Betrayal: The Brian Davis Murder Case

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In this episode of *Unspeakable*, KJ delves into a horrific case from Louisiana involving betrayal and murder, centered around Robin Davis and her best friend Sissy. Kelly explore the dynamics of Robin's troubled marriage to Brian, punctuated by their decision to remain legally married amid struggles stemming from Brian's health issues.  As she recount the tragic events leading up to Brian's disappearance and subsequent discovery, Kelly analyzes the inconsistencies in Robin's narrative, her interactions with law enforcement, and the unraveling of her financial motives tied to significant life insurance policies. The chilling end to this one will leave you unspeakable.

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Timestamps
08:36 The Insurance Scandal
11:24 The Day of Disappearance
16:24 A Dead Body is Found
21:36 Investigating the Scene
38:09 Evidence of Deception
42:34 The Staged Crime Scene
50:27 The Life Insurance Bombshell

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell
stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are
so shocking that many are left wondering how is this
even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,
and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

(00:28):
dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so
evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning, Unspeakable as intended

(00:52):
for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm
not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all, it's
kJ You're back for anothers of unspeakable, and I'm bringing
you straight to my state, the great state of Louisiana.
Where are my people from Calcashue Parish? Where y'all at?
I know I got some Calcashuians that listen to this.

(01:13):
I know I do because they reach out to me
and they talk to me. But and my stepsister lives
there too, So shout out out in the Calcashue. But
this parish, if you've never been here before, this parish
is just one of the ones that you drive through
and you feel like the people there are all just
good folks. I'm dead serious too. It's like something out

(01:35):
of the movies. It's one of those places where the
bread and butter of that area is chemical and the
refining industries. And one major component of that local economy
there is they have an industrial airpark which does like
aircraft refurbishment and maintenance, and so it's just like a
bunch of hard working men and women that are earning

(01:55):
their keep. You know, casinos too. Casinos are other large
development of that area. And matter of fact, I posted
some pictures on my Patreon recently of me at one
of those casinos right there in Calcashue Parish, and most
recently it was that Brett Young concert that I went to.
So if you're on my Patreon and you saw me
on there, that's where that was. And I also may

(02:17):
or may not. I cannot confirm nor deny whether I
attended a presidential event there in the past years, and
I may or may not have been interviewed by the
local news station there. Out of everyone in the area,
they picked me. So you know, been there a time
or two. And the port of Lake Charles is there.
It's only thirty four miles from the Gulf of Mexico,

(02:37):
and Lake Charles is also the proud home of McNeese
State University. So I'm trying to give you some points
here if you're not familiar that maybe you could hone
in on where I'm talking about. And as as you
can likely imagine, there there are endless miles of rivers
and streams with boating and fishing everywhere. People enjoy hunting.
Whether it's duck or dove, quail, rabbit, it doesn't matter.

(03:00):
It's just another piece of sportsman's paradise. And this little
piece of paradise was also the home of Robin Davis
and her family. Now, Robin had been married to a
man named Andrew Little, and the two of them produced
two children, a son named Andrew and a daughter named Kelsey. Time, though,

(03:20):
would take a toll on this marriage, and they decided
to go their separate ways. Kind of. They kind of
went their separate ways because Andrew had a horrible back
and everyone who knew him knew how bad his back was,
so Robin had carried the medical insurance for the family forever,
and even with an impending divorce, they both recognized that

(03:43):
this would have been a huge problem for him. Just
because the marriage didn't work out didn't mean that they
absolutely hated one another, and so his back troubles she
recognized and he recognized as well, were so bad that
there was no way he would be able to afford
metal insurance on his own being unemployed. This is why,

(04:04):
even though they went their separate ways sorta, they remained
legally married, so Andrew would be able to keep quality insurance.
Now this would last just eight years, because Andrew would
be tragically killed in a car accident in two thousand
and eight. Four years prior to Andrew's death, though, Robin

(04:27):
met a new man and she was smitten with this
new guy. His name was Brian, and from the time
that they met, they were inseparable. Robin, if you're looking
at her, looks like every middle aged woman you see
shopping at Walmart. I'm not even playing with you. And
if you go look at the pictures I post, you'll say, yup,
she nailed it. I don't even have to say any
more than that. She looks like every single woman shopping

(04:50):
at Walmart. She's got an average build of a woman
her age. She has this yellow blonde hair and it's
in that really short, kind of stacked back haircut with
a little bit of a longer bang in the front
and she kind of pulls down those two little side
pieces in front of her ears. She has these blue eyes,
and her skin looks a bit weathered from the sun

(05:13):
my opinion looking at her, which is just my opinion,
but it's probably from time spent fishing and swimming and
someone who's just been raised in the South and been
outdoors a lot. And she also has kind of a
little bit y'all, don't come after me when I say this.
I'm just being honest, okay, But she has a little
bit of a neck waddle that kind of dangles a
little bit, and it's not huge, but it is pronounced

(05:34):
enough for me to mention it so you can get
the full picture of what Robin looks like now. Brian,
Brian's a big dude, and when I first saw him,
I almost thought that he was similar to Jerry Springer's
bouncer back back in the day in his show. You
remember Steve Wilcos, y'all remember him, He kind of made
me think of him. Brian is completely bald and a

(05:54):
solid dude. If you're looking at him. He too had
blue eyes. He often sported a goat facial hair, and
he had nice straight teeth, but he had a prominent
gap between the top two on the top. Nothing wild,
just noticeable when he smiled. And he was ten really
tan actually, and you can just tell by looking at
him that he is an absolute outdoorsman. They were both

(06:18):
in their forties and that's not old. I'm learning that,
you know why, because I just turned forty, and I'm like, man,
looking back on this. When I was younger, looking forward,
I thought it would take forever, and hell, I just
popped right up at forty. But they were both in
their forties two and definitely adults, but they had a
whole lot of life left to live. They dated for

(06:39):
four years when Brian finally popped the question to Robin
and she happily said yes. So they got married in
two thousand and eight, after the death of that first
husband that she was still legally married to. Now this
was Brian's third marriage, Robin's second. Both Robin and Brian
were working class people. They both held which both actually

(07:01):
were in the insurance business. Robin, though, had been fired
a year after getting married because she got wrapped up
in a situation that she didn't actually take part in
per se. But hm, I'll tell you what happened, you
decide what you think about it. So she worked for
Union National Life Insurance where her best friend, also named Robin,

(07:25):
but I will refer to as Cissy because that was
her nickname. She worked there too. Now, if you've heard
this story before, I want you to know that every
other person in America apparently never looked at any of
the actual documentation of this crime because both women in
this In this case, both women were named Robin. A

(07:48):
lot of times you'll hear Sissy referred to as Carol,
but I'll let you know that they both were legally
named Robin. But in this story, when I'm telling it
to you, I'll call Robin as the wife and then Cissy,
which was Robin's best friend, and they enjoyed working together,
and everyone knew these two ladies were tied at the
hip okay, best friends of life BFFs. It was discovered though,

(08:13):
by the company that Cissy was believed to be embezzling funds,
and after a thorough investigation, she was fired in March
of two thousand and nine. Now, while Robin was never
accused of embezzlement herself, Robin was terminated just one week
after Cissy because the company believed that Robin knew about

(08:33):
Cissy's embezzling but just failed to speak up. So you
can say what you want about it, but considering how
tight these two women were, I personally feel like she
knew about it too and just wasn't saying anything, And
I think that being fired for that is a reasonable,
a reasonable, reasonable thing to do. After her firing, Brian

(08:54):
was still working. He never quit working, and he was
the one that was making ends meet for the couple. Now,
Brian worked as an insurance premium collector from Union National
Life in Lafayette and made a decent living there, but
it wasn't anything extravagant. Basically, Brian's role was to physically
go door to door or go to homes of the

(09:15):
policyholders and collect their payments. So they would hand him
cash or check or money orders, but he would physically
go collect those premiums. And this did have him in
sketchier parts of town, but he could handle himself. He
was a bigger guy. He felt confident in what he did,
and he was also known to carry a weapon with him,
either on his person or in his car. He always

(09:37):
had that weapon should some type of safety issue arise.
Brian originally was born in New Orleans, but he grew
up in Independence, Louisiana. And if you are kind of
looking on a map, this is going to be near Hammond,
Louisiana and the Tickfall area if you're not from here,
but maybe you know those areas. And he turned out
like damn near every man that I know. I'm not kidding.

(10:00):
He was an age an avid fisherman. He loved the
great outdoors and in his spare time, he liked to
sing karaoke, He played golf, and he participated in competitive shooting.
I mean shit, if I had not already told you
this man's name, I'm telling you right now. The description
sounds like my own dad. Okay, my dad's name is Chuck, though,
so whew, he's not in my story. There's no Chuck

(10:22):
in this story. So shout out, daddy if you're listening.
But this story ain't about you. Now. Robin and Brian
were living their days and living their lives day to day,
yet they always made time to spend with one another
when they could. When Brian wasn't working, they did like
to go spend some time together. So where they were

(10:43):
in life. When this story really takes place is that
Brian was hoping in the really really near future to
buy a boat of his own. He was already shopping
around and he could not wait to make that jump
into being an owner of a boat. So in the
morning of Monday, June twenty ninth, two thousand and nine,
Brian and Robin had big plans. He left for work

(11:05):
early that morning, and he drove their Trailblazer to work
because they also had a Honda, but the Honda was
having wheel trouble, so he left early around or he
went to work, I'm sorry, he went to work early,
and then he left work early as well and came
back home around eleven am to pick up his wife Robin,

(11:26):
where they went boat shopping together in Lake Charles. And
this was something Brian was ecstatic to be doing. I mean,
that's why he played hooky and left work early to
really go pick out this boat. Then they went to
a second place called Jerry's Marine in Sulfur, Louisiana. The
two of them got back home around two or three
that afternoon, where Brian decided to switch back from the

(11:47):
Trailblazer into the Honda before heading to Beaumont to keep
boat shopping. So when they came back from boat shopping
and switched the vehicles, Robin had a bunch of airin
that she needed to run. So the plan was for
him to go continue boat shopping, and she jumped in
the Trailblazer to head off, you know, in the safer

(12:09):
of the two vehicles, since that Honda was supposedly having
that wheel trouble. So she went in the Trailblazer out
to go do her thing, and he left in the
other car to go to Beaumont. Her errands that she
was running were very small, practical errands. She had to
go grocery shopping. She said she was going to go
get an oil change, and when she got home, she
just waited for Brian to get back from his shopping trip.

(12:33):
But that day turned into evening and Brian wasn't back
at the house, so she got a little nervous, you know,
where is he? She kind of was pacing back and forth,
and then evening turned into night and Brian still was
not back home, so she attempted to call Brian, but

(12:54):
the call went straight to voicemail. Now he was talking
boats and there was also some bad weather that had
hit the area, So maybe he left for home and
he had hit some bad weather and then that had
him delayed. So in her mind, you know, maybe he
was talking boats so he wasn't answering, and then when
he got back in the car, like I said, bad weather,

(13:16):
so it slowed him down a bit. When he never
came home though, into the wee hours of that next morning,
Robin got really upset and so she decided to call
police and report him missing. Unfortunately, though we all know this,
Brian's an adult, and because there were no suspicious circumstances
following his disappearance or her thinking he was missing, she

(13:37):
was going to have to wait until that twenty four
hour mark to make the report. So up all night
and stressed out. The first thing the next morning, which
would have been a Monday, Robin jumped on the phone
with Brian's work and was asking his coworker and district manager.
His name was David Gizardo. She asked him, Hey, have
you seen Brian? Last taw him going out to the

(14:00):
boat shop. He never made it back home? Did he
just drive into work? But no one had seen him
and he hadn't called into work either. David was like,
I haven't spoken to him, he didn't call in, which
is weird, and really he was of no help to Robin.
So that day came and went, and finally that twenty
four hour mark hit. So Robin did as she was told.

(14:20):
She called the police back again and they came out
around four point thirty that afternoon, and that's when Officer Chatman,
not to be confused with Chapmen like producer Jimothy, this
is Officer Chatman. He took the report. Brian was not
located and no one was able to get in touch
with him. So, you know, at this point, it really

(14:41):
did seem like there was a problem, and all Robin
really could do was hope and pray. That's all that
was left to do. Not many knew this next little
tidbit of information though, and it was definitely something that
was in the back of Robin's mind. Brian had made
an indiscretion in their marriage. Previously, Robin had learned just

(15:02):
a few months earlier, in about the month of March,
that Brian was having an affair. The woman's name was
Fanny Deets and she was a coworker of Brian's. Now,
both Fanny and Brian were married, So you can imagine
the total frickin' shit show that erupted whenever this little
rendezvous came to light. Well, not someone just to take

(15:26):
it on the chin. Robin, when she found out, was pissed,
and she went up to the workplace and she confronted
Fanny right then and there and told her you better
stay away from my husband. Her words, though, were nothing
compared to Fanny's husband's words, because when he found out,
he was much more aggressive in his response. He not

(15:47):
only showed up to the place of business, but he
was threatening to beat Brian's ass in front of everybody.
It got pretty heated. He also made it very clear
that he had plans to do everything in his power,
anything that he could to get Brian fired from his job.
So Robin wasn't sure in the back of her mind
if Brian had really run off with Fanny, and she

(16:10):
wasn't sure should I be mad right now or should
I be scared? Because if Brian is seriously missing, then
I want to be sad. But if you ran off
with this other woman, I'm fucking mad, you know. But
she's kind of in this little midway of not quite
knowing what to do and then another day and night
would pass with no word from Brian. But on Tuesday,

(16:32):
July first, a dead body would shake up the people.
Near Big Lake Road. Someone was out testing the off
road capabilities of a jeep and they were driving in
this not so common area of this Big Lake Road
where he came upon the body of a deceased white
male next to a Honda Accord. So deputies were called

(16:54):
out and when they responded to that scene, they sure
enough found the victim deceased on the ground next to
the vehicle. So at first glanced when they were looking
at the scene, it looked like the man was in
the midst of changing a tire when something happened. The
car's trunk was popped open, the doors were all open,

(17:15):
and the car was jacked up on a jack. So
it was clear that this man was in no way
dead by because of being hit by a car while
he was changing the tire. Nor was this natural causes
such as a heart attack. No, that wasn't the case either.
This had to be the result of foul play because

(17:36):
the victim had been shot four times. No one shoots
themselves four times in a suicide, and certainly not in
the middle of changing a tire. The man had been
shot three times in the chest and one time in
the head. His clothing was amiss too, and the detectives

(17:58):
took note of this. His belt was unbuckled and his
shoes were off, and then one sock was also off,
So the question became, had he been getting undressed while
he was killed? Investigators just weren't sure about it. So
detectives looked around and they were able to locate one

(18:20):
live round next to the vehicle. Live round meaning it
had not actually been shot out of the gun, if
you're unfamiliar with that terminology. So the bullet was on
the ground, but it was not a fired bullet, and
it wasn't a casing of a bullet. It was a
live round. And this spoke to the investigators at the
scene who were trying to reconstruct what happened. Detectives felt

(18:41):
like this meant maybe the shooter wasn't very familiar with
the firearm that they were using. Why did they think this?
I want to explain this to you. If someone isn't
familiar with all of the safety functions of a particular weapon,
it's likely that a person might pull a trigger to
shoot but it it clicked or you know, nothing happened.

(19:05):
So the shooter then racked the weapon and then it
ejected a live round. They realized the issue, then fixed
it quickly, and then began actively shooting. Well, this is America,
and I'm gonna tell you something, I don't care what's
written in a report. I still think we as individuals
have a right to look and scrutinize and think about

(19:27):
a situation. And it just didn't sit right with me.
I didn't like the thought process that the investigators had
on why that live round was there, and it bothered
me so much. Now, granted, I'm gonna tell you this,
I'm not a crime scene expert, but I do know
basic weapons function, okay, And I just the way they
were explaining it in the report, I just didn't agree

(19:47):
with it. And I think that we all have a
right to disagree. And I wanted to think about it more.
If if the gun was racked, okay, and the person
who racked the gun was so unfamiliar with it that
they had to figure out the issue, then Brian, who's
known to shoot his own weapons and to always carry
a weapon, he would have heard that. He would have
heard the weapon rapped, and they're just to me, would

(20:10):
not have been enough time to assess how to fix
the weapon and then shoot him again before he turned
around and noticed or heard what was happening. They just
didn't make sense to me. So someone pointed a gun
at him, maybe he was down changing the tire. They
tried to pull the trigger, it didn't work, so they
racked the gun. The live round came out. Then they

(20:30):
were able to look and then fix the safety and
then start shooting. I don't know, it just didn't play
out to me like that. So I did what I
would hope anyone who maybe had some questions did, and
that is I'm just not going to be the podcaster
who repeats what she reads. I refuse to do that.
I try to think and really assess information about crimes.

(20:51):
So I called a good friend of mine in law
enforcement who has worked many homicides and is a firearms
a really good firearms person, and we discussed it, and
this is what we came up with, and we both
agreed that this is what we think happened. We don't
think a safety was on I think there was never
a safety that was on on the weapon. The shooter

(21:13):
thought the gun didn't have a round in the chamber.
That's what I think happened. So the shooter grabbed the gun,
wrapped it real quick, but that expelled the unspent round
that was already in the chamber, and then started shooting
upon the realization, before Brian could even realize what happened.
That would just take seconds, and you wouldn't have to

(21:34):
be familiar with the weapon, you know what I'm saying.
You wouldn't have had to go think through this whole process, regardless,
And I hope I've explained well what I'm trying to say,
but regardless, that is my opinion based on the things
that I saw and the things that I read. But
it's up to you. You can believe what you want
to believe. None of us were there, So regardless of
whatever you or I think or believe, none of us

(21:55):
were there. The consensus was that the shooter was standing
over the victim that was over when the shooter shot
him in the back, and then as a natural reaction,
the man would have turned and faced the source of
being shot, and then two more times in the chest
he would get at boom boom, and then a kill
shot directly into the head. This would have taken mere seconds,

(22:17):
but seconds filled with brutality and murder on the mind.
This was no accident for any reason, and an astute
investigator also noted something else. The victim's hint of accord
wasn't muddy. It was not muddy at all, matter of fact,
and this was really important to investigators because that would
mean the vehicle had to have arrived at the scene

(22:41):
where the man was killed before it had begun raining
on that Sunday, and this was important to investigators. The
meteorology report from the Lake Charles Airport confirmed that the
rain began around three forty five pm and it lasted
until seven pm that night, so this helped to establish
a relative timeline of the latest he could have arrived

(23:04):
at the location before being shot. There was no way
on this road where this car was parked that he
would not have mud all over it if he had
started driving it after the rain had started. So once
the outside of the scene was processed, detectives then decided
to move inside of the vehicle, so pulling the registration

(23:25):
from the vehicle, the owner of the Honda was listed
as none other than Robin Davis, who, after a brief
check was found to have just reported her husband, William
Brian Davis missing just a day prior. Police were also
able to locate a driver's license in the car and
it was in fact Brian's driver's license. Now, he couldn't
be identified one hundred percent as her husband Brian exclusively

(23:48):
until further testing was done, but for sure the IDs
matched and it sure did look like it was Brian.
But until then, the coroner was called and he would
come to pick up the body, and eventually an autopsy
was done by doctor Terry Welke, and he estimated that
the body's time of death was sometime after twelve noon
on Sunday, June twenty ninth. Reports would eventually come back

(24:11):
and based on the dental records as well as some
unique tattooing that were on the body, that this was
in fact Brian Davis. Whoever did this meant business and
never wanted Brian to walk or talk again, So doctor
Welkee ruled it actually could be doctor Welk as well.
But I've heard it both ways, So what do you
all want me to say? I'm just gonna say welky

(24:33):
and if I'm wrong, a Weelkie bad joke, all right,
So doctor Welke ruled Brian's death was absolutely a homicide,
and so this meant investigators had work to do. They
had a lot cut out for them. But their next
step was, unfortunately, to go break the news to his wife, Robin.
So a detective Brent Young, not to be confused with

(24:54):
the concert I attended. Brent Young was there when the
sad news was broken to Her response was visceral, dry heaving,
eventually vomiting, lost control. Basically, the love of her life
was gone and she was never going to see him again,
and police looked on with pity as she processed the

(25:16):
gravity of what had just been told to her. They
gave her some time, and once she was able to
catch her breath and gather herself, police needed her to
answer some questions as best she could, considering the circumstances
that she was under. In the emotions that she was feeling,
Robin was able to power through and she was able
to be helpful to those investigators asking those questions, Starting

(25:39):
with his plans for the last day that she had
seen him, Robin said that he was supposed to go
boat shopping in Beaumont. She said that he had been
scrounging away little bits of money here and there, and
he had saved up seven hundred dollars towards this new boat.
Whenever she was asked does Brian have any enemies, she
was very honest with them and she told them, Look,

(26:00):
there had been an affair between Brian and Fanny at
his work. Brian's husband was pissed. His name was Shane,
and Shane was very much an enemy after the interaction
that they had had. So now investigators wondered, is it
possible that Brian's death was related to this affair? You
certainly wonder when cheating is involved and then someone ends

(26:23):
up debt. We all know that that's one of the
biggest motives of murder is sex. So police extended their condolences,
They thanked Robin for her time, and then they left
her there to grieve and to process everything. They had
way more work to do. They had people that they
wanted to go talk to as this dragnet seemed to
widen in potential suspects and people they needed to speak to,

(26:44):
and the top of that list was obvious Fanny and
her husband Shane. So through the magic of the Internet,
I can tell you that I was interested in the
fact that Shane looks similar to Brian in his most
recent pictures. Shane is a man's man. He's a tall fella,

(27:05):
clean shaven head, and he had a long go tee.
Fanny got a type, y'all. I hate to say that,
but Fanny got a tight Fanny has short brown hair,
she has really thin eyebrows, and she has a pretty smile.
Both of them outward appearances, they seem to be nice people,
where Fanny may have been someone who had just got

(27:28):
caught up in a situation that should have never happened.
But I guess they worked together and things had escalated. Regardless.
Police had questions. As they questioned them, Fanny was completely upfront.
She confirmed that she and Brian had had an affair
for about a year and a half, but it had
ended back in March of two thousand and nine when

(27:48):
Robin confronted her. When asked about shame, she said, yes,
he absolutely confronted Brian, but he never threatened him. That's
a bit of a discrepancy from what others had said.
She was also willing to show detectives their quote unquote
spot that they would often meet up when they were
having their little rendezvous, which was Henry Pew Boulevard, which

(28:10):
coincidentally runs into Big Lake Road near Calcashue Point Landing,
which is where Brian's body was found. Brian's body was
found less than a mile from that Calcashu Point Landing.
A look at Fanny's cell phone records showed that she

(28:30):
was in the Iota and the Crowley area on June
twenty ninth, which would have been a few exits away
from where Brian's body was found. Interestingly, though her phone
records showed no activity between nine twenty eight am and
four fifty six pm, this would have given her time

(28:51):
to possibly be involved in this murder. The exits, though,
were pretty far apart, and she would have definitely needed
help to get from point O point B in all
the time frames that were being set. Assumptions would be
the man scorned would have been the one to help
her too. I think we could all agree that her
husband would likely be the one to help her because

(29:12):
he's the one who's pissed. Her husband, Shane's phone records
showed that he was not even in the Lake Charles
area at all on June twenty ninth, but again, there
was a gap of several hours between any phone calls
by him, and that included text messages too. He had
to call at two point fifty pm and then there

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was a nothing, zero, zilch on his phone until he
got a text message at ten point fifty four pm.
So some large gaps in these phone records. So needing
more information to determine their actual locations established their alibis
if they were true or not. The police went to

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Shane's work where he claimed to be the whole time,
and lo and behold, Shane was telling the truth. Shane's
boss even verified that Shane was at work the entire
day in question and was never Ever he would have
never had the opportunity to go and come back and
to have committed this crime. So while this path to
Brian's murder started out looking like the typical affair turned murder,

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it simply wasn't the case. It couldn't have been because
of their respective locations and the time frames and some
other things that were just really detailed down into the minutia.
It's boring and I didn't get into it, but they
didn't do it. They couldn't have. On July ninth, about
a week later, police were no closer to solving this
case than they were when they started, and that has

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to be a sick feeling. I mean, within the first
forty eight you want to have a really, really good lead.
So detectives asked Robin for permission to search their home
as well as the vehicles, just to see what's going
on in there, and she said absolutely, you can check
whatever you want. Even her son Justin helped police and
they were able to locate a box of brian ammunition

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in the Trailblazer. That wasn't strange though, because this was
the car he usually used, and the ammo that was
in there was nine milimeters hydra shock rounds, and this
is one of the most popular self defense ammunitions on
the market, used by law enforcement and gun enthusiasts. I'm
not saying it's popular amongst just the average joe, but

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certainly people who like to shoot a lot and law
enforcement they'll use those hydra shock rounds. So it made
sense because Brian was an average shooter that this he
would carry those rounds because a nine milimeter again is
also a popular weapon of choice for people who carry
I mean I personally carry a Compact nine, a little
small one. Her name's tiff By the way, if you're curious,
her name's Tiffany because she's that Tiffany blue. We call

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her tiff. I name my weapons. I don't know if
you do, but it's personal. She's gonna save my life.
We might as well be friends. But nothing much else
was found in terms of evidence or obvious red flags.
And Robin also gave her formal stay that same day,
and she basically repeated the same thing that she had
said days before. She mentioned that they went boat shopping together.

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She said that they stopped at a Kroger to get
Brian's daughter, her name was Bailey, to get her some
soup because she was sick, and that she needed to
get something to eat and drink. Now, Robin's best friend,
who I told you, was also named Robin, but people
call her Carol, but her nickname is Sissy. To be specific,
she went by the name Sissy. She was Robin Saltzman

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versus Robin Davis. Now, she was there absolutely one hundred
percent supportive of her best friend who was clearly dealing
with a lot. A cheating spouse now a dead spouse,
murdered by God knows who, and Sissy herself. She felt
like she had lost a good friend and Brian. They
were all really, really close. Sissy had even previously lived

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with the Davises for three years. That's how tight this.
This group was very tight knit group, always helping you
each other out during good times and bad. She had
also been with Robin whenever she went to run errands.
That day of Brian's disappearance, they had ridden together. Robin
picked up Sissy and they chatted it up while they

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were just running their errands, just trying to make it
more fun than it would be by yourself. The thing
about detectives, though, is that it's their job to not
only listen to what people tell them, but also to
challenge everything that people tell them, and not an accusatory way.
I don't want to seem like that, more like in
a confirmation type way. So they decided to follow up

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with other family and friends about the knowledge of Brian
and his whereabouts on his last day. A lot everyone
they spoke to, for the most part, echoed the same
thing Robin said, except for one small, tiny detail. Catherine Davis,
this was Brian's sister. She said that Robin told her

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Brian never returned from Kroger. Robin told the detectives that
they went boat shopping after returning from Coger from Kroger,
So this definitely was nothing big per se, but it
was gonna be noted as a discrepancy between what had
been told. Detectives also spoke to a woman named Amy Davis.

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This was Brian's sister in law, and she validated much
of what Robin said as well, and she even added
to the fact that she herself decided to call the
boat dealership in Beaumont where Brian was headed whenever he
never returned back home, and the boat dealership remembered that
Brian called to say that he was on his way,
but they verified he never made it there. So the

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timeline matched everything detectives knew up until this point. So,
deciding to take a different approach, a detective Young followed
up with phone records to see if cell phones matched
the shopping trip of Robin and Cissy. They wanted to
really clarify this timeline. In the records, a call was

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made by Robin at three point fifty PM. Now that
call pinged off of a tower on a road called
Elliott Road in Lake Charles, which was very curious to
this detective. It was curious and that that particular tower
that it was pinging off of was actually south of

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the area where Robin claimed to be running errands. It
just wasn't the tower that they would have expected her
cell phone to ping off of. Detectives. I mean, it
could have been just an issue in I guess you
could say, in the science of it all, but it

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was something that they wanted to write down because it
just was a little too far south from where she
should have been pinging from. Detectives then decided, well, let's
look into their financial records. We got nothing else to
look at, and let's see if there's any obvious issue
was there. Robin had been already honest with detectives though,
and told them, look, our financial situation isn't very good. Specifically,

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their account was overdrawn by almost eight hundred dollars. She
also told them we haven't paid our house notes since March,
and their financial stresses were so bad. She said, we
even canceled our car insurance because we couldn't afford it.
Robin said that she also had an inkling that Brian
was gambling more than he admitted and that he was
wasting more money than she actually knew about. But she said,

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I don't have any proof of this. It just seems
like that's what's going on. So now they're wondering could
Brian have been killed for a gambling debt or did
he owe the wrong person money and didn't pay up.
But then it begs the question, why would you go
boat shopping if you're that broke, knowing you can't afford it,

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why would you spend all this time looking at boats?
Well this was answered in an interview with Daryl Pettif,
who worked at Jerry's Marine. That was the second place
where Robin and Brian had gone boat shopping the day's disappearance.
According to him, Brian and Robin were looking at a
thirty thousand dollars boat, and Brian, in talking with the salesman,

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explained that he planned to pay for the boat with
a lump sum of cash that he was getting in
the near future. Okay, well, you have to kind of
ask yourself, was this truth or was this just bs
of a man wanting, you know, to talk with the salesperson,
the salesperson taking seriously and given the time of day,
or was it just kind of bs. People lie all

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the time about money, but it just doesn't seem necessary
if you were just looking and not planning to buy.
So more days would pass, and it was now July thirteenth,
which was twelve days since Brian was found dead. Again,
Robin's story didn't change, just some additional tidbits of little

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bits of information were added here and there in the information.
For example, detectives found that Cissy used the Honda Accord
from time to time. That wasn't really mentioned before, but whatever,
they shared the car with her. Robin said, the morning
of Brian's disappearance, the Honda wasn't even at the house
because she said Cissy had driven it home the night before.

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Why was this? Detectives wanted to know, and I know
I wanted to know too. She explained that Cissy accidentally
had left her headlights on in her own car and
so her car wouldn't start when she tried to leave
the night before. So after Brian left for work that morning,
Robin said she jumped Cissy's car off so she could
drive to the drug store. Robin then called Sissy and

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told her, Hey, the Jetta's good and you can come
pick it up. So Cissy then went and picked up
the Jetta, left the Honda back at the Davis's house
while Robin and Brian were still boat shopping. Then, as
Robin has already said multiple times, she and Brian split
ways between two thirty and three. She said she did

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talk to Brian around three o'clock while driving to Cissy's house,
where she had to wait for Sissy to get ready
a little bit, and the two of them went to
the cleaners, to Albertson's and then returned back to the
Davis's residence. So, after Robin has repeated the same story
to the detectives three times, they posed a question to her.

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They said, if you were shopping with Cissy, which you've
confirmed three separate times to us, why is your phone
pinging on a tower south of the area after you
have been very clear as to the places that you went.
So Robin is just staring at them, not knowing exactly

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much about towers and all that, and she's shocked and
she's like, I have never been in that area. I
only went to that area after I found out that
Brian was murdered there. I went there after, but I
did not go there before. She just couldn't explain how
this could be. She was damn near dumbfounded. So police

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still needed to figure out what had happened, and this
was proving really difficult, so they went back to the
physical evidence. The bullets recovered from Brian's body were found
to also be hydro shocks, and the cartridge casings found
at the scene were as well, So the evidence pointed
to the likelihood that Brian was killed with his own gun.

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The chances of being shot with hydroshock AMMO, carrying it
in your vehicle, and being known to have it on
you isn't something that detectives were just going to chalk
up to chance. That seems pretty coincidental, and we don't
believe in coincidences. So police also we're starting to believe
that this whole crime scene was staged. It just stump

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of something's not right. In order to protect the tire
from further damage during the towing process when they took
the car into evidence, a deputy on scene had removed
the damaged tire and went ahead and put this spare
tire on. They didn't want to further damage the flat tire.
They then took that flat tire to Southern Tire Mart

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to determine exactly what was wrong with it. So the
store manager took over this process. He looked it over,
he assessed the tire, He looked over completely, and he
found a whole bunch of nothing wrong with it. He
made a point to say that if this tire had
been driven in the area where you're saying this car

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was found, there would certainly have been damaged to this tire.
It would not look like this, he said. I also
refilled it with air and there's no flat, there's no hole.
It's not leaking either. So they're like, nothing's wrong with
the tire. He says, nothing is wrong with the tire.
They even were able to pull up records that showed

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that very tire had been recently purchased. It was a
new tire. Someone had to have deflated that tire. There
was no other explanation for it to be flat on
the side of that desolate road. And there was another
thing that stuck out sorely to them as well. Guess
what Brian had in his trunk a compressor. So it

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begs the question, why would you change a perfectly good
tire on the side of a rural road, You wouldn't. Okay. Also,
why wouldn't you just air it up with the compressor
if it went flat instead of completely changing it? You
know what I'm saying, That's what you would do. This,
my friends, was a staged crime scene. So the Southwest

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Louisiana Crime Lab examined the fingerprints that were lifted from
the scene. They looked at the carjack the windows, there
was an iPod in the car, a spare tire realm,
the mirror, and the sun visor. To be very specific
at what they looked at, and the only fingerprint that
they were able to identify was Robin's. Now, I know
what you're thinking, Well, they shared the car, of course

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her fingerprints would be in there. To say, okay, I
agree with you. Makes sense. The issue that police now
had was what wasn't there? There was no other female
DNA recovered from the scene, meaning if the theory that
they now were going to have to go to was

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that maybe he had been seduced or had gone to
that secluded area to have a rendezvous with Fanny or
maybe some other woman. Hell we don't know, her DNA
would be there, but it wasn't. There was no one
else's DNA, So now you have to wonder why was
he there in the first place, why was his belt undone,

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and why was he changing a perfectly good tire. So
detectives decided then to go back and question Robin's best
friend Sissy. This was on July thirteenth. Her statement was
that she spent all day Sunday at the Davis residence.
She then left around midnight. Her car wouldn't start at first,
so then she had to go take their Honda because

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Brian was going to use the Trailblazer the next morning
for work. The next morning, which was that Monday, again,
Robin called her saying Brian needed to use the car,
so she said, I went and put five to ten
bucks in gas in it and then drove it back
to their house. So detectives were able to actually pull
video from a shopwrite which did show her there shortly
after eleven. Once she got back, Robin then drove Sissy

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back home, where she stayed until later that afternoon, when
Robin picked her up to go run errands. When they left,
she said, we went straight to the dry cleaners, then
we went to Albertson's, and then we went right back
to the Davis residence. So we got back around five
or five thirty. So this was kind of looking like
the police were beating a dead horse. I'ma said, a

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dead hor Did y'all hear that? A dead horse? As
for the most part, because all the stories were aligning,
Sissy also said that Tuesday she did go looking for Brian.
So they said, okay, well where did you go when
you went looking for him? And she said, well, Brian
had taken both me and Robin fishing one time at

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a place called Calcushu Point, so I went to go
check there. And so detectives kind of cocked their heads
to the side and said, wow, do you think it's
kind of odd that the place that you went driving
and looking for him was really close to the actual
murder scene? And she just kind of looked at him
and said, well, I'd never really thought about that about

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the proximity of the two. For your knowledge, I want
to make sure you understand this. Where Sissy supposedly drove
was less than one mile from where Brian was found.
There was another friend that investigators chose to speak with
as well, and she happened to be living with the
Davises when Brian disappeared. Maybe she knew something. This woman's

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name was Stephanie Wells, so it turns out that she
was awake early in the morning that Brian was believed
to be killed because she happened to be scheduled for
an eye surgery, so she verified Cissy's car was parked
in the grass when I left to go to the doctor.
She said, my surgery was done and I was back
home by ten thirty, and she said that she didn't

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remember the Jetta still being there. She said, shortly after
she got home, Brian returned back to the house. They
spoke briefly, where Brian asked her, will you mind watching
Bailey my daughter? Would you mind watching Bailey while me
and Robin go Brooke Boat shopping, and Stephanie said, I
absolutely agreed, And she said I did try to check
in with Brian around three or three thirty, but he

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didn't answer the phone. So a little while later, I
can tell you from the phone record, specifically, at three
forty two pm, miss Wells sent a text to him
saying Bailey is complaining that she's really not feeling good,
but Brian never her back, nor did he answer that
text back. Robin did, though, Robin called her back about

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nine minutes later. She said they spoke briefly and Robin said,
you know, I'm running errands with Sissy and when I
get back, we'll take care of it. She also said
that Robin returned back home around five pm. What were
the police missing. It had to be there somewhere, you know,

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everyone's kind of echoing the same story, but something is
clearly being missed. So they're racking their brains. What are
we missing? So they decided to go back to the
finances and to go interview some more close relatives. This
included Robin's mother, Miss Babbette Bartholomew. During the interview with
Miss Babbett, she said that she had given four thousand

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dollars to Robin in a new bank account. So cops
were like, why why did you give her four thousand dollars?
She said, well, Robin told me that her bank account
was frozen due to the death investigation of Brian, and
so she was told not to use that account. There
was a big problem with what Miss Babbett just told them,

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a big problem. The problem was that the money that
she deposited into the new bank account was deposited the
same day that Brian was found dead, before anyone was notified.
Why would Robin ask for money to be deposited for

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a death investigation before she even knew that her husband
was dead. Robin also had two life insurance policies, one
for ninety thousand dollars and one for forty thousand dollars,
both of them on Brian, so she stood to gain
one hundred and thirty thousand dollars in the event of
his death. Now that's not necessarily a ton of money,

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considering you know, a million other cases that had been
covered and people getting millions and millions of dollars, but
it could give someone the motive to kill him. In
light of the gambling issues that were uncovered, Robin's son,
Justin said Brian would stop to play video video poker

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on the way to work in the mornings, as well
as sometimes on the way home in the afternoons. He
also said that Brian's gambling had escalated in the last
six months prior to his death, but Justin also had
a little bit more information. He added that his mother
was also a big time gambler. Robin never really mentioned
that much. She frequented a place called Kd's Diner in

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Lake Charles, and she loved those video poker machines. Their
gambling debt caused a great deal of financial stress on
the both of them. Beginning in February, bank records showed
overdraft charges and frequent withdrawals at game ambling establishments. In particular,
on July tenth, just days after Brian's death, they saw

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where Robin withdrew one hundred and two dollars and seventy
five cents at a casino. Then on July eleventh, she
wrote four separate checks to Kd's Diner, one for two
O two seventy five, one for one O two seventy five,
another for one O two seventy five, and one for
sixty two seventy five. So you're kind of seeing a

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pattern of her paying paying a two dollars seventy five
cent fee, running out of money, running right back up
and doing it, and doing it and doing it again.
Some other evidence wasn't quite adding up either. For example,
at eight fifty two in the morning of Brian going missing,
both Robin and Sissy entered a local Walgreens. Throughout every

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single time that either of them were questioned about what
they were doing. Neither one said that they went to
a Walgreens together, neither one as many many times as
they laid out what they did that day. That's odd,
especially when you know that you're being questioned about your
husband's murder. The cell phone records were also deeply looked

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at at this point and really scrutinized. Robin told the
detectives that when she made the three point fifty pm
call back to Miss Wells about Brian's daughter, she was
waiting on Sissy to dry her hair so they could
go run those errands. But according to the cell phone records,
this call pinged off of a sprint tower south of

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Country Club Road. When the besties were claiming they only
went to Albertson's and Triple A Cleaner's, they're not in
the same area. That same tower was used in a
two second hang up call made by Brian's phone at
three point forty four pm the same day. During Robin's call,

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the phone switched towers, indicating that she was driving somewhere,
not sitting at Sissy's house. Your phone will not jump
towers while you are a located stationary It wasn't making sense.
Robin also told police she called Brian a bunch of
times whenever he went missing. She said, I left him

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a bunch of voicemails. He never returned my call, so
police went and looked at Brian's voicemails. There were no
messages from Robin from June twenty ninth at two point
fifty eight pm until July fourth at nine to twenty am.
This was days later, and he had already been found

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dead by that point. Why are you calling your dead
husband's phone leaving voicemails? So detectives really honed in on
these towers that were being used both by Robin and
Sissy's phones on the day of Brian's death, and wouldn't
you know, they both were pinging off of a tower

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called Centennial Tower, the only one right near Brian's murder scene.
So in a separate interview, Cissy told detectives she had
no knowledge about Brian's death. She couldn't help them, she
didn't know anything about it. So detectives decided maybe they
would explain to her the difference between first and second

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degree murder, and Cissy sat back indignantly in her chair
and said, do you think I killed Brian, and the
detective bluntly said that he thought, I don't know if
you killed him, but I know that you have either
direct or indirect knowledge about Brian's murder, and we would
like some answers. And Sissy got up and stormed out

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of the interview and left. So Robin's daughter, Kelsey, was
also questioned, but she wasn't questioned about Brian. She was
questioned about her own father, her biological father, Remember Andrew Little,
who died in the car wreck. She was about his death,
and what she had to say about her own dad's
death was very interesting. Robin told Kelsey that there was

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only twenty five thousand dollars in life insurance on her dad. However,
when cleaning her father's house out, she found a one
hundred thousand dollars policy on her father, and Kelsey felt
like that whole situation was really shady because she lied
about seventy five thousand dollars worth of life insurance money.

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She went and bought a Trailblazer with cash. She went
and bought Brian, her then fiance, a boat with cash.
She remodeled her house, got new hardwood floors, bought new kitchen, appliances,
hired a painter to paint the entire house, and even
got all of her landscaping done so. When asked about
her own mother, Kelsey told detectives that she would describe

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her mother as being unfair to other people. As for Sissy,
Kelsey described her as a second mom to her. She
said she even lived with us for four years that
she was asked, well, what was that like? Oh, well,
she never paid rent. She never bought groceries though, but
she didn't have to if my mother was, you know,

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if she's around my mom, My mom always pays for everything.
So when Kelsey was asked about her stepdad not returning home,
she told detectives that her mom told her Brian never
returned home from work the day that he went missing.
I mean, this is a complete inconsistency with what detectives
had been told previously by others. One he didn't come

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home from the Kroger. One he didn't come home from
boat shopping, one he didn't come home from work. Well,
which one is it? I think I would remember the
last moment I saw my beloved. So with this information
in mind, detectives decided to look further into the life
insurance on Brian, and they were advised on a massive
bombshell that Robin never mentioned. State Farm Insurance came forward

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and said that there were two additional policies on Brian.
Police had no clue about. She never mentioned this. They
had another one worth one hundred thousand dollars as well
as another one worth two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
In total, there were four life insurance policies on Brian Brian,

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totaling six hundred and forty five thousand dollars. Police had
enough and they knew what was up. Robin and Brian
went boat shopping while Cissy was driving Brian's Honda the
day of the murder. Based on the cell phone records
and the locations of the towers used, the women were
calling each other, not about, you know, a dead vehicle

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or errands that they had to run. No, that's not
what they were calling each other about. They were trying
to determine exactly when Robin and Brian would be leaving
Jerry's marine. Casis drove the Honda to that wagon wheel
road in plenty of time to sit and wait to
fake a flat tire, which it had to have been

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done before the rain, which means it was before three pm,
and she faked that flat tire, so they never went
home and switched cars as Robin had claimed. Robin and
Brian drove the Trailblazer straight from Jerry's marine to Wagon
Wheel Road. Cissy lured Brian to the murder scene and

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the besties worked together to shoot him. Now who actually
pulled the trigger nobody knows, but it doesn't matter. They
both were working in tandem to llure Brian to the scene.
The cell phone records proved the besties were lying all
about the afternoon of the murder, and it placed them
both right at the murder scene. The bullets found at

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the scene they matched the ammunition found at the Davis residence.
Along with the fact that the flat tire the crime
scene was completely staged, proven by the deflated tire with
zero defects. Neither woman mentioned to police that they went
together to that Walgreens the morning of the murder, which
also threw off their supposed timeline of when they were
supposed to be together. Robin lied to the police about

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leaving numerous voicemails when Brian didn't return home. Combined with
the statements of Brian's sister, who was told Brian never
returned from Kroger to go buy that sprite and that
soup for his daughter Bailey, and then Kelsey, the other daughter,
being told that he never returned home from work. Robin
had lost her job. She was in financial distress with

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an overdrawn bank account, a gambling problem, and a house
note way past due. She also lied about how much
life insurance she had on Brian. Here's another fun fact
I forgot to tell you. She was also playing video
poker instead of attending Brian's post funeral memorial. No, she
was playing video poker machines, which were proven. Basically, Robin

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and Sissy were codependent, nearly inseparable friends, both frequent gamblers,
and Sissy depended on Robin financially. Finally, Robin asked her
mother for four thousand dollars due to Brian's death investigation,
tying up their funds, but it's proven by their records
that she was given them money the money before Brian

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was ever even found to be dead. The only alibi
for either woman was the other one, and this stinks
of cold blooded murder. Five months after Brian Davis was murdered,
his wife, Robin, and her best friend Sissy, were indicted
for his murder. And something funny to me that I
don't ever really see mentioned is that Justin visited his mother,

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Robin in jail while she was awaiting trial. And you know,
those conversations are all recorded. We all know that, right,
hopefully you do by this day and age. Your conversations
are recorded. Not to mention the recording at the beginning
that says you're receiving a call from a penal institution
and your calls are monitored and recorded, maybe that would

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be your hint. But at one point Justin asked his mom, well, mom,
what's what are other people's bonds like compared to yours?
And she said that they were high quote even for
people who didn't kill anybody, end quote. Hmm. So, on
August twenty sixth, twenty twelve, fifty year old Robin and

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forty five year old Sissy were both convicted of second
degree murder, each given life in prison without the possibility
of parole. And something else I read that really just
the women were asked about their relationship now that they
both have life in prison, and Robin said, our relationship
has never been better. And we're closer than ever sit

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on that one. I'm all about having a best friend,
but that's a role that should include telling each other
you're crazy when the idea of murder your spouse comes up.
But this is what happens when two idiots become besties,
and they create this echo chamber of bad ideas. But
considering they both love to gamble so much, I think

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both women might be surprised to know that women's prisons
and gambling are a lot alike, because whether they want
it or not, they're still going to experience some liquor
in the front and possibly some poker in the back.