September 24, 2024 • 36 mins
In this episode of Voiceless Behind Bars, host Sarah and Christian Coleman discuss the importance of advocacy, both inside and outside the prison system, and the role we all play in pushing for justice reform. Christian’s story highlights how crucial it is for everyone to stay involved in the democratic process.
Sarah encourages listeners to check their voter registration and participate in local elections, especially as voter rights continue to face challenges in states across the country. There have been instances where individuals, even those with Legal Immigration Cards or U.S. citizenship, have had their voter status removed.
It’s more important than ever to ensure your registration is up to date.Tune in for this insightful conversation and learn how you can be a voice for the voiceless.
Important links mentioned:
Sarah encourages listeners to check their voter registration and participate in local elections, especially as voter rights continue to face challenges in states across the country. There have been instances where individuals, even those with Legal Immigration Cards or U.S. citizenship, have had their voter status removed.
It’s more important than ever to ensure your registration is up to date.Tune in for this insightful conversation and learn how you can be a voice for the voiceless.
Important links mentioned:
- Learn more about Elizabeth Anderson (District 6): Elizabeth Anderson Campaign
- Elizabeth Anderson’s Facebook: Elizabeth Anderson for Congress
- Register to vote or check your status: Rock the Vote
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
The points behind bars. I'm your host sar the Yarman.
I've got my friend Christian Colin here, who is up
on the chair of the Democratic Board and Hoover. Am
I getting that title correct?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, well it's the chair of the Hoover Democrats.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yes, there we go. Well, thank you, Christian, thank you
for coming on here. Do you mind introducing yourself?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
My name is Christian Coleman. I ran for the Democratic
I ran as the Democratic nominee for that area, the
Hoover area for the Alabama State Legislature in twenty twenty two,
and now I am chair of the Hoover Democrats in
which is in that area. And I tend to work
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on democratic campaigns around the suburbs of Birmingham.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
And just so everyone knows I voted for him, so
is on my social media.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
So and I appreciate that, of course, But.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
What got you interested in politics to begin with? What
made you decide, Okay, I want to run?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So the thing that got me interested first was actually
I was in my dorm room and they were in
the Senate and the House were debating Obamacare, right, and
I was watching them go back and forth. I was
watching them mess with the bill. I was watching the debate,
and it just struck me that there's you know, three
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hundred and thirty something million people in this country, and
that room in Washington, d C. Is the room where
these things are decided, you know, like like in Hamilton,
the room where it happens, right, And I was like,
I need to get in those rooms. If if that's
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where people's lives are made better or worse, I need
to get in that. I need to get in those
rooms to make people's lives better.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And in what year of that year college, doum, what
were you a sophomore?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
What year was that that would have been freshman year,
I was seven week. Yeah that's when they so, I
guess they started they started the the debates about it.
I guess. I guess I wasn't in my dorm because
I guess I was in my apartment in like oh nine.
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But you know, either way, memory gets hazy.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Oh yeah, memory does get hazy. Oh my gosh, it's
just like the past four years. Oh man. Yeah, yeah,
but still I remember those debates. I remember when John
McCain would not repeal a BoNT care. I that has
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always stayed in my mind. And uh I brought that
up to my husband recently when he wouldn't repeal it,
and so like, like you said, all that goes on
in that one room where it changed people's lives. And
that's when the reason why I keep stressing to people
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you need to pay attention in your local elections. You
need to get registered. Make sure to check on your
registration too, because politicians, you know, such the local ones
are the ones that make sure either things move forward
or we go back forward.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Now, Lisa Murkowski also voted no. So John John McCain
gets all the credit, but don't forget the women.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, you're right, I would be also given credit because
you know, he w the way Trump went after him, Yeah,
which is so disgusting. But you're right, and I thank
you for highlighting that. Don't forget the women exactly. And yeah, yeah,
because the media does not talk about that.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Well, I think it's because John McCain, like Lisa Murkowski,
is understood to be a little bit more I don't
want to call her a moderate, she's not. She's still
very much a conservative, a little bit more reasonable and
so and so they were never really counting on her vote,
but they were like John McCain, he's kind of a jerk.
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He'll he'll take people's health care away. So it was
shocking when he didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I think that was another reason why bother media
kind of latched onto too. But like I said, the
way Trump went after him as well, don't get me started.
But oh, so right now, you are campaigning for Elabit
Henderson all and thank you. Yeah, we talked about hetrible
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names sometimes, but because you please tell me about her
campaign what she's running for.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Okay, So Elizabeth Anderson is running for the US Congress
in district sits in Alabama, and that's like, that's the
basically the suburbs of Birmingham out to the excerbs. Yes, perhaps,
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like it's definitely where I grew up. I'm not sure
whe where you're from. But Bluff Park Yeah yeah, okay
that's also do uber Democrats meet in Bluff Park? Okay, yep, yep, right, Uh,
we're getting insider baseball the right across from where tip
Top Girl used to be. Yes, that is that is
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where where we meet.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
So just you know, for those not familiar with Alabama
and you know steeked in Alabama, lower Uh District six
is the suburbs of Birmingham to the south of Birmingham
and a little bit I recall correctly to the east.
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So it's a fairly jerrymander district because it's got about
its counties in it. Because the city of Birmingham is
very blue, right, most urban areas are pretty blue. It's
got a high black and brown population. They tend to
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vote blue, so it's a very blue area. Republicans run
this state, so they drew up maps that scooped up
all of the wealthier, majority white suburbs out to some
more rural, majority white areas. So that's District six and
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it is just being honest, very red and it's run
all right, It's not run, it's our representatives, is currently
Gary Palmer. Yeah, and Gary Palmer is. He's not a
loud mouse like a lot of a lot of Republican
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representatives and these really safe seats are. He's quiet. But
that makes him more dangerous because instead of going on
Newsmax and O A N and hollering about immigrants eating
people's pets and things, he's actually doing the work. He
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wakes up every day and he's like, how can I
make people's lives worse? Right, and specifically he's like, how
can I make women's lives worse? How can I how
can I make their health outcomes worse?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I'm sure I'll talk about it. I'm sure this is
important to Sanderson. You know, women's healthcare?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, Oh of course, I mean I think, yes, definitely.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
She's a mother, she's a woman, she's a person with
a conscience. So Elizabeth Anderson is challenging him, she's the
Democratic candidate. She's challenging him in that district, my district
where I grew up, where I lived, where my two
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girls are growing up. And she is she is she
started a tech startup. That's her professional background. I met
her like in the office where she works, and she
explained me her tech startup. But I have a degree
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in poetry, so I didn't get any of it, but
it sounded it's sounded very smart. And then I've been
talking to her, I've been working with her, and she
is smart. She's smart, she's compassionate, she knows the issues.
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She's trying to do something good. She's trying to build
an organization of saying people in this red district.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I remember you and I have talked about like this.
One of the all things that caught my husband and
eyes eye when it came to your campaign was that
you know you are for you are pro choicees thing
you and I have talked about that you don't feel
comfortable all the government deciding no what a person with
a universe can cannot do. That's up to woman and
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her doctor.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah, exactly. I know a lot of things I could think.
I like to think that I'm a pretty intelligent guy,
but I don't. I don't know about like I'm not.
I'm not a medical expert. So were I to get elected,
and somebody asked me, you know, should this medical procedure
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be permitted. I would say, as a doctor, ask a
medical researcher, like at the at the FDA where they
approve where they approve drugs. It's not a bunch of
just anybody who managed to get fifty one percent of
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the vote. It's pharmacists and scientists and experts. And that's
the way we should treat medical care for for women
or anyone anyone with a uterus like that's it shouldn't
be just whoever is loud enough and can trick you
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into voting for them. Right.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And she also has a very big passional criminal justice Ah,
could you tell us about that?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yes, so in Alabama we have a very that it's
not specific to Alabama, but it is a big problem.
Is private prisons. Right, we have men and they're they're
they're for profit prisons, and the product is incarcerated people.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
So all of the incentives are to incarcerate as many
people as possible for as long as possible, and those
are clearly perverse incentives if you are actually seeking justice.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Right, So so she proposes ending private prisons. Well, yeah,
like the the idea of rehabilitating people, keeping them out
of thecarceral state is not conducive to profit making and
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it shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
No, this shouldn't be property of the state.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
No, be because I mean we we fought a war
about what or not you can keep people as property
m hm, and I thought we'd decided the issue, but
apparently not.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I thought so too, And then there's that loop holme
of thirteenth Amendment. And yeah, what I found out about
I would give It's the thing they need to be
more on sussed about in school. Oh, but how does
she feel about the death penalty?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I have not actually asked Elizabeth about that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Would love to ask her.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I would I.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Would love to ask her as well. And I would
love to get back to you on that. On about Elizabeth,
so not speaking, not.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Speak on your behalf.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, just for me, I think that any innocent person
being put to death by the state is a travesty
and there is no way in my mind to eliminate
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the possibility of the state killing an innocent person exactly. Therefore,
the state should not murder inmates.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I agree now that it's gone from one in eight
people are at of excuse now gone to one and seven,
and like there's no way to eliminate that completely.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
You can't, no, because in the eighties we could not
imagine DNA evidence, right, and then DNA exonerates all these
people who have been incarcerated for however long. Yeah, so
what technology innovation is going to come along in the
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future and we look back and we're like, damn, we
killed that guy in twenty twenty four, and now it
turns out he was innocent based on this thing we
couldn't even have imagined in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
And some things we do have access to, some people
do have the DNA evidence, but state doesn't care.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yeah. Well, you also get into the issues of elected
of positions that are electoral positions.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And so yet again we go back to perverse incentives.
Like I don't want to get too far afield, but
back when Bill Clinton was running for the first time
in nineteen ninety two, he was governor of Arkansas, and
there was a a I believe he was mentally handicapped
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man who was on death row, and Bill Clinton flew
back to Arkansas, left the campaign trails, flew back to
Arkansas so that this so that he could oversee the
execution of this person who quite likely was not, was not,
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should not have been deemed fit to stand trial because
he wanted to appear tough on crime. So you've got
these incentives where not only are there mistakes made in
the criminal justice system, but there's also people who for
you know, electoral reasons, will kill an innocent person. Yeah,
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and that's you know, that's disgusting, but it is the reality.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yep. Oh yeah, I've read about that, and I've also
you know, all I want to say, witness it, but
you know, as it's happening, I'm you know, basically watching
it on the news as it's happening, like for instance,
Ivan Canto all innocent man all February this year, all
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that was there, the DNA everything, and Governor luck knew
this van was innocent. I'm all I can sit there
is you know, encourage people to call him up. But
I'm saying they're going, he knows he's innocent, but he's
again wanting to appear tough on crime.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
M M no, No, I mean worse than that.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Worse than tough on crime, just making people miserable.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah. Now, as far as Elizabeth Anders and I've not
asked that specific question, but I am willing to say that.
Whenever I have asked her a question about like, you know,
what's our position on this, what's our position on that?
It has been a position that is oriented towards improving
lives increasing justice. So obviously, obviously the death penalty does
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not improve lives or increase justice.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
No, it doesn't, so solve the problem.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I feel confident whatever her position is, and I can
after and get back to you. Whatever her position is,
I'm sure it is it is reasonable and justice based.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Love to have her on here. Yeah, I'd love to
talk to her about all this because I like the
victuals in for profit prisons and you know, like just
to give everyone a little run down here. You know,
state makes money off of each inmate. Say what the
federal government does as well, But we're talking about state
right now. Makes money off of each inmate because our
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tax dollars goes to house them each day they're in
there and put even more show on death row. So yeah,
but here's the thing with them getting rearbilitated, going back
getting jobs, they become taxing citizens, so money still going
back to the state.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah. Yeah, definitely having a having a tax paying citizen
a positive contributor to to the social fabric and to
the economy. Is is infinitely more valuable monetarily, like, economically
and socially than having somebody in a jail cell.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Oh yeah, and and true to like I would say,
an animal, but worse than you should never treat an
animal that way they're treating inmates. But I also wanted
to ask you when you were campaigning. I remember you
told me that people would make assumptions like you knew
Nancy Pelosi and like you weren't all you'll get together
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a talk, which I hick full ugh about that, but
I'm also not surprised like that she gets questions like
that as well.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Oh yeah, So, like this is one of those issues
where I'm just like I just want to like stand
on my porch and like shout it to the world
that the a political party is not an exclusive club,
right right. The only thing you have to do to
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be the Democratic candidate is win the Democratic primary. Right
so they the political party from from me at the
very bottom in my cities, like somewhat informal Democratic group,
all the way up to the DNC. There is no
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direct like there's no prime directive issued to candidates. There's
no litmus test, there's nothing. You win the primary, you're
the Democratic candidate. So I, for example, I did not
hear from the Alabama Democratic Party for the last three
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or four months of my campaign. They they did some
executive council executive committee elections, they switched leadership. I didn't
hear from them. They didn't give me money, they didn't
give me advice, they didn't give me like directives or
talking points, nothing. And so I think at the US
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congressional level, you you might hear from your state party more.
But another thing people don't know is that there is
no national Democratic Party, right like, like at no point
can you like walk into a building and be in
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the Democratic Party. There there's a party in almost each
county in the country. Then there's a state party in
each state, and then there's the Democratic National Committee, which
is like a board that that advises and governs the
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state parties. But there is no national party. It's it's
it's fifty one, I guess, fifty states plus Washington DC
fifty one parties that all come together every four years.
So like Nancy Pelosi could walk in my front door
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and say you have to do X y and Z
and I would say, ma'am, please leave the premises like
you have you have zero authority here. So that's something
that people, I think don't understand about parties that they're
not connected in that way, especially the Democrats. The Democrats
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are incredibly disorganized most of the time.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, yeah, what other issues are was this Anderson running on?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, so on the on the on the criminal justice piece,
you know, there's there's in private prisons. There's also she
wants to expand rehabilitation programs, especially for not for especially
for non violent drug adfenders. Right, Like, if you possession
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or even distribution a lot of the times is and
is an economic issue, right right. If you if you
if you don't see opportunities outside of your door, except
for you know, perhaps perhaps criminality, you might be drawn
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into that that might feel normal. So you need a
rehabilitation program that shows you, hey, this is how you
can actually get ahead without running a foul of the law.
Like for some reason, there's an idea that once you
reach twelfth grade, your education is over and you know
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everything you need to know, which is just oftentimes not
the case. That's why colleges exist, that's why job training
programs exist, that's why trade school exists. Right, also, decriminalize marijuana,
create pathways for legal sale of marijuana.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Absolutely, and.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
The first licenses for legal legal commercial sales should go
to those formerly incarcerated for non violent marijuana charges.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Oh, I completely agree.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Because oftentimes those non violent charges are black and brown,
black and brown people, and especially if they're in black
and brown communities and they're they're scooped up in this
drag net of the War on drugs. So would be
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I guess, hypocritical of the state to then legalize the
thing they were doing and saying, but you're still a
felon for having done it, exactly like you still can't
vote for having done it. But look at this guy
over here who got a loan from his parents and
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opened a dispensary. He's getting rich, but you you still
have to check that box that says convicted felon, so
you can't get a job. And it's there's been there's
an informal way, especially around like low level marijuana offenses.
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Because I grew up in a Stavia majority white suburb,
middle class, upper middle class, and if you were cut
by a police officer, like when I was in high
school with a small amount of marijuana. They would typically
just take it from you and send you on your way,
and you never entered the carceral state. I can guarantee
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that's not what happens in black and brown communities.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Right. Oh, well, that's lee or not. But I agree
with decriminalizing it absolutely and giving you the right to
assault to people who are full incarcerats for still things
so minor. Oh I couldn't agree. More like, I know people,
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you know, people that I'm close with that I'm atta
king or who were roughly convicted, who you know, have
big mistakes and who said, you know, they didn't know
how else to put food on the table. They did
turn to crime, they did turn to selling drugs, and they,
I mean, they did not know of another way. Something
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they want to do eventually when we get that Wrothfel
conviction overturned, is they want to do outreach programs like
such as what you know she's doing, you create rebol
patient programs. That's exactly what they want to get involved in.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I love that. Yeah, yeah, and uh. Similarly to the
for profit prisons, Elizabeth also advocates for eliminating the for
profit detention centers for immigrants, because those are I mean
those are those are prisons as well. They're prisons by
a different.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Name, m.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
To affirm asylum protections for immigrants, to create pathways to
legal immigration like these these are elements that can reduce
the devastating harm of the car soral state.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because that is
something that's been on my mind, So that those are
absolutely prisons.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
There, and there's so many people who, through circumstances beyond
their control, end up end up being caught into this
this this police state, into this incarceration, detention, uh you know, uh, probation,
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it's it's in a massive system, and it's it's grabbing
millions of people oftentimes just because of the circumstances, just
because they are poor, whether they are poor in in
you know, Birmingham, Alabama or Buenos Aire's Argentina, their circumstances
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end up end up with them in the carceral state.
And it's incredibly expensive for us, and it's not justice,
it's not justice oriented.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Let all tax money right there that we're spending it
on could go to other resources such as the educational system.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Absolutely, absolutely and these like as the border, these judges
and border patrol agents are overworked because they are tasked
with entering everybody into the control of the state, and
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it doesn't have to be like that is part of
what I don't mean, I don't consider I don't call
it a crisis, but that is part of what many
people in the media and the Republican Party called the crisis,
is that you create this bottleneck because you treat everybody
like criminals. If you don't treat them like criminals, you
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can greatly reduce the number of people in the criminal
justice system.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I was talking to one of my colleagues about that
on Instagram livestream. How you know this uh border crisis
that is absolutely untrue. Uh the border. Yeah, that's absolutely
untrue that we're not there's not an increase of crime
with immigrants coming in. That's factually untrue. Like I made
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sure to research that over and over before talking about
that on Instagram life, because I'm like, I don't want
to get anything wrong, but I knew that was wrong,
but still I'm like, let me do We'll check everything.
But yeah, that is incorrect. Uh, like people coming in,
I'll that's fear mongering. Honestly, it just boiled down to it.
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It's stear mongering. And you know we were seeing yeah,
like you said, more of that, you know in the media,
like especially last night. But you know it happens more
often than people realize. Behind the scenes, like you said,
politicians were quiet about it, which again I hope this
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encourages more people to vote of local elections. To make
sure you're registered, and please check your registration, says too,
because if you moved, you may need to get reregistered.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Absolutely, also if you have for some reason. This is
specific to Alabama, but I'm sure it's happening in other states.
If you have ever had a non citizen ID or
registered as a non citizen in any manner and are
now a citizen, you need to check your voter registration
to get well. Thank you for the Secretary of State
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in Alabama just he basically he pulled a list of
basically everybody who had at any point a non citizen
ID or a non citizen designation and he and he
purged them from the voter roles. Okay, thanks to you. Yeah,
we're a non citizen, became a citizen and are now
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have the right and now have the right to vote,
you need to check your registration again, and.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
That's going to be in the description links to that.
So when it comes to all Elizabeth Anderson's campaign, how
can we find out more about her?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
The easiest way to find out is EA for Congress
dot com.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Eas I'll description, yeah, perfect, I'm make sure to have
that in just a description. As she on social media,
Yes she is, and.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
I am not on social media for real, so I
am not entirely sure what they are.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
But I can get back to me and we'll put
that into the description.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yes, I can perfect, perfect. I despise social media.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Well, if you ever like get back on a campaign trio,
I can definitely help you out there.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Oh god, I need it because because when I like,
I'll open it up and it's it's ads and it's
people selling stuff, okay people, it's people fighting, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Like the wild wild West.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, Like, I don't need this in my life. I
love myself too much. Closes, No, I understand.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
But something that I am thankful for is that it
has brought me to people who also have a passion
for helping the wrongfully convicted, you know, all when it
comes to all prison rehabilitation, ending the death tailting. I
have become more educated. That's how I found out about
Rossuel convictions to begin with.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Absolutely, it's absolutely a useful tool. You've got to wade
through the mud to get that.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Oh yeah, and you got to make sure to balance
it and not beyond it all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Like mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Look, that right there will paint your mental health. So
but I mean I can't be on it too much,
so mm hmm. But so yeah, like I said, you
ever need someone to help you out there, absolutely, because
that right there, that's no problem. That's work. So absolutely
yeah for me, like that's part of the job. So yeah,
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I don't mind doing that at all. But once again,
you know, we will get her social media and the description.
I'll make sure to follow her on everything, and like
I said, I'll get it. Hey, get everyone's you know, uh,
make sure everyone's registered to vote, you know, check your
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registration here in Alabama and make sure you definitely do
get that in the description. Christian, thank you for coming on.
I have a feeling you'll get back come back on
here very soon. I'd like to definitely, and what I'd
love to have miss Anderson on here, so thank you
for talking about her campaign you regarding politics as well,
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and again love to have you back on here soon.
But everyone else you know, thank you for tuning in.
We will all have everything linked and the description. Even
if you're not living in Alabama, you know we still
looked up idvite you to look at miss Anderson's campaign
and still give her your support, and as always, keep
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spreading that word zoon.
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
The points behind bars. I'm your host sar the Yarman.
I've got my friend Christian Colin here, who is up
on the chair of the Democratic Board and Hoover. Am
I getting that title correct?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, well it's the chair of the Hoover Democrats.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yes, there we go. Well, thank you, Christian, thank you
for coming on here. Do you mind introducing yourself?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
My name is Christian Coleman. I ran for the Democratic
I ran as the Democratic nominee for that area, the
Hoover area for the Alabama State Legislature in twenty twenty two,
and now I am chair of the Hoover Democrats in
which is in that area. And I tend to work
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on democratic campaigns around the suburbs of Birmingham.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
And just so everyone knows I voted for him, so
is on my social media.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
So and I appreciate that, of course, But.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
What got you interested in politics to begin with? What
made you decide, Okay, I want to run?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So the thing that got me interested first was actually
I was in my dorm room and they were in
the Senate and the House were debating Obamacare, right, and
I was watching them go back and forth. I was
watching them mess with the bill. I was watching the debate,
and it just struck me that there's you know, three
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hundred and thirty something million people in this country, and
that room in Washington, d C. Is the room where
these things are decided, you know, like like in Hamilton,
the room where it happens, right, And I was like,
I need to get in those rooms. If if that's
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where people's lives are made better or worse, I need
to get in that. I need to get in those
rooms to make people's lives better.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And in what year of that year college, doum, what
were you a sophomore?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
What year was that that would have been freshman year,
I was seven week. Yeah that's when they so, I
guess they started they started the the debates about it.
I guess. I guess I wasn't in my dorm because
I guess I was in my apartment in like oh nine.
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But you know, either way, memory gets hazy.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Oh yeah, memory does get hazy. Oh my gosh, it's
just like the past four years. Oh man. Yeah, yeah,
but still I remember those debates. I remember when John
McCain would not repeal a BoNT care. I that has
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always stayed in my mind. And uh I brought that
up to my husband recently when he wouldn't repeal it,
and so like, like you said, all that goes on
in that one room where it changed people's lives. And
that's when the reason why I keep stressing to people
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you need to pay attention in your local elections. You
need to get registered. Make sure to check on your
registration too, because politicians, you know, such the local ones
are the ones that make sure either things move forward
or we go back forward.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Now, Lisa Murkowski also voted no. So John John McCain
gets all the credit, but don't forget the women.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, you're right, I would be also given credit because
you know, he w the way Trump went after him, Yeah,
which is so disgusting. But you're right, and I thank
you for highlighting that. Don't forget the women exactly. And yeah, yeah,
because the media does not talk about that.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Well, I think it's because John McCain, like Lisa Murkowski,
is understood to be a little bit more I don't
want to call her a moderate, she's not. She's still
very much a conservative, a little bit more reasonable and
so and so they were never really counting on her vote,
but they were like John McCain, he's kind of a jerk.
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He'll he'll take people's health care away. So it was
shocking when he didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I think that was another reason why bother media
kind of latched onto too. But like I said, the
way Trump went after him as well, don't get me started.
But oh, so right now, you are campaigning for Elabit
Henderson all and thank you. Yeah, we talked about hetrible
(05:37):
names sometimes, but because you please tell me about her
campaign what she's running for.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Okay, So Elizabeth Anderson is running for the US Congress
in district sits in Alabama, and that's like, that's the
basically the suburbs of Birmingham out to the excerbs. Yes, perhaps,
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like it's definitely where I grew up. I'm not sure
whe where you're from. But Bluff Park Yeah yeah, okay
that's also do uber Democrats meet in Bluff Park? Okay, yep, yep, right, Uh,
we're getting insider baseball the right across from where tip
Top Girl used to be. Yes, that is that is
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where where we meet.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
So just you know, for those not familiar with Alabama
and you know steeked in Alabama, lower Uh District six
is the suburbs of Birmingham to the south of Birmingham
and a little bit I recall correctly to the east.
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So it's a fairly jerrymander district because it's got about
its counties in it. Because the city of Birmingham is
very blue, right, most urban areas are pretty blue. It's
got a high black and brown population. They tend to
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vote blue, so it's a very blue area. Republicans run
this state, so they drew up maps that scooped up
all of the wealthier, majority white suburbs out to some
more rural, majority white areas. So that's District six and
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it is just being honest, very red and it's run
all right, It's not run, it's our representatives, is currently
Gary Palmer. Yeah, and Gary Palmer is. He's not a
loud mouse like a lot of a lot of Republican
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representatives and these really safe seats are. He's quiet. But
that makes him more dangerous because instead of going on
Newsmax and O A N and hollering about immigrants eating
people's pets and things, he's actually doing the work. He
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wakes up every day and he's like, how can I
make people's lives worse? Right, and specifically he's like, how
can I make women's lives worse? How can I how
can I make their health outcomes worse?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I'm sure I'll talk about it. I'm sure this is
important to Sanderson. You know, women's healthcare?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, Oh of course, I mean I think, yes, definitely.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
She's a mother, she's a woman, she's a person with
a conscience. So Elizabeth Anderson is challenging him, she's the
Democratic candidate. She's challenging him in that district, my district
where I grew up, where I lived, where my two
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girls are growing up. And she is she is she
started a tech startup. That's her professional background. I met
her like in the office where she works, and she
explained me her tech startup. But I have a degree
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in poetry, so I didn't get any of it, but
it sounded it's sounded very smart. And then I've been
talking to her, I've been working with her, and she
is smart. She's smart, she's compassionate, she knows the issues.
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She's trying to do something good. She's trying to build
an organization of saying people in this red district.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I remember you and I have talked about like this.
One of the all things that caught my husband and
eyes eye when it came to your campaign was that
you know you are for you are pro choicees thing
you and I have talked about that you don't feel
comfortable all the government deciding no what a person with
a universe can cannot do. That's up to woman and
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her doctor.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah, exactly. I know a lot of things I could think.
I like to think that I'm a pretty intelligent guy,
but I don't. I don't know about like I'm not.
I'm not a medical expert. So were I to get elected,
and somebody asked me, you know, should this medical procedure
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be permitted. I would say, as a doctor, ask a
medical researcher, like at the at the FDA where they
approve where they approve drugs. It's not a bunch of
just anybody who managed to get fifty one percent of
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the vote. It's pharmacists and scientists and experts. And that's
the way we should treat medical care for for women
or anyone anyone with a uterus like that's it shouldn't
be just whoever is loud enough and can trick you
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into voting for them. Right.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And she also has a very big passional criminal justice Ah,
could you tell us about that?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yes, so in Alabama we have a very that it's
not specific to Alabama, but it is a big problem.
Is private prisons. Right, we have men and they're they're
they're for profit prisons, and the product is incarcerated people.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
So all of the incentives are to incarcerate as many
people as possible for as long as possible, and those
are clearly perverse incentives if you are actually seeking justice.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Right, So so she proposes ending private prisons. Well, yeah,
like the the idea of rehabilitating people, keeping them out
of thecarceral state is not conducive to profit making and
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it shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
No, this shouldn't be property of the state.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
No, be because I mean we we fought a war
about what or not you can keep people as property
m hm, and I thought we'd decided the issue, but
apparently not.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I thought so too, And then there's that loop holme
of thirteenth Amendment. And yeah, what I found out about
I would give It's the thing they need to be
more on sussed about in school. Oh, but how does
she feel about the death penalty?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I have not actually asked Elizabeth about that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Would love to ask her.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I would I.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Would love to ask her as well. And I would
love to get back to you on that. On about Elizabeth,
so not speaking, not.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Speak on your behalf.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, just for me, I think that any innocent person
being put to death by the state is a travesty
and there is no way in my mind to eliminate
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the possibility of the state killing an innocent person exactly. Therefore,
the state should not murder inmates.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I agree now that it's gone from one in eight
people are at of excuse now gone to one and seven,
and like there's no way to eliminate that completely.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
You can't, no, because in the eighties we could not
imagine DNA evidence, right, and then DNA exonerates all these
people who have been incarcerated for however long. Yeah, so
what technology innovation is going to come along in the
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future and we look back and we're like, damn, we
killed that guy in twenty twenty four, and now it
turns out he was innocent based on this thing we
couldn't even have imagined in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
And some things we do have access to, some people
do have the DNA evidence, but state doesn't care.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yeah. Well, you also get into the issues of elected
of positions that are electoral positions.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And so yet again we go back to perverse incentives.
Like I don't want to get too far afield, but
back when Bill Clinton was running for the first time
in nineteen ninety two, he was governor of Arkansas, and
there was a a I believe he was mentally handicapped
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man who was on death row, and Bill Clinton flew
back to Arkansas, left the campaign trails, flew back to
Arkansas so that this so that he could oversee the
execution of this person who quite likely was not, was not,
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should not have been deemed fit to stand trial because
he wanted to appear tough on crime. So you've got
these incentives where not only are there mistakes made in
the criminal justice system, but there's also people who for
you know, electoral reasons, will kill an innocent person. Yeah,
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and that's you know, that's disgusting, but it is the reality.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yep. Oh yeah, I've read about that, and I've also
you know, all I want to say, witness it, but
you know, as it's happening, I'm you know, basically watching
it on the news as it's happening, like for instance,
Ivan Canto all innocent man all February this year, all
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that was there, the DNA everything, and Governor luck knew
this van was innocent. I'm all I can sit there
is you know, encourage people to call him up. But
I'm saying they're going, he knows he's innocent, but he's
again wanting to appear tough on crime.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
M M no, No, I mean worse than that.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Worse than tough on crime, just making people miserable.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah. Now, as far as Elizabeth Anders and I've not
asked that specific question, but I am willing to say that.
Whenever I have asked her a question about like, you know,
what's our position on this, what's our position on that?
It has been a position that is oriented towards improving
lives increasing justice. So obviously, obviously the death penalty does
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not improve lives or increase justice.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
No, it doesn't, so solve the problem.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I feel confident whatever her position is, and I can
after and get back to you. Whatever her position is,
I'm sure it is it is reasonable and justice based.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Love to have her on here. Yeah, I'd love to
talk to her about all this because I like the
victuals in for profit prisons and you know, like just
to give everyone a little run down here. You know,
state makes money off of each inmate. Say what the
federal government does as well, But we're talking about state
right now. Makes money off of each inmate because our
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tax dollars goes to house them each day they're in
there and put even more show on death row. So yeah,
but here's the thing with them getting rearbilitated, going back
getting jobs, they become taxing citizens, so money still going
back to the state.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah. Yeah, definitely having a having a tax paying citizen
a positive contributor to to the social fabric and to
the economy. Is is infinitely more valuable monetarily, like, economically
and socially than having somebody in a jail cell.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Oh yeah, and and true to like I would say,
an animal, but worse than you should never treat an
animal that way they're treating inmates. But I also wanted
to ask you when you were campaigning. I remember you
told me that people would make assumptions like you knew
Nancy Pelosi and like you weren't all you'll get together
(19:34):
a talk, which I hick full ugh about that, but
I'm also not surprised like that she gets questions like
that as well.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Oh yeah, So, like this is one of those issues
where I'm just like I just want to like stand
on my porch and like shout it to the world
that the a political party is not an exclusive club,
right right. The only thing you have to do to
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be the Democratic candidate is win the Democratic primary. Right
so they the political party from from me at the
very bottom in my cities, like somewhat informal Democratic group,
all the way up to the DNC. There is no
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direct like there's no prime directive issued to candidates. There's
no litmus test, there's nothing. You win the primary, you're
the Democratic candidate. So I, for example, I did not
hear from the Alabama Democratic Party for the last three
(20:49):
or four months of my campaign. They they did some
executive council executive committee elections, they switched leadership. I didn't
hear from them. They didn't give me money, they didn't
give me advice, they didn't give me like directives or
talking points, nothing. And so I think at the US
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congressional level, you you might hear from your state party more.
But another thing people don't know is that there is
no national Democratic Party, right like, like at no point
can you like walk into a building and be in
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the Democratic Party. There there's a party in almost each
county in the country. Then there's a state party in
each state, and then there's the Democratic National Committee, which
is like a board that that advises and governs the
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state parties. But there is no national party. It's it's
it's fifty one, I guess, fifty states plus Washington DC
fifty one parties that all come together every four years.
So like Nancy Pelosi could walk in my front door
(22:23):
and say you have to do X y and Z
and I would say, ma'am, please leave the premises like
you have you have zero authority here. So that's something
that people, I think don't understand about parties that they're
not connected in that way, especially the Democrats. The Democrats
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are incredibly disorganized most of the time.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, yeah, what other issues are was this Anderson running on?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, so on the on the on the criminal justice piece,
you know, there's there's in private prisons. There's also she
wants to expand rehabilitation programs, especially for not for especially
for non violent drug adfenders. Right, Like, if you possession
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or even distribution a lot of the times is and
is an economic issue, right right. If you if you
if you don't see opportunities outside of your door, except
for you know, perhaps perhaps criminality, you might be drawn
(23:37):
into that that might feel normal. So you need a
rehabilitation program that shows you, hey, this is how you
can actually get ahead without running a foul of the law.
Like for some reason, there's an idea that once you
reach twelfth grade, your education is over and you know
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everything you need to know, which is just oftentimes not
the case. That's why colleges exist, that's why job training
programs exist, that's why trade school exists. Right, also, decriminalize marijuana,
create pathways for legal sale of marijuana.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Absolutely, and.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
The first licenses for legal legal commercial sales should go
to those formerly incarcerated for non violent marijuana charges.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Oh, I completely agree.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Because oftentimes those non violent charges are black and brown,
black and brown people, and especially if they're in black
and brown communities and they're they're scooped up in this
drag net of the War on drugs. So would be
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I guess, hypocritical of the state to then legalize the
thing they were doing and saying, but you're still a
felon for having done it, exactly like you still can't
vote for having done it. But look at this guy
over here who got a loan from his parents and
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opened a dispensary. He's getting rich, but you you still
have to check that box that says convicted felon, so
you can't get a job. And it's there's been there's
an informal way, especially around like low level marijuana offenses.
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Because I grew up in a Stavia majority white suburb,
middle class, upper middle class, and if you were cut
by a police officer, like when I was in high
school with a small amount of marijuana. They would typically
just take it from you and send you on your way,
and you never entered the carceral state. I can guarantee
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that's not what happens in black and brown communities.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Right. Oh, well, that's lee or not. But I agree
with decriminalizing it absolutely and giving you the right to
assault to people who are full incarcerats for still things
so minor. Oh I couldn't agree. More like, I know people,
(26:35):
you know, people that I'm close with that I'm atta
king or who were roughly convicted, who you know, have
big mistakes and who said, you know, they didn't know
how else to put food on the table. They did
turn to crime, they did turn to selling drugs, and they,
I mean, they did not know of another way. Something
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they want to do eventually when we get that Wrothfel
conviction overturned, is they want to do outreach programs like
such as what you know she's doing, you create rebol
patient programs. That's exactly what they want to get involved in.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I love that. Yeah, yeah, and uh. Similarly to the
for profit prisons, Elizabeth also advocates for eliminating the for
profit detention centers for immigrants, because those are I mean
those are those are prisons as well. They're prisons by
a different.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Name, m.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
To affirm asylum protections for immigrants, to create pathways to
legal immigration like these these are elements that can reduce
the devastating harm of the car soral state.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because that is
something that's been on my mind, So that those are
absolutely prisons.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
There, and there's so many people who, through circumstances beyond
their control, end up end up being caught into this
this this police state, into this incarceration, detention, uh you know, uh, probation,
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it's it's in a massive system, and it's it's grabbing
millions of people oftentimes just because of the circumstances, just
because they are poor, whether they are poor in in
you know, Birmingham, Alabama or Buenos Aire's Argentina, their circumstances
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end up end up with them in the carceral state.
And it's incredibly expensive for us, and it's not justice,
it's not justice oriented.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Let all tax money right there that we're spending it
on could go to other resources such as the educational system.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Absolutely, absolutely and these like as the border, these judges
and border patrol agents are overworked because they are tasked
with entering everybody into the control of the state, and
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it doesn't have to be like that is part of
what I don't mean, I don't consider I don't call
it a crisis, but that is part of what many
people in the media and the Republican Party called the crisis,
is that you create this bottleneck because you treat everybody
like criminals. If you don't treat them like criminals, you
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can greatly reduce the number of people in the criminal
justice system.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I was talking to one of my colleagues about that
on Instagram livestream. How you know this uh border crisis
that is absolutely untrue. Uh the border. Yeah, that's absolutely
untrue that we're not there's not an increase of crime
with immigrants coming in. That's factually untrue. Like I made
(30:21):
sure to research that over and over before talking about
that on Instagram life, because I'm like, I don't want
to get anything wrong, but I knew that was wrong,
but still I'm like, let me do We'll check everything.
But yeah, that is incorrect. Uh, like people coming in,
I'll that's fear mongering. Honestly, it just boiled down to it.
(30:45):
It's stear mongering. And you know we were seeing yeah,
like you said, more of that, you know in the media,
like especially last night. But you know it happens more
often than people realize. Behind the scenes, like you said,
politicians were quiet about it, which again I hope this
(31:05):
encourages more people to vote of local elections. To make
sure you're registered, and please check your registration, says too,
because if you moved, you may need to get reregistered.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Absolutely, also if you have for some reason. This is
specific to Alabama, but I'm sure it's happening in other states.
If you have ever had a non citizen ID or
registered as a non citizen in any manner and are
now a citizen, you need to check your voter registration
to get well. Thank you for the Secretary of State
(31:41):
in Alabama just he basically he pulled a list of
basically everybody who had at any point a non citizen
ID or a non citizen designation and he and he
purged them from the voter roles. Okay, thanks to you. Yeah,
we're a non citizen, became a citizen and are now
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have the right and now have the right to vote,
you need to check your registration again, and.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
That's going to be in the description links to that.
So when it comes to all Elizabeth Anderson's campaign, how
can we find out more about her?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
The easiest way to find out is EA for Congress
dot com.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Eas I'll description, yeah, perfect, I'm make sure to have
that in just a description. As she on social media,
Yes she is, and.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
I am not on social media for real, so I
am not entirely sure what they are.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
But I can get back to me and we'll put
that into the description.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yes, I can perfect, perfect. I despise social media.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Well, if you ever like get back on a campaign trio,
I can definitely help you out there.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Oh god, I need it because because when I like,
I'll open it up and it's it's ads and it's
people selling stuff, okay people, it's people fighting, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Like the wild wild West.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, Like, I don't need this in my life. I
love myself too much. Closes, No, I understand.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
But something that I am thankful for is that it
has brought me to people who also have a passion
for helping the wrongfully convicted, you know, all when it
comes to all prison rehabilitation, ending the death tailting. I
have become more educated. That's how I found out about
Rossuel convictions to begin with.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Absolutely, it's absolutely a useful tool. You've got to wade
through the mud to get that.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Oh yeah, and you got to make sure to balance
it and not beyond it all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Like mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Look, that right there will paint your mental health. So
but I mean I can't be on it too much,
so mm hmm. But so yeah, like I said, you
ever need someone to help you out there, absolutely, because
that right there, that's no problem. That's work. So absolutely
yeah for me, like that's part of the job. So yeah,
(34:16):
I don't mind doing that at all. But once again,
you know, we will get her social media and the description.
I'll make sure to follow her on everything, and like
I said, I'll get it. Hey, get everyone's you know, uh,
make sure everyone's registered to vote, you know, check your
(34:37):
registration here in Alabama and make sure you definitely do
get that in the description. Christian, thank you for coming on.
I have a feeling you'll get back come back on
here very soon. I'd like to definitely, and what I'd
love to have miss Anderson on here, so thank you
for talking about her campaign you regarding politics as well,
(35:00):
and again love to have you back on here soon.
But everyone else you know, thank you for tuning in.
We will all have everything linked and the description. Even
if you're not living in Alabama, you know we still
looked up idvite you to look at miss Anderson's campaign
and still give her your support, and as always, keep
(35:21):
spreading that word zoon.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Me afraid of it side, be care, foodstie, not every
light's gone and guide you baby, don't add a very
nice back. Keep it close to your house. I love
the Preshion's kind of shave you crazy because you as
to the man nice in the morning. It's all kind
(35:44):
of it's jolly afraid of It's say, be care, foodstacke,
not every I didn't gone, and guide you.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, when I blow up, I'm gonna saw a highlight.
Peter Pan, real life, be living out my dreams, come
waking up persent a form of land, whole wrist covered
up in ice. Dealership never asked the price.
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