March 26, 2024 • 40 mins
This episode of voiceless behind bars focuses on the tragic case of Brendan Depa. Sarah passionately urges listeners to advocate for Brendan's mercy in the face of impending judgment. Armed with new information about the presiding judge, Terence Perkins, Sarah implores the audience to take action. With heartfelt sincerity, Sarah and Ana acknowledge the gravity of Brendan's actions while emphasizing the importance of compassion and understanding.
Ana Quiñones, is a well respected activist and runs the nonprofit, WecU Human Justice Organization.
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Ana Quiñones, is a well respected activist and runs the nonprofit, WecU Human Justice Organization.
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who is the CEO and founder ofWe See You Human Justice Corporation, and
the CEO and founder of Lunchtime wasaut and she is the head advocate for
Brendan Debra, who is uh whowe're going to be fighting for. Oh,
you work today and uh But beforewe get any further, Anna Adam,
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could you all please introduce yourself.Yes, Hi, Sarah. First
of all, I wanted to thankyou for giving me the opportunity to go
come on your platform. I haveto love you so I've been seeing you
for a while out there, sothank you us the great work and my
well, my name is Anakonis,as you mentioned, I'm CEO and founder
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of We See You Human Justice Organizationand lunchtime with Anna. We're here to
talk about Brendan. I'm doing reallygood today. I'm doing really good,
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Justice Organization. Can you tell mea little bit about wook work? Yes,
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so we thy Human Justice Organization wasfounded back I think I'm almost positive
it was like twenty eighteen. Thereason why you used to use Human Justice
Organization was founded was because I havea son who's autistic ADHD autism and had
a major speech delay later diagnosed withthe proxya you used to have that Biloki.
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So he has special needs and itwas a long a fight trying to
get him is and just get himthe minimal that he needed. And I
had to teach myself a lot ofthings, and a lot of these things
are very expensive. At that time, I couldn't afford it, you know,
I couldn't afford an advocate coming andsitting in the school meeting for an
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So what we ended up doing wasI ended up teaching myself and teaching
myself and reading and reading and readingand reading and reading, reading, and
so later on I became an advocatefor that. When I originally opened up
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the organization, it was strictly goingto be for special needs and the elderly,
but I guess the joke was onme because human means everybody. So
today the majority of my cases arelifers, lifers or anybody facing sentences like
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that seems to be what always comesto the table for me. It's almost
like a natural calling for that.You know. I can't even explain it.
It's like they just, you know, the referrals are crazy sending me
emails called you know, you pleasewithout my case and all that good stuff.
So that's really the background on wesee you, you know, and
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we're here. We're here so strong. Howd you get involved with all Brinin's
case? So I'm connected to anotherorganization and shout out to Tawanda Graves.
She's doing wonderful things out there forthe missing and exploited Childrenanda Tuanda Graves is
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she's also an activist, and she'sI guess, always on different sites and
she just so happened to run acrossthe story on Brendan Deppa and she tagged
me on it. You know,autistic boy facing thirty years and I'm like,
oh yeah. So I started doingresearch. I found out there was
a court date last August or September. I can't really remember off the top
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of my head that date, themonth or whatever, But so I drove
down to Florida. Right now,I'm in Georgia, and I drove down
to Florida. When to Flagler County, which is a very conservative county.
We'll leave it there. And whathad happened was when I was sitting in
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court, it was just like wow, but we'll get into all of that,
you know. I don't want tojump the gun. But Brenda is
facing three years in prison all andhe's got all well three autism, he
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has oppositional fine disorder ODD and Imeant an explosive disorder, mood, this
regulation disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, anxiety of ADHD. At this time
that all this all he had beltdown. I'll attacked the parapedessional, which
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no, we're not making excuses forbut there were things that should have been
avoided. But when it's happened,wasn't he on thirteen different medications with varying
slide effects. So and yes,okay, his attack and again my my
heart goes out to Jones. Wereprofessional in this case, you know,
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as an activist, so I haveto do the right thing. No one
is justifying his part in this.In fact, Brendan Deppa has been sitting
in county jail now for thirteen monthsfrom this a million dollar on a million
dollar bond, and he's autistic.Most people in these situations, they don't
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have these these long time sitting inthe county jail. It's been very hard
for him to transition, as youcan imagine with the disability. However,
the saraph whom was the same onewho had him arrested and you know,
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gave him a million dollar bond,I will say it's been very helpful with
a program that has really benefited Brendanwhile he's been in county jail. I
do I do want to say thatbrenda'sn't really trying to do the right thing.
You know, we all make mistakes, we all make mistakes, So
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yeah, really heartbreaking. But hewas on thirteen medications. But I'm not
saying on antime medication by any means, but these medications like had varying slight
effects, and he's been like ona lot of them throughout the years,
and and I feel like a psychiatristnever really sat him down and said,
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Okay, this is what you need. And he's been like all different ones
throughout the years. And I correct. So, yeah, So what had
happened was we all we all thingswent cool, cool for all of us
when COVID happened. What it wasbecause I remember with having certain behaviors,
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and I remember, we've also gotto keep in mind pupil, the teenagers.
We got to keep all of thisin mind, you know. So
there was certain behaviors that maybe themedications that were working at one point were
not working anymore. I'm not surethe exact detail, but you know,
I'm making that assumption. And I'llsay that never spoken to the depth of
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family and they said that. However, what they did say was that because
of COVID, he started a programover I believe it was in North or
South Carolina. And what happened wasthey put them all these medications and COVID
happened, So then they never figuredout what worked and what didn't work for
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Brendan. What ended up happening wasthey kept them on the medications, which
I know one of them I think, well, butren causes like depression,
outbirth, hallucinations, and there wasa few of them that I saw with
hallucinations. So I want people tokeep this in mind. And like again,
we're not justifying his actions. However, things triggered the situation that he's
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in today. So like I said, the family tried their hardest during COVID,
but it's just nothing was moving fastenough. And even now after COVID,
what do places where we go anywhere, what do they normally say,
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Well, because of COVID, we'redelayed on this, so we're still behind
on the BOT, you know.So that was the situation with Brendan.
So he was still on at thetime of the incident, thirteen different medications.
Think about it. If it wasyou, I don't even know you
a lift it up, stay upfor that matter. And when he was
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I'll move into a home. Allthey like, he was doing well,
you know in our home, seeliving you know, with a small group
zoom. Well, but they placedhim in a folk school setting despite his
parents' reservations. That was ignored becausehe so he's a sweet person. He
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loves to give hugs, they're exportbut but he just doesn't do well book
settings understandable and but despite that theyare so put him in a public school
and he was not being followed andlike corn yes, so yeah, so
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you know the in the group homeand you know, and I'm gonna rewind
a little bit so that there's anunderstanding. You know, the family had
acted at the time that it wasbest and you know, for their reasoning
for Brendan to be in a grouphome temporarily, and so they didn't transition
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him back home. Well, whattakes place is that Brendan the so and
let me give everybody an insight onthe special needs community because I am a
special needs parent. One of thethings that they do is they'll turn around
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and they'll tell you professionals and Imean counselors, psychologists, stuff like that
on the parent websites, like thegroup parent websites, on social media and
stuff. So they'll tell you justcall the police so that you can get
the systems that you need. Forthem, Well, what happens, mom
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calls the police, you know,anytime they had, you know, any
situation, even if it wasn't big. So Brendan, yes, did have
two charges to felonies, and itcould have been because he broke something in
the house where I don't know theins and outs, but I do know
that the Yarns had to do thatto get the group get him in the
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group home. There was a thirdincident because you know, if you actually
google his name, I know youguys will see the same thing I've seen.
Oh, he was arrested three times. It's not necessarily true because the
parents needed the help, which today, you know, the family says,
I wish I would have never listened, you know, because it's really got
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him in more trouble legally. Right. So the third one was okay,
So a child was bullying him,calling him the N word. Brendan is
black, calling him the N wordand bullying him and even made him drink
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urine out of a bottle, tellinghim it was Mountain zoo. And so
when Brendan defended himself, he thencaught a third felony. Now it was
being booked. Yeah, so Brendan, uh, did what any of us
would do defending ourselves. You know, Like I said, I don't justify
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when we when we do these things, right, violence or anything like that.
However, there's situations where you're leftcornered and you have no choice but
to defend yourself or it's not goingto stop. Right. So at that
point, you know, Brendan didwhat he did, and he defended himself.
I think there was one question thatI missed that you asked details.
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I remember, like he's before Iasked that I wanted to touch on this
real quickly. I'm so lightly broughtit up. He said, you want
to what the no parents you knowwho have kids who are disabled. I'll
you don't call the police. Andbecause I remember reading this, I do
not blame experience. I want tomake that clear. But when our brother,
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oh no again, I don't blamethem, but yeah, but yeah
police, Well yeah, see,my my son himself is, like I
said, autistic. Also Brendan's age, they're in the same grade. So
I really took it personal. Butone of the things is and I and
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I told the depth of family this, I said, I I've been asked
to do the same. I wouldnot because that bad situation might have my
son in jail, and once hefalls into the system, it's really hard
to get him out, you know, nearly impossible. So please, parents,
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please, I'm begging you. Don'tI know there's situations where they get
out of hand. They what theycall the meltdowns. It's not that they're
misbehaving, it's not that they're tryingto do violence, it's not that they're
vioing. They're having a meltdown.Because it all educate yourself, yes,
please do so. So like Isaid that third tellony, yeah, you
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know, you defend yourself. Theother two hell yeah, the other two.
Like I said, a meltdown shouldnot be counted against you, right,
But the parents didn't know what elseto do at the time. So,
and they're wonderful and amazing parents.And I've met both, great,
great folks. For but I'll I'llask you about all this I e P
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all. Prior to this meltdown thathas it in jail, all it was
not being followed at all. Sothere was a fear stipulations on the I
P One of them would do notsend the device or give them any of
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electronic devices. The teacher not theparaprofessional, the teacher, and the classroom
requested that the device be brought toschool for incentives. Now, the IP
says, do not do it underrights law, the federal law. I'm
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not sure of the year of it, but it really it defends their rights.
This is special needs rights and forthem to get a fair education in
school. So under rights law,that's part of it. You know,
the IEP is a legal documents haveto follow the IP or whatever happens.
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Really, how are we holding thechild accountable because that's what he was at
the time, he was seventeen.Why are we holding him accountable when it
wasn't followed in the first place.The second thing is, so the teachers
asked for it, the group whoreluctantly sent it, I wish they wouldn't
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have. Is this Ninder switch?Yeah, the Nintendo switch and I Will
Play hadn't either. Yeah. Andthere was a couple of other things on
the IP. One was, don'tuh embarrass Brendan in front of other people.
If you need to talk to Brendan, pull him to the side because
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of his compulsive explosive explosive disorder.I forget what it's called, but because
of that, it's best to pullthem to the side that was not followed.
The pair of professional was really Idon't want to say booing, right,
I don't want to use that word, but really not following the IEP
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each teacher to the best of myknowledge, especially because this pair of professional
was one on one with Brendan.It's not like she had a group of
kids. She was specifically assigned toBrendan Beva. The problem here is when
did you ever read the IP ifat any point were you able even edgar
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following that IP, because you ifyou would have read it, you would
have known all of these things tonot do, to not trigger what took
place after you know. So longstory short, she kept doing saying negative
things about him because and let melet me rewind back to what he did.
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So Brendan saw that everybody had theirdevices after they were done with their
work. So Brendan, you know, got on his device. Well,
Brendan, you got to wait tillyou finish doing your work, Okay,
so you put it away. Hefinished his work, then he got back
on it. No, Brendan,you you'll, you'll you You're not going
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to get on your device. Sowhy give everybody else an incentive and not
give it to Brendan Because Brendan tookit out a little bit too early,
thinking it was okay to use thedevice, you know, but instead of
being a little more understanding, becauseif she would have ready, she would
have known, okay, this cantrigger certain things. Afterwards, she pretty
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much spoke to the main teacher inthe classroom and I'm from my understanding other
students and was really embarrassing him andit triggered him to then, you know,
call her her name, which hewasn't right for and that's when the
attech happened. So and I'm sorry, I was just asking out. After
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that he was arrested and regrett yes. All. So yeah, so during
the uh, during the attack,I mean I didn't see it at the
beginning when I went to go representBrendon, and I'm gonna tell you why.
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I didn't want to be biased withanybody. I just saw a seventeen
year old who was on who wason a million dollar bill. Okay,
that's all I looked at. Irecently saw the video. It is.
It is pretty detailed, pretty toughto watch. However, there was rules
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there with the I P. Therewas rules there I t wasn't followed and
and I've stressed it so you know, when when it boils down to it,
I uh you know the para professional, Yes, your responsibility was to
read the i P. But thefalk coast to the school district. Mm
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hmm. And I'm going to tellyou why this para professional wasn't completely certified.
It's public records. You're able toask the school district and you all
can see for yourself what dates wasshe actually certified with all the certifications she
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would have needed to work with achild like Brendan with a lot of special
means. The other thing is theteacher in the classroom was not also completely
certified. That the teaching a classwith special needs, she still needed more
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certifications. So who goes at faulthere? Truthfully, it's the school district
in Flagler County and shame on them. Brendan sitting in jail. Oh one
more thing I wanted to add,Sarah, and I think this is very
important. So I started doing researchon children around Brendan's age that may have
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had similar situations. M h Andwhat happened in the same school district.
Really they got a slap in thehands. I saw that too, you
know. And I'm glad you didresearch as well, Sarah, because I
do. I do research when Itake these cases, and I kind of
look at all these things, andso we've got to ask ourselves, is
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he the example? And why shouldwhy should it be Brendan right? You
know, like I said, myheart goes up to him. I was
able to meet him in person.He's just so so articulate, right,
because that's the autism. Right.But then we'll get into detail with what
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happened in court. We'll talk aboutthat, I guess sometime during the interview.
But at the same time so innocent. It was just such so you
got like the best of both worldsand you're like, wow, you know.
So he's a great kid, agreat kid. He really is.
Go ahead, now an adult,he's not a man. And now the
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this is your attorney has a connectionsto the school system. I'm I correct,
Yes, So the district attorney fromFlagger County. I can't think of
her name off the top of myhead. She's not budging. She wants
him to get thirty years for Ithink it's aggravated assault. I'm almost positive
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for thirty years. She's going forthe max. And the reason why is,
you know, she was an educatorherself or or or connected to somebody
in the education system, and soshe more sides with the edge here.
And that's understandable. You know,that's who they bring. You're entitled to
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your opinions. But she's shooting forthe max. Like you said, he's
sat. They're on a million dollarbail right over a year and after two
months. You know, I thinkthat's a long time for somebody to realize
and see what they've done. Ibelieve that in the long run, I
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would have liked to see Joan andthe depth of family unite. Dot that's
her lesson to unite because at theend of the day, just all falls
back of the school district, right, not either party. I mean,
you know, she had her responsibilities, like I say, But at the
same time, you know, Ialso have sympathized with her because I'm also
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more absolutely so I about thirty yearsin President Brendan. That's desicens right,
there was out our doubt and ittruly is so Brendan. I think he's
down to about four medications now,but still he's got needs with medications.
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He's got needs when he you know, it's really hard for him because there
is different types of kids there,you know, and Brendan was homeschooled when
he was younger. He had recentlygone to the public school system, so
it wasn't something that Brendan Brendan isused to, if that makes sense,
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right. Thirty years is a longtime. It's a life sentence. No
one dies, No one dies,right, right, and he all has
the maturity, you know, likeof a board and six year old.
And that's not meanful of him,it's the truth and all, you know,
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So he I mean just he justkind Also, like you said,
no one died, and he wouldn'tget the adequate healthcare he needs. And
the person is meant to write youlike there's no rehabilitation. It's absolutely not
absolutely and see that's just it.You know, I'm not gonna send him
anywhere, to send him to uhbehavior type home, you know, if
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he needs to do some type oftime, but never in a in a
prison city. That's just too it'sjust too much. I could see if
he didn't have the disability that hedid attack, I could see time.
Okay, that's very understandable. However, and as an activist, Sarah,
and I've told you this off therecords, you know, there's cases where
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I'm like, you're more wrong forthis, like absolutely wrong. What can
we do? You know? Butthere's situations such as Brendan, you know,
you're talking about medication, you're talkingabout hype. He's not being followed.
That's a legal document, look itup. He's entitled to under fate
had a fair and appropriate public education. Being the least restrictive environment. Where
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did these rules go? You know? So we're just hoping that, you
know, they don't give them thattime because, like you mentioned, he's
got the emotional behavior of a fourto six year old. So you might
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see Brendan and he might know whathe's talking about because he read the dictionary
and he knows whatever, or youknow, he really educated himself on something
he really liked, because that's whatautistic kids does. But on the other
hand, it's hard for him tograsp things and how to handle them at
four to six years old. Thinkof a child that age all, he
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never should have been able to said, Okay, he's competent enough to stand
trial, my correct, So yeah, this is the way that it goes
in the state of Florida. I'mfrom Florida, so I know a lot
of the laws over there. Sothe way that it goes in the state
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of Florida when your special needs notevery state is like this. Find out
you know, special needs parents,find out that you know your rights and
your child rights in case there's eversituations like this. But certain states,
in Florida being one, what happensis the state can request, Okay,
let's do mental evaluation. They havetheir own doctors. Usually their own doctors
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are going to side with the states, right, so that that evaluation came
back that with conflicence. So thenthey come back and they do another The
family and the private attorney asked foranother evaluation because they were like, well,
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no, he's not competent. Youknow the sand trial, Well they
or be tried as an adult orSand trial. Well, the the when
they did it, the evaluation cameback sure another saying cannot stand in trial.
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So what happens when those situations happened, then it goes back to the
judge. The judge is the thirdvoice, and the judge says yes or
no. So then the judge decides, okay, Brendan could turn around and
sit here. What was I saying, Brendan can turn around and sit trial
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or not? And we could havetried them as a minor, because it's
another thing. They tried them asan assult. You guys, there was
seventeen when this happened. But they'retrying him as an assult. And he
at that point when the judge decidedthat we're here, you know, and
waiting, you know, and nowhe didn't even know where Plevia was when
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even when they asked him that hedidn't known. So yeah, and I
sent you that article. I'm notsure if you were able to see it.
Uh, okay, awesome. Sothere was a reporter there from Flagler
Live News or something, and theywere actually taking notes and I actually recorded
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because in the state of Florida,it is legal for you to record a
court trial or anything that's through withthe court. There's no law that says
you can't. So I'm listening.The judge specifically asked Brendon, do you
know what a plea bart or whata you know? You know, you're
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pleading? And Brendan turns around andhe says, do you know what a
plea is and Brendan turns around andhe says, well, it's like when
you sit there with the jurors orsomething. No, that's not what you
just signed or what you're about tosign, because I think he has signed
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it already. And the judge said, no, that's not it, and
he goes, well, how aboutI do this. How about we go
back you read everything again. We'llhave somebody sit there with you home.
We don't know if this person isspecifically trained to explain two special needs meaning
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autistics to where they are understand thisis what's going on, right, So
Brendan goes back up there once again, he's asked, do you know what
you're signing? He doesn't know whathe's signing. He again responded with the
wrong answer, but they accepted itthis time, so they accepted the plea
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from him. I immediately called thefamily and I said, listen, I
wouldn't call him immediately withdraw that hedidn't know what he was signing. So
eventually the news article came out aswell, and just so happened to be
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that the guy reporting said the samething. I said, Brendan didn't know
what he was signing, and wenever talked the day in our lives,
so he was just kind of cornered. The original courtt I think, was
supposed to be January thirty first orthirtieth, and they've changed it for just
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because of May first at one thirty. So he originally signed no contest.
That's still did they withdraw that?So no, So the plea is still
there, the plea for no contest. Now, I saw it in the
same courtroom that day, and I'mgoing to add this. I saw that
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there was brown and black. I'mgoing to say it like this, brown
and black would go up there infront of the judge. The judge would
give him six seven, eight years, and we're looking at our counterparts to
Caucasians, and I couldn't believe myears counseling take a driver's course, do
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this, do that? So reallythey all got to slap in the hands
meanwhile, And that concerns me withBrendan And it's my understanding that that's the
best judge and most fair judge outof all of it. Yeah, I
know, Sarah, I know.So it's one of those things that you
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know. I made sure I wrotesomething on social media and I tagged his
name, you know, Brendan deppasbecause families needed to know. So,
how is it okay that this childthis is due process? You just messed
it up. But you know,we're hoping that Brendan Sinson been shown what
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it is. So the judge,once he hears everything, he can give
them anywhere from no time to timeserved whatever to thirty years. And you
know, it's scary, it isautistic. As an activist, I have
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clients all across the nation when theya lot of times when they hear my
son talk and they're like, oh, he's special needs. I'm like,
yeah, he's autistic. Oh wehave somebody like that in the storm to
get bullied a lot. I've seenthis. I seen that. I'd rather
not stay on air, you know, And none of this stuff is talked
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about. These prisons. Only tenpercent of the whole prison system has accommodations
for these adults. So that meansmaybe one area in one prison. It's
a very small percentage. Oh yeah, there's not enough best for them,
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so they send them everywhere across thestate. That's just then to the hospital
where they really need to be stopthat madness. So what can we do
to help Brendan. So with Brendan, he's got court coming up May first,
at one point thirty. I wouldgreatly appreciate the public writing a letter
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to the judge asking him to havemercy on Brendan, considering the circumstances that
I wasn't followed. Look at thearticles, look at the interview from missus
Steppa. It's like I said,in a beautiful family, I met him
myself. Write the judge hashtag isname. You know. I'm sure that
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it'll get back to the family.I look all the time they tag I
support Brendan Deppa. Send it tothe family, you know. But the
most important is writing that judge,writing the DA telling her to have a
heart, not give him the maxso off, I wasn't the judge.
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Oh what is the judge's name?Judge Terence Perkins to Judge Perkins, thank
you so and I want you guysto know something. Be just to give
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you guys a little bit on theof the judge that I'm actually reading at.
On this article, it says thejudge went easy on two young defendants
last week in an unrelated high schoolhigh profile case. However, Judge Terence
Perkins sentence gabriel Alo eighteen to sixyears in prison for beating a terrified team
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and running over this American who triedto intervene. So what I'm saying is
he he picks and chooses, youknow. So and I'm not saying that
anything that Gabriella did was good.I'm not I'm not on that. I'm
saying that there's some people that aregetting a slap in the hen and others
that aren't the articles. So yeah, I'll make sure to have that,
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you know, description. And I'malso yeah, he's that hashtag and you
well, I've been getting a storyout there all all friends have been reposting,
and and of course and all andthey've all they've been sharing with me.
You know, they also have familymembers, friends who have autism and
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and their hearts are broken for Brendan. All they've been sharing don't learn Instagram
stories and I and they said,you know what with their family members who
have authored and they're like, oh, this would absolutely kill me inside of
this happened. So yeah, soplease absolutely hashtag you know, Brendan Deppa.
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I support Brandy Deppa, watching theDA watch the judge, you know,
ask him to have mercy on himand I will be doing the same.
And and so again, thank youfor coming on, and everyone keep
praying the word. Again, thankyou so much anytime. Thank you for
having me. Absolutely enjoyed it.And I know that sometimes I get a
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little to detail that comes along surethat everybody gets it step by step.
So absolutely I appreciate you coming on. Keep spreading the word, and I'll
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who is the CEO and founder ofWe See You Human Justice Corporation, and
the CEO and founder of Lunchtime wasaut and she is the head advocate for
Brendan Debra, who is uh whowe're going to be fighting for. Oh,
you work today and uh But beforewe get any further, Anna Adam,
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could you all please introduce yourself.Yes, Hi, Sarah. First
of all, I wanted to thankyou for giving me the opportunity to go
come on your platform. I haveto love you so I've been seeing you
for a while out there, sothank you us the great work and my
well, my name is Anakonis,as you mentioned, I'm CEO and founder
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of We See You Human Justice Organizationand lunchtime with Anna. We're here to
talk about Brendan. I'm doing reallygood today. I'm doing really good,
real quick. All, if youdon't mind, please see use your even
Justice Organization. Can you tell mea little bit about wook work? Yes,
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so we thy Human Justice Organization wasfounded back I think I'm almost positive
it was like twenty eighteen. Thereason why you used to use Human Justice
Organization was founded was because I havea son who's autistic ADHD autism and had
a major speech delay later diagnosed withthe proxya you used to have that Biloki.
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So he has special needs and itwas a long a fight trying to
get him is and just get himthe minimal that he needed. And I
had to teach myself a lot ofthings, and a lot of these things
are very expensive. At that time, I couldn't afford it, you know,
I couldn't afford an advocate coming andsitting in the school meeting for an
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ip for seven hundred and fifty dollarsan hour. It's a lot of money.
So what we ended up doing wasI ended up teaching myself and teaching
myself and reading and reading and readingand reading and reading, reading, and
so later on I became an advocatefor that. When I originally opened up
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the organization, it was strictly goingto be for special needs and the elderly,
but I guess the joke was onme because human means everybody. So
today the majority of my cases arelifers, lifers or anybody facing sentences like
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that seems to be what always comesto the table for me. It's almost
like a natural calling for that.You know. I can't even explain it.
It's like they just, you know, the referrals are crazy sending me
emails called you know, you pleasewithout my case and all that good stuff.
So that's really the background on wesee you, you know, and
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we're here. We're here so strong. Howd you get involved with all Brinin's
case? So I'm connected to anotherorganization and shout out to Tawanda Graves.
She's doing wonderful things out there forthe missing and exploited Childrenanda Tuanda Graves is
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she's also an activist, and she'sI guess, always on different sites and
she just so happened to run acrossthe story on Brendan Deppa and she tagged
me on it. You know,autistic boy facing thirty years and I'm like,
oh yeah. So I started doingresearch. I found out there was
a court date last August or September. I can't really remember off the top
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of my head that date, themonth or whatever, But so I drove
down to Florida. Right now,I'm in Georgia, and I drove down
to Florida. When to Flagler County, which is a very conservative county.
We'll leave it there. And whathad happened was when I was sitting in
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court, it was just like wow, but we'll get into all of that,
you know. I don't want tojump the gun. But Brenda is
facing three years in prison all andhe's got all well three autism, he
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has oppositional fine disorder ODD and Imeant an explosive disorder, mood, this
regulation disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, anxiety of ADHD. At this time
that all this all he had beltdown. I'll attacked the parapedessional, which
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no, we're not making excuses forbut there were things that should have been
avoided. But when it's happened,wasn't he on thirteen different medications with varying
slide effects. So and yes,okay, his attack and again my my
heart goes out to Jones. Wereprofessional in this case, you know,
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as an activist, so I haveto do the right thing. No one
is justifying his part in this.In fact, Brendan Deppa has been sitting
in county jail now for thirteen monthsfrom this a million dollar on a million
dollar bond, and he's autistic.Most people in these situations, they don't
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have these these long time sitting inthe county jail. It's been very hard
for him to transition, as youcan imagine with the disability. However,
the saraph whom was the same onewho had him arrested and you know,
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gave him a million dollar bond,I will say it's been very helpful with
a program that has really benefited Brendanwhile he's been in county jail. I
do I do want to say thatbrenda'sn't really trying to do the right thing.
You know, we all make mistakes, we all make mistakes, So
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yeah, really heartbreaking. But hewas on thirteen medications. But I'm not
saying on antime medication by any means, but these medications like had varying slight
effects, and he's been like ona lot of them throughout the years,
and and I feel like a psychiatristnever really sat him down and said,
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Okay, this is what you need. And he's been like all different ones
throughout the years. And I correct. So, yeah, So what had
happened was we all we all thingswent cool, cool for all of us
when COVID happened. What it wasbecause I remember with having certain behaviors,
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and I remember, we've also gotto keep in mind pupil, the teenagers.
We got to keep all of thisin mind, you know. So
there was certain behaviors that maybe themedications that were working at one point were
not working anymore. I'm not surethe exact detail, but you know,
I'm making that assumption. And I'llsay that never spoken to the depth of
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family and they said that. However, what they did say was that because
of COVID, he started a programover I believe it was in North or
South Carolina. And what happened wasthey put them all these medications and COVID
happened, So then they never figuredout what worked and what didn't work for
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Brendan. What ended up happening wasthey kept them on the medications, which
I know one of them I think, well, butren causes like depression,
outbirth, hallucinations, and there wasa few of them that I saw with
hallucinations. So I want people tokeep this in mind. And like again,
we're not justifying his actions. However, things triggered the situation that he's
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in today. So like I said, the family tried their hardest during COVID,
but it's just nothing was moving fastenough. And even now after COVID,
what do places where we go anywhere, what do they normally say,
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Well, because of COVID, we'redelayed on this, so we're still behind
on the BOT, you know.So that was the situation with Brendan.
So he was still on at thetime of the incident, thirteen different medications.
Think about it. If it wasyou, I don't even know you
a lift it up, stay upfor that matter. And when he was
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I'll move into a home. Allthey like, he was doing well,
you know in our home, seeliving you know, with a small group
zoom. Well, but they placedhim in a folk school setting despite his
parents' reservations. That was ignored becausehe so he's a sweet person. He
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loves to give hugs, they're exportbut but he just doesn't do well book
settings understandable and but despite that theyare so put him in a public school
and he was not being followed andlike corn yes, so yeah, so
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you know the in the group homeand you know, and I'm gonna rewind
a little bit so that there's anunderstanding. You know, the family had
acted at the time that it wasbest and you know, for their reasoning
for Brendan to be in a grouphome temporarily, and so they didn't transition
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him back home. Well, whattakes place is that Brendan the so and
let me give everybody an insight onthe special needs community because I am a
special needs parent. One of thethings that they do is they'll turn around
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and they'll tell you professionals and Imean counselors, psychologists, stuff like that
on the parent websites, like thegroup parent websites, on social media and
stuff. So they'll tell you justcall the police so that you can get
the systems that you need. Forthem, Well, what happens, mom
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calls the police, you know,anytime they had, you know, any
situation, even if it wasn't big. So Brendan, yes, did have
two charges to felonies, and itcould have been because he broke something in
the house where I don't know theins and outs, but I do know
that the Yarns had to do thatto get the group get him in the
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group home. There was a thirdincident because you know, if you actually
google his name, I know youguys will see the same thing I've seen.
Oh, he was arrested three times. It's not necessarily true because the
parents needed the help, which today, you know, the family says,
I wish I would have never listened, you know, because it's really got
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him in more trouble legally. Right. So the third one was okay,
So a child was bullying him,calling him the N word. Brendan is
black, calling him the N wordand bullying him and even made him drink
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urine out of a bottle, tellinghim it was Mountain zoo. And so
when Brendan defended himself, he thencaught a third felony. Now it was
being booked. Yeah, so Brendan, uh, did what any of us
would do defending ourselves. You know, Like I said, I don't justify
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when we when we do these things, right, violence or anything like that.
However, there's situations where you're leftcornered and you have no choice but
to defend yourself or it's not goingto stop. Right. So at that
point, you know, Brendan didwhat he did, and he defended himself.
I think there was one question thatI missed that you asked details.
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I remember, like he's before Iasked that I wanted to touch on this
real quickly. I'm so lightly broughtit up. He said, you want
to what the no parents you knowwho have kids who are disabled. I'll
you don't call the police. Andbecause I remember reading this, I do
not blame experience. I want tomake that clear. But when our brother,
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oh no again, I don't blamethem, but yeah, but yeah
police, Well yeah, see,my my son himself is, like I
said, autistic. Also Brendan's age, they're in the same grade. So
I really took it personal. Butone of the things is and I and
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I told the depth of family this, I said, I I've been asked
to do the same. I wouldnot because that bad situation might have my
son in jail, and once hefalls into the system, it's really hard
to get him out, you know, nearly impossible. So please, parents,
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please, I'm begging you. Don'tI know there's situations where they get
out of hand. They what theycall the meltdowns. It's not that they're
misbehaving, it's not that they're tryingto do violence, it's not that they're
vioing. They're having a meltdown.Because it all educate yourself, yes,
please do so. So like Isaid that third tellony, yeah, you
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know, you defend yourself. Theother two hell yeah, the other two.
Like I said, a meltdown shouldnot be counted against you, right,
But the parents didn't know what elseto do at the time. So,
and they're wonderful and amazing parents.And I've met both, great,
great folks. For but I'll I'llask you about all this I e P
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all. Prior to this meltdown thathas it in jail, all it was
not being followed at all. Sothere was a fear stipulations on the I
P One of them would do notsend the device or give them any of
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electronic devices. The teacher not theparaprofessional, the teacher, and the classroom
requested that the device be brought toschool for incentives. Now, the IP
says, do not do it underrights law, the federal law. I'm
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not sure of the year of it, but it really it defends their rights.
This is special needs rights and forthem to get a fair education in
school. So under rights law,that's part of it. You know,
the IEP is a legal documents haveto follow the IP or whatever happens.
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Really, how are we holding thechild accountable because that's what he was at
the time, he was seventeen.Why are we holding him accountable when it
wasn't followed in the first place.The second thing is, so the teachers
asked for it, the group whoreluctantly sent it, I wish they wouldn't
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have. Is this Ninder switch?Yeah, the Nintendo switch and I Will
Play hadn't either. Yeah. Andthere was a couple of other things on
the IP. One was, don'tuh embarrass Brendan in front of other people.
If you need to talk to Brendan, pull him to the side because
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of his compulsive explosive explosive disorder.I forget what it's called, but because
of that, it's best to pullthem to the side that was not followed.
The pair of professional was really Idon't want to say booing, right,
I don't want to use that word, but really not following the IEP
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each teacher to the best of myknowledge, especially because this pair of professional
was one on one with Brendan.It's not like she had a group of
kids. She was specifically assigned toBrendan Beva. The problem here is when
did you ever read the IP ifat any point were you able even edgar
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following that IP, because you ifyou would have read it, you would
have known all of these things tonot do, to not trigger what took
place after you know. So longstory short, she kept doing saying negative
things about him because and let melet me rewind back to what he did.
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So Brendan saw that everybody had theirdevices after they were done with their
work. So Brendan, you know, got on his device. Well,
Brendan, you got to wait tillyou finish doing your work, Okay,
so you put it away. Hefinished his work, then he got back
on it. No, Brendan,you you'll, you'll you You're not going
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to get on your device. Sowhy give everybody else an incentive and not
give it to Brendan Because Brendan tookit out a little bit too early,
thinking it was okay to use thedevice, you know, but instead of
being a little more understanding, becauseif she would have ready, she would
have known, okay, this cantrigger certain things. Afterwards, she pretty
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much spoke to the main teacher inthe classroom and I'm from my understanding other
students and was really embarrassing him andit triggered him to then, you know,
call her her name, which hewasn't right for and that's when the
attech happened. So and I'm sorry, I was just asking out. After
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that he was arrested and regrett yes. All. So yeah, so during
the uh, during the attack,I mean I didn't see it at the
beginning when I went to go representBrendon, and I'm gonna tell you why.
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I didn't want to be biased withanybody. I just saw a seventeen
year old who was on who wason a million dollar bill. Okay,
that's all I looked at. Irecently saw the video. It is.
It is pretty detailed, pretty toughto watch. However, there was rules
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there with the I P. Therewas rules there I t wasn't followed and
and I've stressed it so you know, when when it boils down to it,
I uh you know the para professional, Yes, your responsibility was to
read the i P. But thefalk coast to the school district. Mm
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hmm. And I'm going to tellyou why this para professional wasn't completely certified.
It's public records. You're able toask the school district and you all
can see for yourself what dates wasshe actually certified with all the certifications she
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would have needed to work with achild like Brendan with a lot of special
means. The other thing is theteacher in the classroom was not also completely
certified. That the teaching a classwith special needs, she still needed more
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certifications. So who goes at faulthere? Truthfully, it's the school district
in Flagler County and shame on them. Brendan sitting in jail. Oh one
more thing I wanted to add,Sarah, and I think this is very
important. So I started doing researchon children around Brendan's age that may have
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had similar situations. M h Andwhat happened in the same school district.
Really they got a slap in thehands. I saw that too, you
know. And I'm glad you didresearch as well, Sarah, because I
do. I do research when Itake these cases, and I kind of
look at all these things, andso we've got to ask ourselves, is
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he the example? And why shouldwhy should it be Brendan right? You
know, like I said, myheart goes up to him. I was
able to meet him in person.He's just so so articulate, right,
because that's the autism. Right.But then we'll get into detail with what
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happened in court. We'll talk aboutthat, I guess sometime during the interview.
But at the same time so innocent. It was just such so you
got like the best of both worldsand you're like, wow, you know.
So he's a great kid, agreat kid. He really is.
Go ahead, now an adult,he's not a man. And now the
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this is your attorney has a connectionsto the school system. I'm I correct,
Yes, So the district attorney fromFlagger County. I can't think of
her name off the top of myhead. She's not budging. She wants
him to get thirty years for Ithink it's aggravated assault. I'm almost positive
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for thirty years. She's going forthe max. And the reason why is,
you know, she was an educatorherself or or or connected to somebody
in the education system, and soshe more sides with the edge here.
And that's understandable. You know,that's who they bring. You're entitled to
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your opinions. But she's shooting forthe max. Like you said, he's
sat. They're on a million dollarbail right over a year and after two
months. You know, I thinkthat's a long time for somebody to realize
and see what they've done. Ibelieve that in the long run, I
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would have liked to see Joan andthe depth of family unite. Dot that's
her lesson to unite because at theend of the day, just all falls
back of the school district, right, not either party. I mean,
you know, she had her responsibilities, like I say, But at the
same time, you know, Ialso have sympathized with her because I'm also
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more absolutely so I about thirty yearsin President Brendan. That's desicens right,
there was out our doubt and ittruly is so Brendan. I think he's
down to about four medications now,but still he's got needs with medications.
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He's got needs when he you know, it's really hard for him because there
is different types of kids there,you know, and Brendan was homeschooled when
he was younger. He had recentlygone to the public school system, so
it wasn't something that Brendan Brendan isused to, if that makes sense,
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right. Thirty years is a longtime. It's a life sentence. No
one dies, No one dies,right, right, and he all has
the maturity, you know, likeof a board and six year old.
And that's not meanful of him,it's the truth and all, you know,
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So he I mean just he justkind Also, like you said,
no one died, and he wouldn'tget the adequate healthcare he needs. And
the person is meant to write youlike there's no rehabilitation. It's absolutely not
absolutely and see that's just it.You know, I'm not gonna send him
anywhere, to send him to uhbehavior type home, you know, if
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he needs to do some type oftime, but never in a in a
prison city. That's just too it'sjust too much. I could see if
he didn't have the disability that hedid attack, I could see time.
Okay, that's very understandable. However, and as an activist, Sarah,
and I've told you this off therecords, you know, there's cases where
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I'm like, you're more wrong forthis, like absolutely wrong. What can
we do? You know? Butthere's situations such as Brendan, you know,
you're talking about medication, you're talkingabout hype. He's not being followed.
That's a legal document, look itup. He's entitled to under fate
had a fair and appropriate public education. Being the least restrictive environment. Where
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did these rules go? You know? So we're just hoping that, you
know, they don't give them thattime because, like you mentioned, he's
got the emotional behavior of a fourto six year old. So you might
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see Brendan and he might know whathe's talking about because he read the dictionary
and he knows whatever, or youknow, he really educated himself on something
he really liked, because that's whatautistic kids does. But on the other
hand, it's hard for him tograsp things and how to handle them at
four to six years old. Thinkof a child that age all, he
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never should have been able to said, Okay, he's competent enough to stand
trial, my correct, So yeah, this is the way that it goes
in the state of Florida. I'mfrom Florida, so I know a lot
of the laws over there. Sothe way that it goes in the state
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of Florida when your special needs notevery state is like this. Find out
you know, special needs parents,find out that you know your rights and
your child rights in case there's eversituations like this. But certain states,
in Florida being one, what happensis the state can request, Okay,
let's do mental evaluation. They havetheir own doctors. Usually their own doctors
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are going to side with the states, right, so that that evaluation came
back that with conflicence. So thenthey come back and they do another The
family and the private attorney asked foranother evaluation because they were like, well,
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no, he's not competent. Youknow the sand trial, Well they
or be tried as an adult orSand trial. Well, the the when
they did it, the evaluation cameback sure another saying cannot stand in trial.
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So what happens when those situations happened, then it goes back to the
judge. The judge is the thirdvoice, and the judge says yes or
no. So then the judge decides, okay, Brendan could turn around and
sit here. What was I saying, Brendan can turn around and sit trial
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or not? And we could havetried them as a minor, because it's
another thing. They tried them asan assult. You guys, there was
seventeen when this happened. But they'retrying him as an assult. And he
at that point when the judge decidedthat we're here, you know, and
waiting, you know, and nowhe didn't even know where Plevia was when
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even when they asked him that hedidn't known. So yeah, and I
sent you that article. I'm notsure if you were able to see it.
Uh, okay, awesome. Sothere was a reporter there from Flagler
Live News or something, and theywere actually taking notes and I actually recorded
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because in the state of Florida,it is legal for you to record a
court trial or anything that's through withthe court. There's no law that says
you can't. So I'm listening.The judge specifically asked Brendon, do you
know what a plea bart or whata you know? You know, you're
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pleading? And Brendan turns around andhe says, do you know what a
plea is and Brendan turns around andhe says, well, it's like when
you sit there with the jurors orsomething. No, that's not what you
just signed or what you're about tosign, because I think he has signed
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it already. And the judge said, no, that's not it, and
he goes, well, how aboutI do this. How about we go
back you read everything again. We'llhave somebody sit there with you home.
We don't know if this person isspecifically trained to explain two special needs meaning
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autistics to where they are understand thisis what's going on, right, So
Brendan goes back up there once again, he's asked, do you know what
you're signing? He doesn't know whathe's signing. He again responded with the
wrong answer, but they accepted itthis time, so they accepted the plea
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from him. I immediately called thefamily and I said, listen, I
wouldn't call him immediately withdraw that hedidn't know what he was signing. So
eventually the news article came out aswell, and just so happened to be
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that the guy reporting said the samething. I said, Brendan didn't know
what he was signing, and wenever talked the day in our lives,
so he was just kind of cornered. The original courtt I think, was
supposed to be January thirty first orthirtieth, and they've changed it for just
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because of May first at one thirty. So he originally signed no contest.
That's still did they withdraw that?So no, So the plea is still
there, the plea for no contest. Now, I saw it in the
same courtroom that day, and I'mgoing to add this. I saw that
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there was brown and black. I'mgoing to say it like this, brown
and black would go up there infront of the judge. The judge would
give him six seven, eight years, and we're looking at our counterparts to
Caucasians, and I couldn't believe myears counseling take a driver's course, do
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this, do that? So reallythey all got to slap in the hands
meanwhile, And that concerns me withBrendan And it's my understanding that that's the
best judge and most fair judge outof all of it. Yeah, I
know, Sarah, I know.So it's one of those things that you
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know. I made sure I wrotesomething on social media and I tagged his
name, you know, Brendan deppasbecause families needed to know. So,
how is it okay that this childthis is due process? You just messed
it up. But you know,we're hoping that Brendan Sinson been shown what
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it is. So the judge,once he hears everything, he can give
them anywhere from no time to timeserved whatever to thirty years. And you
know, it's scary, it isautistic. As an activist, I have
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clients all across the nation when theya lot of times when they hear my
son talk and they're like, oh, he's special needs. I'm like,
yeah, he's autistic. Oh wehave somebody like that in the storm to
get bullied a lot. I've seenthis. I seen that. I'd rather
not stay on air, you know, And none of this stuff is talked
(35:32):
about. These prisons. Only tenpercent of the whole prison system has accommodations
for these adults. So that meansmaybe one area in one prison. It's
a very small percentage. Oh yeah, there's not enough best for them,
(35:57):
so they send them everywhere across thestate. That's just then to the hospital
where they really need to be stopthat madness. So what can we do
to help Brendan. So with Brendan, he's got court coming up May first,
at one point thirty. I wouldgreatly appreciate the public writing a letter
(36:22):
to the judge asking him to havemercy on Brendan, considering the circumstances that
I wasn't followed. Look at thearticles, look at the interview from missus
Steppa. It's like I said,in a beautiful family, I met him
myself. Write the judge hashtag isname. You know. I'm sure that
(36:52):
it'll get back to the family.I look all the time they tag I
support Brendan Deppa. Send it tothe family, you know. But the
most important is writing that judge,writing the DA telling her to have a
heart, not give him the maxso off, I wasn't the judge.
(37:15):
Oh what is the judge's name?Judge Terence Perkins to Judge Perkins, thank
you so and I want you guysto know something. Be just to give
(37:36):
you guys a little bit on theof the judge that I'm actually reading at.
On this article, it says thejudge went easy on two young defendants
last week in an unrelated high schoolhigh profile case. However, Judge Terence
Perkins sentence gabriel Alo eighteen to sixyears in prison for beating a terrified team
(38:04):
and running over this American who triedto intervene. So what I'm saying is
he he picks and chooses, youknow. So and I'm not saying that
anything that Gabriella did was good.I'm not I'm not on that. I'm
saying that there's some people that aregetting a slap in the hen and others
that aren't the articles. So yeah, I'll make sure to have that,
(38:30):
you know, description. And I'malso yeah, he's that hashtag and you
well, I've been getting a storyout there all all friends have been reposting,
and and of course and all andthey've all they've been sharing with me.
You know, they also have familymembers, friends who have autism and
(38:53):
and their hearts are broken for Brendan. All they've been sharing don't learn Instagram
stories and I and they said,you know what with their family members who
have authored and they're like, oh, this would absolutely kill me inside of
this happened. So yeah, soplease absolutely hashtag you know, Brendan Deppa.
(39:19):
I support Brandy Deppa, watching theDA watch the judge, you know,
ask him to have mercy on himand I will be doing the same.
And and so again, thank youfor coming on, and everyone keep
praying the word. Again, thankyou so much anytime. Thank you for
having me. Absolutely enjoyed it.And I know that sometimes I get a
(39:44):
little to detail that comes along surethat everybody gets it step by step.
So absolutely I appreciate you coming on. Keep spreading the word, and I'll
talk to you soon. So theCat for stars, not every light is
gone, And carry baby, don'tlading main, non spik. Get me
(40:07):
close to your heart. I lovethe pressure's gone, and drive you crazy
because you're right to the madness inthe morning. It's all kind of van
it's don't be afraid of it.Sight the cat for with stars, not
every light is gone, and guardyou. Yeah, when I blow up,
(40:31):
I'm gonna saw a highlight. PeterPan in real life, be living
out my dreams, come waking upper cent the fourth land, whole wrist,
covering up in ice, stealing ship, never asked the price,
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