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February 5, 2024 52 mins
Nie odkładaj tego Podcastu na później! W dzisiejszej rozmowie poruszamy problem powszechnie znany, będący przyczyną wielu problemów natury psychologicznej - prokrastynacji.

Czym jest prokrastynacja, czy i jakie są jej biologiczne uwarunkowania?
Co jest kluczowe w terapii prokrastynacji?

Zapraszam do Ciekawego bardzo wywiadu z moimi gośćmi:
dr Markiem Wypychem Pracownik naukowy pracowni obrazowania mózgu, w Instytucie Biologii Doświadczalnej im. Marcelego Nęckiego PAN. Studiował matematykę na Uniwersytecie Warszawskim, a w 2009 r. uzyskał tytuł doktora nauk biologicznych w zakresie neurofizjologii. Od 2013 r. zajmuje się badaniem aktywności ludzkiego mózgu z wykorzystaniem funkcjonalnego rezonansu magnetycznego (fMRI). Interesują go mechanizmy samokontroli oraz wpływ emocji na funkcje wykonawcze. Kieruje m.in. projektem „Neuronalne korelaty prokrastynacji” realizowanym w ramach grantu Narodowego Centrum Nauki.

dr. Joachimem Kowalskim Adiunkt w Pracowni Psychopatologii Eksperymentalnej. Realizuje grant SONATINA pod tytułem „Rola nastawień percepcyjnych, przekonań metapoznawczych i funkcji uwagowych w powstawaniu i utrzymywaniu się halucynacji słuchowych u osób chorujących na schizofrenię” (NCN 2020/36/C/HS6/00420). Obecnie również realizuje projekt OPUS w konsorcjum razem z dr. Markiem Wypychem (kierownik projektu, LOBI IBD PAN) i prof. Jarosławem Michałowskim (USWPS w Poznaniu) pod tytułem „Psychoterapia prokrastynacji - skuteczność oraz mechanizmy neuronalne i behawioralne Terapii Poznawczo-Behawioralnej oraz Restrykcji Czasu Pracy” (NCN 2021/43/B/HS6/02024) Przed objęciem stanowiska w Pracowni doktor Kowalski pracował w Centrum Pomocy Psychologicznej Uniwersytetu Warszawskiego, bródnowskim Stowarzyszeniu Pomost, odbył wiele staży klinicznych oraz obronił doktorat na Wydział Psychologii UW. W trakcie studiów doktoranckich pracował w grancie dr hab. Małgorzaty Dragan, gdzie zajmował się prowadzeniem badań dotyczących neuronalnych korelatów syndromu poznawczo-uwagowego. Jego naukowe zainteresowania dotyczą metapoznawczych modeli psychopatologii, terapii metapoznawczych, mechanizmów i skuteczności oddziaływań terapeutycznych. Odbył 4-letnie szkolenie psychoterapeutyczne w podejściu poznawczo-behawioralnym oraz jest członkiem Polskiego Towarzystwa Terapii Poznawczej i Behawioralnej.

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