September 17, 2025 • 51 mins
Veronica LIVE Unplugged with Wingman John Salak. We updated latest news on Charlie Kirk Assassination and we talk politics too. Strap in for another ride with America's Conservative Warrior!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Veronica Live.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And I'm here with my wingman, John Salik, because you know,
a one hour TV show, John is not enough.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You and I have.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Lots to say, and you're wearing a Veronica Live shirt
that nobody can see today. He's always my wingman. He's
always my wingman. I'll just my hand. Oh yeah, there
you go, wingman. Well, John, there's just too much to
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talk about. And literally, you know, I did a show
yesterday with Darren gob we only talked about Charlie Kirk.
And because literally I'm not kidding, every everybody that talks
to me messaged me, texts me.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's been almost a week. Tomorrow it will be.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
A week since he passed. Everybody's still so distraught by
this entire thing. And then, I don't know if you
caught yesterday the JD. Vance hosting the Charlie Kirk Show,
a lot of snip's came out of there that we're
going to go after Steven Miller says, we're going to
go after these fringe groups and handle it. And then,
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you know, this should have never happened, and then JD.
Vance said, in strong words, We're not going to unify
with anybody if you're the bad guy, there's no unity
and I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Right, no common ground, you know, veronic. The thing that
surprised me is just the the outpouring and I'm talking
the range of outpouring. It's it's like everybody somehow spiritually
felt this, this this disaster, this this death, you know,
i mean, the it's just incredible, you know, from NASCAR races,
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you know, taking taking a moment at NASCAR races, the
football games, you know, taking a moment putting his picture
up on the jumbo tron, you know, and taking a
moment of silence to remember. I mean, it the the
outpouring for somebody that thirty one years old, and it's like,
you know, you think people never Charlie Kirk in a
turning point, what is this? And the depth that this
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has affected people is just astonishing to me, you know.
I mean it's on the order of, you know, if
Trump had been you know, assassinated or whatever. You know,
it's on that level almost of a national mourning, you know,
and I'm I'm really quite taken by that. You know,
I'm hopeful for it too, because it's the reach that
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he had is astonishing, you know, and that's really.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Happy about it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm happy about it because we've got to change, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And it goes back to Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You know, I was Trump's chair twenty fifteen sixteen for
a year, and I know plenty of people that Ding
Dong ditched me because I was supporting Trump. And here
we are, what ten years later, and we're still dealing
with this because the vitriol is still there. I mean,
families have been fractured, you know. So it's just been,
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it's been. It hasn't ended. And now we're like at
the at the you know, top of the mountain here
and now somebody has been killed. And the other thing
that's been disgusting John is all of these people, doctors, nurses, teachers, professors,
so many people that have come out and said, oh,
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they were happy he was killed. They were happy he
was killed. I'm trying to find here. I've got to
find there's a pundit that's on the left and he
came out and he's just so happy about it. Famous
podcaster Stephen Bonnell, he's on CNN known as Destiny, calls
for conservatives to be killed more often so that they
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will be afraid to attend events or speak out. He said,
you need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
They go to events.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What is this?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I'm gonna say, shit, what is this?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Shit? It's shick, veronic, It is just it's absolute sick
and it's and it's just depraved indifference, I think is
what the legal legal term is if I remember correctly,
and that's what it is. I mean, these people are
morally bankrupt. They have no value system and that's the problem.
They don't have any value for human life. And and
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you know, and as as you know, Charlie Kirk espoused
many times there, you know, on these college campuses talking
to these to these young people, particularly about abortion. You know,
human life has value, you know, whether it's whether it's
you know, in the womb or been born, it has value.
And these people, you know, they think abortion is fine,
It's okay to kill that piece of tissue. They they
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think that because to them that human life has no value.
And and you know, I saw I saw one of
the clips. You know, I've seen a lot of clips
lately of Charlie, clips of Charlie's you know, arguments with
number of these people they had one. You know, the
lady at one of these events got up there and
and said that, you know, she she was a she
was a product you know, of of a of a rape,
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and and her mother decided not not to have an abortion.
And she went through a lot of abuse and stuff
when she was young, you know, the first first eight
or ten years of her life. And and and then
finally got out of that, you know, and got got
adopted and had a much better life out of that.
And and she's she's standing there saying, my life has value,
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you know. I I'm glad they didn't want to abort me,
you know, even though I had to go through a
lot of miserable you know, life life events that you know,
But my life has value, you know. And and and
that was that was the kind of thing that you
need to hear. That. And these people have a complete disregard,
I think, for human life. And if you're cheap in
human life, you don't mind aborting it. You don't mind
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murdering people, you know, you don't mind killing people. That's
all great, you know, in the name of whatever it
is they believe in, because they sure don't believe in God.
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
No, they don't believe in God.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
One of the one of the stories that made me
happy was a New Jersey nurse was suspended without pay
for calling out a doctor who cheered Charlie Kirk's death
and was happy about it. And she has since been
reinstated and the doctor has been let go.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean, this is.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
This is brave on her. This is crap, you know.
And and now, I mean, I just had surgery Friday.
I'm like, I don't want to tell any doctor in
my political.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Viewsand you know, and that's that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I mean, you had that thought because people always ask
me what do you do? And then I'm like, oh, well,
I host a talk show. You know, I don't know
if I want if I'm going to be, you know,
as willing to state that in the future when you're
dealing with a doctor or a nurse.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's that's the bad part about this is America. That's
that's not the way it's supposed to be. You shouldn't
be afraid to, you know, state what your beliefs are,
you know, and as Christians, you know, we shouldn't be
cowering in stating what our beliefs are. I mean, you know,
we're supposed to be out there evangelizing and carrying the
word of God forward, you know, to everybody. And and
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that's what Charlie Kirk was doing, you know, that's all
he was doing. He was talking, he was talking, and.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Winds weapons, you know. And then so yesterday as well,
Cash Bettel came out and I guess this killer said,
you know, and in one of these forums that he
had an opportunity to take out Charlie.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Kirk and he was going to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And so, you know, and he was living with this
for baby person was becoming a man into a woman.
And and and we're you know, we've got those the
queer group too that's been involved. They're called uh what
are they called, John, It's it's Queers for Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Something like that. Armed Queers, Armed Queers for Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And so so they've been idea in all of this mess.
And uh so I think it's going to come out
that there was a bunch of them you know that
kind of egged him on, and they all need to
be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, well this is all this is all the dark
side of the Internet, you know. And I think it's
it's deconstructioning, deconstructing our social order in these in these places,
you know, because they just they just feed on each other,
you know, they just build each other up and feed
on each other. You know, let's kill whoever, you know,
and and you know, again it's all morally repugnant stuff.
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You know that you'd want to go out and kill anybody.
But uh, you know, and back back to you know,
the things you hear about this kid. You know, Oh,
he was like really smart. You know, he had a
full full ride scholarship, you know, to college, you know,
on and on and on and then and then he
gets on the internet and he just descends into this hell,
uh you know, and and is converted and swayed to
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the point that he thinks it's okay to kill somebody.
You know. I just I just don't understand. I can't
matt fathom the mental pro that it takes to get there,
you know, because I have a belief system that's anchored
in you know, in God, and you know, so you know,
you can't go there if you believe this, you know.
So I don't know what happened, what twisted his mind.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You know, there's things that you know, have changed the world.
And I think this assassination has changed the world, John
because a lot of times on Facebook, people don't you know,
they're just posting their you know, had a birthday party,
had an anniversary. I flew to Croatia, and this, this
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assassination has woken people up, you know, and so and
I felt that way when Trump was assass almost assassinated
at Butler. I felt that that night I had an
event I had to go to and it happened literally
right before I went to the event, and the mood
was different that night. It finally woke up people that
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weren't paying attention that this was real.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And you know, and.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It all stems back to Obama and Biden, and they
keep saying that we're the problem. We don't go around
trying to kill people and and ruin them.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Right, we don't. We don't call people Nazis, you know,
we don't say, you know, you know that you're a fascist.
You know, that's not that's that's Democrat leftist words. Okay,
that's not that's not Republican words. I can't remember the
last time I heard a Republican call a democrat. You know, uh,
you know, a Nazi or a communist. Well I call it.
Excuse I called yeah, because he is.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
He's the real deal, Okay, the real one, right, that's
but I'm not I'm not urging to kill.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Kill him, right.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No, we don't act like that.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I mean, I hope people don't vote for him, but
that's different.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm continually posting, Please New York wake up. You cannot
vote for this individual, you know. And that's what it
comes down to. I don't wish him death, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And if right, and if that's what New Yorkers choose,
then that's what New Yorkers choose. That's the kind of
life they want. And I'm fine with that. That's why
they get to vote, you know. And I don't get
to vote in New York because I don't have a
say in how they want to live, you know. But
if New York wants to live like that, then let
them live like that. But if Kami Mandami comes down
here to to you know, down to Bay County here,
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you know, Panama City, and wants to run for something,
I'm definitely voting against him.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well let's hope they wake up, you know, and so
another person that was pushing the rhetoric. It's been so
many of these people, but that like for example, that
podcast or Destiny, I don't ever want to see his
face on a CNN camera, hear his podcast anywhere. I mean,
these people, we need to hammer the nails in their
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coffee in that no more from them pushing this ludicrous speech.
I mean, I mean what that man said to kill conservatives,
So we don't show up because you know what Ben
Shapiro said, He's not going to do another outdoor event again,
you know, And I will say after the butler, I
was concerned for Trump and then when and we don't
even have all the details on that John. I mean,
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that was another radical kid loser that we know nothing about.
And we still know nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
We still know nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And Trump's you know, still always out there, literally always
out there. Well Val Demings who ran she here in Florida,
ran against Senator Marco Rubio and she's a black woman
Democrat and she posted four days ago. Trump now says
rhetoric causes violence. He's right, but he's suspect number one.
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This is a man who divides America into supporters and enemies,
and there can be no disagreement. This this rhetoric hurts
American America. If a disagreement means death, you're not free.
So so who caused the death?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
John, I say, I don't. I don't. When was the
last time you heard Trump call for somebody to be killed,
you know, because he didn't agree with their with.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Their beliefs dumb, right and ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And and I have no problem with that, you know,
because these people are dumb and ridiculous and they need
to be called out, you know. And and so I
have no I have no no problem with with with
with Trump's words because they're not you know. And and
the left, of course always says, oh, they're hateful, they're
divisive and all this kind of stuff. And it's like,
what's divisive about make America great again? What what's divisive
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about that? You know? American exceptional? What made this country right?
You know, we had We've had whole generations in World
War One and World War two, Korean War. I mean,
all these people sacrificed a lot, you know for MAGA
right to make America great again. That's why they did it,
because they believed in this country and our place in
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the world. And these these leftist democrats, you know, these
are the colonialists. You know, Obama's probably number one. You know,
he thinks he thinks America is illegitimate because you know,
we're a colonialist society and we stole everything.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, yeah, truck is still pushing slavery, okay, and this
woman has never been a slave in her life. And
you know, it reaches the point now where there for me, John,
there is a there's a line in the sand. I
have the last year, I've just had enough of this,
and I've been pushing back. I've been pushing back, right,
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you know, because I know a couple of people that
I know on social media. They were like, oh, big deal,
why is everybody all you know? Oh, Charlie was killed?
Who cares? And I wrote an op ed last week,
you know, talking about all of this, and I sent
it to both of these people, and I drew a
line in the sand, because you don't rejoice when a
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father of two and a young husband is killed.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Over words.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
He was not in combat on a frontline in Afghanistan.
So so I'm I'm done. I'm done with with people
acting like this. I'm done when it comes to abortion,
which I've been done a long time ago. I mean,
I still I'm not going to forgive the d n
C for bringing up of abortion. You know, vehicle that
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you get ice cream out of to give twenty five
abortions out.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The d n C.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
These people have issues and their moral compass is.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Gone, right, It's just it's just spitting in every direction,
you know, right, And and that's and that's the problem.
You know, they're the same people. Ron I can say
that say that the United States is not a country
that was that was founded in the image of God,
you know. And it's like, wait a minute, you better
go back and and read the Declaration of Independence, you know,
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read that last paragraph there. You know, who are they petitioning?
The petitioning God in the in the Declaration of Independence,
you know, to put his blessings on this country. You
know that. Don't tell me that the founding fathers were
godless men. You know that they didn't that they didn't
believe in God. That's crap. That's that's that's one hundred
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percent crap. And that was the one thing that Charlie
Kirk was superb that doing, was taking that and just
defeating these people with facts and and the logic of
how this stuff was put together, how this country was
put together. And to sit there and say this is
an atheist based country, you know, it's like, yeah, we
have a constitution, we protect freedom of religion. That means
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that the government doesn't have an official religion like they
do in the in in England, you know, they have
you know, the Church of England. You know, the king
is the head of the Church of England. Okay, that
that doesn't work in America. You know, we don't have
a king and we don't have an official state religion.
Everybody is free to believe what they want to believe
or not believe anything at all. And and to me,
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that's fine it you know it by you you know,
on judgment day, you sit there and you account for yourself,
you know, and you don't account to me, you account
to God. And that's that's my belief. You're never going
to change it.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But and this country allows it was so lovely. But
you know, I really want to root out all of
this madness because like Clemson too, you know, they had
all these radical professors they've since been fired. And I
put I put out there, I'm like Clemson alumni you know,
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do something because how many how many parents have you met,
I've met, They've sent their children off to school and
the children come back liberal.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
You know that climate change is something.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know, my daughter took an extreme weather class at
the University of Florida and it was all about climate change.
And you know, you and I've hosted one of our
weathermen here that is just literally the best meteorologist known
to man. And I remember I brought that up to
him and he laughed, you know, because people make stuff
up and then they start pushing their key talking points
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and I'm literally done with it. We've got to have
We've got to clean up this world. I mean, and
I say this all the time with you. I've said
it for years now. Faith and family's part of it too,
because people are missing that as well. But we you know,
we don't need these radical professors like the one Clemson one.
She had queer. She taught queer something like fifty times.
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It was in her bio and I was reading this
bio and I was puking. I mean, I mean, that's
when we go off to college to study about your
queerness and push your agenda. No, we're trying to grow
world citizens to lead, and these colleges have not been leading.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well. The problem, Ronica is the colleges aren't about education.
They're about indoctrination nowadays, and they have so many they have.
Of course, it always goes back to money too. That's
another another you know, money the root of all evil, right,
and the colleges have just bought into this. And you
got to remember, the people that are running running the
institutions these days are the are the the nineteen sixties radicals,
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you know that that generation fortunately is you know, my
generation is retiring and leaving. But they've but they've been
in they've been there, excuse me, they've been in there
for the last twenty years, uh, you know, twenty five
thirty years. And they've been infecting these institutions with with
this with this bizarre, you know, view of the world.
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And again it's it's just morally bankrupt. And you can't
have a country, you can't have a society that that
has no moral basis. Everything you know, right and wrong
is is based on moral relativism, right, you know. And
and you and I look at the world, you know,
we look at that because of our religious faith. We
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look at things we understand objective truth, and these people
with no moral with no moral foundation, everything true the
subjective to them, it's all, it's all relative to whatever
the context of whatever it is you're talking about. And
that's a that's a bizarre it's a bizarre, you know
ideology we've got going on.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Because this weekend I went to a publix and then
I went to a department store. There was a girl
dressed up like one of these furries and and I'm like,
what the hell's wrong with you? And then in the
publics this girl had her hair shaved with like leopard
kind of it was fully shaved, but she had like
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her head looked like a leopard and was wearing a
mask John and I wanted to rip that mask off
because I'm past masks. But I'm like, who are their parents.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
That are allowing the shiza to happen?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So we've got to get control of our society and
get our moral compass back. And it's it's time. It's time,
you know. I went to an event last night. It
was a Military Affairs committee event here, and so a
bunch of generals were there and colonels, all kinds of
leadership and you know, I was talking with with I
talk with everybody like I do, and I could tell
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that there was a new They were all their hearts were,
you know, back lit up and being in the military's
cool again.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Were the Department of War.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
They know that they have a commander in chief that
is fighting for them. They were, you know, hag Seth
happy to support. I could tell John things were different,
and that just warmed my heart just talking with all
of these people because I worked for generals for twenty years,
and I will say the last few years, everybody was
afraid to say boo because you know who who what group?
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The Bidens? The Obamas were constantly attacking our side. I
don't know if you've seen Eric Trump has got a
new book out. Would love to book him on one
of my shows, and he's been rehashing everything that their
family went through. And when you start to hear him
just spew it all out, You're like, oh my god,
you forget right. So we've been in a I really
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do think a spiritual warfare with all of this mess
because the bad guys wanted to win and then they
pretend they're Catholic.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
You know, I'm like, no, you're not you're not so.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, it's just you know, I'm glad. I'm glad to
see the military is coming back. We have, you know,
the military is not having problems meeting their recruiting goals.
Now all of a sudden fire Biden's not president and
Trump's president, and now now we can actually recruit enough
volunteers that actually want to be in the military because
they actually think the military might be something useful and
not and not this social experiment that the Democrats and then.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Wearing skirts in the military.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I'm like, give you a break, I mean, no, no,
so uh well, I know you wanted to talk about.
Somebody else is throwing their hat in the ring for
you know, Florida to be our governor. And just so
people know, Florida's the fifteenth largest economy in the world,
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and you can't win the White House unless you go
through Florida. We've had Governor DeSantis is going to be
wrapping up his second term. He's been on fire, and
before him was Governor Scott who's now our Florida Senator.
So we always need to ensure that Florida. We've gone
from nineteen million to about twenty three million since COVID
because everybody's moving down here. We don't have state income tax,
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so we have more money in our bank account.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
John, So this is a state that leads the way.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And like DeSantis says, man, he's had his sleigh the
woke sort out for a couple of years now.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So we're very proud of him.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But so, who's the latest, because we know Byron Donald's
is thrown his hat in the ring and he's our
congressman here in Florida. You see him nationally all over.
He's a good guy and Trump has actually endorsed him.
We had our speaker runner through his hat in the
ring and Governor DeSantis poo poo that.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But now we have a Democrat, So tell me about.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The dem So, speaking speaking of val Demings, her her
husband is the mayor of Orlando and and he has
decided apparently to jump in on the Democrat side, uh
to run for governor and uh so be interesting to
see if if we end up with a black Republican
and a black Democrat buying for the Democrat the governorship
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of Florida. Although he has to go through a primary
and and his that's going to be a pretty pretty
tough primary. There's there's already one former Republican turned Democrat
that's running. I guess he couldn't win as a Republican,
so he switched over to the Democrat party to try
and win win the nomination. And and usually turncoats like
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that don't don't get well received, as as Charlie.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Christ with Christ congressman governor wanted to be a senator,
I mean the mamazone and.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
It's like, you know, oh, I'll be a Republican today,
I'll be a Democrat tomorrow, and then I'll be an
independent and you know, just a chameleon is what he is,
just anything to run run for office. And so so
we'll see how the Democrat primary works out. I think
what it's going to end up with is the Republicans
are gonna end up with a huge dollar advantage because
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if the if the Democrats have a hotly contested primary,
they're gonna end up spending a lot of money trying
to win win the Democrat nomination. Plus you have to
appeal to the leftist crazies on the Democrat side.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
We've seen just so people know, Florida, we've got over
a million Republican voters are Republican part of Florida is
really run with the football to try to make Florida
a red state. When Governor DeSantis his last race, it
was he ran against Nikki Freed, who was an agricultural commissioner,
and I was shocked that she wanted as a dem
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And then she ended up being Florida's running the Democrat party.
And she was literally a disaster because her her living
boyfriend is like a pot a pot uh, he owns
a bunch of pot companies, and that was her thing,
let's push the pot agenda. And the woman's just been
a disaster ever since. Even though she pretends like everybody
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cares about her, we really don't. So so can can
a black mayor say that a Republican candidate is racist?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Are we going to have racist issues?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Of course? Right? That's you know, look at what they
look at what they do to you know, Justice Thomas,
you know the stuff they call him, you know, doctor
Ben Carson. You know, we've had we've had a lot
of prominent black black Republicans, right and and they just
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they just call them all kinds of nasty names there.
You know, even though these people are they're they're they're smart.
There's intellectually smart people. They're accomplished people, you know, and
and and the fact that they're black to me is irrelevant.
They're smart, accomplished people. And I like smart accomplished people.
You know, I don't. I don't care what your race.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Is, no either, But just just to remind people, because
when Desantas first ran for governor, it was a close race,
and he was running against a black candidate, Mayor Andrew
Gillam of Tallahassee, and he didn't win by that much.
And then you all come to find out and and
Andrew Gillam was like Ivy League educated.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
He ended up being a CNN spokesperson. He was wonderful.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
But then fast forward, he was married, three children, he
ends up down in South Florida, drugged out, passed out
with a gay porn star. So these are the people.
They don't have the values. And I remember the night
he won the primary, because we had Gwen Graham, who'd
been our congressman here, whose.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Daddy had been a governor.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I thought was gonna be who was gonna win the
dead side, and she didn't, which was shocking. And then
I was like, who the hell's Andrew Gillam. Oh, well,
we quickly learned who Andrew Gillam was and to think,
you know which, I we're not going to be close
like that again, because our our pof has done such
a great job. But it was a little scary to
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wake up and you don't know who this guy is.
And then when you eventually find out what this guy
is that could have been in you know, the governor's mansion.
It was a little scary, John, It was a little scary.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's right, you know that one is was really close
and I'm I'm glad to see you know, I think
it was it was the education thing, the education moms
that they kind of threw the Santas over the top
on that one, because you know, Gillam was was was
a creature of the teachers Union and and didn't believe
in in a lot of the standardized stuff that you
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know that that Des Santas wanted to bring education wise,
So you know, the Democrat bench is so thin in
this to Florida, it's not even funny. And they've been losing.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Don't even bother mayor Devings, we don't need you.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
So you know they're there. They have longholds. You know,
and in different places. You know, I think I think
in Tampa, Saint Pete's still Miami. Yeah, but there Miami
days kind of shifting it hurting. Yeah, they they they
We've actually had Republicans win down there, you know, which well.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
People like when their bank accounts are bigger, and and
that comes with you know, Governor DeSantis keeps talking about
that we're not going to have to pay property tax
like other states have to do. And if that happens,
I mean, that should solidify a Republican for years to come,
because I don't want to give my money away.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I honestly don't.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well, you know, we we've got issues I think that
are going to be that are going to be a
good compare and contrast you know for any any governor's
candidates running. You know, we've got like, you know, the
vaccine mandate good good good example there, uh you know
where where or the state surgeon General Joseph Ladappo, you know,
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is urging the state, you know, and with Governor DeSantis
is backing is to eliminate mandatory vaccines for school children
and to start making you know, start start letting the
parents make the decision instead of the government making decisions
on vaccinating your kids. I was shocked at the number,
you know, during some congressional testimony, uh, listening to Secretary Kennedy. Uh,
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one of one of the senators that's a doctor, you know,
said that by the time you're eighteen, you know, today's children,
by the time they're eighteen, have had like seventy vaccinations.
Seventy vaccinations, and it starts as soon as you're born.
They're giving you a hepatitis B vaccination, you know, to
babies that have just been born. Right. So so it's
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like there's something wrong, you know, And where's all this
this autism coming from. Where's all this the.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Florida Florida's pushing back.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's this Big Farmer wants you to get all of
these shots and and everything, and especially the COVID shot.
You know, I've been I've had a bunch of people
I've interviewed over the last couple of years because I
don't children don't get COVID, and they've been pushing this
damn shot from six months to you know, however old.
And now at least that's going away, but Big Farmer
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didn't want it to go away because they're all living
in their mansions driving lard Lambo's John as babies are getting.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Hurt and killed.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
So so yeah, I'm I'm over it. And you know
that's that's the one thing. RFK Junior, you know, they're
the Kennedy Center had an event this weekend on Sunday
for Charlie Kirk and he spoke and you know, he
was a beloved Democrat until he came to the dark
side with President Trump. But he has been literally lovely
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as he cleaned up the CDC and these people that
don't care about your safety or my safety, they only
care about their bank accounts.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
John, And so you know.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
He's another He's a Democrat that'll be in sainthood because
of the blowback he's gotten for supporting Trump doing the
right thing. I mean, who doesn't want make America healthy again?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
You know what I mean? What's wrong with saying, you know,
eat eat unprocessed whole foods. You know, I.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Meanright, blue diet Gatorade. I love to drink when I'm
sick because I'm always like, why is this so it's
such a pretty color. So hopefully I don't kick the
can because I've had a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Sean Well you know, Ronnick, it's interesting if people get
get outraged. I don't know if you remember a couple
couple years ago, maybe four or five years ago, there
was there was this outrage over this over this processed
meat product, you know, that apparently was some kind of
some kind of they take all the leftover, you know,
from the cow's a slaughter and we're turning it into
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a meat product, and and it was some kind of
ooze or goo or whatever. And people were outraged over
over this stuff being sold, you know, and fed to
our kids and that kind of stuff. And it's like, yeah,
that's what you call ultra processed food, you know, because
it's got all kinds of goop in it that had
no idea what's in it, just all the leftovers, and
you have no idea what the effects are on people
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long term. So you know, we've done the same thing
with these vaccines, with all these dyes that we add
to the food, the preservatives, you know, look at it.
Look at the list on an item of food. Okay,
pick up the package and read the ingredients, you know.
And the last thing on.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Irish in Greece last fall for three weeks and everything
was fresh and I felt great.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And it was funny.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
All the people I was with, it was about thirty
people said the same thing. So, but you know, you
end up being the bad guy because once again it
comes down to Trump derangement syndrome. And so so let
let mister mayor Deming's run. We'll take your money, but
you're not gonna win. You're not gonna win. And that's
the other thing is anytime Trump says this is who I.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Want, they normally win. John.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So the other story and Florida Attorney General Declaire's open
carry of guns law of the state and that just
came out like seventeen hours ago. And I know you
wanted to talk about that because you know, for I've
had a concealed carry for years. This has been people
been talking about this forever and I always do stay,
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if you're going to have a gun, you need to
receive training and know how to secure it if it's
not on you. But so, what are your thoughts on
this open carry? I mean, Florida is definitely pushing it. Uh,
some of the legislators, you know, some of the people
out there don't want this. But then there's been sheriff saying, ah,
I open carry I'm fine with, especially like sheriffa I
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be down in Brevard County.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
He always leads the way.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, well, Ronica, you know, I've been pushing for open
carry for back in the day when I was chairman
of the baycount Republican Party and actually playing politics, you know,
in Tallahassee and stuff and pushing for it, you know,
and and for many years Senator Kathleen Pasadimo, who was
formerly her last thing, was president of the Florida Senate.
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But she she was the one solely she blocked open
kerry in Florida because she just didn't want it. I
don't know what her motivations were. I've talked to I
talked to a lot of senators and stuff, and they're like,
nobody was going to go against her on this.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
They won't go against her.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
And I know this because last year, you know, I
was the Republican Liberty Caucus director for the Panhandle and
met heard her speak and nobody would go against.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Her at all.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
John, I mean, I literally was surprised because as Republicans,
the Second Amendment means something to us, and you just
you don't take it away, right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
And that's what I had the issue with was like
the second man, the Second Amendment. You know, if I
can concealed carry, why and I accidentally, you know, my
shirt comes up or whatever and it exposes a gun.
You know, Now now I've committed a crime. And it's like,
you know that that's ridiculous, But that's what the law.
That's what the law is in Florida. And you know,
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we had the first the first district Court of Appeals
overturned the conviction. I believe it was in an Escambia
man that was arrested for open carrying a weapon and said,
you've got to The court said you have a constitutional
right to open carry in this state. And Governor Desantists
thankfully has said we're not going to appeal it. We're
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just going to let it stand. You know, the Attorney
General said the same thing, We're not appealing this. That
is going to become So now we've got an issue
with the state law being out of whack with with
the with a court finding that the law is unconstitutional.
So I think the House and the Senate in the
next session are going to be forced to address this.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
So, you know, are they us that we're Republicans?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Right, So they've got, they've got a court.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
They want open carry.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I have to tell you, and that you're pushing for it, it
needs to land in his direction.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Right. So so the only the only place that the
decision really makes official, you know, uh, matter is in
is in the first district, which is uh, you know,
the northern I think thirty counties. When it covers up
here in northwestern Florida. The rest of the state of Florida,
they can still enforce open carry if they want. And
that's where the Sheriff's Association has said, you know, their
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recommendation to all the sheriffs across the state of Florida
is not to enforce open carry anymore. Now you still
have the city police, you know, they can do it.
They can enforce it if they want to enforce the law,
except in the thirty counties where the court's founded illegal. Uh.
But you know, everybody's kind of a you know.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You know, and I'm due to to renew my concealed
carry and you know, especially in the climate that we
live in these days, I want to be carrying.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
You know, I always always be passed.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
You do know you don't need to get your concealed
carry anymore. Right, You've had your constitutional carry in Florida,
so so you don't even need the license anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Now I got mine renews money, and I don't have
to have an ugly picture.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Well I got I got mine renewed, mainly because I
travel to different states and I carry. I carry with me, okay,
and I think almost all states have reciprocal agreements with Florida.
But you better have some proof that you've got a
concealed carry permit if you get stopped in one of
these other states. And that's the only reason, that's the
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only reason I.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Got to do that, because if I'm driving over to Alabama,
you know, I want them to know that that I'm legit.
But you know, I don't know why this is our
Republicans are dragging that Pasadoma. She definitely was a problem,
and I don't like that, you know, and and and actually,
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you know, I sat in some meetings with some high
level legislators when I went to Tallahassee a couple of
times last year, and I was kind of scandalized that
Republicans weren't totally pro Second Amendment.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I was just like, what, because well, well, I have
I have a feeling Veronica. It's going to get changed
in the legislature in the next session. I remember, we've
got a governor's race going on, and I think you're
going to find, of course, DeSantis is going to be
pushing for it, you know, because he he's behind it.
He wants it, he wanted it done already, and so
so I think you're going to see the governor behind
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it on his legislative agenda. I think you're going to
see Byron Daniels as a candidate behind it because it's
a very popular issue, okay, and I can't imagine him.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Again canhandle And this is this is hunting country, so everybody,
I mean, you constantly see people in their hunting garb
and so so in the Panhandle, they're going to support
open carry at every moment.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Right And you know, the definition of gun control up
here is we don't miss.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Well that's goodye, So anyway, do why we go to
the range. I'm a chick that like, just so you know,
and I don't even need I do have one weapon
that has the laser. I don't even need the laser,
so so you gotta be good, okay. Well, and the
other story, I know that we wanted to talk about
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here was we've.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Got Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
North here in the Panhandle, John, So I knew this
was coming, and once again I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
So talk about that.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, Well, bake Baker County as a place called Baker
Correctional Institute, which was which was closed and has been
recently reopened and it's now been renamed Deportation Depot. So
it's a it's all right. So you know, Florida's becoming
a popular destination and for immigrants about to be deported,
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which is what they should be well, and ones that
are here illegally.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Like everybody that's being deported has a criminal record. I mean,
that's who they've started with. And the left is always
up in arms because even at Alligator Alcatraz down south,
there's been a judge that stepped in it too, trying
to stop this stuff and once it closed. And I
am and we've talked about this for a while, these
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activist judges.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I am done with John, I'm done with them.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Well, I was glad to see the Alligator Alley they
you know, they had a bunch of people tried to
sue them in federal court over alligator alley, and the
judge basically threw them out as having no standing because
it wasn't a federal facility. It's a state facility. And
the judge basic said, federal government has no has no
say over the operation of this place. It's a state
facility where they're housing people that are that are about
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to be deported and have deportation orders. So it's not
it's the only the only federal part of that is
a deportation order. But the fact that they're in state
custody and it's a state facility, then then the federal
government really has no say over how it's run, you know,
from a daily operation kind of thing. So so they
kind of left it there. And then another judge, you know,
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they were trying to sue them over the fact that
you know, they're built, it's in the everglade, you know,
and they've they've got all this environmental damage they were
doing and all that, and it's like, well, yeah, well,
I love I love that fence there. We don't have
a fence here because there's alligators out there. If you
want to go out and play with them, which you're
welcome to if.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
You're if you come to visit Florida. The rule is
if there's water, you always expect an alligator to be there.
So you don't joke about that, because it's true. So
so feel.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Free if you want to jump into that little.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Advice somewhere, because you may not be making it out sadly.
I mean this is I'm not joking. This is serious
stuff here in Florida. There's water.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Remember a few years ago, I was out on Deer
Point Lake up there, you know, and it was it
was nighttime and we're driving around in a pontoon boat there,
and and you could see these these these yellow glowing
orbs that you can.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Know, scary John. I live on the water. I've tried
to clean the little the little grass, and I bought
even a little hand thing that I can pick up
the trash. But after I I did that, you know,
I did it. This is the beginning of the year.
My one neighbor said she saw an alligator down by
her house. So I'm not I'm not picking up trash anymore.
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So please don't pollute because it ends up in my
little sock grass there because I was scared the whole time. So,
I mean, this is serious stuff here. So I'm all
for putting these you know, deportation places where there's alligators,
because if you ever have.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Done one of those swamp tour, I mean you're right.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
And then they'll did they throw on a chicken and
you see like fifty come out, you know, down in Miami.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
The next time you get out, they go out to
clean Veronica take put a chicken on a fishing pole
and hold it out.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I retired. I was prepping for a Super Bowl party
that I have every year because people always have to
go out and look at the water. Well you're just
gonna have to look at that plastic cup or a
lot of times it's like a little Jack Daniel's empty
little bottle that floats over to my area. So yeah,
I was never doing it again.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
It was too scary.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
But so have we missed anything? John?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I mean, this has been a great ronical live unplugged.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
You know, because we have lots to say and and
the TV show was not enough for you and me.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Well, the other one I don't know what to talk
about real quick was Florida Doge. You know, we've got
Blazing Gallia, who's our new chief financial officer, who was
appointed to replace Jimmy Petronis, who got elected to Congress
to replace Matt Gate. I know it's long long.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
It's conval These are amazing people.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Serious. Yeah, they're all good people. I've known people known
Blaze for for many years.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Well, and Blaze had been the Florida chairman for the
Republican Party and he was a state senator before he
got the chief financial officer again of the fifteenth largest
economy in the entire world. I like to tell that
to people. Plus John, we're always in the black. We
know how to manage our money, that we can do
away with property taxes because Florida knows what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
And it's true. Veronica, and you know, they went down
to Orange County, which is Orlando area Disney for people
who don't know where Orlando's at Disney and Universal, and
that those people went through their through their books, you know,
looked at their their programs and their budgets and found
that they had wasted one hundred and ninety million dollars
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over five years, one hundred and ninety million dollars in
unnecessary funding. And part of that has been covered up
by the fact that their budget in the last five
years has increased by fifty four percent. So they've had
a budget increase of five hundred and sixty four million
dollars in the last five years. They're raking in so
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much money that they can waste one hundred and ninety
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Because they're lining their buddies' pockets, as you and I
have seen. I live up here where we've just we're
having a recall of a mayor. They just fired the
city manster. There's millions that that you know, it's missing
and there's no accountability. So so, and this is at
a local level in a conservative town, and it is
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not going well.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
John Well, Veronica, you know that we look at these taxes,
we get these tax bills. I don't know if you've
got yours, but I recently got my my tax notice
from from the appraiser's office. You know about my taxes
going way up, and and you know, you look at
the numbers and it's like they keep going up every year.
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You pay more, you pay more, and it's because the
assessed value of your property keeps going up. So the
government is getting an automatic an automatic raise and the
amount of money they get to spend. So you know,
in typical government, right right, We just we just end
up paying more and more and more as opposed to
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the government saying this is, you know, we don't have
any more people. You know, the population hasn't increased. Granted,
some things have gone up, you know, cost wise, you know,
like it is for everybody, you know, it goes up
for government also, but it doesn't go up that much.
So you know, the you end up with the government
getting more and more money, and as typical, they spend
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every dime they get. And then they sit there and
the politicians come back to you and say, hey, we
haven't raised your taxes. You know, it's like, well, why
am I paying more money on my tax bill if
you haven't raised my taxes? And what they should be
doing is rolling back, you know, based on if the
property assessment goes up five percent in one year, they
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should roll back the amount of tacks they're collecting by
five percent. That's the way you should the same amount
of money. Right. Well, I've tried that.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I mean, you and I both tried to clean it up.
And that's the other thing you fight the good old
boy system that they're getting their pockets aligned so they
don't want the you know the Doge.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
They don't want to change drawn or the.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Doge Ronica coming in because we will clean it up
because you know, I think too. Having been in the military,
you have a finite amount of money. We always had
to spend, you know, our budget. At the end of
the fiscal year, you spent it down to the penny
and you know, so, yeah, there was waste buying a
you know, the twelve big screen TV. But it's because
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the money didn't turn over. But if you could have
used it for something else, you would have used it
for something else.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
You know. It's that mentality though, you know, use it
or lose it, Spend it or lose it, right, that's
the mentality. You know. You may not need another a
twelve video big big screen, but we're going to get
one anyway because if we don't do it, then the
money will go away.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
I want one hundred inches, John, one hundred. I've got
eighty five, but one hundred like ten K. So until
you get that cheap knockoff version, I can't have it yet.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
My husband's you need to.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Be going for the eight K version. Bronica the it's
got the four.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
K, four K. He's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Though, except when you're trying to watch football, they're on
like fifty different freaking platforms. My husband actually had to
get out the old timey antenna the other day because
it wasn't coming and right on whatever that c W network,
and he had to balance it in the window on
one of our big screen TVs and literally that you know,
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that's another show, because I'm tired of I don't even
know how to watch a game anymore, to go find
it and then you have to get out. And the
only reason we have the damn antenna is for when
we have hurricanes around here, and it was in my window.
It just needed some tickfoil and we would have been
good to go. So John, we need to make that
app because when I'm old, I'm not gonna be able
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to find who the you know, I watch games makes
off how cute the quarterback is, and I won't find
which which where the game's landed.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Well, at least at least there is an app that
will tell you which way to point the antenna to
get to the to the right station. There is an
app for that.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Oh my gosh, Okay, Well, my husband needs it because
it was in the window and I'm like we pay
for NFL. We've gotten direct TV and a damn twenty
dollars antenna was in my window.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
John, So.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
You can't even make this stuff up. But sure, Well anyways,
it's been a great Veronica I've unplugged. We're going to
do more of these because there's just too much to
talk about in a one hour TV show. Once a
week is not enough time. Because John and I were
on the air for several years, we used to talk
to three hours.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yeah, I know, it's at a time, and I really
missed the team interviews that we used to do. You know,
we have a guest, you know, we both you know,
interview them and talk to them and stuff. And I
was always really good back and forth.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
You know, Yeah, you're super smart. But about that for
joining our Veronica Live unplugged. And then John, tomorrow you
and I are going to shoot the TV show, so
you'll be my woman there and I'm sure we'll have
plenty of updates because the world doesn't stop turning and
you know, mad chaos. So I just want to wish
everybody a blessed day today and thanks for joining our
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Veronica Live Unplugged.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
God bless
Welcome to Veronica Live.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And I'm here with my wingman, John Salik, because you know,
a one hour TV show, John is not enough.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
You and I have.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Lots to say, and you're wearing a Veronica Live shirt
that nobody can see today. He's always my wingman. He's
always my wingman. I'll just my hand. Oh yeah, there
you go, wingman. Well, John, there's just too much to
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talk about. And literally, you know, I did a show
yesterday with Darren gob we only talked about Charlie Kirk.
And because literally I'm not kidding, every everybody that talks
to me messaged me, texts me.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's been almost a week. Tomorrow it will be.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
A week since he passed. Everybody's still so distraught by
this entire thing. And then, I don't know if you
caught yesterday the JD. Vance hosting the Charlie Kirk Show,
a lot of snip's came out of there that we're
going to go after Steven Miller says, we're going to
go after these fringe groups and handle it. And then,
(01:07):
you know, this should have never happened, and then JD.
Vance said, in strong words, We're not going to unify
with anybody if you're the bad guy, there's no unity
and I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Right, no common ground, you know, veronic. The thing that
surprised me is just the the outpouring and I'm talking
the range of outpouring. It's it's like everybody somehow spiritually
felt this, this this disaster, this this death, you know,
i mean, the it's just incredible, you know, from NASCAR races,
(01:41):
you know, taking taking a moment at NASCAR races, the
football games, you know, taking a moment putting his picture
up on the jumbo tron, you know, and taking a
moment of silence to remember. I mean, it the the
outpouring for somebody that thirty one years old, and it's like,
you know, you think people never Charlie Kirk in a
turning point, what is this? And the depth that this
(02:06):
has affected people is just astonishing to me, you know.
I mean it's on the order of, you know, if
Trump had been you know, assassinated or whatever. You know,
it's on that level almost of a national mourning, you know,
and I'm I'm really quite taken by that. You know,
I'm hopeful for it too, because it's the reach that
(02:29):
he had is astonishing, you know, and that's really.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Happy about it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I'm happy about it because we've got to change, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
And it goes back to Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You know, I was Trump's chair twenty fifteen sixteen for
a year, and I know plenty of people that Ding
Dong ditched me because I was supporting Trump. And here
we are, what ten years later, and we're still dealing
with this because the vitriol is still there. I mean,
families have been fractured, you know. So it's just been,
(03:03):
it's been. It hasn't ended. And now we're like at
the at the you know, top of the mountain here
and now somebody has been killed. And the other thing
that's been disgusting John is all of these people, doctors, nurses, teachers, professors,
so many people that have come out and said, oh,
(03:23):
they were happy he was killed. They were happy he
was killed. I'm trying to find here. I've got to
find there's a pundit that's on the left and he
came out and he's just so happy about it. Famous
podcaster Stephen Bonnell, he's on CNN known as Destiny, calls
for conservatives to be killed more often so that they
(03:47):
will be afraid to attend events or speak out. He said,
you need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
They go to events.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
What is this?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I'm gonna say, shit, what is this?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Shit? It's shick, veronic, It is just it's absolute sick
and it's and it's just depraved indifference, I think is
what the legal legal term is if I remember correctly,
and that's what it is. I mean, these people are
morally bankrupt. They have no value system and that's the problem.
They don't have any value for human life. And and
(04:20):
you know, and as as you know, Charlie Kirk espoused
many times there, you know, on these college campuses talking
to these to these young people, particularly about abortion. You know,
human life has value, you know, whether it's whether it's
you know, in the womb or been born, it has value.
And these people, you know, they think abortion is fine,
It's okay to kill that piece of tissue. They they
(04:43):
think that because to them that human life has no value.
And and you know, I saw I saw one of
the clips. You know, I've seen a lot of clips
lately of Charlie, clips of Charlie's you know, arguments with
number of these people they had one. You know, the
lady at one of these events got up there and
and said that, you know, she she was a she
was a product you know, of of a of a rape,
(05:06):
and and her mother decided not not to have an abortion.
And she went through a lot of abuse and stuff
when she was young, you know, the first first eight
or ten years of her life. And and and then
finally got out of that, you know, and got got
adopted and had a much better life out of that.
And and she's she's standing there saying, my life has value,
(05:27):
you know. I I'm glad they didn't want to abort me,
you know, even though I had to go through a
lot of miserable you know, life life events that you know,
But my life has value, you know. And and and
that was that was the kind of thing that you
need to hear. That. And these people have a complete disregard,
I think, for human life. And if you're cheap in
human life, you don't mind aborting it. You don't mind
(05:49):
murdering people, you know, you don't mind killing people. That's
all great, you know, in the name of whatever it
is they believe in, because they sure don't believe in God.
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
No, they don't believe in God.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
One of the one of the stories that made me
happy was a New Jersey nurse was suspended without pay
for calling out a doctor who cheered Charlie Kirk's death
and was happy about it. And she has since been
reinstated and the doctor has been let go.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I mean, this is.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
This is brave on her. This is crap, you know.
And and now, I mean, I just had surgery Friday.
I'm like, I don't want to tell any doctor in
my political.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Viewsand you know, and that's that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I mean, you had that thought because people always ask
me what do you do? And then I'm like, oh, well,
I host a talk show. You know, I don't know
if I want if I'm going to be, you know,
as willing to state that in the future when you're
dealing with a doctor or a nurse.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's that's the bad part about this is America. That's
that's not the way it's supposed to be. You shouldn't
be afraid to, you know, state what your beliefs are,
you know, and as Christians, you know, we shouldn't be
cowering in stating what our beliefs are. I mean, you know,
we're supposed to be out there evangelizing and carrying the
word of God forward, you know, to everybody. And and
(07:09):
that's what Charlie Kirk was doing, you know, that's all
he was doing. He was talking, he was talking, and.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Winds weapons, you know. And then so yesterday as well,
Cash Bettel came out and I guess this killer said,
you know, and in one of these forums that he
had an opportunity to take out Charlie.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Kirk and he was going to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And so, you know, and he was living with this
for baby person was becoming a man into a woman.
And and and we're you know, we've got those the
queer group too that's been involved. They're called uh what
are they called, John, It's it's Queers for Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Something like that. Armed Queers, Armed Queers for Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And so so they've been idea in all of this mess.
And uh so I think it's going to come out
that there was a bunch of them you know that
kind of egged him on, and they all need to
be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, well this is all this is all the dark
side of the Internet, you know. And I think it's
it's deconstructioning, deconstructing our social order in these in these places,
you know, because they just they just feed on each other,
you know, they just build each other up and feed
on each other. You know, let's kill whoever, you know,
and and you know, again it's all morally repugnant stuff.
(08:32):
You know that you'd want to go out and kill anybody.
But uh, you know, and back back to you know,
the things you hear about this kid. You know, Oh,
he was like really smart. You know, he had a
full full ride scholarship, you know, to college, you know,
on and on and on and then and then he
gets on the internet and he just descends into this hell,
uh you know, and and is converted and swayed to
(08:53):
the point that he thinks it's okay to kill somebody.
You know. I just I just don't understand. I can't
matt fathom the mental pro that it takes to get there,
you know, because I have a belief system that's anchored
in you know, in God, and you know, so you know,
you can't go there if you believe this, you know.
So I don't know what happened, what twisted his mind.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You know, there's things that you know, have changed the world.
And I think this assassination has changed the world, John
because a lot of times on Facebook, people don't you know,
they're just posting their you know, had a birthday party,
had an anniversary. I flew to Croatia, and this, this
(09:36):
assassination has woken people up, you know, and so and
I felt that way when Trump was assass almost assassinated
at Butler. I felt that that night I had an
event I had to go to and it happened literally
right before I went to the event, and the mood
was different that night. It finally woke up people that
(09:57):
weren't paying attention that this was real.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And you know, and.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It all stems back to Obama and Biden, and they
keep saying that we're the problem. We don't go around
trying to kill people and and ruin them.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Right, we don't. We don't call people Nazis, you know,
we don't say, you know, you know that you're a fascist.
You know, that's not that's that's Democrat leftist words. Okay,
that's not that's not Republican words. I can't remember the
last time I heard a Republican call a democrat. You know, uh,
you know, a Nazi or a communist. Well I call it.
Excuse I called yeah, because he is.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
He's the real deal, Okay, the real one, right, that's
but I'm not I'm not urging to kill.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Kill him, right.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No, we don't act like that.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I mean, I hope people don't vote for him, but
that's different.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm continually posting, Please New York wake up. You cannot
vote for this individual, you know. And that's what it
comes down to. I don't wish him death, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And if right, and if that's what New Yorkers choose,
then that's what New Yorkers choose. That's the kind of
life they want. And I'm fine with that. That's why
they get to vote, you know. And I don't get
to vote in New York because I don't have a
say in how they want to live, you know. But
if New York wants to live like that, then let
them live like that. But if Kami Mandami comes down
here to to you know, down to Bay County here,
(11:31):
you know, Panama City, and wants to run for something,
I'm definitely voting against him.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well let's hope they wake up, you know, and so
another person that was pushing the rhetoric. It's been so
many of these people, but that like for example, that
podcast or Destiny, I don't ever want to see his
face on a CNN camera, hear his podcast anywhere. I mean,
these people, we need to hammer the nails in their
(11:59):
coffee in that no more from them pushing this ludicrous speech.
I mean, I mean what that man said to kill conservatives,
So we don't show up because you know what Ben
Shapiro said, He's not going to do another outdoor event again,
you know, And I will say after the butler, I
was concerned for Trump and then when and we don't
even have all the details on that John. I mean,
(12:21):
that was another radical kid loser that we know nothing about.
And we still know nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
We still know nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And Trump's you know, still always out there, literally always
out there. Well Val Demings who ran she here in Florida,
ran against Senator Marco Rubio and she's a black woman
Democrat and she posted four days ago. Trump now says
rhetoric causes violence. He's right, but he's suspect number one.
(12:51):
This is a man who divides America into supporters and enemies,
and there can be no disagreement. This this rhetoric hurts
American America. If a disagreement means death, you're not free.
So so who caused the death?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
John, I say, I don't. I don't. When was the
last time you heard Trump call for somebody to be killed,
you know, because he didn't agree with their with.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Their beliefs dumb, right and ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And and I have no problem with that, you know,
because these people are dumb and ridiculous and they need
to be called out, you know. And and so I
have no I have no no problem with with with
with Trump's words because they're not you know. And and
the left, of course always says, oh, they're hateful, they're
divisive and all this kind of stuff. And it's like,
what's divisive about make America great again? What what's divisive
(13:39):
about that? You know? American exceptional? What made this country right?
You know, we had We've had whole generations in World
War One and World War two, Korean War. I mean,
all these people sacrificed a lot, you know for MAGA
right to make America great again. That's why they did it,
because they believed in this country and our place in
(14:00):
the world. And these these leftist democrats, you know, these
are the colonialists. You know, Obama's probably number one. You know,
he thinks he thinks America is illegitimate because you know,
we're a colonialist society and we stole everything.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, yeah, truck is still pushing slavery, okay, and this
woman has never been a slave in her life. And
you know, it reaches the point now where there for me, John,
there is a there's a line in the sand. I
have the last year, I've just had enough of this,
and I've been pushing back. I've been pushing back, right,
(14:37):
you know, because I know a couple of people that
I know on social media. They were like, oh, big deal,
why is everybody all you know? Oh, Charlie was killed?
Who cares? And I wrote an op ed last week,
you know, talking about all of this, and I sent
it to both of these people, and I drew a
line in the sand, because you don't rejoice when a
(14:59):
father of two and a young husband is killed.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Over words.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
He was not in combat on a frontline in Afghanistan.
So so I'm I'm done. I'm done with with people
acting like this. I'm done when it comes to abortion,
which I've been done a long time ago. I mean,
I still I'm not going to forgive the d n
C for bringing up of abortion. You know, vehicle that
(15:26):
you get ice cream out of to give twenty five
abortions out.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The d n C.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
These people have issues and their moral compass is.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Gone, right, It's just it's just spitting in every direction,
you know, right, And and that's and that's the problem.
You know, they're the same people. Ron I can say
that say that the United States is not a country
that was that was founded in the image of God,
you know. And it's like, wait a minute, you better
go back and and read the Declaration of Independence, you know,
(15:56):
read that last paragraph there. You know, who are they petitioning?
The petitioning God in the in the Declaration of Independence,
you know, to put his blessings on this country. You
know that. Don't tell me that the founding fathers were
godless men. You know that they didn't that they didn't
believe in God. That's crap. That's that's that's one hundred
(16:16):
percent crap. And that was the one thing that Charlie
Kirk was superb that doing, was taking that and just
defeating these people with facts and and the logic of
how this stuff was put together, how this country was
put together. And to sit there and say this is
an atheist based country, you know, it's like, yeah, we
have a constitution, we protect freedom of religion. That means
(16:39):
that the government doesn't have an official religion like they
do in the in in England, you know, they have
you know, the Church of England. You know, the king
is the head of the Church of England. Okay, that
that doesn't work in America. You know, we don't have
a king and we don't have an official state religion.
Everybody is free to believe what they want to believe
or not believe anything at all. And and to me,
(17:01):
that's fine it you know it by you you know,
on judgment day, you sit there and you account for yourself,
you know, and you don't account to me, you account
to God. And that's that's my belief. You're never going
to change it.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But and this country allows it was so lovely. But
you know, I really want to root out all of
this madness because like Clemson too, you know, they had
all these radical professors they've since been fired. And I
put I put out there, I'm like Clemson alumni you know,
(17:34):
do something because how many how many parents have you met,
I've met, They've sent their children off to school and
the children come back liberal.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
You know that climate change is something.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know, my daughter took an extreme weather class at
the University of Florida and it was all about climate change.
And you know, you and I've hosted one of our
weathermen here that is just literally the best meteorologist known
to man. And I remember I brought that up to
him and he laughed, you know, because people make stuff
up and then they start pushing their key talking points
(18:08):
and I'm literally done with it. We've got to have
We've got to clean up this world. I mean, and
I say this all the time with you. I've said
it for years now. Faith and family's part of it too,
because people are missing that as well. But we you know,
we don't need these radical professors like the one Clemson one.
She had queer. She taught queer something like fifty times.
(18:30):
It was in her bio and I was reading this
bio and I was puking. I mean, I mean, that's
when we go off to college to study about your
queerness and push your agenda. No, we're trying to grow
world citizens to lead, and these colleges have not been leading.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well. The problem, Ronica is the colleges aren't about education.
They're about indoctrination nowadays, and they have so many they have.
Of course, it always goes back to money too. That's
another another you know, money the root of all evil, right,
and the colleges have just bought into this. And you
got to remember, the people that are running running the
institutions these days are the are the the nineteen sixties radicals,
(19:10):
you know that that generation fortunately is you know, my
generation is retiring and leaving. But they've but they've been
in they've been there, excuse me, they've been in there
for the last twenty years, uh, you know, twenty five
thirty years. And they've been infecting these institutions with with
this with this bizarre, you know, view of the world.
(19:32):
And again it's it's just morally bankrupt. And you can't
have a country, you can't have a society that that
has no moral basis. Everything you know, right and wrong
is is based on moral relativism, right, you know. And
and you and I look at the world, you know,
we look at that because of our religious faith. We
(19:52):
look at things we understand objective truth, and these people
with no moral with no moral foundation, everything true the
subjective to them, it's all, it's all relative to whatever
the context of whatever it is you're talking about. And
that's a that's a bizarre it's a bizarre, you know
ideology we've got going on.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Because this weekend I went to a publix and then
I went to a department store. There was a girl
dressed up like one of these furries and and I'm like,
what the hell's wrong with you? And then in the
publics this girl had her hair shaved with like leopard
kind of it was fully shaved, but she had like
(20:34):
her head looked like a leopard and was wearing a
mask John and I wanted to rip that mask off
because I'm past masks. But I'm like, who are their parents.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
That are allowing the shiza to happen?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So we've got to get control of our society and
get our moral compass back. And it's it's time. It's time,
you know. I went to an event last night. It
was a Military Affairs committee event here, and so a
bunch of generals were there and colonels, all kinds of
leadership and you know, I was talking with with I
talk with everybody like I do, and I could tell
(21:10):
that there was a new They were all their hearts were,
you know, back lit up and being in the military's
cool again.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Were the Department of War.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
They know that they have a commander in chief that
is fighting for them. They were, you know, hag Seth
happy to support. I could tell John things were different,
and that just warmed my heart just talking with all
of these people because I worked for generals for twenty years,
and I will say the last few years, everybody was
afraid to say boo because you know who who what group?
(21:46):
The Bidens? The Obamas were constantly attacking our side. I
don't know if you've seen Eric Trump has got a
new book out. Would love to book him on one
of my shows, and he's been rehashing everything that their
family went through. And when you start to hear him
just spew it all out, You're like, oh my god,
you forget right. So we've been in a I really
(22:08):
do think a spiritual warfare with all of this mess
because the bad guys wanted to win and then they
pretend they're Catholic.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
You know, I'm like, no, you're not you're not so.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, it's just you know, I'm glad. I'm glad to
see the military is coming back. We have, you know,
the military is not having problems meeting their recruiting goals.
Now all of a sudden fire Biden's not president and
Trump's president, and now now we can actually recruit enough
volunteers that actually want to be in the military because
they actually think the military might be something useful and
not and not this social experiment that the Democrats and then.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Wearing skirts in the military.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I'm like, give you a break, I mean, no, no,
so uh well, I know you wanted to talk about.
Somebody else is throwing their hat in the ring for
you know, Florida to be our governor. And just so
people know, Florida's the fifteenth largest economy in the world,
(23:05):
and you can't win the White House unless you go
through Florida. We've had Governor DeSantis is going to be
wrapping up his second term. He's been on fire, and
before him was Governor Scott who's now our Florida Senator.
So we always need to ensure that Florida. We've gone
from nineteen million to about twenty three million since COVID
because everybody's moving down here. We don't have state income tax,
(23:28):
so we have more money in our bank account.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
John, So this is a state that leads the way.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And like DeSantis says, man, he's had his sleigh the
woke sort out for a couple of years now.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So we're very proud of him.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But so, who's the latest, because we know Byron Donald's
is thrown his hat in the ring and he's our
congressman here in Florida. You see him nationally all over.
He's a good guy and Trump has actually endorsed him.
We had our speaker runner through his hat in the
ring and Governor DeSantis poo poo that.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
But now we have a Democrat, So tell me about.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
The dem So, speaking speaking of val Demings, her her
husband is the mayor of Orlando and and he has
decided apparently to jump in on the Democrat side, uh
to run for governor and uh so be interesting to
see if if we end up with a black Republican
and a black Democrat buying for the Democrat the governorship
(24:29):
of Florida. Although he has to go through a primary
and and his that's going to be a pretty pretty
tough primary. There's there's already one former Republican turned Democrat
that's running. I guess he couldn't win as a Republican,
so he switched over to the Democrat party to try
and win win the nomination. And and usually turncoats like
(24:51):
that don't don't get well received, as as Charlie.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Christ with Christ congressman governor wanted to be a senator,
I mean the mamazone and.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
It's like, you know, oh, I'll be a Republican today,
I'll be a Democrat tomorrow, and then I'll be an
independent and you know, just a chameleon is what he is,
just anything to run run for office. And so so
we'll see how the Democrat primary works out. I think
what it's going to end up with is the Republicans
are gonna end up with a huge dollar advantage because
(25:23):
if the if the Democrats have a hotly contested primary,
they're gonna end up spending a lot of money trying
to win win the Democrat nomination. Plus you have to
appeal to the leftist crazies on the Democrat side.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
We've seen just so people know, Florida, we've got over
a million Republican voters are Republican part of Florida is
really run with the football to try to make Florida
a red state. When Governor DeSantis his last race, it
was he ran against Nikki Freed, who was an agricultural commissioner,
and I was shocked that she wanted as a dem
(25:57):
And then she ended up being Florida's running the Democrat party.
And she was literally a disaster because her her living
boyfriend is like a pot a pot uh, he owns
a bunch of pot companies, and that was her thing,
let's push the pot agenda. And the woman's just been
a disaster ever since. Even though she pretends like everybody
(26:18):
cares about her, we really don't. So so can can
a black mayor say that a Republican candidate is racist?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Are we going to have racist issues?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Of course? Right? That's you know, look at what they
look at what they do to you know, Justice Thomas,
you know the stuff they call him, you know, doctor
Ben Carson. You know, we've had we've had a lot
of prominent black black Republicans, right and and they just
(26:48):
they just call them all kinds of nasty names there.
You know, even though these people are they're they're they're smart.
There's intellectually smart people. They're accomplished people, you know, and
and and the fact that they're black to me is irrelevant.
They're smart, accomplished people. And I like smart accomplished people.
You know, I don't. I don't care what your race.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Is, no either, But just just to remind people, because
when Desantas first ran for governor, it was a close race,
and he was running against a black candidate, Mayor Andrew
Gillam of Tallahassee, and he didn't win by that much.
And then you all come to find out and and
Andrew Gillam was like Ivy League educated.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
He ended up being a CNN spokesperson. He was wonderful.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
But then fast forward, he was married, three children, he
ends up down in South Florida, drugged out, passed out
with a gay porn star. So these are the people.
They don't have the values. And I remember the night
he won the primary, because we had Gwen Graham, who'd
been our congressman here, whose.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Daddy had been a governor.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I thought was gonna be who was gonna win the
dead side, and she didn't, which was shocking. And then
I was like, who the hell's Andrew Gillam. Oh, well,
we quickly learned who Andrew Gillam was and to think,
you know which, I we're not going to be close
like that again, because our our pof has done such
a great job. But it was a little scary to
(28:18):
wake up and you don't know who this guy is.
And then when you eventually find out what this guy
is that could have been in you know, the governor's mansion.
It was a little scary, John, It was a little scary.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's right, you know that one is was really close
and I'm I'm glad to see you know, I think
it was it was the education thing, the education moms
that they kind of threw the Santas over the top
on that one, because you know, Gillam was was was
a creature of the teachers Union and and didn't believe
in in a lot of the standardized stuff that you
(28:51):
know that that Des Santas wanted to bring education wise,
So you know, the Democrat bench is so thin in
this to Florida, it's not even funny. And they've been losing.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Don't even bother mayor Devings, we don't need you.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
So you know they're there. They have longholds. You know,
and in different places. You know, I think I think
in Tampa, Saint Pete's still Miami. Yeah, but there Miami
days kind of shifting it hurting. Yeah, they they they
We've actually had Republicans win down there, you know, which well.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
People like when their bank accounts are bigger, and and
that comes with you know, Governor DeSantis keeps talking about
that we're not going to have to pay property tax
like other states have to do. And if that happens,
I mean, that should solidify a Republican for years to come,
because I don't want to give my money away.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I honestly don't.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well, you know, we we've got issues I think that
are going to be that are going to be a
good compare and contrast you know for any any governor's
candidates running. You know, we've got like, you know, the
vaccine mandate good good good example there, uh you know
where where or the state surgeon General Joseph Ladappo, you know,
(30:07):
is urging the state, you know, and with Governor DeSantis
is backing is to eliminate mandatory vaccines for school children
and to start making you know, start start letting the
parents make the decision instead of the government making decisions
on vaccinating your kids. I was shocked at the number,
you know, during some congressional testimony, uh, listening to Secretary Kennedy. Uh,
(30:33):
one of one of the senators that's a doctor, you know,
said that by the time you're eighteen, you know, today's children,
by the time they're eighteen, have had like seventy vaccinations.
Seventy vaccinations, and it starts as soon as you're born.
They're giving you a hepatitis B vaccination, you know, to
babies that have just been born. Right. So so it's
(30:54):
like there's something wrong, you know, And where's all this
this autism coming from. Where's all this the.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Florida Florida's pushing back.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's this Big Farmer wants you to get all of
these shots and and everything, and especially the COVID shot.
You know, I've been I've had a bunch of people
I've interviewed over the last couple of years because I
don't children don't get COVID, and they've been pushing this
damn shot from six months to you know, however old.
And now at least that's going away, but Big Farmer
(31:28):
didn't want it to go away because they're all living
in their mansions driving lard Lambo's John as babies are getting.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Hurt and killed.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
So so yeah, I'm I'm over it. And you know
that's that's the one thing. RFK Junior, you know, they're
the Kennedy Center had an event this weekend on Sunday
for Charlie Kirk and he spoke and you know, he
was a beloved Democrat until he came to the dark
side with President Trump. But he has been literally lovely
(31:58):
as he cleaned up the CDC and these people that
don't care about your safety or my safety, they only
care about their bank accounts.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
John, And so you know.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
He's another He's a Democrat that'll be in sainthood because
of the blowback he's gotten for supporting Trump doing the
right thing. I mean, who doesn't want make America healthy again?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
You know what I mean? What's wrong with saying, you know,
eat eat unprocessed whole foods. You know, I.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Meanright, blue diet Gatorade. I love to drink when I'm
sick because I'm always like, why is this so it's
such a pretty color. So hopefully I don't kick the
can because I've had a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Sean Well you know, Ronnick, it's interesting if people get
get outraged. I don't know if you remember a couple
couple years ago, maybe four or five years ago, there
was there was this outrage over this over this processed
meat product, you know, that apparently was some kind of
some kind of they take all the leftover, you know,
from the cow's a slaughter and we're turning it into
(32:58):
a meat product, and and it was some kind of
ooze or goo or whatever. And people were outraged over
over this stuff being sold, you know, and fed to
our kids and that kind of stuff. And it's like, yeah,
that's what you call ultra processed food, you know, because
it's got all kinds of goop in it that had
no idea what's in it, just all the leftovers, and
you have no idea what the effects are on people
(33:20):
long term. So you know, we've done the same thing
with these vaccines, with all these dyes that we add
to the food, the preservatives, you know, look at it.
Look at the list on an item of food. Okay,
pick up the package and read the ingredients, you know.
And the last thing on.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Irish in Greece last fall for three weeks and everything
was fresh and I felt great.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And it was funny.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
All the people I was with, it was about thirty
people said the same thing. So, but you know, you
end up being the bad guy because once again it
comes down to Trump derangement syndrome. And so so let
let mister mayor Deming's run. We'll take your money, but
you're not gonna win. You're not gonna win. And that's
the other thing is anytime Trump says this is who I.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Want, they normally win. John.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So the other story and Florida Attorney General Declaire's open
carry of guns law of the state and that just
came out like seventeen hours ago. And I know you
wanted to talk about that because you know, for I've
had a concealed carry for years. This has been people
been talking about this forever and I always do stay,
(34:32):
if you're going to have a gun, you need to
receive training and know how to secure it if it's
not on you. But so, what are your thoughts on
this open carry? I mean, Florida is definitely pushing it. Uh,
some of the legislators, you know, some of the people
out there don't want this. But then there's been sheriff saying, ah,
I open carry I'm fine with, especially like sheriffa I
(34:53):
be down in Brevard County.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
He always leads the way.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, well, Ronica, you know, I've been pushing for open
carry for back in the day when I was chairman
of the baycount Republican Party and actually playing politics, you know,
in Tallahassee and stuff and pushing for it, you know,
and and for many years Senator Kathleen Pasadimo, who was
formerly her last thing, was president of the Florida Senate.
(35:18):
But she she was the one solely she blocked open
kerry in Florida because she just didn't want it. I
don't know what her motivations were. I've talked to I
talked to a lot of senators and stuff, and they're like,
nobody was going to go against her on this.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
They won't go against her.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
And I know this because last year, you know, I
was the Republican Liberty Caucus director for the Panhandle and
met heard her speak and nobody would go against.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Her at all.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
John, I mean, I literally was surprised because as Republicans,
the Second Amendment means something to us, and you just
you don't take it away, right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
And that's what I had the issue with was like
the second man, the Second Amendment. You know, if I
can concealed carry, why and I accidentally, you know, my
shirt comes up or whatever and it exposes a gun.
You know, Now now I've committed a crime. And it's like,
you know that that's ridiculous, But that's what the law.
That's what the law is in Florida. And you know,
(36:16):
we had the first the first district Court of Appeals
overturned the conviction. I believe it was in an Escambia
man that was arrested for open carrying a weapon and said,
you've got to The court said you have a constitutional
right to open carry in this state. And Governor Desantists
thankfully has said we're not going to appeal it. We're
(36:36):
just going to let it stand. You know, the Attorney
General said the same thing, We're not appealing this. That
is going to become So now we've got an issue
with the state law being out of whack with with
the with a court finding that the law is unconstitutional.
So I think the House and the Senate in the
next session are going to be forced to address this.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
So, you know, are they us that we're Republicans?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Right, So they've got, they've got a court.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
They want open carry.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I have to tell you, and that you're pushing for it, it
needs to land in his direction.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Right. So so the only the only place that the
decision really makes official, you know, uh, matter is in
is in the first district, which is uh, you know,
the northern I think thirty counties. When it covers up
here in northwestern Florida. The rest of the state of Florida,
they can still enforce open carry if they want. And
that's where the Sheriff's Association has said, you know, their
(37:34):
recommendation to all the sheriffs across the state of Florida
is not to enforce open carry anymore. Now you still
have the city police, you know, they can do it.
They can enforce it if they want to enforce the law,
except in the thirty counties where the court's founded illegal. Uh.
But you know, everybody's kind of a you know.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You know, and I'm due to to renew my concealed
carry and you know, especially in the climate that we
live in these days, I want to be carrying.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
You know, I always always be passed.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
You do know you don't need to get your concealed
carry anymore. Right, You've had your constitutional carry in Florida,
so so you don't even need the license anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Now I got mine renews money, and I don't have
to have an ugly picture.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Well I got I got mine renewed, mainly because I
travel to different states and I carry. I carry with me, okay,
and I think almost all states have reciprocal agreements with Florida.
But you better have some proof that you've got a
concealed carry permit if you get stopped in one of
these other states. And that's the only reason, that's the
(38:39):
only reason I.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Got to do that, because if I'm driving over to Alabama,
you know, I want them to know that that I'm legit.
But you know, I don't know why this is our
Republicans are dragging that Pasadoma. She definitely was a problem,
and I don't like that, you know, and and and actually,
(39:01):
you know, I sat in some meetings with some high
level legislators when I went to Tallahassee a couple of
times last year, and I was kind of scandalized that
Republicans weren't totally pro Second Amendment.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I was just like, what, because well, well, I have
I have a feeling Veronica. It's going to get changed
in the legislature in the next session. I remember, we've
got a governor's race going on, and I think you're
going to find, of course, DeSantis is going to be
pushing for it, you know, because he he's behind it.
He wants it, he wanted it done already, and so
so I think you're going to see the governor behind
(39:34):
it on his legislative agenda. I think you're going to
see Byron Daniels as a candidate behind it because it's
a very popular issue, okay, and I can't imagine him.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Again canhandle And this is this is hunting country, so everybody,
I mean, you constantly see people in their hunting garb
and so so in the Panhandle, they're going to support
open carry at every moment.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Right And you know, the definition of gun control up
here is we don't miss.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Well that's goodye, So anyway, do why we go to
the range. I'm a chick that like, just so you know,
and I don't even need I do have one weapon
that has the laser. I don't even need the laser,
so so you gotta be good, okay. Well, and the
other story, I know that we wanted to talk about
(40:31):
here was we've.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Got Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
North here in the Panhandle, John, So I knew this
was coming, and once again I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
So talk about that.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, Well, bake Baker County as a place called Baker
Correctional Institute, which was which was closed and has been
recently reopened and it's now been renamed Deportation Depot. So
it's a it's all right. So you know, Florida's becoming
a popular destination and for immigrants about to be deported,
(41:07):
which is what they should be well, and ones that
are here illegally.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Like everybody that's being deported has a criminal record. I mean,
that's who they've started with. And the left is always
up in arms because even at Alligator Alcatraz down south,
there's been a judge that stepped in it too, trying
to stop this stuff and once it closed. And I
am and we've talked about this for a while, these
(41:31):
activist judges.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I am done with John, I'm done with them.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Well, I was glad to see the Alligator Alley they
you know, they had a bunch of people tried to
sue them in federal court over alligator alley, and the
judge basically threw them out as having no standing because
it wasn't a federal facility. It's a state facility. And
the judge basic said, federal government has no has no
say over the operation of this place. It's a state
facility where they're housing people that are that are about
(41:59):
to be deported and have deportation orders. So it's not
it's the only the only federal part of that is
a deportation order. But the fact that they're in state
custody and it's a state facility, then then the federal
government really has no say over how it's run, you know,
from a daily operation kind of thing. So so they
kind of left it there. And then another judge, you know,
(42:20):
they were trying to sue them over the fact that
you know, they're built, it's in the everglade, you know,
and they've they've got all this environmental damage they were
doing and all that, and it's like, well, yeah, well,
I love I love that fence there. We don't have
a fence here because there's alligators out there. If you
want to go out and play with them, which you're
welcome to if.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
You're if you come to visit Florida. The rule is
if there's water, you always expect an alligator to be there.
So you don't joke about that, because it's true. So
so feel.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Free if you want to jump into that little.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Advice somewhere, because you may not be making it out sadly.
I mean this is I'm not joking. This is serious
stuff here in Florida. There's water.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Remember a few years ago, I was out on Deer
Point Lake up there, you know, and it was it
was nighttime and we're driving around in a pontoon boat there,
and and you could see these these these yellow glowing
orbs that you can.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Know, scary John. I live on the water. I've tried
to clean the little the little grass, and I bought
even a little hand thing that I can pick up
the trash. But after I I did that, you know,
I did it. This is the beginning of the year.
My one neighbor said she saw an alligator down by
her house. So I'm not I'm not picking up trash anymore.
(43:39):
So please don't pollute because it ends up in my
little sock grass there because I was scared the whole time. So,
I mean, this is serious stuff here. So I'm all
for putting these you know, deportation places where there's alligators,
because if you ever have.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Done one of those swamp tour, I mean you're right.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
And then they'll did they throw on a chicken and
you see like fifty come out, you know, down in Miami.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
The next time you get out, they go out to
clean Veronica take put a chicken on a fishing pole
and hold it out.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I retired. I was prepping for a Super Bowl party
that I have every year because people always have to
go out and look at the water. Well you're just
gonna have to look at that plastic cup or a
lot of times it's like a little Jack Daniel's empty
little bottle that floats over to my area. So yeah,
I was never doing it again.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
It was too scary.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
But so have we missed anything? John?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I mean, this has been a great ronical live unplugged.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
You know, because we have lots to say and and
the TV show was not enough for you and me.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Well, the other one I don't know what to talk
about real quick was Florida Doge. You know, we've got
Blazing Gallia, who's our new chief financial officer, who was
appointed to replace Jimmy Petronis, who got elected to Congress
to replace Matt Gate. I know it's long long.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
It's conval These are amazing people.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Serious. Yeah, they're all good people. I've known people known
Blaze for for many years.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Well, and Blaze had been the Florida chairman for the
Republican Party and he was a state senator before he
got the chief financial officer again of the fifteenth largest
economy in the entire world. I like to tell that
to people. Plus John, we're always in the black. We
know how to manage our money, that we can do
away with property taxes because Florida knows what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
And it's true. Veronica, and you know, they went down
to Orange County, which is Orlando area Disney for people
who don't know where Orlando's at Disney and Universal, and
that those people went through their through their books, you know,
looked at their their programs and their budgets and found
that they had wasted one hundred and ninety million dollars
(45:53):
over five years, one hundred and ninety million dollars in
unnecessary funding. And part of that has been covered up
by the fact that their budget in the last five
years has increased by fifty four percent. So they've had
a budget increase of five hundred and sixty four million
dollars in the last five years. They're raking in so
(46:14):
much money that they can waste one hundred and ninety
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Because they're lining their buddies' pockets, as you and I
have seen. I live up here where we've just we're
having a recall of a mayor. They just fired the
city manster. There's millions that that you know, it's missing
and there's no accountability. So so, and this is at
a local level in a conservative town, and it is
(46:40):
not going well.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
John Well, Veronica, you know that we look at these taxes,
we get these tax bills. I don't know if you've
got yours, but I recently got my my tax notice
from from the appraiser's office. You know about my taxes
going way up, and and you know, you look at
the numbers and it's like they keep going up every year.
(47:03):
You pay more, you pay more, and it's because the
assessed value of your property keeps going up. So the
government is getting an automatic an automatic raise and the
amount of money they get to spend. So you know,
in typical government, right right, We just we just end
up paying more and more and more as opposed to
(47:24):
the government saying this is, you know, we don't have
any more people. You know, the population hasn't increased. Granted,
some things have gone up, you know, cost wise, you know,
like it is for everybody, you know, it goes up
for government also, but it doesn't go up that much.
So you know, the you end up with the government
getting more and more money, and as typical, they spend
(47:44):
every dime they get. And then they sit there and
the politicians come back to you and say, hey, we
haven't raised your taxes. You know, it's like, well, why
am I paying more money on my tax bill if
you haven't raised my taxes? And what they should be
doing is rolling back, you know, based on if the
property assessment goes up five percent in one year, they
(48:05):
should roll back the amount of tacks they're collecting by
five percent. That's the way you should the same amount
of money. Right. Well, I've tried that.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I mean, you and I both tried to clean it up.
And that's the other thing you fight the good old
boy system that they're getting their pockets aligned so they
don't want the you know the Doge.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
They don't want to change drawn or the.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Doge Ronica coming in because we will clean it up
because you know, I think too. Having been in the military,
you have a finite amount of money. We always had
to spend, you know, our budget. At the end of
the fiscal year, you spent it down to the penny
and you know, so, yeah, there was waste buying a
you know, the twelve big screen TV. But it's because
(48:47):
the money didn't turn over. But if you could have
used it for something else, you would have used it
for something else.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
You know. It's that mentality though, you know, use it
or lose it, Spend it or lose it, right, that's
the mentality. You know. You may not need another a
twelve video big big screen, but we're going to get
one anyway because if we don't do it, then the
money will go away.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
I want one hundred inches, John, one hundred. I've got
eighty five, but one hundred like ten K. So until
you get that cheap knockoff version, I can't have it yet.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
My husband's you need to.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Be going for the eight K version. Bronica the it's
got the four.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
K, four K. He's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Though, except when you're trying to watch football, they're on
like fifty different freaking platforms. My husband actually had to
get out the old timey antenna the other day because
it wasn't coming and right on whatever that c W network,
and he had to balance it in the window on
one of our big screen TVs and literally that you know,
(49:49):
that's another show, because I'm tired of I don't even
know how to watch a game anymore, to go find
it and then you have to get out. And the
only reason we have the damn antenna is for when
we have hurricanes around here, and it was in my window.
It just needed some tickfoil and we would have been
good to go. So John, we need to make that
app because when I'm old, I'm not gonna be able
(50:11):
to find who the you know, I watch games makes
off how cute the quarterback is, and I won't find
which which where the game's landed.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Well, at least at least there is an app that
will tell you which way to point the antenna to
get to the to the right station. There is an
app for that.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Oh my gosh, Okay, Well, my husband needs it because
it was in the window and I'm like we pay
for NFL. We've gotten direct TV and a damn twenty
dollars antenna was in my window.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
John, So.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
You can't even make this stuff up. But sure, Well anyways,
it's been a great Veronica I've unplugged. We're going to
do more of these because there's just too much to
talk about in a one hour TV show. Once a
week is not enough time. Because John and I were
on the air for several years, we used to talk
to three hours.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yeah, I know, it's at a time, and I really
missed the team interviews that we used to do. You know,
we have a guest, you know, we both you know,
interview them and talk to them and stuff. And I
was always really good back and forth.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
You know, Yeah, you're super smart. But about that for
joining our Veronica Live unplugged. And then John, tomorrow you
and I are going to shoot the TV show, so
you'll be my woman there and I'm sure we'll have
plenty of updates because the world doesn't stop turning and
you know, mad chaos. So I just want to wish
everybody a blessed day today and thanks for joining our
(51:35):
Veronica Live Unplugged.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
God bless
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