Theo Brady and Jack Waters Talk Love, Dating, & 5 Foot Long Reptiles

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Please welcome Jackwaters, the adorably sexyand boyish addie who steals hearts and heart
ons over at Stay Uncle and NextdoorStudios, earning him the prestigious title of
cybersocket stead of minds. Look atthat booty. He exudes a youthful charm

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that makes him irresistible both on andoff camera. And I have seen him
at work in social settings. Hello, he gave half of Palm Springs a
heart attack. Beyond his looks,he has genuine kindness and that is true
in a sense of humor. Itmakes him all all kinds of fun to
be around. And he's a twinkwho tops oh my god, a unicorn.
Please welcome Jackwaters. Hello, Hello, also join us. Theo Brady

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became an instant fan favorite when hehit the adult industry in two eighteen.
By the way, he was headheadon to on social media by Guys and
Sweatpants site owner and porn star AustinWilde. He's gone on to film with
major studios like Men dot Com,Cocky Boys, and next Door Studios.
Please welcome bad Boy. Theo Brady'sokay, so we have to ask this,

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are you really a bad boy?Because you got the tattoos, you
got that look and like can yousmile in Instagram once? Oh no,
it's against my brand, like literalislike It's like, why so serious?
Are you the bad guy? Thatthat not bad guy? But like are
you like you know, oh yeah, when the time is right, I'm
I definitely carry. It's probably likea ninety thirty or seventy. There we

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got it's architect many. I lovethat. But okay, but I've known
you, We've become friends. I'veseen you on set, I've seen you
in social studies. You are anice guy. You've also talked in some
of our interviews that you're kind oflike a romantic as well. So you're
not that total no, I'm likeso like it's like, when the time

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is right, I can be butlike most of the time, I'm a
softy yeah. Oh did you guyshear that? On the flip side,
Jack Waters like You're like, oohme, I'm like the lollipop girl.
What is that your real personality?I mean, can you can you cut
a bit? Oh yeah for sure, for sure, Yes, I'm ready
always let's go. But you're notlike this sweet innocent like you understand life,

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like you have a little bite toyou. Yeah, whenever I need
to. But I tried to avoidbiting people. You know, I've seen
the videos honey, bite, bite, bite, with all your night.
Okay, So we we ask allthe typical porn questions that you guys have
probably like I've only been asked this. I want to talk early beginnings though,

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Where did you grow up? Andlike what kind of kid were you?
Like a year ago, because youwere like in kindergarten last year,
Like I'm going to prom he's likea year ago, a year ago?
Let me think. Okay, soa year ago is actually, honey,
I'm kidding, like when you werelike a little god got map here and
like social situations here. Okay.So I grew up in a southwest Missouri,

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Missouri, on a little farm withmy family, like a literally like
a little farm. Yeah, likea small farm. Is that why you
have? How many animals? Now? Yes? How many animals you have?
So right now I think we havefourteen animals? So we have seven
six six or seven exotic animals andthen the rest are like cats, and
I mean the exotic animals are likeare they like on a strip or pole

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like in bikinis? Like is thatthe exotic animal? I have an African
socculta tortoise, which is like agiant tortoise they live a long time,
by the way, Yes, theydo, they do. And then I
also have two Asian water monitors,which are like eight foot lizards, and
then two black throat monitors which arelike six foot lizards, and then a
white throw monitor which we'll get aboutfive feet, and black and white Argentine

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tegu which is about three feet.What's your fascination with these kind of creatures?
So, actually I love all animals. Like I said, I grew
up like to eat them. Yeah, fair enough, clearly. So I
grew up with a lot of differentexotic animals as well as like normal household
animals. My dad was supernant animals, so he had exotic animals. I
grew up like. He had amountain lion, he had a wolf,
he had bobcat, he had awolf fox, we had we had some

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an please tell me. Unfortunately nohe's married, by the way, pooh,
well we can't have them. Sothen yeah, so then I just
used that, and then I gotmore fascinated with animals whenever I moved to
California and got out on my ownand I got a ball python, and

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then everybody I knew knew I likedanimals. So then they're like, oh,
I'm getting rid of this, I'mgetting rid of that. Do you
want to do? You want totake it? And then I just slowly
accumulated more and more animals, somelike I had a scorpion, had a
transula I had. I had likefour snakes, five snakes. Some were
big, some were little. Andthat's just how it started. And then

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I got the black and white Argentinetagu, and my landlord, who was
also my roommate, fell in lovewith the tegu and started getting more giant
lizards. And he found out thatI had always wanted a black sorry an
Asian water monitor, So for mybirthday he got me one because they're very
expensive, so I was like holdingout for a while and he got me
one, and then he got more. I had no clue, like all

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this animal stuff was going on.Yeah as a zoom. Okay, so
life on the ranch, you're thislittle kid, Like what kind of kid
were you? At school? Waslike like your classroom like twenty kids?
Yes, so my graduate my graduatingclass was sixteen. That is so I
hated high school. So I dideverything I could to get out of it
as soon as as soon as possible. So I found a loophole through some

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homeschool things, and I sent aletter to the Missouri Board of Education.
They approved it, and I tooka test, and I graduated. They
moved out to Cali. So youhated high school. You weren't part of
like the drama club, cheerleading oranything like that. No, we didn't
really have guide cheerleaders at schools.Well you did, they just weren't out
cheerleading in their room. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we had that.

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So how do you have this kindof like contents because you do have
a comments like we joke about likeyou're innocent whatever, But like I've hung
out with you plenty times, andyou've made it work in the business for
yourself. You've hustled, you've calledthe studios like you really marketed yourself and
with your own like fans content.So then where do you get this kind
of strength from coming from such asmall little place and you're like, I
can't deal with people. I thinkthe majority of it comes from I like

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I raised myself for the most part. My mom was physically disabled. She
has a single mother. I wastheir sixth child, and my dad was
not really in the picture, andmy siblings were like all ten years older
or more, so they were likegoing into college or juvie for some of
them, and like going out intheir own journey in life whenever I was
growing up, so there wasn't anybodyto really look after me. So I
kind of had to do it myself. And that's become a really good advantage

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for me. Especially in the adultindustry. You kind of have to look
out for yourself. It's like thestudios are doing it. It's not like
they're teaching you how like the insand outs of everything. Yeah, no,
No, the studios usually are noton your side one hundred percent,
even the studios. Yeah THEO Brady, were you like always the bad kid
in detention? Fuck? Yeah,yeah, I can see this, like

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I can total was such a lastclown, Like it was just really out
of hand. No, where didyou grow up? I originally grew up
in a small town about forty fiveminutes out of Saint Louis. But we
had like I mean we I didn'tlike live on a farm, but like
we lived on like farm land,you know what I mean. But I

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grew up doing a lot of likeguy shit, Like I hunted, like
I traveled to like Alaska, likeall these places you can think of,
and like big Game hunted like mydad on like hunting lodges and like all
of that. I did motocross alot. You're making everybody's porn fantasy,
like just had I hate to sayit though, but like my childhood was
so focused on because I grew updoing MMA and wrestling, so like it

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was so focused on like training,so turned the air conditioner up. So
like the first time that I've seenan inside of a gym, I was
probably like ten years old, legit, So like all I knew was like
wake up up, we train inthe morning, go to school, train
again, do my homework, goto bed, repeat. You know.
Like that's a tough one because Iwant it to be the best, like

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in that sport, and like thatsport, like I wasn't really able to
play any other sports because you hadto focus like mainly on that if you
want to be the best. ButI mean I killed it. I was
ranked like number two and like thenation, So why don't you follow that
like part of your like I gotburnt out. It's it's it's a lot
of that we say that sport islike people think it's strength, but it's

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ninety percent mentality. It's just likebecause you think about it every Like first
of all, like imagine me tellingyou that, say, if it's football,
soccer, no matter what you play, before you go compete in a
tournament, you have to lose sixpounds or you have to like train to
lose six pounds and then compete andbe at your full strength. Like why
that is is because say, ifyou are wrestling in a one forty five

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weight class and you only weigh oneforty five, you're going to be wrestling
people that are one fifty two.You get what I'm saying That they're cutting
down so they're gonna have the advantageno matter what. Like I would be
in school, like for instance,like what I would have for breakfast would
be like literally one egg but onlyegg whites and like a half half glass
of water. So like, Ihonestly think that's why my body is the

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way it is is because it's likeprogram because I've ever since I mean,
people don't see gyms till they're likehow old, And I was in there
at like ten years old. Likeliftingly, when people always comment on your
body, he's like, oh,he's so fit, he's so thin.
It's like people like your fans don'tunderstand it comes from these years and years
of conditioning. It's like a differentlevel of training. I mean, like

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intense training, like hours. That'swhy I stay away from gyms and sports
and all that. Like who needsall that pressure? But I'm gonna talk
about this because kind of being likein the wrestling world in MMA, there's
just like masculine kind of energy.It's like muscle and like, h now,
how did you deal with that withlike your sexuality kind of blossoming as
a pan sexual one. I mean, it wasn't really difficult because that sport

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is so that's why it chose thatsport. I can work in teams,
but I prefer not to. Doesthat make sense, honey. I've seen
you solo, I've seen you witha team. I've seen you one on
one. I've seen you in athree stome. I know how you work.
So therefore, like I was like, I want to pick a sport
like I don't like like the outcomeof like winning being up to other people.
Like if I lost, it wasmy fault. I knew exactly why

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I lost in what I need todo to change it, you know what
I'm saying. So therefore, likewait, what was the original questions like
the fighting of like being in asuper masculine environment, but then your sexuality
kind of coming in there, likemaybe I like boys too. Yeah,
yeah, So what I was sayingis it's so like it's such a competitive
competitive sport that I swear I canliterally promise you and like you're dead in

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the eyes. I have never oncethought about a guy that way during practice
during what like it is truly likeI am here to kick the ship out
of this guy, and I wantto I want first place, you know
what I mean, like, andit's up to you. That's why I
love it. And I also didn'teven know, truly, like truly that
I was into guys until I wasprobably like nineteen or twenty, So like

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therefore, like it wasn't I didn'treally have the time or like the upbringing
to even have those thoughts. LikeI mean, I grew up in a
household where if my dad caught mewatching like that's so raven, like he
would get pissed and be like that'sa girl show, Like well, I'd
be pissed as a parent because it'sa shitty show, but that's one of
the best ones out of Hannah Montana'sSweet Life is it's at least the best

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one. Which one would you sayis the best? For real? I
want to know, honey, I'min a different generation. I'm like Magnum
p I was a great show.There's like this plank, But I guess
I'm talking more about the energy behindit in terms of like not just you
know, wanting to compete, butthe conditions, like when you started to
feel feelings, like at nineteen twenty, how did that even like come into

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existence? Did you meet somebody becauseyou've you told us in one of your
interviews that you lost your virginia toyour girlfriend that was just like your way
of life exactly. So how didhow did the whole male? To be
honest, I literally have no fuckingidea. I think it was the fact
of, like I grew up allthe time in school of like people like
they were like calling me gay andstuff, and like when I would get

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mad about it and offended, itwasn't in a way of like me trying
to hide something. I genuinely feltlike I was being like identified as somebody
that I was not, you knowwhat I'm saying. So therefore I was
just like, dude, like I'mnot like I like these girls that I've
dated, and I've dated girls atmy age now like I actually like care
for like I take care of themlike it's it was the same way as

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a boy. So therefore, like, honestly, I just think it was
I got older and I was ableto create my own ideas about like things
that I'm interested in instead of likewhat I was forced to be interested in
growing up, you know what I'msaying. So I created my own idea
as my own thoughts, my ownvibe, my own everything. And I
think it was just I realized thatI'm such an open minded person when it

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comes to really anything, and likemy sexual attraction towards a human has nothing
to do with their gender their sex. We're gonna talk more about that little
bit later because I know some ofthe porn that you filmed is like,
you know, it's bisexual. It'sit's kind of this whole celebration, So
we're gonna talk about that in alittle bit because we're gonna talk about fans
reaction to to that. Jack,when did your sexuality kind of start to

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form on that small little farm.It's like you saw a sexy like manly
go You're like, ma'am, pleasenever, I would never. So I
the first time I can remember experiencingfeelings or anything with a guy was don't
have to be with a guy whocould be like No, it was with
a guy because I'm gay, Sowould be with a girl can love me?

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No, ma'am. So I wasstaying the night at a friend's house,
a good friend's house. I wasactually I think we're at his grandparents,
which kind of makes it worse,but god, the story is just
going south so bad. So therewas a bunch of us staying the night,
and this was something we commonly did, like we would have. But
he had a bunch of siblings ina big family too, and all of

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them would stay over wherever we stayed, and all of their friends would stay
too, So it would be likefifteen of us on any given weekend staying
the night at their their house.Yeah. Yeah, well there was girls
there too, so I was notabout to do anything. So but then
one night, one of his olderbrother's friends, who was sleeping on the

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couch next to me, and wewere the only ones awake, and next
thing you know, stuff was touching, and it just led into this kind
of unspoken relationship. We didn't reallytalk about it, we didn't really text
about it, and that was kindof it, like we we would talk

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about hanging out, but we neveraddressed what happened or yeah so, And
that's just kind of how it wentfor a little bit until it didn't anymore.
And then I used that to buildup the confidence to get the fuck
out of there and go somewhere whereI could be myself without a worry of
judgment because my family was heavily involvedin the church, so and therefore I

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was as well, And I didn'twant that to come back somehow to anybody
I knew within the ministry. Now, did you equate that kind of physical
experience? Did you equate that withlike love feelings or did you think it
was just a man on man physicalthing, or did you feel like emotion?
I felt emotion. I felt emotion, but mainly because it was somebody

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I had had a crushed on fora little while. Now, so you
knew I was scouting him out,yet oh you ended up next to him
on the sofa. Okay, Isay you're watching meme girls. You're like,
where is this Knna go. Well, I didn't say that, but
I did. We have a questionfrom the chat room, Tony, can
you make that bigger? I havevodka eyes? Jack? What animal best

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describes your person No, not thatbig, I'm not eighty. What animal
that's describes in personality? Yeah?Like, what's your spirit animal? Actually?
I want this from both of you, Like, what is your spirit
animal? I feel like an elephantsspirit animal? What? Yeah, because
they're old and wise? Well,because you have old No, no,
no, What I mean is like, because you have a maturity, because

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you've had Yeah, I think there'sstrength one. I like how elephants signifies
significant strength, and then also andindependence, but still they rely on relationships.
Relationships are very important to me.And then also their memory. They
don't forget anything, and bitch,I don't forget. I won't forget,
forgive, forget exactly. That's areally smart answer. Actually, because I

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never an elephant, I was like, what, But now you made it
make sense. What's your spirit animal? I would say probably like a bald
eagle. Oh, because they're rareand they're kind of fear, just like
mysterious and just that's you. Theyhave these eyes? Do you have those?
Every Instagram post it's about the eyes. Yea, whether you're looking there,
have you seen that TikTok? Orit's like uh u s a please?

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Okay. So another question from thechat room is how do you balance
love and dating while being in theindustry? So how much time you got
that part? Poor another let's startwith basics or either one of you seen
somebody? Yes, not really?What does that mean? I mean,

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there's a guy. Have you beenon it? If you've been on a
date more than four times with somebodyyou're seeing no, no, not seeing
it? Is your Is your toothbrushout of his house? No? No,
that's lesbian status. That's like yeah, yeah, it doesn't mean you
live there. I can imagine THEOknocking the door with this deethrush, like
right, I'm ready. You hide. Yeah, even if you bring it
with you, you hide that becausethat's a weird other level. When some

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guy puts toothbrush at my house,I'm like, called up. How long
until that's applicable? Two years?I love my space, I love my
own time. I'm saying, whatif like it's like, Oh, we're
gonna go to your kiddo tonight orthis house tonight. Like I don't want
to have if it's like third like, if it's a regular thing, happened
to pack that ship up? Everyrespectfully, I don't. I don't trust

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anybody around my toothbrush like that goesin my mouth and that's what's supposed to
clean. I've seen what you putin your mouth is important. That's why
the toothbrush is. I put yourtoothbrush up my ass. I'm like,
but it is funny. Why isa toothbrush so intimate? It really is?
It? Really is? It is? Okay, So you've dated a
guy like three times, I've hadthree boyfriends? Yes, whoa? But

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where are you currently single? Isthis part of your threable right now?
Is this what we're doing? Ohmy god, I just called it.
I just called it. There aretwo other very cute gentlemen in the studio,
and so is that no, no, no, no friends, we
don't stop at three. They're pollyno. So, but how like,

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is there romance involved in your liferight now? Is it weird being in
the industry and then kind of havingthat romantic element I'm going to need more
for this. Yeah, I wasabout to pour. Yes, I'm going
to pass that down. Poor yourselfjust because I'm Latino. Jesus, I'll
take another one because garthall, Ican't everybody bad boy THEO just snorted.

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Let's answer that real quick. Sowait, what was the question, like,
like, is there romance? Isthere kind of element? And how
do you mix that into your lifebeing a porn star because you are busy,
You're busy, busy, busy,busy, and you've also told us
for flesh spotted interviews like and weknow this you guys is porn star have
to be very regimented in who you'resleeping with whatever, because it could mean

(21:04):
you lose your next job if youget nesty or something like that. Like
you have to be very careful.So I am very careful. I really
don't see a lot of people outsideof work, but I kind of like
it that way because if I amgoing to have a romantic relationship, I'd
prefer it is somebody who is alreadyin the industry, is somebody who is
willing to jump into the industry forthe sake of me continuing my own career.

(21:26):
If I was to be in anexclusive relationship, which I am open
to, I would need that personto also join me on my only fans
and my porn career because the realityis that is my current future at the
moment and I'm not willing to changethat just because of one person. You
shouldn't. But what if you wereto meet somebody was like, go do
you and then I'll be home whenyou come home. But I'm not going

(21:48):
to get involved in that. Imean, I don't think I would like
that very much. One. Idon't. I don't think it would be
fair to them. And even ifthey would try to claim that they're okay
with it, I would me becauseI'm all about it like fairness, equality,
and I wouldn't. I wouldn't beokay with that if it was a
close relationship. But like both ofyou guys are very young. It's not

(22:11):
like you're looking for your next likegroom. Yeah, I'm not in a
rush. Yeah it could be nice, but I'm not in a rush.
THEO share, Oh you are ina relationship, No, you're just seeing
somebody. So we're four dates ormore, we're like to the brush is
already each other's houses. We passedthe three months of three months, that's

(22:33):
a chunk. What do you wantme to pass spending a significant amount of
time together like per week? Yeah, okay, how did you guys meet?
You don't have to like give details, like you don't want to,
but yeah, I've learned from mypast that, like when it comes to
relationships within this industry, I liketo keep it completely private. But because
I can give, I can giveyou a tea, but like I'm not

(22:56):
going to mention anything about who.No, no, I don't want to
know that. No, no,no, So it's somebody in the industry.
Yes, Is that how you metwith like filming a scene together?
No, we actually just knew eachother through the industry, but then we
did film a scene together because likewe were like talking about filming scene,
and honestly, it's really one ofthe only scenes that I actually built an

(23:18):
attraction. Like from the scene.I was like, holy fuck, because
it was just like the talking beforeand talking before we we were like friends
for like a year actually before thedynamic changed. It sounds like it's serious.
So therefore, like it was justnice because when I started, like
when the dynamic changed, I didn'thave to get to know him, Like

(23:41):
I got to know him in themost real way possible because we were friends.
He wasn't putting on this facade oflike somebody that he wasn't in order
to be what he thinks I'd wanthim to be, you know, Like
I got to see his lows,Like he's been honest with me about like
his past, like and like normally, like I would not fuck with that
because like I do know so muchabout him, but like I knew,

(24:02):
I did fuck with him a lotbecause I don't care. You know what
I'm saying, well, and itmakes the relationship stronger. Yeah, Now,
were you attracted to him when youguys were just friends. I wouldn't
say, I would say sexually,but emotionally. No, interesting, because
like we did like we were wewere like we would hug up every now
and then because we were just comfortablewith each other. But like, but

(24:25):
like I didn't go to bed thinkingabout him, like I didn't. I
did, but now you do.Yeah, oh you guys so jealous?
Fuck you. I want to knowabout the first scene that you filmed.
So I already talked about how youkind of gotten the business you know well,
and part of the backstory, becauseit's like, we know you got
recruited by guys and sweatpants, butthe backstory behind that. Can you talk

(24:48):
a little bit about the family kindof elements. Yeah, So I actually
never I've never been to college,but I my dad owns multiple businesses,
and so therefore when I was likegraduating, like I actually originally almost went
into the Air Force, like Iwent and like did the like I had
like there's another like a set likea set date of deployment, and I

(25:10):
backed out and I was like,no, I want to work with my
dad and like take over as companiesblah blah blah. But rewinding back to
my past, I mean my dadis we're completely different people. We're good
now because it's very generic conversation oflike, hey, how's your day,
like blah blah blah. Have youcome out as a porn star? No,
I think he knows, But it'sthe same thing with my sexuality.

(25:32):
He definitely knows about that. Butlike the porn star thing, I think
like he knows, but like wedon't need to have the conversation. Like
for instance, like one time Ibrought a partner of mine over for Christmas
and he knew that it was mypartner, and he was like laughing with
him, like and it's really coolbecause I never expected that person of the
story why I'm telling you about whyI got started in the industry because rewinding,

(25:55):
he like he was just super justso bad to me and all kinds
of different ways. But I wasactually outside and like a hundred and plus
degree weather, like shoveling gravel becauselike one of the companies was like outdoor
entertainments, like you know, likefancy like fireplaces and like pavements outdoors and
shit like that. So I'm likeout there doing that and I get a
message from Austin Wilde like on mylike real Twitter, like my like my

(26:18):
like government first and last name,like not like anything like it was just
like like artistic pictures of me butnot even like sexual. Still not smiling
though, And basically he hit meup and was like, hey, like
I love your look, I loveyour aesthetic. Have you ever thought about
doing porn? And honestly, likea small town boy, like I read
this and I was like this funka guy is weird, Like he's hit

(26:38):
me up and then like and thenI think my dad, like pissed me
off or something, I like setmy sseubble down and I was like deuces
and I hit him up. Iwas like when and where? And then
I did it. And then Idid like one or two scenes I wanted.
It couldn't have been that many withguys and sweatparents. It wasn't.
But like, you literally became aninstant fan favorite, and why do you
think that that is? Honestly,I wish I could say, because like

(27:00):
when I did the two scenes withguys and sweatpants, then I get hit
up by I don't even know who, someone high up in mind geek and
being like hey, And this waswhen I had, like I want to
say, I had like twenty fivethousand followers, like I wasn't even anything,
and Men was like we want tosign you, like we want you.
And then when they release the statementof like why they wanted me to

(27:21):
be exclusive, they're like, weknow he's basically they said in a nice
way, we know he's a nobody, but we see the potential of him
becoming something. And I wish Icould answer that question, but honestly,
I don't. I just I'm justmy I'm just authentically me. Like that's
all I can say. Like Istopped caring about offending people and like pleasing
everyone, and I think that getsyou more far than being fake honestly undred

(27:42):
percent. And you also bring adifferent look. You bring a different energy
to your scenes no matter what kindof scene you're in, because you filmed
a lot of different scenarios, andso you like getting into it. Tell
I know the story, but likeshare share my first scenes. Yeah.
Well, so I was actually managingrestaurants. I managed three restaurants, and

(28:06):
so cal You've done so much andyou're like you're still like like little baby.
It's like, I it's twenty fourTi Friday. Yeah, I turned
twenty next month. In case anybody'swondering, twenty one. Wait are you
for Are you for real on mybirthdays next month? Dude? Twenty one?
That's crazy. No, it'll betwenty two. Hello, oh yeah,
it's for the studio. So yeah, so I was managing restaurants.

(28:33):
I was managing three restaurants, andI hated it. I was working like
one hundred hour plus weeks. Iwas not getting paid enough. Taxes were
a fucking bitch, and I wantedto do something else, but I didn't
know what I wanted to do beforeI quit. I actually went to a
Vita in Los Angeles. It's likea club that hosts a party once a

(28:55):
week for the gays. It's likea theme night at whatever club. But
it's it's like stepping back to Studiofifty four. Shit. When I walk
in, it's like a Vida stops. Like I was like no anyway,
So I was out of Vida andI met who did I mean? I
met Astra Haynes and another Humix modeland we won't we don't need to name

(29:21):
names anyway. So I met themand they asked to hang out the next
weekend, and I didn't know thatthey did porn yet, so I was
like, yeah, sure whatever,let's leng out. You guys are hot,
let's do it. So I didit, and then I went to
the apartment into pregame and then theytold me they were porn stars and I
was like what, that's cool,like okay, and then they were like,
oh yeah, but by the way, like you're super hot. If

(29:42):
you ever want to start, we'lltotally get you in. I was like,
oh, thank you, Like Icould never do that, that's not
my thing, Like this against mymorals. I hate the fact that sex
work is related to morals because peopleare doing the same thing in our own
private lives. Has nothing to dowith that. I hate that it's quite

(30:02):
on that thing. People watch it. Yeah, I mean, you know,
at Flashpot we get demographics as towhat states are watching what kind of
porn, and then we see whatlaws are being passed. It's like,
bitch, you're watching their porn,but you can't support them as people don't
understand it is interesting, it's thejudgment is very interesting. But yeah.

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So then a few months past ofme working at the restaurant a little bit
longer, and I was like,I need to change things. So I
actually started started studying to be amortgage loan originator for Zillo, and I
got all of my previs A goodjob by the way, and yeah,
its it's a pretty good job.It pays very well if you're good at
it, and I was confident thatI would be good at it, but
I didn't pursue it. I didn'tactually take my exam because I didn't want

(30:48):
to have an office shop, especiallywe're still coming out of COVID. I
would have been sitting in my housefor like nine hours a day because at
that time the market was so goodthat everybody was working over time and they
were making a killing. But Idid not want to be stuck at at
dusk that long. I couldn't doit. So then I was like,
uh, you know, can yougive me a job at the studio?
And so then I went. Iwent, and I did it, and

(31:15):
my first scenes weren't too It wasn'tsuch a great experience. But we don't
need to get in share, No, that's what we want to share.
Yeah, we want to hear thebehind the scenes because because you also became
a really quick fan favorite, wellthank you. That was at Helix Studios,
and I was really confident in everythingthat I was doing there. I

(31:36):
wasn't shy in front of the camerasor directors or anything like that. I
went in a lot more confident thanI even expected myself to be. Honestly,
I thought I would be a lotmore nervous and scared. But I
did fine. But then it wasit was the lack of scheduling and there
was some minor issues with the modelnot getting up on time and things like

(31:57):
that, and it just like andnot good experience. I was there for
a week for two scenes, whichare now my lowest paid scenes I've ever
been paid for, which I wasvery shocked because I expected to make bank
with them, because you know,before I joined the porn industry, I
thought so highly of that studio becauseI heard so highly from people who watched

(32:21):
that studio, and I didn't knowanybody. The only person I knew I
won't mention his name, but hewasn't the most reliable source that had worked
for them, and I didn't trusthis opinions, so I was like,
you know, fuck out, I'mgonna go find out for myself. And
that's kind of how I've always been. I like to know for myself because
I usually have different opinions from otherpeople. And I did go find out

(32:44):
for myself, and I didn't.It's in the past now, like we've
been there, done that, andmoving on. But both of you done
like very well in the industry,like you just have. Okay, we're
gonna do some little rapid fire fromemails that we got. Jack, do
you get tired of being cast witholder guys? Mm hmm, be honest,

(33:08):
be careful how you answer this question. I know well and here's the
thing. It's like, you guyshave been a whole thing. No no,
no, no, no, no, no, no no. Both
you guys are have been titled astwinks. You got the straight up gay
uh. We didn't change. It'sa twink for me though, and the
and in the announcement it's like you'rea twink and then you have tattoos,

(33:30):
you're a twunk. Like where youfeel like feel like a twink is also
like a personality as well. Ithink hundred kind of ye, like Josh
Brady is still considered a twink twinksbut I think no, but like in
a positive way. But it's yeah, yeah, that's fair, that's fair.

(33:52):
It was no, it's like doyou get tired of having not that
you don't enjoy it or whatever.But like, as a twink, we
know the industry, we're not forthe past I think three years, I
would say the industry is really obsessedwith this pairing of older guys and younger
guys. Yes, that is veryin right now, and you know,

(34:12):
standards change for like what is thenorm at the time, and as porn
stars and as actors, that's kindof what we have to evolve to However,
I will say I do get alittle tired of it sometimes, and
that's actually why I take my breaksand go disappear to Europe for three months
at a time for half the yearevery year, because it gives me that
little break and then I can godo the things I like to do.

(34:36):
And I've been having a wonderful yearthis this year, so real have been
crazy busy. I have been.I've been very busy, and I'm so
excited for everybody see what I've beenbusy doing. But like every week you're
like in a different city, You'relike at a different nation, Like it's
this week. I've been in twodifferent three different countries, eight different cities
just this week, twenty different men. Amazing though, how we come from,

(34:59):
like where we came from. Yeah, and it's so constant. People
don't understand like how big it isfor like or like big of a deal
it is for like it really isa big deal. I'm excited every rom
they don't leave, you know,no, they don't just stay there.
My sister is, my brother is, like, I see it. I
call them and I talked to them, And then every time I talk to
my own family, I realize howbig of a thing that I do is

(35:21):
there's comfort in safety exactly if youknow that it's going to be this till
the day you die, there's acomfort level there, there is or we
could take a chance and do thisand that you know, going to school.
So along the lines of like,guys at your cast with you have
filmed with all kinds of different types. Oh yes, do you have a

(35:44):
type on camera you like to filmwith? Do you have a type off
camera that you like to film with? Like? Literally I can tell you,
oh, like I literally don't havea time. Like if you've seen
my track record too, you'd belike, he doesn't have a type,
Like literally, I don't. I'mso I don't know. I just believe
what you want. But for real, Like, I literally won't favor one

(36:06):
human being over another, but oncethey open their mouths, that changes personality.
Yeah, people are a lot prettierover with their mouth shot orful gone.
Okay, So this comes from ourchat room as well. And I
was a little surprised because you know, at Flashbot, we see all the
scenes coming in. We're like,oh, we're gonna review this, We're
gonna interview this person. Uh,what have you. Both of you guys

(36:29):
have filmed kink scenes, which issuch even though you have tattoos, I
don't like consider like, oh andit was suck, Like, oh,
you know, Jack, what isdoing kink? And it was like kink?
What kind of kinks do you havein real life? Honestly, I'm
kind of bored. It depends,though, it depends so like if I

(36:54):
if I am into a daddy.Let's say it doesn't happen so often for
me personally, and I'm okay withthat, but that's great, but it
does happen. And when it doeshappen, I would say I can be
a little bit submissive, and sometimesit shocked myself because uh, not a
little bit. I get a lotof it, but that shocks me because

(37:15):
I'm not normally and it's a verydifferent feeling I would. I know that
sounds so vanilla, but but tome, it's kind of like a kin
because it's a yeahs it's not.It's not kind of a king. The
kink that we saw you in waslike like, oh, I was trapped
up. I was tied up fromthis ceiling. Did you like that?

(37:37):
No? That was so uncomfortable thatit was awful, but you're into it
or you're not. Exactly you're intoit, you're not. And I think
I could be into some of thosetypes of things with the right person.
However, I've not found a personthat I trust enough yet. Kink is
all about safety. They are real, they are really good about safety.
I will give them that. Iwill give them that. However, the

(38:00):
partner I was paired with in bothoccasions was perhaps not the best person to
be carrying out this time. He'swatching this right now, he just tuned
out. He's like, he's likefuck him. So like, but if
you had a kink in real life, like, like what would your maybe
not kink, maybe like like fetish. What's the kink that you haven't tried
that you want to try. That'sa good question, new host over here.

(38:24):
So I was not gonna la thatI want to try it's avod guy.
Maybe maybe like hands, but thiswould have to be off camera at
least a few times for me toknow. I'm super comfortable for sure,
But like I always try to kinkoff camera, probably like hands behind my
back tied or something like that,or or if I'm topping, like tied

(38:46):
like to the bed, post andthey just put like a bottom on you.
Yeah, yeah, that's hot.Actually yeah, it's like, remember
how about you. Did you enjoythe kink scenes that you filmed, the
submission one, no, the dombone. Yes see I think I think
that I told him that though Igo out like I after we did the
sub scene, I was like,I loved it, loved this journey,

(39:07):
but it wasn't for me. Butthen I did like I it's just it's
actually just got released with kine Fox. I was the dominant and I killed
that one like that one is hot. Like I've never watched a trailer and
I was like, that's good,but I enjoyed it so much more.
I'm gonna say, like the wholesub doom. Even when you bottom in
your scenes, you still take controlof that scene. Yea. I'm just

(39:30):
I have a dominant energy all around. I prefer to be dominant. It's
just it's my kink. It's hot, like if I'm if like if I'm
bottoming for you, like in mypersonal life, like I like I would
be like the type of person tohold your arms back like you're not gonna
control anything. See that's how Ineed a box of clinics real fast.
Please what kind of fetishes do youhave? It could be like it's like,

(39:58):
okay, so there's a different hookups. I'm pretty like, yeah,
let's get this go on. Let'slike nut and go on with our
day. But if I am intoyou, I am a nasty motherfucker.
What does it mean? Let metell you, Like if we're like together
and a thing, you could notreally say much that I'd be like I'm

(40:19):
not into it, like like imbut what are you for real? Like
but what are you ever? Like? If I'm into you everything besides like
never mind, but like that's kindof how I am though, like unless
you guys haven't named what like youtake ownership out like like my personal thing
that really turns me on is likea thick boy bottom, like that's my

(40:44):
ship. And then also when theyare very like like I'm a passionate dom
Do you know what I mean bythat? Like I'll be domb but it's
like a in a loving way.You know, when you did our interview
for a flesh Pot, you usethe word romance or romantic five times.
Oh yeah, I'm hep. That'shopeless romantic, not a hopeless You're seeing

(41:05):
somebody. It's hope, but hopeyou I want to gets home tonight.
He's like on the show and Idon't know what's going on. I get
back and he's like, so,what's that you said? That's even hot
though, because that's like a that'slike a script right there, and then
you flipped the script and let mesomebody camera. Honestly, everything's a scene
if you think hard enough, thatis true. Because I've seen a lot

(41:28):
of these studios that's a scene.It's like, yeah, I've certified mail
and it's at Yeah, I justdrove from Arizona today and it's a scene.
Actually I just got here from Phoenix. That's why I said. But
they don't know that. They weren'there for that. Okay, so we're
gonna do a little hot topic.There's been a trend in the adult industry.
In fact, at flash Pot wehad a little discussion about it,

(41:50):
and it's about by scenes, andit's about a lot of studios are now
doing by scenes. Years ago,Sylvia Sage did the first by scene for
men dot Com with a Rod.Remember a Rod release this by scene?
It got such backlash that they hadto take the scene out immediately they lost
a lot of membership. Whatever.Years later they did like a by spinoff.

(42:15):
But now studios are regularly doing byscene. So ready to open up
about this? Well, so that'swhy I brought it up, because you
identify as pan sexual and you havefilmed many different types of scenes trans by
and we've had this discussion with youand you're like, I'm gay and that's
what I like, you know,but for a scene I'm at work,

(42:37):
babe, I'll do whoever. Thisis the interesting dichotomy. You know,
people say that you are phobic againstwomen or whatever. My thing is like
you go to a restaurant, youorder a hamburger. If I don't want
onions on my hammurger, I don'twant onions on my hammurger. Doesn't make
me a I don't don't hate onions. So, but audiences are watching by

(43:00):
content. How do you feel aboutthis kind of move? Is our gay
audience is ready to get this typeof content watch by content? Well,
last time I checked, it wasLGBT, not lgt But there's a difference
when it's porn and you're jerking offto Yeah. Yeah, it's a more

(43:20):
process like anything, whether it's yourInstagram, Twitter or whatever. If you
don't want to watch it, thendon't watch it. But gay porn fans
latch on to their porn stars.What you guys know, because your fans
are like yeah, yeah, Andwhen you when you feel that you get
close to your porn star and thenyou see them film something, you're like,
oh, well, then they're justcheating me. Derek KG is going
through this because I don't think mymy, I mean, like everybody,

(43:45):
let's be realistic. Everybody that isdoing by porn is going through it.
Like the person that I'm actually talkingto is dealing with the same exact shit
I dealt with it. And it'sjust like at the end of the fucking
day, like it's just so onething I can not stand. And I
will say this right now, andI don't care if you don't like it,
Like there's nothing more that irks methan a gay that literally like disapproves

(44:10):
of someone that's bisexual or pansexual likethat is. I don't think they're disapproving
of your identity as that they are. I think they're like a brand that
they built that has never been disclosedabout me in the first place. Never
did I want to go back tomy Twitter from twenty but the fantasy of
you never have I ever even saidthat I was anything, Like, I've

(44:30):
never said I was a sexual gay, but not anything. So therefore they
created this narrative in their mind,they the studios of something. Yeah,
like they well everyone, like theycreate this narrative in their mind of someone
that you are. And then itjust got to a point to where like
I did release and I was like, hey, everybody, by the way,
I've never said that I was gay, but me being who I am

(44:52):
doesn't just like clude me from thecommunity, you know what I'm saying.
Did you get pushback when you firstlike did that? Yeah, Like I
had to be people being like wow, no longer a fan or wow,
another gay for pay? But thenI actually rewind it, and I said,
there are people that can really dothings within the work like that we
do discarding their sexuality. So therefore, like why is it always gay for

(45:15):
pay? Why if I wasn't pansexual and I was a gay mail,
why couldn't I be straightfor pay?I've been seeing this forever. I was
actually out of contact. Perfect.Yeah, they wanted they wanted to launch
like a whole a whole thing whereI was straight for pay and I was
the one doing straightfor pay, andI'm all for it, honestly. Like

(45:37):
I'm here at work, babe,as I do things that I'm not into.
I do things that I don't necessarilywould want to do off of camera
or out of my work, andthat's just how it is. This is
a job at the end of theday, and we gotta do what we
gotta do to put bread on thetable. I mean, like this is
a whole conversation it is. However, I do think it is a little

(45:58):
bit different for only fans. Ithink you need a little be a little
bit more true to yourself, ornot necessarily only fans, but fan sites
in general and social media. Youneed to be a little bit more true
to yourself. And I think itis a lot better off if you start
from the beginning showing your fans whatto expect later on, and then you
don't receive such backlash. However,it does things do change where for example,
right now, gay people or sorryby people who haven't done by content

(46:22):
because it hasn't been as trending,is now doing by content and they're getting
backlash. I mean, I don'tthink that's really okay. But at the
same time, gay guys who havea fantasy of other gay guys, I
understand. I understand their frustration.But at the same time, like you
said, they are building this narrativeor the studio is building this narrative for

(46:44):
them, and either way, it'snot coming from the source itself. It's
also like generational. We know alot of people that fantasize over porn and
follow you guys tend to be alittle bit older generational typically, yes,
and and I'm not making assumptions likedemographics. When I came out bisexual was
just like wink wink, it wasyour stepping stones code to be gay.

(47:07):
I was by ones right and straightones we change engaged to married, but
then like by was just like asafe place to be where it was the
stepping stone. And now we knowand our younger generation, like you guys
have this language and there are actualno, there are actual bisexuals like what
you know. I wish I couldlike, that's so funny that you actually

(47:28):
say that, because like I thoughtthat was me too, And then I'm
now twenty five and like, Nope, still feel the exact same way.
And like I tell people all thetime, like honestly, I wish I
was straight or just gay, Likeit literally would be so much easier because,
like I'll be honest with you,not only do I not get supported
from the straight community, I alsodon't really get supported from the gay community
as well from not And I'm notsaying law like don't think that, like

(47:52):
like we're besties, you know whatI'm saying, but like you get it,
Like it's definitely like especially within likegirls like the want to dame,
Like if I want to pursue them, they're so weird about it, like,
oh, he's secretly gay, andI'm like, I'm a twenty five
year old grown ass man. IfI wasn't into you, why would I
be pursuing you? You know whatI'm saying. There's also like we know,
like Reese ride Out, he's beenin the industry for so long doing

(48:15):
gay gay gay. There are womenhe's straight, he's straight. I've met
his wife. He celebrates his relationshipsand he knows exactly what he's doing.
There are women that won't film withhim because he's filmed with gay man.
That's interesting and it's so like whythat's interest, but it's so dumb.
See I understand it from a fanperspective, because the fan perspective is they

(48:38):
follow you, they watch you,they subscribe because they want to get off.
And at the end of the day, that's what they're looking for.
They're looking for you to to It'sthe fantasy of you exactly. They're looking
for you to fulfill their fantasy.And whenever you say, oh, well,
I'm by, that makes it morecompetition for them in their in their

(48:58):
head mentally, because in reality,if they were to pursue somebody who is
by then they're now competing in theirhead with men and women, which is
a bigger audience. And I thinkthat's where a lot of them are thinking
as far as fantasies go. Iget that, but I've dated gay men
and the danger is they're like times. I agree, at least if they

(49:19):
went to a woman, we couldall go shopping together. And I agree,
I agree, But I think theirconcern is that women have things that
they don't and they can't compete withthat. They can compete with other gays
maybe, but they can't compete withthat. Well, a man has some
real competition, like it actually hasnothing to do with Like, that's like,

(49:40):
especially bisexual is different. You're attractedto men and women because of the
genitals technically technically, but therefore pansexual, it's just like I don't really
give a fuck what you have,Like if you're cool and we vibe like,
I'll make it work, Like youknow what I'm saying. So therefore,
like I because like that's girls havesaid that, like or guys or
gay boys. They're like not onlynot like not only do I have to

(50:02):
worry about like other boys, butI have to worry about other boys and
girls. And I'm like, you'rejust insecure. I was just gonna say,
what we're really talking about your people'sinsecurity if I think about me,
if I fuck with you, Ican promise you I will swear on anything.
You don't have to fucking worry.You know why, because I love
I love my alone time. Sotherefore, like, if I'm choosing to

(50:23):
spend my time with you, like, don't worry about disloyal, don't even
have the any insecurities because I couldpromise you, like we're good when you're
so confident in yourself that you hangout with yourself and you're like I want
to date myself tonight. I don'tcare, like a big dick could come
here, nice ask come here.I was like, no, I just
want to watch TV, like watchJeopardy and order pand express for real.
Yeah, okay, Uh So wehave another question obviously important you curate personas

(50:47):
such as we think we know aboutJack Watters, we think we know about
that was rough? What how wouldyour best friend? How would your best
friend describe you? Like? Whoare you really? Who are you asking
first? Both? I mean,let's ask them. But at the same

(51:09):
time, I think my persona ispretty aligned with who I am as a
person. I just show different sidesof who I am on different platforms.
For example, on a Twitter Ishow a little bit more explicit side,
on only fans, I show alot more a bit explicit, And then
on Instagram, I show a littlebit more uh sexy, but still it's

(51:29):
kind of tea and then on thenon TikTok, it's more like the funny
side of me, the goofy thatI don't give a fuck with anybody thinks
I'm gonna do me and I'm gonnahave fun with it, and you either
like it or you don't. Andthat's just how it's gonna be, and
I think it it's a lot morecurated for the more explicit side and the

(51:49):
funny side. What do you likeon my space? My Space? What's
not kidding? I'm kidding? Iknow. Okay, So we're gonna talk
about you actually play the drums Ido, and you sing a little love
the drums on my own time?What band would you? And don't do
one of those? Now? Yeah? Because can you think I found for

(52:13):
us right now? No? Butlike what what band? Because I don't
even know what kind of music?I mean, I know drummers who do
are like musical theater drumming, Likewhat band would you cast yourself in?
A drum? I learned to playthe drums on yeah, like metallic Im
like I'm talking like scream Oh,like I'm talking like because you know why

(52:37):
I wanted to learn to do that. I don't like scream of music.
Particularly, It's one of the hardestgenres of music to learn their drums because
like, not only do we haveone bass puddal, we have two bass
pedals, so therefore, like ourleft is working basically double speed. So
therefore, like I knew once Ilearned how to play that genre everything,
Like you can play like a fuckingcold Play song, and I'll be like,

(53:00):
it's so easy, you know whatI'm saying. So like, once
you learn the hardest, everything elseis easy. But you're thinking about you
is like you constantly challenge yourself.Yeah, I get bored. Yeah that's
we should all challenge ourself. What'slike a hobby of talent that that we
don't know? That that you haveyour animals, which one. I do
a lot of things. So I'mactually working on a clothing line. I'm

(53:21):
really into fashion. I'm trying tolaunch a clothing line. I swear your
pink sweatshirt. I asked for ablack version. I have not gotten it.
I put in the order I did. I'm waiting for the manufacturer,
like we need more material literally,and I need more patients because I'm out
of it with these people. Seriously, I'm looking for a new one.
It's actually very very very cute.Yeah, but then I'm also so,

(53:43):
yeah, you saw this better.And then I'm also working on expanding my
music as well. Actually, soI used to be a super into music
and I love music. I've alwaysloved music. However, growing up in
Missouri. What kind of music.I would say it definitely lean towards the
more like pop and a little bitmore like hip hop and sometimes even a

(54:04):
little bit of rap, but mainlyfemale artists like Doja and Nikki. So
as basic as that sounds. Ifyou were to re record one of the
songs from the last year, whatsong would you think best? Would your
your talents? Don't say, Padamer, I'm flipping this table over. Best
display my talents? Well, that'snot going to be a pop song.
Best display my talents. That's ahard one. I can't think of who

(54:29):
has the most vocal range that hasperformed a song in the last You have
a big vocal range. I wouldn'tsay it's I'm not that confident in it,
but I would say I have afairly large vocal range. I would
sing in adel song? I would? I would. But yeah, So
I'm actually planning on potentially performing atthe europe Grabby's next year, So that

(54:51):
will be an exciting fast that willwin's that send me the email for there
gonna free drink tickets. Wow,it's free drink tickets. Sure you guys.
We have to wrap up soon,but we got so many emails.
So what's gonna rapid fire this?Let's go. We have like what Tony
like three three minutes? Okay,okay, okay again, is there a

(55:15):
type of scene that you haven't filmedyet that you really want to do?
No? I haven't done to buyone yet. But you said you weren't
into it. I'm not into it. By one to do it? Okay,
check everything, check every box.Do you have any regrets getting into
the bizz so early because both ofyou guys are so young. No,
I regret starting studio before. Onlyfans, our friends. Fans so interesting,

(55:37):
interesting, Your fans are very loyal. What do you think your fans
love most about you? My personalityand smile, my penis, Your ass
is as good as your penis.Though they'd be like in the dick more.
I mean, they're really into thedick right now. What has been
your biggest success in your career?Do you think probably my thick stick legs

(56:00):
and ass, my finances, creditscores? With your credit score, I
have a feeling you have a reallygood credit score. Is that true?
Maybe? Is it my shit?It's a big credit score. There's so
many Oh, Mama, mat shutup. Do you ever get tired of

(56:22):
sex in real life? Only ona daily basis? Like if I've had
multiple sex in that one day,then yeah, i get tired of it,
But like the next I'm ready togo again. Is they two white?
I'm a Latina, We're like asprinkle. Oh yeah, i've met
you all. I've been there.Yeah. Yeah. Does it affect your

(56:45):
your relationship when you're tired of sex? No, because if I'm into you,
like yeah, it's just it's justdifferent this job creates. I'm kind
of like you. I like toplease my partner. If I'm what you
find that person we can fuck allday. But like it's so cute.
I'm not trying to be even cheesy. It's just facts. Like it's like

(57:06):
there's a tottle different feeling you getfrom like having that person versus someone that
you're like cooking up with for work. Both of you guys are very good
at being verse? Tips for beinga great verse? How how could I
be a better verse? And I'mtalking about me because diet and get your
douchings rhythm down. Okay, that'sa weird question. How how are you

(57:34):
good verse? I just do,like I don't really think about it,
I'm just like, Okay, well, you guys are like the best verses
in the industry because you actually enjoybeing a verse. Well for me,
I mean, I'll I feel likeit's role if it doesn't look if you
don't have this type of energy toyou, you're not topping me. So

(57:54):
like it's like it's just like itwas like like like times there's sometimes in
scenes where like obviously you have toagree to be cast out what I'm talking
about like real life because honestly forboth, but like if you don't have
this like thing to you, evenlike during well it doesn't really happen in

(58:15):
my real life because I choose theperson so I know before it gets there.
Like there's sometimes we're all have sceneswhere I'll be cast out as a
bottom, and I'm like thinking tomyself as it's going on, like if
I was the top, this wouldbe so much better right now, Like
for real, it's just true,I see that I can really Yeah,
craziest fan experience or comment number one. Have either one of you guys fucked

(58:38):
a fan? No, No,that's what turn off for meal. I
don't like going there two into me. I like a little Chase if you
like a little bit, even ifyou know me, just act like you
don't literally actually, but no,I did have a weird feel, I
mean, big feard. I'm notgonna be like that's exactly how they sound.

(59:00):
And I've never seen a fan thatI thought like in person that was
super super hot. And now fansout there there they exist, but I've
not met one in person because you'realways traveling, because you have like fourteen
animals they have to get through.It's like Indiana Jones had to get through
these snakes and like this turn.I know. That's how I know they're

(59:21):
a true fan. They're dedicated.Oh my god, okay, this is
the last one we have to do. Oh no, No, that was
the question. Craziest fan experience,somebody that's come up to you and said
the weirdest thing, or they've hadthe weirdest request. I got stuck in
in uber that was a fan witha fan and they knew who I was.

(59:42):
No, it was the driver.It was so awkward. I left
such a bad review. Did youget a free ride? They know?
Actually no, and I did tellthem what happened. So at that time
I was still at the beginning ofmy career, so I didn't expect it.
This was the first experience I everhad. It was my I'm the
driver in Palm Springs, of course, and oh my god, my uber

(01:00:04):
is from Palm Springs. So hehe called me out. He was like,
oh my gosh, are you JackWaters And I was like, I
mean, yeah, I am.But my legal name was on the uber
because they checked your ideas now traffickingand so I I obviously have a stage
name. So I emailed them aboutit and had them changed my name,
and they were very compliant with that. They were They did not give me

(01:00:28):
a refund, unfortunately. But theguy he asked me, like my dick
side, like how many inches?I think it is? No, Like
I was stuck in the back ofthis uber. I literally changed the destination
of where I was going because Ididn't know want him to know I was
staying at that I went to Rossand spent money I did not know,
but it was a ross, youknow. Anyway, I got to be

(01:00:51):
my grandma. So I paid anuber from Palm Springs to LA and the
guy was like, oh, I'mgame, remember, So we had Shenanigans
and then I thought well, hewas going to charge me right, full
charge. That was the only thingthat happened. He tried. He charged
you after our Shenanigans. I'm like, hello, Jeez, which still has

(01:01:13):
to pay her bills? I paidhim full Crazys fan experience or question like
open? Can we be open?It's Cyrus Live. We have to wrap
it up though, So honestly,one of the weirdest messages I ever got,
and it's like implanted in my brain. It from me after I say
it. I really hope not.Anyways, there was some obviously blank account,

(01:01:38):
but he goes, I want tofuck you before, during, and
after doing Heroin. So you werein Pump Springs too, I mean that's
the reality. Okay, welcome toPalm Springs. That's it? Yeah?
Yeah, like literally anyway, youguys, it's been so so much fun

(01:02:01):
getting to know you on a ona whole different level. Ho is it
all? Jack? Where can peoplefind and follow you? Jackwaters End?
The score x X everywhere? InstagramTHEO dot Brady with three wise and then
Twitter is just THEO underscore Brady.What a fun show? Did you guys

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have fun? Yeah? It istea Time, Tea Time. We're gonna
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