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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back, folks. We have a lot of topics in
the crime world to cover today. In Louisiana, a man
stabs his ex to death and then lights himself on fire.
Wild story coming out of Louisiana. We're bringing you a
fourteen year old Illinois girl is killed with jumper cables.
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In Ohio. NFL quarterbacks homes are getting robbed. This time
it's Dion Sanderson Chador Sanders, the sixth NFL quarterback incidentally,
whose home has been robbed during a game. A little
more news has come out in the Carnival cruise case
we brought you last week where a team was found dead,
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so we're bringing you an update on that. And a
female door dasher is arrested after delivering food to a
naked man and making a TikTok video on the scene.
That's right, Wow, can't get more We're interesting than that.
These stories are more coming at you today on Crime
Wire Weekly. I'm Jim Chapman and I'm Kelly Jennings kJ.
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We got a lot of crazy crimes today, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But what's one thing that was released yesterday in the
news that's got you going? I bet I know. Off
the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Epstein, Yes, Epstein files, the rest of those files, and
you know, I'm one of these people that I'm like,
I'll believe it when I see it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Well, get ready.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Been working on that case for Exposed, you know, the
most requested case obviously, that type of show that talks
about elite people getting away with sh no more deserving
than Epstein to get featured on that show. I mean,
he is the quinn essential elitist who got away with
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a bunch of disgusting, horrible things. And so it's just overwhelming,
and it's taken me a while to put this case together.
I'm interested to see what comes out that I haven't
learned yet.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You know, politically speaking, I don't want to go political,
but politically speaking, if someone takes the forefront of this
and just goes just goes ham and starts knocking these
people down and arresting them, you would make a name
for yourself because nobody, I don't care who you are,
Nobody uh is on board with anything that you know
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could have happened. I don't care who the celebrity is.
I don't care how much you love them.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I doin't care if it's a celebrity, but they get
away with Yeah, but they get away with stuff, you
know what I'm saying, and the average layman doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And so this is one of those things that it's
been thrown in our faces that this has been done.
It's there's no question that it's been done. And I'm
just saying, I hope that they throw the hammer at
these people.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, we'll see what happens right now. You know, nobody
knows what it's in the redactiveles. That one thing I
hope that they do do is they do you know,
these victims don't deserve to be blasted, these victims' families,
they've been through enough. They don't need to be revictimized,
if you will, So, well, what would be hopefully they'll
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keep those names out, and I think I think they will.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
What would be neat if they is if they said
victim one, VICTA two, victim three, and then we could
at least follow the procedure of Okay, victim three was victimized,
you know, passed, you know, through these hands and these people,
and you can kind of see how horrific it was
in its entirety.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So I agree, Well, look for that January twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I'm waiting for I can't wait to listen to you.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Good one. All right, let's get into some crime for today,
and we're going to start out in Louisiana and the
Baton Raage Police Department says a twenty three year old
woman has died due to a stabbing. This is on
Old ham And Highway and Baton Yage and the suspect
then sets himself on fire afterward.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Now not crazy, yep, to God.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, that's that's about as. I can't think of a
more horrible way too. And not that he didn't deserve
to die in a horrible way. I mean, he just
stabbed someone to death. But I can't think of a
more horrible way than fire. Maybe drowning. Those are the
two for me that you know, Okay, So police said
they responded around two thirteen am to Stacy Charles, twenty three,
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lying in a parking lot on Old Hammond Highway. She
had several stab wounds. She was taken to a hospital
and she died during surgery. Officers also responded to a
crash nearby at around the same time, and they determined
that Stephen Heinrich Junior was involved. In both the crash
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and the stabbing. BRPD said that, according to preliminary reports,
Heinrich arrived at Charles' residence, began ramming his vehicle into
her vehicle. He then removed her from the v vehicle,
stabbed her, and drove away. Now, while fleeing, he intentionally
entered the oncoming lane of trivel that resulted in a
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head on collision with another vehicle. Just an innocent bystander,
if you will. While in his vehicle after the crash,
Heinrich sets himself on fire. He was taken to the
hospital with life threatening injuries, and he later died. BRPD
also said that on November fifth, Charles contact and that's
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the victim contacted police after a battery that resulted in
Heinrich's arrest. He then posted a get this twenty five
hundred dollars bail, So you post twelve percent of that
or something whatever it is. I thought it was twelve
I'm gonna have If we had a young Jamie, I'd
tell him to fact check that. I think it's twelve.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
What type of bond was it?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It just says but bail for battery of a dating partner.
But anyway, regardless ten or twelve, you're still talking about,
but a couple hundred bucks, two and fifty dollars of
a dating partner, and he was served a protective order
within twenty four hours of arrest. Police said he also
had you're ready for this, six out of state protective
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orders from various women.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
From different rights women.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
He had a problem. I Court records showed that Charles
filed a restraining order on October sixth of twenty twenty
five to prevent Heinrich from going near Charles Worker school.
In those records, Charles alleged that Heinrich stalked her, punched her,
and threatened her life all over the past year. In
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those records, Charles also said Heinrich created a fake number,
put her family, friends, and employer in a group chat,
and sent inappropriate pictures. She said for the past two months,
he created fake numbers and social media accounts to harass
not only her but her family. The order was dismissed
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after the victim did not appear for the hearing. Charles,
so that's got to be the most unbelievable, yeah story
we've covered in a while.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, and this and not that that looks matter at all.
But I just want to tell you she's absolutely beautiful,
and I wish she would have known her worth, you know,
that she didn't have to put up with this shit
from this old dude.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Well, and I'm sorry, go ahead, that's okay. Now I
get in trouble for inter people get mad at me. Well,
so you finish your fault and then I'll comment on it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, this is the thing too, okay. So there's a
timeline of events here. That November fourth of twenty five,
at nine pm, he's arrested, accused of beating her. Then
the very next day at nine forty am is whenever
the District Attorney's office contacted her, and she denied the
prior incidents of abuse and did not mention the stalking.
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But hear me out if if she's afraid of him.
This is common in domestic abuse victims, and that they
don't want to say anything that might amp up or
get that person mad, and then especially if they're already
hurting them, you know. And I'm inclined to believe it
was because he was beating other women across across the
country basically. Then at one pm that same day, Commissioner
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Kimball set the bond at twenty five hundred, and the
District Attorney's office did advise the court of the prior
cases in New York and his prior convictions, so the
court knew. So this is a huge blunder that I
think they're gonna have to you know, this cost someone
their life and they're gonna have to answer to that
in some fashion. Then the next day, on November six,
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at four point thirty pm, is whenever the Sheriff's office
initiated the release paperwork for him, and they that followed
the bond that was set by the Commissioner. Then November six,
at four thirty nine pm, that's whenever New York authorities
entered their warrant and extradition hold on him in NCIC,
which is the National Crime Information Center. So there was
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a hold that he should even if he were to
be released, if if he were allowed legally to be released,
they still had to hold him and retain him so
New York could take him, bring him back and he
could be held accountable there.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But well, the a major screw up.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, So at six twenty nine pm on November the sixth,
the wold warrant was officially in NCIC. Then at eleven
oh three pm, Heinrich was released from the prison. So
six seven, eight, nine, ten eleven, so they had basically
a five hour So I don't know. I'm just airing
on the side of you know, reality here. I don't
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know if maybe they started the paperwork before that warrant
was entered, because it does seem to be entered late.
But I don't know what timelines are on that. So
at November six eleven pm is whenever he's released. November
seventh at nine am is whenever BRPD did the welfare check,
and then on November thirteenth is whenever she is stabbed
to death at two am, so very quickly he turned
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around and ended her life very quickly.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And you know, it's proof positive. And there were so
many questions. I got so many questions on this that
we're not going to have answers to today. There was
a lot of screw ups quite frankly, in this that
had they not happened, this beautiful young lady would still
be alive today. But all of that being said, it's
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also proof positive that all these restraining orders are is
a piece of paper at the end of the day,
they're a paper trail if someone means to do harm.
This guy was a sick, fucked up asshole guy, and
he a piece of paper was not going to stop
him from doing what he wanted to do. And in
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most of these cases of domestic violence. And I'm only
saying this so people know you can't rely on that.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
No, that's just a formality.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Guys don't that's a formal so for a prosecution later on. Well,
if she gets put in the hospital, then we've got
a paper trail of he's been doing this over and
over again.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right, And I'm gonna tell you other states and the
Louisiana is actually getting on board with this from what
I understand. I haven't researched it in depth yet, but
I spoke to someone about this in the past. But
other states created databases that are free for the public. Females, men, whoever.
You can go in and search people that you are
interested in or you might date to see. It's basically
a domestic violence database. You can put someone's name in
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and see have they been convicted for domestic violence in
the past, So you can see these patterns because they
don't stop, y'all. It just increases obviously in severity, and
so women specifically, we're more likely to be the abuse victims.
Not always, but we're more likely. You got to take
it upon yourself. And I'm not victim blaming here, but
we've got to teach our young girls you don't have
to take this shit from somebody number one. Number two,
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there are outlets that you could protect yourself before it
gets started, and these are examples of it. Thank god
for some who came up with that idea that we
might could have a database to research. And please, please
speak out, please say something if this is happening to you.
There's no shame in being a victim now at this level.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
And she did speak out. I mean she went, she
filed the paperwork, she told them what was going on,
and still sadly ended up this way. Yeah, you know,
I'm sure we'll have updates on it. Just a horrible,
tragic situation.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, prayers out to her family and to her friends,
because just a devastating way to go.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That's awful.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Let's move it on to Illinois, where an Illinois man
with a reportedly long criminal history was arrested after authorities
alleged he sexually assaulted and killed a teenage girl, Kylie Toberman.
She was only fourteen years old. She was found dead
in a tote bag inside an RV behind her family
home in Illinois on Friday, November fourteenth, eight hours after
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the local police put out a missing person's alert. Prosecutors
said that Arnold Rivera, identified by the family as Toberman's
step uncle, who had been living in the RV, is
accused of sexually assaulting Toberman in a car before allegedly
strangling her with jumper cables. Rivera, forty three years old,
was arrested and charged by prosecutors with first degree murder,
criminal sexual assault in concealing a homicidal death. Rivera has
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a long criminal history dating back to two thousand, when
he pled guilty to felony aggravated battery after prosecutors dismissed
child sexual abuse charges against him. He was also convicted
of possession of a stolen car in two thousand and eight.
He was sentenced to probation for both crimes, and this
chap's my ass because this is what we keep seeing
over and over again in our country. Rivera will now
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remain behind bars in pre trial detention in Fayette County
Jail after a judge denied his release. Loved ones have
created a go fundme campaign to help Toberman's family with
legal and funeral expenses. Kylie was known for her caring
heart and the way she made everyone around her feel included.
There's a loyal friend, a devoted sister, and someone who
could brighten any room simply by being in it. Toberman
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was also on the wrestling team at Vendalia I believe
is how you would say that Vendalia Junior High School,
which released a statement on social media in the wake
of her death. Please join us in keeping the students, family,
and loved ones in your thoughts and prayers during this
tragic and painful time. The school said, we will lean
on one another as we care for our students and
for each other.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Horrible tragedy, and you know, there's not much we can
commentate on that. I mean, it's just it's but is.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It a tragedy or is this allowed in the making
in what goes on here?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Is?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Was this allowed in some facet? Because when you give
people chance after chance after chance, and then a little
girl ends up dead, I know the courts can't be
held responsible for his specific actions. I get that, but
at what point are we gonna you dismissed sexual child
to bese charges against him? Back in two thousand and now,
a fourteen year old earl is dead.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
No doubt. Similar to the first case that we covered,
where there's all this all these other women, there's this
long paper trail. Another situation of that, and tragedy occurs.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
When people show you what is a step uncle.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I can't even figure out how someone becomes a step uncle.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, her stepdad's brother. Maybe, so there's a stepuncle.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Maybe I got you. Yeah, you're probably right, a good friend.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
This is totally off subject, real quick, but it made
me think of it. Yesterday a student of mine that
I love and a door is going through cancer treatment
right now. Anyway, he was raised by his uncle his
whole life. Well, he's now a grandpa because my student
had a kid and his nick his name for the
grandchild is up Up, and I'm like up, and then
it hit me, Uncle Paul Paul, because he's not the
Paul Paul, he's the uncle. So the baby calls him up.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Goodness.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I love it. I thought it was cute. But anyway,
on this one, what uh I'm looking. Look, when people,
when people tell you who they are or show you
who they are, believe them. And that's a problem we have,
I think with people that we trust or that we love,
or people in our family. Just because their family doesn't
mean you need to let them live in your backyard
in an RV, especially when they've already been accused of
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sexual assault. And then god, and you.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Have a fourteen year old there. Yeah, that's the disturbing thing.
It's not like these were two adults just helping this
guy outright, they had a.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Child there and he strangled her.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Talk about bad decisions.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Jumper cables like, this guy's brutal, and I would bet
there's more that he's never even been caught for. You
don't just jump to that, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
All right, Well, let's go to Florida and we're going
to give you an update on the Anna Kepner case.
Of course, this was the case we covered last week.
She died aboard a Carnival Horizon cruise ship. Earlier this month,
it's come out that she was found dead under a bed,
wrapped in a blanket and covered by life This that,
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according to a security who was briefed on the investigation.
So Anna Kapner was an eighteen year old cheerleader. She
was from Titus, Florida, and she was reported dead while
aboard that Carnival Horizon cruise ship on November eighth. The
Miami Dade Medical Examiner strangely, this is very rare that
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I see this. He has not specified a cause or
manner of death, and we'll talk more about that in
a second. Among the avenues investigators are looking at is
whether there might have been some sort of altercation with
her stepbrother prior to her death. The source told ABC
News that investigators are looking at other possibilities, including a
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medical emergency or an overdose. So you go from you
you have three totally different manners of death here that
you're looking into. So before I go any further, I
want to say, I see a lot of people talking
about the step brother. Maybe he had something to do
with it, maybe he didn't. But it sounds to me
like they don't even know she was murdered or if
she overdosed.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Why didn't they just say pinning?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Somebody knows.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Why didn't they just say penning toxicology? You know that's weird.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, Well, investigators are pouring over security records on the
ship and including security surveillance footage and access card swipes
to get a picture of who was ware at the
various times prior to her death. A court filing in
an unrelated family court matter noted that Keptner's step sibling
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could face charges. The filing said the FBI is conducting
an investigation arising out of the sudden death of Anna Kepner.
Sean tel Hudson, who is Keptner's stepmother, was also on
that cruise along with their children and Keptner's father, and
she requested a delay in her custody hearing because one
of her minor children may face criminal charges, that meaning
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the step brother. So the FBI, in all of this
has declined to comment. They haven't even said how this
young lady was she stabbed to death? Did she ever
do it? They haven't said any of that. Cardival cruz
Line said in a statement after Kepner's death, our focus
is on supporting the family of our guest and cooperating
with the FBI. And let me say this, I'm not
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saying I understand there's investigations that you have to have.
I understand that completely. And you want as little information
to get out as possible. But the problem is you
have a lot of people out there and they're hypothesizing,
but they're speaking to this as if it's fact. With
that the stepbrother thing, which may turn out to be true,
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but the stepbrother thing is being ran with by a
lot of these TikTok creators. The step brother did it, stepbrother,
he may have had nothing. Sounds to me like they're
investigating all kinds of things. He may have had something
to do with it. But I would caution people to
not accuse somebody of that without the police at least
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saying they're looking. They haven't even come out saying they're
looking at anything. This miss at least says of this recording.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And this is where I try to be very careful
because I think about the John b and a Ramsay case.
In this event and her brother has taken heat for
his entire life that people have just run with it.
Oh Burt killed her. You know, there's no evidence of that.
There's nothing that would you know, other than speculation. So
now here we've got this stepbrother who people are speculating
may have done something to her. And if he didn't,
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you know, people who know them, we don't know them,
but people who know them, you can't unring that bell, right,
you can't undo that, and that would just and what
if he didn't, I mean he may have, but what
if he did?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
He right, And that's the whole problem. Wow, that's the
whole problem because he'll never shake that accusation.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
So wherever this information was, I don't know if it
was leaked or what that the brother stepbrother may be
facing charges. Okay, well then you this should have been
clarified more. In my opinion, the medical examiner should say
that pending toxicology and the you know, completion of the investigation,
I'm going to withhold you know, any of my results
until that we have a full view and complete investigation,
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rather than say undetermined could be drugs, could be the brother.
I mean, shit, it could have been satan. We don't like,
you're just throwing us in all different directions and I
don't know they should that should have been curated better
for the public.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, because they're going to start theorizing, right, it's your
human nature. All right.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Let's move on to Ohio, the home of the Cleveland Browns.
Rookie quarterback Shadoor Sanders was broken into while he was
making his league debut at the team's Sunday game against
the Baltimore ravens Now. Sources close to the situation confirmed
that Sanders' home was broken into on Sunday, November sixteenth,
while he was at the Huntington Bank Field in Cleveland.
It's unknown if anything was stolen, and Cleveland dot Com
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reports that no suspects have been named. Sanders is at
least the sixth NFL player to have his home broken
into while he was playing a game, and I know
right and more than a dozen athletes across professional sports
leagues in the US have had their homes burglarized in
recent months. Last year, there was a string of burglaries
at the home of players including Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey,
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Joe Burrow and I know Burrow, No better leave Joe alone.
Back up off Joe as a boy, and Saints defensive
end Cam Jordan's home was broken into in October of
twenty twenty five. Then in November of twenty twenty four,
the NFL issued a memo to its team security directors
and the players union warning about organized criminals targeting the
homes of professional athletes. The memo informed recipients of the
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perpetrator's strategy in finding targets and suggested that players employee
increased privacy measures like waiting to post on social media
until after they've left a location and installing advanced security systems.
A source close to the situation told the NFL that
at the time that the transnational crime ring was quote
unquote focused on NBA and NFL players for about three weeks.
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In February, seven Chilean nationals were charged with conspiracy to
commit interstate transportation of stolen property in connection with several
of the burglaries. According to the complaint, the individuals were
allegedly part of a group that targeted high profile athletes
in both the National Football League and the National Basketball League,
and they would often burglarize the athlete's homes while they
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were away or playing in professional games, which were often
listed online. The US Attorney's office alleged that seven individuals
stole valuables worth over two million dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Oh yeah, and I know in Joe Burrow's case, they
got over a million dollars worth of stuff out of
his house and he had If I'm not mistaken, I
want to say he had security posted at the front gate,
and they somehow got around it and got around the cameras.
These dudes are experts. These are like jewel thieves. Man there.
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This is not Fred down the street figuring out you're
playing in Dallas today and say he's going to go
rob your house. These guys are are pros. Have what
they're doing. And the fact that every player that as
uh that has been burglarized thus far it was when
they were playing an away game, so certainly they're following
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the schedule, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I'm impressed that there have been no children or
wives at home during any of these burglars, or if
there were.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
They may be picking all these well, wives are going
to go to the game, right well, but always I mean,
look Travis Kelsey wife at every game.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Oh my god, she is whatever she loves. She ain't
got no damn kids. And they are they marry married
Yet excuse me up to.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Day the swist, Somebody's gonna come at me like you married.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Jim's a swift I am not a swifty.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Swiftly, but I will say this, and and you're right,
but it seems like I know Joe Burrow is not
married and is not in a relationship and has no kids.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
You don't have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Nothing I'm aware of. I watched, I watched on Netflix.
He did a series, a great series, and there was
no girl.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
If he wants to be a brother husband, I can.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Can forget a girl anytime he wants. I can. I
can promise you that's one guy that could pretty much
date any girl he wants to read to wag bro.
I love that he's got options. Let's just say that.
Hell ya, But I don't know. I don't know if
if these guys have families, and that'd be something to
look into, because maybe they're specifically choosing bachelors that don't
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have families, don't.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Have and Caim doesn't have a girl either. I mean
he's handsome, but either way, I mean all these guys
should or Sanders is no slouch guy.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I mean son of Dion.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, I like do you like Dion?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I like Dion And he's got a lot of swag.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, he's got something to him that makes you just
want to listen. You know, he's a good coach, but hey,
please don't break into their houses and steal their stuff.
If you're listening to Chilian National uh, theft ring.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Right, Well, they're getting away with it.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Thus, do you remember to leave Britney alone? Thing that
went went viral years ago? You've read me alone?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Okay, Well, am I making anyone leave Joe alone?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
All right, let's go into Florida. Okay, first time we've
been to Florida. Today. I believe that's it might be
a record we're going to talk about. This case is
going to blow your mind. So authorities in Florida have
arrested a man in connection with the killing of a
British woman who allegedly traveled to America to be sexually
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assaulted and murdered. Yeah, y'all to see Kelly's face just now, y'all,
it was like what not a fan of that? Investigators
received a report regarding a woman after she missed her
flight back to the UK. An arrest warrant identifies her
as Sonya xLby. She is from Portsmouth, England. Within days,
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Exelby's remains were found in Marion Oaks, Florida. She died
from an apparent homicide. A guy by the name of
Dwayne Hall, who was fifty three, was arrested Monday, November
seventeenth by officials from the Marion County Sheriff's Office. In
writings allegedly left on her computer, Exelby indicated she was
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suicidal in traveling to the United States to be sexually abused, tortured,
and possibly murdered. She allegedly connected with various people in
the US in furtherance of her parent mission. British investigators
also found evidence of a suicide letter she wrote, where
she anticipated being quote mutilated and disabled for the rest
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of my life in the event that she managed to
get to him, meaning this guy. Authorities identified Hall as
a suspect after tracing him to an account that allegedly
attempted to transfer money from Exelby's bank account several times
since October eleventh when they first met up. During a
voluntary interview on October seventeenth, Hall allegedly gave several inconsistent
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accounts about his interaction with Xelby, initially claiming he did
not know her, before eventually admitting that he had sex
with her several times and discussed her bondage, suicide, and
desire to have someone kill her. Hall also allegedly said
if he had to help her, he would bring Xelby
to Alligator Alley where the wildlife quote would have taken
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care of her. He declined to answer when asked if
he killed xLby, but said quote, she's happy now because
she got what she wanted. He was charged with fraudulent
use of a credit card and an unlawful use of
a two way communication device. At the time of his
arrest this week, Hall was behind bars on those charges. However,
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in the arrest affidavit for Hall's murder charges, authorities claim
Exelby appeared to have her doubts last minute and reached
out to a friend via discord, alleging a man who
she did not name was holding her against will. Quote,
he made it clear there was no way out unless
I shoot him. I was questioning it last night. I
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can't kill anyone, she wrote in part of the message,
later adding she was made to record three disclaimer messages
and write a letter to her family because he thought
it was funny. In a cell phone video reviewed by police,
Hall is allegedly seen prompting Exlby to answer questions such
as how she wanted to die. Even though Xelby answered,
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her answer seemed to express her consent, she hesitates before
answering several of the questions on the video. On social media,
a loved one of xLby stated in an October sixteenth
posts that she's vulnerable and really struggling with her mental
health and quote, we believe she is arranged to meet
someone in Tallahassee, Florida, and has gotten herself into an
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extremely vulnerable situation. Hall is currently charged with murder and
kidnapping in addition to previous fraud charges against him, and
he is pleaded not guilty to all four childs.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay, well, I don't care if she did write a
letter I don't care if she had it notarized saying
kill me. He still can't do that, and he should
have the decency of mind to know that this is
wrong and improper. But no, he's a sadistic and he
wanted to do it, but he just thought that what
writing a letter and of approval is gonna lie? Like
are you ridiculous? Yes, you're absolutely stupid, which sounds juvenile
(30:28):
to say that, but like, did you really think that's
gonna work?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
You really?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And she's obviously very mental mental, you know, her mental
health ring really suffering to even attempt something like that,
and they allegedly met on some sort of fetish website
that's very popular. Apparently. I can't even remember the name
of it. I saw it in an article, but somebody
out there has probably heard of it. But that's where
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they met. They started chatting like two years prior to
them actually meeting in person, from what I understand, and he.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Looks like every convict in an old She's got like
an adele thing going on. She kind of looks beautiful.
I know that there's people on those fetish sites, Like
I saw a crime before too, where they were called
bug chasers or something, and it's where men would go
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and they wanted to be infected with HIV or something.
It's supposed to be like an Eurotic experience. So I'm
wondering if this was eroticism gone totally like fantasy. And
then when she realized, oh shit, like this isn't fun.
You know, this isn't fun anymore. He's really gonna kill
me if she's like, uh, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Unfortunately, I think we do know true thoughts.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, but she didn't deserve that. I don't care what
she says. You know, we're in a country where we
should be smart enough to know that if someone says
I want to die, that that's that goes against everything internal.
You know, everything about us, just humanistic nature is survival.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
So I'm sure he knew that's why he was going
to try to That's why he tried to hide the crime. Yeah,
you know, and didn't. I mean, he knew it was wrong.
He's trying to justify it now that ocean. You know,
he was being a she had a terminal illness and
he was being a suicide doctor forky. Yeah, basically.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
It's disgusting and sick, and I hope he gets everything
he deserves. I hope he goes to Alligator ally.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
All right, now let's go to Texas. Texas you want
to talk about you want to talk about piss some
people off. I wasn't even there and this aggravates me.
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