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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What this is?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is what this is?
Speaker 3 (00:03):
This is Tucker with Candice Owens where they talk about
Tucker finding out that his father was part.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Of the CIA.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Okay, go for it.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Play this clip the who he is? Oh sorry, I
have it on double. That's my boy, Rob.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
That's how we roll and do that.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
But Rob audience.
Speaker 5 (00:18):
The only reason I know who he is is because
someone sent me a video a few years ago of
him attacking me and I was like, so, I'm looking
at this and I'm like, well, first of all, this
kid's really talented, like legit, and I can assess that
just having done the job for so long. So it's like, wow,
lots of talent, native talent. And he's attacking my dad
as a CIA. Is dad a CIA or whatever? And
(00:40):
I'm like, well, that's no untrue. Then my father dies
and I learn actually, yeah, you know it was involved
in that world. I was completely shocked by it. So
no one has to believe me, but that's just a fact.
This was in March of this year, and I'm like, well,
why would how the hell with this child from Chicago.
(01:03):
My dad was eighty four when he passed, Like, who's
this guy know? My dad is and like he's an
intelligence Well, how would he know that?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Wait, so that was his critique of you because I
didn't see it.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Yeah, someone just sent me this video and was like,
you can't believe anything. Carlson says because his father was
in the CIA and he's a CIA working bout the CI. Well,
I mean, I think it's pretty obvious, and I'm pretty
I'm actually feel emotional in my anger towards CIA, and
I think of that that comes out on the air
quite regularly, and so the idea that I'm working for
(01:32):
the CIA is like drained.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well, if it helps, he said, I was, I'm funded
by Russia. Now since the interview, he then did a
thing and said, I was funny, but you would.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Be a lot more likely to take Russian money than
I would be to work for the CIA. You would
never take Russian money and you're not rushing.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Did he just say what I think?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Back?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
I mean, you would never take Russia, but a lot
more likely to take Russian money than I would be CIA.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You would never take.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Rush of money.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
But you're saying you over me.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
But I mean I really hate the CIA. I mean
I would never. I mean, that's like very offensive to me,
So why would you like personal for you?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well a little bit, yeah, And anyway, like who is
this kid exactly?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
And maybe it's just an accident that the guy goes
after exclusively goes after people who are in the scene.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Okay, you can posit at that point. So this is
what this is the and what is this rop?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So this is Tucker Carlson, even though the whole basis
of this conversation is that Nick Fuentes was criticizing Tucker
Carlson for his father's ties to the CIA, and that clip,
Tucker Carlson says he found out that his father was
in the CIA when his father died in March of
this year. But here's a clip from The Sean Ryan
Show in twenty twenty four where Tucker talks about his
father being part of the CIA. So there's no way
(02:50):
that he found out in June of twenty twenty four.
It made those comments in June of twenty twenty four,
but then just found out in March.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Let me see this.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
And so when I applied to CIA, and I've taken
a lot of crap, including from Putin like oh, you're
from a CIA family, Well, yeah, obviously my father worked
in conjunction with CIA.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I mean, that's what that is. Wow.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
And I tried to join the CIA, but I'm not
being false about it. Native Talent.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And then here's a clip of Nick fuent Is talking
about Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
After that clip went public.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
I'm being accused of being the CIA by Peter Thiel's
best boys, by Tucker Carlson with his daddy, Tucker Carlson's
And you know what, here's the other thing. Tucker Carlson said,
I'm a weird gay kid in the basement.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, and I'm from Chicago.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
You're right, well, okay, right, but I wasn't born with
a silver spoon in my mouth. Tucker Carlson says, I
have so many trust funds I never have to work.
Tucker went to a forty five thousand dollars per year
private high school, then a forty five thousand dollars per
year selective Ivy.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
League school in New England.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Tucker Carlson's daddy was a Reagan appointee. And then after
years of bragging about being an elite, bragging about being
so out of touch and so rich, now he's going
to be the spokesperson for all the white people. Now
he's going to roll up his sleeves. I just like
to hunt fish in my log cabin. I care about
(04:22):
Klarna in credit card deck. But then when it comes
to me, I'm one of the real disaffected white people.
You want to talk about me and them, I am them,
he says, Nick Fuents is leading all of the disaffected
young white men. I am a disaffected white, young white man.
I was a precocious, intelligent, young white college student who
(04:45):
went to Boston University, who was pro Trump and red
pilled by Trump and animated by Trump's message of America First.
And I asked questions about Israel, and I.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Was punished for it.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
I did it years before Tucker Carlson started talking about
Israel last year, and I sacrificed, and I was targeted
by the ad L, by the SPLC, by the federal government,
by the conservative movement that both Candace and Tucker were
a part of. Candice and Tucker had nothing to say
about Israel until it became unavoidable last year.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Not popular, but unavoidable.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
And now they want a gate keep me out and
do this personality attack and say I'm a bitter loser
in my basement okay from cog.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So what do you know about this? And then, by
the way, is this in conjunction with the Tucker with
the Laura Lumer stuff that you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I did not see the Laura Lumer stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Hang on one second, cause Laura lum repet was kind
of going after what was who sent that thing? In
the in the group text with Laura Lumer and Tucker
Carlson Hambardo, I think, okay, yeah, so what what what
do you see wrong with this here? So okay, So
for me, is it tough for Tucker Carlson to not
want to say that his dad was a CIA? Yeah?
(06:01):
If if if my dad was CIA, would I publicly
want to tell people that is CIA? I don't know,
you'd your loyalty would probably be to not want to
tell people your dad's CIA. If your dad wasn't CIA,
you choose to become a ciach And it's the ultimate
level of respect for your father. That doesn't mean the
position that him now saying that I never knew I
(06:23):
wasn't till my father passed away, and he said that
to Sean Ryan last year. Okay, fine for that happened,
and I get that part, But what else is the Okay, Benny,
how are you processing this year? When you're hearing Tucker
and Nick fontest.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
I mean, listen say people just say whatever they want.
He's openly racist. He does whatever you have to give
credit where credit due. Nick Fuontes is really good at
what he does. He's very very good at articulating. He
brings receipts. Yeah, he says he has said some outland
and stuff. He said, like, remember when you said that
he says the N word, and he even said doing
that show, he was like Patrick, but Dave and said
(07:00):
he won't let me have it on and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
In regard to he's so capable. If he drops those words,
get a bigger white rod, which I think, to be
honest with you, I think he's slowly. I haven't heard
it out of him. And by the way, and he
said it respectfully to you.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
When it comes to all these other people, he has
all these opinions, and it's it's a war when it
comes to you and your name and what you're doing.
And he knows, he knows his podcast. It's a lot
of respect and he gives respect where respect to do.
In regard to Tucker, I mean, you have the receipts
right there. Rob just showed us that with canvas. He
said he had no idea, zero idea that his dad
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was a part of the CIA or involved with the CIA.
And then Rob gets a clip from was It June
twenty twenty four where he says he knows his dad
was a part of the CIA. So from what I
just saw, he got caught lying. He's blatantly lying about it.
And it's like, listen, say what you want, hot and
I think you made this point yesterday.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You don't know about who was.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
This kid, this young kid from Chicago and all this stuff.
He's done his research. Tucker knows exactly who he is.
He knows exactly who this kid from Chicago is, and
he does, like I said, he's made a point Tucker
and candas Candace a little bit later than him. But
Nick has been having this stance on all His positions
(08:16):
haven't changed, like haven't changed his Trump position has changed
because Trump has changed some of his promises and Nick's eyes,
but he has been this guy from the.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Beginning, from a very young age.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
He hasn't budged. And you know the proof is in
the pudding. We just saw what Tucker did and he's
actually and he's right, He's.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Right, tom.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
So I am trying to get my head around all
all of this. It's pretty inescapable where you have one
video a year before his father dies, he's talking about
CIA and then he's talking to Candas saying I didn't
know until after you know, both of those videos are validated,
So that's like, okay, when did you know?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You know, you're you're kind of caught here.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
And then I seen Nick Frents, who I think is
one of the most gifted debaters. Never mind his tone
of voice. I don't mind his tone of voice. He's
just he's passionate, just like I don't mind you angry
patriot tone of voice. And I see him gifted debater,
driving it and everything, and there's really, you know, a
collision coming here. And so my question really is, you know,
(09:23):
we tuck her with respect. We've met him and everything.
I got respect for the man. You know, I watched
him for a long time before I ever met him live.
It's like there's some reality here that you know, just
trying to get my head around. And but with Nick,
you know, I see that. And then Laura Lumer you know,
we know Laura. You know, I have a positive, you know,
impression of her from what I've seen when she's been here,
(09:46):
and she seems to come up with with receipts and
a lot of people say, oh, she's bombastic, she's just
throwing fireballs.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
She seems to show up with receipts from time to
time set which I think is you know they you know,
not to channel al Gore, but some of those receipts
Laura Lumers throwing are like inconvenient truths that people don't
want to deal with. And I this this whole thing
is it's like a pot at chili. I'm waiting to
(10:15):
see what flavor exactly comes out of this, but it's
a lot of stuff they are troubling, like four receipts.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
So regarding Tucker and Nick Fuentes and Candace and that crew,
you talked about a collision course, there will be a
collision course. Because I called this yesterday, I think this
is duck take diplomacy. These people are not all on
the same page. And once you start pulling this thread,
this whole thing is going to fall apart. And the
one common theme with all these people is that they
(10:46):
just hate Israel. That's it. So whire's Jank Wieger, who's
a progressive atheist, and Candace Owens, who's a Catholic Christian nationalist,
and Nick fuent As, who's a Catholic Theocratic quote unquote racist,
anti Samite, Tucker who's just asking questions, Dan Bilzarian, who's
(11:11):
this hedonist who enjoys harems. What do they have in common?
Not a lot. It's just the fact that they've bonded
together over their dislike or hate of Israel. So the
biggest thing here with Tucker is that he weaponizes asking questions.
I'm just asking questions. I don't know. Isn't Nyahu Hitler
(11:31):
just me asking questions? I don't know with my dad,
who's the CIA?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know exactly what you're doing, Tucker, when you ask
these questions and you weaponize your opinion and you put
it together in a nice little bow tie like you
used to wear for the general public to basically absorb
and be like, maybe this journalist is just asking questions. No,
you're presenting your opinion in the form of a question.
(11:58):
I think this whole crew. Nick Fuentes Tucker. You're already
seeing the rumblings. They're going to fight and it's going
to get ugly. Nick Flentes does not like Candace because
she's black. Candace does not like Tucker because he's establishment.
All these people don't like that. I don't think so well.
Candace says nothing but good things about Tucker. It'll fall apart. No,
(12:23):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I don't. I think the part about Flentes, I don't know. Again,
Like I said, I don't know a lot about him.
All I know is when I hear him say his messaging,
he's consistent with what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I have never watched. None of these people are idiots.
They're all smoke. But when you're bonded by hate, it's
going to fall apart and it's gonna get Can I
say one thing, Pat, Adam, do you think, and I'm
being I'm being genuine, do you think it's hate?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I think there's different levels.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Like Dan Bilzarian is in full hate anger Jewish people
like he's there when it comes to Tucker, and I
think Adam, it comes to like being like be having
accountability and saying like hey listen. October seventh, All that Okay, whatever,
you can talk about all that stuff, but it's what's happening,
like what look, what's happening right now? And if they're
(13:09):
bringing it up and we can't at least acknowledge some
of the problems and you you.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Say, Adam, I don't.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
I don't expect all of them to be one hundred
percent on the same page, Adam. Everybody's gonna have different opinions.
They're completely different people, completely different. But to say that
they just hate Israel, I think that that's a that's
a pretty out there statement. Just say, hey, if they
have some distaste and that can we can.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Put together a highlight reel of the the blood libel
that they've said. So, Tucker Carlson, let's stay there for
a second. Is his father part of the CIA? And
did he know it or not? And when did he
know it? Based on this, it looks like he's lying
to Candice Owen's face, yes or no?
Speaker 7 (13:48):
I think so okay, from what we just saw from
what from like, how about this?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Not like he worked for them or.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Around Carlson, Really, you're telling me this guy was in
CIA just looks like one number. I could show you
tapes so many of them, Candace Owens praising Israel, praising
what bb Netanyahu has done, praising the Jewish people, saying
that we have to stop this Muslim aggression. Not twenty
(14:14):
years ago, not ten years ago, five years ago, four
years ago, three years ago, ten years ago. Anything happened,
Something happened. I don't know. I don't know what happened.
But if I could roll the tape, so you know
why I respect Nick Fuentes. I don't see one video
of him praising Israel, the Jews. Everything's not liking them
and aiding them. Stick to your position. Why has Candace
(14:36):
Owens flipped so dramatically? By the way, same thing with Tucker.
Why is he flipped? What has happened? Well, you heard
what's happened.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
But here's my question too, what do you honestly think
it is?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
What do you think?
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Because of Canvas is smart as hell, Tucker? These people
are what happened.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
If I could give you a quick if I can
give you a quick summary, and I'll be super quick.
Tucker is the biggest out there because he's the elitist
masquerading as a populist. Don't believe me, roll the table
that Nick Flint says. He says, he's this elitist who's
basically all like about hunting and whiskey. Dude, you're the
(15:14):
only person in the history of the world that's had
their own show on CNN, MSNBC and Fox. Stop pretending
you're not establishment. You've helped build the establishment. Doucer Carlson Candace.
I don't know what happened with Candace. She worked for
Prager University, and she worked for Charlie Kirk with Turning Point,
(15:34):
and all of a sudden she's the biggest anti Israel
person out there. I don't know what happened. If I
would speculate, it's probably something to do with her husband,
who's Catholic, and there's a form of Catholicism that absolutely
hates Israel and the Jews. Don't believe me. Ask her husband.
I think his name is George, his father. Their relationship
right there. Nick flentes as disgusting as some of his
(15:56):
takes are, He's being real and some people appreciate being
real over being fake, like.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Talking but okay, But but at Kansas's point, do you
not think maybe with canvas Besides that, that's your take
about the father and theo.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
At the No.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
No, what I'm saying with George, I'm not bringing opinions.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
What I'm saying is, do you think like the actions
of the government of Israel not Jewish people around the world,
the actions of the government led by Bibi Nanyao isn't
could be a main thing that's making Kandace go wait
a minute and shift gears.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
And change your tune, because that's what Adam.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
I feel like a lot of people's attitudes have changed
because of that, the response of October seventh, And that's
what it is.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
It's like, listen, I get Adam, you attack.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Us, We're attacking you back in America.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Then I get it. But do it strategically if that's
the case.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, all I want her to do is criticize America
until the end of time because America has done way
worse in Afghanistan and Iraq. I don't think she has
multiple countries around the world. You don't think she has
not like this.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I guess what she's he he's me you pardon me.
I left the military.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
One of the main reasons talking about you about her,
She's criticizing one of the most disgusting things.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And actually, what's crazy is every time I've hung out
with Candace. I've enjoyed my time with Candace. She's cool,
she's fun. And I said this the other day. She's
been infected by some sort of bug. That's what it is.
I don't know what it is. I'm not speculating. I
like Candace, I like Dave Smith, I like jenk We
get along. That's what we do here. But I can
(17:30):
absolutely disagree with some of the disgusting takes that they have.
They might disagree with me, that's totally okay. But you
asked a question about her the father. Yeah, okay, Well you.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Could find the tweets you know what I'm saying what
you said about, like what what made her switch from
praising Israel to now? I don't think it was the father.
I think it was actions from the Israeli government. That's
not again that's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
How about you think is what the Ben Shapiro comments
and what happened on Daily Wire? You think that's I
think that's what percentage of what you think is that
what started it?
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Well, here's what what what was the Ben think? I
remember Ben Shapiro was him standing on the.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He made a comment, and what was and was it
because I don't even know what he said. I do
know he says, I don't agree with what Candace said.
She and then she from there put crisis King and
then you know the following not King, I think.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
But what made Ben say something is because she was
saying what about what Israel was doing? I don't I
don't remember exactly what it was. I remember him standing
on the table at the vent and saying.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
How many kids does Kandace have? Now? Four kids?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Four?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Okay, so and I would now talk about her kids whatsoever.
But uh, I've heard Candace Owens say uh on her show. Listen.
Sometimes I'm pregnant, I get emotional, I get angry. If
you've been pregnant, walking around pregnant every single year for
the last five years, you're gonna have a lot of
emotions and a lot of anger going on in your mind.
(18:58):
And I think there's a lot of things she says,
almost like I'm just asking questions. Well, she will weaponize
an opinion in the form of a question. We've seen
this clip with Ben. I think it was a bad
look for Ben to call out Candice before while she
was still on the Daily Wire.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
That was not a good life. Question is what did
she want to play? What did she say?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
She was very.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Her behavior. This is industry that he was a disgraceful Yeah,
that to me is a private conversation they should have had.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, Yeah, you know, listen a lot of times when
things like this has happened. This, this could have been
prevented very early on by Daily Wire. It could have
been prevented by Daily Wire. We're not going to rehab that.
I don't want to bring that up. We've already had that.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I'll make one comment about Ben probably one of the
smartest people on the planet. Not a leader, not a leader,
He's a solo guy. I don't see people say, all right,
Ben's going to lead the meeting, let's all get galvanized.
Pat's a leader. I mean we're here in Vegas. There's
gonna be ten thousand people in an auditorium at a company
(20:05):
he built. Ben is a smart, sharp, capable solo act.
Nobody's better at debating college kids going into a crowded
room and are being on a on a show and
holding his own Nobody's better. There's a big difference. Charlie
Kirk's amazing as well. There's a big difference between having
an opinion and being smart, and being a lawyer and
(20:25):
being a scholar then running a company. And he should
have done a better job with managing King. We'll see
now he's reaching what's happened.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
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Hell no, I'm looking at Jove or he love or hey,
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