February 22, 2023 • 50 mins
Are you scared of failing?
When it comes to business, relationships and life in general, we often think that failing is a bad thing. But in reality, these mistakes help us learn and grow. And as the saying goes, “you’ll need to lose first, before you can win.”
Today’s guest tells us more about that. Jacklyn Gallo, is a 22-year-old CEO of a company called Clarity and Action Consulting, which is on a mission to help women create lives they love. Jacklyn delves deeper into her own business journey and growth, the concept of being enough, failing to learn and becoming someone that you’re meant to become.
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When it comes to business, relationships and life in general, we often think that failing is a bad thing. But in reality, these mistakes help us learn and grow. And as the saying goes, “you’ll need to lose first, before you can win.”
Today’s guest tells us more about that. Jacklyn Gallo, is a 22-year-old CEO of a company called Clarity and Action Consulting, which is on a mission to help women create lives they love. Jacklyn delves deeper into her own business journey and growth, the concept of being enough, failing to learn and becoming someone that you’re meant to become.
Episode Highlights:
- Why being untethered also means being enough
- Failing to learn
- What it means for Jacklyn to be prosperous and the different seasons of life
- The Emotional Guidance Scale and setting milestones
- Jacklyn’s business journey and growth
- How Jacklyn untethered from something that she wasn’t while finding her true calling
- Jackyn’s next big leap
- Visit Jacklyn’s website at https://www.jaclyngallo.com/
- Listen to Jacklyn’s podcast, Spark Your Light Podcast
- Connect with Jacklyn on Instagram @jacklyntgallo
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I think that it comes down tomentors, teachers, parents, coaches,
encouraging the failure and then saying whatdid you learn from this? How are
you going to change and having thoseconversations around It's not about failing to fail,
it's about failing to learn. Soif you don't do well on the
test, it's okay, what canyou learn from that? How can you
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study better? Or how can youprepare better? Or if it's the sport,
can you change your swing or canyou do these things? I think
it's about that conversation, that reflection, and really seeing it as a tool.
I always define failure as either alesson or redirection. Hey it's way,
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and you're listening to Untethered and Prosperous, the podcast where we focus on
the two biggest things. Passionate,purpose driven entrepreneurs need to untether to become
wildly prosperous and successfully happy. Andthose two huge anchors are bad money stories
and chronic self sabotage. So whatwe do is have real and inspiring conversations
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with amazing entrepreneurs who have done justthat. So get ready to get untethered
and get prosperous. Hey it's wayand Welcome to another episode of Untethered and
Prosperous. What's all about helping youbecoming untethered from your bad money stories,
or your chronic self sabotage, orwhatever's holding you back from creating the most
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prosperous life that you can. Andwhat we do is to bring on amazing
guests that will help inspire you towhat is possible. And today we have
someone who is amazing, who issuper young and vibrant, has been able
to make an amazing impact already,and so doesn't matter what age group you're
in, if you hear her story, you're going to be blown away.
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Her name is Jacqueline Gallo and she'sthe CEO of Clarity and Action Consulting,
which is a woman's empowerment company ona mission to help women create lives they
love. And I think they're there'snot enough of that to go around,
so don't ever think that anybody's incompetition with you on that. She's also
a life coach, a two timesbest selling author, a tech speaker put
that on my list, and hostof the popular Spark Your Light podcast at
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age twenty one. Because she's onlytwenty two now, you will if you
watch the video, you'll know whatI'm talking about. Super young looking.
Jacqueline started her business from her dormroom at Georgetown University, which is amazing
because while I was in university,in my dorm room, I usually I
was recovering from a hangover, butshe was starting a business. Today.
She has spoken at over one hundredand twenty five corporations, conferences, and
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universities in seven different countries. JaQuelhas been featured by Forbes, Elite Daily,
Bustle, and Washington Business Journal,and Good Morning Washington. Enough of
me reading her bio, Let's gether on the show. Jacqueline, Welcome
to the show. Thank you forhaving me. I'm really excited to be
here. Yeah, I do apre shape your patience with me getting things
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set up and everything before we startedgoing on the air, because you know,
like I was saying, today wasone of those days like why do
I have something so early? ButI'm glad you're the early appointment, because
any other appointment, I'd be like, I love it. I'm glad to
be the early appointment. So let'sstart the framework, because you know,
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everybody has a different definition what itmeans to become untethered. Everybody has a
different definition would it mean to beprosperous? And so to give our audience
some contexts and idea of what yourworld is like for you, Jocko,
what does it mean to become untetheredin as a human being going through life
as an entrepreneur? Yeah, Well, if you would have asked me this
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question even a year ago, Iwould have had a very different answer.
I think my answer would have beenvery rooted in circumstances, very rooted in
if you have this much money topay for these things, or you have
you know, this much security.And I've evolved so much in that belief
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system, and I've gotten to aplace where I really believe that it's about
an internal feeling. And I dothink that changes you can make in your
life, taking different actions, buildinga business, leaving a job you hate,
getting into a relationship that fulfills youright, all of these things that
I've done in my life and thata lot of my clients do. Taking
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care of your health right can helpcreate that feeling. But the problem that
most people experience, and I'm surethis is a big inspiration for the show,
is that the feeling keeps getting pushedout. Okay, first it was
one hundred thousand dollars a year,and then it's two hundred thousand, and
it's five thousand, and it's amillion. First it was lose ten pounds
and now it's twenty. First itwas get engaged, and then it's have
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our wedding, and now it's havea baby. Right, it's always something
else, And so if you're onthat treadmill, you're never going to get
off it. And that's something I'velearned through the creation success, through the
manifestation of so many things I oncewanted I'm now living and I had to
let go of all of it.I had to surrender to creating that feeling
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inside of me. And so thatfeeling that I get in my gut that
I'm enough in my life today exactlyas it is, is enough that's untethered
and prosperous to me. That's avery rich and free life. Yeah,
and I love that you said that, you know, even just a year
ago, and that says a lotabout your journey. And I think a
lot of entrepreneurs who really kind ofstep into that space of you know,
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working on purpose or living on purpose, that you'll find that once you get
into that little slip stream, evolutionhappens very quickly, right from one year
to the next, and even fromthe last time we spoke till now,
probably some things I've shifted as well. I was actually thinking about how I
filled out that questionnaire with different problemsand challenges, and I'm like, oh,
I solve that a week ago.So funny. How you really do
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grow so quickly as an entrepreneur.Yeah, And I think that's kind of
how you know you're on the righttrack. I think for some people it
might be a little bit scary tobe growing that quickly, because it's not
what we're taught. It's not howwe're raised to believe. Right, We're
waised to take the kind of likethe safe and secure and solid route,
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and then only to realize that's justa compensate for the lowest common denominator,
right, and then everybody else justhas to follow that just to make sure
everybody's okay, which, you know, to a certain degree, I think
it's remnant of our survival, right, survival kind of tactic. It's like,
okay, let's make sure no mangets left behind type of thing.
And at the same time, ifhumanity itself. I think I feel like
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kind of you're an example of that, which is, if we want to
step into a newer age of growthand evolution, we almost have to kind
of embrace that speed that you're demonstratinghere from one year to the next.
It's almost like when I was listeningto you just now, it sounded like
you were saying that all these thingsthat you were like last year, you're
talking about untethering from, you know, this, this belief that you have
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to work this way or have thisjob, or have this marriage, or
have this kid or what if thekids might be I'm tethering from that.
Those almost seem like metaphors of whatyou truly need to be untethering from,
which is like you're saying something withhim, is that I did pick up
what you're putting down there. Yeah, it's like I thought I needed to
untethering from like physical three D things, but really I needed to un from
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not feeling like enough I was enoughexactly where I am in my life today.
Yeah, that big enough piece soundslike it's not an uncommon thing.
I mean, I'm sure you seeit a lot in the women's empowerment work
is that helping women, you know, recognize that they are enough wherever they
are right now. Right, It'sso hard for people and it's so life
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changing when you can make that shift. Yeah, what do you think it
contributes to that, that that rhetoricor that narrative that a lot of us
end up growing up with. Doyou think it's academic system? Is that
culture is our society? What doyou think it is? Yeah, I
definitely think there is a huge problemin our society, in our academic system,
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in parenting in a really non intentionalway, but a way that does
impact us, that pushes us tobe afraid of failure. Right, Like
you get a bad grade in school, you fail the test, you have
to have a meeting with the teacher. You are going to be able to
advance the next grade if you,you know, strike out when you're playing
the sport, right, you're playingbaseball or softball, and then you have
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to talk with your coach. Youknow, you got to fix your swing
or this or that. It's rarethat there are are conversations with children around
failure being a good thing, failureteaching you. And if we seek to
avoid that, then we just sayin our comfort zone, and when we're
in our comfort zone, we're reallymissing the point of life. To me,
the point of life isn't to behappy all the time. I think
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that's a myth and a misconception thata lot of people have. It's to
grow, it's to feel fulfilled throughthe process of growth, through the process
of becoming a better version of yourselfand achieving your goals. Now, achieving
your goals and living in this goaloriented society, especially in the United States,
can be really empowering. But becausepeople have this lens of but I
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can't fail, then they inevitably pullthem back right, So it's this push
pull, pushed pull, and thensometimes they get over that hump up,
Okay, you know what, it'sokay to fail because I'm going to get
here and want to get there.I'll be enough and I'll be happy.
So they're missing the whole point ofovercoming that. They're not really overcoming the
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belief. They're just replacing one poorbelief with another poor belief that maybe is
a little bit better but still reallylimits them in their ability to feel like
their enough. Yeah, and thenat what point, I mean, we
can imagine that if people say,okay, great, Well, there's an
argument that may come up then says, well, if we're nurturing this failure,
at what point do we want tomake sure that we're also not breeding
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a sense of entitlement that I cando no wrong and there's no lesson to
be learned. I can fail anytimeI want because there's no consequence and and
I don't mean consequence from a badstandpoint, like there's like a cause and
effect type of circumstance, you know, because those that truly understand the value
of failure are the ones who said, Okay, I completely you know,
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screwed the pooch on this one.Are what are the lessons from this?
But I think I think there's afine line that we want to make sure,
as you know, for future generationsthat if we're going to nurture that
piece, you know, what isthat fine line that's that doesn't then breed
to like entitlement you know what Imean? Doesn't make sense? Yeah,
I think that it comes down tomentors, teachers, parents, coaches,
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encouraging the failure and then saying whatdid you learn from this? How are
you going to change? And havingthose conversations around It's it's not about failing
to fail. It's about failing tolearn. So if you don't do well
on the test, it's okay,what can you learn from that? How
can you study better? Or howcan you prepare better? Or if it's
the sport, you know, canyou change your swing or can you do
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these things? I think it's aboutthat conversation, that reflection, and really
seeing it as a tool. Ialways define failure as either a lesson or
redirection. So if it's not workingout and you've given it, you're all
and you've learned the lessons, maybeyou're being guided in a different direction,
right, or maybe there's a necessarylesson in it and helping people to really
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take the time to slow down andreflect rather than just saying, okay,
I failed. Oh well this doesn'tmatter, right, Okay, I think
someone picked me up and what mybutt? You know exactly exactly. I
think it's the mentorship. Yeah,yeah, And we see a lot of
that, and it's unfortunate because I'msitting there going no, no, no,
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this is an opportunity for you,right, And I love this conversation
because there's a mantra that I equippedto my all my students and clients all
the time. It's like we learnwe learned everything from our failures. We
learned nothing from our successes, becauseour successes only demonstrate our ability to learn
having learned from our failures, right, it's as proof that we learned something,
right, you know. And Isee a lot of my peers and
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go growing up in and especially havinga lot of Asian family friends, there
was this always pushed for academic successand this I was always compared to this
kid who never failed. I was, you know, he always got straight
as he was perfect across the board. And then I noticed something really interesting
that there was one time later inlife that he completely failed at something,
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and it it almost felt like itthrottled into a state of massive depression because
he failed at one time. AndI sat there and back then I didn't
realize what I was payment I waslooking at. I was like going,
what is going on with him?What's what does he have to here?
I am like failing all over theplace, right, and I'm already used
to that. I'm like going,okay, great, And I didn't even
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realize I was learning and growing fromeach one and being more dynamic and being
a broader spectrum of tolerability in mylife. But I'm looking at him,
was like, what does he haveto worry about? Oh boo hoo,
he failed once? So what lookat his entire life. It's amazing.
Yeah, and it's his lens fromseeing his entire life as yeah, not
enough because one failure. Yeah,and I think that happened to me too
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when I was little, I missedthat one gold star my dad. Okay,
so get this, tacklin. Mydad had this, this amazing academic
career. Can you imagine going throughlife and having one hundred percent academic career
your entire life, from like themoment you were born till you went got
your PhD. One hundred percent.It was so impossible that one of his
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professors in university gave him a ninetynine percent because his philosophy was, I
can't give you a hundred percent eventhough you got one hund percent, because
what would that make me as aprofessor. I was like, ooh,
ego, okay, so gave mydad a nine nine percent just because he's
a student, not the professor.But anyway, that was the shoes I
had to fill. Those are theshoes I had to fill when I was
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going, like, can you imaginewhen I missed my first gold Star?
I was like devastated. Fortunately Ihit it really early in life, so
I became imperfect really early. Ican't imagine. It puts a lot of
pressure on children. Yeah, yeah, so speaking of that, No,
we're not speaking of that. ButI know you're married now and I don't
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know any children in the future now, But let's talk about what you would
define for Jacqueline, because that's themost one of the most subjective definitions is
the definition of prosperous life or prosperity. What would you define as Jacqueline's life
of prospers What it means to beprosperous, you know, specifically for you,
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I think it means to be prosperousin all the areas that are values
of mine. So prosperous in ourfine as, prosperous in our love,
prosperous in our family, prosperous inour ability to see the world and travel,
prosperous in our quality time with friends, Prosperous in our careers and the
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work we do. Prosperous and ourability to be generous and make an impact
in the world. So it's reallynot just about the wealth category. That
is one piece of the pie forme, but it really is creating prosperity
in all areas and really having itall. I think it's something that we're
told we can't and I think there'sa lot of validity in that statement.
Right, you can't have your neededto You're gonna have to put in work,
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and I think there's a lot ofentitlement as we talked about earlier.
But I do think at the endof the day, we can create a
life where we do have it all, and we have to understand what are
our values and what does it actuallymean to us? So then I could
unpack each of those categories right evenfurther and what actually doesn't mean to be
prosperous and family, what actually doesit mean to be prosperous in our finances
is um and I think that thatthat's the work. Yeah, you know,
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it's funny that you say that haveyour cake and eat it too.
I don't know who made that thatphrase, probably someone who was gluten fall
or something like that, because itdoesn't make any sense. Why would you
buy cake and not eat it?So true, I need to google where
that came from because that's just seriouslynever made sense to me. I was
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like, what do you mean youcan't eat the cake that you got?
What seriously, cake? Don't eatit? But yeah, so so being
you know, being as successful asyou are now or you know, on
your way to even more success.Give me an example what that looks like
when you're a prosperous in your family, life, your friends, like your
relationship and everything all at once.Because I think a lot of the challenges
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that are a lot of entrepreneurs facesthat there tends to be always something kind
of an imbalanced and they're constantly likeit's like that video game where you're running
to fill up this side and youget to run over fill it this side
and feel it this side. Whatdo we do to complete the wheel during
our entire journey? I think that'sthat's something that you're basically saying, is
that, you know, why gothrough this journey of constantly chasing when you
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can have different version of completeness asyou grow? Is is that what I'm
getting from you? Yeah, Like, I feel prosperous right now in all
those categories, and I know thatI'm only going to feel more prosperous as
I continue to evolve. I thinkit's a really great question about how do
you create that balance that people seek. And I think the first thing that's
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important is to understand that there aredifferent seasons of life, just like there
are four different seasons in the year. There's a time for winter, there's
a time for summer, and soyou know, currently I'm in a different
season than I was in even twomonths ago, and I don't know how
long it's going to last. ButI'm open to what this season holds and
what this season looks like for mylife, for my husband's life, for
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our finances, for my business,for our family right and for all these
different categories. And I think it'sabout intentional reflection around the categories. I've
heard it said before in the bookThe five Love Language is about love.
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Is your love tankful? And Ithink it can be applied to all the
categories. So I can just doan assessment on any given week is my
love tankful and have conversations around that. If you know there's someone else involved,
For example, with a relationship,it's like okay for me and my
love tank feels full when we goon at least one day to week and
when we spend even fifteen minutes beforebed talking about our days, even if
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we had a really busy day,and that's really important to me. So
I communicate that how did I figurethat out through not having those needs met?
Through feeling man, I feel likewe don't see each other that much.
We're so busy right through experimenting,So it's going to take time and
reflection to figure it out. Samein each category. So in my business,
what helps me feel fulfilled? Ilove doing podcast interviews, I love
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coaching clients. I love traveling tospeak. How can I integrate those things?
And then again with the seasons,It's like in the summer, I
don't travel to speak a lot.There's just not a lot going on,
and so I have a much slowerseason of business, Whereas for some reason
October is like the craziest month everOctober. In April I get super busy
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and that's part of that season.And so I look at the categories and
ask myself, is that tankful?And I have full clarity on what's important
to me? What are my values? So with my health, how many
times do I want to work outa week? And what does that look
like? And what's my commitment evenon the busy weeks, and how can
I fit that in? And thenonce you have that sort of assessment and
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you are able to adjust in realtime through the different seasons. I think
the final piece of it is beingpresent with each thing you're in. So
when I'm working, when I'm onthis interview, I'm fully here, right,
You're giving my heart and soul andfeeling fulfilled. When I am on
a date tonight, I'm going tobe fully there and giving my heart and
soul to that. And so ithelps me. Even though, as you
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know, we got on this call, I came from a client call.
I said, I have to goto the bathroom, but I didn't.
Right, it can be fast paced, and so I was there here and
then it was in the bathroom,and then it was here again. Even
though it's fast paced, when Iget there, even if things are back
to back, I'm there. AndI think that really helps you with yeah,
and being as the shift gears,I think you just learned how to
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shift gears as necessary, right,And I think you know, even going
to the bathroom is a great littlekind of pause in between, right,
so that you can honor nature andthen come back to you right. You
know what, I what I reallylike about this is that you know it
has it probably will help someone thinkabout well, I think a question that
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would come up is what if you'vebeen so empty for so long that you
don't even know how to begin andto fill that? And I'm sure doing
women's empowerment work, you probably seeyour fair share of that piece where there's
some part of the tank that hasbeen like on fumes for a really long
time to the point where they're like, you know, we see this when
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people are burnt down. Its likecan you what do you want? It's
like I don't know what I want. I just want to sleep, or
you know that type of thing thatthey can't even wrap their head around about
what would contribute or be part oftheir prosperous life. And this is why
I like to ask that question sothat it could hopefully inspire someone to say,
oh, yeah I want that oryeah I want it, Because if
they spent their entire lives not wantingthat or not feeling that they could want
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that, how do they then rediscoverthat piece? You know, how do
they get their groove back? Soto speak? It's a great question.
It reminds me of this concept thatAbraham Hicks teaches called the emotional guidance scale,
which is basically a scale of youremotions from really high level ones which
are very high vibrations, very lowlevel ones which are very low vibration.
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And part of the concept is thatit's very, very difficult to climb from
a really low emotion to a reallyhigh one. So a lot of people
feel depressed, feel like they arecompletely powerless or a victim of their circumstances,
and they say, well, howcan I feel empowered? Well,
that's not really a realistic shift.You have to climb the scale and maybe
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get to a place where you feelbored, and then maybe you'll get to
a place where you feel neutral,and then maybe you'll get to a place
where you feel hope, and thenfrom hope, maybe you'll feel gratitude,
and so you're able to climb thatscale. And so I recommend applying that
concept in a really tangible way whereyou just ask yourself, Okay, if
I had to do something because sitting, if you're burnout, absolutely rest,
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slow down. But I know frompersonal experience, because I have experienced bouts
of feeling really low, just throughthis entrepreneurial journey and sitting and doing nothing
for days and days, days anddays doesn't help you feel any better.
And sometimes when I'm having a badday, I don't want to go for
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a walk, I don't want tosit and read a book. But these
are things that I personally know helpme through experience. So looking back at
your past experience, those might notbe the things for you. But looking
back and saying, okay, haveI ever felt this way before? And
what tends to help me start tofeel just a little bit better. So
don't try to feel one hundred percent. But if you're feeling like you're at
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negative ten, what would make youfeel like negative eight? Maybe? And
they come to mind, and youmight be like, no, I want
to take a nice long bath,or you know, I'd love to plan
a lunch with it my good friendand just chat about life. That always
helps me. Whatever it is.Start there, and then one step at
a time, you're going to startto climb in the scale. And the
thing that happens is now you're ata negative eight, it becomes a little
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easier to think about, well,what would get me to a negative five.
So when I'm on that when I'mhaving that day where I'm feeling sit
down and I'm like, you knowwhat, let me just go for a
walk. Then all of a sudden, I'm like, you know what,
maybe I should do to take thisaction in my business, and maybe I
should do this, And before Iknow it, Yeah, I'm at it,
positive elevating. Yeah, exactly.So I think it's really about not
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expecting yourself to feel better overnight,obviously, paired with processing your emotions.
If you have trauma, you needtherapy or any kind of professional help go
get that right, Paired with takingthe action steps one step at a time.
They're going to help you there toclimb that emotional guidance system. Yeah,
it sounds a lot like you whatthis discussion reminds me of doctor David
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Hawkins Power versus Force matrix, youknow, where he actually maps out exactly
what you know Hicks was talking about, which is the different level, so
you know kind of very clearly whatlevel you should be shooting for next in
terms of that, I don't knowif you've ever read that book or not.
No I haven't, but I'll haveOh my god. Yeah, it's
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and there's a frequency thing and ourtechnology helps people calculate that frequency. It's
it's a whole thing. But anyway, yeah, it's a phenomen nominal thing.
You would love it since you alreadyare on board with this type of
progression. You would absolutely love thatbook because it will show you that and
I can tell you more later.But anyway, yeah, I love that
because that's so helpful for a lotof people who think that you know,
and that's unfortunate the social media world, we find ourselves comparing way beyond sometimes
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our next step that it actually disenchantsthe journey, so to speak, it
keeps us stuck. And I thinkit's something really important that we want to
remind people that it's just about takingthat next, first, next best step.
And like you're saying, I lovethat. It's like from negative eight,
what negative ten? What would ittake to get a negative eight?
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And then like you're saying that,once you get into this, there's a
momentum that happens, So it doesn'tmean that it's all linear. You can
suddenly boom, burst out of thewater and next thing you know, you're
in sunshine. You're like, okay, great, I'm on top of the
water now. Yes, absolutely,And I think This is also really important
we talk about goal setting. Ialways have people, you know, how
do I set better goals? Andthey want of course you know this.
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People are seeking this like one wayand this one strategy that just works every
day for every person. It justdoesn't exist, right. There's lots of
strategies and there's lots of ways.And it's so funny because I'm one person,
and in season winter I need onestrategy and in the summer season I
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need a different strategy, And sothere's not even one way that necessarily will
work for you. But when wetalk about goals, when I see clients
who are at a place where they'refeeling a little bit helpless. There may
be feeling like, man, I'vetried before, and is this going to
really work? And maybe, likeyou said, they're comparing themselves to someone
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who's way ahead of them on socialmedia. It can be really helpful to
set just that next step goal aswell. So the tangible. If you're
talking about your business, Let's sayyou're making two thousand dollars a month and
you really want to be making tenthousand, but you can't even imagine making
four thousand. Maybe you set agoal to make three thousand a month and
you are all like, okay,how can I make an extra thousand dollars?
Now of a sudden, you havenew ideas, you start taking new
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actions, and then when you getto that three thousand, it becomes a
lot easier to set the goal forfour thousand, and before you know it,
you will be at ten thousand,as opposed to setting the goal for
ten thousand feeling discouraged and then nottaking any action at all. So I
want to mention that too. Ifyou're kind of relating to that emotional state,
that might be a good goal settingstrategy for you as well. Yeah.
Absolutely, it's a progression thing,right, I think I think we
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call those milestones right to hit thebigger goal, to break it down so
that way you don't, you know, make the chasm so large that it's
like I can't I can't leap acrossa thousand meters, but look there's all
these little steps in between. It'slike, oh I can do that.
Yeah exactly. And it's so greatto tie it to a real metaphor,
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like if you've ever trained for anything, and if you haven't, I would
encourage you too, because it's sucha powerful process. But like running a
marathon is a great sample. Iremember I was like, oh my gosh,
miles, right, and then everyweek I ran a few more miles
on my long run day, andbefore I knew it, I run twenty
six miles. And if you askedme today to go outside and run twenty
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six miles, I can't do it. I need to drink. But I
do know that I could, thatI could get there, and it's it's
just such a beautiful experience to beable to like have that in your body.
And then no, you can applythat to business too, or any
goal you have. Yeah, Imean really, everything that we experience in
life is a potential metaphor sounds likethat, a potential learning opportunity, right,
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And I think when when we,especially as entrepreneurs, approached life that
way, it's so much richer onso many different levels, like we can
take and it's so much easier totake responsibility for some of the choices that
we'd make, you know, thatare good or bad or even ugly.
Right, So very cool. Well, at this point people are probably listening
going, what the heck does shedo? So let's talk a little bit
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more about about that. I know, I know, and you were going
to spin off on a variety differentthing. It's so good to be able
to talk to, you know,people in the same wavelength. So tell
us more about where you are today, the level success you have achieved,
and more importantly, what was itthat what was the biggest untethering that needed
to happen for you to have theprosper success you have today. Yeah,
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that's at a young age. Greatquestion. So today, what my business
looks like. I do want onone life coaching. I run one life
coaching program to group infinite potential,you know, can have as many people.
It's sort of like an online course, but I teach it live and
I coach live, and that's kindof the life coaching side of my business,
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I guess you could say. Andthen the speaking side, I speak
about forty times a year. Itravel a lot, I do some virtual
and I speak a lot at collegesand then also at companies, at conferences
things like that. And I write. I've written two books and I'm working
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on my third. And that's justreally a fun way for me to kind
of share these next level evolutions withthe world. It hasn't yet become a
thriving income stream because you only makeyou know, a few dollars on every
book, but I send someday thatit will be the biggest In terms of
like the business side of my business. The biggest income streams are speaking and
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coaching, both through the one onone in the group program. And I
build a really solid business where Ifeel very supportive. It feels scalable.
It took me a long time toget to this place. Had a lot
that's relative too. What's a longtime because you're talking to someone who's a
bit of a dinosaur right now,and I'm just getting catch that you're dinosaur,
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which is relative. Well six years, yeah, years, and you're
feels like well because at the levelof growth you've probably gone through, it
feels like a long time. Butsix years really nothing. I mean,
I think a lot of people whohave been sometimes a lot of people have
been like ten years or fifteen yearsjust to create a six figure business,
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right yeah, and you've you've beendoing that. But now granted you started
when you're in college, you alreadyhad that ambition built in and stuff like
that. I think a lot ofwhat you do is to help people expedite
that process as well. But yeah, so so I think it's I think
it's I think it's fantastic. Imean in terms of what you've been able
to achieve. Now, have weseen it in different timelines? Sure,
but you're at you're at a pointright now. It sounds like where you're
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just beginning and multiple six figures ison its way. And I'm sure before
you know, before you're even fortyor forty three. I think in our
world, adulthood isn't until forty three. Anyway, I'll tell you more about
that. You're probably going to bewell into the seven figure mark. And
I talk about those figures to helppeople kind of like anchor into realizing just
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kind of the path that you're on, but not so much for the financial
gain. But if you haven't payingattention, you will realize that if I
gave Jacqueline a million dollars right now, she probably pay it forward to create
greater impact versus just like I'm goingto buy myself an a Ventador, a
Lambo or like a Ferrari or somethinglike that. Right. Yeah, And
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it feels really cool to be ata place where I feel confident if my
business made a million dollars this year, or if you gave me a gift
of a million dollars, I couldmanage it. I feel responsible, I
feel ready for that next level.And that only came from so much mindset
work in the now, managing nowwith each level and each different step of
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growth that has really supported that.So what was the biggest untethering that needed
to happen and for you to reallybe able to step into this level success
because I think a lot of peoplefind themselves shackled to something that is that
they can't seem to wrap their headsaround. And you know, seemed to
that level success that you're experiencing iskind of elusive to a lot of people
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out there. And that's again,it could be like six to seven,
seventy eight figures, whatever, itdoesn't matter. So in twenty eighteen,
to give you some context, Ionly made eleven thousand dollars in my business.
I had already tried to build aproduct that failed. I then tried
to make an app that was failing, and I was doing a little bit
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of health coaching, which is soironic because I didn't even consider myself.
I got it coaching certification just soI could make money to fund my app,
which is so ironic, and that'swhere the eleven thousand came from,
and that was revenue, not profit. Was very deep into the next gives
and twenty nineteen was almost like overnightsuccess, even though I had been working
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on this now for twenty sixteenth threeyears, and everything kind of shot up.
And that transition to go from thateleven thousand to my first six figure
year came in the untethering of metrying to be something I wasn't. It
came in really allowing myself to leaninto what I was naturally good at and
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ask myself, how can I makemoney doing the things I'm naturally good at
and the things that are already working. So the things I knew I was
naturally good at is because they wereworking. So at the time I had
really a rock bottom moment where Iwas like, nothing is working. I
should just give up my business.And I came across this question in some
book I was reading. I don'teven remember what book. I wish I
did so I could attribute it tothis, But I had read so many
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personal development self help books at thetime, feeling like my whole world was
crumbling and the question was what isworking? And at first I said nothing,
That's why I'm reading this book.And then I started to think more
and more and really look at thebusiness I had, and I realized that
one thing that was working was speaking. So I was traveling to colleges in
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the area and I was giving atalk. I was calling it marketing,
and I was talking about this appI was building. I was talking about
how I had an eating disorder incollege and that's what inspired me to create
this wellness app for women. AndI would get these messages from women who
are in the audience after my talk. Oh my gosh, this helped me
so much. This inspired me,I'm going to get professional help for my
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eating disorder. Or I'm so inspiredby you pursuing your dreams, I'm going
to change my major. And Ijust kind of discounted that what's really interesting
about our brains as our particular activatingsystem filters based on our thoughts and beliefs.
So I had programmed the filter tosay that those things weren't important,
they didn't matter because they weren't makingme money, they weren't building my app.
Just put them on the beta testerlist and move on. Right.
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But once I had really looked atit, I realized that maybe that's something
that I'm really good at. Maybethis is something that I have a natural
talent apt, maybe this was aGod given gift. I'm very spiritual,
and I feel that we all giftsand sort of our duty to use those
gifts in the world to make theworld a better place. And if this
is one of my own, especiallyonce I found out that public speaking is
number one fear in the world andit's not something that I really get afraid
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of, maybe I should use it. So that's when I started trusting the
inspired actions to Okay, take acourse on this, start learning about this,
and very quickly I had booked myselffor many speeches, booked my first
speaking tour, which led to lifecoaching because after my speeches, I would
have mostly speaking at colleges at thetime, students come up to me and
say, Hey, can you helpme with X, Y or Z.
And I was like, let mefigure out this life coaching thing. And
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that was really the breakthrough to buildinga business that was financially prosperous in the
industry that I'm in. It hasgone through many evolutions and many more untetherings
get to the place where it istoday. But without that big untethering and
that sort of almost like exponential growth, I wouldn't be able to be where
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I am today now. And Ilove that identification of that because you have
no idea and to be able tounderstand that at this point in your life
is such a huge step up forthose because you have no idea. How
many multi millionaires walk into my officeand they will sit there and they have
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no idea why they're waking up unfulfilledand unhappy despite making millions, you know,
and it doesn't matter. And atthat point, money is just a
number, whether it be six,seven or eight. And I even have
people said, what what would yougive up? What would you be willing
to trade? Not that you haveto so that you know why you're here
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or you know what it's going totake to be happy or to feel on
purpose. And that untethering from tryingto be something that you're not, I
think is something that so many ofus have been raised to believe. Now
I get it at some point thatwhen we don't know, we don't know,
so we're just being guided in thebest way we can. Right our
parents tell us, our teachers tellus, and then so to survive,
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right, we mimic and we emulateas best we can. It's just that
we're not taught to. Then atsome point shed the mask and shed that,
shed those different costumes so that wecan truly see what if we have
grown to become right, And Ithink it's so cool that you were able
to do that, and I lovethat you did the air quotes on overnight
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success when most people don't realize it'snever an overnight success. It's usually like,
you know, five, ten,twenty, maybe a lifetime up to
that point. Right, people thoughtKentucky Fried Chicken Colonel Sanders is an overnight
success. That dude was sixty buthe hit it. But he spent all
his life just like completely failing everywhere. He's had this last last leg so
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to speak, last chicken legs,so to speak, and then he finally
went there and he didn't create it, didn't He didn't success till sixty,
which is fascinating to me. It'sinspiring. It's inspiring to know because I
think some people hear my story andfeel like, oh, well, you
started when you're so young, LikeI already missed the boat on that and
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it's like, no, that wasmy divine timing of my life, because
there's something I'm supposed to do atthis time in my life. And there's
something you're supposed to do at whatevertime you're at in your life. And
that's why you're having this phone,that's why you're listening to this episode.
That's why you're feeling these intuitive nudgesand you get to trust in honor the
timing of your life. Yeah,No, I love that. It's so
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good. So many gemstones dropped onthis episode. It's so awesome. So,
so what's next for you? Youknow, and you are what you
are, and I love to seewhat the next big expansion, the next
big leap is for Jacqueline, right, and more importantly, what would you
say would be the next big untetheringthat you recognize that you will that needs
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to happen in order for you tohave what it is that next big leap
is like if that was untethered liketoday, you would have it like tomorrow
type of Yeah, the next bigleap is reaching way more people in all
the areas. So I see myselfspeaking on stages with twenty thirty thousand people
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in the audience. I see myselfhaving thousands and thousands of people in my
coaching program. I see myself noselling thousands of copies of my books,
just really impacting ten times the amountof people that I'm impacting right now.
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And it's funny because when I filledout the initial questionnaire for the show,
what I wrote about this untethering was, I think I needed to untethered that
it could happen tomorrow, like there'salways this mindset. Somewhere in my six
year journey, I switched and thiswas a positive shift at the time,
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from microwave culture to a long termmindset, which meant that I stopped chasing
the next dollar, I stopped chasingthe next client, and I started thinking
about where do I want to bein ten years. And I think a
big part of this was getting married, wanting to have a family someday,
thinking about, Okay, well,what's my life going to look like when
I have kids, and how doI want that to look at Really being
then archetype architect of my life forcedme to get into the long term mindset,
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and that was a healthy untethering,but then created a new untethering that
needed to happen, which is tobelieve, to hold this believe that while
I have the long term mindset,the opportunities are here and I'm ready now,
right. And I actually think overthe past few weeks, I've really
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untethered that. I mean, maybenot to the extreme level of like,
you know, could I imagine,you know, what do you believe is
possible for you tomorrow? Right?Could I imagine that a hundred people sign
up for my coaching program? Yeah, totally right. Maybe I couldn't imagine
ten thousand, right, but Icould imagine more than ten. And so
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it's really amazing how the power ofvisualization and the power of just really seeing
yourself where you want to be canhelp untether that. But then I wonder,
Okay, well, why don't Ihave the say, hundred right now?
Maybe I will next week? Right, So what's what's the current untethering?
And what comes up for me inthis moment is the current untethering is
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really believing that I can have thatwhere I am today. So I think
it's like this part of me thatbelieves I could have a hundred people if
it's like conditional, right. Ihave an Instagram reel that goes viral.
If my spending breau books me fora gig with ten thousand people, if
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right, Like, there's all thesethings that could happen. But what about
with the six thousand people that followme today? What if one hundred decided
that they want to change their lifeand join this program, or what if
you know, the thousand people onmy email list decide that they ten percent
of them want to join, forexample. So I think that's a really
powerful I'm tethering for me currently tobelieve that nothing has to change. It's
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kind of like the happinest thing.Nothing needs to change for me to feel
happier enough, nothing needs to changefor my business to get to that next
level. I think there's a healthchange, right change. Yeah, It's
like, yeah, it's like adecision, right, that's decision that you
made. I mean, this iswhat what you're talking about is actually something
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closer to lines of how do youshift to living a life on a quantum
level, because you know the quantumexistence that they talk about and with all
the quantum computing that's all happening.I just saw a really cool video from
the Physics Girl on YouTube. Alittle quick litt shout out to I love
her. She she was talking abouthow Google used their quantum computers to produce
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a time crystal, a crystal thatis perpetually when light is you know,
flowing through it, that stays inmotion. It's like a perpetually emotion as
long as there's some kind of alight source coming through it or something like
that, which is fascinating. Butanyway, I mean, this is the
kind of like the world that we'reliving to and if human beings are able
to kind of keep up what you'redescribing, there is that quantum shift in
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creation into you know, going pastthat rhetoric, of that conditional rhetoric and
just recognizing that it's as easy asa flip, because you know, the
flow of energy and money and everythinglike that transcends space and time. So
it doesn't really care about the timing. It's human beings that care because otherwise
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we can't we can't handle it ifwe don't have the structures in place,
right So, you know, andI love the way that you're describing it,
because if for those of you arelistening, what you're what you're listening
to right now is called agility.You know, her, Jacqueline, you
being as present as you are isdemonstrating an example of what it means to
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be agile in your life so thatyou have a high level resilience. So
like being present to what is now, Like I loved Allison and watching you
and say, okay, you youbasically got yourself to if I was to
entere something right now, being presentto what is present to you right now
in this moment, because that's allwe have, what would that be?
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And then that's what you articulated.So it's super cool. I was just
kind of observing the whole thing.It's like, oh, that's really awesome.
That's basically what I do in myjournal. All everybody follows me on
Instagram because I am always posting myselfjournal and you're like, what do you
actually write? Because I don't reallyuse the journal problems and people always ask
me to create journal promps. SometimesI do, but I just do that.
I like work through the things inreal time and then you untether them,
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and then another one comes up andthen you untether that, yeah,
and then you take action. AndI think that's a big piece. A
lot of people on tether and theyjust sit there and on the lily pad
and they go like, okay,you're untether now what. I don't know
how you can sit there because Iget these like bursts, like it's like
literally bubbling up inside of me,and it's like I have an idea and
it's like one week later it's inthe world, Like I just can't wait
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to bring it to fruition. Idon't know. Yeah, well, I
mean you know what happens is thereyou've found that slip stream of what it
means to manifest and manifest quickly,right, believe me. I mean,
and you've probably seen in your audienceas well, there are people who do
who who what their first step isto untether, And it takes so much
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energy to that first set of untetheringsthat you kind of have to rest a
little bit and then then be ableto find yourself, collect yourself and say
okay, now what because you've basicallyhelped them disconnect from the matrix. Yeah,
now they're like, uh wow,now what. Absolutely. Sometimes I
feel like my physical body is likeprocessing the limiting belief that I've I'm tathered.
(47:00):
While I'm sleeping, I'm being likeextra tired. I just notice like
there's been a big shift. I'mlike, Okay, I'm just physically releasing
this. I might feel all kindsof weird symptoms and I just say know
that, I'm like, okay,let that go, and then I will
take the action right. And sometimesit takes a day, you know.
Sometimes I find myself sometimes it's likeI'm going to do nothing today. Cancel
(47:22):
my appointments, assistant, I'm doingnothing today, and then that's all I
needed. Right. Sometimes it's halfa day. Who knows, you know,
but you know, but super cool. Well, you know what I
mean. As as expected, wetotally went over, but totally worth it.
Now someone's going to be listening toGuaranteed and say, oh, I
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totally want to learn more about Jacqueline. I want to go watch or speak.
I want to engage with her.I wanted to learn about our programs.
What is the best way that someonelistening to this as being inspired by
you can connect with you to godeeper or to just experience what it means
to be in Jacqueline's world. Yeah, my website would be the best place.
Everything's on there. It's Jacqueline Gallodot com, Jack and Gallow dot
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com and you can find that linkin the description below. So um,
Jacqueline, thank you so much.I am so excited about, you know,
being kind of like being able toobserve the rest of your journey.
I think it's going to be areally exciting one and so I'm so glad
we were able to connect this way. Um again, Yeah, there's there's
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just so much that I would loveto kind of like, um share with
you in terms of what based onwhat you're talking about and all the different
resources that this dinosaur has accumulated overhis life to be able to kind of
like pass on if I could anyway I could, But again, thank
you so much. We'd love tohave you back on as you go to
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multiple season a few seasons later,just to kind of see where you're at
if you're open to that as youneed to expand and grow, because yeah,
feel fun. I would love it. Thank you so much for having
me. Yeah, okay, great, So again, if you want to
connect with Jacqueline, click on thelink below, go to a website,
go explore Dear Due Diligence. Otherthan that, I think we are good.
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So thank you again, Jacqueline.Thank you, and that's it for
this episode. Thank you for listening, because you listening is what inspires our
guests and me to continue doing whatwe can to help untether and elevate more
human beings to new heights of prosperoussuccess. Now, if what you heard
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today inspired you to want to finallyuntether from the bad money stories or chronic
self sabotage behavior patterns that's been holdingyou back, then you'll want to join
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I think that it comes down tomentors, teachers, parents, coaches,
encouraging the failure and then saying whatdid you learn from this? How are
you going to change and having thoseconversations around It's not about failing to fail,
it's about failing to learn. Soif you don't do well on the
test, it's okay, what canyou learn from that? How can you
(00:21):
study better? Or how can youprepare better? Or if it's the sport,
can you change your swing or canyou do these things? I think
it's about that conversation, that reflection, and really seeing it as a tool.
I always define failure as either alesson or redirection. Hey it's way,
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and you're listening to Untethered and Prosperous, the podcast where we focus on
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wildly prosperous and successfully happy. Andthose two huge anchors are bad money stories
and chronic self sabotage. So whatwe do is have real and inspiring conversations
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with amazing entrepreneurs who have done justthat. So get ready to get untethered
and get prosperous. Hey it's wayand Welcome to another episode of Untethered and
Prosperous. What's all about helping youbecoming untethered from your bad money stories,
or your chronic self sabotage, orwhatever's holding you back from creating the most
(01:26):
prosperous life that you can. Andwhat we do is to bring on amazing
guests that will help inspire you towhat is possible. And today we have
someone who is amazing, who issuper young and vibrant, has been able
to make an amazing impact already,and so doesn't matter what age group you're
in, if you hear her story, you're going to be blown away.
(01:48):
Her name is Jacqueline Gallo and she'sthe CEO of Clarity and Action Consulting,
which is a woman's empowerment company ona mission to help women create lives they
love. And I think they're there'snot enough of that to go around,
so don't ever think that anybody's incompetition with you on that. She's also
a life coach, a two timesbest selling author, a tech speaker put
that on my list, and hostof the popular Spark Your Light podcast at
(02:14):
age twenty one. Because she's onlytwenty two now, you will if you
watch the video, you'll know whatI'm talking about. Super young looking.
Jacqueline started her business from her dormroom at Georgetown University, which is amazing
because while I was in university,in my dorm room, I usually I
was recovering from a hangover, butshe was starting a business. Today.
She has spoken at over one hundredand twenty five corporations, conferences, and
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universities in seven different countries. JaQuelhas been featured by Forbes, Elite Daily,
Bustle, and Washington Business Journal,and Good Morning Washington. Enough of
me reading her bio, Let's gether on the show. Jacqueline, Welcome
to the show. Thank you forhaving me. I'm really excited to be
here. Yeah, I do apre shape your patience with me getting things
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set up and everything before we startedgoing on the air, because you know,
like I was saying, today wasone of those days like why do
I have something so early? ButI'm glad you're the early appointment, because
any other appointment, I'd be like, I love it. I'm glad to
be the early appointment. So let'sstart the framework, because you know,
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everybody has a different definition what itmeans to become untethered. Everybody has a
different definition would it mean to beprosperous? And so to give our audience
some contexts and idea of what yourworld is like for you, Jocko,
what does it mean to become untetheredin as a human being going through life
as an entrepreneur? Yeah, Well, if you would have asked me this
(03:42):
question even a year ago, Iwould have had a very different answer.
I think my answer would have beenvery rooted in circumstances, very rooted in
if you have this much money topay for these things, or you have
you know, this much security.And I've evolved so much in that belief
(04:04):
system, and I've gotten to aplace where I really believe that it's about
an internal feeling. And I dothink that changes you can make in your
life, taking different actions, buildinga business, leaving a job you hate,
getting into a relationship that fulfills youright, all of these things that
I've done in my life and thata lot of my clients do. Taking
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care of your health right can helpcreate that feeling. But the problem that
most people experience, and I'm surethis is a big inspiration for the show,
is that the feeling keeps getting pushedout. Okay, first it was
one hundred thousand dollars a year,and then it's two hundred thousand, and
it's five thousand, and it's amillion. First it was lose ten pounds
and now it's twenty. First itwas get engaged, and then it's have
(04:50):
our wedding, and now it's havea baby. Right, it's always something
else, And so if you're onthat treadmill, you're never going to get
off it. And that's something I'velearned through the creation success, through the
manifestation of so many things I oncewanted I'm now living and I had to
let go of all of it.I had to surrender to creating that feeling
(05:11):
inside of me. And so thatfeeling that I get in my gut that
I'm enough in my life today exactlyas it is, is enough that's untethered
and prosperous to me. That's avery rich and free life. Yeah,
and I love that you said that, you know, even just a year
ago, and that says a lotabout your journey. And I think a
lot of entrepreneurs who really kind ofstep into that space of you know,
(05:33):
working on purpose or living on purpose, that you'll find that once you get
into that little slip stream, evolutionhappens very quickly, right from one year
to the next, and even fromthe last time we spoke till now,
probably some things I've shifted as well. I was actually thinking about how I
filled out that questionnaire with different problemsand challenges, and I'm like, oh,
I solve that a week ago.So funny. How you really do
(05:57):
grow so quickly as an entrepreneur.Yeah, And I think that's kind of
how you know you're on the righttrack. I think for some people it
might be a little bit scary tobe growing that quickly, because it's not
what we're taught. It's not howwe're raised to believe. Right, We're
waised to take the kind of likethe safe and secure and solid route,
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and then only to realize that's justa compensate for the lowest common denominator,
right, and then everybody else justhas to follow that just to make sure
everybody's okay, which, you know, to a certain degree, I think
it's remnant of our survival, right, survival kind of tactic. It's like,
okay, let's make sure no mangets left behind type of thing.
And at the same time, ifhumanity itself. I think I feel like
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kind of you're an example of that, which is, if we want to
step into a newer age of growthand evolution, we almost have to kind
of embrace that speed that you're demonstratinghere from one year to the next.
It's almost like when I was listeningto you just now, it sounded like
you were saying that all these thingsthat you were like last year, you're
talking about untethering from, you know, this, this belief that you have
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to work this way or have thisjob, or have this marriage, or
have this kid or what if thekids might be I'm tethering from that.
Those almost seem like metaphors of whatyou truly need to be untethering from,
which is like you're saying something withhim, is that I did pick up
what you're putting down there. Yeah, it's like I thought I needed to
untethering from like physical three D things, but really I needed to un from
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not feeling like enough I was enoughexactly where I am in my life today.
Yeah, that big enough piece soundslike it's not an uncommon thing.
I mean, I'm sure you seeit a lot in the women's empowerment work
is that helping women, you know, recognize that they are enough wherever they
are right now. Right, It'sso hard for people and it's so life
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changing when you can make that shift. Yeah, what do you think it
contributes to that, that that rhetoricor that narrative that a lot of us
end up growing up with. Doyou think it's academic system? Is that
culture is our society? What doyou think it is? Yeah, I
definitely think there is a huge problemin our society, in our academic system,
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in parenting in a really non intentionalway, but a way that does
impact us, that pushes us tobe afraid of failure. Right, Like
you get a bad grade in school, you fail the test, you have
to have a meeting with the teacher. You are going to be able to
advance the next grade if you,you know, strike out when you're playing
the sport, right, you're playingbaseball or softball, and then you have
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to talk with your coach. Youknow, you got to fix your swing
or this or that. It's rarethat there are are conversations with children around
failure being a good thing, failureteaching you. And if we seek to
avoid that, then we just sayin our comfort zone, and when we're
in our comfort zone, we're reallymissing the point of life. To me,
the point of life isn't to behappy all the time. I think
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that's a myth and a misconception thata lot of people have. It's to
grow, it's to feel fulfilled throughthe process of growth, through the process
of becoming a better version of yourselfand achieving your goals. Now, achieving
your goals and living in this goaloriented society, especially in the United States,
can be really empowering. But becausepeople have this lens of but I
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can't fail, then they inevitably pullthem back right, So it's this push
pull, pushed pull, and thensometimes they get over that hump up,
Okay, you know what, it'sokay to fail because I'm going to get
here and want to get there.I'll be enough and I'll be happy.
So they're missing the whole point ofovercoming that. They're not really overcoming the
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belief. They're just replacing one poorbelief with another poor belief that maybe is
a little bit better but still reallylimits them in their ability to feel like
their enough. Yeah, and thenat what point, I mean, we
can imagine that if people say,okay, great, Well, there's an
argument that may come up then says, well, if we're nurturing this failure,
at what point do we want tomake sure that we're also not breeding
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a sense of entitlement that I cando no wrong and there's no lesson to
be learned. I can fail anytimeI want because there's no consequence and and
I don't mean consequence from a badstandpoint, like there's like a cause and
effect type of circumstance, you know, because those that truly understand the value
of failure are the ones who said, Okay, I completely you know,
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screwed the pooch on this one.Are what are the lessons from this?
But I think I think there's afine line that we want to make sure,
as you know, for future generationsthat if we're going to nurture that
piece, you know, what isthat fine line that's that doesn't then breed
to like entitlement you know what Imean? Doesn't make sense? Yeah,
I think that it comes down tomentors, teachers, parents, coaches,
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encouraging the failure and then saying whatdid you learn from this? How are
you going to change? And havingthose conversations around It's it's not about failing
to fail. It's about failing tolearn. So if you don't do well
on the test, it's okay,what can you learn from that? How
can you study better? Or howcan you prepare better? Or if it's
the sport, you know, canyou change your swing or can you do
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these things? I think it's aboutthat conversation, that reflection, and really
seeing it as a tool. Ialways define failure as either a lesson or
redirection. So if it's not workingout and you've given it, you're all
and you've learned the lessons, maybeyou're being guided in a different direction,
right, or maybe there's a necessarylesson in it and helping people to really
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take the time to slow down andreflect rather than just saying, okay,
I failed. Oh well this doesn'tmatter, right, Okay, I think
someone picked me up and what mybutt? You know exactly exactly. I
think it's the mentorship. Yeah,yeah, And we see a lot of
that, and it's unfortunate because I'msitting there going no, no, no,
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this is an opportunity for you,right, And I love this conversation
because there's a mantra that I equippedto my all my students and clients all
the time. It's like we learnwe learned everything from our failures. We
learned nothing from our successes, becauseour successes only demonstrate our ability to learn
having learned from our failures, right, it's as proof that we learned something,
right, you know. And Isee a lot of my peers and
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go growing up in and especially havinga lot of Asian family friends, there
was this always pushed for academic successand this I was always compared to this
kid who never failed. I was, you know, he always got straight
as he was perfect across the board. And then I noticed something really interesting
that there was one time later inlife that he completely failed at something,
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and it it almost felt like itthrottled into a state of massive depression because
he failed at one time. AndI sat there and back then I didn't
realize what I was payment I waslooking at. I was like going,
what is going on with him?What's what does he have to here?
I am like failing all over theplace, right, and I'm already used
to that. I'm like going,okay, great, And I didn't even
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realize I was learning and growing fromeach one and being more dynamic and being
a broader spectrum of tolerability in mylife. But I'm looking at him,
was like, what does he haveto worry about? Oh boo hoo,
he failed once? So what lookat his entire life. It's amazing.
Yeah, and it's his lens fromseeing his entire life as yeah, not
enough because one failure. Yeah,and I think that happened to me too
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when I was little, I missedthat one gold star my dad. Okay,
so get this, tacklin. Mydad had this, this amazing academic
career. Can you imagine going throughlife and having one hundred percent academic career
your entire life, from like themoment you were born till you went got
your PhD. One hundred percent.It was so impossible that one of his
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professors in university gave him a ninetynine percent because his philosophy was, I
can't give you a hundred percent eventhough you got one hund percent, because
what would that make me as aprofessor. I was like, ooh,
ego, okay, so gave mydad a nine nine percent just because he's
a student, not the professor.But anyway, that was the shoes I
had to fill. Those are theshoes I had to fill when I was
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going, like, can you imaginewhen I missed my first gold Star?
I was like devastated. Fortunately Ihit it really early in life, so
I became imperfect really early. Ican't imagine. It puts a lot of
pressure on children. Yeah, yeah, so speaking of that, No,
we're not speaking of that. ButI know you're married now and I don't
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know any children in the future now, But let's talk about what you would
define for Jacqueline, because that's themost one of the most subjective definitions is
the definition of prosperous life or prosperity. What would you define as Jacqueline's life
of prospers What it means to beprosperous, you know, specifically for you,
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I think it means to be prosperousin all the areas that are values
of mine. So prosperous in ourfine as, prosperous in our love,
prosperous in our family, prosperous inour ability to see the world and travel,
prosperous in our quality time with friends, Prosperous in our careers and the
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work we do. Prosperous and ourability to be generous and make an impact
in the world. So it's reallynot just about the wealth category. That
is one piece of the pie forme, but it really is creating prosperity
in all areas and really having itall. I think it's something that we're
told we can't and I think there'sa lot of validity in that statement.
Right, you can't have your neededto You're gonna have to put in work,
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and I think there's a lot ofentitlement as we talked about earlier.
But I do think at the endof the day, we can create a
life where we do have it all, and we have to understand what are
our values and what does it actuallymean to us? So then I could
unpack each of those categories right evenfurther and what actually doesn't mean to be
prosperous and family, what actually doesit mean to be prosperous in our finances
is um and I think that thatthat's the work. Yeah, you know,
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it's funny that you say that haveyour cake and eat it too.
I don't know who made that thatphrase, probably someone who was gluten fall
or something like that, because itdoesn't make any sense. Why would you
buy cake and not eat it?So true, I need to google where
that came from because that's just seriouslynever made sense to me. I was
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like, what do you mean youcan't eat the cake that you got?
What seriously, cake? Don't eatit? But yeah, so so being
you know, being as successful asyou are now or you know, on
your way to even more success.Give me an example what that looks like
when you're a prosperous in your family, life, your friends, like your
relationship and everything all at once.Because I think a lot of the challenges
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that are a lot of entrepreneurs facesthat there tends to be always something kind
of an imbalanced and they're constantly likeit's like that video game where you're running
to fill up this side and youget to run over fill it this side
and feel it this side. Whatdo we do to complete the wheel during
our entire journey? I think that'sthat's something that you're basically saying, is
that, you know, why gothrough this journey of constantly chasing when you
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can have different version of completeness asyou grow? Is is that what I'm
getting from you? Yeah, Like, I feel prosperous right now in all
those categories, and I know thatI'm only going to feel more prosperous as
I continue to evolve. I thinkit's a really great question about how do
you create that balance that people seek. And I think the first thing that's
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important is to understand that there aredifferent seasons of life, just like there
are four different seasons in the year. There's a time for winter, there's
a time for summer, and soyou know, currently I'm in a different
season than I was in even twomonths ago, and I don't know how
long it's going to last. ButI'm open to what this season holds and
what this season looks like for mylife, for my husband's life, for
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our finances, for my business,for our family right and for all these
different categories. And I think it'sabout intentional reflection around the categories. I've
heard it said before in the bookThe five Love Language is about love.
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Is your love tankful? And Ithink it can be applied to all the
categories. So I can just doan assessment on any given week is my
love tankful and have conversations around that. If you know there's someone else involved,
For example, with a relationship,it's like okay for me and my
love tank feels full when we goon at least one day to week and
when we spend even fifteen minutes beforebed talking about our days, even if
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we had a really busy day,and that's really important to me. So
I communicate that how did I figurethat out through not having those needs met?
Through feeling man, I feel likewe don't see each other that much.
We're so busy right through experimenting,So it's going to take time and
reflection to figure it out. Samein each category. So in my business,
what helps me feel fulfilled? Ilove doing podcast interviews, I love
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coaching clients. I love traveling tospeak. How can I integrate those things?
And then again with the seasons,It's like in the summer, I
don't travel to speak a lot.There's just not a lot going on,
and so I have a much slowerseason of business, Whereas for some reason
October is like the craziest month everOctober. In April I get super busy
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and that's part of that season.And so I look at the categories and
ask myself, is that tankful?And I have full clarity on what's important
to me? What are my values? So with my health, how many
times do I want to work outa week? And what does that look
like? And what's my commitment evenon the busy weeks, and how can
I fit that in? And thenonce you have that sort of assessment and
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you are able to adjust in realtime through the different seasons. I think
the final piece of it is beingpresent with each thing you're in. So
when I'm working, when I'm onthis interview, I'm fully here, right,
You're giving my heart and soul andfeeling fulfilled. When I am on
a date tonight, I'm going tobe fully there and giving my heart and
soul to that. And so ithelps me. Even though, as you
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know, we got on this call, I came from a client call.
I said, I have to goto the bathroom, but I didn't.
Right, it can be fast paced, and so I was there here and
then it was in the bathroom,and then it was here again. Even
though it's fast paced, when Iget there, even if things are back
to back, I'm there. AndI think that really helps you with yeah,
and being as the shift gears,I think you just learned how to
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shift gears as necessary, right,And I think you know, even going
to the bathroom is a great littlekind of pause in between, right,
so that you can honor nature andthen come back to you right. You
know what, I what I reallylike about this is that you know it
has it probably will help someone thinkabout well, I think a question that
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would come up is what if you'vebeen so empty for so long that you
don't even know how to begin andto fill that? And I'm sure doing
women's empowerment work, you probably seeyour fair share of that piece where there's
some part of the tank that hasbeen like on fumes for a really long
time to the point where they're like, you know, we see this when
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people are burnt down. Its likecan you what do you want? It's
like I don't know what I want. I just want to sleep, or
you know that type of thing thatthey can't even wrap their head around about
what would contribute or be part oftheir prosperous life. And this is why
I like to ask that question sothat it could hopefully inspire someone to say,
oh, yeah I want that oryeah I want it, Because if
they spent their entire lives not wantingthat or not feeling that they could want
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that, how do they then rediscoverthat piece? You know, how do
they get their groove back? Soto speak? It's a great question.
It reminds me of this concept thatAbraham Hicks teaches called the emotional guidance scale,
which is basically a scale of youremotions from really high level ones which
are very high vibrations, very lowlevel ones which are very low vibration.
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And part of the concept is thatit's very, very difficult to climb from
a really low emotion to a reallyhigh one. So a lot of people
feel depressed, feel like they arecompletely powerless or a victim of their circumstances,
and they say, well, howcan I feel empowered? Well,
that's not really a realistic shift.You have to climb the scale and maybe
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get to a place where you feelbored, and then maybe you'll get to
a place where you feel neutral,and then maybe you'll get to a place
where you feel hope, and thenfrom hope, maybe you'll feel gratitude,
and so you're able to climb thatscale. And so I recommend applying that
concept in a really tangible way whereyou just ask yourself, Okay, if
I had to do something because sitting, if you're burnout, absolutely rest,
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slow down. But I know frompersonal experience, because I have experienced bouts
of feeling really low, just throughthis entrepreneurial journey and sitting and doing nothing
for days and days, days anddays doesn't help you feel any better.
And sometimes when I'm having a badday, I don't want to go for
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a walk, I don't want tosit and read a book. But these
are things that I personally know helpme through experience. So looking back at
your past experience, those might notbe the things for you. But looking
back and saying, okay, haveI ever felt this way before? And
what tends to help me start tofeel just a little bit better. So
don't try to feel one hundred percent. But if you're feeling like you're at
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negative ten, what would make youfeel like negative eight? Maybe? And
they come to mind, and youmight be like, no, I want
to take a nice long bath,or you know, I'd love to plan
a lunch with it my good friendand just chat about life. That always
helps me. Whatever it is.Start there, and then one step at
a time, you're going to startto climb in the scale. And the
thing that happens is now you're ata negative eight, it becomes a little
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easier to think about, well,what would get me to a negative five.
So when I'm on that when I'mhaving that day where I'm feeling sit
down and I'm like, you knowwhat, let me just go for a
walk. Then all of a sudden, I'm like, you know what,
maybe I should do to take thisaction in my business, and maybe I
should do this, And before Iknow it, Yeah, I'm at it,
positive elevating. Yeah, exactly.So I think it's really about not
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expecting yourself to feel better overnight,obviously, paired with processing your emotions.
If you have trauma, you needtherapy or any kind of professional help go
get that right, Paired with takingthe action steps one step at a time.
They're going to help you there toclimb that emotional guidance system. Yeah,
it sounds a lot like you whatthis discussion reminds me of doctor David
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Hawkins Power versus Force matrix, youknow, where he actually maps out exactly
what you know Hicks was talking about, which is the different level, so
you know kind of very clearly whatlevel you should be shooting for next in
terms of that, I don't knowif you've ever read that book or not.
No I haven't, but I'll haveOh my god. Yeah, it's
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and there's a frequency thing and ourtechnology helps people calculate that frequency. It's
it's a whole thing. But anyway, yeah, it's a phenomen nominal thing.
You would love it since you alreadyare on board with this type of
progression. You would absolutely love thatbook because it will show you that and
I can tell you more later.But anyway, yeah, I love that
because that's so helpful for a lotof people who think that you know,
and that's unfortunate the social media world, we find ourselves comparing way beyond sometimes
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our next step that it actually disenchantsthe journey, so to speak, it
keeps us stuck. And I thinkit's something really important that we want to
remind people that it's just about takingthat next, first, next best step.
And like you're saying, I lovethat. It's like from negative eight,
what negative ten? What would ittake to get a negative eight?
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And then like you're saying that,once you get into this, there's a
momentum that happens, So it doesn'tmean that it's all linear. You can
suddenly boom, burst out of thewater and next thing you know, you're
in sunshine. You're like, okay, great, I'm on top of the
water now. Yes, absolutely,And I think This is also really important
we talk about goal setting. Ialways have people, you know, how
do I set better goals? Andthey want of course you know this.
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People are seeking this like one wayand this one strategy that just works every
day for every person. It justdoesn't exist, right. There's lots of
strategies and there's lots of ways.And it's so funny because I'm one person,
and in season winter I need onestrategy and in the summer season I
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need a different strategy, And sothere's not even one way that necessarily will
work for you. But when wetalk about goals, when I see clients
who are at a place where they'refeeling a little bit helpless. There may
be feeling like, man, I'vetried before, and is this going to
really work? And maybe, likeyou said, they're comparing themselves to someone
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who's way ahead of them on socialmedia. It can be really helpful to
set just that next step goal aswell. So the tangible. If you're
talking about your business, Let's sayyou're making two thousand dollars a month and
you really want to be making tenthousand, but you can't even imagine making
four thousand. Maybe you set agoal to make three thousand a month and
you are all like, okay,how can I make an extra thousand dollars?
Now of a sudden, you havenew ideas, you start taking new
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actions, and then when you getto that three thousand, it becomes a
lot easier to set the goal forfour thousand, and before you know it,
you will be at ten thousand,as opposed to setting the goal for
ten thousand feeling discouraged and then nottaking any action at all. So I
want to mention that too. Ifyou're kind of relating to that emotional state,
that might be a good goal settingstrategy for you as well. Yeah.
Absolutely, it's a progression thing,right, I think I think we
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call those milestones right to hit thebigger goal, to break it down so
that way you don't, you know, make the chasm so large that it's
like I can't I can't leap acrossa thousand meters, but look there's all
these little steps in between. It'slike, oh I can do that.
Yeah exactly. And it's so greatto tie it to a real metaphor,
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like if you've ever trained for anything, and if you haven't, I would
encourage you too, because it's sucha powerful process. But like running a
marathon is a great sample. Iremember I was like, oh my gosh,
miles, right, and then everyweek I ran a few more miles
on my long run day, andbefore I knew it, I run twenty
six miles. And if you askedme today to go outside and run twenty
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six miles, I can't do it. I need to drink. But I
do know that I could, thatI could get there, and it's it's
just such a beautiful experience to beable to like have that in your body.
And then no, you can applythat to business too, or any
goal you have. Yeah, Imean really, everything that we experience in
life is a potential metaphor sounds likethat, a potential learning opportunity, right,
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And I think when when we,especially as entrepreneurs, approached life that
way, it's so much richer onso many different levels, like we can
take and it's so much easier totake responsibility for some of the choices that
we'd make, you know, thatare good or bad or even ugly.
Right, So very cool. Well, at this point people are probably listening
going, what the heck does shedo? So let's talk a little bit
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more about about that. I know, I know, and you were going
to spin off on a variety differentthing. It's so good to be able
to talk to, you know,people in the same wavelength. So tell
us more about where you are today, the level success you have achieved,
and more importantly, what was itthat what was the biggest untethering that needed
to happen for you to have theprosper success you have today. Yeah,
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that's at a young age. Greatquestion. So today, what my business
looks like. I do want onone life coaching. I run one life
coaching program to group infinite potential,you know, can have as many people.
It's sort of like an online course, but I teach it live and
I coach live, and that's kindof the life coaching side of my business,
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I guess you could say. Andthen the speaking side, I speak
about forty times a year. Itravel a lot, I do some virtual
and I speak a lot at collegesand then also at companies, at conferences
things like that. And I write. I've written two books and I'm working
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on my third. And that's justreally a fun way for me to kind
of share these next level evolutions withthe world. It hasn't yet become a
thriving income stream because you only makeyou know, a few dollars on every
book, but I send someday thatit will be the biggest In terms of
like the business side of my business. The biggest income streams are speaking and
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coaching, both through the one onone in the group program. And I
build a really solid business where Ifeel very supportive. It feels scalable.
It took me a long time toget to this place. Had a lot
that's relative too. What's a longtime because you're talking to someone who's a
bit of a dinosaur right now,and I'm just getting catch that you're dinosaur,
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which is relative. Well six years, yeah, years, and you're
feels like well because at the levelof growth you've probably gone through, it
feels like a long time. Butsix years really nothing. I mean,
I think a lot of people whohave been sometimes a lot of people have
been like ten years or fifteen yearsjust to create a six figure business,
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right yeah, and you've you've beendoing that. But now granted you started
when you're in college, you alreadyhad that ambition built in and stuff like
that. I think a lot ofwhat you do is to help people expedite
that process as well. But yeah, so so I think it's I think
it's I think it's fantastic. Imean in terms of what you've been able
to achieve. Now, have weseen it in different timelines? Sure,
but you're at you're at a pointright now. It sounds like where you're
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just beginning and multiple six figures ison its way. And I'm sure before
you know, before you're even fortyor forty three. I think in our
world, adulthood isn't until forty three. Anyway, I'll tell you more about
that. You're probably going to bewell into the seven figure mark. And
I talk about those figures to helppeople kind of like anchor into realizing just
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kind of the path that you're on, but not so much for the financial
gain. But if you haven't payingattention, you will realize that if I
gave Jacqueline a million dollars right now, she probably pay it forward to create
greater impact versus just like I'm goingto buy myself an a Ventador, a
Lambo or like a Ferrari or somethinglike that. Right. Yeah, And
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it feels really cool to be ata place where I feel confident if my
business made a million dollars this year, or if you gave me a gift
of a million dollars, I couldmanage it. I feel responsible, I
feel ready for that next level.And that only came from so much mindset
work in the now, managing nowwith each level and each different step of
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growth that has really supported that.So what was the biggest untethering that needed
to happen and for you to reallybe able to step into this level success
because I think a lot of peoplefind themselves shackled to something that is that
they can't seem to wrap their headsaround. And you know, seemed to
that level success that you're experiencing iskind of elusive to a lot of people
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out there. And that's again,it could be like six to seven,
seventy eight figures, whatever, itdoesn't matter. So in twenty eighteen,
to give you some context, Ionly made eleven thousand dollars in my business.
I had already tried to build aproduct that failed. I then tried
to make an app that was failing, and I was doing a little bit
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of health coaching, which is soironic because I didn't even consider myself.
I got it coaching certification just soI could make money to fund my app,
which is so ironic, and that'swhere the eleven thousand came from,
and that was revenue, not profit. Was very deep into the next gives
and twenty nineteen was almost like overnightsuccess, even though I had been working
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on this now for twenty sixteenth threeyears, and everything kind of shot up.
And that transition to go from thateleven thousand to my first six figure
year came in the untethering of metrying to be something I wasn't. It
came in really allowing myself to leaninto what I was naturally good at and
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ask myself, how can I makemoney doing the things I'm naturally good at
and the things that are already working. So the things I knew I was
naturally good at is because they wereworking. So at the time I had
really a rock bottom moment where Iwas like, nothing is working. I
should just give up my business.And I came across this question in some
book I was reading. I don'teven remember what book. I wish I
did so I could attribute it tothis, But I had read so many
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personal development self help books at thetime, feeling like my whole world was
crumbling and the question was what isworking? And at first I said nothing,
That's why I'm reading this book.And then I started to think more
and more and really look at thebusiness I had, and I realized that
one thing that was working was speaking. So I was traveling to colleges in
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the area and I was giving atalk. I was calling it marketing,
and I was talking about this appI was building. I was talking about
how I had an eating disorder incollege and that's what inspired me to create
this wellness app for women. AndI would get these messages from women who
are in the audience after my talk. Oh my gosh, this helped me
so much. This inspired me,I'm going to get professional help for my
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eating disorder. Or I'm so inspiredby you pursuing your dreams, I'm going
to change my major. And Ijust kind of discounted that what's really interesting
about our brains as our particular activatingsystem filters based on our thoughts and beliefs.
So I had programmed the filter tosay that those things weren't important,
they didn't matter because they weren't makingme money, they weren't building my app.
Just put them on the beta testerlist and move on. Right.
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But once I had really looked atit, I realized that maybe that's something
that I'm really good at. Maybethis is something that I have a natural
talent apt, maybe this was aGod given gift. I'm very spiritual,
and I feel that we all giftsand sort of our duty to use those
gifts in the world to make theworld a better place. And if this
is one of my own, especiallyonce I found out that public speaking is
number one fear in the world andit's not something that I really get afraid
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of, maybe I should use it. So that's when I started trusting the
inspired actions to Okay, take acourse on this, start learning about this,
and very quickly I had booked myselffor many speeches, booked my first
speaking tour, which led to lifecoaching because after my speeches, I would
have mostly speaking at colleges at thetime, students come up to me and
say, Hey, can you helpme with X, Y or Z.
And I was like, let mefigure out this life coaching thing. And
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that was really the breakthrough to buildinga business that was financially prosperous in the
industry that I'm in. It hasgone through many evolutions and many more untetherings
get to the place where it istoday. But without that big untethering and
that sort of almost like exponential growth, I wouldn't be able to be where
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I am today now. And Ilove that identification of that because you have
no idea and to be able tounderstand that at this point in your life
is such a huge step up forthose because you have no idea. How
many multi millionaires walk into my officeand they will sit there and they have
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no idea why they're waking up unfulfilledand unhappy despite making millions, you know,
and it doesn't matter. And atthat point, money is just a
number, whether it be six,seven or eight. And I even have
people said, what what would yougive up? What would you be willing
to trade? Not that you haveto so that you know why you're here
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or you know what it's going totake to be happy or to feel on
purpose. And that untethering from tryingto be something that you're not, I
think is something that so many ofus have been raised to believe. Now
I get it at some point thatwhen we don't know, we don't know,
so we're just being guided in thebest way we can. Right our
parents tell us, our teachers tellus, and then so to survive,
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right, we mimic and we emulateas best we can. It's just that
we're not taught to. Then atsome point shed the mask and shed that,
shed those different costumes so that wecan truly see what if we have
grown to become right, And Ithink it's so cool that you were able
to do that, and I lovethat you did the air quotes on overnight
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success when most people don't realize it'snever an overnight success. It's usually like,
you know, five, ten,twenty, maybe a lifetime up to
that point. Right, people thoughtKentucky Fried Chicken Colonel Sanders is an overnight
success. That dude was sixty buthe hit it. But he spent all
his life just like completely failing everywhere. He's had this last last leg so
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to speak, last chicken legs,so to speak, and then he finally
went there and he didn't create it, didn't He didn't success till sixty,
which is fascinating to me. It'sinspiring. It's inspiring to know because I
think some people hear my story andfeel like, oh, well, you
started when you're so young, LikeI already missed the boat on that and
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it's like, no, that wasmy divine timing of my life, because
there's something I'm supposed to do atthis time in my life. And there's
something you're supposed to do at whatevertime you're at in your life. And
that's why you're having this phone,that's why you're listening to this episode.
That's why you're feeling these intuitive nudgesand you get to trust in honor the
timing of your life. Yeah,No, I love that. It's so
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good. So many gemstones dropped onthis episode. It's so awesome. So,
so what's next for you? Youknow, and you are what you
are, and I love to seewhat the next big expansion, the next
big leap is for Jacqueline, right, and more importantly, what would you
say would be the next big untetheringthat you recognize that you will that needs
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to happen in order for you tohave what it is that next big leap
is like if that was untethered liketoday, you would have it like tomorrow
type of Yeah, the next bigleap is reaching way more people in all
the areas. So I see myselfspeaking on stages with twenty thirty thousand people
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in the audience. I see myselfhaving thousands and thousands of people in my
coaching program. I see myself noselling thousands of copies of my books,
just really impacting ten times the amountof people that I'm impacting right now.
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And it's funny because when I filledout the initial questionnaire for the show,
what I wrote about this untethering was, I think I needed to untethered that
it could happen tomorrow, like there'salways this mindset. Somewhere in my six
year journey, I switched and thiswas a positive shift at the time,
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from microwave culture to a long termmindset, which meant that I stopped chasing
the next dollar, I stopped chasingthe next client, and I started thinking
about where do I want to bein ten years. And I think a
big part of this was getting married, wanting to have a family someday,
thinking about, Okay, well,what's my life going to look like when
I have kids, and how doI want that to look at Really being
then archetype architect of my life forcedme to get into the long term mindset,
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and that was a healthy untethering,but then created a new untethering that
needed to happen, which is tobelieve, to hold this believe that while
I have the long term mindset,the opportunities are here and I'm ready now,
right. And I actually think overthe past few weeks, I've really
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untethered that. I mean, maybenot to the extreme level of like,
you know, could I imagine,you know, what do you believe is
possible for you tomorrow? Right?Could I imagine that a hundred people sign
up for my coaching program? Yeah, totally right. Maybe I couldn't imagine
ten thousand, right, but Icould imagine more than ten. And so
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it's really amazing how the power ofvisualization and the power of just really seeing
yourself where you want to be canhelp untether that. But then I wonder,
Okay, well, why don't Ihave the say, hundred right now?
Maybe I will next week? Right, So what's what's the current untethering?
And what comes up for me inthis moment is the current untethering is
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really believing that I can have thatwhere I am today. So I think
it's like this part of me thatbelieves I could have a hundred people if
it's like conditional, right. Ihave an Instagram reel that goes viral.
If my spending breau books me fora gig with ten thousand people, if
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right, Like, there's all thesethings that could happen. But what about
with the six thousand people that followme today? What if one hundred decided
that they want to change their lifeand join this program, or what if
you know, the thousand people onmy email list decide that they ten percent
of them want to join, forexample. So I think that's a really
powerful I'm tethering for me currently tobelieve that nothing has to change. It's
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kind of like the happinest thing.Nothing needs to change for me to feel
happier enough, nothing needs to changefor my business to get to that next
level. I think there's a healthchange, right change. Yeah, It's
like, yeah, it's like adecision, right, that's decision that you
made. I mean, this iswhat what you're talking about is actually something
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closer to lines of how do youshift to living a life on a quantum
level, because you know the quantumexistence that they talk about and with all
the quantum computing that's all happening.I just saw a really cool video from
the Physics Girl on YouTube. Alittle quick litt shout out to I love
her. She she was talking abouthow Google used their quantum computers to produce
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a time crystal, a crystal thatis perpetually when light is you know,
flowing through it, that stays inmotion. It's like a perpetually emotion as
long as there's some kind of alight source coming through it or something like
that, which is fascinating. Butanyway, I mean, this is the
kind of like the world that we'reliving to and if human beings are able
to kind of keep up what you'redescribing, there is that quantum shift in
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creation into you know, going pastthat rhetoric, of that conditional rhetoric and
just recognizing that it's as easy asa flip, because you know, the
flow of energy and money and everythinglike that transcends space and time. So
it doesn't really care about the timing. It's human beings that care because otherwise
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we can't we can't handle it ifwe don't have the structures in place,
right So, you know, andI love the way that you're describing it,
because if for those of you arelistening, what you're what you're listening
to right now is called agility.You know, her, Jacqueline, you
being as present as you are isdemonstrating an example of what it means to
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be agile in your life so thatyou have a high level resilience. So
like being present to what is now, Like I loved Allison and watching you
and say, okay, you youbasically got yourself to if I was to
entere something right now, being presentto what is present to you right now
in this moment, because that's allwe have, what would that be?
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And then that's what you articulated.So it's super cool. I was just
kind of observing the whole thing.It's like, oh, that's really awesome.
That's basically what I do in myjournal. All everybody follows me on
Instagram because I am always posting myselfjournal and you're like, what do you
actually write? Because I don't reallyuse the journal problems and people always ask
me to create journal promps. SometimesI do, but I just do that.
I like work through the things inreal time and then you untether them,
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and then another one comes up andthen you untether that, yeah,
and then you take action. AndI think that's a big piece. A
lot of people on tether and theyjust sit there and on the lily pad
and they go like, okay,you're untether now what. I don't know
how you can sit there because Iget these like bursts, like it's like
literally bubbling up inside of me,and it's like I have an idea and
it's like one week later it's inthe world, Like I just can't wait
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to bring it to fruition. Idon't know. Yeah, well, I
mean you know what happens is thereyou've found that slip stream of what it
means to manifest and manifest quickly,right, believe me. I mean,
and you've probably seen in your audienceas well, there are people who do
who who what their first step isto untether, And it takes so much
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energy to that first set of untetheringsthat you kind of have to rest a
little bit and then then be ableto find yourself, collect yourself and say
okay, now what because you've basicallyhelped them disconnect from the matrix. Yeah,
now they're like, uh wow,now what. Absolutely. Sometimes I
feel like my physical body is likeprocessing the limiting belief that I've I'm tathered.
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While I'm sleeping, I'm being likeextra tired. I just notice like
there's been a big shift. I'mlike, Okay, I'm just physically releasing
this. I might feel all kindsof weird symptoms and I just say know
that, I'm like, okay,let that go, and then I will
take the action right. And sometimesit takes a day, you know.
Sometimes I find myself sometimes it's likeI'm going to do nothing today. Cancel
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my appointments, assistant, I'm doingnothing today, and then that's all I
needed. Right. Sometimes it's halfa day. Who knows, you know,
but you know, but super cool. Well, you know what I
mean. As as expected, wetotally went over, but totally worth it.
Now someone's going to be listening toGuaranteed and say, oh, I
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totally want to learn more about Jacqueline. I want to go watch or speak.
I want to engage with her.I wanted to learn about our programs.
What is the best way that someonelistening to this as being inspired by
you can connect with you to godeeper or to just experience what it means
to be in Jacqueline's world. Yeah, my website would be the best place.
Everything's on there. It's Jacqueline Gallodot com, Jack and Gallow dot
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com and you can find that linkin the description below. So um,
Jacqueline, thank you so much.I am so excited about, you know,
being kind of like being able toobserve the rest of your journey.
I think it's going to be areally exciting one and so I'm so glad
we were able to connect this way. Um again, Yeah, there's there's
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just so much that I would loveto kind of like, um share with
you in terms of what based onwhat you're talking about and all the different
resources that this dinosaur has accumulated overhis life to be able to kind of
like pass on if I could anyway I could, But again, thank
you so much. We'd love tohave you back on as you go to
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multiple season a few seasons later,just to kind of see where you're at
if you're open to that as youneed to expand and grow, because yeah,
feel fun. I would love it. Thank you so much for having
me. Yeah, okay, great, So again, if you want to
connect with Jacqueline, click on thelink below, go to a website,
go explore Dear Due Diligence. Otherthan that, I think we are good.
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So thank you again, Jacqueline.Thank you, and that's it for
this episode. Thank you for listening, because you listening is what inspires our
guests and me to continue doing whatwe can to help untether and elevate more
human beings to new heights of prosperoussuccess. Now, if what you heard
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today inspired you to want to finallyuntether from the bad money stories or chronic
self sabotage behavior patterns that's been holdingyou back, then you'll want to join
our exclusive, members only private podcastthat dive deeper into the topics discussed here,
along with more actionable strategies, tips, and trainings. Just click on
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