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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell
stories of real crimes with real victims, whose cases are
so shocking that many are left wondering how is this
even real? I use my experiences in law enforcement corrections,
and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator,
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dig deep into complex cases of evil acts, some so
evil many feel they are unspeakable. Warning. Unspeakable as intended
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for mature audiences. If you are easily offended, then I'm
not your girl. Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all, it's
kJ here and I'm back. I've got a great episode
for you today. What is going on? If you are
watching me right now podcast, you'll see I have this
ridiculous contraption on my thumb because I hurt my finger.
I hurt my finger and it's not a cool it's
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not a cool injury either. You would think I'd love
to give you something awesome, but they said it was
a texting thumb. As unsexy as that is. I'm like,
for real, I text so much and I message so
much that I've injured my thumb. So don't y'all tell me.
I don't answer y'all's messages because it's true. I've got
the texting thumb to prevent so ridiculous. All right, But anyway,
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I hope you're doing well. I hope your thumbs are
just moving fluidly because mine sucks. But I'm gonna ask
you to come with me today to California, California A
and we're gonna be in the Lakewood north of Long
Beach area, and this is where Bruce and Jenna Kochlic
built their dream home. Jana was born on January first,
nineteen sixty and in her family, she was an only child,
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but that was a perfect thing for their family because
she was her parents absolute pride and joy. And as
a young adult, her dream as she grew up was
that she wanted to go to law school. She had
been talking about this basically her whole life, that that
is where she wanted to go and she wanted to
be a lawyer. But that all changed when she met
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the love of her life, Bruce, and when they met
and they decided that they wanted to get married and
start their family, she abandoned those plans of becoming a
lawyer and she decided, you know what, let's do something different.
I want to be with you, and I want us
to build this empire together. And so Bruce had dreams
that he wanted to build a real estate business, and
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he knew in his heart of hearts that Jana was
the one. She was the one that could help him
to succeed because she had what he lacked. Because Jenna,
she really enjoyed being in the background. She liked doing
the computer work and the paperwork and all of that,
while Bruce was really more of the personal side of it.
He really pulled in with the public relations and got
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people's attention, and he liked being the face of this duo,
and y'all it worked. She wanted her husband, Bruce to shine,
and she did her best to put him in the
best light. And their business was real estate. It was
with the Remax Company, and their beach office was located
right there in California in a nice little area, and
they were starting up. As well as doing their real estate,
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which they were doing really well at, they also were
working on a little side hustle that they were trying
to start up a computer software company. So they had
a lot of things going for them and they worked
really hard together to build this dream of not having
just one avenue of cash flow of having multiple businesses
that they could own and that they could manage. Now.
According to her colleagues, Jenna was a hard working woman,
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very hard working and described as meticulous too. She had
a penchant for being punctual. She was always on time.
She was always prepared and on task, and a very
the book type of lady. Very professional, very prompt with
her appointments, and downright just dependable. If you needed her,
she was there. She was the one that you could
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count one. Now, let's talk about her for a minute.
She stood five foot seven, one hundred and thirty pounds.
She had long blonde hair with bangs. But her hair
looked very consistent with that of like the late nineties.
It had a little bit of poof to it, you
know what I'm talking about, in those old school kind
of like Barbie hairdoos with the longer hair kind of
maybe had a little flip at the end and then
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the poofy little bangs. But she had blue eyes, very
very very thick, full lips both top and bottom. She
had very prominent lips, and I'd say that that was
really her most prominent feature when you looked at her
and they were natural. They weren't these duck lips of today.
These were very natural, thick, nice lips. She was not
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a very heavy makeup wearer, but she absolutely cared about
her appearance. She wore makeup, but just more of a
natural tone. And another thing about her is that she
loved to work out, and she liked to work out
consistently because she wanted to look her best. She always
wanted to do the best that she could do and
be the best that she could be. Bruce Kochlitch's information
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from his younger years. As I was looking for his stuff,
it was a bit more sparse. I had a little
bit harder time finding information on him. But I can
tell you that in his adult life he was very
successful in business, and he liked it that way too.
It wasn't like he was kind of in the background
about it. He was very proud of the businesses and
the life that he and his wife had built together.
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Jenna was a little bit shorter than Bruce. Bruce was
obviously now taller than her. I'd say he's somewhere around
five eleven. That's a guestimation. He's thin, and his features
are all very narrow and pointed. He had a longer neck,
very small eyes, his mouth was really really small, average
average male haircut. He had brown hair, he would lightly
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gel it, and his front two teeth ever so slightly
crossed in the front of one another. But when you
look at him, he kind of looks like that guy
that would work in technology or something really analytical. And
I don't mean this meanly at all, but if you've
seen the movie Napoleon Dynamite, Okay, not Napoleon, though, if
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you've seen Napoleon Dynamite, it's his brother. Do you all
remember his brother? Love that dude, but he kind of
looks like him, the brother in those movies. And if
you haven't seen it, go look it up. I'm sure
I'll put a picture on Facebook or something. But that's
pretty much what he looked like. But they definitely fit
together as a couple whenever you're looking at them. They
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had been married for eleven years at the time that
this story took place, and their lives were very in
tune with one another. They had similar goals and very
similar interests, and that kept their love alive. And I
guess you'd say that's a really good thing, because they
spent most of their days all day together because they
they worked together, they worked at the same company. They
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were very good with communication, They were dependent on one another,
very codependent in their relationship. By day, they worked at
the business that they built and grew together over the years,
and by night they were snuggled in together at their home.
And their home was a beautiful one located in a
very prime area on a golf course. So they were
doing well. I wouldn't say that they were overly flashy people,
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but they lived nicely and nothing about them seemed super
over the top. If anything, their lifestyle seemed very low
risk and very average American way of life and living.
And that's why it kind of came as a surprise
when Bruce filed a missing person's report for Jenna on Tuesday,
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August twenty first of two thousand and one. Literally, I
went and I looked. Literally the week I started my
senior year of high school, to be exact. Bruce called
Jen as friend that she called her ninni, And that
morning when he made that phone call, he was like, Hey,
have you seen Jana. I can't. I haven't spoken to her.
I can't find her. She had no idea where she
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could be what what can I do for you? Though?
You know, her best friend was willing to help, to
do anything to try to find her, and Bruce just
really started crying and was like, you can tell me
where my wife is. And it almost came across like
maybe Nini knew something and wasn't wasn't telling him, but
that just wasn't the case. She genuinely did not know
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where Jana was. But Jenna would normally show up at
the office around nine ish in the morning, around nine o'clock,
and their office was really close to their residence too,
so it wasn't like there was a far commute for
her to have driven. So the police arrived and they
were now involved because no one could locate her. So
they went and they checked the hospitals. They checked for
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any traffic accident reports that may have a woman that's
un undetermined or or unnamed, but nothing. They couldn't find anything,
and that's when a detective, her name was Karen Shanka.
Karen came in and she spoke to Bruce to establish
a timeline to at least work off of to determine
when when's the last time anyone had seen her? And
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he said it was Monday morning. He was that morning,
he said, I kissed her goodbye at six am. We're
partners at our real estate agency. She usually would get
here between nine and nine thirty, but she just didn't
show up after about ten fifteen, maybe somewhere around ten thirty.
He started asking around the office when Jana never showed up, like, hey,
have you seen her? Has anyone talked to her? Nobody
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had spoken to her, And that's when he said he
called her best friend and Ninni hadn't spoken to her either.
Now they did have a business partner too. His name
was Chris, And whenever all of this was going down,
before the detectives or the police got involved, Bruce asked
Chris to come with him to go look for her
because he was extremely nervous. And so Chris went back
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to the house with Bruce to go and try to
check on Jim. And when they got there, everything really
was in order, but the car, her purse, and her
cell phone were gone. But the thing was that the
house alarm was set. It really seemed like she got
all her shit together. She got ready that morning, then
she left the house, set the alarm, and then went missing.
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So something had to have happened within that timeframe. And
I know I've said this a million times, but most
people that are called in as missing are usually back
within twenty four hours. But this seemed like a very
odd situation that may need more attention because of the
situation and that she was definitely expected to be at
the office and never made it there, So the questions
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kind of start coming to mind. You know, what was
her mental state? Was she on any medication that may
cause a problem, But none of that seemed to be
an issue. None of that seemed to raise any red
flags or or anything. So the police decided to back
up even more and they wanted to trace her last
known footsteps. So Friday, August seventeenth, Jenna went to an
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Eric Clapton concert with her best friend Nini, and they
got home after midnight. Now they had planned at that time,
she and Bruce had planned to have this relaxed weekend together,
just the two of them, which is exactly what happened.
And then poof, Monday morning, she never makes it to
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the office after she kisses her husband goodbye, So, needing
more to go off of the police wanted to get
into the house and look around. Maybe there was something
that Bruce had missed that the detectives would be able
to pick out or to see, and Bruce says, no problem.
He gives full consent to search the home and the
police look in every nook and cranny from the trash
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can contents to the caller ID on the phone. I mean,
they left nothing unturned. And it turned out that something
was going on at the house okay, and both spouses
were aware of this, but the had become a problem
at the house. Neither spouse was wanting to answer it
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because they had been getting these creepy voicemails from a
male voice and it was really upsetting to Jana. The
messages would say things like you know me, you need
to call me, and then it would hang up, and
neither of them recognized the voice. They even had their
friends and their family listen to it, but nobody that
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they knew, and nobody in their inner circle could identify
this voice. They really were at a loss about it.
But it was very disturbing to Janna obviously was upsetting
to Bruce, and so they weren't really answering the phone
on the weekends because of that. So police took a listen,
and they took notes, and they tried then to determine, Okay,
are there any enemies that you as a couple may have,
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and this kind of evolved into something else. Okay, so
when they wanted to know about the enemies, Jenna's father
came into play here, not because he was the enemy,
but because his name was Paul Carpenter, and he had
been someone that was big in the state Senate. He
was a state senator from California, and maybe they came
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to this conclusion that maybe someone had beef with him
and had kidnapped Jenna to settle that beef or to
hurt her father, because her father, Paul Carpenter, was very
popular with the community that he served, but he had
gotten tied up at some point in his career in
some criminal activity. Now I'm not going to say that
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he was, you know, outslinging cocaine and you know, having
hoes and all that. That's not the type of criminal
activity that I mean. This is more like the people.
This is a quote that I found. People said that
he played politics the way many people played poker, and
that kind of said something to me that he was
a risk taker. He had no trouble taking risks in
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all aspects of his life, and part of that was
that he was on afraid to lose. He flat out
did not fear loss, and that went both in his
professional career and personally. He was willing to do a
lot and risk a lot. So he was very charming
to the people that he was supposed to represent politically.
But he also at the same time had become a
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target of an FBI sting and they were trying to
figure out it had to do with financial stuff. This
is not something that should be shocking to all of us.
We all know that there's corruption in politics, and anyone
who doesn't think there's corruption is nuts or not paying attention.
So he would become the target of an FBI sting,
and basically the FBI was contributing money to certain lawmakers
in exchange for legislative favors. Okay, the way that it
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seems to always go when we always find this out
our about our political people when it's all said and done.
So when that happened, he did get caught up in it,
for sure, and he was convicted in the nineteen nineties
on racketeering charges extortion, and he got a conspiracy charge,
but he would get off on a technicality. The jury,
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it would turn out, wasn't given proper instructions whenever they
were deliberating the case, and so all of it ended
up being nullified when it was all said and done
because of that one technicality. But he was forced to
leave office because of what had happened. Then, three years later,
in a completely different case, it wasn't even part of
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the same one, he was convicted on eleven counts of
obstruction of justice and money laundering. So there was a
whole lot of bullshit going on with her dad. He
may have been a great friendly handshaker and smiler and
kissing the babies, but he was doing some dirty deeds
behind closed doors. And he had illegally funneled seventy eight
thousand dollars through a Santa Monica public relations firm, is
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what it all boiled down to. Now, Right before he
was sentenced for this, he up and fled. He ran away.
Someone who was supposed to represent the people is illegally
doing all this shit, and then he fled. He flees
the country. Not only that he fled, he went to
Costa Rica and his claim of the reason of why
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he went to Costa Rica was that he was suffering
from prostate cancer and so he wanted to get better treatment.
And before he left. This is almost comical because they
would have fire and squatted me if I did this shit,
but you know people in high places, I guess. But
he before he left, I want you to know he
did thoughtfully write a note and he wrote it to
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the judge in the case, and he said, I find
my drive for survival stronger than my sense of obligation
to your legal system. Like can you imagine. You know,
many people are suffering behind bars with medical conditions. They
don't write a letter to the judge. They're just like,
screw you, and they put them behind bars. But now
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he's gonna leave, but write a letter first and say
I don't really feel like serving my time. I'd rather
go get my balls checked. Whatever. But it was true.
I will tell you that he may have actually been
going to get treatment for prostate cancer, but he wasn't
too sick to enter and win a national bridge tournament
in Central America. Okay, so he was sick, but he
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wasn't that sick. And because of all of his activities
and all the things that he was doing. He was
eventually tracked down the US was able to find him
after he spent I guess it was like a year.
It was a little over a year, I think, but
in Costa Rica. He spent time also in the Costa
Rican jail once they got him, and then he was
returned to California. Once he got to California, he was
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then sentenced to seven years in federal prison, but he
was ultimately released in nineteen ninety nine. So I guess
you could say that there were probably a lot of
people that were pissed off that maybe didn't get their favors,
but he sure as hell got their money, so they thought,
you know, maybe this has something to do with that
whole shebang that was going on. So maybe it was
a revenge situation for that activity. Maybe the voice in
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the creepy voicemails was the kidnapper. But that's really all
that police had to go on. Now. I also want
to tell you that Jana's father also at one point
was in the real estate industry as well as Jana,
and so they both also dealt with the ugly side
of the real estate industry or business. And what I
mean by that is that they had to go deal
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with repo repose of properties where the payments weren't being
made and such. So this was also looked at as
a possible lead in that some of these repode properties
that Jana was dealing with were known to be in
gang affiliated areas, and so this kind of branched out
into a whole bunchho. We don't know what happened, but
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she's she's definitely in a position that she could have
been pissing off a lot of people, or her dad
could have. So Jana was the one who would actually
get in her car drive and go collect the rent
at these properties, and so maybe it was part of
that situation. Jana was known to carry a gun and
have that, I guess for protection, but they thought, well,
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may maybe maybe she got robbed whenever she was going
to collect the funds. They know that she's getting all
this cash payments from these people, maybe she was robbed. Well,
this is what I want to say something to all
my listeners on here. Owning a gun and carrying a
gun and running your gun are all one thing, but
a willingness and having a comfort to actually use your
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said weapon is another thing. And I consistently. I constantly
see women specifically online that will say, oh, I have
a gun in my purse for safety. Well, please be
sure that if you're going to carry a gun for
your safety, that you're also going to take a course
put on by either your local law enforcement or somebody
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that knows what the hell they're doing, Because a gun
in your purse is completely useless in a surprise attack.
You know, your gun should always be on your person.
You should have your gun close to you where you
can grab it immediately. If you're scared, you can use it.
But if you're scared and you have it in your purse,
all you're doing is opening up an opportunity for the
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bad guy to take it from you and use it
against you. And I just really would like to push
that and make sure people understand owning a gun and
being comfortable and using it, shooting it, reloading it, and
unjamming it in a situation that's life or death are
very different. And at the time that I'm recording this,
I want you to know that our local sheriff's office,
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if you're local to me, living in Compara sheriff's office
is putting on a concealed carry course, and I would
suggest it's a very good course. I went through it myself,
even though I'd already been trained by them, but I
went through it myself to check it out. Go do it,
sign up, tell them kJ sent you. I don't care.
There's no kickbacks or anything for me, but I just
want you to be safe and be prepared to actually
use the weapon, not be afraid of it. Jana had
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the gun, but I don't know how comfortable she was
with it. But regardless of whatever her comfort levels were,
she hadn't returned and Bruce was still unable to locate her.
All this time. Later that everyone's out and looking for her,
Bruce and his family, including Bruce's stepbrother, tried to find her.
That he gave lots of details to his family, his
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head in his hands, you know, sobbing even though he
was completely totally devastated. He would tell anyone that would listen,
everyone that would listen, this is what happened, Please help
me find her. At one point, he even thought about
hiring a helicopter, a private helicopter, and getting searchers out
there to do an aerial search for her, if that
would have helped but he did mention that her car
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was missing. Remember I told you the keys in the
car and all that were gone. So police started being
of the belief that if she was kidnapped at some
point soon they would be receiving either a ransom note
or a call in exchange for her return, simply based
on not only her father's role in the community that
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this could have been, you know, a result of, but
also her financial status because they were well off. I
want to make it seem like they were just average joes.
They were well off. And so police waited and they
monitored the phones closely to see would a demand call
come in. But no calls would ever come in for
a ransom, and no sightings of her were seen. Nobody
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was calling in saying hey, I see I've seen her,
or I've spoken to her. So the political career retaliation
theory was quickly ruled out. It just didn't fit any
scenario and nothing would match and back that up. So
in the meantime, the police decided, well, you know what,
maybe we really need to focus on finding her car.
If we can find her car, then the chances are
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that we could probably locate her. There were still a
whole lot of people that still need to be vetted,
and there was still people that they wanted to go
check out to see that, Hey, would you would they
have hurt Jana. But finding that car really became a
central part of finding Jenna. Chris Bodison was going to
be the business partner that they had in this software
company that they were starting up. That was his whole
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angle in there in the relationship, and although this was
not explicitly stated anywhere, people within their social circles really
got the feeling that Jana wasn't a fan of him.
She didn't take to him very well. And he also
coincidentally left town right after her disappearance. So police kind
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of wondered, hmm, would he have really benefited from Jana
being gone? And what they found was, yeah, he actually
would have benefited because with her gone, the business now
would go from a three way split between Jenna, Bruce,
and Chris to now just being Bruce and Chris because
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of the way that they had set up this business.
So they obviously ran out and they had to have
a word with Chris. They were finally able to locate him,
and when he was speaking with them, he had an alibi.
He said, look, I've been hanging out for the whole
weekend with my girlfriend. And they questioned him deeply on
this and what was he doing, where were you and
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do you have this and that to prove this and that?
And the truth was he did and he was eventually
cleared after everything in the questioning was backed up and proven.
So Chris was ruled out as someone that may have
had something to actually do with her going missing. So
whenever police went to go speak with Jana's bestI, Nini,
they wanted to know what was Jenna like at the
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concert that y'all went to, because we know for a
fact that she went to the concert with you. And
Nini said she was happy. She was very happy. She
also only had one glass of wine and they said
just one glasser on the whole concert. She said, yeah,
just one? Well, why why did she limit herself to
one glass of wine during this hour's long concert? And
Nini said, look, she had plans. She wanted to get
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home as early as she could and not stay out
too late because she had an early gem appointment with
her personal trainer and his name was Dean. She remember,
I told you she really cared about her appearance. And
she wanted to work out. So police wanted to go
learn more about Dean, so they talked to him and
he says, yes, I absolutely do know Jenna. I've been
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her her personal trainer for the last five years. They said, okay,
well what was Janna like, what were y'all's relationships like,
or you know, what did y'all do together? And he says,
Jena was very punctual, she was a good client. She
was always there, and she was always on time. And
he added, she's never missed an appointment. If she said
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she was going to be there, she was going to
be there. But she missed one appointment for the very
first time ever in all of the five years that
they had worked out together, she missed her appointment on Saturday,
August the eighteenth. That was the morning after the concert.
So every Saturday morning around seven am, they would go
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and they would jog next to the beach. So police
were like, well, that's romantic, go running off by the beach.
I wonder if maybe there's more to this relationship than
just this casual business workout trainer relationship. So maybe there's
a fair an affair going on. Maybe there's a relationship
problem that we have going on here, Well, some changes
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in recent time would actually lend themselves to that theory. Jana,
like I told you, liked her appearance, but she had really, really,
really been working on her appearance right before her disappearance.
Not only was she working out constantly, but she was
losing weight and she also had gone and gotten her
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teeth done. She went and got veneers. So, hmm, she's
wanting to look better. Who is she wanting to look
better for? Kind of becomes the question. And another one
of Jana's friends, her name was Connie. Connie also trained
with Dean, So they went to investigators went to talk
to Connie and say, hey, what was their relationship like,
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what did you see whenever y'all were working out, or
what is Dean like whenever he is training with you?
And Connie said that she never, ever, on any occasion,
ever saw Connie and Dean flirting with one another. She
said there was never any sexual tension in the air.
There was never any hint of anything that she ever
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saw that would say that the two were more than
just a client instructor relationship. She said that Dean was
a very professional and calm individual, that the relationship that
she always saw was very professional and by the book.
So police kind of went, okay, well, that doesn't sound
like a screaming relationship or affair. So they really went
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in to screen Dean's alibi for whenever Jannah went missing,
and they found again all of his statements seemed to
pan out. There was absolutely zero evidence of anything inappropriate
between the two of them relationship wise. There were no
texts or calls or anything like that. She just really
wasn't the type of woman to cheat. She was not
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the type of woman that would run off or have
a secret lover. And this was what everyone who knew
her backed up. She just was not that type of woman.
She was loyal and she followed the rules, and that
included relationship rules. So when they talked to Dean, they said,
did you talk to her? I mean, did you even
see or what happened? He said no, He said, actually
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I called her cell phone when she didn't show up,
she didn't answer. I then called her house phone and
she didn't answer at the house either, And he said, look, really, honestly,
did kind of concern me because I've never not had
her show up. But I'm in no position to do
much else. I mean, I'm just her personal trainer. I'm
not gonna go show up at her house. So he said,
I just went about my day, but it did kind
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of make me wonder why she never called and never showed. Well,
it turned out Jenna also had another appointment that day.
She had a massage that was booked for two pm,
and she was gonna go get that massage with her BESTII. Well,
she no showed for the massage as well. So when
that had happened, Niini called both Janna's phone and she
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called Bruce's phone looking for Jenna, but neither of them
answered the phone. So police asked Bruce about that. They're like, well,
hang on a minute. She was supposed to have all
these appointments, she didn't show up for those, and you know,
it's kind of curious that neither of you answered the
phone whenever her best friend was calling. But again he said, no,
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we were supposed to have this relationship weekend together that
we agreed we were going to focus on one another,
and we agreed we were not going to be using
our cell phones during this weekend because we wanted to
just throw out all the craziness of the world. And
just focus on one another and spend our time together.
So while this is admirable and I think that's great
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for a relationship for y'all to invest in one another,
police kind of took issue with one part of that,
and their problem was this, Okay, great, let's say that
y'all want to focus on one another and really rekindle
or whatever have a loving relationship that weekend. That's awesome.
The problem the police had with it is that they
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were both in the real estate business, and anyone who
sells real estate knows that your entire livelihood revolves around
leads that you get from phone calls, and those phone
calls tend to be heavier on the weekends because that's
when people are off, that's when they're searching for houses,
that's when they're driving around seeing the signs and calling
the real ters. So it wasn't, you know, this obvious
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red flag flying, But the police really did find that
curious that you'd be willing to throw out your entire
livelihood potential to spend time with one another. On top
of the fact, she nos showed for two appointments, so
a more detailed questioning into Bruce's whereabouts were necessary for
them to get a more specific timeline for what Bruce
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was doing. So he says, sure, I'll lay it out
for you. He said that month day morning, I went
and I looked at several properties that I needed to
check out. He said. Then before all of that was done,
before I got back to the office, and he said,
I got to the office around eight thirty. This was
some early morning running that I did, he said. After
he got to the office, he did a little bit
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of work and then he went and he attended a
funeral that was verified from nine point thirty to eleven AM.
When the funeral was over, I went back to the office.
By eleven I was already trying to call her. I
had called the house all the coworkers said. He was
pretty shook up. He couldn't find her. That's when he
and Chris went to the house to look for her
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and didn't find anything except her car and all the
things she would likely need for the day missing. So
they went and the police spoke to the coworker Chris again,
and they were like, dude, tell us what happened. Step
by step when you got to the house, he said,
we pulled up, he said, we went in the house,
and they said, when you went in the house, Bruce
said that the alarm was on. Did you see him
deactivate the alarm? And yes, the alarm was on. I
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personally watched him undo the burglar alarm before either of
us went further into the house. He said, they're just
I was with him the whole time and he was
never out of my sight. And the police were like, well, damn,
you know, they're thinking that there really wasn't any time
for him to have committed the crime of doing something
to her, disposing of her and then have all these
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I mean, his whereabouts were very much accounted for. Police
did find out though, through their questioning, that the couple
had a housekeeper and that she kept a very regular
and a very time oriented schedule when she was there,
and she had been their housekeeper for the last nine years.
So she been housekeeping here for a hot minute. It
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wasn't like this was her first rodeo and she didn't
know these people, so they wanted to speak with her
one on one. Her name was Consuelo, which I thought
was so cute and charming. Consuelo the housekeeper. So when
they speak to Consuelo, she come across as very truthful
and very fond of Jana. She said that my boss
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is kind, She's always friendly to me. We have a
great relationship whenever we are around each other. She couldn't
think of anything that was out of the ordinary in
the home, and nothing that seemed strange between the couple
and she had been doing their laundry and cleaning their
house for nine years. The only thing, as they kept going,
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there's nothing out of place, nothing that you can think of.
The only thing that she could even muster up as
even saying it was different, was that she said, well,
you know, I did always, or I do always change
the bedding in the master bedroom on tuesdays. Those are
the days that I changed the bedding. I've always done
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that the entire time that I've cleaned this house. The
only thing that she could think of, after she sat
there and really racked her brain, was that the week prior,
whenever she made the bed, she said that she had
put sheets on the bed that were these white and
black sheets, and they had cursive writing on them. The
words incursive were things like happiness and love and just
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these really happy words that might be incursive on the sheets,
but on the week of Jana's disappearance, which would have
been Tuesday, August fourteenth, she changed the sheets, but she
noticed that they weren't the same ones that she had
put on the week prior. So she did think that
was kind of strange. Usually it's the same sheets she's
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changing that she put on the week prior. Also, she
said there was only a full size flat sheet on
the bed when she went in to change the bedding.
And okay, I'm gonna tell y'all right now, and I
bet you there's some women with me right now. No
offense to the dudes. But as soon as she said
there was only a flat sheet on the bed, I
thought to myself, A man did it? A man is
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involved with this bed change, because no woman that I
know is. Maybe it's where I'm from and how I
was raised, but where I'm from, you better have a
fitted sheet on that damn bed. My grandma would roll
over in her grave, or she would blow around in
her ashes, however you want to call it. But she
would die if she thought that I put just a
flat sheet on a bed. Ain't no way. So when
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I heard that flat sheet, hands down, a man did it.
A man put that sheet on that bed. How many
of y'all agree with me? Y'all got to talk to
me on this one. But right there, I knew man
changed the sheets done. The thing too, was that it
was a queen size bed and that one full sheet
that was laid over the bed on top was a
full size sheet. Those are man signs. Okay, in nine years.
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They had never changed their own sheets in nine years,
so this really caught her attention. And then when she
went to go do the laundry, she didn't see the
sheets in the laundry room either what she expected. You know,
maybe someone threw up, maybe someone had an accident, you know,
may maybe spilled some wine on the bed, but they
weren't in the laundry room either. She also noticed when
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she was cleaning the bathroom that a towel was missing
from the master bath. So I guess they had a
set number of towels and she couldn't find one of them. Okay, well,
maybe that got thrown out because it got stained with
the wine. I don't know, but that's kind of was
another thing she noticed that was missing. So the police
were kind of now wondering if maybe someone had come
into the home and taken Jena. But Jena was taken
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as well as these items that they couldn't find. Maybe
she was hurt and maybe they were covering up the
evidence by taking it with them outside of the outside
of the bedroom. Whoever it was that did this. But
referring back to what Bruce said in his questioning, the
house was locked, the alarm was on, there was no
force to entry to the house. There's no kidnapper in
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America that's gonna go set the alarm when they leave
the house. So on August the seventh of two thousand
and one, Jena had now been missing for a seventh
than full days and the police really had no solid leads.
They knew that she drove a nineteen ninety six white
Pathfinder and guess what it was found. It was called
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in and found on a place called California Street. There
was no purse, no gun, no cell phone in the car,
none of that was there, which were the very items
that Jana would never have left without. So it's like, Okay,
the car is here, Jenna's stuff isn't here. Did she
take it with her and leave the vehicle here? But
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when they searched the vehicle, they did find an item
in the back in the cargo area, and it was
a very simple item. It was a feather. They found
one feather in the back of the car and looking
at it, the detectives felt like that might have been
a pillow, a feather from a pillow, which going back
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and looking at the records, they would find that a
pillow was also missing from the master bed. There was
also in that trunk a very large stain that appeared
to be blood next to where the feather was laying.
So you don't have to be a friggin genius at
this point to know that this is not good what
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they have found. So police felt at this point that
they were no longer looking for Jana alive and that
this was more likely to be a body recovery situation.
So on August thirty first, a search team of over
one hundred and forty people was created to search this
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area near where the vehicle was. And it was a
petroleum field because where this car was parked it wasn't
a good area of town, but the oil fields and
the wells and all of that were in this area.
And in that area there was also a bunch of
really deep holes that from oil exploration, and that would
seem like a really likely place that they possibly whoever
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these people were, could have dumped a body. So they
searched for a very long time with all these people,
but they ended up finding nothing. But sixteen days after
Jana had been gone, this would have been September, the
fifth police conducted another search of the couple's home, and
this time when they went into the house, they came
armed with luminol. And luminol we all know that's basically
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the spray that whenever you spray it down, it will
react with the hemoglobin in blood, and even if it's
invisible to the naked eye, it's going to light up
like a Christmas tree if there's been blood in that area.
They didn't find any, but they only found they didn't
find a bunch of blood. Let me put it that way.
They did find one single drop of blood one and
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it was found on the master bedroom floor and it
was near the bed, which they swapped well, needing some
DNA or something that they could compare this blood too.
They went into the bathroom and they found Jana's hair brush,
which they took the hair for comparison, and lo and behold,
once it came back from the left. That blood droplet,
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just one tiny blood droplet, did match that of janis
Now I'm gonna tell you this, that doesn't mean shit.
That could have been menstrual blood. Sorry, she could have
been undressed putting on her pajamas in the bedroom and
a drop of blood fell out. It could have been
from a small cut on her leg from shaving and
it dripped down on the floor. But the fact that
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when they went and looked in the back of the
car and they swabbed that stain in the back of
the car and they sent that to the lab, that too,
came back as a match for Jana's blood. So the
amount of blood found in the back of that car
led most people to think that she was injured and
or more likely dead, and that her dead body had
been placed in the back of her very own vehicle.
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So maybe one drop alone doesn't mean much, but we
now got a whole lot of blood in the back
of her own vehicle. So Bruce was now really the
only person to have seen her alive the entire weekend.
So the police decided to go back to Bruce and
really focus on him, and they said, all right, man,
you've given us all this information. We appreciate all of
your help, but we would really like to give you
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a polygraph test or a light detector test to sort
out some of the things that you have said. And
he readily agreed, no problem, let's do it. He did ask, though,
when he got there, could he have the questions ahead
of time? Well, no, that would go against any type
of policy, because part of the polygraph is that we
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don't want you to be prepared and able to calm
yourself down or anything. We want to get your genuine
response that your body gives whenever a lie is detected
and your blood pressure goes up and your sweating goes
up in all of that, well whenever, he asked to
have the questions ahead of time, and he was denied.
He then came back and said, look, I spoke to
my attorney and the attorney said that I do not
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need to take this polygraph test. It would not be
in my best interest. He did, though, to decide to
do something, and I want to tell you what that is.
He didn't want to just sit back and wait for
days to continue to pass and his wife's body not
be found, so he didn't take the polygraph test, but
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he did call a local TV station and hold a
press conference, and in that press conference, he offered up
a one hundred thousand dollars reward for Janna's safe return.
And I listened to those interviews. He was very genuine,
he was very concerned, and he was offering up a
whole lot of money to get his wife back. And
there's got to be somebody who knows something was really
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with the idea that he was going off of. And
this press conference got a lot of attention in the community.
Everybody by now knew about this case, and a whole
lot of people wanted to have a good outcome. She
was a good woman and here's her husband pleading and
offering up a ton of cash to bring her home. Well,
it did get a lot of attention. But this attention
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also included a couple of women in the community, and
they all called in because they had had some information
after that award that reward money was put up. They
decided to come forward because they all had very similar stories.
It was kind of interesting. All of them said that
Bruce had asked them out on a date recently. One
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lady we even went in to be super specific. She
worked at the bank where he went. So he went
in and asked her out on a date while he
was doing a bank transaction. Another lady worked at an
escrow office, and he asked her out on a date. Now,
she was quite frank when she said, I wasn't interested
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at all. She was kind of like whenever he asked
her out on the date. And then one day a
neighbor of Bruce and Janis found a note on her vehicle.
It was early morning time, and that note asked her
if her granddaughter would be interested in going out on
a date with him. It wasn't until all of these
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women saw his face on TV though, that they made
the connection to the missing wife situation, and they all realized, well,
maybe we should call in. I'm not saying they called
in for the money. I'm just saying they did make
the connection between the face and being asked out. But
one hundred thous hmm, maybe they called in on that
regard to you know. So every one of them, though,
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said we want to tell this story because this woman
is missing. And they also all said we denied him
a date because every one of them said that he
was creepy, every one of them. So if you're catching
the vibe here I'm trying to give out about this guy.
None of them really liked him, so clearly he wasn't
quite the grieving spouse that he was once thought to be. Well,
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Jana had a friend named Jan. Jana's friend Jan got
to thinking about a conversation that she had with Jana
about wanting a family really bad. She was thinking about
her friend being missing, how horrible this was, and was
kind of reminiscing over some of their last few conversations.
And one of the last conversations they had, Jana said
she was super excited because they were going to be
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adopting a baby. They had filled out the paperwork already,
and when the two women had the conversation, both of
them were very excited about this big change. Jana wasn't able,
for whatever reason, to have a baby of her own,
and so she was so excited that her and Bruce
were finally going to bring this baby that she had
wanted for so long into their home. This was about
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a month or two, I guess before her disappearance. But
a month before she disappeared, Jana was out to eat
again with that friend Jan, and she asked, Hey, how
was the adoption going, How are you excited? Did y'all
find a baby? Is there someone that y'all linked up with?
And Jana surprisingly snapped back at her real quick and said,
there's not going to be an adoption, and that snapback
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wasn't mean though, it was almost like a sex add
defensive snap back towards her friend. And so the friend
kind of looked over and got the feeling that Bruce
was the one that had put a stop to this
whole adoption situation, even though Jan really wanted that, and
Jan also knew that Bruce had not always been a
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really good husband to Jana. This is one of those
things that we all put out a face for people, right,
we all put out an image, But your really really
close friends know more about you than the average bear
would know. And that's where these friends kind of came
into play. Jenna had shared with Jan that she had
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caught Bruce asking other women out in the past, but
they always worked through it, and they worked through these
hard times and they were gonna make their marriage work. Jana, though,
had become increasingly tired of this mundane marriage and the
divide between the two spouses just had continued to widen.
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Jenna wanted a family, and Bruce wanted to chase the
money and build a financial empire. And they really had
come to an impasse about what they were going to
do now in their lives, and they weren't getting along
about it. Come to find out, here's the bell ringer
right here. Each of them each held a one million
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dollar policy on the other spouse. So talking to the neighbors,
that's where they were verified that letter that was found
on the car talking about the cops went and did that.
The cops also found out when talking to the neighbors
that one of them heard a fight between Bruce and
Jenna on Saturday morning and it was loud, like the
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neighbor was able to make it out what was going on.
And then the neighbor said, and then it sounded like
maybe they were moving furniture or something. It just got
to where there was like this rumbling type of noise. Well,
this was now October of two thousand and one. Jena
had been gone now for two months. No one had
heard or seen from her. This is when a caller
calls in and says that I saw a white pathfinder
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parked on California Street. But it was parked in front
of a home about a week before Jannah went missing.
So they asked the caller, Okay, well what about it.
The car was in a different spot, and the caller says, yeah,
and I saw a white person get out dressed in
a white dress shirt and it stood out. This person
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looked really suspicious and that's why it kind of stood
out to the collar. As the caller started putting the
timeline of this woman going missing, and then that pathfinder
and all of it started coming together. So the authorities
did discover that missing car of Jenna's parked in a
vacant garage and that car was in the twenty four
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hundred block of that California avenue. This is the one
I mentioned earlier, and this was in the Signal Hill
area of Long Each, California. Now why do I bring
this up because this is a predominantly black neighborhood. This
is not a mixed neighborhood or one where you would
see white people really walking around. And the caller specifically
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said that he saw a white person get out of
that car and that the car had been parked on
the street. So police decided to put together a few
lineups to see if the caller could id the man
that he saw walking away from the vehicle. One of
the lineups had the personal trainer in it, Dean. One
of the lineups had Bruce the husband in it, and
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then the other one had the business partner, Chris in it,
So all of them were in different lineups, and all
three lineups were shown separately to this person. And it's
important to note this is a good strategy by the
police because if they had put all three of the
men that were potential suspects Dean, Chris the coworker, and
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Bruce the husband, if they had put them all in
the same lineup, then that would leave reasonable doubt I
guess in the eyes of a jury if they looked
at this, because if three people were suspects and three
of them were in a lineup of six people, well
then you could argue, well, of course he picked one
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of the people you think is a suspect. It was
a fifty percent shot. But what they did was they
broke it up to where it was one out of six,
then one out of six, and then one out of six.
So it really made the chances less that this person
would pick someone that could have possibly been a potential
suspect if you didn't realize that. I just wanted to
point it out. So they split them up into these
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three different lineups to decrease that odds of being picked substantially,
And after looking at all three lineups separately, the caller
picked none other than Bruce as the man that he
saw walking away from the vehicle. And this would have
been the Sunday that the two of them were supposedly
home alone having the couple's weekend. So what it kind
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of looked like was that maybe Bruce took the car
purposefully went and left it in a poor, impoverished, traditionally
black neighborhood with the windows down and the keys left
in it. Because the reason I say that is that
later on some people that lived in the neighborhood said, well,
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you know, we saw some neighborhood kids taking a white
pathfinder around for a joy ride that same weekend. So
I mean, what do you think happened. The white man
brings a car, drops it off in a neighborhood where
no white people live, the windows are down, and the
next thing you know, you see kids in the neighborhood
have taken it and they're driving around having the time
of their lives and it it's not rocket science to say, hmm,
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that's probably what happened. So they go and they canvass
the area and they talked to some teenagers and the
teenagers say, yes, we did. We found the suv. It
was unlocked and we thought it was abandoned. They said, okay,
when did you find this car? They said it was
about eight o'clock on August the twentieth. So the boys
said that the car's front windows were rolled down, which
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went along with what the police suspected. They said they
found a purse in it, and that purse had Jana's
wallet in it. They found her cell phone, they found
her keys, and they found a gun, and all of
it was in plain sight, right there for these for
these kids to see. So they said, we kind of
rifled through all of her personal belongings and then we
threw the bag out. They said, okay, well where did
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you throw it out? They said, well, we threw the
bag and the phone on top of one of these
apartment buildings that they pointed out. They said, we sold
the gun and then we took the car for a
joy ride. I mean, hell, we found a free car.
So they were very open and upfront and honest about
what they had done with the stuff. They didn't realize though,
until a week later, that the news was showing the
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very car they're joy riding in, and they realized, oh shit,
this might be linked to some type of murder, and
so they took the car and parked it, and then
they came forward with all of their evidence because they
didn't want to be tied to a murder, like, look,
we didn't have shit to do with this woman, if
she's dead. We just found the car and all the
stuff in it. And according to some local reports that
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I read, there was a local minister who advertised to
that local community, if you will return the gun, I'll
give you one hundred dollars reward. It'll be anonymous if
I can just get the weapon. And I thought, man,
what a great use of our clergy to say, no
questions asked, I'll give you one hundred bucks. Just give
me the gun back so we can figure out what
happened to this lady. Bruce's own step brother also was
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kind of starting to cock his head up and kind
of squint at what his brother had told him about
what was going on he said, you know, my trust
and my belief in Bruce kind of started to feel
really misplaced because a lot of things that were now
happening sure did seem a lot more than coincidence. So
here was the timeline now that they came up with.
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On August eighteenth, into the morning of the nineteenth, around
one thirty ish in the morning, Jenna returned from the concert.
Then early Saturday morning, that's when the neighbors said that
they heard arguing and during that exact same time as
when Bruce claimed that they were sitting down reading and
watching some TV. Then on Sunday he says, oh, yeah,
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we went out for a walk too. Bruce says, we
went out for a walk, we talked to some neighbors,
blah blah, blah blah blah. Well, the police go back
out and they start talking to the neighbors again and
they're like, did you speak with Bruce and what were
all conversations about. But none, none, zero of those neighbors
could ever remember speaking to him. Matter of fact, they
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were very adamant we never spoke to Bruce. And they
added that it was really weird because after the first
time the police talked to the neighbors. Bruce was out
walking and he was making conversations with the neighbors that
he normally didn't make conversation with, and was like, yeah,
remember when I spoke to you on Sunday, And multiple
neighbors were thinking themselves, I didn't talk to you on Sunday.
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I never saw you on Sunday. So the police say, okay, well,
what were the neighbors wearing, Bruce, whenever you went out
and you talked to him on that Sunday, And wouldn't
you know, Bruce couldn't tell them what anybody that he
spoke to was wearing on that Sunday, even though he
was adamant he had spoken to multiple neighbors. So Bruce's
whole thought was that there must have been a carjacking
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or a kidnapping. Maybe the voicemail person was involved. But
all of this was investigated and all of it was
deemed to not be part of what it was going on.
None of the evidence was backing that up. Bruce was
the only one with a motive for Jenna to be gone.
To be gone, their marital assets would have all been his.
There's a million dollar life insurance policy. And then to boot,
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he had the ability to be with all of these
women that Obviously Bruce didn't seem to be grieving Jana
being gone or his wife being missing, because the whole
time that Jenna's missing, he did not take any part
in the search for her. He allegedly, by the way,
I'll say allegedly, but you read through the lines here,
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actually visited prostitutes. He went and visited prostitutes throughout his
marriage too. He had been busted doing this, and he
did not support Jana's wish to adopt a child because
that would have tied him to her permanently after her disappearance.
He then solicited those multiple females and acquaintances for sex,
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which they denied him for the dates. And something else
I found that blew my mind that I never saw
in majority of reporting was what if I told you
he also asked his own eighteen year old niece to
have sex with him. You know what I'm saying, This
dude has way more problems than just not being a
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good husband. And then if she was missing, he wouldn't
have a kid to look out for because he didn't
want to adopt a kid anyway. Divorce would have made
him split it all, murder would have given it to
him all. And police were really honing in now that
he seemed to be the strong one with the motive,
and this was their belief. The police believed that he
killed her Saturday morning. They believe he killed her Saturday
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morning in her bed, possibly while she was asleep. So
they think that he shot her in the head. And
they may have had their fights, but she trusted him
enough to have enough regard for her in her life
to not kill her. But she was dead wrong, painfully wrong.
She went to bed Friday night with plans for the
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next morning of working out and going to get a
massage with her friends and laying next to her the
man that she married and that she loved and they
took vows to love each other for the rest of
their lives, but also the same man who would callous
planned to end her life. All she had to do
was fall asleep first. This is the most this is
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the ultimate betrayal. He shot her, and with her brain decimated,
he then wiped up the headboard with a towel from
their bathroom and then he threw it on top of her,
rolled her up in their marital bed sheets, her bloody
pillow included remember her pillow was missing, and then he
stuffed her in the back of her own car, and
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her body would remain in that garage for a day
or two for that weekend basically, and that's why they
were able to find that large bloody spot. The reality
is kind of gross, but the reality of it is
that police believe and investigators believe that this was purge
from her decomposing body. Basically, your body starts decomposing the
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minute that you die, and eventually your body's going to
release the fluids where it's laying, and so her body
released those fluids in that puddle in the back of
the vehicle. And then Sunday he started up that car
where her dead body had been wrapped up and laying
for two days, and he dumped her body somewhere unknown
before he left the car in a bad neighborhood, hoping
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and praying to frame someone who would steal it. And
you know, it was kids that picked up that car,
and damn it, they weren't right to take that car,
but he was willing to set up people kids in
hopes that they would steal that car so that he
could wash his hands of this, and he easily could
have walked home because where the car was found was
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only four miles from their house. If piece of shit
had a picture in the dictionary, Bruce's face would have
been plaster right there underneath it. All Jennah wanted, y'all
was a family. She wanted a baby, and he couldn't
even give her that basic desire of a woman. No
wonder all the other women were repulsed by him. He's
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not a good man. The woman who was dedicated to
him in all ways, worked with him, built a successful
life with him. All he did was reject her, deny
her a baby, and then destroy her in hopes of
finding a different wife when he got tired of the
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first one. I read that Jenna did all the paperwork,
all of the hard work in the office, the taxes,
the mundane in and out paperwork of business, while Bruce
ran around being the face and the personality of it all.
And that's fitting because hard work was below him, just
a facade of greatness. That's all he could do. It
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took his wife that he humiliated over and over again,
access prostitutes while he was married to her, treated her
like a piece of trash, She's the one doing the
hard work, putting the backbone in the whole business, while
you're over smiling and you sound like her fucking dad
is what he sounds like. And the DA felt like
this was more than enough evidence to warrant an arrest,
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and Bruce was arrested for them of his wife, Jana,
and how financially well off were they all, he could
have divorced her and still lived a good life. You
know how I know that because he was able to
post a one million dollar bail when it was set
he posted it himself. And then on February eighteenth of
two thousand and three, his trial took place. And the
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biggest issue, as I'm sure you can realize, is Jana's
body was never found. It was still missing at the
time of the trial, and this makes it circumstantial at
best this case, and usually whenever there's no body, the
stats are really low in bodyless crime convictions. People want
to have a body, and Bruce really seemed to enjoy
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the fact that Jana was never found. He came across
as very confident in court. He wanted to testify on
his own behalf. Do you know how stupid you have
to be to testify on your own behalf in this
type of case. I know I just said it was circumstantial,
but how confident do you have to be with the
evidence that is against you to this point? But incredibly,
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the deliberation went on for six days, and if you
know anything about a trial, that is not a good
sign for the prosecution. Six days that means we've got
a lot of doubt that they're working through. And when
the jury returned, they announced that they were hopelessly hung
and a mistrial was declared. But do not fret. I'm
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not here to give you bad news. I'm here to
give you justice news. Because the DA decided that he
would not walk away from this case, he decided that
he would try him again, and eight months later, still
convinced that Jana was killed by her husband, this DA
decided to take that case on again. He was convinced
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that Jana was murdered and that someone that someone being
her husband, should be held accountable. The issue that the
juror seemed to feel in the first trial wasn't if
he did it, but why he did it. So in
the new trial, the DA decided to take a whole
new angle. At the prosecution, and he focused more on
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the facts and less on the motive, and the jury
seemed to understand it when it was laid out that way,
because they came back in less than one day with
a guilty verdict. And this is good to hear, okay,
But I want you to know that listening to Jana's
mother's defeat in the media interviews and in the victim
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impact statement, saying things like I wish I could have
her body to do a proper burial is heartbreaking. A
conviction is great, but think about her mama, who doesn't
even have her daughter's body, doesn't even know where her
final resting place is. One thing she says, She said,
you took my daughter, and alongside that, you also took
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her father's desire to live, because y'all, for all her
father's faults, her father loved her and whenever she went missing,
he stopped having the will to even live, to seek treatment,
to even go on because his baby girl was dead.
And you have to still be able to empathize with
that as a daddy. Janna's mother, though, to me, is
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the ultimate loser in all of this. You can't just
help but shake your head and just pity for this woman.
She's dealt with a lot. That's a strong woman for
all that she's been dealing with. He was given fifteen
years to life at sentencing, and he spent his days
now at the California Institution for Men. And I want
you to know he has been up for parole multiple
times since twenty seventeen, and he has been consistently denied
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the opportunity. His most recent denial was in twenty twenty one.
And I say, good, sit your ass right there where
you deserve to be. Only a selfish, heartless, pompous coward
would kill the woman that he vowed to love and
cherished forever and stuff her in the back of her
own car to rot until he could find it safe way,
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in his eyes, to go and dump her. And I
also think of the calculated attempt that he did to
frame someone by placing the car in a high crime area.
To think that some teenagers could have possibly been framed
and charged with Jenna's murder because they stole the car,
which I again will tell you is bad. You don't
steal a car, but they didn't kill her, their dumb
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kids stealing a car. And to know that he thought
that through. A grown man thought that through and was
willing to let some I would argue disadvantaged teams just
by the likes of where they come from. To take
the fall for something he did is just unconscionable. The
path of destruction that this man leaves in the wake
of anyone in anywhere that he touches. All of these
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years to have passed, y'all, and Jenna's body has never
been found. It is twenty twenty five, and somewhere she
lay unclaimed but certainly not unloved, And that man will
not say where he dumped her body. Her mama, her daddy,
and her sister deserved closure to this and they never
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got it. It is the ultimate disrespect, the ultimate when
a daddy hands over the hand of his daughter to
another man to honor and to cherish and to take
care of her, and then he turns around and he
murders her, dumps her body, and then refuses to even
tell you where it is. You're a fucking piece of trash.
The level of disrespect that you were showing that family.
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Jannah wanted to be a mama. She wanted a normal
life with a child to raise as her own, and
that opportunity was stripped from her. She was a kind person,
she was a benefit to society. So we all lost,
is my argument. When she was killed, a best friend
was lost, a daughter was lost, a sister was lost,
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and a mama to a parentless child needing to be
adopted was never a adopted It was a loss. No
one deserves this and all over nothing. And considering Bruce's
legitimate nerd status and his inflated self confidence, I'm beyond
unimpressed that divorce and murder were the only two options
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that he could come up with, and then he chose murder, Like, dude,
you're a walking douchebag and you chose murder as your option.
I mean, hell, I'm just gonna tell you, I don't
get it. Because he was way too busy being rejected
by women to have the audacity to go around and
kill one.