June 28, 2024 • 57 mins
My guest Christopher Jordan composes instrumental music incorporating everything from frequencies from within the solar system, to binaural beats, and even brainwave frequencies. His soothing and calming music is designed to help listeners relax and each track is designed to be used as a tool for meditation, and to help listeners reach deeper levels of relaxation and self-exploration. Creating music and soundscapes, Christopher’s unique compositions have been used as background music for meditation albums, corporate events, as well as a unique series of meditation videos. With his compositions ranging from meditation and frequency therapy to avant-garde, and even electronic/lo-fi in his incarnation as the artist No Disassamble. Christopher is the host of the Curious Realm, a podcast that explores interesting and unusual topics related to science, technology, history and culture. Christopher creates informative and entertaining episodes that delve into various topics such as ancient civilizations, conspiracy theories, and futuristic technologies, interviewing experts, and exploring these topics in greater depth. Known for his engaging presentation style, making complex topics accessible to a wide and ranging audience. He also hosts the Talking Sound podcast, providing coverage of the best of analog and digital technologies in the field of audio and video production as well as application of these technologies in the field and the studio. Christopher is also the founder and head of the HC Universal Network, a network providing distribution for podcasts of varying genres. A live audio/video engineer for over 20 years, Christopher is the owner of HC Productions in Austin, TX providing audio/video technicians for corporate events as well as audio/video editing and custom content creation. Be sure to subscribe to the Un-X Network Youtube Channel so you don't miss a show! Join the Un-X Network at www.unxnetwork.com
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It's time for the Unexed News News. Extraterrestrials, time anomalies, dimension dimensions,
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Here is your host for the unexNews podcast, Margie K. Good
evening, everyone, time Margie Kand this is unex News. We're here
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every Friday evening right here on theKU n XDB network. I have a
really good show for you tonight.I can't wait to talk to my guest,
but I do want to mention acouple of things. First, don't
miss the move On Symposium coming upin Texas in July. They still have
seats available and of course Robert Solasis the keynote. I will be there
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in September. I will be aspeaker there along with a host of really
good top speakers. That's going tobe a fun time. And then of
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course we have x Con coming upin Springfield this year. October eleventh through
the thirteenth. We have an excellentlineup of speakers and events for you,
so please do check that out atUNEX network dot com. And of course
today I looked on the ONEX calendar, because if you don't have one,
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to get one, I'm going tobe creating a new one. So it's
going to start in July this year. It'll be an eighteen month calendar.
But this year's has all the weirddays in it, the national day,
so of course today is National monkeyaround Day. Now I'm not really sure
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what that means, but maybe ChrisJordan and I can figure that out.
Welcome to the program, Chris,Hey, how you doing. I'm doing
great. How are you? I'mgreat, glad to be here. Thanks
so much for having me Tom tonight. Margie, Well, I'd love having
you on. And we're going toget into it in a minute. But
what is this about these weird nationaldays? Do you know who created that?
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I do? I do. Thegentleman's name is Marlow, and I
don't know that he's an UNEX listener, but he is all over the internet.
And yeah, it's interesting because they'regetting ready to do if I'm not
mistaken like a National Day movie that'sactually about like the way that national days
work, and it follows kind ofthe idea of how National VWDA came to
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be and it's it's one of thelargest attended national days out there. But
yeah, the National Day calendar isa thing. If you would like to
sponsor a day, you can doit. This is no plug. I
get paid no money by Marlow.But okay, the fact that like this
guy had an idea one day inthe early days of the Internet that you
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know, now that the world isconnected the way it is, we should
do like a national day calendar whereyou know, like National Secretary's Day,
National Teacher's Day, things like that. So yeah, people find sponsors for
them all kinds of things, andhuge companies come together to sponsor national days
for stuff like that. It's prettycool. And there are a lot of
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weird ones. And of course forthe unex calendar, I put the strange
ones in, but I don't thinkthere's anything normal in it. But you
know that would be that wouldn't goalong with what we do here. So
but let me do introduce to you. Christopher Jordan composes instrumental music incorporating everything
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from frequencies from within the solar systemto binaurmal beats and even brainwave frequencies.
His soothing and calming music is designedto help listeners relax, and each track
is designed to be used as atool for meditation and to help listeners reach
deeper levels of relaxation and self exploration. Creating music and soundscapes, Christopher's unique
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compositions have been used as background musicfor meditation albums, corporate events, as
well as a unique series of meditationvideos, with his compositions raising ranging from
meditation and frequency therapy to auvant gardeand even electronic lo fi. In his
incarnation as the artist No Disassemble Christopher, I've never heard of No Disassemble?
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Who is he? I am NoDisassemble. It is just my electronic music
artist's name I'm gonna be. Ifyou look over my shoulder there on the
Chachkey shelf, you can probably seemy little Johnny five statue. My brother
gave me that name years ago.I was a part of another duo that
my partner ended up going on theroad for work and was gone three quarters
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of the year, and it waslike, wow, who am I?
Going to create music with now,you know, like I've always made avant
guarde music things like that, andalways made therapy music, but my lo
fi music things like that. It'sa different creative process, and I enjoyed
having a partner. My brother waslike, no, no, you can
do it on your own. Youshould do it on your own, like
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you should call yourself no disassemble becauseof all the circuits that you modify,
Like I own a guitar pedal modificationcompany, and I tear things apart and
I rebuild them and redesign sirs andthings like that. So it's where the
came from. You are disassemble.Yeah, yeah, No. I always
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tell my wife because she's like,for some reason, things just work for
you, and I'm like, yeah, because they've seen what I've done to
their brethren, and they know thatthey will end up stripped for parts if
they don't like work. Ah,okay, gotcha. Yeah, that's my
explanation for why when something doesn't workfor her, I pick it up and
it immediately just goes. She's like, I don't know why that happens.
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It's because they fear me. Theyknow I will turn them into spare parts.
And build something else. Well,that sounds rather mystical to me.
I believe your energy is probably makingthings function. It is. It is
fun to say the least. Imean, it's it's one of those I
have assembled things even when I wasa kid, like eight years old,
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Margie. My my passion was invention, Like I wanted to be an enter
when I grew up. That's that'swhat I wanted to do, was make
things out of nothing. It's it'swhat I love doing. So now,
the fact that I patch wires togetherfor a living, like even when I'm
on the road working. Whenever yousee in social media groups like poorly describe
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what you do for a living,I normally say I get paid to travel
and play with other people's expensive toys, like I do audio video for a
living. It's what I do herein my studio for fun. Like it's
not work for me, it's justwhat I love doing. So well,
they say it's all the creative process. If you love what you're doing,
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you'll do it well. So thereis some truth to that, almost absolutely
so, Chris, how did youget into music and electronics? Music has
always kind of been there in mylife. It wasn't until I was in
college though that I really started pursuingmusic as a really serious, serious hobby,
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and eventually, through playing music,began recording my own music and began
engineering music in live venues things likethat. That is where my love for
arrangement, my love for composition,my love for mixing and mastering and putting
things in different layers came to beand very much the roots of what I
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do now, especially with my therapymusic, because it is working in the
sub harmonic range and the ranges thatyour body can feel but not necessarily here.
You know, when you're talking aboutsomething like the Schumann resonance seven point
eight hertz, your ears here fromtwenty hurts to twenty megaherts twenty thousand herts.
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So that's like at least a coupleof octaves almost below the range of
human hearing. That's thee of acat purr that you feel instead of here.
So it's interesting understanding all that.And yeah, it was my love
of music that brought me to thescience of frequencies and things like that,
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and really my love of subliminal psychologyfor a long time. When I first
found out about frequencies and the waythat they worked with the brain and even
the idea of brain wave entrainment Iused. I used frequencies like nineteen hurts,
things that are just below the range, like that's one hurt below the
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range of human hearings, so justwhere you would imperceptibly be like, did
you hear that? But it's alsoa frequency that resonates with people. It's
the resonant frequency of the water inyour eyes, So it's where optical hallucination
starts with frequencies. And it's alsothe frequency that many people associate with paranormal
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and the feeling of something or anentity being in the room with you.
So I would use frequencies like thatembedded in my music thematically to influence people
in the way that they thought aboutthe music and the way that they listened
to the music. So it wasn'tyeah, yeah, it was very much
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in a in a soundscape type way. Once again, I was big into
subliminal psychology, and one of myfavorite movies still to this day is The
Exorcist, and a lot of thatis because of the subliminal audio that's used
inside of it. And really it'sjust it's not necessarily subliminal because it's mixed
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in. You can hear it,but it's reversed. The sounds, the
guttural sounds coming out of Reagan whenshe's possessed. Things like that. The
audio engineers use the sounds of likepigs and sheep being slaughtered, uh,
and then played them in reverse.Wow, feed off the human psyche and
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the and the fear of that.You know, they use the sounds of
like bees and wasps shaken in jarsand played in reverse to help build tension
things like that, because your yourbrain will actively decode that stuff. And
it's it's really interesting once you startdelving into it. So yeah, the
idea that they were using sub harmonicfrequencies, things that you aren't able to
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hear but influence your body even tothe point of like repulsion, disgust,
things like that. Like it itadds to the movie and it adds to
the movie experience. So so doesit affect your subconscious mind? It can,
most definitely. And and you knowthat that's one reason, Margie,
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why why we have active laws againstlike subliminals in movies. Uh, you
know, like they're there once wasa day and age like I'm I'm almost
fifty it happened back in the fortiesthings like that. But there was a
day and age whereas they played thelet's go out to the lobby thing,
they would flash a coke label bamand oly enough they sold more coke before
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shows started, not pepsi, notother products, just coke. So yeah,
like the idea that our brains cansee that one frame out of thirty,
you know, kind of like infight Club where the guy's putting the
inappropriate pictures into Bambi, but yourbrain sees it. Your eyes may have
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been deceived and been like did Isee that one frame, but your brain
saw it and decoded it, right, So, uh, subliminal frequencies using
using binaural beats, things like thatare even frequency therapy pure tone frequency therapy
is very much along the same lineswhere it's it's really more regularity of exposure
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that that brings your brain to beable to tune into a frequency. So
frequency therapy would be kind of thekind of akin to the chakra that's spinning
over my shoulder right now, whereyou have a singing bowl that is tuned
to that frequency and it vibrates throughyou as you hold it. Things like
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that, your brain definitely ties intothat. Now, the difference between that
and binormal beat is binormal beat isbasically making your brain create that frequency on
its own. So whereas one isdefinitely working out the others like sending your
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brain to the hardcore gem on legday, you know to out okay,
how to do it? So one, yes, if you put out a
tone of let's say five hundred andtwenty eight hertz for love and understanding and
you have a singing bowl that's vibratingat that, your brain will tie into
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it, you know. Now,I do have one of those bulls.
Yeah, And the first time Iplayed it, I was in my office.
I had my assistant here and myhusband was here, and that just
goes right through your body. Itis amazing. Yes, tone is incredible,
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and it's an experience. It's notjust hearing a note. It is
an experience. Yeah, yeah,it really is. And once again,
that's one of those that will vibratethrough you from from head to toe.
You'll feel it go through you likea bolt of lightning. And now using
that, oh, your brain willtie into that. You know. There's
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there's a great concept and this iswhat binoral beats works off. Of is
the idea of entrainment, the ideathat if you and I, Margie,
we aren't the same height. I'msure I'm about six three, so I'm
sure our strides are slightly different.However, even my wife, who's a
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lady of smaller stature, when wewalk down the hall, eventually our footsteps
fall into sync. Our brain wantsthat pattern. It wants to tie into
that pattern. So your brain will, eventually, when exposed to enough five
twenty eight, begin creating it itself. However, if you want to shorten
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that path, you can use binormalbeats. And basically what that does is
by feeding one ear five twenty nineand the other ear five twenty seven,
it creates a wobble in your ears, and your brain eventually goes, wait
a minute, I think you wantthe sum of these two five twenty eight.
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So between the two offset frequencies,your brain actively starts creating the third
frequency itself. It starts creating thetarget frequency on its own. That's just
amazing, how instead of just tyinginto it. So it's it's pretty remarkable
the fact that yes we can,we can hijack that utter biological response of
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our brain and it can be doneto malintent. You know, you can
use frequencies to hurt people. Wehave we have all kinds of things for
crowd dispersal, things like that thatuse very high gigahertz pulses that make your
skin feel like they're burning, youknow, because of the high rate of
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pulse that's there. For those ofyou that don't know, a hurtz rate
is basically a calculation of pulses persecond. When when you're talking like seven
point eight herts, that is sevenpoint eight pulses per second, So it
sounds much more like a click thana note or a tone at that point.
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Now, once you start multiplying that, multiplying that, and once you
get into five hundred and twenty eightherts, that's five hundred clicks per second,
So it's much more like a steadytone to us than an individual beat.
So it's pretty interesting. Like whenyou get down to ninety herts,
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that's about the range of slightly activeheart rate, you know, eighty six
is about a resting heart rate,So it's it's pretty interesting. One of
my favorite drummers in the world isis Neil Peart or not Neil Pear,
but the quote comes from UH dateNick Mason from Pink Floyd. He said
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his drumming teacher all told him notto drum faster than your heart can beat,
Which is an interesting concept because whenyou start listening to a lot of
modern music, it's very very veryfast tempoed music, and it affects you.
Oh it does. It's very negative. I can't be around it.
It can and you know, likeI used to work metal nights as an
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audio engineer, all kinds of thingsthat there there's a place for it.
You know, there are even greatstudies that show that along with oddly enough,
along with UH classical music, metalmusic is one of the musics that
plants grow faster, to grow fasterand more lush. And they because they're
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basically using the exact same scales asclassical they're using mix Olidian scales, things
like that, they're just using themfaster. They're just playing it faster,
that's all. So if you slowedthat down by about two thirds, you'd
have classical music and brams that kindof stuff. It's it's pretty remarkable.
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But that even goes to speak Margieof the frequency of things. The idea
of speed cycles, you know,going back to that concept of our eyes
seeing it approximately thirty frames per secondbetween twenty four and thirty that's what old
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television was at. There's a reasonwhy our parents called it the boob tube
because yeah, given enough time,your brain will sync to that and you
will be in a slower response state. You will go into a state of
n yes. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, And the idea of sixty
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hertz's what typically you know, likeI'm wearing filters right now against sixty herts,
which is fluorescent lighting things like that. Are television screens now typically rest
at sixty hertz because they're high definition. They used to be thirty frames per
second. Now there's sixty frames persecond, So your eyes get tired twice
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as fast, but you also gointo a zombifide state twice as fast,
and you're twice as susceptible now tothe commercial and more susceptible faster. So
yeah, it's it's strange once youstart doing video. Math of the frames
per second is it is exactly amultiplication of our brain wave frequency and the
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frequency at which R I see.So even now most HD four K television
is done in one hundred and twentyframes per second. That's for your brain
goes into your zombifide hypnotic state fourtimes faster than it does on analog television.
Oh my goodness, So yeah,watch out folks. Don't watch TV
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anymore. Yeah, or just makesure that you're watching good stuff, you
know. Like my mother, Godbless her. I remember years ago.
She used to be so worried becauseI ran sound at night. I wouldn't
get home till two three in themorning, you know, like nothing good
happens past eleven o'clock, which,you know, nothing good in the world.
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It's like, well, yeah,you're watching the news in Houston,
Texas. You go to bed atten pm. You may have some unsettled
sleep, you know, like it'spretty much a body count. Like it's
the news from Houston, Texas atten pm. Like it they aren't giving
you happy things. But it's funnythat that's what we watch as we go
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to sleep. That that's what That'sthe last thing we give our brain is
something like that, Margie, andand just when you're talking frequency in general,
the idea of our brain is afilter, and much like any good
filter, we need to give ittime to clear. We need to give
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it a break from information. Youknow, like if you've got a sieve
sitting at the bottom of a raingutter, given enough rain, that sieve
will overflow and not do its job. So that analogy the kind of what
our brains are up against done thedaily between the electronic fog of frequencies that
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we live in, between Wi Ficell phones, everything else, even the
electronics around us. Between that,between the fact that we are almost driven
to a panic state by most ofwhat's out there in the media. You
know, it's pretty remarkable that mostof us are functional human beings. Yeah,
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when you say it like that,yes, we've got a question in
chattelot Is sure, get you realquick in your opinion, what's the best
frequency to attain goals and success?Honestly, I cannot recommend. Seven point
eight hurts more than anything. Sevenpoint eight hurts the Schumann resonance. Get
yourself re grounded. People start there. The fact of being regrounded to the
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Earth, The Earth's frequency, theEarth's heartbeat, that is the heartbeat of
the Earth is the Schumann resonance.So the more tied in you are to
that, the better decisions you're gonnamake. You know, the less driven
by full passion. You're gonna bebe a passionate person, but don't don't
make your decisions like that, youknow, like it's it's interesting once again
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to see just how off kilter somuch of our society is because of the
speed at which we operate, Margie, you know, we didn't used to
operate like that, even even evenmy grandparents when they grew up. Unless
you had a fat light or alantern, it was dark when the sun
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went down. They didn't have television. They grew up in rural Louisiana.
They didn't have like electricity, likethey had a kerosene lamp, things like
that. When when the sun wentdown they saw stars, you know,
they were they were connected to theearth in a different way than we are
right now, all of a generationand a half later. How can people
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be exposed to the Shuman residents.One of the easiest ways to do that
is once again, cats. Catsare great for it, the lower the
lower end of their purr. Ifyou can have one perran on top of
you, it's a it's a fantasticway to do it. But you can
buy you can buy small Shuman resonancegenerators for about twenty dollars. Things like
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that. If you're handy with someelectronics you can make you can use a
five point fifty five timing circuit andold one for about fifteen bucks of parts.
Things like that. Aside from that, naturally, it is going out
and exposing yourself to raw earth,being feet on the earth. You know,
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go go lay down under trees,things like that, get yourself retied
kinetically to the earth itself. Takeyour shoes off and stand on the ground.
Yeah. Yeah, and especially ifyou have a kid. You know,
I'm a big proponent of let himrun barefoot, Like let them let
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them have as much contact as theycan with the ground until they want to
wear shoes or until they have to, like at school. Things like that,
Like I don't I don't think Iput shoes on my kid unless it
was like let's go to a restaurant, or unless he was going to daycare.
Aside from that, it was like, run barefoot, be connected to
the earth. Know what it feelslike, you know, know it intimately
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ex News. We have Chris Jordanwith us this evening, and Chris,
I want to shift gears for justa minute. Sure, talk about your
Curious Realm podcast. Why did youbegin that and when did you begin that?
You know it began under a differentmoniker many years ago, Margie,
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And it began because I realized that, aside from people who wore black for
a living, other av technicians,things like that, that I was missing
conversation in life. I was missingconversation from different people of different backgrounds,
people of different mindsets. So Ibegan a show at that point called Dudes
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and Beer, where the idea wasdidn't matter what we talked about. It
was myself and two other people fromdifferent walks of life who got together,
talked about topics and agree or disagree. We were going to keep a conversation
going, and next week we werestill going to be friends. And it
eventually morphed into deeper, thicker conversationsguests things like that, and me being
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on the road for work most ofthe time. So I rebranded things and
it became the Curious Realm, andnow we have conversations about still deep,
hard topics, you know, thingslike human trafficking, targeted individuals, that
kind of stuff. Just worlds ofresearch that many people may not be aware
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of. And I see it asmy job to help demystify topics things that
for average listeners, for regular peoplewho don't research for a living, they
don't like. For a long time, even even in my career as an
on air producer, my job wasfinding guests looking up topics, reading news
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articles, compiling information, things likethat. And I realized rapidly that that
is not everybody's job. Margie,like a lot of most people don't swim
in the waters of news and informationalmost twenty four to seven, and for
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a while in my life, that'sexactly what I did. So being able
to bring on guests, you know, kind of like the conversation that we
just had about the recent announcements fromStephen Greer and being able to have Kathleen
Martin on to respond to that,to open a conversation across the aisle,
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because you know, unfortunately I proudlywear the badge capital F skeptic, Margie.
I am a believer's believer in allof these topics. However, because
my belief is there, my realmof evidence has to be larger, my
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realm of what I consider evidence,And like I say on the show with
my air quotes up for those outthere that are just listeners, evidence is
what clears you in court. Evidenceis what exonerates you. Evidence is what
sets you free. So unless thatpicture with the circle on it is something
that you would give to your lawyerand say keep me out of prison for
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life, you may want to reconsidercalling it evidence. You have a point
of datum to add to the dataset, So demystifying things like that where
it's like, let's get to theroot of this. Let's get to the
root of a conversation and be willingto reach across both aisles, from from
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the aisle of a hardcore researcher tothe isle of a hardcore believer and in
the middle somewhere, because somewhere inwithin that science that a hardcore researcher is
following is their own doctrine as well, and they're following their line of thinking
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and processing because of what they believe, you know. And it really does
take that open hearted, empathetic understandingthat, you know, we're all doing
what we believe, and what webelieve is right, Margie. And the
beautiful thing about America is we allhave that God given right to wake up
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and make any stupid decision we want. It literally starts with that, so
will yeah, And and we haveto be willing to have a conversation without
trying to convince somebody of our paradigm. You know, we have to get
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back to a point of trying tounderstand and what somebody believes and just seeing
that as a beautiful facet of thegem that is that person. You don't
have to buff the facet anymore.You don't have to polish it to the
way you need to see it shine. Just accept the fact that that's a
facet on the gym that is thatperson, you know. And I think
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if we did that across all communitieswithin this UH, we would get two
different answers about a lot of things. We would get to a much more
empathetic understanding from across both aisles.You know. One of the topics I
bring up regularly is the idea ofbigfoot in portals. I am a believer
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in portals in Sedona, things likethat, energy vortices, all kinds of
stuff. I'm also a believer inthe fact that there is a large hominid
specie roaming the woods of North Americaand beyond. However, you bring them
both up in the same encounter,now you've got something different, because which
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side of the unknown spectrum do youstart investigating that experience from the portal or
the cryptid right, you know,because now you've got two phenomena occurring at
the same time, and you mayyou may get researchers who are like,
no woo woo allowed, And youmay get researchers over here in the paranormals
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in the portal section that are likeno Cryptid's allowed, you know, and
where it's all woo woo, andit's like we somehow or another, we've
if these things are crossing over together, if these phenomena are appearing at the
same time, we've got to beable to have a conversation together. Yeah,
we do, we do, Chris, have you had any personal paranormal
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experiences? I have? I have, I've had a few. The one
that always comes to mind one ofone of my first ones, I mean
really the first one that I evereven remember is I was probably about four
and a half years old. Welived in Crosby, Texas, and we
lived in a tiny little trailer house. Behind us was Miss Pat and I
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would go while my brother was atschool and help Miss Pat collect eggs things
like that. She'd watch me andmy brother all kinds of stuff. Between
our house. From what I recall, this is utter recollection. Between our
house was a rusted swing set,and I remember looking out at Miss Pat's
house one day and seeing a darkfigure standing next to the swing set beckoning
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me to come out oo. AndI don't know what I mean to me.
It was the devil like it wouldbe the quintessential devil Margie. And
once again, I don't know ifit's a trope that parped in my head
from a Devil Dam commercial in nineteenseventy eight, seventy nine, you know
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who knows, But that is myfirst vivid experience of something giving me the
chills. That wasn't on TV oranything like that. Where I was,
I was genuinely afraid of what wasoutside that window, and that would be
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the first one. That would bethe first one. Aside from that,
I had quite a few experiences withshadow people, especially in a sleep sleep
paralyzed state, and in one instancewithin a sleep paralyzed state, where a
shadow person actively grabbed me. Ohreally, you physically felt it? Yeah?
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Yeah, And that was hands downone of the most frightening experiences of
my life. I could not move, I could not respond, I couldn't
do anything but result to the kneejerk reaction for me was my connection to
the universe, my god. Ifyou call it that, what have you?
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I just I started praying and andeventually got to a point where I
could move and things dissipated and wentaway, and it was strange, but
that was even a huge breaking pointfor me faith wise, Margie. I
mean I I I spent my firstyear in college studying as a Catholic seminarian,
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like I I, and that wasbecause of what I truly believed to
be a religious experience where I wasbilocated to a place of eternal love and
joy. It was. It wasabsolutely amazing. So when I when I
went to my spiritual director at thetime with the shadow person grabbing me,
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they didn't really have an answer andtold me that the church didn't really have
a teaching on it, and thatdisturbed me. Like I own a copy
of it right over my shoulder inthe in the bookshelf is my copy of
the Right of Exorcism, Like I, I have those books. I have
that stuff, so I know thatthere is something in there. Is there
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something in the big Green Book theCatechism? Ah, you know, but
man, it was. It wasa big crisis of conscience for me and
a big spiritual awakening to something largerthan the scope I had been given and
the chest of tools that I hadbeen given to build and and create my
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spiritual world with, you know.So yeah, that began a lot of
esoteric searching in my life, alot of really beginning to understand different different
aspects of spiritual, different paths ofspirituality, different esoteric truths, different things
that many teachings, even in theCatholic Church were based on. You know.
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So, yeah, it was.It was very much a huge eye
opening experience for me and something thatled to what I would think and truly
believe is a watershed moment in mylife of truth and wisdom that took me
down a larger, bigger path.Well, yes, I don't believe in
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coincidences, and I think we allhave a path or a job to do
in our lifetimes, and I dowant to get to I want to play
this excerpt of one of the piecesyou sent me. It's called Acoustic Cinematic.
You want to tell us what thatis about? Acoustic cinematic? That's
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that think that that experiencer, Oh, experiencer, Here we go, Here
we go. I have a wholelist, no worries. I'm sure you
have tons of them like I do. Yeah, so what is this?
Experiencer is my latest album of binooral beat therapy music. I've i started
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a series called Music for Targeted Minds. The first one was made specifically to
help alleviate the symptomology of those thatare targeted individuals, people that believe themselves
to be targeted by things like Havanasyndrome, that kind of stuff. This
is Volume two which is made tohelp those that are that have experienced trauma
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from UFO abduction et experience close quarterscontact. One of the things that I
speak about regularly, especially with vibrationMargie, is the idea that experience like
this are very much like getting awatch near a magnet. The watch may
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work, but it will always beslightly off a paranormal event when it happens
to somebody, specifically, when you'rein the in the realm of technology and
frequency technology that it would take towarp space time to travel far distances in
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small amounts of time. That is, that is a massive range of frequencies
that you're dealing with, and thatcan be hard to once again retune yourself
to the world around you, muchless to be able to get rid of
the PTSD to be able to seeyourself as a normal person afterwards. So
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many people it takes them years sometimes, as I'm sure you know with your
work with people, takes them yearsto process these traumatic events and to be
able to get to the depth ofwhat this event actually means for them in
their life. So this album Experienceris made specifically to help retie those that
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have been through these traumatic events throughthese close quarters close contact events with extraterrestrial
entities extraterrestrial technology back to Schumann residenceto bring them back to a point of
love and understanding in their life,to help release some of the trauma that
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they may be holding on too fromthat experience. All right, well,
let me go ahead and play alittle bit of this so that everybody can
hear a sample. It actually thinksit's quite Oh, it's in there.
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Okay, I just want to givepeople a little taste of it. What
absolutely Yeah, I'll tell you whatit does to me. It just sits
again. I break my brain rightin a line, right in line with
the psychic center and third eye.Uh, and it's I can physically feel
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it inside my brain. That isthat is incredible and awesome to hear.
Thank you so much. That ishuge implement especially from someone like you that
does as much meditation and and workwith people in that realm. Sev talk
said the same thing that it wasit was something that moved her to to
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other realm and that that's kind ofpart of part of the purpose is to
help people realize the fact that uh, that this should be shifting them to
another frequency. These these experiences aremeant and and they can be frightening because
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they're they're they're paradigm shaking, Margie. You know, the the turn of
phrase that I have lifted from uhKathleen Martin and Earl Gray is onto logic
shock. It's it's the idea thatwhen it happens to you, everything that
you know to be is rocked andchanged. Everything is different at that point,
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and you can't necessarily go to familyand friends with it because everything's different
and it can be hard. Itcan be hard for people to be able
to come out and talk about theirexperiences, to be open with them.
So I help. I created thisto help people be able to process that
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and to be able to get oversome of those fears and to be able
to get back to I guess,normal functioning amongst people who may not understand
what they've been through. I couldsee how this music, these creations would
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help a person mentally. I mean, because you know, I could feel
it instantly. What about physically,how does frequency affect the body? Physically?
Frequency affects the body very very muchin the same way that it does
our brains. There there are numerousstudies showing UH rapid healing and burnwards things
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like that, specifically with frequencies thatare based and octaves of UH seven point
eight Herd Schumann resonance. Things likethat. Once again, are are we
We are swathed by frequencies and ourwhole body, specifically our brain. Our
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brain is just a big salt andfat transducer living inside of a big resonant
chamber. Like it's it's ready toreceive all of these things. And what's
interesting is we see a very verysmall slice We see and hear a small
slice of the electromagnetic spectrum, veryvery tiny slice of it all. And
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when you start looking at that,when you start considering what we actively see
and hear. Here here is achart that I normally use. Right there,
These are all the frequencies from onehurt all the way infrasound, you
know down there what whales use tocommunicate, you know, between one and
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ten would be once again, thatShuman frequency that Schumann residence but where you
see light on there is what wesee like there is, there is a
huge, huge, vast universe outthere that we do not see and hear.
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That's literally right adjacent, right adjacentto us and affecting us and affecting
us fully, you know, no, no different than the Moon's gravitational pull
is affecting us via a distance,you know, no, no different than
right now the Sun's solar cycle that'sgoing haywire. Like all of these things
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affect us because when when you startlooking at it from a very ninth grade
science point of view, Margie,we are not here. We we are
a conscious vibration, each one ofus a unique conscious vibration. That vibration
is attracting much like the you know, vibrations on anything well will attract things
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to it. We are attracting,Mattie. Right now, you and I
despite distance, by all, byall known physics, we're sharing an electron
shell. That's that's just physics.So yeah, the idea that we ourselves
are vibration, we are, weare moved via vibration. We we take
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part in that. You know,it's it's pretty remarkable, pretty remarkable when
you start looking at people like uh, Maureen Sieberg, the author of Fear
Webade, she is a tetrachromic.She's somebody who's not only see red,
blue, and green, but yellow. So she has an entire million other
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colors that her eyes can see andprocess that ours cannot. That's that's remarkable
to think about how she sees andprocesses the world in a different way,
in a totally different way, simplybecause of the vibrations that she is sensitive
to. You know, even evensaying that you you see color with music
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things like that, it's an aestheticsvery much the same thing, you know.
It's it's your brain being vibrated ina in a different way than the
average listener. It it is.And as a person who sees vibration,
I see each each person I seevibrates at a different rate. And what's
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interesting is when a group of peoplegets together and they're vibrating at a high
rate, and let's say there's oneperson that comes in the group and hangs
around them for a while, theirrate of vibration goes up too. It's
so interesting to watch. Yeah,it is. It is very sympathetic,
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you know, And I've I've saidfor years we are We are all accountable
for the vibration that we drag intoa room. We're all accountable for that,
you know, and and a lotof effects that we may not even
I was on an interview not toolong ago, and I guess it was
probably about a year ago, almostwhenever I released my Chakra Meditation album and
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I had somebody tune in who wouldpurchase the album. They were they were
a reiki teacher, and they werelike I was. I was listening to
the Muladhara track, the first one, the root chakra, and and got
like physically moved emotionally like started weepingfor like forty minutes and could not stop.
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And I don't know what that wasabout. I'm like, well,
seems like you maybe have something thatyou've just kind of like tilled over in
your garden. Like even though you'rea reiki master and meditate every day things
like, it doesn't mean that youdidn't like just glaze over something as you
were moving along, you know,like we all tend to do that.
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So there may have been something thathappened that it just rang your bell,
you know, and you'd been okayuntil something hit you that deep. So
look for it, and that's justit, Margorie. We all, despite
our adeptness at being spiritual, despiteour adeptness at you know, being psychic,
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clairvoyant, remote viewing, what haveyou, we all need a leg
up. We all need a littlebit of help. We all need to
be able to unplug sometimes and returnto that root. Note that we're all
a part of, you know,and what you're doing is another tool to
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help us get to where we wantto be. How can people get a
hold of your music? The easiestway is my website that's on screen right
now, Artochristopher Jordan dot com.If you're a Roku user, actually,
the Art of Christopher Jordan is whereyou can go and purchase all the albums.
That's where you can go and purchasethe video meditation series. There's a
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whole set of seven hour long videosfor each chakra that's available for sale all
kinds of things. There's also myfree Curious Realm Roku app, so if
you're a Roku user, there's someof the meditation music available there as well.
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You can find samples, decently longsamples about ten minutes long of all
of my hour long meditation tracks onjust about every platform out there. So
even though you can buy the hourlong track for about twenty bucks, you
can buy a ten minute sample forthe average of like a dollar fifty something
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like that. So if it's somethingthat you know you just want to try
out, feel free to visit Spotifywhatever. Just look for Christopher Jordan.
All right, all right, we'lldo. Thank you so much for being
on the program. We're definitely goingto have some more to talk about.
Absolutely, we're just reaching the tipof it right now. I do know
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that much. And as a musician, you know, I'm very interested in
this. I'm gonna listen to yourentire album. I can't wait, and
I'll definitely report back. Thank youso much, Chris, thank you,
thank you everybody for listening tonight.I'll see you here again next week
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but I do want to mention acouple of things. First, don't
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course we have x Con coming upin Springfield this year. October eleventh through
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so please do check that out atUNEX network dot com. And of course
today I looked on the ONEX calendar, because if you don't have one,
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to get one, I'm going tobe creating a new one. So it's
going to start in July this year. It'll be an eighteen month calendar.
But this year's has all the weirddays in it, the national day,
so of course today is National monkeyaround Day. Now I'm not really sure
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what that means, but maybe ChrisJordan and I can figure that out.
Welcome to the program, Chris,Hey, how you doing. I'm doing
great. How are you? I'mgreat, glad to be here. Thanks
so much for having me Tom tonight. Margie, Well, I'd love having
you on. And we're going toget into it in a minute. But
what is this about these weird nationaldays? Do you know who created that?
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I do? I do. Thegentleman's name is Marlow, and I
don't know that he's an UNEX listener, but he is all over the internet.
And yeah, it's interesting because they'regetting ready to do if I'm not
mistaken like a National Day movie that'sactually about like the way that national days
work, and it follows kind ofthe idea of how National VWDA came to
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be and it's it's one of thelargest attended national days out there. But
yeah, the National Day calendar isa thing. If you would like to
sponsor a day, you can doit. This is no plug. I
get paid no money by Marlow.But okay, the fact that like this
guy had an idea one day inthe early days of the Internet that you
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know, now that the world isconnected the way it is, we should
do like a national day calendar whereyou know, like National Secretary's Day,
National Teacher's Day, things like that. So yeah, people find sponsors for
them all kinds of things, andhuge companies come together to sponsor national days
for stuff like that. It's prettycool. And there are a lot of
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weird ones. And of course forthe unex calendar, I put the strange
ones in, but I don't thinkthere's anything normal in it. But you
know that would be that wouldn't goalong with what we do here. So
but let me do introduce to you. Christopher Jordan composes instrumental music incorporating everything
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from frequencies from within the solar systemto binaurmal beats and even brainwave frequencies.
His soothing and calming music is designedto help listeners relax, and each track
is designed to be used as atool for meditation and to help listeners reach
deeper levels of relaxation and self exploration. Creating music and soundscapes, Christopher's unique
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compositions have been used as background musicfor meditation albums, corporate events, as
well as a unique series of meditationvideos, with his compositions raising ranging from
meditation and frequency therapy to auvant gardeand even electronic lo fi. In his
incarnation as the artist No Disassemble Christopher, I've never heard of No Disassemble?
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Who is he? I am NoDisassemble. It is just my electronic music
artist's name I'm gonna be. Ifyou look over my shoulder there on the
Chachkey shelf, you can probably seemy little Johnny five statue. My brother
gave me that name years ago.I was a part of another duo that
my partner ended up going on theroad for work and was gone three quarters
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of the year, and it waslike, wow, who am I?
Going to create music with now,you know, like I've always made avant
guarde music things like that, andalways made therapy music, but my lo
fi music things like that. It'sa different creative process, and I enjoyed
having a partner. My brother waslike, no, no, you can
do it on your own. Youshould do it on your own, like
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you should call yourself no disassemble becauseof all the circuits that you modify,
Like I own a guitar pedal modificationcompany, and I tear things apart and
I rebuild them and redesign sirs andthings like that. So it's where the
came from. You are disassemble.Yeah, yeah, No. I always
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tell my wife because she's like,for some reason, things just work for
you, and I'm like, yeah, because they've seen what I've done to
their brethren, and they know thatthey will end up stripped for parts if
they don't like work. Ah,okay, gotcha. Yeah, that's my
explanation for why when something doesn't workfor her, I pick it up and
it immediately just goes. She's like, I don't know why that happens.
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It's because they fear me. Theyknow I will turn them into spare parts.
And build something else. Well,that sounds rather mystical to me.
I believe your energy is probably makingthings function. It is. It is
fun to say the least. Imean, it's it's one of those I
have assembled things even when I wasa kid, like eight years old,
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Margie. My my passion was invention, Like I wanted to be an enter
when I grew up. That's that'swhat I wanted to do, was make
things out of nothing. It's it'swhat I love doing. So now,
the fact that I patch wires togetherfor a living, like even when I'm
on the road working. Whenever yousee in social media groups like poorly describe
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what you do for a living,I normally say I get paid to travel
and play with other people's expensive toys, like I do audio video for a
living. It's what I do herein my studio for fun. Like it's
not work for me, it's justwhat I love doing. So well,
they say it's all the creative process. If you love what you're doing,
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you'll do it well. So thereis some truth to that, almost absolutely
so, Chris, how did youget into music and electronics? Music has
always kind of been there in mylife. It wasn't until I was in
college though that I really started pursuingmusic as a really serious, serious hobby,
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and eventually, through playing music,began recording my own music and began
engineering music in live venues things likethat. That is where my love for
arrangement, my love for composition,my love for mixing and mastering and putting
things in different layers came to beand very much the roots of what I
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do now, especially with my therapymusic, because it is working in the
sub harmonic range and the ranges thatyour body can feel but not necessarily here.
You know, when you're talking aboutsomething like the Schumann resonance seven point
eight hertz, your ears here fromtwenty hurts to twenty megaherts twenty thousand herts.
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So that's like at least a coupleof octaves almost below the range of
human hearing. That's thee of acat purr that you feel instead of here.
So it's interesting understanding all that.And yeah, it was my love
of music that brought me to thescience of frequencies and things like that,
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and really my love of subliminal psychologyfor a long time. When I first
found out about frequencies and the waythat they worked with the brain and even
the idea of brain wave entrainment Iused. I used frequencies like nineteen hurts,
things that are just below the range, like that's one hurt below the
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range of human hearings, so justwhere you would imperceptibly be like, did
you hear that? But it's alsoa frequency that resonates with people. It's
the resonant frequency of the water inyour eyes, So it's where optical hallucination
starts with frequencies. And it's alsothe frequency that many people associate with paranormal
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and the feeling of something or anentity being in the room with you.
So I would use frequencies like thatembedded in my music thematically to influence people
in the way that they thought aboutthe music and the way that they listened
to the music. So it wasn'tyeah, yeah, it was very much
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in a in a soundscape type way. Once again, I was big into
subliminal psychology, and one of myfavorite movies still to this day is The
Exorcist, and a lot of thatis because of the subliminal audio that's used
inside of it. And really it'sjust it's not necessarily subliminal because it's mixed
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in. You can hear it,but it's reversed. The sounds, the
guttural sounds coming out of Reagan whenshe's possessed. Things like that. The
audio engineers use the sounds of likepigs and sheep being slaughtered, uh,
and then played them in reverse.Wow, feed off the human psyche and
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the and the fear of that.You know, they use the sounds of
like bees and wasps shaken in jarsand played in reverse to help build tension
things like that, because your yourbrain will actively decode that stuff. And
it's it's really interesting once you startdelving into it. So yeah, the
idea that they were using sub harmonicfrequencies, things that you aren't able to
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hear but influence your body even tothe point of like repulsion, disgust,
things like that. Like it itadds to the movie and it adds to
the movie experience. So so doesit affect your subconscious mind? It can,
most definitely. And and you knowthat that's one reason, Margie,
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why why we have active laws againstlike subliminals in movies. Uh, you
know, like they're there once wasa day and age like I'm I'm almost
fifty it happened back in the fortiesthings like that. But there was a
day and age whereas they played thelet's go out to the lobby thing,
they would flash a coke label bamand oly enough they sold more coke before
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shows started, not pepsi, notother products, just coke. So yeah,
like the idea that our brains cansee that one frame out of thirty,
you know, kind of like infight Club where the guy's putting the
inappropriate pictures into Bambi, but yourbrain sees it. Your eyes may have
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been deceived and been like did Isee that one frame, but your brain
saw it and decoded it, right, So, uh, subliminal frequencies using
using binaural beats, things like thatare even frequency therapy pure tone frequency therapy
is very much along the same lineswhere it's it's really more regularity of exposure
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that that brings your brain to beable to tune into a frequency. So
frequency therapy would be kind of thekind of akin to the chakra that's spinning
over my shoulder right now, whereyou have a singing bowl that is tuned
to that frequency and it vibrates throughyou as you hold it. Things like
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that, your brain definitely ties intothat. Now, the difference between that
and binormal beat is binormal beat isbasically making your brain create that frequency on
its own. So whereas one isdefinitely working out the others like sending your
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brain to the hardcore gem on legday, you know to out okay,
how to do it? So one, yes, if you put out a
tone of let's say five hundred andtwenty eight hertz for love and understanding and
you have a singing bowl that's vibratingat that, your brain will tie into
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it, you know. Now,I do have one of those bulls.
Yeah, And the first time Iplayed it, I was in my office.
I had my assistant here and myhusband was here, and that just
goes right through your body. Itis amazing. Yes, tone is incredible,
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and it's an experience. It's notjust hearing a note. It is
an experience. Yeah, yeah,it really is. And once again,
that's one of those that will vibratethrough you from from head to toe.
You'll feel it go through you likea bolt of lightning. And now using
that, oh, your brain willtie into that. You know. There's
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there's a great concept and this iswhat binoral beats works off. Of is
the idea of entrainment, the ideathat if you and I, Margie,
we aren't the same height. I'msure I'm about six three, so I'm
sure our strides are slightly different.However, even my wife, who's a
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lady of smaller stature, when wewalk down the hall, eventually our footsteps
fall into sync. Our brain wantsthat pattern. It wants to tie into
that pattern. So your brain will, eventually, when exposed to enough five
twenty eight, begin creating it itself. However, if you want to shorten
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that path, you can use binormalbeats. And basically what that does is
by feeding one ear five twenty nineand the other ear five twenty seven,
it creates a wobble in your ears, and your brain eventually goes, wait
a minute, I think you wantthe sum of these two five twenty eight.
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So between the two offset frequencies,your brain actively starts creating the third
frequency itself. It starts creating thetarget frequency on its own. That's just
amazing, how instead of just tyinginto it. So it's it's pretty remarkable
the fact that yes we can,we can hijack that utter biological response of
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our brain and it can be doneto malintent. You know, you can
use frequencies to hurt people. Wehave we have all kinds of things for
crowd dispersal, things like that thatuse very high gigahertz pulses that make your
skin feel like they're burning, youknow, because of the high rate of
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pulse that's there. For those ofyou that don't know, a hurtz rate
is basically a calculation of pulses persecond. When when you're talking like seven
point eight herts, that is sevenpoint eight pulses per second, So it
sounds much more like a click thana note or a tone at that point.
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Now, once you start multiplying that, multiplying that, and once you
get into five hundred and twenty eightherts, that's five hundred clicks per second,
So it's much more like a steadytone to us than an individual beat.
So it's pretty interesting. Like whenyou get down to ninety herts,
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that's about the range of slightly activeheart rate, you know, eighty six
is about a resting heart rate,So it's it's pretty interesting. One of
my favorite drummers in the world isis Neil Peart or not Neil Pear,
but the quote comes from UH dateNick Mason from Pink Floyd. He said
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his drumming teacher all told him notto drum faster than your heart can beat,
Which is an interesting concept because whenyou start listening to a lot of
modern music, it's very very veryfast tempoed music, and it affects you.
Oh it does. It's very negative. I can't be around it.
It can and you know, likeI used to work metal nights as an
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audio engineer, all kinds of thingsthat there there's a place for it.
You know, there are even greatstudies that show that along with oddly enough,
along with UH classical music, metalmusic is one of the musics that
plants grow faster, to grow fasterand more lush. And they because they're
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basically using the exact same scales asclassical they're using mix Olidian scales, things
like that, they're just using themfaster. They're just playing it faster,
that's all. So if you slowedthat down by about two thirds, you'd
have classical music and brams that kindof stuff. It's it's pretty remarkable.
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But that even goes to speak Margieof the frequency of things. The idea
of speed cycles, you know,going back to that concept of our eyes
seeing it approximately thirty frames per secondbetween twenty four and thirty that's what old
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television was at. There's a reasonwhy our parents called it the boob tube
because yeah, given enough time,your brain will sync to that and you
will be in a slower response state. You will go into a state of
n yes. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, And the idea of sixty
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hertz's what typically you know, likeI'm wearing filters right now against sixty herts,
which is fluorescent lighting things like that. Are television screens now typically rest
at sixty hertz because they're high definition. They used to be thirty frames per
second. Now there's sixty frames persecond, So your eyes get tired twice
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as fast, but you also gointo a zombifide state twice as fast,
and you're twice as susceptible now tothe commercial and more susceptible faster. So
yeah, it's it's strange once youstart doing video. Math of the frames
per second is it is exactly amultiplication of our brain wave frequency and the
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frequency at which R I see.So even now most HD four K television
is done in one hundred and twentyframes per second. That's for your brain
goes into your zombifide hypnotic state fourtimes faster than it does on analog television.
Oh my goodness, So yeah,watch out folks. Don't watch TV
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anymore. Yeah, or just makesure that you're watching good stuff, you
know. Like my mother, Godbless her. I remember years ago.
She used to be so worried becauseI ran sound at night. I wouldn't
get home till two three in themorning, you know, like nothing good
happens past eleven o'clock, which,you know, nothing good in the world.
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It's like, well, yeah,you're watching the news in Houston,
Texas. You go to bed atten pm. You may have some unsettled
sleep, you know, like it'spretty much a body count. Like it's
the news from Houston, Texas atten pm. Like it they aren't giving
you happy things. But it's funnythat that's what we watch as we go
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to sleep. That that's what That'sthe last thing we give our brain is
something like that, Margie, andand just when you're talking frequency in general,
the idea of our brain is afilter, and much like any good
filter, we need to give ittime to clear. We need to give
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it a break from information. Youknow, like if you've got a sieve
sitting at the bottom of a raingutter, given enough rain, that sieve
will overflow and not do its job. So that analogy the kind of what
our brains are up against done thedaily between the electronic fog of frequencies that
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we live in, between Wi Ficell phones, everything else, even the
electronics around us. Between that,between the fact that we are almost driven
to a panic state by most ofwhat's out there in the media. You
know, it's pretty remarkable that mostof us are functional human beings. Yeah,
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when you say it like that,yes, we've got a question in
chattelot Is sure, get you realquick in your opinion, what's the best
frequency to attain goals and success?Honestly, I cannot recommend. Seven point
eight hurts more than anything. Sevenpoint eight hurts the Schumann resonance. Get
yourself re grounded. People start there. The fact of being regrounded to the
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Earth, The Earth's frequency, theEarth's heartbeat, that is the heartbeat of
the Earth is the Schumann resonance.So the more tied in you are to
that, the better decisions you're gonnamake. You know, the less driven
by full passion. You're gonna bebe a passionate person, but don't don't
make your decisions like that, youknow, like it's it's interesting once again
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to see just how off kilter somuch of our society is because of the
speed at which we operate, Margie, you know, we didn't used to
operate like that, even even evenmy grandparents when they grew up. Unless
you had a fat light or alantern, it was dark when the sun
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went down. They didn't have television. They grew up in rural Louisiana.
They didn't have like electricity, likethey had a kerosene lamp, things like
that. When when the sun wentdown they saw stars, you know,
they were they were connected to theearth in a different way than we are
right now, all of a generationand a half later. How can people
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be exposed to the Shuman residents.One of the easiest ways to do that
is once again, cats. Catsare great for it, the lower the
lower end of their purr. Ifyou can have one perran on top of
you, it's a it's a fantasticway to do it. But you can
buy you can buy small Shuman resonancegenerators for about twenty dollars. Things like
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that. If you're handy with someelectronics you can make you can use a
five point fifty five timing circuit andold one for about fifteen bucks of parts.
Things like that. Aside from that, naturally, it is going out
and exposing yourself to raw earth,being feet on the earth. You know,
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go go lay down under trees,things like that, get yourself retied
kinetically to the earth itself. Takeyour shoes off and stand on the ground.
Yeah. Yeah, and especially ifyou have a kid. You know,
I'm a big proponent of let himrun barefoot, Like let them let
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them have as much contact as theycan with the ground until they want to
wear shoes or until they have to, like at school. Things like that,
Like I don't I don't think Iput shoes on my kid unless it
was like let's go to a restaurant, or unless he was going to daycare.
Aside from that, it was like, run barefoot, be connected to
the earth. Know what it feelslike, you know, know it intimately
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ex News. We have Chris Jordanwith us this evening, and Chris,
I want to shift gears for justa minute. Sure, talk about your
Curious Realm podcast. Why did youbegin that and when did you begin that?
You know it began under a differentmoniker many years ago, Margie,
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And it began because I realized that, aside from people who wore black for
a living, other av technicians,things like that, that I was missing
conversation in life. I was missingconversation from different people of different backgrounds,
people of different mindsets. So Ibegan a show at that point called Dudes
(30:51):
and Beer, where the idea wasdidn't matter what we talked about. It
was myself and two other people fromdifferent walks of life who got together,
talked about topics and agree or disagree. We were going to keep a conversation
going, and next week we werestill going to be friends. And it
eventually morphed into deeper, thicker conversationsguests things like that, and me being
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on the road for work most ofthe time. So I rebranded things and
it became the Curious Realm, andnow we have conversations about still deep,
hard topics, you know, thingslike human trafficking, targeted individuals, that
kind of stuff. Just worlds ofresearch that many people may not be aware
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of. And I see it asmy job to help demystify topics things that
for average listeners, for regular peoplewho don't research for a living, they
don't like. For a long time, even even in my career as an
on air producer, my job wasfinding guests looking up topics, reading news
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articles, compiling information, things likethat. And I realized rapidly that that
is not everybody's job. Margie,like a lot of most people don't swim
in the waters of news and informationalmost twenty four to seven, and for
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a while in my life, that'sexactly what I did. So being able
to bring on guests, you know, kind of like the conversation that we
just had about the recent announcements fromStephen Greer and being able to have Kathleen
Martin on to respond to that,to open a conversation across the aisle,
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because you know, unfortunately I proudlywear the badge capital F skeptic, Margie.
I am a believer's believer in allof these topics. However, because
my belief is there, my realmof evidence has to be larger, my
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realm of what I consider evidence,And like I say on the show with
my air quotes up for those outthere that are just listeners, evidence is
what clears you in court. Evidenceis what exonerates you. Evidence is what
sets you free. So unless thatpicture with the circle on it is something
that you would give to your lawyerand say keep me out of prison for
(33:31):
life, you may want to reconsidercalling it evidence. You have a point
of datum to add to the dataset, So demystifying things like that where
it's like, let's get to theroot of this. Let's get to the
root of a conversation and be willingto reach across both aisles, from from
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the aisle of a hardcore researcher tothe isle of a hardcore believer and in
the middle somewhere, because somewhere inwithin that science that a hardcore researcher is
following is their own doctrine as well, and they're following their line of thinking
(34:13):
and processing because of what they believe, you know. And it really does
take that open hearted, empathetic understandingthat, you know, we're all doing
what we believe, and what webelieve is right, Margie. And the
beautiful thing about America is we allhave that God given right to wake up
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and make any stupid decision we want. It literally starts with that, so
will yeah, And and we haveto be willing to have a conversation without
trying to convince somebody of our paradigm. You know, we have to get
(34:57):
back to a point of trying tounderstand and what somebody believes and just seeing
that as a beautiful facet of thegem that is that person. You don't
have to buff the facet anymore.You don't have to polish it to the
way you need to see it shine. Just accept the fact that that's a
facet on the gym that is thatperson, you know. And I think
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if we did that across all communitieswithin this UH, we would get two
different answers about a lot of things. We would get to a much more
empathetic understanding from across both aisles.You know. One of the topics I
bring up regularly is the idea ofbigfoot in portals. I am a believer
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in portals in Sedona, things likethat, energy vortices, all kinds of
stuff. I'm also a believer inthe fact that there is a large hominid
specie roaming the woods of North Americaand beyond. However, you bring them
both up in the same encounter,now you've got something different, because which
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side of the unknown spectrum do youstart investigating that experience from the portal or
the cryptid right, you know,because now you've got two phenomena occurring at
the same time, and you mayyou may get researchers who are like,
no woo woo allowed, And youmay get researchers over here in the paranormals
(36:28):
in the portal section that are likeno Cryptid's allowed, you know, and
where it's all woo woo, andit's like we somehow or another, we've
if these things are crossing over together, if these phenomena are appearing at the
same time, we've got to beable to have a conversation together. Yeah,
we do, we do, Chris, have you had any personal paranormal
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experiences? I have? I have, I've had a few. The one
that always comes to mind one ofone of my first ones, I mean
really the first one that I evereven remember is I was probably about four
and a half years old. Welived in Crosby, Texas, and we
lived in a tiny little trailer house. Behind us was Miss Pat and I
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would go while my brother was atschool and help Miss Pat collect eggs things
like that. She'd watch me andmy brother all kinds of stuff. Between
our house. From what I recall, this is utter recollection. Between our
house was a rusted swing set,and I remember looking out at Miss Pat's
house one day and seeing a darkfigure standing next to the swing set beckoning
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me to come out oo. AndI don't know what I mean to me.
It was the devil like it wouldbe the quintessential devil Margie. And
once again, I don't know ifit's a trope that parped in my head
from a Devil Dam commercial in nineteenseventy eight, seventy nine, you know
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who knows, But that is myfirst vivid experience of something giving me the
chills. That wasn't on TV oranything like that. Where I was,
I was genuinely afraid of what wasoutside that window, and that would be
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the first one. That would bethe first one. Aside from that,
I had quite a few experiences withshadow people, especially in a sleep sleep
paralyzed state, and in one instancewithin a sleep paralyzed state, where a
shadow person actively grabbed me. Ohreally, you physically felt it? Yeah?
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Yeah, And that was hands downone of the most frightening experiences of
my life. I could not move, I could not respond, I couldn't
do anything but result to the kneejerk reaction for me was my connection to
the universe, my god. Ifyou call it that, what have you?
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I just I started praying and andeventually got to a point where I
could move and things dissipated and wentaway, and it was strange, but
that was even a huge breaking pointfor me faith wise, Margie. I
mean I I I spent my firstyear in college studying as a Catholic seminarian,
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like I I, and that wasbecause of what I truly believed to
be a religious experience where I wasbilocated to a place of eternal love and
joy. It was. It wasabsolutely amazing. So when I when I
went to my spiritual director at thetime with the shadow person grabbing me,
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they didn't really have an answer andtold me that the church didn't really have
a teaching on it, and thatdisturbed me. Like I own a copy
of it right over my shoulder inthe in the bookshelf is my copy of
the Right of Exorcism, Like I, I have those books. I have
that stuff, so I know thatthere is something in there. Is there
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something in the big Green Book theCatechism? Ah, you know, but
man, it was. It wasa big crisis of conscience for me and
a big spiritual awakening to something largerthan the scope I had been given and
the chest of tools that I hadbeen given to build and and create my
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spiritual world with, you know.So yeah, that began a lot of
esoteric searching in my life, alot of really beginning to understand different different
aspects of spiritual, different paths ofspirituality, different esoteric truths, different things
that many teachings, even in theCatholic Church were based on. You know.
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So, yeah, it was.It was very much a huge eye
opening experience for me and something thatled to what I would think and truly
believe is a watershed moment in mylife of truth and wisdom that took me
down a larger, bigger path.Well, yes, I don't believe in
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coincidences, and I think we allhave a path or a job to do
in our lifetimes, and I dowant to get to I want to play
this excerpt of one of the piecesyou sent me. It's called Acoustic Cinematic.
You want to tell us what thatis about? Acoustic cinematic? That's
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that think that that experiencer, Oh, experiencer, Here we go, Here
we go. I have a wholelist, no worries. I'm sure you
have tons of them like I do. Yeah, so what is this?
Experiencer is my latest album of binooral beat therapy music. I've i started
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a series called Music for Targeted Minds. The first one was made specifically to
help alleviate the symptomology of those thatare targeted individuals, people that believe themselves
to be targeted by things like Havanasyndrome, that kind of stuff. This
is Volume two which is made tohelp those that are that have experienced trauma
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from UFO abduction et experience close quarterscontact. One of the things that I
speak about regularly, especially with vibrationMargie, is the idea that experience like
this are very much like getting awatch near a magnet. The watch may
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work, but it will always beslightly off a paranormal event when it happens
to somebody, specifically, when you'rein the in the realm of technology and
frequency technology that it would take towarp space time to travel far distances in
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small amounts of time. That is, that is a massive range of frequencies
that you're dealing with, and thatcan be hard to once again retune yourself
to the world around you, muchless to be able to get rid of
the PTSD to be able to seeyourself as a normal person afterwards. So
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many people it takes them years sometimes, as I'm sure you know with your
work with people, takes them yearsto process these traumatic events and to be
able to get to the depth ofwhat this event actually means for them in
their life. So this album Experienceris made specifically to help retie those that
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have been through these traumatic events throughthese close quarters close contact events with extraterrestrial
entities extraterrestrial technology back to Schumann residenceto bring them back to a point of
love and understanding in their life,to help release some of the trauma that
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they may be holding on too fromthat experience. All right, well,
let me go ahead and play alittle bit of this so that everybody can
hear a sample. It actually thinksit's quite Oh, it's in there.
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Okay, I just want to givepeople a little taste of it. What
absolutely Yeah, I'll tell you whatit does to me. It just sits
again. I break my brain rightin a line, right in line with
the psychic center and third eye.Uh, and it's I can physically feel
(46:52):
it inside my brain. That isthat is incredible and awesome to hear.
Thank you so much. That ishuge implement especially from someone like you that
does as much meditation and and workwith people in that realm. Sev talk
said the same thing that it wasit was something that moved her to to
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other realm and that that's kind ofpart of part of the purpose is to
help people realize the fact that uh, that this should be shifting them to
another frequency. These these experiences aremeant and and they can be frightening because
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they're they're they're paradigm shaking, Margie. You know, the the turn of
phrase that I have lifted from uhKathleen Martin and Earl Gray is onto logic
shock. It's it's the idea thatwhen it happens to you, everything that
you know to be is rocked andchanged. Everything is different at that point,
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and you can't necessarily go to familyand friends with it because everything's different
and it can be hard. Itcan be hard for people to be able
to come out and talk about theirexperiences, to be open with them.
So I help. I created thisto help people be able to process that
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and to be able to get oversome of those fears and to be able
to get back to I guess,normal functioning amongst people who may not understand
what they've been through. I couldsee how this music, these creations would
(48:45):
help a person mentally. I mean, because you know, I could feel
it instantly. What about physically,how does frequency affect the body? Physically?
Frequency affects the body very very muchin the same way that it does
our brains. There there are numerousstudies showing UH rapid healing and burnwards things
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like that, specifically with frequencies thatare based and octaves of UH seven point
eight Herd Schumann resonance. Things likethat. Once again, are are we
We are swathed by frequencies and ourwhole body, specifically our brain. Our
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brain is just a big salt andfat transducer living inside of a big resonant
chamber. Like it's it's ready toreceive all of these things. And what's
interesting is we see a very verysmall slice We see and hear a small
slice of the electromagnetic spectrum, veryvery tiny slice of it all. And
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when you start looking at that,when you start considering what we actively see
and hear. Here here is achart that I normally use. Right there,
These are all the frequencies from onehurt all the way infrasound, you
know down there what whales use tocommunicate, you know, between one and
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ten would be once again, thatShuman frequency that Schumann residence but where you
see light on there is what wesee like there is, there is a
huge, huge, vast universe outthere that we do not see and hear.
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That's literally right adjacent, right adjacentto us and affecting us and affecting
us fully, you know, no, no different than the Moon's gravitational pull
is affecting us via a distance,you know, no, no different than
right now the Sun's solar cycle that'sgoing haywire. Like all of these things
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affect us because when when you startlooking at it from a very ninth grade
science point of view, Margie,we are not here. We we are
a conscious vibration, each one ofus a unique conscious vibration. That vibration
is attracting much like the you know, vibrations on anything well will attract things
(51:28):
to it. We are attracting,Mattie. Right now, you and I
despite distance, by all, byall known physics, we're sharing an electron
shell. That's that's just physics.So yeah, the idea that we ourselves
are vibration, we are, weare moved via vibration. We we take
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part in that. You know,it's it's pretty remarkable, pretty remarkable when
you start looking at people like uh, Maureen Sieberg, the author of Fear
Webade, she is a tetrachromic.She's somebody who's not only see red,
blue, and green, but yellow. So she has an entire million other
(52:10):
colors that her eyes can see andprocess that ours cannot. That's that's remarkable
to think about how she sees andprocesses the world in a different way,
in a totally different way, simplybecause of the vibrations that she is sensitive
to. You know, even evensaying that you you see color with music
(52:36):
things like that, it's an aestheticsvery much the same thing, you know.
It's it's your brain being vibrated ina in a different way than the
average listener. It it is.And as a person who sees vibration,
I see each each person I seevibrates at a different rate. And what's
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interesting is when a group of peoplegets together and they're vibrating at a high
rate, and let's say there's oneperson that comes in the group and hangs
around them for a while, theirrate of vibration goes up too. It's
so interesting to watch. Yeah,it is. It is very sympathetic,
(53:22):
you know, And I've I've saidfor years we are We are all accountable
for the vibration that we drag intoa room. We're all accountable for that,
you know, and and a lotof effects that we may not even
I was on an interview not toolong ago, and I guess it was
probably about a year ago, almostwhenever I released my Chakra Meditation album and
(53:46):
I had somebody tune in who wouldpurchase the album. They were they were
a reiki teacher, and they werelike I was. I was listening to
the Muladhara track, the first one, the root chakra, and and got
like physically moved emotionally like started weepingfor like forty minutes and could not stop.
(54:07):
And I don't know what that wasabout. I'm like, well,
seems like you maybe have something thatyou've just kind of like tilled over in
your garden. Like even though you'rea reiki master and meditate every day things
like, it doesn't mean that youdidn't like just glaze over something as you
were moving along, you know,like we all tend to do that.
(54:30):
So there may have been something thathappened that it just rang your bell,
you know, and you'd been okayuntil something hit you that deep. So
look for it, and that's justit, Margorie. We all, despite
our adeptness at being spiritual, despiteour adeptness at you know, being psychic,
(54:53):
clairvoyant, remote viewing, what haveyou, we all need a leg
up. We all need a littlebit of help. We all need to
be able to unplug sometimes and returnto that root. Note that we're all
a part of, you know,and what you're doing is another tool to
(55:15):
help us get to where we wantto be. How can people get a
hold of your music? The easiestway is my website that's on screen right
now, Artochristopher Jordan dot com.If you're a Roku user, actually,
the Art of Christopher Jordan is whereyou can go and purchase all the albums.
That's where you can go and purchasethe video meditation series. There's a
(55:38):
whole set of seven hour long videosfor each chakra that's available for sale all
kinds of things. There's also myfree Curious Realm Roku app, so if
you're a Roku user, there's someof the meditation music available there as well.
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You can find samples, decently longsamples about ten minutes long of all
of my hour long meditation tracks onjust about every platform out there. So
even though you can buy the hourlong track for about twenty bucks, you
can buy a ten minute sample forthe average of like a dollar fifty something
(56:21):
like that. So if it's somethingthat you know you just want to try
out, feel free to visit Spotifywhatever. Just look for Christopher Jordan.
All right, all right, we'lldo. Thank you so much for being
on the program. We're definitely goingto have some more to talk about.
Absolutely, we're just reaching the tipof it right now. I do know
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that much. And as a musician, you know, I'm very interested in
this. I'm gonna listen to yourentire album. I can't wait, and
I'll definitely report back. Thank youso much, Chris, thank you,
thank you everybody for listening tonight.I'll see you here again next week
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