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Speaker 2 (01:01):
Good evening, everyone, Welcome to unex News. I'm your host,
Margie K. And we have been having a few technical
difficulties tonight, so if anybody disappears, they will be coming
right back. I assure you We've got a great show
for you tonight. I've got several guests coming on to
talk about a big, big case in Lawson, Missouri. This
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could be a possible UFO flap, but at any rate,
you want to stay tuned for this because it is
just crazy. I do want to mention one thing. The
Journey to Truth conference is next week starting Monday, in
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It is one of the best conferences ever. If you
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lot of fun. Look for me, I've got an anexed
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by and say hi if you come out. All right, tonight,
we're gonna be talking about this big case. Three people
filed separate reports about different incidents. Well, two are the same,
one a little bit different. The witnesses have an amazing
story to tell. This is what we call a big
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case in ufology. And I've got two investigators. A primary
investigator working on this tonight is Carl Harper. He's gonna
be with us. And then Larry Tyree is a video analyst.
He's a part of the team that works on dissecting
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photos and he finds all kinds of neat stuff in
the photographs. And tonight you are going to see something
you will not believe. But first let me bring Carl on. Carl,
how are you doing tonight? It's great man, Well, so
glad you could come on with us tonight. Could you
just kind of give us an overview of this case
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and how you got the information?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Okay, I was monitoring our case management system and May
the third I saw a case in the laston area,
and that's right out my back door. I live in
Ray County and loss of this straddles the Ray and
Clay County lines. So I contacted the first witness and
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she described a weird incident that had happened on her
back door. I'm sure she'll tell you more, but she
went out the back door waking in the middle of
the ninth, four forty in the morning, saw this tubular
wormhole portal whatever you want to call it, with as
she counted over thirty eight bright orbs coming out of
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it and no picture, no video. She did send me
a very nice drawing. So I posted this on social
media and while I get two more reports. The second
report actually caught it on a photo, which I did
send to Larry and he'll tell you about that later.
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But we did catch it on video, and then I
got a third report. It maybe that the third witness
caught one of the orbs in a video. So it
was really quite fascinating that it was a great case,
and plus it was out in my back door.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Okay, fantastic. Well let's go ahead and bring on our
first witness here Jennifer, thank you for being on the
program tonight. Of course, Why don't you tell us what
were you doing and how did you see this thing?
What did you think it was?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, I went outside and let my dogs out, and
I looked to the west and I seen these orbs
going northeast. So I looked to see where it was
coming from. And the column that I seen wasn't very big.
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But the only way I could see the column is
when they entered that column, and it was about the
middle of the column. I'd say it was like forty
feet maybe maybe a little less, I'm not for sure,
but I could see the stars above it, I could
see below it.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
It was coming in the middle of it. These orbs
were and they would come.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Down out of it one at a time, and when
they got to the bottom of it, it kind of
stopped at motion like that, and then it moved to
the northeast and another one would come out, and it
would wait until it got about one hundred yards. Then
it was just kept going and I kind of thirty
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eight of them. I was kind of frightened at first,
but then you know, it was like.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So uh oh, you cut out there a little bit,
so You also said earlier that as these objects came
out of this column, they stayed the same distance apart
from each other.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Did they did? They waited until.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
They got a certain uh distance a way, and then
it would the bottom of the column.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Was the bottom of the column up high? It wasn't.
It wasn't down on the on the earth. Was it
was it up?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
No, I would say it was about twenty thousand feet
up in the air.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Wow, okay, it would be my guest.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, and we're going to see a picture of that
in just a minute now. You did not get any photos.
You were observing this with the naked eye. How long
were you did you watch this?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
It lasted to like four minutes, maybe maybe less than
four minutes.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But around there, okay, okay, what were you thinking? What
was going through your mind? Where'd you think it was?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I started looking around why they were coming out, and
there was two other objects, one from the west and
the other one was south and they were watching it.
So I was like, oh, I thought maybe it was
satellites or something and they were seeing it also, you know,
after the last one come out, them two the one
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in the west and the one in the south, the
one in the south went south and the other one
went west. They were they were not as bright as
the other ones, the ones that were coming out of
that column. They were further away. I could see the moon,
and the moon was in my tree, of course, but
I could see stars and everything. So yeah, it was
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an experience.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Were you scared at all?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I was at first, and then I something come over me.
It was like peace, and then I was like then
I started thinking, well, how many is going to come
out of this?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So so you counted thirty eight?
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah? I counted thirty eight of them?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, right, and there could have been some before that
as well, because you didn't see it appear you came,
you know, came in during, you know, while this is
going on. Have you ever seen anything like this before?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Never?
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Never in my life have I seen something like this.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Have you seen UFOs before?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I have? But nothing disclose. I mean they were pretty close.
I mean, okay, they were very bright.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I couldn't tell what if they were circular or rectangular
or square, I couldn't tell.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
They were just really bright.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Okay, Well, let's bring on our second witness here, Little
lou who's going to unmute herself? Here all right, Nope,
there we go. Okay, thanks for being on the program tonight.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Thank you for having me appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Why don't you just tell us your story about this event.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Well, I got up to use the bathroom and I
saw something out my window that looked like what I
would say a commercial airliner. Off course, that's how large
it looked. But the lights were not right. They were different.
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It was coming straight east towards me. And this was
at about four twenty is when I got up, and
I was very confused at first because of all the
talk about air traffic controls and you know, controllers, shortage
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and whatnot. There were different colored lights. They weren't the
normal lights on an airliner. So I sat and I
stared at it until about four forty five, and it
got closer, kept coming closer, and it was straight up
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twelve o'clock, coming east towards my bedroom window. Now this,
mind you, is above the tree line. I couldn't really
estimate how high because it was far away and it
didn't make a sound. There was no noise to it
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at all, like an airplane, and I just kept watching it.
I did not see the wormhole side of things. I
don't know if that was before or after, but because
I'd seen this and it was strange and exciting at
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the same time.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Sure, have you seen anything like that before?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Not like that? No?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
No, you have seen other UFOs?
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Well, I believe I did when I was younger, but
then I was a child with an imagination. So and
I'm a lot older now, so I don't know for sure,
but I thought I did. Yeah, right now. You live
to the west, Jennifer, correct of me. I'm thinking I'll
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take Juniper.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
I'm not for sure where you're at. I'm at on Knoker.
Are you on Nker?
Speaker 7 (11:58):
No? You?
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Oh you're you're okay?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
No, address those ladies, yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
And I'm over by the ballfield, so on Nike.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Baskarl has has this mot mapped out, and he'll share
that with you.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
I spoke with a neighbor of mine today who lives
on the other side of dew east of me, and uh,
he said, and he's got cows. And he had said
to me, oh my god, I didn't think anybody else
was up that night, but I had to get up
as usual at four and and uh he said, the
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cows were making a lot of noise. So I looked
out the bathroom window, is what he said, and he
said he saw the orbs, he saw them come down.
I'm sorry he couldn't be with us tonight, but hopefully
we'll get him on at a different time. So then
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I asked him if any of his cows were mutilated
or anything. When something comes out of the sky like that,
you know, you kind of makes you wonder. And he
said no, the cows were fine, but one particular cow
kept going back to the same site every day, and
I have a feeling it happened on his or close
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or if not on his land, I don't know. I
wish I did, but I went back to the same
site every day, every day, every day until today today
it did not go there, but since Saturday it's gone
back to the same site every day. I wish to gosh,
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I wish, I wish to gosh that we could have
had him on tonight.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
But well, well, I'm sure that Carl will be talking
to him, hopeful soon, or he can follow his own
report at moufon dot com and then Carl will be
in touch with him about that and ask his questions
and more witnesses we have to an event the better.
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And also sometimes you can triangulate where an object is
if you have people in different locations, so that would
help out too.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
And when she said she was west, she's well, actually
she's yeah, she's west of me and I'm east of
her and he's east of me. So it, yeah, it
does make sense. I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Oh, I'll bet, I'll bet. And I've seen one of
the pictures and I let's see. Did you didn't take
that picture? But you did do a drawing?
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Oh no, no, no, I did the video?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
You did video? Okay, yeah, let me see.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Our picture taker didn't make it tonight, Margie.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
I know.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'll tell you what, Carl, would you, since she's not here,
would you explain what she got and explain her side
of the story.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Again, but posting on the social media got this person
to contact me, and then I asked them to make
a report with Muffin dot com and she did and
submitted ten pictures of the tube, wormhole portal, whatever you
want to call it, and then some other objects that
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were in the sky, which again, as I said, I
said to Larry for analysis, But she's the one that
got the picture and it was on the same date
around the same time as the original report.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, and unfortunately we cannot show what she got because
we don't have a media release yet, but we will
definitely be doing a follow up on this and uh
and show that later.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Now, this.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
That is a little lose video. I'm gonna show that
one more time. I'm going to try to stop it
in between so you can get a better look at that.
But uh, that was a pretty fast movie object.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
That's right, the witness.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh, that's our fourth witness.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
That that person I haven't had a chance to talk with.
But this is a different location. Okay, you super far away.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Okay, do we have a little lows video.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Larry had it? I could try and pull it up
while you're talking.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, okay, why don't Why don't you do that so
at least we can see that now that that fourth witness. Wow,
that was interesting to say the least, that you know,
the fact that there is there are multiple witnesses here
and over you know, a few days. I'm not sure
exactly what the time frame is, but everything didn't happen
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on one day. And then one of the neighbors said, oh, yeah,
that's where the portal is, so he knows there's a
there's a portal on his property.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Uh, well, is that what he said?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
He's not sure. I mean, he doesn't know for sure,
but he said that there's been other incidences besides that days.
So that's why I want him to talk to Carl
real bad.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, yeah, we definitely need to do that. So while
Carl's doing that, I'm going to bring Larry on board.
Welcome to the program, Larry. Just take your mute off
if you would. Uh it seems to be okay, there
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we go. All right, you you have some video and
stills that you analyzed. What is your general idea of
what is going on here?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Well? Which one do you want to start with?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
The simplest first, the simplest let's start with that.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
All right? How about and we'll start with the case one.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And I guess present that yeah, present at the bottom,
and I've.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Already got it opened as the image file right.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Oh yeah, clicking you're clicking on that little box at
the bottom that says present. Yeah, okay, and then you
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click on uh just like zoom. Okay, we'll work on that. Carl,
do you have yours? Did you find yours?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yes? I did?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Ah, here go, well, you got this? Is this from you, Larry?
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to show.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
For some reason, it's showing. It's showing.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Now, that's that's mine.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh, that's yours. Okay, Carl, what is this?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
That's the that's a little news video.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Okay. Uh. Now this looks like it's got structure to it.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Did you see this?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Excuse me?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It looks like it's uh kind of changing shape a
little bit as it moves. Mhm and uh and color too,
Is that what you perceived.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
I did. I saw colors that are not on the
jet airliner. Let's put it that way. There were green,
they were blue, there were red, there were yellow, and
they just like rotated linked differently, you know. And and
it wasn't in a straight line. But it was kind
of hard to tell too because it was so far away.
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The author like oscillating around it.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
M hm uh. Now I'm going to mention something here,
just so that everybody knows. If you will go to
the settings in your phone, whether it's an iPhone or
a smartphone, set it to the highest setting. So what
that's going to do is change it to sixty frames
per second instead of thirty frames per second, you're going
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to get a lot more detail. So when you're out
UFO watching skywatching, it's a good idea to do that.
And the other thing is if you turn your phone sideways,
that gets a much much better.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Oh thank you, I just.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
I just figured idiot that phone so.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, yeah, I mean it's lucky that you had something,
because most people don't have something on them. They don't
have their phone on them when they're looking at you,
or they have what they just don't think about it.
And I have actually done that myself, because you're so
shocked about what you're seeing it's hard to believe, and
you don't think about grabbing a phone. You know, I
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can get some video, but and and also video is
the best.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
So when I when I went to grab my phone,
I was just afraid that I'd get back to the
window and it wouldn't be there, you know, and that
would be that would have been my luck, you know.
But sure enough I thought I had two other videos,
but I didn't do it right apparently.
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All right, all right, well I'll tell you what we're
going to do. We're going to take a short three
minute break and we're gonna let everybody, get their presentations ready,
and we'll see everybody back here in just a few minutes.
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Speaker 2 (25:50):
And we're back with the next news I'm your host,
Margie K and this evening, we are talking about some
UFO going on in Missouri north of the River as
we call it, north of Kansas City, small town called Lawson,
Missouri is where this is happening. We've got a couple
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of witnesses on tonight. There are a couple of more
witnesses who have come forward, and there's a lot of
chatter on social media and I'm going to get to
Carl back here now. Carl, we were talking about one
of the witnesses who isn't here tonight, and we've got
this social media post that was made. Where did this
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come from?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Okay, this is an AI representation of the one that
we can't show that's the real one. But it basically,
as you can see, there's a tube or going out
and then as a little loup pointed out, the hundred
feet apart white orbs going off to the right out
of that tube.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I see. Okay, so this is a little bit different
than the actual photograph. Yeah, that's AI. What did this
witness tell you?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Uh, I haven't got a whole big caught interview yet.
I basically just got the photos and a little bit
of information. But the location, direction of travel. I saw it,
so I'm still hoping to get more.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And what direction were they going.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
This this match?
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Is?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
What what the first report it would have been where
you could see it?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Okay, okay?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And then working to three reports I have to have
been I get a little confused on them.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Oh yeah, absolutely, I would do. Okay, let's bring Larry in.
Are you able to do present?
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Now? Larry, I'm going to give it a shot. I
just noticed a little share but in the top right
of the screen I had opened. Okay, that's that's what
I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
That where it's supposed to be. But we'll just go
with the flow.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
So wanting to share from one drive, well, I don't
know about that.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Okay. Do you see the present or invite button, little
square box with a plus in it?
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Okay, say that again?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Uh huh it says present.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
There's two of them, one under everything on the bottom,
one off the side.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Just do the bottom one and then click on your
presentation and it'll pop there and then I will bring
it up.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Well, I've already got them.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Open, yeah, but they're not showing up here.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, you got to do it. Very Do the bottom
one first in the top right one and that'll make
it show.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
What do you mean the top right one, the blue thing? Okay, Well,
I've got share screen image file of NFL and slide
and PF. So far it's just a word document. Well
it work with word documents.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, you can show a word document.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
So shareff screen is going to show this whole screen.
I don't mean that image file is one. What I'm
trying to do is I've got it in a word
document and I just want to open that page that
I don't do.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Okay, send it to me by email. I will bring
it up on my end, okay, And in the meantime,
I'm going to bring Jennifer back in, and Jennifer, tell
us about any other UFO sidings you may have had.
And why can't I unmute your mic?
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Sorry it was on my end.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Okay, Okay, tell us about your other sightings.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I've had one. My daughter was maybe three months old,
and she started crying. It was like three o'clock in
the morning, and I went downstairs to make her a bottle,
brought it upstairs and in a picture on the there's
a window on the east and on this picture or
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the windows I pointed to the east and on a
picture I seen a bright light and I looked out
the window and then it was right there in my field.
Then I woke up my husband and then his dad
was kind of ill, so he was at the house
and we woke him up and we watched it and
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it stayed put, it not moved, no sound, for probably
thirty minutes, and then it just slowly slowly went up
and we watched it until we couldn't see it no more.
So that was in ninety seven, so it had been
March of ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Wow, that sounds quite fantastic. Did you get pictures?
Speaker 5 (31:25):
No? No?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Okay, well I'm going to bring Little Lou up here too,
because you said you had a sighting before or more
than one. Maybe what happened, Well, my.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Sister was with her best friend a couple of houses
away from where I grew up in Oregon, and they
were having to sleep out one night, and her best
friend's little sister was my best friend, and so we
were all going to hang out with our big sisters
for a little while, but we had to go home
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and go to bed because the big girls, you know,
it was a big girls thing and I didn't even
get all the way there. I was walking through the
neighbor's yard, two neighbors yards, got to the gate to
go into their yard, looked up and there.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
Was a disc.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Now mind you, I was only six seven years old,
but it was a disc. And I stared at it,
and they were about oh one hundred feet away, all
pointing at it, and I didn't want any part of it,
not took off running for home. So that's that was
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my experience. And you know, from that point on, I mean,
I've always been fascinated with the sky and the stars,
and I loved to fly, and so I'm always looking
up and I love it when we have, you know,
shooting star night, you know, meteorites and whatnot. But this
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was just pretty unusual and exciting at the same time.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
You know, have either of you seen extraterrestrials or interdimensionals
or anything just strange and unusual that you couldn't explain.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I don't believe I have. I don't believe I have.
But my son, I believe has an easier.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Oh really, what do yeah telling us about that?
Speaker 7 (33:41):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
He would love to I'm sure, Yeah, I'll let you
sit down.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, Hell ever, is justin, Okay, justin.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
This was in nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety seven. My
father was station.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
In Honolulu, Hawaii at Pearl Harbor. He was on board
a navy ship. Of course, you know, when you're on
board a navy ship, you get to take your family
on cruises and you're able to, you know, go for
long distances. We were coming back from Pago Pago, Samoa
(34:20):
heading west excuse me, heading east across the International date Line,
and my father had to get up real early in
the morning and do his watch duty. And it was
interesting because he woke me up and he said, once
you come upstairs and we hit the top deck and
(34:42):
I'll show you the actual deck of the ship, you know,
where the captain hangs out and all that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
And I was like, all right, cool.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
And I was really really young, I was like thirteen
years old, and he said, why don't we go down.
We're going to go for a walk on the quarter deck.
So we walking around the ship and this this ship
is very large. I don't want to say exactly which
ship it was, but it was it was an interesting,
(35:15):
an interesting experience. We saw a cylender disc rise out
of the water. Out of the Pacific Ocean. No noise,
but you hear the water dripping and falling back into
the ocean off of it as it descended out of
the water. That was, like I said nineteen ninety six,
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nineteen ninety seven, it was a very strange.
Speaker 9 (35:42):
Time for me when I was older though.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
When I was twenty four years old, I was in
twenty nine Palms, California, and I was visiting my father
and sitting outside late at night, and when you're in
the desert, the sky is crystal clear.
Speaker 9 (36:08):
An amazing anomaly happened.
Speaker 10 (36:11):
But I thought it could have been possibly like a
rocket or a missile breaking the atmosphere, but it wasn't.
And whatever it was, this thing lit up the sky
like it was daytime, and it never made any noise whatsoever.
And it was legitimately probably about one hundred and fifty
(36:34):
feet off the ground, about the tip of it would
be called Indian Cove. You could see it, and it
actually had a shadow, which was way too crazy. That
was my experiences of seeing unidentified aerial phenomenons or UFOs.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
That's pretty wild. Well, thank you for sharing that. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
One of the one of the things that investigators noticed
that I know Larry and Carl will back me up
on this, is that they seem to follow families if
you seem to follow DNA, and so you'll have one
family where multiple generations will see UFOs, they might even
see extraterrestrials, and then another family has absolutely zero experiences. So, uh,
(37:32):
maybe that's something that's involved here. I don't know, but
it's a it's a possibility.
Speaker 10 (37:38):
Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
I was just gonna say, about eight or nine years ago,
I had a case where a mother and daughter came in. Uh,
the daughter had an implant behind your ear and you
were and the mother thought she had one too, And
turns out the grandmother even it had one upper note
(38:09):
many years ago when the mother was still a child.
So I mean that's one case is where three generations
in a row had had productions and visitations and such.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, implants, that's intense.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Okay, Well, I've I've got this up. Larry, if you
would like to explain what this is we're looking at.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
Yeah, this is just some frames that I took from
that video of the bright light where it looked like
it was a definition to it and what I tried
to do here was just to see how much the
object was moving. And so in the first frame, which
(38:55):
is frame ten, which I mean it's ten thirty thirtieth
of a second into the video, you have, I put
the yellow dot at the very top of each of
the of the tree in each case, so that's a tree.
That's when you look at it, you don't even notice
(39:16):
the tree. It's so dark, it's so black. And so
I just did some manipulation so I can see the
tree outline to get the sky. So the yellow dot
up there is the top of the tree kind of
at a point, and then I just calculated the angle
from the center of the bright object to that little
yellow dot. So the first one it's one hundred and
(39:38):
thirty seven degrees, in the second one it's it moves
a little closer to the tree. That's one hundred and
twenty one degrees. And then in the final one it's
moving away from the tree a little further at one
hundred and forty five degrees. So the angle, what I'm
(39:59):
saying angle, is the between the white object and the
top of the tree. So basically it was this is
just a study to see is this thing staying in
one spot or is it the movement of the camera
of the video recorder or is it moving on its song?
(40:23):
And here I would have to ask the witness, Uh,
you took that video? Were you moving at all when
you were? Oh? Were you fixed in one spot taking
that video?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Oh? Yeah, Jennifer, were you moving?
Speaker 6 (40:43):
That was me? Sorry?
Speaker 9 (40:45):
Oh sorry, that was a little I think.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
There's a little loop.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
Okay, yeah, this is I. No, I was not moving.
Actually I was sitting on the on the ground and
my elbows were holding the camera on the windows, so
I did not move.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
So this verifies that the object was an independent movement.
It wasn't this movement by might be a lot of
motion by you or anything. So you can see it
in the video a little bit. But I just wanted
to make sure that its own power.
Speaker 9 (41:21):
And I'd like to add something too about that.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
From what I witnessed.
Speaker 9 (41:28):
She woke me up. It was like like four thirty
five forty in the morning.
Speaker 10 (41:34):
And she told me to poke my head out of
the loft because I live above the garage. So I
basically poked my head out and I looked towards the east.
She said, look towards the east and like you're looking
at crowds to the cattle farm. So I did, and
when I did, I saw the cylindric object, but there
was lights that were legitimately rotating around it, like in
(41:56):
a circular pattern, like a clockwise pattern or on our
clockwise pattern.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
And what was really odd was.
Speaker 10 (42:04):
That I don't I didn't see all of the orbs,
but I only actually saw maybe four or five of
the different colors that I saw. I saw like a magenta,
a pink, a blue, a green, and a yellow. And
it was I definitely know that that wasn't an.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
Aircraft, you know, it wasn't. It was like you know
what you'd seen on close encounters or the third kind.
Speaker 10 (42:34):
This was like a cigar tube though, like I saw
like a cigar tube, it was, but it was just
so weird to see those orbs rotating around it.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
That's what.
Speaker 9 (42:47):
Kind of threw me off.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Like I was like, and you kept saying, no, Mom, it's.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Just I really thought it was Starlink.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yeah, speaking of carl you did check Starlink, of course,
and uh.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, nothing was in the area. Most of them were
over Russia at the at the time. Of course, check
checked radar was now aircraft, No helicopters, no airplanes showing
on on radar.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Wow, so it can rule out anything mundane. There, I've
got another thing. Tell us what this is, Carl.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
That was Jennifer drawing right of what she saw and
also had a question that I did get to ask
in the interviews, is, uh did justin was what you saw?
Or Jennifer what they described? Is that fit what she
saw coming out of the tube the portal.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Yes, they come through as single they were seeing there.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 10 (44:03):
It was like it was like it had drones like
it let off drones, like an aerial drone that rotated
around it, or is like its own protection or you know,
uh something that could you know, pick up or study,
you know, like this is really weird.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Okay, all right, well we're gonna go into some high
strangeness here now because Larie was able to get some
photos and uh, you know what, Larry, can you show
the photos from your end?
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Are you?
Speaker 7 (44:47):
It's also in the workfile?
Speaker 9 (44:49):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (44:51):
I suppose I could try going from them.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, uh no, it has to be a PDF or photo.
Send it to me again, Send that to me.
Speaker 7 (45:07):
I just sent you while right after the other one.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Okay, Okay, so I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try to
grab that because why don't you go ahead and explain
what it is while I'm doing that.
Speaker 7 (45:18):
Okay, I guess this is yours, Jennifer. The photo of
the the long portal over the trees. In my correct.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
I did not see a long It wasn't very long
when I seen it with my naked eye. Now I'm
guessing it was thirty to forty feet, but they didn't
come from the top, and they come through the middle
of that middle of that column and then headed down.
Speaker 7 (45:52):
But anyway, you're the one that made that photo.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
I did.
Speaker 7 (45:57):
Yeah, So when I saw the scene, I tried looking
first at there it looked like sort of a pattern
of three of the objects in a row, and then
another one the next to them, And so I decided
to first see if I could enhance those, but there
(46:17):
wasn't a whole lot to work with for some reason
that they were moving and were kind of blurred. I
didn't have a lot of success with those. So I
decided to use though, and it enhanced the one at
the very far left and higher, which is brighter. Anyway,
it was much brighter yeah, the uh.
Speaker 10 (46:39):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (46:40):
The results are rather astonishing, as you can see right here.
So the first the long portal here, that's what I
was talking about, because it looks short here, but however
far away it is. Well up here, I've got a
red circle around the white dot that I enhanced and
(47:02):
being a right there, those eyes and that face looking
at you. That's what it is. It's this red dot here,
and what's inside it the white object is this in
an itsire entirety, a face with eyes, o eyebrows, some hair,
(47:26):
noose looking at you. And it was a tiny thing
up in the here. So there's only one bright object
here in the area. And so I decided maybe we
shouldn't look into this for the possibility that there's a
lens flare going on. I still couldn't exactly explain how
(47:50):
an image of a face to be there, and so
go back to the lens flare analysis if you could,
Page two. The up up here. A lens player basically
is when you have you take a photo and there's
a bright light somewhere. Often it'll reflect on the different
parts of the inside of the camera and it'll project
(48:13):
out and get captured by the image and you've probably
seen them in movies when like there's a bright sunlight
and the cameras moving and you see these lens plaars
moving around in the image. Wherever it goes, it follows. Well,
that's what a lens flare is. And when I perform
the test on it, basically you draw exactly down the
(48:35):
middle and exactly down the middle like a cross, and
then you take the object that you think might be
a lens player and draw a line between it and
the cross in the center. You go through and does
it run into anything else that's bright? Binkou runs into
this photo. And so there's a total association or direct
(49:00):
relationship between this portal and this image that turns out
is a face another word, is a reflection coming from
here from this portal, And this is what's in it.
Isn't that wild? I have never in all my analysis, yeah,
(49:22):
the UFO hundreds and hundreds of thousands of never seen
anything like this.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
This is this is totally amazing, and this is what
just blows this case up because it is it's so rare.
It's so rare. Now we don't know what that means,
and of course more investigation is needed, but one of
the things that I do and Larry does is remote viewing.
(49:53):
So I had to know what was going on with this,
and so I remote viewed it and and I instantly
got the impression that this was a very high energy,
benevolent extraterrestrial. And that's when I looked at it on
my own. And then earlier today Carl and Larry and
(50:16):
I had a zoom session together and as I looked
at it again, I heard Arcturian and then I got
chills all over that this is a bona fide extraterrestrial
and very high energy. And then Larry, do you want
to explain what you did?
Speaker 7 (50:38):
Yeah? I also did a remote view late morning today
and decided to What I was trying to figure out
was what were they? What was going on? What was
the face doing? And I I felt like heat and
(51:00):
a lot of brightness once I got into the remote view,
and it was almost like I was close by, and
I asked the question, what's your interestew, what are you
looking at? What are you wanting? And the answer came back,
looking at your world?
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, And I forgot to mention that the word that
I got earlier was observing that they were watching us.
Speaker 7 (51:32):
Yeah, so you know, it's in a way, it's kind
of like today what we the technology that are that
limits us is we have telescopes, well, at least we
have some telescopes that are powerful enough that we can
see some planets in authority. Can you imagine seeing in
(51:53):
this close into a planet light years away and have
the technology to do that and be able to see
and visit this area on this other plane so so
far away. That's kind of there a version of a telescope,
only their technology is so far beyond that. And we
just happened to have copped it that your photo, uh,
(52:18):
and then the analysis of it and making it viewable
as to what it is, uh, has allowed us to
capture this moment. So thank goodness. So you were taking photo.
Speaker 5 (52:31):
Of Absolutely it's not my photo.
Speaker 7 (52:37):
No, it's okay, who took it?
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Is this your photo? Little lou? This is the third witness.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
I just don't understand why confused?
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, this is the third witness, thank thank goodness, thank god.
Speaker 7 (52:57):
Yeah, but seeing something nobody has ever seen.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
Before, exactly exactly, no wonder, I felt like peace coming
over me.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
Then, honestly, yes, absolutely, I think that's very connected. Yeah,
they were they knew what you were going through and
they calmed you down.
Speaker 5 (53:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
So here we have some benevolent extraterrestrials traveling through a wormhole,
and you ladies saw it, and and somebody else got
a photo that is going to go down in history.
I mean, this is just amazing, and I want to
thank all of you for sharing your stories tonight. And
(53:45):
this is obviously going to be an ongoing case. I
know we're discussing going out there together, and we do,
the three of us work together a lot, so we're
going to be probably adding a couple more investigators with
all kinds of equipment, and we'll see what we can
get scientifically as far as evidence is concerned. But this
(54:10):
is I think this is just a tip of the
iceberg here. I think we're really onto something big.
Speaker 9 (54:16):
Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 6 (54:17):
I honestly believe that you're onto something big. I will say, though,
do you look out my window every night now?
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Just because absolutely you never know?
Speaker 6 (54:31):
No, you don't, And I wonder if they'll return. And
then when I spoke with my neighbor who's on the
other side of the field that I'm looking at to
the east, he says, there's he's got a lot to say.
It's not the first time I've got to heard that,
(54:52):
So yeah, I'm in touch with Carl right away.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
So you've got a lot going on there in law
Suit known as a paranormal hotspot or something there.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
But there are lay lines around us.
Speaker 4 (55:09):
Lines okay, Yeah, that would understand why what I go
through then?
Speaker 9 (55:16):
Honestly, yeah, we've got a lot of lay lines around us.
What's interesting enough is that there's a lot of water
under the ground here in Lawson.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Damn uh well, yeah, that could have something to do
with it. And I think Carl, didn't you say there
was a lot of mining going on there.
Speaker 5 (55:37):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Elmira area in Lost Area was famous at one point
for mining. Okay. Also to put in a commercial, we
need more investigators, as you can see, go to move
on dot com, join and then become an investigator. If
you need help, I'm available.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yep, Carl, and we've got other investigators that are there
to help get you on your way. Because Missouri in
general is a hot stop spot. We are usually in
the top ten for sightings nationwide, even though our state
doesn't have as large a population as some others. And occasionally.
(56:20):
We we have had some major flaps here. And of
course we've got a book coming up which I haven't
even announced yet, but we're going to because we're getting
on it. It's called Missouri UFO Hotspot and we've got
some of the best cases, best move on cases. It's
a move on book and that should be out later
(56:43):
this year, and I think this case is going in there.
What do you think, guys?
Speaker 6 (56:48):
Oh yeah, I have a question that's really intriguing to
know is do do you think.
Speaker 9 (56:57):
That these UFOs have like any type of.
Speaker 10 (57:03):
Recurrence where they come around when there has been like
a natural disaster like the flood in ninety three.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
They they do. They have been seen during every disaster.
Somebody has seen him, caught him on video. I'm thinking
about the Joplin tornadoes that happened at F five that
hit Joplin, right on the news. We're watching the news
live and I see UFOs going in and out of
the tornado. Yeah, that's on film.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen that as well.
Speaker 9 (57:36):
We went and did clean up in.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
A friend of mine by the name of A well,
i'll just say CJ H.
Speaker 10 (57:44):
He's alignment and they had to go and turn all
the power on, and you know, we.
Speaker 9 (57:48):
Saw some really interesting things.
Speaker 3 (57:51):
Down there while we were at Oh Choplin.
Speaker 10 (57:56):
Yeah, but it was just mostly like just you know,
real weird lights, that's it.
Speaker 9 (58:03):
But it wasn't like, you know, it's a flash of
lights and stuff, that was it.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Okay, Okay, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (58:10):
There are keepers is what I think.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Yeah, I agree with you, Jennifer.
Speaker 10 (58:16):
You know, it's also interesting enough is the fact that
when when Marjorie brought up the they followed DNA.
Speaker 9 (58:23):
That got me thinking, you know, because the human DNA,
the genome is actually.
Speaker 10 (58:26):
A lot older than this earth. That's you know, maybe
I don't know their children.
Speaker 2 (58:39):
The general consensus is that we are somebody's creation and
they've been messing with us ever since.
Speaker 9 (58:45):
Yeah, like putting a Petri dish hang out.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, thanks guys for coming on. I
really appreciate it. Uh, let's keep in touch on this
case and we get any new fantastic development, we'll do
another show. And of course this is going in the book.
And thank you so much. Carl. Did you have some
final thoughts.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
Might invite him to our Saturday meeting?
Speaker 2 (59:13):
Well, there you go. Okay, Saturday. This Saturday, Johnny's Tavern
in Blue Springs. We have a monthly Kansas City move
On meeting, So if anybody's in greater Kansas City area,
and hey, if you live in Kansas, we'll let you come,
all right, you can cross the money come over here. Yeah,
(59:36):
all right, all right, fantastic, So everybody's invited to that.
Just you can see more on our website and the website, Okay,
this is a weird one. It's move on Central Region
dot org. Move on Central Region dot org and that
is for the whole area. Been including this. And then
(59:58):
we also have a move on page Missouri mof on
on Facebook, so you can look us up there and
check that out. All right, guys, thank you so much,
Thank you everybody for being on the show tonight. And
this is Margi.
Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Kay.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
We are going to sign off for this evening. And
we had a couple of messages in the chat that
I just want to show real quick. He says, I've
seen five ships chasing each other at speed over my house. Wow,
and it's been taken off world to what seemed like
(01:00:34):
a medical ward. Yeah all right, and Eric says, we
do not need tornadoes and Joplin to see weird things.
It's Joplin.
Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
That is true. I used to live near Joplin, and
I completely understand where you're coming from on that one.
All Right, guys, thanks so much.
Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
Thank you, Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
All right, they be
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
And Li