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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's time for the Unexed News News Extraterrestrials, time anomalies,
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and more more, your end of the week news source

(00:25):
for everything everything unexplained. Here is your host for the
unex News podcast, Margie K.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Good evening everyone, Welcome to unex News. I'm your host, MARGIEK,
and we are here every Friday evening at six pm
Central seven pm Eastern. I'm glad you could join me
this evening. As you may know, we have been having
some electronic issues at the X at both of our
studios and at our studio in Van Buren. The other

(01:16):
day a piece of equipment went out. We got it back,
so we are back on the air for all of
our radio shows. We're on all digital radio platforms including
Paranormal Talk Radio, Spotify and everything else, and this evening
we are on YouTube and Rumble. And my guest is

(01:37):
having some issues. She's not in here yet, but I'm
sure she will get that fixed pretty soon and we'll
have her in here this evening. My guest is Michelle
Marie Angel, and we are going to be discussing some
very interesting things that have happened to her and she's
had some guidance from Archangel Michael that is very interesting.

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And then she's going to be talking about her upcoming
workshop at the OZ Institute and unex Network. We have
teamed up to bring you some really good workshops, so
there are a lot already up. If you go to
unex network dot com slash workshops, so unex network dot

(02:20):
com slash Workshops, you will see a listing there of
multiple different workshops. One of our most recent ones is
by Kimberly Crale. She does the show Weeds of Wisdom
right here on the X and she has done an
excellent workshop for you. I am sure you're going to
be interested in it, but it's about medicinal herbs and

(02:44):
how to make your own medicine, so growing your own
herbs and plants and weeds and then creating your own
urbal medicine. It's a long workshop. I think the totals
around five hours, but it's in three parts and you
can take it at your own pace, so do check
that one out. Also, Michelle Marie Angel has a workshop

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that we're going to be presenting live next month it
was going to be tomorrow, but we push that back,
So do check that out as well on our workship
page on the X Network. I think you're going to
find that very interesting. It is titled the Awakening to
your True Self Identity, and she will explain how to

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find that. I will take comments and questions also. I'll
do quick psychic readings this evening, at least until we
get Michelle on here. If you would like me to
take a look at something, just drop a question in
the chat and I will be glad to help you.
So I see Fred is here. Hi, Fred, I hope

(03:53):
you're doing well this evening. See if you can think
of a question for me, and we'll get to that.
So all right, it looks like Michelle is here, so
I am going to introduce her and we'll get her
on here. Michelle Marie Angel is a She assists souls

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in their spiritual journey. She's an author, teacher, intuitive and visionary.
Michelle has had experience with education in public schools, corporate settings,
and in presenting educational seminars with original curriculum. Michelle's courses
have been inspired by deep regular meditation. She uses her
background in computer education to develop multimedia programs that incorporate

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color and images with the sound of her voice. She's
published three books that are deeply and beneficially impactful to
those who are on the ascending spiritual path of conscious
living and those are live, love, forever free and it
is a new world after all. Welcome to the program, Michelle.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Oh, thank you, thank you to fix my camera.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Here, so glad to have you on. Can you tilt
your camera down just a tad.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
More, Yes, yes, that would.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Be great, And there we go. I'm glad we've got
you in here. I was yay a any bit worried there
for a second. You scared me. All right. So you know,
you and I have been conversing for quite some time.
You've been on this program before, uh, but you've had
a lot of experiences, and tonight I'd like to focus

(05:33):
on some of your experiences. First of all, that had
to do with the Archangel Michael. What can you tell
us about that.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, I was actually teaching at a residential school in
Oregon and this was the first inner teacher kind of
experience that I had, and it was with Archangel Michael.
And so what happened was I was advocating for a

(06:04):
child who was being sort of abused in a way,
and she was abused in such a way that there
was somebody else, another student there, and she was bullying her,
pushing her, and so I thought I'd call a meeting
with the with the supervisor, and so I did do that,

(06:30):
and so when I had a meeting with the supervisor,
they sort of tried to discredit her because of the
fact that she was psychically connected to her grandmother who
had passed, and so I didn't I was not really
aware of that at that time, but they you know,

(06:55):
mentioned that, you know, there was something wrong with her,
because they thought that was you know, being psychic was
bad and like of the devil, that it was their
religious beliefs, I guess. And so I said, well, everybody
has intuition, you know, we all have that still small
voice within. And so they basically did not accept me

(07:24):
advocating for her, and they basically put me on leave
from that portion of residential teaching. I also went to
a boy's home, and so I continued with that part
of the teaching.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay, you said they put you on leave. How long
was your leave?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well permanent? Okay, because it was a temporary job. It
was just a summer job, and because in the fall
I was going to go, you know, teach at the
regular school system, So it was a summertime thing, okay.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
And what happened after that, Well.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I scheduled like a second meeting, and there was a
group of people from there and they were I was
trying to get information, and they were sort of you know,

(08:30):
there was a stone wall of information basically, and so
I knew the girl, who was, you know, an older teen,
had a lawyer, and so I asked for information from
the who the lawyer was, and they refused to give
it to me. So synchronistically, when I left that meeting,

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the student herself was outside by herself, which was very unusual.
But I mentioned to her that I had tried to
get the information for her attorney, and she said, oh,
I have it right here in my pocket, and she
handed me the card. So I thought, oh, I'm supposed
to have this. So a lot of synchronicities kept happening.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
How do you think Archangel Michael might have been involved
in that.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well, there was an inner knowing that this was a
inner teaching, and I label it in the moment guidance
and so I ended up ultimately, I went up to
the regional supervisor or regional director of this whole organization

(09:48):
and had a meeting with the supervisor higher ups. It
was like going up the ladder, up the ladder until
I was at basically the top for our region. And
so I was being guided through this whole ordeal. And
of course it lasted, you know, meeting after meeting, and
you know, time after time while I was there and

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then after I was gone, as far as you know,
being guided what to do and who to call and
to set up meetings. And I did, in fact called
Child Protective Services, and I also called her attorney and
got advice from both of those organizations in person. So

(10:31):
when I went to the meeting with the highest regional director,
I was in the meeting, and this is when I
needed in the moment guidance I had asked for. Should
I tell them that I called CPS and talk to
the attorney and I heard full disclosure, And so I

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did say that, and as well, I was basically guide
to say, I am really here for this girl's welfare.
I don't care anything about my job if I lose it,
I'm here, I'm going to advocate with her for her
no matter what, and so they've changed their tune and

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then ultimately by the time the process was over, it
was almost time for her to be released because for age.
So it turned out to be sort of a lesson
in the moment guidance, that's what I call it, and
so I have used that also when I work with groups.

(11:38):
I do group meditations, group visionings, and I feel like
I get guided to guide or get guided to facilitate
in the moment, depending on you know, who's in the room.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Do you regularly work with Archangel Michael?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I do, and I had uh, I had some validation
and confirmation because I had a I had my own
reading with someone who's a you know, fifth generational medium
from Scotland and she said, Michael, Archangel Michael came through

(12:21):
and so I had a third party, you know, witness
and she said he's here and he said he's been
working with you. Yeah. Do you.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
When you get messages do you hear his voice speaking?
How does that work?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's like telepathy, but it's like an inner knowing.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
So you just instantly know the answer to a problem.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yes, and.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
You might not hear a voice.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well, but including specific words. I mean I do have
clear audience and I hear specific words. Yes, I get
words and images and knowing. So the sentient clairvoyance and
clare audience.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Do you think everybody has these abilities to one extent
or another.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yeah. In fact, I have an
intuitive Guidance and development class at a metaphysical store near
my house, and I work with groups to bring out
people's intuition just by application. You know, we're going to
start reading each other and anything that comes to you,

(13:40):
you know, trust that, and so we have been doing that.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yes, you know, I think a lot of people they'll
say something like, oh, I could never do that, and
that's because they've never tried. They just exactly they can't
do it, and and it's a matter of you know,
attempting it.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I've invited people to try and give me readings, and
I remember this one friend of mine. I said, just
write down a paragraph of anything that you that comes
to you. And it was our first time ever, and
it was spot on. It was really spot on. It
was really good.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, that's that's a lot of fun. When people realize
that they've got a talent that they didn't know they
had before. Yeah, Oh my goodness, you and I have
a lot of common as we know, we're both intuitives, psychics,
remote viewers I had. I've found that once a person

(14:44):
gets correct answers, they have a tendency. Some people have
a tendency to become dependent on a psychic. Has that
happened to you?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
No, it does not. And I have told people I'm
not telling you anything you don't already know at the
soul level, you know you have this information. This is
more like validation, confirmation and maybe feeling in you know
some details, or having another perspective mm hm.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
And we've got Brooke Michelle and here she suys happened
at half of it is believing you can't Yes.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yes, that's true.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I say that is true as well. The UH before
you came on, Michelle, I offered our our watchers and
our listeners the chance to join us in the chat
in YouTube and UH ask questions. So I thought it'd
be fun if anybody has a question about something, either

(15:47):
one or both of us would answer UH. Let's see
what we get. So that might be kind of fun.
So we'll see what happens there during this live show.
Right now that we're having. If anybody has a question,
you can pop it in in the chat and we'll

(16:07):
see what we can do to help you. Now, when
you do readings, do you use any props or anything
like cards or stones or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yes, I do, but not always. Sometimes I just get
out a pad of paper and write whatever comes to me.
And sometimes I get out some paper and write what
comes to me first, and then I do cards. I
have angel cards. I have Archangel Michael cars, archangel cards,

(16:43):
fairies and mermaids, goddess cards. And I also have alchemy stones.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Oh tell us what alchemy stones are.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Alchemy stones are like the symbols of the of the
things that are used in alchemy and so and then
there's a book that goes with it. So you just
look up what the symbol is and and then you
read it. There's like the al chemical uh, you know

(17:15):
what it is like. For example, it could be venus,
it could be mercury, it could be salt, it could
be you know, a metal or something like that, and
it talks about where you are in this alchemical process,
but in terms of your consciousness and in terms of
your life. And so when I do readings, what I
like what I glean from all of that, From what

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I say, or I mean, what I get directly without
anything at all to the cards and the stones or
whatever I use, it comes up with themes. The same
themes come up in what I get directly from the
cards or stones. And then you know, as I'm doing

(17:58):
the reading with the other bits the cards and the stones,
then I'm I still get more, I still get more
straight intuition. So I'm always writing. I write down, you know,
what card they get, what stone they get, the message
from that, and then the message that continues from within
my intuition, and it has. It has really I've had

(18:22):
really good feedback.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
When you do a reading for someone, do you do
them in person or on zoom or how does that work?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Either one, I do them in person, and I've done
them on zoom. Yes, Okay, I'm trying to fix my lighting.
I actually have some extra lights here that aren't working,
and I'm wondering why because they're like two of them
right here.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, you're a little dark on one side. Yeah,
if you if you tilt your camera back the way
it was a minute ago. Uh, now, not not that
way the other way. Nope, just go back the other way.
Now we've got some light on you. Okay, you're there,
I'm here. Yeah. Do you ever run across I know

(19:08):
you've done a lot of readings for people. Do you
ever run across the situation where they have blocked themselves
so much you can't get through and just can't penetrate that.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
I've never had that.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Okay, Yeah, I ran into one one really in my
entire life. Yes, and he simply did not want me
to see anything.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well, I did have a gentleman that said that he
didn't believe in this stuff, that he was going to
try it anyway. And then after I gave him the reading,
he said, you made me a believer.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
And then I like to read people that I don't
know because I like to come from the place of
a clean slate and not knowing. But one time a
friend of mine wanted me to give her a reading
and I and you know, I did because she wanted
me to, and she was a very good friend, and
I thought I knew everything about her, but things came
through that I did not know, and and she did

(20:09):
know and could validate.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I agree with you on that point. I love to
do readings or I prefer people I don't know, because
it is a clean slate. It's easier to see see
and you're you don't have any bias or you know,
you don't know something in advance. It's no, it seems
to work better that way.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, it just comes in purely. And there was somebody
that I just met, like the day before, and I
gave her a reading. It was I met her on
a Sunday and I gave her reading on a Monday.
And this was the first time. And I, you know,
we keep discovering our gifts and and nuances and details
about them. And so this time when I went to

(20:55):
do the you know, clear audience, just you know, write
it down, I heard tell her I love tell her,
I love her, And I told the voice, I said,
I will tell her, but not just write this minute,
because you could tell the soul was very excited, and
so I wrote it down. And then you know, when

(21:16):
the souls come through, they have different ways of communicating,
and so this was very cute the way he communicated.
I start hearing tiptoes through the tulips, tiny Tim Tim.
That's how he gave me his name.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Oh oh yeah, that's different.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
And then and then I saw images of these waxy
leaves and then a lemon, and then I got lemon tree.
And I wrote that down and so I, you know,
I say, I don't censor. I just you know, write
down what I get, what images or whatever, and it
sort of flips goes like a stream of consciousness from there,

(21:58):
like when you're tuned in. It just you know, the
information keeps flowing anyway, So I put all that aside,
and then I read her cards and everything, and then
I picked up the portion that I was receiving direct
and I said, do you know anybody named Tim? And
she said yes, that was my ex fiance he passed

(22:20):
three years ago. Uh huh, I said, well he was
showing me a lemon tree. She said, yes, that was
our favorite restaurant. Uh huh mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
That is awesome how that works. Yeah, we do have
a question. This one looks a little heavy, but we're
gonna go ahead and try this from Brooke Michelle. She says,
I have a personal question, what is happening with my
chest area pain? I want to tackle that one.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Well, I will attempt it, but I feel like I
know what your gifts are, and you're specifically sort of
like a medical intuitive. You can see the body and
stuff like that. I can try, but I've never I've
never tried something like that.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Okay, what I'm getting is stress anxiety. I'm not seeing
a problem with the heart, Brooke, Okay, but I'm seeing
that there is an undue amount of stress. So I
would do something calming, drink some Camo meal tea or
something like that. Okay, see it, See how that works

(23:37):
for you, and oh, here we go. Stella says, I've
had a couple of readings with Michelle and I was
very impressed. She went way back and was able to
tune into an ancestor and my connection with her. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Thank you, Stella, Thank you Stella.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Okay, and Colleen says, Hi, Michelle, Oh, I love seeing
you on the show. I just made a big move.
I'm wondering if I if you can do a reading
for me. I would love to know if you see
anything around work and love. Okay, just a real quickie there,
if you'd like to look at that.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yes, what I'm seeing is like a connect the dot
thing and being on a path and that you're walking
down this path and things just happen naturally and organically
and seamlessly, like you made the move and you are
in the right place, Like you've come into alignment with

(24:37):
that move, and you're in the right place. And you
keep moving forward, you'll be inspired, you'll be guided, you'll
be led. You're on the right path. You can't miss
the landmarks. You can't miss the landmarks. You can't miss
the doors that open you know, around work and love

(24:57):
and your heart. I'm just seeing your heart navigating, and
you're navigating from your heart, and it lights up when
something is for your highest good and is meant to
be and it's already really part of your soul's blueprint.
So you're on the path. It's going to happen organically
in divine timing. And I'm also seeing just relax and

(25:22):
practice self love, and it's a really good time for
yourself and being in nature and loving yourself and getting acclimated,
because when you move, there's always adjustment time and grounding.
I see you going to a park and walking on
grass and grounding and connecting with nature and just taking

(25:45):
a whole lot of deep breasts as if a big
burden has been lifted. I'm feeling like a big burden
has been lifted and you are going to be more
floaty and less way down and more expanded and so
easier to see. It's like having the brights on instead

(26:07):
of just your regular headlights. I'm just seeing you see
more and perceive more on your path.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay, thank you so much for that. We are up
on a break and we'll be back right after these messages.

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Speaker 2 (28:57):
And we're back on merchie K and we're here this
evening with Michelle Marie Angel talking about a lot of
fun stuff and we've we've actually opened up the chat
to questions, So, uh, if you would like to tackle
another one or two of these, we've got to question
from Sea Grape. Would love to know if you see

(29:19):
future awesomeness ahead in this transition.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
The overall transition of humanity ascending.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yes, you're gonna have to let us know. Do we
mean you and individually or the overall humanity. We're gonna
We're gonna let them ponder that for just a minute.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
But I will say I do see super awesomeness and
creative freedom, like a renaissance and creative freedom and an
opening and a deepening of soul perception and awareness and
abilities and empowerment. So I see absolute awe. I think

(30:01):
people are sharing experiences like having lucid dreams, and the
perceptions and the telepathy increasing. I've had it myself with
my mother. It seems like we had a conversation before
we even picked up the phone, and we wanted to
know where to go, what to do, and where to

(30:22):
and where to go eat, and so we had these
specific things all worked out before we ever picked up
the phone and spoke to each other, and so it
was just you know, snap, snap, snap, agreement, agreement, agreement.
That's the same thing I was thinking, All.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Right, that sounds really good. We've got a question from Fred.
This is pretty heavy. Have I been programmed and involved
with these MK Ultra boys as if part of the
secret space program? What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
What I'm really getting The first word I got was intermediate,
because we're all programmed to some extent. You're not like
the Supreme programmed, really terribly used secret space program. But

(31:21):
I feel like you've had a larger degree than other people,
you know, since we do have that. You know, there's
ways that they program, like the masses, so it's beyond
that I feel like with you, but I feel some
either resistance or protection or something that prevented you from going,

(31:43):
like as much as they would have liked to have
used you or programmed you, some kind of protection, does
that make sense, or something that stopped from going all
the way.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, Michelle, I'm I'm seeing that he actually put this
bubble of protection up around himself and they can't get
through that anymore. And I think Fred will agree with that.
I know him, and so I know that that's correct.
So Okay, when Michelle was giving the reading, I saw

(32:17):
being to her left moving her hands up and down
in a sort of wave towards her. That's from Brooke, Michelle.
Did you feel that or since that?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
No, I was not putting my attention in that direction.
But as soon as you said that, though, Oh my goodness,
Oh my goodness. Now I'm getting chills. As soon as
you said that, I thought Desra, and Desra was a
friend of mine and she was the one that I

(32:47):
had mentioned. I told her to give me a reading,
and she did and it was perfect and spot on.
At that time, she was not in spirit, but right
now she is in spirit.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, deserraise with you right now.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Then.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Interesting question from Belinda James. Do you have a message
from my mom, who transitioned last year regarding the difficulties
I'm enduring and will everything work out for the greater
good next month?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Well, first of all, I'm just saying I'm feeling right
now that your mom is with you, because in my
heart when I get people from the other side, I
feel like their love and their energy and my heart,
and so I feel this deep love and concern for
you and that she is with you. Let me see

(33:47):
about difficulties I'm in enduring. She is with you, and
this is your path and she can help you to
an extent. But it's kind of like if she did

(34:11):
all your homework, you wouldn't learn the lessons, and so
there's certain things that you're doing on your own and
it is strengthening you, and it's a catalyst to bring
out your skills and qualities and talents and virtues, and
it will most certainly work out for the greater good.
Just keep connected within and thank her for her love

(34:37):
and her presence, because she is there, caring, and she's
like a cheerleader rooting you forward. And you do have
the energy and the strength and the inner empowerment from
your soul to get through all of it.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Okay, awesome. We do have some more questions, but I
we'll get back to that in just a minute. I
really want to talk about your upcoming workshop that we're
doing here next month on Well, it's the OZ Institute
Combination and X Network that's hosting it, and it's going

(35:13):
to be on August the sixteenth or twenty third.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Not fifteen. I think you said August fifteenth.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I think, well that's a Friday, so it have to
be at sixteenth, right, And the information will be on
our website at anexnetwork dot com on the workshop's page.
But why don't you give us a little teaser and
tell us about that.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Okay, Well, I there's some fundamental things that we all
need to hear and know about to get to know
our true self. First of all, it's like the comparison
of what we thought we were to who we really are.
And so I have some fun stuff. I have some

(35:58):
presentations and poems and and I really have a fun
way of speaking to your soul directly. So these are
high vibrational messages. And there are also messages that are
in such simple language it's even a young person, you know,
could understand. And one of the types of books has

(36:20):
called Stories for Wakened Awareness, and it's like a spiritual
Doctor Seuss, but it's very profound and impactful. So we
have some inner questions with some you know, little journal
spaces and the PDF that you get when you sign
up for the class, and it really helps you to

(36:41):
go deep and make a shift, a permanent shift.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Well that sounds awesome, and I know I'm looking forward
to it. I'll be facilitating that. And so if people
want to sign up, they can do that on the
website and the cost is forty five dollars for that,
so you can sign up pretty soon, we'll say tomorrow.

(37:07):
It's for me to get everything straightened up in order
for people to do that. So let's let's just get
back for a moment. And by the way, I should
also mention that Michelle has got a number of workshops
that you will be adding to the list that we
will put on the ODZ Institute and Annexed Network and

(37:32):
as well as many others from some other people that
are coming very soon. So I think you're gonna just
love that. Let's go back to our questions for a moment,
unless you have anything else you want to add to that.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Oh, I was just going to say a lot of
people wonder about their life purpose, and one of the
upcoming workshops is going to be about discovering your life purpose,
getting details on your life purpose and your next step larity.
So we make mission statements and you know, get a
vision and really delve in a lot of self reflection

(38:08):
and self discovery that is very fruitful and life changing.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
You know. That is something that's a question that I
get a lot. People really want to know what their
life purpose is. And I think if they had some methods,
some ways that they can access that information for themselves,
it would be the ideal situation.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Well, I have activities, and not only that, but I
combine my intuition with these activities and it'll just pop in.
For example, I was teaching high school one time, doing
a career class, and students were in high school trying
to determine what their careers were going to be. And
one girl was at a loss and I said, you

(38:57):
like working with children, don't you, And she goes, yeah,
how'd you know that? And anyway, it gave her a
starting point.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I should also mention now that I've got this scrolling
at the bottom, that you are going to be a
presenter at x Con this year September the twenty seventh
and twenty eight and we've got a lot of great
speakers for that. The tickets are available as well, and
there's more information on the unexcent Work website about that

(39:29):
event and Michelle's talk, which is going to be awesome.
I know that. Okay, we've got a serious question from
Sea Grape. Mike, Well, I meet again my little missing

(39:50):
sister of thirty seven years.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh? Absolutely, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Is that going to come in spirit or in physical body?
Do you think?

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Oh, I'm getting spirit? Okay, But you know you can
connect at any time, you can start speaking to her soul.
I mean, this is one of the things that we
can do just you know, think of her, think of
your love for her, and start speaking to her. And
I realized it just came to me that I could

(40:26):
do it, and I start doing it, and I speak
to people's soul when it's not possible to speak to
them in person. For example, one time was a young
friend of mine was in a coma, and I spoke
to her soul. And sometimes you are sort of on
a different wavelength than someone else, and you can speak

(40:48):
to their soul. And sometimes you can use like a
surrogate and just put out a pillow and pretend you're
speaking to them that way, but they do hear you.
I mean, I had confirmation of that when I was
speaking to my friend they had the coma, because when
she came out of it, she thought I came to
visit her, and I did not come to visit her physically,

(41:10):
but she recognized the fact that I was there.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Okay, And I took a look at this as well,
and I saw a line going directly to the mid
part of California. So I'm not sure exactly what that
means without going into deep meditative trans but that's what
I saw immediately. Okay. Another question this is Brian and

(41:39):
Judy from Move On. Judy's wondering what's going on with
her pacemaker and her heart. Hmm, okay, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Actually, what I got right away was like, you know,
it's interfering now and she doesn't need it. That's what
came to me. It's almost like she has the strength
and the uh. It's like when you can take training
wheels off. So that's just what I got right away.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Okay, interesting question. Dear Archangel Michael seems to visit many
Why not me?

Speaker 3 (42:28):
You can speak to Archangel Michael. He really is here
for the planet, and he's never It's not like humans
where he can only put his attention in, you know,
one place at a time. You know, he has cosmic
consciousness and there is no time anyway. Everything's in the
eternal moment of now. So as long as you call

(42:50):
him in and you know, send your love and gratitude.
And I actually just heard Archangel Michael is with you now.
Sometimes it's just a matter of recognizing it and saying
hello and realize it's a soul perception. It's deep down

(43:12):
in the heart. It's not just the same communication as
the three D communication.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
What is the difference between three D communication and five
D communication.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Five D communication is more heart centered heart intelligence. It's expanded,
it's deeper, it's based on vibrational frequency, and you can
feel it. It's kind of like if somebody is sitting
there lying to your face, and inside your heart you're saying,

(43:55):
that doesn't feel right. I'm being deceived and you start
getting that discernment, and so it really is from the heart.
And also that saying from the Bible be still and
know when you're still, and you practice meditation, you developed
that soul perception and the soul hearing and the soul

(44:21):
listening and the soul knowing, which everybody has it. Everybody
has it. It's just tuning in, developing it, recognizing it.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I agree, Michelle. How did all of this come to you?
Did you start out as being an accomplished psychic when
you were very young or did you develop your gifts
as you went along.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Every once in a while I would I would get
messages or know something, and it I just sort of
skipped over and didn't think about it. But I wanted to.
I wanted to develop my intuition. So I actually about
thirty years ago, I got a deck of tarot cards,

(45:09):
and I started giving people free readings, and I realized,
instead of just having to read the message, which is
how I started out, that stuff would just come in
and through and expand upon or show which parts were
significant for that person. So I did a lot of
free readings for a long time, and I did a

(45:32):
lot of writing, and I didn't understand that I was,
you know, connected to other realms or you know, other frequencies,
and until I had some experiences that showed me that.
For example, I was at a RV doing some writing
and somebody was blowing leaves or mowing the lawn or

(45:56):
making some big noise outside, and I thought, I can't
hear when you're doing that. And then I realized, wait
a minute, I'm listening. I'm getting I'm receiving a transmission here,
you know, and they interfered with the signal or something,
you know, I couldn't it wasn't as audible or you know,
that noise was louder than what I was getting from

(46:17):
the inside. So that was one thing. And then another
way that I knew I was channeling. I guess that's
the word that's being used, but there's you know, telepathic receiving,
there's channeling, there's a lot of different words for the
same thing. But I do know that one time I

(46:38):
wasn't sitting down purposely to write down a message, and
I was packing to get ready to go somewhere, and
I kept hearing these words. They were very sweet, very sweet,
Oh my goodness. And it was a poem and it
was called your gift is your Presence. And it was
like the Greater Self or Higher Self or cosmic galactic

(47:01):
beings saying, you know, we're all the same, and we're
all one, and you know we love you just the
way you are, and you are made of me, and
I am made of you, and and so. But I was,
I was writing down these exact words, and I was
trying to pack to get ready to go, but the
words kept coming, so I kept interrupting my packing and
writing down, and then I got the whole poem and

(47:24):
I ended up publishing it actually in my book Forever Free,
Forever Free, Sole Liberation with the Holy Spirit of Truth.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
That's pretty awesome, and that triggered something in me. I've
had several occasions where I've received messages in rhyming or
a short poem and I've never heard of anyone else
that had that happen. So thank you for sharing that.
That's something I didn't know about you. And there's another

(48:00):
another thing we have in common. I found it to
be quite quite odd.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
And it's interesting that it's very very clear when it
comes through. It's as if I'm standing right next to
a person talking. Is that how it is for you?

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Oh? Yes, it can it again, It can be like
just in the moment, flowing through like a stream of consciousness,
you know. In fact, I was asked to speak at
a unity church one time. The pastor was going on vacation,
and I never put myself out there to speak at
a church, but she had read the manuscript of my

(48:41):
book It is a New World after all, and I
guess that she thought I had enough knowledge or spiritual
wisdom to address the congregation. And so I said yes
with trepidation. And so before before I went to I,

(49:01):
you know, there was a topic and I was given
a few lines, and I did not have an outline.
I did not have the whole thing planned, but I
was given the first few lines, and so I got
up there and I said the first few lines and
the rest of it just kept flowing and flowing, and
then I started learning to trust that process. As long
as I have the first few lines, the rest will flow.

(49:24):
And it turned out to be really it turned out great,
and I had people say you're a natural. But you know,
I sort of trust if I'm being asked to do
something that I can do it, and I've been given
that confidence even when I do things for the first time.

(49:45):
For example, one girl told me, I do aura healings.
Sometimes I've never charged for It's just something I do
when it comes up, and sometimes readings come through at
the same time. But this one girl told me, my
guides told me that you could do a remote healing
and that I'm supposed to pay you four hundred dollars.

(50:07):
I said, really, I'd never done a remote healing before.
I said, I will do the remote healing, but do
not send me the money unless it works. So I
did it well, I mean, it was a first. So
I did the remote healing and she sent me the
four hundred dollars, and I thought, well, this is great.

(50:31):
I had wanted to go to Mount Shasta to go
to a retreat with Susan Shumsky, so that's what I
did with it.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
That's awesome. That is awesome. Speaking of Mount Shasta, what
is it about that place that makes it so special?

Speaker 3 (50:52):
It's like you're between worlds. I've been camping on Mount
Shasta and I've gone to the top many times, and
I've gone to retreats. It was only like an hour
and fifteen minutes from where I lived, so I went
there quite often, and I plan on going there again.
I just spoke to a friend of mine who lives
in California and was on her way to Mount Shasta,
and I said I'd visit soon. But the they have

(51:16):
crystal shops and a lot of spiritual people there. And
if you think about a collective consciousness in the group
of people that are you know, drawn there, the people
that are there that are you know, in Inner Earth,
like the Tee Los and Inner Earth people. Saint Jermaine

(51:37):
has you know, shown been appeared to people there. I
have felt the connection with Saint Germain there before and
in action, and actually here once he came through in
a reading for someone. But yes, yes, it's just it's
almost like like right now the veil is thinning for
all of humanity and for planet Earth because the ascension.

(52:01):
But there it's like the veil is thinner, and like
if you do a group consciousness with somebody or excuse me,
group meditation, everybody gets elevated together. And so the collective
consciousness of that area, it's like a morphogenic field. It's
at a higher vibrational frequency.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah. I have only been able to visit it by
remote viewing. It's sending my etheric body out or my
astral body, and it is like walking into another realm.
I'd sense, you know, I agree with what you were
saying about that you can feel it's in another dimension.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, the vibration is very high, very high. Yes, it's
places like that that I think help people on their
spiritual path and would be it would be worth a visit,
let's put it that way. Definitely worth a visit. Yes,
And you know there are places around portals, hotspots vortexa's

(53:12):
that where a person can go to get their you know,
vibratory rate increased. We oh, yeah, we only have a
few more minutes unfortunately. So how can people get a
hold of your books?

Speaker 3 (53:27):
My primary website is www. Smile number four love dot com.
There it is on the yes, and my email is
Michelle at Smile for Love dot com. You can send
me an email and then Smile Soul Power is my
YouTube channel and rumble channel.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Okay, and so you're still available to do readings for people, correct, Yes, okay,
that's awesome. And I'm really looking forward to the workshop
coming up up and you're multiple workshops that will be
adding to the series as well, and of course x Con.

(54:07):
You're talking x Con in September.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
So yes, that's going to be exciting because I've I've
been an activist, you know, I sort of have this
light warrior feeling inside of me, and so I've done
I've done a lot of educational activism and so I
have a lot of personal experiences to share about that.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
All right, Okay, got a just a comment here, and
I'm going to say, Christine, why don't you contact Michelle
directly and and if needed, you can contact me after that.
We'll just see how that goes. Be glad to help
where we can. Yes, all right, thank you so much

(54:56):
for being on the program again, Margielle, and and I'm
looking forward to speaking with you in the near future. Yes, okay,
all right, that is it for another show. Uh, do
join us at unexnetwork dot com and uh, you know,
get a free or a paid membership with perks. And

(55:19):
this is Margie K. We'll see you again next week.
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