Body Bag

In this episode of Unspeakable: A True Crime Podcast by Kelly Jennings, KJ tells the horrific story of Nyteisha & Nylo Lattimore.
 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell
stories of real crimes with real victims whose cases are
so shocking that many are left wondering how is this
even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,
and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,

(00:28):
dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so
evil many feel they are unspeakable.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Warning.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Unspeakable as intended for mature audiences. If you are easily offended,
then I'm not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey y'all,
kJ You're back with another sort of unspeakable. How is
it going in your neck of the woods? And I'm
going to start today with something that kind of blew
my mind? Do y'all remember a few episodes back whenever
I covered the Dylan Roof case, and that was the

(01:12):
white guy that went in and shot up the Black
church and he was a hateful, horrible person. Well, there
is an update now on this case and it actually
doesn't have anything to do with Dylan Roof. It has
to do with the judge that sat in on part
of his I don't know if it was his sentencing
or what, but there was a judge a Charleston County
Magistrate magistrate judge. His name is James Gosnell, Junior, And y'all,

(01:36):
the judge has been arrested and he's now facing charges
of possession of child sexual abuse material. And this is
a according to the United States Department of Justice. And
they found flash drives in his house full of all
this child pornography type stuff. And so if you are
just someone who follows up with crime like I do,

(01:58):
and I kind of when I saw roof, I thought
it was him back in the news for something, and
it is the frickin' judge. Unbelievable. Go look it up
if you're interested in this. But the payments, it was
money exchanging and everything. The payments came from this peer
to peer online money transfer account that he was using.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I mean, this is some pretty dark stuff. And he's
a judge. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I'm so disappointed in that whenever I find out that
a judge, and I know anybody any day is capable
of being a horrible person, but damn, you know, anything
that could even possibly raise an appellet you know, and
appeals for some appeal for somebody that maybe was sentenced
or something. Underneath this guy, I hate when those doors
are opened, and I think that's why it really frustrated me.

(02:42):
But this story today obviously is not going to be
about that. We are going to be in Cincinnati for
this one. And when I think of Cincinnati, I automatically,
without question, think of Joe Burrow. He brought my Tigers
to a national championship and we won that bitch, And
so I am a huge Bengals fan. I think of Cincinnati.
And while football is something that many of us believed

(03:05):
to be important, being a mother is what topped Cincinnatian
Nitisha Latimore's list of importance. And Nitisha was twenty six
years old and carving out her place in the world
when she found herself pregnant. Now, Nitisha, I want you
to know this is a tiny little thing. She was
an itty bitty girl, but feisty. Ooh, you didn't want

(03:27):
to cross this one. She was feisty and something that
she loved to do was to dress up. She loved
to look good. She wanted to look her best. She
was one of those women that liked to get her
hair done, she liked taking selfie, she liked looking pretty.
She had this light cocoa skin and she maintained this long,
wavy hair, and just like the young girls do, she

(03:48):
loved those long eyelashes and ladies, listen. I know I
got men that listen to but ladies, real quick. Don't
think eyelashes make you walk a little prouder, because they
do me. I feel good when I got my fake
lash is on. So she would sometimes put on this
bright eyeshadow and then in other pictures of her, she
would just enjoy the real natural look that she could rock.

(04:10):
And she was so excited when she found out that
she was finally going to be a mom. This was
something that she thought was going to be the greatest
adventure of her life, and knowing that a little life
was growing inside of her was an amazing feeling and
one that despite any uphill battle she may be facing
in that moment, she was not going to take this lightly.

(04:32):
She was in a relationship at that time with a
man named Tonio Hughes, and he was excited to be
a parent, as was she. They were excited to look
forward to this little being that was about to be
in their lives, and the tiny life inside of her
would make his debut nine months later, and they would
proudly name this little man Nilo.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Now truth be told. While her undying love story with.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Her new baby boy was just starting, the relationship with
Tonio was ending. There weren't They just weren't doing well.
Things weren't going good, and so she decided to choose
happiness over what might have made her life easier by
having two parents one hundred percent of the time in
the picture. And she wasn't scared to be a single mom.
She was not scared at all. Actually, she struck out

(05:21):
on her own and she was going to do her
best to pave her way for herself and her baby.
She was able to secure her own apartment and she
was so excited to get those keys. And this was
on February the twelfth of twenty twenty. She got those
keys in her hand, and no matter she could furnish
it or not, she had a roof to put over

(05:41):
her head and her baby's head. And she began to
shift her goals to gaining long term, steady employment rather
than just little menial jobs or something like that. Growing up,
she didn't have to worry about how the bills were
paid because she was a kid. Reality of now herself

(06:02):
having to provide for her son.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
It hit hard.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So she was proud to be watching baby Nilo grow
and by the time that he could walk, he.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Was following her around her a little apartment, step first step.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
And she was now as he had grown a little bit,
getting kind of nervous because she realized, oh my gosh,
you know, I've got to put my little man in
daycare and he's my baby.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Will they love him? Will they take care of him?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
And so she said to herself, you know what, I
just have to put this in God's hands. This is
something that I've got to do so that I can
better our lives. Her most precious gift, she decided, would
be covered by the protection of Jesus while she was
making moves to improve their life. So she would also

(06:50):
at times get some baby free weekends, which was.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Also a really good thing for her.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
So when the baby would be maybe with his daddy
or with family members and she would get a little
bit of a break. She liked to go to the casinos.
She liked to relax there, do a little bit of
gambling or whatever. But that's when COVID really started to
take over. And if you remember, we do we all do.
The stores were closing the world slowed down. Nobody was
really getting out, going anywhere. Making money was even harder

(07:17):
than ever, and so getting out and getting to relax
that wasn't gonna happen anyway.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
She was just kind of stuck at home.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
But the funny thing about this was that she may
have been sitting at home due to corona, okay, but
she said, I don't care if I'm stuck at home,
I'm still gonna look cute.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
She posted this on her Facebook.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
She was still gonna dress up, even if it was
just to sit her ass in the living room. She
wanted to look good doing it, and I thought that
was pretty precious. So she was living in Section eight
housing and she was on food stamps, but she was
wanting to make more money. She didn't want to remain
complacent and just that be the way that it was going.
So not being very educated was an issue, and if

(07:59):
she wanted to move up in the world, she recognized,
I've got to do something about this. And so she
was very clear that while I may not have much
right now, whatever I do have, I will be spending
on my son. She was also turning over a new
leaf for herself. She had been in relationships in the

(08:21):
past and maybe to date, I guess you could say
that at times seemed to have domestic violence involved in
these relationships.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
She was really.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Vocal online in her online presence about that she had
not been in good relationships. She even went as far
as to say that she had even been raped when
she was seventeen. But she refused to allow this emotional
damage that had hurt her so deeply to this point
in her life. She was now changing, she was shifting,

(08:51):
and she was no longer going to allow that emotional
damage in trauma that was done to her to control her.
She was in charge of the future of herself and
her child, and nobody else past, present, or future was
going to get in the way of that. And she
said that being a mother it had changed her, It

(09:11):
had changed everything about her, and she was now a
new person. When she was a little bit younger, she
had been in trouble at times, even with the law,
and she now recognized that that was stupidity, that that
was not the way that she should have been acting,
and she would never let that happen again. Nilo needed

(09:34):
her and there would never be a day in her
life that she would not be there for her baby boy.
He made her smile, y'all, even on the worst days.
And if you have children, you know what I'm talking about.
And even if you don't, I just posted something on
Facebook and a lot of people did it. Go check
it out, by the way, if you haven't, I just
posted something on the day that I'm recording this where

(09:56):
it's this project that kindergartener's are doing in another state.
And you can dial the phone number and kindergarten you
can choose do you need a pep talk?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Do you need words of encouragement? What do you need?
And you go through the phone.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Prompt and then these little kindergarteners will give you some
life advice or whatever it is that you're needing. Children
have a way of, even on your worst day, making
you smile and making you just feel good. Their innocence,
something about that innocence is just so heartwarming. And her
little man was smart, and he made her smile even

(10:27):
on the hard days, and he was thriving. At the
point I'm telling in the story, he could count past
the number ten, and little Nilo knew the sounds that
a lot of animals made. He could tell you what
a cow did a cow mood, and he knew that,
you know, just the sweetest things. So Natisha was thrilled

(10:49):
that he was now close to starting preschool and that
was really all that she could talk about. Her little
dude was doing it. He was three at the at
this point in the story, and he was on his way.
But he wasn't the only one who would be going
to school because his mama had also enrolled in school.

(11:10):
They were going to do it together as a team.
She had enrolled at Good Samaritan Nursing College and her
goal was to become a medical assistant.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
And in her mind, they were a power duo. Mama
and son taken on the world. We got this.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
We don't need anybody or anything, We just need each other.
And she was now also in a new relationship. She
had started dating a man by the name of Deshaun Brown,
and she thought, you know, it's a pretty cool dude,
and he was fun and he liked to be around
baby Nilo as well, which is always a plus. You
want your children to like the person that is your

(11:46):
potential partner whenever you're not with their biological father. That
would be a wonderful thing and it was also nice
to have a male figure around too, because she had
just recently had a scare in her own apartment back
in March of twenty twenty, and she shared with friends again.
She shared online that someone had tried to break into

(12:07):
her apartment and police were responding because when she had
come home, she found that not only was her window open,
but the screen was missing, and she always always kept
her windows closed and locked, so this really spooked her.
Who was watching her, who was trying to come into
her home? And why having a boyfriend and having one

(12:31):
not only that she was dating, but have one that
was around a lot, it made her feel safer in
this regard because she had no idea who had tried
to come into her apartment. She was worried though, because
her main issue, and we all could guess this was
her baby Nilo. What if someone were to break in
and it's just her and the baby. What would she
do because she had to protect her little man against

(12:55):
any possible threat, and she was even considering getting a
pistol for protection, something she had never really done or
considered before in the past. Her sweet Nilo, he was
busy playing with his hot wheels and his little trumps
to know the real danger that his mama felt that
they were in matter of fact, as he just sat

(13:18):
on the couch watching his favorite cartoon character, Nilo loved
SpongeBob SquarePants. Well, while he's sitting there watching SpongeBob on
the TV, she's sitting there just kind of in turmoil
internally thinking, Oh my god. You know, I don't know
that I can do what I would have to do
because I just don't have a way of protecting us.
But she vowed that he would remain a baby that

(13:43):
would never know the fear that she was fearing, nor
would he ever know a thing that might make him scared.
Home was where the heart is, and his home would
be one of sanctuary and they would feel safe together.
And he was a more quiet and shy little child.
He had a kind of a nervous spirit when he

(14:03):
was around any one other than his mama, but he
could trust that she always had his best interests in mind.
He was one of those little guys that would hide
behind his mama in public, or he would tuck his
face into her chest whenever they would talk to other people.
He was just kind of a shy little guy, but
she would absolutely just melt when he would crawl over

(14:25):
to her on the couch and he loved to grab
her face and then he would he would kiss all
over her until they both fell over laughing. That was
one of those things that just she looked forward to it,
and his little innocence. He did it just because he
loved his mama. Love was always in full supply, even
if funds remained very, very low in their lives. But

(14:48):
in early July, a new surprise showed itself in the
form of two pink lines. That's right, Nilo was gonna
be a big brother. Nititia was pregnant again, and she
was ecstatic. She loved being a mom. That was not
gonna change. And it was July nineteenth when she confirmed

(15:11):
that she had an upcoming ultrasound of the new baby
and how much she was looking forward to this ultrasound.
But just a day later, in the early early morning
hours of the twentieth, she found herself in the hospital
and she was worried that she might be miscarrying this
new baby. So the next day she did give an
update to all of her friends that the bleeding she

(15:33):
was experiencing had stopped and the baby was confirmed as
still alive.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Who right?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That had to be a scare beyond what any woman
who's pregnant would whatever want to feel. And she was like,
it's gonna be okay. It seems like the baby's doing
good and I've stopped bleeding. She was nervously optimistic, but
she was going to lay it again in God's hands.
Whatever be your will, I will accept. Well, unfortunately, it
just wasn't meant to be, because on July twenty ninth,

(16:03):
she confirmed that she had in fact lost her new baby.
She was heartbroken, and she was very vocal and open
about her pain, and she wanted this child that would
never be. She longed for this new baby, but it
wasn't going to happen. It just wasn't in the cards.
So she leaned in on her baby, Nilo, and she

(16:26):
snuggled his precious little body for comfort. Her little man
still brought her joy even though she was feeling immense sadness.
And again he held her face as he always did,
and he gave his mama those little smooches to kiss
and wipe away her tears. He was so little, but
so powerful in his touch and his understanding that his

(16:48):
mama was going through something, even if he didn't know
what it was exactly. Now knowing that night, Tisha was
a steadfast mother for her child and also had these
immediate goals that I have mentioned as far as school
goes for both of them, it was strange that just
five months later, from what I'm telling you about, she

(17:09):
stopped responding to people all together. Was it possible that
she thought she had found all this newfound strength and
that she was going to do good things, but maybe
on the inside she didn't truly believe it, and maybe
she had slipped into a depression, or maybe has she
just gotten so just done with how bad things were

(17:29):
going in her life that she up and left and
went somewhere nobody really knew. What they did know was
that her posts stopped online and no one had seen
Nilo either. So they were together somewhere is what it
had to be. But where were they? Matter of fact,
the last time either one of them had been seen

(17:50):
was on December the fourth, So police were contacted by
worried family and they went to go check on mother
and son. So they lived on one Melrose Avenue, and
this is in the Walnut Hills area. So when police arrived,
they knocked on the door at the apartment, Hello, Hello,
but nobody was home. They did make entry into the

(18:12):
apartment to check on them, and it seemed like they
had had left but just never returned. It wasn't like
they had left and moved away, though. It was like
they had left to go on you know, grocery shopping
or something and just never returned. So Nitisha did not
have a car, and she was known to ride the
bus to get from A to B, so police were

(18:34):
kind of thinking, all right, well, there's got to be
a paper trail or a video trail or something if
she's been on these public buses going places.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
But that wasn't the case. They did not find her
traveling via.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
The bus, so everything, like I said, was still at
the apartment as if they had just not just up
and left.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
But obviously, this lack.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Of communication from someone who communicated almost daily online as
well as in person huge red flag. Anybody that knows
somebody that's very communicative and talks to a lot of
people during the day would obviously think that this was
an issue. So for now though, they were going to
be classified as missing persons, but it seemed that there

(19:18):
was something less than desirable at hand. When a few
more things came to light, so police did wonder was
the previous break in at her apartment related to this
missing person situation. Also, Tiny Sho wasn't in a good
place with her ex boyfriend and father of Nilo. Was

(19:39):
he possibly involved in this? Did he possibly have Nilo
right now in his custody? On the side note I
guess of this too was that a young child was
found right about that time.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
He was left at a local business.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Also at around the same time that they were looking
for Niitsia and Nilo, and so some online sleuths were wondering,
I wonder if that's actually Nilo and he was walking alone,
So they go check that out and it turned out no,
that was not the same child. It was unfortunately another
child that was found without a parent. So meanwhile, Tinisha's

(20:16):
family was steadily looking for any sign of where they
might be even believe it or not, checking trash cans
around the property for any evidence that may lend them
to know where they were. And that's when they called
nine one one.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
And we came across this garbage can that had some
shire curtains that looked like he got blood in it,
and we just want to have a police office to
come out here and look at this because it looks
like he got to like tissue in it.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
So listening to this call, obviously there was something now
that that physical that went on, but you know that
wasn't enough to say, well, yes they're dead or yes
they're gravely injured or anything of that nature. Plus us
testing would have to be done on that blood to
verify if it was even related to this disappearance. I mean,

(21:07):
you can't just say, oh, yeah, that must be related.
So eight days would pass after this original missing person's
report was made with no word from Nititia, no sightings
of her three year old son Nilo either, nothing but
literal radio silence during these days that were passing. But
at three point thirty in the morning on December twelfth,

(21:31):
a curious construction site security officer, he was right near
the Purple People Bridge on the Ohio River. He saw
something and he dialed nine one one as.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Well Cincinnati nine one one. What is he dressed the emergency?

Speaker 4 (21:47):
I found a dead body. Somebody threw a bag like
on the edge of the bridge, and my curiosity got
the gust of me. So I got it there and
knocked it down and it was heavy. It hit the ground.
It's like a body bag. Yeah. I'm almost sixty years
old and I've never hit anything like this. I never

(22:09):
saw that. This is crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Now, this security guard originally he believed that this was
a halloween prop or something of that nature, and that
it had been dumped. But he was wrong, y'all. Police
arrived and sure enough he had found a real body
in a real body bag. I mean, it's kind of like,
did the coroner lose a body out of the back

(22:33):
of their van or something like that would be crazy,
is why is this person in a medical body bag
and why are they there? But that's not the case,
and this definitely was a real body bag with a
real body in it. So additional questioning revealed that the
man was an overnight security guard and he was just

(22:55):
patrolling in his vehicle and the guard said, look, I
saw a man approach like walking towards me, and this
was about the time that that bag was dumped. But
the man didn't The security guard didn't want any trouble.
He didn't really want to talk to the stranger either.
It was in the middle of the night. It was
it was dark, and so the security guard was kind
of like, stay in your lane, mind your own business,

(23:16):
went back and got into his truck until that person
was completely gone out of the area. It was definitely
a male though, who had dumped the bag over the bridge,
so clearly thinking that the body bag had hit the water,
the unknown male left the area, but the reality was
that it had gotten stuck on a lower level ledge

(23:37):
of the bridge and it never actually fell all the
way to the water. So the body was collected and
brought to the Medical Examiner's office for identification, and during
the autopsy it was determined that the body was that
of a black female who had suffered an extremely brutal attack.

(23:58):
So her cause of death was ruled a homicide, and
the manner it was very personal what had happened to her.
Not only had she been stabbed to death, but she
had been stabbed eleven times in the neck area. Extremely personal,
extremely gruesome, and extremely extremely in your face type of

(24:22):
way to kill somebody. And it was also noted in
the report that the body wasn't fresh either, it had
been dead for days, so the issue kind of became
but wait a minute, she had just been found I mean,
the body had just been dumped, so where has she

(24:43):
been then for at least a week as that was
determined as how old they thought the body was, So
this would not be the coroner's job to figure out.
He just made that notation. This would be the investigator's
job to determine. And there were also items within the
body bag that were of investigative interest as well. With

(25:03):
the body was a Paw patrol blanket and that blanket
had blood on it as well. So this is another
red flag again because it's a child's blanket. Now, investigator
investigators weren't dumb. They knew that tin Nisha and her
baby boy were not accounted for still and were missing.
And eventually, after some time passed and the testing was done,

(25:26):
it was confirmed that the body in the body bag
caught on the bridge was that of Tinisha Latimore. The
devastating news still had to be broken to.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Her parents, and her parents took this hard, really hard.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
They loved their baby girl, and as devastated as they
were for losing their Nichee as they called her, they
were now also in immense distress because where is their grandson?
Where is my grandson? Where is Nilo? If Titinish is
dead in a body bag? Where is my baby?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Boy? He was three, he.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Couldn't take care of himself and he was always with
his mama, but now that she.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Was found, he wasn't And.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Police were now interested in what all Tinish's boyfriend may
know about what's going on, as well as Nilo's daddy
Tinysha's ex baby daddy. What do they know about what
was going on? So both men were questioned and not
really not much really came from that. Nilo's dad, Bio

(26:34):
Dad was shook up and he was desperate to find
the whereabouts of his son. The boyfriend, Deshaun, he really
didn't have much to add to the conversation either. He
was brought in for questioning, but he really didn't have
any answers to the questions that they were asking. And
it was also noted he did not have Nilo. So

(26:57):
the boyfriend didn't have Nilo. The baby daddy did and
have his son. We still don't know where this baby is.
What became rather obvious though, was that while they may
have been in a relationship Tinisha and her boyfriend, their
relationship wasn't one that was really founded on the traditional

(27:17):
principles of mutual respect and consideration for one another. Why
do I say this, Well, there was an observation by
a neighbor that lived there right by Tinisha that really
painted a picture of how they interacted with one another.
Another neighbor would also come forward, So there was not

(27:37):
one neighbor, but two neighbors that would say well. On
the fourth, which is the last day that Tinisha was
seen alive, they saw her out front of her apartment complex,
and she was holding baby Nilo while a man was
yelling at her and trying to hit her.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Nilo was crying. Nilo was beside himself.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
He's clinging to his mama, and the whole situation was
extremely stressful, and he got so bad that one of
those neighbors started yelling out at them and said, look,
if you don't stop, I will call the police. This
is ridiculous. Y'all need to break that shut up. And
because they threatened to call the police, it did break
up the fight at that time. Now, no one in

(28:20):
the neighborhood saw that same man return that night, but
that didn't mean that he didn't necessarily return. It was
just that nobody saw him. Luckily, there were cameras in
the area. But this raised another problem when investigators got
ahold of them, because they realized that these cameras were
on a five day cycle. They recorded over themselves every

(28:42):
five days. Well, it had been eight days since Tinysha
had been missing and now she's found dead, so this
would be an obvious issue for this investigation. But as
often happens, when this story hit the local news, a
friend of tiny just came forward with some information that

(29:03):
caught the investigators off guard. The friend's name was Jamisha Cobb,
and she is the one that told officers that Nitisha
had been pregnant and then confirmed that she had recently
lost the baby. Now you're like, well, that's not what's
so off guard about that, That's not the part that
I'm pointing out. The police asked her who is the

(29:26):
baby's father, and Jamisha said that it was Tinysia's boyfriend,
Deshaun Brown. Okay, we all know that, right, We assume
that the boyfriend would be the baby's dad, But there
was more.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
To the story.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
See Deshaun and Jamisha they spoke, okay, and the night
before or not the night before, but right before Nitisha's disappearance.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
He was very clear that he was mad.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
He was pissed off that she had miscarried the baby,
and he felt like she had done something and it
was her fault that that baby was miscarried. Now, the
reality he was that she had a miscarriage. This was
confirmed on her Facebook, but he did not believe it.
He did not believe it. He said, Nope, she must
have done something. People don't just have miscarriages, which is absurd.

(30:16):
The worst part of the conversation, though, was that he
also told Tinisia's friend that he was going to do
something to Nilo.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Because he was so mad.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
I guess this was his way of getting even with
Nitisia for having a miscarriage of his baby, which is
just gut wrenching to.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Me on so many fronts.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
You're mad about something that happens naturally, unfortunately, a miscarriage,
and then your first thought is to hurt a baby
or to take it out on some other person's child.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
There's something way wrong with that thinking.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
But while this new found information was chilling, it gave
investigators at least a suspect with a motive possibly to
maybe hurt Tyinisia and now maybe kill her, but also
maybe he's the one that might know where Nilo is.
So when the medical examiner received Knitiitiha's body, it was documented,

(31:15):
like I said, that there was a Paw patrol blanket
with her body that had the blood on it, and
that was sent to the crime lab. Her autopsy had
confirmed that she was stabbed to death. So if there
was blood in the body bag and on this blanket,
that isn't weird. I mean, she died from being stabbed
to death. The blanket was also assumed to be from
her own home, and so it wasn't that crazy of

(31:37):
a think of a find, really, But when the results
came back, it was not Nititia's blood on that Paw
patrol blanket.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
It was baby Nilo's.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
This made the situation even worse because now Nilo was
confirmed based on this finding, that he was at least
injured at some point, and police knew now that Deshaun
had told at least one person he wanted to hurt
the little fella. And as unconsfortable as that is, that's
the reality of what they were facing in this moment.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Jim, did you see what happened in Texas today?

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Wait before you tell me that, let me tell you
what happened in New York.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
It cannot be as crazy as the case I told
you about yesterday in Louisiana.

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Speaker 1 (32:28):
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Speaker 1 (32:55):
I also think it important to point out that the
friend that was giving all this information to the police
about Deshaun wanting to possibly hurt Nilo, she had no
way of knowing about that Paul patrol blanket that was
found in the body bag with Tinisha, So her statements
about that and now knowing that that's little Nilo's blood
seemed even more legit. And they thought, you know, we're

(33:15):
sniffing in the right direction of what may have gone
on here. I mean, come on it, really, I keep
getting caught up on it, and I know we know
that you know, a child is such an innocent and
of course he loved hanging out with DeShawn the last
couple of months. They had fun together, they enjoyed being together,
and so Nilo would have trusted Deshn And I think

(33:36):
that's one of the most distressing things to think about.
Is it a little dude, And then you've got this
adult saying he doesn't mind hurting this baby, and that
baby has no reason to not trust this adult that
his mother has brought into their lives.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
The very day.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
After Tinisha's body was found, something else was found as well.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
But this was not on the bridge.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
This was down on the bottom underneath the bridge near
the water, and it was a baby stroller that sat unoccupied.
It was in close proximity to where Nitisha's body had
been dumped. And at this moment, I think we're all
kind of probably taking a collective sigh as to what

(34:20):
this could possibly imply. But the good news at this
moment is that Nilo was yet to be located and
no baby's body had been recovered from anywhere in the area,
So there was still hope that maybe the stroller was
just happenstance. It might have nothing to do with this
story at all. It was just something that was seen

(34:41):
down by the waterway, So I'm going to leave that
at that for right now. Well, back at Tinyisha's apartment complex,
investigators continued to canvass the area and to talk to
neighbors to say, hey, do you know anything anything that
you may not even realize is important you may have
seen or heard over the last eight days or so.

(35:02):
And the neighbors did speak to police, which kudos to them,
but multiple ones said, well, yeah, actually, December fifth, there
was a lot of noise coming from her apartment. And
whenever the police tried to kind of clarify what do
they mean by noise, because noise could mean a lot
of things. It could be dancing, it could be allowed TV,

(35:24):
it could be anything, the neighbors clarified that these were
sounds of a struggle. It sounded like a fight, not
a happy loudness, not feet stamping and dancing to a
TV or music or anything like that, and definitely not
a party. December fifth was the exact date that the
medical examiner determined to have likely have been Tinish's date

(35:48):
of death. But if she was killed that day, why
wasn't she found until December eleventh. It just it was
like they were on the right track. But in the
puzzle pieces were coming together. But I mean, that's a
big gap.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
What happened? Where was she?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
But that's what a more clear picture, kind of an
aha moment was built by the investigators. So they believed
that Nitisha was killed on December fifth, and that now
they were thinking her body must have laid in her
apartment for days until the d COMP became an issue. Now,

(36:26):
I don't want to be grotesque, but it's part of
the understanding the theory here of what happened. But six
days after death, even if indoors and air conditioned, this
would explain why she would have had to have been
moved from the apartment because by then she would have
been in stage two of decomp has multiple stages, but

(36:49):
stage two of d COMP is bloat, okay, and this
is what we usually see in horror movies and stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
It's gross. There's nothing good that happens here.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
But basically there's a buildup of gases in the body
and because of that build up of gases, there can
get breaks in the skin, can happen, tears and so
bodily fluids will start leaking out at that point. Also,
that stage of decomp is when the flies and the
maggots start in a body, and you can imagine the

(37:18):
smell that would have been coming from her body would
have just been putrid by that many days passing, because
twenty four to seventy two hours out of after death,
your internal organs will start to decompose. But three to
five days after death, that's that bloat and that's that blood,
that bloody foam that you'll see sometimes, but it'll start
coming out of the nose and the mouth and all

(37:41):
these abdomen gases start to accumulate. Well, looking into Deshaun's
activities the day of the dumping, it was realized that
he had taken an uber really really late into the
early morning hours of the very night that she was dumped.
So they called upon the uber to ask what did

(38:02):
you see?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
What was going on?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
And can you tell us anything about that ride that
was taken? And the driver was very very cooperative, and
he said that he was called to Nitisha's apartments. By
the way, those are my words, not the drivers, but
he was called to those apartments and that Deshaun had
bags of clothes with him when he came out to
the car. He said that the man was moving out,
and so they opened the trunk. They threw all the

(38:26):
stuff in the trunk and then went about their way
on their trip. And this was in a way, this
was true what the driver was saying, because turns out
they had broken up. Looking now into this relationship, things
were not going well out obviously when you're yelling out
front of the neighbors.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
But they broke up.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
But Nititia was not a mean spirited girl, and so
she had allowed DeShawn to stay in the apartment for
a few days until he could find a new place
to go. Obviously, she was still being caring towards him
and wasn't just being a total ass about them breaking up.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
But.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
He hadn't left yet, and so the story was jiving.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
However, on the day that he took the uber, investigators
pulled surveillance video from the apartment complex, and when they
watched it, it was so breathtaking they almost could not
believe what they were watching happening right there on video.
In the video, there is a staircase I can think
of an apartment complex, there is a staircase that comes

(39:29):
down in this angle that you can see of this
one video, and at the end at the bottom of
the staircase. There is a door. It's like a utility
door with no window. You know, you push bar.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
To go out of it.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Well, DeShawn is seen carrying a large brownish comforter or
a sleeping bag. I can't really tell what it is,
and it's just slung over his shoulder, and it looks
like there's a huge body pillow with the white tip
of the pillow hanging out of the end of the
of the comforter. Deshaun's casual. He's dressed in jeans, he's

(40:03):
got a long sleeved t shirt, a beanie, and he's
wearing a COVID mask over his face. But the thing is,
investigators believed that that was not that big satchel or
that sleeping bag full of clothing over his shoulder for
moving out. They believe that the body of Nitetia was
in it and that he was carrying it. But I'm
gonna tell you now, and you might be thinking this,

(40:24):
this leaves a whole.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Lot of questions.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Considering what I just told you about the body, she
would have smelled too high heaven by that point, she
would have been leaking fluids, and if he was carrying
her body, you would have seen her poking out of
the end of the comforter. The comforter it was like open,
you could see in it, and it was just that

(40:49):
pillow looking thing in the end of it. Also kind
of hard to miss this one. Wouldn't the Uber driver
have noticed the smell of a dead body in his car?
Because I mean, I have found McDonald's in my car
for my children.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
That was there a little too long, and I was all.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Damn, you know what I'm saying, like shit, we're nasty
that we didn't throw that away. And now the thought
here is that maybe a whole ass dead woman was
in this car and the Uber driver didn't notice. Well,
that would soon be explained because looking at Deshaun's purchase
history online would answer some of the big affremistion aforementioned questions.

(41:29):
That was not a pillow poking out of that sleeping bag.
The white edge was actually the end of the white
body bag. Yes, body bags we traditionally think they are black.
This was a white body bag that he had purchased
on Amazon. And because I know right now you're like.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
The fuck you can order a body bag on Amazon, baby,
don't even pull over right now, you know it.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Don't even stop what you're doing wherever you're working. Don't
even stop because I got you. You're a freak like me,
and I will save you the time, because yes, I
stopped when I was taking my notes on this case
and I went to Amazon and I tried to buy
a body bag and guess what, everybody, yes, yes you can.

(42:19):
Deshaun had opted for the cheaper Grascow bag with a
four point five star rating, which the fuck who's rating body.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Bags on Amazon? So go with me real quick down
this ADHD moment of a rabbit hole. Because that's when
I noticed one hundred and seventeen people had rated body
bags on Amazon. So I was tripping the hell. So
of course I had to go read some of these
some of these uh ratings and see what it was about.

(42:49):
And I will tell you that we can all calm down,
take a sip out of our our coffee or whatever
right now. It's okay. These comments did make me feel
a whole lot better. One lady said it.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
It's a great prop for her graduation party. Her daughter
had graduated from Mortuary School. I'll take that, that's okay.
Another one said this was a great Halloween prop for
my party. Good feeling good about that. Another one said
that she bought these because she keeps all of her
good china in them in her garage, and the frogs
and things don't poop on it. Okay, grandma, grandma's buying

(43:21):
buying body bags. But it's okay, all legit purposes. Now,
the reason only had four point five ratings is because
I did see one guy said that I guess his
dog died, and he put his dog in it and
put it in the back of his car, and then
the bag ripped open and it was a big mess
in his car. So that's where you get the four
point five rating. All right, But back to the actual
point here. The body bag that he bought answered some

(43:43):
questions because what it promotes as why this bag is
a good one is that it's durable, leak resistant vinyl
made from this heavy duty thick, thick white vinyl. But
it also resists punctures and if fluid leaks, it won't
leak out of this bag. It's also got the full
length center zipper, so it's easy for it. Says dignified loading,

(44:07):
I think not in this situation, and great for transport
settings if you want to transport a body, and then
it's double sealed for safety. Heat sealed seams on both
ends reinforce protection of any smell, odors or leaks. So
now we know why that uber driver may not have

(44:31):
smelled anything. If the body is in this bag that
says that it's gonna knock down a ton of the odor,
well then you know it can make sense why he
didn't necessarily smell something. And also not to be ugly,
but not everybody has a fresh scent about their items
and their things that they carry. I know we've all
been behind somebody or sat next to someone. Then you're like,
ooof right, they don't smell very good. You know.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Uber drivers, I'm sure have picked up people that didn't
smell very good.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Maybe their stuff is dirty, so we're gonna have to
chalk it up to that. And at least the leaking
wouldn't have happened while he was carrying her because remember
she was stabbed eleven times. He knew that blood was
gonna be an issue here. But if that was the
case that she had been laying there for a few days,

(45:17):
I want to make sure you understand this too, she
would not have been actively bleeding. You're not actively gonna
bleed when your heart stops, your blood pools, and so
she would have bled out anyway. I'm assuming from the
eleven stab wounds she was dead when he was carrying her,
and dead people don't spurt blood. That's when it was
brought to the attention of investigators that a neighbor below

(45:39):
Nitsha had made a complaint. Why because some type of
nasty liquid was leaking.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Down through her ceiling. Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yes, how horrifying to wake up and some brown, foamy
liquid to be coming from your ceiling, not realizing that
your neighbor who's been murdered from above. So looking closer
now at the stairwell video too, And I'm gonna I'm
gonna post a picture of this on Patreon so you
can see it and you'll know you'll see exactly what
I'm talking about. If you're not looking for this, you

(46:13):
may not see it. But when you realize he's carrying
a body in front of people down a stairwell, you
can actually make out her arms hanging. Even though it's
in a bag, you can see you can see it.
And I think we can all agree that it's just
unnatural for someone who is deceased to be carried around
like this, total lack of respect, no dignity whatsoever. So

(46:37):
noticeably missing though from that video was something else. Baby Nilo.
He was not with Deshaun. He wasn't there. He wasn't
in the body bag with tiny Sho. We know because
she was dumped shortly thereafter. So the stroller that I
had mentioned before, family members were brought to look at it,

(46:58):
and they did confirm that is Nilo's stroller.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Not good.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
So based on all of this, Deshaun was arrested based
on the totality of the circumstance here, and he was
charged with murder, felonious assault, gross abuse of a corpse,
and tampering with evidence in terms of Nititia's case. But
Nilo was still out there somewhere and unaccounted for. Basically,
this was the timeline to sum it up so far.

(47:26):
In the early morning hours of the day after Nitisia
was stabbed to death, Deshaun put baby Nilo in his
stroller and he pushed him to the river bank where
he unbuckled him and tossed that three year old little boy,

(47:47):
still alive, into the icy water of the Ohio river
where that baby struggled, not knowing how to swim. He
had ridden peacefully in his little stroller because Deshaun was
taking him somewhere in the early morning hours. He had
no clue that he was riding peacefully to be murdered

(48:10):
in the most callous, cold hearted way I could ever
think to hurt a child, which I would never think
to hurt a child. He didn't know how to swim.
He was thrown in that icy water and he drowned.
I don't want to even expand on that anymore. On
this child's experience. We all know what it entailed and

(48:31):
it is too painful to even think about. I always
say children are off limits, and I stand by that.
The reality was that Tinisha lay stabbed to death in
their apartment while DeShawn then loaded up baby Nilo and
pushed him down to the river to murder him. DeShawn
then returned to her apartment, where he stayed with her

(48:55):
dead body until it started to become an issue, and
that's when he ordered the body bag. When it came in,
he put her decomposing body in the bag called an uber,
and carried her downstairs in the sleeping bag. Comforter thing
that he's got. He stuffed her in the trunk of
the uber and took her to dump in the river,

(49:16):
but she got caught on that ledge and never fell
all the way down to the water. When Nilo's father
reported him missing and then the stroller was idd by family,
the reality was that it was already too late. Nilo
had been gone this entire time. He died right after

(49:36):
his mama. Now, despite extensive searches, Nilo's body has never
been recovered. And when I say extensive searches, I mean
multiple searches.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Lots of divers and people have been out there. They've
just never recovered his little body.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Now, after his arrest, Deshaun was advised, well, guess what, buddy,
the state's going after the death penalty for you on
this one. So he, of course did what all hardened
criminals do. He faked he was crazy. He couldn't just
man up for what he had done with no problem. No,
he had to fake he was crazy. And of course,

(50:15):
only a few people are exempt from the death penalty, children,
pregnant women, and those proven to be mentally unsound. And
so since he was an adult and was unable to
be pregnant, that only left mentally ill as what he

(50:35):
could possibly try to claim to avoid being executed. So
a couple issues there, my boy, let's talk about that.
Mentally ill people don't research online how to clean up
blood after they murder somebody. You know why, because they
are mentally they're mentally incapable.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Okay, they can't do that.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
If they killed someone and they did not know right
from wrong, they would not be looking up how to
clean it up. They also don't try to clean up
crime scenes like you did, my boy.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
That they don't do.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
They also don't purchase body bags and then lie, actively
lie to the uber driver about what is inside of it.
You know why, because crazy people don't know the difference
between right and wrong. If they are legit, you are
not legit, my friend. That's called evil. Straight up evil

(51:27):
is what you are. And unfortunately for him, a psychologist
testified that he had been trying to fake symptoms of
mental illness, apparently to altogether avoid a trial, but he
was ultimately ruled mentally competent to stand trial, regardless of
whether he did have some minor personality disorders. Psychologists believe

(51:50):
wholeheartedly he knew right from wrong, and what he did
he did on purpose and because he wanted to. And
while this isn't the way that we should act in
a civilized society, I will have to let you know
that I could not help but chuckle when something happened
during one of the court hearings. Nilo's daddy. He was

(52:12):
there in the courtroom during one of the hearings, and
his emotions, seeing that son of a bitch stand up
there and act like this was just whatever. Another day
in court got the best of him, and that daddy
got up and he's superman, dove straight on to Deshaun
and he got in some good licks before he was subdued.

(52:34):
And I couldn't help a chuckle. And I know you're wrong, Kelly,
You're wrong. That well, that's why I'm not. I'm not
in charge of anything. I was glad to see him
get a few licks in. He was sentenced as the
dad NILA's dad. He was sentenced to do a few
days in jail, but I know it was worth it,
and I ain't mad at him. Courtrooms I'm telling you

(52:57):
they should always be held in high esteem and with
a certain level of korum. But I'm human and so
daddies love their babies, don't kill their babies.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
You won't get smoked in a courtroom. How about that
we can all agree there.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Hopefully, eventually though, there would be a plea agreement put
on the table and DeShawn would be sentenced to life
in prison without the possibility of parole after pleading guilty.
I would love to say at this point that there
is closure, but I don't believe in closure. To that end,
Nitsha's father said that no punishment will ever be good enough.

(53:34):
And this is a direct quote for him. Go where
you need to go, Go to hell. That's what N's
daddy says to DeShawn. He said, I don't forgive him.
Let God, and that poor man not only lost his
daughter to being savagely murdered, he lost his grandson to
be just killed in such an animalistic and brutal way.

(53:58):
But guess what else happened to man? His wife literally
died of a broken heart. He lost his wife shortly
after Nitisha was found murdered, so his whole family it
was destroyed behind this one person's evil act. And Nilo's
daddy also struggles still to this day, as you can imagine,

(54:21):
and a large portion of his struggle is based around
the fact that he does not have a place to
mourn his son.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
He never got to bury his body. He doesn't even
know where it is. Nobody does.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I don't know what kind of man could stand in
front of a courtroom and complain that he quote don't
want people in the room because it upsets him and
he hurts people when he mad end quote. But that
is one of the videos that I watched whenever Deshaun
was in court. He don't want people in that room
watching because he hurt people when he's mad.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Well, no fucking shit, Sherlock. That's why you're in the
courtroom to begin with, because you don't know how to
act and you're an animal. So if I was the judge,
I would have been like, sh Celeencio, be quiet. I
don't care what you want. You didn't care what Nititia wanted.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
You surely didn't care what Nilo wanted, and you didn't
care about what any of these family members wanted. So
I don't give a damn which you want in my courtroom.
But hey, I'm not a judge.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
For obvious reasons, Deshaun Brown is a coward in every sense.
Of the word, an unintelligent, broke loser who now gets
to spend a lifetime explaining to his cellmate how murdering
a toddler made him.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
A thug, a real thug. Well spoiler alert, Deshaun it didn't.
Little Nilo never got to grow up and chase his dreams,
and to me, it's unfair at best. In the meantime,
DeShawn Brown is still alive and thugging around a prison
on the taxpayer's dime. But who knows, y'all.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Maybe he'll choose to spend his time wisely behind bars.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Maybe he'll poss ptaibly level up in some way, because
when it's all said and done, I'm sure even garbage
dreams of being ship one day