July 31, 2025 • 54 mins
You’ve seen him flip the script with viral interviews—but now Funny Marco gets real with Brandi Harvey. In this refreshingly honest and hilarious episode, Marco opens up about the purpose behind the pranks, navigating grief, and staying grounded while the internet watches your every move.This conversation is more than laughs—it’s about legacy, healing, and using humor to shift culture. Get ready to see a different side of the man who's redefining comedy and connection in the digital age.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I mean, your mom was a very pivotal role, played
a very pivotal role in your in your life, but
there was a lot of things that you said you
didn't learn from her because she was so busy trying
to take care of everyone that there was a lot
of things that you missed in that nurturing of a woman.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You can get stuck in a system where so many
stuff is passed down from your grandma, and it passed
down to your mama, and then your mama passed it
down to youth.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
There's so much that comes up when we talk about
your family.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's a lot when you live in that's what part
of living is. And when you die, you're gone. You
can't talk about it no more. So while you're here,
it's okay to share your emotion. I'm a person that
never really think about money because money is a dark place.
I appreciate it because it gets me to the next level.
They take it and made it a evil, you know
(00:50):
what I'm saying, object and doing whatever to get it.
And once you find your talent in the world and
you feel good what you're doing, you deserve the money.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Even mentioned you know, when you talked about the money
mentioned your father.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
He said that he was killed over money.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So how has faith kind of shaped your journey with
all the things that have happened to you.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, I was not expected.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Some people are just fucking when you just in the
system of you gotta get money, it's kind of like
when you raise your mama. Just seeing you out like
get a job. You don't really get to be like, go,
what's your talent?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
What you want to do? Welcome to vaught Empower's Talk.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So we don't just scratch the surface, we dive deep
into the lives of some of the world's most influential
change makers. I'm your host, Brandy Harvey. Now today we
got a good one. I think he might try to
throw me off my game a little bit. Marco Summers
is a comedic disruptor, digital sensation, and master of the
awkward moment, with over five followers and viral interviews that
(02:02):
have had Kevin Hart, Nicki Minaj, and Lil Yachti hilariously
off balance. He's carved out a lane in the entertainment
industry that is entirely his own. Was started with Instagram skits,
quickly evolved into a full blown comedy career, national tours,
and headline making interviews that have redefined how we see
celebrity culture now. He's the host of Open Thoughts and
(02:24):
has created original content for Bleacher Report and Netflix campaigns,
all while keeping his style raw, real and unpredictable. Bond
in Power's Talks Welcome father, comedian and content creator Marco
Summers to the show.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
That was a lot that you did all that.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Listen, I told Marco before I said, listen, what am
I gonna get? Am I gonna get the persona of Marco?
Am I gonna get Marco Summer's funny Marco?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Listen. It's gonna be a mix of everything.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, depends on today. I thought today was one day.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Today is Thursday. It's a Thursday. It's a Thursday. But
that's okay. I mean, you are so busy. You maintain
quite the quick career. I mean I literally just saw
your Twitch stream of a pool party with quite a
few ladies over at the house. You know, you had
BT weekend, you know, so you stay pretty busy.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I feel like everybody's busy, like you know, yeah,
like when you're doing something, like life is just you know,
like it's just always going like it's always going.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, but you have people that help
keep you in line. Yeah right, yeah, so you don't
have to be so mindful of all the all the
things in your schedule.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Right, y'all.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Definitely getting help with organization, because that's something I was
never good at.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I mean, you said this, Marco, you said, look, I'm
not a very organized person. You said that when you
sat down and you say you you said, I seem
to be a very.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Organized routine lady.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, you said you could tell by my jewelry.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, how you got it? How long does it take
you to put it on?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's real quick. It's just a one two, one two,
and then slap these on.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
And I'm good, let's don't sing quick.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So that's they take loose, like two minutes probably, and
then you got to see how you want to wear it, right.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
No, I stacked them up and then I slided all
of these on at one time, and then these are separate,
and then I put those one kind of booking them.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But is it something that you've seen happening, like you
built it up like as you're getting pieced by piece
and then or like that was the whole goal, I
need all of them and wear them.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, I didn't always wear this many, but I went
to India and I got some of these when I
was in India, and they are just not afraid to
wear all the jewelry, right, And I was like, you
know what, I'm not inspired. Yeah, you know, I'm not
gonna be afraid to put put on my shit on.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
You know, that's it. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I was literally on the elevator, old white lady.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So that she got on she said, oh my god,
look at your bracelets.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
So I was like, where'd you get those from? I
said India. She was like, oh, well, I mean pretty
far to go to get bracelets. So I said, well,
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
India, Like was it real nice?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
It was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So I went there to meditate with eighty thousand people.
So I meditated with eighty thousand people. A man named
Dodgy who came on the show. He leaves the Heartfulness
movement of meditation, and he invited me to his ben Dhari,
which is his birthday in September, and I went.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So it's like a.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Celebration for their masters who have been in the practice
of heartfulness, and so it culminates around his birthday and
so they celebrate him and then they have the largest
astrom in the world.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
So you keep using these words. I know that sounds
like some food.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So it's like a meditation. Hall Okay, like a meditation.
Use that word will, Okay, I'm gonna keep it, keep it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
But it's always good to learn new words. That's why
it's always.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yes, you are a very smart man.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Here's what I know about comedians because my father's comedian.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Comedians are very smart people.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, in their own way. But in school we probably
wasn't that.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I mean, you've been very vocal. You've talked about how
you grew up with ADHD. You grew up with dyslexia,
and so that made it really difficult while you were
in school.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, and it's hard to get help with that, it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Seems really Why do you say that?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Because they said you got to go to a psychiatrist
to get help.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Because people say, take I forget what it's called, okay,
to help you focus.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, but you get prescribed by a doctor and then
they like, go see a psychiatrist.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Went to see a psychiatrist.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And when I took the test, I didn't pass it,
and they said, I need to focus, and I'm like,
that's why I'm here. So when they said, well you
have to go somewhere else, they sent me somewhere else
and all that, I'm okay, it's good.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You good.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So it made learning very difficult for you and understanding
things along your along your journey. Yeah yeah, but I'm
sure that that has probably lent itself into how you
show up in how you create skits, because that's where
you got your start.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, thinking and going.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And I was just telling my friend that I'm just
a person that deal with consequences later. But I'm gonna
do what I gotta do what's in front of me,
and I deal with the after effect. How big the
consequences are, let me know if I want to keep
doing it?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah, how big the consequences are?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah? Good or bad?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
So interesting?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
So have you found some consequences since you've been doing
this form of comedy?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
A lot of stuff you learn from so good and bad.
So I feel like I really enjoyed it bad more
than good because once I learned bad, I I understand,
you know what I'm saying, it more and I appreciate
the good when it comes.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, So what's good what's happening right now? Because I
recently saw you. We talked about this off camera. You
said years ago you bought the equipment to do twitch. Right,
you bought the equipment, you already had it, but it
wasn't something that you really leaned into because you were YouTube.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
It was just me all over the place.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
So it was like I bought it and then I
physically was in and out of it, and my friends
was telling me, you gotta keep going, like you know,
like it's something that's good because I'm good with I
shared my energy, you know, a lot, so I don't
really like keep it to myself. So being able to
do it on the internet and do it, you know,
offline and online, it's something that you know.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
People are skilled for. Yeah, you do it so much.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You enjoy the money that when it comes because you're
naturally getting paid for what you what God gives you.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I mean, it just feels like it's so I used
this word earlier, you said, don't use this word, but
it just feels very intrusive, like it's all of your business,
all the time of me. It's in your house, like
you literally had the camera set up. You see the
people walking around the back, you know, all of that.
I would just be too scared to do.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That, Marco.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, and that's what it's consequences like you know. So
with that being said, I really don't I don't want
to really live.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
They say like.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Businesses, Like when you use that word, it's something ownership,
you know what I'm saying. So I really don't own Earth.
I just own what I gotta do. So I really
don't keep I just.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Marco.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I have never heard anybody say that that is the
best line of the season.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I don't really own Earth.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah yeah, I really don't.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah yeah, look into me like like this is nothing
is personal to me, Like social Security cards, Like that's personal,
Like debit cards, that's something I don't want to show.
But if I'm living and people can see it, it's
like you know, like and taking a shower, that's personal,
Like it'sert That's why bathrooms is a closed door. But
if it's open, it's like I don't really have nothing private. Yeah,
(10:14):
I'm not a private person, but side stuff you gotta
be private with which the world no, like close the
door when use the bathroom, Like, don't share your social
Security card?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You know, what I'm saying, don't get it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Stuff like that is all right, common sense, But when
my life is like you should know who I'm dating.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You should know who I'm like. You should know if
I'm sad or happy.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Really, you should know who you're dating. You that's how
you're sad or happy.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah? Wow, I mean that's why when you're living, that's
what part of living is.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And when you die, you're gone. You can't talk about
it no more so while you're here. Just it's okay
to share your emotions. That's why it's such a thing
as people miss you when you die because they know
about you.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
But if you're keeping everything to yourself, how will people
know you are a mission?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I mean, I think that that's speaks to this new
generation of creators right where I recently read this article
talking about the mystique of the celebrity is gone. And
then Jada and I, who's on my team, we were
talking about this. She said yesterday in pre production, Beyonce
is the last celebrity really right, because she doesn't share
(11:20):
these very private moments of her life. You only get
a sneak peak. You're going to get a snapshot. And
so your generation is very much. We share it.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
All, not everybody. I don't really think it. It's about generation.
It's about how you feel comfortable with your life and
if you don't overthink it.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
And that's like with your dad. He is part of
my career.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I watched a lot of his stories where he's share
he was homeless about the fishing, like you know him
fishing and the dude calling him and wake him up.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
His motivation speaks helped me out a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
So that's why some people need motivation, because people share
what they've been through.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
So even he did it, so I wouldn't say his generation.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's about what you're okay with dealing with when you
put this out or you're dealing or you're ready to
deal with what people got to say about.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
What you're doing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So some people don't want to hear people opinion, so
they keep it to theirself. Yeah, So if you really
kind of like, I don't care what you want to
you know what I'm saying, Like, and I just feel
like when people say what they want to say, you
got to get ready for people to say, oh wow,
like Nelly if he support Trump, He supports Trump.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Like, I don't care. I don't have an input on
what you're doing with your life.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I just feel like people are so in other people's
business they stop worrying about their business. Yeah, so you
know what I'm saying. It's like, if you agree with it,
you agree with If you don't, you don't.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I mean, I think that that is that level of
mystery and mystique that we really don't have in this culture,
right because we're on our phones twenty four seven, we got,
you know, streaming twenty four to seven. I mean even
you know you mentioned your friend Kysanot before we even
got started with He has streamers University. Now he's teaching
(13:01):
people how to really leverage this. I mean, was that
something that you were like, this is a part of
the sharing of the content, or this is like I
gotta follow the money because the money is leading me
to share in this way.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Really, I'm a person I never really think about money
because money is a dark place. I appreciate it because
it gets me to the next level. But when you
come from like people dying over it and my day
he got killed over money, and from theod people stealing
and robbing, breaking it up for money, it's like a
they take it and made it a evil. You know
what I'm saying, object and doing whatever to get it.
(13:37):
And once you find your talent in the world and
you feel good what you're doing, you deserve the money.
So once you find your real talent and you wake
up and you're happy with what you're doing, the money
is reward. And once you like rewards is something that
you've been getting. Sense a kid, you'd be good, You
get a cookie, you do this that, and then people
got understand you get money, that's a reward. But people
are skipping what they want, what they need to do
(13:59):
to get to it. I don't want to skip, you
know what I'm saying, like what I'm good at because
I feel like if like Lebron James, he was just
good at playing basketball and his reward is a billionaire
most but he deserved it because he had a talent. Yeah,
like you said, Beyonce, she's good at singing and the
talent is the reward of money. So when she found
(14:20):
your talent, money is there money? Anybody can get money?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, I love that. She said.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You don't want to skip what you're good at. Yeah,
you don't want to skip it. Yeah, So there are
other things that you want to do that I think
people may have pigeonholed you and put you in a
box of being funny Marco. Right, And I recently saw
you were on an interview and you said, look, I'm
thirty now, Like I don't want to just be funny Marco.
(14:45):
I'm Marco Summers and so where are you where are
your talents kind of pushing you that you're.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Not skipping in the season?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Break that down?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Okay, So so you have other interest right, you have
other things that you want to do besides making people laugh.
You know, I recently saw that you were into R
and B and you eventually might want to take that route.
So what are some other areas that people may not
be familiar with you?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I might have just caring about people. It's just caring
about That's fuck.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
When you're a good person and you and you share good,
you're gonna receive good. So I feel like, as much
as bad going on, once you realize I need to
be a part of the good, just staying with them
and you just gonna receive it. So helping people get
to the next level, and that's something that makes me
feel good. When I can give like a friend, like
(15:40):
advice or let them in a roma, people that they
never thought they'd being a room with, and then they
take it and run with it.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
It makes me feel good.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
So just seeing people doing good makes you feel good
because you know what I'm saying, Like God is watching you.
You know what you're doing. So at the end of
the day, we got to go somewhere. That's the most
important job in place.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
So okay, So I mean, faith obviously is a very
important part of your journey. You even mentioned, you know,
when you talked about the money, you mentioned your father.
He said that he was killed over money. So how
has faith kind of shaped your journey with all the
things that have happened to you? Because if you're dealing
with death, you're dealing with people who are dying behind money,
(16:21):
You're dealing with all these different setbacks.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't know, Well, I was not expected that, Nigga
mean either.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I was not expecting that it's right by your seat,
I would say, I did not, Marko.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Honestly, I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
It's a good clip.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
What's bringing up that emotion for you? Dimension of your father?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
A little bit? I ain't crying like in some years.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You know, Marco, I would have never even thought, wouldn't
have been a thought, yeah, that we would even see this.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Side of you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
It's not really a side everybody do it. It's yeah,
you know, it might be musty.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah all right, I mean that's just that's a touchy subject.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
When you people are just you know, some people are
just fucking When you just in the system of you
gotta get money, it's kind of like when you raise
your mama just sending you out like get a job.
You don't really get to be like, oh, what's your talent,
what you want to do? So it's like a place
where you set up like that, you know, so when
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you just think it it's all about money, you really
don't think about what I can do. So when people
have a passion and you know what makes you feel good,
you don't really have nobody training.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
You to set you up for that.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And that's why I said, when you do find that's
the most beautifult thing. When you know what you want
to do, you just got to like do it. But
I feel like people are just stuck on, you know, money,
like because that's all we raised, Like go get your job,
not go get your talent.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You know what I'm saying, was it hard in navigating
this journey because your father wasn't there because he was
taking so soon.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I wouldn't say it's hard because I don't know how
it was if he was there or not. So you
can't say it was hard because I got never got
to experience both sides.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
So he was never in your life.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It was back if he was in jail, back and forth.
I'm saying, living the street life. But I can't say
it was hard because I don't know what it was
like with him or without him.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
All I know is one experience, So.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I can't say it was hard because what if he
was there and it was the same thing. So I
can't really speak on something that you haven't experienced both
sides on.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, in my well, that's how I feel.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I mean, your mom was a very pivotal role, played
a very pivotal role in your in your life, but
there was a lot of things that you said you
didn't learn from her because she was so busy trying
to take care of everyone that there was a lot
of things that you missed in that nurturing of a woman.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, but yeah, that's part of it. She was just
more just.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Like I told people, like in my child And that's
one thing with twitch. I'm build in a community where
it's a you can get stuck in the system where
some of the stuff is passed down from your grandma
and it passed down to your mama, and then your
mama passed it down to you, and it's a system.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
It's like you see.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Your mama, see her mama getting food stamps in section eight,
and then she get older and have us and get
food stamps in section eight and then she has me
and my sister, and my sister see my mama will
getting food, sam say, and then.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
She get it and then her kids. So you just
gotta break the tree.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So when you come from all this is normal, you
just feel like this is what it is. But once
you start trying to go figure out like it's born
in life and you actually got one time to live
it's a grateful thing, and you start to see like,
oh wow, it's more over here than just what we've
been seeing down the line.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I mean you're doing things that I know are breaking
so many different patterns in your family. I mean, you
grew up in Kansas City, right, Kansas City, Missouri, so Midwest,
not the safest place in the world.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Right, I feel like the world's not safe, but we
gotta live in it, you know. And that's why you
gotta do good while you're here.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, doing good while you're here. I mean, there are
so many young people that watch you and they are
looking to you as this example, and you are trying
to create this momentum of doing good in the world.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
What would you tell a.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Little black boy who is growing up in one of
these not so kind, not so nice cities in America
where they don't feel seen, they got dyslexia, got ADHD,
not feeling like they're a part of the learning experience,
what would.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You tell them?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Finding your talent if it's something that you feel good doing,
like chase it from basketball, from you know, singing, rapping,
you know a doctor, Like if you feel good and
you want to wake up doing that every day, it's
possible to make millions of dollars off that then just
doing the route that you used to seeing.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
So really, if finding.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Out what I want to do, what could I do
waking up every morning?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
It makes me feel good?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, And once you do that every day, you're gonna
you know, you're gonna stand out. Everybody came from a
small place, you know. Lebron James came from Cleveland, you know,
look at them right, and Cleveland is like, you know
this not the you know. And Davonte Davis from Baltimore.
So everybody is from a place where it's being hard
to be so it's possible to make it.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Yeah, I just felt you once you.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Know, you got a talent, developed the talent, and you
know understand that money gonna come.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
When did you know you had something different? Because you
were doing these skits, you found this lane on the
internet that really nobody was doing this until you came along.
There have been some copycats since you started, But when
did you find it that the thing hit that it clicked.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And just when you live in your life you really
don't looking black. I got this because then that's when
you can kind of get your own ego.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I don't really just like oh yeah this and that,
but just being able to share like good energy, Like
I realized I got that because I see so much
bad energy. So I realized that that I really care
about people.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, I mean there's been a whole shift in you
though over and especially I met Ireland and she is
a beautiful little girl.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, she's really cool.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
There's so much that comes up when we talk about
your family.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, what do you feel is a lot?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Just different emotions, that's it. Yeah, but it's good. It's
like a good Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
What emotions come up when you think about your daughter?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
M This is me trying, that's all.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, trying to be a better person, trying to be
a better man, all of the things. Yeah, she brings
out something that you've never experienced before in your life.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, that's my dog, that's your dog. Yeah, all of them.
I got three kids, so I really just enjoy your mouth.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Oh wow. Okay, so now how old are your other children?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Prize is about to turn one June sixteenth, and millions twelve.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yes, okay, you got different ages and stages right now.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I mean, so this is really stretching you in this season,
and you are not you know, you're still really young,
relatively young.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Thirty years old.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, I'm thirty one.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'll be forgetting thirty one my birthday June nineteenth, Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Or I think I'm thirty two. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It's okay, yeah, the Internet. I'll let us know how
old you are.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah. Yeah. They're so busy with life.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah yeah, I mean, so what are they teaching you
besides you know, making you trying.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You're trying to be a better person, better.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Father, better Just example, I mean, when you when you
leave something for your kids to go back and look at,
that's grateful to have that the internet and pictures that
they'll be able to look at it. I'll go back
and look at my daddy. He just loved jail pictures.
So sometimes what you leave is what you show. So
it's just like I've seen that route of you know,
being like my daddy was known as a real nigga.
(25:44):
But that's what all his homies tell you. But they
don't be there for you, so you know what I'm saying.
So really living for the streets and being real to
them don't really affect your kids.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Once you're dead or gone.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, you got to be present to them and not
just to your friends, you know what I'm saying, Like
girls and stuff, because they tell you their experience of
your dad, but if you don't have it, it really
don't matter.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I mean, that is such a good point that you
just said, And I don't think I've ever looked at
it like that. You said, leaving them something to look at. Yeah,
all your dad left you was jail pictures. But you
were leaving them something a body of work for them
to go look at.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I don't think I've ever thought about it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Even when I think about my own dad, I haven't
really put it into that perspective of he's given me
something to go look at, you know, and he's given
me a lot to go look at me too. Yeah,
that's really good. I mean I can only imagine how
difficult it can be though, you know, even with co parenting,
(26:47):
because you've talked about that before that co parenting can be.
It comes with challenges though, in raising these children. What
has been one of the challenges that you've seen, Oh.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
We was just somebody not seeing the good in you,
like and you care about them even though, so just
them not seeing you giving them the best you can.
So I feel like, you know, as men and women,
we got to look at it like they are doing
the best, and you're like, sometimes they realize that when
you're gone, like oh wow, he really did try, or
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they realize that once they get another father or another comparison.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
So sometimes people.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Need to get somebody bad to know all that's good.
And that's why I say sometimes people need bad to
understand good.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So what has been one of those challenges for you
as like traveling and doing all these things.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Is it spending the time, making.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
The time, not just bringing it back home to them? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I feel like even with my child's mother, I still
want to support them and promote their brands and help them,
like we ain't got to be together, but just overall
comes back to the kids. So that's how I think
it's come back home. And some you know my experience,
some women don't think like that, like just bring it
(28:05):
back home to like the kid they don't have. Sometimes
people want to enjoy it theyself too, and won't that
And that's what I said child support.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Some people just.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Want it like you know, need for day money, but
really bring it to the kid because that's who really
you know, that's who really needed at the end, that's
what y'all created together. So if we do a business,
which kids are businesses, you know what I'm saying, because
they can grow up and be the best person. That's
why you gotta put them in colleges and put them
in the right spot in schools, Like it's a business,
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like you gotta take care of it to watch it grow.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
And let it go on its own.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And some people don't look at that because at the
end of the day, it's like that's the most important
thing because we both won't get old and they're gonna
have to live and take care of one of us.
So let's invest it into them and not just me.
I'm not want the money for me. I don't want you.
It's just like be there for the kid and let's
do it together. That's how I feel like. But this
(29:00):
to men to start picking the right women. Let's see
how they think and not just messing people because they
body and how they look.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Has that been an issue before?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
They looking like with the potential what I think it
can be. And you know, so when you picked that
have kids is important.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
That's so good, Marco, because I I rarely hear a
lot of people your age even talking about it in
that way, you know, of like making that better choice
right of like her body ain't gonna raise your baby,
you know, like I know she fine, you know, but
that's not what's going to extel instill those principles in
those values, right yeah yeah. Choosing better yeah yeah. I
(29:45):
mean you talked about in one of your sit downs before,
and this was when we talk about the value of
the woman and what they can help you do and
choosing better. You made a statement that I was like, whoa,
you know, you found out how to love yourself better.
A woman taught you how to love and care for
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yourself better. And you use the example of even bathing
yourself that there was a woman who taught you that
because you didn't get that at home.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, And that's because some people are raised with they
mama and daddy and grandma's and family. So when you
meet somebody that's not having that or love and then
you meet them, you're supposed to learn from them, and
you know, you share it and gain from that. So
when you have a dad that's not around to take
you out a shower, and then your mama that got
four kids and stressed out, she don't have time to
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show you, and then you meet a woman that had
all that and then she shared with you.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
You got to be open to take when you meet people.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I feel like people are so ready to like take
money and sex from people, like just take knowledge sometimes.
Yeah that's good. Yeah, knowledge get you. Yeah, and that's
why I did. I was like Jean, like, you know
where I am investigated like property and I bought my
(31:08):
own house from Like.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I learned a lot, you know from him.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I mean, you know, comedians from Juiceky and Dessi Banks,
Kevin Hart, even your dad.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You learn from people. That's what gets you far.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I just feel like people don't once they graduate from school,
they feel like it's done learning. But you gotta realize
what got you here school and you don't you know.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I love how you you brought up Jane, he's here,
Jean Johnson is here.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
We're gonna bring him up shortly. You.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I want you to tell the story because Desie Banks
is who introduced you to Gene. They built a house.
You bought the house. Yeah, and that was how you
guys got connected, right.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
But I was I was on like got to do
a show with Desi and he put me on stand
up and once I did it, and I seen, like,
you know, I feel good doing it on stage. I like,
let me go figure out how it would go for me,
and it start going good and I was making good
money and you know, well am making good money from
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stand up and I wanted to get somewhere else to live.
And I was talking to Daisy about just paying him
for the house and it was just like he was like,
it don't work like that. You can't just give me money,
like you got to get credited. And I never bought
a house before, so I didn't know. So just that
relationship showed me that credit is important. Also, you know,
(32:28):
credit and relationships, because that's what helped me get the house.
But I was just going in like, let me give
you some money and I pay on it. I don't
really know about all that credit stuff, but that made
me learn, you know, about credit and also like you
know that property of the house. And it was like,
oh wow, it's another side. It's not just about money again.
(32:50):
People just think once you get money, you can get
a lot of money. But if you're not with the
right people are making the right decisions, it's going to
be there.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
So I mean, you're constantly growing and leveling up and
people don't realize, right because I think oftentimes they see
your skits, they see how funny you are, they get
into the awkward silence moment of all your videos, right
and they're not really understanding that you are. You're making
different type of investments and moves in your life right now. Yeah,
(33:23):
so talk about the real estate because this is your
new interest right now.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's something that you people need and it can get
passed down to your kids. So that's just having that relationship.
And when you're having money come in, it's like you
gotta make When you make money, you're supposed to go
make your work for you.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
So and that's what I'm money too.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
When you get money, you start spending it and you
just getting stuff and it's not working for you. You
just doing it the wrong way because you're just giving
it back.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
So if you are doing things and getting laying or
getting restaurants, like that's you're seeing your money work and
that money comes in and you can play with that money,
you know.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, So how long? How long have you been on
this path? Like when did you start?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, I'm still in it because you know, we're like
looking at investment. I'm still understanding it and I'm staying
close to it and like seeing how you know, Jean
get up in the morney and looking at land and like, wow,
this is real. You can buy grass, you know, and
that can make your money, yeah, instead of buying jewelry.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So and it's okay to about drewry. But let get
you know what I'm saying, make that beat the reward.
You're like, damn, I did all this and then now
I deserve it.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, so let that be the reward. Well, here's the
thing about you. You know, you talked about this knowledge
thing and really passing on this knowledge and learning new tools.
You brought Gene with you today because this was something
you wanted to give our audience with. Yeah, is the
knowledge that you were equipping yourself with the knowledge that
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you have. You want them to understand what's possible and
what's available to them.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Right right, because you don't know until like you hear
it and feel it or be next to it.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah. Well, Jeene, I think Gene is ready. Are you
ready to come up?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Jean?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Alrighty, good talking. I could tell. I could tell Gene
was wrecked, but.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
He got his friend. It's so funny because his friend
is the real talker. And Jean say, I'll piggyback off him.
So it's like you gotta put him on the spot.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
So yeah, well you didn't put him on the spot
because this was very unexpected today. So y'all gonna swap
seats and he's gonna come and join us, and then
you'll come back. Jeene Johnson, welcome to the show. You
are the gift that we didn't know we needed today.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Wow, Well I'm happy to be here and thank you
for having me.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I was getting just a little background. You know, I
pride myself on knowing about the people who sitting in
the seat before they sit down. So I was getting
my little, my little five minute elevator pitch from you
about what you got going on. But really wonderful. I
mean eighteen plus years in real estate. Started your career
(36:03):
as a in the real estate field Keller Williams, and
then have moved on since then to development and now
you build houses. I do come out on black Man
building houses. And so that was how you met Marco.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Yes, yeah, yep, so Desie banks Is he's been investing
in five years with me, and you know, we've been
doing a lot of new construction throughout Atlanta. And you know,
DESI called me one day and say, hey, Marco wants
to see a house he's interested in buying. And it
was funny because he was telling the story like when
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he first when I first met him, he thought he
could give give us some money, But it doesn't work
like that. So he went through the process of talking
to a lender, you know, fixing some stuff on his credit,
and became a homeowner. Because in America still to this day,
like most people, you know, biggest.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Wealth is their property.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
You know, if you look at values ten years ago,
twenty years ago, and if you look at values ten
to fifteen or twenty years from now, values are going
to always go up. There will be times in the
market where it dips, but real estate has always been
a great investment. And like when we was growing up,
our grandparents used to own their homes. Yeah, and somewhere
(37:21):
down the line, like people stop owning homes, and like
we got to get back to educating people like you.
Hear a lot of talk about financial literacy, but we
just need basic real estate literacy in this country, because
if you understand the value of that house and what
it can do for you, then you can make better decisions.
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You know, a lot of people talk about gentrification. In
some ways, it does affect certain people, primarily renters. But
if we're educated about it, like, we can make better
decisions because they can't buy what we don't sell yea,
and a lot of times, you know, they might say
(38:05):
a Grandma house for one hundred thousand or fifty thousand,
but the value could be a lot more if you renovated,
tear down and build something back.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I mean, I want you to talk to I mean, really,
Marco's audience is a younger demo. You know, you're dealing
with a lot of gen z ers, right who are
not even in the thought of buying a home. But
if you were to talk to them, and this is
the twenty something, right, what would be the first thing
that you would tell them to do.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
I would tell them to talk to a mortgage broker
to understand what they need to do to qualify for
a loan and see what their payments could be. There
are a lot of programs out there, specifically FHA loans
where you can get a house with three and a
half percent down and single family goes up to four
(38:59):
units now, so if you can find a duplex or
quadruplex or even a triplex, they can take the income
from the other property, the rent value and qualify you
for that.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Well, then hold on, hold on, missus Johnson.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I'm talking about Now we have somebody like Marco who says,
I done got this money, I got money, I want
to do something. I'm gonna they come to us say
I'm gonna just pay you. I'm gonna just pay you here,
I'm gonna throw you to cash. We'll figure that out.
I want you to talk to that person right who
has no idea what a mortgage broker is, who does
(39:38):
not know who, They don't even know where do I
go find one of them? Like they on Instagram? Like
where I go find it on TikTok?
Speaker 4 (39:46):
You know?
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Well, I would say start with a report relator, because
most relators are gonna know a good loan officer that
you can talk with. You know, you can go into
the bank, but I don't think the banks always have
the best loan products out there. I think trying to
find a relator that can connect you with a good
mortgage broker is probably the best way to go, you know,
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because you can apply online and you just never know
what you're getting. So building that relationship or going into
like a Keller Williams or a real estate company, you know,
getting you an agent that can help you get in
front of the right loan officer or a lender to
prequalify you, and just getting prequalified even if you don't
have your credit right, it's a good idea to still
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talk to them to understand what you may have to
fix and what you may have to say to be
able to get to the point where you can purchase.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Okay, So in this climate that we're in right now,
lowest possible credit score for someone to go in and
buy their home for the first time.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
So I just talked to my lender yesterday because I
have a house that I'm listing for two fifteen in Riverdale.
He has a loan program with credit scores starting at
five eighty.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Five Ady credit score can get you your first home.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Yes, now, I don't know all the other little nuances
with that five eighty, but you can have a minimum
of a five ADY credit score. And when I list
the property, I'm going to be offering six and a half,
well six percent to the to the buyer, so they
can almost come in with a little to no money
to get into that property.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
All right, So for that two hundred and fifteen thousand
dollars home. What would be the base income for someone
that they would have to be making to be able
to qualify for that home?
Speaker 6 (41:37):
That I don't know, okay, And the reason I don't
know is because it goes by your debt to income ratio.
You know what other expenses you have. But again, you know,
talking to a good mortgage person or talking to a
good relator to connect you. And there are so many
different lenders out there, and they all have different programs.
(41:59):
So the lender that might work for me maybe different
from somebody else based on their credit history, based on
their income, based on where they're at in the country.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
So it's just good to have a realator that can
connect you with a mortgage broker that can point you
in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
So as a developer, and you've been developing many styles
of properties, all residential and now you're even moving into
the tiny home phase of building, what gets you excited
about people like a Desi Banks and a Marco who
have these platforms, who are young, who kind of have
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their pulse on the culture. What excites you most about
working with people like that?
Speaker 6 (42:44):
I think the outreach and the people that we can
reach and just education because it all starts and ends
with education, you know. And like you can leave your
kids all the money, you could leave your kids houses,
but if they're not educated how to maintain and keep that,
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then they're going to lose it. Yeah, you know, So
it just starts with the education. And we try to
meet people, you know, where they are. You know, we
have a YouTube and then we do have classes and
I actually teach people how to build. And I didn't
get into the space, you know, thinking I would teach.
It just kind of happened because over the last you know,
fifteen years, I've just been posting and people would always
(43:31):
reach out to me and say, hey, I.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Want to learn, I want to learn, I want to learn.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
And during the pandemic, we actually launched a school called
Building Builders Academy.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Build and Builders Academy.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Building Builders Academy.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Building Builders Academy.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Yes, at Building Builders Academy, we teach people how to
fine land, how to get the money, and the process
to build. And that goes back to the education because
most people think they need a lot of money to
get into the space, but you really don't. You just
need the education piece. Because there are different type of
loans for your personal house. And there are different type
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of loans if you want to do an investment property
because most investment loans that we get, whether we're binding
and building, their asset based loans, so they're lending us
more on the asset versus you know, our credit and
all the other stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Okay, So if people want to join the Building Builders Academy,
what would they need to do.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
They would need to go to buildingbuilders Academy dot com.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
And they will find all the information.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
They can find all the information there.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Well, mister Johnson, thank you so much for joining us
for this educational segment. Listen, we weren't expecting this today,
but look at that. Here we go. Thank you for
joining us. How you feeling good? You feel good? Okay,
thank you for sharing mister Johnson with us today.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
I appreciate you still learning too.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
I know.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I love that though.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I think what makes you so special is the fact
that while you're still learning, you're willing to share what
you know and the process with everybody else.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, and sometimes people's I feel like they make it.
It's it's unbelievable. So I feel like some people don't
take the knowledge because they always think sometimes when people
give you something, they want.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Something, yeah, and you don't want anything from it.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
No, for you to just share with the next person.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, So as we begin to close out in this segment,
I think people are gonna see you in a totally
different light in this interview.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, were you expecting that?
Speaker 4 (45:31):
No, I'll just go in and just don't really play nothing.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
You don't really plan. It's a part of going with
the flow.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
But also who you sit down with, so I know,
like you and what you really you know, you sit
down with who you interested in. So that is a
plan where you know, you know what world you're going to,
so I know the world that you really care you
want to know information.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yeah, I knew that, but I really don't say how
I'm gonna respond. I just do me.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I was I was like, oh, I think he might
give me the the blank stare off.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
You know, I thought I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Happen sometimes when I'm thinking of what the next thing
I want to say to them.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
So that's what the blank stare off is usually, Like
you're thinking of the next thing. Yeah, I mean it
is very unique to you though, Yeah, how are you
going to evolve this idea.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
How are you going to evolve this concept because.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
You do stand up and you said that was a
thing that really excites you right now, right, So what
can people expect when they come to see you on tour?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I was just letting them know more about me, and
I shared just my story about my mom and daddy,
school and just just the why is it funny to me?
Like I feel like pain is funny to me. So
and that's just, you know, my thing because it's supposed
to happen, like when you live in real life, you're
gonna have pain.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Yeah, and when you laugh at it, it's just kind
of it's the medicine for a pain. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I mean I saw your your tattoos on your lig
You got red fox.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
On your leg, Yeah, tattooed on you. Is that how
you kind of mimic your comedic style to that.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Of just watching them? You know?
Speaker 2 (47:16):
So a lot of great comedics from you know that
are now Unlike I told you that has a big
impact on my story in life because I watched them
every morning. They stopped doing it, but the motivation speaks
that he does, yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
They you know, it's for the radio, for the morning show.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
And not that one that's the TV the TV show.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, okay, the.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
TV that one, that's the one.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
So just hearing those stories and just hearing you know,
people that actually made it. It's a beautiful thing. And
it's just you know, and I think that I just
came up with. And I feel like people won't clapse,
but they don't want to clap for others.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
You know, I feel like claps, but they don't want
to clap for others.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yeah, so you got to be able to clap for
people to receive claps.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, who excites you right now? When you
look at your peers, when you look at other comedians
in the space, who's exciting you right now?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
I say, everybody that's chasing their dreams. So it's not
about how far you are, how much money you got,
our followers, so just to see and it's a lot
of people I get on Instagram and I become a
fan of them and then they keep going to elevating.
It's just like, you know, I'm happy for them. Yeah,
And you know, women guys that just own their thing
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and women that also make transferred because I feel like
it's hard for women nowadays, you know, So women that
are actually making business moves and you know, make opening
the doors to show other women that it's still alive,
that you can grind and you don't have to you know,
get a man with money, but you can become the
man with the money.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
You can become the man with the money.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I mean, there is there somebody that you still want
to work with that is out there that you're like,
he or she is on my bucket list.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Of people.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
Because I feel like he shares like you know.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, yeah, his style I think with very much, so
compliment yours. Yeah, okay, Adam Sandler. It's so funny because
when Pretty V said in the spot, I said, I
don't think that people will really know. She's like such
a big Jim Carrey fan, Like that's her.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I really love her. She pray and she's seen your prayers.
She does.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I get a prayer from Pretty V every now and again.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
I get a nice little Bible verse, a little motivation
or something from from V every now.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yeah. No, she's a great person.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yeah. Oh so that's so good.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
I mean I think sometimes when we look at especially
black comedians and especially the younger generation, we kind of
think like, oh, they're always gonna pick a black icon,
one of the black legends.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
And it's always like, huh, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
You know when we look at B pretty V saying
a Jim Carrey, you seeing Adam Sandler.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
But it makes sense because if you watch, you.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Got yeah, we got a lot we can name.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
So when you just see like a unique style, I'm
gonna take it and bring it back home. That's just
what it's like, you know with you know, every culture
got something that they're good at and great at, and
you you know, when you're part of it, like bring
it back home, bring it back to the family. And
that's why I said, what you bring it back home?
And we got to learn that from each and another.
That's why I don't judge or I don't you know,
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going like oh this in certain races, because I feel
like you're gonna learn from everybody. But you just got
to bring it back home because we are black. And
when we bring it back, it's like you become a legend,
you know, like your dad Kevin Hart, like they've been
in the rooms with you know, the other side, but
they bring.
Speaker 4 (50:40):
It back home.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
So and it's staying in it's legends and you know.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
Yah for us.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Do you do you understand the impact that you're having
on the culture or is that something you even you
don't even think about it.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
No, I don't understand it yet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
I mean I think this Internet day and age of
content creation's changing what the celebrity looks like.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
You know, I've had David Shan's on the show and
he said the podcasters are gonna be the new celebrities, right, because.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
When you think of people, the streamers are the new celebrities.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
The streamers are the new celebrities. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
And that's with you know, changing and doing new things
and showing like, you know, real love. And then streamers
are getting love because they actually can see how they
act and what they're doing, and they can see it
in real time.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
It's not an edit, that's it.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
It's not an edit.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yeah, it's a real life time. So when you can
watch it's like a TV show. When you can watch
something and it becomes like reality, it's like you'll love
it more.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
So if somebody got to live with you in real
time versus you know, through recording, they gonna get a difference.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Yeah, they don't see me in a whole different light. Yeah,
because they're gonna know, oh she cuts a lot off.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
Yeah. Yeah, you have the custom community.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Like.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
I'm gonna have a custom community might bind you.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
And that's w I say.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Car is really big because you get to see how
he is in real time. Yeah, and he's like setting
you know, setting up a door for and he's helping
the younger kids and people are there in school that's
watching him. You don't have to break in cars, you
don't have to work in nine to five. Just sit
in front of the computer and you can be you
and make a lot of money and get back to
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your friends.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
If you could tell your younger self anything, what would
you tell them?
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Because I feel like everything I went through I needed
to go through it to make me who I am
right now. So I mean somebody asked me the same
questions about mistakes, and I said, I need mistakes to
get where I'm at. So I mean other than that, well,
I would say use a condo, that's all.
Speaker 4 (52:55):
That.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
That would be a thing.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
But my kids are great, and then it's like, would
I do that again?
Speaker 1 (53:01):
It's like, you know, I mean that's a real I
love that. Use a condom Yeah yeah, mm hmm. That's
that's a real lie point that we need to go
ahead and drive home. Yeah, use a condom. That's a
real point. Thank you for that. That's a that's after
school special right there. Yeah, listen, use the condom.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
So as we begin to close out, one word you
are committed to in this season.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Of your life?
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Mm hmm. Mindset?
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Mindset?
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Why because if you don't have a mindset, you don't
have nothing. So your mind is everything, and you know,
and that's why it's such thing as you know when
coma like when you can't think or you can't do,
your body's there, but if your mind is not working,
you're not alive. Yeah, So your mindset is something that
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gets you far I think and the idea or get
you rich.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Mindset, Marco, it has been a pleasure. You have totally
surprised me today. You got the wild card for today.
I was not expecting what you bought to this seat today.
Thank you so much. Thank you bought them power socks.
Another good one for the books. Be sure to share
this with someone who needs to elevate their mindset in
the season of their life.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
Until next time, I'm your girl.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
Brandy Harvey eat Well, give a damn move your body
every single day.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
Peace,
I mean, your mom was a very pivotal role, played
a very pivotal role in your in your life, but
there was a lot of things that you said you
didn't learn from her because she was so busy trying
to take care of everyone that there was a lot
of things that you missed in that nurturing of a woman.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You can get stuck in a system where so many
stuff is passed down from your grandma, and it passed
down to your mama, and then your mama passed it
down to youth.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
There's so much that comes up when we talk about
your family.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's a lot when you live in that's what part
of living is. And when you die, you're gone. You
can't talk about it no more. So while you're here,
it's okay to share your emotion. I'm a person that
never really think about money because money is a dark place.
I appreciate it because it gets me to the next level.
They take it and made it a evil, you know
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what I'm saying, object and doing whatever to get it.
And once you find your talent in the world and
you feel good what you're doing, you deserve the money.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Even mentioned you know, when you talked about the money
mentioned your father.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
He said that he was killed over money.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So how has faith kind of shaped your journey with
all the things that have happened to you.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, I was not expected.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Some people are just fucking when you just in the
system of you gotta get money, it's kind of like
when you raise your mama. Just seeing you out like
get a job. You don't really get to be like, go,
what's your talent?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
What you want to do? Welcome to vaught Empower's Talk.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So we don't just scratch the surface, we dive deep
into the lives of some of the world's most influential
change makers. I'm your host, Brandy Harvey. Now today we
got a good one. I think he might try to
throw me off my game a little bit. Marco Summers
is a comedic disruptor, digital sensation, and master of the
awkward moment, with over five followers and viral interviews that
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have had Kevin Hart, Nicki Minaj, and Lil Yachti hilariously
off balance. He's carved out a lane in the entertainment
industry that is entirely his own. Was started with Instagram skits,
quickly evolved into a full blown comedy career, national tours,
and headline making interviews that have redefined how we see
celebrity culture now. He's the host of Open Thoughts and
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has created original content for Bleacher Report and Netflix campaigns,
all while keeping his style raw, real and unpredictable. Bond
in Power's Talks Welcome father, comedian and content creator Marco
Summers to the show.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
That was a lot that you did all that.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Listen, I told Marco before I said, listen, what am
I gonna get? Am I gonna get the persona of Marco?
Am I gonna get Marco Summer's funny Marco?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Listen. It's gonna be a mix of everything.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, depends on today. I thought today was one day.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Today is Thursday. It's a Thursday. It's a Thursday. But
that's okay. I mean, you are so busy. You maintain
quite the quick career. I mean I literally just saw
your Twitch stream of a pool party with quite a
few ladies over at the house. You know, you had
BT weekend, you know, so you stay pretty busy.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I feel like everybody's busy, like you know, yeah,
like when you're doing something, like life is just you know,
like it's just always going like it's always going.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, but you have people that help
keep you in line. Yeah right, yeah, so you don't
have to be so mindful of all the all the
things in your schedule.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Right, y'all.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Definitely getting help with organization, because that's something I was
never good at.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I mean, you said this, Marco, you said, look, I'm
not a very organized person. You said that when you
sat down and you say you you said, I seem
to be a very.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Organized routine lady.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, you said you could tell by my jewelry.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, how you got it? How long does it take
you to put it on?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's real quick. It's just a one two, one two,
and then slap these on.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
And I'm good, let's don't sing quick.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So that's they take loose, like two minutes probably, and
then you got to see how you want to wear it, right.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
No, I stacked them up and then I slided all
of these on at one time, and then these are separate,
and then I put those one kind of booking them.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But is it something that you've seen happening, like you
built it up like as you're getting pieced by piece
and then or like that was the whole goal, I
need all of them and wear them.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, I didn't always wear this many, but I went
to India and I got some of these when I
was in India, and they are just not afraid to
wear all the jewelry, right, And I was like, you
know what, I'm not inspired. Yeah, you know, I'm not
gonna be afraid to put put on my shit on.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
You know, that's it. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I was literally on the elevator, old white lady.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So that she got on she said, oh my god,
look at your bracelets.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
So I was like, where'd you get those from? I
said India. She was like, oh, well, I mean pretty
far to go to get bracelets. So I said, well,
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
India, Like was it real nice?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
It was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So I went there to meditate with eighty thousand people.
So I meditated with eighty thousand people. A man named
Dodgy who came on the show. He leaves the Heartfulness
movement of meditation, and he invited me to his ben Dhari,
which is his birthday in September, and I went.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So it's like a.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Celebration for their masters who have been in the practice
of heartfulness, and so it culminates around his birthday and
so they celebrate him and then they have the largest
astrom in the world.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
So you keep using these words. I know that sounds
like some food.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So it's like a meditation. Hall Okay, like a meditation.
Use that word will, Okay, I'm gonna keep it, keep it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
But it's always good to learn new words. That's why
it's always.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yes, you are a very smart man.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Here's what I know about comedians because my father's comedian.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Comedians are very smart people.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, in their own way. But in school we probably
wasn't that.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I mean, you've been very vocal. You've talked about how
you grew up with ADHD. You grew up with dyslexia,
and so that made it really difficult while you were
in school.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, and it's hard to get help with that, it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Seems really Why do you say that?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Because they said you got to go to a psychiatrist
to get help.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Because people say, take I forget what it's called, okay,
to help you focus.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, but you get prescribed by a doctor and then
they like, go see a psychiatrist.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Went to see a psychiatrist.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And when I took the test, I didn't pass it,
and they said, I need to focus, and I'm like,
that's why I'm here. So when they said, well you
have to go somewhere else, they sent me somewhere else
and all that, I'm okay, it's good.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You good.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So it made learning very difficult for you and understanding
things along your along your journey. Yeah yeah, but I'm
sure that that has probably lent itself into how you
show up in how you create skits, because that's where
you got your start.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, thinking and going.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And I was just telling my friend that I'm just
a person that deal with consequences later. But I'm gonna
do what I gotta do what's in front of me,
and I deal with the after effect. How big the
consequences are, let me know if I want to keep
doing it?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah, how big the consequences are?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah? Good or bad?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
So interesting?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
So have you found some consequences since you've been doing
this form of comedy?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
A lot of stuff you learn from so good and bad.
So I feel like I really enjoyed it bad more
than good because once I learned bad, I I understand,
you know what I'm saying, it more and I appreciate
the good when it comes.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, So what's good what's happening right now? Because I
recently saw you. We talked about this off camera. You
said years ago you bought the equipment to do twitch. Right,
you bought the equipment, you already had it, but it
wasn't something that you really leaned into because you were YouTube.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
It was just me all over the place.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
So it was like I bought it and then I
physically was in and out of it, and my friends
was telling me, you gotta keep going, like you know,
like it's something that's good because I'm good with I
shared my energy, you know, a lot, so I don't
really like keep it to myself. So being able to
do it on the internet and do it, you know,
offline and online, it's something that you know.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
People are skilled for. Yeah, you do it so much.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You enjoy the money that when it comes because you're
naturally getting paid for what you what God gives you.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I mean, it just feels like it's so I used
this word earlier, you said, don't use this word, but
it just feels very intrusive, like it's all of your business,
all the time of me. It's in your house, like
you literally had the camera set up. You see the
people walking around the back, you know, all of that.
I would just be too scared to do.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That, Marco.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, and that's what it's consequences like you know. So
with that being said, I really don't I don't want
to really live.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
They say like.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Businesses, Like when you use that word, it's something ownership,
you know what I'm saying. So I really don't own Earth.
I just own what I gotta do. So I really
don't keep I just.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Marco.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I have never heard anybody say that that is the
best line of the season.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I don't really own Earth.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah yeah, I really don't.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah yeah, look into me like like this is nothing
is personal to me, Like social Security cards, Like that's personal,
Like debit cards, that's something I don't want to show.
But if I'm living and people can see it, it's
like you know, like and taking a shower, that's personal,
Like it'sert That's why bathrooms is a closed door. But
if it's open, it's like I don't really have nothing private. Yeah,
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I'm not a private person, but side stuff you gotta
be private with which the world no, like close the
door when use the bathroom, Like, don't share your social
Security card?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You know, what I'm saying, don't get it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Stuff like that is all right, common sense, But when
my life is like you should know who I'm dating.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
You should know who I'm like. You should know if
I'm sad or happy.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Really, you should know who you're dating. You that's how
you're sad or happy.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah? Wow, I mean that's why when you're living, that's
what part of living is.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And when you die, you're gone. You can't talk about
it no more so while you're here. Just it's okay
to share your emotions. That's why it's such a thing
as people miss you when you die because they know
about you.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
But if you're keeping everything to yourself, how will people
know you are a mission?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I mean, I think that that's speaks to this new
generation of creators right where I recently read this article
talking about the mystique of the celebrity is gone. And
then Jada and I, who's on my team, we were
talking about this. She said yesterday in pre production, Beyonce
is the last celebrity really right, because she doesn't share
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these very private moments of her life. You only get
a sneak peak. You're going to get a snapshot. And
so your generation is very much. We share it.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
All, not everybody. I don't really think it. It's about generation.
It's about how you feel comfortable with your life and
if you don't overthink it.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
And that's like with your dad. He is part of
my career.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I watched a lot of his stories where he's share
he was homeless about the fishing, like you know him
fishing and the dude calling him and wake him up.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
His motivation speaks helped me out a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
So that's why some people need motivation, because people share
what they've been through.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
So even he did it, so I wouldn't say his generation.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's about what you're okay with dealing with when you
put this out or you're dealing or you're ready to
deal with what people got to say about.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
What you're doing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So some people don't want to hear people opinion, so
they keep it to theirself. Yeah, So if you really
kind of like, I don't care what you want to
you know what I'm saying, Like, and I just feel
like when people say what they want to say, you
got to get ready for people to say, oh wow,
like Nelly if he support Trump, He supports Trump.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Like, I don't care. I don't have an input on
what you're doing with your life.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I just feel like people are so in other people's
business they stop worrying about their business. Yeah, so you
know what I'm saying. It's like, if you agree with it,
you agree with If you don't, you don't.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I mean, I think that that is that level of
mystery and mystique that we really don't have in this culture,
right because we're on our phones twenty four seven, we got,
you know, streaming twenty four to seven. I mean even
you know you mentioned your friend Kysanot before we even
got started with He has streamers University. Now he's teaching
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people how to really leverage this. I mean, was that
something that you were like, this is a part of
the sharing of the content, or this is like I
gotta follow the money because the money is leading me
to share in this way.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Really, I'm a person I never really think about money
because money is a dark place. I appreciate it because
it gets me to the next level. But when you
come from like people dying over it and my day
he got killed over money, and from theod people stealing
and robbing, breaking it up for money, it's like a
they take it and made it a evil. You know
what I'm saying, object and doing whatever to get it.
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And once you find your talent in the world and
you feel good what you're doing, you deserve the money.
So once you find your real talent and you wake
up and you're happy with what you're doing, the money
is reward. And once you like rewards is something that
you've been getting. Sense a kid, you'd be good, You
get a cookie, you do this that, and then people
got understand you get money, that's a reward. But people
are skipping what they want, what they need to do
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to get to it. I don't want to skip, you
know what I'm saying, like what I'm good at because
I feel like if like Lebron James, he was just
good at playing basketball and his reward is a billionaire
most but he deserved it because he had a talent. Yeah,
like you said, Beyonce, she's good at singing and the
talent is the reward of money. So when she found
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your talent, money is there money? Anybody can get money?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, I love that. She said.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You don't want to skip what you're good at. Yeah,
you don't want to skip it. Yeah, So there are
other things that you want to do that I think
people may have pigeonholed you and put you in a
box of being funny Marco. Right, And I recently saw
you were on an interview and you said, look, I'm
thirty now, Like I don't want to just be funny Marco.
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I'm Marco Summers and so where are you where are
your talents kind of pushing you that you're.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Not skipping in the season?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Break that down?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Okay, So so you have other interest right, you have
other things that you want to do besides making people laugh.
You know, I recently saw that you were into R
and B and you eventually might want to take that route.
So what are some other areas that people may not
be familiar with you?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I might have just caring about people. It's just caring
about That's fuck.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
When you're a good person and you and you share good,
you're gonna receive good. So I feel like, as much
as bad going on, once you realize I need to
be a part of the good, just staying with them
and you just gonna receive it. So helping people get
to the next level, and that's something that makes me
feel good. When I can give like a friend, like
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advice or let them in a roma, people that they
never thought they'd being a room with, and then they
take it and run with it.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
It makes me feel good.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
So just seeing people doing good makes you feel good
because you know what I'm saying, Like God is watching you.
You know what you're doing. So at the end of
the day, we got to go somewhere. That's the most
important job in place.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
So okay, So I mean, faith obviously is a very
important part of your journey. You even mentioned, you know,
when you talked about the money, you mentioned your father.
He said that he was killed over money. So how
has faith kind of shaped your journey with all the
things that have happened to you? Because if you're dealing
with death, you're dealing with people who are dying behind money,
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You're dealing with all these different setbacks.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I don't know, Well, I was not expected that, Nigga
mean either.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I was not expecting that it's right by your seat,
I would say, I did not, Marko.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Honestly, I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
It's a good clip.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
What's bringing up that emotion for you? Dimension of your father?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
A little bit? I ain't crying like in some years.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You know, Marco, I would have never even thought, wouldn't
have been a thought, yeah, that we would even see this.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Side of you.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
It's not really a side everybody do it. It's yeah,
you know, it might be musty.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah all right, I mean that's just that's a touchy subject.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
When you people are just you know, some people are
just fucking When you just in the system of you
gotta get money, it's kind of like when you raise
your mama just sending you out like get a job.
You don't really get to be like, oh, what's your talent,
what you want to do? So it's like a place
where you set up like that, you know, so when
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you just think it it's all about money, you really
don't think about what I can do. So when people
have a passion and you know what makes you feel good,
you don't really have nobody training.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
You to set you up for that.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And that's why I said, when you do find that's
the most beautifult thing. When you know what you want
to do, you just got to like do it. But
I feel like people are just stuck on, you know, money,
like because that's all we raised, Like go get your job,
not go get your talent.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You know what I'm saying, was it hard in navigating
this journey because your father wasn't there because he was
taking so soon.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I wouldn't say it's hard because I don't know how
it was if he was there or not. So you
can't say it was hard because I got never got
to experience both sides.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
So he was never in your life.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It was back if he was in jail, back and forth.
I'm saying, living the street life. But I can't say
it was hard because I don't know what it was
like with him or without him.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
All I know is one experience, So.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I can't say it was hard because what if he
was there and it was the same thing. So I
can't really speak on something that you haven't experienced both
sides on.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, in my well, that's how I feel.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I mean, your mom was a very pivotal role, played
a very pivotal role in your in your life, but
there was a lot of things that you said you
didn't learn from her because she was so busy trying
to take care of everyone that there was a lot
of things that you missed in that nurturing of a woman.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, but yeah, that's part of it. She was just
more just.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Like I told people, like in my child And that's
one thing with twitch. I'm build in a community where
it's a you can get stuck in the system where
some of the stuff is passed down from your grandma
and it passed down to your mama, and then your
mama passed it down to you, and it's a system.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
It's like you see.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Your mama, see her mama getting food stamps in section eight,
and then she get older and have us and get
food stamps in section eight and then she has me
and my sister, and my sister see my mama will
getting food, sam say, and then.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
She get it and then her kids. So you just
gotta break the tree.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So when you come from all this is normal, you
just feel like this is what it is. But once
you start trying to go figure out like it's born
in life and you actually got one time to live
it's a grateful thing, and you start to see like,
oh wow, it's more over here than just what we've
been seeing down the line.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I mean you're doing things that I know are breaking
so many different patterns in your family. I mean, you
grew up in Kansas City, right, Kansas City, Missouri, so Midwest,
not the safest place in the world.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Right, I feel like the world's not safe, but we
gotta live in it, you know. And that's why you
gotta do good while you're here.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, doing good while you're here. I mean, there are
so many young people that watch you and they are
looking to you as this example, and you are trying
to create this momentum of doing good in the world.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
What would you tell a.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Little black boy who is growing up in one of
these not so kind, not so nice cities in America
where they don't feel seen, they got dyslexia, got ADHD,
not feeling like they're a part of the learning experience,
what would.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You tell them?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Finding your talent if it's something that you feel good doing,
like chase it from basketball, from you know, singing, rapping,
you know a doctor, Like if you feel good and
you want to wake up doing that every day, it's
possible to make millions of dollars off that then just
doing the route that you used to seeing.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
So really, if finding.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Out what I want to do, what could I do
waking up every morning?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
It makes me feel good?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, And once you do that every day, you're gonna
you know, you're gonna stand out. Everybody came from a
small place, you know. Lebron James came from Cleveland, you know,
look at them right, and Cleveland is like, you know
this not the you know. And Davonte Davis from Baltimore.
So everybody is from a place where it's being hard
to be so it's possible to make it.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Yeah, I just felt you once you.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Know, you got a talent, developed the talent, and you
know understand that money gonna come.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
When did you know you had something different? Because you
were doing these skits, you found this lane on the
internet that really nobody was doing this until you came along.
There have been some copycats since you started, But when
did you find it that the thing hit that it clicked.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And just when you live in your life you really
don't looking black. I got this because then that's when
you can kind of get your own ego.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I don't really just like oh yeah this and that,
but just being able to share like good energy, Like
I realized I got that because I see so much
bad energy. So I realized that that I really care
about people.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, I mean there's been a whole shift in you
though over and especially I met Ireland and she is
a beautiful little girl.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, she's really cool.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
There's so much that comes up when we talk about
your family.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, what do you feel is a lot?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Just different emotions, that's it. Yeah, but it's good. It's
like a good Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
What emotions come up when you think about your daughter?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
M This is me trying, that's all.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, trying to be a better person, trying to be
a better man, all of the things. Yeah, she brings
out something that you've never experienced before in your life.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, that's my dog, that's your dog. Yeah, all of them.
I got three kids, so I really just enjoy your mouth.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Oh wow. Okay, so now how old are your other children?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Prize is about to turn one June sixteenth, and millions twelve.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yes, okay, you got different ages and stages right now.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I mean, so this is really stretching you in this season,
and you are not you know, you're still really young,
relatively young.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Thirty years old.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, I'm thirty one.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'll be forgetting thirty one my birthday June nineteenth, Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Or I think I'm thirty two. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It's okay, yeah, the Internet. I'll let us know how
old you are.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah. Yeah. They're so busy with life.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah yeah, I mean, so what are they teaching you
besides you know, making you trying.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You're trying to be a better person, better.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Father, better Just example, I mean, when you when you
leave something for your kids to go back and look at,
that's grateful to have that the internet and pictures that
they'll be able to look at it. I'll go back
and look at my daddy. He just loved jail pictures.
So sometimes what you leave is what you show. So
it's just like I've seen that route of you know,
being like my daddy was known as a real nigga.
(25:44):
But that's what all his homies tell you. But they
don't be there for you, so you know what I'm saying.
So really living for the streets and being real to
them don't really affect your kids.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Once you're dead or gone.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, you got to be present to them and not
just to your friends, you know what I'm saying, Like
girls and stuff, because they tell you their experience of
your dad, but if you don't have it, it really
don't matter.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I mean, that is such a good point that you
just said, And I don't think I've ever looked at
it like that. You said, leaving them something to look at. Yeah,
all your dad left you was jail pictures. But you
were leaving them something a body of work for them
to go look at.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I don't think I've ever thought about it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Even when I think about my own dad, I haven't
really put it into that perspective of he's given me
something to go look at, you know, and he's given
me a lot to go look at me too. Yeah,
that's really good. I mean I can only imagine how
difficult it can be though, you know, even with co parenting,
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because you've talked about that before that co parenting can be.
It comes with challenges though, in raising these children. What
has been one of the challenges that you've seen, Oh.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
We was just somebody not seeing the good in you,
like and you care about them even though, so just
them not seeing you giving them the best you can.
So I feel like, you know, as men and women,
we got to look at it like they are doing
the best, and you're like, sometimes they realize that when
you're gone, like oh wow, he really did try, or
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they realize that once they get another father or another comparison.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
So sometimes people.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Need to get somebody bad to know all that's good.
And that's why I say sometimes people need bad to
understand good.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So what has been one of those challenges for you
as like traveling and doing all these things.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Is it spending the time, making.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
The time, not just bringing it back home to them? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I feel like even with my child's mother, I still
want to support them and promote their brands and help them,
like we ain't got to be together, but just overall
comes back to the kids. So that's how I think
it's come back home. And some you know my experience,
some women don't think like that, like just bring it
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back home to like the kid they don't have. Sometimes
people want to enjoy it theyself too, and won't that
And that's what I said child support.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Some people just.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Want it like you know, need for day money, but
really bring it to the kid because that's who really
you know, that's who really needed at the end, that's
what y'all created together. So if we do a business,
which kids are businesses, you know what I'm saying, because
they can grow up and be the best person. That's
why you gotta put them in colleges and put them
in the right spot in schools, Like it's a business,
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like you gotta take care of it to watch it grow.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
And let it go on its own.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And some people don't look at that because at the
end of the day, it's like that's the most important
thing because we both won't get old and they're gonna
have to live and take care of one of us.
So let's invest it into them and not just me.
I'm not want the money for me. I don't want you.
It's just like be there for the kid and let's
do it together. That's how I feel like. But this
(29:00):
to men to start picking the right women. Let's see
how they think and not just messing people because they
body and how they look.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Has that been an issue before?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
They looking like with the potential what I think it
can be. And you know, so when you picked that
have kids is important.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
That's so good, Marco, because I I rarely hear a
lot of people your age even talking about it in
that way, you know, of like making that better choice
right of like her body ain't gonna raise your baby,
you know, like I know she fine, you know, but
that's not what's going to extel instill those principles in
those values, right yeah yeah. Choosing better yeah yeah. I
(29:45):
mean you talked about in one of your sit downs before,
and this was when we talk about the value of
the woman and what they can help you do and
choosing better. You made a statement that I was like, whoa,
you know, you found out how to love yourself better.
A woman taught you how to love and care for
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yourself better. And you use the example of even bathing
yourself that there was a woman who taught you that
because you didn't get that at home.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, And that's because some people are raised with they
mama and daddy and grandma's and family. So when you
meet somebody that's not having that or love and then
you meet them, you're supposed to learn from them, and
you know, you share it and gain from that. So
when you have a dad that's not around to take
you out a shower, and then your mama that got
four kids and stressed out, she don't have time to
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show you, and then you meet a woman that had
all that and then she shared with you.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
You got to be open to take when you meet people.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I feel like people are so ready to like take
money and sex from people, like just take knowledge sometimes.
Yeah that's good. Yeah, knowledge get you. Yeah, and that's
why I did. I was like Jean, like, you know
where I am investigated like property and I bought my
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own house from Like.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I learned a lot, you know from him.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I mean, you know, comedians from Juiceky and Dessi Banks,
Kevin Hart, even your dad.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
You learn from people. That's what gets you far.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I just feel like people don't once they graduate from school,
they feel like it's done learning. But you gotta realize
what got you here school and you don't you know.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I love how you you brought up Jane, he's here,
Jean Johnson is here.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
We're gonna bring him up shortly. You.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I want you to tell the story because Desie Banks
is who introduced you to Gene. They built a house.
You bought the house. Yeah, and that was how you
guys got connected, right.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
But I was I was on like got to do
a show with Desi and he put me on stand
up and once I did it, and I seen, like,
you know, I feel good doing it on stage. I like,
let me go figure out how it would go for me,
and it start going good and I was making good
money and you know, well am making good money from
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stand up and I wanted to get somewhere else to live.
And I was talking to Daisy about just paying him
for the house and it was just like he was like,
it don't work like that. You can't just give me money,
like you got to get credited. And I never bought
a house before, so I didn't know. So just that
relationship showed me that credit is important. Also, you know,
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credit and relationships, because that's what helped me get the house.
But I was just going in like, let me give
you some money and I pay on it. I don't
really know about all that credit stuff, but that made
me learn, you know, about credit and also like you
know that property of the house. And it was like,
oh wow, it's another side. It's not just about money again.
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People just think once you get money, you can get
a lot of money. But if you're not with the
right people are making the right decisions, it's going to
be there.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
So I mean, you're constantly growing and leveling up and
people don't realize, right because I think oftentimes they see
your skits, they see how funny you are, they get
into the awkward silence moment of all your videos, right
and they're not really understanding that you are. You're making
different type of investments and moves in your life right now. Yeah,
(33:23):
so talk about the real estate because this is your
new interest right now.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's something that you people need and it can get
passed down to your kids. So that's just having that relationship.
And when you're having money come in, it's like you
gotta make When you make money, you're supposed to go
make your work for you.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
So and that's what I'm money too.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
When you get money, you start spending it and you
just getting stuff and it's not working for you. You
just doing it the wrong way because you're just giving
it back.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
So if you are doing things and getting laying or
getting restaurants, like that's you're seeing your money work and
that money comes in and you can play with that money,
you know.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, So how long? How long have you been on
this path? Like when did you start?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, I'm still in it because you know, we're like
looking at investment. I'm still understanding it and I'm staying
close to it and like seeing how you know, Jean
get up in the morney and looking at land and like, wow,
this is real. You can buy grass, you know, and
that can make your money, yeah, instead of buying jewelry.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So and it's okay to about drewry. But let get
you know what I'm saying, make that beat the reward.
You're like, damn, I did all this and then now
I deserve it.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, so let that be the reward. Well, here's the
thing about you. You know, you talked about this knowledge
thing and really passing on this knowledge and learning new tools.
You brought Gene with you today because this was something
you wanted to give our audience with. Yeah, is the
knowledge that you were equipping yourself with the knowledge that
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you have. You want them to understand what's possible and
what's available to them.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Right right, because you don't know until like you hear
it and feel it or be next to it.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah. Well, Jeene, I think Gene is ready. Are you
ready to come up?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Jean?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Alrighty, good talking. I could tell. I could tell Gene
was wrecked, but.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
He got his friend. It's so funny because his friend
is the real talker. And Jean say, I'll piggyback off him.
So it's like you gotta put him on the spot.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
So yeah, well you didn't put him on the spot
because this was very unexpected today. So y'all gonna swap
seats and he's gonna come and join us, and then
you'll come back. Jeene Johnson, welcome to the show. You
are the gift that we didn't know we needed today.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Wow, Well I'm happy to be here and thank you
for having me.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I was getting just a little background. You know, I
pride myself on knowing about the people who sitting in
the seat before they sit down. So I was getting
my little, my little five minute elevator pitch from you
about what you got going on. But really wonderful. I
mean eighteen plus years in real estate. Started your career
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as a in the real estate field Keller Williams, and
then have moved on since then to development and now
you build houses. I do come out on black Man
building houses. And so that was how you met Marco.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Yes, yeah, yep, so Desie banks Is he's been investing
in five years with me, and you know, we've been
doing a lot of new construction throughout Atlanta. And you know,
DESI called me one day and say, hey, Marco wants
to see a house he's interested in buying. And it
was funny because he was telling the story like when
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he first when I first met him, he thought he
could give give us some money, But it doesn't work
like that. So he went through the process of talking
to a lender, you know, fixing some stuff on his credit,
and became a homeowner. Because in America still to this day,
like most people, you know, biggest.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Wealth is their property.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
You know, if you look at values ten years ago,
twenty years ago, and if you look at values ten
to fifteen or twenty years from now, values are going
to always go up. There will be times in the
market where it dips, but real estate has always been
a great investment. And like when we was growing up,
our grandparents used to own their homes. Yeah, and somewhere
(37:21):
down the line, like people stop owning homes, and like
we got to get back to educating people like you.
Hear a lot of talk about financial literacy, but we
just need basic real estate literacy in this country, because
if you understand the value of that house and what
it can do for you, then you can make better decisions.
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You know, a lot of people talk about gentrification. In
some ways, it does affect certain people, primarily renters. But
if we're educated about it, like, we can make better
decisions because they can't buy what we don't sell yea,
and a lot of times, you know, they might say
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a Grandma house for one hundred thousand or fifty thousand,
but the value could be a lot more if you renovated,
tear down and build something back.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I mean, I want you to talk to I mean, really,
Marco's audience is a younger demo. You know, you're dealing
with a lot of gen z ers, right who are
not even in the thought of buying a home. But
if you were to talk to them, and this is
the twenty something, right, what would be the first thing
that you would tell them to do.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
I would tell them to talk to a mortgage broker
to understand what they need to do to qualify for
a loan and see what their payments could be. There
are a lot of programs out there, specifically FHA loans
where you can get a house with three and a
half percent down and single family goes up to four
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units now, so if you can find a duplex or
quadruplex or even a triplex, they can take the income
from the other property, the rent value and qualify you
for that.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Well, then hold on, hold on, missus Johnson.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I'm talking about Now we have somebody like Marco who says,
I done got this money, I got money, I want
to do something. I'm gonna they come to us say
I'm gonna just pay you. I'm gonna just pay you here,
I'm gonna throw you to cash. We'll figure that out.
I want you to talk to that person right who
has no idea what a mortgage broker is, who does
(39:38):
not know who, They don't even know where do I
go find one of them? Like they on Instagram? Like
where I go find it on TikTok?
Speaker 4 (39:46):
You know?
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Well, I would say start with a report relator, because
most relators are gonna know a good loan officer that
you can talk with. You know, you can go into
the bank, but I don't think the banks always have
the best loan products out there. I think trying to
find a relator that can connect you with a good
mortgage broker is probably the best way to go, you know,
(40:09):
because you can apply online and you just never know
what you're getting. So building that relationship or going into
like a Keller Williams or a real estate company, you know,
getting you an agent that can help you get in
front of the right loan officer or a lender to
prequalify you, and just getting prequalified even if you don't
have your credit right, it's a good idea to still
(40:31):
talk to them to understand what you may have to
fix and what you may have to say to be
able to get to the point where you can purchase.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Okay, So in this climate that we're in right now,
lowest possible credit score for someone to go in and
buy their home for the first time.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
So I just talked to my lender yesterday because I
have a house that I'm listing for two fifteen in Riverdale.
He has a loan program with credit scores starting at
five eighty.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Five Ady credit score can get you your first home.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Yes, now, I don't know all the other little nuances
with that five eighty, but you can have a minimum
of a five ADY credit score. And when I list
the property, I'm going to be offering six and a half,
well six percent to the to the buyer, so they
can almost come in with a little to no money
to get into that property.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
All right, So for that two hundred and fifteen thousand
dollars home. What would be the base income for someone
that they would have to be making to be able
to qualify for that home?
Speaker 6 (41:37):
That I don't know, okay, And the reason I don't
know is because it goes by your debt to income ratio.
You know what other expenses you have. But again, you know,
talking to a good mortgage person or talking to a
good relator to connect you. And there are so many
different lenders out there, and they all have different programs.
(41:59):
So the lender that might work for me maybe different
from somebody else based on their credit history, based on
their income, based on where they're at in the country.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
So it's just good to have a realator that can
connect you with a mortgage broker that can point you
in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
So as a developer, and you've been developing many styles
of properties, all residential and now you're even moving into
the tiny home phase of building, what gets you excited
about people like a Desi Banks and a Marco who
have these platforms, who are young, who kind of have
(42:39):
their pulse on the culture. What excites you most about
working with people like that?
Speaker 6 (42:44):
I think the outreach and the people that we can
reach and just education because it all starts and ends
with education, you know. And like you can leave your
kids all the money, you could leave your kids houses,
but if they're not educated how to maintain and keep that,
(43:07):
then they're going to lose it. Yeah, you know, So
it just starts with the education. And we try to
meet people, you know, where they are. You know, we
have a YouTube and then we do have classes and
I actually teach people how to build. And I didn't
get into the space, you know, thinking I would teach.
It just kind of happened because over the last you know,
fifteen years, I've just been posting and people would always
(43:31):
reach out to me and say, hey, I.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Want to learn, I want to learn, I want to learn.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
And during the pandemic, we actually launched a school called
Building Builders Academy.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Build and Builders Academy.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Building Builders Academy.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Building Builders Academy.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Yes, at Building Builders Academy, we teach people how to
fine land, how to get the money, and the process
to build. And that goes back to the education because
most people think they need a lot of money to
get into the space, but you really don't. You just
need the education piece. Because there are different type of
loans for your personal house. And there are different type
(44:08):
of loans if you want to do an investment property
because most investment loans that we get, whether we're binding
and building, their asset based loans, so they're lending us
more on the asset versus you know, our credit and
all the other stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Okay, So if people want to join the Building Builders Academy,
what would they need to do.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
They would need to go to buildingbuilders Academy dot com.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
And they will find all the information.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
They can find all the information there.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Well, mister Johnson, thank you so much for joining us
for this educational segment. Listen, we weren't expecting this today,
but look at that. Here we go. Thank you for
joining us. How you feeling good? You feel good? Okay,
thank you for sharing mister Johnson with us today.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
I appreciate you still learning too.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
I know.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I love that though.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I think what makes you so special is the fact
that while you're still learning, you're willing to share what
you know and the process with everybody else.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, and sometimes people's I feel like they make it.
It's it's unbelievable. So I feel like some people don't
take the knowledge because they always think sometimes when people
give you something, they want.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Something, yeah, and you don't want anything from it.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
No, for you to just share with the next person.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, So as we begin to close out in this segment,
I think people are gonna see you in a totally
different light in this interview.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, were you expecting that?
Speaker 4 (45:31):
No, I'll just go in and just don't really play nothing.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
You don't really plan. It's a part of going with
the flow.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
But also who you sit down with, so I know,
like you and what you really you know, you sit
down with who you interested in. So that is a
plan where you know, you know what world you're going to,
so I know the world that you really care you
want to know information.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yeah, I knew that, but I really don't say how
I'm gonna respond. I just do me.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I was I was like, oh, I think he might
give me the the blank stare off.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
You know, I thought I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Happen sometimes when I'm thinking of what the next thing
I want to say to them.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
So that's what the blank stare off is usually, Like
you're thinking of the next thing. Yeah, I mean it
is very unique to you though, Yeah, how are you
going to evolve this idea.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
How are you going to evolve this concept because.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
You do stand up and you said that was a
thing that really excites you right now, right, So what
can people expect when they come to see you on tour?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I was just letting them know more about me, and
I shared just my story about my mom and daddy,
school and just just the why is it funny to me?
Like I feel like pain is funny to me. So
and that's just, you know, my thing because it's supposed
to happen, like when you live in real life, you're
gonna have pain.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Yeah, and when you laugh at it, it's just kind
of it's the medicine for a pain. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I mean I saw your your tattoos on your lig
You got red fox.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
On your leg, Yeah, tattooed on you. Is that how
you kind of mimic your comedic style to that.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Of just watching them? You know?
Speaker 2 (47:16):
So a lot of great comedics from you know that
are now Unlike I told you that has a big
impact on my story in life because I watched them
every morning. They stopped doing it, but the motivation speaks
that he does, yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
They you know, it's for the radio, for the morning show.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
And not that one that's the TV the TV show.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, okay, the.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
TV that one, that's the one.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
So just hearing those stories and just hearing you know,
people that actually made it. It's a beautiful thing. And
it's just you know, and I think that I just
came up with. And I feel like people won't clapse,
but they don't want to clap for others.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
You know, I feel like claps, but they don't want
to clap for others.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yeah, so you got to be able to clap for
people to receive claps.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, who excites you right now? When you
look at your peers, when you look at other comedians
in the space, who's exciting you right now?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
I say, everybody that's chasing their dreams. So it's not
about how far you are, how much money you got,
our followers, so just to see and it's a lot
of people I get on Instagram and I become a
fan of them and then they keep going to elevating.
It's just like, you know, I'm happy for them. Yeah,
And you know, women guys that just own their thing
(48:28):
and women that also make transferred because I feel like
it's hard for women nowadays, you know, So women that
are actually making business moves and you know, make opening
the doors to show other women that it's still alive,
that you can grind and you don't have to you know,
get a man with money, but you can become the
man with the money.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
You can become the man with the money.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I mean, there is there somebody that you still want
to work with that is out there that you're like,
he or she is on my bucket list.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Of people.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
Because I feel like he shares like you know.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, yeah, his style I think with very much, so
compliment yours. Yeah, okay, Adam Sandler. It's so funny because
when Pretty V said in the spot, I said, I
don't think that people will really know. She's like such
a big Jim Carrey fan, Like that's her.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I really love her. She pray and she's seen your prayers.
She does.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I get a prayer from Pretty V every now and again.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
I get a nice little Bible verse, a little motivation
or something from from V every now.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yeah. No, she's a great person.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yeah. Oh so that's so good.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
I mean I think sometimes when we look at especially
black comedians and especially the younger generation, we kind of
think like, oh, they're always gonna pick a black icon,
one of the black legends.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
And it's always like, huh, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
You know when we look at B pretty V saying
a Jim Carrey, you seeing Adam Sandler.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
But it makes sense because if you watch, you.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Got yeah, we got a lot we can name.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
So when you just see like a unique style, I'm
gonna take it and bring it back home. That's just
what it's like, you know with you know, every culture
got something that they're good at and great at, and
you you know, when you're part of it, like bring
it back home, bring it back to the family. And
that's why I said, what you bring it back home?
And we got to learn that from each and another.
That's why I don't judge or I don't you know,
(50:24):
going like oh this in certain races, because I feel
like you're gonna learn from everybody. But you just got
to bring it back home because we are black. And
when we bring it back, it's like you become a legend,
you know, like your dad Kevin Hart, like they've been
in the rooms with you know, the other side, but
they bring.
Speaker 4 (50:40):
It back home.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
So and it's staying in it's legends and you know.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
Yah for us.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Do you do you understand the impact that you're having
on the culture or is that something you even you
don't even think about it.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
No, I don't understand it yet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
I mean I think this Internet day and age of
content creation's changing what the celebrity looks like.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
You know, I've had David Shan's on the show and
he said the podcasters are gonna be the new celebrities, right, because.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
When you think of people, the streamers are the new celebrities.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
The streamers are the new celebrities. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
And that's with you know, changing and doing new things
and showing like, you know, real love. And then streamers
are getting love because they actually can see how they
act and what they're doing, and they can see it
in real time.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
It's not an edit, that's it.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
It's not an edit.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yeah, it's a real life time. So when you can
watch it's like a TV show. When you can watch
something and it becomes like reality, it's like you'll love
it more.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
So if somebody got to live with you in real
time versus you know, through recording, they gonna get a difference.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Yeah, they don't see me in a whole different light. Yeah,
because they're gonna know, oh she cuts a lot off.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
Yeah. Yeah, you have the custom community.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Like.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
I'm gonna have a custom community might bind you.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
And that's w I say.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Car is really big because you get to see how
he is in real time. Yeah, and he's like setting
you know, setting up a door for and he's helping
the younger kids and people are there in school that's
watching him. You don't have to break in cars, you
don't have to work in nine to five. Just sit
in front of the computer and you can be you
and make a lot of money and get back to
(52:30):
your friends.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
If you could tell your younger self anything, what would
you tell them?
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Because I feel like everything I went through I needed
to go through it to make me who I am
right now. So I mean somebody asked me the same
questions about mistakes, and I said, I need mistakes to
get where I'm at. So I mean other than that, well,
I would say use a condo, that's all.
Speaker 4 (52:55):
That.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
That would be a thing.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
But my kids are great, and then it's like, would
I do that again?
Speaker 1 (53:01):
It's like, you know, I mean that's a real I
love that. Use a condom Yeah yeah, mm hmm. That's
that's a real lie point that we need to go
ahead and drive home. Yeah, use a condom. That's a
real point. Thank you for that. That's a that's after
school special right there. Yeah, listen, use the condom.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
So as we begin to close out, one word you
are committed to in this season.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Of your life?
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Mm hmm. Mindset?
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Mindset?
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Why because if you don't have a mindset, you don't
have nothing. So your mind is everything, and you know,
and that's why it's such thing as you know when
coma like when you can't think or you can't do,
your body's there, but if your mind is not working,
you're not alive. Yeah, So your mindset is something that
(53:55):
gets you far I think and the idea or get
you rich.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Mindset, Marco, it has been a pleasure. You have totally
surprised me today. You got the wild card for today.
I was not expecting what you bought to this seat today.
Thank you so much. Thank you bought them power socks.
Another good one for the books. Be sure to share
this with someone who needs to elevate their mindset in
the season of their life.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
Until next time, I'm your girl.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
Brandy Harvey eat Well, give a damn move your body
every single day.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
Peace,
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