October 6, 2025 • 59 mins
Route 66 earned the grim nickname "Bloody 66" through decades of fatal accidents since its establishment on November 11, 1926. This legendary 2,448-mile stretch connecting Chicago to Santa Monica has witnessed far more than ordinary cross-country travel—it has become a supernatural corridor where the dead refuse to rest. In Margie's latest book, she presents some of the most haunted sites along the infamous Route 66. Starting in Chicago, Illinois, the route then takes the traveler through Missouri, Oklahoma, a short section of Texas, through New Mexico, Arizona, and Southern California. The route was created long before the Interstate highway system, winding and bending through the terrain. The ghostly history along the route is the stuff of legends, with people reporting apparitions on the road, haunted motels and hotels, haunted graveyards, strange time anomalies, weird road changes, and even Skinwalker sightings. If you’re thinking of taking an interesting trip across the country, take this book with you and hit the most haunted places along the way. Many of the sites mentioned in the book are still in operation today. Experience a chilling journey through the haunted stretches of America’s iconic Route 66, where history intertwines with paranormal phenomena. This comprehensive guide explores the spectral tales and supernatural hotspots from Illinois to California, including the notorious Route 666. In this broadcast, Margie discusses some of the most haunted sites on the ghostly highway. Join the X at www.unxnetwork.com to receive our newsletter and more perks!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's time for the unexed News News. Extraterrestrials, time anomalies,
dimension dimensions, remote viewing, UFOs, UAPs and USO's, ghostly encounters, abductions, Bigfoot,
and more more, your end of the week news source
(00:25):
for everything everything unexplained. Here is your host for the
unex News podcast, Margie Kay.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Good evening, everyone, Welcome to unex News. I'm your host,
Margie K. And today I have a co host with me,
none other than the producer of the UNX Network, Rate Hobbs.
Hi Race.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
How you doing, Margie. It's good to see you.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Good, good to see you. We talk a lot, but
we don't we don't do shows together a lot. So
this is a treat.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's been a while, it's been a monting.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And in fact, you know, we've got October thirty first
coming up, which will be the fourth anniversary of the
Annex Network. So we're playing in some good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
For that.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And it's going to be fun, so stay tuned for that.
I do want to mention a couple of things well tonight,
as you probably saw in the ads we sent out tonight,
we're going to be discussing I have take a haunted
road Trip on Route sixty six. And that is my
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new book. It's coming out on Monday, the twenty second.
Following this book, I'm going to be writing one called
take a UFO Trip on Root sixty six sow. So
this one is brand new. It's coming out on the
same day as another book. And I thought I'd just
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put that in here. Did not just put that in here? Here?
It is okay UFO attacks in Brazil. It's the true
story of the most terrifying events in the history of
ufology by theogo Luis Tocchetti. He will be on the
program on Tuesday with me on the mowf On Midwest program.
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This is an extraordinary book. We are publishing it on
the same day of books.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Brazil is loaded with cases, Margie that do have physical
electromagnetic trace. I mean they have an abundance of them.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
They do, and it is so strange that they have
so many in South America, you know, Brazil and other
places where people have been physically injured or actually died. Yes,
too close to a UFO, too close to an EG,
touching an EG. So this is one of those cases.
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People were physically.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Harmed and there were some mysterious deaths if I recall
in the Cholaris event, for example, where some of the
high level military officials that wound up coming forward later
had some mysterious deaths involved with them. I remember when
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back when I first, you know, when UFOs were just
a hobby of uap UFOs. The Cholaris case was one
of the first that really just rocked me because of
the fact that there were so many people in this
small environment that we're all having these same symptoms and
physical effects and wounds, so many witnesses and physicians that
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were there to catalog and scientifically record all of this
stuff because there was only like one or two on
the whole in the whole place, and physicians, and they
were astounded by, you know, what people were claiming. And
they started off with mass delusions and went from there
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until the physicians themselves were walking out of their clinic
one night and saw the phenomenon themselves. I mean, Brazil
really has it. They've got. If you're new to UFOs
and your interest in UFOs, or if you've been in
it for a long time, you know, and this this
individual knows their stuff. So I'm getting a copy of
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this book myself. I've got to get it signed.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, this is Theago is the director of moof on Brazil,
and I know he's there on this case, so uh yeah,
this is one to get. But we digress because we're
going to talk about our one hundred sixty six. However,
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I do have one more thing to talk about. First,
do check out our blog at unex network dot com
if you want to know what's going on in your
state this season, because Violet is doing a special blog.
She's putting a state up every day. It's called the
unex Network Halloween Season Spooky Guide, and she just got
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Louisiana up today, so she's down to the els. She
should have all of them up by mid October. And
she lists events and tours such as the Queen's Labyrinth,
Halloween mess Raid, a Court of Fire and Fate, the
Dark Woods, and other other events. And then there's of
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course a listing of real top ponded locations. Louisiana is
a big state for that, the Oak Alley Plantation, the
Lollori Mansion we know about, and many others. And then
she also lists family friendly events. So yeah, if you
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want something to do in your state, do check out
our blog at unex network dot com.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I love Louisiana, by the way. I love going down
there Myrtle Plantation and hem and bath.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It's just so have you been to the Myrtles?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh yeah, yeah. If I don't know, we're gonna talk
about it. I had my Myrtles Plantation coffee mug that
I got from there.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh my gosh. Well no, I didn't know we were either.
But what did you experience?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Twice? I've been there twice. My first experience I just
about had an accident, like pulling in the parking lot.
And then the second time I went was with my
former my former radio station I worked for. We went
up there to do just to walk through kind of
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investigation and just to go back through it and see it.
And it had changed so much. The barn outside kind
of stable building had burned down, and then they just
made a they rebuilt what was left of it and
made like a gift shop and like a tourist kind
of a little place where could go in and learn
all about it and get tourists stuff. And that's where
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I got my shirts and my coffee mugs and all.
I got my coffee with chickory in it, you know.
And all the stuff they've got there. It's really cool.
But Myrtles is a beautiful, a beautiful plantation and very
very rich history of being haunted it. I was so
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captured by the first time one of marchin when I
was pulling in. You go through this kind of s
curve through a guard shack, you come up, you're looking
at the home as you're going uphill to one side.
You turn and come back and there's that Spanish moss,
you know, that just sway through the trees, and it
almost hypnotizes you. You know, it's just knowing you're on
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the grounds of the Great Myrtle plantation alone gets you
kind of stirred up from everything you learned about it,
read about it, watch about it on TV, and then
you're there. I think I was just overwhelmed by But
I was pulling in the parking lot and I can
I remember there was that awning and everything on the
house where they have that photograph of those two kids
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that are on this little awning looking down on what
was one of the house slaves. The lady, I forget
her name now doesn't come to mind at the moment,
but she had lost an ear because she got caught
listening through the door of her boss or her master
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or whatever, and they cut her ear off to as punishment.
I forget her name, but she worked there for a
long long time, and those kids died. They were supposedly
she poisoned, tried to poison him for cutting off her ear,
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and she wound up killing the two kids. Poisoning the
two kids, and they supposedly have this image. I don't
even know if it's real or not, but man, I
remember seeing that image in my mind when I was
It was like I was driving right where they took
that picture, that old black and white picture, and I
was just so caught up in that that I just
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kept driving. And my wife and kids were yelling at
me to stop, stop, stop, and I wasn't listening to them.
I was just captured by something else mentally and m
but I was. It was like I was just numb
to it, and I was just focused on that house.
And by the time I stopped, half of the van
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was off of the parking lot, like I was about
to head down into the the little slope behind the house,
because the house is perched on a little hill inside woods,
and I was about to drive off down the backside
of it, and.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh, that wouldn't have been good.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
No, no, no, but you know, myrtles, it is well
worth the trip to Saint Francisville, Louisiana to see. And
then down the road there's another place. I think it's
called the Hymen Bow, huge mansion they rented out for
weddings and events, and I mean, and it's another one
that is really worth a stop to see.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Okay, but I've heard of that one. All right, Well,
we're gonna we're gonna get back to Rude sixty six.
Now there's a lot. There's a lot to it. When
I started digging into to write this book, I had
no idea what I was getting into. So basically, Route
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sixty six starts in Chicago, goes through Illinois, through Missouri, Oklahoma,
a little bit of the top of Texas. There's not
a whole lot there, but there are a few good
haunted sites. Then of course through New Mexico, Arizona, and California.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That's where that's where I've done time with Route sixty
six was when Robin and I lived in Albuquerque. Yeah,
oh yeah, and we I actually got on it and
drove on it and I was like, man, this would
have been you did you know if you were in
a corvette where you could actually go fast or a
faster car. I don't. I could see how people would
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have wrecks on those on that road because like they
didn't come through with dozers and like grade sections of
it smooth. It just goes over little hills. You know,
they're not very big at all. It's like, why didn't
they smooth this over? They just paved it right over
the little hills.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, it was before the highway systems.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So here I'm going to explain a little bit about
the birth of Rout sixty six and the early legends. Initially,
Route sixty six followed Illinois State four from Chicago to
East Saint Louis, though the section from Springfield south was
relocated in nineteen thirty to roughly the path of what
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is now Interstate fifty five, and I just lost my spot.
What travelers don't realize is that Route sixty six repurposed
ancient pathways. The route was a well traveled path long
before it became an official road. Before receiving its iconic designation,
people traveled between Chicago and Saint Louis on the Pontiac Trail,
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an unpaved stagecoach byway following Native American trails. As Americans
migrated westward, human traffic increased along this natural corridor. The
Tye Road Law of nineteen thirteen state assistance for roadside improvement,
setting the stage for what would become Route sixty six,
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and Illinois earned the distinction of being the first state
with its section completely paved. This early development made Illinois's
Route sixty six particularly significant and perhaps explains why so
many spirits seemed attached to this stretch. The flatness of
the Illinois portion made it a popular truck route, and
during World War Two, it's important surged as a critical
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path from military convoys. Interestingly, al Capone allegedly supported the
construction of this sleek new road. Subsequently, the notorious gangster
used Illinois's first fully paved highway to bootleg liquor doing
during Prohibition, driving a bulletproof V sixteen Cadillac painted to
blend in with Chicago police cars. Well, isn't that clever? Okay?
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So many towns that sprouted along Route sixty six harbored
individuals hell bent on doing dastardly deeds, as a result,
when people met unnatural ends, some believe they've had trouble
transitioning to the afterlife. This dark history, coupled with decades
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of travelers passing through, has created what paranormal investigators consider
a uniquely active spiritual quarridor through Illinois. Despite Route sixty
six being officially decommissioned in nineteen eighty five, the ghosts
of its heyday refused to disappear, making the Illinois stretch
of the Mother Road as famous for its spectral residents
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as for its historical significance. And so what I'm going
to do. I'm going to talk about one place in
each in each state as Route sixty six goes through.
And of course the most popular in Illinois is the
Congress Plaza Hotel in Chicago. Standing majestically at the beginning
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of Route sixty six. The Congress Plaza Hotel has earned
its reputation as a most haunted hotel in Illinois since
opening its stores in eighteen ninety three for the World's
Columbian Exposition. This historic glenmark has accumulated ghost stories as
steadily as it has welcomed guests. Al Capones, the notorious
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gangster Al Capone features prominently in the hotel's supernatural lore.
While many believed he maintained headquarters on the eighth floor
of the North Tower, historical records dispute this claim. If
anywhere is haunted in Chicago, it's the Congress Hotel. Notes
paranormal expert Tony Sibelski guest report encountering a heavy set
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man in an old fashioned suit roaming the corridors at night.
The distinctive sound of his two tone wingtip shoes clicking
down hallways alerts visitors to his presence. Although Capone never
likely checked in under his own name, his associates certainly
conducted business on the premises. Among the hotel's most peculiar
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phenomenon is the Hand of Mystery. What appears to be
a human hand reaching out from behind a wall near
the Gold Room's balcony, originally believed to belong to a
construction worker accidentally in two during building investigations reveal its
likely just odd shaped calk that resembles finger and a thumb. Meanwhile,
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peg leg Johnny remains one of the most frequently spotted apparitions.
This one legged vagrant reportedly met his demise in the
alley behind the hotel. Staff and guests encounter him throughout
the building in hallways, guest rooms, the lobby, and dining areas.
His mischievous spirit enjoys manipulating electronics and light switches peg
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leg Johnny, Oh, my gosh, that sounds like a troublemaker there.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I love that name. That's sharp.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So Room four forty one if you want to stay there,
you might want to check this out, but only if
you have a strong stomach. It holds a distinction of
generating more security calls than any other room in the hotel.
Guest reports seeing a shadowy female figure who kicks them awake,
tugs at blankets, and moves objects without being touched. The
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paranormal activity has become so notorious that past visitors have
fled their rooms in panic. So that's Room four four
to one. The hotel's ballrooms harbored their own mysteries. Security
guards report hearing phantom piano notes playing in the Florentine room,
despite no one being present in the same space. Wedding
parties occasionally discover that bridesmaids posing for photographs mysteriously don't
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appear in the developed pictures. Whoa from Captain Lewis as time,
nicknamed the shadow Man, who committed suicide in nineteen hundred
to the ghost of six year old Carol Langer on
the twelfth floor. The Congress Plaza hotel continues welcoming both
living guests and those who seemingly never checked out. That
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is an interesting one. Now, let me get down to
the next state in order, which is Missouri.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And I sixty six passes rut between you and me
just about perfectly. I was looking at your map, yes, yeah,
and you're in Kansas City and I'm down here like
in Fort Smith, and it's like right between us.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It is, so yeah, I'm gonna mention one other because
I've been there, and I was there recently with my husband.
It's called the Ruble Hotel and it's in Grafton, Illinois,
where the Haunted America Conference is held every year, and
so I decided to stay there because it's disposedly very haunted.
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It's at two seventeen East Male Street in Grafton. The
hotel was built in eighteen seventy nine and it shows it.
I mean, it's original. All the woodwork and everything is
really cool. It opened in eighteen eighty four. By Michael Ruble.
It boasted a saloon as well, which is still there.
It burned down in nineteen twelve but was quickly rebuilt
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with an additional restaurant on the first floor in a
dance hall on the second floor. In ninety seven, new
owners purchased a property and reopened it. The hotel has
a unique historic look to it, with many details. It's
fascinating to look at, but the ghosts make it extra special.
When we arrived and checked in our room, I heard
banging on the outside wall. When I opened the door
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to see what the cause was, there was no one there,
as if someone was just banging with their hand or
something heavy. It occurred the next day well, so I
asked the staff what they knew, and they had not
heard of that happening before. They did say that most
of the activity occurs in the kitchen, with pots, pans,
and dishes often moving or being thrown across the rooms
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and doors opening and closing on their own. However, there
is another spirit that lingers, and it is a little
girl named Abigail. Abigail has been seen in the upstairs
hallway and on the stairs by many patrons. She either
died of tuberculosis, or in the nineteen twelve fire, the
child may be responsible for her footsteps heard late at night,
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items vanaging and unexplained orbs witnessed by patrons and paranormal investigators.
I spoke with a past guest who said that her
aunt was tripped by an unseen leg and fell at
the top of the stairs. They believe it was a
mischievous ghost child who did the deed. Oh boy, Yeah,
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So I heard really good things about that hotel and
how the ghosts were all really nice. But then I
heard from a couple of other people that they had
bad experiences there. So just be careful around the stairs,
especially because that's how you get up to the second floor.
That's at the old old staircase. All right. So now Missouri,
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now it comes. Historic Route sixty six winds through Missouri.
With more than just scenic views and nostalgic roadside attractions,
it harbors some of America's most chilling paranormal hotspots. The
iconic highway, established in nineteen twenty six, has become legendary
not only for its historic significance, but also for its
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ghostly residence. Surprisingly, Missouri's stretch of this famous road contains
an unusual concentration of haunted locations, from the tragic spirits
of Limp Mansion to the mysterious apparitions at Devil's Elbow.
Countless travelers have reported unexplainings throughout the years. These eerie
sites along Route sixty six continue to attract both skeptics
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and believers seeking to experience the supernatural. So a lot
of people have heard of the Limp Mansion in Saint Louis,
So I'm just going to go over over this very briefly.
The Limp family Saga Bean when joe ann Adam Limp immigrated.
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Johann Adam Limp immigrated from Germany to Saint Louis in
eighteen thirty eight. Initially he opened a grocery store, and
they soon focused exclusively on brewing beer like a lot
of other people did in Saint Louis. Made I've got
a lot of money at it, and he established the
Western Brewery Company by eighteen forty. Then his son, William J.
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Limp Senior led the company at flourished, eventually becoming one
of the top twenty brewing companies in the world and
top ten in the country. The family's tremendous sixess, however,
gave wayh sorry lostitch by page. I switched by page
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too fast? Okay, it gave way to a series of tragedies. Frederick,
William Senior's favorite son and heir apparent, died mysteriously in
nineteen oh one at just twenty eight years old. Devastated
by this loss, William Senior became increasingly depressed and eventually
shot himself in nineteen oh four. His widow, Julia, died
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of cancer two years later in the same bedroom. The curse,
which is now known as seemed to follow subsequent generations.
William Junior took over the business, but struggled with alcoholism
and personal problems. When prohibition arrived in nineteen twenty, the
brewery suffered tremendously. That same year, William's sister Elsa shot
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herself just days after remarrying. Two years later, William Junior
also died by suicide in his office at the mansion.
Charles Limp became the final family member to live in
the house, eventually taking his own life in nineteen forty
nine after leaving a note that read, in case I'm
found dead, blaming it on no one but me. Now
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I had visited the limp. I investigated it along with
Debbie Ziegelmeyer several years ago, and immediately upon entering they
have a restaurant at a lower level, so we had lunch,
and immediately upon entering that house, I felt a heaviness,
just like the air was super thick, so I knew
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something was truly going on. So common paranormal experiences include
glasses flying off the bar as it's as if struck
by an invisible hand, phantom knockings, footsteps, and disembodied voices,
full body apparitions resembling family members, particularly William Senior, who
was also observed by myself during an investigation in the basement.
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So I am, Debbie and I are both in the basement,
were the only people there, and there's a hallway that
goes down to a little bar area this kind of offset,
and then behind the bar you see an arch, but
it's all bricked in. So I turned around and I
saw a man, an older gentleman wearing a suit, come
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walking forward, turn left into that little bar area and
then walk straight through the brick underneath the arch. So
I asked there was a man behind the bar at
the time, and he was getting ready for some event
that night, and I said, by any chance, is there
a gentleman? And I described what you looked like and
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he goes, oh, yeah, that was William Senior. And they
had tunnels underground from their house to the brewery, so
he wanted to avoid the public and he would walk
through the tunnel and that was the interest to the
tunnel where he just walked into.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Oh my goodness, and.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
It was, I mean, full body apparition.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
What'd you say to this place?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Was Margie the Lamp Mansion in St. Mansion in Saint Louis,
And it's beautiful. I mean, it's a red brick structure.
It's just stunning.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
See I get. That's what I get stuck in, just
like with like the Crescent over in your experience. I
get really because I come with a construction background, you
know what I mean, And just like your husband, you know,
being a master mason and he has to look at
brickwork and rock work and foundation work and things. You
just get caught up in all of that. And these
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older places that were just I mean, these people were
like artisans in some cases, master craftsman that built it
stuff by hand, and you just have to stop and
take appreciation of that alone, and then all of this happens,
you know. So it's it's.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Like kind of get you kind of get two for
one if you like history and you like buildings like
I do. I mean, I'm always looking at every detail.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
And then and then of course haunted. That's that's great.
People also experienced the overwhelming scent of lavender perfume associated
with the lavender Lady Lilian Handlin Limp also experienced by
the by myself during the investigation. We uh, were in
her bedroom and Debbie and I both had the smell
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of lavender perfume very strong. Contractors abandoned renovation projects after
tools mysteriously disappeared. Sudden drops in temperature in the bedroom
formerly occupied by Lilian Limp. We experienced that too, uh,
and I had a digital thermometer with me that you
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aim at things to get the temperature, and we just
stood there in this cold spot and just watched the
temperature go down, down, down, down ten degrees in no time.
So that was very interesting. Furthermore, visitors have reported feeling watched,
hearing strange moaning sounds, and capturing unexplained faces and photographs. Fortunately,
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I didn't get that. The mansion staff has also documented
numerous accounts from overnight guests who experienced paranormal activity, particularly
in the rooms where family members died. Paranormal groups and
individual ghost hunters are likely to experience one or more
events that leave them satisfy that the location is seriously haunted.
And I have spoken to several paranormal investigators and they
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say every time they get something, something will happen. That's
pretty guaranteed. So they do do tours at the mansion.
So if you check on the internet with them, if
you want to take a tour, you can schedule that
you can have lunch or dinner there.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Margie, that family had something I've just down. I looked
it up and that I was thinking they had something
to do with like beer, and it I'm reading here
now that they built the first they built the first
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Logger beer brewery. Yeah, that is that's all, you know,
being German immigrants. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, but all of those tragic things that happened to them.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So many suicides in their family there.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
There there was I feel like there was something else
going on there that's very dark, and that energy is
still there that may have been there before they even
built that house.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Right where they built it was on a place that
was active already.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
On something that actually made them commit suicide, made them depressed.
Who knows that sort of thing happens people.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
And I'm telling you right now there there are places
on Earth where the energy just can unravel a human brain. Yeah,
just unravel it. The m triangle comes in Russia comes
to mind. People go in this place and they come
out just completely different, scrambled. Some people come out with
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bad effects that last a lifetime. Some people don't come
out at all. There's places in Japan, a place in
Japan where people go to commit suicide in these woods,
in this forest. I mean, there are just places on
Earth that you can't explain the energy that is downturned there.
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But you know, you're surrounded by some of the most
beautiful landscape on top of the earth. But I think
what's under it is the ant where the answer is.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well, there are positive places in their negative places, And
there's something called a vile vortex, which spins in an
anti clockwise direction. And when if you run into a
vile vortex at anything is possible. So it's usually dark, Okay,
I want to hit We're going to run out of time.
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I want to hit Pithian Castle real quick in Springfield, Missouri.
And that's my photo. It started in nineteen oh nine
when Springfield vied against seven other cities to become the
location for the Pythian Home, a retirement facility built by
the Knights of pitheis paternal organization for their members and families,
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and it's a huge structure. It served as a gathering
place until nineteen forty two, when the US military took
control to utilize it alongside a neighboring hospital treating injured
American soldiers. Additionally, German and Italian POWs were housed in
the castle during World War Two for medicalture care, and
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work duties. A number of these prisoners were detained in
the separate utility building and warshroom facility behind the main structure.
Following the war's conclusion, the building remained under federal ownership
until nineteen ninety three sail to a private buyer. Now,
I want to make sure everybody understands the military is
still there on another structure. They only carved out a
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piece big enough for the castle to be privately owned,
and there's no big parking lot. It's a small parking lot,
so only a few people can actually go there at
the same time. It's very strange, and why the military
is still there. They don't know, they told me. In
twenty eleven, the television program Ghost Lab investigated the property,
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validating claims of supernatural activity from former occupants. In twenty seventeen,
Ghost Adventures visited and they investigated. They do weekly ghost
tours every Tuesday and Friday. And I'm going to tell
you that that place is located only a couple of
blocks from the most haunted house I have ever investigated
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or ever lived in. I lived in it in the
when I was in my teens in the seventies. And
here is a picture of that haunted house. It was
a big, three thousand square foot home and it's you've
heard me talk about it before and probably will again.
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But I did include that in the book as well.
And then also across the street is Drury College campus
and it is also very haunted. And there's also the
fact that a Civil War battle was fought at the
site of all three of these locations, so it doesn't
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surprise me that they're haunted. And yeah, there's it's just
very very very strange stuff going on there. Okay, now
we're going to be moving to of course, you know
the Joplin Hornet Spooklight is a big place too in Joplin,
and that is a show for by itself, which will
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be coming soon. So Gansas is the next place. And
let me get down here to ah Stole Cemetery the
Gateway to Hell supposed to be. So a few years
ago a friend of mine, Daniel Lowing, he knew I
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was taking a trip and he says, oh, You've got
to stop by Stole Cemetery to see if it's the
gateway to Hell, because I'd never been there, and I
didn't investigate, And so I did, and it's so I arrived,
and I would disappointed when I found that the graveyard
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was fenced in with a locked gate, and the driveway
was just big enough for one car to park in
front of the gate, so that's where I parked. There
were signs do not enter our private property, so it's
not like a regular graveyard where you know, I don't
even know how people get in there to visit their
families or their loved ones. But I stayed for quite
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a while. I didn't see anyone else around. There were
hardly any cars on this road and the town is
extremely small. So across the street was a fire station
that looked active, but there was no one there at
the time. So I stood next to the gate. I
took a few photos, and I scanned the area remote
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viewing it. Then I was immediately drawn to one area
to my right and at the top of the hill,
next to a grove of trees, and there I sensed
a very dark energy that was building up in intensity.
I also saw a small shack in my mind eye,
but not with the naked eye. The dark energy seemed
to notice me and began to slowly move down the
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hill and in my direction. Now I've had that happen before.
I do not like that feeling at all, and that's
when I decided it would be best not to confront
whatever it was and leave the area. As I left,
the energy seemed to stop at the gate. And then
in doing research on the internet, I found that legends
about the cemetery have circulated for more than one hundred years.
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The University of Kansas newspaper posted an article in nineteen
seventy four about the many strange occurrences at this site,
including a legend that the Devil himself appears in person
twice each year, once at the spring equinox and again
on you guessed it, Halloween night, according to the article
which is met here on a regular basis, and people
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have had ghostly encounters as well. One person said they
were grabbed on the arm by an unseen hand while
walking among the graves. The residents, however, of Stull, that
they've never experienced anything strange, and they are annoyed that
people come looking for trouble, so they erected the lock
gate to keep people out. Now. I found out later
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the area where I felt that dark energy coming up
from the ground was the original site of a small
chapel that was supposedly haunted and also where witches met.
And that was true, that there was something there, and
there were people having meetings there privately that weren't supposed to.
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So Okay, and there, of course, there are other places
in Kansas, But I want to move on. I'm just
taking a few excerpts from the book so that you
can get an idea of what I cover here. So
Oklahoma is next, and let me get to one of
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the sites There are some real ghost towns that are
frozen in time, and this one. This is the Magnolia
Service Station in Texola, Oklahoma. Stretch of the Mother Road
is dotted with communities that time has nearly erased, places
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where abandoned buildings and empty streets tell stories of prosperity
turned to dust. These ghost towns offer some of the
most haunted places in Oklahoma, where visitors report unexplained phenomena
amid the decaying remnants of once thriving communities. Here we go,
this is the one. This is the Magnolia Service Station.
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So Texola is considered to be a living ghost town.
It had a peak population of five eighty one and
nineteen thirty and now it has maybe thirty six people.
The town's peculiar history adds to its supernatural atmosphere. Due
to its location the one hundredth meridian, Texola was serving
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ad eight different times, meeting Some early residents technically lived
in both Texas and Oklahoma without ever moving homes. This
geographic uncertainty seems to have manifested in a spectral uncertainty,
with visitors reporting strained sensations of displacement. Now, the along
Route sixty six. I want you to realize that there's
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a lot more going on than just ghosts. People have
had had unexplained things happened, like driving down the road
and then all of a sudden they're back where they started,
and they're taking the same route again, seeing the same
signs on the road, or jumping from one place to another,
driving along and then all of a sudden they're a
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couple hundred miles down the road and they thought it
was only one minute in time that that app passed by,
and other things which we will get to. So these
The Scurvan Hotel in Oklahoma City was built in nineteen eleven.
This fourteen story Art Deco landmark stands is Oklahoma City's
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oldest hotel and unquestionably its most haunted. Hey, race your back,
I made it back. Ye you disappeared for a minute. Okay,
So this Scurvan Hotel says male guests received particular attention
from Effie, a reported ghost there. NBA players have blamed
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poor game performance on supernatural disturbances at the servant. In
twenty ten, Nick Center ed Curry, despite outweighing his teammate
by over one hundred pounds, fled to Nate Robinson's Room
for Protection. Lakers Forward met as Standford our test reported
an amorous ghost assault in twenty sixteen, while the Chicago
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Bulls documented bizarre noises and self slamming doors. Wow, okay,
Scirven Hotel, Oklahoma City, if you want to have a
weird experience there, guys, go check that out.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
All right.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
So we're going to move on now to the next state.
And I am going to find that. And we have
a few comments. Is there anything worth putting up? Their race?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Already put them up earlier when you were Oh.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay, it just didn't look look good to me. Okay,
here is one is called the nant Ballroom, and oh
I thought I put it up. No, okay, it's called
the Nanatorium. In Amarillo, it's called the nat also, according
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to local lore. Home to several spectral residents, this historic district,
now recognized on the National Register of Historic Places, has
been thoughtfully renovated into a charming antique coarter featuring unique
collectible shops, boutig stores, and inviting sidewalk cafes. The term
Natatorium historically referred to an indoor swimming facility, which was
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precisely this building's original purpose when it first opened its
stores in July of nineteen twenty two, but in nineteen
twenty six it was changed into an elegant dance hall
and called the Gnat Ballroom. During the Big Band area,
the Gnat boasted one of the Southwest premier dance floors,
including legendary performers such as Tommy Dorsey, Louis Armstrong, Betting Goodman, etc.
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In recent years, after its transformation into an antique mall,
owners and visitors have reported mysterious occurrences, including cold spots
in the former Upstills Stairs gambling Hall, Strange noises have
been heard in empty rooms, and furniture has been found
mysteriously rearranged overnight. Psychic claims to have encountered a female
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spirit in a white dress burying a red stain on
the bodice. According to local legend, this apparition is of
a woman who spent considerable time in the gambling hall
and once had red wines built on her dress during
an evening of merriment. Apparently, she enjoyed herself so thoroughly
that she decided to make the Nat her eternal home.
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And there's there's more people here. Orchestras playing you know,
ghostly music, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Well, imagine having an entire room worth of furniture being
rearranged on CCTV. If you could just watch that on video,
just watch that would the day they capture that is
when I'm you know, I'll avoid haunted places already, do
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as much as possible, But that would be I've seen
so many crazy things. You don't know what's real, what's
not real. But to actually see an authentic video of
something like that, I would lose it, Margie.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
You know me, I do, but I've seen so many
things that I'm now I'm pretty immune. I will just
stand there and look at it and watch it.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
It's the fact that they can move physical objects, you know.
It's like, that's what gets me. Like, if you could
move a chair or a couch from across the veil,
what's to stop you from picking up some scissors and
coming after you with them? Kitchen up? You know, some
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of those old haunted like stories that we grew up
with just take on a whole new meeting.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, when when spirits can do things like move objects,
it's impressive. But when they can move an entire room
of objects, all the chairs, the tables, everything that's that's
just crazy. That's a lot of power, that's a lot
of energy.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Is it a group effort like they.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Help you know, or oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
There's one spirit doing it. Now it would be something
to see, you know what I mean, like to walk
in and know no one else has been there. Uh,
you know, book stacking, the chairs. It's it's been documented
for decades, this kind of stuff, and it just baffles people.
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I mean in this day and age, really it can go.
People can go after it, you know, for content. It's
you know, not necessarily there's a lot of hucksters out there,
But back then it was really something that it was
a reputation you didn't want to have. People didn't want
to go stay and haunted locations, you know. Back then,
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back in the.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Day, No, no they didn't. And if they got a
bad reputation, they wouldn't. People wouldn't go not right out
of business.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Right. It was exactly the opposite of today, like most things. Right.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Okay, So now we've come to Glen Rio and the
town of nd that have become prime territory for those
seeking Root sixty six hauntings. Travel guides recommend the area
for photography, noting great photo opportunities abound in the Glenrio
and in the area. Be sure to check out the
remains of an old Rock Island trussel west of town
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on your way to Bard, New Mexico. What these guys
don't mention is how many photographs capture unexplainable phenomena light orbs,
shout do we figures, and other anomalies that defy rational explanation.
Nd has been quite forgotten by the world, and this
isolation creates perfect conditions for supernatural occurrences. The town that
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once housed one hundred and eighty seven residents in nineteen
fifty now stands completely abandoned. So it's a great place
to explore. And I'm I'm covering places that are open
to the public, by the way, in this book, so
you're not wasting your time, except, of course, that house
that I mentioned earlier that's owned by private property, the
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one that I used to live in, Okay, And I've
got to I've got to move along here because i
want to get to Haunted Roots sixty sixty six. All right,
So in Albuquerque, New Mexico, high Noon Saloon proves experience
don't always prefer empty buildings. Sometimes they enjoy the company
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of diners in the warmth of a busy restaurant. Their
haunting restaurant occupies one of the area's most historic structures,
and it was a gambling parlor and a brothel before
a housing before a Spanish furniture maker and his retail
shop was opened in the late nineteen sixties. Its final
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residential tenant was a Catholic nun who lived there before
the building's commercial rebirth. In nineteen seventy four, the high
Noon Restaurant and Saloon opened its doors there. So there's
a lady in a white dress. She appears without warning
in the Santos room, and it materializes for brief moments
before dissolving into nothing. Staff members have grown accustomed to
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these sudden appearances, though the site still startles newcomers. Patrons
occasionally glance up for their meals to catch a glimpse
of this ethereal figure gliding through the dining area. So
there's a paranormal activity going on there, definitely, And okay,
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let me move on here. This one. This is the
La Posada Hotel in Santa Fe, New Mexico. It's there's
a such was a successful merchant named Abraham Stob. He
returned to Germany to marry Julia Schuster and then brought
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his bride back to Santa Fe, where they built this
wonderful mansion. She became a prominent socialite, hosting lavish parties
while her husband served as the first president of the
Santa Fe Chamber of Commerce. But tragedy lurked. Julia endured
difficult pregnancies that took a severe toll on her mental
and physical health. Nothing worked, and she passed away in
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eighteen ninety six at age fifty two, with Abraham following
her in nineteen thirty thirteen. But what happened next proves
that some love stories refuse to end with death. Julia's
first document inciting occurred in nineteen seventy nine, when a
janitor spotted a woman in a black Victorian dress her
hair pulled back in a severe bun. Staff members have
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since reported countless similar encounters. Her apparition appear suddenly before
vanishing into thin air. Her supernatural activities sometimes seem demonic.
Gas fireplaces turn themselves on and off, chandlers sway without
any breeze. Items mysteriously disappeared One memorable evening a bartender
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watch glasses fly off shells and crashed to the floor
with no explanation, and visitors detect the distinct scent of roses,
Julia's favorite flower, wafting through the building. There's been a
lot of media coverage on that, So do check that
out if you wish. Oh it is. It's a beautiful place.
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And so now we're getting to Arizona. We have time,
and I'm scrolling down, scrolling down Flagstaffs Hotel monte Vista,
spirits that never checked out, and here's a picture of
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that downtown Flagstaffs. Flagstaffs Hotel monte Vista presents a fascinating
case study on how the supernatural can coexist with everyday hospitality.
The establishment has hosted everyone from Hollywood Royalty to weary
Root sixty six travelers and apparently some guests who decided
to extend their stays indefinitely. Hotel staff have documented the
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phantom bell boy of Room two ten for over seventy years,
making it of the most consistently reported hauntings along the
entire Moather Road. Guests in Room two ten describe an
identical pattern deliberate knocking followed by a muffled announcement of
room service despite never having placed an order. The hallway
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beyond their door remains empty with no evidence of staff present.
During his own encounter with the spectral attendant during a
nineteen fifties visit while filming in the area, John Wayne's
just says. Wayne's account carries particular weight, giving his reputation
for practical, known nonsense attitudes towards life and apparently after life.
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The bellboy typically manifests during early morning hours, suggesting he
continues following his schedule he maintained in life. Witnesses described
feeling an odd, distinct, cold presence moving through their rooms
immediately after the knocking stops. Some have glimpsed his shadow,
a figure that materializes briefly before dissolving completely. And then
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there is a rocking chair that moves on its own
in Room three oh five, a meatman of Room two twenty.
The entity gets its name from a bizarre incident during
the nineteen eighties, when a long term guest decorated his
room with raw meat hanging from the chandelier and walls,
and then his death occurred under mysterious circumstances. You can't
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make this stuff up.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Maybe a bear showed up.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Oh my goodness, maybe it was a ghost bear.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I don't know, with all that meat hanging around.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
I know Clark Gable and Carol Lombard stayed there. There's
the Red Garter Inn in Williams, which was a brothel
at the time that is very haunted. It's a Victoria
Victorian hotel. There's a ghost of Eva in a white
gown that appears unseen, hands that shake beds. Just a
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lot going on in Arizona. This is a pretty pretty
big chapter.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
It also sixty six Broute sixty six runs real close
to that big crater where that as meteor.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yes it does. It's right off the road. Yeah, right
off the road and far Winslow, Arizona.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
You got it, You got it. And then it's not
far from from Roswell either.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Right right. There's just a lot happening there. Yeah, okay,
So now we're going to get to California. The Mother
Road crosses into California at Needles, a desert railroad town
that experienced with boom both boom and abandonment cycles typical
of the American West. What makes Needles particularly compelling for
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paranormal investigators isn't just its frontier history. It's a concentration
of unexplained phenomena reported at two specific locations that seemed
connected by more than proximity. It gained prominence as a
railroad junction before coming the becoming the disappointing first glimpse
of California for thousands of dust bowl migrants. These travelers
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expected to promised land, but encountered scorching desert instead. The
most documented haunted location stands at five seventeen North ky Street,
the Historic green House. The finished building contained thirty two rooms,
four bathrooms, two kitchens, five bedrooms, and sixty seven windows
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across thirty six hundred square feet and unusually grand residents
for a desert railroad town. The Greenhouse operated as a
brothel between nineteen fourteen and nineteen forty seven, and then
it changed. They had underground tunnels. The documented phenomena at
the Greenhouse include piano music from the basement when no
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piano exists there, an infant crying with no identifiable source,
basement flooding despite no plumbing issues, apparitions of a man,
a woman, and a child, physical contact from unseen entities,
and unfortunately we are out of time, and I am
going to have to cover Root sixty sixty six on
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another show.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
So I tell you you know Needles real quick. The
last time I went through there, I think was in
twenty sixteen. The highest gas I ever paid eight It
was over eight dollars a gallon. And I remember, I'm
you know, just this little tip of California, there's this
little peace there that you know of Nevada. I mean
you cross over that and come into Needles, and then
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after that, Margie, I just remember it was a long
straight shot through just wide open, high desert. For the
longest time. The luck nothing out there. I was praying
that my truck didn't break down.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
You don't want to have something there.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
But you know that all of those locations that you
just mentioned are definitely places that anybody with an interest
in the paranormal would want to go. I'm I'm I'm
anxious to get this book, you know, on the on
the shelf in my living room, because our friends and
relatives come over, Margie, and they look at the unex
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magazines on the coffee table, and they go to the
bookshelf and look at those books and they wind up
hauling them off.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Oh You're going to have to cheat them down.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Ray, I have to. I have to try to write down,
just keep notes, you know, if who's got what books
and if they're coming back, you know what I mean.
Like some books I've read, you know, several times over
and it's good to pass those on. These are great books, uh,
you know, to to to really get into the spooky atmosphere,
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especially this time of year.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Right, Well, that's that's why we picked this time of
year to publish.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
I've been working on it for a few years, back
and forth, you know how I do. You know, I'll
start something and then go on to something else, and
then I'll get back to it later. But I'm finally
I'm glad to have it done. There's a lot of
information in there, and then including Route sixty sixty six,
which we'll have to cover on another program because that
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is a scary road. Thanks for joining me tonight, Race,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Thanks for having me. It's been fun hanging out with you, Margie.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
All right, well, we will see you here again next week.
We've got some good shows coming up in the near future, folks,
so stay tuned to the unex Network.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
Name
It's time for the unexed News News. Extraterrestrials, time anomalies,
dimension dimensions, remote viewing, UFOs, UAPs and USO's, ghostly encounters, abductions, Bigfoot,
and more more, your end of the week news source
(00:25):
for everything everything unexplained. Here is your host for the
unex News podcast, Margie Kay.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Good evening, everyone, Welcome to unex News. I'm your host,
Margie K. And today I have a co host with me,
none other than the producer of the UNX Network, Rate Hobbs.
Hi Race.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
How you doing, Margie. It's good to see you.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Good, good to see you. We talk a lot, but
we don't we don't do shows together a lot. So
this is a treat.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's been a while, it's been a monting.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And in fact, you know, we've got October thirty first
coming up, which will be the fourth anniversary of the
Annex Network. So we're playing in some good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
For that.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And it's going to be fun, so stay tuned for that.
I do want to mention a couple of things well tonight,
as you probably saw in the ads we sent out tonight,
we're going to be discussing I have take a haunted
road Trip on Route sixty six. And that is my
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new book. It's coming out on Monday, the twenty second.
Following this book, I'm going to be writing one called
take a UFO Trip on Root sixty six sow. So
this one is brand new. It's coming out on the
same day as another book. And I thought I'd just
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put that in here. Did not just put that in here? Here?
It is okay UFO attacks in Brazil. It's the true
story of the most terrifying events in the history of
ufology by theogo Luis Tocchetti. He will be on the
program on Tuesday with me on the mowf On Midwest program.
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This is an extraordinary book. We are publishing it on
the same day of books.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Brazil is loaded with cases, Margie that do have physical
electromagnetic trace. I mean they have an abundance of them.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
They do, and it is so strange that they have
so many in South America, you know, Brazil and other
places where people have been physically injured or actually died. Yes,
too close to a UFO, too close to an EG,
touching an EG. So this is one of those cases.
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People were physically.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Harmed and there were some mysterious deaths if I recall
in the Cholaris event, for example, where some of the
high level military officials that wound up coming forward later
had some mysterious deaths involved with them. I remember when
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back when I first, you know, when UFOs were just
a hobby of uap UFOs. The Cholaris case was one
of the first that really just rocked me because of
the fact that there were so many people in this
small environment that we're all having these same symptoms and
physical effects and wounds, so many witnesses and physicians that
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were there to catalog and scientifically record all of this
stuff because there was only like one or two on
the whole in the whole place, and physicians, and they
were astounded by, you know, what people were claiming. And
they started off with mass delusions and went from there
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until the physicians themselves were walking out of their clinic
one night and saw the phenomenon themselves. I mean, Brazil
really has it. They've got. If you're new to UFOs
and your interest in UFOs, or if you've been in
it for a long time, you know, and this this
individual knows their stuff. So I'm getting a copy of
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this book myself. I've got to get it signed.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, this is Theago is the director of moof on Brazil,
and I know he's there on this case, so uh yeah,
this is one to get. But we digress because we're
going to talk about our one hundred sixty six. However,
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I do have one more thing to talk about. First,
do check out our blog at unex network dot com
if you want to know what's going on in your
state this season, because Violet is doing a special blog.
She's putting a state up every day. It's called the
unex Network Halloween Season Spooky Guide, and she just got
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Louisiana up today, so she's down to the els. She
should have all of them up by mid October. And
she lists events and tours such as the Queen's Labyrinth,
Halloween mess Raid, a Court of Fire and Fate, the
Dark Woods, and other other events. And then there's of
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course a listing of real top ponded locations. Louisiana is
a big state for that, the Oak Alley Plantation, the
Lollori Mansion we know about, and many others. And then
she also lists family friendly events. So yeah, if you
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want something to do in your state, do check out
our blog at unex network dot com.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I love Louisiana, by the way. I love going down
there Myrtle Plantation and hem and bath.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It's just so have you been to the Myrtles?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh yeah, yeah. If I don't know, we're gonna talk
about it. I had my Myrtles Plantation coffee mug that
I got from there.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh my gosh. Well no, I didn't know we were either.
But what did you experience?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Twice? I've been there twice. My first experience I just
about had an accident, like pulling in the parking lot.
And then the second time I went was with my
former my former radio station I worked for. We went
up there to do just to walk through kind of
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investigation and just to go back through it and see it.
And it had changed so much. The barn outside kind
of stable building had burned down, and then they just
made a they rebuilt what was left of it and
made like a gift shop and like a tourist kind
of a little place where could go in and learn
all about it and get tourists stuff. And that's where
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I got my shirts and my coffee mugs and all.
I got my coffee with chickory in it, you know.
And all the stuff they've got there. It's really cool.
But Myrtles is a beautiful, a beautiful plantation and very
very rich history of being haunted it. I was so
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captured by the first time one of marchin when I
was pulling in. You go through this kind of s
curve through a guard shack, you come up, you're looking
at the home as you're going uphill to one side.
You turn and come back and there's that Spanish moss,
you know, that just sway through the trees, and it
almost hypnotizes you. You know, it's just knowing you're on
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the grounds of the Great Myrtle plantation alone gets you
kind of stirred up from everything you learned about it,
read about it, watch about it on TV, and then
you're there. I think I was just overwhelmed by But
I was pulling in the parking lot and I can
I remember there was that awning and everything on the
house where they have that photograph of those two kids
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that are on this little awning looking down on what
was one of the house slaves. The lady, I forget
her name now doesn't come to mind at the moment,
but she had lost an ear because she got caught
listening through the door of her boss or her master
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or whatever, and they cut her ear off to as punishment.
I forget her name, but she worked there for a
long long time, and those kids died. They were supposedly
she poisoned, tried to poison him for cutting off her ear,
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and she wound up killing the two kids. Poisoning the
two kids, and they supposedly have this image. I don't
even know if it's real or not, but man, I
remember seeing that image in my mind when I was
It was like I was driving right where they took
that picture, that old black and white picture, and I
was just so caught up in that that I just
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kept driving. And my wife and kids were yelling at
me to stop, stop, stop, and I wasn't listening to them.
I was just captured by something else mentally and m
but I was. It was like I was just numb
to it, and I was just focused on that house.
And by the time I stopped, half of the van
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was off of the parking lot, like I was about
to head down into the the little slope behind the house,
because the house is perched on a little hill inside woods,
and I was about to drive off down the backside
of it, and.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh, that wouldn't have been good.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
No, no, no, but you know, myrtles, it is well
worth the trip to Saint Francisville, Louisiana to see. And
then down the road there's another place. I think it's
called the Hymen Bow, huge mansion they rented out for
weddings and events, and I mean, and it's another one
that is really worth a stop to see.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Okay, but I've heard of that one. All right, Well,
we're gonna we're gonna get back to Rude sixty six.
Now there's a lot. There's a lot to it. When
I started digging into to write this book, I had
no idea what I was getting into. So basically, Route
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sixty six starts in Chicago, goes through Illinois, through Missouri, Oklahoma,
a little bit of the top of Texas. There's not
a whole lot there, but there are a few good
haunted sites. Then of course through New Mexico, Arizona, and California.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That's where that's where I've done time with Route sixty
six was when Robin and I lived in Albuquerque. Yeah,
oh yeah, and we I actually got on it and
drove on it and I was like, man, this would
have been you did you know if you were in
a corvette where you could actually go fast or a
faster car. I don't. I could see how people would
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have wrecks on those on that road because like they
didn't come through with dozers and like grade sections of
it smooth. It just goes over little hills. You know,
they're not very big at all. It's like, why didn't
they smooth this over? They just paved it right over
the little hills.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, it was before the highway systems.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So here I'm going to explain a little bit about
the birth of Rout sixty six and the early legends. Initially,
Route sixty six followed Illinois State four from Chicago to
East Saint Louis, though the section from Springfield south was
relocated in nineteen thirty to roughly the path of what
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is now Interstate fifty five, and I just lost my spot.
What travelers don't realize is that Route sixty six repurposed
ancient pathways. The route was a well traveled path long
before it became an official road. Before receiving its iconic designation,
people traveled between Chicago and Saint Louis on the Pontiac Trail,
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an unpaved stagecoach byway following Native American trails. As Americans
migrated westward, human traffic increased along this natural corridor. The
Tye Road Law of nineteen thirteen state assistance for roadside improvement,
setting the stage for what would become Route sixty six,
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and Illinois earned the distinction of being the first state
with its section completely paved. This early development made Illinois's
Route sixty six particularly significant and perhaps explains why so
many spirits seemed attached to this stretch. The flatness of
the Illinois portion made it a popular truck route, and
during World War Two, it's important surged as a critical
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path from military convoys. Interestingly, al Capone allegedly supported the
construction of this sleek new road. Subsequently, the notorious gangster
used Illinois's first fully paved highway to bootleg liquor doing
during Prohibition, driving a bulletproof V sixteen Cadillac painted to
blend in with Chicago police cars. Well, isn't that clever? Okay?
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So many towns that sprouted along Route sixty six harbored
individuals hell bent on doing dastardly deeds, as a result,
when people met unnatural ends, some believe they've had trouble
transitioning to the afterlife. This dark history, coupled with decades
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of travelers passing through, has created what paranormal investigators consider
a uniquely active spiritual quarridor through Illinois. Despite Route sixty
six being officially decommissioned in nineteen eighty five, the ghosts
of its heyday refused to disappear, making the Illinois stretch
of the Mother Road as famous for its spectral residents
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as for its historical significance. And so what I'm going
to do. I'm going to talk about one place in
each in each state as Route sixty six goes through.
And of course the most popular in Illinois is the
Congress Plaza Hotel in Chicago. Standing majestically at the beginning
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of Route sixty six. The Congress Plaza Hotel has earned
its reputation as a most haunted hotel in Illinois since
opening its stores in eighteen ninety three for the World's
Columbian Exposition. This historic glenmark has accumulated ghost stories as
steadily as it has welcomed guests. Al Capones, the notorious
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gangster Al Capone features prominently in the hotel's supernatural lore.
While many believed he maintained headquarters on the eighth floor
of the North Tower, historical records dispute this claim. If
anywhere is haunted in Chicago, it's the Congress Hotel. Notes
paranormal expert Tony Sibelski guest report encountering a heavy set
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man in an old fashioned suit roaming the corridors at night.
The distinctive sound of his two tone wingtip shoes clicking
down hallways alerts visitors to his presence. Although Capone never
likely checked in under his own name, his associates certainly
conducted business on the premises. Among the hotel's most peculiar
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phenomenon is the Hand of Mystery. What appears to be
a human hand reaching out from behind a wall near
the Gold Room's balcony, originally believed to belong to a
construction worker accidentally in two during building investigations reveal its
likely just odd shaped calk that resembles finger and a thumb. Meanwhile,
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peg leg Johnny remains one of the most frequently spotted apparitions.
This one legged vagrant reportedly met his demise in the
alley behind the hotel. Staff and guests encounter him throughout
the building in hallways, guest rooms, the lobby, and dining areas.
His mischievous spirit enjoys manipulating electronics and light switches peg
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leg Johnny, Oh, my gosh, that sounds like a troublemaker there.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I love that name. That's sharp.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So Room four forty one if you want to stay there,
you might want to check this out, but only if
you have a strong stomach. It holds a distinction of
generating more security calls than any other room in the hotel.
Guest reports seeing a shadowy female figure who kicks them awake,
tugs at blankets, and moves objects without being touched. The
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paranormal activity has become so notorious that past visitors have
fled their rooms in panic. So that's Room four four
to one. The hotel's ballrooms harbored their own mysteries. Security
guards report hearing phantom piano notes playing in the Florentine room,
despite no one being present in the same space. Wedding
parties occasionally discover that bridesmaids posing for photographs mysteriously don't
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appear in the developed pictures. Whoa from Captain Lewis as time,
nicknamed the shadow Man, who committed suicide in nineteen hundred
to the ghost of six year old Carol Langer on
the twelfth floor. The Congress Plaza hotel continues welcoming both
living guests and those who seemingly never checked out. That
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is an interesting one. Now, let me get down to
the next state in order, which is Missouri.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And I sixty six passes rut between you and me
just about perfectly. I was looking at your map, yes, yeah,
and you're in Kansas City and I'm down here like
in Fort Smith, and it's like right between us.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It is, so yeah, I'm gonna mention one other because
I've been there, and I was there recently with my husband.
It's called the Ruble Hotel and it's in Grafton, Illinois,
where the Haunted America Conference is held every year, and
so I decided to stay there because it's disposedly very haunted.
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It's at two seventeen East Male Street in Grafton. The
hotel was built in eighteen seventy nine and it shows it.
I mean, it's original. All the woodwork and everything is
really cool. It opened in eighteen eighty four. By Michael Ruble.
It boasted a saloon as well, which is still there.
It burned down in nineteen twelve but was quickly rebuilt
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with an additional restaurant on the first floor in a
dance hall on the second floor. In ninety seven, new
owners purchased a property and reopened it. The hotel has
a unique historic look to it, with many details. It's
fascinating to look at, but the ghosts make it extra special.
When we arrived and checked in our room, I heard
banging on the outside wall. When I opened the door
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to see what the cause was, there was no one there,
as if someone was just banging with their hand or
something heavy. It occurred the next day well, so I
asked the staff what they knew, and they had not
heard of that happening before. They did say that most
of the activity occurs in the kitchen, with pots, pans,
and dishes often moving or being thrown across the rooms
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and doors opening and closing on their own. However, there
is another spirit that lingers, and it is a little
girl named Abigail. Abigail has been seen in the upstairs
hallway and on the stairs by many patrons. She either
died of tuberculosis, or in the nineteen twelve fire, the
child may be responsible for her footsteps heard late at night,
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items vanaging and unexplained orbs witnessed by patrons and paranormal investigators.
I spoke with a past guest who said that her
aunt was tripped by an unseen leg and fell at
the top of the stairs. They believe it was a
mischievous ghost child who did the deed. Oh boy, Yeah,
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So I heard really good things about that hotel and
how the ghosts were all really nice. But then I
heard from a couple of other people that they had
bad experiences there. So just be careful around the stairs,
especially because that's how you get up to the second floor.
That's at the old old staircase. All right. So now Missouri,
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now it comes. Historic Route sixty six winds through Missouri.
With more than just scenic views and nostalgic roadside attractions,
it harbors some of America's most chilling paranormal hotspots. The
iconic highway, established in nineteen twenty six, has become legendary
not only for its historic significance, but also for its
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ghostly residence. Surprisingly, Missouri's stretch of this famous road contains
an unusual concentration of haunted locations, from the tragic spirits
of Limp Mansion to the mysterious apparitions at Devil's Elbow.
Countless travelers have reported unexplainings throughout the years. These eerie
sites along Route sixty six continue to attract both skeptics
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and believers seeking to experience the supernatural. So a lot
of people have heard of the Limp Mansion in Saint Louis,
So I'm just going to go over over this very briefly.
The Limp family Saga Bean when joe ann Adam Limp immigrated.
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Johann Adam Limp immigrated from Germany to Saint Louis in
eighteen thirty eight. Initially he opened a grocery store, and
they soon focused exclusively on brewing beer like a lot
of other people did in Saint Louis. Made I've got
a lot of money at it, and he established the
Western Brewery Company by eighteen forty. Then his son, William J.
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Limp Senior led the company at flourished, eventually becoming one
of the top twenty brewing companies in the world and
top ten in the country. The family's tremendous sixess, however,
gave wayh sorry lostitch by page. I switched by page
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too fast? Okay, it gave way to a series of tragedies. Frederick,
William Senior's favorite son and heir apparent, died mysteriously in
nineteen oh one at just twenty eight years old. Devastated
by this loss, William Senior became increasingly depressed and eventually
shot himself in nineteen oh four. His widow, Julia, died
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of cancer two years later in the same bedroom. The curse,
which is now known as seemed to follow subsequent generations.
William Junior took over the business, but struggled with alcoholism
and personal problems. When prohibition arrived in nineteen twenty, the
brewery suffered tremendously. That same year, William's sister Elsa shot
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herself just days after remarrying. Two years later, William Junior
also died by suicide in his office at the mansion.
Charles Limp became the final family member to live in
the house, eventually taking his own life in nineteen forty
nine after leaving a note that read, in case I'm
found dead, blaming it on no one but me. Now
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I had visited the limp. I investigated it along with
Debbie Ziegelmeyer several years ago, and immediately upon entering they
have a restaurant at a lower level, so we had lunch,
and immediately upon entering that house, I felt a heaviness,
just like the air was super thick, so I knew
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something was truly going on. So common paranormal experiences include
glasses flying off the bar as it's as if struck
by an invisible hand, phantom knockings, footsteps, and disembodied voices,
full body apparitions resembling family members, particularly William Senior, who
was also observed by myself during an investigation in the basement.
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So I am, Debbie and I are both in the basement,
were the only people there, and there's a hallway that
goes down to a little bar area this kind of offset,
and then behind the bar you see an arch, but
it's all bricked in. So I turned around and I
saw a man, an older gentleman wearing a suit, come
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walking forward, turn left into that little bar area and
then walk straight through the brick underneath the arch. So
I asked there was a man behind the bar at
the time, and he was getting ready for some event
that night, and I said, by any chance, is there
a gentleman? And I described what you looked like and
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he goes, oh, yeah, that was William Senior. And they
had tunnels underground from their house to the brewery, so
he wanted to avoid the public and he would walk
through the tunnel and that was the interest to the
tunnel where he just walked into.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Oh my goodness, and.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
It was, I mean, full body apparition.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
What'd you say to this place?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Was Margie the Lamp Mansion in St. Mansion in Saint Louis,
And it's beautiful. I mean, it's a red brick structure.
It's just stunning.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
See I get. That's what I get stuck in, just
like with like the Crescent over in your experience. I
get really because I come with a construction background, you
know what I mean, And just like your husband, you know,
being a master mason and he has to look at
brickwork and rock work and foundation work and things. You
just get caught up in all of that. And these
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older places that were just I mean, these people were
like artisans in some cases, master craftsman that built it
stuff by hand, and you just have to stop and
take appreciation of that alone, and then all of this happens,
you know. So it's it's.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Like kind of get you kind of get two for
one if you like history and you like buildings like
I do. I mean, I'm always looking at every detail.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
And then and then of course haunted. That's that's great.
People also experienced the overwhelming scent of lavender perfume associated
with the lavender Lady Lilian Handlin Limp also experienced by
the by myself during the investigation. We uh, were in
her bedroom and Debbie and I both had the smell
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of lavender perfume very strong. Contractors abandoned renovation projects after
tools mysteriously disappeared. Sudden drops in temperature in the bedroom
formerly occupied by Lilian Limp. We experienced that too, uh,
and I had a digital thermometer with me that you
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aim at things to get the temperature, and we just
stood there in this cold spot and just watched the
temperature go down, down, down, down ten degrees in no time.
So that was very interesting. Furthermore, visitors have reported feeling watched,
hearing strange moaning sounds, and capturing unexplained faces and photographs. Fortunately,
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I didn't get that. The mansion staff has also documented
numerous accounts from overnight guests who experienced paranormal activity, particularly
in the rooms where family members died. Paranormal groups and
individual ghost hunters are likely to experience one or more
events that leave them satisfy that the location is seriously haunted.
And I have spoken to several paranormal investigators and they
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say every time they get something, something will happen. That's
pretty guaranteed. So they do do tours at the mansion.
So if you check on the internet with them, if
you want to take a tour, you can schedule that
you can have lunch or dinner there.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Margie, that family had something I've just down. I looked
it up and that I was thinking they had something
to do with like beer, and it I'm reading here
now that they built the first they built the first
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Logger beer brewery. Yeah, that is that's all, you know,
being German immigrants. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, but all of those tragic things that happened to them.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So many suicides in their family there.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
There there was I feel like there was something else
going on there that's very dark, and that energy is
still there that may have been there before they even
built that house.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Right where they built it was on a place that
was active already.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
On something that actually made them commit suicide, made them depressed.
Who knows that sort of thing happens people.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
And I'm telling you right now there there are places
on Earth where the energy just can unravel a human brain. Yeah,
just unravel it. The m triangle comes in Russia comes
to mind. People go in this place and they come
out just completely different, scrambled. Some people come out with
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bad effects that last a lifetime. Some people don't come
out at all. There's places in Japan, a place in
Japan where people go to commit suicide in these woods,
in this forest. I mean, there are just places on
Earth that you can't explain the energy that is downturned there.
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But you know, you're surrounded by some of the most
beautiful landscape on top of the earth. But I think
what's under it is the ant where the answer is.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well, there are positive places in their negative places, And
there's something called a vile vortex, which spins in an
anti clockwise direction. And when if you run into a
vile vortex at anything is possible. So it's usually dark, Okay,
I want to hit We're going to run out of time.
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I want to hit Pithian Castle real quick in Springfield, Missouri.
And that's my photo. It started in nineteen oh nine
when Springfield vied against seven other cities to become the
location for the Pythian Home, a retirement facility built by
the Knights of pitheis paternal organization for their members and families,
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and it's a huge structure. It served as a gathering
place until nineteen forty two, when the US military took
control to utilize it alongside a neighboring hospital treating injured
American soldiers. Additionally, German and Italian POWs were housed in
the castle during World War Two for medicalture care, and
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work duties. A number of these prisoners were detained in
the separate utility building and warshroom facility behind the main structure.
Following the war's conclusion, the building remained under federal ownership
until nineteen ninety three sail to a private buyer. Now,
I want to make sure everybody understands the military is
still there on another structure. They only carved out a
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piece big enough for the castle to be privately owned,
and there's no big parking lot. It's a small parking lot,
so only a few people can actually go there at
the same time. It's very strange, and why the military
is still there. They don't know, they told me. In
twenty eleven, the television program Ghost Lab investigated the property,
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validating claims of supernatural activity from former occupants. In twenty seventeen,
Ghost Adventures visited and they investigated. They do weekly ghost
tours every Tuesday and Friday. And I'm going to tell
you that that place is located only a couple of
blocks from the most haunted house I have ever investigated
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or ever lived in. I lived in it in the
when I was in my teens in the seventies. And
here is a picture of that haunted house. It was
a big, three thousand square foot home and it's you've
heard me talk about it before and probably will again.
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But I did include that in the book as well.
And then also across the street is Drury College campus
and it is also very haunted. And there's also the
fact that a Civil War battle was fought at the
site of all three of these locations, so it doesn't
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surprise me that they're haunted. And yeah, there's it's just
very very very strange stuff going on there. Okay, now
we're going to be moving to of course, you know
the Joplin Hornet Spooklight is a big place too in Joplin,
and that is a show for by itself, which will
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be coming soon. So Gansas is the next place. And
let me get down here to ah Stole Cemetery the
Gateway to Hell supposed to be. So a few years
ago a friend of mine, Daniel Lowing, he knew I
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was taking a trip and he says, oh, You've got
to stop by Stole Cemetery to see if it's the
gateway to Hell, because I'd never been there, and I
didn't investigate, And so I did, and it's so I arrived,
and I would disappointed when I found that the graveyard
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was fenced in with a locked gate, and the driveway
was just big enough for one car to park in
front of the gate, so that's where I parked. There
were signs do not enter our private property, so it's
not like a regular graveyard where you know, I don't
even know how people get in there to visit their
families or their loved ones. But I stayed for quite
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a while. I didn't see anyone else around. There were
hardly any cars on this road and the town is
extremely small. So across the street was a fire station
that looked active, but there was no one there at
the time. So I stood next to the gate. I
took a few photos, and I scanned the area remote
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viewing it. Then I was immediately drawn to one area
to my right and at the top of the hill,
next to a grove of trees, and there I sensed
a very dark energy that was building up in intensity.
I also saw a small shack in my mind eye,
but not with the naked eye. The dark energy seemed
to notice me and began to slowly move down the
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hill and in my direction. Now I've had that happen before.
I do not like that feeling at all, and that's
when I decided it would be best not to confront
whatever it was and leave the area. As I left,
the energy seemed to stop at the gate. And then
in doing research on the internet, I found that legends
about the cemetery have circulated for more than one hundred years.
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The University of Kansas newspaper posted an article in nineteen
seventy four about the many strange occurrences at this site,
including a legend that the Devil himself appears in person
twice each year, once at the spring equinox and again
on you guessed it, Halloween night, according to the article
which is met here on a regular basis, and people
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have had ghostly encounters as well. One person said they
were grabbed on the arm by an unseen hand while
walking among the graves. The residents, however, of Stull, that
they've never experienced anything strange, and they are annoyed that
people come looking for trouble, so they erected the lock
gate to keep people out. Now. I found out later
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the area where I felt that dark energy coming up
from the ground was the original site of a small
chapel that was supposedly haunted and also where witches met.
And that was true, that there was something there, and
there were people having meetings there privately that weren't supposed to.
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So Okay, and there, of course, there are other places
in Kansas, But I want to move on. I'm just
taking a few excerpts from the book so that you
can get an idea of what I cover here. So
Oklahoma is next, and let me get to one of
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the sites There are some real ghost towns that are
frozen in time, and this one. This is the Magnolia
Service Station in Texola, Oklahoma. Stretch of the Mother Road
is dotted with communities that time has nearly erased, places
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where abandoned buildings and empty streets tell stories of prosperity
turned to dust. These ghost towns offer some of the
most haunted places in Oklahoma, where visitors report unexplained phenomena
amid the decaying remnants of once thriving communities. Here we go,
this is the one. This is the Magnolia Service Station.
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So Texola is considered to be a living ghost town.
It had a peak population of five eighty one and
nineteen thirty and now it has maybe thirty six people.
The town's peculiar history adds to its supernatural atmosphere. Due
to its location the one hundredth meridian, Texola was serving
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ad eight different times, meeting Some early residents technically lived
in both Texas and Oklahoma without ever moving homes. This
geographic uncertainty seems to have manifested in a spectral uncertainty,
with visitors reporting strained sensations of displacement. Now, the along
Route sixty six. I want you to realize that there's
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a lot more going on than just ghosts. People have
had had unexplained things happened, like driving down the road
and then all of a sudden they're back where they started,
and they're taking the same route again, seeing the same
signs on the road, or jumping from one place to another,
driving along and then all of a sudden they're a
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couple hundred miles down the road and they thought it
was only one minute in time that that app passed by,
and other things which we will get to. So these
The Scurvan Hotel in Oklahoma City was built in nineteen eleven.
This fourteen story Art Deco landmark stands is Oklahoma City's
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oldest hotel and unquestionably its most haunted. Hey, race your back,
I made it back. Ye you disappeared for a minute. Okay,
So this Scurvan Hotel says male guests received particular attention
from Effie, a reported ghost there. NBA players have blamed
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poor game performance on supernatural disturbances at the servant. In
twenty ten, Nick Center ed Curry, despite outweighing his teammate
by over one hundred pounds, fled to Nate Robinson's Room
for Protection. Lakers Forward met as Standford our test reported
an amorous ghost assault in twenty sixteen, while the Chicago
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Bulls documented bizarre noises and self slamming doors. Wow, okay,
Scirven Hotel, Oklahoma City, if you want to have a
weird experience there, guys, go check that out.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
All right.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
So we're going to move on now to the next state.
And I am going to find that. And we have
a few comments. Is there anything worth putting up? Their race?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Already put them up earlier when you were Oh.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay, it just didn't look look good to me. Okay,
here is one is called the nant Ballroom, and oh
I thought I put it up. No, okay, it's called
the Nanatorium. In Amarillo, it's called the nat also, according
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to local lore. Home to several spectral residents, this historic district,
now recognized on the National Register of Historic Places, has
been thoughtfully renovated into a charming antique coarter featuring unique
collectible shops, boutig stores, and inviting sidewalk cafes. The term
Natatorium historically referred to an indoor swimming facility, which was
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precisely this building's original purpose when it first opened its
stores in July of nineteen twenty two, but in nineteen
twenty six it was changed into an elegant dance hall
and called the Gnat Ballroom. During the Big Band area,
the Gnat boasted one of the Southwest premier dance floors,
including legendary performers such as Tommy Dorsey, Louis Armstrong, Betting Goodman, etc.
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In recent years, after its transformation into an antique mall,
owners and visitors have reported mysterious occurrences, including cold spots
in the former Upstills Stairs gambling Hall, Strange noises have
been heard in empty rooms, and furniture has been found
mysteriously rearranged overnight. Psychic claims to have encountered a female
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spirit in a white dress burying a red stain on
the bodice. According to local legend, this apparition is of
a woman who spent considerable time in the gambling hall
and once had red wines built on her dress during
an evening of merriment. Apparently, she enjoyed herself so thoroughly
that she decided to make the Nat her eternal home.
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And there's there's more people here. Orchestras playing you know,
ghostly music, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Well, imagine having an entire room worth of furniture being
rearranged on CCTV. If you could just watch that on video,
just watch that would the day they capture that is
when I'm you know, I'll avoid haunted places already, do
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as much as possible, But that would be I've seen
so many crazy things. You don't know what's real, what's
not real. But to actually see an authentic video of
something like that, I would lose it, Margie.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
You know me, I do, but I've seen so many
things that I'm now I'm pretty immune. I will just
stand there and look at it and watch it.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
It's the fact that they can move physical objects, you know.
It's like, that's what gets me. Like, if you could
move a chair or a couch from across the veil,
what's to stop you from picking up some scissors and
coming after you with them? Kitchen up? You know, some
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of those old haunted like stories that we grew up
with just take on a whole new meeting.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, when when spirits can do things like move objects,
it's impressive. But when they can move an entire room
of objects, all the chairs, the tables, everything that's that's
just crazy. That's a lot of power, that's a lot
of energy.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Is it a group effort like they.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Help you know, or oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
There's one spirit doing it. Now it would be something
to see, you know what I mean, like to walk
in and know no one else has been there. Uh,
you know, book stacking, the chairs. It's it's been documented
for decades, this kind of stuff, and it just baffles people.
(45:51):
I mean in this day and age, really it can go.
People can go after it, you know, for content. It's
you know, not necessarily there's a lot of hucksters out there,
But back then it was really something that it was
a reputation you didn't want to have. People didn't want
to go stay and haunted locations, you know. Back then,
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back in the.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Day, No, no they didn't. And if they got a
bad reputation, they wouldn't. People wouldn't go not right out
of business.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Right. It was exactly the opposite of today, like most things. Right.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Okay, So now we've come to Glen Rio and the
town of nd that have become prime territory for those
seeking Root sixty six hauntings. Travel guides recommend the area
for photography, noting great photo opportunities abound in the Glenrio
and in the area. Be sure to check out the
remains of an old Rock Island trussel west of town
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on your way to Bard, New Mexico. What these guys
don't mention is how many photographs capture unexplainable phenomena light orbs,
shout do we figures, and other anomalies that defy rational explanation.
Nd has been quite forgotten by the world, and this
isolation creates perfect conditions for supernatural occurrences. The town that
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once housed one hundred and eighty seven residents in nineteen
fifty now stands completely abandoned. So it's a great place
to explore. And I'm I'm covering places that are open
to the public, by the way, in this book, so
you're not wasting your time, except, of course, that house
that I mentioned earlier that's owned by private property, the
(47:36):
one that I used to live in, Okay, And I've
got to I've got to move along here because i
want to get to Haunted Roots sixty sixty six. All right,
So in Albuquerque, New Mexico, high Noon Saloon proves experience
don't always prefer empty buildings. Sometimes they enjoy the company
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of diners in the warmth of a busy restaurant. Their
haunting restaurant occupies one of the area's most historic structures,
and it was a gambling parlor and a brothel before
a housing before a Spanish furniture maker and his retail
shop was opened in the late nineteen sixties. Its final
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residential tenant was a Catholic nun who lived there before
the building's commercial rebirth. In nineteen seventy four, the high
Noon Restaurant and Saloon opened its doors there. So there's
a lady in a white dress. She appears without warning
in the Santos room, and it materializes for brief moments
before dissolving into nothing. Staff members have grown accustomed to
(48:44):
these sudden appearances, though the site still startles newcomers. Patrons
occasionally glance up for their meals to catch a glimpse
of this ethereal figure gliding through the dining area. So
there's a paranormal activity going on there, definitely, And okay,
(49:06):
let me move on here. This one. This is the
La Posada Hotel in Santa Fe, New Mexico. It's there's
a such was a successful merchant named Abraham Stob. He
returned to Germany to marry Julia Schuster and then brought
(49:30):
his bride back to Santa Fe, where they built this
wonderful mansion. She became a prominent socialite, hosting lavish parties
while her husband served as the first president of the
Santa Fe Chamber of Commerce. But tragedy lurked. Julia endured
difficult pregnancies that took a severe toll on her mental
and physical health. Nothing worked, and she passed away in
(49:54):
eighteen ninety six at age fifty two, with Abraham following
her in nineteen thirty thirteen. But what happened next proves
that some love stories refuse to end with death. Julia's
first document inciting occurred in nineteen seventy nine, when a
janitor spotted a woman in a black Victorian dress her
hair pulled back in a severe bun. Staff members have
(50:17):
since reported countless similar encounters. Her apparition appear suddenly before
vanishing into thin air. Her supernatural activities sometimes seem demonic.
Gas fireplaces turn themselves on and off, chandlers sway without
any breeze. Items mysteriously disappeared One memorable evening a bartender
(50:40):
watch glasses fly off shells and crashed to the floor
with no explanation, and visitors detect the distinct scent of roses,
Julia's favorite flower, wafting through the building. There's been a
lot of media coverage on that, So do check that
out if you wish. Oh it is. It's a beautiful place.
(51:06):
And so now we're getting to Arizona. We have time,
and I'm scrolling down, scrolling down Flagstaffs Hotel monte Vista,
spirits that never checked out, and here's a picture of
(51:28):
that downtown Flagstaffs. Flagstaffs Hotel monte Vista presents a fascinating
case study on how the supernatural can coexist with everyday hospitality.
The establishment has hosted everyone from Hollywood Royalty to weary
Root sixty six travelers and apparently some guests who decided
to extend their stays indefinitely. Hotel staff have documented the
(51:54):
phantom bell boy of Room two ten for over seventy years,
making it of the most consistently reported hauntings along the
entire Moather Road. Guests in Room two ten describe an
identical pattern deliberate knocking followed by a muffled announcement of
room service despite never having placed an order. The hallway
(52:15):
beyond their door remains empty with no evidence of staff present.
During his own encounter with the spectral attendant during a
nineteen fifties visit while filming in the area, John Wayne's
just says. Wayne's account carries particular weight, giving his reputation
for practical, known nonsense attitudes towards life and apparently after life.
(52:39):
The bellboy typically manifests during early morning hours, suggesting he
continues following his schedule he maintained in life. Witnesses described
feeling an odd, distinct, cold presence moving through their rooms
immediately after the knocking stops. Some have glimpsed his shadow,
a figure that materializes briefly before dissolving completely. And then
(53:01):
there is a rocking chair that moves on its own
in Room three oh five, a meatman of Room two twenty.
The entity gets its name from a bizarre incident during
the nineteen eighties, when a long term guest decorated his
room with raw meat hanging from the chandelier and walls,
and then his death occurred under mysterious circumstances. You can't
(53:25):
make this stuff up.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Maybe a bear showed up.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Oh my goodness, maybe it was a ghost bear.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
I don't know, with all that meat hanging around.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
I know Clark Gable and Carol Lombard stayed there. There's
the Red Garter Inn in Williams, which was a brothel
at the time that is very haunted. It's a Victoria
Victorian hotel. There's a ghost of Eva in a white
gown that appears unseen, hands that shake beds. Just a
(54:04):
lot going on in Arizona. This is a pretty pretty
big chapter.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
It also sixty six Broute sixty six runs real close
to that big crater where that as meteor.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yes it does. It's right off the road. Yeah, right
off the road and far Winslow, Arizona.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
You got it, You got it. And then it's not
far from from Roswell either.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Right right. There's just a lot happening there. Yeah, okay,
So now we're going to get to California. The Mother
Road crosses into California at Needles, a desert railroad town
that experienced with boom both boom and abandonment cycles typical
of the American West. What makes Needles particularly compelling for
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paranormal investigators isn't just its frontier history. It's a concentration
of unexplained phenomena reported at two specific locations that seemed
connected by more than proximity. It gained prominence as a
railroad junction before coming the becoming the disappointing first glimpse
of California for thousands of dust bowl migrants. These travelers
(55:14):
expected to promised land, but encountered scorching desert instead. The
most documented haunted location stands at five seventeen North ky Street,
the Historic green House. The finished building contained thirty two rooms,
four bathrooms, two kitchens, five bedrooms, and sixty seven windows
(55:35):
across thirty six hundred square feet and unusually grand residents
for a desert railroad town. The Greenhouse operated as a
brothel between nineteen fourteen and nineteen forty seven, and then
it changed. They had underground tunnels. The documented phenomena at
the Greenhouse include piano music from the basement when no
(55:57):
piano exists there, an infant crying with no identifiable source,
basement flooding despite no plumbing issues, apparitions of a man,
a woman, and a child, physical contact from unseen entities,
and unfortunately we are out of time, and I am
going to have to cover Root sixty sixty six on
(56:19):
another show.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
So I tell you you know Needles real quick. The
last time I went through there, I think was in
twenty sixteen. The highest gas I ever paid eight It
was over eight dollars a gallon. And I remember, I'm
you know, just this little tip of California, there's this
little peace there that you know of Nevada. I mean
you cross over that and come into Needles, and then
(56:44):
after that, Margie, I just remember it was a long
straight shot through just wide open, high desert. For the
longest time. The luck nothing out there. I was praying
that my truck didn't break down.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
You don't want to have something there.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
But you know that all of those locations that you
just mentioned are definitely places that anybody with an interest
in the paranormal would want to go. I'm I'm I'm
anxious to get this book, you know, on the on
the shelf in my living room, because our friends and
relatives come over, Margie, and they look at the unex
(57:26):
magazines on the coffee table, and they go to the
bookshelf and look at those books and they wind up
hauling them off.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Oh You're going to have to cheat them down.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Ray, I have to. I have to try to write down,
just keep notes, you know, if who's got what books
and if they're coming back, you know what I mean.
Like some books I've read, you know, several times over
and it's good to pass those on. These are great books, uh,
you know, to to to really get into the spooky atmosphere,
(58:01):
especially this time of year.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Right, Well, that's that's why we picked this time of
year to publish.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
I've been working on it for a few years, back
and forth, you know how I do. You know, I'll
start something and then go on to something else, and
then I'll get back to it later. But I'm finally
I'm glad to have it done. There's a lot of
information in there, and then including Route sixty sixty six,
which we'll have to cover on another program because that
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is a scary road. Thanks for joining me tonight, Race,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Thanks for having me. It's been fun hanging out with you, Margie.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
All right, well, we will see you here again next week.
We've got some good shows coming up in the near future, folks,
so stay tuned to the unex Network.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
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