September 12, 2025 • 43 mins
In this episode of Crime Wire Weekly, hosts Jim Chapman and Kelly Jennings discuss a series of trending crime stories, including the horrific shooting at a Utah College that claimed the life of Charlie Kirk, the killing of a woman riding a train in North Carolina and much more!
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Timestamps
03:00 Charlie Kirk Assassinated in Utah
42:40 Hippo Overturns Boat Leading to Eleven People Missing
53:20 D1 Football Player Caught Stealing 240K Rolex Watch
01:00:20 Louisiana Man Caught Wacking Off Outside of Local Gym
01:06:20 Philly’s Karen Goes Viral 01:10:00 Man Jumps From Cruise Ship to Avoid 16k Debt
01:12:19 LSU Urinator Goes Viral on Tik-Tok
01:15:00 Ukrainian Woman Stabbed to Death on NC Train
01:20:01 Update on the Mushroom Killer
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*This is a preview, links to listen to the full podcast by following "Crime Wire Weekly" are below.
Timestamps
03:00 Charlie Kirk Assassinated in Utah
42:40 Hippo Overturns Boat Leading to Eleven People Missing
53:20 D1 Football Player Caught Stealing 240K Rolex Watch
01:00:20 Louisiana Man Caught Wacking Off Outside of Local Gym
01:06:20 Philly’s Karen Goes Viral 01:10:00 Man Jumps From Cruise Ship to Avoid 16k Debt
01:12:19 LSU Urinator Goes Viral on Tik-Tok
01:15:00 Ukrainian Woman Stabbed to Death on NC Train
01:20:01 Update on the Mushroom Killer
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, folks.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Before we get into the topics for today, kJ and
I are recording Crime Wire Weekly on this Thursday, September eleventh.
Our thoughts and prayers are always with the victims of
nine to eleven, nearly three thousand victims, and we dedicate
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this episode to their memory.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome back, folks. We got a jammed packed show for
you today. We're going to go through the topics quickly.
In Utah, the founder of Turning Point USA and ultra
popular conservative media personality Charlie Kirk is assassinated while speaking
on a college campus. In North Carolina, a Ukrainian woman
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is stabbed to death in an unprovoked attack while riding
a train. In North Dakota, a Division one football player
is kicked off the team after stealing nearly four thousand
dollars in valuables off of boat. In Pennsylvania, the search
is on going to discover the identity of the Phillies Karen.
(01:08):
In Louisiana, a serial urinator has become a viral sensation
on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We're going to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
In Alabama, a retired college professor is killed while walking
her dog in a park, and a hungry hippo is
causing havoc overseas as eleven people are missing. A man
jumps off a Royal Caribbean cruise line. And notice I
said Caribbean and not Caribbean to avoid paying a sixteen
(01:39):
thousand dollars gambling debt to a ship. We got all this,
plus a bunch more today on Crime Wire Weekly. I'm
Jim Chapman.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And I'm Kelly Jennings.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Kelly Jennings, where are we going tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We are going to a Laney Wilson concert.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Jim the Lane Wilson, the entertainer of the year, Lanie Wilson.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
You surprise me with if people would like to know.
He surprised me with some tickets. And so Jim and
his lovely wife Wendy, and me and my stud muffin
of a husband, Blake Jay, are going country.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
We're going country. If we were country and country wasn't cool,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I do believe.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But yes, we're gonna go see Lady Wilson live and
in person. And who knows, maybe well we'll get her
to listen to some podcasts there.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You never, Hey, I went backstage with bart groups, is
what I almost justs.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
He's the cousin of Garth Brooks.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You may have heard of you may have heard.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
No, really, I went backstage Garth Brooks. I raised my
hand at a concert. He brought me backstage.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I remember that. I remember that.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, and you made fun of me because I cried.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Maybe we should post if I could find that clip.
It's great. I'm gonna find it. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Garth bird'schare with miss Jennings and I'm here to say
good luck on your nine one one certifications.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Guess what nine one one? What's the address in or emergency?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
This is Garth Brooks and I'm calling that unrum, all right,
So we're gonna get on sadly to some sad, serious
stuff that is, of course breaking news that's just occurred yesterday.
And I don't have any script for this one, really
just facts. So conservative debater, founder of media giant Turning
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Point USA and author Charlie Kirk, who was thirty one,
was savagely assassinated at twelve twenty pm while speaking and
doing what he does, inviting people who oppose his views
to have dialogue in debate with them. This was on
the campus of Utah Valley University. This is in aorum, Utah,
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and Kirk was about twenty minutes into his speech when
a single shot rang out. All though reports initially stated
there was no word on his condition, then it came
out and it's said he was in critical condition.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I think anyone who saw that video.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And particularly the horrific angle that some people saw, it
was pretty clear to me that Kirk.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Died almost instantly.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And for those that do not know yet, Kirk's wife
and two children were in attendance at this event and
they witnessed the entire thing, which is just horrific to
even think about now. Initially, a suspect almost immediately was handcuffed.
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This was an elderly man. He was putting handcuffs on
the scene, but after reviewing security footage, he was released.
First off, the shooter had on all black this guy
did not, and they knew that from the roof footage. Second,
they arrested this guy in the same area as Kirk
was speaking, essentially, and when this shooter they got a
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visual from cameras that were around the university. When they
saw where he was perched, if you will, they realized
that this shot was taken from a rooftop two hundred
yards away. Not a tough shot with a rifle necessarily,
but you have to consider this. The shooter was elevated,
Charlie was positioned kind of in a bowl around three
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thousand people, mind you, and he was also under a tent.
One shot placed perfectly for that kill shot. Just a
few hours later, FBI director Cash Bettel comes out with
a statement. Now this was after the first guy was released.
In Cash proclaims and I quote the subject whose shot,
(05:48):
Charlie Kirk is in custody. Well, guess what, they question
that guy and he gets released. And I have a
problem with that that we'll get into in a minute.
Police do mention they have the video of the shooter,
but it was grainy and they said, you know how
these videos can be, etc. Well, eight hours later, when
(06:11):
I was writing this story for today to go over
with you, there was no suspect. Still no suspect in
custody the next day, and even worse, no description from police,
no video release. Was this guy white or black? Was
he short or tall? Was it a guy or a girl?
We have no information yet this guy is still on
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the lease. That infuriates me. There's conflicting statements from the
FBI and police. You have the FBI saying we have
a guy in custody, then you have the police saying, no,
we don't.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So that's where we're at now.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Before I unleash kJ, I want to read everyone something
that is from a state rep for the state of Virginia.
His name is Nick Freetas, and he wrote this on Facebook.
I am told that as a state representative, this is
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the moment where I'm supposed to express my heartfelt condolences
and then stand in solidarity with those who are on
the other side of the aisle as we condemn political
violence and stay unified as one people. But we aren't
one people, are we. The truth is we haven't been
for some time now, and there's really no point in
pretending anymore if there ever was. We are two very
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different peoples. We may occupy the same piece of geography,
but that is where the simularities seem to abruptly end.
I convinced myself for a long time whenever the left
called me a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a fascist,
a threat to democracy for even the most innocent of disagreements,
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that it was simply hyperbolic rhetoric. Dune for effect, and
now the effect is a widow and two orphan children
because the Left couldn't or the thought of a peaceful
man debating them in winning. I don't think they realize
it yet, but murdering Charlie is going to be remembered
as the day where we finally woke up to what
the fight really is. It's not a civil dispute among
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fellow countrymen. It's a war between diametrically opposed worldviews which
cannot peacefully coexist with one another. One side will win
and one side will lose. Charlie tried to win the
fight through argumentation, through discussion, through peaceful resolution of differences,
and the other side murdered him. Not because he was
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extreme or inciting violence or any other hyperbolic slur they
hurled at him. They murdered him because he was effective,
because he was unafraid, because he inspired others and made
them feel like they had a voice, that they.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Were not alone.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And he did it at the very institutions which have
foremented so much hatred toward conservatives. I don't want to
stand in solidarity with the other side.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Of the isle. I want to defeat you.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I want to defeat the godless ideology to kill babies
in the wound, sterilize confused children, turn our cities into
cesspoles of lawlessness, and the people that murdered Charlie Kirk.
Social media is a flame right now with the leftist
celebration of Charlie's death. I wonder if any among them
understand what has just happened. They all have done. All
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they have done is awoken a sleeping giant.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I think they give up such introspection and self awareness
long ago. I don't exactly know what will happen next.
I just know it won't be the same thing that
has happened in the past. There will be thoughts and prayers.
Charlie would have wanted prayers not for himself, but for
those left behind and for the country he loved. But
there will be a reckoning. My Christian faith requires me
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to love my enemies and pray for those who curse me.
It does not require me to stand idly by in
the midst of savagery in barbarianism.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Quite the opposite.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So every time I feel tired, every time I feel
discouraged or overwhelmed, I'm gonna watch the video of good
Man being murdered in Utah. I will force myself to
watch it, and then I will return to work of
destroying evil ideology responsible for that and so much more.
Rest with God, Charlie, your fight is over, ours is
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just beginning. And that was from Nick free Tes of
the State of Virginia. He's a state rep. So, Kelly Jennings,
you've been sitting here quietly taking all this in, and
I guess the first question here is why did this happen?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, it happened because.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
It's the age old thing of becoming what I would
say is an atavist.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And add this to.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Someone who when they can't win the intellectual fight, they
turn into a savage. It's the reason why husbands that
our bad husbands beat their wives. It's the reason that
drug dealers shoot people over turf. It's the same reason
that a shooter walked into a church and shot children.
It's because you cannot fight fanaticism with intellect. They only
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know violence, They only know I don't know if this
is coming across the way, I mean it too. But
people who turn to this level of action because they
think that's the only way to be heard. All they've
done is deafen everyone else's ears to what I guess
point they're trying.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
To make.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Debate is the most gentlemen, gentlemanly thing I can think
that we have in this world, to sit down, to
have a discussion, to disagree, and then to agree to disagree.
It's it's it's the way of the world.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It's the reason that.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's it. It's everything that a human should be.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It's it's humanity where you can sit down and you
can hash it out, and where you we have to
come to some We all have something about us that
can be.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Looked at as good.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
And when we when we lose sight of that, when
we put somebody in a box and we decide that
this facet of their life, this aspect of their life,
and what I mean right now is just politics. When
your politics inspire I don't even if that's the word,
but push someone or make someone feel like you need
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to die. We have lost sight of everything that this
world is about.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
We've we've lost it.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
We've and and I don't even know if I could
if I should say we, because I haven't lost it.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I have some of the most wonderful, creative, uh peaceful
people I know are the most liberal, wild you know,
wildflower type people that just I love them for who
they are.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
That we're different. We're so freaking different, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And I have friends that have been in prison and
they're released now, and we disagree on a lot, but
I tell you what they need me, I'm there because
it's it. It's their heart. You know, you love someone's heart.
And I'm I'm not an emotional person. I don't get
overly emotional. But when I was sitting down to my
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husband and I were talking last night, I'm gonna tell
you this that my husband got emotional. And a lot
of men, you know, a lot of men that I
look up to and I respect, and I think a
lot of I watched them openly weep on TV yesterday
and on TikTok, and that that alone brought the gravity
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of what this is to the forefront of my mind.
And and there's nothing I can say that hasn't been said.
But there's people that live into this that couldn't stand him. Okay,
what I'm saying, they couldn't stand him. However, if you
wanted that man to die, if you wanted to celebrate
his death. You are you are wrong, You are dead wrong,
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and I cannot align with you in anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, I couldn't agree for more than with what you
just said. Look, I didn't agree with every single thing
Charlie Kirk said. I mean, it's something that sticks out
to me.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
He you know, old Charlie was as anti college.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I mean, he frigging hated college, you know, unless you
were going to be a heart surgeon or something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
He saw no purpose for it. I didn't agree with that.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I feel like there are a lot of problems with colleges,
but I feel like education is always a good thing,
and if you can swing it, I feel like you
should should do that. There's some people, of course, not
made for college, and that doesn't mean there's going to
be a failure. And that was kind of his message,
and I agree with that part. But he was almost
you know, any college. But I you know, hey, that
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was his opinion. And I think the problem with this
entire situation is we live in America, and to me,
when I think of America, the first thing I think of,
even before the Second Amendment, is the First Amendment and
the right to free speech and everybody has the right
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to say their opinion right, wrong or otherwise. I don't
have to agree with everything you say to like you. Hell,
I know some Democrats that I like.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They're fun to hang out with, and we will have
our little debates and we'll both laugh about it. And
that you know you're wrong and I'm right is our
attitude towards each other. But we never come to blows,
or nor will we think to come to blows. When
you hate someone's so much, your heart is so dark
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that you will kill them because you just don't agree
with what they got to say.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
The problem is with you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's a heart problem. Listen.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I remember I went to LSU, and I can remember
being a your young kid right when you start out
of college. I was seventeen my freshman year of college,
and I walked through free speech Alley, which is.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
What they called it.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
They probably still do, but anyway, and I remember being harassed,
flat out harassed by people yelling with big signs and
big you know, big to dos and loud speakers and screaming.
And I remember and I'm loud, okay me personally, I'm
a loud person. I know that I take up a
lot of space. And I don't necessarily mean to, but
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it's just a personality thing. But I never want to
impose on somebody to the point that I make them
uncomfortable walking around a college campus. That was something that
I appreciated about Charlie's approach was that he just sat
at a table with a microphone.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
He didn't get in your face, he didn't yell, he
didn't put you know.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
And I specifically remember this instance. And if you're my age,
I'm forty. How old am I forty forty one? Forty
forty forty? I'm forty. I remember these people U super
religious sect of some type. But anyway, I remember walking
out of the student union and they had these huge
signs with pictures of aborted babies on it, and they
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were screaming that we were all going to hell and this,
that and the other. And I remember thinking, what did
I do to you other than just walk out of
this building? You know, why do you think that you need.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
To yell at me? And I wanted to have a
conversation almost of like.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
And so I looked down and there were these children
with them, and these children were no older than seven eight.
They had some toddlers too, and those children were holding
the signs and I walked up to the children and
I was one of the kids and I knelt down.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I said, hey, buddy, what you got on your sign?
And he was like a picture, you know?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
And he was like, you know, bad uh Sin, You're
going to hell? And I said wow. I said can
you tell me more about it? And he just kind
of looked at me and I said that's all you know.
I said, are you repeating? And he's like, yep, we
got it. We have to we're repeating it, you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And I said okay, and I said, well, I tell
you what. I'm not gonna yell at you. I'm going
to tell you that you're loved. And he just looked
at me and I said, so you have a great day.
And I got up and I walked off.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And it was almost my way of like saying, I'm
you don't have to I wanted. I felt so like
that kid was just getting it so wrong because he
didn't know any better because his parents were telling you
have to go yell and holler at people to get
your point across, and you absolutely don't have to yell
and scream and and so when you climb a ladder
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and you lay down prone on the top of a building,
and you've done reconnaissance, and you've gone with the mission
of ending the life of someone that you disagree with,
Let's strip all of the politics away. Seriously, I want
to strip it down to just the man, flesh and bone.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
You ended someone's.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Life who had two babies at home, who has a
wife that was knew she was so cherished by this man.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And no one will love her ever the way he
loved her.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And no one will ever swoop those babies up and
love them the way their daddy loved them. And when
my husband got emotional, like I mentioned a minute ago yesterday,
his emotions were because his father died when he was little.
You know, his mother is gone. He said, my brother
is dead. My husband's whole family is dead. They died
all tragically, actually, And he said in tears rolled out
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of his eyes, and he said, you know, you don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
He said, you just don't get it. And I said
I know, and he said, no, don't say I know.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
He said, those children have just lost their leader of
their household. They don't have someone to teach to be
the daddy to tell.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Him how a man treats a woman. They were stripping.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I'm sorry, but they were apologize, they were robbed, they
were robbed and his people and I apologize, but as
a people, you know, honor thy mother and thy father.
And if you can't look at a family unit and say,
maybe that's not what I agree to, but that's their.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Family and you can't just love them that way.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, I don't want to be here in a world
where that's how we're how we're treating one another.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, and they wun'tessed it. They saw it, you know
how horrific. I can't imagine. I can't imagine seeing that anybody.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I love.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
It's visceral if you watch it, and I'm glad I
watched it because it's the reality of what just happened.
It's so animal, it's so horrific. I mean, he just
his arms atrophy. They pull up and he's over and
like his blood is just spilled. It's unlike anything that
we should see other than on a on a war
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on a war site or something. It's it's not anything
anyone should ever see.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's it's simply awful. And you know, obviously our our
hearts and prayers go out to everybody who knew and
loved Charlie, and.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
And speaking of that, and you got emotional.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And look there Meghan Kelly last night, Uh, she went live,
you know, breaking news on.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Her show, and she was very close to Charlie Kark.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
As a matter of fact, they were they had some
speaking engagements, uh set up for the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And when she broke.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
This news of the shooting, she did nobody knew if
he was dead or not yet. Although we knew, we
didn't know right there was no confirmation of that. And
so that came through as she's recording, as she's live
on YouTube. Megan Kelly is one tough lady and Meghan
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Allie burke completely down. So before we go any further,
I want y'all to hear what I just mentioned with
Meggan Kelly. So I'm gonna play the clip for you
of her the second she found out her friend Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Had been assassinated. Here's that clip.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Charlie's been shot. He's been shot. It appeared in the neck.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
There is video of the event of the shooting that
took place from far away. We're gonna show you that
Utah Valley University. This is graphic. It's not as graphic
as some of the films that is being represented as
out there right now and having been taken more close up.
So we're gonna look at just this one, which is
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from a distance. I've texted Charlie myself. I don't know
how he is. I don't know if he's okay. I
don't know what the state of his injuries are. But
he has been shot, as confirmed by the President of
the United States, the FBI also confirming, and as we
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await further updates on his condition, all we can do
is pray. We can pray, pray, pray God that he
survived this, Pray for his family, Pray for his children's
two young children, and ask ourselves what our country is
coming to.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
How does this happen?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
How does somebody who's only job is to comment on
political matters wind up a target for an assassin. This
is the United States of America. We have commentators, we
have provocative commentators. This is what we've been doing since
the dawn of time. There are news outlets reporting the
worst right now, Glenn, I don't know what I'm waiting
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for Before I report it, you know, I trust just
the news. I trust dest it. What are we waiting for,
like the AP to say it. We don't trust that
more than we trust these they're reporting that Charlie has died,
that he's dead at the age of thirty one.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Which she would have to be if that video was real.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
There's no way he survived that. Only what it is,
it had to have happened quickly, right right.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
If you see the video, you do not see any suffering. No,
he appears her be spared the horrific moments after that.
The girl on the Charlotte train wasn't when she knew
she was dying, or she knew something terrible had happened.
As clear Charlie went down. He went down quickly. Oh
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good god. Yeah, he's dead.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It's official.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
It's from the COO of Turning Point who just tweeted out,
Dear Turning Point USA family, it's with a heavy heart
that we the Turning Point USA leadership team write to
notify you that. Earlier this afternoon, Charlie went to his
ejournal reward with Jesus Christ in Heaven. We're still gathering
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more information and we'll come to you soon with updates. However,
in the meantime, Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action
will be closed for business until Monday.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
The fifteenth, likely longer.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
If you're in the field are traveling, please cancel everything
and return home immediately. All internal, external meetings, etc. Are canceled.
Please pray sincerely, Justin and then they offer grieving services
counsel services for their team. I am so sorry to
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be bringing you this neops.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'm sorry for what it means for our country, for Charlie,
poor dear Charlie, this family.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Sorry for what it's going to mean for the debates
that we have yet to have.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
That he would have won, he would have put everyone
to shame on as.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
He had been. And I'm angry, really fucking.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Angry about how this happened, why this happened, and why
we don't have a person in custody.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
This guy was beloved.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
But you know what infuriated me more than anything I
was thinking about this last night was the fact that
Charlie for the Left for Democrats, staunch Democrats, was a
good guy. He should have been, because he was willing
to engage in dialogue with him. Look, let me tell
you something. He's a better man than me, because when
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you get on my Facebook and you, you know, want
to start some bullshit because of an opinion I have,
I'm not engaging with you.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I got no time.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I don't have time for that. That's my attitude towards it.
I don't have time to debate you. I'm not looking
for you to change my mind, and I'm not going
to try to change yours. You're welcome to think what
you want to think, but I'm not getting into this
because nobody, you know, who are you to go on
my page on something I posted and make a negative
(27:39):
comment when you weren't invited to. In my opinion, he
actually took the time to say, hey, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. That was his whole His.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Whole thing was when people stopped talking.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, so they killed the good guy marriage. It's what
they did.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Marriages and when communication stops, war start, when communication stops education,
when we stop actually communicating with kids and we're just
throwing test sett them and all of that learning stops.
And I just can't even people that hated him, like
(28:26):
we put too much stock and celebrities. Okay, I believe
that wholeheartedly. Everyone's an influencer. Everyone has an opinion. Hell,
I have a mic in front of me, and I'm
a nobody, okay, But when we stop looking at both
sides of an argument, when you get blinders and you
only can look at one site. You've even said it
to me before, ooh, you've got those rose colored glasses on,
(28:47):
like when it comes.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
To law enforcement. You're right, But when you check me on.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
That, it does make me go within and say, you know,
maybe maybe I do need to take a step back,
Maybe I do need.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
To reevaluate the angle I looked at this.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
It's caused it cause his intern you know, you go
with it inside and you start kind of thinking, well,
maybe I do need to look at this from a
different direction.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
And he was willing to engage.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
And that's whether you agreed with his opinions. And as
I've said before, he said things I didn't necessarily agree with.
Said a lot I did. I probably say I was
about eighty five percent in agreements with what Charlie, but
I respected the hell out of the fact that not
only would he was he willing to open up a
dialogue and have a conversation respectfully, mind you, but he
(29:33):
also knew the resk. You know how many death threats
Charlie Kirk has.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Had, he brought it up thousands. Let me say this,
let me say this.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yes, Cash Battel I have you know I'm a supporter
of Cash Battel I, as a matter of fact, have
read his book. The problem I have with this is
cash for Cash to come out as the director of
the FBI, and I quoted him the subject who shot
(30:02):
Charlie Kirk is in custody. You can't do that. You
cannot do that. Why Why is that a problem?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Do I think? First of all, do I think he
did it in some sort of malice? No? I think
he truly believed they had the suspect of custody, was it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Was his intel rome that he was told to him?
Probably obviously so, because that guy was released. However, you
can't make that mistake as the FBI director. You've got
to make damn sure and be one hundred percent sure.
Why is it important? Because everybody quits looking at that point.
Now we're into the next day. This guy is still
(30:40):
on the loose. But when THEI director comes out and
says the dude's been caught. Everybody lets their groward down.
Nobody's looking and saying is there anybody in the area.
I don't recognize.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
That's what's crazy, And look, you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I might be putting on my ten foil hat right now,
but I feel like that old man was a diversion.
I feel like that was a diversion so that the
real shooter could get away. Why would he all of
a sudden make that scene? Now was obvious it wasn't
him because he was right on top of Charlie, this
old man that went down. So either he's a complete
and total looney tune, which hey, I can give him
that too, or because the security there wasn't security like
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for the president or something.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Charlie ka police officers and for bodygarw and whoop do
you do?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
The bodyguards are standing behind Charlie Kirk looking vote up
with their tattoos, which.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Hey, shout out, don't like a tattooed man, But what
are you doing.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
From behind that you're going to do other than what
they did jump on his dead body?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
So what my point here.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Is great for the show of security, but this was
obviously not well vetted as far as the real threats
against his life.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And that's my personal opinion and I stand by it.
Ten toes down.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Because those buildings his Charlie Kirk, his security advisors or
people in his team didn't like look at that.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well, here's the thing, Kaja, and this is I want
everybody to keep this in their forefront of their mind.
Charlie Kirk was a media guy. He was not the president.
He was not he was not a member of Congress.
He is not entitled to Secret Service protection, all those
sort of things.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And so how many.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Speeches has Charlie Kirk given, probably hundreds of thousands. Never
has this happened, Never has he been shot at. Now,
from a bodyguard perspective, I don't care what anybody says.
At some point, you're gonna get complacent. You've been to
thousands of these and never even the slightest chance of
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someone shooting at you.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
They were there for the stupid kid that jumps the
barrier punch that's right now.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
These were legit professionals. These were former Navy seals, the.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Same people that guard Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Look, Joe Rogan runs around with four Navy seals that
could break into the Pentagon. They are the best of
the best, and he pays them. I'm sure very well
Charlie Kirk the same way. But you killed it when
you said they're there to stop somebody from beating Charlie
Kirk's ass or pulling out a gun close range type
of thing. If somebody wants to kill Charlie Kirk or
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the president or your milkman, they can do it.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I don't care how much security you have.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
If they can get up on a perch and no
one see them, they can do it. And there's nothing
that's going to stop that unless you're behind You know
what's sad about this whole thing is now we're going
to get in a situation where when these people go
to college, campuses are going to have to be surrounded
by glass like Trump had to do, which when I
saw that for the first time, I couldn't believe I'm
(33:41):
seeing this in the United States of America that our
president had to speak behind bulletproof glass.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Well, and we say, Charlie and I know we're going
along on this business.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
We're going to go till we say you're right.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Charlie Kirk is not the president or something like that.
But he absolutely was an influential figure that got massive
and I'm not minimized, oh I know that, I know that,
but he got mass attention. He had a lot of
eyes on him, and he started quite arguably the most
the largest movement in modern day history in terms of
conservative politics. It is the forefront of our show to date,
(34:19):
it's the forefront of the media today, and it is
September eleventh. It's a day of supposed to be and
it is but of remembrance. And this day is so
heavy for me personally because September eleventh rocked my world
when I was a senior in high school. September eleventh
is the date that I found my mother in law dead.
And then September eleventh is now the day that I'm
having to talk about Charlie Kirk being shot.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And I've had enough. I've had enough.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
And this is where the problem is gonna start, you
hear me. And it's not when someone say, well, if
we take away guns, okay, great, then they're gonna mow
someone down with the car.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
And then what we take away car, then they're gonna
stab you with the knife, okay.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
And the whole reason that we have the gun rights
we have in this cunt is so that we the
people maintain the power of over the government. And the
day that you stop realizing that is the day that
you are not a free thinker. You're not a freethinker
in my opinion, because I'm looking at history, and I'm
(35:17):
bright enough to know history repeats its fucking self.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Open a book, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Quit opening TikTok and listen to some dumbass twenty year
old influencer who doesn't know anything and is trying to
sell lipbalm to.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
You while talking politics. Maybe look at some facts.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
And I get impassionate about this, not because of the
political side that we're on, but because I have a
right as a citizen of the United States of America,
to life, to liberty, and to the pursuit of my happiness.
And when I wake up and I see that someone
has had their life taken away, their liberty stripped from them,
(35:54):
and now they no longer have that chance at a
pursuit of happiness with their family, we have some fucked
up people in this world. And I do not want
to hear the next three things that I'm about to say.
And if you're not with me, too, bad number one.
I don't want to hear we're gonna be better for
this the fuck we are. I'm tired of hearing that
we're gonna, we're gonna recover and prayers for his family
(36:17):
and then we move on to the next thing.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
No, we're not. I'm done.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I have been taught to turn the other cheek my
entire life. I've been I've been taught don't engage with crazy,
don't engage with stupidity.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Well you know what, Jim, It's time.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
It's time to fuck around and let's let some people
fucking find out. And I mean it with everything in
my soul. I am tired of being complacent against crazy.
I will not live in a world where people are
sniping people because they disagree with them. This is the
United States of America and to the Republic for which
(36:57):
it stands, one nation under God. I quit in with
liberty and justice for all, and I mean it like
when I say the Pledge to the United States.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I mean that liberty and justice for all, not for
just the people.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I agree with Charlie Kirk's irreplacement in a lot of ways.
There's there will, in my opinion, never be another Charlie Kirk,
someone that could relate to young.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
People the way that he could.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I shouldn't relate to young eighteen nineteen twenty year olds
because number one, I'm nowhere near close to that age.
But number two, it's a different ward from them. Charlie could.
Charlie at eighteen years old found a turning point USA
at eighteen eighteen. When I was eighteen, you know what
I was doing, Chasing.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Women, pretending to be pretending to be in the Red Cross.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Pretending to be the Red Cross, all those things. I
wasn't building no freaking company.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
But the thing that made him amazing outside of just
his sheared genius and someone that was so quick with
a response and an educated response, it was just some
UNBELIEFDB like he brought receipts. Yeah, he brought receipts with
everything he said. Uh, there will never be another the world.
And I mean Democrats, Republicans, independence.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I don't care what you are.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
All of us lost that, and that sucks because one
person is just crazy and out of their minds evil.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
They're not crazy, they're evil.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Evil and crazy.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Look, I posted this yesterday morning, and maybe we can
wrap up with this, but I posted this yesterday morning
before any of this occurred, and it was how I
was feeling in the moment, and now it just seems
even more poignant. I said, being morally clean won't protect
you from the wolves. Being strategic, strategically useful will. In
the real world, you aren't judged by your heart. You're
(38:49):
judged by your leverage. You're either an asset or a liability.
Stop asking to be liked. Become too valuable to ignore,
And I think that's what happened with Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
He became too valuable.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, sometimes you become so powerful with your words and
valuable and powerful in his in when speaking about Charlie
Kirk is really interchangeable because when you have the power
to change people's minds by using common synsical arguments, Uh,
(39:26):
the there is no nobody out there that doesn't credit
Charlie Kirk for a lot of President Trump winning that election,
because the young people came out and they voted Trump
for the most part, and a lot of people believe
it's because Charlie worked tiresly on campuses to go and
say why are you not voting for Trump?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And I'm going to tell you why I am voting
for Trump, and he changed some minds and people don't
like that. People don't like that kind of influence. And
when he became so powerful that he was making sense,
you know, some people's answer to that is to get
rid of him. Eventually they're going to find out who
did this. There's too much There is too much heat,
(40:09):
too much heat on this individual, whoever that is. And
we'll get a lot more information on that front. But
let me say this one final thing and then we'll
get off this subject.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
And thanks for hanging in there with us so far.
People who are listening to.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Oh, they love it. They love it.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
They don't want to get off the subject now. I
mean they love hearing what we have to say. We
don't have to apologize for saying our peace on this show.
But I'll say this, Charlie Kirk knew the risk. He
knew the risk death threats constantly. Let me tell you something.
Kelly talks about true crime. I talk about true crime
(40:48):
with Bloody and Gola and exposed. I kind of get
into that. I've had my share of threats. They are
not fun. Hell, I had a serial killer after me. Literally,
I got.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
A death threat in prison within me.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, So, I mean, none of them are fun. I
don't care how tough a man or how tough a
lady you are. They're scary. And in a lot of cases,
it's not for yourself, it's for your family. And so
I'm sure it ran across Charlie's mind many times.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
You know, me doing.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
This not only puts me at risk, it puts my
family at risk. But he believed in his heart that
the message was more important than his life, and sadly,
you know, the worst nightmare came true for him. I'm sure.
And all I can do now is number one, pray
(41:41):
that this person gets caught swiftly. Pray that somewhere in
this something good comes. I gotta believe something good will
come out of this, because that's what God says. And
pray for his family and his wife, and they've got
a tough time ahead, and I just pray that somewhere
(42:02):
in here they'll be able to find something, uh, to
find happiness.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
And I don't want my when I say I'm praying,
I don't want that to come across as the casual.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Oh, I'll say a prayer and move on. No, listen
to me.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
I'm speaking to my God on your behalf, and I'm
asking that he covers your wife and your kids and
your mom. You know. Sorry, I don't know what the
deal is. I just this is attack on an attack
on all of us. Uh. It shows the fragility of
life and and you should never have to be quiet, right,
(42:41):
all right, let's move on to I believe this is
the Boo Yoh Ivory Coast.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Have you ever heard of Boo Yoh?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I have not, and I saw that article and I
so while you're going through it, I'll check out where.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Find a map, jum, so we know where we are,
because I don't even know where this is right now?
All right, but children and a baby are among the
eleven who remained missing after a boat capsized a hippo
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
Before we get into the topics for today, kJ and
I are recording Crime Wire Weekly on this Thursday, September eleventh.
Our thoughts and prayers are always with the victims of
nine to eleven, nearly three thousand victims, and we dedicate
(00:21):
this episode to their memory.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome back, folks. We got a jammed packed show for
you today. We're going to go through the topics quickly.
In Utah, the founder of Turning Point USA and ultra
popular conservative media personality Charlie Kirk is assassinated while speaking
on a college campus. In North Carolina, a Ukrainian woman
(00:47):
is stabbed to death in an unprovoked attack while riding
a train. In North Dakota, a Division one football player
is kicked off the team after stealing nearly four thousand
dollars in valuables off of boat. In Pennsylvania, the search
is on going to discover the identity of the Phillies Karen.
(01:08):
In Louisiana, a serial urinator has become a viral sensation
on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We're going to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
In Alabama, a retired college professor is killed while walking
her dog in a park, and a hungry hippo is
causing havoc overseas as eleven people are missing. A man
jumps off a Royal Caribbean cruise line. And notice I
said Caribbean and not Caribbean to avoid paying a sixteen
(01:39):
thousand dollars gambling debt to a ship. We got all this,
plus a bunch more today on Crime Wire Weekly. I'm
Jim Chapman.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And I'm Kelly Jennings.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Kelly Jennings, where are we going tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We are going to a Laney Wilson concert.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Jim the Lane Wilson, the entertainer of the year, Lanie Wilson.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
You surprise me with if people would like to know.
He surprised me with some tickets. And so Jim and
his lovely wife Wendy, and me and my stud muffin
of a husband, Blake Jay, are going country.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
We're going country. If we were country and country wasn't cool,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I do believe.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But yes, we're gonna go see Lady Wilson live and
in person. And who knows, maybe well we'll get her
to listen to some podcasts there.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You never, Hey, I went backstage with bart groups, is
what I almost justs.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
He's the cousin of Garth Brooks.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You may have heard of you may have heard.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
No, really, I went backstage Garth Brooks. I raised my
hand at a concert. He brought me backstage.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I remember that. I remember that.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, and you made fun of me because I cried.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Maybe we should post if I could find that clip.
It's great. I'm gonna find it. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Garth bird'schare with miss Jennings and I'm here to say
good luck on your nine one one certifications.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Guess what nine one one? What's the address in or emergency?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
This is Garth Brooks and I'm calling that unrum, all right,
So we're gonna get on sadly to some sad, serious
stuff that is, of course breaking news that's just occurred yesterday.
And I don't have any script for this one, really
just facts. So conservative debater, founder of media giant Turning
(03:23):
Point USA and author Charlie Kirk, who was thirty one,
was savagely assassinated at twelve twenty pm while speaking and
doing what he does, inviting people who oppose his views
to have dialogue in debate with them. This was on
the campus of Utah Valley University. This is in aorum, Utah,
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and Kirk was about twenty minutes into his speech when
a single shot rang out. All though reports initially stated
there was no word on his condition, then it came
out and it's said he was in critical condition.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I think anyone who saw that video.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And particularly the horrific angle that some people saw, it
was pretty clear to me that Kirk.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Died almost instantly.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And for those that do not know yet, Kirk's wife
and two children were in attendance at this event and
they witnessed the entire thing, which is just horrific to
even think about now. Initially, a suspect almost immediately was handcuffed.
(04:36):
This was an elderly man. He was putting handcuffs on
the scene, but after reviewing security footage, he was released.
First off, the shooter had on all black this guy
did not, and they knew that from the roof footage. Second,
they arrested this guy in the same area as Kirk
was speaking, essentially, and when this shooter they got a
(05:01):
visual from cameras that were around the university. When they
saw where he was perched, if you will, they realized
that this shot was taken from a rooftop two hundred
yards away. Not a tough shot with a rifle necessarily,
but you have to consider this. The shooter was elevated,
Charlie was positioned kind of in a bowl around three
(05:25):
thousand people, mind you, and he was also under a tent.
One shot placed perfectly for that kill shot. Just a
few hours later, FBI director Cash Bettel comes out with
a statement. Now this was after the first guy was released.
In Cash proclaims and I quote the subject whose shot,
(05:48):
Charlie Kirk is in custody. Well, guess what, they question
that guy and he gets released. And I have a
problem with that that we'll get into in a minute.
Police do mention they have the video of the shooter,
but it was grainy and they said, you know how
these videos can be, etc. Well, eight hours later, when
(06:11):
I was writing this story for today to go over
with you, there was no suspect. Still no suspect in
custody the next day, and even worse, no description from police,
no video release. Was this guy white or black? Was
he short or tall? Was it a guy or a girl?
We have no information yet this guy is still on
(06:32):
the lease. That infuriates me. There's conflicting statements from the
FBI and police. You have the FBI saying we have
a guy in custody, then you have the police saying, no,
we don't.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So that's where we're at now.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Before I unleash kJ, I want to read everyone something
that is from a state rep for the state of Virginia.
His name is Nick Freetas, and he wrote this on Facebook.
I am told that as a state representative, this is
(07:06):
the moment where I'm supposed to express my heartfelt condolences
and then stand in solidarity with those who are on
the other side of the aisle as we condemn political
violence and stay unified as one people. But we aren't
one people, are we. The truth is we haven't been
for some time now, and there's really no point in
pretending anymore if there ever was. We are two very
(07:30):
different peoples. We may occupy the same piece of geography,
but that is where the simularities seem to abruptly end.
I convinced myself for a long time whenever the left
called me a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a fascist,
a threat to democracy for even the most innocent of disagreements,
(07:50):
that it was simply hyperbolic rhetoric. Dune for effect, and
now the effect is a widow and two orphan children
because the Left couldn't or the thought of a peaceful
man debating them in winning. I don't think they realize
it yet, but murdering Charlie is going to be remembered
as the day where we finally woke up to what
the fight really is. It's not a civil dispute among
(08:14):
fellow countrymen. It's a war between diametrically opposed worldviews which
cannot peacefully coexist with one another. One side will win
and one side will lose. Charlie tried to win the
fight through argumentation, through discussion, through peaceful resolution of differences,
and the other side murdered him. Not because he was
(08:37):
extreme or inciting violence or any other hyperbolic slur they
hurled at him. They murdered him because he was effective,
because he was unafraid, because he inspired others and made
them feel like they had a voice, that they.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Were not alone.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And he did it at the very institutions which have
foremented so much hatred toward conservatives. I don't want to
stand in solidarity with the other side.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Of the isle. I want to defeat you.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I want to defeat the godless ideology to kill babies
in the wound, sterilize confused children, turn our cities into
cesspoles of lawlessness, and the people that murdered Charlie Kirk.
Social media is a flame right now with the leftist
celebration of Charlie's death. I wonder if any among them
understand what has just happened. They all have done. All
(09:27):
they have done is awoken a sleeping giant.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I think they give up such introspection and self awareness
long ago. I don't exactly know what will happen next.
I just know it won't be the same thing that
has happened in the past. There will be thoughts and prayers.
Charlie would have wanted prayers not for himself, but for
those left behind and for the country he loved. But
there will be a reckoning. My Christian faith requires me
(09:55):
to love my enemies and pray for those who curse me.
It does not require me to stand idly by in
the midst of savagery in barbarianism.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Quite the opposite.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So every time I feel tired, every time I feel
discouraged or overwhelmed, I'm gonna watch the video of good
Man being murdered in Utah. I will force myself to
watch it, and then I will return to work of
destroying evil ideology responsible for that and so much more.
Rest with God, Charlie, your fight is over, ours is
(10:28):
just beginning. And that was from Nick free Tes of
the State of Virginia. He's a state rep. So, Kelly Jennings,
you've been sitting here quietly taking all this in, and
I guess the first question here is why did this happen?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, it happened because.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
It's the age old thing of becoming what I would
say is an atavist.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And add this to.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Someone who when they can't win the intellectual fight, they
turn into a savage. It's the reason why husbands that
our bad husbands beat their wives. It's the reason that
drug dealers shoot people over turf. It's the same reason
that a shooter walked into a church and shot children.
It's because you cannot fight fanaticism with intellect. They only
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know violence, They only know I don't know if this
is coming across the way, I mean it too. But
people who turn to this level of action because they
think that's the only way to be heard. All they've
done is deafen everyone else's ears to what I guess
point they're trying.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
To make.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Debate is the most gentlemen, gentlemanly thing I can think
that we have in this world, to sit down, to
have a discussion, to disagree, and then to agree to disagree.
It's it's it's the way of the world.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It's the reason that.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's it. It's everything that a human should be.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It's it's humanity where you can sit down and you
can hash it out, and where you we have to
come to some We all have something about us that
can be.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Looked at as good.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
And when we when we lose sight of that, when
we put somebody in a box and we decide that
this facet of their life, this aspect of their life,
and what I mean right now is just politics. When
your politics inspire I don't even if that's the word,
but push someone or make someone feel like you need
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to die. We have lost sight of everything that this
world is about.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
We've we've lost it.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
We've and and I don't even know if I could
if I should say we, because I haven't lost it.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I have some of the most wonderful, creative, uh peaceful
people I know are the most liberal, wild you know,
wildflower type people that just I love them for who
they are.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
That we're different. We're so freaking different, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And I have friends that have been in prison and
they're released now, and we disagree on a lot, but
I tell you what they need me, I'm there because
it's it. It's their heart. You know, you love someone's heart.
And I'm I'm not an emotional person. I don't get
overly emotional. But when I was sitting down to my
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husband and I were talking last night, I'm gonna tell
you this that my husband got emotional. And a lot
of men, you know, a lot of men that I
look up to and I respect, and I think a
lot of I watched them openly weep on TV yesterday
and on TikTok, and that that alone brought the gravity
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of what this is to the forefront of my mind.
And and there's nothing I can say that hasn't been said.
But there's people that live into this that couldn't stand him. Okay,
what I'm saying, they couldn't stand him. However, if you
wanted that man to die, if you wanted to celebrate
his death. You are you are wrong, You are dead wrong,
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and I cannot align with you in anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, I couldn't agree for more than with what you
just said. Look, I didn't agree with every single thing
Charlie Kirk said. I mean, it's something that sticks out
to me.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
He you know, old Charlie was as anti college.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I mean, he frigging hated college, you know, unless you
were going to be a heart surgeon or something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
He saw no purpose for it. I didn't agree with that.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I feel like there are a lot of problems with colleges,
but I feel like education is always a good thing,
and if you can swing it, I feel like you
should should do that. There's some people, of course, not
made for college, and that doesn't mean there's going to
be a failure. And that was kind of his message,
and I agree with that part. But he was almost
you know, any college. But I you know, hey, that
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was his opinion. And I think the problem with this
entire situation is we live in America, and to me,
when I think of America, the first thing I think of,
even before the Second Amendment, is the First Amendment and
the right to free speech and everybody has the right
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to say their opinion right, wrong or otherwise. I don't
have to agree with everything you say to like you. Hell,
I know some Democrats that I like.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They're fun to hang out with, and we will have
our little debates and we'll both laugh about it. And
that you know you're wrong and I'm right is our
attitude towards each other. But we never come to blows,
or nor will we think to come to blows. When
you hate someone's so much, your heart is so dark
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that you will kill them because you just don't agree
with what they got to say.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
The problem is with you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
It's a heart problem. Listen.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I remember I went to LSU, and I can remember
being a your young kid right when you start out
of college. I was seventeen my freshman year of college,
and I walked through free speech Alley, which is.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
What they called it.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
They probably still do, but anyway, and I remember being harassed,
flat out harassed by people yelling with big signs and
big you know, big to dos and loud speakers and screaming.
And I remember and I'm loud, okay me personally, I'm
a loud person. I know that I take up a
lot of space. And I don't necessarily mean to, but
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it's just a personality thing. But I never want to
impose on somebody to the point that I make them
uncomfortable walking around a college campus. That was something that
I appreciated about Charlie's approach was that he just sat
at a table with a microphone.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
He didn't get in your face, he didn't yell, he
didn't put you know.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
And I specifically remember this instance. And if you're my age,
I'm forty. How old am I forty forty one? Forty
forty forty? I'm forty. I remember these people U super
religious sect of some type. But anyway, I remember walking
out of the student union and they had these huge
signs with pictures of aborted babies on it, and they
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were screaming that we were all going to hell and this,
that and the other. And I remember thinking, what did
I do to you other than just walk out of
this building? You know, why do you think that you need.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
To yell at me? And I wanted to have a
conversation almost of like.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
And so I looked down and there were these children
with them, and these children were no older than seven eight.
They had some toddlers too, and those children were holding
the signs and I walked up to the children and
I was one of the kids and I knelt down.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I said, hey, buddy, what you got on your sign?
And he was like a picture, you know?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
And he was like, you know, bad uh Sin, You're
going to hell? And I said wow. I said can
you tell me more about it? And he just kind
of looked at me and I said that's all you know.
I said, are you repeating? And he's like, yep, we
got it. We have to we're repeating it, you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And I said okay, and I said, well, I tell
you what. I'm not gonna yell at you. I'm going
to tell you that you're loved. And he just looked
at me and I said, so you have a great day.
And I got up and I walked off.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And it was almost my way of like saying, I'm
you don't have to I wanted. I felt so like
that kid was just getting it so wrong because he
didn't know any better because his parents were telling you
have to go yell and holler at people to get
your point across, and you absolutely don't have to yell
and scream and and so when you climb a ladder
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and you lay down prone on the top of a building,
and you've done reconnaissance, and you've gone with the mission
of ending the life of someone that you disagree with,
Let's strip all of the politics away. Seriously, I want
to strip it down to just the man, flesh and bone.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
You ended someone's.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Life who had two babies at home, who has a
wife that was knew she was so cherished by this man.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And no one will love her ever the way he
loved her.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And no one will ever swoop those babies up and
love them the way their daddy loved them. And when
my husband got emotional, like I mentioned a minute ago yesterday,
his emotions were because his father died when he was little.
You know, his mother is gone. He said, my brother
is dead. My husband's whole family is dead. They died
all tragically, actually, And he said in tears rolled out
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of his eyes, and he said, you know, you don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
He said, you just don't get it. And I said
I know, and he said, no, don't say I know.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
He said, those children have just lost their leader of
their household. They don't have someone to teach to be
the daddy to tell.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Him how a man treats a woman. They were stripping.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I'm sorry, but they were apologize, they were robbed, they
were robbed and his people and I apologize, but as
a people, you know, honor thy mother and thy father.
And if you can't look at a family unit and say,
maybe that's not what I agree to, but that's their.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Family and you can't just love them that way.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yeah, I don't want to be here in a world
where that's how we're how we're treating one another.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, and they wun'tessed it. They saw it, you know
how horrific. I can't imagine. I can't imagine seeing that anybody.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I love.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
It's visceral if you watch it, and I'm glad I
watched it because it's the reality of what just happened.
It's so animal, it's so horrific. I mean, he just
his arms atrophy. They pull up and he's over and
like his blood is just spilled. It's unlike anything that
we should see other than on a on a war
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on a war site or something. It's it's not anything
anyone should ever see.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's it's simply awful. And you know, obviously our our
hearts and prayers go out to everybody who knew and
loved Charlie, and.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
And speaking of that, and you got emotional.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And look there Meghan Kelly last night, Uh, she went live,
you know, breaking news on.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Her show, and she was very close to Charlie Kark.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
As a matter of fact, they were they had some
speaking engagements, uh set up for the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And when she broke.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
This news of the shooting, she did nobody knew if
he was dead or not yet. Although we knew, we
didn't know right there was no confirmation of that. And
so that came through as she's recording, as she's live
on YouTube. Megan Kelly is one tough lady and Meghan
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Allie burke completely down. So before we go any further,
I want y'all to hear what I just mentioned with
Meggan Kelly. So I'm gonna play the clip for you
of her the second she found out her friend Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Had been assassinated. Here's that clip.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Charlie's been shot. He's been shot. It appeared in the neck.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
There is video of the event of the shooting that
took place from far away. We're gonna show you that
Utah Valley University. This is graphic. It's not as graphic
as some of the films that is being represented as
out there right now and having been taken more close up.
So we're gonna look at just this one, which is
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from a distance. I've texted Charlie myself. I don't know
how he is. I don't know if he's okay. I
don't know what the state of his injuries are. But
he has been shot, as confirmed by the President of
the United States, the FBI also confirming, and as we
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await further updates on his condition, all we can do
is pray. We can pray, pray, pray God that he
survived this, Pray for his family, Pray for his children's
two young children, and ask ourselves what our country is
coming to.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
How does this happen?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
How does somebody who's only job is to comment on
political matters wind up a target for an assassin. This
is the United States of America. We have commentators, we
have provocative commentators. This is what we've been doing since
the dawn of time. There are news outlets reporting the
worst right now, Glenn, I don't know what I'm waiting
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for Before I report it, you know, I trust just
the news. I trust dest it. What are we waiting for,
like the AP to say it. We don't trust that
more than we trust these they're reporting that Charlie has died,
that he's dead at the age of thirty one.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Which she would have to be if that video was real.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
There's no way he survived that. Only what it is,
it had to have happened quickly, right right.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
If you see the video, you do not see any suffering. No,
he appears her be spared the horrific moments after that.
The girl on the Charlotte train wasn't when she knew
she was dying, or she knew something terrible had happened.
As clear Charlie went down. He went down quickly. Oh
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good god. Yeah, he's dead.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It's official.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
It's from the COO of Turning Point who just tweeted out,
Dear Turning Point USA family, it's with a heavy heart
that we the Turning Point USA leadership team write to
notify you that. Earlier this afternoon, Charlie went to his
ejournal reward with Jesus Christ in Heaven. We're still gathering
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more information and we'll come to you soon with updates. However,
in the meantime, Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action
will be closed for business until Monday.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
The fifteenth, likely longer.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
If you're in the field are traveling, please cancel everything
and return home immediately. All internal, external meetings, etc. Are canceled.
Please pray sincerely, Justin and then they offer grieving services
counsel services for their team. I am so sorry to
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be bringing you this neops.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I'm sorry for what it means for our country, for Charlie,
poor dear Charlie, this family.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Sorry for what it's going to mean for the debates
that we have yet to have.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
That he would have won, he would have put everyone
to shame on as.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
He had been. And I'm angry, really fucking.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Angry about how this happened, why this happened, and why
we don't have a person in custody.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
This guy was beloved.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
But you know what infuriated me more than anything I
was thinking about this last night was the fact that
Charlie for the Left for Democrats, staunch Democrats, was a
good guy. He should have been, because he was willing
to engage in dialogue with him. Look, let me tell
you something. He's a better man than me, because when
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you get on my Facebook and you, you know, want
to start some bullshit because of an opinion I have,
I'm not engaging with you.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I got no time.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I don't have time for that. That's my attitude towards it.
I don't have time to debate you. I'm not looking
for you to change my mind, and I'm not going
to try to change yours. You're welcome to think what
you want to think, but I'm not getting into this
because nobody, you know, who are you to go on
my page on something I posted and make a negative
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comment when you weren't invited to. In my opinion, he
actually took the time to say, hey, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. That was his whole His.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Whole thing was when people stopped talking.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, so they killed the good guy marriage. It's what
they did.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Marriages and when communication stops, war start, when communication stops education,
when we stop actually communicating with kids and we're just
throwing test sett them and all of that learning stops.
And I just can't even people that hated him, like
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we put too much stock and celebrities. Okay, I believe
that wholeheartedly. Everyone's an influencer. Everyone has an opinion. Hell,
I have a mic in front of me, and I'm
a nobody, okay, But when we stop looking at both
sides of an argument, when you get blinders and you
only can look at one site. You've even said it
to me before, ooh, you've got those rose colored glasses on,
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like when it comes.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
To law enforcement. You're right, But when you check me on.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
That, it does make me go within and say, you know,
maybe maybe I do need to take a step back,
Maybe I do need.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
To reevaluate the angle I looked at this.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
It's caused it cause his intern you know, you go
with it inside and you start kind of thinking, well,
maybe I do need to look at this from a
different direction.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
And he was willing to engage.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
And that's whether you agreed with his opinions. And as
I've said before, he said things I didn't necessarily agree with.
Said a lot I did. I probably say I was
about eighty five percent in agreements with what Charlie, but
I respected the hell out of the fact that not
only would he was he willing to open up a
dialogue and have a conversation respectfully, mind you, but he
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also knew the resk. You know how many death threats
Charlie Kirk has.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Had, he brought it up thousands. Let me say this,
let me say this.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yes, Cash Battel I have you know I'm a supporter
of Cash Battel I, as a matter of fact, have
read his book. The problem I have with this is
cash for Cash to come out as the director of
the FBI, and I quoted him the subject who shot
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Charlie Kirk is in custody. You can't do that. You
cannot do that. Why Why is that a problem?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Do I think? First of all, do I think he
did it in some sort of malice? No? I think
he truly believed they had the suspect of custody, was it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Was his intel rome that he was told to him?
Probably obviously so, because that guy was released. However, you
can't make that mistake as the FBI director. You've got
to make damn sure and be one hundred percent sure.
Why is it important? Because everybody quits looking at that point.
Now we're into the next day. This guy is still
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on the loose. But when THEI director comes out and
says the dude's been caught. Everybody lets their groward down.
Nobody's looking and saying is there anybody in the area.
I don't recognize.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
That's what's crazy, And look, you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I might be putting on my ten foil hat right now,
but I feel like that old man was a diversion.
I feel like that was a diversion so that the
real shooter could get away. Why would he all of
a sudden make that scene? Now was obvious it wasn't
him because he was right on top of Charlie, this
old man that went down. So either he's a complete
and total looney tune, which hey, I can give him
that too, or because the security there wasn't security like
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for the president or something.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Charlie ka police officers and for bodygarw and whoop do
you do?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
The bodyguards are standing behind Charlie Kirk looking vote up
with their tattoos, which.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Hey, shout out, don't like a tattooed man, But what
are you doing.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
From behind that you're going to do other than what
they did jump on his dead body?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
So what my point here.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Is great for the show of security, but this was
obviously not well vetted as far as the real threats
against his life.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And that's my personal opinion and I stand by it.
Ten toes down.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Because those buildings his Charlie Kirk, his security advisors or
people in his team didn't like look at that.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well, here's the thing, Kaja, and this is I want
everybody to keep this in their forefront of their mind.
Charlie Kirk was a media guy. He was not the president.
He was not he was not a member of Congress.
He is not entitled to Secret Service protection, all those
sort of things.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And so how many.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Speeches has Charlie Kirk given, probably hundreds of thousands. Never
has this happened, Never has he been shot at. Now,
from a bodyguard perspective, I don't care what anybody says.
At some point, you're gonna get complacent. You've been to
thousands of these and never even the slightest chance of
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someone shooting at you.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
They were there for the stupid kid that jumps the
barrier punch that's right now.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
These were legit professionals. These were former Navy seals, the.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Same people that guard Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Look, Joe Rogan runs around with four Navy seals that
could break into the Pentagon. They are the best of
the best, and he pays them. I'm sure very well
Charlie Kirk the same way. But you killed it when
you said they're there to stop somebody from beating Charlie
Kirk's ass or pulling out a gun close range type
of thing. If somebody wants to kill Charlie Kirk or
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the president or your milkman, they can do it.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I don't care how much security you have.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
If they can get up on a perch and no
one see them, they can do it. And there's nothing
that's going to stop that unless you're behind You know
what's sad about this whole thing is now we're going
to get in a situation where when these people go
to college, campuses are going to have to be surrounded
by glass like Trump had to do, which when I
saw that for the first time, I couldn't believe I'm
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seeing this in the United States of America that our
president had to speak behind bulletproof glass.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Well, and we say, Charlie and I know we're going
along on this business.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
We're going to go till we say you're right.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Charlie Kirk is not the president or something like that.
But he absolutely was an influential figure that got massive
and I'm not minimized, oh I know that, I know that,
but he got mass attention. He had a lot of
eyes on him, and he started quite arguably the most
the largest movement in modern day history in terms of
conservative politics. It is the forefront of our show to date,
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it's the forefront of the media today, and it is
September eleventh. It's a day of supposed to be and
it is but of remembrance. And this day is so
heavy for me personally because September eleventh rocked my world
when I was a senior in high school. September eleventh
is the date that I found my mother in law dead.
And then September eleventh is now the day that I'm
having to talk about Charlie Kirk being shot.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And I've had enough. I've had enough.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
And this is where the problem is gonna start, you
hear me. And it's not when someone say, well, if
we take away guns, okay, great, then they're gonna mow
someone down with the car.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
And then what we take away car, then they're gonna
stab you with the knife, okay.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
And the whole reason that we have the gun rights
we have in this cunt is so that we the
people maintain the power of over the government. And the
day that you stop realizing that is the day that
you are not a free thinker. You're not a freethinker
in my opinion, because I'm looking at history, and I'm
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bright enough to know history repeats its fucking self.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Open a book, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Quit opening TikTok and listen to some dumbass twenty year
old influencer who doesn't know anything and is trying to
sell lipbalm to.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
You while talking politics. Maybe look at some facts.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
And I get impassionate about this, not because of the
political side that we're on, but because I have a
right as a citizen of the United States of America,
to life, to liberty, and to the pursuit of my happiness.
And when I wake up and I see that someone
has had their life taken away, their liberty stripped from them,
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and now they no longer have that chance at a
pursuit of happiness with their family, we have some fucked
up people in this world. And I do not want
to hear the next three things that I'm about to say.
And if you're not with me, too, bad number one.
I don't want to hear we're gonna be better for
this the fuck we are. I'm tired of hearing that
we're gonna, we're gonna recover and prayers for his family
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and then we move on to the next thing.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
No, we're not. I'm done.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I have been taught to turn the other cheek my
entire life. I've been I've been taught don't engage with crazy,
don't engage with stupidity.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Well you know what, Jim, It's time.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
It's time to fuck around and let's let some people
fucking find out. And I mean it with everything in
my soul. I am tired of being complacent against crazy.
I will not live in a world where people are
sniping people because they disagree with them. This is the
United States of America and to the Republic for which
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it stands, one nation under God. I quit in with
liberty and justice for all, and I mean it like
when I say the Pledge to the United States.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I mean that liberty and justice for all, not for
just the people.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I agree with Charlie Kirk's irreplacement in a lot of ways.
There's there will, in my opinion, never be another Charlie Kirk,
someone that could relate to young.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
People the way that he could.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I shouldn't relate to young eighteen nineteen twenty year olds
because number one, I'm nowhere near close to that age.
But number two, it's a different ward from them. Charlie could.
Charlie at eighteen years old found a turning point USA
at eighteen eighteen. When I was eighteen, you know what
I was doing, Chasing.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Women, pretending to be pretending to be in the Red Cross.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Pretending to be the Red Cross, all those things. I
wasn't building no freaking company.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
But the thing that made him amazing outside of just
his sheared genius and someone that was so quick with
a response and an educated response, it was just some
UNBELIEFDB like he brought receipts. Yeah, he brought receipts with
everything he said. Uh, there will never be another the world.
And I mean Democrats, Republicans, independence.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I don't care what you are.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
All of us lost that, and that sucks because one
person is just crazy and out of their minds evil.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
They're not crazy, they're evil.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Evil and crazy.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Look, I posted this yesterday morning, and maybe we can
wrap up with this, but I posted this yesterday morning
before any of this occurred, and it was how I
was feeling in the moment, and now it just seems
even more poignant. I said, being morally clean won't protect
you from the wolves. Being strategic, strategically useful will. In
the real world, you aren't judged by your heart. You're
(38:49):
judged by your leverage. You're either an asset or a liability.
Stop asking to be liked. Become too valuable to ignore,
And I think that's what happened with Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
He became too valuable.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, sometimes you become so powerful with your words and
valuable and powerful in his in when speaking about Charlie
Kirk is really interchangeable because when you have the power
to change people's minds by using common synsical arguments, Uh,
(39:26):
the there is no nobody out there that doesn't credit
Charlie Kirk for a lot of President Trump winning that election,
because the young people came out and they voted Trump
for the most part, and a lot of people believe
it's because Charlie worked tiresly on campuses to go and
say why are you not voting for Trump?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
And I'm going to tell you why I am voting
for Trump, and he changed some minds and people don't
like that. People don't like that kind of influence. And
when he became so powerful that he was making sense,
you know, some people's answer to that is to get
rid of him. Eventually they're going to find out who
did this. There's too much There is too much heat,
(40:09):
too much heat on this individual, whoever that is. And
we'll get a lot more information on that front. But
let me say this one final thing and then we'll
get off this subject.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
And thanks for hanging in there with us so far.
People who are listening to.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Oh, they love it. They love it.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
They don't want to get off the subject now. I
mean they love hearing what we have to say. We
don't have to apologize for saying our peace on this show.
But I'll say this, Charlie Kirk knew the risk. He
knew the risk death threats constantly. Let me tell you something.
Kelly talks about true crime. I talk about true crime
(40:48):
with Bloody and Gola and exposed. I kind of get
into that. I've had my share of threats. They are
not fun. Hell, I had a serial killer after me. Literally,
I got.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
A death threat in prison within me.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Yeah, So, I mean, none of them are fun. I
don't care how tough a man or how tough a
lady you are. They're scary. And in a lot of cases,
it's not for yourself, it's for your family. And so
I'm sure it ran across Charlie's mind many times.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
You know, me doing.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
This not only puts me at risk, it puts my
family at risk. But he believed in his heart that
the message was more important than his life, and sadly,
you know, the worst nightmare came true for him. I'm sure.
And all I can do now is number one, pray
(41:41):
that this person gets caught swiftly. Pray that somewhere in
this something good comes. I gotta believe something good will
come out of this, because that's what God says. And
pray for his family and his wife, and they've got
a tough time ahead, and I just pray that somewhere
(42:02):
in here they'll be able to find something, uh, to
find happiness.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
And I don't want my when I say I'm praying,
I don't want that to come across as the casual.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Oh, I'll say a prayer and move on. No, listen
to me.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
I'm speaking to my God on your behalf, and I'm
asking that he covers your wife and your kids and
your mom. You know. Sorry, I don't know what the
deal is. I just this is attack on an attack
on all of us. Uh. It shows the fragility of
life and and you should never have to be quiet, right,
(42:41):
all right, let's move on to I believe this is
the Boo Yoh Ivory Coast.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Have you ever heard of Boo Yoh?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I have not, and I saw that article and I
so while you're going through it, I'll check out where.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Find a map, jum, so we know where we are,
because I don't even know where this is right now?
All right, but children and a baby are among the
eleven who remained missing after a boat capsized a hippo
overturned the boat carrying fourteen passengers on the Cassandra River
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