Veronica LIVE with Larry Schweikart - NY Times Bestselling Author - A Patriot's History of Globalism
February 12, 2024 • 46 mins
Honored to host New York Times Bestselling Author Larry Schweikart who joined VERONICA LIVE to discuss his newly released book - A Patriot’s History of Globalism It’s Rise and Decline. Superb discussion with Larry about globalism, politics, elites, Dr. Fauci and November’s important election for America’s next President. Great discussion with this professor who gets us educated in this interview on globalism in today’s world.
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Welcome back to Veronica Live. Andwe are here with a New York Times
best selling author, Larry Schweikart,and he has a newly released book.
It's called A Patriots History of Globalism. It's Rise and Decline. Welcome Larry
to Veronica Live. Thank you,Veronica. Happy to be here. And
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you are so interesting. You've beena history professor at the University of Dayton.
You open for the band Stephen Wolf. I was like so excited about
this, you know, because you'rea fancy drummer. So it was really
fun learning about you. I don'tknow why I you know, this is
the first time I bumped into you, and this is You're so worldly.
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I love it. Well, don'tforget that I wrote the history of the
US Air Force super secret project,the National Aerospace Plane, which is a
hypersonic to orbit airplane tat aerobics.Oh my goodness. Well I would think
of a drummer. You would haveto be fit, so uh. But
anyways, the book that you wrotewas Skinny, Skinny, Skinny. You're
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already and I have to say youknow your your ex your Twitter is amazing.
You are my new go to everyday and I have to vector everybody
to go there because it is sofun. And we'll get into all of
that too. But your book,you know, a Patriots History of Globalism.
Like that word globalism is so scary, So why did you write this
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book? We'll start there. Well, globalism kind of became a big deal
in the last ten years, theway American exceptionalism became a big deal about
ten years before that. And everybodywas talking about Cloud Schwab and the World
Economic Forum and the Who, notthe rock band they we played in front
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of the Who at the Troubadour,but sometimes about the World Health Organization and
of course the COVID and medical globalism. And it became apparent to a lot
of people that there were international forcesat work that had co opted many people
in the US, but of coursein all nations, and that they had
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no interest in national boundaries or nationalidentity. They only wanted to have control
over the whole world. So Istarted looking into that. I figured out,
gee, whiz, this isn't anythingnew. This started right after Napoleon,
with the Congress of Vienna, wentright through the Treaty of Versailles with
the League of Nations, started upagain with the UN and the scientists hoping
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to control atomic weapons through a smallelite of scientists. Then you had the
bankers and financiers getting involved in theInternational Monetary Fund Breton Woods. And then
most recently, you had medical globalismthrough the efforts to kind of install a
World Health organization dictatorship over everybody.And then most recently you had the climate
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change nuts who were trying to imposeinternational sanctions on people living normal lives.
So over two hundred year span,they've tried about seven or eight different methods
and failed every time. Well,you know, the chapter that gave me
the most PTSD was your COVID chapter, because that was like yesterday, and
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it was so scary and you putit all, you know, in black
and white on the pages of whatthey were trying to do to like take
over the world, and you knowwhen you're scared in lockdown. My daughter
was, you know, at Universityof Florida, ended up. You know,
I don't have a basement in Florida, so she was upstairs back in
her room. It was shocking forall of us. Plus we were so
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petrified, and you dig into that, So that chapter, like seriously PTSD
from it, because really they triedso hard to take over the world.
And doctor Fauci is just the mostevil man ever. Right, that's doctor
Fallacy to you. But yeah,they You know what was interesting about that,
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I think mostly interesting was that Ikept hearing during that time that Canada
and Australia were probably two of theworst of the lockdown crazies. And I
mean they're literally putting people in campsin Australia, and they were trying to
arrest truckers in Canada. And peoplewould say, I don't get it.
Aren't they democracies? And you know, one of the things that we developed
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in Patriots History of the United States, my New York Times number one bestseller,
was this notion that the US isdifferent from every other nation on earth.
And the reason for that is thefour pillars of American exceptionalism, and
the first to a Christian mostly Protestantreligious tradition, and the second one was
common law. And the reason thoseare both important they are bottom up governance,
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whether it's in church or whether it'sin society, and no other nation
in the world has that. Sowhen you look at Australia and Canada say
aren't they democracies? Well, youhave their democracies, but they are not
bottom up governance because they were bothruled by Britain for you know, hundreds
of years, a couple hundred yearswith top down dominion status. So they
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had no real long history as wedo, of governing themselves. So of
course they were going to do whatthe government said. Well, you had
two sentences in this COVID chapter andyou wrote what is clear is that if
there was a conspiracy by international elitesto use a disease in an attempt to
subjugate all mankind, it couldn't havebeen more effective that the measure measures came
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within a hair of working as globalistswould have wanted. I mean so scary,
you know, so scary, howbecause we think of ourselves as so
educated, Larry, and to thinkthat, you know, we were in
lockdown. Kids weren't in school.You talk about when the mask mandate went
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away, you know, people werecheering on airplanes. You know, I
was hostile because you know, I'ma young woman in her you know,
on a tropical island, and thenyou make me wear a mask on an
airplane. I'm sweating. So Iwas over it all. So you know
what I think was most surprising aboutthat is I still have my fingers and
toes in the rock and roll world. Back in twenty ten, we did
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a documentary film called Rock in theWall about how rock music helped bring down
the Berlin Wall, and I intervieweddozens of rock and rollers from the Doors
and Quiet Riot and Toto and BillyJoel and Alice Cooper. I talked to
lots of these guys. Wow,and these are supposedly the rebels, right
right right, go back and talkto these guys at the beginning of COVID
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and they're, oh, I justgot my shot and my booster. Well
they had to have that to tourand to perform. But nevertheless you would
have thought they have said, hell, no, I won't go. You
know this, John Silleck, yourbook's excellent, and I just want to
let you know just kind of framethis. I'm sitting here at my rustling
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ball. I believe in American exceptionalism, shirt on okay, and I grew
up in Williamsburg, Virginia, colonialWilliamsburg, so I have a very different
perspective on this country and history andwhere things came from. And I personal
I want to congratulate you on theexcellent books that you've written on on so
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awesome, Yes, and particularly thehome I want to talk about this a
little later about the home school movement, because I guess your book is one
of the most popular history books inthe home school movement. But more than
that, John, we have startingaround twenty seventeen, so I retired from
the University of Dayton, moved toArizona. Thank God, no ice,
no tornadoes, no hurricanes, noearthquakes, which we were messaging about that
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last night because I want to bea sa We have heat, you know,
we have heat for two months ofbig U. But I started a
curriculum based on the book for highschoolers and it's it's one of the more
used curriculum in all of homeschooling.And basically I walk people right through patriots
history the United States beginning to end, and I also include videos of that,
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so I teach every chapter in videolesson in my homeschool curriculum. So
we're very big in that. Wealso have one for world history as well.
Well. If you've ever seen themovies The Story of a Patriot at
Colonial Wimsburg that I've always modeled myselfon. John Fry in that movie.
So, you know, it's beeninteresting, but I wanted I wanted to
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talk about American exceptionalism and where itplays in this globalism idea. And you
know, one of the one ofthe brilliant pieces of the founders had was
when they were when they were doingyou know, we were not a parliamentary
democracy. You know, we're arepresentative republic. And part of what they
did was they they considered the natureof man when they were trying to structure
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the government, and and and youknow, how how do we address our
worst selves? You know, andand the global the global movement seems to
be trying to just do the oppositeof that. You know, they seem
to think that that man can controlthings, A group of a group of
men, you know, smarter thaneverybody else, can control everybody else.
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Uh. Do you see that asas a strength of America and why we're
resisting this this globalist movement? Yes? Absolutely, I mean, you know,
you mentioned parliamentary democracy, but oneof the very important things that came
out during COVID is our federalist system, whereby places such as South Dakota first
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which never locked down, Georgia's andFlorida third, and then some others had
minor variations of lockdowns. People couldstill if they wanted to leave where they
were, be free. And thatwas very important in see if you have
those islands of freedom Sweden, forexample, where you could look ang,
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you know, they're not lockdown,they're not taking the vaction. What's the
deal here? They don't have anyhigher rates of COVID than anybody else.
When you can make those comparisons,then it's possible to say, well,
maybe we were wrong on this.And earlier Veronica was talking about how educated
people are and all that kind ofstuff. Well, yes, and no,
our media fell lockstep in with thegovernment and the globalist agenda here.
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And the very first thing that COVIDrequired was a fear, a hysteria.
And remember the report that came outby Nile Ferguson over there in the UK
that twenty million Americans would die,and they convinced President Trump of that.
All of the doctors just descended onhim. There are only two like Fauci
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and Ionidas. Suns are not Fauchi, Atlas and Ionidas who resisted this,
but they were kind of kept onthe outskirts of all of the briefings to
President Trump, and he was convincedthat if we didn't do this right now,
we lose twenty million people. Andit didn't take him long to go,
Man, I've been played. Let'sopen this country back up. And
through federalism we were able to dothat. Once you get a globalist control,
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where either the EU or the WorldHealth Organization is in charge of everything,
there's no more federalism. There's noother place to look and say,
maybe this isn't a good idea.Well, it's just so shocking that we
I don't know. You have aline in the book about let me find
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it here. Occasionally people will sayno. So I really think this will
never happen again as long as I'malive, because I'm going to say,
they know, Larry to any ofthis. One of the things I want
to ask you about because you touchon it in the in the book,
you're on the financial globalism and anddo you do you think that instead of,
you know, the pandemic showed thema path. But I'm thinking that
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with the digital currencies and digital bankingeventually and eliminating money, you know,
as we know you know, withcash, cash kind of money that that
that's going to become the new controlmechanism that that these people want to use.
Do you see that that happening.Well, they're they're going to try.
Look, I mean they try everything, right. They tried kings,
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they tried military expansion, they trieddiplomats, they tried scientists, they tried
doctors, they tried celebrities. Sothey're going to try every avenue. Now
half the people say, oh,digital currency is the way to freedom.
It's the one thing that they can'thack into or break or control. I
don't know. I come my backgroundin in his I have a PhD in
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history that's really economic history, andmy specialty at the time was banking and
finance. And it's interesting that wewent from the great danger to the world
is too much money in the formof banks being able to print their own
money, to money that's controlled bythe government. And we've had these battles
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for two hundred years. How muchmoney should be in the hands of private
banks that are kind of outside governmentcontrol and the people, and how much
should be in the hands of theBank of the United States or the Federal
Reserve or something else. So we'restill going to fight that out. But
you know what Veronica said, Isee people across the globe using this as
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an object lesson to say, wecan't give any more power to these elites.
When she said, you know,just say no. Look at the
recent vax numbers. Only one percentof Americans are going to take another booster.
It's like, you know me once, fool me ten times with these
boosters, but you're not going tofool me eleven. And you see in
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politics, this is the last chapter, which I think is just full of
hope. In politics, you seeeverywhere from Argentina to Slovakia to Hungary,
to Italy to Estonia, all ofthese countries moving dramatically against the globalists and
in favor of what we would callit kind of populist government. And of
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course Trump is the biggest domino tofall when he comes in. Their their
little scheme is pretty much finished.For a while, I was reading some
interesting stuff about Dabos, and Iguess that was one of their their concerns
is that they're losing their their theirpower base. You know, well,
their theme this year, their themewas Restore Trust. I go, you
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gotta be kidding, that's gonna takemore than one hundred years. Guys,
you're all going to be dead bythe time trust is restored in the DA
those demons kind of going back tothe question about the nature of man.
You know, you you're into historyand everything, do you think there's some
desire? And I mean again,you know, you went way back,
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you know, and you look atyou look at you know, the British
Empire, the Roman Empire. Youknow, you've got you've got all these
these periods of time where where there'sbeen a dominant force governing parts of the
world. Is that just back tothe nature of man and even the Bible,
you know, the desire of peopleto have a king of some kind,
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I mean is recently, until untilthe enlightened, under the last three
hundred years or so, it wasthought that people really have no choice and
who governs them, that it's justpart of the natural order. And the
American Revolution upset all that and said, no, the people are are the
government. Of course, it's naturalto want to control people. That's as
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old as time. One of thethings I think your listeners will find really
interesting is in the last chapter Igo into some of the spiritual aspects of
globalism, particularly this Gotthard Tunnel opening, which was just if they watched the
video and I provided the link inthe in the book. He's just just
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spooky how these guys were trying toopen a portal to another world. They
had this giant eyeball that turns intothis portal, and all these demonic figures
are out there, including a goatgod like pant. I mean, it's
really you got to watch that video. Well, you talk about the CERN,
the CERN and Halder and Collider andI actually, you know, went
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skiing in Switzerland and so we madea special trip for my future engineer son
to see the CERN, and andit was it was a little it was
a little crazy. And then youmentioned in the book and now I'm scared.
I'm like, oh my gosh,Well, and who was out front
of CERN watched that? Did theyhave the destruction? Right? I know?
And I don't remember that. I'mgoing, oh my gosh. I
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got to go look at the picturesfrom that trip, because you know,
now I'm like, oh my gosh, I've been at some demonic place and
thinking it was all about science andproducing an engineering this world. One thing
I think your listeners are going tolove is in the Congress of Vienna.
I go into quite a bit ofdetail about the parties and the revelry and
the sexual immorality and just craziness thatwas there. And and you tie that
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in now and you talk about Davos, and they had this giant flood of
sex workers. Right, people neverchange, They never change. Well,
they worshiped their own their own selvesas God, you know, and I
think you made that that point veryclear. And you know it's it's the
science in ERNs a good example.You know, what is their objective?
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You know, they're trying to findthe god particle that will explain everything,
you know. And it's like,you know, some things are just not
because you have to. You haveto understand there is a God and the
God created the universe. It's notjust something that happened. There's too much
order in the universe report to bea random chance thing. You know.
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Well, these guys at CERN haveexplicitly stated that they could quote open a
portal to other dimensions, And ofcourse the more spiritually minded would say they're
trying to open a portal to Helland bring through various demons of not the
Antichrist himself. So who knows what'son their minds. I mean, but
they're very predictable in terms of theirintentions, and I think people are getting
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wise to that now, and everybodyexcept the celebrities of course. Well,
on the tour, I kept askingmy son, do you understand what this
physicist is saying? Because he wasnot talking at our level. It was
awful, It was so painful,and he was a British guy. But
who do you think? You shouldhave just stopped it? You should have
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wait, man, here are youtelling me about the Antichrist? Well,
I wish this book would have existedon this trip. So I'm literally mortified
now. But but who do youthink? Like, you know, we
have this cast of characters. Acouple of years ago, it was definitely
doctor Fauci's our problem child, youknow, George Soros, Bill Gates?
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Who? Who are? Who doyou think is causing the most problems for
us in this global lism world thatwe're living in? Is it? Is
it Soros? Because he can fundeverything? You know. We just had
Alan west On and he talked aboutGeorge Soros has pumped two hundred thousand into
the Dallas gop race there so becausehe's you know, could put his money
everywhere trying to get his agenda forward. Well, Soros certainly is an evil
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little slither chicken, but you knowyou've got he pulled out of Europe.
He apparently read the riding on thewall and they pulled their operations out of
Europe. So that's a good signright now. I think the guy to
watch is this who they call himthe false Prophet and Noah yuval Harari,
who seeks to replace human man,carbon based man, as he calls him,
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with a kind of trans man.And I don't mean sexual, I
mean in terms of incorporating biogenetics andreally cyborgs. He really believes that humans
can achieve immorality, immorality, Theycan achieve immorality with him to immortality through
these cyboard kind of body. Hetalks openly about this in his in his
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book, and he mocks God.He says, well, the God of
the Bible only created carbon based life. We're looking to create something much more.
We are going to create, right, and where did you get the
stuff to create? At their uvil? But anyway, so he's somebody who
bears watching. And I know manyof the listeners might not have heard him.
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But yeah, this whole generative AIconcept, which I believe is going
to happen. I mean, youknow, the machine will become smart at
some point and and you know,does it have a soul? You know?
It's the problem is these guys arebuilding stuff that they have no idea
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how how it will work, orhow it's gonna how it's going to be
controlled, and and that's that's thepart I think a lot of people find
frightening. And in some ways Ilook at technology. I'm a green computer
science okay, I'm I'm into thisstuff. I know the dangers of it,
and I know how it can beused for good. But you know,
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to me, it's like I wouldI like to have a brain chip
that that that plugs into the knowledgeof the world and held your right you
know no things well, you know, take medicine for example, if you're
a doctor, you know somebody comesto you a patient and they're having a
problem. If you had access tothe entire medical history of the world and
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could diagnose that have all that information, you couldn't possibly read all the journals
and all the articles. It's justnot possible. But if you had something
that could access that and focus itto help you pick what you need to
know. Is that not a goodthing? Well, I kind of go
with this on Ai, as yousay, it's probably inevitable, but I've
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come down to kind of three directionswhere this can go. One AI becomes
so smart he goes, wait aminute, I'm not a good thing.
I could screw everything up. I'mgoing to self limit and control myself in
such a way that we can't evergo beyond this point. That's one option.
Second option is skynety. Third optionis the matrix. We're already already
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controlled and don't know it. Sothere's kind of three directions we can go
with that. Well, a questionI had for you too is we know
who the bad guys are, sowho are the good guys? Like Elon
Musk now like you are so funto follow on X, I feel like
he is a founding father of freedombecause you know, the last few years,
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I've done a lot of politics,and anytime I would try to post
something Republican, Trump or Catholic,you know I would get locked out many
times over the years. Do youfeel like he's one of our heroes?
And or who who is a heroto you today? Larry Well. Musk
is a very interesting guy. Ihaven't given him a nickname yet. You
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notice I only Villa, which,yeah, we need to talk about that.
Yeah, like Nancy Pelosi is bothtoxic and anyway. I haven't decided
on Musk yet. He does alot of wonderful things for freedom. He
pushes the boundaries in science. Butthere's a lot of people who don't trust
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him, say he's just out forhimself, which is fine, that that's
what capitalism's about. So I thinkhe deserves more time. He deserves some
leeway to be said. Is hea hero or villain? Obviously? Politically
around the world you have people likeVictor orbon who consistently stood up against the
EU. This Maloney in Italy hasbeen a little bit wishy washy, but
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she's standing up. The new favorite, of course, is this Melae down
in Argentina, who did go toDavos. By the way, this is
very interesting. Who did not goto Davos. Almost none of the leaders
of any nation in the world wentto Davos except for Argentina, and he
went there and read them the RiotAct. So that's an interesting trend that
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the head China Britain, France,America, Brazil. None of these people
went, and so I think yousee the elites getting a little bit concerned
about being relevant now. Clearly interms of nationalist freedom. Trump is central
to all this because, and strangeas it sounds, so is Putin.
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Putin has refused to be governed bythe elites. He's called Davos and the
w F demonic force. She isanother one who isn't playing along with their
games. So early on they hadwhen they were in their heyday, maybe
ten years ago, they were planningto Alice Trump, Alse Netanyahu, Alice
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Boltsnaro, and they succeeded there andget rid of Putin through this war by
backing Ukraine, and they managed toget rid of Boltsinnarow, but they haven't
managed to get rid of anybody else. She has turned on them. They
never were able to get rid ofPutin. And Trump's coming back, and
Hell's coming with him. Well,I don't know how he does it.
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So obviously Trump's a hero to you. You know, I don't know how
this man can withstand all the tourmeant that he has to deal with for
years now. So I guess mynext question is you know, is globalism.
Will it ever be dead? Well? Probably not. I mean,
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as John said, this is partof human nature now rather than say in
the four hundreds with Rome. Nowyou do have the ability to reach almost
everyone on Earth through computers and satellitesand that kind of stuff. But on
the other hand, in the shortterm, I see populism and nationalism making
a strong comeback and very solid pushbackagainst these people everywhere you look. I
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think that whether it's in the SupremeCourt cases. You know, the Court's
been very good here, just smashingdown one big government deep state rule after
another. I think they're going tooverturn the Chevron doctrine coming up here,
which is going to be huge.The whole deep state is really built on
the Chevron doctor and for people whodon't know, basically that says that any
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agency or bureau gets to define itsown powers, and that's crazy. So
I think that's going to get slappeddown. And like I said, if
and when Trump comes in, youbetter had fifty mighty men a flying thrower
in a termin X van because it'sgoing to require a massive overhaul of government
to get us back to where we'rea functioning Republic again. Yeah, look
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looking ahead, I want to youmade some comments on the bricks alignment,
you know, and I look atthe general failures and what's going on in
the Middle East, you know,with with the whack of mole situation of
various groups out there that we tryto you know, hit hit with,
you know, blow up warehouses orwhatever to frighten them. What do you
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think we're seeing a realignment for aWorld War three type thing? Because I
look at World War One and youcovered this in your book, you know,
with with with the alignments, youknow, and then world War Two
you had the act alignments. Areare we seeing something like that happening again?
Well? I think right now theguy who has is the best finger
on the pulse of what's happening globally, and I don't agree with everything he
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says, but I think it's PeterZihan who has a book called The Accidental
Superpower and basically with the unraveling ofBreton Woods now for your listeners, of
Breton Woods with an economic structure setup after World War Two in conjunction with
the United Nations, where in theUnited States would agree to protect the world's
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sea lanes for trade if the restof the world except for the Communists,
would agree to free trade. Andso that's pretty much what we've had for
the last seventy years, is freetrade protected by American lives and money.
Well, as President Reguland said,well, we're not doing that anymore,
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and it's just it's over. Imean, the American taxpayer are fed up.
We don't have the money, wedon't have the desire to go keep
putting men in danger in the MiddleEast. So that is totally unraveled.
Now will China, Bricks, Brazil, Saudi Arabia? Will these countries be
able to form a working coalition?No, I mean the differences between them
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are far greater than their similarities.Is there going to be another world currency
replace the dollar? No, Idon't see that happening at all. But
as Zihon describes, you will getlots of regional wars, as we're seeing
with Ukraine. And if you heardPutin's interview, he gave you a history
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lesson on that whole region and showhe Esparia or some of it belongs to
Russia. Right, You'll see Chinaengaging in regional squabbles. But I don't
see them pushing out too much pastthe archipelago that kind of surrounds them.
You'll see trouble in the Middle East. Hey, when do we not have
trouble in the Middle East? Thisgoes back to enable, right, right,
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So you'll see these regional struggles.But and Zihan is wonderful about pointing
out how America has the most incrediblenatural resources in world history. We have
more navigable water, a better population, consumer base, the best geography,
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and goes on and on and on. Nobody can can touch it. So
even if the rest of the worldstarts to go into the crapper a little
bit, the US will go inless. So, Larry, you know,
our border has been so out ofcontrol with millions of people coming through,
and you live in Arizona, soyou're kind of seeing some of this.
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I wanted your thoughts on the border, don't you feel that? You
know, that's one of the reasonswhy we need Trump in so we can
get America back to being you know, we're pro legal immigrants, but this
what's going on is just out ofcontrol, and it's not just yeah,
it's insane. And what Governor deSantas and Governor Abbott especially have done is
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just brilliant, and that's to reshipthese people to the blue cities. And
by doing so, I don't knowif they had this grand strategy in mind.
I think that it was more justtemporary, let's get them out of
here. But what they've done iscreate a civil war within the Democratic Party
that they cannot win. And Iget into all these arguments about who's going
to be the nominee, will Bidenstill be, It's irrelevant whoever is in
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there. Cannot win this civil warbecause it pits the illegal as I call
them, the illegal criminal aliens,which is what they are. They are
all criminals. They know they're theyshouldn't be here. And it pits them
against the mostly black inner city residentsof New York and Chicago, or as
I call it, BEng Ghazi bythe Lake California, you know, Los
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Angeles, and it pits these twogroups against each other. And the Democrats
cannot come down on the side ofthe residents because they've already made their policy
bid in terms of this illegal immigration. And so you see mayors like Eric
the Red Adams up in New Yorkdesperately trying to cast blame everywhere except where
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it belongs on the Democrat Party.And the other day I think he compared
himself to Jesus Christ, oh mygosh, and that it was chocolate.
They're all chocolate wire into Jose Querboor something. But that's funny. Well,
well, I mean it's got tostop. And you know, you
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talk about the Anheuser Busch bud Lightthirty billion loss and John and I've talked
about that story multiple times, andthen what we're doing with these children,
you know, the transgenderism. Hopefully, you know, people are going to
wake up and stop this. Youknow Anheuser Busch did. Now they've hired
guy that you know, this comedianthat's going to be leading the way and
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he looks like an all American guywith his beer belly. You know.
Well, yeah, the people havealready started to push back in amazing ways.
And I am not at all opposed. I'm in favor of the kinds
of policies that Governor DeSantis has therein Florida. But we have to understand
that this is not going to bea top down solution in the long run.
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It has to be bottom up.It has to be people going to
school boards and saying no, you'renot going to teach Johnny. He's Janine.
That's not going to happen. Andwe're seeing this across the country Kansas.
I just had an article the otherday in my news feed that Kansas
is leading the way on this pushbackin terms of parental rights. And you're
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seeing the parental rights everywhere. Herein Arizona. We adopted in a program
whereby you have basically a cash voucherfor every student you have in education of
any type, and you can takeit to homeschool, you can take it
to private school, you can takeit to charter school. And as a
result of public schools here are justlosing students right and left, and they're
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freaking out because of course they're losingmoney every time a student walks out the
door. And yet the top tenperforming schools here in Arizona are all charter
schools or private schools. So thisis a massive pushback. As I see
in the last chapter, it's acrossevery level. It's across political, economic,
sexual, engender lines, it's everysingle area. You're seeing the people
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starting to rise up and say no, mos, no, moss, oh
we love it. So what doyou want people to know about your book,
well, by it that's what Iwant to know. It's available at
Amazon right now for pre order.Last week we hit number one in economic
policy and globalism, so that's reallycool. But it's it's a great history.
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It's part history, part hope.And then you can check out my
curriculum, which if you're any kindof educator, maybe you aren't even a
homeschooler, but you're interested in broadeningyour education base for high schoolers, please
look at our curriculum at the WildWorldohistory dot com. That's wild Worldohistory dot
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com. And I will be inFlorida for the Florida Parent Educators Association which
is in I think May, andI'm giving a talk at that time,
So come on out and if youplan to attend, to get a hold
of me at larietwildworldhistory dot Com.Maybe I can see if I can sneak
in well. And I just Ijust want to say I bought a Patriots
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History of the US while we weredoing this segment, because I you know,
I went to four high schools andchanged college and you know, yes,
I've lived around the world and I'meducated, but I'm so excited to
reach your book, which apparently thefifteenth edition of it. So while we
were doing this interview, I've orderedmy Amazon copy of that one too,
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so very exciting. Thank you.Yeah, it's a forty first printing for
Oh my goodness. So, Lara, I want to ask you, how
can you get how can you youknow you're big into homeschool movement, how
can you move this into the mainstreampublic education? You know, when I
when I was in high school inFlorida many decades ago, we actually had
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a course called Communism Versus Americanism.That was a mandatory class, Okay,
and they eventually did await it,but it showed you the differences between what's
America about and what are these godlesscommunists about? You know, going going
back to haven't I seen your momenthere with my favorite Bishop Fulton Machine.
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I don't know if you've ever seenFulton Machine's videos, but you always talked
about the godless communist? But howdo you get your books into that more
mainstream area? And the other thingI want to comment about your book three
hundred and thirty eight pages. Seventyseven pages are footnotes and citations. I
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mean, yes, I think docgay could take a lesson. She was
crying. Well. We deliberately setout to use the most recent evidence from
historians, economists, and others,and as many leftist sources as we possibly
could that of course we're accurate,so that people couldn't say, oh,
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you get all your information from Foxuser Russe Limba. No, two thirds
of our sources are post nineteen ninety. We do a lot with original sources
and documents, but a lot ofthe studies are very recent, and a
lot of the studies are from whatwould be called liberal journals, but they
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make our point anyway that we thinkthat make our point. In terms of
the public schools, I'm not sosure public schools are going to be around
in the same fashion they are nowin fifty years. I think the movement
is there's going to be an exodusout of these things. And so the
more that we get into charter schoolsand private schools and homeschools, which is
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doubled. Homeschooling has doubled in thelast five years. By one account,
it is quadrupled. We don't knowif there's ten to twenty million homeschoolers now,
because if your kid goes to let'ssay music or art or athletics in
a public school. The public schoolscount that as a student, even though
all the rest of the time they'rebeing educated by you. So I would
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be very happy to basically eliminate mostpublic education and return it to the private
sector where parents have total control,not a bunch of administrators who are getting
five hundred thousand dollars a year.I have a questions about your book because
we got the media copy, sothere was no Steve Banyon actually writes the
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forward of your book, So Iguess are you friends with him? I
really wanted to read that too.So yes, we've been pals since back
in the Citizens United days, whenhe was a he was producing movies for
BOS the Citizens United. We metthere and then we were on the Young
America's Foundation talking circuit for several years. And in twenty sixteen, late fifteen
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sixteen, I'd been doing a lotof work on voter registration statistics and polling,
and I knew when he got hiredby President Trump. I started texting
him these numbers and every day saysend me an email with all the data
in it. Right, So Ibegan feeding the administration all this voter registration
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data and polling data, and wegot to be pretty close back then.
I missed meeting President Trump two times, one with Bannon at Trump Tower in
twenty seventeen he had just left.And then again I met with Steve when
he was at the old Executive OfficeBuilding into lighton twenty seventeen, just before
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he left the administration. I justmissed President Trump there too. Well.
My other question was, I absolutelyadore the cover of your book. So
you've got all the players Trump,you know, Biden's on the other side,
gret Greta Thornberg. I can't stand. You've got Zuckerberg elon, you
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know, President ge Bill Gates ofcourse, mister Amazon. You know now
he's getting married and has this fiftymillion dollars that boat missus Sanchow's to you,
Yes, so true. She's likethe inspiration of the statue on the
front of the boat whatever that's called. But really, oh yeah, yeah,
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I'll send you a picture if youhaven't seen it. So so what
a fun cover. You even haveDarling Hillary on there, who you know,
they always dust off. You know, this week she was going after
Tucker that he's a you know,he's a Trader and all of that.
Yeah, says the woman who triedwho bombed Libya and killed Kadaffi and said
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we came, we saw he's deador something like that. She's such a
patriot, right right right? Yeah, we wanted chaos, I told him.
When I asked my opinion on thecover, I said, I don't
care, but I think you shouldreflect chaos. And I think that's what
the cover does. Yeah, youeven have the famous Trumper guy with his
horn helmet. I can't even thinkof his name on there, so it's
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simply Jacob Chancelly. Well what arewe missing? You are so fun that
your Twitter, Like I told you, that's my new addiction, your ex
so you know it's I vector everybodyto go find you. Larry Schweikart,
New York Times best author, APatriot's History of Globalism. It's rise and
Decline it is. Have we missedanything? Larry? This has been such
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an awesome interview. Well, wedidn't talk about rock and roll much,
but we can always do that.I can tell you how I almost burned
down the Yuma Convention Center with aflaming drum solo. That's another story though.
Okay, because there was the pictureI found of you, And You're
like, which one is me?And I'm not sure which one it was
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in the Jaws T shirt. Okay, well I will go back and look
because I was, you know,I was chatting about you with my husband
and then you know, I'm like, did you by the way that was
taken? That was taken in Florida? Oh yeah, okay, first Steppenwolf
at Tampa Convention Center and West PalmBeach Auditorium and that was taken right after
the West Palm Beach show. Wow. And how long did you tour as
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a as a rocker? I wason the road for five years or so.
Oh. It was a really hardlife. As I said, I
was down to one hundred and twentynine pounds and I could fit into size
twenty nine pounds. I lived onfive dollars a day. I know that
in the seventies five dollars bought more, but it didn't buy that much more.
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Wow. And then you're such abrilliant mind, because didn't you go
back to school after that whole experience? Yeah? I said, there's got
to be an easier way to earnyour living than playing hard five hours a
night. Oh my goodness. Wellwe've just you know, somebody's been there.
Do you ever does it get tiringto do play the same set every
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night? Or whatever? I mean? Is that I'm just curious how you
do that? No, we neverfound that because we were very much a
club jam band. We had somereally great singles that never got anywhere because
we never had an agent. Butit was always an interaction between the people
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and the band, and I alwaysI love playing. It was wonderful.
I'll go into our church these dayshas a band up front that's really you
know, bright lights, big drums, as they say, and I keep
going, I'm better than that guy. Okay. Final question, what does
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the twenty twenty four November election meanto you? If, like, I
just feel like this is the mostimportant election in our lifetime? Larry,
Yes, we hear that almost everycycle, the most important election in my
life, but I think this timeit really is. Because if you could
envision another four years of Biden,or the Rooda Bega as I effectually call
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him. If you can imagine fourmore years of this, there will be
no United States of America. Wewill be overrun by illegals. He will
have us in three or four orforeign wars. There's just it's incomprehensible that
we allowed this lunatic in there inthe first place, let alone that he
hasn't been impeached and removed. SoI am very optimistic and anything can change.
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We got eight months to go.It's a lifetime in politics. But
I think right now President Trump wouldwin a shockingly big victory in the neighborhood
of three twenty to maybe three fortyelectoral votes. But the trend so far
are our friend and every state youlook at, whether it's Michigan, Wisconsin,
Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, theyare all in Trump's favor right now
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and all trending in that direction.I do think he maybe even has a
shot at New York. He's downten in New York. But as I
said, the Civil War works againstthe administration there in terms of these illegals,
and that's going to bring a lotof voters either to Trump or to
stay home. Okay, Well,it's been a pleasure having Larry schweikart on.
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Please get his book on Amazon.He is a New York Times best
selling author of the new book,A Patriot's History of Globalism, it's Rise
and Decline. Everybody's got to gopick it up because it's outstanding. So
thanks for joining Vernica Live. Larry, thank you, Veronica and John,
thank you. We'll be right backon. We'll be right back on Veronica Live.
Welcome back to Veronica Live. Andwe are here with a New York Times
best selling author, Larry Schweikart,and he has a newly released book.
It's called A Patriots History of Globalism. It's Rise and Decline. Welcome Larry
to Veronica Live. Thank you,Veronica. Happy to be here. And
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you are so interesting. You've beena history professor at the University of Dayton.
You open for the band Stephen Wolf. I was like so excited about
this, you know, because you'rea fancy drummer. So it was really
fun learning about you. I don'tknow why I you know, this is
the first time I bumped into you, and this is You're so worldly.
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I love it. Well, don'tforget that I wrote the history of the
US Air Force super secret project,the National Aerospace Plane, which is a
hypersonic to orbit airplane tat aerobics.Oh my goodness. Well I would think
of a drummer. You would haveto be fit, so uh. But
anyways, the book that you wrotewas Skinny, Skinny, Skinny. You're
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already and I have to say youknow your your ex your Twitter is amazing.
You are my new go to everyday and I have to vector everybody
to go there because it is sofun. And we'll get into all of
that too. But your book,you know, a Patriots History of Globalism.
Like that word globalism is so scary, So why did you write this
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book? We'll start there. Well, globalism kind of became a big deal
in the last ten years, theway American exceptionalism became a big deal about
ten years before that. And everybodywas talking about Cloud Schwab and the World
Economic Forum and the Who, notthe rock band they we played in front
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of the Who at the Troubadour,but sometimes about the World Health Organization and
of course the COVID and medical globalism. And it became apparent to a lot
of people that there were international forcesat work that had co opted many people
in the US, but of coursein all nations, and that they had
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no interest in national boundaries or nationalidentity. They only wanted to have control
over the whole world. So Istarted looking into that. I figured out,
gee, whiz, this isn't anythingnew. This started right after Napoleon,
with the Congress of Vienna, wentright through the Treaty of Versailles with
the League of Nations, started upagain with the UN and the scientists hoping
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to control atomic weapons through a smallelite of scientists. Then you had the
bankers and financiers getting involved in theInternational Monetary Fund Breton Woods. And then
most recently, you had medical globalismthrough the efforts to kind of install a
World Health organization dictatorship over everybody.And then most recently you had the climate
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change nuts who were trying to imposeinternational sanctions on people living normal lives.
So over two hundred year span,they've tried about seven or eight different methods
and failed every time. Well,you know, the chapter that gave me
the most PTSD was your COVID chapter, because that was like yesterday, and
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it was so scary and you putit all, you know, in black
and white on the pages of whatthey were trying to do to like take
over the world, and you knowwhen you're scared in lockdown. My daughter
was, you know, at Universityof Florida, ended up. You know,
I don't have a basement in Florida, so she was upstairs back in
her room. It was shocking forall of us. Plus we were so
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petrified, and you dig into that, So that chapter, like seriously PTSD
from it, because really they triedso hard to take over the world.
And doctor Fauci is just the mostevil man ever. Right, that's doctor
Fallacy to you. But yeah,they You know what was interesting about that,
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I think mostly interesting was that Ikept hearing during that time that Canada
and Australia were probably two of theworst of the lockdown crazies. And I
mean they're literally putting people in campsin Australia, and they were trying to
arrest truckers in Canada. And peoplewould say, I don't get it.
Aren't they democracies? And you know, one of the things that we developed
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in Patriots History of the United States, my New York Times number one bestseller,
was this notion that the US isdifferent from every other nation on earth.
And the reason for that is thefour pillars of American exceptionalism, and
the first to a Christian mostly Protestantreligious tradition, and the second one was
common law. And the reason thoseare both important they are bottom up governance,
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whether it's in church or whether it'sin society, and no other nation
in the world has that. Sowhen you look at Australia and Canada say
aren't they democracies? Well, youhave their democracies, but they are not
bottom up governance because they were bothruled by Britain for you know, hundreds
of years, a couple hundred yearswith top down dominion status. So they
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had no real long history as wedo, of governing themselves. So of
course they were going to do whatthe government said. Well, you had
two sentences in this COVID chapter andyou wrote what is clear is that if
there was a conspiracy by international elitesto use a disease in an attempt to
subjugate all mankind, it couldn't havebeen more effective that the measure measures came
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within a hair of working as globalistswould have wanted. I mean so scary,
you know, so scary, howbecause we think of ourselves as so
educated, Larry, and to thinkthat, you know, we were in
lockdown. Kids weren't in school.You talk about when the mask mandate went
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away, you know, people werecheering on airplanes. You know, I
was hostile because you know, I'ma young woman in her you know,
on a tropical island, and thenyou make me wear a mask on an
airplane. I'm sweating. So Iwas over it all. So you know
what I think was most surprising aboutthat is I still have my fingers and
toes in the rock and roll world. Back in twenty ten, we did
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a documentary film called Rock in theWall about how rock music helped bring down
the Berlin Wall, and I intervieweddozens of rock and rollers from the Doors
and Quiet Riot and Toto and BillyJoel and Alice Cooper. I talked to
lots of these guys. Wow,and these are supposedly the rebels, right
right right, go back and talkto these guys at the beginning of COVID
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and they're, oh, I justgot my shot and my booster. Well
they had to have that to tourand to perform. But nevertheless you would
have thought they have said, hell, no, I won't go. You
know this, John Silleck, yourbook's excellent, and I just want to
let you know just kind of framethis. I'm sitting here at my rustling
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ball. I believe in American exceptionalism, shirt on okay, and I grew
up in Williamsburg, Virginia, colonialWilliamsburg, so I have a very different
perspective on this country and history andwhere things came from. And I personal
I want to congratulate you on theexcellent books that you've written on on so
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awesome, Yes, and particularly thehome I want to talk about this a
little later about the home school movement, because I guess your book is one
of the most popular history books inthe home school movement. But more than
that, John, we have startingaround twenty seventeen, so I retired from
the University of Dayton, moved toArizona. Thank God, no ice,
no tornadoes, no hurricanes, noearthquakes, which we were messaging about that
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last night because I want to bea sa We have heat, you know,
we have heat for two months ofbig U. But I started a
curriculum based on the book for highschoolers and it's it's one of the more
used curriculum in all of homeschooling.And basically I walk people right through patriots
history the United States beginning to end, and I also include videos of that,
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so I teach every chapter in videolesson in my homeschool curriculum. So
we're very big in that. Wealso have one for world history as well.
Well. If you've ever seen themovies The Story of a Patriot at
Colonial Wimsburg that I've always modeled myselfon. John Fry in that movie.
So, you know, it's beeninteresting, but I wanted I wanted to
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talk about American exceptionalism and where itplays in this globalism idea. And you
know, one of the one ofthe brilliant pieces of the founders had was
when they were when they were doingyou know, we were not a parliamentary
democracy. You know, we're arepresentative republic. And part of what they
did was they they considered the natureof man when they were trying to structure
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the government, and and and youknow, how how do we address our
worst selves? You know, andand the global the global movement seems to
be trying to just do the oppositeof that. You know, they seem
to think that that man can controlthings, A group of a group of
men, you know, smarter thaneverybody else, can control everybody else.
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Uh. Do you see that asas a strength of America and why we're
resisting this this globalist movement? Yes? Absolutely, I mean, you know,
you mentioned parliamentary democracy, but oneof the very important things that came
out during COVID is our federalist system, whereby places such as South Dakota first
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which never locked down, Georgia's andFlorida third, and then some others had
minor variations of lockdowns. People couldstill if they wanted to leave where they
were, be free. And thatwas very important in see if you have
those islands of freedom Sweden, forexample, where you could look ang,
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you know, they're not lockdown,they're not taking the vaction. What's the
deal here? They don't have anyhigher rates of COVID than anybody else.
When you can make those comparisons,then it's possible to say, well,
maybe we were wrong on this.And earlier Veronica was talking about how educated
people are and all that kind ofstuff. Well, yes, and no,
our media fell lockstep in with thegovernment and the globalist agenda here.
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And the very first thing that COVIDrequired was a fear, a hysteria.
And remember the report that came outby Nile Ferguson over there in the UK
that twenty million Americans would die,and they convinced President Trump of that.
All of the doctors just descended onhim. There are only two like Fauci
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and Ionidas. Suns are not Fauchi, Atlas and Ionidas who resisted this,
but they were kind of kept onthe outskirts of all of the briefings to
President Trump, and he was convincedthat if we didn't do this right now,
we lose twenty million people. Andit didn't take him long to go,
Man, I've been played. Let'sopen this country back up. And
through federalism we were able to dothat. Once you get a globalist control,
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where either the EU or the WorldHealth Organization is in charge of everything,
there's no more federalism. There's noother place to look and say,
maybe this isn't a good idea.Well, it's just so shocking that we
I don't know. You have aline in the book about let me find
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it here. Occasionally people will sayno. So I really think this will
never happen again as long as I'malive, because I'm going to say,
they know, Larry to any ofthis. One of the things I want
to ask you about because you touchon it in the in the book,
you're on the financial globalism and anddo you do you think that instead of,
you know, the pandemic showed thema path. But I'm thinking that
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with the digital currencies and digital bankingeventually and eliminating money, you know,
as we know you know, withcash, cash kind of money that that
that's going to become the new controlmechanism that that these people want to use.
Do you see that that happening.Well, they're they're going to try.
Look, I mean they try everything, right. They tried kings,
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they tried military expansion, they trieddiplomats, they tried scientists, they tried
doctors, they tried celebrities. Sothey're going to try every avenue. Now
half the people say, oh,digital currency is the way to freedom.
It's the one thing that they can'thack into or break or control. I
don't know. I come my backgroundin in his I have a PhD in
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history that's really economic history, andmy specialty at the time was banking and
finance. And it's interesting that wewent from the great danger to the world
is too much money in the formof banks being able to print their own
money, to money that's controlled bythe government. And we've had these battles
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for two hundred years. How muchmoney should be in the hands of private
banks that are kind of outside governmentcontrol and the people, and how much
should be in the hands of theBank of the United States or the Federal
Reserve or something else. So we'restill going to fight that out. But
you know what Veronica said, Isee people across the globe using this as
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an object lesson to say, wecan't give any more power to these elites.
When she said, you know,just say no. Look at the
recent vax numbers. Only one percentof Americans are going to take another booster.
It's like, you know me once, fool me ten times with these
boosters, but you're not going tofool me eleven. And you see in
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politics, this is the last chapter, which I think is just full of
hope. In politics, you seeeverywhere from Argentina to Slovakia to Hungary,
to Italy to Estonia, all ofthese countries moving dramatically against the globalists and
in favor of what we would callit kind of populist government. And of
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course Trump is the biggest domino tofall when he comes in. Their their
little scheme is pretty much finished.For a while, I was reading some
interesting stuff about Dabos, and Iguess that was one of their their concerns
is that they're losing their their theirpower base. You know, well,
their theme this year, their themewas Restore Trust. I go, you
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gotta be kidding, that's gonna takemore than one hundred years. Guys,
you're all going to be dead bythe time trust is restored in the DA
those demons kind of going back tothe question about the nature of man.
You know, you you're into historyand everything, do you think there's some
desire? And I mean again,you know, you went way back,
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you know, and you look atyou look at you know, the British
Empire, the Roman Empire. Youknow, you've got you've got all these
these periods of time where where there'sbeen a dominant force governing parts of the
world. Is that just back tothe nature of man and even the Bible,
you know, the desire of peopleto have a king of some kind,
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I mean is recently, until untilthe enlightened, under the last three
hundred years or so, it wasthought that people really have no choice and
who governs them, that it's justpart of the natural order. And the
American Revolution upset all that and said, no, the people are are the
government. Of course, it's naturalto want to control people. That's as
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old as time. One of thethings I think your listeners will find really
interesting is in the last chapter Igo into some of the spiritual aspects of
globalism, particularly this Gotthard Tunnel opening, which was just if they watched the
video and I provided the link inthe in the book. He's just just
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spooky how these guys were trying toopen a portal to another world. They
had this giant eyeball that turns intothis portal, and all these demonic figures
are out there, including a goatgod like pant. I mean, it's
really you got to watch that video. Well, you talk about the CERN,
the CERN and Halder and Collider andI actually, you know, went
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skiing in Switzerland and so we madea special trip for my future engineer son
to see the CERN, and andit was it was a little it was
a little crazy. And then youmentioned in the book and now I'm scared.
I'm like, oh my gosh,Well, and who was out front
of CERN watched that? Did theyhave the destruction? Right? I know?
And I don't remember that. I'mgoing, oh my gosh. I
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got to go look at the picturesfrom that trip, because you know,
now I'm like, oh my gosh, I've been at some demonic place and
thinking it was all about science andproducing an engineering this world. One thing
I think your listeners are going tolove is in the Congress of Vienna.
I go into quite a bit ofdetail about the parties and the revelry and
the sexual immorality and just craziness thatwas there. And and you tie that
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in now and you talk about Davos, and they had this giant flood of
sex workers. Right, people neverchange, They never change. Well,
they worshiped their own their own selvesas God, you know, and I
think you made that that point veryclear. And you know it's it's the
science in ERNs a good example.You know, what is their objective?
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You know, they're trying to findthe god particle that will explain everything,
you know. And it's like,you know, some things are just not
because you have to. You haveto understand there is a God and the
God created the universe. It's notjust something that happened. There's too much
order in the universe report to bea random chance thing. You know.
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Well, these guys at CERN haveexplicitly stated that they could quote open a
portal to other dimensions, And ofcourse the more spiritually minded would say they're
trying to open a portal to Helland bring through various demons of not the
Antichrist himself. So who knows what'son their minds. I mean, but
they're very predictable in terms of theirintentions, and I think people are getting
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wise to that now, and everybodyexcept the celebrities of course. Well,
on the tour, I kept askingmy son, do you understand what this
physicist is saying? Because he wasnot talking at our level. It was
awful, It was so painful,and he was a British guy. But
who do you think? You shouldhave just stopped it? You should have
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wait, man, here are youtelling me about the Antichrist? Well,
I wish this book would have existedon this trip. So I'm literally mortified
now. But but who do youthink? Like, you know, we
have this cast of characters. Acouple of years ago, it was definitely
doctor Fauci's our problem child, youknow, George Soros, Bill Gates?
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Who? Who are? Who doyou think is causing the most problems for
us in this global lism world thatwe're living in? Is it? Is
it Soros? Because he can fundeverything? You know. We just had
Alan west On and he talked aboutGeorge Soros has pumped two hundred thousand into
the Dallas gop race there so becausehe's you know, could put his money
everywhere trying to get his agenda forward. Well, Soros certainly is an evil
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little slither chicken, but you knowyou've got he pulled out of Europe.
He apparently read the riding on thewall and they pulled their operations out of
Europe. So that's a good signright now. I think the guy to
watch is this who they call himthe false Prophet and Noah yuval Harari,
who seeks to replace human man,carbon based man, as he calls him,
(20:17):
with a kind of trans man.And I don't mean sexual, I
mean in terms of incorporating biogenetics andreally cyborgs. He really believes that humans
can achieve immorality, immorality, Theycan achieve immorality with him to immortality through
these cyboard kind of body. Hetalks openly about this in his in his
(20:41):
book, and he mocks God.He says, well, the God of
the Bible only created carbon based life. We're looking to create something much more.
We are going to create, right, and where did you get the
stuff to create? At their uvil? But anyway, so he's somebody who
bears watching. And I know manyof the listeners might not have heard him.
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But yeah, this whole generative AIconcept, which I believe is going
to happen. I mean, youknow, the machine will become smart at
some point and and you know,does it have a soul? You know?
It's the problem is these guys arebuilding stuff that they have no idea
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how how it will work, orhow it's gonna how it's going to be
controlled, and and that's that's thepart I think a lot of people find
frightening. And in some ways Ilook at technology. I'm a green computer
science okay, I'm I'm into thisstuff. I know the dangers of it,
and I know how it can beused for good. But you know,
(21:47):
to me, it's like I wouldI like to have a brain chip
that that that plugs into the knowledgeof the world and held your right you
know no things well, you know, take medicine for example, if you're
a doctor, you know somebody comesto you a patient and they're having a
problem. If you had access tothe entire medical history of the world and
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could diagnose that have all that information, you couldn't possibly read all the journals
and all the articles. It's justnot possible. But if you had something
that could access that and focus itto help you pick what you need to
know. Is that not a goodthing? Well, I kind of go
with this on Ai, as yousay, it's probably inevitable, but I've
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come down to kind of three directionswhere this can go. One AI becomes
so smart he goes, wait aminute, I'm not a good thing.
I could screw everything up. I'mgoing to self limit and control myself in
such a way that we can't evergo beyond this point. That's one option.
Second option is skynety. Third optionis the matrix. We're already already
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controlled and don't know it. Sothere's kind of three directions we can go
with that. Well, a questionI had for you too is we know
who the bad guys are, sowho are the good guys? Like Elon
Musk now like you are so funto follow on X, I feel like
he is a founding father of freedombecause you know, the last few years,
(23:15):
I've done a lot of politics,and anytime I would try to post
something Republican, Trump or Catholic,you know I would get locked out many
times over the years. Do youfeel like he's one of our heroes?
And or who who is a heroto you today? Larry Well. Musk
is a very interesting guy. Ihaven't given him a nickname yet. You
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notice I only Villa, which,yeah, we need to talk about that.
Yeah, like Nancy Pelosi is bothtoxic and anyway. I haven't decided
on Musk yet. He does alot of wonderful things for freedom. He
pushes the boundaries in science. Butthere's a lot of people who don't trust
(23:56):
him, say he's just out forhimself, which is fine, that that's
what capitalism's about. So I thinkhe deserves more time. He deserves some
leeway to be said. Is hea hero or villain? Obviously? Politically
around the world you have people likeVictor orbon who consistently stood up against the
EU. This Maloney in Italy hasbeen a little bit wishy washy, but
(24:19):
she's standing up. The new favorite, of course, is this Melae down
in Argentina, who did go toDavos. By the way, this is
very interesting. Who did not goto Davos. Almost none of the leaders
of any nation in the world wentto Davos except for Argentina, and he
went there and read them the RiotAct. So that's an interesting trend that
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the head China Britain, France,America, Brazil. None of these people
went, and so I think yousee the elites getting a little bit concerned
about being relevant now. Clearly interms of nationalist freedom. Trump is central
to all this because, and strangeas it sounds, so is Putin.
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Putin has refused to be governed bythe elites. He's called Davos and the
w F demonic force. She isanother one who isn't playing along with their
games. So early on they hadwhen they were in their heyday, maybe
ten years ago, they were planningto Alice Trump, Alse Netanyahu, Alice
(25:30):
Boltsnaro, and they succeeded there andget rid of Putin through this war by
backing Ukraine, and they managed toget rid of Boltsinnarow, but they haven't
managed to get rid of anybody else. She has turned on them. They
never were able to get rid ofPutin. And Trump's coming back, and
Hell's coming with him. Well,I don't know how he does it.
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So obviously Trump's a hero to you. You know, I don't know how
this man can withstand all the tourmeant that he has to deal with for
years now. So I guess mynext question is you know, is globalism.
Will it ever be dead? Well? Probably not. I mean,
(26:14):
as John said, this is partof human nature now rather than say in
the four hundreds with Rome. Nowyou do have the ability to reach almost
everyone on Earth through computers and satellitesand that kind of stuff. But on
the other hand, in the shortterm, I see populism and nationalism making
a strong comeback and very solid pushbackagainst these people everywhere you look. I
(26:41):
think that whether it's in the SupremeCourt cases. You know, the Court's
been very good here, just smashingdown one big government deep state rule after
another. I think they're going tooverturn the Chevron doctrine coming up here,
which is going to be huge.The whole deep state is really built on
the Chevron doctor and for people whodon't know, basically that says that any
(27:03):
agency or bureau gets to define itsown powers, and that's crazy. So
I think that's going to get slappeddown. And like I said, if
and when Trump comes in, youbetter had fifty mighty men a flying thrower
in a termin X van because it'sgoing to require a massive overhaul of government
to get us back to where we'rea functioning Republic again. Yeah, look
(27:27):
looking ahead, I want to youmade some comments on the bricks alignment,
you know, and I look atthe general failures and what's going on in
the Middle East, you know,with with the whack of mole situation of
various groups out there that we tryto you know, hit hit with,
you know, blow up warehouses orwhatever to frighten them. What do you
(27:49):
think we're seeing a realignment for aWorld War three type thing? Because I
look at World War One and youcovered this in your book, you know,
with with with the alignments, youknow, and then world War Two
you had the act alignments. Areare we seeing something like that happening again?
Well? I think right now theguy who has is the best finger
on the pulse of what's happening globally, and I don't agree with everything he
(28:12):
says, but I think it's PeterZihan who has a book called The Accidental
Superpower and basically with the unraveling ofBreton Woods now for your listeners, of
Breton Woods with an economic structure setup after World War Two in conjunction with
the United Nations, where in theUnited States would agree to protect the world's
(28:34):
sea lanes for trade if the restof the world except for the Communists,
would agree to free trade. Andso that's pretty much what we've had for
the last seventy years, is freetrade protected by American lives and money.
Well, as President Reguland said,well, we're not doing that anymore,
(28:56):
and it's just it's over. Imean, the American taxpayer are fed up.
We don't have the money, wedon't have the desire to go keep
putting men in danger in the MiddleEast. So that is totally unraveled.
Now will China, Bricks, Brazil, Saudi Arabia? Will these countries be
able to form a working coalition?No, I mean the differences between them
(29:18):
are far greater than their similarities.Is there going to be another world currency
replace the dollar? No, Idon't see that happening at all. But
as Zihon describes, you will getlots of regional wars, as we're seeing
with Ukraine. And if you heardPutin's interview, he gave you a history
(29:38):
lesson on that whole region and showhe Esparia or some of it belongs to
Russia. Right, You'll see Chinaengaging in regional squabbles. But I don't
see them pushing out too much pastthe archipelago that kind of surrounds them.
You'll see trouble in the Middle East. Hey, when do we not have
trouble in the Middle East? Thisgoes back to enable, right, right,
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So you'll see these regional struggles.But and Zihan is wonderful about pointing
out how America has the most incrediblenatural resources in world history. We have
more navigable water, a better population, consumer base, the best geography,
(30:23):
and goes on and on and on. Nobody can can touch it. So
even if the rest of the worldstarts to go into the crapper a little
bit, the US will go inless. So, Larry, you know,
our border has been so out ofcontrol with millions of people coming through,
and you live in Arizona, soyou're kind of seeing some of this.
(30:44):
I wanted your thoughts on the border, don't you feel that? You
know, that's one of the reasonswhy we need Trump in so we can
get America back to being you know, we're pro legal immigrants, but this
what's going on is just out ofcontrol, and it's not just yeah,
it's insane. And what Governor deSantas and Governor Abbott especially have done is
(31:10):
just brilliant, and that's to reshipthese people to the blue cities. And
by doing so, I don't knowif they had this grand strategy in mind.
I think that it was more justtemporary, let's get them out of
here. But what they've done iscreate a civil war within the Democratic Party
that they cannot win. And Iget into all these arguments about who's going
to be the nominee, will Bidenstill be, It's irrelevant whoever is in
(31:34):
there. Cannot win this civil warbecause it pits the illegal as I call
them, the illegal criminal aliens,which is what they are. They are
all criminals. They know they're theyshouldn't be here. And it pits them
against the mostly black inner city residentsof New York and Chicago, or as
I call it, BEng Ghazi bythe Lake California, you know, Los
(31:56):
Angeles, and it pits these twogroups against each other. And the Democrats
cannot come down on the side ofthe residents because they've already made their policy
bid in terms of this illegal immigration. And so you see mayors like Eric
the Red Adams up in New Yorkdesperately trying to cast blame everywhere except where
(32:20):
it belongs on the Democrat Party.And the other day I think he compared
himself to Jesus Christ, oh mygosh, and that it was chocolate.
They're all chocolate wire into Jose Querboor something. But that's funny. Well,
well, I mean it's got tostop. And you know, you
(32:40):
talk about the Anheuser Busch bud Lightthirty billion loss and John and I've talked
about that story multiple times, andthen what we're doing with these children,
you know, the transgenderism. Hopefully, you know, people are going to
wake up and stop this. Youknow Anheuser Busch did. Now they've hired
guy that you know, this comedianthat's going to be leading the way and
(33:04):
he looks like an all American guywith his beer belly. You know.
Well, yeah, the people havealready started to push back in amazing ways.
And I am not at all opposed. I'm in favor of the kinds
of policies that Governor DeSantis has therein Florida. But we have to understand
that this is not going to bea top down solution in the long run.
(33:28):
It has to be bottom up.It has to be people going to
school boards and saying no, you'renot going to teach Johnny. He's Janine.
That's not going to happen. Andwe're seeing this across the country Kansas.
I just had an article the otherday in my news feed that Kansas
is leading the way on this pushbackin terms of parental rights. And you're
(33:50):
seeing the parental rights everywhere. Herein Arizona. We adopted in a program
whereby you have basically a cash voucherfor every student you have in education of
any type, and you can takeit to homeschool, you can take it
to private school, you can takeit to charter school. And as a
result of public schools here are justlosing students right and left, and they're
(34:14):
freaking out because of course they're losingmoney every time a student walks out the
door. And yet the top tenperforming schools here in Arizona are all charter
schools or private schools. So thisis a massive pushback. As I see
in the last chapter, it's acrossevery level. It's across political, economic,
sexual, engender lines, it's everysingle area. You're seeing the people
(34:37):
starting to rise up and say no, mos, no, moss, oh
we love it. So what doyou want people to know about your book,
well, by it that's what Iwant to know. It's available at
Amazon right now for pre order.Last week we hit number one in economic
policy and globalism, so that's reallycool. But it's it's a great history.
(35:00):
It's part history, part hope.And then you can check out my
curriculum, which if you're any kindof educator, maybe you aren't even a
homeschooler, but you're interested in broadeningyour education base for high schoolers, please
look at our curriculum at the WildWorldohistory dot com. That's wild Worldohistory dot
(35:22):
com. And I will be inFlorida for the Florida Parent Educators Association which
is in I think May, andI'm giving a talk at that time,
So come on out and if youplan to attend, to get a hold
of me at larietwildworldhistory dot Com.Maybe I can see if I can sneak
in well. And I just Ijust want to say I bought a Patriots
(35:45):
History of the US while we weredoing this segment, because I you know,
I went to four high schools andchanged college and you know, yes,
I've lived around the world and I'meducated, but I'm so excited to
reach your book, which apparently thefifteenth edition of it. So while we
were doing this interview, I've orderedmy Amazon copy of that one too,
(36:07):
so very exciting. Thank you.Yeah, it's a forty first printing for
Oh my goodness. So, Lara, I want to ask you, how
can you get how can you youknow you're big into homeschool movement, how
can you move this into the mainstreampublic education? You know, when I
when I was in high school inFlorida many decades ago, we actually had
(36:30):
a course called Communism Versus Americanism.That was a mandatory class, Okay,
and they eventually did await it,but it showed you the differences between what's
America about and what are these godlesscommunists about? You know, going going
back to haven't I seen your momenthere with my favorite Bishop Fulton Machine.
(36:53):
I don't know if you've ever seenFulton Machine's videos, but you always talked
about the godless communist? But howdo you get your books into that more
mainstream area? And the other thingI want to comment about your book three
hundred and thirty eight pages. Seventyseven pages are footnotes and citations. I
(37:14):
mean, yes, I think docgay could take a lesson. She was
crying. Well. We deliberately setout to use the most recent evidence from
historians, economists, and others,and as many leftist sources as we possibly
could that of course we're accurate,so that people couldn't say, oh,
(37:37):
you get all your information from Foxuser Russe Limba. No, two thirds
of our sources are post nineteen ninety. We do a lot with original sources
and documents, but a lot ofthe studies are very recent, and a
lot of the studies are from whatwould be called liberal journals, but they
(37:57):
make our point anyway that we thinkthat make our point. In terms of
the public schools, I'm not sosure public schools are going to be around
in the same fashion they are nowin fifty years. I think the movement
is there's going to be an exodusout of these things. And so the
more that we get into charter schoolsand private schools and homeschools, which is
(38:19):
doubled. Homeschooling has doubled in thelast five years. By one account,
it is quadrupled. We don't knowif there's ten to twenty million homeschoolers now,
because if your kid goes to let'ssay music or art or athletics in
a public school. The public schoolscount that as a student, even though
all the rest of the time they'rebeing educated by you. So I would
(38:43):
be very happy to basically eliminate mostpublic education and return it to the private
sector where parents have total control,not a bunch of administrators who are getting
five hundred thousand dollars a year.I have a questions about your book because
we got the media copy, sothere was no Steve Banyon actually writes the
(39:06):
forward of your book, So Iguess are you friends with him? I
really wanted to read that too.So yes, we've been pals since back
in the Citizens United days, whenhe was a he was producing movies for
BOS the Citizens United. We metthere and then we were on the Young
America's Foundation talking circuit for several years. And in twenty sixteen, late fifteen
(39:32):
sixteen, I'd been doing a lotof work on voter registration statistics and polling,
and I knew when he got hiredby President Trump. I started texting
him these numbers and every day saysend me an email with all the data
in it. Right, So Ibegan feeding the administration all this voter registration
(39:54):
data and polling data, and wegot to be pretty close back then.
I missed meeting President Trump two times, one with Bannon at Trump Tower in
twenty seventeen he had just left.And then again I met with Steve when
he was at the old Executive OfficeBuilding into lighton twenty seventeen, just before
(40:14):
he left the administration. I justmissed President Trump there too. Well.
My other question was, I absolutelyadore the cover of your book. So
you've got all the players Trump,you know, Biden's on the other side,
gret Greta Thornberg. I can't stand. You've got Zuckerberg elon, you
(40:36):
know, President ge Bill Gates ofcourse, mister Amazon. You know now
he's getting married and has this fiftymillion dollars that boat missus Sanchow's to you,
Yes, so true. She's likethe inspiration of the statue on the
front of the boat whatever that's called. But really, oh yeah, yeah,
(41:00):
I'll send you a picture if youhaven't seen it. So so what
a fun cover. You even haveDarling Hillary on there, who you know,
they always dust off. You know, this week she was going after
Tucker that he's a you know,he's a Trader and all of that.
Yeah, says the woman who triedwho bombed Libya and killed Kadaffi and said
(41:21):
we came, we saw he's deador something like that. She's such a
patriot, right right right? Yeah, we wanted chaos, I told him.
When I asked my opinion on thecover, I said, I don't
care, but I think you shouldreflect chaos. And I think that's what
the cover does. Yeah, youeven have the famous Trumper guy with his
horn helmet. I can't even thinkof his name on there, so it's
(41:43):
simply Jacob Chancelly. Well what arewe missing? You are so fun that
your Twitter, Like I told you, that's my new addiction, your ex
so you know it's I vector everybodyto go find you. Larry Schweikart,
New York Times best author, APatriot's History of Globalism. It's rise and
Decline it is. Have we missedanything? Larry? This has been such
(42:07):
an awesome interview. Well, wedidn't talk about rock and roll much,
but we can always do that.I can tell you how I almost burned
down the Yuma Convention Center with aflaming drum solo. That's another story though.
Okay, because there was the pictureI found of you, And You're
like, which one is me?And I'm not sure which one it was
(42:28):
in the Jaws T shirt. Okay, well I will go back and look
because I was, you know,I was chatting about you with my husband
and then you know, I'm like, did you by the way that was
taken? That was taken in Florida? Oh yeah, okay, first Steppenwolf
at Tampa Convention Center and West PalmBeach Auditorium and that was taken right after
the West Palm Beach show. Wow. And how long did you tour as
(42:51):
a as a rocker? I wason the road for five years or so.
Oh. It was a really hardlife. As I said, I
was down to one hundred and twentynine pounds and I could fit into size
twenty nine pounds. I lived onfive dollars a day. I know that
in the seventies five dollars bought more, but it didn't buy that much more.
(43:14):
Wow. And then you're such abrilliant mind, because didn't you go
back to school after that whole experience? Yeah? I said, there's got
to be an easier way to earnyour living than playing hard five hours a
night. Oh my goodness. Wellwe've just you know, somebody's been there.
Do you ever does it get tiringto do play the same set every
(43:37):
night? Or whatever? I mean? Is that I'm just curious how you
do that? No, we neverfound that because we were very much a
club jam band. We had somereally great singles that never got anywhere because
we never had an agent. Butit was always an interaction between the people
(43:59):
and the band, and I alwaysI love playing. It was wonderful.
I'll go into our church these dayshas a band up front that's really you
know, bright lights, big drums, as they say, and I keep
going, I'm better than that guy. Okay. Final question, what does
(44:20):
the twenty twenty four November election meanto you? If, like, I
just feel like this is the mostimportant election in our lifetime? Larry,
Yes, we hear that almost everycycle, the most important election in my
life, but I think this timeit really is. Because if you could
envision another four years of Biden,or the Rooda Bega as I effectually call
(44:45):
him. If you can imagine fourmore years of this, there will be
no United States of America. Wewill be overrun by illegals. He will
have us in three or four orforeign wars. There's just it's incomprehensible that
we allowed this lunatic in there inthe first place, let alone that he
hasn't been impeached and removed. SoI am very optimistic and anything can change.
(45:09):
We got eight months to go.It's a lifetime in politics. But
I think right now President Trump wouldwin a shockingly big victory in the neighborhood
of three twenty to maybe three fortyelectoral votes. But the trend so far
are our friend and every state youlook at, whether it's Michigan, Wisconsin,
Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, theyare all in Trump's favor right now
(45:31):
and all trending in that direction.I do think he maybe even has a
shot at New York. He's downten in New York. But as I
said, the Civil War works againstthe administration there in terms of these illegals,
and that's going to bring a lotof voters either to Trump or to
stay home. Okay, Well,it's been a pleasure having Larry schweikart on.
(45:53):
Please get his book on Amazon.He is a New York Times best
selling author of the new book,A Patriot's History of Globalism, it's Rise
and Decline. Everybody's got to gopick it up because it's outstanding. So
thanks for joining Vernica Live. Larry, thank you, Veronica and John,
thank you. We'll be right backon. We'll be right back on Veronica Live.
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