Vero G Spotlight Radio Show Full Interview with MMA Karate Legend CJ Rivera

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Yes, I got one of myone and only on the other side of
the show, my boy. Sincethey cj RI or he knows by another

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name back home by c J.Vera, Yes, but you're right,
No, I'm gonna let hit tochoose himself sky. So basically I have
many names. Uh. I wasknown in the Marshal wise Masteron Schulter,
CJ to Terra or Soaki head ofthe family. That's what means by Soki.
Masteron Schulter was given to me byGrandmaster Anthony and also by the Weaves

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organization, and Soakie was given tome by Grandmaster bybez cfood Rick out in
Chicago. So those are my namesin it. Where the CJ. Terry
actually came from was actually my stepbrother a couple of years ago when I
was competing in put Rico. Butthe very first time he told me,
um, you need to have aname. So we was in the car.
He's like, oh, your nameis Carlos and I'm gonna quit cause

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the terror like, nah, thatsounds whack weird. Yeah, it sounds
weird. So I was like,you know what I said, So I
got waned myma with my name,So we're gonna put CJ. I remember
counselors back in the days, itwas like yo, stop that poppeto a
nickname, and you should start outwith the CJ. So that's when I
put CJ. It was born inPuerto Rico, and it left puert Rico
and it still with me ever sincethen. And it was all of us.

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We was in a gonna gonna carride going into I forgot what was
going. My step brother Hector atthe time, brother kill chic, you
know, he was. We wasgonna be cool whatever, but certain things
happened. We talked about that today. We're gonna get to a lot of
stuff today when it comes into theyou know a lot of martial arts stuff,
um, talking about you know,what goes on in the martial arts,

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and also how to protect yourself inthis die in this time and need
and also talk about certain incidents thathappens in the news when it comes to
certain martial art aspects of stuff.Um, you know. So that's about
it to about the two books thatI have right here. Yes, I'm
in volume forty six. Um,my grandmaster, Grandmaster Jay's in that volume
with me. Also my other Grandmaster, Taylor Kong called Taylor from out in

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Texas. He's in the book aswell. I don't know what page I
was in that book. Yeah,but that's the volume forty six. But
I don't know what the pages,but it's it's somewhere in there. And
how did you do that? Yeah? I was like boys, the only
guys karate something. So I apologize. It's okay, is uh if I

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was only this is like, thisis how the book looks. Yes,
so that's how it is right here. So this is my he's yeah,
the producer. We'll do the honors. So that's basically volume forty six.
Um the grand Master that came upwith the volume once on a martial Artists.
So there's other there's other volumes.You can find any volumes on Amazon.

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Um. I think it's for thirtybucks. That one is on Amazon.
Um. Gere Master Jay, who'smy grandma's who promoted me several times
in the arts, he's in thebook. And also card Master car Taylor
from Texas is also in that bookas well. So it was a college
basically of pictures that they took Umgird Message, Ted get Um Dead,

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Gabriella, Bad with Names, NoBad with Names comes so and then lastly
this book right here is this whatis from Poland? So what happens with
Poland is with Poland. I've beenum since the pandemic. I got down
with Poland. And Poland does theseonline tournaments where you do like different tournaments

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and stuff like that. So whatthis book is basically is, uh,
it's from it's martial artists from overseas. So there are people, I think
it's maybe like one or two fromAmerica, but mostly it's from Germany,
Sweden, uh, Poland, Israel, um about four or five. And
what they do is that you dowrite your biography and um, I'm trying

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to get the page. I don'thave highlight. So basically what they did
was is that you write your bioright here. It's basically the bios right
here, So you bite, youwrite your bio on this, So you
write your buio on this and that'sthat's that's basically the buioup sorry post.
So that's the buyo right there.And then and then when you're going you

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buyout, it talks about that youcould give a brief suscript of your history
and they put like colleges of picturesas well in there, so you know
it's it's um that book, it'snot for sale. That one was what
happened. We all worked. Sowhat we did was we worked out a
deal. Um. So it's basicallyhe tells me like thirteen books so to

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give out and um. So weworked on this back in John and I
was going my way to goal toan award ceremony up in um Atlantic City
with Cee for Alan Goldberg. SoI'm on the bus for two hours working
on this bio and the bio becausedoctor Jeffrey Smith, who's been my mentor

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with my life, we worked onthis. We worked on bios a lot,
and I have a pattern or acertain themes when it comes to the
bios. So most of my teamsare based on what was going on in
my life. And I was tryingto give a bio on this one,
which was based a brief bio abouta lot of stuff that a lot of
martial arts try to fit in mysize eleven shoes, so they try to

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understand my silence eleven shoes. Sobasically that's where this bio came from.
I got think, um Polanco whenI says the Polanco because when we we
we was communications. She's one inBaltimore. She was the one to introduced
me to Poland, so where Polandis like, they will send me on
Facebook messenger, Hey, we gotthis event coming up up. We want

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to see if you can do acotta for us. So I'll do a
cotta and I'll video the cotton andI'll do with the weapon border breaking whatever
they were asking for, and Isend it out and then they're saying they'll
look at it and review it.They'll sending a war certificate. Also,
I've got with Germany as well,Um, the Martial Arts Association m A

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is called I'm a part of themas Woven. So then both Germany and
Poland they know what goes on withmy martial arts. They backed me up
as well, so as the Paul. So I'm basically really international with a
lot of stuff that goes on,and all because the Grandmaster Anthony and Anthony's
Worldwide Martial Arts. Because you know, I took a leap of faith and

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they haven't drowned since then. Youknow, sometimes you got took a leap
of faith in life. Sometimes,Hey man, listen, i'mone. Before
we continue, let's get a plausfor this man, Okay, I have
the honor turn them over over tenyears actually, and um, he is
an amazing guy. He's a bigshout to college or part of them,
and he has worked his tail offbeing a single dad. God bless you

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know. He's a great daughter,great family. Um. You know,
he's to bigger into the marshal Arts. He gonna talk more about that in
a few minutes. And he's donea lot, a lot of great things,
you know, and just keep doingyour thing. And I always tell
people that we all go through certainsituations in life, right and we come
to realize sometimes you know how theysay if they don't kill you, makes
you stronger. Yeah, And withthose situations, we're gonna talk about that

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in a few minutes, about howyou went through certain things and how you
overcame it, talking about now allthe accolades, did you mention right now?
That? But before that, quickly, I just wanted to let people
know where they can follow us.You guys could follow me on my Instagram
at official veriog where they could findme. Basically, you can find me
most most all social platforms. Um. I took the nickname C Train six

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one on TikTok because my great Masteris called a train, So I am
C Train six one on TikTok TikTokUm. I do a lot of videos
on TikTok as well, but Idon't put a lot of martial arts out
there. Um. You know alot of criticisms that goes on out there
on Facebook. I am also CJRivera on Facebook, also on Instagram the

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same thing as well Twitter as well. So you know that's well they could
find me in mostly on social mediaplatforms. Um. And that's about.
You know, I'm here in NewYork, the Boogie Down Bronx, you
know, proud of the being theBronx, and it's proud of being Monroe
and um not how that became,it was very deep. And we're gonna
go into a lot of stuff,guys. We will go to a lot
of stuff because there's been a lotof boon che che a lot of fuels

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got so basically, guys, gotSo that goes on and and and and
I've been silent because if you lookat the Bushido Code, I think one
of the main things in the bushwhich is eight colds, is basically eight
virtues that you live by, andI think the first one should be self
control and anything in life, youhave to have self control and be in

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control what's going on, no matterwhat is coming at you, whatever storm
there is, and sometimes it isin the Bible we say God, you
ask out why you're going through astorm. You look at the Book of
Joe. God put Joe through certainthings in life to see how to test
his faith. And if you ifyou go through that in life and you
pass the tests of faith, Joewent through everything in life and took away

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everything that was there and he stillhad his faith. So you go through
the tribal relations and you go throughthe storm. Sometimes you know why you're
taken to the deep water's lord becauseyour enemies can't swim. So some of
the enemies can't not swim sometimes.So if that's where and this all comes
from from beating Monroe. As I'mdying and you know, being re equated
with certain people in my life andI want to get I'm gonna give a

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like a synopsis basically of pieces ofwhat it is, because like I said
before, and I under this cooton tiktokle facebook what it was, you
know, some people would try tofeel it walk your shoes, right,
That's why everybody's different sides, differentdifferent shapes, right, Not everybody's the
side of eleven. So some peoplewill try to figure out what side to

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try walking your shoes, But canthey actually walk the shoes that you steps
that you took and survived, becauseif they see what you survived, what
you've been through in life, youknow what I'm saying. There's those that
say, oh, I want toraise the boogie down Bronx, but meanwhile,
really didn't go through the childs andtriblations I go into briefly because I
can't really go into because it's alot of personal stuff out there. You

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can't go into too much, butyou could say what you've been through in
life and this those individuals I gotreceipts or I got this about CJ,
but don't know the syllabus, don'tknow what goes on in the marshaws,
don't know what goes on really.And I do these podcasts with child to
Ronica and Jason as well because Icome under on these platforms to express,

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manage, not to bash nobody,not to talk and everybody nobody. We
did Ronie six one to try tobring lightness to some people that to see
what goes on in my life.You know there were some people on since
time. They were like, man, was we never thought you could do
a katana strike with with doing thefigure eight with a katana certain way.

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I never seen it. I wantto talk literally told me that I never
is out of Detroit. He's I'venever seen someone opened the katana the way
you did. Wow. And he'slike, where are you learning from?
Said, I told myself. Andand that's and that's once again, guys,
And that's where I would give abrief the scripture of everything that goes
on in life. And with allthese accolades there is because when I came

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into my row, I only hadhigh school diploma, junior high school UM
paperwork. I had auxiliary paperwork fromfrom when I was started when I was
seventeen years old, which I haddone almost three thousand hours of community services.
So there's there's there's a lot inthere that people don't understand. I
met borough presidents, I met congressmenand stuff like that as well. But

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we're gonna go into all that alittle boy, a little and you're gonna
unravel the onion because on you gotmany layers. Everybody has layers, like
you know, like like Shruck saidit to the Donkey and the first the
first movie. You know, youknow, organs are like onions and you
have many layers. We have manylay You can't figure out somebody in one
day. Just because you said insomebody's house, or somebody's car, or

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somebody's or or you sold people around, you don't know what they went through
life. Very true. Now beforewe get into like anything you mentioned,
um, I do want to talksuch a base about the docum film which
you mentioned, A big shout toyou and Jim Prily made it. Who
made this happened? And that wasa fire. It was a fire because
everybody. It was because we wasgetting so much it was it was crazy.

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Well, I'm gonna say something andI and I told Jason the same
thing. So Jason, this documentaryis will before goes be fired because they're
gonna be those out there that aregonna try to shut this down. And
I told Jason, we're not gonnashut this down because because what happens is
that when you talk to truth andpreach the truth, it's gonna come out
that what's going on. And whathappens is that I was a part of

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a circle that and like my friendsshout to my good friend, sensing Mike,
because I'm sensing Mike has become thatbrother I need or a brother that
I need. And he said,like this, what do you what does
CJ wants to do? You needto stop listen to those that are trying
to tell you what do And that'swhat I was trying. That's what I

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was doing. I was doing whatpeople told me to do and not do
what I wanted to do with myheart and in my heart has always been
to try to create something that doctorSmith taught me how to help the youth.
I mentor the youth with him,I go back to my school,
Monroe College, and give back tothe youth. So that's what the documentary

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was. It was basically me andJason and unscripted. There was no script.
This was just off the script.It was based on what I present
at Monroe College, but a PGversion because I couldn't give the already version.
It had to cleanly clean it upbecause like I said, I'm not

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gonna go too deep and too personalbecause I have a daughter and I don't
want my daughter. It's not readyto up the things that there's there is
there's everything has to be brought outlike slowly like a baby crawls and then
they running and walking and there hasto be like that, So shout out
again. And I have had peoplewho have looked at them, and my

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co workers have looked at it.Some of them, um, some of
the case workers looked at it.And it can you know, not be
calling show enough and all this otherstuff you know as well, you know,
you know, and then you know, going back to my roots again,
you know, knowing that I waswaking a certain area and my martial
arts, going studying hard for threeyears on jiu jitsu and getting my blue
belt within three years. You knowwhat I'm saying. So it's a lot

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involved, you know what I'm saying. And that's where like RONI was where
where roni means somebody that there's alot of people say RONI me's negative.
No, RONI means either there areyou in the samurai days, either served
your time to your Daniel or toyour show gun and you moved on,

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or or like what happened for fortyseven Ronan, they became forty seven was
because there Daniel did they was betrayedby somebody. But they could not seek
revenge. But because they decided tosecre revenge, that was against the code
and they had to because what theyhad to do was called subuco, which
means that you're going to commit suicide, and you have to commit suicide by

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basically disembowing your stomach. So youtake your sword and you could self with
the stomach. That's what So,that's what it is. So that's what
I took the word roning because Ifelt like I was roning. I always
been at roning because even though Ihad teachers, I was still out there
going to tournas by myself. Iwas self promoting myself self, doing everything
on my own. Nobody ever saidhere's here's one hundred dollars for you to

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go compete, or here we payyour bus ticket. The only people that
was there was my mother, doctorJeffrey Smith, some other people in within
my circle that was there, butnobody from any of the schools I was
a part of. So and thatthat's what and that's where it was.
We're gonna go into a lot ofthat stuff because it's a lot to unravel,
because it has to be unraveled becausenow three four or five years later,

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it's like, give see the HomerSimpson mean when he come out the
bushes and not people want to saythings and hide back in the bushes.
And then you forget that when youget a title in the public view,
right your title, it will beout there. I remember I was seventeen
years old Peel Barfield with my axiltycorner and he told me now that you're

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an auxiliary officer. It's not gonnabe Rivera on the New York Times or
newspaper that done something wrong and it'sgonna be auxiliary. So whether you be
a pastor, deacon, grand masksor whatever it is, if you look
at what if you do wrong,it's gonna have that title attached to it.
Yeah, so true about that.And I just want to say I
commend both for you guys for thisamazing story. Tell me on what you

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have gone and encountered and went throughand you you surfased so much and you
know, like I said's called Ronniesixty one right now. Ever, going
to see someone out now on YouTube, you guys can check it out.
Veronica GE's page. And I wasgoing vial G's page, and you're gonna
vial GI's page and you could getit right there, guys and thousand and
everybody out there, because it's it'san actual story by my life. And

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it was crazy because you had certainindividuals that when he't heard it, then
they came out of the woodworth andreally told the truth how they felt about
me. And then that's how youfind out because I never disrespected nobody in
the martial arts. I never amgonna beyones with you. I never disrespected
nobody in Marshalarts. When this wasall the negativity that was going on.

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Grandma and your grand Master is supposedto take care of thee and people within
my circle, within antis worldwide Marsharts. As we got you CJ, We're
gonna take care of this. Andthat's why I stood silent and I helped
self control. And the time Icame on these shows was was to promote
what I was trying to promote andtell my side of the story. But
then we but then you have,like I said, once again, they

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are trying to fit in that sizeof leven shoe and don't understand what's going
on. Like the same thing withyou in the music with right people would
try to try to bash somebody butdon't understand what's going on in the music
industry or don't understand what is thereto be to sacrifice? Yes, to
get into life. Very true,very true in many ways. And I
feel like overcoming you what she wentthrough, what I went through in a

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different situations, but kind of similar. I feel like, you know,
we overcame that. We're all thewarriors, were the ones. Are you
doing whatever? They kind of throwingout of us. No matter what,
You're still here. You're getting aculatedit you people cannot even reach to your
two level. So it's like it'slike what it was. Let's we could
start this out like this when growingup? Right, growing up in the

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Bronx. Right, there's thoses,Oh, I was raised in the Bronx.
I gow up to the Bronx.I was raised in the Bronx.
Yes, I was in a bluecollar neighborhood where it was a working class
neighborhood. Right, But you stillwhen you left that working class neighble,
but you still had a bump intocertain sort the areas one any third and
ride and one a third grand concourseyou had to go. I spent some

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of my time, a lot ofmy youth on hunts Point Seneca playing basketball
in front of the building, andmy cousin's mom got wrest The soul were
watched downstairs, and when it wastime for the adults or the other people
to play basketball, we either wentdown the block to play basketball. All
right, and at a certain timewe knew we had to be back in
that house because we knew that everyonewas hot. Hunts Point and shunts Point

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was zave Bronx was hot. Gettingon that nineteen bus and seeing all those
burnt down buildings, it was hot. And even in down today's world,
seeing what's going on in the South, Bronx to going around, seeing the
gentification, seeing things that's going on. I've seen those things, see you
know what I'm saying, I've seenthat. You know I didn't. I
didn't, you know, And Iwas raised around that. You know,

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I was unfortunately where both parents,you know, they were they were trying
to be parents. But I wasraised around that. You know what I'm
saying, You know I was.I was. I didn't have the blessing
where my parents say or you weak, my we're gonna put your karate.
No, my karate or my lifestylewas to survive the bronx. And if
you survived the bronx. If yousurvived it either either if you had the

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blessings and a village that raised you, you you came out unscratched. If
not, you came up where itwas. Either you was locked up,
you was you call addiction problem,whatever it may be. But if you
had that village and seeing what wasgoing around me once again, see what
was going around me, it's like, nah, I can't, I can't

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do this. This is this isthis right here, It's not where I
see life is gonna take me.And so you know, to me,
that's amazing because like I said,we're going through so much in the hood,
and we've seen things in our time, even like even now our generation
or kind of understand what we wentthrough back then. And like I said,
you're going through the bullying, CIBAbull and you went through so much

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and going through that a little bit. Talk about that quickly, Um how
did you overcame it? And tellthe viewers are watching now, um how
could they overcome that as well?What I want to do is I have
a famous quote that I love,right and it's a quote that says,
not knowing the truth doesn't make youAnyoran. Not wanting to know the truth

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is what makes you anyoran? Right, so uneducated, like we say,
so, how you become that?Well, when you are a child that
have been bullied all your life,right, been bullied, you learn how
to deal with it with either youstep up to a plate and fight the
bully. But that's why I dida lot of times step to the plate.

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I've been I got jumped, Igot in fights. I got into
a lot of fights, you know. And even when I was in Catholic
school, I still got into fights, you know. So I have a
Catholic school education. So how youovercoming? How you overcoming is is you
have to have a support network.Now, what's said is that the martial
arts promotes this glorious um front.Sorry to say some of it is not

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a front. I'm in rephrased andnot up front, but they put this
whole glorious thing out there, andwithin the end the workings, you will
have those that will sign but bootyyou that will just try to destroy your
character because you decided not to gowith their path or decided to not go
their way. And then I thinkwhat I did was almost eight years ago.

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I started reading books, and Istarted doing my own self education because
one thing I learned from Monroe andone thing I left for doctor Smith was
always to research on your own.And I took the same method when I
was in Monroe when I was goingto be born again Christian. So when
I was going to be born againChristian, I said, there in Monroe's
library, I had three Bibles.I had a King James, I had

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a Student Bible, and I gotto the third Bible, and I had
a book that it was like atextbook that helped me understand the Bible and
try to get with God. AndI said, there and self educated myself
in that. And what's funny waswhen my daughter was born, I was
in Jacoby with my daughter's mother atthe time gave my daughter's checkups. A

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lady was reading that same textbook.It was reading the same knowing knowing,
and I was sitting I'm like,and she said, her church uses that
book to do there when they're gonnabecome baptized. And I said, there's
like years later, there's like twoor three after I did. I said,
I read that book. I readthat book. So believing in self
education, so I took the sameaspects of when I was in auxiliary of

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self education to the same thing Ilearned in Monroe self education. So I
decided to do my own self education, my own research, and I decided
to say, okay, this onebook let me into where it was where
there have been a book in Cortas, a book on Bushito, a book
on this the martial arts, virtuesand values tiled they're gone, and then

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get into different books, and thenjust doing my own self research and then
finding out the history. Like there'sa book that I bought the it's it's
on the good to history, butit's also on the Karate though, and
it's a timeline, so it goesfrom nineteen hundred all the way to two
thousand and two when the book waspublished. And the book is backed by

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the Congress, now the library Congress. Now the book you can't find it
because now it's out of print.So now you're gonna get the book.
You want to buy the book,You want to pay five hundred when you
could have paid eight dollars. Iwas trying to promote them. I was
promoting the book big time. Andwhat was great about the book was that
when I was doing my research.It was talked about titles and all this
stuff. You had other martial artiststalk about what oh, yeah that title

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was abolished, But yeah, Iwas talking about Saran Show. Saran Show
was the original title before became Ranchiback in nineteen thirty. And I've been
talking about the different titles, thedifferent belts, and how the books were
created and how things were in themartial arts. Then you have those out
there. I said, well,this what happened. But you're not given
a timeline or you're not given anaccurate description of what goes on. And

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you know what I like about whenMike is again, When Mike I went
to him and I give him myresume. I said, this is what
I have. Mike looked to melike, I don't want that. I
want who I want CJ. Iwant the person that I know that I
ain't seen in all these other eventsthat we go to. I want to
see what you can do. Andit was an honor that during the pandemic,

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right dependent, I got to doa semin all on my own.
And it was like the first twodays I had everything planned out. Third
day I was like, I didn'tplan for a third day, but I
planned out for you know, Idid what I do and it was great.
But that's what goes on in themarshal arts. They try to say,
oh, we believe in the virtuesof the martial arts, we believe

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in all this. But yet thoughthey will sit there and say, well,
I have receipts on CJ. SoI seen CJ when he was a
blue belt or a green belt,and he's a prop belt and he's a
brown but in a black belt.Not understanding the first all you understand the
Rushi syllabus. Ruishi was where Ifirst got into I got back into God
Drew I was. That was mythird time getting back into Go Drew.

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If you do understand that when Iwent to Ruishi, I was supposed to
go in there with the belt thatI walked. I left America's finance with,
which was I was close to agreen belt, and my koshi,
Tomini, told me we are goingto honor that rank. But then he
came and said, no, yougotta go back down to white belt.
Okay, So I said, okay, fine, I go back down a

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white belt. What was great aboutThomasin was he allowed me to go out
and training other aspects, which wascrowdman god, kick boxy and let me
go where I wanted to learn anddidn't mind me going to that. And
that's why I met see food Mark, which got me to crydma God,
That's why I got to meet Jay. I got to meet grand Master Anthony.

(27:52):
Um well, the person actually interestedme, grand Master Anthony was grand
Master j And it was also man, my mind went blank. Now Danny
Bolden Danny Bowlden, So Danny votedDanny Bowlding GM's Danny Bolding And Grandmaster Jay
was the one that opened the door, gave me to open the door for
me to speak to Grandmaster Anthony,which Grandmaster Anthony who's a veteran who was

(28:15):
disabled through because of his combat.But before his combat, he was a
well established marshal artist already he alreadywent to he was established marshal arts.
But what happens that on the Eastcoast, they don't know what goes on
in the West, in the Midwest, so they don't know what so they
out like it's like what we say. Because of social media, now you

(28:36):
can see what goes on, butat that time you didn't know who these
people were. You might have knownwho they were, but you didn't wasn't
focus on So that's where it openedup for me. So and then we
told me cene was it killed youthem to see was the reason why I
went to him was again my stepbrother Hector was the one that told me
to leave American's Finals to go withhim, to train with him because I

(29:00):
figured one on one and it wouldhelp me out. You think you understand
the syllabus with us, It waswhen you got to intermediate belt, right,
So in beginning belt. In thebeginning belt system that we have,
a rishi was white. Then youhad a belt that was white, was
white out with a yellow line onit. He got yellow, yellow and

(29:21):
black, orange and orange black,then it was blue, then blue and
black. There was green, greenand black. Then it was three rounds,
three different color browns, and thenyou got your black belt. That's
how Rureshi was Once again people outthere talking about certain things that they don't
know about. They don't know rushisystem. So and then what happened was
Thormsini. It's a great martial artist. His style was opening out with Kempbell,

(29:45):
so he didn't know Ruishi Godju.So how I learned how to break
down and edited videos and look atvideos and learn coatas on the internet and
getting Skype and all his other stuffwas through him, because see he didn't
know what gold. He did notunderstand. He understood martial arts, he
had a foundation for martial arts.He had experiences in marshal arts, but

(30:08):
he didn't have he didn't have anunderstanding of of gold yourru. There was
different styles, different systems. SoI was looking at it was I'm coming
into this this individual to learn Ilove gold Youu because I when I was
with doctor Jeffrey Smith when I wasstarting in Monroe, were studying goldjiu and

(30:30):
then we studied twice in two differentplaces. It didn't work out. Certain
people left, but you know Smithalready had his black belt in certain areas,
so I wanted to continue on withgoldireu. But he didn't want to
go because I didn't know how tolook at it in New York. But
now here we go. So hehad every cotta on a tablet, so
every kind of mean, every conductand every belt you learn a new kinda.

(30:55):
So that's how it was. Ialways doing one to introduced the side
to ruy should gold drew because Ifelt as though that so I love the
commas. That was the first weapon. I love the commas. I love
the weapon, so I wanted touse a new weapon. So I learned
the side and then someone helped meout with how to flip the weapon whatever
how to do it. But Ilearned the side through YouTube, through different

(31:17):
people, so I brought the sideinto the whole game. What happened was
when I was at the purple level, I was already I already earned my
black belt in Applete Rangers and atthe time I was divided by Kiyoshi h
I was right by the kyoshi togo up to a black belt test that

(31:41):
he had and and when I wentto the black belt test that that there
was um. I had my blackbelt for the crime guy, but I
had my also my gear for karateas well, so I had both of
mine. I said, if theywant me with my color belt gold Drew,
I with my color belt gold Drew. But I wore my black belt
as in crowd and God. Andthis was Yushka Dojo for the grand master's

(32:05):
name. So I was there andthen and then I was told I was
not supposed to wear my black beltbecause I didn't have a black belt for
karates. So the politics getting MarshalLarks so so she and Cruise basically so
she on Cruised so that I couldnot wear my black belt ever again because
I didn't go through a test,and then I felt kind of lord,

(32:28):
I felt okay, fine, Ididn't mine. So when grand Master Jay
heard about what happened, Jay gaveme a black belt in his system that
same year that I got my Crimemegod belt, but again I didn't want
to wear it because I was ready. Was told several times that I couldn't
not wear my black belts in theold systems because I never got tested,

(32:50):
and then I felt like giving himon karate because with Thomasini was I felt
that for two years I was stuckin the same corduct, which it was
cipher and I wasn't being I wasn'tfeeling like I was getting motivated. I
lost the motivation. So when Cruisetold me come to my school and we're
gonna I'm gonna promote you to abrown belt. So we were supposed to

(33:13):
do the brown belt during the timefrom May all the way to July.
It was more than five classes becauseI have. I have everything screenshot that
we did and that's why I sendyou guys information everybody so they could know
that God forbid something happened to me. They know this what happened. So
during that time frame, I wasgoing from work to White Plains, New

(33:37):
York, take Ober and go trainwith him. And then that's how it
started out with Cruise. But duringthe time I was with Cruise, I
was during the whole time my Marshaw'sjourney. I was always training with different
people, running college with Gurgle DonSantos, which actually was Bruce Lee's right

(33:57):
hand man. What so held seminarsin New York. Take those two seven
two days of seminars, learned thecolleague six shop in the college six once
a year when I went to Pittsburghbecause they had a colleague program as well.
So I'll sharp in the colleagues crimeaGod, it's crimea Goud that we
learned was law enforced to crime andGod. So I would add my law

(34:19):
enforcement experience in the crimea guy aswell. So what happened was it was
supposed to be a contract that Isigned with Cruise. This once again with
people don't know what was done.I was given a contract in May and
this was the contract. Hold on, guys, because people want it.

(34:45):
You got to hear the truth.And there's people out there that's lying and
they trying to manipulate and they're tryingto tell a story that they don't can't
tell. And I've been saying thisfor years. So it was a contract
for a brown belt with the blackline. Then three months later we was

(35:07):
gonna go for the black belt.What happened was that July he changed it.
Crew said we're gonna give you ablack belt. Now. Still in
the marshal Ow community, someone waslike, oh, you know, it's
great that he's gonna get this,but we never heard that before. But
if you never heard about it,then it has to be again. And

(35:30):
all of all the books I read, I can name every book that I
read. It's up to your grandmaster, to your sensor, to your
shion, to whatever title they weregiven. If they felt that you was
ready for that title, go forit. And I was. I went
for it, and we've trained exactlyhow the test was gonna be. That

(35:52):
Thursday, I once again went toWhite Players, New York, took my
uber ride for a couple of minutesup to his dog Joe up and dobbs
very thick. It was whatever itwas, and then then he moved.
He moved to Jojo furthermore, becauseI don't know what happened. We went
to a dance school whatever it was. Thanks to great We're good too,
good dying good pieces over there.But so we go up there. So

(36:15):
um, he dropped me off likehe would drop me off in the train
station. So he said, Isaid, what my train you know is
I don't want to wait in thetrain station because it's kind of dark.
Whatever it was. I was scared, but they're everywhere. It was kind
of scarchy where it was at.So he dropped me off for white planes
and in a certain individual wanted tobe a part of the test. I
told him, all right, Iwas not a fear. I'm not scared

(36:37):
of nobody. I have no fear. I've been in plenty of situations where
i have no fear. And Isaid, I have no fear. I
just don't want the person there.I was told by San Cruz several times
on the phone conversation that individuals don'tgetting involved, that individuals gonna involved,

(36:57):
that individually gonna involved, it gotinvolved, and then when we went out
to eat that dinner that day,I can't speak on this person because then
a longer here was when I showedmy mom the video. My brother was
there. I got a black beltfrom my brother as well. So when
I walked away from that, Iwalked with four black belts. Wow.

(37:19):
So I had a black beltter crimea guy, a black bet from Grandmaster
j a black belt for my brotherwhich was considered introduction black belt, but
still it's a black belt. It'sa black right black belt that she CRUs
that took away from me the showdon because I went to to this test
a couple of a year ago.I re earned that belt and ended up

(37:43):
getting Sempie title. And then heended up leaving New York. So then
who I'm left with? So I'vebeen I'm so used to doing things on
my own. I kept on trainingmy daughter, I kept on working in
in in a location, worked onmy own, worked on my crab.
And that's when where Master Jason,I'll promote you to a U a fourth

(38:07):
degree in my system, because hecouldn't give me a certificate because you know,
personal things was going on in hislife. I respected and I was
respected his space. I never Inever asked nobody for nothing. I never
did. Everybody blessed me with whatI had. So that's when me and
Grandma's Anthony got in and took conversations. Anthony promoted me to fifth on a

(38:29):
basis where I had to Now itwas a fifth, but then I had
to also earned it as well,where I had to do a syllabus,
I had to create a system.I had to do a thesis as well,
had to show my style. Andthat's where I got to me.
Carl Taylor called Anthonis Junior, CarmathisJunie. I met who did an organization.

(38:52):
Yea wazir uh he wazir no.Wi was here seeing everything I've done
because every time Grandma Santhony came toNew York, which was like six or
seventy times, a loud mouth hereand I'm back here with part two.
Uh with CJ the Terror CJ.Rivera and uh it's uncensored here we're talking.

(39:15):
I'm about it all and the lifeand career. I've decorated um police
peace officer for over twenty years andalso decorated mixed martial arts artists and everything
C. CJ. Rivera and everything. So continue on, um what you

(39:40):
was talking about and then also Igot a hot topic for you. So
so basically yeah, so basically,you know, when it comes to the
martial arts, Um, everything thatI have done, I have done everything
with respect, honor, didity,civility, and I've been blessed, you
know, always, I've been blessed. But there has been those in the

(40:01):
Marshal Arts community that try to understandor discredit me because they see the pictures
and they see stuff of media veryugly. They see me in different hall
of fames, a different hall offame events, and I've been blessed where
a lot of hall of fames havehave honored me as for my inspiration martial

(40:22):
arts um USA, UM, you'llsay International Hall of Fame as as as
well, UM and other other onesas well, even overseas. Um.
You know, I'm not a fraud. I'm not a fake. I've worked
hard as everybody has in the MarshalArts. I respect everybody's time in the
Marshal Arts. But we live ina generation now where you have to stand

(40:43):
this. Everything changes, it cannotstay. If you studied the Marshal Arts
Marshalts has always stayed lay changed.In the book the Cartas where Grandmaster Javier
wrote recently there was a grand masteror a teacher, I think students are
a student. He went and hefound nine uh nine different teachers, so
since his kilches and he was tryingto learn the coda which was called Sempie

(41:07):
and he found out that there's ninedifferent versions of the Kada. So that
means Marshal Arts changes. Everything hasto change in Marshalarts. We can'tnot keep
everything to the old ways. Ifyou look at the gracies, look what
the gracies did, and they reallyshowed that the Marshalws needs to change and
everything has it has to change.Everything has evolved. We don't see it,

(41:28):
and we don't see everybody walking onthe iPhone ones and the iPhone or
Galaxy ones. Everybody has a newtechnology. So I never disrespected anything in
the Marshal Arts. I never didthat. I always worked hard for I
got and worked and bust my tailoff and triple Crown awards. Everything came
you know through what through hard workand dedication. And you know it's sad

(41:52):
that I think what in the momentthe worst part of it is. I
don't mind those descyperate bulling. Idon't mind it. I don't mind it
at all because it just tells meI'm doing something that no other Marshaarts is
done, where it is go froma purple belt to a black belt and
then less in this in three yearsor whatever it is earned my fifth degree,

(42:15):
got is certified. I gotta confirmedby multiple people, multiple organizations,
done what other Marshats have done.Right, It's okay for people to flip
the belts, flip the titles,do this, do that. It's okay
for them. But when CJ doesit, it's you know, all I
wore me, And it's sad becausein the Marshawts we're supposed to have in
secret, we supposed to have allthis in the arts. You know what

(42:37):
I'm saying. And I'm blessed tobe where I'm at, you know it's
I'm grateful and I'm trying to dowhat doctor Jeffrey Smith did for me when
I was a kid. Try togive a child, a person I may
not have a father in the lifeor father for your life, to give
them what I got and pass onwhat it was bringing it to me,
you know, and the saddest partwas it destroyed a family. You know,

(43:00):
my brother, me and my mystepbrother, we all come from different
mom but Samet Pops, we don'tcommunicate. We don't communicate no more.
We don't communicate no more. Andbecause of this whole situation with the martial
arts and the reason why we don'tcommunicate it because of what he did.
Yeah, basically what he did,and it happened to my birthday. And

(43:22):
he said that I betrayed the family, you know, so he said I
basically betrayed the family. Basically hesaid, you know, well, I
want to get vel g in herebecause we have a hot topic here.
So I love my brother. Irespected my brother. I still respect him,
love him, you know. Butwhen he deal on my birthday was
kind of wrong. And he saidthat I had betrayed the family, and

(43:43):
said, what I betrayed the familybecause because why I wanted to choose my
own path. And my dad hada situation, health situation last year,
and my dad was like, hey, your brother's here and I want to
I said that I'm not here todispect nobody. I'm here for you.
I'm here to be here for youto support you. I gave my brother
dad and I went downstairs and Iwaited, and instead of my brother coming

(44:04):
down and say, you know what, let me talk to my brother,
Let's have a conversation. Let's goit's some pizza up the block, let's
go over here, let's go somewhere, let's just talk. And it never
happened. And I'm gonna I'm notgonna sit there and explain myself. You
know, you want to go aroundand say things about your brother, and
that's fine, you know. Andthat's what's really upsetting because I looked up
to him. I wanted to beathim. I would. I didn't care

(44:28):
what it costs, what it did. I wanted to be like him.
That was one person I looked upto. And it is sad that I
never betrayed a family. I neverdid. I never betrayed my family.
And like when my one of mysiblings told me, like, you know,
I learned where I was raised asa single child, a single sibling,
and I looked back and I said, you know what, You're right,

(44:50):
because I never remember none of us, none of us gatt together for
birthdays, another getting together for anythingbesides the death in the family or whatever
it is, and that's how howit is. So I've always been respectful
to the marshal arts. I alwaysrespected everybody's journey in the martial arts.
But when it comes to me,it's like, you know what, they

(45:10):
sit here and they look at thesocial media platforms. How did he do
this? How? And again?The size again the shoe right everybody.
And there's a proverb in the martialarts where everybody has their own journey,
the own way, their own path. How you get to that journey.
I didn't take no show cuts.At the end of the day. When
you read these history books, whenyou read this, there's been where soakis

(45:32):
are twenty one years old and thefifth degree back in the days in the
seventies and sixties, you know they'rethere. And that's all. It's a
title. If you're a teacher,you're saying, say, feels though that
you earned it. And Graham andsee fool Rick gave me c the Sakie
title was because so I can runmy own business, so I can help
those in the martial arts. Andthat's what Soaki Meanski has many meetings to

(45:55):
it is that a grand master.It just means you're head of the family
and you are in charge of thefamily and this it is. But then
you have some martial arts said,well, if the soci titany come from
this Japanese clan or this Japanese family, then your faith, then that person
is not real. Now you makeit a personal issue. See now you
you went from being a historical documentto now being making it personal. That's

(46:20):
where I learned in Monroe College,and we took that classical research methods where
you can't make you can't make ahistorical document or research paper personal. You
can't put your personal feelings in it. When you put your personal feelings on
any type of thesis or any historicaldocument you try to put out there in
the social media world, on whateverplatform it is, you're not making a

(46:44):
person when you say that person isfaith. Why I believe that if this
individual did not go through this way, it's not right, it's not real.
But when you look, when youstudy the titles and you study the
history, and you go into thereal history of martial arts, you sit
there scratch your head like why isit that certain? Why? How did
we go from having four cordas sevencardas to now some systems having thirty three

(47:07):
cordas right? Or how do systemscreate their names? Like I took people
the time? Like do you didyou understand the actual history of goes through
all? Right? Do you understandwhere the terminology came from that we use
in the marshal arts. It's alanguage. Everybody has their own language,
Chinese language, Champanese language, Spanishlanguage, so marshals has own language.

(47:30):
In the law enforcement, we haveour own jargon. So we when we
write our papers or write our reports, they tell us we don't when you
go to court or when you writecertain documents, don't use police jargon.
Well, let's get your feedback hereon what happened recently in New York City
here um the murder of a homelessindividual called h Jordan Pearly. Yah.

(47:57):
He has you know, infamous youknow. Unfortunately, Um, he passed
away. He got murdered. Umthis over past week here in New York
City and the subways, and thathe's known on the internet for being uh
Michael Jackson, a renowned Michael Jacksonimpersonator and stuff like that. And unfortunately

(48:19):
there was a situation recently that hewas in the subway train and he um
got murdered. You know, speakingin your law enforcement of the background.
Whatever was he wanted to train,right, Okay, he was he's homeless
and he was asking to get likefood and yeah, yeah, he spassed
out. He's well, he's beento the GIL. That's what happened.

(48:42):
Was and he mentioned something he's gonnahurt you body in the train. Yeah,
he was trinding your lives. Yeah. Now there was an ex Marine
on that same train, yeah,Daniel Penny. Yeah, and he was
one of the guys. There wasa field of guys that were there with
him, but he was the onethat had choke hold him for fifteen minutes.
Yeah, he was being held downby twelve people. What the thing
is this? Now? This isthat's why it's going to get your feedback

(49:04):
on this as the officer, becauseand the fact that you know, as
a person with X Marine who hasbeen you know, military, we want
to call the Marines. They havea protocol, they have a certain they
have training. So and that's justlike, first of all, fifteen minutes,
that's two much time, and andthis and what what I what I
what I say to a lot ofthis right and from a criminal justice background

(49:25):
as well, I have. Youknow, if you don't want to see
the receipts, guys, you wantto see the receipts guys, those that
think that you brought this whole thing, I don't play. I haven't received,
right. This is degrees right here. I have degrees, I have
documents, So we want to seereceipts. In my mind, this is
this, this wisdom right here,we're talking about twenty years of wisdom and
in law enforcement. And I metI met Bronx Borough Presidents Dolful carry On

(49:51):
Junior when I was only eighteen yearsold. I was eighteen years old and
I met the Dolphul carry On Junior. I was chosen out of my command
those two officers per command to receivinga warfare, our standing services for our
community. So right, So forthose let's say I have no wisdom in
law enforcement, please do more furtherbackground check on me, all right,

(50:14):
because I go back to Monroe andI always do, and I learned from
some of the top professors. Godresssaw your Dougie Soul, Godress, A
lot of professors that passed away inMonroe because Monroe at one points in real
war education when it comes to lawwhat comes to law enforce. Right,
this is what I said, andI said this about what happened in Minnesota
as well. When you when youtake okay, when I'll put this,

(50:38):
when you have law enforcement personnel thathave zero martial art experience teaching others these
holes and not showing them the offenseand the defensive of these holes. I
have it where sometimes in my jobI have supervision to tell me the reverse

(51:01):
armbar or record a kimura revera.It may be held too long. I
said, but do you understand whatjointment relation is so you can articulate what
you're doing. And I understand thehuman body in marshial arts. You understand
the human body. You read thebubishi and the bibishi has a whole thing
of the body and the word thebook of cottas from Javier he wrote three

(51:24):
books to a day, which isalso goes to the jointmentiflation as well.
But when you take away the lawenforcement military, whatever it may be,
you take away that marshal Ark's experienced, somebody that has the years and experience
in martial arts. When you takeaway that person out, you may say

(51:45):
women revera, but that don't makeno sense. It does because you're teaching
somebody and a hold that they don'tknow the offense or the defense. And
you gotta remember that the tools onour belts are not offensive and more of
a defense. Now, when itcomes to the choke, we know as
a martial artist, and you cansee a TikTok a lot of the stuff.

(52:07):
A choke hold, you're going thewhole person for norm more than five
seconds, right, the normal personto be incapacity if you look at it
could be five seconds, it couldbe different. But at the end of
the day, a reverse that's areverse chokehold. Record a rear naked choked.

(52:29):
But the way he had a realnicked choke was more of circulation.
Circulation and where it was that hehad the weight of his arm. The
way he had a choke was fromhere to here. This is a choke
he had right, That is calleda long arm rear naked choke. So
a long one, I mean thatyou're now your forearm is on there and

(52:51):
now you're you're this arm. Nowyou're putting pressure of the head. Your
head is back in the hand.You're putting pressure on the back of the
head, all right, So thatI swear down you now you put the
person to sleep even faster, rightsort of, when you have a short
choke, A short choke is youhaving on the wrist bone, you have
what's called the grip. You're justgoing to call either gable grip or the

(53:12):
or the a script and you're doinga short joke. This is a short
joke, long choke show. Thisis long the short and this come from
Coach Javier that teaches us. UmaaJesus, guys, don't have you in
my mind. Um you know mycoach and my jiu jitsu. Um that
teaches us. Right. So whenwe learn in jiu jitsu the holds,

(53:36):
you learn the holds right, andyou learn when you are rolling rolling,
it's because to the sparring on howyou hold your person. Now, when
I spar when I roll my students, when I roll the good the guys,
I more of learning how to surviveon the ground because I know the
holds already. I have understanding theholes, so I robably just work on

(53:59):
how to su on my back.Survived getting the top. But when it
happened to the with the marine againand the marines, you're taught to survive,
no matter what there is, andyou gotta stand this. You got
two individuals, and I'm sorry tosay this because I bump ut a lot
as well, both have mental healthissues. All right, we are not

(54:23):
addressing the issue with our armed forcesare comfortable and I'm not trying to justify
what he did was wrong. Let'slook see this is how I look at
it, and let's go back tomy row again. Yeah, well it's
breaking news today. Daniel Daniel,Daniel Penny Um. They former the former

(54:46):
marine Um was charged today Um withthe murder of Jordan Peeley. And I'm
gonna take the I'm gonna ta thereal quick and and and and and I
agree with them with the DIVIVERTI agreewith it. You know, it was
a public case, so you haveto understand this as well. Where the

(55:06):
public is involved. You have agrand jury that sees what's going on,
and that's where But it was unjustifiablechoke because you should know. But again,
you have two people that have mentalhealth issues. Right, And I'm
sorry to say that because you knowwhy because going back to Grandmaster a train,
I've been around a train nine times. He've been in New York and

(55:30):
his wife's closed him up all thetime, and I know a train and
there's times that he has PTSD moments. I can handle people with PTSD moments.
It could be a PTS he coulduse that as a defensively once.
But then the day as a militarymarine, you are told to if I
am in a situation, I'm gonnado whatever I have to do to survive.

(55:51):
And we have and what we failto realize is now all of a
sudden, we want to blast themental health of the crisis. Mental health
has been a crisis nineteen eighty eights, in the eighties because it was the
way we will when we go backagain to Monroe, back to doctor Smith's
educational psychiatry, one on one,the d instutization of the mental health facilities.

(56:17):
Right, he goes, another thingwill happen. We had a pandemic,
right, yes, from my experiencewith the mental health in mind and
mind my environment. Did you understandthat it was at one point it was
a forty two hour hold before thepandemic, after the right a forty three

(56:37):
day hold, three day hold foranybody that had a mental health problem to
get the medicated, to get intoproblem medication. When we had the COVID
nineteen hit. Every hospital was like, okay, he come up with mental
health seven hour hold less than sevenhours. You know what, sit down,

(56:58):
We'll give you a medication, Go, go bout your business. So
we had an issue where now youhave a mental health population that was not
gained diagnosed property because of COVID nineteen. Now covidnity is gone. Now we
want to address a mental health crisishave been going on for years. The
DSN four, the ds IN fivehas all stated the mental health that goes

(57:19):
on and again it goes back again, like when when you and I said
this in one of my videos asa martial artist, if you're teaching self
defense, when I teach self defense, right, and this is one of
my secrets, and I to thisall the time, and I said,
all the time, I teach youthe law enforcement way. Now, instid,

(57:39):
I made two mistakes in law enforcement. Does my fourth diamends mistakes in
law enforcement? I said, upfor my responsibilities in mistakes I made lawenforcement.
But I still have a pedigree thatunmatchable that anybody speaks to you will
tell you when I teach the collegesticks, when I teach any weapon,
I'm not teaching hit the person aheadwith a weapon, right, And when
I see all the martial instructors,teachers, whatever titles that you call yourself,

(58:05):
you teach you people how to hitthem with a stick on the head.
You teach them how to hit themin a certain areas. I call
that a red zone. I don'tand I don't want to teach that at
all. When I teach it,I teach I teach you to hit the
green areas. Now, the onlytime you may hit the red area is
with a growing or the stomach.But do you know where to hit him

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at because at the end of theday, you got the spling, you
got the heart, you got allthis going on. So you learn it
in the lower force aspects. Sowhen I teach it, I teach you
the article thirty five. I teachyou the Pino cold way and how to
use the holds, and to tellyou that once you get the choke,
let go the choke. Yeah,you know, it's sad to have a

(58:47):
situation like this to bring the mentalhealth that's been going on. We have
a mental crisis, been going onthroughout the city for decades. And then
know what thing it's like, youknow, like if you remember your old
cartoons where you have the cartoons andthe cartoon characters sweeping the rug, pick
up the rug and throw the dirton the rug goes over it, and

(59:07):
so you see the like like JesusChrist. Now we have a problem.
And that's what it is. Thatit's a mental health problem that we have.
And it's a lot of mixed diagnosisgoing on, you know, and
and you know we're not monitoring ourmental health. And that's an issue that
this mayor inherited from a previous mayorthat really never dealt with the mental health

(59:30):
crisis that there was going on.Because we've been there for years, the
mentalth And I told you, Iconsider myself a master's degree in the streets
basically what it comes to doing themental health. I got stories and I
have to tell the moon those storieson corner. But the thing is that
I know how I learned that whenI'm on the train and I understand that

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there's a certain individual the train,I will not unless it's a life of
death situation and train you live themhim go, You let him go if
he's want to sit there, bakefor food, bake for money. Let
them do what they want to doas long as then, and it's why
when then? When? This iswhat I look at, as long as

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it not in fact committing a crimein my presence, whether I be law
enforcement or my civilian or whatever itis. Because you got understand, you're
a lawforc to twenty four seven.No matter what you take that oath,
you're a law fforces twenty four seven. I don't care what people say,
you're a lanforce twenty four seven,but I take that again. Going back

(01:00:34):
to Monroe College again, going backto the education and that gout for Monroe,
my bachelors being criminal justice. Again, you learned about that in fact
committed and what it was. Nownow we're going back to learning case laws,
which police department should have been doingcase law studies and wasn't. Going
back to constitutional law where I learnedin Monroe constitual law. I gotta aid

(01:00:57):
in that class the hardest has totake what's black class. But GOT don't
done, you know, despite whatwas going on, I gotta done.
Got I was told I had adyslexiation learningsability back in the days. Still
get things done and you motivate andyou look and you motivate your child,
you motivate your kids and stuff.But it's once again it's where it's a
mental health crisis that we've been dealingwith, and it's it's a and nobody

(01:01:21):
is like do you take this?Like this do is a matter? Right?
You take it? We're gonna keepboarding. You sweep under the rug.
Now you are sitting here. Wehave a mental health problem. Okay,
what are we doing for them?And now you're just trying to say,
you know what, We're gonna doadult community centers for the adult that
you know. But late, toolate, too late, too late.
And the thing is like mostly peoplewhy they want to go to shelters.

(01:01:44):
We don't have police in every shelter. We have security guards on every shelter.
There's best police, there's there's DHSpolice which I work for in the
day. They are in the mostprioritized shelters. But we but what happens
and you can't put us in everyshelter because there's no money. And that's
again once again, we have acity that it's a large city, five

(01:02:06):
boroughs. We have a homeless crisisgoing on now with the mental with the
with the migrants coming into this countryas wants us into the city as well,
you know, and once again whywe're not a safe city. What
they want to say, people gonnatake that out the head. Please understand
what goes on New York City againwhen that contras mayor, he was trying

(01:02:28):
to get rid of the homelessness.He didn't want to have the whole shelters.
But in the Constitution of New Yorkit states back in nineteen seventy six,
seventy seven, seventy eight, whenhe was taken to court seven for
those single men, single women andfamilies, found out that he was in
the wrong of shutting down the shelters. So they're gonna go, I mean
in the streets, the streets becausehe wanted to shut down the shelters.

(01:02:49):
He didn't want to provide any shelterfor the city. And when they went
into the Constitution of New York,they decided to figure that out. This
is what I tell people with theend of the day, if any type
of of conversations when it comes tolaw enforcement, you know, you know,
you have to learn what goes onwhen it comes to the martial arts.
It's a whole background into it thatIt's just that you know, you

(01:03:13):
know, it's one is unregulated.Sometimes sometimes nobody. You know, you
have you have to be careful who'swho's teaching your children, who's not to
your children. I guarantee how many, how many parents ever did background checks
on these teachers. And I'm nottrying to see nothing wrong about any teacher.
I'm not putting all negative Again,I am not putting on their teen
to or no body. But atthe end of the day, is are

(01:03:34):
you doing that as a parent?What are you doing to make sure your
children are in a safe space?That's very cruel, crucial, you know,
you know, so you know,as as as as a teacher,
you know, as a as aperson, as as a guidance. I
and have a third year daughter,you know, bless God, blessed with
my daughter. You know. WhenI teach martial arts, I teach based

(01:03:58):
on my little forcement experiens, basedon what I've dealt with, you know,
you know, And that's what getsme so frustrated with with the Marshalow
community is that you quickly throw stonesand rocks and boulders at me. Exact
but yet, though, yet,though you don't look at wait wait,
hold up, maybe he's up tosomething. You're teaching things to certain individuals,

(01:04:19):
right, And I tell these allthe time. I look at some
of these demos. Have you everdealt with what we don't call him um
emotion disturbed, we call him distressemotional distressed person. Have you ever dealt
with a most distressed person in reallife? Have you ever, in fact,

(01:04:40):
been in a situation where you've beenwith emotion sturb but emotional distressed person?
Yes? Yes, yes, ButI'm just as an instructive. I'm
telling an instructor. As an instructive, marshalows destructor different, it's all differ
boking. Yeah, So you're sittinghere trying to say, I'm gonna hit
the man ahead with a weapon,and this man is going eight ball on

(01:05:03):
you. Lord, right, haveyou ever done you know some of these
guys, some of these these thesethese you know, when you have somebody
in that in that realm, youcan't tag, you can't pepper spray,
you can't use the potok is illegal? Now? Yeah, I mean if
I'm saying as a law enforcement aspect, as law enforcement aspect, right,
I'm a law enforcement I know sometimesI can't use it. I've seen where

(01:05:28):
off on YouTube everywhere officers have usedthey have used their tasers on people who
they have mental health problems or somebodywho's who's on that height and you know
it's like it won't work. Soare you teaching? Are you teaching for
either the money or you just teachingit just because you was taught that And
as low as when I do mytraining is that I use my criminal justice

(01:05:53):
background, which once again yes Ihave. I have their ADVERAG seats it
there. When I went to Monroe, I went to Monrow with just my
junior high school diploma from Ardive Angels. I did go to typ of school.
That's what That's what kept me straightand narrow. My high school diploma,
my i e P Evaluation and everycertificate I did in security where I

(01:06:15):
was I was I had supervisors course, laws prevention, fire prevention, eight
hours, sixteen hours, multiple everything. Basically security brought it everything from from
from law enforcement, from award ofmerit um by my bronx Borough President Certificate
um, my Leteral accommodation for helpingfor nine eleven hours every day. I

(01:06:39):
brought in it by my pet,my part time peace officers, which it
continues on because because when I renewedmy regular peace officers status, it gets
renewed with that, my my parttime peace, my all my auxili training
I got. You know, Idid things in auxili where I can't even
say where I didn't auxiliy because Ijust can't mention it. But I did
a lot for my community where itwas where you know it was, it

(01:07:00):
was. Some of it was dangerous, so it wasn't you know. I
was seventeen years old. Seventeen yearsold with the police batch. Wow,
And that just tell you the responsibilitythere. And I remember Peter Barfield was
like saying to me, I don'tknow. I want to give you a
ship an id for you to take, and I say, trust people.
And that's what changed my whole lifewas for me to stay industry and narrow
was what the auxiliary was. Meand doctor Smith and and and you know

(01:07:26):
me and Smith. You know itwas how we actually re requated. It
was my mother was at Monroe whenI was sitting in my mom's class and
I'm looking at him like I knowhim for somewhere. I know him.
And I said to my mother,I know him for somewhere. I went
to Monrole and he helped me.He helped me get into mo role.
And all I needed was all Ineed was somebody just to give me the
key opened the door, and Ijust kicked I said, scowl to key,

(01:07:49):
kick the door down, and wentinto monrole with that. And I
wouldn't end there with just that andwalked out with that. Only of my
associates and my bachelors, deansless andseveral certificates as well from there. And
that's what this and I treat mymartial arts. I treat everything right.
I respect everybody, but to havethose in the martial arts there, whether
it be a pastor whether it beSidoshi Kiyoshi ransh, whatever it is,

(01:08:13):
to say, well, we don'tthink he earned this. And then here's
a crazy part. You teach yourstudents about not to bully. You teach
your students not to bully you.You bring in students that have a disability
where it be physical, mental,into your dojo. But meanwhile you go

(01:08:35):
and create a page, you createa blog, you create certain things and
talk about somebody hic. That's whereit's hypocritical, yeah right, and you
and you say, oh, well, I don't want to be known as
a pastor or I don't want tobe known as this at the end of
the day. What Peo Barford toldme and I always go back to this,

(01:08:56):
you go whatever title you was given, you will always be that title.
And you have a public title,not a private it's a public because
when you and I thought that asa pastor, I thought as a sadoshi
kiyoshi ran she's whatever you want tocall yourself, whatever title you want to
give yourself. I always thought thatin the martial arts you preach about the

(01:09:20):
bushido code, but you forget aboutthat. Each code links up to something
and I and the last one isalways being having self control. I mean
that you may you have to haveself control in all aspects, whether you're

(01:09:41):
angry, where you're upset, whenyou don't agree upon what somebody does in
life, you have to have selfcontrol. And then reading you know,
Grandma's Javier book on Kada's it mademe rethink of what a kata is and
I understand it's a movement, it'sa sequence, it's it's a blootprit of
a style, but it's a psychologicalaspect. When I saw a Pavlow theory
in there, I said back andI said, wait a minute, what

(01:10:04):
is Pavlow's theory doing in that book? And those aren't understand what pathlaws theory
is. Pavlows theory was he hada dog. So he sat there with
the dog. One right, Clascodid one on one when the bell rang.
The dog knew the foodbloo deal.So when he rang the bell getting

(01:10:25):
the door to gonna play with myfood, that we're all classic condition.
And then I did this speech toa Smith's class one day. True story.
I go to Smith's class and Isaid, I put a classic condition.
Smith look up there and I said, Pavlow theory explanation right. So
I'm sitting there and Smith was like, teach me, professor. He called

(01:10:45):
teach me, professor. So Igo, we're all classic addition for the
day we are born, Yes,to day we are conceived, to the
day were born. And he said, how I figured out on my own,
but actually it was helping from somebodyelse. I was going to a
tournament. They'll talk about the bell, right, So we're talking about the

(01:11:06):
bell, about the inconsernation bell.So he was talking about this guy in
the radio to my conservation belt.All these bells and I went and called
on the radio. I'm warming upgetting ready for the tournament. I called
radio up and say, yo,are you talk about path up thirty?
What do you mean? So Iput two to together. We are conditioned
from the time he conceived to thetime when he deserved. Because if you

(01:11:27):
look at it and then it goesback into heaven, you have a son,
God bless him. Eighteen, Igotta do thirteen? Why takes so
low for your child? And youbring him home out the wound to train
them to deal with feeding because thechild is used to getting fed twenty four
to seven, seven days a weekfor that nine months in the room.
So when it comes out the womb, now what it is at four in

(01:11:50):
the morning, you're getting up likeyo, son of a dude? Back,
I just right? So you nowgot to condition to child. Right.
Classically should havelow theory on when toeat, when to get up and
when? Do you actually see itis when you go to pre k kidding

(01:12:10):
guarden school you have what's called thepositive belt. Right. Other ways,
the cos condition the human being isalso when you look at the bush.
What's the differ between the correction busand a cheese bus? That's a good
question. Nobody asked that. Don'treally know. Right, your cons condition
to ride a bus, right,one is that you will have no freedom,

(01:12:31):
the other one you have freedom,right, not saying nothing wrong about
that. Please understand this right?And there was a picture I found one
day that they had. What's thedifferent between the two the food that they
give you when the prison and thefood they give you in a school loans?
They always talk about that, right, look at the stuff. Why

(01:12:53):
you think they stopped giving starroom fromplates that look like prisoners plates? Oh
yeah, you're right. So theygive you a regular place so you won't
be conditioned and psychologically won't be taughtabout that. So doing this whole powerful
theory thing. Doctor Smith was sittingthere like what yeah, yeah, and
say there because why when you workright at a job, right, you're

(01:13:13):
sole conditioned at eleven o'clock twel o'clockto email? Right my boss? Those
at eleven oclock'na my mail lem oclock. Now, I asked my co workers,
do you want to go at luncheleven twelve and one o'clock whatever you
want? Because I'm down. Icould play my lunch right. We've planned
our day right. That's why whenwe retire from work, the reason why
our death is so fast because wesubmit so condition. Your body is going
to a thousand rate as one thousandmonths per hour. That's why your body

(01:13:35):
breaks down the way it is andlearning And when I ask why I saw
a powerful theory in that book,I was like, wait a minute,
and you see other psychological theories inthat book, and it means a lot
of sense. And then Katas hasto deal with the mind boding spirit because
at the end of that I thinkthe most important aspect of Martchhocks is dakata
because not only teaches you how todo a condition invite to deal with both

(01:13:56):
fighting multiple people, you're also dealinghow to calm the down and tech also
how to be a wrong wherever yousurrounded as well. But with the power
flaw theory. Like I said before, it's at the end day. We
are conditioned from the day we arehere today we leave the earth and remind
yourself at the end of the day, there's like what Denzel Washington said there
you never see a U hole behindthe hearse Oh speak that you now,

(01:14:20):
so you take you know, andthat's what it is as a martial artist.
You have to understand and as aperson that has education, we used
to look upon those that had education. We used to look upon those that
had the wisdom. The wisdom andand that's what's going on with with with
in this world that you know.We used to go to libraries. That

(01:14:40):
was our Google. That was ourGoogle. We used to read books.
That was our Google. Now noteven everything's jay Z said. Once everything's
in the palm of your hands.Now you got to seek information. Before
we sought. We went to getthe information. We sought the information.
We went to get the information.Now you can sit there and Google,

(01:15:00):
but is the Google search that you'relosing is really Google? And that's where
again where people say, well,they'll put these scraps up and certain things
up about the Marshmals, but thenthey will do is they'll copy and paste
or do this editing stuff out thereis But at the end of the day,
and I said this and to putmy story out there, because that's
why we did the Rune sixth one, And that's why I do these podcasts
because why is that I feel allthat there are those that are trying to

(01:15:24):
tell my story and then lie andmanipulate and then will say oh, yeah,
I did do that, or ifthey will sit here and say,
oh, I know where he livesat, I'll knock on his door,
but he's gonna go. I willnot quote the popo or nobody I did.
The most crazy thing was I wasan event and I see this individual

(01:15:44):
and I'm like, okay, I'mgonna tall you stay away from this individual
as much as I can, becauseI know what mean. This person has
heat. I know we have heat, and I'll go get my food.
An individual came to me. Nowindividual is engaging me in threatening behavior.
Jesus right and three and then andhe's trying to play at the end of
the day the Saint card and theHalo and everything's gonna be over him because

(01:16:09):
of the political cloud that he hasin the Marshal arts Wow and threatened me
several times, said let's go outside. Now I know what means by going
outside. But I came from theside. I was born and raised in
the Bronx. I already And thenfirst of all, I wear a uniform,
are so so why would I gooutside? And and I think I'm
not gonna jeopardize what I work for. I got a pension, I got

(01:16:30):
a health coach, I got everythingit is, So why would I jeopardize
me fighting over something that was givento me by somebody? Yeah, and
then and and then the who's inch? And then they like what Mike says
all the time, says they mightthere's no oversea on the lots of stuff.

(01:16:51):
There's an overseer of that stuff.So again when I say, when
it comes to um, you know, like with coach Jhey, people sat
coach Coachroy mine coach for ju jiujitsu. They get mad at him.
He's like, he has a properbelt. I said, but in jiu
jitsu you only had one belt atone point was white and blue and that
was it. And karate was white, brown and black, or you just

(01:17:13):
had a white belt, you hada black belt. All this other stuff
came about later on after certain grandmasters died. They did even wanted to
issue past the fifth Dead. Everybodywas given a fifth dand and once you
got your fifth D, you gota title that went with that. Fifth
end would have been Sulky, wouldhave been Hanshi, would have been Kyoshi,
would have been sitting show, whichlater became the Ranchee title. And
then Gigano who created judo, whichactually was jiu jitsu, but because they

(01:17:42):
wanted to change the name from jiujitsu to judo, because they wanted to
promote the judo name, because theyfelt jiu jitsu was more a warrior whatever
it was. So I didn't daywhen you look. When you look at
Brazilian jiu jitsu and jiu jitsu andjudo, they all they all come from
the same family. They all comeit's just different styles like Marshall Kari has
different styles like Tungsudo and taekwondo,and you got Shuttle Khan, and you

(01:18:04):
got Uchiu Yuryu, whatever it is, American Campbell and Goldjuru, you know,
all these different styles. Same thingwith judo, different styles with judo,
American karate, you know. Sothat's again, that's all. That's
where it came from. And thenthe idea of the belt came from the
Samurai flag. Some I'm saying thatit was the Samurai flag somewhere. It

(01:18:25):
was when he traveled to Europe andSoul was called. They were changing.
They they wanted to die, sowhatever die that was cheap at the time,
they would die. The belt thatthat died. That was cheap at
the time, and that's where thewhere baptism came from. It came from
the Greek which was called batisimo,and batismo means to change. That's where
baptism comes from. Baptism comes fromthe Greek off the docks religion, which

(01:18:47):
it needs to call it batisimo,but it calls back to going back to
the religion one on one again.But that's where that's where a lot of
the belt actually colored the belt comefrom. When when when they traveled to
Europe, when they traveled to SouthAmerica, when they traveled to Hawaii.
Because you gotta look at the spreadof karate I actually went from Japan,

(01:19:09):
Okinawa to Europe, to part toEurope. But then you look at the
history of it. The Greeks ofRomans had judo because if you look at
the Greek Romans, they had theOlympics, which you saw a lot of
the judo. So did they startfrom the Greeks of Romans, you can
say yes, and then it spreadon to Japan and other places. You
could say Africa started martial arts becausethey had the same day were around.

(01:19:29):
So we don't know where everything youknow people say everything started in Africa.
We could see in southern Africa,but wherever it came from, wherever spread
where they went from Africa to Europe, because all these countries were all together
at one point when you look atthe sick Road trade. But everybody has
their own history. We don't know, we weren't there. We wouldn't you
know, we don't have we havewe can't get into in the DeLorean.

(01:19:51):
We can't get into Dolorean. Goback into time. You know, I
don't know what the lord it is. Guy, guys look it up.
But anyway, you can't go bythe time. So you know, we
just have to understand that everybody hasa journey in life. Everybody has a
story in life. Everybody been throughsome type of trial and trip relation in
life. But to sit there anddisrespect that person, and then I think

(01:20:13):
when my Grandmaster Carl Matthews said onetime he said to this individual self in
the Book of Matthews it talks aboutgossiping and how not to gossip about others
in them and he said, oh, I'm not got the person. I'm
not gossiping I'm talking about I said, yes you are. Because at the
end of the day is if Iwere to pull your cotel. You've been
that individual. Whether somebody in yourfamily was done wrong in the tournament,

(01:20:39):
you complain about that person, butmeanwhile you complain about the person, but
then mean while you have to eventcheck it there. Don't get that.
But yeah, no, no,I just want to ask because we have
to leave soon. Ye. Sobesides, you have mentioned a lot today
on the show, and we wantto thank you for that. The educational
part, you know, from youbeing the bulling situation and going through that

(01:21:00):
and going through so much and youraccolades and everything. I do want to
add now, is there any tournamentsor anything you're doing for this year?
Well? This year what I'm doing, I said to myself that a lot
of the tournaments I'm doing that I'mslowing down because of age and because of
age and because the things I havecompleted a lot of what I wanted to
do. The martial arts UM whenchampionship belts with Wait, Wait with Germany,

(01:21:25):
and when Championship rings with with UM, when we had the pandemic they
had, we had the Zoom.We had the Zoom tournaments with with California.
So winning championship and just more focusedon teaching now. So you know,
tournaments, you know, I'm lookingat tap out for cancer. I
do that one um every year tome, so to tap out for cancer.

(01:21:45):
Even you know, I won myfirst supple medal last year with them
and jiu jitsu, you know II you know jiu jitsu. You know
I got involved in that to beuh in tournaments. Sorry, it meant
to be in tournaments, but toat my resume because in the martial arts,
you know, if you're not it'sfive ranges, you got a long
shot up middle and then near theground. You know four best sorry be

(01:22:08):
four, So you know, toso you maybe one more two more quality
tournaments there is maybe and then maybeonce you know, maybe next year one
or two, but nothing like it'snot gonna be like where I did in
the past, where I was doinglike thirteen fourteen tournaments. I was like
I was, I was going fromfrom New York to Rhode Island. I
think I've been I've been in UH. I think the best time I ever

(01:22:31):
had was when I got to gocompete um in jiu jitsu last year.
I think last year was a wildwooddo two years ago. I think than
that it was Wildwood. Whywood wasone of the best ones I had.
I got to meet a fertimized onFacebook um coach right Um. He was
out there with one of the studentsand he was like you by yourself?
I said, yeah. He endedup being my coach for the for the

(01:22:54):
tournament, and it was kind ofcool because I got to meet somebody that
I got to meet, somebody thatI became first of the Facebook. But
it's it's it's it's all about youknow. Tournaments is great. You know,
I've won everything. I've done whatI could do. And it's not
my fault that at my age thatthese martial our schools couldn't find competitors that
wanted to go against me in tournaments. If I did find a competitor against

(01:23:16):
me, I had fun with it. I had fun with it and enjoyed
it, you know. And it'sall about friendships in the bond you built.
But you know when it comes tothe tournaments right now, is that
I try to stay away from alot of it because there's the all the
Boncian chair and all the politics andthe politics and again with the bullying and
all that stuff, and I tryto avoid a lot of that's the type

(01:23:36):
person him. I try to avoidit. And plus my schedule, I
don't have Sundays off like I usedto have Sunday's off. I had weekends
for almost like eight or nine years, So them eight nine years when I
worked in my old site, Ihad weekends so I could go everyone I
wanted to go. Now I haveto like put it for Sunday off and
hopefully I get that day off andstuff like that. But you know,

(01:24:00):
you know, so far a Hallof Fame events, having fun. You
know, you know, I gotto meet, you know, some people
cool, got to be somebody thatwas really cool, and you know,
the last one I went to it, I was great as well. That's
amazing. But you know, mortializedguys, you know, those closing guys.
You know, if someone is doingsomething in their fearing you don't like
about it, instead of just sittingthere and try to bully the person,

(01:24:20):
because you could be charged for bullying. And people need to understand that as
well. It's a crime now,you know, And and people do and
commit suicide over bullying over the simplethings of social media. So be on
the lookout when you do things outof the norm like I said, and

(01:24:41):
you know, if you if ifyou don't like it, then unfollowed the
person. You don't have to sitthere and just expect the person. No
you don't, you know, toclose out quickly. Um, any shout
outs and lastly your social media,so any shots. I'd like to really
thank you guys because you know,because um, you guys a me come
out here and talk about the dispiritualstuff and and and and and you know

(01:25:05):
again Grandma asked Anthony and Anthony's worldWide Marshals, my whole Anthony Marshals family,
Washington Heights, jiu jitsu. Igotta say something, man, them
guys have really really took me in. And it's a small class sized guys.
I understand my coach and had ablack belt, but he has the
knowledge um from Victor sha Lynn whichis his coach. Um. They have

(01:25:30):
really helped me out and been therefor me. And you know, my
my family and friends. You knowMike, Grandma, um, you know
the Soakie Mike and them. Andagain doctor Smith has been always been that
one person I always talking about spiritualfather because I don't know, I never
had a father figure. I neverhad a father and having him be that

(01:25:55):
father for me, and then youknow my uncle's being my father. Well,
losing my uncle a year ago hasbeen harder too, So you know,
Smith has been that farther figure andfor a lot of us in Monroe,
we've been blessed privilege. If youhave that one mentor in your life
for somebody your life, enjoy it. You know, I lost my uncle

(01:26:15):
suddenly. We're losing people suddenly.And if you have that one mentor,
appreciate that person. Doctor Smith isone of those that at seven years old
and the values I learned from himover a thirty year friendship, and I
go through everything for him and shoutout to him and my mom and everybody

(01:26:38):
my family, and then I cansay, you know you guys again,
because you you you allow a lotof those in this world to come in
to experience themselves, you know,as as a musicians, as artists,
because Marshals is an art so weare artists as well. And just be
grateful for what you have in hislife, you know, because you never

(01:27:00):
know what tomorrow may bring, youknow, and you know, just be
grateful, you know, and that'syou know, awesome, And we'll wait
to close the show and social media. Oh, social media can find me
um Facebook on on c J riverauh on the a little TikTok. You
can find me at C train sixone. I need mysel about Goteck six

(01:27:25):
C train six one again. Um. And the same thing with with with
everything else. Um Instagram, Umagain if you guys, I ever want
to vogs h YouTube page, theRoni sixth one is out there right now,
still out there. Um. Youknow that was one of the things
that we did that was great.And that's about it. I'm just grateful
to come out here, guys,spread straight and hope you know. I

(01:27:48):
try to keep PG thirteen. It'sdeeper than it is. It it's more
deeper than it is, guys,And I just want to let people know
that, you know, just justbe grateful for what you have and God
bless everyone. And well, likehow I close out always with my good
friend seeful Rick. We have conversationwith over Facebook a lot. We even

(01:28:09):
the word with gung ho and that'swhat we say in my school. Gah
means we're here to work together andbuild each other up, not to destroy
each other up, destroy everybody,build each other up up, definitely listen
man, this man is a legendin the martial arts game. People respect
this man. He has put alot of years, as you heard it
right here on the show, dedicationtime investment. And this is what a

(01:28:31):
prime example someone you know you shouldbe as a role model or someone to
look up to, especially in thisfield or anything of that nature. So
we want to say thank you forcoming on the show. You know,
thank you guys again. Man,this is you want to go

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