In this episode of Crime Wire Weekly, hosts Jim Chapman and Kelly Jennings discuss a series of trending crime stories, including the horrific breaking news of a school shooting in Minnesota that left 17 injured with 2 dead. The FBI has captured a mom on the ten most wanted list. President Trump seeks to end cashless bail, an Oklahoma 11 year old gives birth at home and much more today!
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Topics
1. Cup of Coffee leads to Baton Rouge Shooting at a Gas Station.
2. Mass Shooting at Minnesota School Leaves 17 Injured and 2 Dead.
3. President Donald Trump Seeks to End Cashless Bail.
4. Sheriff Grady Judd Got Drip.
5. Oklahoma 11 Year Old Gives Birth at Home and Step-dad is Charged.
6. Oklahoma Man Sets Sheriff’s Deputy’s House on Fire.
7. Texas Duo Killed While Attempting Home Invasion.
8. Menendez Brothers Denied Parole. 48:45 Texas Mom on FBI Ten Most Wanted List is Captured.
9. "El Mayo” Pleads Guilty to Drug Trafficking in New York.
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Topics
1. Cup of Coffee leads to Baton Rouge Shooting at a Gas Station.
2. Mass Shooting at Minnesota School Leaves 17 Injured and 2 Dead.
3. President Donald Trump Seeks to End Cashless Bail.
4. Sheriff Grady Judd Got Drip.
5. Oklahoma 11 Year Old Gives Birth at Home and Step-dad is Charged.
6. Oklahoma Man Sets Sheriff’s Deputy’s House on Fire.
7. Texas Duo Killed While Attempting Home Invasion.
8. Menendez Brothers Denied Parole. 48:45 Texas Mom on FBI Ten Most Wanted List is Captured.
9. "El Mayo” Pleads Guilty to Drug Trafficking in New York.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, folks, welcome back. We got lots of crime
to cover today. A little look at the topics that
we're gonna be talking about. In Louisiana, a cup of
coffee in a parking lot struggle leads to a gunshot
in the dismissal of the cash. Here in Baton Rouge,
all over a cup of coffee, folks, we're gonna talk
(00:22):
about that. Of course, what's hitting the headlines and Kelly
Jennings and Jim Chapman working very hard for you peeps.
Last night we were all over this tragic case of
a church slash school shooting in Minneapolis. Kelly's gonna bring
you the details on that. Donald Trump has taken the
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steps necessary to end cashless bail. What does this mean
and what type of crimes will be effective? We're gonna
have those answers. Florida Sheriff Grady Judge showed off a
fifty thousand dollars gold chain he snatched from a drug
dealer and holds a press conference in which he showed
off his drip. If you will, you're going to hear
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about that. A man is accused of burglarizing a sheriff's
deputies home and then burning it to the ground. In Oklahoma,
we've got that story. The Menendez brothers have been denied parole,
much to my surprise. Of course, Kelly did a deep
dive on the Menendez brothers on Unspeakable and she's going
(01:26):
to be bringing you that story. On eleven year old
in Oklahoma has given birth at her home and you're
not gonna believe who was charged in this case. We
got that information for you. Two intruders are killed in
Texas after attempting a home invasion and posing as police
officers to get inside the residence. We got that story.
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Also in Texas, the FBI has arrested a mom who
was on the FBI's ten most wanted list for nearly
three years after her son. We got that story. A
man in Illinois shoots his ex girlfriend's new boyfriend when
he walks in on them while they're in bed. We've
got that story. In Mexican drug lord l Mayo pleads
(02:13):
guilty in New York to a ton of drug trafficking charges.
You're gonna hear all about that. Welcome to Crime aar Weekly.
I'm Jim Chapman.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And I'm Kelly Jennings. What a week.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know, Kelly, what a week. I mean, Look, we
picked these stories throughout the week as they come out,
and we probably could have picked sadly, thirty stories to
cover today. That would That are all stories you will
want to hear if you will. It's just been one
busy week. But I was remissing the last episode. We
(02:45):
didn't talk about your birthday at all.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh yeah I had that.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah a birthday. I did recently.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Shout out to my mom forgiving birth to me.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, she should be the one with the cake and
ice cream. How was it?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It was great? Yeah, turned forty one, did laundry. Yeah,
I actually played in my yard. I did forty one
year old things.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Played in your yard. It is forty one year old
thing I play. I we did my garden.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's what I'm saying. And then, my sweetheart, I've been
wanting to put a big flower bed in. I know
this is really entertaining for the listeners, but he did
it for me.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, they like to hear. They like to hear it.
You know what we do outside of cover and crime.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Sure, and hey, they might like this. I built a
house for the frog that lives on my back patio.
I really did this.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
This surprises me. No, y'all. This is someone that wants
to retire and get a farm.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I do, I do, but it's gonna be a mini farm. Well,
I want all miniature animals.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
All miniature animals.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So when I get mad, I can just snatch that
little mini donkey's ass up and say get back in
your pin. I know you're about to do an article
on coffee. I just have to say real quick to
our local people that are listening, if you have not
tried French Settlement coffee. And by the way, this is
not a promo that we were paid anything to do.
We know the owners of that gem and I do personally,
and they started in their home and now they are
selling it now all over the US. Try French Settlement coffee, yall,
(04:05):
because they were just given an award in the Proclamation
of what was it, French Settlement?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It was there, reckon. Now they are recognized as the
official coffee of Livingston Pairs.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
That's what it was. I was too proud to listen
to the actual details.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Apparently, Well, and you're right, they make a great cup
of coffee and incidentally they're top selling. And I'm not
making this up. Their top selling flavors Bloody and goa
hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So shout out to Billy and Shannon. We're very proud
of you for that.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So let's get into this coffee store, right and a
batonerage woman has stole a cup of coffee from a
gas station, then shot at the cashier with the cashier's
own gun during a tussle outside of the store. She
now faces a count of first degree murdered. Let me
tell you what happened. The cashier, Jetty Lee. Now that's
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a great first name, Jetty. That's cool. Jety. That's first
time I've ever heard that. That one now says that not
only was her life put in danger that morning, but
she lost her job because of the incident. Police officers
responded to the scene. This was at a racetrack shortly
after three am Friday, and banners nothing happens good at
a racetrack. At three am, a witness at the eye
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hop next door had called nine one one to report
hearing a gunshot in the direction of the gas station.
During that call, the witness walked over saw two women
scuffling over a firearm in the parking lot. The incident
started as a simple act of shoplifting with Rachel Miles,
who is thirty five, walking into the racetrack and leaving
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with a cup of coffee. The problem was she didn't
pay for it. Lee said that other than the theft,
Miles wasn't being disruptive or violent inside of the store,
but a short time later she had clocked out, retrieved
her purse from her car, and she was having a
little cigarette. Well, Miles starts acting kind of isolent in
the parking lot. Quote, I didn't go outside because she
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had taken that cup of coffee. I mean it's two
dollars and twenty nine cents. That from Lee lisaid, Miles
began to act erratically, pushing a male customer as he
left the gas station. Then Miles approached her grabbed her purse.
That of course escalated the situation. And the reason it
did is because there was a gun in that purse.
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So she said, as I pushed her back, she grabs
my bag. My gun was in my bag, So of
course I'm gonna put my hand on top of the bag,
which it would put it on top of the gun
to keep that from flying out. The other lady saw
the gun, a scuffle ensued. The gun goes off while
still in the purse, with the shot just barely missing
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a bystander. Soon the women were on the ground. They
were wrestling for control of that firearm, and Li said
she managed to eject the magazine from the gun. That's
pretty good when you're scuffling on the ground. But it
was already chambered, so bullet was in the chamber when
she got it again. I didn't have but one more
bullet in it, Lee said, But I could have lost
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my life. She turned the gun on me and pressed
it into my chest and then she said bow bow,
which I guess pop pop her version. Lee said she
was able to flip Miles onto her stomach and hold
her down until police arrived. Miles, who was still armed
with the gun, resisted arrest before being taken into custody.
She was booked into the Eber Parish Prison on one
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count each of attempted first to remurder, arm, robbery, and
a slew of other charges. Before being booked, Miles was
taken to Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center
for treatment. But for Lee, that wasn't the end of
the troubles. She said that the next day she found
out she had been fired from Racetrack for having a
firearm on company property that's against policy. She said she
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had been working at Racetrack for about eight months, and
she said she was acting in self defense. She only
had the gun on her person after she clocked out
from work. Quote, nobody was hurt. I prevented anyone from
being hurt, but I still lose my job. Kelly thoughts, Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Whole situation is on. I hate to say unfortunate, because
that could have been deadly. And I think she's very lucky.
The fact the woman said bow bow and didn't shoot her.
We got some mental we got some instability here.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, and I'm wondering if that woman even knew there
was another bullet in it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't know, But the fact she didn't pull the
trigger is a blessing. I'll say, I'm not a big fan.
I'm definitely not victim blaming here. I'm just not a
big fan of carrying a gun and a purse. I
like it on my perse son so that I can
control the weapon at all times. But yeah, if it
was policy, you're not supposed to have the weapon, and
you had it. It is what it is. And then
this is precisely probably why you're not supposed to have that.
(08:56):
And the outcome, unfortunately, is I feel like the company's
got it right. If that was policy and she broke it.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, and I think that you nailed it. The problem is,
situations like this are much more likely to arise if
you're armed. Look, I worked for a retail establishment for
twenty three years, and the entire time I worked there,
even in in management, we could not carry weapons. Now,
(09:25):
I'm not going to say people didn't, but certainly if
we would have been caught or we would certainly if
we would have been in a position like what this
young lady was in, yeah, that would have been it.
We'd have been fired because it's it's policy, and you
sign you signed that policy.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
She should just cut her losses in this one. You're
done at racetrack. I don't think it's a good fit,
and go find you something else, babe.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, could be a police officer, I mean something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Maybe maybe maybe we're the crackheads, don't hang out outside
of the establishment. Off there, that might be a good,
a better choice or something.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Hey, I'm glad everyone survived. That's good. Thank god she
fought you know, but I'll say this, if you're gonna
carry a gun, it's more than carrying. It's like being
a police officer. Just because you have a bad one
doesn't mean that people are gonna respect you. And you
better be able to fight. So if you're gonna just
carrying a gun, doesn't mean that you're gonna be okay,
because even you carrying a gun inserts a gun into
every situation and as you can see, someone can take
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it from you and it can end your own life.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So well, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Weapon retention matters, all right. Now, speaking of weapons, and
this one's tough. I think if you've been anywhere in
the news in the last twenty four hours, you've heard
of this Catholic school shooting that took place in Minneapolis,
and this one, this one hurts. So police responded to
a mass shooting at a Catholic school in Minneapolis, Minnesota,
on Wednesday, where they said two children were killed and
(10:46):
seventeen people injured. The suspected shooter of a group of
Minneapolis Catholic School students at morning mass Wednesday has been identified,
and we're just gonna do it this here. If you
want to know the name, you can go google it.
We will not refer to this piece of shit on
this show. We will not give any any sort of
reference to this person's name, because they don't deserve it.
He was carrying three firearms, a rifle, a pistol, and
(11:09):
a shotgun. The shooter had their name legally changed to
a different name in twenty nineteen, and FBI Director Cash
Pttel confirmed that the shooter was transgender. Disturbing videos posted
by a person using the name Robin Westman were deleted
from YouTube after the shooting, showing handwritten pages of a notebook,
weapons with messages painted on them, and commentary from whoever
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filmed them. Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara confirmed that police
were aware of a manifesto that the shooter had timed
to be released on YouTube. It appeared to show him
at the scene and included some disturbing writing, the chief said.
He added that all three firearms used in the attack
had been purchased legally by the shooter, who had no
prior criminal record. Police were serving four search warrants, one
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at the crime scene and three more residences in the
Minneapolis metro area. Police seized additional guns from those residential locations.
He said the attack took place at Annunciation Catholic School
on Wednesday morning, but police have not identified any of
the victims. They said two children were killed, and authority
said the shooter committed suicide after the act. Ten victims
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were taken to Hennepink Health Care, which said that it
had received one adult and six children in critical condition,
and another adult and two more children with injuries that
were not life threatening. Three children were still receiving care
at Children's Minnesota, while four other patients were discharged. Our
thoughts are with the victims, their families, and loved ones
in our communities who are impacted by yet another senseless
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act of violence, the hospital said in a statement. We
will not share more details to respect the privacy of
our patients and families. Police said the shooter was dressed
in all black and carrying a black rifle. The Children's
Minnesota hospital said six children are being treated after the shooting.
The hospital would not share details about the patients out
of respect for them and their loved ones.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah. Uh, you know, what do you say about kids,
kids or adults, but especially kids getting just shot and
killed like this. It's absolutely disgusting. We won't dignify this
asshole's name doesn't deserve it. I don't know what the
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answer is here. You know, you watch the news and
the reports on this, and of course most people it's
the gun's fault. Of course, it's not the gun's fault.
It's and then they're looking to blame schools, and they're
looking to blame the police, and they're looking to blame
everybody except the person who actually did it, and that
is who we are to blame in this in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, and so some of the things that were written
he took in this video, laid out a bunch of
his weapons, and then the magazines and all that kind
of stuff, and he wrote he took the time and
like it looks like white paint, like a paint marker
wrote some things on these weapons, and some of it
is just absolutely callous, heartless. F them kids, fuck you
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eat shit. And then a derogatory NRM term for a
gay person. One of the magazines said for the children.
One of them said kick a spic, which is just like,
what is derogatory? Yeah, yeah, there was six six six
on there a random name. It said no remorse. Then
another one said Israel must fall. But there were two
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things that stuck out to me specifically whenever I was
looking at these writings. One of them was it said, uh,
I think it's barute kazad is how you would say it.
And that seemed almost cheesy, because that is like a
battle cry or a war cry for the dwarfish in
the Hobbit, And so I couldn't quite understand that one
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other than it was supposed to be a war cry
and unless there's another meaning to that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Of a crazy put right.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But this is the thing that really got me. On
one of them, it said have fun. Now off the top,
that just sounds like cruel wording. But if you know
anything about the Columbine shooting whatsoever, at the end of
their manifesto, at the very end of their manifesto where
they wrote what their plans were, it said have fun.
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That is how they ended it. And I think that
that's an I think that that's an ode to Columbine.
And if what this proves, and my point in telling
sharing this is it's like, you don't want to share
this news because you don't want to shed the light
on it. But the issue is that when we give credit,
and that's not even the word that should be used.
But when we validate this person's gripes or their concerns
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or whatever it is, and then we put their name
to it, and then we blast it all over the
media of their picture and all of this kind.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Of stuff, that's what they want.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That's what they want. But it also inspires other who
I think mentally ill people. It inspires them. It shows
them that it can't be we can get even, we
can we can exact revenge, I guess, even though these
children had nothing to do with it on people and
there was all This is called leakage, by the way,
if you don't know. And so whenever, uh, there are
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shootings like this, mass shootings, it's actually very common when
you look at tag assessments or threat group threat assessment
groups that leakage is actually a very common thing. But
what's what he did here was he didn't leak it
ahead of time. He scheduled it to leak after And
so yeah, maybe he did that on purpose.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh he Well, I think he did because at leaked
the same time that the shootings.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Were going on, and he was very clear to say
only sorry to my family. Otherwise I have no remorse
for this, and let me tell you what. You're not sorry,
then you have no clue what the word sorry means none,
because if you're sorry about something premptively and then you
still go do it, you're.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Not sorry, No, of course not.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, And right do you wonder? And I want to
ask you this. And I know someone right now is
going to want to jump down my throat. But they
were then blasting his mother on the news, and because
she worked at the school and a part of me.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
And incidentally worked there till twenty twenty one and it
had been several years, just clearing that up.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, and incidentally in a way, I'm like, you know,
I wanted to be like this woman. She may not
have even known because he bought the guns. I mean, yeah,
in this moment right now, I'm too emotional. I think
about what these kids experience. And they saw I saw
one kid say that his friend Victor was the baby's name.
He said, I jumped under a pew and then my
friend Victor got on top of me and he got shot.
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And this was just minutes after it happened. I'm like,
is that kid's got to be and she's shot?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, And that's things also that's the collateral damage of
that that people maybe don't think as hard about is
the witnesses and what they're going to get through for
the rest of their life, especially a young mind that
it is easily reared. You know, how do you overcome
That's something you carry with you the rest of your life.
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Even the survivors.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
How do you defend fanaticism? How do you protect yourself
from someone who's just a loose cannon? You know, I
don't know. We need to watch how this progresses. I
know I want to send my personal love and it's
not good enough. It's not enough to the families. But
we care, strangers care, and in some weight our prayers
I hope reach them.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Right. Let's go to the next story, and we're going
to talk about Donald Trump and his steps to end
cashless bail. So let me tell you what happened. On
August twenty fifth of twenty twenty five, President Donald Trump
signed two executive orders that were aimed at ending cashless
bell citing public safety concerns. Now one order is national
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in scope, where the other is specifically dialed down to Washington,
d C. Where cashless bails and policies have been in
effect for decades. So the nationwide order says that District
Attorney General Pam Bondie, she's compiled the lists of states
and jurisdictions that have eliminated or substantially reduced cash bail.
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The order requires identifying federal funds, including grants and contracts,
that could be suspended or terminated for these jurisdictions. Washington
dec specific order targets, obviously the District of Columbia in particular,
where the administration had already declared a public safety emergency.
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It instructs law enforcement agencies to pursue federal charges and
holds arrestees in federal custody wherever possible bypassing the city's
cash list bail system. And there's calls for identifying appropriate
actions quote unquote to pressure DC to change its policies.
In what the basically saying is, if you don't change
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these policies, you're not going to get federal funding, or
it will affect federal funding. Now. The rationale for the
executive orders. Trump stated that the cash list bail is
a disaster and enables criminals to be released to commit
further crimes. The White House pointed to a twenty twenty
three study by the District Attorney's office in Yolo County, California.
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They claimed a temporary cash list bail system during COVID
nineteen led to increased recidivism. The National Shares Association also
released a statement in support of the President's actions. Now,
those that do not like this executive order their debate
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on this, as they say cashless bill is a more
equitable system that doesn't penalize low income individuals who can't
afford to pay for their own release. They also say
that forcing low income defendants to remain in jail pretrial
can lead to loss of job, housing, in child custody opportunities,
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and the data cited by the White House, according to them,
is not representative as the California study was a temporary measure,
So the studies that others have done on bail reform
have kind of mixed results. A twenty twenty four study
showed that no statistically significant relationship between bail reform and
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crime rates exist. However, other analysis like that one in
California that I mentioned, have found that associations between cash
lists bail and higher reciptivism rates do exist. The DC
Mayor Mural Bowser said that the city's approach was good,
noting that recent amendments to its bail laws, and pointed
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to data suggesting no increase in the violent crime is
linked to pre trial release. So what do you think
about this?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You know, I wanted to give some examples, though, so
it's easy to say, just off the top, okay, this
could happen, or this will happen. But here were some
examples of cases that are cited from twenty twenty two
and through twenty twenty four that this would matter. Okay,
So in twenty twenty two, a New York City man
was released without bail after he smeared his own feces
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on a random woman waiting for the subway. This guy
already had dozens of arrests, including beating up a bus
driver just months earlier, and he has a hate crime
that he had been charged with, and yet he was
just cut loose under this concept. Another one in twenty
twenty two, a New York man brutally executed a mother
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in front of her three children less than twenty four
hours after he was freed without bail and a violent
assault of the same woman. The man had a prior
conviction for kidnapping his ex girlfriend at gunpoint. It goes
on and on. Two illegal immigrants jumped some New York
cops and then bit them, like physically bit them and
attack them, cut them loose without bail. And there's a
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bunch of these that you can look up.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well, and so let me let me say this real quick,
since you're on that point, But you could say that
for people that paid.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Bill, you could, but why make it easier? And so
I think maybe discretion here matters. Discretion always matters. But
you know, I guess there could be an argument that
if you're a single mom who got arrested for you know,
I don't know, shoplifting or something, well, does it say
just violent crime or non violent or did it specify.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
From what I understand, it's it's going to be for more.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Violent for the more violent event, Okay, violence. Look, if
you're a violent to be specific, h that's the discretion
I'm talking about. So, but if you're a violent offender,
sorry not sorry, if that means you're hurting people or
you have the potential to hurt people. As just evidence,
you put your shit on me while I'm waiting for
a bus. You might eat a bullet, you know what
I'm saying. So we're going to curb crime by keeping
these people from offending up just kidding allegedly and just
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joking for entertainment purposes only. But that that's that's that's unspeakable,
that's disgusting. I mean, kids saw their own mother murdered.
How are we letting these people out? Like, give me
a break?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, and that And to me, that's really the question is.
And I get it. Look, we're in the United States,
are until proven guilty. I gets our system. That's what
separates us from ninety nine point nine percent of the world.
I get that, I am, I am.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But that's the point of bail. The whole point the
reason that bail was made was because I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Agree with the exactly order personally, but I do see
some points on both sides of that. If you're someone
that you know, you you struggle and make ends meet,
and maybe you're charged with something you didn't do.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Then you're screamed, Like I mean, if you got caught
with none of those happened weed or something that's legal
in some states and not other. I get that, you know,
things things like that could happen and I'm not minimizing
anything but relative Okay, we got such relativity matters, discretion
matters here, the crime matter, the crime matters, and the
risk okay, because this is all about risk. If they're
talking about recidivism rates, this is all about risks. And
(25:06):
so look at these offenders. Who is at most risk
excuse me, most risk to go reoffend somebody, and let's
do something. We've got to stop victims from happening.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, and look they are, it's already. I don't want
to say easy enough, but I would unless you're charged
with like first degree martyr, second degree murder or something
like that, your bail is not going to be insanely
I anyway, you only have to pay twelve percent. So
if a bail is one thousand dollars, you've got to
pay twelve bucks to get out of jail. If your
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bail's thirty thousand dollars, maybe come up with one hundred
and fifty or one hundred and twenty something like that,
whatever it is. But unless you're charged with a major
violent crime, I don't think money would be the issue
for most people.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah. Well, and that's why they got bondsmen and stuff too.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
But that's right. You only pay twelve percent of it
through a.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Bond, and to act like this is totally out of
pocket is kind of crazy because in certain situations, judges
have the authority to hold someone without bail. Why because
they are considered to be a great danger to society
or a flight risk or whatever. So it's not like
this is this egregious, crazy thing that they're making it
out to be, and it's to protect people. Yep, it's so,
(26:19):
you know, I'm with it. I'm down. Hopefully they rein
it in though, so that it doesn't affect the little
guy on the totem bole.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
But you know what I'm saying, Yeah, there's always outliers
that you feel bad for that maybe they didn't do something,
they were charged with it and now they're stuck in jail.
But those are such a low percentage of the overall crime.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I think people would be smart enough to understand what
this is for. Yeah, all right, let's go to Florida,
where I'm just such a fan of Sheriff Grady Judd.
I will say that every day, but Sheriff Grady Judd
and no nonsense Florida sheriff known for his tough talking
and showmanship, announced the takedown of a drug trafficking gang
by donning the ringleader's gold chain and bracelet during a
(26:58):
press conference. The polk on the sheriff, wore the jewelry
to drive home what he called the deadly consequences of
so called low level drug dealing. He also held up
seized guns to underline his point that dealers are armed
and dangerous. This is a quote. I got their drip,
I got their body, we got their guns, we got
their dope. That's what Judd said Friday, unveiling the results
(27:20):
of a year long investigation that led to the arrests
of thirty two suspects in Bartow. Judd identified Nathaniel Nate Donald,
a repeat offender, as heading the network and said a
member of his rings sold cocaine to sixty five year
old Irene Anderson on a Saturday night last year. Anderson
then collapsed and died hours later as she was on
her way to church. She was walking out of her
(27:41):
house to church when she collapsed, So she died so
Nate could have this drip, jud said, did you hear
what I said? He's buying this drip from selling drugs
to people on the streets, one of which died. Judd
said law enforcement carried out six wire intercepts and eight
search warrants in Bartow last November, which uncovered fifty thousand
dollars worth of jewelry. But I want you to imagine
(28:04):
this for a minute. People continue to tell you that
drugs are low level and nonviolent. Jud said, there are
anything but low level and nonviolent. Where you see fifty
thousand dollars in drip, where you see the not so
dangerous drug of cannabis, you see guns, you see first
degree murder from overdose. Detectives identified Donald, Brian B. Myrick,
(28:25):
and Isaiah Bubba Donald as key members of the network. Myrik,
who is released from prison in twenty twenty one for
cocaine trafficking, now faces dozens of new counts, including conspiracy
to sell cocaine and trafficking methamphetamine, fentanyl, and MDMA. Troy Walker,
supplied by Myrik, sold the cocaine to Anderson and has
since been indicted for first degree murder in her overdose death.
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In total, investigator sees thousands of grams of illegal drugs
with a combined street value of one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. Arrests included suspects already on probation or pre
trial relief pe and several firearms were recovered from convicted felons.
Detectives said this suspects combined criminal histories add up to
five hundred and fifty four felonies and three hundred and
(29:10):
ninety four misdemeanors. Judd said the only place for drug
dealers is in prison because when they are released, they
quickly reoffend, often with deadly consequences. They're a menace to society.
They've got to stay in prison or people die. Jud said,
whoever tells you that narcotics is low level and non violent,
they're crazy. The investigation, dubbed Operation Capital City Crackdown, began
(29:31):
in August of twenty twenty four. It was led by
PCSO's Tactical Drug Unit, Organized Crime Unit, and HIDTA Task Force,
which are with support from the State Attorney's Office, Homeland
Security Investigations, US Border Patrol, FDL, e FBI, the Bartow
Police Department, and other partners.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, So, Sheriff Gardi jub We've talked about him many times.
He is he's a badass. I mean, he's just awesome
finished since the late seventies, I believe, never been raying
against I don't think since he's been in office, which
g y'all know how rare that is for a sheriff.
(30:11):
You're spending your time arresting people. You're pissing a lot
of people off, you know, and he is just the man.
But if you saw him walk into this press conference,
and we'll put a picture of it on the Facebook page,
he's got a fifty like she said, a fifty thousand
dollars chain for those of you that don't know what
drip is, and it is something you think you would
(30:33):
see on run dmcwuck.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And I gotta say this, how fucking stupid are these guys? Okay,
you made fifty thousand dollars and you bought a fucking change.
Oh yeah, Like, I guarantee you they have kids. I
guarantee you. I don't even know these guys. I bet
you there's a bunch of kids that aren't being taken
care of in this situation. And you took fifty grand
to buy a damn necklace. Like you're not even bright,
You're not even smart. Why didn't you go put a
(30:55):
down payment on a house or something like. You know,
and I'm not saying drug sales should be is a
good thing, but you're not even smart. You're running around
with a bunch of wannabes totin guns killing people to
wear a damn necklace. Like how ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All right, Let's go to Oklahoma and an Oklahoma man
is arrested after his eleven year old stepdaughter gave birth
at home. He has now been charged with sexual abuse
of a child. Dustin and Shurie Walker, we're both arrested
last week and initially charged with felony child neglect after
(31:33):
the eleven year old girl gave birth to a full
term baby August sixteenth at home.
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Thanks for listening.
All right, folks, welcome back. We got lots of crime
to cover today. A little look at the topics that
we're gonna be talking about. In Louisiana, a cup of
coffee in a parking lot struggle leads to a gunshot
in the dismissal of the cash. Here in Baton Rouge,
all over a cup of coffee, folks, we're gonna talk
(00:22):
about that. Of course, what's hitting the headlines and Kelly
Jennings and Jim Chapman working very hard for you peeps.
Last night we were all over this tragic case of
a church slash school shooting in Minneapolis. Kelly's gonna bring
you the details on that. Donald Trump has taken the
(00:43):
steps necessary to end cashless bail. What does this mean
and what type of crimes will be effective? We're gonna
have those answers. Florida Sheriff Grady Judge showed off a
fifty thousand dollars gold chain he snatched from a drug
dealer and holds a press conference in which he showed
off his drip. If you will, you're going to hear
(01:05):
about that. A man is accused of burglarizing a sheriff's
deputies home and then burning it to the ground. In Oklahoma,
we've got that story. The Menendez brothers have been denied parole,
much to my surprise. Of course, Kelly did a deep
dive on the Menendez brothers on Unspeakable and she's going
(01:26):
to be bringing you that story. On eleven year old
in Oklahoma has given birth at her home and you're
not gonna believe who was charged in this case. We
got that information for you. Two intruders are killed in
Texas after attempting a home invasion and posing as police
officers to get inside the residence. We got that story.
(01:50):
Also in Texas, the FBI has arrested a mom who
was on the FBI's ten most wanted list for nearly
three years after her son. We got that story. A
man in Illinois shoots his ex girlfriend's new boyfriend when
he walks in on them while they're in bed. We've
got that story. In Mexican drug lord l Mayo pleads
(02:13):
guilty in New York to a ton of drug trafficking charges.
You're gonna hear all about that. Welcome to Crime aar Weekly.
I'm Jim Chapman.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And I'm Kelly Jennings. What a week.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know, Kelly, what a week. I mean, Look, we
picked these stories throughout the week as they come out,
and we probably could have picked sadly, thirty stories to
cover today. That would That are all stories you will
want to hear if you will. It's just been one
busy week. But I was remissing the last episode. We
(02:45):
didn't talk about your birthday at all.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh yeah I had that.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah a birthday. I did recently.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Shout out to my mom forgiving birth to me.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, she should be the one with the cake and
ice cream. How was it?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It was great? Yeah, turned forty one, did laundry. Yeah,
I actually played in my yard. I did forty one
year old things.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Played in your yard. It is forty one year old
thing I play. I we did my garden.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's what I'm saying. And then, my sweetheart, I've been
wanting to put a big flower bed in. I know
this is really entertaining for the listeners, but he did
it for me.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, they like to hear. They like to hear it.
You know what we do outside of cover and crime.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Sure, and hey, they might like this. I built a
house for the frog that lives on my back patio.
I really did this.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
This surprises me. No, y'all. This is someone that wants
to retire and get a farm.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I do, I do, but it's gonna be a mini farm. Well,
I want all miniature animals.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
All miniature animals.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So when I get mad, I can just snatch that
little mini donkey's ass up and say get back in
your pin. I know you're about to do an article
on coffee. I just have to say real quick to
our local people that are listening, if you have not
tried French Settlement coffee. And by the way, this is
not a promo that we were paid anything to do.
We know the owners of that gem and I do personally,
and they started in their home and now they are
selling it now all over the US. Try French Settlement coffee, yall,
(04:05):
because they were just given an award in the Proclamation
of what was it, French Settlement?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It was there, reckon. Now they are recognized as the
official coffee of Livingston Pairs.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
That's what it was. I was too proud to listen
to the actual details.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Apparently, Well, and you're right, they make a great cup
of coffee and incidentally they're top selling. And I'm not
making this up. Their top selling flavors Bloody and goa
hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So shout out to Billy and Shannon. We're very proud
of you for that.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So let's get into this coffee store, right and a
batonerage woman has stole a cup of coffee from a
gas station, then shot at the cashier with the cashier's
own gun during a tussle outside of the store. She
now faces a count of first degree murdered. Let me
tell you what happened. The cashier, Jetty Lee. Now that's
(04:55):
a great first name, Jetty. That's cool. Jety. That's first
time I've ever heard that. That one now says that not
only was her life put in danger that morning, but
she lost her job because of the incident. Police officers
responded to the scene. This was at a racetrack shortly
after three am Friday, and banners nothing happens good at
a racetrack. At three am, a witness at the eye
(05:19):
hop next door had called nine one one to report
hearing a gunshot in the direction of the gas station.
During that call, the witness walked over saw two women
scuffling over a firearm in the parking lot. The incident
started as a simple act of shoplifting with Rachel Miles,
who is thirty five, walking into the racetrack and leaving
(05:41):
with a cup of coffee. The problem was she didn't
pay for it. Lee said that other than the theft,
Miles wasn't being disruptive or violent inside of the store,
but a short time later she had clocked out, retrieved
her purse from her car, and she was having a
little cigarette. Well, Miles starts acting kind of isolent in
the parking lot. Quote, I didn't go outside because she
(06:04):
had taken that cup of coffee. I mean it's two
dollars and twenty nine cents. That from Lee lisaid, Miles
began to act erratically, pushing a male customer as he
left the gas station. Then Miles approached her grabbed her purse.
That of course escalated the situation. And the reason it
did is because there was a gun in that purse.
(06:27):
So she said, as I pushed her back, she grabs
my bag. My gun was in my bag, So of
course I'm gonna put my hand on top of the bag,
which it would put it on top of the gun
to keep that from flying out. The other lady saw
the gun, a scuffle ensued. The gun goes off while
still in the purse, with the shot just barely missing
(06:49):
a bystander. Soon the women were on the ground. They
were wrestling for control of that firearm, and Li said
she managed to eject the magazine from the gun. That's
pretty good when you're scuffling on the ground. But it
was already chambered, so bullet was in the chamber when
she got it again. I didn't have but one more
bullet in it, Lee said, But I could have lost
(07:11):
my life. She turned the gun on me and pressed
it into my chest and then she said bow bow,
which I guess pop pop her version. Lee said she
was able to flip Miles onto her stomach and hold
her down until police arrived. Miles, who was still armed
with the gun, resisted arrest before being taken into custody.
She was booked into the Eber Parish Prison on one
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count each of attempted first to remurder, arm, robbery, and
a slew of other charges. Before being booked, Miles was
taken to Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center
for treatment. But for Lee, that wasn't the end of
the troubles. She said that the next day she found
out she had been fired from Racetrack for having a
firearm on company property that's against policy. She said she
(07:57):
had been working at Racetrack for about eight months, and
she said she was acting in self defense. She only
had the gun on her person after she clocked out
from work. Quote, nobody was hurt. I prevented anyone from
being hurt, but I still lose my job. Kelly thoughts, Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Whole situation is on. I hate to say unfortunate, because
that could have been deadly. And I think she's very lucky.
The fact the woman said bow bow and didn't shoot her.
We got some mental we got some instability here.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, and I'm wondering if that woman even knew there
was another bullet in it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't know, But the fact she didn't pull the
trigger is a blessing. I'll say, I'm not a big fan.
I'm definitely not victim blaming here. I'm just not a
big fan of carrying a gun and a purse. I
like it on my perse son so that I can
control the weapon at all times. But yeah, if it
was policy, you're not supposed to have the weapon, and
you had it. It is what it is. And then
this is precisely probably why you're not supposed to have that.
(08:56):
And the outcome, unfortunately, is I feel like the company's
got it right. If that was policy and she broke it.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, and I think that you nailed it. The problem is,
situations like this are much more likely to arise if
you're armed. Look, I worked for a retail establishment for
twenty three years, and the entire time I worked there,
even in in management, we could not carry weapons. Now,
(09:25):
I'm not going to say people didn't, but certainly if
we would have been caught or we would certainly if
we would have been in a position like what this
young lady was in, yeah, that would have been it.
We'd have been fired because it's it's policy, and you
sign you signed that policy.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
She should just cut her losses in this one. You're
done at racetrack. I don't think it's a good fit,
and go find you something else, babe.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, could be a police officer, I mean something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Maybe maybe maybe we're the crackheads, don't hang out outside
of the establishment. Off there, that might be a good,
a better choice or something.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Hey, I'm glad everyone survived. That's good. Thank god she
fought you know, but I'll say this, if you're gonna
carry a gun, it's more than carrying. It's like being
a police officer. Just because you have a bad one
doesn't mean that people are gonna respect you. And you
better be able to fight. So if you're gonna just
carrying a gun, doesn't mean that you're gonna be okay,
because even you carrying a gun inserts a gun into
every situation and as you can see, someone can take
(10:22):
it from you and it can end your own life.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So well, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Weapon retention matters, all right. Now, speaking of weapons, and
this one's tough. I think if you've been anywhere in
the news in the last twenty four hours, you've heard
of this Catholic school shooting that took place in Minneapolis,
and this one, this one hurts. So police responded to
a mass shooting at a Catholic school in Minneapolis, Minnesota,
on Wednesday, where they said two children were killed and
(10:46):
seventeen people injured. The suspected shooter of a group of
Minneapolis Catholic School students at morning mass Wednesday has been identified,
and we're just gonna do it this here. If you
want to know the name, you can go google it.
We will not refer to this piece of shit on
this show. We will not give any any sort of
reference to this person's name, because they don't deserve it.
He was carrying three firearms, a rifle, a pistol, and
(11:09):
a shotgun. The shooter had their name legally changed to
a different name in twenty nineteen, and FBI Director Cash
Pttel confirmed that the shooter was transgender. Disturbing videos posted
by a person using the name Robin Westman were deleted
from YouTube after the shooting, showing handwritten pages of a notebook,
weapons with messages painted on them, and commentary from whoever
(11:31):
filmed them. Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara confirmed that police
were aware of a manifesto that the shooter had timed
to be released on YouTube. It appeared to show him
at the scene and included some disturbing writing, the chief said.
He added that all three firearms used in the attack
had been purchased legally by the shooter, who had no
prior criminal record. Police were serving four search warrants, one
(11:54):
at the crime scene and three more residences in the
Minneapolis metro area. Police seized additional guns from those residential locations.
He said the attack took place at Annunciation Catholic School
on Wednesday morning, but police have not identified any of
the victims. They said two children were killed, and authority
said the shooter committed suicide after the act. Ten victims
(12:14):
were taken to Hennepink Health Care, which said that it
had received one adult and six children in critical condition,
and another adult and two more children with injuries that
were not life threatening. Three children were still receiving care
at Children's Minnesota, while four other patients were discharged. Our
thoughts are with the victims, their families, and loved ones
in our communities who are impacted by yet another senseless
(12:36):
act of violence, the hospital said in a statement. We
will not share more details to respect the privacy of
our patients and families. Police said the shooter was dressed
in all black and carrying a black rifle. The Children's
Minnesota hospital said six children are being treated after the shooting.
The hospital would not share details about the patients out
of respect for them and their loved ones.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah. Uh, you know, what do you say about kids,
kids or adults, but especially kids getting just shot and
killed like this. It's absolutely disgusting. We won't dignify this
asshole's name doesn't deserve it. I don't know what the
(13:20):
answer is here. You know, you watch the news and
the reports on this, and of course most people it's
the gun's fault. Of course, it's not the gun's fault.
It's and then they're looking to blame schools, and they're
looking to blame the police, and they're looking to blame
everybody except the person who actually did it, and that
is who we are to blame in this in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, and so some of the things that were written
he took in this video, laid out a bunch of
his weapons, and then the magazines and all that kind
of stuff, and he wrote he took the time and
like it looks like white paint, like a paint marker
wrote some things on these weapons, and some of it
is just absolutely callous, heartless. F them kids, fuck you
(14:07):
eat shit. And then a derogatory NRM term for a
gay person. One of the magazines said for the children.
One of them said kick a spic, which is just like,
what is derogatory? Yeah, yeah, there was six six six
on there a random name. It said no remorse. Then
another one said Israel must fall. But there were two
(14:28):
things that stuck out to me specifically whenever I was
looking at these writings. One of them was it said, uh,
I think it's barute kazad is how you would say it.
And that seemed almost cheesy, because that is like a
battle cry or a war cry for the dwarfish in
the Hobbit, And so I couldn't quite understand that one
(14:51):
other than it was supposed to be a war cry
and unless there's another meaning to that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Of a crazy put right.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But this is the thing that really got me. On
one of them, it said have fun. Now off the top,
that just sounds like cruel wording. But if you know
anything about the Columbine shooting whatsoever, at the end of
their manifesto, at the very end of their manifesto where
they wrote what their plans were, it said have fun.
(15:21):
That is how they ended it. And I think that
that's an I think that that's an ode to Columbine.
And if what this proves, and my point in telling
sharing this is it's like, you don't want to share
this news because you don't want to shed the light
on it. But the issue is that when we give credit,
and that's not even the word that should be used.
But when we validate this person's gripes or their concerns
(15:44):
or whatever it is, and then we put their name
to it, and then we blast it all over the
media of their picture and all of this kind.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Of stuff, that's what they want.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That's what they want. But it also inspires other who
I think mentally ill people. It inspires them. It shows
them that it can't be we can get even, we
can we can exact revenge, I guess, even though these
children had nothing to do with it on people and
there was all This is called leakage, by the way,
if you don't know. And so whenever, uh, there are
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shootings like this, mass shootings, it's actually very common when
you look at tag assessments or threat group threat assessment
groups that leakage is actually a very common thing. But
what's what he did here was he didn't leak it
ahead of time. He scheduled it to leak after And
so yeah, maybe he did that on purpose.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh he Well, I think he did because at leaked
the same time that the shootings.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Were going on, and he was very clear to say
only sorry to my family. Otherwise I have no remorse
for this, and let me tell you what. You're not sorry,
then you have no clue what the word sorry means none,
because if you're sorry about something premptively and then you
still go do it, you're.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Not sorry, No, of course not.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, And right do you wonder? And I want to
ask you this. And I know someone right now is
going to want to jump down my throat. But they
were then blasting his mother on the news, and because
she worked at the school and a part of me.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
And incidentally worked there till twenty twenty one and it
had been several years, just clearing that up.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, and incidentally in a way, I'm like, you know,
I wanted to be like this woman. She may not
have even known because he bought the guns. I mean, yeah,
in this moment right now, I'm too emotional. I think
about what these kids experience. And they saw I saw
one kid say that his friend Victor was the baby's name.
He said, I jumped under a pew and then my
friend Victor got on top of me and he got shot.
(17:41):
And this was just minutes after it happened. I'm like,
is that kid's got to be and she's shot?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, And that's things also that's the collateral damage of
that that people maybe don't think as hard about is
the witnesses and what they're going to get through for
the rest of their life, especially a young mind that
it is easily reared. You know, how do you overcome
That's something you carry with you the rest of your life.
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Even the survivors.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
How do you defend fanaticism? How do you protect yourself
from someone who's just a loose cannon? You know, I
don't know. We need to watch how this progresses. I
know I want to send my personal love and it's
not good enough. It's not enough to the families. But
we care, strangers care, and in some weight our prayers
I hope reach them.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Right. Let's go to the next story, and we're going
to talk about Donald Trump and his steps to end
cashless bail. So let me tell you what happened. On
August twenty fifth of twenty twenty five, President Donald Trump
signed two executive orders that were aimed at ending cashless
bell citing public safety concerns. Now one order is national
(18:53):
in scope, where the other is specifically dialed down to Washington,
d C. Where cashless bails and policies have been in
effect for decades. So the nationwide order says that District
Attorney General Pam Bondie, she's compiled the lists of states
and jurisdictions that have eliminated or substantially reduced cash bail.
(19:18):
The order requires identifying federal funds, including grants and contracts,
that could be suspended or terminated for these jurisdictions. Washington
dec specific order targets, obviously the District of Columbia in particular,
where the administration had already declared a public safety emergency.
(19:39):
It instructs law enforcement agencies to pursue federal charges and
holds arrestees in federal custody wherever possible bypassing the city's
cash list bail system. And there's calls for identifying appropriate
actions quote unquote to pressure DC to change its policies.
In what the basically saying is, if you don't change
(20:02):
these policies, you're not going to get federal funding, or
it will affect federal funding. Now. The rationale for the
executive orders. Trump stated that the cash list bail is
a disaster and enables criminals to be released to commit
further crimes. The White House pointed to a twenty twenty
three study by the District Attorney's office in Yolo County, California.
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They claimed a temporary cash list bail system during COVID
nineteen led to increased recidivism. The National Shares Association also
released a statement in support of the President's actions. Now,
those that do not like this executive order their debate
(20:45):
on this, as they say cashless bill is a more
equitable system that doesn't penalize low income individuals who can't
afford to pay for their own release. They also say
that forcing low income defendants to remain in jail pretrial
can lead to loss of job, housing, in child custody opportunities,
(21:06):
and the data cited by the White House, according to them,
is not representative as the California study was a temporary measure,
So the studies that others have done on bail reform
have kind of mixed results. A twenty twenty four study
showed that no statistically significant relationship between bail reform and
(21:28):
crime rates exist. However, other analysis like that one in
California that I mentioned, have found that associations between cash
lists bail and higher reciptivism rates do exist. The DC
Mayor Mural Bowser said that the city's approach was good,
noting that recent amendments to its bail laws, and pointed
(21:51):
to data suggesting no increase in the violent crime is
linked to pre trial release. So what do you think
about this?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You know, I wanted to give some examples, though, so
it's easy to say, just off the top, okay, this
could happen, or this will happen. But here were some
examples of cases that are cited from twenty twenty two
and through twenty twenty four that this would matter. Okay,
So in twenty twenty two, a New York City man
was released without bail after he smeared his own feces
(22:22):
on a random woman waiting for the subway. This guy
already had dozens of arrests, including beating up a bus
driver just months earlier, and he has a hate crime
that he had been charged with, and yet he was
just cut loose under this concept. Another one in twenty
twenty two, a New York man brutally executed a mother
(22:42):
in front of her three children less than twenty four
hours after he was freed without bail and a violent
assault of the same woman. The man had a prior
conviction for kidnapping his ex girlfriend at gunpoint. It goes
on and on. Two illegal immigrants jumped some New York
cops and then bit them, like physically bit them and
attack them, cut them loose without bail. And there's a
(23:03):
bunch of these that you can look up.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well, and so let me let me say this real quick,
since you're on that point, But you could say that
for people that paid.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Bill, you could, but why make it easier? And so
I think maybe discretion here matters. Discretion always matters. But
you know, I guess there could be an argument that
if you're a single mom who got arrested for you know,
I don't know, shoplifting or something, well, does it say
just violent crime or non violent or did it specify.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
From what I understand, it's it's going to be for more.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Violent for the more violent event, Okay, violence. Look, if
you're a violent to be specific, h that's the discretion
I'm talking about. So, but if you're a violent offender,
sorry not sorry, if that means you're hurting people or
you have the potential to hurt people. As just evidence,
you put your shit on me while I'm waiting for
a bus. You might eat a bullet, you know what
I'm saying. So we're going to curb crime by keeping
these people from offending up just kidding allegedly and just
(23:56):
joking for entertainment purposes only. But that that's that's that's unspeakable,
that's disgusting. I mean, kids saw their own mother murdered.
How are we letting these people out? Like, give me
a break?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, and that And to me, that's really the question is.
And I get it. Look, we're in the United States,
are until proven guilty. I gets our system. That's what
separates us from ninety nine point nine percent of the world.
I get that, I am, I am.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But that's the point of bail. The whole point the
reason that bail was made was because I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Agree with the exactly order personally, but I do see
some points on both sides of that. If you're someone
that you know, you you struggle and make ends meet,
and maybe you're charged with something you didn't do.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Then you're screamed, Like I mean, if you got caught
with none of those happened weed or something that's legal
in some states and not other. I get that, you know,
things things like that could happen and I'm not minimizing
anything but relative Okay, we got such relativity matters, discretion
matters here, the crime matter, the crime matters, and the
risk okay, because this is all about risk. If they're
talking about recidivism rates, this is all about risks. And
(25:06):
so look at these offenders. Who is at most risk
excuse me, most risk to go reoffend somebody, and let's
do something. We've got to stop victims from happening.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, and look they are, it's already. I don't want
to say easy enough, but I would unless you're charged
with like first degree martyr, second degree murder or something
like that, your bail is not going to be insanely
I anyway, you only have to pay twelve percent. So
if a bail is one thousand dollars, you've got to
pay twelve bucks to get out of jail. If your
(25:37):
bail's thirty thousand dollars, maybe come up with one hundred
and fifty or one hundred and twenty something like that,
whatever it is. But unless you're charged with a major
violent crime, I don't think money would be the issue
for most people.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah. Well, and that's why they got bondsmen and stuff too.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
But that's right. You only pay twelve percent of it
through a.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Bond, and to act like this is totally out of
pocket is kind of crazy because in certain situations, judges
have the authority to hold someone without bail. Why because
they are considered to be a great danger to society
or a flight risk or whatever. So it's not like
this is this egregious, crazy thing that they're making it
out to be, and it's to protect people. Yep, it's so,
(26:19):
you know, I'm with it. I'm down. Hopefully they rein
it in though, so that it doesn't affect the little
guy on the totem bole.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
But you know what I'm saying, Yeah, there's always outliers
that you feel bad for that maybe they didn't do something,
they were charged with it and now they're stuck in jail.
But those are such a low percentage of the overall crime.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I think people would be smart enough to understand what
this is for. Yeah, all right, let's go to Florida,
where I'm just such a fan of Sheriff Grady Judd.
I will say that every day, but Sheriff Grady Judd
and no nonsense Florida sheriff known for his tough talking
and showmanship, announced the takedown of a drug trafficking gang
by donning the ringleader's gold chain and bracelet during a
(26:58):
press conference. The polk on the sheriff, wore the jewelry
to drive home what he called the deadly consequences of
so called low level drug dealing. He also held up
seized guns to underline his point that dealers are armed
and dangerous. This is a quote. I got their drip,
I got their body, we got their guns, we got
their dope. That's what Judd said Friday, unveiling the results
(27:20):
of a year long investigation that led to the arrests
of thirty two suspects in Bartow. Judd identified Nathaniel Nate Donald,
a repeat offender, as heading the network and said a
member of his rings sold cocaine to sixty five year
old Irene Anderson on a Saturday night last year. Anderson
then collapsed and died hours later as she was on
her way to church. She was walking out of her
(27:41):
house to church when she collapsed, So she died so
Nate could have this drip, jud said, did you hear
what I said? He's buying this drip from selling drugs
to people on the streets, one of which died. Judd
said law enforcement carried out six wire intercepts and eight
search warrants in Bartow last November, which uncovered fifty thousand
dollars worth of jewelry. But I want you to imagine
(28:04):
this for a minute. People continue to tell you that
drugs are low level and nonviolent. Jud said, there are
anything but low level and nonviolent. Where you see fifty
thousand dollars in drip, where you see the not so
dangerous drug of cannabis, you see guns, you see first
degree murder from overdose. Detectives identified Donald, Brian B. Myrick,
(28:25):
and Isaiah Bubba Donald as key members of the network. Myrik,
who is released from prison in twenty twenty one for
cocaine trafficking, now faces dozens of new counts, including conspiracy
to sell cocaine and trafficking methamphetamine, fentanyl, and MDMA. Troy Walker,
supplied by Myrik, sold the cocaine to Anderson and has
since been indicted for first degree murder in her overdose death.
(28:48):
In total, investigator sees thousands of grams of illegal drugs
with a combined street value of one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. Arrests included suspects already on probation or pre
trial relief pe and several firearms were recovered from convicted felons.
Detectives said this suspects combined criminal histories add up to
five hundred and fifty four felonies and three hundred and
(29:10):
ninety four misdemeanors. Judd said the only place for drug
dealers is in prison because when they are released, they
quickly reoffend, often with deadly consequences. They're a menace to society.
They've got to stay in prison or people die. Jud said,
whoever tells you that narcotics is low level and non violent,
they're crazy. The investigation, dubbed Operation Capital City Crackdown, began
(29:31):
in August of twenty twenty four. It was led by
PCSO's Tactical Drug Unit, Organized Crime Unit, and HIDTA Task Force,
which are with support from the State Attorney's Office, Homeland
Security Investigations, US Border Patrol, FDL, e FBI, the Bartow
Police Department, and other partners.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, So, Sheriff Gardi jub We've talked about him many times.
He is he's a badass. I mean, he's just awesome
finished since the late seventies, I believe, never been raying
against I don't think since he's been in office, which
g y'all know how rare that is for a sheriff.
(30:11):
You're spending your time arresting people. You're pissing a lot
of people off, you know, and he is just the man.
But if you saw him walk into this press conference,
and we'll put a picture of it on the Facebook page,
he's got a fifty like she said, a fifty thousand
dollars chain for those of you that don't know what
drip is, and it is something you think you would
(30:33):
see on run dmcwuck.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And I gotta say this, how fucking stupid are these guys? Okay,
you made fifty thousand dollars and you bought a fucking change.
Oh yeah, Like, I guarantee you they have kids. I
guarantee you. I don't even know these guys. I bet
you there's a bunch of kids that aren't being taken
care of in this situation. And you took fifty grand
to buy a damn necklace. Like you're not even bright,
You're not even smart. Why didn't you go put a
(30:55):
down payment on a house or something like. You know,
and I'm not saying drug sales should be is a
good thing, but you're not even smart. You're running around
with a bunch of wannabes totin guns killing people to
wear a damn necklace. Like how ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All right, Let's go to Oklahoma and an Oklahoma man
is arrested after his eleven year old stepdaughter gave birth
at home. He has now been charged with sexual abuse
of a child. Dustin and Shurie Walker, we're both arrested
last week and initially charged with felony child neglect after
(31:33):
the eleven year old girl gave birth to a full
term baby August sixteenth at home.
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