April 5, 2025 • 10 mins
Special Report: A strangely shaped black UFO was observed by a witness who drove right underneath it. The object was very close to the road and less than 100' above the ground and two BlackHawk helicopters were chasing it. Margie Interviews the witness and the primary MUFON investigator working on this case. This case is under investigation.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is an INEX News special report. I'm your host,
Margie k and with me is Carl Harper. He is
an investigator for Missouri Moufon and he is working on
this particular case. And also our witness, Joe, who saw
(00:23):
something very very strange on March eleventh, at approximately four
point fifteen pm Central time. Joe, would you just give
us a synopsis of what it was you were doing
and what you saw.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It was just like any other day.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I was just driving home from work and on my
way home, I was coming past a Mayor Star right
where I love gas stations at and I saw two
black helicopters.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
They're a couple of.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hundred feet maybe three four hundred feet in there. It
looked like they're flying I remember south to north, So
I thought that was pretty cool. I don't usually see
those kind of helicopters in the area. And so I'm
driving and as I come over the bridge, that's when
I see this black object kind of about a mile
down the road, off to the side of the highway
(01:13):
a little bit. Yeah, it was about a mile down
the road, and so at the moment I couldn't figure
out what it was. I thought maybe it was another helicopter,
maybe a drone or something that got picked up by
the wind. I couldn't tell what it was. So as
I'm driving and kind of focusing on a little bit,
and I'm starting to come closer to the object, and
it just has not moved a slight bit at all,
(01:33):
just completely stationary, just sitting there, and I'm like, okay,
that's pretty unusual. So it was something that picked up
by there. I thought it would have moved by now
or something. And so I'm probably about at this point
a quarter mile to a half mile away from it,
and then that's when I realized it was just absolutely
something just completely like unordinary. It was just so stationary,
(01:55):
like unnaturally unstationary, like it was copied and paste there
in the air. It was kind of weird. That's like
the best way I can describe it is how perfectly
still this thing was. And I'm examining it and it
has absolutely no scenes or bolts or rivets, any creases.
(02:15):
It just looks almost organic, is the best way I
can describe it. So, so I've been doing a little
bit of research on it because I've just been trying
to figure out the shape of this thing and So
the best way I could describe it is, you know
the shape of a blood cell, Like how it's like
a circle with the concave in the middle. It had
that kind of pattern, like that shape, but it had
(02:37):
a hexagon kind of pattern on the outside. Yeah, like
that hexagon pattern, and it had no defining lines, and
the back end looked like it curved into itself. And
so I was just completely just flabbergasted. I didn't know
what to think of this, and I'm an open minded,
like critic, so like I used every bit of intuition
(02:59):
and criticism to try to like tell myself, this was
something that I just probably can't understand at the moment,
Like there has to be an explanation to this. So
I literally drive right under this thing. I look around
because I can't see it at this point anymore because
it's almost directly above me.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm driving.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I look down, look at the road and look at
the other drivers, and I can't really tell, but it
looked like I didn't see anybody else stop. I didn't
see anybody else, like, you know, completely in shock either.
So I'm like, maybe it's something I just don't understand
right now. And I'm like but it was so abnormal
it was hard to describe. It's just like once you
see it, you're like, my brain couldn't process what I
(03:36):
was looking at. And so I drive past the intersection
and I kind of look up at my mirrors and
I'm watching it in my mirrors, and I get about
another half mile down the road, and that's when I
see the two black helicopters that have obviously come around
and did a loop. And now we're coming from the
I would say east to the west, directly toward this thing.
So I was heading east, and so they were coming
(03:56):
directly at this thing, maybe a couple hundred feet above
where at altitude of what it was at, and I
was like, Okay, this is probably something, something definitely going
on here, like this is not a common thing for
a helicopter be this low flying and patterns like this.
I'm like, I definitely saw something, so I'm keeping track
of it in my mirror. I was going to do
a U turn at the next intersection with which was
(04:18):
about a mile down the road, and it's by the
FEDE exterminals, and I was about to do my U turn.
I'm keeping track of this thing the whole time. In
my mirror, and as soon as I'm like about to
do my U turn, I'm looking in my mirror, it's
just gone. I look down for one second, looked back
up and it was gone.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I do my U turn.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I come back to the area and I'm looking and
I see the helicopters have now flown maybe south west
a little bit towards the Missouri River, and the thing
was just gone. And I was like, what the hell
was that? What did I just see.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
This thing was?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And I guess I kind of did some research because
I was like, I'm trying to figure out the size
of this thing. And I kind of guessed the light
pole because I could tell it was between the two
light poles there were three before the intersection. It was
kind of floating between the two a little bit twenty
feet pound in side of the highway and the top
of that lighthole is about twenty feet across, and it
was probably another tenet of wider than that, So I'm
guessing about thirty feet.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's probably the size of it.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And then you called a friend of yours who was
able to get a picture of one of the helicopters.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Correct, No, So I did a couple of days later,
because I was just trying to figure out what was
going on. I was like, hey, you know, did you
see a helicopter in there? Because I used to work
over in that area, so I knew a buddy that
works over there. He was like, yeah, I got a
picture of it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Okay, So this is his picture that we're showing here.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
If you look at the time on that, you see
it was just before his siding. Just vigeants, ah, okay,
right right.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So as you're driving underneath this thing, how far away
from the vehicle do you think it was?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I mean, if I was standing on top of the
light that light pole, I probably could have thrown a
rock at it. So I'm guessing no more than a
hundred feet in the air. It was pretty low.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, this is a pretty unusual sighting as far as
sightings go, and we get a lot of them at
Missouri mofon. Carl, what did you do as part of
your investigations so far? Who have you contacted and what
information do you have about this?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
One of the first things I did was go to
online sources, the flight Radar twenty four site, and I
went back to that date and time. Matter of fact,
I watched radar for an hour before and an hour
after and to see if there was any aircraft that
popped up in that area, in particularly military. None showed,
(06:44):
of course, they may not have had their transponders on.
I did find two civilian aircraft that were flying in
the area. One was from the University of Missouri down
at Warrensburg, the pilot trading classes that they have there,
and I've sent a request for them to ask their
(07:05):
pilot instructors and students if any of them saw anything.
I've been trying to track down the other aircraft that
was in the area. I did send a request to
the FAA, and they reported that there was no reports
of any anything unusual in that area. The closest report
(07:27):
they had that day was Springfield.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, that's interesting that they would tell you first of all,
that there was something going on in Springfield, which is
now something else to look into, as Springfield is UFO
hotspot as well, Kansas City has been for quite some time.
But this is very unusual in that it was close
proximity and then the shape to be just this non
(07:55):
descript sort of of shape. Joe, what color was this thing?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
The best way I could describe it was. It was black.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was very very black, and it had like a
carbon fiber kind of black to it. That's the best
color I can come up with. And I noticed that
the entire time I observed this thing while driving, I
never saw a like a reflection off of this thing,
like it never blared in the sun or anything. And
it was just perfectly sunny that day. There was not
(08:27):
a cloud in the sky.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's unusual as well to have no reflection of sunlight,
and especially at that time in the afternoon, the sun
would be low in the sky. So, Carl, when you
posted to social media, did you get any reaction from people?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I think we're riding around one hundred and twenty five
responses now and people living in the Auric area, which
is not too far away off of two ten and
all over to the Worlds of Fun all saw the helicopters.
But as if yet I have not got a second
reporting of the siding.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Well, we would ask that anybody who did see the helicopters,
or more specifically this object in the sky to please
report it at moofon dot com that's www. Dot mufo
and dot com and Carl Harper will be assigned to
that case and we'll add it to the information that
(09:31):
we have here. Joe, I want to thank you so
much for joining us. Is there anything else that you
want to add? Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
There was probably a dozen other cars on the highway
at the time, so I mean, I'm pretty sure somebody
else has had to have seen this thing, so it's
up to them if they want to come with it
or not. But it was unusually not busy at the
time for what time of day it was, but there
was definitely.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Other vehicles and a couple of semis on that road
at that time.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Rge, I think I've a better or a more central
location of where this happened. A Maristar on two ten
Highway up to the road that goes to the FedEx warehouse,
I think would be a right Joe, that that's pretty
much the area where this happened, and there's a lot
of traffic in that area normally.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, there most certainly is a lot of traffic. I
know that area. Well. Well, thank you both for joining
me this evening. I appreciate it, and hopefully we'll get
some more witnesses to this event because it is extremely strange.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, thank you both. Thank you, thank you
This is an INEX News special report. I'm your host,
Margie k and with me is Carl Harper. He is
an investigator for Missouri Moufon and he is working on
this particular case. And also our witness, Joe, who saw
(00:23):
something very very strange on March eleventh, at approximately four
point fifteen pm Central time. Joe, would you just give
us a synopsis of what it was you were doing
and what you saw.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It was just like any other day.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I was just driving home from work and on my
way home, I was coming past a Mayor Star right
where I love gas stations at and I saw two
black helicopters.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
They're a couple of.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hundred feet maybe three four hundred feet in there. It
looked like they're flying I remember south to north, So
I thought that was pretty cool. I don't usually see
those kind of helicopters in the area. And so I'm
driving and as I come over the bridge, that's when
I see this black object kind of about a mile
down the road, off to the side of the highway
(01:13):
a little bit. Yeah, it was about a mile down
the road, and so at the moment I couldn't figure
out what it was. I thought maybe it was another helicopter,
maybe a drone or something that got picked up by
the wind. I couldn't tell what it was. So as
I'm driving and kind of focusing on a little bit,
and I'm starting to come closer to the object, and
it just has not moved a slight bit at all,
(01:33):
just completely stationary, just sitting there, and I'm like, okay,
that's pretty unusual. So it was something that picked up
by there. I thought it would have moved by now
or something. And so I'm probably about at this point
a quarter mile to a half mile away from it,
and then that's when I realized it was just absolutely
something just completely like unordinary. It was just so stationary,
(01:55):
like unnaturally unstationary, like it was copied and paste there
in the air. It was kind of weird. That's like
the best way I can describe it is how perfectly
still this thing was. And I'm examining it and it
has absolutely no scenes or bolts or rivets, any creases.
(02:15):
It just looks almost organic, is the best way I
can describe it. So, so I've been doing a little
bit of research on it because I've just been trying
to figure out the shape of this thing and So
the best way I could describe it is, you know
the shape of a blood cell, Like how it's like
a circle with the concave in the middle. It had
that kind of pattern, like that shape, but it had
(02:37):
a hexagon kind of pattern on the outside. Yeah, like
that hexagon pattern, and it had no defining lines, and
the back end looked like it curved into itself. And
so I was just completely just flabbergasted. I didn't know
what to think of this, and I'm an open minded,
like critic, so like I used every bit of intuition
(02:59):
and criticism to try to like tell myself, this was
something that I just probably can't understand at the moment,
Like there has to be an explanation to this. So
I literally drive right under this thing. I look around
because I can't see it at this point anymore because
it's almost directly above me.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm driving.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I look down, look at the road and look at
the other drivers, and I can't really tell, but it
looked like I didn't see anybody else stop. I didn't
see anybody else, like, you know, completely in shock either.
So I'm like, maybe it's something I just don't understand
right now. And I'm like but it was so abnormal
it was hard to describe. It's just like once you
see it, you're like, my brain couldn't process what I
(03:36):
was looking at. And so I drive past the intersection
and I kind of look up at my mirrors and
I'm watching it in my mirrors, and I get about
another half mile down the road, and that's when I
see the two black helicopters that have obviously come around
and did a loop. And now we're coming from the
I would say east to the west, directly toward this thing.
So I was heading east, and so they were coming
(03:56):
directly at this thing, maybe a couple hundred feet above
where at altitude of what it was at, and I
was like, Okay, this is probably something, something definitely going
on here, like this is not a common thing for
a helicopter be this low flying and patterns like this.
I'm like, I definitely saw something, so I'm keeping track
of it in my mirror. I was going to do
a U turn at the next intersection with which was
(04:18):
about a mile down the road, and it's by the
FEDE exterminals, and I was about to do my U turn.
I'm keeping track of this thing the whole time. In
my mirror, and as soon as I'm like about to
do my U turn, I'm looking in my mirror, it's
just gone. I look down for one second, looked back
up and it was gone.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I do my U turn.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I come back to the area and I'm looking and
I see the helicopters have now flown maybe south west
a little bit towards the Missouri River, and the thing
was just gone. And I was like, what the hell
was that? What did I just see.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
This thing was?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And I guess I kind of did some research because
I was like, I'm trying to figure out the size
of this thing. And I kind of guessed the light
pole because I could tell it was between the two
light poles there were three before the intersection. It was
kind of floating between the two a little bit twenty
feet pound in side of the highway and the top
of that lighthole is about twenty feet across, and it
was probably another tenet of wider than that, So I'm
guessing about thirty feet.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's probably the size of it.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And then you called a friend of yours who was
able to get a picture of one of the helicopters.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Correct, No, So I did a couple of days later,
because I was just trying to figure out what was
going on. I was like, hey, you know, did you
see a helicopter in there? Because I used to work
over in that area, so I knew a buddy that
works over there. He was like, yeah, I got a
picture of it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Okay, So this is his picture that we're showing here.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
If you look at the time on that, you see
it was just before his siding. Just vigeants, ah, okay,
right right.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So as you're driving underneath this thing, how far away
from the vehicle do you think it was?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I mean, if I was standing on top of the
light that light pole, I probably could have thrown a
rock at it. So I'm guessing no more than a
hundred feet in the air. It was pretty low.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, this is a pretty unusual sighting as far as
sightings go, and we get a lot of them at
Missouri mofon. Carl, what did you do as part of
your investigations so far? Who have you contacted and what
information do you have about this?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
One of the first things I did was go to
online sources, the flight Radar twenty four site, and I
went back to that date and time. Matter of fact,
I watched radar for an hour before and an hour
after and to see if there was any aircraft that
popped up in that area, in particularly military. None showed,
(06:44):
of course, they may not have had their transponders on.
I did find two civilian aircraft that were flying in
the area. One was from the University of Missouri down
at Warrensburg, the pilot trading classes that they have there,
and I've sent a request for them to ask their
(07:05):
pilot instructors and students if any of them saw anything.
I've been trying to track down the other aircraft that
was in the area. I did send a request to
the FAA, and they reported that there was no reports
of any anything unusual in that area. The closest report
(07:27):
they had that day was Springfield.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, that's interesting that they would tell you first of all,
that there was something going on in Springfield, which is
now something else to look into, as Springfield is UFO
hotspot as well, Kansas City has been for quite some time.
But this is very unusual in that it was close
proximity and then the shape to be just this non
(07:55):
descript sort of of shape. Joe, what color was this thing?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
The best way I could describe it was. It was black.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It was very very black, and it had like a
carbon fiber kind of black to it. That's the best
color I can come up with. And I noticed that
the entire time I observed this thing while driving, I
never saw a like a reflection off of this thing,
like it never blared in the sun or anything. And
it was just perfectly sunny that day. There was not
(08:27):
a cloud in the sky.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's unusual as well to have no reflection of sunlight,
and especially at that time in the afternoon, the sun
would be low in the sky. So, Carl, when you
posted to social media, did you get any reaction from people?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I think we're riding around one hundred and twenty five
responses now and people living in the Auric area, which
is not too far away off of two ten and
all over to the Worlds of Fun all saw the helicopters.
But as if yet I have not got a second
reporting of the siding.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Well, we would ask that anybody who did see the helicopters,
or more specifically this object in the sky to please
report it at moofon dot com that's www. Dot mufo
and dot com and Carl Harper will be assigned to
that case and we'll add it to the information that
(09:31):
we have here. Joe, I want to thank you so
much for joining us. Is there anything else that you
want to add? Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
There was probably a dozen other cars on the highway
at the time, so I mean, I'm pretty sure somebody
else has had to have seen this thing, so it's
up to them if they want to come with it
or not. But it was unusually not busy at the
time for what time of day it was, but there
was definitely.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Other vehicles and a couple of semis on that road
at that time.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Rge, I think I've a better or a more central
location of where this happened. A Maristar on two ten
Highway up to the road that goes to the FedEx warehouse,
I think would be a right Joe, that that's pretty
much the area where this happened, and there's a lot
of traffic in that area normally.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, there most certainly is a lot of traffic. I
know that area. Well. Well, thank you both for joining
me this evening. I appreciate it, and hopefully we'll get
some more witnesses to this event because it is extremely strange.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, thank you both. Thank you, thank you
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