November 14, 2025 • 37 mins
In this episode of Crime Wire Weekly, hosts Jim Chapman and Kelly Jennings discuss a series of trending crime stories, including the outrage after a 13 year old victim of a deepfake image gets expelled from school. In Miami an 18 year old is found mysteriously dead sparking an FBI investigation aboard a Carnival Cruise Ship. In Las Vegas a trial ensues for a pornstar accused of beheading the father of her (2) children. In Illinois a chiropractor is caught with 180 videos of patients in the nude on his computer. These stories and more today on Crime Wire Weekly!
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Timestamps
04:25 Illinois Chiropractor Found with 180 Different Patient’s Nude Videos.
09:00 Mysterious Death of 18 Year Old Aboard Carnival Cruise Ship.
14:30 Former Local Fox News Anchor Kills Mother in Kansas.
19:10 Louisiana 13 Year old Deepfake Victim Expelled From School.
37:00 Sex Offender Caught After Over a Decade on the Run.
42:00 Las Vegas Pornstar Trial Underway for Beheading Partner.
46:00 Louisiana Man Fakes Limp to Rob Bank.
49:55 Texas Woman Tortured for Months Leads to Arrest of (5) People.
54:08 Indiana Man Shoots (2) Dogs While Deer Hunting.
56:15 Texas Woman Blames Designer High Hills on Wreck That Kills a Man on Date.
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*This is a preview, links to listen to the full podcast by following "Crime Wire Weekly" are below.
Timestamps
04:25 Illinois Chiropractor Found with 180 Different Patient’s Nude Videos.
09:00 Mysterious Death of 18 Year Old Aboard Carnival Cruise Ship.
14:30 Former Local Fox News Anchor Kills Mother in Kansas.
19:10 Louisiana 13 Year old Deepfake Victim Expelled From School.
37:00 Sex Offender Caught After Over a Decade on the Run.
42:00 Las Vegas Pornstar Trial Underway for Beheading Partner.
46:00 Louisiana Man Fakes Limp to Rob Bank.
49:55 Texas Woman Tortured for Months Leads to Arrest of (5) People.
54:08 Indiana Man Shoots (2) Dogs While Deer Hunting.
56:15 Texas Woman Blames Designer High Hills on Wreck That Kills a Man on Date.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
All right, folks, what an episode we have coming your
way today, And look at some of the topics we
have coming up. In Illinois, a car repractor is accused
of secretly recording one hundred and eighty patients in the nude.
In Miami, the mysterious death of an eighteen year old
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raises safety concerns in the cruise industry. In Kansas, a
former local Fox news anchor is accused of stabbing her
mother to death. In Louisiana, a female student thirteen years
old is expelled after fighting a male who made a
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deep fake porn image of her, and many are infuriated
in the Bayou State. We're going to talk about that.
In Las Vegas, a porn star is arrested after beheading
the father of her two children following an affair with
his step son. Yeah, there's a lot of connections we
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got to make on that one, but it's pretty wild.
These stories and more are coming at you today on
Crime Wire Weekly.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm Jim Chapman and I'm Kelly Jennings.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Kelly Jennings, you got your tree up yet?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Uh? Well, that is difficult.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Everybody's putting their tree up before thanks.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I put a little tiny tree up in my kitchen.
But I made a Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Tree, a Thanksgiving tree, that's good.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I found some antique brass and copper little they look
like little utensils and stuff from the kitchen. I was like,
this will be cute, and so I made ornaments and
it's a Thanksgiving little tiny tree.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, it's interesting here in South Louisiana. When you get
your first cold snap, that's when everyone's like, we need
to put up the Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
A gumbo is what we did.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well that too, That also happens during cold snaps. But
it's interesting how many people this weekend because we had
some cold weather. We actually had our first freeze way
early into the season here in South Louisiana. And on
Facebook it was just covered with people putting up trees
and putting up pictures. A lot of beautiful trees out there.
(02:13):
I'm not against it. I feel so fid whenever you
want to do it, do it.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I feel joy in my heart. I feel so festive.
And so my husband's like, no, you have to wait
till Thanksgiving. I said, you can wait for whatever you want,
but I will be putting that Christmas tree up sooner
than later. Yeah's Thanksgiving in the kitchen, and we can
have Christmas in the living.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Room, right. And you know one great thing is we
have Marti Gras here in Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
A lot of people don't thank you lord. You know,
they're not putting up a tree is fun.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Taking it down kind of sucks because the season's over
as it is, and you know, it's a lot of work.
So here in South Louisiana we have Marti Gras just
a couple of months after Christmas. And most people here
don't even take their tree down. They just take the
decorations off and they're making a Marti.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Gras tree done. Oh my god, I love Marty.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Girl. There you go. All right? You were you got
anything else? So you want to get in some crime?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well I wanted to can I can I tell you
a little story real quick? Sure the people might like
this one. I went to another antique store. I love
going to them. Anyway. This old lady was sitting there
and we were talking. She said, girl, you never know
who a criminal is. And I said, you're right. Now.
This woman's like seventy. I said, you're right, she's like
like myself. And I said, you're a criminal. She said yeah.
I said, girl, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Because like she was fancy, she had jewels and stuff.
And she said, I fed a boiled peanut to a coyote.
And I said what they they the police ticketed her.
She had to pay one hundred and seventy five dollars
fine for free jail. I said, bish, I'd have been
up in that jail fist fighting before I hid one
hundred and seventy five dollars fine for feeding a peanut
to a coyote. But no, she was not. She was not.
(03:55):
She said they were up in the mountains somewhere I
don't know, and uh it was. She said. There were
cameras everywhere, and it was. There were signs that said
don't feed the coyotes. But uh, but she did.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Why she got a feeding on it? It was hungry
coyote would have tore her. See, that's why they're looking
out for people, because they got morons and bring hamburgers
to bears. Here, come here, a little cute bear.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That bear. I would have croucheted a little knit sweater
and loved it.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We'd be wading about you.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Y'all watch it out there. I'll be feeding no, no
peanuts to coyotes.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
All right, Well, we're gonna go to Illinois. We're gonna
tell you not about a coyote. We're going to tell
you about a carropractor.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Who fa carrapractor?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What do you chiropractor?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Oh my god, did y'all hear that? Chiropractic?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
All right, y'all let us know.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
How do you know it's chiropractor? I'm Southern cart all right?
Illinois chiropractor faces multiple felony charges after prosecutors said he
secretly recorded new videos of more than one hundred Native patients,
including children, inside of his office. David Hanson, who is
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owner of Hanson Family Chiropractic, was charged Thursday with five
counts of producing child pornography, three counts of disseminating child born,
six counts of possessing child born, and three counts of
unauthorized video recording of a minor through or underclothing. And
that one I wasn't I'm not really sure. I guess
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he was just focusing on him or something, and it
was a weird charge of trying to kind of look
it up, But it's a felony. Nonetheless, According to the
Kane County State attorney's office. Hanson is accused of using
hidden cameras to record patients as a dressed or were
unclothed official save Victims ranged in age from young children
to adults and were mostly female. Authority said many of
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the recordings appeared to be made in a what's known
as a red light room used for red light and
near infrared light thing therapy, so everybody started of red
light therapy supposedly very good for you. Hanson allegedly placed
hidden cameras throughout the office to capture that footage. Police
set hands and also possessed and share videos containing child's
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sexual abuse material that was not connected to his practice.
Law enforcement search Sheenson's home and office Wednesday before taking
him into custody. That night, he appeared in court for
a pre trial detention hearing and prosecutors ordered for him
to remain in jail. The court granted the request and
Hansom will be held wise while his case is spending,
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so he got a no bond order. His next appearance
is scheduled for November tenth at nine am.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So I would go out on a limb here and
guess you know, they have those pin cameras and he
may have been with the pin camera, like you know,
lifting shirt to you know, pretend to be checking something
and filming under the clothing like that, but or down
shirts or upskirts or I don't know anything of that nature.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
But this is a predator totally.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And you know, technology, It's one of the bad things
with technology is there's so many ways now they have
so many ways to conceal cameras. You can make them
look like cell phone chargers. You can make them look
like fire alarms where the camera's actually the inside the
fire alarm, and it can film like a whole room.
(07:23):
You know, it's ridiculous, and if you're not looking for it,
you're probably not going to catch it. I'd be interested
to know how he got caught.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I my brain goes to this. I don't know anybody else,
but my brain goes to the thought of not just
what he did, but preparing for what he did. So
that means that this man was in his practice when
nobody was there and he was thinking about how to
angle these cameras, where to put them. Like the preparation
involved in this is really sick if you really think
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it through everything he had to go through to try
to get these shots and to get this film done.
It's a level of predation. That's that's scary. And you
go in here expecting to be you know, adjusted and
having a medical problem and to know or God forbid,
you brought your kid. Yeah kid, Yeah, I know, That's
what I'm saying. And then to know that they were
being taken advantage of is sick.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah really yeah. And a person in a with a
level of trust, I mean, this is a doctor, so
uh kind of adds insult to injury. But you know,
just a quick little side note on that. I at
one point it's it's strange when you cover crime for
a living, uh, how your brain works. And I actually
(08:35):
at one point wanted to put one of those things
in the bathroom here at the office that it makes
it smell good likely freshener. Yeah shoots the freshener out
and I plugged it in and I'm like that kind
of looks like one.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Of those devices.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Because I cover this so much, and I'm like, screw that,
I'm not putting that in here. Someone go to the
bathroom and think, you're, yeah, I'm doing something I shouldn't
be doing.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Let's go to Florida. We always go to Florida, man
we go Louisiana, Florida in these stories. But the family
of an eighteen year old her name was Anna Kepner,
who was reported dead while aboard the Carnival Horizon cruise
ship on Saturday, says that they will remember her as
a happy, bubbly, straight a student with a bright future ahead. Anna,
who was set to graduate from high school in May,
was traveling aboard the ship on a route from Miami
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to the Caribbean when she died. Details surrounding her death
have not been released. The ship returned to Miami on Saturday,
where the FBI has since opened an investigation into her death.
And when she walked into her room, she would just
light it up, according to her family, who told ABC
News that if you were sad, she would make you laugh,
she would joke around, and she would be the funniest
little person in the room. Carnival Cruise Line confirmed her
(09:45):
passing in a statement, saying our focus is on supporting
the family of our guest and cooperating with the FBI.
Her family says they are still coming to terms with
the loss of a young woman filled with dreams and
excitement for her future. She had just finished taking the
test to join them military and she was already talking
to recruiters who had chosen her career path. She wanted
to do something that would help her community. The family
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hopes Anna will be remembered for her generosity and spirit.
She was deeply involved in her community, volunteering in her
grandparents' fifty five plus neighborhood and helping out local businesses
in her hometown of Titusville, Florida. She was a people person.
She loved being around people. She had that type of
energy that just drew you in with her smile and
the way she carried herself. She was just such an
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easy person to talk to. Cruise ship death cases can
be very complex for law enforcement. The FBI has jurisdiction
to handle cases when a crime occurs in international waters
and it falls under what is called special maritime jurisdiction
laws that mandate this. For example, if a cruise departs
from Miami, that gives FBI Miami jurisdiction. If it's returning
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in or out of a US cruise port, and if
the alleged crime occurred in international waters, then that's the
FBI's responsibility as well.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You know strange story here in that there is some
reporting out there that I saw when this first came out,
and some of this reporting is saying she was stabbed
to death and found wrapped in sheets in her room.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Who's report do you remember?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I don't want to. It was similar to what we do,
and but this person is a very very large TikTok
crater and covers a lot of crime, does a great
job with it. The issue here is, you know, I
always try to source this with three sources, and that's
(11:39):
the only person I can find saying that. Doesn't mean
they're inaccurate on it. Maybe this person has more information
than the general public. Sometimes people will feed them leads
that they don't feed anybody else. But the issue I'm
running into is the police haven't said it. None of
your typical news outlets Taby's, NBCCBS, Fox, none of them
(12:03):
are reporting how she died yet have they found her.
And I find that strange because usually if you're found
dead anywhere, it says how you were found dead, what
you died of, And if you read the the mainstream articles,
they just say she was found dead. They don't, so
it makes me think the police haven't released that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yet right well to me, that would tell me the
other one.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Is releasing that well, which is strange.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Which is not smart. Also because if the police in
law enforcement is trying to keep this close to their chest,
obviously it's because there's something that's needing, you know. They
don't want to release anything that might compromise the integrity
of an investigation, because if she died of natural causes,
that would be you know, found rather easily. And so
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whoever fed that information, if it's true, has done a
disservice to the family and my humble opinion because now
if that's true, whoever did this knows what at minimum
is being swirled around in the inner circles, you know
what I mean. So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well, but when you find somebody and they've been shot,
you say they've been shot. When you find somebody and
no foul play is expected, or you're looking into foul play,
maybe they were choked to death, but you can't really
tell whatever I mean. It's typically reported when someone's murdered
that they were found, you know, But if they're.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
In a cat strangled at that my brain goes here.
And again I'm not I've never investigated anything you know,
on a cruise everything, But my brain goes to we're
in a confined space with a limited number of people
on the ship, and to minimize any information of what
has happened. Then when we're talking in questioning people, obviously
the person who's done this is going to be lying.
Any information that gets out is a step up for
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that person to recreate history or recreate come up with something.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So yeah, I mean, everybody in that industry scoop story
so these What.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Was weird was that they didn't say she was found
dead like on the ship. So they made me think,
I know, but it made me think, well did she
jump off of it like they because they didn't give much.
I know she didn't, But I'm saying because it was
so limited in information, that is making me believe that
this is going to be a serious case whenever it's
you know, whenever it's released. Yes, even what was her name,
(14:18):
Ammy Bradley or whatever when she was missing, they at
least said she was missing.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You know, Well they're definitely saying she was dead, but
they just no information as to how. So this person
may be right that's reporting this, and like I say,
maybe they got that from a family member. I mean
sometimes family members would communicate with certain people that they
follow and that's it.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I would suggest not doing that, but well, you know
you trust, you trust?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I guess trust? Do you trust? We'll go to Kansas
and I'm going to tell you about a former morning
TV news anchor who was charged with first re murder
in the stabbing of her eighty year old mother. Angel
Anne Mock, who is forty seven, who previously worked for
Fox two News in Saint Louis, and she didn't just
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work there, she anchored the news. She has been charged
with first degree murder and the stabbing of her mother,
Anita Avers. This from the Sedgwick County District Attorney's office.
Mike was arrested in Wichita, Kansas, after police say Avers
was killed inside the home they shared. When officers responded
to the home around seven point fifty am, they found
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Mock outside with cuts on her hands and she was
treated with multiple stab wounds. Mock Avers her mother, Mick
was treated in the hospital for injuries to her hands
before being booked into the jail. Mike worked as a
morning newsachor at Fox two in Saint Louis from twenty
eleven to twenty fifteen, and also held positions at Fox
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twenty five in Oclambas City. At the time of her arrest,
she was employed in sales at a data management software company.
Neighbors in the community were traumatized after a bloodied Mock
allegedly emerged from the home. Quote, there was a woman
who approached our vehicle with blood all over her hands
and body and asked us to call nine one one.
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That from a neighbor Castro. The neighbor told the outlet
that Mock told her took her boyfriend's phone, ran back
inside the house, where she called authorities, and allegedly claimed
she stabbed her mother to save herself that according to
the Sedgwick County dispatchers, Mock's motive for the stabbing remains unclear.
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But you know, I've researched what this woman looked like,
you know, you're always curious. And I found a picture
of her when she was anchoring the news, and then
a picture of her and her arrest. And I don't
know what has happened to this woman since twenty fifteen
when she was anchoring the news, But in the first
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picture and I'll put these on the Facebook page. In
the first picture, she's absolutely someone that would take you
brought away when she walked in a room, just that gorgeous, stunning,
typical Fox News anchor. Right the next picture, she looks
like she has had a very rough time from twenty
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fifteen to now. And of course you could be beautiful
and stab your mother to death. I'm not saying that
that doesn't exist, but we all develop some sort of
predposite disposition to what people. You know, you hear a
story like that and you think this person has a
certain look to him. I'll just let you see the
pictures and you judge for yourself. But I think what
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you're saying woman is claiming self defense on this.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah. I think what you're saying real quick about the
looks thing is that the first picture she looks very
put together. This looks like a person who has a
lot of self esteem and confidence and owns a room.
And then the second one looks she looks very she
looks like she's low self esteem, she looks like she's
let herself go. She looks like so maybe there's some
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type of mental health component to this, or maybe she
just didn't want to dress up anymore, but to stab
your mother to death is a level of vi. I mean,
that is such a personal level of violence. And what
her moment are eighties so and.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yes, and I don't know the situation. I do want
to say this. Look, she's claiming self defense. And some
of these people when they get Alzheimer's, they get very mean.
I'm not saying her mother had that, and I've been
through an Alzheimer's situation now that was not the very
mean type of Alzheimer's, but some of them will attack you. Well,
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I don't know if that occurred in this situation.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
But to me, and again we don't have all the details,
but if she's eighty something years old, kicker on her
knee and she'll fall down like you stabbed her to death,
And that just seems like a very high level of
violence towards an eighty something year old. Again, again we
don't know if the grandma had had a gun pointed
at her, we don't know, and that could be the case, but.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Kiler she could be.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, but you have to one has to wonder stabbing
an old lady like that over and over again seems
a bit much for self defense for self defense claim.
So you know, we'll see all right now, if you
are a parent, this is gonna make you. This is
gonna make your blood boil. And if it doesn't, we
got to talk because this is going to be right here.
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In Louisiana, a thirteen year old student was expelled from
sixth Ward Middle School after hitting a male classmate who
she said created and shared a deep fake pornographic image
of her. According to her family's lawyers, the family, now
represented by Batonu's attorneys Greg Miller and Morgan Young, planned
to file a federal lawsuit against the Lafouche Parish school district.
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The incident occurred in August when school began. The girl's father,
Joseph Daniels, and the attorneys say that the young girl
endured bullying after the deep fake nude image was circulated
throughout the school. Deep fake images are created using artificial
intelligence and can appear realistic enough to deceive viewers. Attorney
Miller said school leaders at sixth Ward Middle School failed
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to address the girl's complaints about the circulating image despite
her reporting it to school leaders. The school board's actions
in this case are reprehensible. Miller said, my client's daughter
was begging them all day to put a stop to this.
Not only did they not put a stop to it,
they put her on the bus with the perpetrator. When
the girl saw the photo being shared again on the
school bus, she hit the boy she said was responsible
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for creating it. She was later expelled from school. Daniel
said he disagreed with his daughter's physical response, but felt
the punishment was excessive. I do not approve of her
putting hands on the little boy, so suspension would have
been justified in my mind, but expulsion was extremely overboard.
The case became a focal point at the Olafouche Parish
school board meeting last week, where community members expressed outrage
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over the district's handling of the situation. During the meeting,
speakers describe how the girl tried to contact her father
during the day, but was told by school officials that
parents did not need to be involved. The board voted
to allow the student to return to school on probation,
but the expulsion remains on her record, according to her father.
Attorney Young joined in with others who criticized the district's response.
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I think the biggest failure is that they failed to
take accountability for their role and the fault in it
or their fault in it. Instead, they chose to shift
the narrative onto a thirteen year old girl's reaction after
being sexually exploited all day. Attorney Miller said he will
file federal lawsuit against the Lafouche Parish School District in
the coming weeks. The case has gained attention on social
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media platforms, including TikTok with nearly two hours with a
nearly two hour school board meeting viewed more than forty
thousand times. Daniel said the experience has affected his confidence
in the school system at this point. Of course, it's
shaking my faith. I completely feel like they failed all
of the kids. Despite the situation, Daniel said he holds
no animosity toward the male student or his family. Honestly,
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I have no ill will towards the young man or
his family. Kids are kids and they do dumb things
just like adults do, so, especially at that age, they
don't comprehend the severity of what they do. The Lafuchpear
School District said it could not comment on specifics because
of federal privacy guidelines. The superintendent said the district immediately
reported the case to law enforcement and an investigation is ongoing.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, and I got some things to say about this
you got. First of all, let me say this one
pissed me off so bad that I'm doing an exposed
episode on it next week. It is absolutely obviously shocking.
But folks deep fakes. Now, with the technology we have,
(22:43):
I can literally well I can't do it because I
ain't looked.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Up how to do it.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
But people, and obviously thirteen year old kids even can
make these images that look exactly like you. Now, obviously
no one knew what this thirteen year old body looked
like underneath her clothes, but you can find a newd
image somewhere that might resemble it and superimpose her face
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on it. And this isn't what it used to be
where you can tell the face was superimposed. It looks legit.
And I'll give you a little inside information that was
not said in that article. They were harassing her because
in addition to the fact that she you know, it
was a fake nude, they were harassing her because this
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fake nude had a, for lack of a better word,
a big bush. And so the kids were laughing at
her for what her vagina looked like with unshaven if
you will, and I'll tell you how bad it got.
This kid showed the pictures. She reported it as she's
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supposed to. Now, She went through like half the day
of school just mortified because he's texting this picture to everybody.
She reports it to the principal, and the principal says, okay,
we're going to take care of it. Later on that day,
still getting harassed by everybody that's seen this picture, she
goes back up there, talks to the guidance counselor and says,
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I want to call my dad, and the guidance counselor
would not let her call her dad at that point.
From let me finish. From there, she goes back to
her class. And here's where they were really stupid. This
made absolutely no sense. The bus comes, he rides the
same bus she does. The school's been made aware he's
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harassing her with a nude fake photo, okay, which they
said they didn't believe her. Essentially, she gets on the
bus and this kid is sharing the picture on the
bus when she gets on it. So she gets on
the bus, she sits down. She looks over and this
kid's got his phone open with this deep fake photo
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of her, and he's showing another kid and she reaches
up and she swats him, not hits him. She swats
him on the top of the head, like you'd swat
your husband or something like that if he made a
snod comment about you when you walk past him, swats him.
The kid doesn't even react to the swat. It was
that soft when she hit him. They expelled her for that.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
So I, okay, I'm gonna go somewhere with this, and
I think people are going to get frustrated with me,
but just hanging there. So whenever the photo was shared,
I think this is where the miscommunication is going to
come in. And there's fault on the school to an
extent here. But if the child came forward to the
office and said this is being passed around, obviously they're
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gonna say, okay, we're going to look into it and
gather information. What is their name, what happened, blah blah blah,
al right, go back to class, let us handle it
where the problem started. In my humble opinion is that
adults respond to things differently than kids. So the adults
are going to take their time to investigate this to
figure out what's going on to try to get the image.
I'm sure see what was going on, but they probably
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failed to realize that this is huge to a kid,
to an adult who who you know it's fake. No
listen to me though, for an adult that knows that
this is fake, I think they took too long because
they're like, it's fake. You know, if it's fake, we'll
figure it out. How in the world they could send
her back to class knowing that level of it.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's child born, kil I know.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
But what I'm saying is they took too long to
investigate this, and they sent right. That's what I'm trying
to say though, But they sent the kid back expecting
the kid to understand that they've got to take the
time to investigate it. Time out come see, and whenever
they failed to let her call her parents, that was
a mess up too, because now that just looks like
they're trying to cover something up. What probably happened is
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the counselor said, listen, ad men is handling it. You're
gonna go back to class. We're not gonna call dad
right now, because they didn't want dad coming up there
and screaming and hollering while they still didn't have it
handled yet. I'm not saying that's good looking back at
what we know now, but in the moment they were
probably trying to figure it out still, but they didn't
do it fast enough. Like that boy should have been
(27:12):
snatched that instant, That device should have been taken that instant,
that very instant. The SRO should have been involved that instant,
the SR was involved immediately.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, let me tell you. Let me look, I love
SROs and you'll know no one is more pro police
than me. But let me tell you what the SR
did in this situation. To me, he pulls up Snapchat
and he says, I don't say any picture because the
kid was also incidentally sharing it on Snapchat.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, he's not going to see it on Snapchat if
it's a private snap.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Well he exactly, Wow, you just nailed it. They disappear
and he can share with just certain people. Right. Well,
this SR pulls it up and he says, oh, he
didn't put anything on Snapchat.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
So what happened is the kid probably went in and
said he's putting it on Snapchat. SRO assume who's the
public Snapchat? But if they left it, that's still ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Are you that I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Mean to say this, but are you that dumb that
you don't know that you can go on Snapchat and
just share with friends? So when the SRO saw that, Okay,
the assumption that's being made from the attorneys for this
girl and I get at their attorneys, but the assumption,
and it seems like it makes sense, is they didn't
believe her. Oh there's nothing on it snapchat. If if
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if they're telling you this kid sharing this on Snapchat
talking to the girl, then they're lying to you because
it's not on there. They're just trying to get your
gay and upset you.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
But the other side of this, though, and I'm not
defending your child, well listen to me though, No, as
far as investigating this, and I'm telling you because I've
seen very very similar things while on campus, is that
you can't just flat out accuse a kid either, because
your hands are tied there. So ADMIN has to go
through all of these steps without alerting children, without without
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fueling the trying to find exactly who saw the message,
exactly what they saw, document everything to a t so
that it's all about lawsuits. Lawsuits have become the problems
where ADMIN can't just run in and snatch out a
kid like we like they did back in the good
old days, and say what the hell is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But when you're Kelly, when I'm sorry, If I'm the
principal and a kid comes to me and says another
kid is disseminating child porn, I'm pulling him out of
class right there. I'm not doing an investigation first, behind
the scenes. I'm pulling him out of class. And here's
where the really stupid thing came in. You put him
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on the bus with the girl at the end of
the day, knowing all that there's all this tension, right,
so then you're surprised when the girl swats him on
the head.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I'm not. And if I was her father or her mother,
I would have said, no problem, come home, no problem.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
She's expelled, she's not just suspended.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I would have done exactly what these parents are doing.
I think I agree. I'm not arguing that. What I'm
saying is I'm playing Devil's advocate right now and I'm
just telling you that the rules because of lawsuits, have
made it so incredibly difficult to handle. Now. When she
reported this, if she reported this at seven am, and
then that kid was put on the bus with that
kid again in the afternoon. Huge problem, massive problem now
(30:21):
if I know. But just for the listeners, if she
reported it to them at noon at lunchtime, and then
two hours two and a half hours later, she was
put back on the bus with them, Okay, well they didn't.
You know, two and a half hours isn't a lot
of time to figure out exactly what's going on. So
I think all of that little minutia is going to
come into this and you know, they are going to
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have to make policy changes. But the reality is that
we are not smart enough to deal with the advancements
in technology. We are not smart. AI is out of
our league at this point, and it's out of control.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And I think that was some of the issue with
this case is as a matter of fact, in the
episode to be doing, I'm going to be sharing a
lot of the clips from the school board meeting, But
there was there's in a particular attorney that I have
some mad respect for. I think, in my opinion, he's
the best attorney in Louisiana right now. And I know
that list can go deep and change for everybody, but
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his last name is or I call him an attorney
or and attorney or represented a case that we covered
with the LSU football player that killed himself after the
reck We covered this on Crime ar weekly. But same attorney,
very sharp, and he stood up in this in this
board meeting, and he even said no offense to one
(31:36):
of the school board members. He says, no offense. But
we're in twenty twenty five, a lot changed. This was
an older, very much older school board member who cannot
grasp the fact that you can make a deep fake
that looks exactly like someone exactly. They're like, how could
you not tell? And he's like, this is twenty twenty five, lady, Yeah,
you're eighty six. He didn't say that, but I'm sure
(31:57):
that's what he was insinuating you you.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Can't grasp this.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I'm sure there were a lot of people at that
school that initially when hearing this, probably didn't even know
what a deep think was because they don't listen to
our show, and they cannot grasp the fact of how
real this looks.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
It looks very real.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
This would be my statement, Can I finish? Yeah, but
I want to tell you the photo you're talking about.
I would have said to them. If you can't grasp this,
I'm going to print it out and I'm going to
post it on the front of the school. Maybe then
you'll understand how horrific this is. Because it's that horrific.
They can't seem to understand that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, right, well they couldn't grasp it at the beginning obviously,
But the mistake here and what the claim is, and
then we'll wrap this up. Nobody's arguing that there shouldn't
be any discipline. I would argue it personally, as a
as just a general lam in person with kids, I
would argue that I have no problem with our hitting
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that kid, swatting him. She didn't beat shit out of him.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
These are two thirteen year olds and she's the girl,
he's the boy.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Come on. But the parents, to their credit, are not arguing, Hey,
she should have been suspended, she shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Have hit the boy.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, I don't you know. I've told her that was
not the right thing to do. So he's not arguing that.
The argument here and why there's a suit is they
expelled her from school and put her in an alternative school. Well,
that that was the plan, and an alternative school is
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a school for bad people.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Guess what happens when she goes there.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
This is the girl that got in no trouble in
regular school, she had great grades. She goes to the
alternative school failing. Yeah, it's where she clearly pulled out
of her environment for something that that poor girl can't
wrap around her mind.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
What she has done wrong? Well, the school, she did it.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
She took every fucking step you should take to get
this kid away from you and get him to quit
a rassing you, and nobody would listen to her.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And this is how it suicides.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Starts with your angry I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And everything else. Is this harassment?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Ever? Shit like this?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Well, this, I'm sorry pisses me off.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No it should, because this is where there's a failure
to protect the child. And what happened is you failed
to protect the child. And then a thirteen year old
mind is going, oh my god, no one's listening to me,
no one's doing anything. The only thing I can do
is result to slap in him, Like what do I do?
I've done everything I'm supposed to do. I'm humiliated. I'm
humiliated amongst all of my peers. They don't have the
emotional capacity to handle this their kids. They're kids, an adult,
(34:41):
and that's what I'm saying. This timeline went too slow.
And I guarantee you there should be a policy change
that comes out of this. If ever there's anything AI
deep fake whatever from the get go, that should take precedents,
especially when sexual in nature. Yeah, that should take precedence
over anything happening at that school right now, because now,
if that child goes and does hurt herself or something
comes out of this, you are to blame for it
(35:03):
because you fail to act in an appropriate timeframe. And
that's I think where they're gonna get sunk.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
That's that's correct and last thing on that, and then
we've got to move on.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
From discipline his ass too.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, when I was in high school, and this is
this is prior to high school, this age group. But
when I was a freshman in high school, Uh, there
was a guy at one of the breaks, you know,
you get these fifteen minute breaks, Uh, and he thought
it'd be funny to try to embarrass me in front
of a girl. And I beat that ass. I beat
(35:37):
that ass because I like that girl. When you're gonna
try it because he liked her, he's gonna try to
embarrass me, and I'm like, I ain't gonna happen here.
I'm about to beat your ass and really impress her.
And I did, kd wherever you're at, you know who
you are. I whipped your ass, Keith Dawphin, No, it's
not kick. How did you know?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
But the the thing about it is I went to
the office and Kelly's grandfather actually paddled me.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
For you shouldn't have hit him.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I got that paddle. Hey you Eric, Look he didn't
play coach Corter.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
My hero, my coworker, that's right.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Paddled my ass and uh And that straightened me up
for a little while. This girl swatted somebody for sharing
a fake need image of her. I think this is
a travesty.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
It is.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I think they need to make it right with this girl.
And I do think they need to pay some money
for this.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
They need to because the only way this these Lafuchi
Parish schools are going to learn is that they got
to pay in their pocketbook.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
To me personally, and I don't have one hundred percent
of the detail, but I will tell you this just
as a human being, as an adult and as a parent,
who's been in the school system as well. An apology
should go a long way, and if they will address
these parents who seem completely reasonable. These parents seem completely
reasonable and say we should have handled this differently, publicly
(36:56):
apologize for this and state the changes we plan to
make as a result of this. They're going to fork
out some cash. I don't know what else they can do.
It's horrible, but they can make this right. Whether they
choose to stay hard nos, that's going to be on them,
and I think that they should pay huge if they
don't make it right.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
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sex offender who spent thirteen years on the run, but
he's now in custody. Hey everyone, Crime Wire Weekly has
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All right, folks, what an episode we have coming your
way today, And look at some of the topics we
have coming up. In Illinois, a car repractor is accused
of secretly recording one hundred and eighty patients in the nude.
In Miami, the mysterious death of an eighteen year old
(00:30):
raises safety concerns in the cruise industry. In Kansas, a
former local Fox news anchor is accused of stabbing her
mother to death. In Louisiana, a female student thirteen years
old is expelled after fighting a male who made a
(00:51):
deep fake porn image of her, and many are infuriated
in the Bayou State. We're going to talk about that.
In Las Vegas, a porn star is arrested after beheading
the father of her two children following an affair with
his step son. Yeah, there's a lot of connections we
(01:11):
got to make on that one, but it's pretty wild.
These stories and more are coming at you today on
Crime Wire Weekly.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm Jim Chapman and I'm Kelly Jennings.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Kelly Jennings, you got your tree up yet?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Uh? Well, that is difficult.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Everybody's putting their tree up before thanks.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I put a little tiny tree up in my kitchen.
But I made a Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Tree, a Thanksgiving tree, that's good.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I found some antique brass and copper little they look
like little utensils and stuff from the kitchen. I was like,
this will be cute, and so I made ornaments and
it's a Thanksgiving little tiny tree.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well, it's interesting here in South Louisiana. When you get
your first cold snap, that's when everyone's like, we need
to put up the Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
A gumbo is what we did.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well that too, That also happens during cold snaps. But
it's interesting how many people this weekend because we had
some cold weather. We actually had our first freeze way
early into the season here in South Louisiana. And on
Facebook it was just covered with people putting up trees
and putting up pictures. A lot of beautiful trees out there.
(02:13):
I'm not against it. I feel so fid whenever you
want to do it, do it.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I feel joy in my heart. I feel so festive.
And so my husband's like, no, you have to wait
till Thanksgiving. I said, you can wait for whatever you want,
but I will be putting that Christmas tree up sooner
than later. Yeah's Thanksgiving in the kitchen, and we can
have Christmas in the living.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Room, right. And you know one great thing is we
have Marti Gras here in Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
A lot of people don't thank you lord. You know,
they're not putting up a tree is fun.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Taking it down kind of sucks because the season's over
as it is, and you know, it's a lot of work.
So here in South Louisiana we have Marti Gras just
a couple of months after Christmas. And most people here
don't even take their tree down. They just take the
decorations off and they're making a Marti.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Gras tree done. Oh my god, I love Marty.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Girl. There you go. All right? You were you got
anything else? So you want to get in some crime?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well I wanted to can I can I tell you
a little story real quick? Sure the people might like
this one. I went to another antique store. I love
going to them. Anyway. This old lady was sitting there
and we were talking. She said, girl, you never know
who a criminal is. And I said, you're right. Now.
This woman's like seventy. I said, you're right, she's like
like myself. And I said, you're a criminal. She said yeah.
I said, girl, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Because like she was fancy, she had jewels and stuff.
And she said, I fed a boiled peanut to a coyote.
And I said what they they the police ticketed her.
She had to pay one hundred and seventy five dollars
fine for free jail. I said, bish, I'd have been
up in that jail fist fighting before I hid one
hundred and seventy five dollars fine for feeding a peanut
to a coyote. But no, she was not. She was not.
(03:55):
She said they were up in the mountains somewhere I
don't know, and uh it was. She said. There were
cameras everywhere, and it was. There were signs that said
don't feed the coyotes. But uh, but she did.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Why she got a feeding on it? It was hungry
coyote would have tore her. See, that's why they're looking
out for people, because they got morons and bring hamburgers
to bears. Here, come here, a little cute bear.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That bear. I would have croucheted a little knit sweater
and loved it.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We'd be wading about you.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Y'all watch it out there. I'll be feeding no, no
peanuts to coyotes.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
All right, Well, we're gonna go to Illinois. We're gonna
tell you not about a coyote. We're going to tell
you about a carropractor.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Who fa carrapractor?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What do you chiropractor?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Oh my god, did y'all hear that? Chiropractic?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
All right, y'all let us know.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
How do you know it's chiropractor? I'm Southern cart all right?
Illinois chiropractor faces multiple felony charges after prosecutors said he
secretly recorded new videos of more than one hundred Native patients,
including children, inside of his office. David Hanson, who is
(05:05):
owner of Hanson Family Chiropractic, was charged Thursday with five
counts of producing child pornography, three counts of disseminating child born,
six counts of possessing child born, and three counts of
unauthorized video recording of a minor through or underclothing. And
that one I wasn't I'm not really sure. I guess
(05:29):
he was just focusing on him or something, and it
was a weird charge of trying to kind of look
it up, But it's a felony. Nonetheless, According to the
Kane County State attorney's office. Hanson is accused of using
hidden cameras to record patients as a dressed or were
unclothed official save Victims ranged in age from young children
to adults and were mostly female. Authority said many of
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the recordings appeared to be made in a what's known
as a red light room used for red light and
near infrared light thing therapy, so everybody started of red
light therapy supposedly very good for you. Hanson allegedly placed
hidden cameras throughout the office to capture that footage. Police
set hands and also possessed and share videos containing child's
(06:13):
sexual abuse material that was not connected to his practice.
Law enforcement search Sheenson's home and office Wednesday before taking
him into custody. That night, he appeared in court for
a pre trial detention hearing and prosecutors ordered for him
to remain in jail. The court granted the request and
Hansom will be held wise while his case is spending,
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so he got a no bond order. His next appearance
is scheduled for November tenth at nine am.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So I would go out on a limb here and
guess you know, they have those pin cameras and he
may have been with the pin camera, like you know,
lifting shirt to you know, pretend to be checking something
and filming under the clothing like that, but or down
shirts or upskirts or I don't know anything of that nature.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
But this is a predator totally.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And you know, technology, It's one of the bad things
with technology is there's so many ways now they have
so many ways to conceal cameras. You can make them
look like cell phone chargers. You can make them look
like fire alarms where the camera's actually the inside the
fire alarm, and it can film like a whole room.
(07:23):
You know, it's ridiculous, and if you're not looking for it,
you're probably not going to catch it. I'd be interested
to know how he got caught.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I my brain goes to this. I don't know anybody else,
but my brain goes to the thought of not just
what he did, but preparing for what he did. So
that means that this man was in his practice when
nobody was there and he was thinking about how to
angle these cameras, where to put them. Like the preparation
involved in this is really sick if you really think
(07:52):
it through everything he had to go through to try
to get these shots and to get this film done.
It's a level of predation. That's that's scary. And you
go in here expecting to be you know, adjusted and
having a medical problem and to know or God forbid,
you brought your kid. Yeah kid, Yeah, I know, That's
what I'm saying. And then to know that they were
being taken advantage of is sick.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah really yeah. And a person in a with a
level of trust, I mean, this is a doctor, so
uh kind of adds insult to injury. But you know,
just a quick little side note on that. I at
one point it's it's strange when you cover crime for
a living, uh, how your brain works. And I actually
(08:35):
at one point wanted to put one of those things
in the bathroom here at the office that it makes
it smell good likely freshener. Yeah shoots the freshener out
and I plugged it in and I'm like that kind
of looks like one.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Of those devices.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Because I cover this so much, and I'm like, screw that,
I'm not putting that in here. Someone go to the
bathroom and think, you're, yeah, I'm doing something I shouldn't
be doing.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Let's go to Florida. We always go to Florida, man
we go Louisiana, Florida in these stories. But the family
of an eighteen year old her name was Anna Kepner,
who was reported dead while aboard the Carnival Horizon cruise
ship on Saturday, says that they will remember her as
a happy, bubbly, straight a student with a bright future ahead. Anna,
who was set to graduate from high school in May,
was traveling aboard the ship on a route from Miami
(09:22):
to the Caribbean when she died. Details surrounding her death
have not been released. The ship returned to Miami on Saturday,
where the FBI has since opened an investigation into her death.
And when she walked into her room, she would just
light it up, according to her family, who told ABC
News that if you were sad, she would make you laugh,
she would joke around, and she would be the funniest
little person in the room. Carnival Cruise Line confirmed her
(09:45):
passing in a statement, saying our focus is on supporting
the family of our guest and cooperating with the FBI.
Her family says they are still coming to terms with
the loss of a young woman filled with dreams and
excitement for her future. She had just finished taking the
test to join them military and she was already talking
to recruiters who had chosen her career path. She wanted
to do something that would help her community. The family
(10:07):
hopes Anna will be remembered for her generosity and spirit.
She was deeply involved in her community, volunteering in her
grandparents' fifty five plus neighborhood and helping out local businesses
in her hometown of Titusville, Florida. She was a people person.
She loved being around people. She had that type of
energy that just drew you in with her smile and
the way she carried herself. She was just such an
(10:27):
easy person to talk to. Cruise ship death cases can
be very complex for law enforcement. The FBI has jurisdiction
to handle cases when a crime occurs in international waters
and it falls under what is called special maritime jurisdiction
laws that mandate this. For example, if a cruise departs
from Miami, that gives FBI Miami jurisdiction. If it's returning
(10:48):
in or out of a US cruise port, and if
the alleged crime occurred in international waters, then that's the
FBI's responsibility as well.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You know strange story here in that there is some
reporting out there that I saw when this first came out,
and some of this reporting is saying she was stabbed
to death and found wrapped in sheets in her room.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Who's report do you remember?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I don't want to. It was similar to what we do,
and but this person is a very very large TikTok
crater and covers a lot of crime, does a great
job with it. The issue here is, you know, I
always try to source this with three sources, and that's
(11:39):
the only person I can find saying that. Doesn't mean
they're inaccurate on it. Maybe this person has more information
than the general public. Sometimes people will feed them leads
that they don't feed anybody else. But the issue I'm
running into is the police haven't said it. None of
your typical news outlets Taby's, NBCCBS, Fox, none of them
(12:03):
are reporting how she died yet have they found her.
And I find that strange because usually if you're found
dead anywhere, it says how you were found dead, what
you died of, And if you read the the mainstream articles,
they just say she was found dead. They don't, so
it makes me think the police haven't released that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yet right well to me, that would tell me the
other one.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Is releasing that well, which is strange.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Which is not smart. Also because if the police in
law enforcement is trying to keep this close to their chest,
obviously it's because there's something that's needing, you know. They
don't want to release anything that might compromise the integrity
of an investigation, because if she died of natural causes,
that would be you know, found rather easily. And so
(12:50):
whoever fed that information, if it's true, has done a
disservice to the family and my humble opinion because now
if that's true, whoever did this knows what at minimum
is being swirled around in the inner circles, you know
what I mean. So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well, but when you find somebody and they've been shot,
you say they've been shot. When you find somebody and
no foul play is expected, or you're looking into foul play,
maybe they were choked to death, but you can't really
tell whatever I mean. It's typically reported when someone's murdered
that they were found, you know, But if they're.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
In a cat strangled at that my brain goes here.
And again I'm not I've never investigated anything you know,
on a cruise everything, But my brain goes to we're
in a confined space with a limited number of people
on the ship, and to minimize any information of what
has happened. Then when we're talking in questioning people, obviously
the person who's done this is going to be lying.
Any information that gets out is a step up for
(13:47):
that person to recreate history or recreate come up with something.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So yeah, I mean, everybody in that industry scoop story
so these What.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Was weird was that they didn't say she was found
dead like on the ship. So they made me think,
I know, but it made me think, well did she
jump off of it like they because they didn't give much.
I know she didn't, But I'm saying because it was
so limited in information, that is making me believe that
this is going to be a serious case whenever it's
you know, whenever it's released. Yes, even what was her name,
(14:18):
Ammy Bradley or whatever when she was missing, they at
least said she was missing.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You know, Well they're definitely saying she was dead, but
they just no information as to how. So this person
may be right that's reporting this, and like I say,
maybe they got that from a family member. I mean
sometimes family members would communicate with certain people that they
follow and that's it.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I would suggest not doing that, but well, you know
you trust, you trust?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I guess trust? Do you trust? We'll go to Kansas
and I'm going to tell you about a former morning
TV news anchor who was charged with first re murder
in the stabbing of her eighty year old mother. Angel
Anne Mock, who is forty seven, who previously worked for
Fox two News in Saint Louis, and she didn't just
(15:04):
work there, she anchored the news. She has been charged
with first degree murder and the stabbing of her mother,
Anita Avers. This from the Sedgwick County District Attorney's office.
Mike was arrested in Wichita, Kansas, after police say Avers
was killed inside the home they shared. When officers responded
to the home around seven point fifty am, they found
(15:26):
Mock outside with cuts on her hands and she was
treated with multiple stab wounds. Mock Avers her mother, Mick
was treated in the hospital for injuries to her hands
before being booked into the jail. Mike worked as a
morning newsachor at Fox two in Saint Louis from twenty
eleven to twenty fifteen, and also held positions at Fox
(15:47):
twenty five in Oclambas City. At the time of her arrest,
she was employed in sales at a data management software company.
Neighbors in the community were traumatized after a bloodied Mock
allegedly emerged from the home. Quote, there was a woman
who approached our vehicle with blood all over her hands
and body and asked us to call nine one one.
(16:08):
That from a neighbor Castro. The neighbor told the outlet
that Mock told her took her boyfriend's phone, ran back
inside the house, where she called authorities, and allegedly claimed
she stabbed her mother to save herself that according to
the Sedgwick County dispatchers, Mock's motive for the stabbing remains unclear.
(16:30):
But you know, I've researched what this woman looked like,
you know, you're always curious. And I found a picture
of her when she was anchoring the news, and then
a picture of her and her arrest. And I don't
know what has happened to this woman since twenty fifteen
when she was anchoring the news, But in the first
(16:53):
picture and I'll put these on the Facebook page. In
the first picture, she's absolutely someone that would take you
brought away when she walked in a room, just that gorgeous, stunning,
typical Fox News anchor. Right the next picture, she looks
like she has had a very rough time from twenty
(17:14):
fifteen to now. And of course you could be beautiful
and stab your mother to death. I'm not saying that
that doesn't exist, but we all develop some sort of
predposite disposition to what people. You know, you hear a
story like that and you think this person has a
certain look to him. I'll just let you see the
pictures and you judge for yourself. But I think what
(17:36):
you're saying woman is claiming self defense on this.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah. I think what you're saying real quick about the
looks thing is that the first picture she looks very
put together. This looks like a person who has a
lot of self esteem and confidence and owns a room.
And then the second one looks she looks very she
looks like she's low self esteem, she looks like she's
let herself go. She looks like so maybe there's some
(18:00):
type of mental health component to this, or maybe she
just didn't want to dress up anymore, but to stab
your mother to death is a level of vi. I mean,
that is such a personal level of violence. And what
her moment are eighties so and.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yes, and I don't know the situation. I do want
to say this. Look, she's claiming self defense. And some
of these people when they get Alzheimer's, they get very mean.
I'm not saying her mother had that, and I've been
through an Alzheimer's situation now that was not the very
mean type of Alzheimer's, but some of them will attack you. Well,
(18:36):
I don't know if that occurred in this situation.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
But to me, and again we don't have all the details,
but if she's eighty something years old, kicker on her
knee and she'll fall down like you stabbed her to death,
And that just seems like a very high level of
violence towards an eighty something year old. Again, again we
don't know if the grandma had had a gun pointed
at her, we don't know, and that could be the case, but.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Kiler she could be.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, but you have to one has to wonder stabbing
an old lady like that over and over again seems
a bit much for self defense for self defense claim.
So you know, we'll see all right now, if you
are a parent, this is gonna make you. This is
gonna make your blood boil. And if it doesn't, we
got to talk because this is going to be right here.
(19:24):
In Louisiana, a thirteen year old student was expelled from
sixth Ward Middle School after hitting a male classmate who
she said created and shared a deep fake pornographic image
of her. According to her family's lawyers, the family, now
represented by Batonu's attorneys Greg Miller and Morgan Young, planned
to file a federal lawsuit against the Lafouche Parish school district.
(19:48):
The incident occurred in August when school began. The girl's father,
Joseph Daniels, and the attorneys say that the young girl
endured bullying after the deep fake nude image was circulated
throughout the school. Deep fake images are created using artificial
intelligence and can appear realistic enough to deceive viewers. Attorney
Miller said school leaders at sixth Ward Middle School failed
(20:10):
to address the girl's complaints about the circulating image despite
her reporting it to school leaders. The school board's actions
in this case are reprehensible. Miller said, my client's daughter
was begging them all day to put a stop to this.
Not only did they not put a stop to it,
they put her on the bus with the perpetrator. When
the girl saw the photo being shared again on the
school bus, she hit the boy she said was responsible
(20:32):
for creating it. She was later expelled from school. Daniel
said he disagreed with his daughter's physical response, but felt
the punishment was excessive. I do not approve of her
putting hands on the little boy, so suspension would have
been justified in my mind, but expulsion was extremely overboard.
The case became a focal point at the Olafouche Parish
school board meeting last week, where community members expressed outrage
(20:55):
over the district's handling of the situation. During the meeting,
speakers describe how the girl tried to contact her father
during the day, but was told by school officials that
parents did not need to be involved. The board voted
to allow the student to return to school on probation,
but the expulsion remains on her record, according to her father.
Attorney Young joined in with others who criticized the district's response.
(21:16):
I think the biggest failure is that they failed to
take accountability for their role and the fault in it
or their fault in it. Instead, they chose to shift
the narrative onto a thirteen year old girl's reaction after
being sexually exploited all day. Attorney Miller said he will
file federal lawsuit against the Lafouche Parish School District in
the coming weeks. The case has gained attention on social
(21:36):
media platforms, including TikTok with nearly two hours with a
nearly two hour school board meeting viewed more than forty
thousand times. Daniel said the experience has affected his confidence
in the school system at this point. Of course, it's
shaking my faith. I completely feel like they failed all
of the kids. Despite the situation, Daniel said he holds
no animosity toward the male student or his family. Honestly,
(21:59):
I have no ill will towards the young man or
his family. Kids are kids and they do dumb things
just like adults do, so, especially at that age, they
don't comprehend the severity of what they do. The Lafuchpear
School District said it could not comment on specifics because
of federal privacy guidelines. The superintendent said the district immediately
reported the case to law enforcement and an investigation is ongoing.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, and I got some things to say about this
you got. First of all, let me say this one
pissed me off so bad that I'm doing an exposed
episode on it next week. It is absolutely obviously shocking.
But folks deep fakes. Now, with the technology we have,
(22:43):
I can literally well I can't do it because I
ain't looked.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Up how to do it.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
But people, and obviously thirteen year old kids even can
make these images that look exactly like you. Now, obviously
no one knew what this thirteen year old body looked
like underneath her clothes, but you can find a newd
image somewhere that might resemble it and superimpose her face
(23:09):
on it. And this isn't what it used to be
where you can tell the face was superimposed. It looks legit.
And I'll give you a little inside information that was
not said in that article. They were harassing her because
in addition to the fact that she you know, it
was a fake nude, they were harassing her because this
(23:31):
fake nude had a, for lack of a better word,
a big bush. And so the kids were laughing at
her for what her vagina looked like with unshaven if
you will, and I'll tell you how bad it got.
This kid showed the pictures. She reported it as she's
(23:52):
supposed to. Now, She went through like half the day
of school just mortified because he's texting this picture to everybody.
She reports it to the principal, and the principal says, okay,
we're going to take care of it. Later on that day,
still getting harassed by everybody that's seen this picture, she
goes back up there, talks to the guidance counselor and says,
(24:13):
I want to call my dad, and the guidance counselor
would not let her call her dad at that point.
From let me finish. From there, she goes back to
her class. And here's where they were really stupid. This
made absolutely no sense. The bus comes, he rides the
same bus she does. The school's been made aware he's
(24:34):
harassing her with a nude fake photo, okay, which they
said they didn't believe her. Essentially, she gets on the
bus and this kid is sharing the picture on the
bus when she gets on it. So she gets on
the bus, she sits down. She looks over and this
kid's got his phone open with this deep fake photo
(24:57):
of her, and he's showing another kid and she reaches
up and she swats him, not hits him. She swats
him on the top of the head, like you'd swat
your husband or something like that if he made a
snod comment about you when you walk past him, swats him.
The kid doesn't even react to the swat. It was
that soft when she hit him. They expelled her for that.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
So I, okay, I'm gonna go somewhere with this, and
I think people are going to get frustrated with me,
but just hanging there. So whenever the photo was shared,
I think this is where the miscommunication is going to
come in. And there's fault on the school to an
extent here. But if the child came forward to the
office and said this is being passed around, obviously they're
(25:46):
gonna say, okay, we're going to look into it and
gather information. What is their name, what happened, blah blah blah,
al right, go back to class, let us handle it
where the problem started. In my humble opinion is that
adults respond to things differently than kids. So the adults
are going to take their time to investigate this to
figure out what's going on to try to get the image.
I'm sure see what was going on, but they probably
(26:09):
failed to realize that this is huge to a kid,
to an adult who who you know it's fake. No
listen to me though, for an adult that knows that
this is fake, I think they took too long because
they're like, it's fake. You know, if it's fake, we'll
figure it out. How in the world they could send
her back to class knowing that level of it.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's child born, kil I know.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
But what I'm saying is they took too long to
investigate this, and they sent right. That's what I'm trying
to say though, But they sent the kid back expecting
the kid to understand that they've got to take the
time to investigate it. Time out come see, and whenever
they failed to let her call her parents, that was
a mess up too, because now that just looks like
they're trying to cover something up. What probably happened is
(26:52):
the counselor said, listen, ad men is handling it. You're
gonna go back to class. We're not gonna call dad
right now, because they didn't want dad coming up there
and screaming and hollering while they still didn't have it
handled yet. I'm not saying that's good looking back at
what we know now, but in the moment they were
probably trying to figure it out still, but they didn't
do it fast enough. Like that boy should have been
(27:12):
snatched that instant, That device should have been taken that instant,
that very instant. The SRO should have been involved that instant,
the SR was involved immediately.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, let me tell you. Let me look, I love
SROs and you'll know no one is more pro police
than me. But let me tell you what the SR
did in this situation. To me, he pulls up Snapchat
and he says, I don't say any picture because the
kid was also incidentally sharing it on Snapchat.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, he's not going to see it on Snapchat if
it's a private snap.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Well he exactly, Wow, you just nailed it. They disappear
and he can share with just certain people. Right. Well,
this SR pulls it up and he says, oh, he
didn't put anything on Snapchat.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
So what happened is the kid probably went in and
said he's putting it on Snapchat. SRO assume who's the
public Snapchat? But if they left it, that's still ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Are you that I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Mean to say this, but are you that dumb that
you don't know that you can go on Snapchat and
just share with friends? So when the SRO saw that, Okay,
the assumption that's being made from the attorneys for this
girl and I get at their attorneys, but the assumption,
and it seems like it makes sense, is they didn't
believe her. Oh there's nothing on it snapchat. If if
(28:30):
if they're telling you this kid sharing this on Snapchat
talking to the girl, then they're lying to you because
it's not on there. They're just trying to get your
gay and upset you.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
But the other side of this, though, and I'm not
defending your child, well listen to me though, No, as
far as investigating this, and I'm telling you because I've
seen very very similar things while on campus, is that
you can't just flat out accuse a kid either, because
your hands are tied there. So ADMIN has to go
through all of these steps without alerting children, without without
(28:59):
fueling the trying to find exactly who saw the message,
exactly what they saw, document everything to a t so
that it's all about lawsuits. Lawsuits have become the problems
where ADMIN can't just run in and snatch out a
kid like we like they did back in the good
old days, and say what the hell is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But when you're Kelly, when I'm sorry, If I'm the
principal and a kid comes to me and says another
kid is disseminating child porn, I'm pulling him out of
class right there. I'm not doing an investigation first, behind
the scenes. I'm pulling him out of class. And here's
where the really stupid thing came in. You put him
(29:38):
on the bus with the girl at the end of
the day, knowing all that there's all this tension, right,
so then you're surprised when the girl swats him on
the head.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I'm not. And if I was her father or her mother,
I would have said, no problem, come home, no problem.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
She's expelled, she's not just suspended.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I would have done exactly what these parents are doing.
I think I agree. I'm not arguing that. What I'm
saying is I'm playing Devil's advocate right now and I'm
just telling you that the rules because of lawsuits, have
made it so incredibly difficult to handle. Now. When she
reported this, if she reported this at seven am, and
then that kid was put on the bus with that
kid again in the afternoon. Huge problem, massive problem now
(30:21):
if I know. But just for the listeners, if she
reported it to them at noon at lunchtime, and then
two hours two and a half hours later, she was
put back on the bus with them, Okay, well they didn't.
You know, two and a half hours isn't a lot
of time to figure out exactly what's going on. So
I think all of that little minutia is going to
come into this and you know, they are going to
(30:41):
have to make policy changes. But the reality is that
we are not smart enough to deal with the advancements
in technology. We are not smart. AI is out of
our league at this point, and it's out of control.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And I think that was some of the issue with
this case is as a matter of fact, in the
episode to be doing, I'm going to be sharing a
lot of the clips from the school board meeting, But
there was there's in a particular attorney that I have
some mad respect for. I think, in my opinion, he's
the best attorney in Louisiana right now. And I know
that list can go deep and change for everybody, but
(31:15):
his last name is or I call him an attorney
or and attorney or represented a case that we covered
with the LSU football player that killed himself after the
reck We covered this on Crime ar weekly. But same attorney,
very sharp, and he stood up in this in this
board meeting, and he even said no offense to one
(31:36):
of the school board members. He says, no offense. But
we're in twenty twenty five, a lot changed. This was
an older, very much older school board member who cannot
grasp the fact that you can make a deep fake
that looks exactly like someone exactly. They're like, how could
you not tell? And he's like, this is twenty twenty five, lady, Yeah,
you're eighty six. He didn't say that, but I'm sure
(31:57):
that's what he was insinuating you you.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Can't grasp this.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I'm sure there were a lot of people at that
school that initially when hearing this, probably didn't even know
what a deep think was because they don't listen to
our show, and they cannot grasp the fact of how
real this looks.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
It looks very real.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
This would be my statement, Can I finish? Yeah, but
I want to tell you the photo you're talking about.
I would have said to them. If you can't grasp this,
I'm going to print it out and I'm going to
post it on the front of the school. Maybe then
you'll understand how horrific this is. Because it's that horrific.
They can't seem to understand that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, right, well they couldn't grasp it at the beginning obviously,
But the mistake here and what the claim is, and
then we'll wrap this up. Nobody's arguing that there shouldn't
be any discipline. I would argue it personally, as a
as just a general lam in person with kids, I
would argue that I have no problem with our hitting
(32:56):
that kid, swatting him. She didn't beat shit out of him.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
These are two thirteen year olds and she's the girl,
he's the boy.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Come on. But the parents, to their credit, are not arguing, Hey,
she should have been suspended, she shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Have hit the boy.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, I don't you know. I've told her that was
not the right thing to do. So he's not arguing that.
The argument here and why there's a suit is they
expelled her from school and put her in an alternative school. Well,
that that was the plan, and an alternative school is
(33:33):
a school for bad people.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Guess what happens when she goes there.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
This is the girl that got in no trouble in
regular school, she had great grades. She goes to the
alternative school failing. Yeah, it's where she clearly pulled out
of her environment for something that that poor girl can't
wrap around her mind.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
What she has done wrong? Well, the school, she did it.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
She took every fucking step you should take to get
this kid away from you and get him to quit
a rassing you, and nobody would listen to her.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And this is how it suicides.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Starts with your angry I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And everything else. Is this harassment?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Ever? Shit like this?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Well, this, I'm sorry pisses me off.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No it should, because this is where there's a failure
to protect the child. And what happened is you failed
to protect the child. And then a thirteen year old
mind is going, oh my god, no one's listening to me,
no one's doing anything. The only thing I can do
is result to slap in him, Like what do I do?
I've done everything I'm supposed to do. I'm humiliated. I'm
humiliated amongst all of my peers. They don't have the
emotional capacity to handle this their kids. They're kids, an adult,
(34:41):
and that's what I'm saying. This timeline went too slow.
And I guarantee you there should be a policy change
that comes out of this. If ever there's anything AI
deep fake whatever from the get go, that should take precedents,
especially when sexual in nature. Yeah, that should take precedence
over anything happening at that school right now, because now,
if that child goes and does hurt herself or something
comes out of this, you are to blame for it
(35:03):
because you fail to act in an appropriate timeframe. And
that's I think where they're gonna get sunk.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
That's that's correct and last thing on that, and then
we've got to move on.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
From discipline his ass too.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, when I was in high school, and this is
this is prior to high school, this age group. But
when I was a freshman in high school, Uh, there
was a guy at one of the breaks, you know,
you get these fifteen minute breaks, Uh, and he thought
it'd be funny to try to embarrass me in front
of a girl. And I beat that ass. I beat
(35:37):
that ass because I like that girl. When you're gonna
try it because he liked her, he's gonna try to
embarrass me, and I'm like, I ain't gonna happen here.
I'm about to beat your ass and really impress her.
And I did, kd wherever you're at, you know who
you are. I whipped your ass, Keith Dawphin, No, it's
not kick. How did you know?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
But the the thing about it is I went to
the office and Kelly's grandfather actually paddled me.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
For you shouldn't have hit him.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I got that paddle. Hey you Eric, Look he didn't
play coach Corter.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
My hero, my coworker, that's right.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Paddled my ass and uh And that straightened me up
for a little while. This girl swatted somebody for sharing
a fake need image of her. I think this is
a travesty.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
It is.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I think they need to make it right with this girl.
And I do think they need to pay some money
for this.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
They need to because the only way this these Lafuchi
Parish schools are going to learn is that they got
to pay in their pocketbook.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
To me personally, and I don't have one hundred percent
of the detail, but I will tell you this just
as a human being, as an adult and as a parent,
who's been in the school system as well. An apology
should go a long way, and if they will address
these parents who seem completely reasonable. These parents seem completely
reasonable and say we should have handled this differently, publicly
(36:56):
apologize for this and state the changes we plan to
make as a result of this. They're going to fork
out some cash. I don't know what else they can do.
It's horrible, but they can make this right. Whether they
choose to stay hard nos, that's going to be on them,
and I think that they should pay huge if they
don't make it right.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
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sex offender who spent thirteen years on the run, but
he's now in custody. Hey everyone, Crime Wire Weekly has
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The Brothers Ortiz is the story of two brothers–both successful, but in very different ways. Gabe Ortiz becomes a third-highest ranking officer in all of Texas while his younger brother Larry climbs the ranks in Puro Tango Blast, a notorious Texas Prison gang. Gabe doesn’t know all the details of his brother’s nefarious dealings, and he’s made a point not to ask, to protect their relationship. But when Larry is murdered during a home invasion in a rented beach house, Gabe has no choice but to look into what happened that night. To solve Larry’s murder, Gabe, and the whole Ortiz family, must ask each other tough questions.