August 25, 2025 • 56 mins
Margie Kay had an incredible event occur, which drew her attention to The Vril. Tyler has conducted extensive research on the subject, and we discuss who they are and whether they pose a threat to humanity. Tyler talks about a diary of the German scientist who was working with the Vril Damen to build the first German flying saucer, which eventually became the building blocks for the SSP, and how the author was killed. The book is an incredibly detailed account of the true story behind the German flying saucer program. Some have predicted that the Vril will attempt to take over the world. Could that be true? Tyler Kiwala is an ET experiencer, independent researcher and passionate disclosure activist. Most popularly known in the awakening community for the Journey To Truth Podcast, hosted by himself and fellow disclosure activist Aaron Kuhn. Together, they have created a platform for discussing any "controversial" and eye-opening topics without limitations in an effort to spread awareness to the masses. Tyler's journey began with a levitation experience shortly after his mother's passing in 2011 that ended with intense paralysis and a visitation from "shadow people". This would lead to experiences with Inner Earth beings, Sasquatch, Greys, Reptilians, and recruitment attempts into covert military programs. Tyler is currently in the process of retrieving suppressed memories that he believes are related to his involvement with agencies within the shadow government.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's time for the Unexed News News extraterrestrials, time anomalies, dementia, dimensions,
remote viewing, UFOs, UAPs and USO's, ghostly encounters, abductions, Bigfoot,
and more more, your end of the week news source
(00:25):
for everything everything unexplained. Here is your host for the
unex News Podcast, Margie K.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hello, and welcome to the unex News Podcast. I'm Margie K.
And this evening, we have a little bit of an
unusual show for you, but stick with me because I
think you're going to find it very interesting. So I
do want to mention one of our latest books that
ONEX Media published is All Monsters Are Human by Derek Smith,
and this is an unsettling collection of horror stories. So
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if you're into that sort of thing, this is it.
And since we're coming up on Halloween, I think that
that's pretty appropriate. And another item we've got just for
fun is a paranormal coloring book for adults. I use
these in meditation training in my remote viewing workshops, so
there you go. That's number four in the series of
(01:32):
our coloring books. So tonight we're going to be talking
about the vrill and this is something I didn't know
anything about until a couple of weeks ago, and something
very strange happened to me. I was asleep and dreaming,
and my husband said it was about three and o'clock
in the morning. I dreamt that I was speaking in
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my sleep, which I have occasionally done, not very often,
but sometimes, and the first time it occurred. So I'm
gonna back up to twenty twelve. Okay, this is when
the first time occurred that my husband witnessed it. My
husband told me in the morning after we both woke up,
(02:17):
that in the middle of the night, I was speaking
in another person's voice, not my own, and he did
not understand what I was saying, and he tried to
just gently wake me up, and he said, I said,
(02:38):
Margie's not here right now, She'll be back later, and
that scared the me Jesus out of him, and he
didn't say anything else. And then he waited until I
fell asleep and wasn't talking anymore, and then told me
about it in the morning. So fast forward two weeks ago.
(02:58):
I dreamt that I was speaking in my sleep in
an unknown language, and then when I woke up, my
husband said to me, you were talking in your sleep
again last night, and it was an unknown language. It
didn't sound human. And then when I woke up in
the morning for real, the first thing my husband really
(03:22):
said to me was this exact same thing you were
talking in your sleep last night, and it sounded like
a non human language, sounded alien. I did not recognize it,
but it was a language. And I just said to him, well,
you know what did it sound like? He says, I
can't describe it. And then all of a sudden, a
(03:44):
man's voice said to me, and I heard it in
my head. I think it was there one word real,
that was it. I've never heard that word before. I
did not know what it meant. And I and so
I got online. I looked at Wikipedia to get some
answers and then ordered a couple of books. I have
(04:07):
not read them yet. But then I was in conversation
with Tyler Kowala recently, and so Tyler has some knowledge
of this, and he's going to share with us tonight.
Tyler Kowala is an independent. He is an et experiencer,
independent researcher, and passionate disclosure activist, most popularly known in
(04:31):
the Awakening community for Journey to Truth podcast hosted by
himself and fellow disclosure activist Aaron Khon. Together, they have
created a platform for discussing any and all controversial and
eye opening topics without limitations, in an effort to spread
awareness to the masses. Tyler's journey began with a levitation
experience shortly after his mother's passing in twenty eleven that
(04:55):
ended with intense paralysis and visitation from shadow people. This
would lead to experiences with inner Earth beings sasquatch, grays, reptilians,
and recruitment attempts into covert military programs. Tyler is currently
in the process of retrieving suppressed memories from what he
believes are from his involvement with agencies within the shadow government.
(05:19):
Welcome to the program, Tyler.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Hey, thank you for the wonderful intro, and I'm happy
to be back on the show and I'm super excited
about tonight's topic. I'm very passionate about it, so thanks
for having me.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well. I was surprised to hear that you knew about
what this was, what real meant, and I'm just really
excited to hear your take on it and what the
history of that may be. I did grab the two
photos that you sent me, but also this old old
book from eighteen seventy one, The Coming Race, Yes Race Zeril.
(05:58):
The Power of the Coming Race, originally published as The
Coming Race, is a novel by Edward Boulward Lytton, published
anonymously in eighteen seventy one. Some readers that believe the
account of a superior step guranean master race and the
energy form called real at least in part. Some theosophists,
notably Helena Lavatsky, William Scott, Elliott, and Rudolf Steiner, accepted
(06:23):
the book as based on occult truth in part. Wow,
that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah, well go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So what is what is your take on all of this?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So that book in particular, a lot of people believe
it talks about the rill is like you can compare
it to like the force in Star Wars. It's just
a free energy source that anyone can tap into. But
it can also be harnessed and used to power time machines, UFOs,
you name it, any of that stuff, any free energy
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devices that we would have.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
It just it's like we're with the ether.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But there's this whole narrative that there's a sun within
the hollow Earth that is powered by this vile energy
and it can be harnessed. And I think that's what
the Coming Race talks about. A lot of people, you know,
we hear about the Black Sun from the real domin
and the like the fuel and the Nazi society and stuff.
We see that Black Sun depicted. Some people argue that
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that Black Son is actually referring to the real power
source within the planet. And there does seem to be
a German history, if you read all the Inner Earth
accounts that goes way back to the fifteen hundreds potentially earlier,
of a race that speaks a German dialect or very
tall living within the planet. And they can, maybe some
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call them the Aryan race, which is what the Coming
Race is referring to. And this is why Hitler was
on such a missmission to basically they were trying to
preserve that bloodline. So they were trying to basically perfect
the Aryan race and weed out every everyone from Germany
who wasn't blonde here blue eye, who didn't think were
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true pure blooded Arians. And that was one of the
driving factors for a lot of Hitler's behavior back then.
And this is all arguable and debatable but this is
just some of the stuff I researched the vill Now
we get into the Vial domin the Vial Society, which
is a group of psychic women channelers in the early
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nineteen hundreds who were working with I'm going to put
it in a nutshell first and then we can expand
on it, who were working with German scientists. And what
they were doing was their story is they were trying
to get back home to al deboron the planet al
deboron where they claimed to be from somehow their lineage,
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they got basically trapped on Earth for generations and they
were waiting for us to evolve enough to where we
could actually build them a ship, help them build the
ship to get home. And it just happened to be
that they were located in that region of the world
before World War two, or during World War One and
World War two, and the Germans just happened to be
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ahead of anyone else on the planet at the time
as far as their technological advancements and free energy and
all this stuff. So these Rille were channeling blueprints for
a craft which is essentially a time machine the way
they describe it, to get them back home off of Earth.
They were trapped here and most of the blueprints were
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in another language. They speak another language. A lot of
them were in hieroglyphs like some sort of weird not
Egyptian hieroglyphs, but some sort of hieroglyphics like that, and
they all had to be translated to German so these
German scientists could help them build a craft to get
back home. And that's where that's in a nutshell. In
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March eleventh, nineteen forty five was the last time anyone
heard from them, and it has always been speculation that
they just went back home. But I have since come
across some material. I have notes here that it's a
released classified document from the Air Force that quite literally
says very specifically, on March eleventh, nineteen forty five, they
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all left, and I can read a segment from that.
But there's also a diary from his name is Barn
Wilhelm Wilhelm Spottenheim, and it's a diary, his personal diary
that has been released by Sean David Morton, who was
killed for releasing it. But it basically diaries his entire
time working with these re real dimins and building this
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flying saucer, which became the building blocks of the secret
space program in the German flying saucer program. And there's
a whole history there, and there's a lot of politics involved,
and to be honest, a lot of the diary is
kind of like you're just reading someone's diary. It's not
like super compelling stuff. But then there's amazing information mixed
in with it, but you kind of have to understand
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whole story to see what really happened, and it just
basically covers thirty years of missing history that the world
really doesn't understand unless you're reading this material.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
So the real.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Domen were beautiful women, They had very They did not
cut their hair. They believed that their hair helped them
channel and they had very They were they could perform miracles,
is what people would say, because they were just tapping
in They were all virgins, by the way, and they
were just tapping into their true potential because they were
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actually remembered they were from another planet. They didn't have
amnesia like us, and they could do things that other
people couldn't, which gave them pool. And basically, the Nazi,
the German government at the time, and anyone of influence
within Nazi Germany was very interested in these women because
these women were predicting, predicting things in Germany and they
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thought this they had a gift of foresight, so like
and a lot of these people involved, they thought this
was a valuable asset for war because they can see
what was coming before it happened, and these women proved it.
So there's more, and I'll let you ask a question.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But okay, well you're blowing my mind right now because
when this occurred to me, when I heard the name Brill,
I also along with that was an urgency to find
out the story to so I knew it was urgent
not only for me, but for everybody to know. So
(12:35):
when I heard that there's a theory that there's a
subterranean race that does want to come up, come up
out into the open on the planet and take over
the planet, I thought, oh, I think we do need
to know about that if that's the case. But everything
you're talking about right now is fascinating. And now you
(12:58):
mentioned the real women. Are there real men?
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
At this time, no, there were.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
There was just six of them I think, well technically
nine total by the end of it all, and they
were all slowly recruited by this one woman who had
claimed to have been living here. She she was like
hundreds of years old, blonde, blue eye, very beautiful. She
had she claims to have been living here for generations
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and she had Eventually humanity had been we had evolved
enough to where she she could start recruiting these women
and creating the real society. And she was teaching these
women how to tap into their abilities as well. But
they were all part of the same bloodline, and she
understood that they didn't quite yet. It's like a star
seed remembering who they are eventually, you know. Yes, it's
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kind of like that. So she was helping them, but
she needed them because she needed them to help bring
in all this information because it ended up being just
pages and pages and books of stuff that they needed
to actually give these German scientists so they could have
something that they could understand, not only understand, but build,
and they kind of coached them through it. But it was, uh, yeah,
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there was no men that I know of now. Of course,
there were men of this bloodline, but this specific thing
I'm talking about, the real dominant was a group of women.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You know, and that is that's kind of scary that
they went. Obviously the Germans were more technologically advanced, but
I just wonder if they knew what the Germans were
going to be doing with this technology, and you know,
if they knew that they had contacted a group that
wasn't so great, you know, they had ill intentions.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Here's well, here, right here, this answer to your question.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
This is from Baron Wilhelm Spottenheim's diary. This is a
quote that he wrote from Sigrin, the girl who is
the lead, the lead girl a lot. I think a
lot of people think it was Maria Orsik, that there's
a whole story behind that, but there was a woman
kind of behind Maria that was pulling all the strings.
(15:06):
And when they finally asked her because they realized like.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
There was an ulterior motive for these girls.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Too, And basically she said, I use people to save people,
to save an idea that is being stomped out in
the universe as we perceive it. That is that we
are doing here. That is what we are doing here,
and that is why I use the Nazis to their
own end. They won't win anything. They will leave another
burned out civilization behind them and millions dead. Yet there
has to be hoped that someplace peace can be achieved
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and protected.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That is my job. I am so very, very very
tired of it. And then she.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Basically admits they were using the Nazis. But and this
is what happened. Basically, they did build a craft without
the Nazis. They were able to recruit enough civilians to
help them build a craft, and they crashed it on
the test flight. They had no funding to build another one,
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so they proved to Hitler, Hans Kammler, house Offer, Spottenheim,
Otto Schumann, who came up to Schumann residents, all these
German scientists. They were able to prove their abilities to
them to get their attention and said, listen, if you
fund us, we can build you one of these craft.
We'll build ourself one to get home, and we'll teach
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you how to build one to do whatever you want
with it. So they were in fact using the Germans.
But the version the blueprints that they gave the German
scientists they left out specific key components so they couldn't
turn it into a weapon, which in the history books
it really does. You can read about how the Germans
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were very frustrated. They couldn't figure out how to mount
guns on these things. They could just like float around.
But it was like a horrible craft for war strategy,
which is what they.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Wanted it for.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
But they did that intentionally so they wouldn't destroy the
world with this technology. And and this haphazardly misused time travel,
because that's end up what happened anyway, But there's a
whole wild story behind it. I can go any number
of directions you want, but I'll let you chime in.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So is is that what is behind the German Bell,
the time travel device?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
So that actually came after they had built a successful saucer,
and the Bell was this was the proposition to the
German government. They said, we can build you a device
that can drop off a nuclear bomb behind enemy lines
and a fraction of a second and leave without a trace. Basically,
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the Bell's design was to literally transport a bomb via
time travel behind basically a teleporter and literally drop a
bomb off and then leave and pop back, and before
they knew what happened, the bomb would be exploded.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
The first time they.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Tested it, it killed a bunch of people in the
facility because they didn't actually know what they were doing.
A lot of the women weren't involved in the project
at this point. The German scientists were very hard headed
and they didn't follow the plant the prints to the
specifications like they should have. They ended up getting it
to work, but what happened was it killed a bunch
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of people.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
First.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
It took off and disappeared in the skies above the
facility and had time traveled twenty years in the future.
The Kexsburgh, Pennsylvania in nineteen sixty five, where if you
go to the Kecksburgh UFO incident, bell shaped craft crash
landed in the woods there. At that point we had
Operation paper Clip, which a German scientists were embedded within
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our infrastructure, the military industrial complex and at the head
of all the major corporations in the United States. So
on that UFO crash retrieval team were some Germans who
knew what the bell was because they were German scientists
that came here through Project paper Clip. They knew immediately
what they were looking at when they saw it. The
Americans not so much. But this was I don't know
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the politics of all that, but there was a group
of people that knew, okay, the Bell worked.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
We just didn't have any control of where it was going.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And obviously that sparked a whole other side quest with
time travel in the United States.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Oh my goodness, we've opened a rabbit hole here, haven't we.
Now there's another story about a complete different group called
real or something like it, that are supposed toly reptilian types,
and those are the ones that want to come up
and take over the world. What do you know about that?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
So I don't know a whole lot about that.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I know what you're talking about, and I think there's
some confusion in the narratives because the Aryan race allegedly
is an underground race. They call themselves the New Atlanteans.
There's a story dating back all the way to the
fifteen hundreds of evidence of German civilization discovering this inner
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Earth society, right, and they're definitely were there. Definitely is
history of the Germans, Carl Houshoffer working in Tibet with
the Black Dragon Society, the Green and the Black Dragon Society,
which were channeling reptilians quite literally subterranean reptilians, and they
were like getting this whole master plan that was eventually
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this five thousand year plan that was to be given
to Hitler, which is exactly what Carl Haushoffer did, And
so there seemed to be a reptilian presence behind a
subterranean reptilian presence behind a lot of the Nazis' moves
and a lot of you know, their motives, but there
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was also this subterranean arian race, and I personally believe
they're both. They were separate, but I think a lot
of people who aren't like reading, like doing a lot
of research, they can seem like it's just one lump
sum group down there, and I think there's two different
stories going on at the same time. And even some
of these German scientists, if you read the diary, they
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actually didn't They hated the Nazis. They didn't want to
be a part of the Nazi party, but they understood
that they had to obey orders too or they would
be killed. So a lot of the Nazis didn't even
want to be Nazis, and this is something we don't consider.
So there was a lot of people on the inside
that were trying to escape and get out, while Hitler
just was power hungry and he actually kind of went
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against some of his own orders from his superiors. Whoever
he was getting them from, and kind of destroyed their
whole plan because he just got power hungry. And you know,
there's a whole history there.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Well, as we know, a lot of Nazis came to America,
Nazi scientists, and our government used them in many projects,
many top secret projects, and so I wonder what they
brought with them about the real what kind of technology
and information did they bring that would assist America.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Well, so that was just it. Actually, if you watch
the latest Indiana Jones movies, the Dial of Destiny, the
antagonist in that movie, I don't know what he goes by,
what name he goes by in the movie, but I
looked it up and that character is modeled after Werner
von Braun, who was the German scientist who led NASA.
He was the head of NASA post World War two,
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and according to these disinformation, he was set that the
whole purpose of the German scientists coming over here were
to keep America distracted with rockets while they were building
their while they were doing their saucer program. So he
was in charge of the rocket program because that was
his job to make sure that we were focused on
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rockets instead of flying saucers according to this, and if
you watch the latest Indiana Jones movie, it literally tells
that story. It tells the story, but they don't use
one of rom Braun's name, but that's exactly who that
character was modeled after. And that movie is about time travel,
so one of them Braun in that movie is a
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time traveler and he's after some ancient relic, the Dial
of Destiny, which can help them detect the fissier in time,
which is important because they can detect when, when, and
where somebody is going to be popping in or out,
and they can then identify the threat instead of not knowing.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Okay, well, this is interesting and I want to hear
a lot more. Probably we probably don't have enough time
to discuss everything tonight, but we'll get to it and
we'll be back right after these messages. Talking with Tyler
Kowala at the Sevening.
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Speaker 2 (25:30):
And we're back. This is Unexed News. I'm your host,
Margie Ka. We're talking with Tyler Kowala, the siafning. He
is the host of the Journey to Truth podcast and
also hosts the Rebels of Disclosure conference. Let me just
ask you about that real quick before we lose anything.
Uh louse, get out of time here. What about your
(25:51):
next conference? Where's that going to be?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Next?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
One's in Hawaii. Actually it's not called Rebels of Disclosure,
it's just called Journey to the Big Island and April
twentieth through the twenty fourth, and it's kind of like
a vacation conference slash retreat. We're going to be swimming
with dolphins and whales, going to sacred sides. Plus will
be at a venue which is a community center, and
we'll have some speakers there. Only by nine speakers, not many.
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It's going to be conference slash retreat and you can
go to get information journey to truth dot online. I
just updated a website and we'll be finalizing the line
up here shortly hopefully.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Absolutely fantastic. It sounds wonderful. Thank you for sharing that.
And you recently moved to Sedona, so how do you
like it there?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's amazing. It's great to just change things up.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I grew.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I lived in Saint Louis for thirty eight years and
I was getting a little stagnant. I just needed I
was in my house for twelve years. I just needed
a change, and I moved out here. I'm getting in
better shape, I'm just feeling better energetically. It's just a
nice change of scenery, new motivation for life. So it's
been great.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Do you notice the energy there? It is so positive.
I've been there and experienced it, and in fact, I
went out to the rocks, and the energy was so
overwhelming that after about an hour, I felt like I
was getting super vertico and feeling like I was going
to faint. I understand it takes some getting used to.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a whole Sedona can be
its own episode. But yeah, I one hundred percent. The
energy is potent. The vortex energy is measurable here. It's
very real. Someday it fluctuates. Some days are intense for everyone,
some days are a lot lighter. It just depends. But
I mean everything. It seems like the spiritual journey is
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accelerated here. And I don't know how to describe that,
but that's just what it feels like. And there's a
lot of positive energy here.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Absolutely, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay, back to the real Well, you've done a deep
dive into this, you've studied it. What else can you
tell us about it?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
So something, A number of things, something, And we're working
with two diaries here, the original diary from the German scientist,
then another diary. It's a whole o the story. It's
really hard a long time to explain. Yes, that is
the that's the one I'm referring to.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But with that diary was found within another set of
diaries from another man who spent forty years in the
shadow government, and when he was reviewing this diary, he
just thought it was strange. One of the notes that
he made was, I started to look at dates in
the sheets, rosters, schedules, maintenance reports, and all other kinds
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of supporting documents. Everything stopped on the same day, March eleventh,
nineteen forty five. What is so special about March eleventh,
nineteen forty five. Well, we have a he classified document,
a declassified document from the Air Force which anyone can
find online probably at this point, but it's listed in
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this book. And the document is a conversation between the Army,
Army personnel, Air Force personnel and wind feed Otto Schumann
and if anybody knows has heard of the Shuman residence,
this is the guy who discovered the Shuman residence. And
he discovered that because he was on the project when
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they got the first flying saucer.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
To power up.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
They built it, they still didn't understand how it worked,
and he was fascinated how it was where it was
drawing its energy from. He could not figure out where
it was drawing its energy from and it inspired him
to research that and look into that and investigate it,
and that's where he discovered the Earth was resonating at
a specific frequency seven eighty three hertz and it was
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named after him. So it was because of the German
flying Saucer program that he even discovered the Human residence.
Interestingly enough, this guy, he wasn't the greatest guy when
you read about him, like, we would not like him
today if he was in our government. And I find
it interesting that we still tie his name to the
Struman residence because he was not for humanity.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I'll just say that him now, right right exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
But we have him to thank for discovering it, help
us helping us discover it. But okay, so this is
from a declassified Army Air Force document from that came
from Right Parison Base Right Patterson Army Air Force Base
in Dayton, Ohio, nineteen sixty eight, August twenty seventh, and
(30:47):
it says neither of the original Army then the newly
formed Air Force officers that interviewed the subject. They're currently
on active duty with the services. So anybody who conducted
this interview aren't even alive to ask about the legitimacy
of this conversation, but nevertheless, here it is documented. But
there's one specific thing I wanted to warn a note.
(31:10):
So the Air Force was basically just they were throwing
everything they had at him. You know, he was under
the spotlight on the hot seat, I guess you could say.
And they were asking him, what why, what was the
purpose of this flying saucer program? What did these women want?
(31:30):
And he basically said to move people? And he said yes,
nineteen flights in three days, two two and sixty one
people in total each time. Seven seven was the nickname
for the craft they were using to get to El
Debor On. Each time it came back, it looked worse
(31:51):
and worse, old, beaten like it had been through war.
We would have spent a few we would spend a
few hours repairing it as fast as we could.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Then we would send it again.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
In less than one hour, it was back, but our
downtime for repairs were getting longer and longer. We had
to learn that the life support we had learned that
the life support only had to last for forty minutes total.
We used a one off U boat to keep everyone
alive inside lithium hydroxide canisters and a ventilating system driven
(32:21):
my fans whatever. So basically what they're saying is in
March eleventh, nineteen forty five, it actually took them three
days to do this. They moved two thousand, two hundred
and sixty one people off of planet Earth to back
to the planet Aldeborn through this craft. And the way
the craft is described, it's not traveling through space like
we think. It quite literally opens a portal in the sky,
(32:44):
it pops to a time tunnel, and.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
It takes them.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
It took them virtually forty minutes to get to across
the galaxy. I remain light years away to get these
planet these people back, but it would it would be
forty minutes Earth time, but for them, it was like
one hundred years past. So every time the craft came back,
(33:07):
it was looked like it had just been decades old
and destroyed. And it got so they were only able
to get nineteen flights out of it, and the last
twenty people. There was like virtually twenty people left that
had to go, and the craft never came back after
the nineteenth flight, so there's still twenty people left here
(33:28):
of that airan race from that planet that basically just
had to stay here, and it's just super interesting. But
they're also in one of their own diaries, they also
talk about this very specifically, about how many trips it
would take. Whenever they were explaining to the German scientists,
they already knew that they were only going to get
(33:50):
so many trips out of it before it expired, because
Earth at that time we didn't have the proper materials
to build a craft that could actually withstand the magnetic
the time field space.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Well, yeah, hundreds of years it would have been.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, so that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, and you know, if let me see, here's here's
what it. Let me see if I can find it. Well,
this is this is her explaining to one of the scientists.
We're gonna have We're only going to have one shot
to get this right. The fate of many civilizations depends
on this, and reality the fate of yours as well,
(34:33):
but not at this point. The timeline is moving, and
there will be those that come after you that make
sure the same journey and and fight the same battles,
that make the same journey and fight the same battles,
just for different reasons. That they're connected. It goes She
goes on and on basically explaining how the universe works
and why this is important and that there isn't imposing
what they call Sumerian threat like the Alanachi Sumerians. According
(34:58):
to her, they basically kind of like they were wardens.
They monitored all space air traffic coming and going from
not just our planet, but multiple planets. And this craft
in particular, was a way to basically fly under the
radar and leave the planet without this Sumerian stopping them,
because nobody was allowed to leave. The planet was quite
(35:20):
literally being watched by the Sumerian race and whatever crafts
they were in, and they needed this time machine. Essentially
it looks like a flying saucer, but it's a time
machine that literally uses dimensional shift technology. It technically travels
in another dimension. This way it can't be detected. And
this is what they came up with to get off
(35:42):
the planet back home to their people. And it's just
a fascinating story. But there was something else that I
have all these notes, I can't even here's what here
it is right here I have, She says, I have
seven hundred and thirty six people that need to be
transported transported from here to there, nine trips in the craft.
By then it will be barely holding together because the
(36:03):
hull and the motor time on it will be measured
in centuries. So basically it took them three days to
do nineteen trips, but the craft experienced centuries of damage
because of the way time works in space according to
here compared to here. So, I mean, we have a
fascinating story in history. And you know, they left in
(36:25):
nineteen forty five, but the Germans still had access to
this technology and they kept developing these craft and so
they perfected it and they figured out, you know, they
left problems in it for them intentionally, so they wouldn't,
you know, keep they wanted them to just hit dead ends.
But they eventually broke through that and you know they
went down. You know you heard Operation high Jump. You know,
(36:47):
there was a whole there's a whole history of the
German flying saucer program which ended up with them going
to the Moon, even Mars. There's documents of that way
early on, way before the apoleomis.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah. Yeah, I know several people who said that they
worked on the Mars and Moon programs quite some time ago.
In the sixties and seventies, So yeah, there definitely has
been stuff going on there. But this also reminds me
that there have been a number of cases lately where
people have actually gotten video of what looks like a
(37:23):
portal opening. There's a flash, there's a white light, and
then an object comes out, some type of a craft,
maybe it's sauce search shape or something else or cube
or something like that, and it, I mean, it looks
like we are using that technology, or somebody is using
it on our planet. Some type of human group has
(37:47):
figured this out and they've perfected it and now they
are using it.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yeah, one hundred percent they I wish I knew where
it was in the book, but she says, basically, it's
the only practical.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Way to travel the universe.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Traveler Galaxy is literally to create travel through this portal
system to try and break through the atmosphere and go
on a long journey. She said, it would take It's possible,
but it would take you so long that by the
time you got to where you were going, you would
forget why you were even going there in the first place,
because it would be a whole new generation like it's
(38:21):
just would take that long. And actually today I just
saw an article that I shared about a proposed plan
for scientists unveiled design for a thirty six mile long
interstellar generationship that's capable of carrying twenty four hundred people
on a one way trip that Alpha Centauri. It would
take them four hundred years. And this is like, you know,
(38:45):
it's if all this stuff is true, you have to wonder,
like the people in this think tank that are coming
up with this plan for this craft are obviously left
in the dark about their actual technology that we have,
and this could be part of some narrative that just
want the public believing it's going to take us years
to get way of it, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And they probably really are going to use the other technology.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah, yeah, And according to you know, there's people that say,
that's actually kind of how we got to the Moon.
We use a technology similar to what I just described
when we did go, but the rocket roost was quite
literally the Dog and Pony show. But there's evidence here
that they did actually go to the Moon. I know
a lot of people think we didn't go because the
(39:28):
footage was faked. The footage was faked because they couldn't
reveal the technology, how they actually got there and it
wasn't in a rocket, the traditional rocket, you know.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
And it's all speculation. It's not like I can prove
any of this, but that's just what I've researched.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, when you think about it, they the media, you know, film,
We're talking about rockets in the nineteen thirties, in the twenties,
even in the in the movies. So this is old,
old idea technology and I've I've heard a lot, I've
heard a lot about this that that is not being
(40:05):
used and that would it would make sense if there
was something much more practical, faster, easier. And then of
course we have this evidence of wormholes and portals. And
I witness a portal myself a few years ago. I
was working on the book Winged Aliens, and I was
getting I was just finishing up the book and I
(40:29):
was sitting on my deck and I thought, I wonder
if these creatures, specifically Mothman and other types of entities
are coming in and going out through portals, because there's
never a body found. There's you never see one standing
in person in the middle of a crowd. Uh, none
(40:51):
of that. And so my answer came because I saw
a flash. This circle woke opened up. A believe it
or not, golden colored fairy flew across. Another portal opened
and she flew into it and they closed. That was
my answer. I mean, I was just thinking the question.
(41:13):
That just showed me, Yes, there are portals and they
can obviously be created. Last night I was doing a
meditation and I said how are portals created? And one
word came in thought.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Right, I thought so.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Actually that was the one thing that Germans couldn't understand.
There's no blueprints for the controls. They couldn't figure out, like,
how do you control this thing? And she explained that
right here you have asked each other the questions where
are the controls? There are none in the main craft.
It's an elevator of sort of sorts that works on
(41:52):
consciousness and thoughts. You just basically they had to learn
how to control it with their mind and the opening
the portal in particular, I don't know about that, but
to control of the craft. It was just a consciousness
space system. They didn't even understand, but they knew how
to use it because you know, they were taught. But
it's just just because you know how to use your
(42:14):
phone doesn't mean you know how it was built and.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
How it works right right exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
But one of the things I will say, so she
explains the dangers of time travel, and this is just
something I found very interesting. And this is I mean,
I recommend everybody to read it all. It's just full
of It's like meaning an anatomy book and trying to
memorize it in the first try, like you just can't.
But they said, using time compression with spaceflight is expected
(42:43):
and approved by other but basically spacefaring races. So using
time compression with spaceflight is expected and approved. Using it
by itself is a capital crime in the universe, meaning
creating a time machine that a human can go through,
(43:03):
or a device that just using it by itself without a ship,
without being authorized, it's a capital crime in the universe.
There are levels of control in the universe that have
been in place for millions of years. When a planet
reaches the point of understanding the nature of splitting the
atom and using that power, the first level set of
monitors is sent to start watch. So they send a
(43:26):
group of monitors to monitor to planet. Whenever we do that,
when rocket levels the atmosphere, when a rocket levels the atmosphere,
the next level comes into play. If the rocket has
sentient beings on board, that level is escalated. When someone
learns to move through time, a much bigger problem shows
up on their doorstep, and if they cannot defend their actions,
(43:47):
those systems are shut down, meaning defend your actions. Why
are you using time travel? It's all about control and
the hierarchy of the powers in the universe from the
local level, which normally is a planetary system, to the
quadrant of the galaxy, which is where the heavy hitters play.
And she's basically going on describing like it, the space
(44:09):
is not where we think like we think we're just
going to go out there and discover everything for the
first time. This is a millions year, million year old game,
millions of years old, you know. And there's already people
out there with their own space programs, you know, monitoring
the galaxy.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
So yeah, and here we are on Earth just trying
to convince people that there are such thing as non
human entities that are sentient beings an intelligent species. And
those of us who have been in the game for
a while absolutely know that that's true. But for a
(44:48):
lot of people, because look, this stuff isn't taught in school.
Nobody knows the truth unless they go digging for it
or run into a If they have a signing themselves,
are they an et walks in their yard, then they know,
But for the most part that doesn't occur. What are
(45:11):
your thoughts on why we don't have a constant disclosure
going on? Why aren't ets walking among us all over
the planet right now?
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Well, I would argue that maybe they are in some
cases in human form and we wouldn't recognize them. In fact,
that's what I've read a number of books. But and
sometimes you see people that don't quite fit in, but
you would never know unless you knew, right, I would
say as far as why we don't have active disclosure
is because the government doesn't like what they can't control.
(45:46):
And according to this material, the government is kind of
left out of the loop on a lot of these
black projects.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
They've created a shadow government that needs no congressional oversight,
meaning they just bypass the entire government entirely, and they're
creating these space programs and all these other things, and
these time travel devices with no congressional oversight, never having
to go through the president or anyone in Congress. They've
built their own shadow government that in fact is so powerful,
(46:15):
you know, the government, the traditional government that we understand,
has to bow down to them. And it's kind of
like this, you know, and there's this hierarchy of potentially
some form of alien overlords, you know, pulling the strings
on the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Who knows.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
But there's the reason we don't get that disclosure is
because the government isn't Actually they don't have their hands
on all of the truth. It's very compartmentalized, and a
lot of guys in these programs they've grush and everybody's
coming out. They do have bits and pieces of the puzzle,
and they're all telling they're sharing their testimony as they
understand it, but they don't have.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
The full picture.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
And I would argue, I would argue that nobody has
the full picture. So there's not one person that's going
to come out and give you the answers because they
quite literally don't don't know. They only understand the program
that they were read into, and that's it. And there's
a lot of blackmail, a lot of treason. People have
blood on their hands. They've been lying to us for
(47:11):
a decade our century now, and they're not going to
come out and tell on themselves. They're trying to disclose
this stuff, find a way to disclose this stuff without
telling on themselves, right. I mean, they're not going to
just because then we would have to question the integrity
of the military industrial complex, the government, everything that we've
learned to trust and give our power to. They don't
(47:34):
want to give up that power, so they're not going
to undermine themselves. They're trying to dance around it. And
suddenly this year we have all these breakthrough discoveries and
all these articles leaking that, oh, we found a way
to send a teleport an object, we found a way
to do this, we can elon. Musk is working on
a warp capable motor, they can travel, you know, all
(47:54):
this stuff. It's like, all of a sudden, somebody gave
him the green light to start leaking these articles and
these documents out. And I think it's just their way
of disclosing it without telling on themselves. They might their
hand might be forced at some point by extraterrestrials or
by a certain race that's just had enough of humans,
And we'll see maybe that's happening behind the scenes, but
(48:15):
I think the politics of it are quite quite complicated,
and a lot more complicated than most people can comprehend,
because we're talking about things that aren't supposed to exist,
and even inner dimensional politics. I mean, our government's working
cross dimensionally, and that's there's area whistleblowers that talk about
that too.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
It's a much bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah, and we'll probably never see the entire picture because
I think there are approximately seventeen different government agencies that
work on black ops programs, and they each are their compartmentalized.
Like you said, right now, I want to since we're
getting close on time, the twenty brill who were left behind,
(49:01):
Where are they now?
Speaker 3 (49:03):
That's a great question. So some of these, like Cigarin,
the lead woman, could live hundreds of years, that's just
her DNA. I don't know if these people live that
long as well. I would argue that they went back
to inner Earth. There's there's a narrative that after World
War Two, the Germans that didn't go off planet went
(49:25):
to either Argentina or Antarctica. Both have entrances to the
subterranean world, and it's all well documented. Depending on what
books you read and where you research it, and all
that stuff. But in my personal opinion, they did not
stay on the surface. They probably reunited with their brothers
and sisters and on the ground somewhere, but probably in Antarctica.
(49:46):
If I had to guess, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Going to say Argentina for Hitler, because there's a lot
of evidence that that's where you went.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
Yeah. Actually, that's that's you get to read about that here.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
In this book are available.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah, So after Sean died, the books just disappeared off
of Amazon, but his wife somehow got him back on
to Amazon, and so they're readily available now. But for
a minute there after he died, you were going to
pay one hundreds of dollars for one of these books
because people were selling them on eBay and stuff. And
(50:26):
like I said, this is like kind of blows the
lid on their whole cover story. And this is just
book six of what's going to be a nine book series.
Sean actually finished book eight and nine before he died,
but they weren't complete. So his wife is editing them
now and the book eight is going to be released
(50:47):
on in this fall, basically to continue it's a whole, long,
drawn out story of this man's forty year experience in
the Shadow Government. But only book six is a verbatim diary.
Now with within the other books there are documents and.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Actual you know you there, yeah, gotchach.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Within the other books there are documents and declassified stuff
and segments of the original diaries. But it's it's just
you really have to read it all to really get
the big picture. Once I started reading it, I was like,
oh my gosh, like all these it was answering all
these questions that were always just left hanging when we
when we watch these UFO programs and all this stuff,
and it was filling in so many blanks.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
For me, it was just a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
But you can get the books on Amazon right now,
Stands of Time or Mysterious or Strange Universe radio dot com.
You can get them directly from Shawn's wife. She'll mail
them to you personally, and so I can give you
that website.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Strange Universe Radio dot com.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
Okay, yeah, but what they say about Hitler in here
is so it documents like how basically his whole death
in his old diary and they claimed that he died
but was replaced by clone and there was a whole
cloning program that they discussed back then too, and one
(52:13):
letter was sent to Maria Orsik, who became basically Hitler's
like people don't know if they were dating or sleeping
together or what, but he became She became his personal
aid because she had the ability of foresight and she
had these psychic abilities, so he wouldn't make a decision
without going through her. She received a letter after he died,
(52:34):
but then he really wasn't dead because she was still
with him. It was a whole complicated story, but she
received a letter that said, pay attention to the differences
and that's all. It said, pay attention to the differences
and meaning within Hitler. So apparently, according to this material,
(52:55):
it's the clone that went to Argentina for whatever reason.
I don't know, Like, is you got to read it?
It's all right there, But yeah, sounds crazy, I know.
But there is a movie, The Boys from Brazil is
a movie. It was I forget what year came out.
The entire premise of the movie is about them trying
(53:17):
to clone Hitler and it's a whole program.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
And there was there was a guy named George Green.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
He's dead now, but he was a whistleblower on Project
Camelot with Carry Cassidy, and he came out and could
not stress enough. He goes, that movie is direct disclosure
of the cloning program, and they were trying to clone
Hitler and they might have done it, is what he said.
And so the boys from Brazil. If you want to
watch that movie, it basically talks about that. So if
(53:45):
they did successfully clone him, then maybe that's who went
to Antarctica. And I know this is getting wu but
I mean, our history in this planet isn't what we
think it is.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
So oh exactly. Now we've got X coming up in
September the twenty seventh, the twenty eighth. You are going
to be speaking. Do you want to tell us real
quick and about one minute what you're going to be
talking about.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Yeah, so I'm going to talk about my I've had
two recruitment attempts into these programs. One was very real,
tangible recruitment attempts by real people, not some like memory
I got back. There was one guy who was trying
to bring me into Mars program. I didn't believe it.
That was in twenty seventeen. I didn't even understand the
secret space program yet. This was before my whole awakening.
(54:33):
I'm going to tell that story. And then secondly, in
twenty twenty two, I had another man from the Navy.
He was a warrant warrant officer recruitment specialist and his
job was to recruit gifted star seeds into the programs
and he basically basically gave me a proposition. He proposed
(54:54):
a recruitment possibility for me. And there's a whole story
with that, And I'm just going to tell those two
stories and how real look out for me and what
I learned about the programs from that.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
So okay, well, that's going to be fascinating. Your talks
are always very interesting and thought provoking, and I appreciate
you coming on the show tonight, Tyler, to show your
information about they're real with us. I really have gone
down the rabbit hole on this. Now I'm going to
have to read all those books you've talked about, so
(55:26):
I guess I know what I'm going to be doing
the next three months. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (55:31):
I recommend that they're great reads.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
I mean it's such it's so captivating you almost binge
read them like you binge watch a Netflix series Like
I couldn't put them down, like I read the first
three books in one month, and they're like five hundred
page books, Like I could not stop. And then you know,
you get further along, and then you get the book six.
We're like, oh my god, Like if this is a
real diary, this needs to be a documentary, it needs
(55:54):
to be a movie. Everyone needs an old body. It
can't just stay in these pages. That's why I started
becoming so passionate about it, and people just need to know.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Oh boy, all right, thanks so much Tyler for coming
on and sharing that information with us this evening. I
appreciate it, and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
See you later.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Thank you, all right, goodbye, everybody, See you next here
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Hello, and welcome to the unex News Podcast. I'm Margie K.
And this evening, we have a little bit of an
unusual show for you, but stick with me because I
think you're going to find it very interesting. So I
do want to mention one of our latest books that
ONEX Media published is All Monsters Are Human by Derek Smith,
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And since we're coming up on Halloween, I think that
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there you go. That's number four in the series of
(01:32):
our coloring books. So tonight we're going to be talking
about the vrill and this is something I didn't know
anything about until a couple of weeks ago, and something
very strange happened to me. I was asleep and dreaming,
and my husband said it was about three and o'clock
in the morning. I dreamt that I was speaking in
(01:56):
my sleep, which I have occasionally done, not very often,
but sometimes, and the first time it occurred. So I'm
gonna back up to twenty twelve. Okay, this is when
the first time occurred that my husband witnessed it. My
husband told me in the morning after we both woke up,
(02:17):
that in the middle of the night, I was speaking
in another person's voice, not my own, and he did
not understand what I was saying, and he tried to
just gently wake me up, and he said, I said,
(02:38):
Margie's not here right now, She'll be back later, and
that scared the me Jesus out of him, and he
didn't say anything else. And then he waited until I
fell asleep and wasn't talking anymore, and then told me
about it in the morning. So fast forward two weeks ago.
(02:58):
I dreamt that I was speaking in my sleep in
an unknown language, and then when I woke up, my
husband said to me, you were talking in your sleep
again last night, and it was an unknown language. It
didn't sound human. And then when I woke up in
the morning for real, the first thing my husband really
(03:22):
said to me was this exact same thing you were
talking in your sleep last night, and it sounded like
a non human language, sounded alien. I did not recognize it,
but it was a language. And I just said to him, well,
you know what did it sound like? He says, I
can't describe it. And then all of a sudden, a
(03:44):
man's voice said to me, and I heard it in
my head. I think it was there one word real,
that was it. I've never heard that word before. I
did not know what it meant. And I and so
I got online. I looked at Wikipedia to get some
answers and then ordered a couple of books. I have
(04:07):
not read them yet. But then I was in conversation
with Tyler Kowala recently, and so Tyler has some knowledge
of this, and he's going to share with us tonight.
Tyler Kowala is an independent. He is an et experiencer,
independent researcher, and passionate disclosure activist, most popularly known in
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the Awakening community for Journey to Truth podcast hosted by
himself and fellow disclosure activist Aaron Khon. Together, they have
created a platform for discussing any and all controversial and
eye opening topics without limitations, in an effort to spread
awareness to the masses. Tyler's journey began with a levitation
experience shortly after his mother's passing in twenty eleven that
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ended with intense paralysis and visitation from shadow people. This
would lead to experiences with inner Earth beings sasquatch, grays, reptilians,
and recruitment attempts into covert military programs. Tyler is currently
in the process of retrieving suppressed memories from what he
believes are from his involvement with agencies within the shadow government.
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Welcome to the program, Tyler.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Hey, thank you for the wonderful intro, and I'm happy
to be back on the show and I'm super excited
about tonight's topic. I'm very passionate about it, so thanks
for having me.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well. I was surprised to hear that you knew about
what this was, what real meant, and I'm just really
excited to hear your take on it and what the
history of that may be. I did grab the two
photos that you sent me, but also this old old
book from eighteen seventy one, The Coming Race, Yes Race Zeril.
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The Power of the Coming Race, originally published as The
Coming Race, is a novel by Edward Boulward Lytton, published
anonymously in eighteen seventy one. Some readers that believe the
account of a superior step guranean master race and the
energy form called real at least in part. Some theosophists,
notably Helena Lavatsky, William Scott, Elliott, and Rudolf Steiner, accepted
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the book as based on occult truth in part. Wow,
that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah, well go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So what is what is your take on all of this?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So that book in particular, a lot of people believe
it talks about the rill is like you can compare
it to like the force in Star Wars. It's just
a free energy source that anyone can tap into. But
it can also be harnessed and used to power time machines, UFOs,
you name it, any of that stuff, any free energy
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devices that we would have.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
It just it's like we're with the ether.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But there's this whole narrative that there's a sun within
the hollow Earth that is powered by this vile energy
and it can be harnessed. And I think that's what
the Coming Race talks about. A lot of people, you know,
we hear about the Black Sun from the real domin
and the like the fuel and the Nazi society and stuff.
We see that Black Sun depicted. Some people argue that
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that Black Son is actually referring to the real power
source within the planet. And there does seem to be
a German history, if you read all the Inner Earth
accounts that goes way back to the fifteen hundreds potentially earlier,
of a race that speaks a German dialect or very
tall living within the planet. And they can, maybe some
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call them the Aryan race, which is what the Coming
Race is referring to. And this is why Hitler was
on such a missmission to basically they were trying to
preserve that bloodline. So they were trying to basically perfect
the Aryan race and weed out every everyone from Germany
who wasn't blonde here blue eye, who didn't think were
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true pure blooded Arians. And that was one of the
driving factors for a lot of Hitler's behavior back then.
And this is all arguable and debatable but this is
just some of the stuff I researched the vill Now
we get into the Vial domin the Vial Society, which
is a group of psychic women channelers in the early
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nineteen hundreds who were working with I'm going to put
it in a nutshell first and then we can expand
on it, who were working with German scientists. And what
they were doing was their story is they were trying
to get back home to al deboron the planet al
deboron where they claimed to be from somehow their lineage,
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they got basically trapped on Earth for generations and they
were waiting for us to evolve enough to where we
could actually build them a ship, help them build the
ship to get home. And it just happened to be
that they were located in that region of the world
before World War two, or during World War One and
World War two, and the Germans just happened to be
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ahead of anyone else on the planet at the time
as far as their technological advancements and free energy and
all this stuff. So these Rille were channeling blueprints for
a craft which is essentially a time machine the way
they describe it, to get them back home off of Earth.
They were trapped here and most of the blueprints were
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in another language. They speak another language. A lot of
them were in hieroglyphs like some sort of weird not
Egyptian hieroglyphs, but some sort of hieroglyphics like that, and
they all had to be translated to German so these
German scientists could help them build a craft to get
back home. And that's where that's in a nutshell. In
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March eleventh, nineteen forty five was the last time anyone
heard from them, and it has always been speculation that
they just went back home. But I have since come
across some material. I have notes here that it's a
released classified document from the Air Force that quite literally
says very specifically, on March eleventh, nineteen forty five, they
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all left, and I can read a segment from that.
But there's also a diary from his name is Barn
Wilhelm Wilhelm Spottenheim, and it's a diary, his personal diary
that has been released by Sean David Morton, who was
killed for releasing it. But it basically diaries his entire
time working with these re real dimins and building this
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flying saucer, which became the building blocks of the secret
space program in the German flying saucer program. And there's
a whole history there, and there's a lot of politics involved,
and to be honest, a lot of the diary is
kind of like you're just reading someone's diary. It's not
like super compelling stuff. But then there's amazing information mixed
in with it, but you kind of have to understand
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whole story to see what really happened, and it just
basically covers thirty years of missing history that the world
really doesn't understand unless you're reading this material.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
So the real.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Domen were beautiful women, They had very They did not
cut their hair. They believed that their hair helped them
channel and they had very They were they could perform miracles,
is what people would say, because they were just tapping
in They were all virgins, by the way, and they
were just tapping into their true potential because they were
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actually remembered they were from another planet. They didn't have
amnesia like us, and they could do things that other
people couldn't, which gave them pool. And basically, the Nazi,
the German government at the time, and anyone of influence
within Nazi Germany was very interested in these women because
these women were predicting, predicting things in Germany and they
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thought this they had a gift of foresight, so like
and a lot of these people involved, they thought this
was a valuable asset for war because they can see
what was coming before it happened, and these women proved it.
So there's more, and I'll let you ask a question.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But okay, well you're blowing my mind right now because
when this occurred to me, when I heard the name Brill,
I also along with that was an urgency to find
out the story to so I knew it was urgent
not only for me, but for everybody to know. So
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when I heard that there's a theory that there's a
subterranean race that does want to come up, come up
out into the open on the planet and take over
the planet, I thought, oh, I think we do need
to know about that if that's the case. But everything
you're talking about right now is fascinating. And now you
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mentioned the real women. Are there real men?
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
At this time, no, there were.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
There was just six of them I think, well technically
nine total by the end of it all, and they
were all slowly recruited by this one woman who had
claimed to have been living here. She she was like
hundreds of years old, blonde, blue eye, very beautiful. She
had she claims to have been living here for generations
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and she had Eventually humanity had been we had evolved
enough to where she she could start recruiting these women
and creating the real society. And she was teaching these
women how to tap into their abilities as well. But
they were all part of the same bloodline, and she
understood that they didn't quite yet. It's like a star
seed remembering who they are eventually, you know. Yes, it's
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kind of like that. So she was helping them, but
she needed them because she needed them to help bring
in all this information because it ended up being just
pages and pages and books of stuff that they needed
to actually give these German scientists so they could have
something that they could understand, not only understand, but build,
and they kind of coached them through it. But it was, uh, yeah,
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there was no men that I know of now. Of course,
there were men of this bloodline, but this specific thing
I'm talking about, the real dominant was a group of women.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You know, and that is that's kind of scary that
they went. Obviously the Germans were more technologically advanced, but
I just wonder if they knew what the Germans were
going to be doing with this technology, and you know,
if they knew that they had contacted a group that
wasn't so great, you know, they had ill intentions.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Here's well, here, right here, this answer to your question.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
This is from Baron Wilhelm Spottenheim's diary. This is a
quote that he wrote from Sigrin, the girl who is
the lead, the lead girl a lot. I think a
lot of people think it was Maria Orsik, that there's
a whole story behind that, but there was a woman
kind of behind Maria that was pulling all the strings.
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And when they finally asked her because they realized like.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
There was an ulterior motive for these girls.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Too, And basically she said, I use people to save people,
to save an idea that is being stomped out in
the universe as we perceive it. That is that we
are doing here. That is what we are doing here,
and that is why I use the Nazis to their
own end. They won't win anything. They will leave another
burned out civilization behind them and millions dead. Yet there
has to be hoped that someplace peace can be achieved
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and protected.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That is my job. I am so very, very very
tired of it. And then she.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Basically admits they were using the Nazis. But and this
is what happened. Basically, they did build a craft without
the Nazis. They were able to recruit enough civilians to
help them build a craft, and they crashed it on
the test flight. They had no funding to build another one,
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so they proved to Hitler, Hans Kammler, house Offer, Spottenheim,
Otto Schumann, who came up to Schumann residents, all these
German scientists. They were able to prove their abilities to
them to get their attention and said, listen, if you
fund us, we can build you one of these craft.
We'll build ourself one to get home, and we'll teach
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you how to build one to do whatever you want
with it. So they were in fact using the Germans.
But the version the blueprints that they gave the German
scientists they left out specific key components so they couldn't
turn it into a weapon, which in the history books
it really does. You can read about how the Germans
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were very frustrated. They couldn't figure out how to mount
guns on these things. They could just like float around.
But it was like a horrible craft for war strategy,
which is what they.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Wanted it for.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
But they did that intentionally so they wouldn't destroy the
world with this technology. And and this haphazardly misused time travel,
because that's end up what happened anyway, But there's a
whole wild story behind it. I can go any number
of directions you want, but I'll let you chime in.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So is is that what is behind the German Bell,
the time travel device?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
So that actually came after they had built a successful saucer,
and the Bell was this was the proposition to the
German government. They said, we can build you a device
that can drop off a nuclear bomb behind enemy lines
and a fraction of a second and leave without a trace. Basically,
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the Bell's design was to literally transport a bomb via
time travel behind basically a teleporter and literally drop a
bomb off and then leave and pop back, and before
they knew what happened, the bomb would be exploded.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
The first time they.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Tested it, it killed a bunch of people in the
facility because they didn't actually know what they were doing.
A lot of the women weren't involved in the project
at this point. The German scientists were very hard headed
and they didn't follow the plant the prints to the
specifications like they should have. They ended up getting it
to work, but what happened was it killed a bunch
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of people.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
First.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
It took off and disappeared in the skies above the
facility and had time traveled twenty years in the future.
The Kexsburgh, Pennsylvania in nineteen sixty five, where if you
go to the Kecksburgh UFO incident, bell shaped craft crash
landed in the woods there. At that point we had
Operation paper Clip, which a German scientists were embedded within
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our infrastructure, the military industrial complex and at the head
of all the major corporations in the United States. So
on that UFO crash retrieval team were some Germans who
knew what the bell was because they were German scientists
that came here through Project paper Clip. They knew immediately
what they were looking at when they saw it. The
Americans not so much. But this was I don't know
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the politics of all that, but there was a group
of people that knew, okay, the Bell worked.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
We just didn't have any control of where it was going.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And obviously that sparked a whole other side quest with
time travel in the United States.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Oh my goodness, we've opened a rabbit hole here, haven't we.
Now there's another story about a complete different group called
real or something like it, that are supposed toly reptilian types,
and those are the ones that want to come up
and take over the world. What do you know about that?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
So I don't know a whole lot about that.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I know what you're talking about, and I think there's
some confusion in the narratives because the Aryan race allegedly
is an underground race. They call themselves the New Atlanteans.
There's a story dating back all the way to the
fifteen hundreds of evidence of German civilization discovering this inner
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Earth society, right, and they're definitely were there. Definitely is
history of the Germans, Carl Houshoffer working in Tibet with
the Black Dragon Society, the Green and the Black Dragon Society,
which were channeling reptilians quite literally subterranean reptilians, and they
were like getting this whole master plan that was eventually
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this five thousand year plan that was to be given
to Hitler, which is exactly what Carl Haushoffer did, And
so there seemed to be a reptilian presence behind a
subterranean reptilian presence behind a lot of the Nazis' moves
and a lot of you know, their motives, but there
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was also this subterranean arian race, and I personally believe
they're both. They were separate, but I think a lot
of people who aren't like reading, like doing a lot
of research, they can seem like it's just one lump
sum group down there, and I think there's two different
stories going on at the same time. And even some
of these German scientists, if you read the diary, they
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actually didn't They hated the Nazis. They didn't want to
be a part of the Nazi party, but they understood
that they had to obey orders too or they would
be killed. So a lot of the Nazis didn't even
want to be Nazis, and this is something we don't consider.
So there was a lot of people on the inside
that were trying to escape and get out, while Hitler
just was power hungry and he actually kind of went
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against some of his own orders from his superiors. Whoever
he was getting them from, and kind of destroyed their
whole plan because he just got power hungry. And you know,
there's a whole history there.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Well, as we know, a lot of Nazis came to America,
Nazi scientists, and our government used them in many projects,
many top secret projects, and so I wonder what they
brought with them about the real what kind of technology
and information did they bring that would assist America.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Well, so that was just it. Actually, if you watch
the latest Indiana Jones movies, the Dial of Destiny, the
antagonist in that movie, I don't know what he goes by,
what name he goes by in the movie, but I
looked it up and that character is modeled after Werner
von Braun, who was the German scientist who led NASA.
He was the head of NASA post World War two,
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and according to these disinformation, he was set that the
whole purpose of the German scientists coming over here were
to keep America distracted with rockets while they were building
their while they were doing their saucer program. So he
was in charge of the rocket program because that was
his job to make sure that we were focused on
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rockets instead of flying saucers according to this, and if
you watch the latest Indiana Jones movie, it literally tells
that story. It tells the story, but they don't use
one of rom Braun's name, but that's exactly who that
character was modeled after. And that movie is about time travel,
so one of them Braun in that movie is a
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time traveler and he's after some ancient relic, the Dial
of Destiny, which can help them detect the fissier in time,
which is important because they can detect when, when, and
where somebody is going to be popping in or out,
and they can then identify the threat instead of not knowing.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Okay, well, this is interesting and I want to hear
a lot more. Probably we probably don't have enough time
to discuss everything tonight, but we'll get to it and
we'll be back right after these messages. Talking with Tyler
Kowala at the Sevening.
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Speaker 2 (25:30):
And we're back. This is Unexed News. I'm your host,
Margie Ka. We're talking with Tyler Kowala, the siafning. He
is the host of the Journey to Truth podcast and
also hosts the Rebels of Disclosure conference. Let me just
ask you about that real quick before we lose anything.
Uh louse, get out of time here. What about your
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next conference? Where's that going to be?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Next?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
One's in Hawaii. Actually it's not called Rebels of Disclosure,
it's just called Journey to the Big Island and April
twentieth through the twenty fourth, and it's kind of like
a vacation conference slash retreat. We're going to be swimming
with dolphins and whales, going to sacred sides. Plus will
be at a venue which is a community center, and
we'll have some speakers there. Only by nine speakers, not many.
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It's going to be conference slash retreat and you can
go to get information journey to truth dot online. I
just updated a website and we'll be finalizing the line
up here shortly hopefully.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Absolutely fantastic. It sounds wonderful. Thank you for sharing that.
And you recently moved to Sedona, so how do you
like it there?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's amazing. It's great to just change things up.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I grew.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I lived in Saint Louis for thirty eight years and
I was getting a little stagnant. I just needed I
was in my house for twelve years. I just needed
a change, and I moved out here. I'm getting in
better shape, I'm just feeling better energetically. It's just a
nice change of scenery, new motivation for life. So it's
been great.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Do you notice the energy there? It is so positive.
I've been there and experienced it, and in fact, I
went out to the rocks, and the energy was so
overwhelming that after about an hour, I felt like I
was getting super vertico and feeling like I was going
to faint. I understand it takes some getting used to.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a whole Sedona can be
its own episode. But yeah, I one hundred percent. The
energy is potent. The vortex energy is measurable here. It's
very real. Someday it fluctuates. Some days are intense for everyone,
some days are a lot lighter. It just depends. But
I mean everything. It seems like the spiritual journey is
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accelerated here. And I don't know how to describe that,
but that's just what it feels like. And there's a
lot of positive energy here.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Absolutely, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay, back to the real Well, you've done a deep
dive into this, you've studied it. What else can you
tell us about it?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
So something, A number of things, something, And we're working
with two diaries here, the original diary from the German scientist,
then another diary. It's a whole o the story. It's
really hard a long time to explain. Yes, that is
the that's the one I'm referring to.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But with that diary was found within another set of
diaries from another man who spent forty years in the
shadow government, and when he was reviewing this diary, he
just thought it was strange. One of the notes that
he made was, I started to look at dates in
the sheets, rosters, schedules, maintenance reports, and all other kinds
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of supporting documents. Everything stopped on the same day, March eleventh,
nineteen forty five. What is so special about March eleventh,
nineteen forty five. Well, we have a he classified document,
a declassified document from the Air Force which anyone can
find online probably at this point, but it's listed in
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this book. And the document is a conversation between the Army,
Army personnel, Air Force personnel and wind feed Otto Schumann
and if anybody knows has heard of the Shuman residence,
this is the guy who discovered the Shuman residence. And
he discovered that because he was on the project when
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they got the first flying saucer.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
To power up.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
They built it, they still didn't understand how it worked,
and he was fascinated how it was where it was
drawing its energy from. He could not figure out where
it was drawing its energy from and it inspired him
to research that and look into that and investigate it,
and that's where he discovered the Earth was resonating at
a specific frequency seven eighty three hertz and it was
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named after him. So it was because of the German
flying Saucer program that he even discovered the Human residence.
Interestingly enough, this guy, he wasn't the greatest guy when
you read about him, like, we would not like him
today if he was in our government. And I find
it interesting that we still tie his name to the
Struman residence because he was not for humanity.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I'll just say that him now, right right exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
But we have him to thank for discovering it, help
us helping us discover it. But okay, so this is
from a declassified Army Air Force document from that came
from Right Parison Base Right Patterson Army Air Force Base
in Dayton, Ohio, nineteen sixty eight, August twenty seventh, and
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it says neither of the original Army then the newly
formed Air Force officers that interviewed the subject. They're currently
on active duty with the services. So anybody who conducted
this interview aren't even alive to ask about the legitimacy
of this conversation, but nevertheless, here it is documented. But
there's one specific thing I wanted to warn a note.
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So the Air Force was basically just they were throwing
everything they had at him. You know, he was under
the spotlight on the hot seat, I guess you could say.
And they were asking him, what why, what was the
purpose of this flying saucer program? What did these women want?
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And he basically said to move people? And he said yes,
nineteen flights in three days, two two and sixty one
people in total each time. Seven seven was the nickname
for the craft they were using to get to El
Debor On. Each time it came back, it looked worse
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and worse, old, beaten like it had been through war.
We would have spent a few we would spend a
few hours repairing it as fast as we could.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Then we would send it again.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
In less than one hour, it was back, but our
downtime for repairs were getting longer and longer. We had
to learn that the life support we had learned that
the life support only had to last for forty minutes total.
We used a one off U boat to keep everyone
alive inside lithium hydroxide canisters and a ventilating system driven
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my fans whatever. So basically what they're saying is in
March eleventh, nineteen forty five, it actually took them three
days to do this. They moved two thousand, two hundred
and sixty one people off of planet Earth to back
to the planet Aldeborn through this craft. And the way
the craft is described, it's not traveling through space like
we think. It quite literally opens a portal in the sky,
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it pops to a time tunnel, and.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
It takes them.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
It took them virtually forty minutes to get to across
the galaxy. I remain light years away to get these
planet these people back, but it would it would be
forty minutes Earth time, but for them, it was like
one hundred years past. So every time the craft came back,
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it was looked like it had just been decades old
and destroyed. And it got so they were only able
to get nineteen flights out of it, and the last
twenty people. There was like virtually twenty people left that
had to go, and the craft never came back after
the nineteenth flight, so there's still twenty people left here
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of that airan race from that planet that basically just
had to stay here, and it's just super interesting. But
they're also in one of their own diaries, they also
talk about this very specifically, about how many trips it
would take. Whenever they were explaining to the German scientists,
they already knew that they were only going to get
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so many trips out of it before it expired, because
Earth at that time we didn't have the proper materials
to build a craft that could actually withstand the magnetic
the time field space.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Well, yeah, hundreds of years it would have been.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, so that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, and you know, if let me see, here's here's
what it. Let me see if I can find it. Well,
this is this is her explaining to one of the scientists.
We're gonna have We're only going to have one shot
to get this right. The fate of many civilizations depends
on this, and reality the fate of yours as well,
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but not at this point. The timeline is moving, and
there will be those that come after you that make
sure the same journey and and fight the same battles,
that make the same journey and fight the same battles,
just for different reasons. That they're connected. It goes She
goes on and on basically explaining how the universe works
and why this is important and that there isn't imposing
what they call Sumerian threat like the Alanachi Sumerians. According
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to her, they basically kind of like they were wardens.
They monitored all space air traffic coming and going from
not just our planet, but multiple planets. And this craft
in particular, was a way to basically fly under the
radar and leave the planet without this Sumerian stopping them,
because nobody was allowed to leave. The planet was quite
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literally being watched by the Sumerian race and whatever crafts
they were in, and they needed this time machine. Essentially
it looks like a flying saucer, but it's a time
machine that literally uses dimensional shift technology. It technically travels
in another dimension. This way it can't be detected. And
this is what they came up with to get off
(35:42):
the planet back home to their people. And it's just
a fascinating story. But there was something else that I
have all these notes, I can't even here's what here
it is right here I have, She says, I have
seven hundred and thirty six people that need to be
transported transported from here to there, nine trips in the craft.
By then it will be barely holding together because the
(36:03):
hull and the motor time on it will be measured
in centuries. So basically it took them three days to
do nineteen trips, but the craft experienced centuries of damage
because of the way time works in space according to
here compared to here. So, I mean, we have a
fascinating story in history. And you know, they left in
(36:25):
nineteen forty five, but the Germans still had access to
this technology and they kept developing these craft and so
they perfected it and they figured out, you know, they
left problems in it for them intentionally, so they wouldn't,
you know, keep they wanted them to just hit dead ends.
But they eventually broke through that and you know they
went down. You know you heard Operation high Jump. You know,
(36:47):
there was a whole there's a whole history of the
German flying saucer program which ended up with them going
to the Moon, even Mars. There's documents of that way
early on, way before the apoleomis.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah. Yeah, I know several people who said that they
worked on the Mars and Moon programs quite some time ago.
In the sixties and seventies, So yeah, there definitely has
been stuff going on there. But this also reminds me
that there have been a number of cases lately where
people have actually gotten video of what looks like a
(37:23):
portal opening. There's a flash, there's a white light, and
then an object comes out, some type of a craft,
maybe it's sauce search shape or something else or cube
or something like that, and it, I mean, it looks
like we are using that technology, or somebody is using
it on our planet. Some type of human group has
(37:47):
figured this out and they've perfected it and now they
are using it.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yeah, one hundred percent they I wish I knew where
it was in the book, but she says, basically, it's
the only practical.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Way to travel the universe.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Traveler Galaxy is literally to create travel through this portal
system to try and break through the atmosphere and go
on a long journey. She said, it would take It's possible,
but it would take you so long that by the
time you got to where you were going, you would
forget why you were even going there in the first place,
because it would be a whole new generation like it's
(38:21):
just would take that long. And actually today I just
saw an article that I shared about a proposed plan
for scientists unveiled design for a thirty six mile long
interstellar generationship that's capable of carrying twenty four hundred people
on a one way trip that Alpha Centauri. It would
take them four hundred years. And this is like, you know,
(38:45):
it's if all this stuff is true, you have to wonder,
like the people in this think tank that are coming
up with this plan for this craft are obviously left
in the dark about their actual technology that we have,
and this could be part of some narrative that just
want the public believing it's going to take us years
to get way of it, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And they probably really are going to use the other technology.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah, yeah, And according to you know, there's people that say,
that's actually kind of how we got to the Moon.
We use a technology similar to what I just described
when we did go, but the rocket roost was quite
literally the Dog and Pony show. But there's evidence here
that they did actually go to the Moon. I know
a lot of people think we didn't go because the
(39:28):
footage was faked. The footage was faked because they couldn't
reveal the technology, how they actually got there and it
wasn't in a rocket, the traditional rocket, you know.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
And it's all speculation. It's not like I can prove
any of this, but that's just what I've researched.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, when you think about it, they the media, you know, film,
We're talking about rockets in the nineteen thirties, in the twenties,
even in the in the movies. So this is old,
old idea technology and I've I've heard a lot, I've
heard a lot about this that that is not being
(40:05):
used and that would it would make sense if there
was something much more practical, faster, easier. And then of
course we have this evidence of wormholes and portals. And
I witness a portal myself a few years ago. I
was working on the book Winged Aliens, and I was
getting I was just finishing up the book and I
(40:29):
was sitting on my deck and I thought, I wonder
if these creatures, specifically Mothman and other types of entities
are coming in and going out through portals, because there's
never a body found. There's you never see one standing
in person in the middle of a crowd. Uh, none
(40:51):
of that. And so my answer came because I saw
a flash. This circle woke opened up. A believe it
or not, golden colored fairy flew across. Another portal opened
and she flew into it and they closed. That was
my answer. I mean, I was just thinking the question.
(41:13):
That just showed me, Yes, there are portals and they
can obviously be created. Last night I was doing a
meditation and I said how are portals created? And one
word came in thought.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Right, I thought so.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Actually that was the one thing that Germans couldn't understand.
There's no blueprints for the controls. They couldn't figure out, like,
how do you control this thing? And she explained that
right here you have asked each other the questions where
are the controls? There are none in the main craft.
It's an elevator of sort of sorts that works on
(41:52):
consciousness and thoughts. You just basically they had to learn
how to control it with their mind and the opening
the portal in particular, I don't know about that, but
to control of the craft. It was just a consciousness
space system. They didn't even understand, but they knew how
to use it because you know, they were taught. But
it's just just because you know how to use your
(42:14):
phone doesn't mean you know how it was built and.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
How it works right right exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
But one of the things I will say, so she
explains the dangers of time travel, and this is just
something I found very interesting. And this is I mean,
I recommend everybody to read it all. It's just full
of It's like meaning an anatomy book and trying to
memorize it in the first try, like you just can't.
But they said, using time compression with spaceflight is expected
(42:43):
and approved by other but basically spacefaring races. So using
time compression with spaceflight is expected and approved. Using it
by itself is a capital crime in the universe, meaning
creating a time machine that a human can go through,
(43:03):
or a device that just using it by itself without a ship,
without being authorized, it's a capital crime in the universe.
There are levels of control in the universe that have
been in place for millions of years. When a planet
reaches the point of understanding the nature of splitting the
atom and using that power, the first level set of
monitors is sent to start watch. So they send a
(43:26):
group of monitors to monitor to planet. Whenever we do that,
when rocket levels the atmosphere, when a rocket levels the atmosphere,
the next level comes into play. If the rocket has
sentient beings on board, that level is escalated. When someone
learns to move through time, a much bigger problem shows
up on their doorstep, and if they cannot defend their actions,
(43:47):
those systems are shut down, meaning defend your actions. Why
are you using time travel? It's all about control and
the hierarchy of the powers in the universe from the
local level, which normally is a planetary system, to the
quadrant of the galaxy, which is where the heavy hitters play.
And she's basically going on describing like it, the space
(44:09):
is not where we think like we think we're just
going to go out there and discover everything for the
first time. This is a millions year, million year old game,
millions of years old, you know. And there's already people
out there with their own space programs, you know, monitoring
the galaxy.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
So yeah, and here we are on Earth just trying
to convince people that there are such thing as non
human entities that are sentient beings an intelligent species. And
those of us who have been in the game for
a while absolutely know that that's true. But for a
(44:48):
lot of people, because look, this stuff isn't taught in school.
Nobody knows the truth unless they go digging for it
or run into a If they have a signing themselves,
are they an et walks in their yard, then they know,
But for the most part that doesn't occur. What are
(45:11):
your thoughts on why we don't have a constant disclosure
going on? Why aren't ets walking among us all over
the planet right now?
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Well, I would argue that maybe they are in some
cases in human form and we wouldn't recognize them. In fact,
that's what I've read a number of books. But and
sometimes you see people that don't quite fit in, but
you would never know unless you knew, right, I would
say as far as why we don't have active disclosure
is because the government doesn't like what they can't control.
(45:46):
And according to this material, the government is kind of
left out of the loop on a lot of these
black projects.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
They've created a shadow government that needs no congressional oversight,
meaning they just bypass the entire government entirely, and they're
creating these space programs and all these other things, and
these time travel devices with no congressional oversight, never having
to go through the president or anyone in Congress. They've
built their own shadow government that in fact is so powerful,
(46:15):
you know, the government, the traditional government that we understand,
has to bow down to them. And it's kind of
like this, you know, and there's this hierarchy of potentially
some form of alien overlords, you know, pulling the strings
on the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Who knows.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
But there's the reason we don't get that disclosure is
because the government isn't Actually they don't have their hands
on all of the truth. It's very compartmentalized, and a
lot of guys in these programs they've grush and everybody's
coming out. They do have bits and pieces of the puzzle,
and they're all telling they're sharing their testimony as they
understand it, but they don't have.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
The full picture.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
And I would argue, I would argue that nobody has
the full picture. So there's not one person that's going
to come out and give you the answers because they
quite literally don't don't know. They only understand the program
that they were read into, and that's it. And there's
a lot of blackmail, a lot of treason. People have
blood on their hands. They've been lying to us for
(47:11):
a decade our century now, and they're not going to
come out and tell on themselves. They're trying to disclose
this stuff, find a way to disclose this stuff without
telling on themselves, right. I mean, they're not going to
just because then we would have to question the integrity
of the military industrial complex, the government, everything that we've
learned to trust and give our power to. They don't
(47:34):
want to give up that power, so they're not going
to undermine themselves. They're trying to dance around it. And
suddenly this year we have all these breakthrough discoveries and
all these articles leaking that, oh, we found a way
to send a teleport an object, we found a way
to do this, we can elon. Musk is working on
a warp capable motor, they can travel, you know, all
(47:54):
this stuff. It's like, all of a sudden, somebody gave
him the green light to start leaking these articles and
these documents out. And I think it's just their way
of disclosing it without telling on themselves. They might their
hand might be forced at some point by extraterrestrials or
by a certain race that's just had enough of humans,
And we'll see maybe that's happening behind the scenes, but
(48:15):
I think the politics of it are quite quite complicated,
and a lot more complicated than most people can comprehend,
because we're talking about things that aren't supposed to exist,
and even inner dimensional politics. I mean, our government's working
cross dimensionally, and that's there's area whistleblowers that talk about
that too.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
It's a much bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah, and we'll probably never see the entire picture because
I think there are approximately seventeen different government agencies that
work on black ops programs, and they each are their compartmentalized.
Like you said, right now, I want to since we're
getting close on time, the twenty brill who were left behind,
(49:01):
Where are they now?
Speaker 3 (49:03):
That's a great question. So some of these, like Cigarin,
the lead woman, could live hundreds of years, that's just
her DNA. I don't know if these people live that
long as well. I would argue that they went back
to inner Earth. There's there's a narrative that after World
War Two, the Germans that didn't go off planet went
(49:25):
to either Argentina or Antarctica. Both have entrances to the
subterranean world, and it's all well documented. Depending on what
books you read and where you research it, and all
that stuff. But in my personal opinion, they did not
stay on the surface. They probably reunited with their brothers
and sisters and on the ground somewhere, but probably in Antarctica.
(49:46):
If I had to guess, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Going to say Argentina for Hitler, because there's a lot
of evidence that that's where you went.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
Yeah. Actually, that's that's you get to read about that here.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
In this book are available.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yeah, So after Sean died, the books just disappeared off
of Amazon, but his wife somehow got him back on
to Amazon, and so they're readily available now. But for
a minute there after he died, you were going to
pay one hundreds of dollars for one of these books
because people were selling them on eBay and stuff. And
(50:26):
like I said, this is like kind of blows the
lid on their whole cover story. And this is just
book six of what's going to be a nine book series.
Sean actually finished book eight and nine before he died,
but they weren't complete. So his wife is editing them
now and the book eight is going to be released
(50:47):
on in this fall, basically to continue it's a whole, long,
drawn out story of this man's forty year experience in
the Shadow Government. But only book six is a verbatim diary.
Now with within the other books there are documents and.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Actual you know you there, yeah, gotchach.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Within the other books there are documents and declassified stuff
and segments of the original diaries. But it's it's just
you really have to read it all to really get
the big picture. Once I started reading it, I was like,
oh my gosh, like all these it was answering all
these questions that were always just left hanging when we
when we watch these UFO programs and all this stuff,
and it was filling in so many blanks.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
For me, it was just a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
But you can get the books on Amazon right now,
Stands of Time or Mysterious or Strange Universe radio dot com.
You can get them directly from Shawn's wife. She'll mail
them to you personally, and so I can give you
that website.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Strange Universe Radio dot com.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
Okay, yeah, but what they say about Hitler in here
is so it documents like how basically his whole death
in his old diary and they claimed that he died
but was replaced by clone and there was a whole
cloning program that they discussed back then too, and one
(52:13):
letter was sent to Maria Orsik, who became basically Hitler's
like people don't know if they were dating or sleeping
together or what, but he became She became his personal
aid because she had the ability of foresight and she
had these psychic abilities, so he wouldn't make a decision
without going through her. She received a letter after he died,
(52:34):
but then he really wasn't dead because she was still
with him. It was a whole complicated story, but she
received a letter that said, pay attention to the differences
and that's all. It said, pay attention to the differences
and meaning within Hitler. So apparently, according to this material,
(52:55):
it's the clone that went to Argentina for whatever reason.
I don't know, Like, is you got to read it?
It's all right there, But yeah, sounds crazy, I know.
But there is a movie, The Boys from Brazil is
a movie. It was I forget what year came out.
The entire premise of the movie is about them trying
(53:17):
to clone Hitler and it's a whole program.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
And there was there was a guy named George Green.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
He's dead now, but he was a whistleblower on Project
Camelot with Carry Cassidy, and he came out and could
not stress enough. He goes, that movie is direct disclosure
of the cloning program, and they were trying to clone
Hitler and they might have done it, is what he said.
And so the boys from Brazil. If you want to
watch that movie, it basically talks about that. So if
(53:45):
they did successfully clone him, then maybe that's who went
to Antarctica. And I know this is getting wu but
I mean, our history in this planet isn't what we
think it is.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
So oh exactly. Now we've got X coming up in
September the twenty seventh, the twenty eighth. You are going
to be speaking. Do you want to tell us real
quick and about one minute what you're going to be
talking about.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Yeah, so I'm going to talk about my I've had
two recruitment attempts into these programs. One was very real,
tangible recruitment attempts by real people, not some like memory
I got back. There was one guy who was trying
to bring me into Mars program. I didn't believe it.
That was in twenty seventeen. I didn't even understand the
secret space program yet. This was before my whole awakening.
(54:33):
I'm going to tell that story. And then secondly, in
twenty twenty two, I had another man from the Navy.
He was a warrant warrant officer recruitment specialist and his
job was to recruit gifted star seeds into the programs
and he basically basically gave me a proposition. He proposed
(54:54):
a recruitment possibility for me. And there's a whole story
with that, And I'm just going to tell those two
stories and how real look out for me and what
I learned about the programs from that.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
So okay, well, that's going to be fascinating. Your talks
are always very interesting and thought provoking, and I appreciate
you coming on the show tonight, Tyler, to show your
information about they're real with us. I really have gone
down the rabbit hole on this. Now I'm going to
have to read all those books you've talked about, so
(55:26):
I guess I know what I'm going to be doing
the next three months. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (55:31):
I recommend that they're great reads.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
I mean it's such it's so captivating you almost binge
read them like you binge watch a Netflix series Like
I couldn't put them down, like I read the first
three books in one month, and they're like five hundred
page books, Like I could not stop. And then you know,
you get further along, and then you get the book six.
We're like, oh my god, Like if this is a
real diary, this needs to be a documentary, it needs
(55:54):
to be a movie. Everyone needs an old body. It
can't just stay in these pages. That's why I started
becoming so passionate about it, and people just need to know.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Oh boy, all right, thanks so much Tyler for coming
on and sharing that information with us this evening. I
appreciate it, and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
See you later.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Thank you, all right, goodbye, everybody, See you next here
next week, six pm Central Time,
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