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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, folks, do we have a jam packed show
for you today. In Louisiana, a teenager is convicted as
an adult for murder but only gets nine years in prison.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Why the light sentence? We're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
In DC, Donald Trump has mobilized troops with the Anti
Crime Order. The federal government is taking over policing in
that city. Is it the right decision? We're gonna talk
about that. A Louisville, Kentucky woman and her two children
are abducted during a twenty thousand dollars bank robbery of sorts.
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We're gonna discuss her. Harrowing story. A Florida woman posing
as a nurse gets arrested after treating thousands of patients.
Unbelievable story. An LSU player and one of the top
recruits in the country is arrested after harboring two friends
accused of murder in his dorm room at Louisiana State University.
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You gotta hear this one, and there's so much more
coming your way today on Crime Wire Weekly, I'm Jim Chapman.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And I'm Kelly Jennings.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Hello Kelly Jennings, Hello Jimothy. How's your week? Thus?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Far.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
You know, I've had personally a good week. I my
heart's heavy though, I'll tell you that. So you've obviously
been watching the news, we both do.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
And we had a.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Local officer, Caleb Eysworth, who was purposefully run over by
a total piece of shit.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He was on his motorcycle.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
The officer was and just going about his business, responding
to a call, and this guy decided that he wanted
to quote lay him out. Yeah, and so targeted, targeted him,
rand him over.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Dragging five hundred feet plus.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah. And so it's been seven weeks. He survived and
we were all very.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
We as a community, we're so thankful for that and
so happy he then we found out how to have
double leg amputations. But he seemed to be doing well,
but we found out that yesterday that he did actually
succumbed to his injuries. And so that is just to
be targeted at your job, yeah, you know, a job
that we all I think should appreciate that we have
people out there who are willing to protect us and
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to serve. And so I just personally would like to
extend my my heartfelt thank you and condolences because Caleb
actually went to the same high.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
School as me. Yeah, so and me yeah, oh yeah,
because we went to the same one, huh uh.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
And so I don't know you kind of you kind
of feel a tug whenever we walk the same grounds
and kind of lived similar lives when we were younger.
So to his family and anyone that knew him and
his friends, you have my ultimate respect, and so I
felt like it was important to share that.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yes, I agree in many, many prayers to his family
and all of those who knew and loved Caleb Eysworth and.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
A former brought More buccaneer.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Uh so even your your fellow broad More graduates, wart's thoughts, prayers,
all of that to the family.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Sad situation. The hates got to stop.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's got to stop for you know, these officers that
are every day put on a uniform and really risk
their lives for people they.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Don't even know, right, and then to be killed by
something we don't know right, for no reason.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
It's just sick.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
So anyway, y'all keep that family and your prayers and
a young daughter in our hearts with you.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So let's get into it, and we're going to start
out in Louisiana today and we're going to go.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
To Saint Helena Parish, which y'all is right by.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, about forty five minutes from where we record, would
you say, yeah, So we're going to go there and
a Saint Helena Parish team is sentenced Monday this past
Monday for a fatal shooting after victims family members gave
emotional speeches in a Greensburg courtroom. Christopher Williams, who is sixteen,
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was sentenced to nine years in prison after pleading guilty
to the shooting at Saint Helena College and Career Academy
that killed one juvenile and injured two others in September
of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
The shooting took place on campus where the three victims
were sitting in a car after school. Vernon Gordon Junior,
who was sixteen years old, died in that shooting. Williams
was charged with one count or with counts of second
degree murder, two counts of attempted second degree murder, and
illegal caring of a firearm. He was fourteen years old
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at the time of the shooting. However, he was tried
as an adult. Vernon Gordon Senior said the sentence that
he received did not reflect the value of his son's life. Quote,
my family was served a life sentence of grief. He
described his son as an outgoing athlete on the honor
roll who wanted to go to college. He would have
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turned eighteen five days ago. The victim's father and several
other family members don Teisha with his photo that said
justice for vej and until we meet again. Marquelle Bernard Gordon.
Vernon Gordon Junior's mother described her family as struggling with
grief after the shooting, especially her juvenile special needs daughter.
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The mother said that death changed their lives forever. Other
relatives and the mother of the other two injured victims
they also spoke about their grief and shared frustration about
the sentencing. Some did forgive Williams. Williams kept his head
down as the seven victim impact statements were We're at
in court and initial reports from law enforcement said that
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bullying may have fuelled the shitting. Thomas Demiko williams defense
attorney said after the sentencing there was evidence of serious bullying,
both verbally and physically, and that Williams was not a
bad kid. Bernard Gordon testified in court, there was no
proof of bullying. The defense attorney said his client and
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family were both remorseful. William's mother and a handful of
women sat on the side of the room near him,
wearing T shirts and displayed the Bible verse mark eleven
twenty five and standing in Love with CJ.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Fourteen is the.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Youngest I've ever had, Demiko said, in representing the juvenile
and the district Attorney's office understood the.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Gravity of the kids' ages. So what do you think
about that?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So, first of all, fourteen years old is well old
enough to know that bringing a firearm with you is.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Not right in any capacity, shape or form.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
And even if you are being bullied, being bullied versus
murdering people is something. And look, I've been bullied before
when I was younger. Okay, it's no fun, but it
never crossed my mind to bring a weapon and to
murder those people.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And so I think this is more complex than just
saying you know bullied.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You know, oh, well he was bullied, and so that's
why you didn't get a lot of time. I don't
agree with that amount of sentencing. I don't think that
that if you're willing at fourteen to bring a weapon
to school and murder people. Then I'm not convinced that
six years in a facility is going to change I'm sorry,
nine years in a facility is going to change that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, And look, I don't know. Admittingly all the facts
of this case. Were they beating the shit out of
this kid every day at school for a year.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Not that nothing justifies murder obviously, but maybe you know,
was he scared to death?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
The sentence only being nine years makes me think that
there's some things that maybe are not being reported on here.
As far as what I just covered you, I don't
know the extent were these were these kids six foot four,
two hundred and forty pounds, and the guy they were
that shot them was five foot tall and one hundred
and fifteen pounds, and they were just hanging him from
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a locker every day.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I don't know. None of that justifies murder.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And I totally get the father saying we feel like,
you know, the sentence doesn't meet the crime.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
If you will, my baby's only worth.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
If that were my kid and he's no longer here,
I'd want this guy in jail for the rest of
his life fourteen years old. You'll get some people on
the other side of that saying his brain's not even
developed yet. There's no way he could have known the
gravity of the actions. I don't know if I buy
into all that at fourteen. I remember when I was fourteen,
I knew if I killed somebody, I was gonna be
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in some serious And it.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Doesn't sound like when he went and did this that
he was provoked from what we're reading, obviously we haven't
read the case.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yes, yeah, it didn't sound like.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
He was provoked. Well, if that's the case, then you
have become no better.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I mean, you and you took their lives. It just
doesn't equate. I'm not a fan of this at all.
And if I was the deceased parent parents, I would
I would have a lot of problems now emotionally grappling
with that life of a sentence.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You took my child away?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Forever? Wow, I don't know, do you think it was.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I mean, it's hard for me to really speak on
a lot of this because I don't know what. I
don't know the extent of circumstances behind it. It doesn't
it's not very clear. It says buying. But I mean,
how far did that bullying go? It sounds like it
was more than just name calling. It was physical bullying,
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which means they were probably beating this kid up. There's
ways of handling that, obviously, outside of killing somebody. Speaking
of nine years just seems awful light for Martinville. That's
all I can say for anybody who kills somebody.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
All right, Well, let's move.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
To Texas now right next door, and we have three
people that were killed in a shooting outside of a
Target store in Texas. Per local officials, Austin Police Department
responded to a shooting incident at the Target on eighty
six oh one Research Bullvar in North Austin. The department
announced just after two pm on Monday, August eleventh. Police
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said they were looking for a suspect in khaki shorts
and a floral print T shirt. Within the hour, they
announced an update that the suspect was detained. Now I'm
going to stop here as far as the article that
I had started with, because we had an update that
came through, and so I'm a pick up on this
article because it gives us a lot more insight. So
on the update, it says that the Austin Police Department
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has identified the suspect and the victims in the triple
homicide outside of that target. APD says the victims in
the shooting were twenty four year old Hector Leopaldo Martinez Mushuka,
sixty five year old Adam Chow, and Chow's four year
old grand baby. The suspect has now been identified as
thirty two year old Ethan Ninnaker. Officials had previously said
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that the suspect had a history of mental health issues,
with APD saying that he does have a rap sheet
with us. Ninacer has been charged with two counts of
capital murder for the four year old granddaughter and for Chow.
He has also been charged with first degree felony murder
for Martinez Mushuka. What happened yesterday was an unprovoked and
deliberate act of violence. Innocent lives were taken in broad daylight,
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in a place where people should feel safe to run
their everyday errands and to live their everyday lives. Police
were asked what Ninacer's motive was, and this is a
direct quote they said. He said that he was Jesus
and there was really no reason whatsoever given, it was
completely random choosing of victims, Austin said. Austin police said
that on August eleventh, they responded and when they got there,
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they found Martinez in the parking lot. Martinez was scooped up.
He was taken to the hospital, where he died from
his injuries. Chow, his wife, and their four year old
granddaughter were also taken or found in the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
They said.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Chow and his granddaughter were pronounced dead at the scene.
Chow's wife suffered only minor injuries. They said that the
investigation found that Ninacer randomly attacked Martinez Mashuka, who was
a target employee in the parking lot. So this poor
guy is just at work. He shot and killed Mushuka,
who was collecting shopping carts. Ninaker then ran to a
black jeep Cherokee and began firing as the jeep attempted
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to evade the gunfire. Police say Ninacer then ran up
to a gray Toyota four Runner, where he shot Chow
as he sat in the driver's seat. He then fired
into the backseat, striking Chow Chow's four year old granddaughter.
Chow's wife carried their granddaughter from the vehicle, and Ninaker
pushed her from the vehicle. Nineacer then drove the Toyota
from the parking lot at a high rate of speed.
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At approximately two to twenty pm, Nineacer found a water
truck parked alongside the block of Mopak Expressway. He opened
the driver's door and repeatedly assaulted the driver before pushing
him out of the vehicle. Ninaker attempted to put the
truck into drive but was unable to. He then jumped
out of the truck and chased a mail with a
pistol in his hand before running back to the stolen
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for Runner, and he drove off. At approximately two to
twenty five pm, APD received a call of multiple vehicle
crashes as the stolen four Runner crashed into a Volkswagon
before landing on top of an Infinity Suv. Ninaker exited
the vehicle, went over to the Volkswagen, opened the door,
and repeatedly assaulted the female driver of the Volkswagen. He
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pushed the female driver of the Volkswagen out and then
drove off. At two thirty four a suspect matching Ninaker's
description exited the stolen Volkswagen and went up to a
Waymou vehicle and attempted to break into it. This failed,
and Ninaker returned to the stolen Volkswagen and drove away.
At two thirty seven, an acquaintance known to Ninacer through
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Bible study reported that Ninacer had thrown a brick through
his residence at the twenty one hundred block of La
Casa Drive. Then at two fifty eight, the APD received
a call of a naked mail walking through a backyard.
Ninacer was observed running into a porta potty and then
leaving on foot. Officers located Ninaker walking naked on Montclair Street.
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He was issued commands. He did not comply. He was
tased and taken into custody. At three oh six pm,
officers checked the area and the matching suspect clothing previously
captured on surveillance, was located inside of the porta potty,
and they gave a little bit more information in a
different article that said that he had a history of assault,
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he had a history of family violence, criminal mischief, DWI
and possession.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Not a good guy, no, and.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't know what is in the freaking water. But
this is the second time we've covered random shootings at
like a major shopping outlet, if you will, this time
being Target, Last time it was Walmart. These you know,
a stabbing in which a guy just went nuts and
started stabbing people. This guy's going nuts, just shooting people.
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I don't know what's going on, but the respect for
life is at all time low. In my opinion, nobody
considers murdering somebody a big deal anymore. And it's you
interested in saying, this guy's just working pushing carts in
this a asshold the sides, I'm just gonna kill you, yeah,
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and take your life.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Bruh.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You're working hard at targets, you know, it's not like
they pay a million dollars a year. You're out there
in Texas in the summertime pushing cards.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You know how hot that is?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
They earning your keep?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, in this asshold the sides, it's a good time
to end your life.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And you know.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
What's what's crazy about this too, is that if you
look at.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
At studies of criminality and victimology, you know you live
a high risk lifestyle. Things happen to you.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Okay, but you kind of know that going in.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah, I mean, but this is not high risk lifestyle.
I mean this is Target, this is the upscale Walmart.
You know you're going in to buy some groceries. You
have a grandparents with their grandbaby, and this poor woman,
miss Chow, just lost her husband and her grandbaby. And
to think of the trauma to grab your grand baby
and run and then to be pushed down by this
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guy and lose your family. Just right there is an
un provoked Obviously he's nuts, but this is again, this
is criminal, criminal nuts. This isn't just someone that not
that I don't I'm not trying to compare here, but
you know someone goes and robs a bank. Okay, you're
a robber, You're a mean dude. This is crazy evil
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you add, I mean, what in the world and just
changed so many lives forever. That poor kid, he's in
his twenties picking up shopping carts.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, and you know you always read when these things
come out that the person had mental health issues. Well
that's captain obvious right there.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And that's the breakthrough.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Obviously you got freaking mental health issues if you think
it's a good idea to get a gun and just
start blasting in this and people, but that's not an out,
that's not you know people. It seems like some people
in the media are using this as an out. Well
he had mental health issues, now, shit, Charlock still doesn't
give him the right to go around and just start
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blasting people.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
What is causing it? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I mean, I tell you what's.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Causing it, dw I possession assault. There's drugs involved here.
I don't care what anybody says. When people start screaming
that they're Jesus, we're usually on some type of upper
all right, some methamphetamine or something. And I know I'm
projecting that, but in totality of circumstance, people start acting
kukuokachu when they're on those uppers. Yeah, okay, so good,
you have some mental health problems. Wonderful. Well now you've
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ruined all of these lives. And for it's a cop
out to say, oh, well he had mental health issues, Well,
then we as of people need to look where we're
spending our money and where we're sending our funding, because
these people like this don't need to be walking the streets.
Mental health issues need to be addressed. And there's a
long history of this. Yeah, clearly there's a rap sheet.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I agree. Let's get into uh DC. Okay, and look the.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
If you're searching for articles to check out for crime
right now, this is the leading one. Uh So, don't
commit me with this is political. What it's not political.
What we're talking about here is a pretty major historic
step that has been taken in Donald Trump's crime cracked
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down in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Now, I'm gonna bring you back to the beginning of this.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
The FBI sent one hundred and twenty agents into the
DC streets. This is as Trump targets carjacking and crime
inside the capital. So the FBI sent those one hundred
and twenty agents on overnight shifts to help local law
enforcement battle carjackings and other violent crimes. And this comes
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as Trump has threatened a federal takeover of the city,
even as I'm intentionally reading you this as the article reads,
even as data shows violent crime plummeted in the nation's capital.
The president was recently outraged after a young administration staffer
was reportedly assaulted in an attempted carjacking. And that, of
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course was who everybody knew his big balls and big
balls was Elon Musk, kind of like kid genius that
was in charge of finding money for the program that
Elon Musk was overseeing for Donald Trump, and he was
actually defending his girlfriend and got the shit beat out
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of him by like eight guys in Washington, DC. On Saturday,
Trump announced that a Monday press conference would end violent
crime in Washington. On Sunday, he took the true social
this time to call on the city's homeless to clear
out immediately. The President compared his crime battling action to
his work restricting illegal immigration on the southern border, etc.
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So all this becomes threatened. And then on Monday, Donald
Trump did indeed activate the National Guard and they have
indeed taken over.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Policing crime in d C, which is totally illegal. DC
is not a state, folks.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
D C is a district that is kind of in
and of itself and totally funded by the federal government.
So because of that, the federal government can enforce law
in Washington, d C. And it's not considered, you know,
anything illegal or that you need congressional approval to do.
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So a lot of articles that I've come across are
kind of only telling half the story. So I'm going
to give you the full story at least on this podcast.
And one of the things that they're pushing is crime
is down. Crime is down in DC, crime is down.
I'm going to give you the actual stats. So in
twenty twenty four, at this point in twenty twenty four,
there were one hundred and twelve homicides. This year twenty
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twenty five, there are one hundred. So while it is
in fact down, it is in fact horrible. There's still
been a hundred people killed already in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Down.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I'm one hundred and twelve in twenty twenty four, So
that's homicide. Sex abuse twenty twenty four, one hundred and
ten twenty twenty five. Now that has went down about
fifty percent, but you still got fifty five cases of
sex abuse already in twenty twenty five. Assault with a
dangerous weapon six hundred and sixty eight assaults in twenty
twenty four twenty twenty five, five hundred and thirty four,
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about a twenty percent drop there, but still five hundred
and thirty four.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Robbery.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
There's been almost of thousand robberies in twenty twenty five. Already,
there were twelve hundred at this point in twenty twenty four.
Violent crime just total fifteen hundred and eighty eight instances
of by a violent crime in twenty twenty five, four
hundred and forty three burglaries.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Motor vehicle thefts.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Don't have a car in DC because twenty nine hundred
and nineteen of them bitches have already been stolen this year.
Theft from auto thirty seven, thirty nine, arson four cases,
property crime fourteen thousand, one hundred and fifty two cases
of property crime, so all crime total fifteen thousand, seven
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hundred and forty different cases already. So I bring all
that up to say this, Yes, by percentage, crime has
gotten better, but it is by no means acceptable. That's
the fact. So while it's improved, it's still horrible. It's unsafe,
And this is the nation's capital. It's our handshake right
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to the rest of the world. When they come, especially
these dignitaries from other countries and they go to DC,
you want that to be exactly how you would envision
the nation's capital. You don't want it to be a
third world country out there where four thousand vehicles have
been stolen already this year. The violent crime people getting
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the ship beat out of them in the street. My
question is why does this even become an issue with
those out there that are Democratic or Republican or whatever
that they're against the federal government helping the police. The
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police obviously are overwhelmed here. Obviously there's a problem. So
there's nothing wrong. Hey if that, If your crime is
that bad and you're a Democrat, it's probably happening in
your neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
And because these.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Are the lower the lower you know, this ain't happening
in the rich part of town. Let's put it that way.
In Washington, this is happening in the lower income bracketed
areas of town.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
And if I live in that area, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Thinking bring the National Guard over here, put them right
out in front of my front door so I don't
have to worry about a bullet flying through my window tonight.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Well, to me, there's two there's two answers to that question.
It's one of two.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
The only reason you would be against it is one
simply because of the person who's putting it into effect,
or which means you just are going to completely blankly
disagree with anything that the person does. Or two it's
because people that you know and love are the ones
that are committing the crimes. That's the only too logical
things I can come up with. But this is something
and I'm not going to turn this into a school
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lesson because nobody wants that. But when they say crime
is down, this is something that I think the general
populace misses. Okay, population matters. Population differences have to be
looked at. So, for example, DC population in twenty twenty four,
seven hundred and two thousand people, Okay, compare that to
Louisiana four point five to nine million people. Okay, So
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crime being down doesn't mean we just had They Sometimes
in the media, they'll say crime is down. Oh, well
you had one thousand, you know, robberies, and we only
had eight hundred and ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Ooh, it's down. No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
When you take that whole number and you apply it
to the differences in the population, then it could possibly
mean that there's more crime per person happening when they
have such a smaller population, and that's per capital Yeah,
it's per capita, And so we have to look at that.
And I think a lot of people just buy into
the fact that when people say crime is down, well,
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when the crime is out of control, down still is
above where we.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Need to be I mean it's insanity.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
You should never be walking out to your car have
a gun put in your face and your vehicle taken
from you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Like that's just unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Like zero should be the standard, right, that should be
the standard.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And look, we do live in the real world, and
there's never going to be zero crime.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
We know that, right.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But when you know, it's not a flex to say, hey,
we had one hundred.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
And twelve murders last year, we only had one hundred
this year.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
That's not a flax, No, because you're still in the
top five in the country. There's still a major problem there.
And look, I have no issue at all with whether
it's Donald try making mouse. I don't care who it is,
attempting to do what they can to curb crime in
d C or any other place. They ought to go
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to Baltimore too. They ought to go to New York
City too. They ought to go to South Shot. How
about the South Side of Chicago, they ought to go there.
Let's get a hold of this crime problem that is
just going rampant in our cities. Look, Batanur's Louisiana. No
flex there. Their crime sucks too, and they need help too.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah, well, what's happening is it seems like we're turning
into a crime culture where it's become so normal that
people are like, oh, okay, there's one hundred murders. We
don't stop and look at the faces of every single victim.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
We don't stop and realize that these people are up.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
This is us, this is happening too, but no one
realizes it until it's their family, and then they go,
wait a minute, Wait.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
A minute, I think you've hit hit the nail on
the head when I think this is more about the
person doing it than the action itself, because I don't
know of anybody in the right mind that would have
an issue with what's being done unless they have an
issue with the person doing it.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I have no issue or they're doing crime.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Other than that, I can't understand it. I really can't
understand it.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
All right, So let's move to Kentucky and this story
hurt my heart, and you're going to see why. A
Louisville woman was abducted from her home near the Oxmoor
Center along with her two children, before being forced to
withdraw twenty thousand dollars from a local bank at knife
point this past Friday. The suspect Armand Langford, thirty two
(27:40):
years old, was arrested later that day and faces multiple
charges including robbery, kidnapping, and assault. Friday morning, Jennifer Strong
was making breakfast for her children when she heard her
back door open twice. A man later identified as Langford
entered her home armed with a knife. He had a knife,
and he started to yell how many people are in
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this house? Strong said, I put my hands up. I
told him, don't hurt us. Langford ordered Strong, her eleven
year old son, and her seven year old son into
a car. Strong sat in the driver's seat with her
older son behind her, and Langford sat in the back
with her younger son with a knife pressed to Strong's throat.
Langford demanded she drive to the P and C Bank
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on Shelbyville Road near Oxmoor Center. My oldest son had
his arms around my neck and he was begging the
guy in the back seat not to kill me. Strong said.
I asked him if I could reach around and hold
my youngest son's hand, and he said yes. And I
just have to tell you, I can I visualize this
that her poor son is behind her and has his
arms around her neck to protect her neck from that knife.
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I just see it like in my soul, and that
poor baby was gonna protect his mama.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
That makes me sad.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Langford instructed Strong to drive faster, but she refused, saying
there were many police in the neighborhood. Strong, a true
crime enthusiast, said she tried. I had to gain Langford's
trust by sharing personal information.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I told the guy my.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Oldest son was autistic, to please not hurt us, that
my youngest son was very scared. She said, if this
is gonna happen, fighting him isn't the right way to
do it. He has a knife and I have nothing.
At the bank, Strong knocked out the window.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Boom.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
At the bank, Strong knocked on the window as Langford
threatened the teller, I need twenty thousand dollars or I
will kill her now. Strong recounted Langford's threat. Langford then
ordered the children out of the car. Strong feared she
might never see them again. I yelled out of the
car that I loved them, and I said a prayer,
and I took my hand and I grabbed my chest
and I said to myself, this is what it feels
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like to die. I told the bank he's killing me.
Now he's stabbing me again, and then they came out.
Strong said the bank tellers spread twenty thousand dollars on
the ground, Langford grabbed the cash and fled. Strong was
taken to the hospital with stab wounds that came within
centimeters of her Long She was released Friday and reunited
with her family. It was the best moment of my life.
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It will stay the best moment of my life, she said.
Langford was arrested just after four thirty pm Friday near
the Best Buy about a mile from the bank. Police
said Langford broke into Strong's home, then abducted her and
the children before the robbery. The children were not physically harmed,
but they were traumatized by the ordeal. The family said
this never would have happened if Langford had served his
full sentence. In twenty twenty four, Langford was sentenced to
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fourteen years in prison for burglary and robbery charges, but
was released early on shock probation. I want to know
how they're sleeping at night right now, Strong said her husband.
Brandon Strong agreed, adding, you caused this. The physical wounds
from the attack will feel will heal faster than the
emotional scars. Another child was in the home at the time,
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but was asleep upstairs during the attack. My little brother
has autism, and it breaks my heart for him that
he'll never be able to express what he has seen
all the way we can, and that's heartbreaking, she said.
Strong's husband, Brandon, was not home during the incident. That's
what I'm kind of losing sleep about not being here.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Brandon. Strong said the.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Family has already gotten rid of the car used in
the crime because it's too traumatic to be around it.
The day after the attack, strong son turned eight, the
family celebrated grateful everyone was alive to blow out the candles.
Every day is a blessing. Take nothing for granted, Strong said.
Langford is being held in a one billion dollar bond
and faces multiple charges, including five counts of robbery, one
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count of kidnapping an adult, two counts of kidnapping a minor,
and one count of assault. He deserves the same terror
that he inflicted on a Strong said. Langford is scheduled
to be back in court on August the nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, obviously horrible, and this woman, you know, she was smart,
She was trying to do everything she could. She tried
to put him at ease. She tried to get on
a personal level with this person and in order to
build tross. Maybe if he feels like he knows me,
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he won't be able to hurt me, you know, rather
than panicking, which she could have done and just went
the nuts, which everybody would have probably been killed in
that situation.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Smart lady in a really tough situation.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Well, and I feel like, as a mama, if you
put yourself in her shoes, can I hold my baby's hand.
That was to reassure the child too, because my worst
fear would not be being stabbed myself, it would be
that he would stab my child. And so she let
you know her oldest son is holding his arms around
her throat. She's holding her baby's hand in the back
seat and keeping her babies calm. Just don't hurt my babies. Please,
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don't hurt my And every mother feels this right now,
as does that poor dad who who feels lost because
he wasn't there and his role, you know, daddy's roles
are to protect their family.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
But how could he be known he was gone? He
was probably at work.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Oh yeah, it's certainly it's not his fault and.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
She's Hey, their last name is Strong and therefore it
it's the right name because they did everything right. When
you survive, you did everything right.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Mu's go to Louisiana all right, and a freshman ellis
if you football running back turn himself into university police
early Friday afternoon after an arrest. Warrant was issued for
him on two felony counts of accessory after the fact
to second degree murder.
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