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We’re diving even deeper in Part 2 with Billy Carson, best-selling author, entrepreneur, and founder of 4BiddenKnowledge. In this powerful follow-up, Billy and Brandi Harvey explore how spiritual mastery, ancient wisdom, and mindset alignment can unlock your highest potential.

From breaking generational cycles to building legacy wealth with consciousness, this episode is a roadmap for anyone ready to operate on a higher frequency.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Many people believe that I don't believe in God because
I don't believe in Christianity. I believe that there's a God.
And the reason why I believe there's a God is
because the evidence that there's a God is all around
us and inside of us. If you take the religious
aspect out of it and go purely only on spirituality,
you discover that it's all about learning how to seek delight,
become delight, how to love people, how to collectively come
together and make the world a better place. I believe

(00:22):
that the ultimate mission here is to create heaven on earth.
Can we achieve that? Can you come to the realization
that you're already in heaven. It's me that's gonna save me.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Do you use affirmations all the time? And you said,
if you do these affirmations for twenty one days, your
life is going to change.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh, you can read write your DNA. And this is
not me saying that this is actual scientists. Science and
spirituality are been taught to be separate. They actually go together.
I made a song called Affirmations. That's my number one song.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Not sure what artists believe.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I make more. One of the most rappers I don't
have never had to go to a club and pop bottle.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, I wish you to delve into how we really
can crack the cold and manifest and see increase reality.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Came up with a formula. If you apply that formula,
you're gonna get an end result.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
The current Pope has passed away. We want to get
your take. We gotta just go ahead and address the
elephant in the room is debate with Wes Huff.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, let me put on record.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Welcome to Vought Empower's Talk. So we don't just scratch
the surface.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
We dive deep into the lives of some of the
world's most influential change makers.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'm your host, Brandy Harvey. Y'all, he is back.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
The Man, the Myth, the Legend, our highest rated show
thus far. The Man is back to grace us with
his presence. Billy Carson is the founder and CEO of
Forbidden Knowledge Incorporated, the four time best selling author of
the Compendium of the Emerald Tablets What Doesn't Mean Broke
the Epic of Humanity and fractal holographic Universe. Mister Carson

(01:53):
is also the founder and CEO of Forbidden Knowledge TV,
a conscious streaming TV Network, the host of the Bit
of Knowledge podcast and the co host a biohacker Best
Life podcast, Billy Carson believes you are more powerful than
you even know, and they feared the day you discovered
Vaughten Power's talks. Welcome back by the researcher, thought leader,

(02:14):
and global teacher Billy Carson to the show.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Thank you. I'm glad to be back.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I mean, Billy, listen, if we had highest ratings, baby,
you got it. Okay, the ratings are in. You are
the man. I think people are so intrigued by you.
They're so intrigued by these types of conversations, and we
had to have you back.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Thank you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, we had to.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Before we even dive into all the consciousness, all the manifesting,
all the creating your own reality, we gotta just go
ahead and address the elephant in the room. You and
I have talked about it for quite some time off camera,
and I told you that when this epic, when we
dropped our first there were so many comments that came

(03:03):
in about this debate with Wes Houff. Yeah, so we
just gonna go ahead and get it out the way
right now.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
You had a.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Debate with Wes Huff. Yeah, and it created quite the stir,
quite the controversy. But you learned a lot from that
moment in time, I want you to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh yeah, definitely learned a lot from that situation. First
of all, the thing that I did learn was when
you're not feeling your best, don't get involved in things,
specifically dealing with business. I learned to watch who was
in your inner circle because I was actually betrayed by
somebody that I actually thought was a close friend, turned
out to be the person was plotting against me the
whole time to put me in a very uncomfortable situation,

(03:46):
and he chose one of my weakest hours to do it,
just trying to recover from pneumonia, just being fresh out
of the hospital. So I learned that, you know, people
can be so close to you and you just have
to be able to discern better who is in your
inner circle. That's one thing I definitely learned from that.
And then I also learned I came to the realization,

(04:09):
believe it or not, people probably won't believe this, that
I am a public figure.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
You did not know this beforehand.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I'm now over eight million, ten million followers, across all platforms.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I knew I was popular. I knew I was popular.
I knew people everywhere I go, people recognize me everywhere,
But it didn't really settle in until this happened when
it went mainstream. Then I was like, oh, this went mainstream,
Like I really am a public figure. I'm not just
in the conscious community famous. Yeah, I'm global famous. I'm
mainstream famous. And one person was allowed, or I allowed

(04:45):
one person to capitalize off of my name to try
to catapult themselves off of clout chasing to a certain
level of flame, which they did, but they crashed already.
But I did learn like, wow, so when you're in
that level of exposure, you also did also have to
watch what you do, what you say, where you go,
how you respond to things. I learned about responding. My

(05:07):
initial response wasn't that good. My initial response was very
pompous and a little aggressive, verbally aggressive, and so my
initial response to the whole situation, which I ended up deleting,
it just wasn't It wasn't a good response. But I
did learn a lot then. I also learned about being
prepared because what I learned from school when I was

(05:28):
on a debate team. This is why I said that
this wasn't really a debate. I was never told that
this was a debate. I was told that I was
gonna come. I have the messages. It said, you're gonna
come hang out and we're going to talk about the
difference difference between spirituality and religion.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Because this the host of the show that you all
went on, both you and West. This was a friend
of yours. You all lived in the same neighborhood, your
kids played together, your wife's.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Hung out, all of that.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, they did. It was you know, I mean, this
guy I thought was a close guy, but come to
find out he had been plotting on doing this for
quite some time. But now, as I replayed in my
mind several messages he sent me about wanting to talk
about some of the stuff he saw on some of
my clips, just him himself, supposedly, it all came rushing
back and I realized that he was really against everything

(06:18):
that I believed in, and that he was you know,
he was into this apologetic Christian stuff, which is okay.
I mean, listen, his wife is a Muslim. I love everybody, right,
He said that during the demon I love everybody.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Life is a Muslim.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, but I just little more things that he added on,
like that I came to his house and banged on
his door and scared his daughters.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Two thirty in the morning.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I rang his doorbell, and I have the recording of
me ringing his doorbell, not only on my phone, and
where I stayed, the time, the place, the location I'm at.
He released a ring doorbell video which shows me ringing
the doorbell with a piece of paper in my hand
that had a type note which was which was a
note saying I don't consent to using any of the footage.

(06:58):
And then my car also records everything, like like it's
not a Tesla, but it records like a testa some
Mercedes s Class. It records everything. So because the car
was there, it recording me standing there ringing the doorbell,
which I have a copy of that video as well.
So nobody banged on the door like a crazy mad man.
I didn't go driving through sleet and snow through the
night to get to his house. I literally went around

(07:21):
the corner. Yes we're neighbors, as as a one point
five minute walk to his house. I drove because I
was enough sick with pneumonia and I didn't, you know,
I didn't have enough energy, so I drove around the
corner instead of instead of walking. But it was just
to say, and there was never a lawsuit. It was
a cease and desist. Nobody ever tried to sue anybody.
It was a cease and desist that said, I do

(07:42):
not consent to use my image of my likeness. I
didn't think it was professional the way it was done
and the way that it was contrived and set up
in the ambush, and the word seller that was used.
When I did debating in school, you learned the first
thing you learned in debating is number one, you prepare
for a debate. Now, this guy had prepared for me
for over a year, because I went to his accountant

(08:03):
sold all these videos, probably damn near one hundred videos
about me.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Were you aware of who he was?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
No clue and what his stance was prior to getting
on them.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Never seen this guy, never heard of him, did had
no clue who this guy was. If I did, and
when I saw his face pop up on this virtual screen,
I would have just walked out because I would have
realized right away this was some bull crap. But I
didn't know who he was. And so what you learned
what a debate and the first thing you learned in
debate class is that debating is not about who's who's
telling the truth, or who's right or wrong. That's irrelevant

(08:34):
in a debate. It means nothing. Debates are not about
who's right and wrong. This is where people's misconception about
what debating is all about. Debating is all about who
can win an argument. Okay, and so in that particular case,
he actually won the or he appeared that won the argument.
He won the argument because he stood his ground in
a way that made it seem like I was uncertain

(08:55):
of myself. And I did become uncertain of myself actually,
but then later on to find out that everything that
I say was actually one accurate uh, and this was
verified through actual academics that really got pissed off at
what he had been doing and saying he was a PhD.
He's not a PhD. He even told Joe Rogan he
was a PhD. He's not a PhD. Uh. He's studying

(09:15):
to try to get a PhD. But he's got many
years to go. Who says, who's to say he'll never
even get it?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, there were a few moments in watching this and
we're not going to delve into this the entire interview,
so we know this, but there were a few moments
in the you know, in the debate where some of
the texts that you may mention of were discredited as
though those were forged texts.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Known forge texts. Yeah, so let's talk about that.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, they came with their pre set up questions, which
should have gave me the red flag. Get this was
already pre planned, and they wanted to pick apart things
that I had said about the Sinai Bible, the quod Exanatoicus,
and where there's no apparent crucifixion. Now, it doesn't mean

(10:01):
that I don't believe that Jesus was cruci was or
wasn't crucified. You see how things before I get into
it deeper, how things can be taken out of context.
There's no context into my understanding of my personal belief
about Jesus being crucified or not. In a podcast prior,
I had mentioned they were asking me about these things,
and I had mentioned that there's different possibilities that may

(10:23):
even exist. I mean like the si Any Bible, for example,
in the Kodas Synoticus. It's quite possible that Jesus was
never crucified, because this text is fourteen four hundred mistranslations
or different versions of the translation between that and the Bible,
the King James Bible. And then on top of that,
there appears to be no crucifixion. And so he tried

(10:44):
to trip me up on that, and he said he
had a book on his shelf that's got it right
in there, but he never turned to pull the book
out and opened it. Meanwhile, I find out that particular
version of the story doesn't have the crucifixion in it.
And according to real academics, a a doctor and also
a PhD. A real academics who teach this stuff. They

(11:05):
contacted me and they actually made their own video showing
the record that he was saying had the crucifixion. And
they contacted him and said, hey, there's no crucifixion. Now,
why did you make that up? And he told them, well,
there's another text that's around the same period that has
a verse around the same size at the empty space
that would fit into the code Exnotochus. Well, how come
you didn't say that in the debate. Then you see

(11:26):
so again I was right. And then also when he
tripped me up with that, I said, well, maybe I
was talking about the Gospel of the Maybe I was
talking about Barnabas, right, Gospel of Barnabas. And then that's
when he tried to say, well, that was a forgery
because they found that there was a mistake in one
letter or something that you could see there was copied back. Well,
but yeah, it was a copy back according to the
PhDs and the doctors and an archdeacon from the church.

(11:51):
They said that, yeah, but it's copied from an actual,
actual documented record. He never brought that up in the debate.
He didn't say to you, well, yeah, that might be
a copy, but it's a copy from something that actually
was original. Yeah, he just led everyone to believe that
there was a copy that didn't forge the just fabrication,
but it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
So then what would you say to Because this came
up in the engagement with our audience when you came
on the platform the first time, who questioned your belief
in Jesus. Many people believe that you have really tried
to denounce Christianity. You don't, you know, you really don't
say much about other faiths. But there is like this

(12:34):
belief that you kind of gun after Christianity and Christian
teachings and Christian principles and the teachings of Christ. What
do you say to those people, Well.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't challenge the teachings of Christ. I actually agree
with the teachings of Christ. And I've done full podcast.
Int of fact, I just did a new episode again
called Bible Study with Paul Anthony Wallace, thirty three year
former archdeacon in the church who's my co host, talk
about in that our personal beliefs about Jesus. And so
that's where there's also another misconception. Just because I'm making

(13:10):
statements or bringing forth evidence that I believe is evidence
that says that this version of Christianity has a lot
of loopholes in it. It doesn't mean that I don't
believe in God. It doesn't mean that I don't believe
that Jesus was real and existed and did miraculous things.
It doesn't mean a lot of those things. I think
a lot of things get taken out of context because
people only see the clips that go viral, and the

(13:30):
clip is out of context as a clip is a
minute or less out of a full understanding, we know. Yeah,
and then people actually will comment on those clips as
if that was the lesson, the full lesson. I'm like,
you got to go watch the whole video.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
You can't believe everybody becomes a THEOLOGI yes, every these conversations,
everybody becomes a therapist, a theolosion. Everybody is a mathematician.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
You know. Let me put on record, and I have
a video that put that I penned on my ex
page maybe two years ago. It says the first thing
I want to tell you guys is many people believe
that I don't believe in God because I don't believe
in Christianity, and that's far from the truth. I believe
that there's a God. And the reason why I believe
there's a God is because the evidence that there's a

(14:16):
God is all around us and inside of us. We
know that, through several scientific things that have been discovered
and peer reviewed, that there's a fingerprint here in this universe.
The first thing is we know that the Mandelbrot set,
discovered by Benoit Mandelbrot, is a fractal mathematical formula which
is only about this long, and this formula exists through
all known living things throughout the known universe. And I

(14:40):
say not only living but even things like rocks, galaxies, hurricanes.
This fractal code exists throughout everything. And this fractal code
is so strong and so powerful. Pixar Studios took this
fractal code called the Benoit Mandelbrot and they put it
the Manol Brough set and they put it into their
animation soft This is how Pixar became famous. They said,

(15:03):
we don't have to create every scene manually. This fractal
code can actually create everything on the fly, including the animation.
This is straight from God. And they imported that into
their animation software and that made Pixar an instant hit,
the number one animation studio in the world overnight because
they implemented a code that, in my opinion, is literally

(15:24):
from God itself, directly from the universe. And then we
found that through Professor James Gates Junior, who's a former
scientific advisor to President Obama when he was in office.
He's a professor at the University of Maryland who I
interviewed him on my own podcast. He's one of the
top minds in the world in theoretical physics and supersymmetry.

(15:45):
He took a team of super mathematicians and got together
to find out is what is this ether? What is
this universe really made up at its deepest core level. Well,
they discovered something called Adinkra codes, just like the adders
seem symbols, yeah, Mali, Africa, the Dogon tribe. When you
take those patterns and you turn them from flat two

(16:07):
dimensional patterns, which is used for decoration and blankets and
so forth. Now, but you turn them into three dimensional structures,
they have codes hidden in them and inside the inside
these structures, these codes are called Adinkra codes. And these
codes are not your average code. There are mathematical codes
called error correcting codes. Now, these error correcting codes are

(16:28):
the same, exact, precisely the same exact error correcting codes
that we use for search engines and web browsers.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Wow. Yeah, search engines and web browsers.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Run on that same code that's running all of this.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
So we see the Mandel brought set. We have the
Dincra codes, and then now we look into us look
into geometry, those get into the Fibonacci sequence, right, which
we can find in everything throughout nature. It's even the
dimensions of the Fibonacci and the golden rectangle and the
golden true within the human body and shape and form.

(17:02):
So all these this is all circumstantial evidence that's leading
to a fingerprint. So if you were you know, if
you were a CSI agent, right, and you're looking for
the crime of creation, and you're looking for enough circumstantial
evidence so you can convict somebody, all these things that
I'm telling you now will be put together as evidence
to say this is a fingerprint. This is being left

(17:22):
behind by a creative force, and that creative force then
leads us to God. You see. So science and spirituality
are being taught to be separate, they actually go together.
And when you combine the two together you get a
much bigger and broader understanding then the other way, where
there's separate this is only science and this is only religion,
and you can't really you can't really get the big

(17:45):
picture that way. If you want to get to the
root of everything, the quantum physics, quantum mechanics, supersymmetry, and
science can actually back up what's happening on the spiritual side.
So because of that, and there's one more thing I
want to mention. Scientists got together in a lab and
they created something called an eighth dimensional quasi crystal. Now,

(18:07):
when they position this eighth dimensional quasi crystal, and I'll
give you some graphics for this, by the way they
positioned it, they created a shadow, a light shadow, a
shadow of light, not a shadow of darkness, was created
a fourth dimensional quasi crystal. And when they position that
fourth dimensional quasi crystal in a particular angle, it created
a sphere. And that sphere is a light shadow of

(18:29):
a higher dimension, which they believe is a universe that
we're living.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
In, so almost like a hologram.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yes, we're living inside of a fractal holographic matrix made
of light. The Bible was right, the Korana's right, that
all the ancient indigenous peoples were right. We are living
in a creation. There's no doubt about it. What I'm
saying is science is pointing to the method used for
this creation. The method that this entity God used is

(18:55):
a fractal holographic matrix of light, which is based on
the Mandelbrot set. It's based on error correcting codes, it's
based on quasi crystals. In all these other formats that
allow it to allow this realm to actually exist.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
So part this what I'm hearing is part of this crackingness.
Code for you is not about I think most people
want you to believe one way, yes, and one thing.
But part of your code of what you've practiced that
the spirituality and not the religion.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, I don't want the religion because religion is man made.
Religion is man made. When anytime I can you know,
I can read certain parts of the Bible where it's
clearly oppressing women, where they're vindicating and approving slavery, where
where they're approving starvation of people, where they're approving slaughtering
an entire town because one person speaks against me, slaughter

(19:48):
to women, slaughter the children, slaughter, you know, slaughter sort
of the virgins unless you want to keep them. It
says that you could take the ens mind. Yeah, bring
me and then bring me back to the war. Now,
when I'm thinking about God, I don't think God needs
any spoils of war, So why would he demand them
to bring spoils of war back? It didn't add up
to me. So what I'm saying is certain things that

(20:11):
are in there are influenced and remixed by a flesh
and blood person. Because why because they want to be
able to implement that in the name of God and
dominate another group of people, just like the chosen land
these got. These Israelian people is rarely fighting against the Palestinians,
and they believe that they deserve to eradicate them, even

(20:31):
though they themselves have already been gone through something similar
in Germany. Now they want to do that to another
group of people because God's promised that they have the
right to this land. That doesn't sound like it sounds
like a man said, you know what, we'd like to
take this land. If we say God ordained it to
us or gave it to us, then we can go
here and wipe these people out all in the name
of God. We don't have to have a dirty conscience

(20:52):
about it. It's just it's the ego of man that's
destroying things in the name of religion. And so if
you take the religious aspect out of it, you take
the remix out of it and go purely only on spirituality.
You go to some of the ancient more ancient teachings,
you discover that it's all about learning how to seek delight,

(21:12):
become delight, how to transmutate all the darkness inside of you,
how to love people, how to be of service to others,
and how to collectively come together and make the world
a better place. And I think that religion it gives
a person a mind where they don't have to take
responsibility for their own actions. In other words, I can
do whatever I want to do as long as I

(21:33):
call on the name of the Lord and ask for forgiveness,
I'm good to go. So I can go drink all weekend,
I can cheat on my wife, I can hang out
in the streets, I can dog somebody out, I can
judge people. As long as I get that one last
repent in before I take my last breath, I'm good
to go. Whereas a person can think that way. But
if a person who doesn't think that way, like myself,

(21:53):
and I go my entire life being of service to others,
called building orphanages in Africa, helping people all over the world,
building houses for homeless people, giving away thousands of dollars
to single mothers for their single for their electric bills,
their final tho those electric bills every year. All these
things I've done. But if I never repent somehow the
person that's been killing people their whole life and doing
all this torture stuff, they can repent it the last

(22:15):
second and they can make it to paradise. But because
I didn't do that, but I was a good human being,
I'm not going you see to me, I have a
problem with that. And also I think it allows people
to feel like they can do whatever they want and
not have to answer to it because they can just
do this repenting thing. I think it's an excuse and
an escape to not take responsibility for yourself. And people

(22:36):
like that are waiting to die so they can live.
I chose to live now. Yeah, I believe that the
ultimate mission here is to create heaven on earth? Can
we achieve that? Can you in how many generations can
you come to the realization that you're already in heaven?
The heaven you've been waiting for is right underneath your feet?
Can you convert this into a heaven? Can you al

(22:57):
chemically take the darkness and turn it into light? Can
you bring a golden age to this planet? And how
long will that take? To mean? That's the ultimate mission
for sure?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I mean you've talked about this before. The Ordainers of destiny.
We talk about being ordained to do things. There's always
been the ordainers of destiny, and we really are that
for our own lives. I want you to delve into
how we really can crack the cold and manifest and
see and create.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Our own reality.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Absolutely. You know, in the ancient Sumerian tablets, there are
these beings that they're not God, even though some of
them masqueraded as gods, by the way, but they just
had advanced knowledge. So to the people who didn't have
the knowledge, they appeared to be godly or to be spiritual,
but they were just very extremely, extremely smart people. And

(23:47):
in my opinion, they were the ones that wielded some
of the advanced technology that built some of these ancient
sites that we see all around the world. And some
of them call themselves the Ordainers of Destiny, and not
all of them, but some of them call themselves the
Ordainers of Destiny. And they would have this crystal tablet,
believe it or not, which is just wild that they
would have a crystal tablet because it almost sounds like
an iPad or something the way they talk about how

(24:08):
it looked, and on this tablet they would see potential
future outcomes on this planet, this breakaway civilization they were
creating here, and they would actually then consciously focus into
each individual potential outcome and see what was going to

(24:28):
happen in the future. If they make a decision here,
if I make this decision here, if I change my
mind and do this over here, if I nudge this
over here, what are the outcomes?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Now?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
In science and quantum physics, we know through the double
slit experiment that everything exists as a wave of potentials
until a conscious observer collapses it into the illusion of
solidity or solid matter. So we are co creating reality
by that method scientifically. Now, these people were using the
same exact technique, but they were using it through spiritual consciousness,

(24:58):
and they were actually collapse collapse seeing the wave function
by visually seeing what potential future outcomes were there, and
when they found the one they wanted, they would then
collapse it by setting a course of action towards that outcome.
And so I came up with a formula based on that.
It's called conscious thought multiplied by action equals manifestation. Conscious

(25:19):
thought multiplied.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
By a multi applied by action equals manifestation equals manifestation
so you got to think it. Then you got to
put some action behind it. But you got to have
some belief towards it, right.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Exactly, and then you'll manifest it. And they knew this.
So CT multiplied by A equals M. That's the formula, right,
And so that's trademark, by the way, trademarket already. And
so but it's a real powerful formula because you can
apply that to anything. You can literally apply I don't

(25:50):
care what it is. If you apply that formula, you're
going to get an end result. Okay, you're going to
be better off than when you started if you apply
that formula. And they knew this, and so I took
that and understood that I literally am helping to co
create my own reality. That you know, most people don't understand.
We're co creating as a as a mass, but on
an individual basis, we have a certain level of control

(26:12):
over our own reality tunnel. Most people are not aware
of it. Our tunnels crisscross. So right now we're here together.
Our tunnels have crossed. Right, we're here at this point
in time, this temporal period. Our tunnels have cross I'll
go on my way and you'll go on your way
after this. So there's a certain amount of control you
have over your own reality tunnel that gives you the
ability to witness your own co creation capabilities and powers. Well,

(26:36):
the problem is most people want to create or manifest
things in their life without the action steps we even
talked just focus on it, just think about it. But
the way that they're thinking about it isn't working because
it's saying one day I will, I hope, I could,
I wish I can. I'm not good now, but maybe
one day it'll happen. That's not manifesting. That's hoping, wishing
and praying, and that's nothing's going to come out of that.

(26:59):
You have to be direct with exactly specifically what you want.
You got to know what it is and claim it
just like it says it's in all the biblical texts
and everything else. You have to claim it and own it.
And when you think about the thing, you don't think
about obtaining it. You think about think about it as
if it's already yours.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Already there.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I mean, we have a vision board course on our platform,
and it's really the vision board is really just the guide.
It's just a god, it's just a map. It's just
a GPS on how to get to that specific thing.
But when we talk about the action steps give somebody.
You talked about this in one of your interviews, chopped

(27:35):
about like a car, right they manifest? Want to manifest
a new car, you say, go test drive the car.
You say, go get in the car, understand the workings
of the car, see it, feel it, believe it. Like
all of those things, what is that first thing that
people you would tell people to do.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I'll tell you one thing that I did. Okay, I
wanted to build a house. This is one of the
first out actually is the first out first lists I
ever had built from scratch. Well, when I found the
location of the I took a tupperware cup, a tupperwear bowl,
a small one, and I popped the lid off and
I went to the land and I scooped up the
dirt and I put the lid back on top. And

(28:09):
I left with that dirt in my hand inside of
that tupperware bowl. Took it back to my house and
put it right on top of my desk where I work,
right next to my computer. Because I claimed that land.
That land is mine. Now I own this land. I
already owned it. Before I owned it, I had no
idea how I was gonna get the money to down payment, nothing,
the loan, nothing was even close to being there. I
mean not even close. But I had the dirt. I

(28:31):
had the soil from that specific location on that land.
I wanted that piece, and through that process again I
got the soil. I've claimed it. Now now I'm on
my computer making my plans, and I'm coming up with
all different types of ideas. What can I do? What
kind of clients do I need to bring in? Here's
the total of my need. How can I reverse engineer
this money backwards? What can I do to obtain contracts

(28:53):
to help me get enough to put this down payment?
So once I get the down payment, I'm in. I'm
gonna lock it in. And I literally reversed engineered it
and it was able to get new clients. Had a
marketing company at the time, get some marketing contracts, get
some prepayments and so forth, and close a couple of
other big deals, and I was able to make that
down payment. Once I made the down payment, I knew
I was home free. I was going to get that loan.

(29:15):
But again it's that. But then when I came to
my meditation process on this property. I've already got the soul.
I've already claimed it. I'm doing my reverse engineering for
my action steps my meditation. I'm not meditating on thinking
this house one day will be mine. I'm meditating as
if it's there. I see myself pulling up in the
driveway getting out. I've got a key in my hand,
I unlocked the door, I open door, I walk in.

(29:37):
I see it fully furnished, and I sit down on
a couch and I turn on ESPN to watch my updates. Right,
so I'm living in the house. In my meditation, I'm
not hoping I can get it or focusing on one
day it'll come be attracted to me. I've already obtained
it in my conscious thought. This is the original platform.
When we understand that the original platform, it's in Instagram

(29:57):
and Facebook and YouTube, the platforms. He the consciousness platform.
And here, where the mind is multi dimensional, we create everything.
Without this multi dimensional platform here, there'd be nothing here.
There wouldn't even be a mic for me to talk
into because somebody had to consciously envision this microphone in
their mind, right, and that's up here in a multi

(30:19):
dimensional state. And then once they envision this microphone, they
said to themselves, this would be a great tool to
use for, you know, for people to talk into, to
project their voice and save their voice. And then from
there the person if they thought about it enough, they've
made it in their mind. They've made a multi dimensional object.
It collapses into two dimensions by drawing it on a

(30:40):
piece of paper, and then they take it to a
designer who puts it into a c AD computer assistant
design still two D even though it looks three D.
But now they can move it around, look at the
angles and everything and make sure they get it just right.
And they take that data and give it to an engineer.
The engineer brings multi dimensional concepts from collapse into two
D and brings it up into three D. And now
we have a three dimensional microphone that I'm speaking into

(31:01):
now because an engineer learned how to stack atoms in
a way like legos that give me a tool that
I can actually use to broadcast my voice. So the
point is I'm making is it all started as a
conscious thought and then action was taken, and now this
mic is manifested. Man doesn't make anything We consciously create
in our minds. And then we take that creativity and

(31:22):
we stack atoms like legos, and we create tools that
we can't make. The atoms they already exist, they were
already here. We can only stack them. But we're creating
everything as we go. And if we didn't have that power,
there'd be nothing here. We'd be sitting here, we wouldn't
be sitting down, the chair wouldn't be here, right, we'd
be under a tree somewhere, but naked. So people take
for granted how much power we have in creating. We've

(31:44):
created everything on this planet.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I mean, I love this because I think so so
often we get caught up in the minute ship, right,
We get caught up in these little little things, right,
the little things that become the distractions in our lives.
But when we really under saying that we truly are
the ordainers of our destiny, that we are co creators
with the most high God to see everything that we say,

(32:09):
our lives go to another level.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Absolutely absolutely see, this universe, in my opinion, is imbued
with divine energy which is coming from God, and that
divine energy is flowing through every single adam in our body.
Scientists not only did they find out that you can
store information on DNA in a volume, which is incredible.
A scientist named George Church took his e book and

(32:32):
replicated eighty billion times and then downloaded it onto one
drop of DNA. He converted the zeros and ones that
made up the e book into AC's, t's, and g's,
which is read write for DNA, and then he dropped
it onto the DNA and then he converted it back
from AC's, t's and g's back into zeros and ones
and uploaded it back to the server. So DNA is
read right, Is.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
This the matrix? Are we in the matrix?

Speaker 1 (32:54):
We're in the matrix. We're in the matrix. I'm telling
you that's what my book is called. The Matrix Code
revealed the Freckle, The Matrice code is revealed in my book.
I'm telling you it's real, and we are literally living
inside of We're part of a sophisticated divine program. Whether
some people think that they take that up, you know,
you know I got blood in it. Yeah, but at

(33:17):
the deepest level, you don't have blood. At the deepest level,
there is no blood because your blood is made of atoms,
and atoms are niney nine point nine empty space. So
there's not even any blood there. Matter of fact, there's
so much nothing here in this realm. There's eight point
three billion people on Earth. If I took away all
the empty space and the atoms from everyone's body, I

(33:37):
can fit everyone into one sugar cube. There's nothing here.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I want you to go into this a little bit
deeper because even when we think about water, right, and
the study that's been done on water, and the scientists
who did this neuroscience that you put the water in
the jar love hate the frequency that goes into it,
and we think about our own lives, we really are
conducting water sphere of every day body by water bodies.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
That we have.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, well, the Bible says a tongue is a two
edged sword, right, It's a fact these some of these
people knew what the heck they were talking about, because
the body is made up of seventy percent water. And
doctor Masouda Imoto, who I was blessed to be able
to not work with him because he passed away, but
I work with his understudy for some time on frequencies
and four thirty two herts and the power of water,

(34:28):
learning how water has memory and what water can do
based on emotional output. Now, when you look at water,
if you do have water, and you bless it, you
pray over it, you send positive vibrations to it, positive
thoughts to it, it will crystallize in a very positive
woad underneath the microscope. If you have negative thoughts towards
the water, or speak negatively towards water, and then look

(34:50):
at it under a microscope, it'll have maliformed crystals. Sometimes
it won't even crystallize, which is crazy. So we know
that water is directly affected by CONSC output. Now, if
your body's made of water and you're sitting there thinking
I suck, even if you're saying it quietly within your
own self, that's still a vibration. How because your thoughts

(35:10):
don't stay inside of this bone your skull. Your thoughts
leave your skull. We know this because if I put
an EEG cap on you, I can capture your thoughts
and send it to a computer.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
This is why when people walk in a room, you
don't have to say anything.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Right, your energy speaks for itself.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
You can feel their energy, you can get you can
download their energy. You can quantum and tangle even with
their thoughts absolutely, which is real science, and so you
can't speak negatively about yourself. You can't think negatively about yourself.
And even when you're speaking towards someone else with vile
that is also affecting the water in your body. It's
making your water malform, making malformed cells. It's affecting your

(35:47):
mitochondria or your organ alles and everything within the body
and creating this disease which eventually turns into disease, which
then has you pushing up daisies.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I mean, because it sounds elementary right when you say
it like that, but it really is a simple way
to live your life.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
It is. It is if you can focus on peace. Unfortunately,
you know, I've been in situations where people have been
around they don't believe that you can live without having
an argument. And they almost convinced me that, oh, yeah,
you have to have arguments. I even went to a
counselor one time that said, you know, arguments are normal,
you have to be an arguments. I'm like, do I

(36:27):
have to be an argument?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I mean, even when we talk about relationships, right, talk
about if this is your person, how are they when
they're angry?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
You should be arguing with each other?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
How is he an argument? Yeah, And I'm like, I
can have a disagreement, but nobody should to attack me
to the point where I now have to respond, you know,
loud and my character. Which can happen. It's happened to me.
I'm thinking, there needs to be no argument. There's no
need to argue. We can literally have a strong disagreement.

(36:58):
At the end of the day, we can leave with that.
I agree to disagree and still love one another and
still don't have an argument. And I think that we've
been fooled into believe in arguments have to happen, and
we self sabotage yourself because things look like they're going
too good. We make things happen that bring this negativity in,
or we create situations for ourselves that that just hold

(37:18):
us back. It's all programming code. We have to begin
to separate ourselves from those thoughts. We have to see
ourselves not as the thoughts, but the observer of the thoughts,
and then we can reprogram ourselves on the fly. Yeah,
it takes time in the beginning, but if you can
pull yourself back and take some space in between your reaction,
you can then reprogram your output. A lot of people

(37:38):
only reacting, reacting, reacting, Billy, I'm so.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Glad you said this because a few weeks ago, I
went on live and I talked about this because I
was having one of those you know, just a shitty morning.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
You know how you just get in.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Your feelings, get in your emotions, right, And I told
this story of how I was.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I was. I made something to eat.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
I made this and I was about to eat it,
and I got this phone call. Now, mind you, I've
had Chinese medicine practitioner Jimmy j on the show.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
We talked about how how we eat, how it.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Affects our digestion, stagnant liver, all your cheat, all of
these things.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Right, I get this phone call.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I immediately put the food down because I said, you
already having a whole reaction.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Well, we can't do is put some food on top
of this.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
But what I did in that moment, Billy, is I said,
you need to get on the frequency. I put on
a ten minute meditation, I got quiet, I focused on
my breath, and immediately.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
I got back on the frequency.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Shifted my whole entire day, shifted my whole mindset within
ten minutes. And I think that so many people forget
that they have power inside of themselves to shift reality
at any given moment.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Absolutely, you hit it on the head. I learned from
myself that getting angry and frustrated and getting out of
my case character only tortures myself. Yeah, I'm only punishing myself.
I'm literally making my own self sick. You know, it's
the worst thing.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
You can do to no one's feeling this headache, yeah,
because I've been screaming and.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yelling at you. Nobody else is getting this headache but me.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Okay, exactly, And I just came to the realization at
this point in my life, at the age of'm at
right now, I'm just like, you know what, I don't
have to argue, and I'm not going to argue. Yeah,
I'll disagree and we'll work things out, we'll talk through things.
But i don't care who it is. But I'm not
arguing anymore. That part. I'm just not gonna do it.
I'm going to have more control over my consciousness and
my ability to process information and take that space like

(39:37):
you did. And when we can do that, then we
truly get back into our true character.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
And also in a higher vibration and that high vibration
will supersed and overwrite any low vibrations and bring positivity
back towards us. Because whatever vibration we get into, that
is actually what's going to come toward us. Like a
boom brang. The universe is all you want to be
in a bad movie, I'm gonna send you a whole.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Bunch of stuff done it. It's like a whole avalanche
of bad.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Like you get this one feeling, and if you're willing
to ride that feeling out, baby, you're going to get
it the whole day.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
All day, and wherever you look, here comes more stuff. Yeah,
you know, And I said, man, I just can't. I
can't allow myself to be in this position. And it's
hard to it's a gradual process breaking out of that,
you know. And I still catch myself every now and
then slipping into it. Cat. But when I catch myself like, okay,
I see what I see what you did there? Yeah,
oh god, I got that. So learning less. Let me
make sure when this particular thing it blinds out of me.

(40:24):
But I'm not going to allow that to happen this
time next time. And it's a learning process. But if
you work on it, you can become really good at it.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, I mean the sales.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Let's talk about how our sales feel, the frequency, how
we are able to really shift that that consciousness and
that thinking in that moment. Because you use affirmations all
the time, and you said, if you do these affirmations
for twenty one days, your life is going to change.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Oh, you can read write your DNA. And this is
not me saying that. This is actual scientists, peer reviewed science.
A duplicated, replicated study was done where they said, Okay,
we're gonna have a group of people. We're gonna take
take their vitals and everything else, we're gonna check their body,
check them on the cellular level, and then we're gonna
have new positive affirmations for twenty one days. So people

(41:16):
were doing positive reformations six to nine times a day
for twenty one days, and when they came back to
get another check up and some blood work done, they
found that they had pretty much began to rewrite their
own DNA. So that's mind blowing that we have the
power ourselves, without any kind of surgery, without any kind

(41:36):
of prescription drug, to actually rewrite our own DNA just
by speaking positively of ourselves and speaking positive reformations. I
made a song called Affirmations. It's my number one song artist.
Billy heyd I've been on Billboard twenty eighteen Return of
Banky Album. I produced the album and I appear on
four songs on the album. I've got three hundred and

(41:58):
forty songs in global distribution right now. Wow, I make
more money than most rappers. I don't never had to
go to a club and pop a bottle.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah, flat fat team.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Billy said, I don't have to go make no club appearances.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
I ain't gonna do that. I got songs playing on
TV shows, How Atlanta Housewives, documentaries, movies, playlist at mall
shopping centers. Yeah, were sitting.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
At dinner, we listened to Billy Carson.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
You don't even know, you have no idea, you don't
even know. Yeah, And I'm coming out with a new
album right now that I'm producing, co producing with twenty
one Savages.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Producer right now, Billy, Oh, don't wait a minute. You
gotta are you.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Rapping every now and then? I gotta drop a verse
every now and there. It's a song called Black Knight,
which actually got charted, and I have a chart plaque
called Black Knight and that came out and I'm actually
on one verse on that album.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Twenty one Savage is on your.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Not twenty one Savage the pit producer. Oh please have
me co producer album right now? New one?

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Okay? Yeah, what's your rap name?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Forbidden Knowledge?

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Okay, Spotify app? You know what? Excited? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Really.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I make a lot of songs. I try to make
songs that all four thirty two hurts. For all my
songs are on the right frequent. I have some five
to twenty eight, but mostly four thirty two. So four
thirty two five twenty eight hurts frequency, which is good
heart frequency. Heart frequency, good for the DNA, good for
the cells in the body nervous because you want your
body to cell lebrate. You want your cells to celebrate.

(43:31):
You don't want your cells to disintegrate, which is what
four forty hurts does. So all my songs are are
encoded at four thirty two and five twenty eight hurts.
I have meditation tracks. I have some meditation tracks that
are all eleven minutes eleven seconds. We got something that
are shorter, uh meditation videos. And I have conscious hip
hop songs, but it doesn't sound like you're being preached to.

(43:51):
It sounds like trap music. When you start hearing the lyrics,
you're like, well, let me look that up. Now, I've
got a researcher on my hands. I done turn this
kid into a research for a knock. Hell's that now?
They looking into ancient civilizations and stuff. You say, so,
I did a reverse psychologist. So let me go after
these kids by giving them music that they like that
they know because the first thing you hear is the beat.
If you like the beat, they got your hook. You

(44:12):
don't know the words right away, then you learn the hook.
Now I got the hook. The hook has to be
powerful and it has to teach something, and then from
there you get the lyrics. Now I want to know
what the hell I'm saying, because this song is bombed
now when they look it up. Now, I got them
googling and researching everything I want them to think about.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I mean because you've talked about two affirmations in particular
that you've been very vocal about I am the architect
of my life and I am worthy. And when you
break down the whole idea, because I am worthy is
one of mine and I say that I am worthy,
I am enough, I am a captivating woman, I am loved,
I am cared for, I am adored in the world.

(44:49):
And so I say those things to myself. So I
attract love, and I feel like people like me. You know,
everywhere I go, I'm captivating, you know. But you you
talk about being the architecture of your life and being worthy,
because for so many moments in your childhood you did
not feel worthy.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I didn't feel worthy. I felt like I was. I
grew up in abject poverty, you know. I mean, I
came from beneath the gutter. Like literally, people have no
idea how hard it was to be able to go
outside and take a bath in your backyard because with
the waterhole connected to your neighbor's house by the way, wow,
because we didn't have water.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
We didn't have enough money to empty empty the septic tank.
It wasn't a sewer system back then. It was a
septy tank. I don't know if the neighborhood has sewer now,
but we had a septic and so it was full
and overflowing, and our house was a stinkers house because
the sewage was literally flowing out from the top of
the grass in the front yard, and we didn't Because
of that, you couldn't take showers in the house, and
you couldn't run water in the sink when you did
have water, because it would fill up with sewage. Okay, yeah,

(45:53):
so you used to go outside and steal fruits off
of trees from neighbors' houses to eat those fruits. A
lot of times we just had a box of matzas
monster crackers, you know, Jewish crackers with thin wafers and
butter or Cairo syrup and toast that white clear syrup
on top of toast. Sometimes neighbors would give us some
food here and there, you know. And holes in my shoes,

(46:14):
holes in my pants. I was grown so fast. All
my crotches were ripped open because the pants were too small.
I would get picked on because I only had two
pairs of pants, so I had to out smart everybody
to stop getting picked on. I would go to the
store and get the ritz die I read this story
about you. Yeah, dye the pants. I would bleach them
first and dye them and dry them out, change the
colors so it looked like I had multiple pairs of pants.

(46:36):
And I would wear a very over over oversized T
shirt to cover the crotch area so that people couldn't
see the whole of my crotch. And you know, unfortunately,
the last time my mom bought me shoes, which was
the most embarrassing thing, was the beginning of the school year.
She only had five bucks and McGregor had a sale
at kmart for the football cleats. So I wore football
cleats to school as my school shoes. Wow with the rubber,

(47:00):
I don't think that we're in the school. I played
basketball with them and ran track with them. I never
played football. I bless your high So I know what
it's like to suftwerre and be and struggle and be
poor and broke and have nothing to eat, and like
I said, you know, taking shounds outside and not having
an electricity input because of the gun fire in the neighborhood.
Sometimes we have to sleep on the floor because you
need the baseboard is extra protection against the random bullets

(47:22):
coming into the house. Because we even had a couple
of bullet holes from the center blocks on the outside
of the house. We got hit with a couple of
bullets the house did, and so it was like you know,
seeing neighbors get killed, murdered, you know, and all that.
It was just it was a It was an event
every day the crossing guard. Back then, crossing guards used
to be kids. They change it now. And I'm pretty
sure it had to do with kids abusing other kids

(47:42):
or bullying other kids. Because our crossing guard would try
to rob us for our school money or our food,
depending on which one we had. We'd have to sneak
into school.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
So this is the kind of conditions, you know, that
I grew up under. And I remember my third grade
teacher told me. You know, one day they were asking
everyone like, what do you want to be for a living,
and people would jump up, I want to be a postman.
I want to be a guarish man. I want to
be a doctor, you know, I want to be an attorney, whatever.
And I dropped up and said I want to be
famous and be on TV. And the teacher said, Billy,
you never be on TV. You never be famous. Look
where you come from. And everyone started laughing at me.

(48:12):
And I became like a laughing stock for months after that,
and I cried. I cried like a baby. I ain't
gonna lie and I was hurt, but in some way
that actually drove me. I didn't take the victim mindset
out of that and give up on my dreams. And
now I'm one of the people with the most billions
of views on the most screens, probably damned almost in

(48:32):
the world outside of professional athletes and professional singers. And
I'm on probably over one hundred TV shows on mainstream
channels like Travel Channel, History Channel, Discovery Channel, Science Channel,
and my topics ranged across the broad ranging topics. But
but you know again, I could have let that destroy me,
and I could have took the PTSD mindset, but I
took the PTG mindset post traumatic growth. I took all

(48:55):
of that that was against me, and I put it
all together and I packaged it and put it inside
of my heart, and I said, I'm gonna thrive because
I don't deserve to be here. I deserve abundance. Abundance
is my birthright. I truly believed it. I believe that
I deserved it to live a better life. I believe
that I deserve to be able to grow and develop
and do things that I want to do. And that
this wasn't this word I'm looking at is not my reality.

(49:17):
This is temporary. I always saw it as temporary. And
one day I sold my toys door to door. I
went door to door with my little toys and ex
for dominations.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
She wanted the ice cream off the ice cream truck.
All your friends were getting ice cream and you weren't
getting any.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Weren't getting any ice cream. I was like, how can
they buy ice cream? Where do they get this money from?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
We all the same, in the same neighborhood, where y'all
get y'all cars like may So.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
I said, you know, I'm gonna sell my toys. So
I went door to door. I violated my mom's rules
by leaving the front yard because the neighborhood was deadly,
and I went around one block boom boom, boom, and
I got thirteen dollars and change asking for donations for
my toys. And that's when again I knew my life
was gonna change. And that's when I said to myself,
I actually said this, it's me that's gonna save me.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I knew it, it's me that's gonna save me. To
the person who's listening to you right now, who doesn't
have a PTG mindset, a post traumatic growth mindset.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
What would you tell them to do.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Well, The first thing they have to do is they
have to get out of the victim. They have to realize,
and this is hard to do, and it's not a
negative thing, but that they've taken the victim role in
the whole global universal scenario. They've said, these things happen
to me, and now I'm being punished in some way,
and I feel this anxiety and this punishment and I
can't escape it. A hard thing is to do is

(50:30):
to move through that and realize that everything that's happened
to has brought you to the point where you are now,
and you can capitalize and you can use it as
a catalyst to get to the next level if you
want to see it that way. You see some people
say the cup is half full of the cup is
half empty. I don't even see both of those. I
see that the cup is overflowing. Why because on top
of the water, there's atmospheric gases exists inside the cup

(50:51):
and that's overflowing out of the cup. So the cup
is always overflowing. My mind is seeing things totally different.
They have to shift the way they're believing and seeing things.
They have to really realize that everything they've been shown
is almost really an illusion, but an illusion that's guiding
them down the path, and there's a fork in the
road on that path. They can go down the dark
side or they can go down the light side. They
got to come to a point where they draw a

(51:11):
line in the sand and say enough is enough. I'm
not the victim anymore. IDs are better, and I want better,
and I'm going to manifest better from myself, and I'm
going to take the steps to do better, become better,
feel better, become healthier mentally and physically. And when they
take that stance, that positive stance, and are assured of it,
and their feet are firm on the ground, that's when
they can begin to shift out of that vibration and

(51:32):
move into the right direction.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Yeah. I totally believe that.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I think that we give up so much of our
power when we blame other people. Yeah, ah, there's so
much talk. I mean, you are a seasoned chicken out here.
You know, you got some season on your chicken. Billy
over fifty years old, fifty three, You're in great shape,
thank you. How important is your physical health to the

(51:57):
work that you do in the world?

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Super important? I mean, my podcast schedule this week is
brutal intense. Yeah, it's intense.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
I mean you're leaving here and you're on a whole
tour after you.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
I mean, yeah, yeah, I work this morning. I stayed up.
I said, well, I must well not go to sleep.
I gotta leave at four am. Left at four am,
took here some business again in another place in Western
hopped on again, went to the airport, hopped on a plane,
came here. I'm gonna leave here, go do a podcast.
Then I'm gonna go I hop on a plane tomorrow,
go do a podcast, have a business meeting in the evening,
fly down to Tampa, do another podcast, have another podcast

(52:27):
at evening. Then I'm gonna drive down to Sarisota, do
another podcast, then go back to Tampa, hop on a plane,
and go back to the house.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Now, that takes a lot of physical strain on the
body and the mental, right, so you have to be
prepared for that type of workload mentally and physically and
so and because those scenarios happen a lot, I have
to really take advantage of the time when I can
exercise and workout, and even when I'm not able to
get to the gym because of that type of travel schedule.

(52:53):
I'm working out in the bed. Yeah, I'm literally doing
leg raises, crunches, squats on side of the bed.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I'm opening the door to the bathroom and just pull myself,
lean myself, my feet back and pull myself forward, curls, calistenics,
anything you can do to keep the blood flow and
keep the limp pumping and to show the body that
you're not neglecting it. And of course, you know, take
the decent supplements that the body needs to keep yourself healthy.
I think are also very important. But health is wealth.
When I was dying from pneumonia, and I do mean dying,

(53:23):
I was my white blood cell count was trending towards forty.
I was above thirty. My organs were going into shut down,
and I had a near death experience. And I came
to the realization that week of going through that whole
thing emotionally and physically, that it doesn't matter what you have. Yeah,
I can't get out of this bed right now. Yeah
I can't. I literally could not get up out of

(53:44):
the bed. And so it gives you this sense of
reality and also the mortality of this life. And to
be honest, that even gave me more vigor for under
for wanting to take care of myself even more, and
for want to smell the roses even more as well,
like I stopping to smell the roses, even if it's
just to look up at the sky and enjoy the
clouds for a minute. You know, I take these little

(54:05):
moments to just enjoy because tomorrow's never promised. And you know,
and without no matter what you obtain in this life,
you know, if you if you're not healthy, it means nothing.
If I was a trillionaire, if I was the world's
first trillionaire and I was stuck in that bed forever,
I mean, would it matter? Nothing does nothing for you.

(54:27):
So yeah, take care of your body. Take your body
and your health seriously, this is your temporal body. You
only have it for a period of time. And also
I believe that's part of the test for us as well,
how we take care of ourselves. Do you respect your
vessel that you're actually inhabiting at this moment.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Billy, you know I live this, Go ahead, keep going
right here.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
You guys. A lot of people take out they take
their vessel for granted and you know, it's like it's
like I'm doing this so many good things, and I'm
helping this, and I'm helping that. Okay, that's fine, congratulate relations,
but what are you doing for your own personal self?
One of the things I learned just through getting on
an airplane and they tell you that if we lose

(55:10):
cabin pressure and oxygen masks drop, make sure you put
that on yourself first and have oxygen flowing to you
first before you help anybody else. And I think a
lot of people just give away all their energy without
looking back to putting the energy back into themselves. And
a lot of people say, well, I'm too busy, I
can't do this and I can't do that. Or in

(55:30):
my schedule. I started putting my exercise on my schedule
because it's all my schedule. It's getting done right. My
fitness is all my schedule, my self care is all
my schedule. So when I get a notification, it's time
to do that for me. And we have to. Then
we have to prioritize our health, prioritize our mental health,
prioritize our self love. If we don't do that, we'll

(55:51):
get carried away, giving away all our energy all over
the place and nothing for ourselves. And I saw it
happened to my mom. Unfortunately, she died at sixty two
years old, and she just Gabe, Gabe gave, Gabe gave
and accepted and accepted. And she lived a very stressful life,
especially with my dad. Unfortunately. Uh, and I saw it
just literally steal her entire life away, took the breath
of life literally out of her body. And she ended

(56:12):
up dying from ALS, a neurological disease that was all
stress years and decades and decades of no self care
and just being stressed out. And I said that DNA's
in my body, So I have to do better, and
I can't. I can't allow this to be something that
runs in my family, right, Yeah, and so I decided
to take care of myself.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Yeah, take care of ourselves. The choices we make, right,
comes down to that's all the choice. Yeah, what doesn't
run in your family is nobody ran in your family.
That's what they be saying, Really, a nobody ran and
your family. I mean, we're coming off of the heels
of Easter. You've had many conversations about the Crucifixion, and

(56:52):
we had a late question. Come into this set, guys,
because the current pope has passed away. Yeah, and so
before you leave, we want to get your take on
the new selection process of the pope and what this
process means and even this idea of a black pope

(57:17):
coming into the fold.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
You know, the pope selection is a kind of a
very political process. It's a very strange process that goes
on really kind of really behind the scenes. The last time,
before this pope passed away, there was another potential that
there could have been a black pope, and as there's
the potential this time there could be end up being
a black pope, a black man that's going to become

(57:39):
a pope. But whether or not it is a black
person or not, I think it's kind of irrelevant. I
kind of jokingly said, you know, I wouldn't want to
take that responsibility. I wouldn't want to take the popularity
of being the first black pope. Yeah, just because you know,
from my opinion of my research, what that religion stands for,
Catholicism is it's got very dark roots, very dark roots

(58:02):
within Roman, the Roman civilization, Roman Empire, the Papal Inquisitions,
which where over the course of seven hundred years under
the pope's order, over eighty million people were tortured and
slaughtered to bring in the good news in the religion.
And I mean it was bad. It was a dark time, right.
So they would go to a place and they would

(58:23):
subdue a village and they would take the head of
that village and they would say, you guys are going
to take this religion. You're gonna speak our language.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
I mean, we can go here in the United States
with the indigenous.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
People, the American Holocaust, I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
The Native Americans and what Catholicism did across this country.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
And the Holocaust was brutal. Eleven million indigenous natives of
the Americas slaughtered and killed over the course of seventy years. Wow.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
They always want to talk about Hitler, But what about
these two events. Now you can go to Rome and
you can go to the museum where they have the
torture tools on display, so you can't question this. They're
proud of these tools. They have the Pope's spear. You
ever heard of that, No, I haven't. It looks like
a peer shaped object where the long spear pole coming

(59:15):
out of it that they would insert into the women's
private part and then it would it was springloaders, so
it would pop upen on the inside.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Well, if y'all can see on camera, I just clinched tight.
I know y'all can messy with your girl. Just it
just got real tight in this chair.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Okay. Know that that's one of their tools to bring
you to Christianity. And when you see that happen to
a woman, now the whole all the women in the
tribe are gonna be like, you know what, we Christians now,
we're Catholics now. I mean.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
There is a show I mean, and we are going
to get into even this deeper discussion of the pope.
But there's a show that I love called nineteen twenty three.
I love the show nineteen twenty three. Taylor Sheridan, We
want you to come on the show. But he's the
creator of nineteen twenty three. And I will say that
the show did a really good job at depicting history,

(01:00:06):
and especially when it came to the Native Americans, indigenous
people in this in this here in North America, and
when the children were taken to these schools.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, and the abuse, oh severe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
That happened with these indigenous children in these schools in
these Catholic schools with these nuns. When you see it unfold,
I feel like they did a really good job at
depicting that that history.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
They did it really well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah, it's real. I mean the savages were treated horribly,
Oh Jesus. Now they call the indigenous people's savages, although
they were living mostly in peace unless they had a
tribal dispute with another tribe. Yeah, mostly living in peace.
And the whole thing was to dominate, control, put the
boot on the neck, and to monetize them. So here

(01:00:56):
I am sitting under a tree with fruit. All I
have to do is reach up and grab the fruit
and eat it. Now you come, you take claim of
that land that I'm on with the tree, the fruit tree.
You build a structure there and make me work inside
of it so I can have to now buy by
you see what I'm saying. So that's the whole trick
behind it. And a lot of this abuse is mental

(01:01:17):
because they're embedding it into the consciousness and that's going
into the RNA. They were very smart. They knew that
that torture would go into the body and the next
generation would be subdued and more easily controlled than a
generation after that, in a generation after that that they
would create this epigenetic bloodline of people that were ready
to be dominated and controlled and ready to become slaves

(01:01:38):
without even knowing they were going to be slaves.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I mean, but we saw it the Native Americans, the
indigenous people of this land. We saw with the African
people who were stolen and kidnapped and brought to this land.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
And so it is a cycle.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
And so we think about and that goes back to
an earlier conversation of religion. I mean, we can go
to the slave castle's slave dungeons on the western coast
of Africa.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
And Sierra Alone.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
The church, the church is on top of the slave dungeon.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Right there, Yeah, right there, in the name of God.
So what we're saying, and what I've been saying for
a long time is again, I'm not against God. I'm
not against Jesus. I just did a whole video about
what I felt about Jesus and how I feel he's
a template for mankind to usher in another level of
christ consciousness. See, I believe that the Second Coming isn't
this man flying in on a cloud. I believe that

(01:02:31):
the second Coming is the Christ consciousness in our minds,
the renewing of our minds. That's right, the renewing of
our minds. And when we get enough people on that frequency,
the whole world will shift overnight. It will be an
instant in the twinkling of an eye, This world will shift.
We have to get the right number of people on
that frequency. So it's just that my view of my
understanding might be slightly different than other people's. I don't

(01:02:53):
have the dogmatic understanding. I have a much more spiritual
understanding and understanding to me that really is much bigger
than religion can ever be. I'm talking about on a
universal scale, because everything we do here literally echoes into eternity,
the butterfly effect of everything that happens here, everything we
act here, it affects everything throughout the known universe, And

(01:03:15):
so it's much bigger than people even think. You know,
and I don't take on the egotistical mindset that we're
the end all be all of creation, that we're just
the new kids on the block. And there's been so
many other civilizations that have gone on and lived not
only on this planet, but even throughout the known universe.
We're just one of who knows how many googles of
civilizations that have arose to this level, and it's up

(01:03:39):
to us to understand, you know. But back to the Catholicism,
it's just like the people who really run the world
from behind the scenes. It's really somebody called the Black Pope.
And this Black Pope is a super Jesuit. He's a
super Jesuit general who goes in under the specific oath
which I have written out the oath and posted online

(01:03:59):
many times. But do you know that governments of the
world can't go to war unless they get the approval
from the from the Black Pope. The Black Pope controls
who can go to war, who can't, controls economic decisions
around the world.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
So for people listening, because they're gonna say, this is
a black pope, not a black man, Okay, he said, I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Know it's gonna be some of y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Not a black man. They call him the black Pope
because he wears a black robe. His robe is black.
It's always black. He's a super Jesuit general. Just anyone
google the super Jesuit General. That's who's that's one of
the biggest controlling oligarchs of governments and economies from behind

(01:04:42):
the scenes, pulling strings, immense power, immense power. That's who's
really one of the top controllers of what's going on
in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Hm hmm. So when you say controllers of what's going
on in the world, I want you to dive a
little deeper. What do you mean by controllers?

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
When we talk about war, we talk about the econom
we talk about pandemics, we talk what.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Are we talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Which government is allowed to be one of the top governments,
Which countries are going to be third world and stay
third world and never have the opportunity to rise up.
Which governments are gonna politically go to war against each other,
and how can they profit from both sides of that war.
What information can be brought out through history books, through
teachings and through education that they can control and still

(01:05:25):
hold their control over, So they can control the flow
of information to the population, so they can control our minds.
What level of teaching is going to happen in specific
locations in the world that they can still control, and
how to keep people's minds. And the teaching style and
this teaching style of being a prisoner versus being a
creative person. All these things that are going on. They
control even economics are being done behind the scenes, and

(01:05:48):
the Black Pope is one of the biggest controllers on
the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
So basically, what I'm hearing is it really don't matter
who they picked matter.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
This is why every four years I vote for myself.
It's the same thing in America. Left wing, right wing,
same bird right. Go down the voting line. When you
get to the end, there's a guillotine there and and
don't matter what side you're on, your head's getting chopped off.

(01:06:18):
The fact of the matter is presidents don't have that
much control and power. Okay, they can put these tariff threats,
and they can change the uh the transgender laws and uh,
you know they can. There's not a lot of power there.
It's an illusion of a lot of power. But the president,
no matter who he or she is, can't come to
Florida where I live, and say these new laws are

(01:06:40):
going to be enacted today and there's nothing you guys
can do about it. The government gonna say, man, get
out of here. I don't hear nothing you're telling me.
This happened during the whole pandemic, right, you guys gotta
wear a mask, man, please we ain't wear no matter
of fact, throw the mask in the garbage. Yeah no, no,
thank you. We ain't doing that. You know. You guys
gotta get this jab in your hand and arm. Now,

(01:07:00):
we ain't doing that. You guys gotta do this. You
gotta do that. Now, we ain't doing that. So the
states have their own government and their own budgets, and
their own controlling force and their own laws. That's why
you can't be a realtor in Florida. Ain't going to
be a realtor in another state without taking the test
all over again to learn the new laws from another state.
So presidents don't really have a lot of control over
the states. They have the illusion of control. They have

(01:07:21):
a federal level of control in certain areas, but they
really can't dominate the entire country like we think they can.
People say, well, I want this to happen, I want
that to happen. Well, that's up to you a governor.
That's up to what your local your local politics. You
can't that's not going to happen from a presidential standpoint.
And when you come to the understanding that that's what's
going on, you begin to realize this is just a

(01:07:41):
Dog and Pony Show. And the thing you can do
best for yourself is to learn how to become your
own president. And so that's why every four years I
vote for myself. I go down to the voting box,
I write my name in the writing valley. Oh yeah,
and I took a picture of it put it online.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Every four years, you write your name in the box
the box.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
I spent the time to get in line and write
my name in the box and become my own president.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
I love for you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah, drop it in the box. And now I'm the
president again. And guess what I win every time? I
literally win every time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
You you absolutely do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Can you imagine if everyone took on the mindset that
they were the president, and took on their own presidential
ideas and concepts and and what they would like to
see for their community, and became the president of their
family and their communities, and then the change that they
would then now be required to enact because they've taken
this oath. I actually got on my YouTube account, did
my own presidential oath? Read my own oath?

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
I saw you did a whole campaign? Are you a campaign?
A lot of content around your campaign?

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
I mean for the person who's listening though, because there
is somebody who's listening to you, and they said, oh,
there he go with that, that crackpot stuff, there he
go with that, there he go conspiracy theories.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
I don't believe him. I can't get behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
That's that crazy talk about being the president of your
own life and writing your name in the box.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
What do you say to that, Well, there they have
been washed. They've been brainwashing to believe in that they
have no power and that they need to give away
their energy to an outside source to take care of them.
They believe that they've got to believe in someone else
that's gonna come and fix all the problems within their
local community and their city, and even in the country
and maybe even in the world. So it creates this

(01:09:20):
scenario of millions of people sitting back, kicking their feet up,
watching the world burn, waiting for someone else to fix
a problem that they're supposed to go and take care
of themselves. And that's what I can't I can't get
on that frequency. I cannot stand it. I'm gonna I
see something wrong. I'm gonna try to find out if
if I'm passionate about that thing. I'm going to find

(01:09:40):
out how can I become the solution, collaborate with someone
to be the solution, or find someone who knows the
solution to the problem. If we had a country full
of problem solvers instead of cry babies waiting on somebody
to come fix all of our issues, we would be
evolved ten thousand levels above where we are economically. Financially,

(01:10:01):
the abundant level will be through the roof. Everything would
be amazing here. This country would be a golden age
going on right now if we took on that mindset.
Now people say, well, but the soul and so Sally
ain't doing it, and Ben ain't doing it, and Jimmy
ain't doing it. So I'll wait for everybody else to
get started. I don't got that kind of time. I'm
gonna start. I start for myself. I can't worry about
what everybody else is or not or isn't doing for me.

(01:10:22):
I'm gonna do what I can do. And I know
that little bit that I'm doing it has an effect
on the minds of people, and some people will join
in with me and some people won't. But guess what.
The ones that join in, they contact me all the
time and their lives are transforming like you wouldn't believe.
And the ones who don't join in, they're stuck in
the same old box, trying to figure out the same
old things and worrying and crying and arguing about the
same old politics every single day. While people are arguing

(01:10:44):
about Trump and Clinton and biding and all this kind
of stuff. Wile they're arguing who's doing what and who
ain't doing what? Man, I'm just living my life. Yeah,
And I'm free from that dog more. And I'm free
from that because I had no belief in faith in
those people from the beginning. Anyway, I never put faith
in those people. I prove faith in myself.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I mean, I live by this statement. Effective people starve
problems and feed solutions. Effective people start problems and feed solutions.
And so if you are feeding solutions, I'm your girl.
If you're not, you down there are again in them comments, Baby,
we ain't got enough for you now. So as we
begin to close this out, I mean, I feel like

(01:11:25):
I know something that you might say, But what one
word are you committed to in this season of your life?

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Well, this season in my life is a new chapter.
So I'm committed to evolving. You know, I'm just evolving,
and I realize now that I'm really super committed to
addressing childhood trauma. I started the process recently. Some of
the stuff I talked about today, even to be honest
with you, just four months ago probably would have broke
me down to talk about it. But I was able

(01:11:54):
to talk about it today with strength and vigor at
not feeling the emotional impact made me so sad that
I almost wanted to cry. And so that tells me
again that it's working, going back and addressing a lot
of my childhood trauma, a lot of the really dark
situations that I grew up in. One of the most
recents one one that I had to address recently, I

(01:12:14):
just picked. Like you know, I'm pretty much an open book.
I mean, you know my father. You know, when I
was sixteen, I used to pay rent to live in
my house, and I would pay. By the time I
was sixteen, I was paying four hundred bucks a month,
which now would be like two thousand a month. Yeah,
I was paying him four hundred bucks a month. And
you know, my father was a drug addict and an alcoholic,
and I gave him the money In the morning. By
the evening he already blew the money. Now he wants

(01:12:37):
another four hundred. He's claiming I never gave him the money.
He can't remember that I gave him the money. Gets
into it, turns into an argument, and he pulls out
a gun and puts the right to my forehead.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
You know your father puts a gun to your forehead.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Oh yeah, wow. And this is one of the things
that really I could hardly ever talk about because it
would literally destroy me dc and bringing it or thinking
about it. But I've processed so much through that now
through counseling, and there was some amazing program and I
went through with Dave Ashbury called the Forty Years of Zen,
which is a whole week of really self work for
four or five hours a day in a meditation pod,
counselors and everything. It was an eight hour date in total.

(01:13:10):
Four hours to four and a half were just meditations.
But in the meditations you're working on the core, you're
working on your shadow work, and then you come out
with information and then the counselor addresses it. And I've
been really working. So my dedication to myself now to
work through these traumas, work through all these things that
I've been through as a child even to my adult age,
to address them, to process them out of the body,

(01:13:32):
and to not just hoard them into the body, because
eventually those things still are in there to make you ill,
make you sick, also to become triggers for other situations
that have come up in your life. And so I've
been really processing and working on That's my evolution through
my own shadow work right now is my main focus.
And to continue to do that and just continue to
process all those all that shadows and all that trauma

(01:13:53):
that happened to me in the past, and just renew
myself from within. So that's what I've been working on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Billy Carson, you always have a welcome spot here at
Wolden Powers every single time whenever you want to, you
are more than welcome to come. I thank you for sharing,
for being so transparent, so honest in this season of
your life. Volden Power Talks another good one for the books.
Be sure to share this with somebody who needs a
deeper level of evolution. They need to evolve a little

(01:14:22):
and go a little deeper in this season. Until next time,
I'm your girl. Brandy Harvey eat well, give a day.
I'm move your body every single day.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Peace,
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