January 21, 2025 • 60 mins
T.J. Pierce's appearance on VERONICA LIVE delivered a fascinating discussion on his new book Dethrone Davos - Save America. Pierce delves into the controversial topics surrounding the World Economic Forum: the influential figures known as the Thrones of Davos, the Great Reset, and the 2030 plan promoted by global elites. Pierce suggests fighting against these elites is spiritual warfare.The Rapid Fire round touched on President Trump’s inauguration, Pope Francis, the United Nations, World Health Organization, presidential pardons and breaking political news. Insightful discussion with this American Patriot.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Ronica Live. And I'm here with my wingman,
John Salek, and we have a very special guest today.
He is an author of a new book called De
Throne Davos Save America. So we want to welcome Teddy
Pierce to vernicalve.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome Teddy, Hey, thank you so much for having me.
The honor is all mine. It's a wonderful week. It's
inauguration week, it's World Economic Forum week, so let's just
dive right in.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh my gosh. Okay, Well, first tell us about your
background before we get into all of these hot topics.
Who are you, Teddy Well?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I always always say I'm a philosopher by academic background,
because if you go to law school, you say you're
a lawyer. If you go to medical school, you call
yourself a doctor. But if you go to philosophy school
and then call yourself a philosopher, you just sound like
a prigs. So my educational background is in philosophy and
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classical philosophy degree uh, and then tonistic moral theology, so
study the quinas as well. Uh and so yeah, focused
on the natural law uh, and always been fascinated with
American politics and just the true enigma that our country
is and had had a long way around to get
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to writing this book. And uh and but here we
are and yeah, excited to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So so why did you write this book? I mean
the title is d Throne, Davos and Save America Because
anytime you talk about the World Economic Forum, everybody has
a negative connotation. So so what led you to write
the book? And then we could talk about, you know,
what is the World Economic Forum and their famous leader
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as well, we can mention him who he is and
why he's important.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, I did set out to
write a book, and I've always kind of been an
armchair writer. I write articles and things like that. And
really I was noticing a couple of different cultural trends
and things, particularly in entertainment. And I'll tell you particularly
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because when my kids were younger, about a decade ago,
I was trying to pick programming out and watch them.
And so I'm seeing some kids shows that I watched
as a kid and of course didn't get anything out
of it, but even the newer media for kids. You know,
my sin apses are firing off from my education and philosophy,
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and I'm like, whoa like they're teaching these weird concepts
and ideas to kids. And of course this was before
the Obergerfeld decision and before we went off the deep
end with all of the brand new ideologies that have
come to light in the last ten years. But really
that's where it started, where I said, man, and so
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I set out to write this book to assuage people
from all of these ideologies that were creeping in. And
we can get into those more and more, but just
to say that it's very contrariant to the way that
our system of government is set up and the understanding
of our rights. And so I'm seeing this slow creep,
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this ideological creep, and of course I immediately latch onto that.
I start working through the political backwater of leftism and
this real radicalism that was coming to a head. And
of course now they just say the quiet part out loud,
but through that, through that, I started navigating and really
got to a point where I said, you know, this
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is businesses acting this way. It's politicians, it's the mainstream media,
all of these people. It doesn't make sense for them
to be in such ideological lockstep with each other unless
there's a bigger game at play, and that's really where
I got more than I bargained for. And so, you know,
a lot of a lot of research, a lot of
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looking into it, a lot of understanding these players, but
really realizing that it's truly a global apparatus, that it's
at play that is seeking to reimagine the world in
its own image. And they've got enough money and power
and enough streams to pull in enough places all throughout
governments throughout the world, especially ours, through the economy, through
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the culture, and through the media. And yeah, they're a
little bit further along in their plans most people want
to admit. So so, how did you know we've got
to wake up fast?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It was the World Economic Forum? Did you know that?
Did you start out realizing that's who is behind all
of this? I mean, because you have some strong I
mean you talk about that your book is the blueprint
and that I guess the World Economic Forum wants like
one government for the whole world by twenty thirty, which
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is scandalous to me. So how did you land on
World Economic Forum that they're the bad guy?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah? Well, one of the greatest sign posts was this
really highly produced promotional video that they pumped out there
and obviously went straight to production and didn't field tests
at first. But they were these eight predictions is what
they called them, and I think they're probably a little
more veiled threat than prediction. But you know, one of
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the very first things, it's very first prediction in this
video is that you will own nothing, but don't worry
about it. You'll be happy, you know, And that's you
got to have the audacity of the devil himself to say,
don't worry. Let me manage and own everything for you.
And I'll let you have your experiences and what you
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what you deserve, right, let me decide for you. And
so I really started looking into the World Economic Forum,
and in the book I describe it this way. I
think it's the best way to say it is the
World Economic Forum itself. It's founded by klausch Fob And
you know, Bill Gates has a lot of interactions with
the World Economic Forum. They're on their Davos festivus this week.
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You know, I joked earlier that the Swiss air is
full of jet fuel, the smell of jet fuel and
cheap perfume. As the world elite and their gaggle of
hookers descends on I.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Did read about it last year, so that's what cracks
me up. All the billionaires playing in on their jets.
And then, as you said, it's like the it's like
also the World Economic Forum, you know, gathering of prostitutes.
So it's huge for those that don't follow the World
Economic Forum.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, but yeah, the World Economic Forum represents this front
facing office. It's like they're Apple stores, you know. They
have all these articles and they tell you that they're
that transhumanism is a beautiful thing and we're going to
step into the new future where you're going to upload
your brain to the cloud. They talk about all of
these NGOs and all of this good that they're doing
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for the world, and claud Schwab and Euviul Hurrari and
these people that they're pretty wealthy, you know, I'm sure
they're millionaires. They're the intellectual priestly class that's supposed to
sell this idea of reimagining the world order and it
being a good thing. Of course, the real power behind
the throne or who I identify in the book as
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the Thrones of Davos, and those people you're never going
to see at the Forum, you know, they're never going
to be on Forbes's Top one hundred Riches people list.
They pay not to be on that list because you know,
they don't measure their wealth in dollars like Elon Musk does.
They weigh their wealth in terms of power and control.
And so really capitalized on that World Economic Forum because
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it's that forward facing marketing arm that's really trying to
sell their plans for world domination right open in plain sight.
And the more people they can get to buy into it,
and the more people think that it's a safe and
good and progressive thing for the world, more power can
be grabbed and more inevitable is their soft to their
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soft takeover and it being a success.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So where do you see the split? You know, you
have the conservative what i'd call conservative loosely philosophy, you know,
Edmund Burke, John Locke, you know, the idea of the individual.
You know, where did that get destroyed? And this Davos thing.
Are these people just do they think they're so much
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smarter than the rest of the world. I mean, is
it hubrious on their part? But I mean we've kind
of transformed from that philosophy in the seventeen eighteen hundred
know to this weird, weird stuff that we have with
the Daubos crown.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And yes, absolutely, and that's something that I really focused
on in the book. It's one of the central themes
is the concept of relativism. And you know that's a word,
you know, that's fancy philosophy word. Practically speaking, what relativism
is is a denial of the concept of truth. So
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more precisely, relativism is the denial of value judgments. So
there's no such thing as capital B beauty. Beauty is
purely in the eye of the beholder. You know, there
is no capital T truth with a trademark over it.
It's just your truth and my truth. And we all
just float in the ether man. And you know, sometimes
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the sounds we call this the woke point of view.
And for all of the things you can say about wokeness,
it always marketed to us. Is this more tolerant, more understanding,
less rigid, beautiful worldview. But ultimately, what happens in relativism
is it destroys morality. It destroys the concept of God
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and that we're all beholden to God and our rights
come from God. Instead, it's the idea of whoever can
impose their reality onto the world. Deserves to define reality,
and no amount of the shared reality that we're all
living in, no amount of that is ever going to
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dissuade them from trying to carry the revolution or carry
their visions of grandeur and try to make it so.
And you know, I know that a lot. That's a
whole mouthful, but the political philosophy that we see, especially
in the radical left, where they, you know, we're trying
to redefine biology. We're trying to redefine all of these things.
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And we can just throw more money and more compassion
and more good feels at the situation and it's just
going to magically get solved. And that we can deny
and defy what it means to be a human person
and what it means to live in a fallen world
and how best to orient a government or a society
towards those immutable characteristics of reality. Uh. You know that
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that uniquely American concept that we have is just being
completely eroded by the progressive vision of relativism. And we
can get into a little bit more about how relativism
is Marxism and critical theory. You can see where it's
destructivist in nature.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, I can't even say that word. I'm trying to
practice it before the shot.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So is this so?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Is this?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You know, you have you have objective truth out there?
Do these people not believe objective truth? You know? I
mean understand, I understand their their manipulating subject of truth
to get to get to their end. But but I mean,
are are these are these aren't stupid people? Okay? And well, and.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I want to piggyback on that question, John, because Teddy,
why why do the billionaires and millionaires join the World
Economic Form? It's sounding very cultish to me, you know,
because I don't want to be just one one global entity.
I want everybody to be their own. And you talk
about in the book, how you know America taking us
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down the number one thing? So why why are they
joining this? Is it a cult? The World Economic Form?
I mean, what is the attraction that everybody's running, you know,
chasing this? The founder class?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Mm hmm, yeah. That is one of the interesting things
people are always saying, Oh, I can't this is just
a conspiracy theory. There'd be too many people that have
to be in on it, you know, And really, the
the ideology of relativism and how they view the world
is what pulled them together. You know, if everybody, no
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matter if they're a millionaire, a billionaire, or the trillionaires
behind the throne, you know, behind the organization, no matter
who they are, they're all believing in, at least in
some degree, that they can remake the world in their image.
And of course the lower people on the totem pole,
like Bill Gates, like Klaus Schwab, they're really aligned in
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their ideology and so they believe that. And whether or
not they're just joining because they think it's the inevitable
outcome of the future, I'm sure there are several that
are just doing that. But certainly this following this ideology
rejecting God, rejecting the concept of an ultimate truth, and
just giving into that temptation. You know, relativism is the
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theology of the devil. The devil is the first one
to say, no, I will not serve God. I have
seen your vision, your be a tific vision, and I
reject it. And so if it's a constant temptation to
humans to say, well, I know that that's true or
that's the right thing to do, but it's more expedient,
it's more convenient to do this. And so if you
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erase God from your framework, then then it's just a
power struggles. You know, it's just what is most expedient.
How can I garner my most the most power that
I can? And as you know, as you become more
detached from the world, as you become richer, and the
human problems become smaller and smaller in your mind, that's
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that is a powerful opiate that leads you in very
dark ways. And I think that's what connects most of
these people.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Well, well, is it because like the millionaires want to
be on the coattails of the billionaires and they just
think it's like this cool club, you know, but I
don't know. I mean Amazon, Bezo's he's Amazon, you know,
selling me things.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Bill Gates is always pushing his agenda. I don't know.
I don't understand why these people think that they can
take over the world with what they want. That's my frustration, right.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, yeah, and a lot of that does come to
Like I said, you know, when you get I am
sure that Bill Gates, he goes around You can listen
to his speeches and talk and everything. He sounds like
he's talking about humans like chattel, you know, as the commodity.
The way he speaks is very utilitarian, just most good
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for the most amount of people. And of course that
creates a lot of moral problems and moral quandaries, and
it makes a lot more sense in the more of
the collectivist framework, and not really in the concept of
what it means to be an American. You know, rightly understood.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It just about being an American. Or do you think
that this has roots in the religious decline of religious
activity and beliefs around the world.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, I think those are deeply, deeply connected. And in
chapter six I try to articulate, is best I can,
the concept of what it means to be an American.
And frankly, if you read what the Founders wrote, if
you read their letters to each other, and certainly read
the Declaration and the Constitution, the idea that there was
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a God that existed, who was our creator and endowed
us with our rights, that is a fundamentally American position,
and it's both established in the natural law, in the
rational understanding of God, and then of course the natural law.
You can't really separate that from from the religious connotations
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and saint, you know, and Thomas Kleinus, who who is
the one who coined the term in the Summa Theologica.
So I think that as we decline as a country
in religiosity, and as we lose our faith and belief
in the fact that there is a God and that's
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the source of our rights, obviously, the more untangled of
our security and our safety and our understanding of the constitution,
you know, the more that's just going to unravel over time.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So you talk about the Great Reset and the World
Economic Forms Agenda. So I've been looking prepping for the interview.
I mean, they're they're talking about the Intelligent Age. You know,
everybody's so worried about AI and and because the rapid
growth of technology. Uh so, so tell me about this
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Great Reset? And do I need to be concerned that
they're talking about you know, I guess the technological advances
that are happening out there that everybody's AI is the
word that everybody says every two.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Minutes, right right, Well, that is I try to remain
as objective, and I can tell you not with a
great deal of exactitude. You know, I don't know, they
haven't telegraphed any specifics. I'll just put it that way.
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But I do know that the Great Reset and the
year twenty thirty is something that constantly comes up in
the rhetoric that's pumped out by the World Economic Forum. Again,
that's their sales pitch, you know, And so they're saying
by twenty thirty, these huge paradigm shifting, world shifting events
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are going to take place by twenty thirty. And I
don't know how far down the conspiratorial rabbit hole you
managed to go, but I did mention an author, a
Canadian author who wrote back in nineteen ninety four. He
wrote this book called Project Blue Beam, and in Project
Bluebeam he predicted what was going to happen and has
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basically said that an organization like NASA is going to
work with the international intelligence community five eyes to create
this event. They're going to use all kinds of technology,
you know, technology that the military knows about, that not
even regular everyday Americans know about, and they were going
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to use that to simulate something like the Second Coming
or this just huge life altering event. And so I
don't know if it's going to be some sort of
physical cataclysm, if it's going to look like some sort
of religious second coming event or if it's going to
be you know, we've had all of this telegraphing of
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UAPs and UFOs, and so is it going to be
this event where they say, oh, well, aliens of landed
they're going to communicate to us. Either way, we're going
to have to be very prepared for some type of
event like that, because you think about it, if we're
if we're not going to own anything, they're going to
own the world, and they're going to create this soft coup,
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you know, where the United Nations becomes both truly international
and mandatory, and they're going to reimagine the world and
their image where they can control what we eat and
control what medical services we can have, and what we
can own and not own, and create this global digital currency.
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It's going to be some type of world altering event,
and it is going to be this call for international
collaboration to solve that problem. And so, you know, we
individual speculations aside. This is what they're telegraphing over and over,
is that that's the plan. And I don't know if
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Trump being re elected accelerates that moves their tideline up
to town.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
We will get to Trump. Yeah, because he's actually going
to be video leaking linking into the world's economic forum.
So I find that interesting because you know, today it's
been twenty four hours. It's a Trump world. I want
to say, Daddy's back, and twenty thirties right around the corner.
I mean, there's so much in your book that you
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talk about.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Can I give you a quick follow up on it?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Go ahead, John?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Do you think COVID was a dry run for that
that that world event that you were talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yes, I definitely think so. And it's easy to get
conspiratorial or to pretend that this is going to be
some giant, isolated event. But I think with COVID, uh,
and then I think with the housing crisis of two
thousand and eight before that, the dot com bubble, and
certainly even going back to something like the Great Depression.
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Is you have to look at it through the right lens,
but you really start to see all of these is
being lesser resets leading up to it, and with the
way that it was just a perfectly choreographed response all
the way through. Everybody was an ideological lockstep with each other.
You know, I don't believe in that level of coincidences
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and especially when you look at the fact that it
was the largest transfer of wealth from lower and middle
class up to that trillionaire class. You know, it begs
credulity at that point. I believe that's how you.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Say that, Oh that's a big word. Well, you talk
about the Federal Reserve's role, So so what is their
role in this mess?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, Well, the Federal Reserve is about as federal as
federal expresses. It is a private banking cartel. There's a
ur L in the book. The book is worth a
purchase all by itself to get that URL, and you
can see the names of the people and their private
banks that underwright the US dollar through the Federal Reserve.
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And so the control of the world's reserve currency is
a huge part of their plan and another one of
those strings that they pull on and make sure that
the world when they put their thumb on the scale
to affect the outcome, that the world moves. And so
the sheer control of the Federal Reserve and the International
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Monetary Fund being ultimately you know, we say that America
is thirty six close to thirty seven trillion dollars in debt,
and as long as America can pay off that debt
somehow we get to keep our sovereignty. But really the
truth of the matter is those private banks underwrite the
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Federal Reserve and therefore their policy along with America's government
borrowing that amount of money. This just gives you ideas
their power. They don't mind being thirty seven trillion dollars
in debt because ultimately, if America goes bankrupt, they flit
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the bill, their banks cover the loss, and then that
means that the country of America is in a bargaining
or bartering system with these private banks for trying to
come up with the assets to pay it off. But
the Federal Reserve is just the main functionary to have
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power and control and to put America into a debt spiral.
And I think it's not a threat, but it's a promise.
You know that we live in this unsustainable system of
just borrowing and borrowing and borrowing, and that lets you
know that this was never meant It's not sustainable and
it was never designed to be sustainable. It's leading towards something, right,
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What is that? Something that's a hard truth that we're
going to have to look at.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, you have this this little cute little graph chart
in the book which I have to comment on. It's
the nineteen seventy one cost of living. And I think
what pushed me over the edge was I paid seven
dollars for a dozen eggs yesterday and I was literally mortified.
And this was at a cheap grocery outlet is what
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we call this store. And guess how much they were,
John forty five cents in nineteen seventy one, So that
pushed me over the edge, Teddy, because and then you've
got bacon was eighty cents a pound. It's ten dollars now.
And it's funny because you have the average new house
was twenty five k. My grandparents bought a house in
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Salaitte Beach, Florida in nineteen seventy and I think they
paid like thirty k. So and in the average income,
this one's hysterical ten thousand dollars. So, I mean, how
did we get from this madness? Now that I'm paying
seven dollars? And then John knows I have a whipped
cream issue because my dog's like puppaccinos and it's seven
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buck for whipped cream. I mean, I'm losing. I want
to go back to this nineteen seventy, a movie ticket
was a dollar fifty forty cents for gas, John for
the gallon so and then eight cents for a postage stamp.
I don't even know how much a damn postage stamp
is these days, because they don't tell me. It's this
mystery book that I buy that is supposedly good for life.
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I'm probably paying ten dollars a stamp. At this point.
That was my favorite graph because you push me over
the edge, Teddy with the eggs forty five cents, I'm like,
are you kidding me? I mean, are we going to
be able? You know, because you talk about all of
these billionaires, you know, Bill Gates pushing his let's eat bugs.
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I'm over that. I just don't think by twenty thirty
these people are going to have a grasp on me.
And one of your big you say two things in
the book that intrigued me was that this is not
a Democrat or Republican manifesto. And then the most important
thing that you pointed out in the book is that
this is spiritual. It's a spiritual battle. And then is
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that the thing everybody at World Economic Forum? Because I
talk about this, John and I talk about this all
the time. Our world is missing God and faith and family,
and why do I It sounds like these billionaires and
millionaires are missing it too, So so yeah, why is
it a spiritual battle? Are these all faithless people because
they're loaded?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well, I think that certainly contributes to it. But you're
exactly right. The reason that it's a spiritual battle is,
you know, most of the time, if we're all functioning
in the same framework, if we all are striving towards
the same standard, we can you know, we can have
a great amount of diversity in thought and how we
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go about our lives and how we're all getting to
the same place. Right. But as we as this political divide,
which you know, I think Trump in his inauguration and
having the endorsement of Democrat you know, Lifer Powerhouse Family
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RFK endorsing him as well as Topy Gabbard, and you're
and you're starting to see the line of splitting from
right politics, party politics versus Democrat party politics, and this
it's just making strange bedfellows and strange divides. And I
think that's where really where we've come to. Uh, And
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that's what I would pause. It is We've gotten to
this point where we have enough people who have bought
the Boss a lie, have drunk the kool aid of
this modern liberalism, which is rooted in relativism, and they
just feel like they don't need God. They're rich and
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powerful enough they can do these types of things. They
control industries that just piles through the media, you know.
And so what we're experiencing is not two different visions
for how we get to the same place and make
a successful America anymore. What we're dealing with is a
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very a tip of the sphere, a very radical group
within the Democrat Party, the Progressive Party that have gained
an outsize amount of institutional control in our fourth branch
of government and our regulatory state. And they're the darlings
of the media. And so it feels like their narrative
is truth itself, but what they are is reality Itself'll
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be fair to them because they don't believe in truth,
but they think that they set reality. And they if
you're high on your own supply, and you think that
you can manifestly change someone's gender merely by wishing it so,
or you can change the nature of productivity, and that
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you can create a welfare system or a collectivist system.
You know, when you've bought into it and you're that
ideologically committed, that person is probably not actively thinking I'm
worshiping Satan, right, that's not what's.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Going on, And you do mention him in the book.
That word always scares me. So I was reading really
fast through the Satan words that were in the book.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Evil exists. Evil is real, you know, and yes, absolutely
it twists people, and and you know the thing that
you're you're mentioning it, it's not these people don't care
what the outcome is. You know, that's that's irrelevant to
you know, the end result climate change. You know, we're
going to do all this stuff. We're going to stop
CEO two do da da da da. And it's like, well,
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whether you stop c T two or not is is
not really important. What's important is you know you have tried.
You know, we did something and the results be damned,
and it's leading. You know, they've gone so far left.
And you know, four or five years ago I started
the from my observations in politics that we're going to
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see a third party. For me, that that you know,
these people on the Democrats are are so far to
the left that most of the Democrat Party that has
a brain still has a brain and understands reason that
they're not wanting to be the right right leaning Republicans.
And you've got Republicans and and what I call the
Maga Republicans, the people that want to make America great again,
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not not the Bush type you know, uh uh, you
know Davos type Republicans is a good way to describe, right.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah. And you're getting this third party now, and it's
the Maga Party and it's pulling from the middle.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay, Well, I've been mega for a really long time. Yeah,
I hate because people don't like me because I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
So mega right, and it's and it's results. It's results
oriented number one. Results matter, Yes, And I think that's
a huge shift that were seeing in politics right now.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Well, Teddy, can we change these people because if they
don't believe in God, I mean, because you say some
strong things in there that like if you don't let
me see I wrote it down here about God, like
if you what did you say?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Right, if you don't think they are divinely I guess
I write this right, it's instructed by God or inspired
by God. I can't read my handwriting, but you mentioned
that God's part of it, and so obviously these people
are missing that, especially when you read about communism and Marxism.
You know, none of these people that push that were
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God people for sure. So why is it so important
that God's part of this? I mean, how do I
change these people? And you know, end this madness? I
don't want one one world system and then I have
to wait in line for bread and pay you know,
more than seven bucks for eggs, because that's pushing me
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to the edge already.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I do make a very clear distinction
in the book that if you took the progressive vision
world economic form and all laid it out for people,
no matter if they identified as moderate, right of center,
left of center, if you did a man on the
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street and asked, do you accept this as your political platform?
I don't think you get ten percent of the country
to really, you know, buy it, hook line and sinker.
And so I have a lot of ire and a
lot of things to say about the leadership of the
Democrat Party and whether they're allowing the progressives to kind
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of rule over their narrative and what they bring up
and what they passed, but that leadership has a very
very different level of accountability to say just the regular
voter and for most of the country, I would you know,
you're going to have people pushing one way and people
pushing another way, and ultimately the great disaffected middle right,
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the people who want to have a successful country, have
a better economy for their kids than they had, have
more opportunities. You know, that's really the sentiment think of
exactly to your point, I think the majority of the
country wants sensible leadership, They want results driven leadership, and
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that used to be marketed as the Democrat Party, and
as they've gotten crazier and crazier and crazier, especially this
last election shows, you know, the majority of Americans for
the first time since I think Reagan voted and gave
the popular vote to Trump, and who again to your point,
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does not represent the established Republican powers. And I'll just say,
you know that divide I think is coming. And a
picture is worth a thousand words. And you and take
still shots of nearly any moment of Trump's inaugural address yesterday,
and you have the Clinton's, the Bushes, the Obamas, and
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the Bidens cringing at everything.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, she looked awful because she was wearing a jacket
that was twelve times too big. I think she borrowed
it from Hillary and then she was all like like
almost a ball in that chair.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Talk about the talk about the modern divide in American politics,
and we're living through the snapping in the paradigm shifts
as we speak, and I think that the you'll start
seeing a lot of establishment Republicans start to push back
against Trump and his agenda. And that's really where we're
at now. We're it's we the people versus this dirty
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DC apparatus, this establishment that's inside the DC Beltway, and
it has more allegiance to globalism and to this you know,
these kumbay y'all feelings of liberal utopia. Than then they
have to we the people. And that's that's the battle.
That's the battle that we're going to see over the
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next four years. I think.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So Teddy back to that statement because you say in
the book it's not a dem or Republican manifesto. But
but I mean, I'm finding this. I mean, the book's great,
it's it's it's easy to understand. You have that graphic
that made me mad. You know, how have you always
been political? I mean because to me, it's it's a
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conservative read because you talk about Wall Street too, you know,
and and all of these you know Nato. I mean,
you mentioned all of these things that that I talk about.
But were you political before? I mean, how do you
get to this point? Because obviously you're a godly man
because you mentioned that throughout there being being a believer
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of God? Make you political on the on the right side,
I mean, describe who you are and how this I
mean because this book to me leans as a Republican.
I read it like this as a book for my team.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yes, I would agree, And I don't pretend to be
completely unbiased. Definitely a huge supporter of Donald Trump. Uh,
you know, three time Trump voter. So I won't pretend
that I'm somehow above the fraid anybody who pretends that
they're just above politics are there. They become unwitting allies
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of the people who want to upset the world order
the most, you know, because it's like go to I
go to my church and I talk to people and
they don't want to talk politics, and I'm like, okay,
so we're both pro life. You and I fellow churchgoer,
but now I have to fight the pro choice people.
And and you're in, you know, in your unwillingness to
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talk about politics. You know, now I have two I
got two people I got to deal with now. And
so I have always been fascinated, like I said, with
the American form of government. It just it's a true
enigma in history. I've always liked history and studying, and
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then philosophy is the study of human thought, and so
that's that's really where I approach politics from. And I
have a deep reverence for America how it was founded,
just the fact that it was founded at all. You know,
we should have had King Washington. We should be having
what George Washington to eights right on the throne of America,
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had we followed the normal and typical way of the world.
And so I think really seeing what the radical progressive
left has been able to accomplish, just my slowly infiltrating
institutions throughout the past century. And then now we're getting
to the part where they say the quiet part out loud,
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and we have self avowed collectivists in Congress. You know,
a lot of people are beginning to wake up. But
that really does radicalize you in very specific ways. And
you know, I have kids, and I want my kids
to grow in in America that acknowledges that there's a
creator and that is where we get our rights. And
the government doesn't have the authority or ability to take
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those rights from my children and their posterity. And so
you know we're dealing with that.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, well you mentioned Wall Street and corporations. I mean,
is the bottom line it's all about money because they
all have such big bank accounts and they want to
maintain that. And they don't care if there's zero in
our bank account because then they can control us.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Right. And the first section, the first five chapters of
the books, part one, is called It's the Economy Stupid,
you know, and I really try to point to those real,
tangible economic ways in which this cabal of people have
such power. And now, you know, in chapter two, who
Rules the World? Brief walk through history of the amount
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of different world leaders and political leaders that have been
famously you know, world rulers or you know, can at
least be described as having conquered the world. And what
we are dealing with now are people who own so
many pieces of a global economy, and we have this
global economy that's never truly in the way that stock markets,
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that reserve currencies work and all of these things. It's
never existed before. And they don't control the majority of it,
but they control enough of the individual multinational corporations, the
shipping lanes, the movement of goods and services, and international
trade agreements. You know, that's really their source of their power,
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their their technocrats. You know that they rule by virtue
of being able to squeeze companies, uh, squeeze investors, choke
out funding for other different you know, for different businesses
who step out of line. And you know, if if
anybody doubts me on this, you know, I'm sure that
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you guys saw in the news about the environmental and
social governance scores for businesses on the Fortune five hundred,
these these social credit scores, Yeah, for for businesses. No,
no business in their right mind would accept something that
is going to hurt the bottom line and the hurt
and hurt the investors. And yet everybody got in line.
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Everybody was going to do it and just step into
this thing that was going to hurt hurt their corporations,
hurt their bottom lines and the only people the only
rational explanation to that is somebody who doesn't count their wealth, right,
they don't tell their dollar bills in their bank account.
They're measuring their percentage control of that stock. And so
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that goes into the Vanguard, State Street and Blackrock conversation,
three private hedge funds that collective we have over seven
trillion dollars invested into the Fortune five hundred.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Which you don't have a lot of graphs about that too.
That's the thing I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
And State in the state of Florida was you know,
one of the leaders in divesting from the state retirement funds,
you know, black Rock and companies like that that we're
using these these ESG and de I E policies, you know,
because they're the.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
More yeah, yeah, the the more that they have invested
into a company. You know, right now, in the majority
of the Fortune five hundred companies, those three private funds
are the number one, number two, and number three investor.
You just take Caterpillar for example, if Miller said, we're
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not doing ESG. We're going to pay diesel engines because
we make power equipment. We're not going to put these
these social credit scores on our company. Well, they could
sell their position in Caterpillar and tank that company overnight,
that Bord will be gone. They'll flip the board and
they'll get some friendlies in there. And you bet the
next the next time around, they're they're going to adopt
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the exact policies that that these global technocrats are demanding
that they they adopt.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Okay, well, I want to I want to do a
rapid fire with you because your your ex account's really
fun and so I wanted your thoughts on the Trump
inauguration yesterday.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I thought it was brilliant. I have high high hopes
and uh I hope that he has a quadrupled the
amount of security that he thinks he needs around him
for the next four years.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Very true. And then what about the J six pardons,
because you know, the DC Gulag still has some of
the JA sixers. Hopefully by this after when this airs tonight,
they'll be out, but they weren't letting them out last night.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I can tell you, yeah, yeah, I really did. You know,
it's hard to say all of the violent criminal this
and that, and you just compare what they've already gone
through and whether or not they there was any legitimate
reason other than just being a political prisoner. No release
(44:34):
of all that. That's purely what they were there for.
I think that there is a lot of strong evidence
that it was an inside job. And more than that,
I want to see everybody who was in prison regarding
January sixth make a class action lawsuit against the federal government.
I think that that would be just okay.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
The Biden pardons, which the gift that I knew this happening.
I knew this was coming John, I said it. We
had all his relatives dated back to I think twenty fourteen.
Oh really, you're not criminals. And then we had Lovely
Fauci and then General Millie, which I was glad to
read that they ripped his damn photo. I think it
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was out of the Pentagon, off the wall because the
man is such a trader. So what are your thoughts
on on the Biden Party?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Strong opinions here? Urry?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, Well, I think it's a crime against humanity that
Biden has hidden his family and his administration's crimes against humanity. Yeah,
and hope, I hope that they look at the legal
precedent of a preemptive pardon, because there had to be
a crime to get pardoned for. And I've seen a
lot of good posts on X about saying you can't
(45:52):
just say you can't go after this person. That's what
the pardon is. So I want Trump's DOJA to look
in of that and so many bad actors in the
Biden administration. But uh, little rat Fauci deserves far worse
than he's ever going to get.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
You know, to me, Fauchi, and I've said this many
times on the show, that Fauci is the biggest mass
murderer in the history of mankind.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Horrific.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
I mean, yeah, you know that that COVID virus goes
right back to him and his experimenting with transfers to
human from that bad virus that that was Anthony Fauci originated.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yes, and the response that you know, he orchestrated the
response to to set himself up as the tyrant and
the dictator that would bring the Trump administration to heal.
And that's that's that's pretty rough too.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
So Teddy, are you catholic because you wrote I didn't
realize you could write op eds on X. But you
have a brilliant one called the Francis problem. John. He
talks about the Pope.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
John and oh he says.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Why, he says stupid stuff yours with heresy and is
finding new ways to undermine the Church and the age
of the New World Order. So, Teddy, are you a
fellow Catholic like us that is frustrated by the Pope
because this, I mean I was. I was laughing when
I read this, because it's really good. You're a little
op ed here.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, well, I don't know what we're supposed to call
ourselves disenfranchised, but yeah, I'm a Catholic frustrated with our
church leader.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Truth seeking Catholics, that's what we are.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Well, the Vietnamese pope many years ago, when the Pope
wrote that, like then cyclical whatever it was on it was,
I think, wasn't global warming. I can't even remember. I
went to the Pope. I went to the priest and
I was very frustrated. And he was a Vietnamese priest
that had like fled Communism and he goes Ronica. He's
just a man that is not Jesus. So so since
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that priest many years ago told me that that's kind
of how I see it, you know, only Jesus was
the non flawed man.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Right, Well, you know, the Pope had an atheist write
his environmental policy, okay, an atheist, and then claim that
it was God God's desire. I'm like, you're you're insane, dude.
You may be the Pope, but you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think that goes back to a
little bit of just the Jesuit outlook, and in that
up added, I certainly think it's worth a read for
anybody interested to really understand what's driving Pope Francis's.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah, well, we talked about this on the show. You
know that that they're you know there. I think there's
a schism coming in the church, you know, between the
European you know, particularly the German Catholics and the African Catholics.
I think, I think, and the US shades towards the
conservative side. There's a lot of there's a lot of
them that are right there with the German guys.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Well, he's a Jesuit from Latin America and that's probably
a part of.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
A commis commy.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, okay, you talk about defending the UN, I'm right
there with you, Teddy.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, as far as well in what part I'm okay
with some parts of the UN, but I don't want
them to become our overlord where the UN policy supersedes
US policy.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
And at who is on track to do that, you know,
is one organization, you know, to your point about about
you know what's coming in twenty thirty. You know, we've
seeded power and I don't I don't know if Trump's
pulled it back yet. But the Biden people were willing
to see to seed our sovereignty to the World Health
Organization for the next global crisis.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, that was that was some scary stuff, and not
enough people were We're hip to the jive on that.
So I hope, I hope this time if if it's
a bird flu or whatever, they're going to come up
with next and sell to us as the next big thing.
I'm really I'm hopeful, but certainly looking for a lot
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more people to stand up and say no this time
are out.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
What about NGOs because they always seem to play a
hand also with the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, that it's it's very unfortunate, and I think that
NGOs are really the logical extension of the way that
we allow lobbyists and these large organizations to lobby our government.
And you know, I write about this in the book
as well. Most of the NGOs that the sieve government
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our tax dollars, you know, they are allowed to begin
in the tax dollars because they support the globalist vision.
And so there are a lot of Catholic charities on
the border right now that are facilitating the illegal migration.
And you know that goes all the way up to
Pope Francis criticizing America for daring to have a you know,
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an immigration policy, and so yeah, these these NGOs end up, well,
we're seeing it with the funding in Ukraine. We're seeing
it with just purposely not enforcing the law on the border.
I think so many people are waking up and realizing
that this globalist vision, like you have to kind of
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buy into the globalist vision if you want to be
effective within the government and in these NGOs that are
propped up by the government, and that's how you get
your funding. And people are starting to wake up and realize, hey,
we don't need to be spending money on this. Our
infrastructure here is falling apart. You know, they are homeless veterans.
That's just unforgivable, and you know, we we've got work
(51:59):
to do here. We've got problems here that we need
to resolve and take care of. We need to stop
especially going into debt to fund the globalist vision and
to fund the CIA's war monitoring throughout the world.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
And I find I find that that particularly your your
point and the war monitoring is certainly you know, and
that's one thing I like about Trump. You know, these
adventures are going to stop, you know, sending American troops
overseas to fight other people's wars, you know, for economic
benefit of these world organizations. You know that that needs
(52:36):
to stop. And I think Trump Trump's hip to that,
as you say, and and and and I think we'll
see some changes there. Where do you where do you
see the World Health Organization playing a role in in
these I mean, is this a coordinated you have? You have?
You have the Davos crowd.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
I've read some stuff about the Federal the Federal Reserve. I'mever,
if you've ever read the book about Jackal Island and
the creation of the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
You know, that's a great.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Excellent book, you know, And and where did this where's
all this coming from? I mean, is are we talking
like one hundred years worth of worth of just progressivism,
and this is the ultimate commolation of that, you know,
that is it?
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah, I think that's very fair to say. We had,
through the progressive era, going all the way back to
the early nineteen hundreds, to carry some of that history
and bring that narrative forward in the book. And of
course we had this great culture upheaval in the nineteen sixties,
and it was the injection of what I call modern liberalism,
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not to be confused with any sort of classical liberal view,
but it was this new relativistic bend of why and
I describe it as the Beach Boys song Wouldn't It
Be Nice? You know, the modern liberals wanted to put
Wouldn't It Be Nice? On repeat and just continue to
knock down these guardrails that were put up and said, hey,
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the government's got a function in this direction, and if
it doesn't, you're going to lose the plot, You're going
to lose the path. And just why not, Ah, don't
be stodgy, you don't you know, why can't I do
this and do this and question this moral certitude and
this social policy. Let's just knock it all down and
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really get our hands on this thing and see how
we can bring it forward into the new world. And
that sort of thinking pulled in and allowed progressivism to
take very strong institutional power. It was a form of
relativism that America could swallow or deal with, while this
true collectivist, Marxist minded progressivism infiltrated the institutions. And then
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now we're seeing that that liberal world order. Like I
said earlier, it was never meant to be sustainable. It
was meant to be a cover for the Marxists to
gain control. And the Marxists are being driven by the
globalists because they're you know, the Marxists talk about people
who are Marxist sympathizers. They call them useful idiots, you know,
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the people who are willing to do their dirty work
for them and argue with their families about why communism
is better than any other form of government. And what
the globalists have done is co opted these these ideologues,
these collectivist ideologues, to infiltrate and take over these institutions
of power in America and throughout the West. But ultimately
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they are useful idiots to the World Economic Forum, who
ultimately has the economic control, and they pull the strings,
and so what they will end up having is these
despotic regimes, these heavy, top down bureaucratic regimes that rule
you from on high and the capital city and throughout
the world America and Europe and throughout the world. And
(56:04):
they can if they can make a mandatory un So,
all the countries are still going to be named that
their names, the states will be their names. But we'll
have this ultimate rule by expert class in Davos, and
then it will be the function of the governments of
the world to tell us plebeians how we're going to live.
And now policy is going to.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Affect I'm not doing it, And you said, useful idiot,
And AOC kept popping it into my head, AOC because
she wouldn't go to the inauguration, and then she kept
making little videos with no makeup on. And there's certain things,
Teddy that pushed me to the a edge.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
Ac ronica when when you know, speaking of AOC, you know,
when I first heard about the Green New Deal, I
was laughing my ass off. I was literally like, this
is insanity. Who in their right mind would come up
with this? And the next thing you know, the Biden
idiots have passed it.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yes, because Teddy John and I talk. We are like,
we're like Trumpers, We're twenty four to seven people. I
don't have the bank account of these people, but I'm
always unfortunately, I'm wired to save the world. And then
all of these people that are lazy are always trying
to take my money and telling me what to do
with it, you know, and what shot I need to get,
(57:20):
which you know. But what if we missed today, Teddy?
Because I've thoroughly enjoyed the book, because it can be geeky,
you know, when you're talking about I can't say that
word RelA to visit. I can't say that word. I
can't say it. And then talking about global control, their
Federal Reserve, you know, I mean the bottom line, I
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think they're missing God. But what if we missed today?
Why should people run out and get your book? It's
very enjoyable, and I wanted to say you mentioned you
talked about Sonsu, who's a wonderful warrior. I mean, you
mentioned these warriors throughout the book. So I was excited
because I love his book is one of my favorites. Actually,
But we've been talking about d Throndavos save America. What
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have we missed today? Because we have to save America.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Well, absolutely we do. And I think it's just to
make a closing argument for the book. First of all,
like I said, you can find out who actually owns
the world. There's a url in the book. The book
is worth its weight right there. Go out and get
it so you can know who you're would be globalist
overlords are, but we are going to defeat them. And
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the book does really articulate the proper vision for America,
proper right ordering for how we can come together as
this new party and separate ourselves from the established powers
that really have turned their back on us as a
nation and as we the people, and we're the sovereigns.
You know, we are Americans and uniquely among the world,
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we are citizens. We are not subjects of our country.
D Throne Davos is your ultimate blueprint and you can
get as far in the weads as you want to.
With the philosophical conversation. It brings clarity to the political
conversation and really who those bad actors are and ultimately
where their bread's buttered. And you can also get into
(59:16):
the economics and really understand the true nature of who
owns what and who the real planners are, and so
it's an ultimate guidebook for us to understand where we
are being led and where we want to go and
where we want to go forward as a country maintaining
our freedom and our true American spirit. So please, yeah,
(59:39):
go get the been a pleasure, Yeah, bec I'm a
happy warrior with us.
Speaker 1 (59:43):
D Throne, Davos, Save America. Teddy Pears, It's on Amazon
and you are on x It's Teddy P for Patriots
seventeen seventy six and I can't wait to have you back. Teddy.
It's been such a joy having you on Vronic Alive today.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
It's been my pleasure, so thankful, and yes we will
have to do it again.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Fight
Welcome to Ronica Live. And I'm here with my wingman,
John Salek, and we have a very special guest today.
He is an author of a new book called De
Throne Davos Save America. So we want to welcome Teddy
Pierce to vernicalve.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Welcome Teddy, Hey, thank you so much for having me.
The honor is all mine. It's a wonderful week. It's
inauguration week, it's World Economic Forum week, so let's just
dive right in.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh my gosh. Okay, Well, first tell us about your
background before we get into all of these hot topics.
Who are you, Teddy Well?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I always always say I'm a philosopher by academic background,
because if you go to law school, you say you're
a lawyer. If you go to medical school, you call
yourself a doctor. But if you go to philosophy school
and then call yourself a philosopher, you just sound like
a prigs. So my educational background is in philosophy and
(01:06):
classical philosophy degree uh, and then tonistic moral theology, so
study the quinas as well. Uh and so yeah, focused
on the natural law uh, and always been fascinated with
American politics and just the true enigma that our country
is and had had a long way around to get
(01:30):
to writing this book. And uh and but here we
are and yeah, excited to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So so why did you write this book? I mean
the title is d Throne, Davos and Save America Because
anytime you talk about the World Economic Forum, everybody has
a negative connotation. So so what led you to write
the book? And then we could talk about, you know,
what is the World Economic Forum and their famous leader
(01:59):
as well, we can mention him who he is and
why he's important.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, I did set out to
write a book, and I've always kind of been an
armchair writer. I write articles and things like that. And
really I was noticing a couple of different cultural trends
and things, particularly in entertainment. And I'll tell you particularly
(02:25):
because when my kids were younger, about a decade ago,
I was trying to pick programming out and watch them.
And so I'm seeing some kids shows that I watched
as a kid and of course didn't get anything out
of it, but even the newer media for kids. You know,
my sin apses are firing off from my education and philosophy,
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and I'm like, whoa like they're teaching these weird concepts
and ideas to kids. And of course this was before
the Obergerfeld decision and before we went off the deep
end with all of the brand new ideologies that have
come to light in the last ten years. But really
that's where it started, where I said, man, and so
(03:10):
I set out to write this book to assuage people
from all of these ideologies that were creeping in. And
we can get into those more and more, but just
to say that it's very contrariant to the way that
our system of government is set up and the understanding
of our rights. And so I'm seeing this slow creep,
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this ideological creep, and of course I immediately latch onto that.
I start working through the political backwater of leftism and
this real radicalism that was coming to a head. And
of course now they just say the quiet part out loud,
but through that, through that, I started navigating and really
got to a point where I said, you know, this
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is businesses acting this way. It's politicians, it's the mainstream media,
all of these people. It doesn't make sense for them
to be in such ideological lockstep with each other unless
there's a bigger game at play, and that's really where
I got more than I bargained for. And so, you know,
a lot of a lot of research, a lot of
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looking into it, a lot of understanding these players, but
really realizing that it's truly a global apparatus, that it's
at play that is seeking to reimagine the world in
its own image. And they've got enough money and power
and enough streams to pull in enough places all throughout
governments throughout the world, especially ours, through the economy, through
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the culture, and through the media. And yeah, they're a
little bit further along in their plans most people want
to admit. So so, how did you know we've got
to wake up fast?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It was the World Economic Forum? Did you know that?
Did you start out realizing that's who is behind all
of this? I mean, because you have some strong I
mean you talk about that your book is the blueprint
and that I guess the World Economic Forum wants like
one government for the whole world by twenty thirty, which
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is scandalous to me. So how did you land on
World Economic Forum that they're the bad guy?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah? Well, one of the greatest sign posts was this
really highly produced promotional video that they pumped out there
and obviously went straight to production and didn't field tests
at first. But they were these eight predictions is what
they called them, and I think they're probably a little
more veiled threat than prediction. But you know, one of
(05:40):
the very first things, it's very first prediction in this
video is that you will own nothing, but don't worry
about it. You'll be happy, you know, And that's you
got to have the audacity of the devil himself to say,
don't worry. Let me manage and own everything for you.
And I'll let you have your experiences and what you
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what you deserve, right, let me decide for you. And
so I really started looking into the World Economic Forum,
and in the book I describe it this way. I
think it's the best way to say it is the
World Economic Forum itself. It's founded by klausch Fob And
you know, Bill Gates has a lot of interactions with
the World Economic Forum. They're on their Davos festivus this week.
(06:25):
You know, I joked earlier that the Swiss air is
full of jet fuel, the smell of jet fuel and
cheap perfume. As the world elite and their gaggle of
hookers descends on I.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Did read about it last year, so that's what cracks
me up. All the billionaires playing in on their jets.
And then, as you said, it's like the it's like
also the World Economic Forum, you know, gathering of prostitutes.
So it's huge for those that don't follow the World
Economic Forum.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, but yeah, the World Economic Forum represents this front
facing office. It's like they're Apple stores, you know. They
have all these articles and they tell you that they're
that transhumanism is a beautiful thing and we're going to
step into the new future where you're going to upload
your brain to the cloud. They talk about all of
these NGOs and all of this good that they're doing
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for the world, and claud Schwab and Euviul Hurrari and
these people that they're pretty wealthy, you know, I'm sure
they're millionaires. They're the intellectual priestly class that's supposed to
sell this idea of reimagining the world order and it
being a good thing. Of course, the real power behind
the throne or who I identify in the book as
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the Thrones of Davos, and those people you're never going
to see at the Forum, you know, they're never going
to be on Forbes's Top one hundred Riches people list.
They pay not to be on that list because you know,
they don't measure their wealth in dollars like Elon Musk does.
They weigh their wealth in terms of power and control.
And so really capitalized on that World Economic Forum because
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it's that forward facing marketing arm that's really trying to
sell their plans for world domination right open in plain sight.
And the more people they can get to buy into it,
and the more people think that it's a safe and
good and progressive thing for the world, more power can
be grabbed and more inevitable is their soft to their
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soft takeover and it being a success.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So where do you see the split? You know, you
have the conservative what i'd call conservative loosely philosophy, you know,
Edmund Burke, John Locke, you know, the idea of the individual.
You know, where did that get destroyed? And this Davos thing.
Are these people just do they think they're so much
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smarter than the rest of the world. I mean, is
it hubrious on their part? But I mean we've kind
of transformed from that philosophy in the seventeen eighteen hundred
know to this weird, weird stuff that we have with
the Daubos crown.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
And yes, absolutely, and that's something that I really focused
on in the book. It's one of the central themes
is the concept of relativism. And you know that's a word,
you know, that's fancy philosophy word. Practically speaking, what relativism
is is a denial of the concept of truth. So
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more precisely, relativism is the denial of value judgments. So
there's no such thing as capital B beauty. Beauty is
purely in the eye of the beholder. You know, there
is no capital T truth with a trademark over it.
It's just your truth and my truth. And we all
just float in the ether man. And you know, sometimes
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the sounds we call this the woke point of view.
And for all of the things you can say about wokeness,
it always marketed to us. Is this more tolerant, more understanding,
less rigid, beautiful worldview. But ultimately, what happens in relativism
is it destroys morality. It destroys the concept of God
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and that we're all beholden to God and our rights
come from God. Instead, it's the idea of whoever can
impose their reality onto the world. Deserves to define reality,
and no amount of the shared reality that we're all
living in, no amount of that is ever going to
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dissuade them from trying to carry the revolution or carry
their visions of grandeur and try to make it so.
And you know, I know that a lot. That's a
whole mouthful, but the political philosophy that we see, especially
in the radical left, where they, you know, we're trying
to redefine biology. We're trying to redefine all of these things.
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And we can just throw more money and more compassion
and more good feels at the situation and it's just
going to magically get solved. And that we can deny
and defy what it means to be a human person
and what it means to live in a fallen world
and how best to orient a government or a society
towards those immutable characteristics of reality. Uh. You know that
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that uniquely American concept that we have is just being
completely eroded by the progressive vision of relativism. And we
can get into a little bit more about how relativism
is Marxism and critical theory. You can see where it's
destructivist in nature.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, I can't even say that word. I'm trying to
practice it before the shot.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So is this so?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Is this?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You know, you have you have objective truth out there?
Do these people not believe objective truth? You know? I
mean understand, I understand their their manipulating subject of truth
to get to get to their end. But but I mean,
are are these are these aren't stupid people? Okay? And well, and.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I want to piggyback on that question, John, because Teddy,
why why do the billionaires and millionaires join the World
Economic Form? It's sounding very cultish to me, you know,
because I don't want to be just one one global entity.
I want everybody to be their own. And you talk
about in the book, how you know America taking us
(12:34):
down the number one thing? So why why are they
joining this? Is it a cult? The World Economic Form?
I mean, what is the attraction that everybody's running, you know,
chasing this? The founder class?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Mm hmm, yeah. That is one of the interesting things
people are always saying, Oh, I can't this is just
a conspiracy theory. There'd be too many people that have
to be in on it, you know, And really, the
the ideology of relativism and how they view the world
is what pulled them together. You know, if everybody, no
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matter if they're a millionaire, a billionaire, or the trillionaires
behind the throne, you know, behind the organization, no matter
who they are, they're all believing in, at least in
some degree, that they can remake the world in their image.
And of course the lower people on the totem pole,
like Bill Gates, like Klaus Schwab, they're really aligned in
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their ideology and so they believe that. And whether or
not they're just joining because they think it's the inevitable
outcome of the future, I'm sure there are several that
are just doing that. But certainly this following this ideology
rejecting God, rejecting the concept of an ultimate truth, and
just giving into that temptation. You know, relativism is the
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theology of the devil. The devil is the first one
to say, no, I will not serve God. I have
seen your vision, your be a tific vision, and I
reject it. And so if it's a constant temptation to
humans to say, well, I know that that's true or
that's the right thing to do, but it's more expedient,
it's more convenient to do this. And so if you
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erase God from your framework, then then it's just a
power struggles. You know, it's just what is most expedient.
How can I garner my most the most power that
I can? And as you know, as you become more
detached from the world, as you become richer, and the
human problems become smaller and smaller in your mind, that's
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that is a powerful opiate that leads you in very
dark ways. And I think that's what connects most of
these people.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Well, well, is it because like the millionaires want to
be on the coattails of the billionaires and they just
think it's like this cool club, you know, but I
don't know. I mean Amazon, Bezo's he's Amazon, you know,
selling me things.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Bill Gates is always pushing his agenda. I don't know.
I don't understand why these people think that they can
take over the world with what they want. That's my frustration, right.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, yeah, and a lot of that does come to
Like I said, you know, when you get I am
sure that Bill Gates, he goes around You can listen
to his speeches and talk and everything. He sounds like
he's talking about humans like chattel, you know, as the commodity.
The way he speaks is very utilitarian, just most good
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for the most amount of people. And of course that
creates a lot of moral problems and moral quandaries, and
it makes a lot more sense in the more of
the collectivist framework, and not really in the concept of
what it means to be an American. You know, rightly understood.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It just about being an American. Or do you think
that this has roots in the religious decline of religious
activity and beliefs around the world.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, I think those are deeply, deeply connected. And in
chapter six I try to articulate, is best I can,
the concept of what it means to be an American.
And frankly, if you read what the Founders wrote, if
you read their letters to each other, and certainly read
the Declaration and the Constitution, the idea that there was
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a God that existed, who was our creator and endowed
us with our rights, that is a fundamentally American position,
and it's both established in the natural law, in the
rational understanding of God, and then of course the natural law.
You can't really separate that from from the religious connotations
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and saint, you know, and Thomas Kleinus, who who is
the one who coined the term in the Summa Theologica.
So I think that as we decline as a country
in religiosity, and as we lose our faith and belief
in the fact that there is a God and that's
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the source of our rights, obviously, the more untangled of
our security and our safety and our understanding of the constitution,
you know, the more that's just going to unravel over time.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So you talk about the Great Reset and the World
Economic Forms Agenda. So I've been looking prepping for the interview.
I mean, they're they're talking about the Intelligent Age. You know,
everybody's so worried about AI and and because the rapid
growth of technology. Uh so, so tell me about this
(17:52):
Great Reset? And do I need to be concerned that
they're talking about you know, I guess the technological advances
that are happening out there that everybody's AI is the
word that everybody says every two.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Minutes, right right, Well, that is I try to remain
as objective, and I can tell you not with a
great deal of exactitude. You know, I don't know, they
haven't telegraphed any specifics. I'll just put it that way.
(18:27):
But I do know that the Great Reset and the
year twenty thirty is something that constantly comes up in
the rhetoric that's pumped out by the World Economic Forum. Again,
that's their sales pitch, you know, And so they're saying
by twenty thirty, these huge paradigm shifting, world shifting events
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are going to take place by twenty thirty. And I
don't know how far down the conspiratorial rabbit hole you
managed to go, but I did mention an author, a
Canadian author who wrote back in nineteen ninety four. He
wrote this book called Project Blue Beam, and in Project
Bluebeam he predicted what was going to happen and has
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basically said that an organization like NASA is going to
work with the international intelligence community five eyes to create
this event. They're going to use all kinds of technology,
you know, technology that the military knows about, that not
even regular everyday Americans know about, and they were going
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to use that to simulate something like the Second Coming
or this just huge life altering event. And so I
don't know if it's going to be some sort of
physical cataclysm, if it's going to look like some sort
of religious second coming event or if it's going to
be you know, we've had all of this telegraphing of
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UAPs and UFOs, and so is it going to be
this event where they say, oh, well, aliens of landed
they're going to communicate to us. Either way, we're going
to have to be very prepared for some type of
event like that, because you think about it, if we're
if we're not going to own anything, they're going to
own the world, and they're going to create this soft coup,
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you know, where the United Nations becomes both truly international
and mandatory, and they're going to reimagine the world and
their image where they can control what we eat and
control what medical services we can have, and what we
can own and not own, and create this global digital currency.
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It's going to be some type of world altering event,
and it is going to be this call for international
collaboration to solve that problem. And so, you know, we
individual speculations aside. This is what they're telegraphing over and over,
is that that's the plan. And I don't know if
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Trump being re elected accelerates that moves their tideline up
to town.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
We will get to Trump. Yeah, because he's actually going
to be video leaking linking into the world's economic forum.
So I find that interesting because you know, today it's
been twenty four hours. It's a Trump world. I want
to say, Daddy's back, and twenty thirties right around the corner.
I mean, there's so much in your book that you
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talk about.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Can I give you a quick follow up on it?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Go ahead, John?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Do you think COVID was a dry run for that
that that world event that you were talking about.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yes, I definitely think so. And it's easy to get
conspiratorial or to pretend that this is going to be
some giant, isolated event. But I think with COVID, uh,
and then I think with the housing crisis of two
thousand and eight before that, the dot com bubble, and
certainly even going back to something like the Great Depression.
(21:55):
Is you have to look at it through the right lens,
but you really start to see all of these is
being lesser resets leading up to it, and with the
way that it was just a perfectly choreographed response all
the way through. Everybody was an ideological lockstep with each other.
You know, I don't believe in that level of coincidences
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and especially when you look at the fact that it
was the largest transfer of wealth from lower and middle
class up to that trillionaire class. You know, it begs
credulity at that point. I believe that's how you.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Say that, Oh that's a big word. Well, you talk
about the Federal Reserve's role, So so what is their
role in this mess?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, Well, the Federal Reserve is about as federal as
federal expresses. It is a private banking cartel. There's a
ur L in the book. The book is worth a
purchase all by itself to get that URL, and you
can see the names of the people and their private
banks that underwright the US dollar through the Federal Reserve.
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And so the control of the world's reserve currency is
a huge part of their plan and another one of
those strings that they pull on and make sure that
the world when they put their thumb on the scale
to affect the outcome, that the world moves. And so
the sheer control of the Federal Reserve and the International
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Monetary Fund being ultimately you know, we say that America
is thirty six close to thirty seven trillion dollars in debt,
and as long as America can pay off that debt
somehow we get to keep our sovereignty. But really the
truth of the matter is those private banks underwrite the
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Federal Reserve and therefore their policy along with America's government
borrowing that amount of money. This just gives you ideas
their power. They don't mind being thirty seven trillion dollars
in debt because ultimately, if America goes bankrupt, they flit
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the bill, their banks cover the loss, and then that
means that the country of America is in a bargaining
or bartering system with these private banks for trying to
come up with the assets to pay it off. But
the Federal Reserve is just the main functionary to have
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power and control and to put America into a debt spiral.
And I think it's not a threat, but it's a promise.
You know that we live in this unsustainable system of
just borrowing and borrowing and borrowing, and that lets you
know that this was never meant It's not sustainable and
it was never designed to be sustainable. It's leading towards something, right,
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What is that? Something that's a hard truth that we're
going to have to look at.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, you have this this little cute little graph chart
in the book which I have to comment on. It's
the nineteen seventy one cost of living. And I think
what pushed me over the edge was I paid seven
dollars for a dozen eggs yesterday and I was literally mortified.
And this was at a cheap grocery outlet is what
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we call this store. And guess how much they were,
John forty five cents in nineteen seventy one, So that
pushed me over the edge, Teddy, because and then you've
got bacon was eighty cents a pound. It's ten dollars now.
And it's funny because you have the average new house
was twenty five k. My grandparents bought a house in
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Salaitte Beach, Florida in nineteen seventy and I think they
paid like thirty k. So and in the average income,
this one's hysterical ten thousand dollars. So, I mean, how
did we get from this madness? Now that I'm paying
seven dollars? And then John knows I have a whipped
cream issue because my dog's like puppaccinos and it's seven
(26:02):
buck for whipped cream. I mean, I'm losing. I want
to go back to this nineteen seventy, a movie ticket
was a dollar fifty forty cents for gas, John for
the gallon so and then eight cents for a postage stamp.
I don't even know how much a damn postage stamp
is these days, because they don't tell me. It's this
mystery book that I buy that is supposedly good for life.
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I'm probably paying ten dollars a stamp. At this point.
That was my favorite graph because you push me over
the edge, Teddy with the eggs forty five cents, I'm like,
are you kidding me? I mean, are we going to
be able? You know, because you talk about all of
these billionaires, you know, Bill Gates pushing his let's eat bugs.
(26:45):
I'm over that. I just don't think by twenty thirty
these people are going to have a grasp on me.
And one of your big you say two things in
the book that intrigued me was that this is not
a Democrat or Republican manifesto. And then the most important
thing that you pointed out in the book is that
this is spiritual. It's a spiritual battle. And then is
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that the thing everybody at World Economic Forum? Because I
talk about this, John and I talk about this all
the time. Our world is missing God and faith and family,
and why do I It sounds like these billionaires and
millionaires are missing it too, So so yeah, why is
it a spiritual battle? Are these all faithless people because
they're loaded?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well, I think that certainly contributes to it. But you're
exactly right. The reason that it's a spiritual battle is,
you know, most of the time, if we're all functioning
in the same framework, if we all are striving towards
the same standard, we can you know, we can have
a great amount of diversity in thought and how we
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go about our lives and how we're all getting to
the same place. Right. But as we as this political divide,
which you know, I think Trump in his inauguration and
having the endorsement of Democrat you know, Lifer Powerhouse Family
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RFK endorsing him as well as Topy Gabbard, and you're
and you're starting to see the line of splitting from
right politics, party politics versus Democrat party politics, and this
it's just making strange bedfellows and strange divides. And I
think that's where really where we've come to. Uh, And
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that's what I would pause. It is We've gotten to
this point where we have enough people who have bought
the Boss a lie, have drunk the kool aid of
this modern liberalism, which is rooted in relativism, and they
just feel like they don't need God. They're rich and
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powerful enough they can do these types of things. They
control industries that just piles through the media, you know.
And so what we're experiencing is not two different visions
for how we get to the same place and make
a successful America anymore. What we're dealing with is a
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very a tip of the sphere, a very radical group
within the Democrat Party, the Progressive Party that have gained
an outsize amount of institutional control in our fourth branch
of government and our regulatory state. And they're the darlings
of the media. And so it feels like their narrative
is truth itself, but what they are is reality Itself'll
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be fair to them because they don't believe in truth,
but they think that they set reality. And they if
you're high on your own supply, and you think that
you can manifestly change someone's gender merely by wishing it so,
or you can change the nature of productivity, and that
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you can create a welfare system or a collectivist system.
You know, when you've bought into it and you're that
ideologically committed, that person is probably not actively thinking I'm
worshiping Satan, right, that's not what's.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Going on, And you do mention him in the book.
That word always scares me. So I was reading really
fast through the Satan words that were in the book.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Evil exists. Evil is real, you know, and yes, absolutely
it twists people, and and you know the thing that
you're you're mentioning it, it's not these people don't care
what the outcome is. You know, that's that's irrelevant to
you know, the end result climate change. You know, we're
going to do all this stuff. We're going to stop
CEO two do da da da da. And it's like, well,
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whether you stop c T two or not is is
not really important. What's important is you know you have tried.
You know, we did something and the results be damned,
and it's leading. You know, they've gone so far left.
And you know, four or five years ago I started
the from my observations in politics that we're going to
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see a third party. For me, that that you know,
these people on the Democrats are are so far to
the left that most of the Democrat Party that has
a brain still has a brain and understands reason that
they're not wanting to be the right right leaning Republicans.
And you've got Republicans and and what I call the
Maga Republicans, the people that want to make America great again,
(31:30):
not not the Bush type you know, uh uh, you
know Davos type Republicans is a good way to describe, right.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah. And you're getting this third party now, and it's
the Maga Party and it's pulling from the middle.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay, Well, I've been mega for a really long time. Yeah,
I hate because people don't like me because I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
So mega right, and it's and it's results. It's results
oriented number one. Results matter, Yes, And I think that's
a huge shift that were seeing in politics right now.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Well, Teddy, can we change these people because if they
don't believe in God, I mean, because you say some
strong things in there that like if you don't let
me see I wrote it down here about God, like
if you what did you say?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Right, if you don't think they are divinely I guess
I write this right, it's instructed by God or inspired
by God. I can't read my handwriting, but you mentioned
that God's part of it, and so obviously these people
are missing that, especially when you read about communism and Marxism.
You know, none of these people that push that were
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God people for sure. So why is it so important
that God's part of this? I mean, how do I
change these people? And you know, end this madness? I
don't want one one world system and then I have
to wait in line for bread and pay you know,
more than seven bucks for eggs, because that's pushing me
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to the edge already.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I do make a very clear distinction
in the book that if you took the progressive vision
world economic form and all laid it out for people,
no matter if they identified as moderate, right of center,
left of center, if you did a man on the
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street and asked, do you accept this as your political platform?
I don't think you get ten percent of the country
to really, you know, buy it, hook line and sinker.
And so I have a lot of ire and a
lot of things to say about the leadership of the
Democrat Party and whether they're allowing the progressives to kind
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of rule over their narrative and what they bring up
and what they passed, but that leadership has a very
very different level of accountability to say just the regular
voter and for most of the country, I would you know,
you're going to have people pushing one way and people
pushing another way, and ultimately the great disaffected middle right,
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the people who want to have a successful country, have
a better economy for their kids than they had, have
more opportunities. You know, that's really the sentiment think of
exactly to your point, I think the majority of the
country wants sensible leadership, They want results driven leadership, and
(34:26):
that used to be marketed as the Democrat Party, and
as they've gotten crazier and crazier and crazier, especially this
last election shows, you know, the majority of Americans for
the first time since I think Reagan voted and gave
the popular vote to Trump, and who again to your point,
(34:47):
does not represent the established Republican powers. And I'll just say,
you know that divide I think is coming. And a
picture is worth a thousand words. And you and take
still shots of nearly any moment of Trump's inaugural address yesterday,
and you have the Clinton's, the Bushes, the Obamas, and
(35:10):
the Bidens cringing at everything.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, she looked awful because she was wearing a jacket
that was twelve times too big. I think she borrowed
it from Hillary and then she was all like like
almost a ball in that chair.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Talk about the talk about the modern divide in American politics,
and we're living through the snapping in the paradigm shifts
as we speak, and I think that the you'll start
seeing a lot of establishment Republicans start to push back
against Trump and his agenda. And that's really where we're
at now. We're it's we the people versus this dirty
(35:55):
DC apparatus, this establishment that's inside the DC Beltway, and
it has more allegiance to globalism and to this you know,
these kumbay y'all feelings of liberal utopia. Than then they
have to we the people. And that's that's the battle.
That's the battle that we're going to see over the
(36:16):
next four years. I think.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So Teddy back to that statement because you say in
the book it's not a dem or Republican manifesto. But
but I mean, I'm finding this. I mean, the book's great,
it's it's it's easy to understand. You have that graphic
that made me mad. You know, how have you always
been political? I mean because to me, it's it's a
(36:38):
conservative read because you talk about Wall Street too, you know,
and and all of these you know Nato. I mean,
you mentioned all of these things that that I talk about.
But were you political before? I mean, how do you
get to this point? Because obviously you're a godly man
because you mentioned that throughout there being being a believer
(37:02):
of God? Make you political on the on the right side,
I mean, describe who you are and how this I
mean because this book to me leans as a Republican.
I read it like this as a book for my team.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yes, I would agree, And I don't pretend to be
completely unbiased. Definitely a huge supporter of Donald Trump. Uh,
you know, three time Trump voter. So I won't pretend
that I'm somehow above the fraid anybody who pretends that
they're just above politics are there. They become unwitting allies
(37:39):
of the people who want to upset the world order
the most, you know, because it's like go to I
go to my church and I talk to people and
they don't want to talk politics, and I'm like, okay,
so we're both pro life. You and I fellow churchgoer,
but now I have to fight the pro choice people.
And and you're in, you know, in your unwillingness to
(38:02):
talk about politics. You know, now I have two I
got two people I got to deal with now. And
so I have always been fascinated, like I said, with
the American form of government. It just it's a true
enigma in history. I've always liked history and studying, and
(38:22):
then philosophy is the study of human thought, and so
that's that's really where I approach politics from. And I
have a deep reverence for America how it was founded,
just the fact that it was founded at all. You know,
we should have had King Washington. We should be having
what George Washington to eights right on the throne of America,
(38:45):
had we followed the normal and typical way of the world.
And so I think really seeing what the radical progressive
left has been able to accomplish, just my slowly infiltrating
institutions throughout the past century. And then now we're getting
to the part where they say the quiet part out loud,
(39:07):
and we have self avowed collectivists in Congress. You know,
a lot of people are beginning to wake up. But
that really does radicalize you in very specific ways. And
you know, I have kids, and I want my kids
to grow in in America that acknowledges that there's a
creator and that is where we get our rights. And
the government doesn't have the authority or ability to take
(39:31):
those rights from my children and their posterity. And so
you know we're dealing with that.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, well you mentioned Wall Street and corporations. I mean,
is the bottom line it's all about money because they
all have such big bank accounts and they want to
maintain that. And they don't care if there's zero in
our bank account because then they can control us.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Right. And the first section, the first five chapters of
the books, part one, is called It's the Economy Stupid,
you know, and I really try to point to those real,
tangible economic ways in which this cabal of people have
such power. And now, you know, in chapter two, who
Rules the World? Brief walk through history of the amount
(40:15):
of different world leaders and political leaders that have been
famously you know, world rulers or you know, can at
least be described as having conquered the world. And what
we are dealing with now are people who own so
many pieces of a global economy, and we have this
global economy that's never truly in the way that stock markets,
(40:39):
that reserve currencies work and all of these things. It's
never existed before. And they don't control the majority of it,
but they control enough of the individual multinational corporations, the
shipping lanes, the movement of goods and services, and international
trade agreements. You know, that's really their source of their power,
(41:00):
their their technocrats. You know that they rule by virtue
of being able to squeeze companies, uh, squeeze investors, choke
out funding for other different you know, for different businesses
who step out of line. And you know, if if
anybody doubts me on this, you know, I'm sure that
(41:22):
you guys saw in the news about the environmental and
social governance scores for businesses on the Fortune five hundred,
these these social credit scores, Yeah, for for businesses. No,
no business in their right mind would accept something that
is going to hurt the bottom line and the hurt
and hurt the investors. And yet everybody got in line.
(41:44):
Everybody was going to do it and just step into
this thing that was going to hurt hurt their corporations,
hurt their bottom lines and the only people the only
rational explanation to that is somebody who doesn't count their wealth, right,
they don't tell their dollar bills in their bank account.
They're measuring their percentage control of that stock. And so
(42:06):
that goes into the Vanguard, State Street and Blackrock conversation,
three private hedge funds that collective we have over seven
trillion dollars invested into the Fortune five hundred.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Which you don't have a lot of graphs about that too.
That's the thing I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
And State in the state of Florida was you know,
one of the leaders in divesting from the state retirement funds,
you know, black Rock and companies like that that we're
using these these ESG and de I E policies, you know,
because they're the.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
More yeah, yeah, the the more that they have invested
into a company. You know, right now, in the majority
of the Fortune five hundred companies, those three private funds
are the number one, number two, and number three investor.
You just take Caterpillar for example, if Miller said, we're
(43:00):
not doing ESG. We're going to pay diesel engines because
we make power equipment. We're not going to put these
these social credit scores on our company. Well, they could
sell their position in Caterpillar and tank that company overnight,
that Bord will be gone. They'll flip the board and
they'll get some friendlies in there. And you bet the
next the next time around, they're they're going to adopt
(43:23):
the exact policies that that these global technocrats are demanding
that they they adopt.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Okay, well, I want to I want to do a
rapid fire with you because your your ex account's really
fun and so I wanted your thoughts on the Trump
inauguration yesterday.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I thought it was brilliant. I have high high hopes
and uh I hope that he has a quadrupled the
amount of security that he thinks he needs around him
for the next four years.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Very true. And then what about the J six pardons,
because you know, the DC Gulag still has some of
the JA sixers. Hopefully by this after when this airs tonight,
they'll be out, but they weren't letting them out last night.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I can tell you, yeah, yeah, I really did. You know,
it's hard to say all of the violent criminal this
and that, and you just compare what they've already gone
through and whether or not they there was any legitimate
reason other than just being a political prisoner. No release
(44:34):
of all that. That's purely what they were there for.
I think that there is a lot of strong evidence
that it was an inside job. And more than that,
I want to see everybody who was in prison regarding
January sixth make a class action lawsuit against the federal government.
I think that that would be just okay.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
The Biden pardons, which the gift that I knew this happening.
I knew this was coming John, I said it. We
had all his relatives dated back to I think twenty fourteen.
Oh really, you're not criminals. And then we had Lovely
Fauci and then General Millie, which I was glad to
read that they ripped his damn photo. I think it
(45:16):
was out of the Pentagon, off the wall because the
man is such a trader. So what are your thoughts
on on the Biden Party?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Strong opinions here? Urry?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, Well, I think it's a crime against humanity that
Biden has hidden his family and his administration's crimes against humanity. Yeah,
and hope, I hope that they look at the legal
precedent of a preemptive pardon, because there had to be
a crime to get pardoned for. And I've seen a
lot of good posts on X about saying you can't
(45:52):
just say you can't go after this person. That's what
the pardon is. So I want Trump's DOJA to look
in of that and so many bad actors in the
Biden administration. But uh, little rat Fauci deserves far worse
than he's ever going to get.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
You know, to me, Fauchi, and I've said this many
times on the show, that Fauci is the biggest mass
murderer in the history of mankind.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Horrific.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
I mean, yeah, you know that that COVID virus goes
right back to him and his experimenting with transfers to
human from that bad virus that that was Anthony Fauci originated.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yes, and the response that you know, he orchestrated the
response to to set himself up as the tyrant and
the dictator that would bring the Trump administration to heal.
And that's that's that's pretty rough too.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
So Teddy, are you catholic because you wrote I didn't
realize you could write op eds on X. But you
have a brilliant one called the Francis problem. John. He
talks about the Pope.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
John and oh he says.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Why, he says stupid stuff yours with heresy and is
finding new ways to undermine the Church and the age
of the New World Order. So, Teddy, are you a
fellow Catholic like us that is frustrated by the Pope
because this, I mean I was. I was laughing when
I read this, because it's really good. You're a little
op ed here.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, well, I don't know what we're supposed to call
ourselves disenfranchised, but yeah, I'm a Catholic frustrated with our
church leader.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Truth seeking Catholics, that's what we are.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Well, the Vietnamese pope many years ago, when the Pope
wrote that, like then cyclical whatever it was on it was,
I think, wasn't global warming. I can't even remember. I
went to the Pope. I went to the priest and
I was very frustrated. And he was a Vietnamese priest
that had like fled Communism and he goes Ronica. He's
just a man that is not Jesus. So so since
(48:02):
that priest many years ago told me that that's kind
of how I see it, you know, only Jesus was
the non flawed man.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Right, Well, you know, the Pope had an atheist write
his environmental policy, okay, an atheist, and then claim that
it was God God's desire. I'm like, you're you're insane, dude.
You may be the Pope, but you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think that goes back to a
little bit of just the Jesuit outlook, and in that
up added, I certainly think it's worth a read for
anybody interested to really understand what's driving Pope Francis's.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah, well, we talked about this on the show. You
know that that they're you know there. I think there's
a schism coming in the church, you know, between the
European you know, particularly the German Catholics and the African Catholics.
I think, I think, and the US shades towards the
conservative side. There's a lot of there's a lot of
them that are right there with the German guys.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Well, he's a Jesuit from Latin America and that's probably
a part of.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
A commis commy.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yeah, okay, you talk about defending the UN, I'm right
there with you, Teddy.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, as far as well in what part I'm okay
with some parts of the UN, but I don't want
them to become our overlord where the UN policy supersedes
US policy.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
And at who is on track to do that, you know,
is one organization, you know, to your point about about
you know what's coming in twenty thirty. You know, we've
seeded power and I don't I don't know if Trump's
pulled it back yet. But the Biden people were willing
to see to seed our sovereignty to the World Health
Organization for the next global crisis.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Yeah, that was that was some scary stuff, and not
enough people were We're hip to the jive on that.
So I hope, I hope this time if if it's
a bird flu or whatever, they're going to come up
with next and sell to us as the next big thing.
I'm really I'm hopeful, but certainly looking for a lot
(50:18):
more people to stand up and say no this time
are out.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
What about NGOs because they always seem to play a
hand also with the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, that it's it's very unfortunate, and I think that
NGOs are really the logical extension of the way that
we allow lobbyists and these large organizations to lobby our government.
And you know, I write about this in the book
as well. Most of the NGOs that the sieve government
(50:53):
our tax dollars, you know, they are allowed to begin
in the tax dollars because they support the globalist vision.
And so there are a lot of Catholic charities on
the border right now that are facilitating the illegal migration.
And you know that goes all the way up to
Pope Francis criticizing America for daring to have a you know,
(51:16):
an immigration policy, and so yeah, these these NGOs end up, well,
we're seeing it with the funding in Ukraine. We're seeing
it with just purposely not enforcing the law on the border.
I think so many people are waking up and realizing
that this globalist vision, like you have to kind of
(51:37):
buy into the globalist vision if you want to be
effective within the government and in these NGOs that are
propped up by the government, and that's how you get
your funding. And people are starting to wake up and realize, hey,
we don't need to be spending money on this. Our
infrastructure here is falling apart. You know, they are homeless veterans.
That's just unforgivable, and you know, we we've got work
(51:59):
to do here. We've got problems here that we need
to resolve and take care of. We need to stop
especially going into debt to fund the globalist vision and
to fund the CIA's war monitoring throughout the world.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
And I find I find that that particularly your your
point and the war monitoring is certainly you know, and
that's one thing I like about Trump. You know, these
adventures are going to stop, you know, sending American troops
overseas to fight other people's wars, you know, for economic
benefit of these world organizations. You know that that needs
(52:36):
to stop. And I think Trump Trump's hip to that,
as you say, and and and and I think we'll
see some changes there. Where do you where do you
see the World Health Organization playing a role in in
these I mean, is this a coordinated you have? You have?
You have the Davos crowd.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
I've read some stuff about the Federal the Federal Reserve. I'mever,
if you've ever read the book about Jackal Island and
the creation of the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
You know, that's a great.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Excellent book, you know, And and where did this where's
all this coming from? I mean, is are we talking
like one hundred years worth of worth of just progressivism,
and this is the ultimate commolation of that, you know,
that is it?
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah, I think that's very fair to say. We had,
through the progressive era, going all the way back to
the early nineteen hundreds, to carry some of that history
and bring that narrative forward in the book. And of
course we had this great culture upheaval in the nineteen sixties,
and it was the injection of what I call modern liberalism,
(53:48):
not to be confused with any sort of classical liberal view,
but it was this new relativistic bend of why and
I describe it as the Beach Boys song Wouldn't It
Be Nice? You know, the modern liberals wanted to put
Wouldn't It Be Nice? On repeat and just continue to
knock down these guardrails that were put up and said, hey,
(54:11):
the government's got a function in this direction, and if
it doesn't, you're going to lose the plot, You're going
to lose the path. And just why not, Ah, don't
be stodgy, you don't you know, why can't I do
this and do this and question this moral certitude and
this social policy. Let's just knock it all down and
(54:32):
really get our hands on this thing and see how
we can bring it forward into the new world. And
that sort of thinking pulled in and allowed progressivism to
take very strong institutional power. It was a form of
relativism that America could swallow or deal with, while this
true collectivist, Marxist minded progressivism infiltrated the institutions. And then
(54:58):
now we're seeing that that liberal world order. Like I
said earlier, it was never meant to be sustainable. It
was meant to be a cover for the Marxists to
gain control. And the Marxists are being driven by the
globalists because they're you know, the Marxists talk about people
who are Marxist sympathizers. They call them useful idiots, you know,
(55:22):
the people who are willing to do their dirty work
for them and argue with their families about why communism
is better than any other form of government. And what
the globalists have done is co opted these these ideologues,
these collectivist ideologues, to infiltrate and take over these institutions
of power in America and throughout the West. But ultimately
(55:42):
they are useful idiots to the World Economic Forum, who
ultimately has the economic control, and they pull the strings,
and so what they will end up having is these
despotic regimes, these heavy, top down bureaucratic regimes that rule
you from on high and the capital city and throughout
the world America and Europe and throughout the world. And
(56:04):
they can if they can make a mandatory un So,
all the countries are still going to be named that
their names, the states will be their names. But we'll
have this ultimate rule by expert class in Davos, and
then it will be the function of the governments of
the world to tell us plebeians how we're going to live.
And now policy is going to.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Affect I'm not doing it, And you said, useful idiot,
And AOC kept popping it into my head, AOC because
she wouldn't go to the inauguration, and then she kept
making little videos with no makeup on. And there's certain things,
Teddy that pushed me to the a edge.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
Ac ronica when when you know, speaking of AOC, you know,
when I first heard about the Green New Deal, I
was laughing my ass off. I was literally like, this
is insanity. Who in their right mind would come up
with this? And the next thing you know, the Biden
idiots have passed it.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Yes, because Teddy John and I talk. We are like,
we're like Trumpers, We're twenty four to seven people. I
don't have the bank account of these people, but I'm
always unfortunately, I'm wired to save the world. And then
all of these people that are lazy are always trying
to take my money and telling me what to do
with it, you know, and what shot I need to get,
(57:20):
which you know. But what if we missed today, Teddy?
Because I've thoroughly enjoyed the book, because it can be geeky,
you know, when you're talking about I can't say that
word RelA to visit. I can't say that word. I
can't say it. And then talking about global control, their
Federal Reserve, you know, I mean the bottom line, I
(57:41):
think they're missing God. But what if we missed today?
Why should people run out and get your book? It's
very enjoyable, and I wanted to say you mentioned you
talked about Sonsu, who's a wonderful warrior. I mean, you
mentioned these warriors throughout the book. So I was excited
because I love his book is one of my favorites. Actually,
But we've been talking about d Throndavos save America. What
(58:03):
have we missed today? Because we have to save America.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Well, absolutely we do. And I think it's just to
make a closing argument for the book. First of all,
like I said, you can find out who actually owns
the world. There's a url in the book. The book
is worth its weight right there. Go out and get
it so you can know who you're would be globalist
overlords are, but we are going to defeat them. And
(58:31):
the book does really articulate the proper vision for America,
proper right ordering for how we can come together as
this new party and separate ourselves from the established powers
that really have turned their back on us as a
nation and as we the people, and we're the sovereigns.
You know, we are Americans and uniquely among the world,
(58:55):
we are citizens. We are not subjects of our country.
D Throne Davos is your ultimate blueprint and you can
get as far in the weads as you want to.
With the philosophical conversation. It brings clarity to the political
conversation and really who those bad actors are and ultimately
where their bread's buttered. And you can also get into
(59:16):
the economics and really understand the true nature of who
owns what and who the real planners are, and so
it's an ultimate guidebook for us to understand where we
are being led and where we want to go and
where we want to go forward as a country maintaining
our freedom and our true American spirit. So please, yeah,
(59:39):
go get the been a pleasure, Yeah, bec I'm a
happy warrior with us.
Speaker 1 (59:43):
D Throne, Davos, Save America. Teddy Pears, It's on Amazon
and you are on x It's Teddy P for Patriots
seventeen seventy six and I can't wait to have you back. Teddy.
It's been such a joy having you on Vronic Alive today.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
It's been my pleasure, so thankful, and yes we will
have to do it again.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Fight
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