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July 31, 2025 • 61 mins
What does it take to build a media empire rooted in love, legacy, and authenticity? 💡 Ronnie Tyler, co-founder of Black and Married With Kids and Tyler New Media, sits down with Brandi Harvey for a powerful conversation on entrepreneurship, marriage, and leading with vision.From bootstrapping a blog into a national movement to producing films that reshape the Black family narrative, Ronnie shares the hard-won lessons behind building while balancing purpose and partnership.This episode is for every dreamer ready to turn passion into impact—and do it with integrity.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You and your husband launched the blog Black and Married
with Kids, and it takes off and you have five
hundred thousand fans on Facebook and then one million readers.
Now with TSP, over forty eight thousand black entrepreneurs all
around the world. The testimonials that these people are having,

(00:22):
these are six to seven figure business These are people
making multimillion dollar businesses and enterprises, and they have a
safe space to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
We started to go to marketing conferences and we never
saw people that looked like us. It was our mission
to say, we're going to bring this back to our community.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
You all have also had to implement some rules in
doing business as a couple, and you guys had to
create some rules of engagement.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, yeah, a lot of times people go into business
with a spouse that they don't trust. Your spouse is
cheating on you. But you now, you want to use
your four oh one K business. So I see entrepreneurs,
they're in it some weeks, they're out of it some weeks.
Even if you're in business with yourself, get formal, set
out your calendar time block. We never took a month

(01:10):
off of business. Thank God for Lamar. He's not one
of these guys that's out here saying I don't want.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
A woman with kid Listen, they out here. Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Lamar is living his whole seven figure life. And Okay,
I had two kids when we met.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Okay, so how did you meet Lamar? Because there's somebody
who's out there saying, well, I got two kids. What
is the one thing you tell those entrepreneurs to get out.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Of their own way? Welcome to Vaughtenpowers Talk.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
So we don't just gratch the surface, we dive deep
into the lives of some of the world's most influential
change makers. I'm your host, Brandy Harvey. Y'all, today we
got a good one. Were talking about being black and
married with kids. Were talking about traffic, sales and Profits.
The one and Only Ronnie Tyler is the COEO and
co founder of Tyler new Media, one of the fastest
growing private companies in America, recognized by INC Magazine as

(02:05):
a parent company of the celebrated Traffic Sales and Profit TSP,
America's premier learning community.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Of over forty eight thousand.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Purpose driven African American businesses and entrepreneurs. Ronnie created this
platform alongside her husband, Lamar Tyler to not only help
guide black businesses, but to also change the economic landscape
of the black community by closing the wealth gap through entrepreneurship.
Ronnie is one of the leading and most influential voices
in business, including being listed as one of Ebene's magazine

(02:36):
Power one hundred and selected as a finalist for Black
Enterprises Family Business of the Year. She is the author
of the Profitable Launch Blueprint and has been featured on CNN, HLN, Today,
Good Morning America, NPR, Washington Post, Entrepreneur, Essence, Parenting magazines,
just to name a few. Ronnie believes faith and love

(02:57):
are the greatest assets in business success.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Brought us Powers Talks.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Welcome, wife, mother, and entrepreneur Ronnie Tyler to the show.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Hi, thank you. Exciting to me here. Listen.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
We was talking. Listen, we was getting seasonings before the show. Yes,
what seasoning would you be?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I said, I would be sew I wanted to change that,
but hey, see this all I love it.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I put it on everything. Listen. To be black and
married with kids, you better be seasoning. Saw Listen. I'm
so excited to have you here.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I mean, talk about business, talk about grow, talk about
pivoting right. I mean, two thousand and seven, you and
your husband launched the blog Black and Marry with Kids,
and it takes off and you have five hundred thousand
fans on Facebook and then one million readers every quarter

(03:49):
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yes, yes, so yeah, in two thousand and seven. So,
first of all, my husband, Lamar has always been an entrepreneur.
That's that's his thing, whereas I left college and only
worked for one company for seventeen years, so that was
my mindset. So it took a lot for him to
get me to be an entrepreneur. As a matter of fact,

(04:12):
I said, get a job. I didn't understand it.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
So he worked for.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Five years, probably tortured because I just didn't feel that security.
And so after about five years, he came home and
he said, let's start a blog together because.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
He was doing websites at his job.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
And I said, okay, and we decided to do a
blog that's something we both could write about, and that.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Was marriage, family relationships.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
You know, at the time, in two thousand and seven,
it was just the thing in media to have negative
images of black relationships and pitting the black woman against
the black man and the black woman is single and
she can't find a man. It was everywhere it's now, yes,
And so when we started Black and Married with Kids Kids,

(05:00):
we said, you know, my parents had been married in
a long time.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
He'd seen marriages that had.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Been successful, and so we wanted to put a positive
image of marriage in the African American community.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
And that was like our theme and it.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Was something that we both could write about because we
wanted to do something that we wouldn't get bored, right
and that we both could write about. And so that's
what we did in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
With that, I mean two thousand and seven, Black and
Married with Kids takes off and it spawns you into
doing movies as well, because not only did you start
talking about family and relationships, you guys really leaned in
on the conversation of closing the wealth gap.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes, yes, and so yeah, you know, our mission was
to uplift and support like families and relationships in the
African American community through our resources. And you know, Lamar
because he worked at a TV station and he had
a lot of contexts contacts. He had a friend that
did a documentary film and he was like, oh, we

(06:04):
could do that, and I said, yeah, we could, and
so we were like, how can we get our message
out there more. Let's do a movie, and that's when
we started to do like full length documentary films on marriage, relationships,
blended families, generational Wealth. But we thought that that was
just a way for us to be able to get
our message out there more. And then Lamar was really
always entrepreneurial minded, and he thought, Okay, this is a

(06:28):
way that we could have a revenue stream as well.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, talk about getting this message out. I mean in
that progression, you found that black entrepreneurs needed a space
to not only get the message out that they could
become entrepreneurs, but a safe space for them to learn
more and grow as entrepreneurs.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yes, so we definitely found that. You know, when we
started doing our marriage movies. First they were just about
like couples and their relationships. Then we did a movie
for men that flopped because then we realized, okay, who
is our avatar women? Women are bringing these people in.
So we were like, we're never going to do that again.
But then we did a movie called Generational Wealth and

(07:15):
that movie took off. That was our most profitable movie.
We probably made it like in one year, like seven
figures off of selling twenty five dollars DVDs.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Right, so that movie really really took off. But here's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
We started off as bloggers and eventually we turned into
marketers and into like true like entrepreneurs. And we did
that by getting ourselves in those spaces. And so we
started to go to marketing conferences and we never saw
people that looked like us at all. We never saw them.
And so it was our mission to say, we're going

(07:49):
to bring this back to our community. Because the one
thing that we knew is that if we wanted to
strengthen the community, we had to also focus on wealth.
We had to also focus on like really closing that
wealth gap because we knew that that financial empowerment that
was the real power for us as far as I
have voice in our community. And so we really started

(08:11):
to take a turn. And so, yes, we do have
a mission to uplift our community, but now it's through entrepreneurship.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, I mean, you said the uplift the community. I mean,
but really your true uplift starts at home. Yes, because
you're a blended family, you know, you all have also
had to implement some rules in Rules of Engagement in
doing business as a couple. One of the things I
read that was really good. I said, girl, we got

(08:40):
to talk about this, the code of conduct, because we
get into business and we think it's one thing, right,
and we're like, oh, I got this great idea, but
now to get in business as a couple, well that
has a whole lot of layers because we don't get
to leave each other, you know, we don't get to
you go home from the office and you leave it there.
Everything centers at the home, and you guys had to

(09:02):
create some rules of engagement.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yes, yes, so we created our couple's code of conduct.
And I can tell you that really Black and Married
with Kids was the foundation. Just being around like the
therapist and the marriage resources. It really really helped our
marriage because we were young. We had only been married
for two years when we started Black and Married with Kids.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
And so we weren't therapists and sometimes people said, well,
what gives you the right to start something like this?
We just provided the platform. We were business people. We
provided the platform, and we had therapists and relationship writers
and bloggers. At one point we had over forty writers,
over forty writer yes, and so, but having that part

(09:48):
of our business and part of our marriage, it really
helped our marriage to grow.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
And so it wasn't something that we knew naturally.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
We learned it through the communication courses and things like that.
We also learned it based off of some of the
couples we saw in Black and Married with kids and
things not to do.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Right. Oh, look at how she talked to him in public.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
We're not going to do that. Let's write that down.
You know what not to say on Facebook? Right, right,
So the couple's code of conduct really came from everything
that we learned with Black and Married with kids, right.
And so the couple's code of conduct are the rules
that govern really having a successful business as couples.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
And the first thing is respect. Right.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
You don't want to have a business partner that you
can't respect. And so we always have that level of
respect for each other, especially in front of just anybody
outside the house, but especially in front of our clients,
in front of our employees.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
And so you're not going to see us.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Arguing in front of the employees, the clients, or whatever.
Number One, it doesn't make them feel safe or secure.
Would you work for a couple and they're always arguing
and you know there's something going on at home.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, you're gonna be like, oh, this company's going and that.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Right, absolutely, And so it's a matter of just having
that respect for each other at all times. The second
thing is like that trust and accountability. You have to
do what you say you're going to going to do,
and you have to be trustworthy. Would you have a
business partner that you don't trust and so a lot
of times people go into business with a spouse that

(11:22):
they don't trust, Like your spouse is cheating on you,
but you now you want to use your four oh
one k for a business, you know, So why would
you go into business with someone that you don't trust. Yeah,
but people always think it's about cheating, and it's not.
It's about those little things every day that you destroy

(11:43):
the trust on. You say you're gonna take the trash out,
but you don't. You say you're gonna pay this bill,
but you don't. Like on time, you say you're gonna
do these things with the kids, but you don't, And
so those things break down the trust as well. And
so it's about trust and doing what you say you're
gonna do. So that was a second thing.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's so good because I think that so often we
think so much about getting to the bag, like, girl,
we just gotta make this money, so we just gonna
do it. But you're not thinking about the foundation and
the integrity and the character of somebody is going to
that bad behavior in one area is going to.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Show up in another area. Right.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
And so the things that make for a great marriage
also make for a great business relationship. And that you
can say that even for if you're going into business
with your sister or with your frat brother or whatever.
You want to be able to trust that person. And
if that person is showing that they're untrustworthy in their

(12:40):
personal life, you need to watch out as far as
being a business partner with them.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, that's so good. I think that's gonna help so
many people. The other thing, and this was the last
point in the code of conduct, get formal. Yes, And
before we talked, I said, well, what does give formal mean, Ronnie,
And you just laid it out. You said, you got
to we make things too casual.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yes, people are being too casual as it pertained to
having a business with their spouse, right, And so they're
showing up sometimes they are not being consistent. But Lamar
and I from the beginning we said we were going
to do this and so like when we had so
we sold Black and Mary Kids in twenty twenty two,

(13:22):
but the entire time we had Black and Mary Kids,
we never took a month off of business, like are
you building a business or you're not building a business.
So I see entrepreneurs, they're in it some weeks, they're
out of it some weeks or whatever. And so we
remained consistent. But even with each other, we did everything
that we learned in corporate. We had meeting minutes, and
we had you know, calendar invites, and we did annual

(13:44):
planning and all of the things.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Good. Yeah, yeah, give formal.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I think so many people, I mean, we get in
business with our family and your cousin and all the things.
You just spent cousin to show up like cousin right,
and you're like, no, that's not how we're gonna win.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
No, even if you're in business with yourself, get formal,
get formal right, set out your calendar time block, have
certain days of the week that you're going to do
certain things. That's the way you're going to be able
to grow your business, have planning sessions, and people like
it's so silly. How can I have an annual planning
set meeting it's just me. Well, hire a VA for

(14:21):
six dollars an hour and have them in the meeting
taking notes. Get a peer business owner and you all
do your annual planning together. But get formal, even with yourself,
if you're in business by yourself.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I love that. I think it's just so much of this.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
When we talk about building anything, whether it's a business,
whether it's your life, it comes down to a plan,
It comes down to routine, but it comes down to accountability.
You have to be accountable somewhere, at some point, to
yourself or to other people in order to win and
be successful.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Somebody asked me recently, one of my clients, and she
was just select Ronnie, Well, who are you accountable doing?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
At first?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Accountable to it? At first I said, well, nobody checks me,
nobody checks me now. But then I said, you know what,
I'm accountable to my family. I'm accountable to my employees,
right and so now that I have employees, I'm accountable
for that. I want to make sure that they have
consistency that they can get paid. And I feel like
so many people play with that too much, and they're

(15:21):
up and down in businesses, and they're hiring people and
they're firing people. And so I am accountable to my
community and to my clients, and to my husband and
to my kids. So I am, even though secretly nobody
can check you wearing you you wearing all the hats, right, yes?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
And I think so when we look at so many women, right,
so many women are saying they suffer from burnout, right
because they're wearing so many hats. They're the mom, they're
the wife, they're the corporate girly, they're the CEO, the CEO,
they're the CFO, they're all of these things and all
these different hats. What has really kept you grounded and

(16:01):
stable to continue to rise in the season of your life?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
So it took me a while to get there. I well,
first of all, I have two schools of thought, So
it took me a while to get there.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
And so was I grounded? No, I was crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Thank God, lamar'still with me, right, But yeah, So just
trying to kind of like balance it all and doing
all the things that I thought I was supposed to
do as a mother, you know, trying to cook, you know,
five nights a week and do all the things. And
so it took really being able to prioritize like what
matters and what doesn't matter. And it matters to me

(16:37):
that the downstairs is clean, but the upstairs is a day.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
On this okay, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
So you just got to start like picking and choosing
like what really matters, or else you're not going to
be able to get it all done. My other school
of thought is that I feel like women, believe it
or not, we put too much pressure on each other, right,
and so the more that we put up this facade
than other people think I have to look like that
or I have to you know, in order to be

(17:03):
successful or whatever. And so I try not to do
things that I just think would be a bad representation
for women. So I'm not out here, like if you
catch me on a certain day, I'm not gonna be
wearing makeup or just like being like completely beat because
I think people think that's what you have to look
like if you have a seven figure business or an entrepreneur.

(17:24):
And no, honey, I have like on a nice top
in pajama pants and some crops, you know, or whatever,
or if I'm meeting with my team, like most of
the week, I'm not having on makeup or whatever, because
I really want to show people this is what it
really takes.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, what it really takes.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
When you talk about the planning that it takes to
run the business, though, what it takes on the back
end for you is that continually going to therapy. Is
that making sure you have a workout regiment?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
What does that really look like?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Because there's so many women who are like, I want
the seven figure business, but don't understand that order to
have that, there's some stuff behind the curtain that I
have to be able to do.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Right, So for me, the things behind the curtain that
I had to do is well number one, I'll have
to say that things kind of timed out really good
for me, right, nice and good. Like, by the time
our business grew to a certain point, my kids were
self sufficient, you know. So, and now I can't afford
to have someone come in and clean the house for me,

(18:25):
and I can afford to have people do some of
the things to.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Alleviate that stress.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
And so while I would love to get up here
and say, the thing to do is to have somebody
do all of those things. Could I have afforded them
back then? Probably not, And so it just worked out
such that now that my business is bigger, I can
afford all of those things. I will say to outsource
as much as possible, and to in your private life again,

(18:52):
prioritize what's important and what's not important. And it's not
important that your kids get vegetables every day. Okay, I'm
not even going to read yours. I don't care. Okay,
they didn't eat vegetables every day. They got all a's
and they're still a lot. So there's that, right or
you know, and people say, well, my kids would never
eat McDonald's. Got tore McDonald's up, like okay, So there's that.

(19:14):
But I say, if you want to do it all,
first of all, you got to prioritize. You got a
time block, you have to focus on your business and
be consistent. In order to do that, some somethings have
to go. You can just I can't say you can't
do it all. There's probably a woman out there that
does it all. I couldn't write, and so I had
to start letting some things go allowing people to help me.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
But you can make some choices.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Now, I see a lot of people spending a lot
of money on things, and it's not as expensive as
you think that to have somebody maybe come in twice
a month to just like clean up and do the
things that may be less Starbucks, that may be less
eating out, you know what I'm saying. But you can
prioritize that and budget for it and get it done.

(20:01):
But if you can get someone to take those things
off of your plate so that you can focus on
your business.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Is there a non negotiable for you? For me?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yes, I can't work as much in the business as
my husband. So that's for me because I am the
CEO and I do have a business partner, and that's
my husband. We always had an agreement that he would.
I just can't work as much. We have four kids.
I just can't do it right. And so that's for
me because I do want to spend time with the kids.

(20:34):
I didn't want to impact them as much. And so
we have an office building. I don't even really have
an office in there. I share an office with my
husband when I come in and a lot of our employees,
especially if they're new, They're like, why isn't Ronnie coming in?
But we agreed that I would not work in the office.
That was an agreement when we had our office building

(20:54):
that I don't go into office and that he does.
And a lot of our employees don't even know that agreement,
and so they're like, you should come in, you should
come in. But that was my non negotiable because I
have four kids at home and I'm running our household
and I'm taking on the majority of that as well,
and so people are like, oh, girl, you're running this
business and you have four kids.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
How did you do it?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's how I did it, and so I just wanted to,
you know, let people know that I had those non negotiables.
If I were the CEO of our business, I would
have had even more help at home.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I can only imagine.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I mean, four children, you're the wife mother CEO, and
you've really built your business, like the cornerstone of it
has been faith.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yes, yes, yes, yeah, you know it has been you know,
I grew up in the church.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
My my husband, my father is a pastor. Oh you
a PK. Yes, teenager, I was.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I was actually really good when I got my twenties.
That's when I gave my kid, my mother and father
the the biggest headaches.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
But really, yes, because in the two thousands, baby.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, nineteen ninety three, okay, when I was hiding that pregnancy, okay,
and I came home. I came home for Christmas break.
I ain't tell my parents I was pregnant. I was
a junior in college and they didn't know, and I
was on a full scholarship. They worked so hard. I

(22:24):
didn't say nothing. I hadn't been the one doctor's appointment.
I was probably six or seven months pregnant, had didn't
even have prenatal care.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Didn't say nothing to nobody.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Okay, wow, yeah, so that's when I gave them the headaches.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
But I know that had to been so weighty to
carry that as like that secret.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, because I don't even know if I said anything
to my roommate. Maybe she knew. I know they had
to see I was getting fat, but they was like,
she's just eating in the caf Yes, eating it up.
Where'd you go to school?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Fo?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, so you had fried chicken Fridays.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
It was Yes, the food was good in the cafeteria.
I can't take that back.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
There Jada went to Spelman. So I already know I
went to Hampton my first few years. I already know
fried chicken Fridays or Wednesdays or something.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Baby, they had all the food. Yes. Yeah, so they
didn't know that I was pregnant.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
But I finally had to tell them and before I
came back to school, and of course they told me
all the things that I knew they were going to
tell me, but also they just kind of jumped into
action and supported me. Made sure I got my butt
back in school, made sure I finished, made sure I graduated.
I even graduated early and with honors, went to graduate school,

(23:39):
all the things. And so somebody just asked me recently, well, Ronnie,
like what was it in you that made you, you know,
stick with your goals and continue on? And I was
like that That's always been me, Like I've always been
the type of person that I had to do my
business first.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
I had to do my homework first and party later.
That was that.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
But that wasn't the only thing. It was my parents.
They supported me. It wasn't even a thought for my
mom to say, okay, you got this baby, quit Spelman,
get down here, take care of this. Baby because I'm
not going to do it. My mom was in her
forties and I was her youngest, so she was.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Free, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
But she took my baby, made me go back to Spelman.
So where was she when I was at Spelman? She
was going to daycare before she went to work. She
was taking care of my child. She was like knocked
all the way back into being a mother of a
newborn child.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
So I could finish school. Wow. And so that was
one of the biggest things.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
And that's one of the lessons I learned, is that I,
you know, to sacrifice for your kids and to do
those things. And so I learned that from my mother.
I would do that for my kids. Thank god, they
haven't done anything like that. I'm not a grandmom right now,
but I learned that from my parents. And not to stop.
Why should I stop? They sacrificed so much. I have
to do good.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
That is so good because we don't give the village
enough credits sometimes right when they sacrifice and save us
from ourselves.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
And I don't even know if they even know, like
how much I appreciate because of course I was a
brat the whole time. I probably wasn't as appreciative. They
kind of stuck it out. It paid off, Thank you
mom and dad. But yeah, but I do I really
appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Oh, that's an unconditional love. Yeah, listen, I mean the
unconditional love, the sacrifice. I mean, you and Lamar met
and you already had a child, you already had I
already had two children, yes, yeah, And so talk about
that that sacrifice.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
And that love and blending this family together. Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
So, first of all, thank God for Lamar. He's not
one of these guys that's out here saying I don't
want a woman with kid Listen, Lamar is living his
whole seven figure life. And Okay, I had two kids
when we met, all right, And I do think it's
because we met and because of our relationship, we've built
what we've built. And so you could be blocking your

(26:07):
blessing by just blanketly saying that you don't want a
woman with kids, right, because you don't know what she's
been through. And I'm not like the sum of that
one choice where I got pregnant, right, Yes, I made
some decisions over here, but I'm still a hard worker.
And when he met me, I had a great job
I had. I had almost on my second home. You know,

(26:30):
I took care of my kids. You know, I was
very self sufficient. And so when you say that you're
leaving out a whole segment of society. You could come,
you know, join with a woman with kids and build
something very great. And so I hate to see a
person that really discounts another.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Person because of their past. Right.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I see so many women out there saying I don't
want to be married again. Well, honey, if I had
taken that attitude, I wouldn't be with Lamar and he
treats me so good, and so you don't want to
be with a loser again.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
You don't want to be.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
With that so a dusty, yeah, a crusty all right,
So don't just watch how you put that out there
in the atmosphere. And so sometimes I correct women, I say, well,
do you really just not like marriage? Because if you
could be with a man that did this, did this,
did that, would.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
You want that? And they say, yeah, so why are
you putting that out there? Right?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
So why don't you say I don't want that experience again?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
So anyway, I didn't answer your question. I went off
on a ramp. No, I really think you did, because
this is a thing.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
So we're in a space where we are inundated with
messages all day long. I mean, we turn on these phones,
we turn on these tablets, and every everybody has a message,
you know. I just you know, saw a post yesterday
that says thout giving these me a microphone, you know.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
So it's always a message, you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
But we get to choose what we take in and
what we say we're going to live by. And I
think that you are giving women so much permission in this,
in this conversation to say, wait a minute, I can
have more, I can do more, i can experience something else.
I'm not the some of my choices. I get to
choose again.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Exactly, you are not the some of your choices.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
And I've never felt like ashamed of myself or embarrassed
because I'm really confident in like who I am. I've
always done better, I've always been above average, I've always
had good grades.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I'm gonna make it happen.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
And so people just need to know to rely on
like themselves, you know their core like characteristics, and know
that you're gonna be okay even if you're messed up.
Even if you're going through a bad time, like right now,
just think back on like like how you've overcome to
this point, you're going to be okay.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, yeah, okay. So how did you meet Lamar?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Because there's somebody who's out there saying, well, I got
two kids, I'm divorced that you know already come with stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
How did you meet him? Because there's a story. Yeah,
there is a story. It's so funny. I probably played
it all wrong. So, first of all, Lamar, I had
a friend that I grew up with. I went to
elementary school, middle school, high school with her. I was
living in the Atlanta area and Lamar was living in
the DC area. He was her coworker. And so she

(29:25):
was having a little kickback that's what the kids said,
we say, get together at her house. Right, So she
was having a little get together at her house really
for her friends, because she had a lot of friends
that were born in December. I was born in December,
Lamar was born in December. And she was like, Ronnie's
coming to town. Let's have like a December birthday party
for all of our friends. And so she invited Lamar
some other ladies. She invited me well, I had a

(29:48):
new born, and so I came to that. I came
to that actual party with a baby on my lap.
So when I met Lamar, I was the lady in
the room with a baby on her lap, okay, And
so I saw him across the room. He was kicking
with some other ladies. He was playing spades and stuff
like that. So the first time we met, we only

(30:09):
said like high to each other. And I don't know
what kind of impression I made because again I had
a baby with me. But the next time I came
to town to visit her, we went to the club
we were at, like DC Live or.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Something Love or something like that, one of those clubs. No,
I did not. I was lookt killed and I.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Was there and I was with her, and then he
was with another one of his guy friends and we
were dancing and stuff, and Lamar was like, hey, like,
when I come to your town, I'm going to look
you up. Because he had a traveling job and he
knew I was from Newport News, like the Tidewater area,
and he was like, I have an assignment coming up
in that area, So when I come to that area,
I'm going to look you up. And I was like, okay,

(30:53):
So I gave him my number. He didn't come for
two months. He didn't call me for two months.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
And so but he called me and he was like, hey,
this is Lamar and so we went out and that
was the rest.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Was history, and y'all have been together ever since, ever since.
He proposed out the eleven months. So to all the
ladies out there, that's what I'm saying, because he ain't younger.
Too younger too, ladies.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oka, four years, okay, four years. You know I've done
a little. Okay, I ain't gonna go there. I an't
tell my business, you know. But all these ladies out
here who are watching this, he ain't called in two days.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
We not. We can't. We can't count him out. He
ain't called in three, four, five days. You can't count
him out. This man didn't call for two months, two months.
And he said, I know what I like, and I
see you don't want it.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
He was like, I was a man of my word.
I was like, whatever, I think. I thought it was weird,
but he said, but he did.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
I mean, I think that's so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
And then to progress in such a way where you
create a platform while you all are still learning, still growing,
still experiencing, still trying to figure it out. Building a
plane Me there, right, And you create this platform for
other people to find a safe space to commune with
each other.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I love it and I'm
so thankful that I met him when I met him.
If I had met Lamar that day that I had
that baby on my lap, we wouldn't be together because
I was just getting out of that relationship. And so
I had a lot of mess that was going on
with me as far as like just I had to

(32:32):
start focusing on myself and get back to myself. And
so my two oldest kids, they have the same father,
but the second kid freed me from the relationship because
when I got pregnant with my second daughter, I said,
I can't do this anymore. I feel like I'm gonna
have three kids if I stay in this relationship. And

(32:54):
so I literally put my everything in storage. I sold
my house, I put everything in story, and I moved
back home with my parents.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
And so I always tell people sometimes you may have
to take.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
A step back to go forward, and I just I
like released everything. The only thing I didn't have to
release was my job because I worked from home, and
so I had a very good job.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
It paid well.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I got I stayed with my parents for nine months.
I got myself back together. I was focused. I I
bought a house near my mom, and at that time
I met Lamar, and so it was in a good place.
And you know, for myself, I released that other person.
I would messing with them anymore, and so I was

(33:38):
in a good place. I do feel like our relationship
has helped us and is the reason why we impact
the black community. One of our one of the people
that we interviewed in one of our movies, said that
a loving relationship draws people there. And I truly truly

(34:02):
believe that because we came together because of his entrepreneurial
spirit and his passion for the community, because of who
I am, and because of I get it done with
a baby on my lap, I was pregnant all a's
you know, So that's me, that's me at the core,
and then us together his passion, my determination is a

(34:25):
lot has allowed us to make the impact that we've made,
and so I truly believe it's because of our marriage.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Oh that is so good. I mean, because of your marriage.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
You have five hundred thousand you know Facebook fans on
with black and Berry with children to now with TSP,
over forty eight thousand Black entrepreneurs all around the world.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yes, yes, over forty eight thousand Black entrepreneurs all around
the world. And the reason is that TSP is so important.
It is because we do need to connect with each other.
Entrepreneurship is so lonely. Sometimes sometimes your family does not
understand what you're doing. They did not understand what we

(35:09):
were doing when we started our business job, yes, yes,
and you had we had to filter that out. And
I know when Lamar left his job to start in
the business, people were like, Ronnie, that man living off
of you that what is he doing?

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Like you know, I no, he was not.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
It was like very intentional for us for him to
leave his job and then a few years later for
me to leave my job.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
But so that's where we had to like just stay
focused on our goals and like filter out that noise. Well,
with TSP, you have forty eight other thousand, you know,
forty eight thousand other entrepreneurs to kind of talk to
to to kind of get through the ups and downs with.
And so that's one of the benefits of the community

(35:56):
that we have each other right and their their cultural things.
People are not connecting with a lot of those other communities.
There's a reason why we go to these conferences and
we are just a few people and they're not other
Black people there. It's because they're not connecting with the
message or maybe the person that's on stage. That person
that's on stage, while they have good business sense, their

(36:18):
personal beliefs, their political beliefs do do not align with
us as Black people, and we don't want to follow them.
And so it does make a difference. It does make
a difference to have those black entrepreneurs that are really
focused on pouring into the Black community.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I mean, I experienced TSP last year. I popped in
and you guys, your husband did the fireside chat with
Damon John and I was there. There is something that
is so electric and magnetic in that TSP space because
I mean, and the testimonials that these people are having,

(36:55):
these are six to seven figure business These are people
making multimillion dollar businesses and enterprises, and they have a
safe space to talk about.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
That, right, they have a safe space to talk about it.
There are no airs when you come to TSP. You
could be sitting next to someone that's making eight figures,
seven figures, ten figures, and you wouldn't know it. That's
the culture, that's the community that we have established. And
so it's just about like pouring into each other. But
you're right, we all need to connect, we all need

(37:27):
to kind of serve each other. And we always tell
people when you come to into the community, the way
you prospers about through service. Don't come in there with
the focus of I'm just gonna sell. The people that
do the best are there to serve. And so the
more we serve, the more successful we are.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
So what does that look like when we say served,
Because some I'm like, oh, there they go, trying to
get some volunteer hours out of me.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
No, it's just being yourself.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
If you have a gift, it's about like not having
that like poverty, like scarcity mindset, because like I said,
for me, like i know I'm good, I know I'm
good at what I do. I know I'm gonna be okay,
nobody can duplicate that, and nobody can duplicate you. They
can copy all of your stuff online, but they're not you, right,
and so just share it if somebody's having an issue,

(38:13):
share like.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
This is what I learned.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
These are the challenges that I've had, so that you
don't have those challenges. So when I say serve, just
show up and share with you, no, so that somebody
else doesn't have to go the long way that you took. Right,
If you can prevent somebody if you took ten steps,
if you can prevent them from taking having to take
ten steps, now they don't have to take seven steps,
that's what I mean by serving. Yeah, And so the

(38:36):
more people do that in the community, the more money
they make.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
It's plain and simple.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
What's been one of those stories that was that kind
of solidified this path for you? And Lamar, is that
there one story that you're like, oh, we can't stop
look at.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
This as far as like somebody that we've helped or
I mean, they are so many stories. But I do
think that our clients are the reason why we keep
going because it's very hard and as much as we
love the black community, they're the hardest people on us.
And you know, black.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Folks in the comments, yes, they are prepare for myself
for the comments on this, right.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
But like so it's and so but it's the stories
that we hear from our clients that keep us that
keep us going. We have clients and some of the
current clients that are past clients or past clients that
are now employing people like such as Sharis Jones. She's
Sase Jones boutique, right, and she's out of Richmond, Virginia,

(39:42):
And when she came to TSP, she was probably, you know,
just a solopreneur, very stressed, but now she has this
huge business, right and oh, I just love seeing her.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
We're just so proud of her.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
And you know when we the last we went to
her business, forty employees and you know, her own fashion
line and her jewelry. And we have so many instances
like that where we see directly how we've impact people's families,
their marriages, their children. To see people being able to

(40:17):
go on vacation with their families, or even some of
our employees that came and now they've purchased, they've bought
homes and now they're taking their kids to Disney and
stuff like that. Like those are the stories that keep
us going.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, Yeah, what's the one thing when people come through TSP,
What is the one thing you tell those entrepreneurs to
get out of their own way.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
How do they get out of their own way?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's definitely mindset, and I think a lot of people
that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
It's mindset.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
So they got to really really focus on their mindset
because if it wasn't about mindset.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Everybody would be super rich.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Right, Yeah, because the data is out there, the steps
are out there, they really are. It's the mindset that
you can follow these steps. And I can follow these steps.
But I make seven figures and you make seven hundred dollars, right,
because my mindset says this is working. Let me pour
this money into the ads. Let me risk, let me sacrifice,

(41:14):
let me put the money in. So let me put
six figures in so I can get seven figures out.
Your mindset, you're just as smart as me, says I'm scared.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Let me hold on to what I have.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Let me put two dollars in and get ten dollars back, right,
And so it is about mindset, So we have people
to kind of work on their mindset in addition to
So it's about mindset, it's about strategy, and it's about execution.
You need all three, right, because if you have mindset
but you don't execute, you still don't have any money.
You know, some people that's smart, they can tell you

(41:45):
how to do everything, but they're not executing right.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
If you have all the strategy.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Again, all the strategy, you know, all the steps, but
no execution on the mindset again nothing. And then there's
some people that's executing, just out here doing stuff all
over the place. Ten coaches doing all the things, but
their mindset isn't right and they don't have the right strategy.
And so it's a good balance of all three mindset, strategy.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
And execution.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
And so what I would tell a person is number one,
get in the right circles. If you're around a lot
of people that are negative, if you're around a lot
of people that are always telling you why you can't
do it, then you're not in the right circles. Get
around some people that are doing some big things that
can stretch you, since your goals can be bigger and
that you can do some things.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
That's what I would tell them. Get around some good people.
Get around some good people.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
I can only imagine, you know, to create businesses that
have risen to this level, you've had to lose some
people along the way, Yeah, and how have you managed
to lose to keep winning?

Speaker 2 (42:59):
So the first thing is just being confident that even
though we've lost people, that we've done right by them. Right.
So sometimes you do have to lose people because you
outgrow them, you know. And that's like a hard conversation,
whether it's an employee that's not keeping up the business
is growing and yeah, that worked back when we weren't

(43:21):
that big, but now it's time to go. Now the
pressure's on. We're gonna have to let you go because
you're not keeping up. But I think usually that person
that leaves, they're super mad at us, they don't want
to even see us anymore. But I do feel confident
that a lot of them come back around because when
you know, when it's all said and done and when
they calm down, they know that we were good to them.

(43:43):
And so the first thing is to be good to
people their vendor relationships things like that, where maybe the
person even didn't deserve to be paid.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
We'll go ahead and pay you out, but we won't
continue to work with you.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
So nobody can be out there saying that we haven't
paid you or anything like that. And so when you
outgrow people, just make sure that you are doing right
by them and that you've always you know, had good
standards and so that that's that's good because a lot
of them come back around eventually. In our personal lives.

(44:17):
I think it's the same thing when you outgrow people.
Sometimes you are able you have to limit the noise
and limit and so that and that respect. You just
kind of limit like your exposure to people or what
have you. Or sometimes you're just really too busy for that.
I mean, I don't necessarily cut people all the way
out unless they're toxic. You just limit them. You limit

(44:38):
what you tell them. Sometimes you tell family your goals.
They don't understand. They're putting negative you know, just thoughts
around it, trying to like, you know, why you're quitting
your job. You need a job, Like no, we got this.
So sometimes you just got it. You have to keep
it in and then show them the results later. So

(45:00):
just watch what you tell people, you know, limit your
exposure to them. And that's how you do it.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Limit your exposure to people. Don't You don't want all
that in your spirit?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
You're a lot on you. Yeah, all that in your
spirit is there?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Is there this the moment that became crucial for you
to succeed. Did you have that moment where you were
like balls to the wall, there is no turning back.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
What was that moment?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Well, number one, when you quit your job. Okay, that's
if we can add that to the moments. Right, So
that's the first one, right, because we have four kids,
and you know, I was staying this the other day
that I've never been the risk at all type of person.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Because you were the you were the steady, yeady in
the relationship.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah, yeah, and I always am. I think Lamar probably
would be the risk at all. You hear about all
the big big entrepreneurs, they all have a eye live
on a couch. I lost it all. I lived on
a couch. I lived in my car, tape a story.
Lamar is never going to have that story now that
he's with me, because I'm not doing that.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Okay, that yourself. I can see all that happening. So
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
But so so you know, we were very calculated when
we you know, we left our jobs and things like that.
But yes, leaving your job, having four mouths to feed,
having a mortgage, having kids, this has to work. This
has to work, and so we're very careful with that.
The second moment is once we start hiring people, because
I see people are that are so irresponsible with that

(46:41):
and so like they don't care, like they just make
decisions and not really worrying about how impacts their employees.
I've heard people kind of brag about, I fired my
whole team today, I'm just gonna start over. And people
can rest assured that if you're with us, we're thinking
about you. We're thinking about our employees. We're thinking about
like what this impact, what, what does this move? How

(47:01):
would it impact them? We're thinking about, oh, last year
was tight. What can we do to make sure that
we don't have to lay off, but that we can
weather this storm without laying off until you know, until
we are more profitable. So that's how we think. We're
not thinking, oh, oh it's tight, things are bad. Just
drop everybody. They can rest assured. Themar and Ronny don't.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Think like that.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, yeah, you said the impact on people as you
continue to grow this business, what is your hope as
you continue to impact this black community and entrepreneurship and
closing that generational wealth gap.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
What is the hope for the impact. I just hope that.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
We just continue to impact the entrepreneurs that we work with,
that they're able to have that impact on their families,
that generational wealth, that they're able to expose their families
to different things. You know, Like we just took thirty
people with us to God like two weeks ago, and

(48:03):
this was our second time to Ghana, and we said, oh,
we want to share that with people in our community.
So we took thirty entrepreneurs. Now we're going to take
more next year. Right, So that was our first time
taking them, but it really made me feel the impact
of what we're doing when they came and they thanked
us with tears, like they were crying and saying like,

(48:23):
I just think, thank you for being able to really
share this with my family, but to really experience this,
right and for me to see people that not only
are experiencing this, but they're able to bring their kids.
And so for me to see entrepreneurs that come into
our community and sometimes they're struggling and they're not making
money and now they're making six figures and now they're

(48:44):
making seven figures, and now they're going on vacations and
now their kids are working in their business or their
kids are going to this college debt free. That's the
impact that we want to make. And so I want
us to continue to make that impact and so that
I can visibly see it not only on them, but
on their families and then the communities, because you know,
some of our clients have communities like us, and so

(49:06):
when we go to their conferences and we see that
now they're impacting hundreds of people, that's our impact exponential, right,
And so we just love to see our clients when
they prosper, because that means that that's our impact. You know,
some people like, oh, they're getting too big or start
getting jealous. No, when you win, that's our impact, and

(49:29):
we love that. So I just want to see more
of that.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
That is so good.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I was listening to some old gym Ron tapes this
morning and he said, don't bring your need to the marketplace,
bring your seed. Bring your seed. And I think that
when I hear stories like that, is that you all
have brought your seed in every season to the marketplace,
whether it's through black and married with kids to TSP,

(49:54):
you brought your seed. And so because you brought your seed,
you have been able to see this TENX. This three
growth and not just your business, right, but then in
every life that you touched, because you didn't bring your need,
you brust your seed.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Oh I love that. I love that.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
I think that a lot of people start businesses out
of that need. Like you can feel that desperation that
you can feel.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
That later on today is about desperation. What desperation will do? Listen,
I got one coming up today. You can feel that.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
And that's another thing because you know, like Lamar, he
coaches a lot of people and the first thing is
like black women that that's like the largest segment of entrepreneurs.
Like we are just so bad, right and so, but
a lot of our businesses are going out of like
our passion and out of our our our.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Need to serve.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
But a lot of times we put undue pressure on
that and so and then it becomes like this need
and now you're trying to sell something to people that
you shouldn't even be selling it to. So point in case,
like somebody say, I want to serve single mothers that
are low income, that are YadA, YadA, YadA, and you
want to serve them and with your programs and so

(51:11):
they're trying to build like this program where they have
to like sell this thing to them and they're not
making money, and so now they're trying to sell this
thing to people that but they're low income. It's like
a vicious cycle, right, whereas that maybe you need to
take a step back. You have some strengths, you have
some talents. Let's go make some money over here. Let's
be profitable so that this thing that you want to serve,

(51:34):
you can pour that overflow into that so that now
you have this program and you don't even have to
charge them, right, because that's the service, that's that need
that you.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Had, right.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
And so that's something that we speak to all the time.
But if you're like bringing that need, like that desperation,
like I need that money, it shows it shows up.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I mean, this is my first interview with Faron Weaver.
She talked about that.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
She said, where so many of us go wrong is
we want.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
To start a nonprofit. Why are you starting nonprofit? You
need a for profit business. Then you can go fund
and start the nonprofit, but don't start with the nonprofit.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
And they are like struggling so hard, Like with these nonprofits,
they're not profitable because it's got nonprofit in the title. Yeah, anyway,
that's another story. But anyway, you're right.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
You're right.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Like they go off and start these nonprofits, they need
to start a business. It's obvious that this person has
an entrepreneurial spirit spirit, right, but starting that nonprofit may
not necessarily be the move. And Lamar tries to show people,
let's let's be profitable over here so that you can
do good over here for your nonprofit. Yeah, y'all didn't

(52:48):
catch it. Y'all didn't catch it. She said it got
nonprofit in the business. This is a woman who drives traffic, sales,
and profit. And she said, you keep trying to make
something nonprofit and make a profit off of it.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Exactly. That's a word. That's a word.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
If you called it, maybe some of y'all gonna catch
it in the pocket lot, Amen, listen. So I mean
so many good gems because you are really pushing people
to profit.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yes, we are.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
You're pushing them to profit because they have that money
they can make it give you choices in the freedom.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Yes, yeah, it gives you the freedom. It's not all
money is not all even evil. It is not.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
And I think that when we hear conversations about generational wealth.
We hear it about money and making money and growing
your money. You know, sometimes people get uncomfortable, but your
freedom is in that money, it is.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah, yeah, your freedom, your ability to do good in
the community, to impact people is in that money.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
And so if you're always struggling.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
And not able to kind of profit from your business,
who are you serving. If you can't get the word
out and you can't afford to advertise or market, then.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
You're like limiting your audience.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
And so if you're making more money and then people
more people can see you, you can you know, increase
your impact. And so yeah, we got to teach people
how to make some more money.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Got to teach people how to make some more money.
So TSP is coming out, I think at the time
when this interview drops, it is you were in the
middle of TSP.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yes, And this is our tenth year. So it's our
ten year anniversary of Traffic, Sales and Profit. We've been
doing it for ten years. It'll be our nineteenth or
twentieth conference because we do them twice a year, we
do them in June in January, so June twenty sixth
through twenty eighth, it's our ten year anniversary.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
So this is coming out on the twenty six.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Get your butt down to the Avalon all right here
in Atlanta, Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah, because we want to pour
into your business and show you how to grow it.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I mean a fantastic I went last year. I popped
in for a day. Phenomenal event. The energy is absolutely amazing.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
The people.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Every where you turn somebody, it feels supportive. It feels
like you were in a loving space. Because I've been
to a gazillion conferences. I've been to a gazillion summits,
and you know, you feel the energy when you walk
in and you feel like, oh, okay, it's gonna be
a long day, you know. But then you walk into TSP,
I mean from let me just say this, the reason

(55:32):
they driving traffic, sales and profit is because they brand
that hotel from the from the tip top, Okay, from
your drive up you see Ronnie and La Maa, Okay,
this is black people in the in.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Alpharetta at the Avalone.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Okay, from every point in the hotel. It is marketed
to the event you have. You guys, take ownership of it,
and it feels good, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
And we deserve that we do.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
We deserve that, and so not only like everything we
do is very intentional. Yeah, that looks good for our brand,
but it looks good for our people. And I feel
the pride, like I hear it, and I feel that
like people are just so proud to see that hotel
branded with those black faces in that white area, like

(56:21):
big and both they are, and then they're also inspired
by it as well, right, and so it feels so good.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
And then also like we say, we go back and
we experience certain things and we bring it back, and
like we put a lot into the experiences that our
clients feel experience, right, And so when they join our
masterminds and when we like buy out this place or
we take them to Ghana or we take them to
Cabo or whatever, because we deserve to feel that as

(56:49):
black entrepreneurs as well, and so we want to give
them like that top notch service that we are getting
when we go to these other masterminds. So it's not
going to be like, you know, half wea' done. We
want our entrepreneurs to feel that same thing that we
deserve to experience that as well.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I I love that and I feel like every entrepreneur
every business owner, every founder, everyone who is listening, who
even has a brand budding in their spirit.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
You have to get into a space and place.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
You have to get into a mindset that I deserve this, yep,
Because in life we get what we deserve.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yes, yes, I'm like actually practicing that right now. Like
I've been like experiencing a lot of anxiety and I
feel like, Okay, I'm not like in a grateful space
right now, So I need to like wake up and
think about like ten reasons why like I'm grateful because
you just never know like what is coming next, right,

(57:46):
And so for me, I need to kind of like
take a step back and say and just enjoy like
how I'm experiencing life, like lamar, and I like very humble,
like like you're not going to know like oh like.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
What we drive or what we have or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
But sometimes it's like I need to like enjoy it
and be like, Okay, yeah, I just came from Ghana.
I just came from Granada. I just came from it,
like I did all the things. But I'm just like
kind of pushing through and not appreciating it all. And
so I've been like experiencing a lot of like anxiety lately,
and so I need to get back into like a

(58:25):
grateful space and just really like enjoying the things that
I have, because you can get like so it can
be so much like all the meetings, all the work,
and you look like up and you're not enjoying anything.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I know Ghana had to have
been a life changing experience because I did the Ancestral
Journey back in twenty sixteen and I was telling my
team this was the last time we taped. I was like,
everybody needs to go experiences. If you are a black
person who has been a part of the diaspora, if
you are black in America, at some point, you need

(59:01):
to go take the journey to experience what our ancestors
endured in those slave dungeons.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Yes, we went to the slave river and we went
to the slave dungeons.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
A sinn monsu, a sin monsu.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
I think I'm saying that right where they go to
the river and then it's still a journey.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I was trying to pretend like I knew what you
were saying, but I don't know what I was like,
I was like, wait, what is that it could be wrong.
Let me stop, like, girl, we're okay.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
But yes, that sounded kind of right. Somebody is going
to be a historian.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
They come fast, so I'm not even gonna try to pretend.
But yes, the slave river, the dungeons, the naming ceremony
and all of that just it just meant so much.
And so my parents were able to experience and my
kids were able to experience it, and now we're allowing

(01:00:00):
other people to experience it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
So yes, you need to go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
As we begin to close out, and we're gonna wait
on y'all to give us the comments. You know, as
we begin to close out, one word you are committed
to in this season of your life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
I let's say gratitude.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
I felt like, yes, yes, I am committed to that
for being grateful, because you just don't know what and
then a lot of things you don't have control over.
You could be riding high today and then those terrorists
could bring your whole business down. You just don't know.
And so if you're not grateful now for the things

(01:00:36):
that you have and for the blessings that you have,
I think number one, you're unappreciative.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
And so me it's gratitude.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yeah, I love that gratitude. Ronnie Tyler, such a great conversation.
This is awesome. Much continued success on every endeavor that
you and your husband are doing. Thank you for all
the work that you do in the community. Bottom Power
Talks another good one for the books. To be sure
to send this to somebody who needs to be not
only grateful, but needs to feel more deserving in this

(01:01:06):
season of their life. Until next time, I'm your girl,
Brandy Harvey eat Well, give a damn move your body
every single day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Peace,
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