living with their own desires, they can't comprehend the spiritual
side of it because it's not written on their heart yet.

(53:38):
Like yes, like when you accept Jesus and you get
the Holy Spirit, it's in there and he can communicate
with you through that. But if someone doesn't have that,
I mean, you're not gonna get very.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Far, you know, right right, And especially if, for one,
if you don't know how to access it. And number two,
if you've just gotten so cold towards it that you've
put those barricades up over that and just refuse to
look at it because you just would rather not. I mean,

(54:11):
it's easier. It's easier to say, yeah, there is no God,
so I can do whatever I want to do in life,
and it really doesn't matter as opposed to, yeah there's
a God, and I should probably be on my best
behavior as well as I need to be telling everybody
else about it. So, I mean, I get your points.
So let's go into and have a little fun here, Drew.

(54:34):
Last week we were done, he decided he's going to
go ahead and pull up Google AI on this verse
and kind of see what it says. So we're going
to read what AI has to say.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yeah, we just so, you know, talking about the New Covenant. Yeah,
it was one of those things where you know, we
were talking about this next upcoming episode and it was like, well,
you know, let's just for kicks and giggles see what
Google AI fits out, and this is one of those
things where it actually kind of spit out. It's like, okay, well,
I mean that, you know, I actually can vibe with that,

(55:06):
but but you know, we know that Jesus is the
New Covenant. You hear people talk about, oh, we're not
We're not under the Old Covenant anymore, under the New Covenant.
It's like, okay, so like, Jesus is a new Covenant,
what does that mean? Though your average person is like, well,
under the New Covenant, it's like, okay, what is that, right?

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Jesus like yeah, And then you get I'm not sure.
I just know there's one I know we can eat pork, right, right, Okay,
So this is what we came up with in Google AI.
In Christian theology, the New Covenant refers to the agreement
between God and humanity established through Jesus Christ, replacing the

(55:49):
Old Covenant or Mosaic Covenant. Jesus is the mediator of
this new agreement in his death on the Cross is
the basis for its promises of forgiveness and restored relationship
with God. Here's more detailed explanation. Number one. The Old
Covenant or Mosaic Covenant. This covenant was established through Moses

(56:13):
and involved God's Law given to the Israelites, emphasizing obedience
to the law for blessings and relationship with God. However,
the Old Covenant also highlighted humanity's inability to perfectly keep
the law and the need for atonement for sin. I mean,
it makes perfect sense, that's the way I kind of

(56:35):
see that verse.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
So we can move on to U two. Go ahead,
Oh well, yeah, I just I was gonna say that. Yeah,
like under the old law, you know, the wages of
sin is death, you know, and so in order for
you know, our sin, there has to be like a
pure sacrifice to cleanse that sin. Right, So it's like
under the old law they have a big barbecue sacrifice

(57:00):
an animal and then you know, and basically like that
was what they had to do. But because we kept
sinning over and over and over again, you know, God
sends Jesus down to be the ultimate, perfect sacrificial lamb,
and his blood covers all that, so you know, like
you said, but but yeah, yeah, definitely, okay, So which

(57:24):
that's what you're about to get into him.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah, So number two, the New Covenant Covenant of Grace.
This covenant is based on God's grace and mercy offered
through faith in Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Now.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
The key aspects include the forgiveness of sins. Jesus's sacrifice
on the crost atones for the sins of all who believe,
offering forgiveness and reconciliation with God. A relationship with God.
The New Covenant allows for a direct and personal relationship
with God through faith in Jesus, rather than being based

(57:57):
solely on adherence to the law. Our opening statement, we
focus so no judgment or by laws, right, Okay, So
you have internal laws, internalized law. God's law is written
on the hearts of believers, leading to a desire to
obey and live according to God's will. And we have

(58:18):
Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is given to believers to
empower them to live a life pleasing to God. Number
three Jesus as the mediator. Jesus's role as the mediator
of the New Covenant is crucial. He stands between God
and humanity, offering the sacrifice that atones for sin and

(58:40):
opens the way for a restored relationship. You just nail it,
or that's exactly what you said. So Jesus is our mediator,
and he says, Matthew, I'm drawing a blank. Nobody comes
to the Father except through me, period end of story.

(59:02):
I am the sacrifice. I am the perfect sacrifice. I've
laid down my life for you. Now. Unless you can
acknowledge that and acknowledge my sacrifice for humanity, you can't
get into heaven. You can't even talk to God. Talk
to God all you want, but unless you do it
through Jesus, it ain't happening. That's the covenant.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
That's what we have to do, right Yeah, And like
you you know, you're kind of talking about it on
the last episode as well about you know, like you said,
it was like, okay, I'm gonna we're going to fix
this right here and right now, one last time. This

(59:42):
is all the marbles, okay. And you know, Jesus offered
his own life, he says, I you know, I offer
my life as as my own free will a gift. Right,
He offered his own life. He sacrificed himself as the
sacrificial lamb. And the significance of that is because he

(01:00:05):
was sinless, because he was perfect, he did no wrong,
and he was sacrificed and literally like the worst possible way.
He was the perfect sacrificial lamb to be sacrificed. And
because of that perfection that covers the sins of anything

(01:00:26):
that we've ever done, anything we're ever going to do.
But like you said, it's still because he did that.
It's like, okay, now you come to me, like literally,
all you have to do is accept that gift, you know,

(01:00:46):
just I mean, and like you put your faith and
trust in him as your savior, the lord of your life,
and you live for him. And the live for him
part is you know, the Bible talks about how faith
with that works is dead. It's not that. Okay, now
you have a set of rules you have to thought
that's the old law. But because you love him, he says,

(01:01:09):
if you love me, you'll keep my commandments because out
of that love, you're going to want to live for him.
Like we've talked about before, faith is a gift, or
you know, your salvation is a gift that that is
just you accept it. The works is evidence of that salvation, right,

(01:01:33):
Like so if you're wondering if you listen to this, like,
well you know what I know that you know, kneel down,
set of prayer, pray to prayer. I did this, and
you know, I don't know if I'm saved. Well, the Bible,
that's where it talks about the fruit. You can tell
by the fruit you know of the tree of you know,
the fruit that it bears. What you know, if that's

(01:01:54):
a good tree, you're not. And it's not that you
have to do works in order to you know, be sad,
but it's just evidence of you know, and it's just
because you love him so much like if you love
your actual father, you're gonna want to mow the lawn.
You're gonna want to you know, listen to what he says.
You're gonna respect him, and so but it's it's not

(01:02:15):
that it's like, Okay, now I have a set of
rules I have to follow. And that's where a lot
of religions get it wrong. It's like, it's not that
you have to, it's just that's the evidence if your
life has no fruit, if there's never a point where
you did a one eighty, there was never you know,
you didn't fill the conviction and Jesus didn't wash you

(01:02:35):
to where you felt free, and there's never this point
in time where you're like dude, I was this way
Jesus came in and now I'm totally different. Then that's
where you have to search within yourself of like whether
or not maybe you didn't lock it in and you know,
and again, it's just it's out of that love and abundance.

(01:02:57):
You know, when you're like, when you're living for him,
you're gonna feel bad about sin and you're not gonna
be able to just sin and be oh, well, you
know it's whatever. It's when you're actually what and that's
that conviction, the Holy Spirit will start to work in
your life where you're like, dude, I don't want to
live like this. I feel bad. But the works isn't
required for salvation. It's just evidence of that salvation. You know.

(01:03:21):
I don't know if that makes sense to the listeners,
but you know, but there's a lot of people that
muddy the water is on that. My pastor said it,
I think last week or maybe the week before or whatever,
but he said, this side of heaven, you will never
be sinless, but through Jesus you can sin less. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good saying. Actually I really
like that. Yeah, basically, the way I see it Drew is.
God got tired of taking us by the hand throughout history,
so he made this new cove. He knew he was
coming here in the flesh as Jesus, to be the

(01:04:05):
Atonement and the perfect and final required sacrifice for eternity
in heaven. Now he's turned it over to us. I've
done all I can do. It's your choice. Either you're
going to accept this and you're going to believe it,
or you're not, and it's your choice. I'm not forcing anybody.

(01:04:27):
You have free will, but you do have a get
out a hell free card. Does that make sense? You
got to get out a hell free card with Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Basically, it's like he laid all the cards on the
table all in. This is what it is. You can
either accept it and live for me, but you can
reject it and do what you want and be separated
from me. And when you die, God loves you enough
if you choose to live a life separate from him

(01:05:00):
and you reject him, he loves you enough to honor that.
And dude, I do not want to live, you know.
And I'll close with this, but a real good friend
of mine will telling me about his pastor he put
it this way. He's like, if you live your entire
life and you want nothing to do with God, what
makes you want to spend eternity with him? Like I

(01:05:23):
don't want to get to heaven and then be like,
oh hey Jesus, you know, let me get to know
you like that, Like, if you want to live your
whole life separate from him, then what even makes you
like think that you like want to go to heaven
because it's like you don't like why get why spend
eternity with him? You know, it's like, get it right
this side of heaven. But like I said, you know,

(01:05:44):
God loves you enough if you choose to reject him
and be separate from him, He's going to honor that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Yeah, all right, let me get through his last two Okay.
So then we had the Last Supper. Jesus instituted the Eucharist,
the Holy Communion at the Last Supper, using bread and
wine to symbolize his body and blood, which would be
sacrificed for the New Covenant. Now we have number five
fulfillment of prophecy. The New Covenant was prophesied in the
Old Testament Jeremiah thirty one thirty one through thirty four,

(01:06:14):
and Christians believe it was fulfilled in Jesus Christ. So
number six impact of the New Covenant. The New Covenant
has profound implications for believers, offering forgiveness, a renewed relationship
with God, and the empowerment of the Holy Spirit to
live a life of faith and obedience. So now we're

(01:06:35):
back to God doing all of the heavy lifting again. Right,
God's back to Okay, I'm going to be the sacrifice.
I'm going to come down, I'm going to be human.
I'm going to sacrifice for you guys. So in today's world,
how often do we hear the word covenant other than
in the Bible or servants? Is there any covenant other

(01:06:55):
than a Holy covenant? Something you could research? So let's
be honest here. Most of us have broken a promise
or too, maybe even broken a contract of some kind.
Would we view these promises and contracts differently if they
were called a covenant? Instead? Ask yourself, why or why not?
Did you the way you answer that question? So in closing,

(01:07:18):
there have been a few different covenants in the Bible,
but in Jeremiah we see our God take it all
on himself to save us from ourselves, and then He
comes in the flesh as Jesus to make all things
new and take on the sins of humanity and wash
us clean. Bottom line, God makes covenants for us and

(01:07:38):
with us because He loves us and he does not
want to see us separated from Him for all eternity.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
That will free thr up there and I think that
is the perfect spot to sign off on there. I
hope that you guys have got something out of this.
You know, this has been a Chris did a great
job on this series. It's been a bit of a
deep dive. But I genuinely hope that you guys have

(01:08:07):
got something out of this and hopefully understand the covenants
in a deeper, more personal way. I just want to
remind you guys be where we get out of here,
and make sure you like, subscribe, share this podcast. It
helps us grow. You got any questions I did, you
just want to say hey, whatever, Email us at the
Unreligious Podcast at gmail dot com. You can also comment

(01:08:28):
on our socials coming on this video if you're watching
on YouTube. Other than that, just make sure you guys
follow us, and we want to say thank you so
much for tuning in today. Our prayers that this episode
has helped you feel closer to Jesus or reminds you
that Hope is alive. No matter where you're at in
your journey, Jesus is with you. He's not mad at you.
He loves you. That's all I got, and that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Is all I have, Brazil. I hope this this did
you good. If if you have questions, you have my number,
you know, reach out and we can talk about it.
But this is this is what I could come up
with for Covenant. It took me a good what three
weeks drew of studying on this, almost a month to
get it put together.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
So anyways, I hope you all enjoyed it. I hope
you got a lot out of it. I hope you
understand Covenant. I know I understand Covenant a whole lot
better than when I dove into this. So yeah, it's
always a good thing for us to do the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Well that's all I got. I am Big Drew and
I am Chris and this has been the unreligious podcast.
Y'all take it easy and have a good rest of
the week. Se

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