Un-X News_ Rey Hernandez - A Greater Reality_ One Man_s Journey of Discovery

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's time for the unexed News New Extraterrestrials, time anomalies,
dimension dimensions, remote viewing, UFOs, UAPs and USO's, ghostly encounters, abductions, Bigfoot,
and more more, your end of the week news source

(00:39):
for everything everything unexplained. Here is your host for the
unex News podcast, Margie K.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Good evening, everyone, and welcome to onnexed News. I'm your host,
Margie K. And this evening, we're going to get right
to it because we have a very special guest, my
friend Ray Hernandez. Ray is a PhD candidate at the
University of California at Berkeley. He's retired counsel for the

(01:21):
US Department of the Treasury, President and Chief Counsel for
the Consciousness and Contact Research Institute known as CCRII. He's
also the co founder of the Doctor Edgar Mitchell Free
Foundation and author or co author of nine academic books
on the relationship between consciousness and contact with non human

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intelligence via the Contact Modalities, with many other PhD academics
and medical doctors. Welcome to the program, Ray, Thank.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
You, Margie, thank you for the kind invitation.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, it's so good to see you again and have
you back on show, because I know since the last
time I had you on you have been very, very
busy doing a lot and Gully, we're just going to
have to get right into it. But I think for
some of my listeners who don't know your history, could
you give us a brief description of what got you

(02:20):
interested in the subject of UFO's paranormal consciousness and contact.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, I was basically slept in the face into this
new reality. I had been previous to my work as
an IRS tax attorney. I dealt with the state Texas.
I was a professor for many years, and then back
in twenty twelve, my wife and I had an experience

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with an energy being in our living room that made
my wife disappear, our dog who's totally paralyzed. We're going
to be euthanizing her later that afternoon. Put them both
into another reality and put me to sleep. And when
I woke up an hour later, my dog was completely
healed from a total paralysis and was running around the

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entire living room and my wife had an hour of
missing time. That's what started, and after that was just
NonStop paranormal experiences.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
That would be enough to wake anybody up and make
them realize that there is a lot more going on
in the world than you know is immediately recognizable in
our three D world. So your your world changed to
ultra dimensions in a split second, basically so that it

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was tell us about your relationship with doctor edgar Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, I guess a good way to start it is
that uh, as part of these normal related experiences that
I began to have after that initial experience in my
living room, I began to have a series of orchestrated events,
and there were numerous of them, usually three days in
a row. That's how these experiences would engage themselves. Back

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in May of twenty thirteen, I was driving my car
going to work at eight thirty in the morning, and
I was literally taken outside of space and time into
another multi dimensional reality. And there I was shown what
I'm now, what my work is now, which is the
relationship between consciousness and the paranormal contact modalities. I was

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shown that all of the paranormal, which I called the
contact modalities, they're all interrelated. They should not be viewed
as separate and distinct phenomenon. And I was shown how
it works. I was shown what is consciousness, which is
the whole structure of the mind of God, and that

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the mind that humans are actually going through different layers,
different dimensional planes via diverse experiences, and non human intelligence
can come down to us from other multi dimensional realities.
And so I was literally given a blueprint of how
a greater reality works together with the death process and

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the near death experience process, out of body experiences astro
travel experiences, which are very different from out of body experiences.
And then when I was brought back to the car,
no time and space had elapsed because I was still
listening to this interview of this man that was doing

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a documentary on his light boat section. He was doing
art fat from it. And then when I got home,
I got an email from Mary Rodwell, who, as you know,
is one of the world's major researchers on UFO contact experiences,
and she had been working for more than three thousand,

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five hundred individuals that have had UFRO related contact experiences.
So her email went like this. It says, d Ray,
I'm sorry that I'm responding to an email that you
had sent me six months ago, but it just popped
up on my computer today the day of that astral
travel experience, and then we spoke to like one thirty

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in the morning, you know my time, And then I
told her, look, I got to go to work tomorrow.
So we agreed to set up a time to talk
again the following day. But at nine thirty in the morning,
I got a phone call. Hello, is this Ray Hernandez?
I said, yes, who is this, Doctor Rudy Seals? I said, who? Well,
Doctor Rudy Seals became one of the co founders, together

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with the late doctor Ega Mitchell and Mary Rodwell, of
the Doctor Edgar Mitchell Free Foundation, and Rudy was an
emeritus professor of astrophysics at Harvard University. He used to
work very closely with the late doctor John mac and
so I told him. He asked me what happened to me?
Because Mary told them about my experiences, and my experiences

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included physics downloads and consciousness types of downloads about the
nature of our reality, and that's what Rudy was interested in.
And Edgar, so he heard me, said, Ray, what you
got was doctor Edgar Mitchell's quantum hologram theory of consciousness.
And then he says, I'm going to talk to Edgar
after we hang up and encourage him to work with you,

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because I was given a clear mission, and the mission
in the summarise format was you need to inform humanity
of the relationship between us, the spirit world and consciousness.
And I could talk about that later on, but we'll
be here all night. But then he gave me Edgar's
tak Off phone number. I called him up and Edward

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invited me to his home. So that was I appeared
at his home within forty eight hours of that initial
out of body, out of travel astual travel experience, and
so at Edgar's home, I was there like six hours
and eventually was at Edgar's home more than twenty different times.

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I was in the hospital two days before he died,
and so we became very close friends, and he became
my mentor. And so at Edgar's home was when the
Doctor Eger Mitchell Free Foundation was organized within forty eight
hours of that astual travel experience.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Well, and there are no coincidences, as you well know,
all these synchronicities. It seems like when the student is ready,
the mentor appears, or a new ability of peers, as
I can attest to because every year around my birthday,

(09:05):
I get a new skill and I wonder if in
any of your studies, if you're finding that to be
true with with anyone that has said that you've interviewed
or studied.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, I've learned that, first of all, I call them
orchestrated events, series of orchestrated events, because synchronicity is just
too soft of a term. These are orchestrated by the
mind of God. And what I've learned is that the
major contact experiences individuals like like yourself, okay, their lives

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have been that a series of orchestrated events to guide
them on their path towards obtaining you know, deeper understanding
of our nature, of our reality and and and Uh.
But but in terms of specifically the birthday question, I've
never heard of that. But I have heard is that

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increasingly over the years they get increased, usually psychic abilities.
Everyone gets in the beginning precognitive type of experiences. That's
like the norm, okay, but then you begin to have
more stronger precognitive abilities, like you're visually seeing things that

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are going to occur, or you have uh, telepathic downloads,
which is very very common. Uh, that's happened to me,
you know, since my experience is like don't quant that door,
don't quant that door, or like, go out the door,
go out the door, and then I don't do it.
If you're hesitant, they'll yell at it, you know. And
so so these are all as you, no, Margie, you've

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heard of a million times. These are all very common
types of experiences that major experiences go through. And what
it is, from my understanding now, is that we're dealing
with what I call the mind of God, which is
this higher contraciousness which is working with each of us
at an individuated level. I call what people refer to

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a soul or a spirit. I call it my individuated
unit of consciousness. And that's a term that was borrowed
by Tom Campbell, the noted ob E UH A n
D excuse me O b E and astral travel experiencer
uh from Robert Munroe. He actually was Robert Munroe's I

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would say mentor in many ways. And it's just a
brilliant man who I consider the world's major astral travel experiencers.
And so he refers to who we are is as
individuated units of consciousness, that we're internal spiritual beings.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I'm interested in uh, space, time, and in fact, I
just had something happened to me yesterday where I was
taken out of time twice while driving, and I saw
I saw a woman come out of a door, turned
the corner of her house, and she was carrying a
red bag. And then as I passed the house, she

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came out of the door again. So this is two
seconds later with the same bag in the same manner.
And I looked where the I first had seen her
turn the corner of the house, and there was nobody there.
So that happened. And then a few minutes later I
drove by Captain D's on Nolan Road here in Independence

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and it was boarded up. All the signs were taken
down and it was old and dilapidated looking. And then
so I drove by that, I went to another place,
and then when I pulled out of the other place,
Captain D's was back to normal. Everything was as it was.
So we're talking about, you know, time anomalies things like that.

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Do you think that there's a manipulation of space time
involved with the contact modalities?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Oh, one hundred percent. That's the number one commonality of
all of the common contact modalities, and number one modality
common mentality I'm on because well, let's take a look
at it, Margie. Right, with the near death experience, is
there a manipulation of space time? Obviously, because your individuated

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unit of consciousness, your soul, is being brought to another
multi dimensional reality. Okay. With an out of body sperience
or an astral travel experience, is there a manipulation of
space time obviously because your soul, your spirit, your individuated
unit of consciousness, is being brought to other multi dimensional realities. Okay.
And then with the UFO contact phenomenon, okay, we were

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able to establish without a shadow of a doubt that
the UFO contact phenomenon involves in manipulation of space time.
For example, fifty percent of these individuals were brought to
another multi dimensional reality. So these are the four three
hundred and fifty people that took our surveys who answered
that yes, I saw a UFO and that yes, I've

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had some type of contact with a non human intelligence. Okay,
out of body experiences. Eighty percent of these people were
having out of body experiences. As you know, it's an
extremely common phenomenon for UFO contact experiences, and they don't
have to be major experiences. It could be someone that's

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just seen one or two UFOs, okay, not people like
yourself and I that I've had many UFO sightings and
in my case, very up close, these huge objects right
on top of me. And so with remote viewing, okay,
you've done it before. Okay, you've taught classes on it.
Your mind goes out of your body into another dimensional

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reality and you're things. Okay, you're visually seeing it, yeah,
your mind, Okay, that's that's the manipulation. It's spacetime because
you're physically in your home, for example, Okay, but yet
your mind is some other location. So seeing a ghost
or a spirit, a ghost spirit is seeing someone that's
already dead. Okay, they should not be in your front,

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in your living room looking at you. Okay, but yet
how many people do you know? How many people have
seen Aunt Matilda a week after she gets buried?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
You know?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Is Aunt Matilda real or not real? Is she physical
or not physical? Well the answer is both, you know,
And so that involves the manipulation nation it's spacetime. Hallucinogenic
journeys Okay, you take you know, DMT or magic mushrooms
or something like that I've tried it once and Jesus
Christ right in front of me in a lotus position

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helping me to heal my friend who's next to me,
and I became a shaman okay, from from beyondes Okay.
So that was a total manipulation of space time because
I knew I was a shaman and I hear him
breathing on top of this guy. So it's all of

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the experisons. That's the number one commonality in manipulation of
space time.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
And you know there are To me, it seems like
there's an increase in people willing to come forward to
discuss events like this, and just under the paranormal umbrella
with everything ghosts of time travel UFOs ets standing in
front of you, all of that has to be related

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and it seems like they're more willing to talk about it.
But do you think that these experiences are actually increasing
in number? Do you think we've been stepped up in
vibration UH and more people are having experience.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I don't think they've increased the number. I think it
is that people are now opened up because everywhere there's
a YouTube, you know, show on on on Netflix and
all these UH programs on TV, on on on the
on the web as well. They're all over the place.
So before you and I are old enough to know

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that at one time the web number existed, okay, it's
where do we get our information via books? Okay, but
now it's readily accessible everywhere. And let me tell you
a little side story, Margie. I wrote my book The
Mind of God. Uh it's called titled The Mind of God,
a Spiritual virtual reality model of Consciousness and the Contact Modalities.

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So I wrote that as a prelude to my sixth volume,
a Greater Reality book series. Okay, And the way I
started off our book was to show first of all,
that the time is ripe for all of these things
to come out at pretty much just the same exact time,

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which is in the early nineteen seventies. For example, Robert
monroe book Higher Journeys about out of body and actual
travel experiences was in the early seventies. It was nineteen
seventy two. Raymond Moody's book on near death experiences Life
After Life, was nineteen seventy five. I argue that the
UFO concept began to circulize circle all around the world

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once Star Trek got syndicated Okay, because yeah, people have
been talking about UFO since the Roswalt crash. Okay, but
that was just a tiny group of people. But Raymond
Moody's book sold millions of copies, translated to almost every
language note known to mankind. Okay, when in nineteen seventy
five Higher Journeys Robert Monroe's books translated to numerous languages.

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Again in the early nineteen seventies, when the remote viewing
really take off, the early nineteen seventies at the Stop
and Research Institute, Okay. And so the exceptions were, for example,
ghosts and spirits. That's been talked about since the dawn
of mankind. So I argue that all these, almost all

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of the contact modalities developed within five years of each other. Okay.
Now is that a coincidence? No, this is an orchestrated events.
Why because humanity has reached a crisis point of self destruction,
of self annihilation. So what these experiences are is are
wakening up as you know, a lot of these I

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would argue, all of these contact modalities experiences are to
waken us up to understand that we are eternal spiritual
beings and that our planet we have to protect this planet,
which is can't destroy it. And so what what what
these experiences are doing is to telling us that, look,
you have the possibility of destroying your human species via

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nuclear weapons, via ecological self destruction. People don't realize in
one hundred years most of the major coastal city is
going to be underwater. We're talking billions and billions of people.
And what are there going to be the repercussions via
nuclear war, nuclear disaster? Because let's say, for example, Bangladesh

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has almost two billion people. What happens is half of Bangladesh,
which is located at sea level, goes to Pakistan or
to India, both of them have nuclear weapons. They're not
gonna want, you know, half a billion people invading their land.
They're gonna nuclem ombama. Okay, given the nature of who
we are as as as as so called civilized societies,

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so if you take that all over the world, you're
going to be having major economic and political upheaving. And
so we're at the cusp of self annihilation. And these
are wake up calls that, look, you need to be
working cooperatively. You have to be more kind, more caring
to each other. You have to become more loving, just

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like NDE experiences. Once you have an NDE, a very
large percentage of these people, we're told you need to
go back. No, no, I don't want to go back
to this hellholds a hell hold. No I want to
stay up there. No, no, you need to go back.
And when you go back, remember it's not important how
much money you have. It's not important. What religion you are,

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is not that important, how famous you are. What is
important is that you need to learn how to love. Okay,
that's the universal message that from the nd phenomenon. But
yet with a total oppis of that, we're destroyers, we're killers.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well, yeah, some some of humanity, too much of humanity,
is in this warlike mode level of consciousness since the
beginning of time. They think that that is the only
way they've got to protect themselves. They've got to conquer places,
they've got they have to have all the land and
all the resources for themselves. And yeah, the the concept

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is slowly going away, but not fast enough.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
No, not fast enough. So really, what we have here, Margie,
is a race, a race to see whether we can
destroy ourselves or we can change as a human species.
And I argue that it's not a coincidence. Why all
the paranormal became apparent to the world at pretty much
the same time. So that's not a coincidence. As you know,

(22:54):
there's no such thing as coincidences. There are a series
of orchestrated events, just like your life, just like my life.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I'm like your terminology there, I'll tell you what. Let's
go ahead and take our break. We're gonna take a
short three minute break and we'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 2 (25:47):
Welcome back to everyone on margik. This is unex News
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Speaker 3 (26:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
We're speaking with Ray Hernandez this evening.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Ray.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Uh, I could talk to you for ten hours straight
and you're just a wealth of knowledge. Let's uh, let's
talk a little bit about I want to find out
your thoughts on the theory that UFOs and UFO related
beings are holographic projections.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Oh, yes, correct. First of all, I'm not the only
one that's come up with that hypothesis. This was initially
proposed by doctor Jay Allen Heinik the last year of
his life, and then doctor Jacques Let also made that
proposal in several of his books. He said, could these

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be holographic projections that were actually seen? And so based
upon the last experience that you mentioned of that woman
with the red purse? Okay, is that woman with the
red purse? Was she real or not real? Was he
physical or not physical? Well, the proper responses both. Okay, Now,

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was that woman with the red purse you know? Real? Yes,
it appeared real to you the very first time, but
then the second time you passed by there, the house
was not there, and then that woman reappeared to you
later on, and so that begins to you to flush
into your mind. You know, was this experience a valid
physical experience? Now, as you know and all your audience

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members know, we get ingrains at an early age with
the five senses, so we only believe in our physical
that that is the only real reality. But then once
you see, once you've had in these paranormal type of experiences,
you realize that our reality is not just the perceived

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physical reality via the five senses. That's much more complicated
than that. Okay. Now, let me tell you an experience
that would provide a foundation for that theory that we're
seeing our holographic projections. And this was the next major
experience I had after that energy being in our living

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room healed our dog, okay. And that was. Over the
next three or four months, my wife had been calling
down UFOs and these huge objects would appear to her.
She had spent an entire month in Mexico and that's
what she was doing. That was witnessed by her relatives.
And so when she came back, I found I found

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out that she was calling down UFOs. So I said, Uh,
what the hell, let me give it a try. I
never called down the UFO my life. And then within
fifteen minutes of be attempting to hold down a UFO,
this huge object appeared right on top of me. And

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it was maybe six city blocks in length. It was
about one hundred meters tall, so it was a huge object.
But it wasn't physical. It was comprised of hundreds of
oblong streaks of light. And they had one circle of
these odd block streaks of light in the front, another

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huge circle of these odd block street of light in
the back, and in the middle was like the body
of it, okay, and inside was all this white plasma
swirling around. But you could see the swirls that went back,
you know, six blocks, you know, super fast and returned back.

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And so then my friends who I've been waiting for
to give me at their parking tickets, his parking tickets,
the males parking tickets, they show up. But they show up,
husband and wife, and then they immediately run to where
my wife, my daughter and I were and they said, ray,
what the hell is that. I said, you know, damn well,

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what it is, and they said, no, it can't be.
So then for the next two minutes, they began to
try to explain it away. So after two minutes, their
explanations just became more sillier, more sillier. You know, circus lights,
circus lights in the middle of freaking Miami, you know.
And so after two minutes I stopped. I started laughing,

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and then with my mind I communicated to the intelligence
behind what we were seeing. And can I cuss here
on the show?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Oh yeah, with limits, you just can't say certain words
about medical treatments, So.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Okay, okay. Anyway, what I communicated to this intelligence was
you better come up with some better bullshit than this,
because my friends don't believe you.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Instantaneously after I said that, what we were walking sting
totally disappeared, and now a new object replaced it, and
what we saw was much much more lower to the ground.
The first one was very low to the ground. The
palm trees blocked these consectric oblong streaks of light you

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know that were That's how close it was to my
next door neighbor's house. Now what we saw was now
fifty very large orbs the sides of a Volkswagen car,
right low to the ground and all of them were
blinking on and off, on and off, on and off,
on off, and they would take turns one at a time,
blowing up real big and then getting back down, and

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then another one would blow up and get back down,
so all the other ones were on and off, on off. Now,
this occurred instantaneously after I communicated with this intelligence and said,
you better come up with some bullshit than this, better
bullshit than this, because my friends don't believe it. So
that's when I realized, not at that same instant, but
later on after the event and I was digesting it,

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I said, oh my god, what I was watching was
not physical. Was perceived to be very physical, but it
wasn't because a totally different object totally replaced it. Okay,
So what this was was a projection, Okay. And then
later on after I met edgar Mitchell, he had a
theory that our reality is a holographic projection of our reality,

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and it's his theory of the holographic uh, theory of
consciousness of how it works. It's very, very complicated. I'm
not going to attempt to describe it to your your
your to your listeners, but if they really are seriously
interested in it. You can go go to the CCRI website,
which is a Greater Reality dot com, a Greater reality

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dot com, and we have articles from vol One and
Volume two in there, and one of the articles is
doctor edgar Mitchell's Quantum Hologram Theory of Consciousness. So it's
a little bit dense, a little bit difficult, but try
to read it and we'll give you a basic understanding
of the holographic nature of our reality. So to answer

(33:31):
your question, yes, one hundred ten percent, and that has
been confirmed. Let me give you another question, another example
to confirm what I just stated. I'm sure you know
doctor Joseph Brooks.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I know, I know the name.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Okay, doctor Joseph Okay, you know the name. Doctor Joseph
Brooks is a retired medical doctor. He's been doing CE
five since the early nineteen nineties. And as a matter
of fact, Preston Dennett went out with him when Preston
was a young man, and that's how Presidon sold them.

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A majority of his UFOs was with Joseph Brooks. Okay,
and Joseph now lives in upstate northern California, And so
he told me that during this time period he was
traveling on a six lane highway, and parallel to him,
very very low to the ground, was a World War

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One wooden airplane painted it in fire engine red and
had like a yellow lightning boat on the back of it.
Instead of the three wings that these planes had, you know,
these old World War One planes, it had one wing,
but it was tea. It was tiny, and then he
looked it didn't have a pilot, okay. And so he said,

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first of all, with these little tiny wings, it was
going like less than sixty miles an hour, and it
was almost like a helicopter, you know, very very slow paralleling. Okay,
And he says, distinct cannot fly physically, it's impossible to fly.
And then he saw it didn't have a pilot. So
he concluded later on that this was a holographic projection, okay.

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And so one time we were comparing notes of each other,
and so he viewed our reality as being both virtual
and spiritual. I said, holy cow, Joe, I'm writing a
book just with that title, you know, the holographic nature,
spiritual and virtual reality model of our reality. So then

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I talked about my first UFO that I ever pulled
down of what I just told you this I related
to him. Then he related the story of that wooden
airplane painted fire engine red with no pilot, and so
he had reached the same conclusion that these are holographic projections.
So throughout many of the stories that I have used

(35:56):
in my book A Greater Reality Volumes three, b, four,
and five. And you wrote an article for volume three.
You know your own personal experiences. So a lot of
these major experiences that I have in my book and
have talked about very similar experiences where they reached the

(36:17):
conclusion that these were holographic projections. So it's not just
Ray hernandez Is, Jacques Vallet and Jay Eleen Heinek and
numerous other people that have written about these concepts.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Well, I had an experience that makes me agree with
that concept because several years ago I did an investigation
with a lot of just various paranormal activity. Took some
pictures of these orbs or balls of light that come
down the hill, and the lady said they were coming.
They did it every night. So we go out their

(36:52):
desk and here they come, and one was fairly close
to me. I took some pictures of it, blew it up,
and here you see an et, a little et inside
this orb that's the size of a softball, at a console.
And so I had seen that, you know, this happened
years ago. But then about a year ago I decided

(37:13):
to remote view that to see what the source was
because I knew that there probably wasn't a physical extraterrestrial
at a little in a little tiny ufo, although you
know that it's possible. So I remote viewed it. And
here I see a gigantic craft in a big control room,

(37:35):
one tall et watching over everything, obviously the supervisor, and
then several maybe six or eight extraterrestrials. They had no hair,
they were tall and thin. They're each sitting at a console,
and somehow they were projecting to the Earth. And the

(37:58):
what I the message I got was they were observing,
basically the one word observing, and that's how they did it.
And so H that there are other people who've gotten
pictures of the same sort of thing, extraterrestrials inside the
ball of light. And these these balls of light are

(38:19):
you know, they're a controversial topic. It depends on who
you talk to. What people different people believe. Some believe
their spirits, some think they're probes from UFOs, you know,
and some people think they're swamp gas. So it just
depends on who you're talking to. But that to me

(38:40):
that experience when I remote viewed seemen of the idea
that they were sending either an astral projection or a hologram. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah, Well, as a matter of fact, that whole topic
of orbs is one of the missing pieces for our
documentary film. We need a video of orbs. They're lily
thousands of pictures that people have taken of orbs, but
we want to be able to show because we have

(39:14):
a section of our documentary on the topic of orbs,
and so if anyone has it, they can send me
an email and the email would be contactmodalities at gmail
dot com. Contactmodalities at gmail dot com. So if you

(39:34):
have an ORB video, help me out, okay later on documentary.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Okay, I'll put the word out. And also I have
a couple myself, so I'll send this to you. We're
having you're cutting out a little bit. But is that
because you're in Colombia, South America?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yes, yes it is.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
How did you get to Columbia? How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Well, let me tell you a story. About how I
met my wife, my current wife, new wife. I had
been in Miami to visit my mom. She's now ninety
three years old. And you probably know that things pop
into your mind for a specific reason. I never wore

(40:31):
a ring in my life, Okay, I had zero interest
in the ring, and all of a sudden in my
mind is I need to get a ring. I need
to get a ring. You know these things are. And
then all of a sudden, I need to get a ring. So,
you know, recently divorced, I don't have tons of money,
but it has to be a good quality ring. And
so I said, okay, I'm going to get it from
a local porn shop. So I wrote four local porn

(40:53):
shops in the area around my mother's house. And so,
for the first time in my life, I asked something
of God. I always speak with God, but I never
made a request. Okay, this time, I said, look, God,
I'm going to go to some porn shops tomorrow if
you can help me find a good quality gold ring. Okay.

(41:16):
And so the next day, twelve hours later, about twelve pm,
I hear my mom screaming right right right, So I
thought she had fallen down. So I ran to her
and she's sitting on her bed and she has a
tobacco box where she keeps my grandfather's poetry in and

(41:41):
the box is open, and right on top of the
box was this golden ring. And I said, Mom, did
you find that inside the box? Yes, right at the
very top, I said, my grandfather, I never knew him
that he had a ring. He never had a ring.

(42:03):
How many times have you opened that box? More than
a hundred times, because that's why she kept his poetry. Okay,
so this is what it's called in the parapsychological field
and aport. Okay, And my best friend Alberto Fernandez, who
I consider the world's major contact experiencer. He's had all

(42:25):
of the contact modalities multiplied by one hundred. He is
an unbelievable He's a retired DEA Federally and his wife
is a PhD psychiatrist. His daughter's a PhD psychiatrist, and
they've had, you know, numerous experiences that they've jointly shared.
But Alberto is the star of the show. And he

(42:46):
has a whole China cabinet, an entire China cabinet with aports.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Explain explain the report.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Is, and so I knew what it was, okay, yeah, yeah,
And aport is a physical object that mysteriously appeared in
your home or in the local setting. But it's usually
in someone's home. And the more common ones are rings

(43:18):
or chains with different objects attached to the chain. And
but there's many, many other things that appear. Alberto has
had statues appear. Some of them are large type. One
was a huge Chinese sword after a Chinese warlord appeared
to him the day before that taught Alberto about his

(43:40):
past life. And they captured it in one of those
cameras that take a picture instantaneously. What they call it
a polaroid right, yeah, polaroid camera. So they have polaroid
pictures of that huge sort of of Berto's holding, and
then the very next day it disappears. Oh wow, so

(44:02):
they have a whole China cabbage. So I knew what
this was. Yeah, you need to. I don't know if you.
He's recently come out of public. I encouraged him finally,
after many, many many years, to write about book about
his personal experiences. And you'll be blown away by my
friend Alberto. Remember he's a retired DA Federal nature. He
had written two books about his time in the Dea

(44:26):
and it's better than those Narcos Narco documentary that you
see on Netflix, because there's the real deal, you know.
And so it sounds like back to Columbia I had been.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
It sounds like I need to do together.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
You can have two people at the same time. Yeah, yes, yes,
He's unbelievable. And so anyway, I got back to Colombia
and I had been dating for about a year and
a half, you know, lots of females. But then once
they heard my accent, it was at native I'm fluent Spanish,
but it wasn't a accent of Colombia. Okay, so they

(45:04):
knew I wasn't from here. So it's like, Ray, can
you loan me thirty bucks?

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Ray?

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Can you loan me fifty bucks? And immediately once I
heard that, I was like, you know, I will get
rid of them. So I've been dating all these ladies
getting rid of them, you know, because it was just
monetary interest in this. And then I talked to God.
I said, look, if you can help me with this spring,
I have one last favorite to ask of you. Help

(45:28):
me find a good woman. She doesn't have to be beautiful. Okay.
I don't care if she's fat or skinny, or tall
or short or whatever, you know, black and white or
you know, different colors. Just help me find a good
woman that has the same love that I have, because
I don't want to die an old man without a partner, okay.

(45:48):
And so the very next day, you know, I was
introduced to my current wife, and I said, okay, the
next time. She's a beautiful woman, so I said, the
next time she asked me the next time she had
for me for any money, which he never has. She
never asked me for any money. I was going to
get rid of her, okay, never. And and so we've

(46:09):
been together for a year and a half. We've been
married now for about six months. And again it was
after speaking with God.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Uh huh, I call her.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
I call her the aport wife.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Whoops that you cut out a minute?

Speaker 3 (46:26):
You call her what I've been Yeah, the aport wife. Ah, yes,
the airport aport ring.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Wow. And I had something like that happened a few
years ago, well quite a few years ago. I'm not
going to say. I was living in an apartment with
my two daughters. I went to my drawer box. Now
I had a class rank from high school that I
wore all the time. I go to my drawer box

(46:58):
to get it. It is gone on but my cousin's
class ring is there in its place with a red stone.
My cousin was living in Venezuela at the time. I
called her on the phone. Had she freaked out because
back then you didn't call long distance. This is back
when you had to pay extra to call long distance.

(47:21):
It had to be something really important. I said, where
is your class ring? She goes, It's in my jewey box.
I said, better go look. So she looked in there.
She said it's gone. I said, that's because it's in
my jewelry box. She did not believe me, and I said,
by the way, is my class ring in your jewelry box?
She said no, there's nothing there. So I gave it

(47:43):
to her that Christmas. When I saw her for Christmas,
she was just stunned. Nobody could figure that out. And
my ring has not reappeared. So I would like to
have it back.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Ray.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Maybe you can ask me.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
This is This is a high school graduation ring from
nineteen sixty two in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Okay, wow, wow, what is it about? Situation.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Grandfather's not raised in Cuba. He came to the United
States in nineteen sixty five. And this is from nineteen
sixty two from Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
So that's somebody else's ryan. You needed it.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yeah, my friend Alberto has h somebody else's ring. Yeah yeah,
boop yeah, here it.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Is wow wow. And then the appearing of the sword
and then disappearing again. That's amazing how that happens.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Oh. I detail some of that in my latest book
about my personal experiences. I rarely spoke about my personal
experiences when I was interviewed, you know, over many years years,
because I didn't want to mix my academic research with
my personal experiences. And so I finally said, Okay, you know,

(49:09):
I need to document what I've been going through, and
so I wrote a book titled A Greater Reality, One
Man's Journey of Discovery, And that's the same title of
our documentary, by the way, A Greater Reality, One Man's
Journey of Discovery. And in that book, I speak about

(49:31):
not all of them, but a good many of my
major paranormal experiences, including the theories that I've come up
with from my experiences and my academic research, like for
example that we spoke about earlier, the concept of manipulation
of space time, the concept of holographic projections. Those are

(49:52):
just two examples, but there are numerous ledge of mainstream
here thissupology and and and so it's it's uh the
uh it was maybe almost four hundred pages to our book,

(50:16):
and the prices at a minimum, I think it's eight
fifty cents real life.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Where can people give that book?

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Well, all of my books are available on Amazon, okay,
but if you send me an email, I will send
you one of my books, a valuable for free. So
if you want that, a greater reality book that about
my personal experiences, just send me an email and the
email contact A T modalityes M O D A L

(50:58):
I T I e us at gmail dot com. So
it's con talk more as at gmail dot com for
free from our c C c R I website and

(51:20):
the c CR website for free. Yeah, okay, and the
website is a Greater Reality dot com, a greater reality
dot com.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Okay, We're we're showing that now and uh and we'll
spread the word about that. Uh. Ray, We're you're cutting
out a little bit on your end. So uh we'll
go ahead and say we'll sign up for this evening.
And I want to say I appreciate you so much
all your hard work and and not running from the

(51:52):
subject like a lot of people. Do you dug into
it you wanted to answers and uh, you have just
created a one organization and you know, I just appreciate that.
Thanks for coming on.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Well, thank you, Margie. One last thing before we leave.
We have a three minute documentary trailer. The documentary will
be released in this fall this fall, and you could
take a peek at it. Okay, it's in our website,
a Greater Reality dot Com. Go in there towards the

(52:32):
very bottom of the first page. You will see a
link towards the trailer. Take a look at it. You
will what we talk about does not exist. Okay. What
we're doing is we have over fifty PhD the academics
and medical doctors, together with over one hundred major experiences
of the contact modalities, and we're linking them both together.

(52:56):
We're linking the science together with the experiences, and we're
trying to establish that that first of all, consciousness is primary,
not our physical reality. This is a perceived illusion, Okay,
that we are eternal space, spiritual means, and the and

(53:17):
the phenomenon confirms that beyond the shout at, all of
the paranormal needs to be studied as one integrated phenomenon
under consciousness. And we're doing this academically via these medical
doctors and these academic researchers.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Well, I will say this your approach.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Please go to the website and check out the documentary.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Okay, we'll do. We'll spread the word. Thank you so much,
Ray for coming on this evening and gating us updated
on you know what you've got going on right now.
So I'm really looking forward to seeing that documentary and
reading your book.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Thank you, Monjee.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Now your book is available right.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
I'll send it both to you. Okay, it's available right
now at Amazon. And that's just one of eight books.
We also have a book A Greater Reality, Volumes three
through five, and each of them are eight hundred pages.
And each of these books contain a chapter written by

(54:27):
a major contact experiencer, like we have your article on
volume three, and it's about, you know, thirty five pages
about your particular experiences, not all of them, but some
of your major experiences. And so we've got medical doctors,
we've got academic professors, we've got people from all walks
of life that have written about their paranormal experiences. But

(54:48):
not just one time. These people have had experiences, they've
had out of body experiences, they've seen sashpats, they've seen
UFOs all within their lives.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, that's the that's the thing. It doesn't end with
just one thing. Uh, it's it's everything. So yeah, we
just need to get a handle, just get a handle
on it. And and you've certainly done that. So all right, everyone,
thank you so much for joining me. Thank you ray

(55:21):
uh and I will see everybody here again next week.