November 30, 2022 • 33 mins
There are times when we doubt ourselves and our capabilities because of other people’s opinion. But if you want to thrive and conquer that self-doubt that’s holding you back, the key to success is finding your true inner voice. Drown out the noise. Believe in yourself and listen to your own inner voice!
And this is what today’s guest is all about. Vanessa Anderson is a former corporate leader turned CEO of her business called, Center of Business Excellence, which specializes in consulting small businesses around the $2 to $3 million mark, who are breaking out of the startup phase and scaling to the next level of growth.
In this episode, Vanessa talks to us about her former corporate life, how she’s thriving in her business as she takes her clients to the next level and how important it is to invest in yourself and find your true inner voice!
Episode Highlights:
- Being in tune with oneself and one’s voice to drown out the “noise”
- Why a lot of startups are stuck in the $2-$3 Million phase
- What it means for Vanessa to be prosperous
- What Vanessa’s thriving business is all about and untethering from self-doubts
- The importance of finding your true inner voice
- How investing in yourself and getting a business coach can accelerate your growth
- Embracing failures and learning from it
- Vanessa’s next big leap and untethering
Get to know her better!
- Connect with Vanessa via LinkedIn at Vanessa Anderson
- Connect with Vanessa via Instagram @vanessaanderson___
Want to chat with others about this episode?
Join the Untethered & Prosperous: Coffee Chats Exclusive Members-Only Podcast here: https://bit.ly/u-and-p-coffee-chats-invite
And this is what today’s guest is all about. Vanessa Anderson is a former corporate leader turned CEO of her business called, Center of Business Excellence, which specializes in consulting small businesses around the $2 to $3 million mark, who are breaking out of the startup phase and scaling to the next level of growth.
In this episode, Vanessa talks to us about her former corporate life, how she’s thriving in her business as she takes her clients to the next level and how important it is to invest in yourself and find your true inner voice!
Episode Highlights:
- Being in tune with oneself and one’s voice to drown out the “noise”
- Why a lot of startups are stuck in the $2-$3 Million phase
- What it means for Vanessa to be prosperous
- What Vanessa’s thriving business is all about and untethering from self-doubts
- The importance of finding your true inner voice
- How investing in yourself and getting a business coach can accelerate your growth
- Embracing failures and learning from it
- Vanessa’s next big leap and untethering
Get to know her better!
- Connect with Vanessa via LinkedIn at Vanessa Anderson
- Connect with Vanessa via Instagram @vanessaanderson___
Want to chat with others about this episode?
Join the Untethered & Prosperous: Coffee Chats Exclusive Members-Only Podcast here: https://bit.ly/u-and-p-coffee-chats-invite
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I don't ever like to say justbe confident because it's so vague, But
at the same time, you haveto just be confident and do it and
go into it. I too wason that side of the table. I
too was feeling that at some point, like I mentioned earlier, is that
I've felt inadequate when I would sitin board rooms and questioning my own judgment
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and my own knowledge and my ownexpertise. And it wasn't until that I
found, like I said, mytrue inner voice. And I think that's
also part of it. In additionto being confident, you have to know
and be in tune with your voiceso that you can step into who you
really are in that and that confidentself so that you can prosper as well.
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Hey, it's way and you're listeningto Untethered and Prosperous, the podcast
where we focus on the two biggestthings passionate, purpose driven entrepreneurs need to
untell to become wildly prosperous and successfullyhappy. And those two huge anchors are
bad money stories and chronic self sabotage. So what we do is have real
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and inspiring conversations with amazing entrepreneurs whohave done just that, So get ready
to get untethered and get prosperous.Hey, it's Wayne, Welcome to another
episode of the Untethered and Prosperous Podcast. We're just all about helping you untethered
from the shackles of what's holding youback, primarily on bad money stories and
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chronic self sabotage, which is basicallyone of the biggest afflictions of any entrepreneur
at some point during their journey ofcreating a prosperous life. And once again
we have an amazing guest that I'mlooking forward to introduce to you and to
share our conversations with you. Now. Vanessa Anderson is her name, and
she is a former corporate leader turnedCEO. Her business is called Center of
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Business Excellence, which specializes in consultingsmall businesses around the two to three million
dollar mark who are breaking out ofthe startup phase and scaling to the next
level of growth. For those ofyou who are there already or are experiencing
that, you probably can feel thatpain already. And because it is a
significant shift or gear shifting of gearsthat needs to happen, so so important
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her role that she plays in thoseentrepreneur lives Now, Vanessa meets unwavering,
steadfast entrepreneurs at the heart of theirwhy. I love that with strategic business
planning, marketing leadership, and customerretention strategies that, once implemented, will
drive massive impact and that a significantreturn on investment. Now, while they
are highly driven and devoted to theirwork, they are missing the mark on
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sustainable business operations that will keep themprofitable. And I think, knowing a
lot of entrepreneurs who are so passionablewhat they do, sometimes the business structures
and systems kind of fall to thewayside, and I think that's where Vanessa
kind of fills that gap, whichis amazing, which is so needed and
helps keep these creative, passionate entrepreneurson their path. Now, after a
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highly successful career leading strategic growth effortsin the digital marketing advertising space including TV,
print and radio for Fortune five hundredcompanies, mentoring and leading teams across
divisions, she stepped into entrepreneurship witha purpose to help other driven business business
owners implement and execute on the fundamentalsrequired to sustain the organization over a period
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of time, regardless of external circumstances, which is amazing because we forget that
life happens, the world happens,and what she does it sounds like right
there, is that she creates abulletproof type of circumstances where business can navigate
those storms that come on her personalside. Vanessa is a proud Latina business
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owner, mom of three boys,often found cheering them on from the sidelines,
which you're going to experience what she'sall about once we get in the
conversation, and a champion for personaldevelopment. She's equally as dedicated to the
game of entrepreneurship and runs her businesslike her boys run the field. Now
what field? We're going to findthat out with consistency, dedication, and
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the commitment to ongoing improvement. Enoughof me reading this bio, Let's bring
on Vanessa. Vanessa, thank youso much for taking the time. Welcome
to the show. Oh my goodness, way, thank you so much for
having me. Can you be myhype man because that was an amazing intro.
It's very uncomfortable, but I meanamazing intro and you are definitely a
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high person. Well, we youknow, we you know. Here's the
thing is that we got a chanceto connect a little bit, and you
know, I've been in this gamelong enough that when I get an opportunity
to at least connect with someone's energy, I just feed off of that.
So it's it's coming from you morethan anything else. So the thing,
so the high that you're feeling,that uncomfortableness, like I was telling you,
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you know, just receive it becausethat's all you. Thank you,
Thank you. I'm receiving it.Very cool. I love it. Now
before we dive into a little bitmore, because I want to hear about
what your boys are doing in thefield and what kind of field, and
all these things about you, let'skind of set the framework and set the
context for our audience. The showis called Untethered and Prosperous, and everybody
has a unique definition. So I'dlove to take successful entrepreneurs like you and
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kind of give people an idea ofhow you uniquely define your world of entrepreneurship.
For example, what does it meanto be untethered? Man? That
is such a good question, wayhonestly, And I've listened to a couple
of other your podcasts to really sitthere and how can I explain this because
it goes so deep to me.It means really being in tune with myself,
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my own self and my voice,and separating the opinions of others,
separating from and whether it's good feedbackor bad feedback, and a lot of
times it can be good feedback thatyou internalize as question your own self.
But at the end of the day, being untethered for me means like being
in tune with myself and being confidentwith the decisions that I make. M
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I love that. So it's kindof like you're you untether yourself from the
opinions of the world, kind oflike the four Agreements type of approach where
good, bad or ugly, itdoesn't matter. You are basically taking everything
with a grain of salt because youknow that's that's the way things are.
And I don't think I don't thinkpeople realize. I mean, like when
they say, don't take things personally, not just for the bad stuff,
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even for the good stuff, tomaintain that core essence of you. Right,
that's right, that's right. Imean you we are so much in
a in a society now in daysand and and growing up is that you
get feedback and opinions, and youcan call it guidance, mentorship or just
plain right opinions and feedback from people, and you hear it so much from
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our angles, and sometimes it candrown your own voice out, making you
kind of paralyze in decisions that youmake, which prevents you from growth.
Yeah, and even if it's goodfeedback or if it's good opinions, right,
I love what you said right there, that it drowns out your own
internal voice because it might be goodfor somebody else, it might be good
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from their perspective, but for you, it maybe just kind of like,
I guess, just one opinion,that's right, that's right exactly. And
I think in the work that youdo, it's so important to help I
mean, I'm sure you've seen ithappen where you help clients get back to
center. In order for them togrow to that next level, they have
to get back to themselves. Right, It's exactly the same situation when I
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work with my clients. The reasonwhy they're so stuck at that two to
three million dollar mark is because they'rein it. They are in it day
to day, and so it's reallyhard for them to kind of pull back
and look at it from the outsidein and just sitting in themselves and saying
Okay, what is going on here? So it's the exact same thing.
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So once you kind of take astep back and just be in tune with
your purpose and your why and whatit is that you're doing and what you
want, you'll start seeing growth immediately. Yeah, and I noticed that you
said, you know the people thatare stuck in that two to three million
dollar mark, And someone might belistening to this and they're six going on
to seven figures, They're like,oh my god, I'd love to be
stuck at that two to three millionmark. And and I've had a few
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clients as well, there are stuck, you know, seven figures, eight
figures, and they're feeling stuck.And that stuck has nothing to do with
the money piece at Stuckness is whenyou're kind of wanting to do more than
the money is just becoming you realizelike money is just like a thing to
facilitate that next level. But ifyou don't know what that next level is,
then you're stuck. That's all right, that's right. And what's key
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about that is self awareness is havingand not a lot and not a lot
of people exercise it, and it'slike a it's a muscle you have to
you have to go out it,you have to practice, you have to
make it a habit so you candevelop that self awareness, right, and
so so your definition of untelling itbasically is about, you know, improving
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the quality of your awareness of selfso to speak. Yes, that's right,
it's perfect. And every level thatyou go, there's more untethering that
needs to happen, right, becauseI'm sure you've gone through that process of
untethering. There's so many layers toit. We'll get to that part in
the second. Yeah. So afterafter you know, the becoming untethered,
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then that then releases you, unshacklesyou from what's holding you back for becoming
prosperous. So what does it meanto be prosperous for you? As it
you know, specifically for you?I mean why would you define the most
prosperous life in the world of Vanessa? So, I mean it's changed over
the years, right, It usedto be well, money and this and
that. But at the end ofthe day, for me, prosperous I
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define as as wealth and wealth canmean money, wealth can mean health.
For me, it's it's health,it's health and joy. That to me
is a prosperous life. Money comesand goes, and for me, it's
important to be not even content,that's not the right word, but just
being in present moment with myself,with my family, and that to me
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is a proper being at peace.And it's such a vague word when I've
heard other people say being at peace, and it's like, you have to
dig deeper. What is really?What is really that mean for you?
That is prosperous is being at peacewith your life, with yourself and just
being in the moment and being joyful. Yeah. Yeah, And I love
that because sometimes, you know,believe it or not, there are people
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who have been perceived by the worldaround them to be prosperously successful and then
you ask them what prosperity means,and there's still that association with money,
and it's so much more than that, right because the money piece, I
mean, I think it's because thisskewed perception of the world through capitalism in
modern day times, right, wherewhere prosperity is money, right when in
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fact money is simply just a toolto create a prosperous side. And that's
why I love asking this question becauseeverybody has a different definition of it.
Right for you if because if youdidn't have kids, your definition of family
and prosperity is different than some havekids, right, yes, yeah,
well, but but that's what makesit so great. Sorry didn't mean to,
but that's what makes it so greatis is what a prosperous means to
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me means different for you. Andthat's still that's still amazing, that's beautiful,
right because we're all in a differentstage of life and and um,
and it's important so for you toknow that prosperity, prosperity means for you
different for me, but doesn't meanthat it's wrong, you know what you
think? Yeah, it's like honorthe differences, right, yes, And
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more importantly, like you know,peace is also different, right because the
household, some people would think ahouse full of three boys, where can
you find peace in that? Right? And at the same time there is
peace just like that. You knowwhen people talk about the family, A
lot of people find peace when there'sa lot of family together. It's the
holidays and you're just kind of inthat warm, fuzzy, peaceful place.
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But it doesn't mean it's dead quietin the house. It's like everybody's it's
like a hum of like love andjoy and happiness and all those different things,
right, and that could be adefinition of piece. So I'd love
to have we opened up that conversationabout that, and hopefully if you're listening
to this, that you are reallythinking about Okay, great, well,
let me revisit that. And Ilove that you said that it changes as
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you progress into life, I mean, and as it should. A lot
of people think that once you defind it, it's like etched and stone.
You can't change it. It's likeno, And I think that's what
keeps people from really committing to anydefinition of what it means to be prosperous.
Yes, so good, yea,yeah, really good stuff. Okay,
great, Well, then now thatwe set that in place, let's
talk about where you are in businesstoday. What have you done you know,
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how your journey to creating the successyou have today, and more importantly,
what did you have to untether fromto achieve what you have today?
Okay? So I feel like there'sa couple different undethered layers here, So
I'm just going to dive right intoit. Um. Okay, So the
business now, um, it's ayou know, I'm a I'm in a
consultant capacity for businesses. And Ididn't start out like that. I started
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out doing it done for you servicesagency, UM. And I was in
agency life for quite some time UMbefore I went into corporate world. And
UM, I found I was goodat it. Right, just because you're
good at something doesn't mean that youlove what you do. I was good
at it. But then as Igrew in my career and I was mentored
and guided, UM, it cameout that I that, you know,
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I had strengths in other areas toothat I was unsure of. And I'm
like, I don't know, youknow. So I went into corporate America
and I sat. I would sitin these boardrooms with C C suite level
executives and I would question my ownself and my own knowledge, and I
would say, what do I Whatam I doing here? I shouldn't even
be in here, But I earnedmy spot and they're moving up the ranks.
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UM. But it was that own, my own story that I was
telling myself in that imposter syndrome andthat self doubt, honestly, And it's
funny because I wasn't raised that wayat all. But when you get to
certain when you reach certain certain benchmarksif you want to call it success.
In success and your career path andyour entrepreneurship journey in business, you still
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do feel like am I really qualifiedto do this type of thing? You
know? So that's one piece thatI had to definitely untether myself from where
I'm still doing it. And nowthe business is more of an a consultant
angle where I work with businesses oneon one whether rather than doing the work
for them, we collaborate together instrategic annual planning, business planning and growth
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so that they can get unstuck.So it's more of a consultant that's where
the business is at today. LikeI said, it didn't start there.
Yeah, And I think and andlooking at you and you know, we
use a technology that's based on physicsand quantum mechanics and everything like that,
and just looking at you, Ican tell that that's stepping more and more
into your unique flow of success morethan advisory role where wisdom flows from you,
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right, collaborative and it's it's inits expression, so to speak.
And I think that's a that's that'sso it's so it's so cool because even
without the technology we use, youwere able to still find that out.
Do you think it's from the untattheringthat needed to happen because I was told
and from another guest a couple ofinterviews ago, where you know, imposter
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syndrome she realized was just part ofthe journey of growth that you will experience
that regard no matter what. Right. I can see that, absolutely,
I can definitely see that, andI do think that I'm going to still
continue experiencing. I don't think you'llever you know, be cured from imposter
syndrome. So, like I said, it's once you reach certain points in
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your journey, do you feel like, Okay, this is uncharted territory,
this is completely new for me.Um. But yeah, I completely agree
with that statement. And UM alot also has to do with with you
know, your upbringing, your past, and how you all your life experiences.
Um, it's a culmination of allof that. So definitely, and
being first generation natural born US citizenhere, there's definitely some pressure there and
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be okay, there you go.So you know, there was a lot
of navigating that I had to do, and you know, with the culture
and culture of differences as well andexpectations from your family so you know,
I think it has a lot todo with that, and I'll continue to
still have Imposter's side, but I'mjust going to need to kind of own
it, right, just kind ofyou can sit in it, sit in
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it, and then move on fromit. But the key is definitely moving
on right, I think, andespecially for people like us who are who
are committed to growing beyond what weknew growing up. Every time we step
into an unknown there's a sense ofjust questioning, what is this new identity
that I'm stepping into? What isthis new version of myself that is stepping
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in debt? I had no frameof reference from my past growing up of
that. So that quote unquote impossasyndrome is basically you're you're dawning on a
new version that you have absolutely noexperience around. And that's why there's that
questioning piece, right, It's like, do I really belong here? Now?
How long have you had this consultancyor this this been an entrepreneur?
Actually? So I left? Um, I left Corporate America in twenty nineteen.
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Twenty twenty nineteen. Cool, yeah, so I mean not too long
ago. And then in twenty nineteen, you know, I like I said,
I did the done for you servicesagency, and I realized fairly quickly,
I want to say, like maybesix months in that I'm like,
this is not this is not whatI wouldn't what I want to do.
So I continue to my commitments andthen I slowly shifted the business into more
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consulting rather than it done for youagency. Wow. And so two thousand
nine here I am like going,oh, twenty years three two thousand nineteen.
In that short period of time,you being able to create six six
bigger plus level success and chargetting avery seasoned audience. And I think it's
also because if you know what youdid in the corporate world that facilitated that,
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but the courage to be able todo that, I have to say
that there's a lot of people outthere who who use that as a reason
to not step into that more powerfully. I'm sure you've seen that as well.
What do you say to people whowho Because it sounds like because based
on how you're talking about your expertiseand how you show up, obviously there's
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a lot of confidence there. Butif had you not told me twenty nineteen,
I would have said at least adecade or so in terms of experience
to do right. So, sowhat do you say to people who are
who have just as much wisdom,just as much to offer, and yet
are using the reason so to speakof Oh well, I'm just getting started.
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I can't play the bigger game justyet. Yeah, I say to
them, it's so simple, becauseI've had that question asked to me in
my DMS or in conversations with otherpeople, and I don't I don't ever
like to say just be confident becauseit's so vague. But at the same
time, you have to just beconfident and do it and go into it.
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I too was on that side ofthe table. I too was feeling
that at some point, like Imentioned earlier, is that I've felt inadequate
when I would sit in boardrooms andquestioning my own judgment and my own knowledge
and my own expertise. And itwasn't until that I found, like I
said, my true inner voice.And I think that's also part of it.
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In addition to being confident, youhave to know and be in tune
with your voice so that you canstep into who you really are in that
and that confident self, so thatyou can prosper as well. Now,
did you navigate that alone and justfigured it out with a bunch of self
help books, or did you knowinvest in yourself so to speak to make
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that happen. I did a thousandpercent. I'm a huge proponent and a
big fan of investing in yourself.I hired coaches, I had mentors along
the way, and I was alsoreally open to feedback. It's really hard
pill to swallow sometimes when you're gettingcritiqued on it is, and I learned
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throughout the years to really take whatI need to take to improve on.
And if I felt strongly about anotherpiece that they were critiquing me on that
I just didn't agree with, that, I would just you know, say
okay, thank you and move forwardto take what I needed to take.
So I did. I invested ina coach as well. I hired help
for me. I'm not an expertin everything, but I do know my
strength so that I can help.You know, I can bring in other
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people that are experts and other areasthat I'm weakened. So it's also realizing
where your area of expertises and whereyou truly can blossom in, and other
areas that you just need to comein and have some refinement, needs some
help in. Yeah. No,I love that, and it's it's so
it's so interesting. I don't thinka lot of people realize the most successful
people in this world. They don't. I mean, I don't think I'll
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ever be without a coach ever againin my life. I just it's just
not worth it to me. No, no, you know, And you
know, at one point it wasI went a little overboard. I had
like seven or I like eight coachesat you know, at one point in
time, all at the same Ispent more time. It's like a full
time job going from one coach tothe other. And I was okay,
I got to scale back a littlebit of this. I became addicted to
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being coached. It's a thing,a true thing. But it helped me
accelltate. I accept at a veryhyper fast pace because that's what I wanted.
And it was interesting too. Iremember years ago I went to Google
to pitch a wellness program and Iwas I was so inspiring to find that
the majority of the top executives thereall had their own private personal coach to
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work with them and to help themcontended stay on point with things. And
and then if you look at youknow where Google is today. I mean
this is back when Google was justkind of like people are like Google,
what, why? What does that? What do you mean Google? You
know, And they were still prettybig already. And I had friends who
are working there, and I hada college classmates that actually went to work
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there, and they said, theycome on by visit me. I'm like,
okay, um, but um,but yeah, it's it's it's fascinating
you see that, and it's it'sa great reminder that yes, when we
invest in ourselves, that's probably thebest investment we can ever make, right
one thousand percent. And they andeven then talking about Google and back then
they were able to recognize it inthe early days how important it is to
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have someone to help you grow andsucceed. You can't go at it alone.
You just cannot. And M andI also take a lot of my
principles and foundations and what I believein and how I conduct business is also
how athletes And you know, I'ma big sports mom, so I correlate
a lot of business to sports andhow athletes invest in themselves so that they
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can be the best. Um.They invest in wellness and in health and
in training. The good ones,successful ones. There are those that don't
just like anything else, like they'reentrepreneurs that don't invest in themselves and they
just grind it out and they burnedout. That's right, right. That's
the same thing with athletes. Youknow, I was an athlete in college,
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and it was it was one ofthose things where I look back and
as much as I did not likemy coach, I don't know if if
I would have done well without mycoach. See yeah, well how it
ould have worked right? Right?Right? So, speaking of the sports
thing, is that because of yourpersonal life or you're into sports, or
you have clients that are athletes,or is it just your boys that are
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just really getting you into this forcething. I mean, I you know,
I played soccer all throughout high school, you know, middle school,
high school. I didn't play incollege, but you know I was.
I went to school and I wasaround football and all those college sports.
So it was kind of always inmy life. And then it wasn't until
when I had my boys that theywere actively actively involved in sports. And
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I will well know they play football, they play football and baseball. So
a completely different sports. I hadto learn it. I had to learn
it. So that was also,Yeah, I hired, not really hired,
but yeah, I had a coachon the side. For me,
it's like, what was that play? You know what it was? The
flag that they called? So Ican learn, but I did. Yeah,
And I honestly, I truly enjoywatching the development of youth in sports
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because it teaches so much. Itreally does. You learn a lot about
yourself. I can see it happeningin front of my eyes with my boys
and my oldest one specifically, he'sfifteen, and I can see his development
coming through, and you know,he's recognizing his strengths and his weaknesses and
I'm just here kind of a guidehim. But he also has amazing coaches
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and trainers to help them along theway too. Yeah, because everybody brings
something different and unique perspectives at thetable, and the more opportunities they have
to see all facets of one topicor one thing, then the better,
right, that's right, voices,you have options, you do have awareness.
Yes, that's oh, that's huge, that's huge. It is.
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And you know, for years Iused that athletic mindset and then I blended
into the work that I do formy clients just to kind of especially those
that were never athletes. You know, it was like a whole new concept
what it means to be competitive andwhat it means compete with yourself, right,
what it means to set like goalsand standards of excellence, you know,
and performance and having a coach andall those different things. Yeah,
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and absolutely, and not only that, but there's another side to it too,
where you can be competitive with yourself. But and then that's a great
you know, that's a that's agreat thing to have, but also the
awareness to recognize, okay, greatwhere you you either missed this game,
you didn't, you lose, youlost, or something happened where it fell
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through reconnys and be okay with it. You're not always going to win.
And that's also another side that weneed to recognize, not only in athletes
and in personal life, but alsoin business too and in success in general.
You're not going to win at everything. Being okay with it and learning
from that so that you can continuemoving forward. But it's that self awareness
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piece. Yeah, I think sportsis so important because we realize that failure
is part of the journey. Youknow, not always winning is part of
the journey. I know people whoare naturally gifted with athleticism and they don't
lose very often. And when theyfinally hit this next echelon of performance and
they're no longer the big fish ina small pond, and they lose,
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and they lose and they lose,they a lot of them go into a
dark place because they have never experiencedthat level of humility. And I see
it as an opportunity because you know, one of the things I say to
all my students and clients is thatwe learn nothing from our successes, but
we learn everything from our failures.Yeah. Sarah Blakely said it best.
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Um. She was on a Tedtalk, I believe, and she said
that her dad used to ask heronce a week, what did you fail
out this week? I think that'ssuch a huge, great question to ask,
especially with kids and even to ourselves. You know, um, okay,
where where did I fall short onthis week? Or what did I
fall short on? And just doa little bit of self reflection because it's
going to happen, It's inevitable,and you know what, and a question
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like that, when done right,I think from a parenting perspective, is
such a loving opener, a conversationopener. Yes, I mean obviously if
you use it as a way tomake your kid feel bad, then that's
that's not the right way. No, no goodness, that would have been
the way my dad would do.It's like, where did you fail at?
Oh you're terrible? Yeah, trustme, I get that. Oh
my goodness. Well that's a storyto talk about there, but yeah,
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that's for another episode. So sothis is so very cool. Um,
what I want to ask now isbasically, as we as we approached the
end to our of this timeline,I wish we had more time. But
so so now that you, Imean, in just a short period of
time, you've achieved this level ofsuccess, there's obviously something next, the
next big leap. What would yousay that that next big leap is?
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And more importantly, what is thatnext big untethering that you know that needs
to happen in order for that tothat leap to be accomplished? You know,
like if that if that piece wasn'tthere, like you'd be there already
type of thing. Yeah, Um, well, the next big piece for
me, I want to impact moreentrepreneurs and more businesses, UM, and
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do it at scale and UM,and then not only you know, go
wider, but also go deeper intotheir company. And in order to do
that, UM, it's likely goingto look in the form of investing being
an investor in companies as well.And UM, that is a that is
a a territory I've never even thoughtof in my life. And so for
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me to be able to get ifI could have been there already, I
need to untether from a specific justdoubt in understanding financials. One of my
weaknesses is really understanding like numbers,accounting numbers, and that's something that you
kind of need to know to bean investor, right And I'm being real
and raw right now, so youknow, I mean not only but part
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of it too. So and alot of that is just oh well,
I'm just I'm just not good atthat. I'm just not good at that.
Or I sucked at math, orI sucked at science and you're growing
up and you always said that.So now it's like, all right,
Vanessa, I mean, but youcould do this. You can learn the
basics and then you can get there. So it's making sure that I feel
confident in myself because then it's alsogoing to exude off whenever I want to
have investor meetings and stuff and potentiallyinvest into a company. So that is
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the next step for me, andI'm excited a little nervous because it is
also taking big risks, you know, with money, with money, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, there's some interestingmoney stories that are popping up.
It sounds like, and you know, I have a not now, but
I mean I have a few.I have a few clients that have gone
through exactly that, and they madethat choice of becoming an investor by more
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deeply involved with their clients. Andthat says a lot about you, is
that you're You're true, you believein them so much that you're willing to
invest in them as well, andthat you know, with the right business
model in place, in structure inplace, could be a win win situation
for across the board. So reallyexcited to hear that about it. And
because I've seen that path done before, I'm I'm super excited about what will
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potentially unfold for you. Thank you, thank you, I'm excited, thank
you. Love that so um So, now here's a part where you know
people are listening. It's like,oh my god, I love her.
I love her energy, I lovewhat she's all about, I love what
she's saying. What is the bestway for someone who isn't has been inspired
by you from listening to you,to connect with you or to even experience
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a little bit more of you.What's the best way for them to do
that? Yeah, so they can, they can connect with me. I
am always on social, So Instagramis the best way to connect with me.
Um, they can go on LinkedIn. You know, I have a
website, but how many people aregoing on websites? So you just top
on you know, Instagram and Facebookand connect with me there. So,
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um, you can find me onInstagram at Vanessa Anderson Underscore and then on
LinkedIn as just Vanessa Anderson as well. So those are the two best places
to connect with me on Okay,very cool. So if you want to
connect with Vanessa, you click onthe links below. All the details will
be there, even her website,even if you don't want to. You
know, if it's like whatever,people go to my website because all all
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the episodes are there, so theygo they're actually to listen to stuff.
Here. You go and then goto his website for sure. Yeah,
and then you'll see the links toher to her website is because of one
big, happy family. So butyeah, definitely connect with there. There's
so much more I want to askyou, but again, time seems to
be this weird constraint. But youknow, if you're open to have another
conversation down the road, especially whenthings unfold to that next level. Would
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love to have you come back onif you would want to come back,
I'd love to. I'd love to. Yeah, very cool. Well,
definitely connect with Vanessa again. Venessa, thank you so much for taking the
time to come on, so muchto share, and there's so many layers
of nuggets of wisdom and just kindof your journey and the realism. Appreciate
you so much. Thank you somuch. Way, I appreciate the time.
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I don't ever like to say justbe confident because it's so vague, But
at the same time, you haveto just be confident and do it and
go into it. I too wason that side of the table. I
too was feeling that at some point, like I mentioned earlier, is that
I've felt inadequate when I would sitin board rooms and questioning my own judgment
(00:25):
and my own knowledge and my ownexpertise. And it wasn't until that I
found, like I said, mytrue inner voice. And I think that's
also part of it. In additionto being confident, you have to know
and be in tune with your voiceso that you can step into who you
really are in that and that confidentself so that you can prosper as well.
(00:50):
Hey, it's way and you're listeningto Untethered and Prosperous, the podcast
where we focus on the two biggestthings passionate, purpose driven entrepreneurs need to
untell to become wildly prosperous and successfullyhappy. And those two huge anchors are
bad money stories and chronic self sabotage. So what we do is have real
(01:11):
and inspiring conversations with amazing entrepreneurs whohave done just that, So get ready
to get untethered and get prosperous.Hey, it's Wayne, Welcome to another
episode of the Untethered and Prosperous Podcast. We're just all about helping you untethered
from the shackles of what's holding youback, primarily on bad money stories and
(01:34):
chronic self sabotage, which is basicallyone of the biggest afflictions of any entrepreneur
at some point during their journey ofcreating a prosperous life. And once again
we have an amazing guest that I'mlooking forward to introduce to you and to
share our conversations with you. Now. Vanessa Anderson is her name, and
she is a former corporate leader turnedCEO. Her business is called Center of
(01:57):
Business Excellence, which specializes in consultingsmall businesses around the two to three million
dollar mark who are breaking out ofthe startup phase and scaling to the next
level of growth. For those ofyou who are there already or are experiencing
that, you probably can feel thatpain already. And because it is a
significant shift or gear shifting of gearsthat needs to happen, so so important
(02:19):
her role that she plays in thoseentrepreneur lives Now, Vanessa meets unwavering,
steadfast entrepreneurs at the heart of theirwhy. I love that with strategic business
planning, marketing leadership, and customerretention strategies that, once implemented, will
drive massive impact and that a significantreturn on investment. Now, while they
are highly driven and devoted to theirwork, they are missing the mark on
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sustainable business operations that will keep themprofitable. And I think, knowing a
lot of entrepreneurs who are so passionablewhat they do, sometimes the business structures
and systems kind of fall to thewayside, and I think that's where Vanessa
kind of fills that gap, whichis amazing, which is so needed and
helps keep these creative, passionate entrepreneurson their path. Now, after a
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highly successful career leading strategic growth effortsin the digital marketing advertising space including TV,
print and radio for Fortune five hundredcompanies, mentoring and leading teams across
divisions, she stepped into entrepreneurship witha purpose to help other driven business business
owners implement and execute on the fundamentalsrequired to sustain the organization over a period
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of time, regardless of external circumstances, which is amazing because we forget that
life happens, the world happens,and what she does it sounds like right
there, is that she creates abulletproof type of circumstances where business can navigate
those storms that come on her personalside. Vanessa is a proud Latina business
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owner, mom of three boys,often found cheering them on from the sidelines,
which you're going to experience what she'sall about once we get in the
conversation, and a champion for personaldevelopment. She's equally as dedicated to the
game of entrepreneurship and runs her businesslike her boys run the field. Now
what field? We're going to findthat out with consistency, dedication, and
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the commitment to ongoing improvement. Enoughof me reading this bio, Let's bring
on Vanessa. Vanessa, thank youso much for taking the time. Welcome
to the show. Oh my goodness, way, thank you so much for
having me. Can you be myhype man because that was an amazing intro.
It's very uncomfortable, but I meanamazing intro and you are definitely a
(04:34):
high person. Well, we youknow, we you know. Here's the
thing is that we got a chanceto connect a little bit, and you
know, I've been in this gamelong enough that when I get an opportunity
to at least connect with someone's energy, I just feed off of that.
So it's it's coming from you morethan anything else. So the thing,
so the high that you're feeling,that uncomfortableness, like I was telling you,
(04:55):
you know, just receive it becausethat's all you. Thank you,
Thank you. I'm receiving it.Very cool. I love it. Now
before we dive into a little bitmore, because I want to hear about
what your boys are doing in thefield and what kind of field, and
all these things about you, let'skind of set the framework and set the
context for our audience. The showis called Untethered and Prosperous, and everybody
has a unique definition. So I'dlove to take successful entrepreneurs like you and
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kind of give people an idea ofhow you uniquely define your world of entrepreneurship.
For example, what does it meanto be untethered? Man? That
is such a good question, wayhonestly, And I've listened to a couple
of other your podcasts to really sitthere and how can I explain this because
it goes so deep to me.It means really being in tune with myself,
(05:44):
my own self and my voice,and separating the opinions of others,
separating from and whether it's good feedbackor bad feedback, and a lot of
times it can be good feedback thatyou internalize as question your own self.
But at the end of the day, being untethered for me means like being
in tune with myself and being confidentwith the decisions that I make. M
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I love that. So it's kindof like you're you untether yourself from the
opinions of the world, kind oflike the four Agreements type of approach where
good, bad or ugly, itdoesn't matter. You are basically taking everything
with a grain of salt because youknow that's that's the way things are.
And I don't think I don't thinkpeople realize. I mean, like when
they say, don't take things personally, not just for the bad stuff,
(06:30):
even for the good stuff, tomaintain that core essence of you. Right,
that's right, that's right. Imean you we are so much in
a in a society now in daysand and and growing up is that you
get feedback and opinions, and youcan call it guidance, mentorship or just
plain right opinions and feedback from people, and you hear it so much from
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our angles, and sometimes it candrown your own voice out, making you
kind of paralyze in decisions that youmake, which prevents you from growth.
Yeah, and even if it's goodfeedback or if it's good opinions, right,
I love what you said right there, that it drowns out your own
internal voice because it might be goodfor somebody else, it might be good
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from their perspective, but for you, it maybe just kind of like,
I guess, just one opinion,that's right, that's right exactly. And
I think in the work that youdo, it's so important to help I
mean, I'm sure you've seen ithappen where you help clients get back to
center. In order for them togrow to that next level, they have
to get back to themselves. Right, It's exactly the same situation when I
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work with my clients. The reasonwhy they're so stuck at that two to
three million dollar mark is because they'rein it. They are in it day
to day, and so it's reallyhard for them to kind of pull back
and look at it from the outsidein and just sitting in themselves and saying
Okay, what is going on here? So it's the exact same thing.
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So once you kind of take astep back and just be in tune with
your purpose and your why and whatit is that you're doing and what you
want, you'll start seeing growth immediately. Yeah, and I noticed that you
said, you know the people thatare stuck in that two to three million
dollar mark, And someone might belistening to this and they're six going on
to seven figures, They're like,oh my god, I'd love to be
stuck at that two to three millionmark. And and I've had a few
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clients as well, there are stuck, you know, seven figures, eight
figures, and they're feeling stuck.And that stuck has nothing to do with
the money piece at Stuckness is whenyou're kind of wanting to do more than
the money is just becoming you realizelike money is just like a thing to
facilitate that next level. But ifyou don't know what that next level is,
then you're stuck. That's all right, that's right. And what's key
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about that is self awareness is havingand not a lot and not a lot
of people exercise it, and it'slike a it's a muscle you have to
you have to go out it,you have to practice, you have to
make it a habit so you candevelop that self awareness, right, and
so so your definition of untelling itbasically is about, you know, improving
(09:03):
the quality of your awareness of selfso to speak. Yes, that's right,
it's perfect. And every level thatyou go, there's more untethering that
needs to happen, right, becauseI'm sure you've gone through that process of
untethering. There's so many layers toit. We'll get to that part in
the second. Yeah. So afterafter you know, the becoming untethered,
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then that then releases you, unshacklesyou from what's holding you back for becoming
prosperous. So what does it meanto be prosperous for you? As it
you know, specifically for you?I mean why would you define the most
prosperous life in the world of Vanessa? So, I mean it's changed over
the years, right, It usedto be well, money and this and
that. But at the end ofthe day, for me, prosperous I
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define as as wealth and wealth canmean money, wealth can mean health.
For me, it's it's health,it's health and joy. That to me
is a prosperous life. Money comesand goes, and for me, it's
important to be not even content,that's not the right word, but just
being in present moment with myself,with my family, and that to me
(10:09):
is a proper being at peace.And it's such a vague word when I've
heard other people say being at peace, and it's like, you have to
dig deeper. What is really?What is really that mean for you?
That is prosperous is being at peacewith your life, with yourself and just
being in the moment and being joyful. Yeah. Yeah, And I love
that because sometimes, you know,believe it or not, there are people
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who have been perceived by the worldaround them to be prosperously successful and then
you ask them what prosperity means,and there's still that association with money,
and it's so much more than that, right because the money piece, I
mean, I think it's because thisskewed perception of the world through capitalism in
modern day times, right, wherewhere prosperity is money, right when in
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fact money is simply just a toolto create a prosperous side. And that's
why I love asking this question becauseeverybody has a different definition of it.
Right for you if because if youdidn't have kids, your definition of family
and prosperity is different than some havekids, right, yes, yeah,
well, but but that's what makesit so great. Sorry didn't mean to,
but that's what makes it so greatis is what a prosperous means to
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me means different for you. Andthat's still that's still amazing, that's beautiful,
right because we're all in a differentstage of life and and um,
and it's important so for you toknow that prosperity, prosperity means for you
different for me, but doesn't meanthat it's wrong, you know what you
think? Yeah, it's like honorthe differences, right, yes, And
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more importantly, like you know,peace is also different, right because the
household, some people would think ahouse full of three boys, where can
you find peace in that? Right? And at the same time there is
peace just like that. You knowwhen people talk about the family, A
lot of people find peace when there'sa lot of family together. It's the
holidays and you're just kind of inthat warm, fuzzy, peaceful place.
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But it doesn't mean it's dead quietin the house. It's like everybody's it's
like a hum of like love andjoy and happiness and all those different things,
right, and that could be adefinition of piece. So I'd love
to have we opened up that conversationabout that, and hopefully if you're listening
to this, that you are reallythinking about Okay, great, well,
let me revisit that. And Ilove that you said that it changes as
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you progress into life, I mean, and as it should. A lot
of people think that once you defind it, it's like etched and stone.
You can't change it. It's likeno, And I think that's what
keeps people from really committing to anydefinition of what it means to be prosperous.
Yes, so good, yea,yeah, really good stuff. Okay,
great, Well, then now thatwe set that in place, let's
talk about where you are in businesstoday. What have you done you know,
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how your journey to creating the successyou have today, and more importantly,
what did you have to untether fromto achieve what you have today?
Okay? So I feel like there'sa couple different undethered layers here, So
I'm just going to dive right intoit. Um. Okay, So the
business now, um, it's ayou know, I'm a I'm in a
consultant capacity for businesses. And Ididn't start out like that. I started
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out doing it done for you servicesagency, UM. And I was in
agency life for quite some time UMbefore I went into corporate world. And
UM, I found I was goodat it. Right, just because you're
good at something doesn't mean that youlove what you do. I was good
at it. But then as Igrew in my career and I was mentored
and guided, UM, it cameout that I that, you know,
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I had strengths in other areas toothat I was unsure of. And I'm
like, I don't know, youknow. So I went into corporate America
and I sat. I would sitin these boardrooms with C C suite level
executives and I would question my ownself and my own knowledge, and I
would say, what do I Whatam I doing here? I shouldn't even
be in here, But I earnedmy spot and they're moving up the ranks.
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UM. But it was that own, my own story that I was
telling myself in that imposter syndrome andthat self doubt, honestly, And it's
funny because I wasn't raised that wayat all. But when you get to
certain when you reach certain certain benchmarksif you want to call it success.
In success and your career path andyour entrepreneurship journey in business, you still
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do feel like am I really qualifiedto do this type of thing? You
know? So that's one piece thatI had to definitely untether myself from where
I'm still doing it. And nowthe business is more of an a consultant
angle where I work with businesses oneon one whether rather than doing the work
for them, we collaborate together instrategic annual planning, business planning and growth
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so that they can get unstuck.So it's more of a consultant that's where
the business is at today. LikeI said, it didn't start there.
Yeah, And I think and andlooking at you and you know, we
use a technology that's based on physicsand quantum mechanics and everything like that,
and just looking at you, Ican tell that that's stepping more and more
into your unique flow of success morethan advisory role where wisdom flows from you,
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right, collaborative and it's it's inits expression, so to speak.
And I think that's a that's that'sso it's so it's so cool because even
without the technology we use, youwere able to still find that out.
Do you think it's from the untattheringthat needed to happen because I was told
and from another guest a couple ofinterviews ago, where you know, imposter
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syndrome she realized was just part ofthe journey of growth that you will experience
that regard no matter what. Right. I can see that, absolutely,
I can definitely see that, andI do think that I'm going to still
continue experiencing. I don't think you'llever you know, be cured from imposter
syndrome. So, like I said, it's once you reach certain points in
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your journey, do you feel like, Okay, this is uncharted territory,
this is completely new for me.Um. But yeah, I completely agree
with that statement. And UM alot also has to do with with you
know, your upbringing, your past, and how you all your life experiences.
Um, it's a culmination of allof that. So definitely, and
being first generation natural born US citizenhere, there's definitely some pressure there and
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be okay, there you go.So you know, there was a lot
of navigating that I had to do, and you know, with the culture
and culture of differences as well andexpectations from your family so you know,
I think it has a lot todo with that, and I'll continue to
still have Imposter's side, but I'mjust going to need to kind of own
it, right, just kind ofyou can sit in it, sit in
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it, and then move on fromit. But the key is definitely moving
on right, I think, andespecially for people like us who are who
are committed to growing beyond what weknew growing up. Every time we step
into an unknown there's a sense ofjust questioning, what is this new identity
that I'm stepping into? What isthis new version of myself that is stepping
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in debt? I had no frameof reference from my past growing up of
that. So that quote unquote impossasyndrome is basically you're you're dawning on a
new version that you have absolutely noexperience around. And that's why there's that
questioning piece, right, It's like, do I really belong here? Now?
How long have you had this consultancyor this this been an entrepreneur?
Actually? So I left? Um, I left Corporate America in twenty nineteen.
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Twenty twenty nineteen. Cool, yeah, so I mean not too long
ago. And then in twenty nineteen, you know, I like I said,
I did the done for you servicesagency, and I realized fairly quickly,
I want to say, like maybesix months in that I'm like,
this is not this is not whatI wouldn't what I want to do.
So I continue to my commitments andthen I slowly shifted the business into more
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consulting rather than it done for youagency. Wow. And so two thousand
nine here I am like going,oh, twenty years three two thousand nineteen.
In that short period of time,you being able to create six six
bigger plus level success and chargetting avery seasoned audience. And I think it's
also because if you know what youdid in the corporate world that facilitated that,
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but the courage to be able todo that, I have to say
that there's a lot of people outthere who who use that as a reason
to not step into that more powerfully. I'm sure you've seen that as well.
What do you say to people whowho Because it sounds like because based
on how you're talking about your expertiseand how you show up, obviously there's
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a lot of confidence there. Butif had you not told me twenty nineteen,
I would have said at least adecade or so in terms of experience
to do right. So, sowhat do you say to people who are
who have just as much wisdom,just as much to offer, and yet
are using the reason so to speakof Oh well, I'm just getting started.
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I can't play the bigger game justyet. Yeah, I say to
them, it's so simple, becauseI've had that question asked to me in
my DMS or in conversations with otherpeople, and I don't I don't ever
like to say just be confident becauseit's so vague. But at the same
time, you have to just beconfident and do it and go into it.
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I too was on that side ofthe table. I too was feeling
that at some point, like Imentioned earlier, is that I've felt inadequate
when I would sit in boardrooms andquestioning my own judgment and my own knowledge
and my own expertise. And itwasn't until that I found, like I
said, my true inner voice.And I think that's also part of it.
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In addition to being confident, youhave to know and be in tune
with your voice so that you canstep into who you really are in that
and that confident self, so thatyou can prosper as well. Now,
did you navigate that alone and justfigured it out with a bunch of self
help books, or did you knowinvest in yourself so to speak to make
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that happen. I did a thousandpercent. I'm a huge proponent and a
big fan of investing in yourself.I hired coaches, I had mentors along
the way, and I was alsoreally open to feedback. It's really hard
pill to swallow sometimes when you're gettingcritiqued on it is, and I learned
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throughout the years to really take whatI need to take to improve on.
And if I felt strongly about anotherpiece that they were critiquing me on that
I just didn't agree with, that, I would just you know, say
okay, thank you and move forwardto take what I needed to take.
So I did. I invested ina coach as well. I hired help
for me. I'm not an expertin everything, but I do know my
strength so that I can help.You know, I can bring in other
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people that are experts and other areasthat I'm weakened. So it's also realizing
where your area of expertises and whereyou truly can blossom in, and other
areas that you just need to comein and have some refinement, needs some
help in. Yeah. No,I love that, and it's it's so
it's so interesting. I don't thinka lot of people realize the most successful
people in this world. They don't. I mean, I don't think I'll
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ever be without a coach ever againin my life. I just it's just
not worth it to me. No, no, you know, And you
know, at one point it wasI went a little overboard. I had
like seven or I like eight coachesat you know, at one point in
time, all at the same Ispent more time. It's like a full
time job going from one coach tothe other. And I was okay,
I got to scale back a littlebit of this. I became addicted to
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being coached. It's a thing,a true thing. But it helped me
accelltate. I accept at a veryhyper fast pace because that's what I wanted.
And it was interesting too. Iremember years ago I went to Google
to pitch a wellness program and Iwas I was so inspiring to find that
the majority of the top executives thereall had their own private personal coach to
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work with them and to help themcontended stay on point with things. And
and then if you look at youknow where Google is today. I mean
this is back when Google was justkind of like people are like Google,
what, why? What does that? What do you mean Google? You
know, And they were still prettybig already. And I had friends who
are working there, and I hada college classmates that actually went to work
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there, and they said, theycome on by visit me. I'm like,
okay, um, but um,but yeah, it's it's it's fascinating
you see that, and it's it'sa great reminder that yes, when we
invest in ourselves, that's probably thebest investment we can ever make, right
one thousand percent. And they andeven then talking about Google and back then
they were able to recognize it inthe early days how important it is to
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have someone to help you grow andsucceed. You can't go at it alone.
You just cannot. And M andI also take a lot of my
principles and foundations and what I believein and how I conduct business is also
how athletes And you know, I'ma big sports mom, so I correlate
a lot of business to sports andhow athletes invest in themselves so that they
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can be the best. Um.They invest in wellness and in health and
in training. The good ones,successful ones. There are those that don't
just like anything else, like they'reentrepreneurs that don't invest in themselves and they
just grind it out and they burnedout. That's right, right. That's
the same thing with athletes. Youknow, I was an athlete in college,
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and it was it was one ofthose things where I look back and
as much as I did not likemy coach, I don't know if if
I would have done well without mycoach. See yeah, well how it
ould have worked right? Right?Right? So, speaking of the sports
thing, is that because of yourpersonal life or you're into sports, or
you have clients that are athletes,or is it just your boys that are
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just really getting you into this forcething. I mean, I you know,
I played soccer all throughout high school, you know, middle school,
high school. I didn't play incollege, but you know I was.
I went to school and I wasaround football and all those college sports.
So it was kind of always inmy life. And then it wasn't until
when I had my boys that theywere actively actively involved in sports. And
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I will well know they play football, they play football and baseball. So
a completely different sports. I hadto learn it. I had to learn
it. So that was also,Yeah, I hired, not really hired,
but yeah, I had a coachon the side. For me,
it's like, what was that play? You know what it was? The
flag that they called? So Ican learn, but I did. Yeah,
And I honestly, I truly enjoywatching the development of youth in sports
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because it teaches so much. Itreally does. You learn a lot about
yourself. I can see it happeningin front of my eyes with my boys
and my oldest one specifically, he'sfifteen, and I can see his development
coming through, and you know,he's recognizing his strengths and his weaknesses and
I'm just here kind of a guidehim. But he also has amazing coaches
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and trainers to help them along theway too. Yeah, because everybody brings
something different and unique perspectives at thetable, and the more opportunities they have
to see all facets of one topicor one thing, then the better,
right, that's right, voices,you have options, you do have awareness.
Yes, that's oh, that's huge, that's huge. It is.
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And you know, for years Iused that athletic mindset and then I blended
into the work that I do formy clients just to kind of especially those
that were never athletes. You know, it was like a whole new concept
what it means to be competitive andwhat it means compete with yourself, right,
what it means to set like goalsand standards of excellence, you know,
and performance and having a coach andall those different things. Yeah,
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and absolutely, and not only that, but there's another side to it too,
where you can be competitive with yourself. But and then that's a great
you know, that's a that's agreat thing to have, but also the
awareness to recognize, okay, greatwhere you you either missed this game,
you didn't, you lose, youlost, or something happened where it fell
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through reconnys and be okay with it. You're not always going to win.
And that's also another side that weneed to recognize, not only in athletes
and in personal life, but alsoin business too and in success in general.
You're not going to win at everything. Being okay with it and learning
from that so that you can continuemoving forward. But it's that self awareness
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piece. Yeah, I think sportsis so important because we realize that failure
is part of the journey. Youknow, not always winning is part of
the journey. I know people whoare naturally gifted with athleticism and they don't
lose very often. And when theyfinally hit this next echelon of performance and
they're no longer the big fish ina small pond, and they lose,
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and they lose and they lose,they a lot of them go into a
dark place because they have never experiencedthat level of humility. And I see
it as an opportunity because you know, one of the things I say to
all my students and clients is thatwe learn nothing from our successes, but
we learn everything from our failures.Yeah. Sarah Blakely said it best.
(27:02):
Um. She was on a Tedtalk, I believe, and she said
that her dad used to ask heronce a week, what did you fail
out this week? I think that'ssuch a huge, great question to ask,
especially with kids and even to ourselves. You know, um, okay,
where where did I fall short onthis week? Or what did I
fall short on? And just doa little bit of self reflection because it's
going to happen, It's inevitable,and you know what, and a question
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like that, when done right,I think from a parenting perspective, is
such a loving opener, a conversationopener. Yes, I mean obviously if
you use it as a way tomake your kid feel bad, then that's
that's not the right way. No, no goodness, that would have been
the way my dad would do.It's like, where did you fail at?
Oh you're terrible? Yeah, trustme, I get that. Oh
my goodness. Well that's a storyto talk about there, but yeah,
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that's for another episode. So sothis is so very cool. Um,
what I want to ask now isbasically, as we as we approached the
end to our of this timeline,I wish we had more time. But
so so now that you, Imean, in just a short period of
time, you've achieved this level ofsuccess, there's obviously something next, the
next big leap. What would yousay that that next big leap is?
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And more importantly, what is thatnext big untethering that you know that needs
to happen in order for that tothat leap to be accomplished? You know,
like if that if that piece wasn'tthere, like you'd be there already
type of thing. Yeah, Um, well, the next big piece for
me, I want to impact moreentrepreneurs and more businesses, UM, and
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do it at scale and UM,and then not only you know, go
wider, but also go deeper intotheir company. And in order to do
that, UM, it's likely goingto look in the form of investing being
an investor in companies as well.And UM, that is a that is
a a territory I've never even thoughtof in my life. And so for
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me to be able to get ifI could have been there already, I
need to untether from a specific justdoubt in understanding financials. One of my
weaknesses is really understanding like numbers,accounting numbers, and that's something that you
kind of need to know to bean investor, right And I'm being real
and raw right now, so youknow, I mean not only but part
(29:26):
of it too. So and alot of that is just oh well,
I'm just I'm just not good atthat. I'm just not good at that.
Or I sucked at math, orI sucked at science and you're growing
up and you always said that.So now it's like, all right,
Vanessa, I mean, but youcould do this. You can learn the
basics and then you can get there. So it's making sure that I feel
confident in myself because then it's alsogoing to exude off whenever I want to
have investor meetings and stuff and potentiallyinvest into a company. So that is
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the next step for me, andI'm excited a little nervous because it is
also taking big risks, you know, with money, with money, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, there's some interestingmoney stories that are popping up.
It sounds like, and you know, I have a not now, but
I mean I have a few.I have a few clients that have gone
through exactly that, and they madethat choice of becoming an investor by more
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deeply involved with their clients. Andthat says a lot about you, is
that you're You're true, you believein them so much that you're willing to
invest in them as well, andthat you know, with the right business
model in place, in structure inplace, could be a win win situation
for across the board. So reallyexcited to hear that about it. And
because I've seen that path done before, I'm I'm super excited about what will
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potentially unfold for you. Thank you, thank you, I'm excited, thank
you. Love that so um So, now here's a part where you know
people are listening. It's like,oh my god, I love her.
I love her energy, I lovewhat she's all about, I love what
she's saying. What is the bestway for someone who isn't has been inspired
by you from listening to you,to connect with you or to even experience
(30:55):
a little bit more of you.What's the best way for them to do
that? Yeah, so they can, they can connect with me. I
am always on social, So Instagramis the best way to connect with me.
Um, they can go on LinkedIn. You know, I have a
website, but how many people aregoing on websites? So you just top
on you know, Instagram and Facebookand connect with me there. So,
(31:15):
um, you can find me onInstagram at Vanessa Anderson Underscore and then on
LinkedIn as just Vanessa Anderson as well. So those are the two best places
to connect with me on Okay,very cool. So if you want to
connect with Vanessa, you click onthe links below. All the details will
be there, even her website,even if you don't want to. You
know, if it's like whatever,people go to my website because all all
(31:36):
the episodes are there, so theygo they're actually to listen to stuff.
Here. You go and then goto his website for sure. Yeah,
and then you'll see the links toher to her website is because of one
big, happy family. So butyeah, definitely connect with there. There's
so much more I want to askyou, but again, time seems to
be this weird constraint. But youknow, if you're open to have another
conversation down the road, especially whenthings unfold to that next level. Would
(32:00):
love to have you come back onif you would want to come back,
I'd love to. I'd love to. Yeah, very cool. Well,
definitely connect with Vanessa again. Venessa, thank you so much for taking the
time to come on, so muchto share, and there's so many layers
of nuggets of wisdom and just kindof your journey and the realism. Appreciate
you so much. Thank you somuch. Way, I appreciate the time.
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And that's it for this episode.Thank you for listening, because you
listening is what inspires our guests andme to continue doing what we can to
help untether and elevate more human beingsto new heights of prosperous success. Now,
if what you heard today inspired youto want to finally untether from the
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