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Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's time for the Unexed News news extraterrestrials, time anomalies,
dimension dimensions, remote viewing, UFOs, UAPs and USO's, ghostly encounters, abductions,
Bigfoot and more more, your end of the week news
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source for everything everything unexplained. Here is your host for
the unex News podcast, Margie k.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good evening and welcome to Unexed News. I'm your host,
Margie Ka, and we have a fantastic show for you
this evening. I do want to mention please take a
look at a special report that I am posting on
YouTube shortly after this broadcast. And what you see here
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is a witnesses drawing of the very strange UFO that
he just recently saw in Kansas City, North and it's
being investigated by Moufon. It's an extremely unusual case with
a close encounter, so check that out. Also, one of
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as well. My guest this evening is Ella Labine. She
is originally from New York City and was educated in Israel.
She received a social sciences degree from the Biological Research
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Center of the NIGEV in nineteen seventy nine, a department
of Ben Gurion University, where she was schooled in Biblical
Hebrew and science, and then went on to receive an
astronomy degree from the Hayden Planetarium in New York City
in nineteen eighty eight, where she began her serious study
of cosmology. She spent two years working as a counselor
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and social worker assisting missionaries in apartheid South Africa during
the early nineteen eighties. Her close encounters caused her to
dig deeper into what has become a forty five year
journey to get the truth about UFOs, aliens, ets, gods
and angels and how they all fit into our end
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time scenario. Welcome to the program, Ella.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Hi Margie, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Good well, I'm so glad you could join me this evening,
and you look wonderful and I love your background. That's
just perfect. You are a very busy lady. Let's go.
Let's go back to the time very first time you
had a close encounter. Can you explain what that was like?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, it was in the Negev Desert in July of
nineteen seventy nine, about three o'clock in the afternoon, broad daylight,
heat of the summer. I wasn't under any influence. I
was just reading and hanging out in the sun and
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this being came out of the sunlight, walked kind of
walked towards me and said, I am the Messiah. Follow me,
and I was gobsmacked and disappeared. And I was eighteen
years old, so you know that got me digging down
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rabbit holes. Who was he? After? I just graduated and
you know, I was raised Jewish and Jews are not
supposed to believe in Jesus. But he looked like Jesus.
Didn't say it was Jesus. He just said he was
the Messiah. So I had to find out who he was.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Okay, Well, so that was your first encounter. What has
happened since then? What encounters have you had.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, I, you know, that was like the first awake
encounter conscious. But you know, when I was two years old,
I was getting abducted from my crib and my parents
used to talk about it. So that's how it stayed
in my memory because they used to find me upside
down with nosebleeds, and you know, the sheets were all bloody,
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so they used to like talk about it and complain, Oh,
they got to change the sheets again. And I would
wake up with these little bumps and these little you know,
like almost like little beb like implants. And so one
thing led to another. To make a long story short,
and you know, when I finally realized that this was
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this ancient being, okay, who I'm connecting dots to in
my present book, The Cosmic Slingshot that's coming out this spring,
that was recorded in the Bible as Melchizedek, who in
Hebrew means the king of righteousness. But this was an
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enigmatic figure who had no genealogy. They didn't know where
he came from, and there was no record of his death.
He just kind of came and went and showed up
at different times along the timeline. And so, long story short,
I put piece this together and found out that Yeshua,
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who most English speakers know as Jesus, is the reincarnation
of this ancient king. And so how that relates to
my abductions was that he freed me from them. That's
pretty much what happened, because I had no control over
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what was happening, especially as a two year old. It
lasted all the way up until my thirties and early forties,
and I just I had had enough of it. I
was suffering from needle phobia and insomnia and sleep paralysis,
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you know, all the classic things that happened to abductees,
missing pregnancies, and I just couldn't find my way out
of it. So I remembered my experience in the desert,
reached out and you know, if you're real, if you're there,
then just save me, because I can't live with this anymore.
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It was affecting my life in a deleterious way, and
so he did, and I'm done with the grays. So
since then, I have seen Yeshua seven times, and I
had a near death experience in twenty ten, and he
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showed up for me. First, I saw my parents. They
were both deceased. I had lost my mother when I
was six, and then my father died in two thousand
and seven, so I thought, oh my god, I must
be dead because I'd never seen them together since I
was a child. And then he took my hand and
we walked together, just him and I on this like
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green emerald green grass field with a bluebird sky, very
simple and just walked and talked, and he told me
I was at the time, I was writing this book,
my first book on the who are the Ets and Aliens?
Because I was doing these classes in Florida in the
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nineties ET's Aliens or Angels? So I was putting this
all this research together. It got shelved because I had
a baby, and then she got independent and I went
back to it. Anyway, he told me to rewrite my
book with him in it. I did, and it's turned
into seven books. And I'm kind of what they call
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a ven diagram, you know that term. Oh yes, So
I'm like, I'm not either here or there. I got
one foot here, one foot there, you know. And but
you know, life is a complex subject. It's multi layered.
We as human beings, are multi dimensional beings, so it's
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hard to kind of pigeonhole and say you're this or
you're that, and you can't be this if you're going
to be that, which is the stuff that I had
to you know, endure from Jews, okay, because oh, you
can't believe in Jesus. Jews don't believe in Jesus. You're
no longer Jewish or Christians who like say, oh you can't,
you can't have you can't believe in reincarnation or you can't.
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First of all, reincarnation is an ancient core belief of Judaism.
It's a Jewish concept. A lot of Christians think it's Hindu,
but there it is, right there in the Old Testament,
all over the Bible. And then I found out that
you know the you know how the Bible got edited
and what they did and why they did it, and how.
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You know, one thing we can always count on, and
that's human era. And so in the Nisian Council in
three seventy five AD, they had these monks and they
were ordered by the Empress Theodora, who was married to Justinian,
to take all the scriptures out of the Bible that
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related to reincarnation. She was so threatened by that because
she was born a peasant and she kind of worked
her way up to empress as a prostitute, and she
wanted to be venerated as a goddess of Rome like
all the other pantheon of the goddesses. So it was
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a purely narcissistic motivation. So she pulled one of these
monks out that had got kicked off of the council
because of they were arguing like how much of Jesus
was the son of God versus the son of man,
you know, And she pulls him out, puts him on
this board and says, you know, delete all these scriptures.
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So God only knows what he deleted. But again he
was only as good as they were, only as good
as their understanding and knowledge of Hebrew, and they left
a bunch of stuff in. So there's like twenty four
scriptures plus the words, you know, which most Christian Gentile
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English speakers don't understand when they because the English Bible
is not what it's there's a lot of mistranslations. There's
a lot of misnomers, and and and there's they take
all the names out and they just write titles like
God and Lord. So when an English speaker is reading,
they think it's all one one God, but I prove
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it's it's a cast of characters. And you like, like
they asked me, well, where's the word for reincarnation. It's like, well,
reincarnation comes from Latin carne means flesh, but the word
in Hebrew is kafa kella, and it's written all over
the Bible. It's like multiple times. So in this book
that is coming out this spring, I'm pointing it out
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for those who need to know where it is, what
it says, and the context as well all the conversations
about it. And it was just hidden all these years
from from Christians because they were told not to believe
in it. They were told to reject it, and they
were They were told by the Church of Rome, which
was a manipulation because they wanted to control the people,
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and they said, you've got one life to live, you
better get it right with the church otherwise you're going right.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, just change the narrative to control people the way
you want them to to act.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah. So that's what I've uncovered here, and it it's
like like a web like it. It goes into almost everything. Okay, extraterrestrials, nepheline,
reincarnated seeds, of Satan. The Bible calls it the seeds
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of seed, meaning genetic seed okay on the earth. Hybrids
okay on the Earth. And that's why we're this pope
array of all different types of humans, you know. And
what I found interesting was Kayamashed. I'm sure you've heard
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of him, the retired Israeli space chief who spoke to
the Yunidoda Acrone, which is kind of like the equivalent
of the New York Times here in Israel. And that
was back in twenty twenty, when when the whole world
was kind of like under the spell of the pandemic,
and you know, and he came pretty maybe eighty eight
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years old. What is it with these octagenarians where they
feel they need to spill the beans? And he told
them that, you know that the United States and Israel
were in working agreements with the Galactic Federation on Earth
and President Trump knew about it, and that they were
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sharing astronauts and bases on Mars. So this went like
like that, like everyone's under the pandemic and talking about
COVID stuff, and this was like under the radar.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I remember seeing that, and then nothing after that.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yes, that's right. And then so the same journalists that
he gave this interview to. They collaborated with him and
they published a book and it's only available in Hebrew,
and so it's his it's like it's a little astrophysics
and stuff, but it has like about thirteen pages that
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he wrote about all the UFO crashes all around the world, okay,
and in Israel and Russia, and the Magenta Italy crash
that he wrote about that David Grush told our US
Congress in twenty twenty three about and this was in
his book. So a total corroboration there on the story
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and how you know it that it crashed in in Magenta,
Italy and then the Germans came and retrieved everything, and
then of course it ended up here, you know, with
the with the Americans. So all of that fit. And
what I found interesting was he he talked about the
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galactic Federation on Earth. And I'm sure, Margie, you've heard
the term galactic federation many times, right, Galactic Federation of worlds,
the galactic Federation of Light, and they have all these
different phrases to it. But he, you know, Hebrews very specific.
He was very specific about calling it that a galactic
Federation on Earth, which got my attention because it's been
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my uh, you know, I've been postulating in my book
series from the from chapter one, book one, that they're
not like necessarily visitors from outer space. They're coming from
inside the Earth, Okay, And I've been saying that for years,
and so when he said that, that got my attention
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because it's like, yeah, they're here, so of course they're
going to be wanting to talk to the governments, especially
those you know, I mean, it's those all kinds of
key political things going on. But they're helping them with
different technologies because there's different groups of aliens and ets
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that are not all on the same page, so they're
they're in conflict, so they're they're helping Israel and America
with technology to help fight against this draconian group. So
that that really kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, as a researcher an investigator, I have discovered that
throughout my entire life, I get new information constantly, and
I change my mind a lot, uh, and I change
my observations and awareness level just keeps going up and up.
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Do you think has that happened to you? And do
you think that's pretty typical of those of us who
are here to spread messages and and you know, and
share the information.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Absolutely, and that's just called growth, and it's a very
healthy thing, and thank God for that. Thank God. You
can look at something again a few years down the
road and get a different perspective on it, or gather
more information and see, hmm, thought it was this, but
it's really that, you know. I mean, that's that's a
sign of a healthy mind.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Good.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I hope it's not the sign of an insane mind,
because I'm sure you have been called crazy as I
have over there, because you get to a certain point
where you're like going over the edge and you get
so far away from the let's say, the common man
who doesn't have any of these experiences and cannot possibly
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understand what you know, people like you were going through.
Do you have much pushback or do you feel like
you're protected from that sort of situation.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Well, that's a good question, you know. I am I
like to see myself as being grounded in truth, and
I am a truth seeker, so that's always my goal
when it comes to research, and also grounded in my ongoing, living,
daily intimate relationship with the living God. Because it's not
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about me, and I can't really, I don't know how
people get through this life with all the stuff going
on barred it around us without faith in something bigger
than ourselves. So that holds me together. And you know,
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I mean I realize, you know, yeah, I've been called crazy,
I've been rejected, I've been persecuted, I've been maligned. I've
lost my family and friends and all that kind of
stuff because of what I encountered and what I believed
to be true. So I my strength comes from God really,
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you know, and God is is vest because God, it
encompasses a hierarchy. He's got angels and there's a lot
of ets on his side. And that's been my goal,
is to discern between you know, who are the good
ones and who are the ones that are not on
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our side or the ones who want to use us
and abuse us and harvest our energies and steal our
souls and our memories and all of that. So that
led me down these rabbit holes of you know, like
the I mean when I have always known that reincarnation
was real because I had my own experiences from my
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own past lives. And you know, I'm not afraid of death,
and that's like another indication that you've lived before because
you know what's on the other side. And if you
if you talking with the King of the universe and
you have a relationship with God, there's nothing really to fear.
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There are worse things than death. I will tell you that.
And we know that. Just go open up the news
every day and all the horrible things that are going
on on the planet. So you know, when I got
down these rabbit holes, I went out to go, like
what you're saying, you start out with one thing, you
end up with something else. I went out to just
prove that this is in the Bible, just so that
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Christians can understand it, because they can't really understand end
time prophecies fully without this piece. It's just a piece.
It's a piece of knowledge, it's a piece of understanding,
it's a piece of history, it's a piece of truth,
and it fits perfectly. Okay, And there are so many
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end time prophecies that relate to reincarnation. So then when
I'm going down this rabbit hole and trying to prove
all this, you know and put in writing, I come
down this. You know what the CIA did, Okay, and
that blew my mind that they have been studying this,
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they have put all this money into this, and these
two projects, the Gateway Project which started in nineteen seventy
eight and went through the eighties and nineties, and they
had all these top people working on it. And then
they hired remote viewers to do Project Stargate, which started out,
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as you know, because you know all about this, you're
a remote vierea. This Project Stargate started out to look
at different locations and the remote viewers were going into
their space and they were seeing other timelines. Okay, So
then the CIA put that they pieced this together with
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the Gateway Project, which they have all this information on. Okay,
there's tons of stuff. Not all of it has been
declassified holding back on some pieces here. Oh sure, yeah.
And then I started to say, well, this is a science.
This is not like woo wo beliefs or something that,
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oh you know, it's like a religious or a religion
or anything like that. This is a science. And that
the fact that they've been looking at this and how
consciousness can be transferred from one time to another, they thought,
well maybe we can use this not just using remote
viewers as psychic spies and psionics and all that's going
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on today. But maybe we can use them to go
into the past and retrieve information that is relevant for now,
like about weapons and other types of stuff. Yeah, so
that blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, it certainly would. And since you mentioned reincarnation, I
must ask, uh, have you reviewed some of your past
lives and if and I'm sure you have, what would
be one of the most interesting ones you've taken a
look at.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Well, that's a good question. So I shared it in
my second book, Who Was God? On this chapter on
what Happens after you die because of what happened to
me so so as a child, so I didn't have
like a normal childhood. I lost my mother when I
was six, then my father. I was an only child.
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My father remarried. I ended up in a step family,
a Jewish step family, and so my mother, you know,
I went from like Catholic to Jewish. Okay, So there
was a whole lot of Yeah, that's why I write
about all this stuff, the Romans and all that, because
they're like, they're the ones who started a lot of
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these problems. But I was having these recurring nightmares as
a child while I was getting abducted. So I told
you about the abductions with the Grays. The sleep rouse.
I was having these nightmares, and it was the same
dream over and over and over again. I would be
running across a field and end up in like some
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attic and hiding on these like raw mattresses, and then
I would end up on this like big cruise, like
not a luxury cruise ship, but like a freighter, squashed
in between all these people. And then I would like
wake up on the streets of New York City, where
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I was born, by the way, so maybe that was relevant,
and end up again in the mattress in an attic
in Macy's. And then I would wake up and I
was running for my life. And in the dream I
would see symbols the star of David, the six pointed star,
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and a swastika, and they were always overlapping one over
the other, and I was always running running away. So
this went on all the way until I was thirty
and I met my husband and we went to this
place in outside of Orlando, Florida called Casadega, And it's
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a psychic community where just like a lot of psychics
just like live there and hang out there and you
can go there and talk to them. And I'll never
forget this man. His name was Ray, and the two
of us and we weren't married at the time, we
were just dating. And the two of us whooked in
and he was like overwhelmed by the energy. He wouldn't
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even charge us for the reading. That's how he felt.
And I didn't say anything, Okay, he just felt all
this energy and he accurately like blew my mind read
my past life, told me about that dream. Like he
was telling me, you were doing this, you were doing that,
and you were running away from the Nazis. You were
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a child. They were injecting you with all these drugs
and you ended up dying when you ended when you
got to New York at that freight train. Was me
getting out of there and coming over with all of
the people who ended up, uh, you know, getting out
of Europe ended up in New York. So I was
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born in New York. But my father he actually was
a sergeant in World War two, uh and and he
fought he was in the troop of that that storm
the beaches of Normandy. He fought in the Battle of
the Bulge. He survived so so that's my my blood
lam you know, my father. And and so when he
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told me this, this, the dreams stopped. I never had
that dream again because it and I'm somebody, I'm in
that ten percent of Americans that can't be hypnotized like
by traditional methods. So I couldn't have accessed this through hypnosis.
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This was had to be done with, you know, someone else.
And he picked up on it so accurately that the
fact that it came to the surface and was conscious
and someone acknowledged this over me and to me, it
just popped it. That was it. It was over. And
then he saw my husband and he saw that he
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was part of the resistance and that he was one
of the ones that helped all of these kids out.
He opened up the gates. That's where we were running.
We were running away from the Nazis, and he went
against the orders and they shot him in the head
and he had this this indentation in his on the
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top of his forehead.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Even in this life that happens, you bring the energy
of that sometimes with you. I see that a lot
when I do readings of people, I'll see spears in
their neck or you know, if there's a major, major
injury that will stay in your energy field when you
incarnate again. That's amazing. That is an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Ella.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I really appreciate that we are going to take a
short break now and we'll be back right after these messages.
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Speaker 2 (32:16):
Welcome back, Margie K. This is an ex News and
we are speaking with Ella Lebaine tonight some fascinating stuff.
I had never heard the story of your reincarnation event
one of them anyway, and and that is just fascinating.
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I truly believe in reincarnation. I've gone back and taken
a look at a number of my lives, and I
do for other people as well, and I think that
that really is what makes us a whole person. Because
you can't have every experience in one lifetime. It just
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makes sense that you must have multiple lifetimes. How far
back do you think this goes? Do we go back,
you know, to the beginning of time? How how does
that work?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah? Great question. Well for me, it goes all the
way back to Atlantis because that's as far as I
was able to go in my past lifetimes. But yeah,
I mean, I think that this is a system that is,
you know, part of Earth lives. People who live on
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this planet for whatever reason we come here for, and
there's multiple reasons. So, like I was, one of the
things in the book is is that you know, people
think immediately they just there's like a knee jerk reaction
that if you get reincarnated, it means you're being punished
for something, or you have to pay off some karma
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or or it's all about that, and that's a piece
of it, but that's not the whole that there's a
million and one reasons why people reincarnate. And I prove
this in the Book through the Bible that even the
avatars the Masters reincarnate not because they did something wrong,
but because they have to come back to fix things
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or to show up at a certain on a timeline
and keep keep certain things going okay, like and people think, like,
what happened, you know, two thousand years ago for Christ, like,
oh that it that it had to happen again, and
not necessarily because we're all in one like age right now,
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like a Cali like like the age of Pisces, which
we're coming to the end of. And then there's the Caliyuga,
the bigger cycle. So like for every one of these cycles,
these beings have come into our timeline multiple times to
teach to UH, to share, to to be high priests,
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to be uh bridges between this world and the other worlds.
So there's so many reasons. And an unrequited love is
another big one. You know, if you you look at
how many men die as young, you know, teenagers or
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young men on battlefields that they never get home to
their wives, they never get to see their children born,
they never get to fulfill their lives. The you know,
God is a god of mercy, like you know, he
sends people back because he wants he wants his souls
that he created to be fulfilled. So if if if
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you die with an unfulfilled something, you know, whatever it is,
you know that that's that's that's another reason for coming back.
It's not all punishment or correction or karma, you know.
So it's so intricate, there's so much to it, and
it's also been abused. I have to say that that
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that there's an alien force on this planet that has
been taking advantage of that. Okay, so, and this is
why this planet Earth has been called a prison planet.
I mean even Yashua talked about that in the Gnostic
Gospels that he came to set the captives free. Who
are the captives? That would be all the people living
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on Earth, to point a way out of this bondage
that that people get stuck in the cycles of reincarnation
where they can't you know, like it's like a broken record,
you can't get out of it. And the good news
is is that there will be an end to the
cycles of reincarnation on Earth. Well one, there's two things,
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two prophecies in the Bible that talk about that that
come from Christ himself, where he ends it. Okay, he
ends it, and he also ends death. So if there's
no death, there can't be reincarnation. So that's in the future.
But you know why we need this piece. It's a piece,
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it's not the bole and end all is because it
helps you to navigate your present life, you know, like
just knowing, like what happened to me, for instance, like
I had all these allergies. I would pass out at
the side of a needle for twenty five years. I
had needle phobia. And that was not just related to
(37:29):
the alien abductions. It was related to what they did
to me in a past life where they were experimenting
you know, the mengola stuff, the experien the kids injecting
them with all these drugs. So I go to the
doctors here and I say, I'm not from this planet.
Your drugs don't work on me here. And even though
that's a joke, it's true because I can't handle anything.
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I can't handle vaccinations and pharmaceuticals, and you know, I'm
like one of those o natural path people.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
You know me too, I totally relate.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, so that's the reason. And once that came up,
I overcame the fainting from needles because I consciously went
and volunteered to this study where they had to take
my blood and I had these two East Indian doctors
talking to me, keeping me awake, talking to me about
the stars, and I overcame it. So it shows that
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you can overcome this stuff even though you're born with
these phobias that are connected to past life traumas. So
knowing that helped me to get healed of it. So
that's a positive thing.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I've noticed something since twenty twenty one when I do
a lot of readings for people. Okay, since twenty twenty one,
nearly every single person that has come to me is
advanced in their knowledge of spirituality and uh, you know
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the chakra systems, energy vibration, and uh, they're simply coming
for a little boost, some some advice, you know, maybe
a new direction to go. Are you finding also that
there are a lot of people waking up right now
and that that has been recent?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yes, absolutely, and thank God for that, you know, I
mean thank god, I'm not the only one that knows
this or and so you you know, and then we're
talking to each other and we're creating even more you know,
awareness and permission for people to understand and even research
it for themselves. And yeah, we're in this. We're in disclosure.
(39:44):
I mean, we are in it. It's happening. And you know,
whatever we thought or pre you know, precognitive or whatever
thought that always going to come from, like the President
standing on the on the lawn of the White House
and giving a speech. This is this is a multi
layered process and it's going to take some time because
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we need to be able to have time to integrate
all these different levels of knowings, of understandings, of new knowledge,
of revelations. I mean the word in like the Book
of Revelation, which in Greek is apocalypse. So people always
think apocalypse means disaster. That doesn't mean that that's not
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included in it. But the word itself means revelation, which
means disclosure. And we are living through it. So we're
waking up from you know, the spells of of you know,
the past and being kept in the dark, the true
dark ages, you know, because they kept people in the
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dark about stuff, and they persecuted and hung them and
burned them alive and did all these horrible things because
they they knew the truth. Okay, So what I, as
a researcher examine is what are they so threatened by? What?
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Why are communication with other beings? Uh, communication with God
and the Holy Spirit and Mary and Yeshua and and
e tes What are they so threatened by? Why did
we as a planet, as a group, as a historical
timeline have to go through that? And that's where we
(41:31):
have to come out the other end in our disclosure
process to not only heal from that which we're healing
now because people are waking up and coming, you know,
and understanding these things, but also get to be able
to integrate and get ready for this next layer of it. Okay,
because one thing I can say with certainty based on
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the research and based on just the reality that we're
living in, that this is an ancient it stems, it's
rooted in this ancient cosmic battle over us and over
the real estate over earth. So if we if we
come and we moved through disclosure with that understanding, then
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we won't fall into the traps of getting deceived by
so many of these beings that have been playing with
us for a very long time. So like even with religion,
Like there's so many religions that are influenced by the aliens,
And why is that? What are they? What are they getting?
(42:41):
What do they want from us? And they want energy?
You know. The Monroe Institute which got involved in the
Gateway Pride that the CIA worked with, Like, they came
out with a word called luche okay, because they saw
that this and that's that basically represents soul, energies, memories,
stuff that comes out of humans. And they saw that
(43:03):
this was a thing. And the reptilians, the group of
reptilians that live inside this planet, they harvest human energy.
They are able to take memories from a human being,
take them out of your mind and implant them into
a different being, whether it's a hybrid that they're creating
(43:27):
or another human. Okay, And they have there's stories about
all this. There was a movie The Truth Is Stranger
than Fiction. There was the movie back in the eighties
called Total recol You remember.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
That with Oh yeah, I mean those and.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Those concepts are put into these scripts, put into these
movies for a reason, and they're purposely done because back
in the nineteen fifties, the Majestic twelve Days, they knew
that they had to control the information, but they also
knew that it was the responsible thing to do was
to propel, to prepare are the public for this. So
(44:01):
they allowed these concepts. They gave some of these concepts
to film and TV writers and put them into the scripts,
so that this is what I call soft disclosure, because
then people can watch it and have an understanding of it,
get the concept at least, and not necessarily buy into
(44:26):
it and say, oh, this is really happening. Those of
us who are awake can connect the dots and say, oh,
that's real.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Exactly. Just for example, Star Trek exactly from the sixties,
the original one. All of those things are here now
and people are looking at that and going, hey, if
that's true, what else could there be And what other
capabilities do we have in technologies do we have? Like
(44:55):
the drone incursion we just had all over the United States?
Yeah those were ours, okay, uh, but our planes could
not shoot them down. It was a whole other faction.
But anyway, I digress. That is yeah, right, Please please
tell me what this is about.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Oh well, that's my little motley crew of eight's aliens
and angels that I kind of sketched. I'm not an artist.
Uh So I gave this to my illustrator and and
he he was able to translate what I saw and
(45:39):
put it in. Uh And all those beings are analyzed
in great detail in my first book, Who's Who in
the Cosmic Zoo Book one, and I just put the
fourth edition out last year, so it's all updated. So
the back cover has this all colored and pretty. But
(46:02):
you can see that, oh yeah, that's that's also part
of that cover there, it is that. That's it all is.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I recognize some of those beans.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I'm sure you do.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
I'll have to have a chat about that. So you have.
Let's see, I'm going to just I'm going to go
through these uphosened the Bible.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yes, the second book has all those scriptures that relates
to spaceships like technology. You know, Hebrew is a language
of physics, so it's it's very technical. The books of
Ezekiel are very.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Technical, okay. And then Cosmic Slingshot.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
This is coming out this spring. It will be released soon.
And this is part of what I was telling you about.
And so I'm proving mainly to Christians but anyone else
that this has been a Jewish concept, not a Hindu concept.
That doesn't mean the Hindus don't have their own version
of it. In fact, all the religions and all the
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cultures on the earth have always forever believed in reincarnation.
Only the Christians have a problem with it. And that's
because of an implant that was put in on the
timeline three seventy five AD from the Nician Council, and
they were told not to believe. We're told that they
were anathematic rome if they should believe in such heresies.
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So it's gone so far in indoctrination, brainwashing, actual spells,
like magical spells that keep people under you blinded so
they can't see the truth, and that they can't even
see it they're in their own bibles. So I just
got tired of arguing with them, and I thought, you know,
and the Lord said to me, just put it all
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in one book, because every one of my books as
a chapter about it. So like the first book, I
have a chapter on what the Reptilians do after when
you die, if you're if you belong to them. They
process you, they strip you of all their stuff, and
then they let you go through the slingshot. So the
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word cosmic slingshot is the English translation of the Hebrew
word for reincarnation, which is kafa kella, which literally means
a cosmic slingshot. And it comes from the story of
King David. And if you remember the famous story where
he killed the giant with a slingshot.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Uh huh, okay, fascinating stuff you've So you have seven books,
and are they all published now?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Well, the Cosmic Slingshot will be out probably in May.
Six books are available at the moment, well, the sixth,
the first six of the Cosmic Zoo. Cosmic Slingshot is
sort of a parabook of who's who in the Cosmic Zoo.
It's not like Book seven. Book seven is about Disclosure,
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which I'm hopefully getting out by the end of the year.
But I needed to do this first because and all
my experiences with all these people that sort of, you know,
negatively inspired me to put this book together. I feel
like it's needed and people need sort of a handbook,
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a reference book to help them in their own debates.
And I encourage everybody to use my stuff and use
it in their own debates, you know, because it's research.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
So and a lot of research, I may say, you
really go into detail in your books and proof what
you're saying. I think all of this information that you
have produced and continue to do is very important. I
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think everybody really needs to take a look at it
because it's about what is truly happening. And people are
waking up.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
There people that I've seen in my own life who
have been very left brain, let's say, and not open
to these things are suddenly starting to see things. And
of course when Pentagon said, yeah, there are things out there,
we don't know what they are, then that made it okay. Suddenly,
(50:37):
oh hey you were right all along. Wow, amazing, And
then maybe I can have my own experience, is what
they say. Now they're ready for it. Do you think,
generally speaking, that the world is ready for all of
this information?
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yes? And no. I think there's a growing group that
is getting ready and very ready. And then there's another
group of blood arts or ludites, whatever you want to
call them, that are stuck in cognitive dissonance and denial.
And I'm also blaming the CIA for part of that
because they have they kind of specialized in gaslighting the
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American people for so long that they got people to
believe that the lie is the truth and the truth
is the lie, and that's a curse, you know. So
so you have people today that that that can't even
get around the celebration of rescuing these astronauts from space
(51:36):
because they think the whole thing was was fake or
it was you know, staged or whatever. You know, I'm
very big because I'm a retired legal assistant and paralegal,
and I'm very big on witnesses. And you know, witnesses
are legal evidence in a court of law. A witness
(51:57):
testimony carries a lot of Wait. So when you have
like eleven space agencies, okay, and thousands of astronauts that
have gone up and down into space and not a
single one of them has come back and said, hey,
by the way, the Earth is flat, and yet you
have all these people, Yeah, they have all these people
(52:21):
all over the internet saying this this was a see
a psychological operation, And you thought, why would they do
such a thing, Why would they regress so far into
medieval stuff? Because the Catholic Church used to say that,
and they used to kill people if they went against them. Okay,
then they came later and denounced it and renounced it
(52:43):
and repented of it, and it's no longer their doctrine.
Yet these are reincarnated ex Catholics from medieval times that
seem to believe this. So you think, why would the
CIA allow this and put this out there? Because this
was a siah. Because it's a perfect okay to cover
up the secret space program. Because if they believe nothing's
(53:05):
coming or go and you can't get beyond the dome,
they can't believe in extraterrestrials or secret space, and they
can't if they think the Earth is a is a pancake,
then they can't get their head around that there's civilizations
and cities and underground bases inside the Earth. Perfect cover.
So you've got cognitive dissonance and denial like on steroids
(53:30):
with this flat earth stuff and moon denials and people
can't go come and go in space. Yet meanwhile, they're
on Mars, they've been there since the eighties. They're in
the they're on the Moon. Okay, they're in I mean,
you know, and all this is happening right under our noses.
So if we're really ready for disclosure, then these people
have to unravel and undo and get deprogrammed, okay, from
(53:58):
all these false beliefs, because they're are the ones holding people.
This is the reason why we don't have full disclosure
because they can't handle it. They can't handle the truth.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Yeah, the CIA seems to have their hands and everything,
especially social media, and I've noticed, you know, having a
broadcasting network. They will come in and make these comments
that it's always against whatever you believe, right so, and
they'll pretend like they're normal human being, but you can
(54:29):
just read right there they were a plant and they're everywhere.
It's like, welly doubt, here's where all of our black
ops money goes to, these idiots sitting behind a desk
trying to undermine everybody who has an idea of the truth.
(54:51):
Uh yeah, it's it's gotten a little bit insane. How
can people get your books?
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Ella?
Speaker 3 (54:56):
Okay, Oh well, thank you very much. I'm on Amazon
pretty much worldwide, paperback and Kindle, and then my website
Who's whointhecosmiczoo dot com. I only ship in the United States,
but I also have PDF versions and I can email
them anywhere.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Awesome. Thank you so much for being on the program tonight.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
I can talk to you for hours likewise, thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
All right, We'll be in touch. Thank you. All right.
That is another edition of Annex News and I will
see you here again next week. And yes we do
have a new format coming, but that will be probably
about mid April. I'll see you next week
Speaker 1 (56:00):
To teach, teach,
It's time for the Unexed News news extraterrestrials, time anomalies,
dimension dimensions, remote viewing, UFOs, UAPs and USO's, ghostly encounters, abductions,
Bigfoot and more more, your end of the week news
(00:42):
source for everything everything unexplained. Here is your host for
the unex News podcast, Margie k.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good evening and welcome to Unexed News. I'm your host,
Margie Ka, and we have a fantastic show for you
this evening. I do want to mention please take a
look at a special report that I am posting on
YouTube shortly after this broadcast. And what you see here
(01:24):
is a witnesses drawing of the very strange UFO that
he just recently saw in Kansas City, North and it's
being investigated by Moufon. It's an extremely unusual case with
a close encounter, so check that out. Also, one of
the most recent books that onex Media has published is
(01:47):
Incident in Varhinna Space Creatures in the South of Minus.
This is a fantastic read. It is just recently published
by Annex Media and I said just that you check
that out. It is at Amazon. Also, my most recent
book is I co authored with violet wisdom of course,
(02:09):
how to research a haunted house, and it is a
one of a kind because you will not find anything
else out there like it, So do check that out
as well. My guest this evening is Ella Labine. She
is originally from New York City and was educated in Israel.
She received a social sciences degree from the Biological Research
(02:31):
Center of the NIGEV in nineteen seventy nine, a department
of Ben Gurion University, where she was schooled in Biblical
Hebrew and science, and then went on to receive an
astronomy degree from the Hayden Planetarium in New York City
in nineteen eighty eight, where she began her serious study
of cosmology. She spent two years working as a counselor
(02:54):
and social worker assisting missionaries in apartheid South Africa during
the early nineteen eighties. Her close encounters caused her to
dig deeper into what has become a forty five year
journey to get the truth about UFOs, aliens, ets, gods
and angels and how they all fit into our end
(03:14):
time scenario. Welcome to the program, Ella.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Hi Margie, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Good well, I'm so glad you could join me this evening,
and you look wonderful and I love your background. That's
just perfect. You are a very busy lady. Let's go.
Let's go back to the time very first time you
had a close encounter. Can you explain what that was like?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Well, it was in the Negev Desert in July of
nineteen seventy nine, about three o'clock in the afternoon, broad daylight,
heat of the summer. I wasn't under any influence. I
was just reading and hanging out in the sun and
(04:03):
this being came out of the sunlight, walked kind of
walked towards me and said, I am the Messiah. Follow me,
and I was gobsmacked and disappeared. And I was eighteen
years old, so you know that got me digging down
(04:28):
rabbit holes. Who was he? After? I just graduated and
you know, I was raised Jewish and Jews are not
supposed to believe in Jesus. But he looked like Jesus.
Didn't say it was Jesus. He just said he was
the Messiah. So I had to find out who he was.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Okay, Well, so that was your first encounter. What has
happened since then? What encounters have you had.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, I, you know, that was like the first awake
encounter conscious. But you know, when I was two years old,
I was getting abducted from my crib and my parents
used to talk about it. So that's how it stayed
in my memory because they used to find me upside
down with nosebleeds, and you know, the sheets were all bloody,
(05:19):
so they used to like talk about it and complain, Oh,
they got to change the sheets again. And I would
wake up with these little bumps and these little you know,
like almost like little beb like implants. And so one
thing led to another. To make a long story short,
and you know, when I finally realized that this was
(05:41):
this ancient being, okay, who I'm connecting dots to in
my present book, The Cosmic Slingshot that's coming out this spring,
that was recorded in the Bible as Melchizedek, who in
Hebrew means the king of righteousness. But this was an
(06:04):
enigmatic figure who had no genealogy. They didn't know where
he came from, and there was no record of his death.
He just kind of came and went and showed up
at different times along the timeline. And so, long story short,
I put piece this together and found out that Yeshua,
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who most English speakers know as Jesus, is the reincarnation
of this ancient king. And so how that relates to
my abductions was that he freed me from them. That's
pretty much what happened, because I had no control over
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what was happening, especially as a two year old. It
lasted all the way up until my thirties and early forties,
and I just I had had enough of it. I
was suffering from needle phobia and insomnia and sleep paralysis,
(07:12):
you know, all the classic things that happened to abductees,
missing pregnancies, and I just couldn't find my way out
of it. So I remembered my experience in the desert,
reached out and you know, if you're real, if you're there,
then just save me, because I can't live with this anymore.
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It was affecting my life in a deleterious way, and
so he did, and I'm done with the grays. So
since then, I have seen Yeshua seven times, and I
had a near death experience in twenty ten, and he
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showed up for me. First, I saw my parents. They
were both deceased. I had lost my mother when I
was six, and then my father died in two thousand
and seven, so I thought, oh my god, I must
be dead because I'd never seen them together since I
was a child. And then he took my hand and
we walked together, just him and I on this like
(08:15):
green emerald green grass field with a bluebird sky, very
simple and just walked and talked, and he told me
I was at the time, I was writing this book,
my first book on the who are the Ets and Aliens?
Because I was doing these classes in Florida in the
(08:35):
nineties ET's Aliens or Angels? So I was putting this
all this research together. It got shelved because I had
a baby, and then she got independent and I went
back to it. Anyway, he told me to rewrite my
book with him in it. I did, and it's turned
into seven books. And I'm kind of what they call
(08:59):
a ven diagram, you know that term. Oh yes, So
I'm like, I'm not either here or there. I got
one foot here, one foot there, you know. And but
you know, life is a complex subject. It's multi layered.
We as human beings, are multi dimensional beings, so it's
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hard to kind of pigeonhole and say you're this or
you're that, and you can't be this if you're going
to be that, which is the stuff that I had
to you know, endure from Jews, okay, because oh, you
can't believe in Jesus. Jews don't believe in Jesus. You're
no longer Jewish or Christians who like say, oh you can't,
you can't have you can't believe in reincarnation or you can't.
(09:44):
First of all, reincarnation is an ancient core belief of Judaism.
It's a Jewish concept. A lot of Christians think it's Hindu,
but there it is, right there in the Old Testament,
all over the Bible. And then I found out that
you know the you know how the Bible got edited
and what they did and why they did it, and how.
(10:06):
You know, one thing we can always count on, and
that's human era. And so in the Nisian Council in
three seventy five AD, they had these monks and they
were ordered by the Empress Theodora, who was married to Justinian,
to take all the scriptures out of the Bible that
(10:27):
related to reincarnation. She was so threatened by that because
she was born a peasant and she kind of worked
her way up to empress as a prostitute, and she
wanted to be venerated as a goddess of Rome like
all the other pantheon of the goddesses. So it was
(10:49):
a purely narcissistic motivation. So she pulled one of these
monks out that had got kicked off of the council
because of they were arguing like how much of Jesus
was the son of God versus the son of man,
you know, And she pulls him out, puts him on
this board and says, you know, delete all these scriptures.
(11:09):
So God only knows what he deleted. But again he
was only as good as they were, only as good
as their understanding and knowledge of Hebrew, and they left
a bunch of stuff in. So there's like twenty four
scriptures plus the words, you know, which most Christian Gentile
(11:29):
English speakers don't understand when they because the English Bible
is not what it's there's a lot of mistranslations. There's
a lot of misnomers, and and and there's they take
all the names out and they just write titles like
God and Lord. So when an English speaker is reading,
they think it's all one one God, but I prove
(11:52):
it's it's a cast of characters. And you like, like
they asked me, well, where's the word for reincarnation. It's like, well,
reincarnation comes from Latin carne means flesh, but the word
in Hebrew is kafa kella, and it's written all over
the Bible. It's like multiple times. So in this book
that is coming out this spring, I'm pointing it out
(12:15):
for those who need to know where it is, what
it says, and the context as well all the conversations
about it. And it was just hidden all these years
from from Christians because they were told not to believe
in it. They were told to reject it, and they
were They were told by the Church of Rome, which
was a manipulation because they wanted to control the people,
(12:38):
and they said, you've got one life to live, you
better get it right with the church otherwise you're going right.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, just change the narrative to control people the way
you want them to to act.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah. So that's what I've uncovered here, and it it's
like like a web like it. It goes into almost everything. Okay, extraterrestrials, nepheline,
reincarnated seeds, of Satan. The Bible calls it the seeds
(13:11):
of seed, meaning genetic seed okay on the earth. Hybrids
okay on the Earth. And that's why we're this pope
array of all different types of humans, you know. And
what I found interesting was Kayamashed. I'm sure you've heard
(13:34):
of him, the retired Israeli space chief who spoke to
the Yunidoda Acrone, which is kind of like the equivalent
of the New York Times here in Israel. And that
was back in twenty twenty, when when the whole world
was kind of like under the spell of the pandemic,
and you know, and he came pretty maybe eighty eight
(13:55):
years old. What is it with these octagenarians where they
feel they need to spill the beans? And he told
them that, you know that the United States and Israel
were in working agreements with the Galactic Federation on Earth
and President Trump knew about it, and that they were
(14:17):
sharing astronauts and bases on Mars. So this went like
like that, like everyone's under the pandemic and talking about
COVID stuff, and this was like under the radar.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I remember seeing that, and then nothing after that.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yes, that's right. And then so the same journalists that
he gave this interview to. They collaborated with him and
they published a book and it's only available in Hebrew,
and so it's his it's like it's a little astrophysics
and stuff, but it has like about thirteen pages that
(14:56):
he wrote about all the UFO crashes all around the world, okay,
and in Israel and Russia, and the Magenta Italy crash
that he wrote about that David Grush told our US
Congress in twenty twenty three about and this was in
his book. So a total corroboration there on the story
(15:18):
and how you know it that it crashed in in Magenta,
Italy and then the Germans came and retrieved everything, and
then of course it ended up here, you know, with
the with the Americans. So all of that fit. And
what I found interesting was he he talked about the
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galactic Federation on Earth. And I'm sure, Margie, you've heard
the term galactic federation many times, right, Galactic Federation of worlds,
the galactic Federation of Light, and they have all these
different phrases to it. But he, you know, Hebrews very specific.
He was very specific about calling it that a galactic
Federation on Earth, which got my attention because it's been
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my uh, you know, I've been postulating in my book
series from the from chapter one, book one, that they're
not like necessarily visitors from outer space. They're coming from
inside the Earth, Okay, And I've been saying that for years,
and so when he said that, that got my attention
(16:23):
because it's like, yeah, they're here, so of course they're
going to be wanting to talk to the governments, especially
those you know, I mean, it's those all kinds of
key political things going on. But they're helping them with
different technologies because there's different groups of aliens and ets
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that are not all on the same page, so they're
they're in conflict, so they're they're helping Israel and America
with technology to help fight against this draconian group. So
that that really kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, as a researcher an investigator, I have discovered that
throughout my entire life, I get new information constantly, and
I change my mind a lot, uh, and I change
my observations and awareness level just keeps going up and up.
(17:37):
Do you think has that happened to you? And do
you think that's pretty typical of those of us who
are here to spread messages and and you know, and
share the information.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Absolutely, and that's just called growth, and it's a very
healthy thing, and thank God for that. Thank God. You
can look at something again a few years down the
road and get a different perspective on it, or gather
more information and see, hmm, thought it was this, but
it's really that, you know. I mean, that's that's a
sign of a healthy mind.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Good.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I hope it's not the sign of an insane mind,
because I'm sure you have been called crazy as I
have over there, because you get to a certain point
where you're like going over the edge and you get
so far away from the let's say, the common man
who doesn't have any of these experiences and cannot possibly
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understand what you know, people like you were going through.
Do you have much pushback or do you feel like
you're protected from that sort of situation.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Well, that's a good question, you know. I am I
like to see myself as being grounded in truth, and
I am a truth seeker, so that's always my goal
when it comes to research, and also grounded in my ongoing, living,
daily intimate relationship with the living God. Because it's not
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about me, and I can't really, I don't know how
people get through this life with all the stuff going
on barred it around us without faith in something bigger
than ourselves. So that holds me together. And you know,
(19:38):
I mean I realize, you know, yeah, I've been called crazy,
I've been rejected, I've been persecuted, I've been maligned. I've
lost my family and friends and all that kind of
stuff because of what I encountered and what I believed
to be true. So I my strength comes from God really,
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you know, and God is is vest because God, it
encompasses a hierarchy. He's got angels and there's a lot
of ets on his side. And that's been my goal,
is to discern between you know, who are the good
ones and who are the ones that are not on
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our side or the ones who want to use us
and abuse us and harvest our energies and steal our
souls and our memories and all of that. So that
led me down these rabbit holes of you know, like
the I mean when I have always known that reincarnation
was real because I had my own experiences from my
(20:45):
own past lives. And you know, I'm not afraid of death,
and that's like another indication that you've lived before because
you know what's on the other side. And if you
if you talking with the King of the universe and
you have a relationship with God, there's nothing really to fear.
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There are worse things than death. I will tell you that.
And we know that. Just go open up the news
every day and all the horrible things that are going
on on the planet. So you know, when I got
down these rabbit holes, I went out to go, like
what you're saying, you start out with one thing, you
end up with something else. I went out to just
prove that this is in the Bible, just so that
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Christians can understand it, because they can't really understand end
time prophecies fully without this piece. It's just a piece.
It's a piece of knowledge, it's a piece of understanding,
it's a piece of history, it's a piece of truth,
and it fits perfectly. Okay, And there are so many
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end time prophecies that relate to reincarnation. So then when
I'm going down this rabbit hole and trying to prove
all this, you know and put in writing, I come
down this. You know what the CIA did, Okay, and
that blew my mind that they have been studying this,
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they have put all this money into this, and these
two projects, the Gateway Project which started in nineteen seventy
eight and went through the eighties and nineties, and they
had all these top people working on it. And then
they hired remote viewers to do Project Stargate, which started out,
(22:28):
as you know, because you know all about this, you're
a remote vierea. This Project Stargate started out to look
at different locations and the remote viewers were going into
their space and they were seeing other timelines. Okay, So
then the CIA put that they pieced this together with
(22:51):
the Gateway Project, which they have all this information on. Okay,
there's tons of stuff. Not all of it has been
declassified holding back on some pieces here. Oh sure, yeah.
And then I started to say, well, this is a science.
This is not like woo wo beliefs or something that,
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oh you know, it's like a religious or a religion
or anything like that. This is a science. And that
the fact that they've been looking at this and how
consciousness can be transferred from one time to another, they thought,
well maybe we can use this not just using remote
viewers as psychic spies and psionics and all that's going
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on today. But maybe we can use them to go
into the past and retrieve information that is relevant for now,
like about weapons and other types of stuff. Yeah, so
that blew my mind.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, it certainly would. And since you mentioned reincarnation, I
must ask, uh, have you reviewed some of your past
lives and if and I'm sure you have, what would
be one of the most interesting ones you've taken a
look at.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Well, that's a good question. So I shared it in
my second book, Who Was God? On this chapter on
what Happens after you die because of what happened to
me so so as a child, so I didn't have
like a normal childhood. I lost my mother when I
was six, then my father. I was an only child.
(24:28):
My father remarried. I ended up in a step family,
a Jewish step family, and so my mother, you know,
I went from like Catholic to Jewish. Okay, So there
was a whole lot of Yeah, that's why I write
about all this stuff, the Romans and all that, because
they're like, they're the ones who started a lot of
(24:49):
these problems. But I was having these recurring nightmares as
a child while I was getting abducted. So I told
you about the abductions with the Grays. The sleep rouse.
I was having these nightmares, and it was the same
dream over and over and over again. I would be
running across a field and end up in like some
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attic and hiding on these like raw mattresses, and then
I would end up on this like big cruise, like
not a luxury cruise ship, but like a freighter, squashed
in between all these people. And then I would like
wake up on the streets of New York City, where
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I was born, by the way, so maybe that was relevant,
and end up again in the mattress in an attic
in Macy's. And then I would wake up and I
was running for my life. And in the dream I
would see symbols the star of David, the six pointed star,
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and a swastika, and they were always overlapping one over
the other, and I was always running running away. So
this went on all the way until I was thirty
and I met my husband and we went to this
place in outside of Orlando, Florida called Casadega, And it's
(26:15):
a psychic community where just like a lot of psychics
just like live there and hang out there and you
can go there and talk to them. And I'll never
forget this man. His name was Ray, and the two
of us and we weren't married at the time, we
were just dating. And the two of us whooked in
and he was like overwhelmed by the energy. He wouldn't
(26:37):
even charge us for the reading. That's how he felt.
And I didn't say anything, Okay, he just felt all
this energy and he accurately like blew my mind read
my past life, told me about that dream. Like he
was telling me, you were doing this, you were doing that,
and you were running away from the Nazis. You were
(26:59):
a child. They were injecting you with all these drugs
and you ended up dying when you ended when you
got to New York at that freight train. Was me
getting out of there and coming over with all of
the people who ended up, uh, you know, getting out
of Europe ended up in New York. So I was
(27:19):
born in New York. But my father he actually was
a sergeant in World War two, uh and and he
fought he was in the troop of that that storm
the beaches of Normandy. He fought in the Battle of
the Bulge. He survived so so that's my my blood
lam you know, my father. And and so when he
(27:41):
told me this, this, the dreams stopped. I never had
that dream again because it and I'm somebody, I'm in
that ten percent of Americans that can't be hypnotized like
by traditional methods. So I couldn't have accessed this through hypnosis.
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This was had to be done with, you know, someone else.
And he picked up on it so accurately that the
fact that it came to the surface and was conscious
and someone acknowledged this over me and to me, it
just popped it. That was it. It was over. And
then he saw my husband and he saw that he
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was part of the resistance and that he was one
of the ones that helped all of these kids out.
He opened up the gates. That's where we were running.
We were running away from the Nazis, and he went
against the orders and they shot him in the head
and he had this this indentation in his on the
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top of his forehead.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Even in this life that happens, you bring the energy
of that sometimes with you. I see that a lot
when I do readings of people, I'll see spears in
their neck or you know, if there's a major, major
injury that will stay in your energy field when you
incarnate again. That's amazing. That is an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
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Speaker 2 (29:09):
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Speaker 2 (32:16):
Welcome back, Margie K. This is an ex News and
we are speaking with Ella Lebaine tonight some fascinating stuff.
I had never heard the story of your reincarnation event
one of them anyway, and and that is just fascinating.
(32:37):
I truly believe in reincarnation. I've gone back and taken
a look at a number of my lives, and I
do for other people as well, and I think that
that really is what makes us a whole person. Because
you can't have every experience in one lifetime. It just
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makes sense that you must have multiple lifetimes. How far
back do you think this goes? Do we go back,
you know, to the beginning of time? How how does
that work?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah? Great question. Well for me, it goes all the
way back to Atlantis because that's as far as I
was able to go in my past lifetimes. But yeah,
I mean, I think that this is a system that is,
you know, part of Earth lives. People who live on
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this planet for whatever reason we come here for, and
there's multiple reasons. So, like I was, one of the
things in the book is is that you know, people
think immediately they just there's like a knee jerk reaction
that if you get reincarnated, it means you're being punished
for something, or you have to pay off some karma
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or or it's all about that, and that's a piece
of it, but that's not the whole that there's a
million and one reasons why people reincarnate. And I prove
this in the Book through the Bible that even the
avatars the Masters reincarnate not because they did something wrong,
but because they have to come back to fix things
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or to show up at a certain on a timeline
and keep keep certain things going okay, like and people think, like,
what happened, you know, two thousand years ago for Christ, like,
oh that it that it had to happen again, and
not necessarily because we're all in one like age right now,
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like a Cali like like the age of Pisces, which
we're coming to the end of. And then there's the Caliyuga,
the bigger cycle. So like for every one of these cycles,
these beings have come into our timeline multiple times to
teach to UH, to share, to to be high priests,
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to be uh bridges between this world and the other worlds.
So there's so many reasons. And an unrequited love is
another big one. You know, if you you look at
how many men die as young, you know, teenagers or
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young men on battlefields that they never get home to
their wives, they never get to see their children born,
they never get to fulfill their lives. The you know,
God is a god of mercy, like you know, he
sends people back because he wants he wants his souls
that he created to be fulfilled. So if if if
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you die with an unfulfilled something, you know, whatever it is,
you know that that's that's that's another reason for coming back.
It's not all punishment or correction or karma, you know.
So it's so intricate, there's so much to it, and
it's also been abused. I have to say that that
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that there's an alien force on this planet that has
been taking advantage of that. Okay, so, and this is
why this planet Earth has been called a prison planet.
I mean even Yashua talked about that in the Gnostic
Gospels that he came to set the captives free. Who
are the captives? That would be all the people living
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on Earth, to point a way out of this bondage
that that people get stuck in the cycles of reincarnation
where they can't you know, like it's like a broken record,
you can't get out of it. And the good news
is is that there will be an end to the
cycles of reincarnation on Earth. Well one, there's two things,
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two prophecies in the Bible that talk about that that
come from Christ himself, where he ends it. Okay, he
ends it, and he also ends death. So if there's
no death, there can't be reincarnation. So that's in the future.
But you know why we need this piece. It's a piece,
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it's not the bole and end all is because it
helps you to navigate your present life, you know, like
just knowing, like what happened to me, for instance, like
I had all these allergies. I would pass out at
the side of a needle for twenty five years. I
had needle phobia. And that was not just related to
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the alien abductions. It was related to what they did
to me in a past life where they were experimenting
you know, the mengola stuff, the experien the kids injecting
them with all these drugs. So I go to the
doctors here and I say, I'm not from this planet.
Your drugs don't work on me here. And even though
that's a joke, it's true because I can't handle anything.
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I can't handle vaccinations and pharmaceuticals, and you know, I'm
like one of those o natural path people.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
You know me too, I totally relate.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, so that's the reason. And once that came up,
I overcame the fainting from needles because I consciously went
and volunteered to this study where they had to take
my blood and I had these two East Indian doctors
talking to me, keeping me awake, talking to me about
the stars, and I overcame it. So it shows that
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you can overcome this stuff even though you're born with
these phobias that are connected to past life traumas. So
knowing that helped me to get healed of it. So
that's a positive thing.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I've noticed something since twenty twenty one when I do
a lot of readings for people. Okay, since twenty twenty one,
nearly every single person that has come to me is
advanced in their knowledge of spirituality and uh, you know
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the chakra systems, energy vibration, and uh, they're simply coming
for a little boost, some some advice, you know, maybe
a new direction to go. Are you finding also that
there are a lot of people waking up right now
and that that has been recent?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yes, absolutely, and thank God for that, you know, I
mean thank god, I'm not the only one that knows
this or and so you you know, and then we're
talking to each other and we're creating even more you know,
awareness and permission for people to understand and even research
it for themselves. And yeah, we're in this. We're in disclosure.
(39:44):
I mean, we are in it. It's happening. And you know,
whatever we thought or pre you know, precognitive or whatever
thought that always going to come from, like the President
standing on the on the lawn of the White House
and giving a speech. This is this is a multi
layered process and it's going to take some time because
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we need to be able to have time to integrate
all these different levels of knowings, of understandings, of new knowledge,
of revelations. I mean the word in like the Book
of Revelation, which in Greek is apocalypse. So people always
think apocalypse means disaster. That doesn't mean that that's not
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included in it. But the word itself means revelation, which
means disclosure. And we are living through it. So we're
waking up from you know, the spells of of you know,
the past and being kept in the dark, the true
dark ages, you know, because they kept people in the
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dark about stuff, and they persecuted and hung them and
burned them alive and did all these horrible things because
they they knew the truth. Okay, So what I, as
a researcher examine is what are they so threatened by? What?
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Why are communication with other beings? Uh, communication with God
and the Holy Spirit and Mary and Yeshua and and
e tes What are they so threatened by? Why did
we as a planet, as a group, as a historical
timeline have to go through that? And that's where we
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have to come out the other end in our disclosure
process to not only heal from that which we're healing
now because people are waking up and coming, you know,
and understanding these things, but also get to be able
to integrate and get ready for this next layer of it. Okay,
because one thing I can say with certainty based on
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the research and based on just the reality that we're
living in, that this is an ancient it stems, it's
rooted in this ancient cosmic battle over us and over
the real estate over earth. So if we if we
come and we moved through disclosure with that understanding, then
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we won't fall into the traps of getting deceived by
so many of these beings that have been playing with
us for a very long time. So like even with religion,
Like there's so many religions that are influenced by the aliens,
And why is that? What are they? What are they getting?
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What do they want from us? And they want energy?
You know. The Monroe Institute which got involved in the
Gateway Pride that the CIA worked with, Like, they came
out with a word called luche okay, because they saw
that this and that's that basically represents soul, energies, memories,
stuff that comes out of humans. And they saw that
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this was a thing. And the reptilians, the group of
reptilians that live inside this planet, they harvest human energy.
They are able to take memories from a human being,
take them out of your mind and implant them into
a different being, whether it's a hybrid that they're creating
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or another human. Okay, And they have there's stories about
all this. There was a movie The Truth Is Stranger
than Fiction. There was the movie back in the eighties
called Total recol You remember.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
That with Oh yeah, I mean those and.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Those concepts are put into these scripts, put into these
movies for a reason, and they're purposely done because back
in the nineteen fifties, the Majestic twelve Days, they knew
that they had to control the information, but they also
knew that it was the responsible thing to do was
to propel, to prepare are the public for this. So
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they allowed these concepts. They gave some of these concepts
to film and TV writers and put them into the scripts,
so that this is what I call soft disclosure, because
then people can watch it and have an understanding of it,
get the concept at least, and not necessarily buy into
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it and say, oh, this is really happening. Those of
us who are awake can connect the dots and say, oh,
that's real.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Exactly. Just for example, Star Trek exactly from the sixties,
the original one. All of those things are here now
and people are looking at that and going, hey, if
that's true, what else could there be And what other
capabilities do we have in technologies do we have? Like
(44:55):
the drone incursion we just had all over the United States?
Yeah those were ours, okay, uh, but our planes could
not shoot them down. It was a whole other faction.
But anyway, I digress. That is yeah, right, Please please
tell me what this is about.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Oh well, that's my little motley crew of eight's aliens
and angels that I kind of sketched. I'm not an artist.
Uh So I gave this to my illustrator and and
he he was able to translate what I saw and
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put it in. Uh And all those beings are analyzed
in great detail in my first book, Who's Who in
the Cosmic Zoo Book one, and I just put the
fourth edition out last year, so it's all updated. So
the back cover has this all colored and pretty. But
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you can see that, oh yeah, that's that's also part
of that cover there, it is that. That's it all is.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I recognize some of those beans.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I'm sure you do.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
I'll have to have a chat about that. So you have.
Let's see, I'm going to just I'm going to go
through these uphosened the Bible.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yes, the second book has all those scriptures that relates
to spaceships like technology. You know, Hebrew is a language
of physics, so it's it's very technical. The books of
Ezekiel are very.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Technical, okay. And then Cosmic Slingshot.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
This is coming out this spring. It will be released soon.
And this is part of what I was telling you about.
And so I'm proving mainly to Christians but anyone else
that this has been a Jewish concept, not a Hindu concept.
That doesn't mean the Hindus don't have their own version
of it. In fact, all the religions and all the
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cultures on the earth have always forever believed in reincarnation.
Only the Christians have a problem with it. And that's
because of an implant that was put in on the
timeline three seventy five AD from the Nician Council, and
they were told not to believe. We're told that they
were anathematic rome if they should believe in such heresies.
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So it's gone so far in indoctrination, brainwashing, actual spells,
like magical spells that keep people under you blinded so
they can't see the truth, and that they can't even
see it they're in their own bibles. So I just
got tired of arguing with them, and I thought, you know,
and the Lord said to me, just put it all
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in one book, because every one of my books as
a chapter about it. So like the first book, I
have a chapter on what the Reptilians do after when
you die, if you're if you belong to them. They
process you, they strip you of all their stuff, and
then they let you go through the slingshot. So the
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word cosmic slingshot is the English translation of the Hebrew
word for reincarnation, which is kafa kella, which literally means
a cosmic slingshot. And it comes from the story of
King David. And if you remember the famous story where
he killed the giant with a slingshot.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Uh huh, okay, fascinating stuff you've So you have seven books,
and are they all published now?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Well, the Cosmic Slingshot will be out probably in May.
Six books are available at the moment, well, the sixth,
the first six of the Cosmic Zoo. Cosmic Slingshot is
sort of a parabook of who's who in the Cosmic Zoo.
It's not like Book seven. Book seven is about Disclosure,
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which I'm hopefully getting out by the end of the year.
But I needed to do this first because and all
my experiences with all these people that sort of, you know,
negatively inspired me to put this book together. I feel
like it's needed and people need sort of a handbook,
(49:33):
a reference book to help them in their own debates.
And I encourage everybody to use my stuff and use
it in their own debates, you know, because it's research.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
So and a lot of research, I may say, you
really go into detail in your books and proof what
you're saying. I think all of this information that you
have produced and continue to do is very important. I
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think everybody really needs to take a look at it
because it's about what is truly happening. And people are
waking up.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
There people that I've seen in my own life who
have been very left brain, let's say, and not open
to these things are suddenly starting to see things. And
of course when Pentagon said, yeah, there are things out there,
we don't know what they are, then that made it okay. Suddenly,
(50:37):
oh hey you were right all along. Wow, amazing, And
then maybe I can have my own experience, is what
they say. Now they're ready for it. Do you think,
generally speaking, that the world is ready for all of
this information?
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yes? And no. I think there's a growing group that
is getting ready and very ready. And then there's another
group of blood arts or ludites, whatever you want to
call them, that are stuck in cognitive dissonance and denial.
And I'm also blaming the CIA for part of that
because they have they kind of specialized in gaslighting the
(51:16):
American people for so long that they got people to
believe that the lie is the truth and the truth
is the lie, and that's a curse, you know. So
so you have people today that that that can't even
get around the celebration of rescuing these astronauts from space
(51:36):
because they think the whole thing was was fake or
it was you know, staged or whatever. You know, I'm
very big because I'm a retired legal assistant and paralegal,
and I'm very big on witnesses. And you know, witnesses
are legal evidence in a court of law. A witness
(51:57):
testimony carries a lot of Wait. So when you have
like eleven space agencies, okay, and thousands of astronauts that
have gone up and down into space and not a
single one of them has come back and said, hey,
by the way, the Earth is flat, and yet you
have all these people, Yeah, they have all these people
(52:21):
all over the internet saying this this was a see
a psychological operation, And you thought, why would they do
such a thing, Why would they regress so far into
medieval stuff? Because the Catholic Church used to say that,
and they used to kill people if they went against them. Okay,
then they came later and denounced it and renounced it
(52:43):
and repented of it, and it's no longer their doctrine.
Yet these are reincarnated ex Catholics from medieval times that
seem to believe this. So you think, why would the
CIA allow this and put this out there? Because this
was a siah. Because it's a perfect okay to cover
up the secret space program. Because if they believe nothing's
(53:05):
coming or go and you can't get beyond the dome,
they can't believe in extraterrestrials or secret space, and they
can't if they think the Earth is a is a pancake,
then they can't get their head around that there's civilizations
and cities and underground bases inside the Earth. Perfect cover.
So you've got cognitive dissonance and denial like on steroids
(53:30):
with this flat earth stuff and moon denials and people
can't go come and go in space. Yet meanwhile, they're
on Mars, they've been there since the eighties. They're in
the they're on the Moon. Okay, they're in I mean,
you know, and all this is happening right under our noses.
So if we're really ready for disclosure, then these people
have to unravel and undo and get deprogrammed, okay, from
(53:58):
all these false beliefs, because they're are the ones holding people.
This is the reason why we don't have full disclosure
because they can't handle it. They can't handle the truth.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Yeah, the CIA seems to have their hands and everything,
especially social media, and I've noticed, you know, having a
broadcasting network. They will come in and make these comments
that it's always against whatever you believe, right so, and
they'll pretend like they're normal human being, but you can
(54:29):
just read right there they were a plant and they're everywhere.
It's like, welly doubt, here's where all of our black
ops money goes to, these idiots sitting behind a desk
trying to undermine everybody who has an idea of the truth.
(54:51):
Uh yeah, it's it's gotten a little bit insane. How
can people get your books?
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Ella?
Speaker 3 (54:56):
Okay, Oh well, thank you very much. I'm on Amazon
pretty much worldwide, paperback and Kindle, and then my website
Who's whointhecosmiczoo dot com. I only ship in the United States,
but I also have PDF versions and I can email
them anywhere.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Awesome. Thank you so much for being on the program tonight.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
I can talk to you for hours likewise, thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
All right, We'll be in touch. Thank you. All right.
That is another edition of Annex News and I will
see you here again next week. And yes we do
have a new format coming, but that will be probably
about mid April. I'll see you next week
Speaker 1 (56:00):
To teach, teach,
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