#44 - Don't Judge Me (Part 2) - Unreligious

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome to the Unreligious Podcast, where we spread the love
of Jesus without a judgment or by laws, focusing solely
on Jesus Christ himself and the Bible.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm Chris and I'm Big Drew Ski. Big Drew Ski,
my brother, my brother from another mother. How you doing
this week? Man, I'm tired.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Man, it's been I'm so exhausted, dude, the wheels have
been rolling. I mean all week. It's been crazy. I
tell you about my week real quick. I had a
rough one Monday. I woke up at like five o'clock
in the morning with a bang in migraine. It kept
me in all day. And then Tuesday I got up

(01:03):
and I was feeling better and we recorded, and then Wednesday,
I woke up four o'clock in the morning another banging headache.
So I don't know what's going on with these migraines,
but they've been I mean they're bad.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
So it got better.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I was praying and praying because we had the Global
Leadership Summit at our church on Thursday and Friday, and
I was praying so hard, Lord, don't let me wake
up Thursday or Friday with a headache, because I really
want to go to this and I didn't. I got
up Thursday morning, felt great. We went to the Global
Leadership Summit all day from eight in the morning till
five in the evening. Absolutely amazing. Some of the speakers

(01:44):
in there do. I gotta tell you, John Maxwell, you
know who he is, of course, dude, Yeah, I love him.
He blew me out of my chair. That man is
honestly probably the most humble, god fearing, god loving human
being I've ever witnessed. He's just his whole testimony, his

(02:07):
whole story is absolutely amazing, and he was just telling us,
you know, everything I do, everything that I've accomplished. I've
got five businesses and everything i've accomplished, all the books
I've written, they're not of me.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's all God.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Every single second of every day, every minute, it is God.
God has done this in my life, and I always
give him credit. I'm just like this this guy. And
then it was Craig Crocial.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I never was one hundred percent sure on how to
pronounce the but I like, I think I literally have
like two of his books. But it was one of
those things I never actually got the correct spelling. It's
another one of those like I always just said it fast,
like oh yeah, cross you know, but yeah, yeah, I
know You've done about he he uh that dude. He

(02:59):
was the first speaker, and he's my kind of people.
He came out with that that energy, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
He was fired up, dude, running back and forth across
the stage, and I was like, yes, what a way
to open it, you know, like it was. It was
really good, dude. I got a lot of spiritual stuff
out of it. But you and I were blue collar workers, right,
I felt like this summit was geared more towards the

(03:27):
corporate machine.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
It was about leadership, but it was about how to
lead a team, and so I took what I could
from it as far as leading a team for like
being a small group leader or you know, a boss
or something. But they had a lot of stuff in
there about how to take care of all your emails
and how to take care of it was. It was
a lot of corporate but dude, the speakers were absolutely amazing.
My wife, being in the corporate world like she is,

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I don't think she stopped writing notes both days, and
she was all over and she got a lot out
of it. But yeah, so we went to that Thursday
and Friday, Saturday, we took a little break and didn't
do a whole lot. And then Sunday we volunteer second
Sunday of every month to go in and help with
the janitorial stuff for all three services. So we did

(04:15):
that on Sunday. We were there all three services, which
was awesome because in between services and during services that
I wasn't in for, I got to write a bunch
of notes and stuff for future.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Podcasts, so that was cool.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Then Sunday, my grandson wanted to come home with us
after church, so we brought him home.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
He's six years old.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
We brought him back to the house and he stayed
the night Sunday night, and most of the day actually
all day Monday and yesterday. And dude, I got to
tell you that little guy, he is so smart and
he doesn't want electronics in front of him. If you
put a movie on for that kid, he's about twenty
maybe thirty minutes and he's done with it.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
He wants to be outside.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
He doesn't want the switch, he doesn't want the xbox,
he doesn't want the phone to play on. He wants
to be outside playing. He wants to be using his
hands and playing in the dirt making mud pies and dude,
it's just so refreshing.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
He's an old soul. Yeah, he's an old soul, different time.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, he's got no use for no use for electronics.
He just doesn't care about it, and it's it's awesome.
So yeah, it's it's a breath of fresh air to
see a young kid like that not engulfed in a screen.
But anyway, so yeah, that was and then today a
bunch of shopping and then jump on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
So yeah, the leadership summit thing. I get what you're
saying because so like you know, like realistically right, because
I mean I've been like just tons of different conferences
and stuff, but like you know, you have some that's
geared towards different ones. Obviously youth conference is very specific.
But then you know you have like we used to

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go to what they call Winter Extreme, which was it's
like a it's a youth ish. I guess it's technically
a youth conference, but you know that was always up
in Gatlinburg. But they'd have bands like Flylef and Skillet
and you know whatever, all these like rock bands come
in and have speakers and stuff. But like you said,

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there is a little bit of like branding and marketing
when it comes to some of this stuff, because it's like,
well a leadership some I'm sure it was probably geared
towards youth pastors and senior pastors and like business you know,
Christian business owners and stuff like that. So I understand
what you're saying as far as, like you know, it

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was a little bit more like corporate esque from the
standpoint of like you know, they probably talked about like, hey,
here's how you lead a team and whatever that stuff.
I know Nick Saban was there. That's cool, dud. Dude.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
That guy is another I don't mean to interrupt you,
but him and probably him and maxwellm my two favorite
out of a whole bunch of people talk and Saban
was just dude.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
It was just amazing to keep. He told his soul story.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
They showed highlights up on the screen of his football
games and him on the sidelines coaching Alabama and how
he pretty much got fired from Michigan but it was
a blessing for him.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeh, dude, it was. It was. It was great, It
really was. Yeah. When he was at Michigan State or
whatever they really he did. I mean, I don't think
he really did all that great, and I think he
had like one good issue towards the end or whatever,
and then he went down that Now, he went into LSU,
did really good at LSU, went to the NFL that

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didn't work out, and then he came back and then
once he went to Bamba, the rest was history. But
I know he won at least one Natty down at
LSU as well. But yeah, obviously getting to sit and
listen to guys like that's, you know, life changing. But
but yeah, it was. He was. He was such a
good speaker, dude, every one of them. Or he's got

(08:03):
seven Natties. But then there's no telling how many conference
championships he has. He's probably got. I mean, he's got
a lot of conference championships. I'm sure. Great guy, but
so yeah, I mean, honestly, man, So I don't know
if you've seen any videos, but I got paid to

(08:23):
do video gigs past weekend, which to the listeners if
you guys don't want to talking about I get paid
basically to just showed, like shoot video and added videos
and stuff for people. But went out did a car
show that was fun for it was one person that
hired me to come out to shoot some content, but

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then I ran around got some more you know videos
of the cars and stuff. Did it. I actually did
a coffee shop too. I just walked in. I was like,
I ordered some coffee and I was like, hey, can
I shoot a video? They're like yeah, sure, and then
uh but you know, I was sitting there looking me
in and I mean, you know, I'm not saying it's

(09:04):
like bragging other than on myself because it has nothing
to do with me. But you know, God has just
really kind of been showing off a little bit in
my life lately as far as like, dude, I had
like the most profitable month like I've ever had as
far as like my side business stuff goes, like once

(09:25):
this weekend is over, I will be on track to
like make basically like I think an extra like nine
hundred is dollars over like six weeks.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Which is just like insane because you know it took me.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean I've been doing video and stuff, man and
graphic design and all that stuff for years. I mean
we're talking technically, I probably started when I was in
like college, which was like years ago, but uh, you

(10:06):
know that was probably that was a while ago. But uh,
you know, uh, I've probably been doing graphic design for
I mean at least fifteen ish years or so, never
really made any money with budo or graphic design. Like ever,

(10:27):
last year's first time I ever made any money whatsoever.
But like, the funny thing is is, dude, like once
I started like actually getting my faith and applying applying
Biblical principles to essential essentially everyday life as much as
I can, walking one on one with God, tithing and

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just like actually living a godly life, my life has
been blessed. And it's not like a lot of preachers
will or it will a lot of like televangelists and
whatever people they'll preach. Is like, oh, if you just
keep sending us money, you're gonna get it back. That's
not really the concept. It's like the closer that you

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walk with God and you take the Bible and you
apply it to your life. I think that God slows
everything down and just gives you vision. And the biggest
thing right now is I just for the first time
in my life, I feel like I'm just locked in
and it's like, Okay, here's my lane, this is what

(11:37):
I can do. I'm gonna do this very well. Yes
I have future goals and plans whatever, but this is
what I'm going to focus on, and I'm gonna fine
tune this and make it the best that I can.
But it's just literally, like you know, and then it's
like the more videos and stuff I start doing, the

(11:59):
more other people start hitting me up. But I mean
it's all God do because like literally the people that
God put into my life over the last two or
three years, I didn't understand it fully at the time
why they were coming into my life. But then it's
like slowly, just one by one, and I'm surrounding myself

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with godly people that lift me up, encourage me, I
lift them up, encourage them. There's actually a brotherhood. There's
actually people that I want to see them succeed. They
want to see me succeed. How can I help them?
How can they help? And just not surrounding myself with

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like negativity and just listening to praise and worship music
during the day, podcast sermons, whatever. It's just my vision
has just gotten a lot better and it's like I
can see the big picture, but also where God is
helping me stay home and just keep my nose down.
It's it's just been a blessing man now. Granted, like

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everything else, it's like I had the most profitable side
you know, business month of my life and got hit
out of the blue with like four hundred dollars worth
of like debt collector stuff. So it's like, I mean,
you know, you win some, you lose some. But yeah,
I just did video stuff all Saturday, and the both

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girls were sick, so we actually stayed home from church
on Sunday. Got to hang out with them though and then.
But you just life is going one hundred miles of men,
it feels like right now, but you know, just been
blessed man. I mean honestly, and again, I can't stress
it enough. Like I'm not trying to like brag or
do like a prosperity gospel or anything like that. It's

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just but God will take care of your needs, and
you know, you can be blessed and live a blessed life.
But you know, it's like a man, it's all because
of him, dude, Like there's not anything that I do
that's because of me anymore. And I'm just blessed man,
you know. Mm hm h Yeah, There's there's been times

(15:42):
where you know, I've actually kind of sat and thought
about it for you know, just from time to time,
like and what we've talked about this. If you're a
new listener, you know, go back and you can go
back and listen or whatever. But those have listened and
we've talked about this quite a bit. But like one

(16:03):
thing I've tried to get better about is like actually
praising Him during the blessed times and thanking him and
praising him during the struggles, because in the past, when
I was younger, I was real bad about when things

(16:23):
were clicking and firing off cylinders, not stopping to thank
God for how blessed I was and just being like,
you know, it's almost like my brain's like, oh, this
is how it's supposed to be. And then as soon
as something go wrong, I would stop and be like,
you know, God, just you know, and then that's when
I would pray, you know. And so I've really tried

(16:43):
to make it a point to like make sure to
thank Him during the good times. But like there's been
several times here lately where I'll just sit and think
and it's like I think about my family side business,
even work. I mean, I have a good day job
up and whatever, and just it's like I'll get to
thinking about it and it's like, dude, I'm just like

(17:05):
so unworthy, you know for you know, you think about
like what Jesus actually did for us on the Cross
and it's like and then I'm like looking, you know,
and my wife's sitting there, she's bouncing the baby on
her knee, my six year old running around. It's like
there's food of the fridge. We got two cars, you know,

(17:25):
they're not new or nothing, but it's like TV's on
powers working. And there's been times in my life where,
you know, like literally when I was leasing a truck
there for a little while over the road driving you know,
driving over the road and the truck driving thing. There
was times where when you're broke down or whatever and

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you still got that, you know at the time, two
thousand dollars a week truck payment or whatever it was.
You know. Uh, there was times where literally I would
just take like my finger into a jar of peanut
butter and eat it like that because I didn't have
any forks or silverware or nothing. And uh, you know,

(18:08):
like just I mean there was times where it was
like literally just various forms of peanut butter sandwiches, Like, dude,
I've put I mean peanut butter and hand peanutburg mayonnaise,
peanut butter and mud. I mean, anything you can put
together with peanut butter. I've tried it because it's like
it just you know, or like peanut butter and Vienna
sausages was like the basis of my diet there for

(18:30):
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
No no, but there's you know, back then at the time,
I think you could get a can of Vienna sausages
for like sixty nine cents straight protein.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
You know, I'm not saying that they're like just the
best tasting things in the world, but dude, I've had
some hard times before, you know, And so when I
sit around just look around and think about my life,
sometimes it's like, dude, I'm so unworthy. But you know,
it's just I think we serve a good, good God,

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and I think that you know, there are times where
you go through struggles, but I just I think that
we serve a good, good God and a great God,
and you know, he's a good father and a provider,
and I think if you just serve him and love him.
Your needs will be met and you will be content

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because I think when he makes you knew, your desires
become his desires, and when you start getting in tune
with that, you don't need as much, but you still
get blessed from time to time and you're just so
much more content because it's like, you know, everything that

(19:45):
you need is usually you know, a lot of the
times it's covered. So but yeah, it's just super blessed man.
But yeah, Now I had a busy weekend, had a
fun weekend, had a weekend where I made, you know,
a little bit of money and stuff, and it just
it was just all around was good man. I mean
literally it was like two three weeks span graphic design gig,

(20:08):
another graphic design gig, bigger graphic design gig. Uh, there's
one video, gig another video. I mean, it's just it literally,
It's like there was times where I'm like, man, I
would kill for some side money right now, and now
it's just like they're just popping up and it's just
I'm blessed man. Good.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I can tell you we've been praying for you, dude.
We pray for you every night. You and Ivy and
the kids, we do. I really appreciate the You're close
to my heart brother, so you're always on my mind.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
You know that's good, it does. Yeah, yeah, And I'm
I'm so thankful to have close friends because I mean,
I know, I pray for you guys a lot to
in the house and just different things. But you know,
it's nice to have people like close friends in your
life that actually pray for you and you pray for

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them and not like you know, when Chris tells me,
you know, if I tell him about something that's going
on and Chris is like, oh man, I'll be sure
to pray for you, it's like I know that that's
not word service. I know he's actually going to pray
for me. And those are the kind of people that

(21:20):
you need in your life. Like you know, like I said,
I'm just blessed, you know, I'm blessed like just all around,
you know, And but I really appreciate it. Like I said,
I pray for you guys, the Lord as well, and
just the whole house thing. And I know you're kind
of just like, hey, it's in God's hands. I'm done
worried about it, but uh, you know, I still try

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to pray for you guys.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
For that, I still go off that saying, though, you know,
I'm not worried about it through because I'm praying about it.
You know, if I was not praying about it, I
might be worried about it, but I'm not.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
You know, we we've we've just got to wait on
the Lord.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
And as frustrating as it is and as hard as
it can be to sit in idol in between chapters
like we are right now in our life, you know, seasons,
we're in between. We're not out of the old season,
but we haven't quite entered the new yet, and the
house is going to have itself for that to happen.
So we're waiting on God to bring about that new

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season in our life. And it's going to happen at
the exact moment it needs to happen.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And I'm comfortable with that. And that's the wonderful thing.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
About knowing you know, God and knowing Jesus, is that
I can be comfortable waiting because I know they'll they'll
come through.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
It's not my timing right now, it's theirs.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
We've done everything that we need to do that we
felt we're called to do, and we just keep trucking
on and we keep getting stronger in the world, and
we keep volunteering more at church and getting plugged in
and involved and making that friend group from godly people
as well that don't try to influence us, to influence
us to do things we shouldn't do. So yeah, I

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mean through it's I'm blessed as well. I mean I'm
not blessed with the House of the Cell, but that's okay.
We will be, I know we will be eventually. So yeah, ma'am,
it's well, we're gonna be okay. As long as we
have God on our side, we're good no matter what
comes anyway.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, like you said, you know, it's like my pastor,
doctor J. Thomas LeBorg said, if you're gonna if you're
gonna pray, don't worry. If you're gonna worry, don't pray.
Like you said, that's such a good motto to live by. Yeah,
So prayer requests, if you guys have any prayer requests,

(23:38):
feel free to you can. You guys can put them
in the chat if you want. We have started live
streaming these which we try to promote them or we
try to like let you guys know, but to be
honest with you, we don't know until about you know,
three or four o'clock Tuesday or Thursday most of the time.
But if you guys do have prayer request, feel free
to leave them in the chat. Feel free to send

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them to us message if you want to leave him anonymous,
you know, also email us at the Unreligious Podcast at
gmail dot com several different ways, but feel free to
get involved there. Prayer requests, let's see here. So for me,

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I'm trying to find bearing. Okay for me, continue to
pray for Garrett, which for those of you that if
you've listened for a while, Garrett's longtime listener, longtime supporter.
He is going through a hard time right now. They

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did find out that it is they believe the issues
with his loans, not his hearts, so that is good.
They're starting to narrow it in a little bit on
as far as you know, figuring out what's what there.
They still don't one hundred percent sure know, but they
think that something in the loans is causing the other

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issues with his heart and some other stuff. So you know,
just I guess we'll pray that. You know that the
doctors can be led in the correct direction and hopefully
get that squared away. But so, the good news is
there's own and in on the issue. Bad news is
he's been out of work for a little bit, so
prayers for that financial issues, assistic fibrosis could be a possibility,

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which if that's the case, not good. Why expect to
see for someone with assistic fibrosis, I believe is like
between thirty to forty, So definitely want to pray for that.
I also have a friend who I'm you know, I'm

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gonna leave it anonymous, but just pray for his wife.
She got some news that she, you know, may have
stage three cancer. They're gonna go get a second and
possibly maybe even a third opinion, but uh, you know,

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we're gonna, you know, keep praying for him on that
and uh yeah, so just you know, it's a rampant thing, man.
So all right, Well, and again, like I said, if
you guys are watching this later, listen to this later.
Do you have any prayer re quest, feel free to

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shoot him in either message, chat, whatever. If you guys
comment on this video, we'll see it eventually later. It
may take us, you know, a little bit of time
to get to him, but we will see them, and
if you guys want us to pray for anything, we'll
add it in other than that, Are you just go
a cover years when you pray?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh, I'll pray. I'll do the whole thing, dude, I'll
get everybody on here. Okay, Father, God, we are so blessed.
We're so blessed as your people.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Father.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
We know you love us so much, and we try
so hard to love you back, and as difficult as
it can be, Father, the closer you draw us to you,
and the more we give in and love you.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
The better our lives are. Father. Father.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
We always come to you with these requests and we
lay them at your feet, Father, and I know you
you hear them, and I know you answer them, not
always the way we want, not always the way we like.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
But the way that they should be.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Father, Your divine wisdom is perfect, and you know everything
that everybody needs.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Father. I want to start off by praying for Garrett. Father.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
He's a godly man. He he's in tro and you
know this. So we just pray that the doctors continue
to do their research and do what they've been trained
to do, and that they find what's wrong with Garrett
and we just pray and lift him up to you, Father,

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our brother in Christ, and we pray that that you
help the doctors find out what it is and it's
not anything terrible like cystic fibrosis. Father, that that it's
something that can be treated and he can still have
a long life and live a good life for you, Father,
the way you designed it.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Father.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I want to pray for him being out of work.
This is a difficult time for them financially, and I
just I pray that you you bless him financially some way, somehow. Father,
You always make a way. This is rough on anybody
to not only be facing the health issues, but to

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be facing the financial issues as well.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
It's so difficult. Father.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I pray that his heart is open to you and
his mind is open to you, Father, and I pray
you fill him with the Holy Spirit. I pray that
you lay your healing hands on him and heal him
of these ailments and let it be something easy to
take care of. Father, that the doctors can get him
back where he needs to be.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Father.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I want to pray for Drew's friend's wife. You know
what's going on with her. Father, I pray that you
also lay your healing hands on her, like only you
can do in your mighty name, with your mighty hand,
lay your heels on, your hands on her, and let
her heal. Father, let her.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Win this battle and fight this fight, and surround her
with your angels. Father.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Father, we want to pray for my niece. I know
she's having some complications right now, Father, and we just
pray for a good outcome, that it's nothing serious like
it used to be, that she's going to be okay.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Father. And I want to pray for her friends. Their father.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I'm not sure the details, Father, You know he had
something happened to him and now he's paralyzed from the
waist down. Father, and I just pray that you come
around that family and support them and let them lean
on you. Father, in this time of trial where their
whole lives are changed and everything they knew is different.

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I just pray that you send your angels to them,
comfort them, help them to persevere through these trials, Father,
and lean on you to get through them. You are
our source of strength.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Father. Father.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I want to pray for Audrey and I I want
to pray that you continue to work in our lives
and get us plugged in, and I pray that you
just help us to be patient and persevere through this.
The end of this chapter in our book that just
doesn't seem to end. Father, We know you have a plan.

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We know that everything you do is for our better
and for our good. Whether they're blessings or lessons, Father,
either way, they're always for our better.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Father.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
I thank you so much for this podcast. I thank
you for putting this on Drew and my heart to
do this, because not only are we hopefully helping other people, Father,
but we are helping ourselves.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
This is so good for us. We draw so close
to you, Father.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Father, I thank you for the blessings that you have
poured out on Drew and his family. And he's such
a god fearing man. Father, I just pray you continue
to make his cup overflow, shower him with grace and
mercy and his family. Father, he does so much work
for you, He's going to be such an amazing pastor.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Father.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
We love you, and we know that we can't get
through this without you, and without your love and your
grace and your mercy and Jesus, we could never be
doing what we're doing right now. Without you, we would
not be able to talk to the Father like we do.
So thank you Jesus for your sacrifice and everything you
went through just for us. We love you so much, Jesus.

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We played pray this in your name.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'm it a man. So while Chris is getting situated
and got to tea you up. This is part two
of his topic, Don't Judge Me, I'm receiving judgment with grace.
Last week we teed it up. We read it a

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little bit from Matthew. We basically talked about judging others,
how the Bible addresses judging others with a nuanced perspective.
And like I said, we read out of Matthew and
Luke t that up and it's a pretty good episode
as well. I encourage you guys go back and listen

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to that if you can. It's a night. Part two.
We're just gonna wrap up, you know, again Chris's topic
or whatever. Now, if you guys have any questions you
want to maybe pitch a topic or anything like that,
you guys again can email us at the Underligious Podcast
at gmail dot com. And uh yeah, I'll go ahead

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and let him. I think he's good and situated, so
we'll let him go ahead and take off.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, brother, we are ready to go on this and
before we roll, just would you do me a favor?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yes, I'm judging me, dude. I don't think it's right.
Come on, come on, I don't judge anybody, so you
shouldn't judge me. No, that's not the commercial. Well you
think you're better than me, huh, take me. That's good stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
So anyway, so we're gonna start off with Galatians. Okay
six to one continued from last week and sixty one
we read, brothers, if someone is caught in a sin,
you who are spiritual, should restore him gently, but watch
yourself or you also might be tempted. So here Christians

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are called to gently restore those who have fallen into sin.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Right. So if you notice it says you who are spiritual. Right. So,
if you con yourself a spiritual person.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Man or woman, kid, whatever you are, you have the
right to call out sin if you see it. But
you don't have the right to call out sin any
way you want to call it out. And God makes
that very clear in the Bible.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
You don't do that.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
You have to approach it with gentleness. And we talked
to believe last week about you have to discern it
is this person going to be receptive to my telling
them that I think they're doing something they shouldn't be doing,
or are they not.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Even a spiritual person themselves.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
If they're not spiritual, it's kind of hard to call
out sin because they don't believe in sin. They don't,
I mean, they believe in good and bad, but sin
to non believers is almost non existent. It's all I
did something bad. So we have to be able to
discern which people we need to be calling out and saying, hey,

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I think this is just the wrong path for you,
and which people that it's not going to do anything
but frustrate us.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Does that make sense? Okay, so we'll move on. Thank
that goes both ways to so like also first Peter
three point fifteen, I can't remem if we read this
last week or not. But if someone comes to you

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and they're asking you about like essentially the faith that
you have, or they're asking you you know, what makes
you sow whatever? First you know? First Peter three point
fifteen says, but sactify the Lord God in your hearts
and always be ready to give a defense to everyone
who asks you for a reason for the hope that

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is in you with meekness and fear. So again, like
you said, it's like, well, if you're trying to correct
a brother to set them back on the right path,
you have to do that out of a spirit of love.
But then also if somebody comes to you, you know, hey,

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like Chris, dude, listen, I love you, man, but like
I've seen you rip a tag off mattress the other day,
and like, technically that's against the law, brother, and we
should be falling the law. You know, Chris can't be
like way, man, You know, you just worry about your
own mattress. You know. It's like like in theory, if

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if that person is genuinely coming to you with a rebuke,
a correction, a opinion or whatever, technically we should also
receive that. So it kind of goes both ways there.
You know, you can't. You can't, Chris, you can't just
go ripping tags off mattresses. Nelly bud okay for the examples, Dude,

(37:31):
I'd be like, you can't steal a candy bar out
of the story mattress tag? Really? Oh man, I forgot that.
This is where my brain went. I don't know. I'm
this is like the latest we've ever recorded in an episode,
so that might get weird. And we're both a little delirious.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Man, we have been after that episode on Sin and
I do now that was a rough one.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
But no mattress.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Okay, so y'all don't be ripping the tags off your mattresses.
Anybody out there listening it doesn't know what that means.
It is actually illegal to do that. I swear Drew
is not making that up. It's really ill.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Think technically, maybe that's more for like the mattress store people.
But there's a bunch of I mean, you can't eat
prod chicken with a fork in Georgia. You know, there's
all those weird walls or whatever, something about not parking
a horse or something in Tennessee or I forgot, there's
all those weird little walls you're not social to break.
But anyways, anyway, so moving on here.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Get it back on, get it back on the rails.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Back, go out.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Okay, So we're gonna read scripture again. So First Corinthians
two fifteen. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things,
but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment. Okay,
the spiritual person is able to judge all things. This
suggests that there is a place for discerning between right
and wrong and for addressing sin, but it should be

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done with love and humility. So once again you see
that statement, a statement again spiritual, the spiritual man or woman,
you know it. Once again, this pertains to people who
are walking with Christ. He's talking to us believers, and
we are allowed to make judgments because we're supposed to

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know scripture, which means we're supposed to know right from wrong,
which means we have to discern and decide. Do we
approach this and bring scripture to it and approach this
person with this stuff or is it not? Is it
going to drag me down as well?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Is this going to turn?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Forgive it where I'm going to get angry because they're
not receiving what I'm saying, and they're getting mad because
they're not receiving what I'm saying, and then it just
turns into something it never was meant to be.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, and again you know a granted this is not Greek,
this is English, but like judgment, the definition is the
ability to make considered decisions or come to a sensible conclusion.
The second definition is a miss, misfortune or calamity view

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viewed as a divine punishment. But it's like when when
you're looking at the English language writing in a degree,
but like when you're looking at the English language, it's
like a because that word like judgment gets thrown around
a lot, right, So like, you know, the way that
I look at it is like there's a difference between

(40:33):
judging or passing a judgment and a spiritual correction. Which
we went over this during the Church I think it
was the Church Art series or one of them way
back almost a year. But so the way I look
at it is like, okay, a judge, right, none of

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us are the judge, right, God's the ultimate judge. So
it's like, okay, if is the judge, he is the
one who passes a judgment or verdict. So you have that.
So like the first thing you have to remember is like, Okay,
we're not the ultimate judge. That is up to God.

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Like all you can really do is point someone in
the right direction, pray for him, and let the Holy
Spirit lead in that particular instance. But the second version
of that is you know, like kind of like that
one versus like just passing a judgment call. Right, So
it's like, you know, you have a judge who passes
a verdict, and then you have making a judgment call

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kind of like what Chris was talking about earlier, and
then you have like spiritual correction, which is, you know,
if I love you, and you know Chris is out
here just ripping the tags off mattressses or you know whatever,
or if he's doing something more serious, like if he
if he's going out getting like just plaster drink every night,

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and then he's showing up to like the work may
or may not get you know, may or may not
be getting there late, could possibly get fired, or he's
getting plastered, and then he's hopping in the car and
driving down the road. It's like, well, if I love him,
then I'm aware that not only could he potentially hurt himself,
he could hurt someone else. Maybe he could lose his job.

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So like I, as a brother in Christ, should approach
him with love, gentleness, meekness and attempt to restore him.
Not like what I think, because I think it Drew
thinks it. But hey, man, like this is like biblical,

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you know, because I know if you keep going, you're
gonna lead on the path of destruction. But again, you
have to do that with love, gentleness and all that.
That's where people get get a lot of stuff. Stuff
is like you know, sooner repeat, you know, and it's like,
you know, you have to establish a relation. That's the

(43:10):
other thing too, man Like, you got to establish a
relationship before you start trying to speak into their life too.
But you know, I don't know if that makes sense,
but I think that it would be ill advised to
walk up to a total stranger, somebody you don't even know,
and say, I'm just telling you this out of love,
but did you know your sinning and breaking God's law.

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I don't know that would work out.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Too well in any situation, even if you did approach
it with love, because they don't know you, you don't
know them. Yeah, like you said, you have to, Yeah
you don't. I'm not going to walk into into Weigel.
Everybody in here needs to repent now. Yeah, you're all sinners.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
There was a Christian metal band that had a song
and I can't remember the name of the band or
the song. I think it was Excelling Is for Today.
It was the band, but they had this song that
started off like.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Oh, it's like whoa.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
But anyways, so point number three.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Okay, so get point number three. So in when we're
when we're judging people, okay, because we are as spiritual
people and spiritual leaders, we are called to discern and judge,
So next we need the need for humility and self reflection.
The Bible emphasizes the importance of examining our own lives

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before pointing out the fault of others. We are reminded
that God sees the heart and human judgment is often flawed.
Judging with pride, comparison or to be little another is discouraged.
So if you think we have to examine our own
lives before pointing out the faults of others, we brought

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up that scripture.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Gosh darn it, I can't remember, Matthew.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I think it was the plank in your eye right,
So once again, and we have to look at our
own lives for instance, Dude.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I'm so bad at this. I am so bad at judging.
I really am. Andrew.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
It's a battle for me, especially now that it's in
my face, now that we're doing a podcast on it.
And this is why we're doing it because it was
really all my It's just so hard because I don't
want to like it. For instance, comparison, right, Ah, you
see what Drew's wearing tonight, just a T shirt, ball cap.

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I mean, God, couldn't you dress up a little bit?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Dude? What is wrong? Now? I'm comparing you because I'm
in a button up shirt, right, So it's a comparison,
and it's judgment on comparison, and that ain't right. You're
being comfortable, dude. I almost threw a T shirt on tonight. Now.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I was just too running so late I ran in here.
But yeah, I mean that's comparison judgment. I was judging
you if I'm thinking that, and that is not right.
You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Judging with pride.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
You know. I pull up next to somebody in my
brand new Chevy Silverado high Country, right, and some dudes
in a beat up nineteen eighty two Ford Ranger next
to me that it's burned and running.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
I'm like, dude, it sucks to be you, too bad.
You don't got a truck like me.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
That's not right, dude, that's pride I'm proud of because
I've got a nicer truck than you and I don't
know that person's story.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, comparison is the illusion that you know, makes you
feel better that you had we had. We get the
illusion that we're somehow better than anybody else and really not.
You know, it doesn't matter. I mean, there's been just
people that I work with, just past jobs, currently, you

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know whatever. That's like. You know, you're like, oh, and
it's like I have to remind myself. You know, God
loves that person, therefore I should love that person. And
it's very horrid. And like you said, I mean, you know,
passing a judgment or judging others unfairly is something that

(47:10):
we all in our human nature is ingrained in us.
But also we have to fight against our human nature
like everything else. But now, next time you're driving and
somebody cuts you off, and you know, you're like, you know,
the wives are riding in the car and you're like,
oh man, they just cannot drive, and she's like, well
that's not very nice. Then you know, just look at

(47:32):
her and say, yeah, but I'm looking at his fruit.
I'm judging it by his fruit. Like I've got to
catch myself all day and here's what I've been doing.
And you may laugh at this. People listening me laugh
at this. I don't know, but I've caught myself where

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like I'll be driving down the road and it's thirty
five mile an hour and this person's doing fifteen, and
I'm like, okay, I'm starting to judge. Don't judge. Okay,
what if you know what? It's okay, it's okay this.
You know, I have to start talking myself into why
it's okay that this person is driving that speed instead

(48:15):
of judging them and yelling and screaming and saying, you idiot,
can't you read the speed limit sign? You know, it's
say every day, I'm going to do it twice a day.
It's the way scale. It's like, dude, it says maintain thirty.
But you know again, it's like, man, you know, who knows? Dude,
I don't. Maybe they're slowing me down for a crash.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Ahead, or you know, or I mean that's one of
my wife's things, babe.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
You never know.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Maybe you're being slowed down by God, because there's you're
going to get in a bad accident five miles down
the road, if you're in a hurry, if you're three
minutes earlier down the road. It might be you instead
of somebody else you don't know, and she's right, but
I don't want to accept that at the time. At
the time, I just want to be mad that somebody's
not driving the way that I drive, because everybody should.
How i'd right, that's not judgment, that's just honesty, right.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, I mean we shouldn't judge others unless they're going
slow in the left lane. I agree. I'm pretty sure
you said that.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Totally calls for judgment if you're if you're more than
three cars behind you and you're blocking the left.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Lane, yeah you need to get over. I'm judging you
at that point. But no, I think, like you said,
judging with pride comparison or belittling another. I think that
that's where again, there's difference between correcting a brother I
love and a you know, prideful comparison. Oh well, you

(49:43):
know I'm better than this person because I don't drink
or smoke or you know, do this or that or whatever.
You know, Uh, yeah, maybe you know I checked out
a you know, attractive woman at the grow Try store.
But hey, at least I'm not out here doing this

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or you know that that is pride like you said,
you nailed it. That is pride. That's where it's an issue.
Now this number four I really like, Yeah, yeah, number four,
judging with love and restoration as the goal when addressing
the sins of others. The aim should be restoration and reconciliation,

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not can condemnation or shame. Correction should be made with
gentleness and love, recognizing that we are all imperfect. That's
the goal, and it is not an easy one to achieve.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
I'm sure you will. You will concur with me on that.
It depends too. You know, we were talking about discernment.
You have to discern every person you that I know
of If I'm going to approach people, each person is
going to have their own way that I need to
approach them. Some people you have to be harsh with

(51:05):
and that's the only way they get it, and you
know they'll get through it without being mad. Other people
are sensitive and you have to approach with love and
kindness and like you know, like an infant baby. But
unfortunately you have to and that that is, you know,
the discernment that you have to have when you're approaching
people to call them out on their sin, you know

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what I mean?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, like you said, I think love and restoration. Restoration,
I think is the key because your goal shouldn't be
to like be like, oh, I need to show them
why they're wrong, even if like what they said or
diving or whatever is unbiblical. The goal is it to

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be like, oh, I'm going to show them why they're wrong,
and they you know like that. That spirit is where
that's where we get twisted a lot of times because
it's like, hey, biblically, yes, maybe they are wrong. But
if your goal is to like win an argument or

(52:14):
debate or whatever, then that's where you know, we have
to kind of check ourselves for sure. But I mean
love and restoration and also too, I mean, I guess
one thing I would add too is if you feel
like you need to say something to somebody, you feel
like the Holy Spirit's leading you on that, make sure
to pray and then also double check and read the

(52:40):
Bible on both sides, right, make sure that you feel
biblically sound, because there has been times where you know,
in my head, I'll be like you know, and then
I'll maybe go read something or think through it a
little bit and be like, well, you know, it's so
but restoration is the goal except I love that. Yeah.

(53:02):
And restoration and reconciliation is the reconciliation between you and
that person. Is it between that person and other person?
Is it between that person and God? The goal is
some kind of reconciliation there wherever they're having the issue,
where whatever is causing them to sin or do whatever
God has said not to do. You know, they need

(53:23):
to be eventually after restoration, they need to be reconciled
to God and they need to repent of that and
come clean about that. So yeah, I love the fact
that says restoration and reconciliation not condemnation or shame. You
should never make a person feel like they're beneath you
or anybody else because of their certain ways they do things,
or certain things that they do. Mean, there's none of

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us are good, No, not one. Bobble says that our
righteousness is as filthy rags you're again, I'm going to
quote doctor j. Thomas the Board, but he basically says,
your the best thirty minutes of your life. Your own

(54:07):
deeds can't even get you ten steps inside of heaven.
Like there's nothing you or your deeds can do to
get you in heaven, you know, so like we're we're
saved by faith through or were saved by faith and grace.
The works of your life is literally just kind of

(54:30):
evidence of your salvation. But a lot of people get
tied up in works. It's like, dude, I mean, you
can't earn your way to heaven. Yeah, you can't. You just.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Final point Okay, So final point number five examples of
judgmental attitudes judging based on appearances, wealth, or social status.
And I talked about that right the I got the
nice truck, they've got the beater.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
You know, I look better than they do.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
It's just, it's all it's wrong condemning others without understanding
the full context of their situation. And I do that
a lot too, using judgment as a way to feel
superior to others. I don't know that I do that one,
but I definitely do the condemning others without understanding full
context of their situation. And my wife, bless her heart,

(55:22):
she calls me out on that all the time. I'll
see somebody, I'll make a judgment. Call should be like,
but you don't know what their situation is, you don't
know where they're at in life. You don't know their circumstances,
and she's one hundred percent right, and I do it,
and then she calls me out on it, and I've
got to say, Yep, you're right.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
So, dude, I've got to do a point now where
when I see somebody and I start to feel judgment
coming on, I have to stop myself and I seriously
do this.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Now, I look at that person I'm about to judge,
and I think, you know what, I love that person.
I don't know their story, I don't know their background,
I don't know their future, but I love them because
they're one of God's children. They are another human being.
And Dude, when I do that, judgment falls off like
it's out. I don't even feel like.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I did before I did that when I was starting
to another one too is I'm just I'm gonna come
up with a druism because I don't know if this
is a real thing or not, but like reverse judgment,
like reverse judgmentalism where you look at someone else as

(56:33):
like they have it all together and then you judge yourself.
Especially at church, that happens a lot. You look at
somebody and you think, man, you know, they just have
this and now they got all their stuff together, and
you know, like I wish I was like that, or
I wish you know, or sometimes like we, you know,

(56:54):
we as humans can look at maybe someone else's marriage
and be like, man, they just have everything together and whatever,
and it's we kind of we reverse it and we
judge ourselves based on others, not necessarily just you know
that that is just as bad as well, because like dude,
I mean you see it all the time. You know,

(57:16):
these like social influencers, these married couples that do the
pranks and this and that whatever, and then they have
getting divorced or you know, you had that case a
few years back where uh, the one girl and the
dude were on the cross the country trip and then
she ended up being missing. And it's we do that
a lot where it's not always just about judging others,

(57:37):
it's also sometimes about judging yourself. And you know, because
I mean I could go down through here too, and
uh like literally we could, we could reverse this whole
thing real quick even and basically say, you know, uh again, comparison,

(57:59):
comparing yourself to other people in a negative way, belittling
yourself and discouraging yourself, you know, and then basing your
you know, judging on your own appearance. Maybe you walk
in somewhere and you think you're under dressed, or everybody
else is more dressed, or they're better off than you,
or maybe you don't have enough wealth, or maybe you

(58:22):
don't have enough social status. You know, judging others is
because you think they're more well off than you, without
knowing the full com I mean, you could really flip
this whole thing around. But so to.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Hold on, I love that because you're one hundred percent oh, Drew.
I hadn't thought of it that way. I was just
thinking about always judging others. But man, I don't know
about you, but I can be really hard on myself.
I think I could be my biggest critic because I
do that all the time. So you're right, well, even
even like this last note here, judgment is a way

(59:00):
to feel superior or others. If you flip that around,
you're judging yourself in a way to where you feel.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Inferior. Inferior. Yeah, that was the word I was thinking of,
inferior to others. I mean, you know that that's a
whole in theory could be a whole other part. But yeah,
I mean I've done that a lot in my past.
Like you said, there's been times where maybe I'm the
guy in the beat looking at the guy with the
high country or or whatever. So yeah, so you know,

(59:30):
I think it's it's good for, you know, to examine
on both sides.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
So some humility there, yeah, and also judge ourselves as humility.
But sometimes we can pour it on a little too
thick and really put ourselves down there in the in
the depression area.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
So we don't want to do that. We have a
God that.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Loves us, so we shouldn't be into the depression area.
So let's do the final insight for don't Judge Me.
The Bible calls for a balanced approach to judging others.
It warns against harsh, self righteous judgment, while also acknowledging
the need for discernment and addressing sin with love and humility.

(01:00:10):
We need to discern between those that will hear us
and those that might drag us down. The ultimate goal
is to love others as Christ loves us, recognizing that
we are all imperfect and in need of God's grace.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Amen. Yeah, excellent topic. I really feel like we we
put a very nice bow on this this these couple
of episodes, something that's very hot topic issue. So I
think you did a great job preparing. I also shout
out to Lend Tennessee Football two four seven and Audrey.

(01:00:51):
You guys sent messages in the chat. We appreciate that.
As this grows, you know, maybe we'll start leaving a
little bit more time at the end and maybe answer
a couple of questions and stuff like that. But awesome series.
I will if what we're gonna do next. But at
the same time, I'm still going back and forth on

(01:01:12):
exactly which direction I want to go. But uh, you know,
next week, you guys find out it'll just be complete
shot in the doors. We always give you a heads
up and you always kind of know what we're thinking
about or what we're gonna bring up and talk about.
So Drew's gonna throw a surprise bag at you. I'm
I'm anxious to see what he comes up. Yeah, I

(01:01:33):
mean there's a few different directions we could go. Me
and Chris is gonna talk a little bit more and
figure it out. But I mean I have a book
of topics essentially that I can pull but uh, you
know this, It's just one of those weird things where normally,
like as soon as I wrap up, I'm like, okay,
I want to do that next And then there's times

(01:01:53):
where stuff pops out and for some reason, nothing's popped
out at me yet. So but we'll we'll have that
ready to go for next week. But other than that,
I hope you guys have enjoyed this series on don't
judge me as much as I have. We're like, let's see,
next episode will be seven away from the year mark

(01:02:15):
as far as like you know, per week, so we're
getting there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
But that's all, well, I might need a sabbatical after
a year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Dude, this, I mean it's a grind man. Uh yeah,
I don't know, maybe any and Chris will take like
a month off and then come back or which is
terrible like business advice, I guess from the standpoint of
like running podcasts like that's just you know. But at
the same time, it's like, I don't know, maybe well,
because I mean it's like, hey, we gotta tell you vacations, right,

(01:02:46):
so you do maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Finding every week for almost a year now, I think
we could take a week maybe two off. I mean
we'll see, we'll see how it goes. We may get
fired up and God made light a fire on us
telling us nope.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
You know, you know, you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
Know, maybe I was thinking about this, Maybe we'll do
like a no maybe we'll do like an episode or
two of like just a no topic episode where we
literally just sit down and fire from the hip and
just talk.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
You know, I was sitting there thinking about that. I
was like, man, you know, these topics and stuff are good,
but I'm like, it almost be kind of just ever
once in a while, just sit down, a fire from
the hip and just go with it, you know, down dude.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
That's kind of when we first started this podcast and
we were coming up with topics, you and I weren't
doing the research that we do now. I mean, we
were doing some, but we were both just basically having
conversation about it. And now we've done we're getting into
these deep dives and getting scripture out here and what
God says about what we did that beginning, but not

(01:03:46):
as much. But yeah, I agree, I could totally see
us doing just to sit down and shoot from the
hip and just see where it goes type of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Yeah, Like, you know, at least maybe once a month,
just do a fire from the hip or something. Yeah,
well we'll see what happens, but we're definitely out of time.
That's all I go. I think that's all Chris has
got so other than that, you had listened to the
Unreligious podcast. I am Big Drewskie and I am Chris,

(01:04:13):
and we will catch you all next week. Take it easy.

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