Un_X News - Clyde Lewis

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:55):
Good evening and welcome everyone to unexed News. I'm your host,
Margie K. And before we get rolling tonight, I just
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of them that are really strange, so please check that
out at unex network dot com. Tonight, my special guest
is Clyde Lewis He's the renowned radio host, producer, and
conspiracy theorist, best known for his dynamic and thought provoking
show Ground Zero. Clyde Lewis has carved a niche in

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the realm of broadcast radio with his unique blend of
investigative journalism and discussion of paranormal phenomena. Clyde was born
in Murray, Utah, and has always had an innate curiosity
about the world's mysteries, which led him to a career
in radio broadcasting. Over the years, his passion for exploring
the unusual and unexplained has captured the attention of listeners worldwide.

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He began his career in radio in the early nineteen nineties,
quickly gaining recognition for his articulate and engaging style. His
show Ground Zero first aired in the mid nineties and
assists become a staple in late night radio. And of
course we carry Ground Zero here right here on the network.
And welcome to the show, Clyde.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I'm so glad to be here. It was great. It
was great talking with you the other night, actually on
my program. It was weird because I saw you in
my feed and I'm wondering, what is Margie up to
and you call me and I'm not going, Wow, that's synchronicity.
So it was great to get you. It was great
to have you on the show for a little little
bit of time. So it's good that we're back together again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Absolutely, And of course I wanted to have you on
the program for quite some time, and I thought, you
know what, this is the time because of these massive
UFO and drone sightings worldwide. We are in the middle
of a conundrum where nobody is giving us any explanations
for these things. And you have been on top of it.

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You've been covering this extensively on your show, and I
just wanted to kind of pick your brain a little
bit tonight to see what you think about some of
these weird theories and what you think really might be
going on. I'd had my own sightings the last two
nights and got video. Now, oddly enough, the first nine

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I was able to get some pictures and some video,
and I'm just going to show these here real quick.
My husband Chip saying, I see something hanging down from
this thing. Well I didn't until I took a picture
and I and I saw this one. He and I
were together, and then here's one. It looked kind of

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just very ill defined. And then this was a distance
picture from the place where we were were stopped. A
lot of these, you UFOs or drones or both, are
kind of this very strange morphine item or object or whatever.

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Lights They don't some of them don't seem to be
steady and like an object, like a hard you know,
inanimate object. They seem more flowing, like there's something living.
Have you seen some of the videos stills that are
along those lines.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of them, and quite frankly,
in the beginning, it was sort of a novelty to me.
I always say, you know, we're dealing with things coming
out of the sky. They are a threat to national security,
regardless of what you know you're being told. And when
I first saw it, I thought, oh, this is a novelty.
People are seeing a few drones here and there, and
that happens, and sometimes they're mistaken for UFOs. But then

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when I started noticing that we've had what fifty or
sixty in the sky. When you consider that, you know,
in the horizon, when you look up at the stars,
you get about nine hundred or so that you can
see from the sky or from the ground because of
light pollution. So you figure, if you have that many
stars that you can only see, how many of those

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are drones and how many of those are filling the
skies and how threatening that might be because it doesn't
look I mean in the night time, especially because those
drones look like classic qfos or they you know, if
you if you the runner lights of red and green,
some of them have but if you look at them,
a lot of them are new. And think of this,
They say that the size of an suv, Well, why

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don't we stop and think about one of the biggest
SUVs I can think of, and that would be an escalade,
which is a catallac escalode. Think of something that big
with wings or something that big with rotors flying over
your house. I think that's a little I mean, the
payload there is going to be pretty high with a
vehicle that big.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
That is is very intimidating to see something like that.
I have a witness in Sugar Creek, very very close
to me. She had one of these very large suv
sized drones land on top of her house two nights ago,
and then she said it shook the entire house it
was like it was the house was in an earthquake.

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And then by the time she got her camera and
ran outside, it was way up in the sky. It
had had left. And I know people are having encounters
like this, They're seeing strange things happen with these drones.
And in fact, I wrote an article about it the
other day when I first heard about this, and indeed,

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when I was listening to your show about it, I
thought they were our military or a bad actor, you know,
it just had to be one of those things. But
then there were some strange things that came up Clyde
that I've noticed with them, and that correlate with UFO sightings.

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And I've been a UFO investigator for a long time,
so this stood out to me. So car clocks and
microwave and stove clocks changed time. When one of these
objects flies overhead, you think of that with a UFO sighting.
You don't think of that with a standard drone sighting.
What kind of energy is being created to cause that

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camera batteries drain instantly? In you know, personal drones, people
trying to follow these things or their their regular camera
just drain instantly. That happens a lot with UFO sightings.
The size like you mentioned of an SUVs far larger
than any hobby drone. And if commercial drones can be

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that big, but they're extremely expensive. It's not something that
probably somebody's gonna throw fifty of these up at the
same time. That just doesn't make sense. They've been seen
in restricted airspace around airports, military facilities, including the Capitol Building,
but none of them have been shot down, so we
ask why, and you have brought that up. Often, some

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of the drones are seen after a large boom is heard,
and we're hearing these large booms in Kansas City, been
hearing them all over. One of my theories about that
is because I study portals, would it be possibly a
portal opening making that boom sound and then the drones

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come out of it.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Some of this, I mean, yeah, stuff that we don't
know about science, We don't know about where they're opening
up some electromagnetic rift going through that electromagnetic rift. I mean,
imagine the possibilities. I mean, back in the day where
Bob Bazaar had talked about the flying ships he sawed
Area fifty one, many of them, he said, would actually

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go in at a diagonal level, they would raise up
and then they it's like they would pull the the
the area towards them. So it's like the idea of
pulling the atmosphere everything, so instead of flying, it would
pull it to it, meaning that there'd be a lot
of energy there to yank that for it. And you

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can imagine, you know, when lightning strikes, you imagine what
happens to the ripple effect in the air that air
compression makes something which sounded like a boom or thunder.
Doesn't matter if it's you know, a plane going through
a sound barrier or what that rippling effect within the
air is where you hear your thunder.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
There you go. I knew you'd have an answer to that.
What is your overall I mean, when you first heard
about this, what were your thoughts about it? And have
they changed since?

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, my thoughts about it were that this was if
you remember, I guess it was like thirty nine days
before the event happened. It was Cliff High that said
on December third there was going to be an alien invasion,
and we laughed at that and kind of snickered about that.
But then on December third, when I was doing my show,
I was doing it up to the minute report on

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these drones, because they were everywhere, and it sounded like
a UFO invasion all the way down to the point
where the UFOs or whatever they were, were seen in
New Jersey, which was reminiscent of the War of the
Worlds with Orson Wells when he stated that Grover's Mill
was where the aliens had landed. I'd been to Grover's Mill.
It's a beautiful place, and I just thought to myself,

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how ironic, how synchronistic that the so called War of
the World's two point zero is happening in New Jersey
and what's going on is maybe what they're seeing are
believed to be drones, many many of my drones, because
they're examining and this is what a lot of people
say they've examined. They have looked at the horizon and

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you see drone after drone after drone, But what you
also see are orbs everywhere. And I have a colleague
of miney he says, well, this is another story that's
like the Foo Fighters. So I mean, it's a number
of things at the moment until we can pinpoint what
it is. I'm keeping a you know, I'm keeping a
pretty open stance about a lot of things. I mean,
I knew about a topic that was told to me

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by a guy who was a drone operator called Project Convergence,
which was something that the governments of the UK, United
States and Australia were working on with drone research, and
I was curious that maybe they were doing project this
project over New Jersey or over other places in the country.
I mean, more and more people are reporting these drone incursions,

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and so that's one of the possibilities is that we're
dealing with a psychological operation or a practice run where
you know, the government doesn't want you to know why
they're surveilling, but they're surveilling for a reason that if
the public knew, we would be terrified about it. And
so that's one of the situations that I lean towards.

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But the biggest one right now that I think is
kind of interesting, and it's all based on synchronicity. Okay,
it's all based on circumstantial, circumstantial empirical evidence, which you know,
most of the time doesn't hold up. But when you
have a hunch, which I've had hunches thirty years doing
this radio show, what's going on is that there was

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a program that was done many years ago, in fact
during COVID where they come up with something called Sears
twenty twenty five, which is a tabletop exercise where there
was a very very very contagious type of respiratory illness
called sears and it's seers. I'll figure out what the

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acronym is and just a bit. But anyway, they were
talking about Series twenty twenty five saying that it would
come from the sky, but whatever it is, it come
from the guy had come from the clouds and be
in the rain and be in the snow and people
would get sick unexpectedly. Well, days before the incursion of
these drones, Peter Hotez, who just happens to be one

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of the guys. He was kind of like the doctor
Fauci for the poor guy. He would come on TV
a lot and he'd threaten and say a lot of
things about pandemics. Well, just before the incursion of the drones,
he made a statement he said on January twenty first,
Donald Trump is going to have to deal with several pandemics,

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several plagues or whatever. And I thought that sounds like
a threat, you know. It was like, yeah, it's like
a threat, and I'm thinking, well, what would trigger this? Well,
of course a lot of things would trigger this, but
what could happen is I was reading about these bigger
drones and how they can carry anywhere between a three

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to five kilogram payload, and so I mean, that's not
very much, but still there's be enough if they had
aerosol capabilities, it'd be enough aerosol to at least drop
over a certain area and test it and see how
it works. They gain a function exercise, And you know
that doctor Fauci talked about gain of function. You know
that they quite possibly did this with COVID. I didn't say, yes,

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they did it with COVID. And now if you look
at the headlines, what's really creepy is that you have
people all over that area where the drones and showed
up saying, Oh, I'm getting sick, I'm getting puffy eyes,
I'm getting a running nose, I'm getting a cough. Well, duh,
it's flu season. But how convenient that a lot of
people aren't getting sick and they don't know what's making

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people sick. Its not COVID. Something else is making people sick,
and in the process you have stories around the story
type about things like bird flu. In fact, there was
an area just today I was reading that chickens are
dropping dead and animals are dropping dead, and they're saying
these bird flu and then they're talking about other people
that are getting bird flu. There was something to learn

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down in the Congo a couple of weeks ago where
people were having camorrhagic fevers and they were getting prions
in their brains, and we had a doctor come on
say that, yes, one of the one of the biggest
fears that they have is a prion outbreak. We're going
to be exposed to prions, and if that's the case,
we'll have people getting dementia at young ages. We'll get people,

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you know, wondering why their bodies won't work, and it's
because of the fact that they've exposed themselves to the vaccines.
They've exposed themselves to other things and other pollutants. And
so there's that actually something called micrometeorology where they are
studying the possibility. In fact, in France they said they
found pneumonia pneumonia bacteria in clouds and that you know,

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you look at the parts for billion, it may not
be effective but happen. But if you ever wondered, why
did you keep yourself I mean, we kept ourselves inside
during the pandemic. I didn't get COVID the whole time.
I didn't get COVID, and I went back. I didn't
get a vaccine, and so I need to because I
spent a lot of time indoors. Didn't go to the store,
didn't go downtown, didn't do anything, just went to the
office in my show and came back home. Well, now

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since Coach's on a round, I become more active and
I have bouts of cough, I have bouts of sneezing
or whatever. I know it has a lot to do
with the mold and the rain here in the Pacific Northwest.
But just the idea that for three years when COVID
was rampant, I didn't get sick at all. I wasn't sick.
And now I sometimes feel like I have the flu

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but I don't, or sometimes I feel like I'm having
stomach problems, and it's like it's just a weird feeling.
And I just saw a blog today where somebody had
posted Everybody's getting sick. Didn't specify, but he says where
I live Jersey. I am sick, my neighbors are sick.
Everybody's sick. So yeah, there you go. And I've always

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felt that the next attack on this country would be
a biological attack. But I mean, COVID's already happened, and
that was a I would say, a biological attack. And
now we have these other things that Peter Hotez talked
about saying, Oh, what's going to happen. It's going to happen. Well,
how's it going to happen unless they make it happen.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean that was that was a direct threat.
In my mind, it sounds like he knows exactly what's
going to happen. That means somebody has planned it. And
that the searies is a severe epidemic and tero virus
respiratory syndrome. That's a mouthful. It sounds like nothing that

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you want to have.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
And And that just brings to mind last night I
saw a drone over my office, very very close. It
was within within five hundred to one thousand feet eat
of me, and I took video of it and when
I tried to download the video, it would not download.
I have several videos and stills on an SD card

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that would not download. I also took video and stills
with my cell camera just in case, not thinking there
was anything wrong with the SD card in the camera,
and those will not download either. They will not download
onto my computer. And then as soon as I got home,
right after I got done doing that, I became very

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very nauseous for no reason, just extremely nauseous, and it
lasted for about forty five minutes. And now I'm wondering,
after what you said, if that is related to that
drone siding.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Well, you have to understand that I remember Jim Keith
back when I was first starting in radio, back well,
when I first started ground zero back in the nineteen nineties,
Jim Keith had written a book called Black Helicopter of America,
and I read that book. I was intrigued by that
book because living in Utah at the time, we lived
near Air Force bases like Hill Air Force Base, Tuela,

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Army Depot, Camp Williams. All these camps were within the
area and we were seeing black helicopters on a daily basis. Okay,
so I was fascinated by the black helicopters because obviously
they were a military Obviously they had to launch from somewhere,
and obviously they were flying low about five hundred feet
above my house every day. And so I said to him,
I said, you know, it's a normal occurrence here in

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rural Utah. I mean, it's kind of rural Utah at
the time. Now it's a city. But I'm just saying,
it's really weird that in rural Utah, I see these
things all the time. Jim, and I don't know what
to think of them because I just assume they're military.
I mean, I live in an area where I'm sure.
I mean, we have Twelo Army Depot and one of
the Area fifty one arms out here in Teuila, and

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then you have Hill Air Force Base, which is where
the JANA flights are dispatched for Area fifty one. Then
you have Camp Williams, where it's a pretty a pretty
big facility for the military. They're all surrounded by the
military there. Of course you're going to see some of
these things. But what was going on, Jim told me,
was that it wasn't just the fact that they thought

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they were military, but they were also swooping in actually
going in the I and S would pick people up
of course, round them up and take them back to Mexico.
They would sweep in and do dea bus some marijuana fields.
They would do all these things, different things that they
were doing, and no one could really pinpoint what was
going on with them. And then I think it was

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in nineteen well it was in the nineteen sixties, the
nineteen first nineteen sixties. They had dropped a certain amount
of poisoned zinc cadmium sulfide. They dropped over Saint Louis,
And they did it because they felt as though that
if they did it, they could see if they could
create a smoke screen big enough to hide targets. But

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what happened is that people inhaled this stuff. They had
lung problems. A lot of stillborn babies were had by women,
and the government had to admit. And in fact, they
settled out of court some ten years ago, or maybe
five years ago. They settled out of court after case.
It happened in the sixties and seventies, and then in
Nevada there were some black helicopters that sprayed over a field,

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killed all the cows and killed all the chickens, and
then all their plants wouldn't grow and then they started
to come down with you know, symptoms of you know, tiredness, lethargy,
you know, all of this. And they said, well, they
didn't know what it was, and so now they you know,
now we have the chemtrails, we have all this stuff

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going on. Yeah, and it's like they can find many
ways to spray, but how do we pinpoint and target
an area. We bring drones lower so this spread can
be a lot easier. And that's and that's what I fear.
I like I said, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence here.
I cannot say and go on the record and say yes,

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they're doing this, but I just thought I get kind
of weird and synchronistic, especially flu season. There's a lot
of plausible to diability. But we'll find out whether it
really is the flu or whether or not. Yes, bird
Flu's arrived, and they're just kind of like digging at
us because they want to have this. They want to
have this medical police state. They want to institute it
by May, and that's that's what they want. And people

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aren't going to go for it unless they have a
reason to worry about a new disease that has a
mortality rate that's higher than COVID.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
That is, that is a very scary thought. But one
of the things that I've considered is, first, these drone
signings were seen over major metropolitan areas near military bases,
you know, and it could could be anything. But now
they're being seen in rural areas and in my state
of Missouri, they have been seen in an area that's

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outside of Kansas City by some ways, and Independence thirty
drones were seen over Lake City Armyamo plant just a
couple of weeks ago. Now, two nights ago, I saw
them in a rural area forty five minutes outside of Independence,
in the middle of nowhere, and then here in Independence.

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And I've got people in very rural areas in North
Missouri that have been seeing them since the beginning of
November and chasing them, chasing them in their cars as well.
It's a very very strange acting. And also, like you
brought up earlier, some of these cases also involved balls
of light, which kind of act like they are probes

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of some type and then the big object comes in.
So in you know, my history of doing UFO investigations,
a lot of times people will see balls of light
first before they see a big UFO, and now that's
happening with the drones as well. I just wonder if
there's not a correlation, but your thoughts about some type

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of disease, is contamination being brought in? Sure they would
hit rural airs as well in the small towns as
well to spread it everywhere, wouldn't I.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well, yeah, yeah, I mean I I uh. The five
kilogram payload three kilo kilogram payload that I talked about
is primarily based on some information I got about a project,
the project we were talking about earlier, the convergence project,
and so that's the data that I had. But like

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I said, something about the size of an escalade, that's
what we're looking at, Okay, We're looking at something that
big that flies. Okay, and you look at the back
of an escalade and what it can carry. It could
probably carry a pay alottle bigger than five kilograms. You know,
we're looking at something and maybe ten, fifteen, twenty kilograms.
And if it's if it's aerosolized, it's an aerosolized machine,

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or it's an aerosolized type of you know, pathogen. It's
easy to drop from there, and it's easy to drop
at night when no one can see it. Uh, And
then they observe the areas where they were passing, and
they go and they basically see if I mean, I mean,
this cadmium sulfi that they drop had little phosphorus filaments

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in it, so they could at nite go by and
they can use the black helicopters to detect where it dropped.
So they knew exactly where it dropped because they had.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
More ha uh huh okay, hold that thought is right, yeah, Okay,
So we're up on a break. When we come back,
we're going to talk about phosphorus a little bit more.
We'll be back right after this race.

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Speaker 2 (27:56):
And we're back with unex News. I'm Margik and my
guess is evening is Clyde Lewis. We are discussing UFOs
and drones, mostly drones around the world. And before the break,
we were talking about phosphorus and we have a huge
phosphorus mining plant in Sugar Creek where we saw the

(28:20):
drone two nights ago hovering over for several minutes. And
that makes me wonder, why is who's interested in the phosphorus?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Well, that's the whole I mean, I had no idea
that that was the case. I mean, maybe they are
loading up on that and they're they're using it within
whatever the aerosol is so they can see it at
night when they're flying over exactly when they dropped it.
And there were times, I don't know if you remember,
you remember whenne Hunter got flew? Do you remember that program? Oh? Yeah,

(28:57):
you do. It was a while ago. There was it
was during H five and one. And what it happened
is there was a some sort of a excuse me,
a survey going on where they were asking people if
they have the flu. It was a terror flu actually promotion,

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and so you'd call what eight hundred got flu, and
they would take down information about about where you get,
where you got the flu, what city you're in, and
then for your time and your effort, they would send
you a package of terra flu to take. And I'm
like thinking, who is behind that? You know, what are
they thinking? It's because again it sounds a lot like

(29:41):
a gain of function exercise.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
It does? It certainly does.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah. I mean you get people sick and then you
say to them, hey, can we ask you how sick
you are? One eight hundred got flu? And for your time,
we're going to send you a free trial pack of
terraflu and you can take it to make you feel better,
and then we want to get your results again and
put you in a database.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well who benefits from that? The uh, the pharmacies, no,
you know, no doubt?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, uh okay, who provides us? Who provides us our medications? Who? Who? Yeah,
the pharmaceutic medications? Well who where does the pharmaceutical manufacture
their medications? China? Mm hmmm, So China, when you got
you got twenty three and meters, you've got all of
these different spin in the cup things where you spit

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in the cup, and then they have the data on
your DNA. They send it to China and they know
exactly what they can do to make a disease that
focuses on blue eyed, brown haired people, or they have
they have a way to develop DNA vaccines that could
affect certain people and kill certain people.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, it's all, it's all scary stuff. I pull up
some information. Well, I watched the hearing and okay, mister
Wheeler from the FBI stated, we do not know what
these drones are or where they come from. How confident

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is are we with this?

Speaker 3 (31:20):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
At the lawmakers are upset obviously, but somebody is keeping
a big secret, not telling anyone anything. I don't think
that there has ever been anything like this at this
scale in the United States before, has there?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Right? I don't think so. No, I mean, I I
don't know if you know, if you if you count
the Kem Trail controversy, then yes, we're having a massive
spraying right now. Who knows what to us? Who knows
whether it's pacifying us. Something's up because Americans don't have
their fighting spirit any and and so whatever they're maybe

(32:03):
they're dropping cognatives on everybody who knows what they're doing
with the camp trails. We know the aluminum and bury
them and all these things are in the in the camtrails,
or so I say. The aerosol stratospheric injections is what
they call them in the military. So I mean, there
you go. You know, we have a program where they
can test. I mean, there was something a while back

(32:23):
called mk Naomi, and that was where they did test
on I mean San Francisco. They brought in ships in
the Bay that would actually make fog so it looked
like the fog that usually comes in from the Bay,
and the fog had ceratia in it, Okay, and they
wanted to test to see if ceratia could be picked

(32:47):
up by human beings in the Bay area and whether
or not the Bay area would be a good vector
for some sort of a biological attack on the United States.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Oh boy.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Debbie Zigelmeier is the state director for Missouri Muffon And
she got two videos, one a couple of nights ago
and when last night of a drone in Saint Louis.
I'm just going to show that real quick, all right,
And she said it was loud and the noise that
it made. It sounded like a much much bigger like

(33:26):
a plane or a helicopter. Yeah, the noise, she said,
it was about the size of an suv. It was
headed towards a top secret facility in Saint Louis where
they do mapping projects, and both nights the a drone
headed in that direction towards that facility. It's scary. This

(33:52):
is scary, Clyde. I mean, there are the only other
thing is Kemp Trails that I've been really scared of.
People who have had UFO abductions been abducted there. That's
a scary thing. This is worse, I think because it's
totally unknown. We don't know if they're bad actors from
other states, if we're therefore being invaded by aliens, or

(34:15):
if our own government is doing something to us to
lower the population.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Well that's another thing too, is that they're project what
do they call it, the oh my god, the Sustainable
Goals that they have for the New World Order, for
the for the World Economic Forum, their ideas to depopulate
the planet. And they're they doing everything they can to
depopulate the planet. If you look at something called the
Deal Report, they're saying that we're going to see a

(34:44):
substantial reduction in population in the year twenty twenty five.
So it looks like it's going to be one hell
of a ride in the next year. And a lot
of people are going to die because of something, whether
it be a disease or nuclear war. Who knows what
we're going to have to deal with.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean everybody's expecting something. I mean we're
just sitting on the edge of our seat waiting for
the next big thing. Now, another thing I wanted to
point out is that I checked with moof On and
in uforc UFO sightings have increased by forty to sixty
percent across the US, seemingly unrelated because of the description

(35:25):
of these objects, but I wanted to know, what do
you think about it being connected to the drones.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Well, here's the thing too, and another venue to go down.
Prior to the drone incursion, we had ninety eight reported
UFOs during the Thanksgiving weekend. Now this the drone situation
began just before Thanksgiving, and so we had the ninety
eight percentile report. The report of these UFOs were orbs. Okay,

(35:53):
many of them were these plasm what they called plasmoid orbs,
and they were seen in the skies and then all
of a sudden, we start seeing the drones. And this
is where I formulated the opinion that what if they
are seeing something strange in the sky. Pilots reporting UFOs
over the Pacific northwest flying in score corkscrew formation, they
were doing a number of things, and I'm thinking, well,
what if we're seeing all of these UFOs coming. And

(36:16):
in order to divert the attention for the UFOs, we
decide to launch a group of drones in the sky
to get people to just say, well, they were drones.
How are you going to say? They're UFOs? Their drones?
And see, that's the other thing too, is that you
can easily divert the possibility of the public seeing something

(36:37):
unusual and keeping it under wraps by bringing in a
bunch of drones to confuse people. So it's like the
magician's trick where you know, they distract you with another
card and you pick the card they want.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Anyway, you know, I thought of that too, and it
would be a nifty trick because yeah, you would be
able to say, oh, that was just drones. There's no
UFOs there's nothing to see here, there's no ETS here,
and you know, and this is a little bit, a

(37:10):
little bit on the strange side, but I'm going to
bring it up. I do readings for people, do remote
viewing readings for people. The last two years, every single
person has said to me, I feel like there's something
really really big coming up with UFOs, that it's ET related.

(37:31):
And of course these people don't know each other. I
don't tell them anything. They come up with this on
their own. They have a feeling. And most of these
people actually are ET contacts, a contact ees of some sort.
So that makes me wonder what big thing is coming
that has to do with UFOs. Maybe this is it.

(37:55):
Maybe these well.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Well, another thing you can consider too is if you know,
a lot of UFO stories don't throw in the component
of biological weapons. And if you go back to H. G.
Wells and the War of the World, what were the
aliens doing? They were not only you know, the tripods
were not only going through Britain, but they were dropping
off some red mist that they said was killing people, okay,

(38:19):
and that red mist was creating these red veins going
through the land. And that's some of the story. That
people don't hear. I mean, if you watched George Pal's
version of The War of the World's you don't see
that now, And the new one that they did with
Tom Cruise, you do see that, but you don't hear.
What they were doing is they were not only you know,
using biological weapons to render us helpless, but then our

(38:40):
biologicals killed them, and it was just our bacteria that
they weren't used to that killed them. So it's the idea.
And oh, how about the movie's signs. How did the
aliens kill the people? They didn't just go down and
start scratching and killing them and wrestle with them. No,
they had this stuff in their hands that would spray
some sort of a biological chemical into them that would
kill them. So a lot of the time, aliens and

(39:03):
biological weapons or aliens in biological attacks have been hand
in hand in a lot of stories because the aliens
bring with them all kinds of diseases that we're not
used to. You know, It's like Columbus when he came
to the New World. You know, he brought with them,
brought with him smallpox, diarrhea, all these things. And yeah,
they killed off people so I mean, if you if

(39:27):
you think that maybe we have an infiltration or an
incursion of UFOs where they're spraying this with something, that's
another possibility. There's so many different possibilities. When they tell you,
we don't know what they are, but listen to us,
we know what to do about them. You ever found
that interesting? And same with COVID. Oh yeah, we don't
know anything about COVID, but please do as we say
because we know something about what needs to be done.

(39:48):
That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
And they say, we don't know what they are, but
we don't think there's a credible threat. Really, how do you.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Assess that If you don't know what they are, you
don't know what their purpose is exactly, and it creates
The other.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Day, Trump said he knows that the president and the
government knows what's going on, but they're not sane. So
to me, that means he has been briefed, but he
cannot speak about it. Do you think he'll talk about
it after the inauguration?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
No? I don't really I'm hoping what I'm thinking, No,
I'm thinking they wanted to fade away. I mean, they
now have this ability to get out of the public
eye in fact, if you look at the national news,
for some reason, they didn't learn anything from the past election.
All they do is talk about politics. It's all they
talk about. And that's why people tune out because they're

(40:47):
getting stories from the alt media that are connected to
stories some politics, of course, because it's a part of
our lives. But I just think that that, you know,
they avoid stories like this because as long as they
don't smoke the fires. I mean, how do you get
somebody to have a story die? You just ignore it.

(41:09):
You ignore the story, and people think, well, I guess
it's all over now because I didn't see it on
the nightly news. Mm hm exactly. So I also thinks
that's the point.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
And I also think that the number of drones being
cited are not being reported by the media. And the
reason I say that is I've watched a couple of
different charts and maps where they say, oh, these are
the states where the drone sightings have been. Well, they're

(41:42):
living out a bunch of states because I'm geting reports
from Nevada, Arkansas, Missouri of course, and other places. Minnesota,
they're not on the map and they're only seeing Yeah,
there's been five thousand drone sightings around the world. Well,
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
I think we can.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Probably take that times twenty. So the media is complicit
in this too, in not talent giving us the entire truth.
And so I wonder about what their motives are.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yes, that's the point of it. They don't want I mean, look,
do they want to come out and say, oh, by
the way, this is a part of a psychological operation
to test our reaction to an invasion of either aliens
or an invasion from a hostile actor or hi. This
is a psychological operation where what we're doing is we're
flying into various areas near important sites, and we're actually

(42:39):
spraying them with some sort of a biological weapon that
will eventually mature and incubate for a few days and
then people have full on, full on bird flu. See.
This is the thing is that they don't want to
tell you because there's some sort of operation that either
we're carrying out and it'll be a false flag. It

(43:00):
does get brought up, it will be a false flag.
They'll say, well, Iran was doing it or some other
country was doing it, when in reality we were doing
it to ourselves.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Well, our government was doing it to us. Yeah, Oh
my goodness. Well, we're in the thick of it. I
know you're going to keep covering this subject as am I,
but I did want to move on to another subject
based on your show last night that I found very interesting,
and since it's right before Christmas, why not, right, So

(43:35):
you discussed Charles Dickens a Christmas Carol and the movie
It's a Wonderful Life, and you took a look at
the dark side of that and some of the yeah,
kind of physics side of it as well, and I
was wondering if you would just kind of go over
that very briefly.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Well, I think if you go back and you remove
all the jingle bells and all of the festive type
of I guess you could say trappings of the stories
of Scrooge and the trappings of the story of Bailey,
George Bailey, I think you'll find that, you know, they
should reissue these movies as Christmas horror and science fiction,

(44:16):
and that at the time that they were written, especially
in the eighteen hundreds with Dickens, Dickens had opened the
door for all kinds of paranormal thought processes, including ghosts,
out of body experiences, you know, time travel, being able
to time travel. But the problem that he had was

(44:38):
that he was speculating about time travel without reoccurring the
idea of a paradox, because we have Scrooge seeing himself
in the present, past and in the future. That would
create a paradox. But still he wrote he wrote Scrooge
a Christmas Carol prior to HG. Well's writing his story
about the Time Machine, So the idea of time travel

(45:00):
and maybe, like I think, three years after the Time
Machine was written, it was Tesla that said, well, I
found a way to do time travel. So who knows.
Maybe the idea of time travel was inspired by Charles
Dickens and his little story about a man that travels
through time. Otherwise we're seeing a story where a man
dies three times before Christmas and is getting a lesson

(45:23):
in how to be reborn when they find him in
a Popper's grave in the future. As far as George
Bailey is concerned, here we have a man who decides
that he wants to kill himself. That's pretty dark. And
then an angel shows up or I mean you can
say an angel or some sort of an alien or
some sort of a supernatural being shows up and says, Okay,

(45:44):
this is what your life would be like if you
were dead. This is what your life would be like
if he never existed. Okay, So that's another tinkering of timelines,
another tinkering of the possibility of a paradox. And so
just the idea of I mean, this is like the
grandfather paradox, where you know, people say, well, go back
in time and kill my grandfather, I won't exist. Well,
instead of killing the grandfire, they just remove the substance altogether.

(46:07):
And so these are some pretty fascinating quantum ideas that
are presented at Christmas time. And one of the biggest
quantum ideas is Santa Claus. I mean, look, I know
a lot of people are saying, well, you know Santa Claus.
You know you have to tread lightly with Santa Claus.
Either you don't tell the kids, or you do tell
the kids or whatever. No, it's a very good mythology,

(46:28):
but it can be spun into a lot of education
as well, where we talk about the reality of what
can happen and the mythologies that can't happen and because
of physics. But when quantum physics come to play, when
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle comes to play. We treat Santa Claus
as an atom. The smears everywhere. We don't know where

(46:48):
he is exactly, but we have to assume he's there
because in the hearts of children, they believe that there
are presents put under the tree by Santa Claus, and
so in the ethers, Santa exists. In the ether a
child can shake hands with Mickey Mouse. And that's an
area that people like you, Marjorie play in. You know,
you play in those areas because you're a remote viewer.
You play those areas because you're able to go into

(47:13):
dream time, dreamscapes collected unconscious as Carl Junga talked about.
All those things are real if we were able to
manifest them. In fact, one of the things that Dickens
said is he said the first step to time travel
is recall the minute you can recall something that happened
to you in your past. That you can recall the detail.

(47:33):
All you have to do is contemplated over and over again,
and you're back in that time frame. That's a simple recall.
That's like, there's nothing magical there. The brain can do that.
So what we do is we find a way instead
of transmitting consciousness into a computer, we find a way
to transmit recall into a computer, and then a computer
can put us in a simulation where we're living through

(47:55):
that time period again, where loved ones are back, where
you know, old dogs we have that have passed away
or back with us. It would be a lot of
fun to do that rather than, you know, putting yourself
in a lonely position in a simulation where all you're
doing is a standing around as an icon doing nothing.
You're an NPC, you're a non player. And I think

(48:15):
that just the idea of Christmas, and the idea of
all these quantum ideas that haven't been even put into
play yet because no one's had the time or effort
to do so, bring hope to people, because that means
that the theory is is that we do have a
quantum life, that life is forever and it always is
based on light, light frequency and love. And so what

(48:37):
a great way to think of life after death, What
a great way to think of how the spring and
in the winter, you know, spring is birth, Winter's death
and the spring comes again as a promise. That's always
been a cycle that's always been the meaning of Christmas
is that in the darkest of times we seek the light,

(48:57):
and the light has always been a faith in a savior,
the faith in the Messiah, the faith in someone who
will deliver us and save us from all the perils
we feel in the winter time. And that's why I
think a lot of people need to look forward to
at least if they can't think of an existence here,
think of yourself on a quantum level and realize that
everything you do is important. It's part of the time continuum.

(49:20):
You contribute to it, whether you know it or not.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
That's a really good message for people, especially this time
of year. A lot of people feel lonely and isolated,
and you know if their family members are missing. Yeah,
dig into your memories about your family and your loved
ones who have crossed over. That is how you can
time travel.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
And then the creation part. I believe that there is
a Santa Claus. The reason is I think it is
a thought form that has been created by humanity. And
it's also similar to the slender Man and other things
like that.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
You're right, you're right.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Out with a story and a myth, and then it
becomes real and I know because I have seen it myself.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
This well, I had an experienced, Oh you've seen slender Man. Well,
I had an experienced one year where I put my
foot on the way home from school. My father broke
his leg in an accident, and I couldn't go out.
I was a teenager. I could have got out and
done Christmas shopping for my family and have presents under
the tree. It was a year where we weren't going
to have any presents under the tree. One night, it
was very foggy, and this is the true story, very foggy,

(50:31):
very snowy. We get a knock at the door. Standing
there is this man, really big guy. He wasn't fat.
He was just this big, husky guy. He had a
Texas accent. He was wearing dark glasses. He had the
Santa hat, the Santa suit. It was a rudimentary Santa suit.
The beard was you know, fake. But the thing is
is he was there and in his car were presents.

(50:54):
In the car. He brought them in. He sat him
in front of the tree and he said ho ho ho,
thank you. And it was weird because he just disappeared.
And so it wasn't a traditional Santa it wasn't. I mean,
in fact, he was scary looking. He was like Bigfoot
at Santa Claus. It was huge, and he dropped off

(51:15):
presents at our house and there were things we wanted
for Christmas, I mean us kids we wished for and
they did show up and they were they were under
the tree, and that really, I mean, whoever that was,
I'll never know who that was because I didn't recognize him.
I had no clue who he was because usually you
can figure out who's wearing the beard, who's wearing the suit.

(51:35):
Didn't know who he was, didn't care. All I know
is my family got presents for Christmas and we didn't
know who the Santa Claus was. It was Santa to me,
and that will never leave my mind because it just
boggled my mind that Santas showed up even though we
didn't believe in him.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Clyde, I just remote viewed it. I can give you
an answer if you want.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Okay, sure, there was a man.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
And a message got to him by h probably your
higher selves, I'm not sure, but a higher vibration got
to this person told him what to do. He didn't
even know what he was doing. And then when he
was done and got home, he forgot about the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
You know that sounds like I in my heart, I
think that's true. I mean, I I don't know it,
but I get the inkling that you're right, because it
just sounds comfortable to me that somebody, not even knowing
why he was doing it, did it, showed up, probably
came home, and if you were to confront him and
say you were Santa that night, he'd probably say, I

(52:50):
don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
No, he would not happen. It does happen.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
That's another thing about it. The thing about the quantum
Santa idea or Santa effect is that we always want
to see the real Santa. Well, what if Santa Claus
is Tachion? What if the spirit of Santa is Tachyon?
And that every year we somehow get this Tachion type
of stuff attracting to us and it changes us in

(53:17):
ways that we don't normally act. And then when it's
all over, we go back to being our grumpy selves,
We go back to being our you know, business as
usual selves. But at Christmas time, something's different, something's different
about us at Christmas time. Either we get very depressed
or we get very happy, we get very joyous. It's
because there's some sort of a vibrational string type of

(53:39):
thing that gets into us and it creates that type
of I guess you could say mental illness if you
want to call that, or psychosis where we have Christmas
psychosis or something to that effect. I don't know what
you'd call it, but it's just the idea of if
you believe in tachion particles, which again are just as
hyper it's just as hypothetical as black holes. But if

(53:59):
you believe in black holes, if you believe in Tachyon particles,
then you may even want to try and believe in
Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Most excellent, Clyde. How can people listen to your show?

Speaker 3 (54:14):
I'm everywhere. I'm on the on Exit Network, which is awesome.
I'm also on ground zero Dot Radio, which is our
twenty four hour paranormal station as well. We have one,
but there's We have also what is called our little
digital playground where you can listen to past shows. You
can talk with people in our chat room. We have
social media. We have If you want to do research

(54:37):
with documents, you can look them up in our documents section.
We got videos that are interesting. It's at aftermath dot Media.
It's a subscription, but it's ten bucks for all that stuff.
And every once in a while, well once a month,
I show up and we have a chat just like
you and I are having right now. And it's just
my way of getting to know the listeners. We become
one big family in the process. It's really awesome. I

(54:59):
get to see so of the listeners and we all
care about each other. We had one listener that disappeared
for a while, come to find out she was in
the hospital. But see, that's the thing is that it's
a community that cares for one another.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Family.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
We all are together. We're family, and it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yep, yep, we've got it. We're family here too, and
and we're glad to have you as a member of
our family. So thank you so much for spending some
time with us tonight. I know you're a busy guy.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
And yeah, got the show tonight about the startup, whether
it was a UFO or something else. So there we go.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I'll be listening cool, all right, Thank you so much.
Clyde Clyde Lewis with Ground Zero. Don't miss the show
starts at nine o'clock Central time tonight, and he goes
for three hours. It's and it's always good, always most
excellent show. Thank you so much for joining me this evening.

(55:54):
I'm Margie K and I will see you here again
next week.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Tagish each package, each

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Each cha