S7E2. She was one tough old mama: Foul Play (1978)

Fellow Weirding Way Media podcasters Chris Stachiw and Mike White are back on the show to discuss Foul Play (1978). Written and directed by Colin Higgins (Harold and Maude, 9 to 5) the film stars Goldie Hawn and Chevy Chase in their first box office smash! Hawn plays Gloria Mundy who becomes embroiled in a Hitchcokian conspiracy plot to assassinate the Pope. Chase stars as Lt. Tony Carlson who is tasked with trying to protect her and track down the band of assassins: Whitey Jackson, Scarface, The Turk, and Rupert Stiltskin aka The Dwarf. The film also stars Dudley Moore, Burgess Meredith, and Brian Dennehy.

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Projection Booth podcast mister Mike White,Watch out for the Elves, Oh Burgess.
Today we are talking about what arewe talking about? And we're talking
about foul play. Wow. Waita second, hold on, I am
confused. I almost said parents.So now in October on your show,
do you just don't do horror movies? That's right, you should do every

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yeah, every year like everybody elsein October. All of a sudden,
it's like I love horror movies.Right, It's like, no, the
horror movie guy does something else inOctober. That's what you should do every
year. Although I will say thismovie scared me when I was a kid,
so oh yeah, we'll get tothat in a little bit. But
we are talking about foul Play,written and directed by Colin Higgins and starring

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the power duo of Chevy Chase andGoldie Hawn. It is a love letter
to Hitchcock snarishness in a way.It was a massive hit back in nineteen
seventy eight, Chevy's first starring role. If you don't count Groove Tube or
Tunnel Vision, which, to befair, I don't think we should be

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counting group. I'll take that back. I mean, the bit of him
getting smacked around and then whacked onthe head while they're singing is pretty funny,
and the behind the scenes fact thathe essentially got almost knocked out by
Ken Shapiro is pretty funny. Themovie also stars Burgess, Meredith, Rachel
Roberts, Dudley Moore in his Americandebut, I believe, and Brian Dennahey

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for good measure. So I believe, Chris, this was a first time
watch for you, Yes, andwhat did you think? I enjoyed chevy
Chase a lot. He's in oneof my favorite movies, which is Fletch.
I might be biased, and I'mprobably a little biased. And obviously
you just mentioned the Groove Tube,and we just did an episode on the

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Groove Tube in September on the CultureCast and we talked about chevy Chase there,
and I'll mention the same thing herethat I did there. It's kind
of hard to have a conversation aboutchevy Chase without going, oh, but
by the way, like this guytorpedoed his own career and it's a shame.
And I will say it's even moreof a shame for me now watching
this movie, because this movie reallyshows what his range can be in terms

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of a comedic actor. But it'salso the thing that I've never really seen
and I'm not saying I didn't seeit in Fletch, but as like a
leading man type. I'm not sayinghe wasn't a leading man in Fletch,
but it's different because that's a comedy. It's like saying, was Jim Carrey
a leading man in all those comedieshe was in in the nineties. I
guess you could say he was,but I think we use the term vehicle

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less leading actor type designations. Butit's just weird for me to see Chevy
Chase in a movie where he's playingthe romantic opposite of Goldiehunt. All that
being said, I enjoyed this movieimmensely. Of course, if I came
on here and said I didn't likeit, I feel like I would be
drawn and quartered, yeah, Iwould be understandably walked out of town,

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and by walking, I mean chasedout with pitchforks and torches, because there's
no I don't think anybody would saythat this is a bad movie. I
don't understand how you could. It'swell remembered and well regarded for good reason,
and everything about it is a goodtime. I enjoyed myself immen saying
I'm looking forward to talking about it, and Mike, I know you've seen
it, what's your experience with thefilm. I can't remember how many times

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this was on television when I wasyounger, would catch it at various parts,
and then also kind of mixed itup with other things, a lot
of the things that it was payinghomage to, Like I kept thinking towards
the end that there was going tobe a different assassination attempt, and it
all had to do with like asymbol crashing, and I was like,

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oh, wait, no, that'sactually the man who knew too much.
So rewatching it now, all theseyears later, it does really make me
appreciate especially just how dark cute GoldenCon is. And I love all the
stuff of her friend and the ardentfeminism and stuff, which was hilarious.

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I think it drags a little bitat times, but otherwise I just had
a delightful time watching this, andit even made me go back and rewatch
seems like old times, and Ihad a lot of fun with that because
I also used to mix those upbecause I thought I thought personally that there
were probably like three or four GoldieChevy movies, yeah, only to find
out that there were two. Yeah. I think when you brought this up

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back when we were talking about murderby death and we're trying to figure out,
you know, what they had beenin, and it's like, oh
no, it's just those two.And I remember as a kid like they
were box office gold so you think, you know, they must have been
in like three four just every year, let's have a new Goldie Chevy movie.

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But nope, just those two.And like you, my first time
watching this was definitely on TV.And I don't know, probably this came
out in seventy eight, so itmight not have been on TV until nineteen
eighty, but it was on quiteoften, and I watched it every time
it was on because I got ahuge kick out of it. The movie
that I not confuse it with,but that I always pair it with in

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my head is Marathon Man, andI think there are some superficial similarities to
the storyline of the innocent man gettingdrawn into this conspiracy, but I really
think it has to do with thealbino character in this Whitey Jackson clever name,
and that guy that tries to takeout Roy Scheider at the beginning of

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Marathon Man. He's got those reallypale eyes, So I think I just
always think of those eyes, thoseLight Eyes in the same way. And
like I said, not confuse themovies, but I think they'd make an
interesting double feature. Well, thatwhole wrong Man thing, I mean that
is just the basis of almost regreatHitchcock, at least the thrillers, you

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know, like north By Northwest withthe whole Roger Thornhill thing and being mistaken
for somebody or picking up something thatyou don't know actually has significance. So
I like the mcguffin in this movie. And I like that the mcguffin gets
burned to a crisp and nobody everknows what the mcguffin is. It's just

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a role of film. Who knowswhat's on the film kind of like that.
I am amazed at this writer director'sbody of work to know that he
wrote Harold and maud In nine tofive and The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas,
which I understand was a play beforeit became a movie. But my

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god, that track record and SilverStreaks of Silver Streak. I haven't seen
The Devil's Daughter, though, directedby our old pal Chris Jeno's Wark,
not our old pal, well fatherAlone's old pal, our old pal By
Associations right, Yeah, yeah,yeah, don't mix me up with that
Jinneau's work. Guy. Yeah.I watched Colin Higgins's last two movies both

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this year, The Best Little Whorehousein Texas and Nine to five Nice,
and I like this more than bothof those substantially. I haven't seen Harold
and Maud yet. Oh wow,that's fucking great. Yeah, it sure
is. Might be covering it nextyear maybe, who knows. The list
has has not been set completely instone, but it's already on the list,

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so yes, I will finally bewatching it next year. But the
thing I want to mention, it'skind of surprising because just to address what
you guys were talking about with ChevyChase and Goldiehn, why did nobody watch
this movie and go this is theduo we need for National Lampoon Vacation.
Oh yeah, I don't understand,Like I'm not saying Beverly DiAngelo and Chevy
Chase had bad chemistry, but thechemistry is so much better here that to

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your point, Mike and Mark,I don't understand how this wasn't just a
thing like the way sr K andKagel are an Indian cinema, Like,
how was this not like still athing. Frankly, there are many reasons
why, maybe one specific reason why. That being said, I don't understand
how this wasn't more of a thing. Yeah, I mean they're wonderful together,

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Yeah, like really wonderful. Toget most of it for me has
to do with her. Oh yeah, I think back when I was a
kid it was really him because Iwas so obsessed with Saturday Night Live and
all the actors, and I triedto see in the movies that they were
in, you know, if Icould, if they weren't rated R like
this in nineteen forty one. That'swhy that's still a favorite of mine.

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And like you mentioned Christ the beginning, if you saw this after seeing most
of his other work, you wouldbe surprised because it's not the bumbling idiot,
except for two examples that I thinkwere thrown in because it was Chevy
chas in this movie if it hadbeen somebody else. Those two bits.

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One at the beginning at the partywhere they first meet their meat cute and
he knocks over all the stuff onthat little bar, typical Chevy Chase slapstick
crap that I abhorr. And thenthe really unnecessary fall into the water when
he's taken her to his houseboat,and it's like, what was the point

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of that, just because that's whathe's known for. Yeah, that was
that was real. I mean,it's very important that we have the meat
cute at the beginning and that weestablished it he's kind of a jerk,
and get a little bit more ofher backstory, even while way more than
his, just because he doesn't showup for like another half an hour the

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first full act, he is notpart of other than that little beginning part
of it, right, which isnice. I was surprised by it's nice
though, because it's her story.Oh yeah, it's totally her story.
Well, and that's what I didn'trealize going into this movie. Again,
like as the uninitiated here, asthe one who had never seen it before,
I did not expect it to bea Goldiehn movie more than a Chevy

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Chase movie, which is I thinkis fuck it to both of your points.
I think it's fine. I thinkit actually age is better because it's
a Goldiehan movie and not a ChevyChase movie. And again I'm not saying
Chevy Chase's movies haven't aged well,but has anyone seen Modern Problems. Oh,
I used to watch that all thetime. Chevy Chase has My Kicks.

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Yeah, that movie's a wild andhe's the lead in that. You
know, I'm not Again, there'splenty of good Chevy Chase lead movies,
but I think this age is betterbecause I think Goldie hon just she will
not ever stop being cute and like, whatever this energy is, she still
has it. And Chevy Chase justdoesn't have this energy anymore, the kind

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of energy that anyone wants to bearound. And it's a shame. It
is a shame, and there's it'sit's almost like the elephant in the room.
It can't not be addressed. Butit's really hard to overlook it now
given that goldiehn again is kind ofa perennial still, I mean, she's
honestly. The thing that's hard towatch this movie is just not to see
Kate Hudson on screen all the time, because her energy is so similar to

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Goldie Han's. Like, and again, I haven't seen enough goldiehann movies.
This is the first Goldihan movie I'veever seen. Oh wow, So that's
why it's like, I'm just surprisedby how similar the energy is, like
almost on the nose. Well,and this really put her on the map
too, because this see why,oh yeah, it reminds me of Barbara
streisand and What's Up, Doc,Like it's got that same level of just

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like you're too cute for words,but you have a level of autonomy that
is also very appealing. Some guysdon't find this level of autonomy appealing.
They just don't. If you do, you really do. And that's what
that's the energy that Goldiehn has alwayshad. That's why I say it's like
that Kate Hudson has that same energy. It would lead me to believe the

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interviews that I've seen with Kate Hudson, she suffers no fools, and I
don't think Goldiehn does either. No, you know, especially someone has been
with Kurt Russell for like ever,you know, so another person that we
the three of us have talked collectivelyabout before, I believe or no,
I guess no, yeah we didwith the Off podcast maybe, but yes,
yeah, but no. I justher energy is so right right with

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the Dexter Yeah, yeah, rightright. Her energy is just so infectious
that you just can't help but bedrawn in. I'm not saying Chevy Chase
isn't like that, but it wasthe smart idea to make this her story,
and he pops in from time totime. I mean, she was
definitely in known quantity. A lotof people knew her from her days on

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Laughing, but she had been inthings like Cactus Flower and Dollars Signed,
the Warren Beady film, and Shampoo, the Warren Beaty film Butterflies Are Free,
Sugar Line Express, where she wasthe star of the show. Though
I don't know how big of ahit that was. Definitely wasn't level,
that's for sure, but this wouldput her into things like Private Benjamin seems

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like old Times, which I mentionedbefore, best Friends with your old pal
Bert Reynolds, and then things likeSwingshift, Protocol, Wildcasts and she just
you know, overboard. This reallypicture her career into high gear. And
she's been able to put some ofthe bad roles behind her, bad movies

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behind her very easily. And thenyou get stuff like House Sitter and Death
Becomes Her. I mean, shewas really cranked these things out all the
way into the nineties. She's adelight in this Oh movie and in most
movies she's that delightful character that youjust can't stop looking at. And yeah,
I kind of forget about that untilI rewatch this. And I mean,

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besides her attractiveness, and I thinkto your point, Chris, and
especially in this movie where it's notjust a bubbly ditz, right, she's
on her own, and she seemsto be fine on her own. That
whole opening scene with her and thatgal, her friend that's getting married.
I guess this is a engagement party. Looks like a shower or something.

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Yeah, and she's saying, youknow, get out there and show some
cleavage and blah blah blah. She'slike, I'm just gonna take a drive
and go see a movie by myself. And you don't get a lot of
that. Even in nineteen seventy eightthey get thrown together. I kind of
almost wish that her and Chevy didn'thook up on screen. It is a
little forced at the end, likehe's look, he's charming, that's the

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problem, Like as much as again, like he is charming, and he
has the best cleft chin in theindustry. For every time I see it,
you shave that thing. I don'tknow that's gonna be tough man.
That's gonna be tought. But theother crazy thing is like watching this,
like chevy Chase's voice sounds very differentin this movie as well. I don't

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know, he's like, he's nothamming it up, he's trying to play
straight. That's a little affect goingon. Yeah, it's a very different
version of chevy Chase than I wasexpecting, because again, I've really only
seen the things that most people whohave seen his like eighties stuff have seen
Fletch Funny Funcation, Yeah, andin the vacation movies. But you know

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what's funny is like I almost alwaysforget that that's him in the vacation movies.
Those are such their own thing aswell, in terms of the performance
that he's doing there, because they'retrying to make him lovable, which again
to me, always seems like abad idea, because chevy Chase is at
his best when he is keeping youat arm's length or further away, which
is why Fletch is such an interestingcharacter. And it's hard in those movies

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to take any of the relationships thathe has with women in those movies seriously
because it's like, this guy shouldprobably not have anyone who's actually actively interested
in him long term, a longstream of one night stands, because that's
the kind of guy that he's portrayinghimself to be, and in this movie
it verges on that, but theydo kind of hold it back to make

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the cutesiness happen between the two ofthem. But I agree with you,
I think it would have been betterif they had allowed him to be a
little bit more of a dickhead.But he's kind of a creep. He's
on the edge. Yeah, he'son the edge of that Cadha character.
Yeah yeah. But once that scenestarts, I'm like going, wait a
minute, this isn't from Caddy Shack. Oh okay, so does he have
a houseboard in Caddy Shack. Iknow he's got the groovy slide that goes

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into the pool, But I'm like, this is very similar to that seduction
scene in Caddy Shack in my headright now, and the Thai Web character
is essentially what I think he shouldhave been here, where it's just like
more of an arm's length away,just more of a dickhead. And again,
like it just suits Chevy Chase's personality. Not to keep commenting on the

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person he is in reality. Butif you're going to play yourself, you're
known for being this person. Ithink it's best to just lean into it.
Was he going to be Venkman inthe Spuso's movie? Because it shares
a lot of that same energy tome, I know, John Candy or
Jim John Belushi were supposed to bea right, just that whole thing of

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like this, Really, Vinkman shouldn'tend up with Sigourney Weaver. Is it
any more palatable if it is BillMurray? I guess maybe it is.
Yeah, Yeah, I've always likedthat energy that Chevy Chase brought to those
early roles. I mean I alwaysloved him as like land Shark, those
kind of things. His stint isthe weekend update host. You know,

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I thought that he was great inthose type of things. But yeah,
it's a little goes a long wayquite often. Well, And he was
also supposed to be in Animal Houseand Landis I think is the one that
said hell no, he was supposedto be not Otter Boone. I think
so one of the main friend guys, and he was like no, no,

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no, no, And I kindof understand it. It's because Chase
can't get out of his own fuckingway as a human being. And that's
this I mean again, like Isaid, we just talked about it on
the Culture Cast, like it isa shame, but it is not the
first time, not the last time, and he's not even the worst example
in a lot of ways. Likeno, we just talked about Mickey Rourke
like kind of similar thing, likedude can't get out of his own way

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in a lot of ways. LikeI think Chevy Chase is a better example,
because Chevy Chase right now, likewhat is he doing dison community?
Right? Yeah, if you weren'tthat guy, you'd still be having a
career. I mean, you probablywould have aged gracefully like a Steve Martin
and been on a immensely successful Hulushow with Martin. Short, It's almost

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like there's a third fucking spot inthere for you, Ding Dong, because
you were in the Three Amigos withthem as well, you know what I
mean. Like it's such a selffulfilling prophecy when you have to act like
this character in movies, but youalso happen to be that person in reality,
and you can't keep the two thingsseparate. In this movie he plays
Lieutenant Carlson Tony, and as wementioned, they run into each other at

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this party, and then it becomesGoldiehan's story because she gets wrapped into this
conspiracy by picking up a hitchhiker,which you just never do. Bob Scott
aka Scottie, who has broken downon the freeway as she's heading back into
San Francisco. She's ready to takea chance again. She's ready to put

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her love on the line. Youcould say. She decides to meet him
at the movie that she's going tolater, which I believe is a made
up movie. We need to talkabout that. Yeah, it's this Gun
for Hire, but there, Yeah, there's no Chinese fisherman in this Gun

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for Hire, And yeah, theposter is something else. This gun is
mine or something like that. SoI'm looking it up like a dunce and
I'm going, wait a minute,this isn't even a real movie. Are
they showing a real movie? Iguess. So it's actual shots from this
Gun for Hire? Okay, thankfullyAlan Ladd up on screen. Yeah,
he shows up and he's in apoor state, and he keeps mumbling these

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phrases that she is confusing, andhe passes off his pack of cigarettes to
her. That has a role offilm in it, and this leads to
all kinds of mistakes and wrong mantype situations where the albino stilt skin and
scarfacer after her and that woman,the woman character, I never remembered her.

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She plays pretty prominent role. AndI especially like that she rolls her
eyes at the archbishop character, theone who replaced his brother. They've got
this whole long backstory. They've beenworking at this whole what was it like,
anti church league for since the sixties, and this is the church is

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seventy eight. Yeah, very interesting, that very topical. Yeah. I
was listening to her spiel and going, sign me up. I agree on
these conglomerates. I think she callsthe especially the Catholic Church or that's mainly
what they're referencing here, and billiondollar industries that are going on tax free.

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And I was like, hmmm,Yes, she had two names,
so that makes it a little toughto remember what her character's name was.
Yes, yes, Urda, Iguess is what she's going by now.
She's in Picnic at Hanging Rock.I just watched that with my daughter.
I was like, I know,that face from something, and I would
not never have guessed it was foulplay. It was funny. I just

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watch a video on comparing the SydneyLumett murder on the Orient Express the Brana
Murder on the Express, and thereshe is Hildegard Schmidt in the seventy four
version, so she was on aroll at this point in her career as
well. Yeah, you know whatkind of an odd connection. I think

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it's pretty interesting that the three ofus are talking about this movie. The
thing that this movie reminds me ofalmost the most, and this could be
an interesting double feature in terms ofthe theme and the direction that the movie's
going for Naked Gun. Oh okay, especially with Pope right, yeah,
yeah, right. I can totallysee that it's like an interesting double feature

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because this is kind of like themore serious Naked Gun. This movie is
serious but not really and I honestly, I think some of the more comedic
moments in this movie don't work verywell. I want to mention a friend
of well, he's part of theweirding way Media Network has this show is
Richard HadAM has Dudley more energy.Every time I see Dudley Moore in anything.

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I just think that's just our friendRichard. He and I watched Arthur
earlier this year and the podcast gotlost to the sands of time, which
is a shame because it was alot of fun and I had never seen
it before. But what's funny isI knew nothing about this movie other than
Chevy Chase and goldiehn R in it, and then I saw his name at
the beginning, and I was like, oh God, how is he in
this movie? Oh? How ishe in this movie? There a lot

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Yeah, I say, the momentsin this movie that maybe don't work as
well for me are almost entirely isolatedto Dudley Moore. Yeah, which is
a shame. And I think,Mike, you said, there's a moment
where this movie, there's some timewhere this movie drags Sitting in Dudley Moore's
apartment and watching him fucking dance mightbe just a step. It's like,

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hey, check out this crazy guy, check out this funny guy. For
like five minutes. It's like,you're over selling this dude way too hard.
Arthur is going to do a betterjob of making this person a palatable
thing for American audiences. This characteris like I don't want to see you
in anything like please go Away.It's like very it did put him on
the American map, though, it'sso put him on the map. And

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this is the scene I remember thebest from the movie. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know if we talked aboutthat back on the murder by Death
thing or at some other point,or maybe I'm just thinking of talking about
it with my daughter because I havewatched this with her and I said,
this is the stuff that I lovedas a kid, and it's so cringey.

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Now, yeah, not even justthis sexual nature of it, Like
I'm fine without him being a pervhis acting. I realized, Oh,
I don't think I'm that big ofa Dudley Moore fan. I watched that
stupid body swap movie, even thoughthat wasn't the episode I was on,
whoa stupid coming out of Hot Jesus. Watch that with my daughter as well,

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and I'm like, yeah, Ikind of think that his shtick is
not for me, like father likeson. You mean where he swapped bodies
with Kirk Cameron. Yes, Imean, to be fair, the movie
is set up for failure when he'sswapping bodies with Kirk fucking Cameron. Yeah,
it's a rough one though, Imean, for me, really begins
and ends with Bedazzled. He's soperfect in that movie. I haven't seen

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that in ages host that. It'sreally tough, And like, I remember
loving Arthur when I was a kid, when I went to the fucking movie
theater and saw that. I don'tthink I could watch it now because I
just remember him being a shitthead.Yeah, and more than anything, I
just fucking loved John Gilgod in therewhen he's just like I think I'm gonna

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take a bath, I shall alertthe media. He's great. I watched
Arthur earlier this year, and Ithink it holds up fine. And I
think it holds up fine because hegoes on a truly transformative journey by the
end of that movie, and Idon't think he's as much of a This
character is like off putting in alot of way, but like it's the
intent of the role, you know, But he's not a sleeze. When

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she turns around, so the wholesetup is that she's running away from Whitey
Jackson and Stiltskin goes into a barto hide, stumbles on him, says
take me home, and he's like, oh, you know, I'm about
to get lucky. My wildest dreamshave come true. Yeah, this incredibly
hot blonde sits down across from meand is demanding, and they take her

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back to my apartment. Yes,okay, where I apparently do not actually
get any ass, right, right, that's the joke, right, is
that he gets zero ass at all, right, which is why he's going
to the spa. The Strokes.Yeah, they meete it. Twosome's the
bar. She's looking out the windowto see if they're still following her for
a very long time, as youmentioned, Chris, and then when she

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turns around and finally sees what's goingon and says no, he shuts it
down. Yeah, he doesn't keepgoing. He doesn't. Oh you know,
come on, babe, all thatcrap. I mean, how unrealistic
would it be to have Dudley Moore, a small man, come on to
Goldiehan who's taller than him and couldkick his ass. That's the thing,
Like Goldiehan suffers, no fools?Does that matter to guys? I appreciated

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that because I didn't really remember that. He's like, okay, puts his
pants back on it, Like canI call you a cab. Yeah,
he's actually embarrassed to the way he'scovering up his heart boxer shorts and stuff.
I got to give the movie creditfor that, and I think that's
mostly due to the writer. Whenshe deflates the inflatable set, I'm like,

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I think that's a stand in forhis penis. Yeah, how about
this whole thing too. Of howyou mentioned her friend, Well, she's
got the two friends. She's gotthe one friend whose party she's at,
and she's got the other friend,Stella. Stella who was she might have
also been the friend in and cantsup the music. I'm not sure.

(29:02):
I'll have to look that up.I love how she is. All these
men are after you and they wantto get your pants, and you shouldn't
go home with anybody. She's basicallylike the cue of this movie. She
gives her like the brass knuckles andthis noise machine and mace, and I
can't remember she gives her anything elsebut Gloria. Throughout the rest of the

(29:22):
film. We'll use those things asthe story progresses, and I love that
she does. It's like, here'sall the gizmos, and now go ahead
and use these to defeat this bandof because you also forgot the turk is
part of that step too. Yeah, you mentioned scarface don Kalfa showing up.
I was so excited. I waslike, Oh cool, I get

(29:42):
to talk about Dan Kalfa in acontext that isn't just Barney Miller. This
is great. Well, speaking ofBarney Miller, Maryland Soko was in an
episode of Barney Miller. Oh nicesexer, good episode. Okay, I
knew she is familiar. She wasand can't stop the music. She's in
The Goodbye Girl, which is amovie I actually saw in the theater as

(30:03):
a kid. Wow. I thinka babysitter took us for some reason.
Yeah, the turk, Whitey Jackson, the albino Scarface, and Stiltskin,
which brings in the whole dwarf thing. So that's one of the other little
Billy Barty kind of why is BillyBarty in this movie? Is the question

(30:26):
great that I ask you. We'llget to that in a minute, because
I noticed something yesterday that I nevernoticed before. That gang of assassins or
whoever they all are. One ofthe cryptic things that Scotty says to Gloria
is beware of the Dwarf, andthat's what sets this all into action.
And I think of Burgess Meredith.Well, I haven't even mentioned Burgess Meredith

(30:48):
yet, who's an absolute delight inthis film. Her landlord, who is
also kind of a surrogate father figureand takes care of her, and if
he had a daughter, he wishedit would be her. He keeps fucking
up those lines about beware of theDwarf, look out for the elf,
beware of the midgets. They're takingover the world. Just makes me think

(31:08):
of that opening I forgot to mention. Before the party, we get that
little cold open of the archbishop drivingup to his mansion supposed to be San
Francisco, but it's a place inPasadena. I forget how great that little
opening, not even a montage,just that edit of when he comes into
the room and opens his dresser andsees himself in the mirror. Yeah,

(31:32):
and then it's just like Turns getsthe knife thrown at him, the needle
drops on the record, the Mikadostarts playing, and then the movie opens,
and it's like, man, that'sgreat, that's a great little what
the fuck is going on type ofthing. Well, it's so nice too,
that the Mikado comes back in thefinal scene too. It's like,
oh yeah, that's great, andthe whole idea of the opera and like

(31:52):
you said, you know, theman who Knew too Much and all these
other Hitchcock it's not like high anxietyin that way. Is where we're putting
a pin on it that these areall scenes from Hitchcock movies that were playing
on But it's just that underlying hitchcockyand feel to the movie and having it
the assassination take place at an opera, and even using San Francisco as the

(32:15):
locale, which he utilized in anumber of movies, most notably Vertigo Vertigo
and even I mean you could throwon the birds there Bay Area. That
gang of assassins is the most interestingpart. You mentioned don Kalfa and he
shows up at one point and thengets dispatched immediately in a very dial infra

(32:37):
murder way with the knitting needles andher hands right by the scissors, and
I was like, oh, she'sgoing to grab the scissors. And then
I do like too where it's like, oh, you stab them with needles.
Oh so is drug related? No, No, knitting knitting, that's
what brings Chevy Chase back into herlife and Brian Denahe and Brian Denahey is

(32:58):
the sidekick. I kept waiting forBrian Denahey to be a banned guy through
this whole movie. I was like, Oh, no, he's so when
is at the bad guy's headquarters,I was like, Oh, here we
go, this is where he's gonnaknow. He's a good guy. I
mean, Brian denna He's always agood guy, even when he's bat.
Isn't he a bad guy in FX? Though? Isn't that? No,

(33:19):
he's a good guy in FX.Okay, he doesn't flip in that,
Okay, playing essentially the same,he's just playing another cop. Yeah,
because he seems like one that wouldflip very easily. I gotcha. Yeah,
okay, all right, FX man, I haven't seen that movie for
fucking Heaver. Oh it's good.It's so good. Brian Brown, my
lord, Oh yeah, Australia Zone. I like Brian Dennahee a lot in

(33:42):
this movie, but I was alsoexpecting it to be like and now,
like he turns the gun on ChevyChase, there is thank you, thank
you. I'm glad that it wasn'tjust me I'm glad we're all in agreement.
No, I was expecting it too. Yeah, but then he gets
kidnapped, I guess kind of andthe third act of the movie, and
I was like, Okay, well, I don't think he's in on it
anymore, but I was expecting it. You know. What's interesting is the

(34:04):
amount of we don't believe you thatkeeps going on in this movie, because
I think it they go one timetoo many. But I think that's also
where we kind of have. Thesecond act of this movie does drag a
little bit. I think any ofthe dragging in this movie is definitely in
the second act, not in thefirst or third. I think we're all
confusing his role here with his rolein Tommy Boy, where he fakes his
own death then comes back at theend to kill David Spade. Maybe I'm

(34:29):
back. And then a rat crawlsacross the banister. Yeah, she's David
Spade in the eye. Well,and that brings up the mcguffin, like
you mentioned earlier, Mike, andScarface gets it. He gets the cigarette
pack with the film canister in itand then drops it out of his pocket,

(34:51):
and that's kind of the end ofit. Until it gets tossed unceremoniously
into the fire by bird merit ofthis character, and I thought for sure
that snake was going to take itout of the fire, but then you
see it burning up, and Iwas like, oh, that's it.
That's the end of this mcguffin.Okay, and then the snake laughs.
That's the one person It was kindof confused me as a kid, like,

(35:15):
okay, mostly realistic film, andit takes a little couple turns into
absurdity. And that's one of them. But the other one is the scene
with Billy Bardy, which you're startingto bring up. It was it just
all of a sudden, it's justa Looty Tunes cartoon. Yeah, yeah,

(35:35):
I ad min it. That's whatI noticed yesterday for the first time,
Like, okay, this has beenplaying it straight for the most part,
but this just got goofy as heckwith him getting tossed out the window
and landing in that garbage cannon,rolling down that very steep hill in San
Francisco, and then getting bazook Itout of it and down the storm train.

(35:58):
I was watching the movie with mywife and she goes, that guy
would be dead like ten times overwith all of his bones broken. Yeah,
and then he gets bazookd I thinkis the best possible term. I
mean, it's fine. It makesno sense, but it's fine. It's
pretty fun. I love the fullsized stunt man that goes down the Uh

(36:20):
yeah, yes, oh that guywas a little I didn't even notice that
for a little Billy Barty to bigBilly BARTI real quick. So of course
she mistakes him for the dwarf thateveryone's been telling her to watch out for.
He's great in this though. Herboss at the library is like,
oh, there was a little manlooking for you and got your information from

(36:40):
your pastor oh, you know,a little person. I was like,
oh, that's nice, that's reallygood. But no, it is Rupert
Stiltskin is little man stupid code namedwarf. Yes, yes, yeah.
The police work can be brought intoquestion in this movie as well, where

(37:01):
yeah, you know, Chris,it's understandable that they poo poo her story
at first because she's using all thedwarf and the albino and it sounds ridiculous,
And when she thinks that she's killedScarface and hasn't, and then the
albino does from outside her window.I'm not sure how he got up there,
but that's the stuff that scared me. I mentioned that this movie spooked

(37:22):
me as a kid, and itall has to do with the albino and
him popping up in places in thelibrary, at her window, and she's
got at least a two story apartment. She's up on the second or third
floor, and then the body's gone. So you get it. But I
hate that in movies too, Chris, But it sort of makes sense because
it sounds like a ridiculous story inthis That's where I get confused as to

(37:45):
what why did the albino kill Scarface? I know they kind of explain it.
They take the body, they don'transack the house to find the film,
and yeah, that gets a littlerough, Yeah, definitely. The
other thing is once they do figureeverything out, Scotty's body washes up on

(38:06):
shore. Tony makes that connection becauseshe said that she had picked up a
hitchhiker name Scotty. He ends upbeing an undercover cop. He makes that
connection finally, and then they sortof figure out the dwarf connection with stilt
skin and all these other things,and they've got a picture of like the
three of those guys together. Thealbino is stilt skin, and I believe

(38:30):
either the Turk or Scarface. Ithink scarface. Yeah. Later on in
the film, at the conclusion,Tony says to Gloria, you know you
better come because you're the only onethat's seen Whitey. And it's like you
had a fucking picture of him,right, what are you talking about?
It could be in disguise. Well, what difference does that make? You'd

(38:52):
recognize them just as well as Iwould in a disguise. It's hard not
to spot the albino man walking binoman with the white eyes, yeah,
which is not to me. No, No, I know it's creepy.
If you're in albino. I believeyour eyes are not white, that is
not how that works. But morepink, right red? Yeah, yeah,

(39:15):
I was really hoping for more JohnHancock in this movie. He plays
Chevy Chase's boss, and there's thiswhole thing of like, oh, I
thought you were suspended or something likethat. I was like, oh,
well, why tell me more aboutthis, because I mean John Hancock was
one of the classic movie dad typeof guys. He's like right there with

(39:35):
Reginald vel Johnson type of person.I'm just like, yeah, give me
more of this guy. I loveevery time he shows up on screen.
It seems like some of his stuffwas scrapped or something, because they bring
up the suspension and he's got Atone point when she comes in, there's
a sign over Chevy Chase's head thatsays, don't talk to this man.
He's on suspension. Yeah, theybriefly mentioned he arrested the mayor, pulled

(40:00):
over the mayor or something like that. I swear he was wearing eye makeup,
and I'm like, what, isn'tthat just a Chevvy Like, okay,
that's just a Chevy Chase thing,right, Like yeah, yeah,
you were mentioning it Begley the thingabout like, oh him doing the slap
sticky stuff. That's more of thestuff I assumed was just like the chasisms

(40:21):
where he's like I always think ofFletch where the woman goes, you know,
waynas Ds and he goes pumpin Tacoand then sees Tierra del Fuego,
which I mean, again, you'rejust literally just saying bullshit. But that's
what I assume was more of theChevy Chase thing, and he does it
a couple of times in this movie, and it makes no sense. One
of those lines being I swear hewas wearing eye makeup. That's about as

(40:42):
good as the that's what I heardline from Ghostbusters. Yes, this man
is on suspension, do not speakto him politely, is what the site
said. There's a couple scenes inthere that seem like they're either truncated or
slightly unnecessary. When she goes backto visit Billy Bardi in the hospital,
I don't understand the point of anyof that. To show that he's not

(41:05):
dead, Yeah, but like,do we need to see a scene of
that, Like I just say he'snot dead, Yeah, I mean,
he's still great in it. Howare you feeling so so? And then
when she walks out Dinna, he'sthere, Forge is there, and there's
an eighty yard line where he's like, let's go meet Tony, And it's
like, what was that the pointto transition there to that? I couldn't

(41:29):
have done it a different way.Noticed a couple dr lines where I was
just like, oh, wow,you weren't on set that day. I
think my favorite gag in the entiremovie has nothing to do with any of
our main characters, and it involvestwo elderly women playing Oh my god,
that was so good. It's thebest joke in the entire movie. It's

(41:50):
given no fanfare, which I thinkis what makes it such a good joke
is it's just played completely straight andwe are just watching two elderly women use
the word motherfucker in gravel, startingwith fuck and then fucker and then motherfucker.
I believe there's a uh. Iwas expecting to s yes, So,

(42:12):
yeah, she's spelling it gangster style. Yeah, exactly, and that
would be with an a at theend, I believe. Yeah, yes,
that's true. Yeah, no,that's great. And I'm thinking,
oh, how close are they goingto get to showing that? And they
cut it just at the right time. The f you is there and she
adds the c K and then yeah, it's great. Yeah that Those two

(42:34):
old gals are wonderful. But youknow, she's resourceful, and that's where
we get Chekhov's brass knuckles, screamerand mace when she utilizes all of those
to take out the turk and getout of that hide out of theirs,
I know he would have been tooyoung to play this role. But my
god, I would have loved tohave seen John Polito as the Turk reminded

(42:58):
me of especially when he's got thefake hair on it. Just yeah,
yeah, speaking to the Man whoknew what's the name of that Cohen Brothers
movie, Oh right, the Manwho Wasn't there? Yeah, yeah,
as opposed to the Bill Murray filmThe Man who Knew Too Little? Right,
And apparently they called this The Girlwho Knew Too Little and like Sweden

(43:22):
or something, Ah, makes sense. I didn't mind The Man who Knew
Too Little. Though. There's anothermovie called It's just called The Wrong Guy
with Dave Foley where it's a realparody of a ton of Hitchcock stuff,
to the point where I think there'sa miniature Mount Rushmore or something. I
remember really liking that movie though alot. They did a much better job

(43:44):
than mister mel Brooks when it cameto parroting Hitchcock stuff. Yeah. I
just wasn't a fan of high Anxiety. I mean, maybe it was the
bird scene. I don't know whatit was makes me gag. Even though
I know it's fake. It's alittle much unsuccessful. I've never seen it.

(44:06):
It's all right, But I've notseen a lot of Hitchcock either,
so you imagine you probably get moreout of it the more Hitchcock you've seen.
Ron Carrey's in High Anxiety, andhe plays a pretty good role.
He's great chauffeur or something. Idon't got it. I'm glad that's like
what I remember from that movie Thatand the bird Poop. And then I

(44:29):
guess Chloris Leachman is that nurse right, right? She was better served by
young Frankenstein though, yeah, ohyeah, I mean obviously the ultimate Hitchcock
parody is any Brian de Palma film, but him burned his ass, right,

(44:50):
I A. I'm sure he's turningoff the podcast right now, sorry,
mister Palma. These guys, fuckyou guys. You know how big
of a fan of foul play Iam. I just want to listen to
a podcast it's in tears. Thatwould be amazing. That is not within
the realm of possibility, I don'tthink. But we can all dream till

(45:15):
gone off track? Here? Whyare we covering this? Why? Why
are we here? Is? Arewe here because of murder by Death,
which we did so long ago,like a year ago? That's why.
Yeah, Mike mentioned it as oneof those spoofy crazy movies. Yes,
spoofy spy movie, although it's not, but it kind of is. I'd

(45:38):
like to think that it's because ofthe way that we spoke about murder can
Hurt You instead rip young which isa similar take on that as Murder My
Death. From my understanding, theColumbo care with all the detectives, right,
yeah, Youngest and the sopranos aswell. Yeah, so Dudley other

(46:00):
appearances, the massage parlor scene.Yeah, do we have to talk about
Dudley Moore anymore? I mean thebest. I think it would have been
enough if he had just come backat the end, and it would have
been fun when he shows up asthe director of the symphony. Like,
I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Of course,
that's who he is. Did Ineed to see him in the massage parlor?

(46:22):
Do in another like? No,I did not. I kind of
liked it under the rule of threes, he really needed to be right,
right, No, I get itfrom a storytelling perspective, but like,
his character is just kind of onenote. Unfortunately, maybe if she had
just seen him in there, likeand they did a double take at each
other, but we've got to involvehim in the plot and try to make

(46:45):
him her way out of there,which he of course fells up. And
I love though that he ends upat the police station and inadvertently grabs Stella's
ass so she can get in thatlast little I love that character. I
love her. I was kind ofhoping that she and him would end up
together. I sort of imagine that'swhat happens after this. She's still outside

(47:06):
the station and he gets let outand takes her back to his beaver trap.
There you go. Yeah, whathe calls it, this beaver trap.
I'm just like, oh my god. They just said that out loud,
and he said that to her.I'm like, you're you're blowing it,
buddy, You're blowing it. He'slucky that she's so oblivious and has
other things on her mind that shedoesn't notice anything that's going on. Like

(47:29):
he mentioned Chris, he ends upbeing the conductor of this version of the
Mikado that's opening, and the Popeis there. And this is another example
of they know that there's an assassinationplot, but they don't put it together
that it's the Pope who's making avisit that day. Yeah, it's all
over television every single time they turn. Yes, exactly. Somehow Frank Drebin

(47:54):
looks more competent than the cops inthis and that's a problem. I was
like, what is this Rosemary's Baby? With the times that we mentioned the
Pope come into town? Geez,the fact that they don't realize that it's
like, we don't know who they'regoing to be assassinating. Really, really,

(48:14):
that's what the film. That's themissing piece that the film canister holds.
I guess the blueprints for the plan. It's a picture of the pope,
the leader of an international religion,and you don't think that that might
be the person that they're trying toassassinate. Really Okay, fine, yeah,
the anti Church League, and yetyou can't ye make this happen.

(48:36):
Frank, Yeah, I like thatStilla gets employed utilizing the library to figure
out the what is the name oftheir group, the taxation Church something or
other? Tax the Church League,Yeah, tax the Church League. But
again I'm going to say, I'mall for biggest the real estate agency in
the entire world. Yeah, wejust had not just religious peop but also

(49:00):
scientologists turn this podcast. Yeah,yeah, I think I think that Goldie
Han because there's the one moment whereshe's wearing her glasses. I think she's
supposed to be one of these likewas it ten Things I Hate about you
kind of things where it's like,oh, she's actually really pretty if you
took off glasses, okay, AndI'm like, wait what but she only

(49:23):
wears one time? Yeah, uhyeah. I think she could be wearing
glasses, a scarf and a ohyeah face match and Marks knows, Yeah,
you'd still listen realize she's gorgeous.She's freaking adorable, adorable. Yeah,
she could be wearing a gorilla maskand she would say, Okay,

(49:46):
yeah it's you, Goldie, Iknow what's you underneath. They're all darn
you got me, like, yeah, we know. I love the chasing
that's broken up into multiple parts,with Chevy stealing different cars from different people,
and they finally figured this all outat the Archbishop's mansion, and of
course Bridges Meredith has to tag alongso we can have a wonderful karate fight

(50:08):
with Gerda or whatever her name is. The Rachel Roberts character, she was
one tough hole mama. We getChevy I guess in his car or maybe
the Archbishop's car. It's not alimo, but driving through those hilly streets
of San Francisco and wipes out onceit steals the farmers. This goes on

(50:30):
for a while. This is thepart that I always loved as a kid.
With that and the Japanese tourists andthe hippie who just keeps going far
out right, I was just like, oh boy, that's pretty great.
I love it. The Japanese coupleis the best part. Yeah, go

(50:50):
jack bang bang bang. That wasgreat. Well, it ties into the
Mercado as well, so I wasglad for that, right and I had
it in my head that they outa camera during that scene, but I
think I was just ready for thatand it doesn't happen, so at least
we don't get that in this movie. Speaking of Rosemary's Baby, Oh yeah,

(51:14):
they finally make it to the operaHouse and track down Whitey Jackson,
who's hidden in the What do theysay he's hidden? Oh yeah, because
he's only in one of two places. Yeah, Organ Boys area or something,
Yeah, the Oregon Yeah, rightwhere the I guess where the pipes
are. I don't know. Thatis a pretty great little chase scene with

(51:36):
Whitey Jackson at the end through thewhat do you call all that stuff up
in the theater the rafters, Yeah, the rafter and then him and that
cop falling on the HMS Benapore,the way that there's that long pause after
it comes down and everybody's just waiting, and then the Pope finally is the
one that breaks the silence and startsto applaud. Surprise reco Plozzo didn't show

(52:00):
up. Naked Gun, Yeah,I must kill the Pope. I think
the third act works. I think, Mike, you're probably right. The
chase maybe does go on a little. It's maybe it's a little much.
Yeah, I mean I don't thinkthey need to do it three gags,
probably, I mean again law ofthrees, but probably two was enough.

(52:22):
I was kind of surprised at thismovie is an hour and fifty minute.
It is a little just a tadlong, which is fine. I enjoyed the
end of this movie. Again.I feel like anytime we have characters fighting
in a theater, it kind ofalways makes me think of all the other
movies that do the same thing.Because you could even mention Naked Gun three,
where they're fighting at the Academy Awards, so again it kind of reminded

(52:45):
me of that too. I thinkthis does it better for the most part.
Yeah. Actually, as you're sayingthat, I'm thinking of the Adventures
of Sherlock Holmes's Smarter Brother, becauseI think that all takes place on the
age at the end, and they'resinging opera to each other and stuff.
So it was like, is thatthis No, No, it's not this

(53:05):
one. They all kind of runtogether after a while when you think about
it, like they do go intothe rafters or stuff like that, chasing
the rafters, hearing shots people fallingout of the rafters. Surprise, there
wasn't somebody falling headfirst into a tubaBilly Bardi perhaps, Yes, he's there.

(53:27):
They're in a wheelchair at the operaand he mules down the aisle and
shoots out and then lands in thetuba. Yeah. Yeah. And then
there's a shot of the person playingthe tubea going with their face really extended.
It can't blown the air out.Yeah yeah, and you just hear
the little squeaks around the mouthpiece orsomething. Yep, it rights itself.

(53:50):
So I guess I was also thinkingof more of a comedy, but dirty
work. The entire climax of dirtywork takes place in a in a movie
or in a theater as well,so I haven't seen that one. Yeah,
the movie's weird oscillation between tones isthe most apparent at the end of
the movie, where you have likepeople actually being shot and killed in a
movie where Billy Barty flew out ofa trash can and survived. And I

(54:13):
think that's probably where a lot ofthe weird second act tone shifts kind of
come into play, because I thinkyou could have gotten away with not having
Billy Barty in the movie at alland just having it be weird that Mark
Lawrence's character's name is the Dwarf andnot actually having a short actor in the
movie. I don't know. That'sprobably where the only bloat of the movie

(54:35):
is for me. But the thirdact I think keeps in line with the
movies serious enough that people can die, but funny enough where it's not the
end of the world tone, becausethere is that weird balance of like in
a movie like space Balls, likenone of the characters really die and it's
a parody. The stakes and parodiessometimes seem like they're more dictated. I

(54:57):
mean, like when we talk aboutNaked Gun, like characters die in Naked
Gun, but it's really only thebad guys that's it. Like the villain
characters. You never really think likeany of the heroes can die. And
like that's this movie's tone. Likethere's times where it's like, oh,
maybe that could happen. It doesn'tverge all the way into parody territory,
I think, which is the successof this movie. Ultimately, just think
that we don't get too many moviesthis fun anymore, and I just really

(55:22):
like how fun this one was.And yeah, to our earlier point,
I don't know why this didn't startoff a whole thing. Seems like old
times really, I mean, it'snot a sequel, it's its own thing.
It's based on a Neil Simon play. I can't remember who ended up
directing that one, but it works, and it works well as not necessarily

(55:45):
a follow up, but another filmstarring these two. And I don't think
that we needed like a whole thinMan type universe. These two didn't need
to become Nick and Nora, butthat bit fun though. I think having
these two solving crimes going forward,what did kind of a neat thing.
Yeah, I wonder if there wereany other plans to pair them up and

(56:06):
other stuff I haven't seen seems likeold times in decades, but I remember
the chemistry there being roughly the sameas it is in this and you know,
they could live on that house boatand she can get embroiled in another
murder mystery that takes place in herlibrary and he has to help again or

(56:28):
whatever. I wonder if any ofit was Chevy Chase didn't want to play
second fiddle. We've kind of mentionedit before, We've talked about it.
That's his whole thing, right,is not he has. He loved playing
second fiddle. That's why he leftSaturday Nightlight. Right, That's why Bill
Murray called him, You're just amedium talent and exactly. Yeah, Well

(56:51):
that's and that's what I wonder,Like, I wonder if it's just at
some point this guy doesn't want tobe the person who's the romantic lead.
He wants to be the person whohad a romantic lead opposite him. I
would understand that, given what weknow, it is a disappointment because their
chemistry here is really good and it'sbelievable too. You could believe that she

(57:12):
would find this person appealing and viceversa. I say that I don't like
them hooking up necessarily, but itis understandable in the context of the film.
Well, yeah, that's where itneeds to go for the next film.
Right. You could almost rework seemslike Old Times into a sequel from
this because by that time they're splitapart and she's married to Charles Groden,

(57:32):
She's got her own life. Itfeels very very Irene Done and Carrie Grant
type of thing, where it's like, Okay, now she's got her own
life, and is he really thebest person for her? Because Charles Groden,
you know, kind of a careeraholic in that movie, and it
is Charles Groden, who I fuckinglove and he adds such a great spice

(57:53):
to that mix. It's just terrific. Oh, I love him so much.
And he could have even been inthe next movie, you know,
the third movie of these folks goingat it and solving the crimes. He
could have been the reluctant helper andlike, I can't believe he stole my
wife away from me. You know, it is a very very rich film.

(58:13):
That's the one just so you rememberwhere she's a lawyer and she keeps
defending all these people who are reallyokay, they just need a little straightening
out, so she just keeps hiringthem to do things for like working at
her house and all this stuff.It's very funny. And then Chevy Chase
gets in trouble with the law inthat one because he's captured on film robbing

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a bank. Because these two bankrobbers, that's their whole scheme is to
grab somebody off the street, makethem go in and rob the bank,
and then they take the money.I just remember that Knolls is in that
film. Yes, yes he is. Yeah, he's one of the people
that she defended. And yes,her chauffeur in that one. And he's
funny in it, right, He'svery funny in it. Yeah, okay,

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especially towards the end. There's thiswhole thing at a meal where they're
serving the governor because he wants tomake Charles Groden into the district attorney.
And it works really well. Ineed to watch that again. It's pretty
fun. It's pretty fun. Iremember enjoying it, but I think I
was a little young. Yeah,I think I mentioned to you I saw

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it in the theater. I thinkour cousins took us or something. We
were down south visiting them and alittle over my head, but I remember,
oh yeah, enjoying bits and piecesof it. And it was into
Chevy Chase. So it definitely wasway too old for me when I saw
it back in the early eighties,so I totally can get that. I
had to say, the house thatthey live in, I'm going to have

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to go back and look. Butthe house that they live in in seems
like old times. So seems likethe archbishop or whoever that guy is,
and you were talking about that pacadyin the house. It so looks like
that to me. And that wasthe other She goes to the New Art
to see this film, and I'mlike, they're one in San Francisco.

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They filmed it at the one inLa But I've always just associated the New
Art with the Eraserhead having it's openingthere back in around this time actually,
And so I don't know if thereactually was one in San Francisco, if
they just were like, you know, fuck it, it's on the Marquee,
So we'll just say there was not. Okay, I didn't think so,

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but and I bet Chuck McCann didn'twork there either. Yeah, No,
Chuck mccannon was better known as beinga projectionist. Anyway, it's a
deep cut. That's a deep Theonly thing i've seen Chuck mccannon is in
The Aristocrats where he tells one ofthe aristocrats jokes. I have not seen
him in anything else. Well,he was in a movie called The Projectionist.

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I can't remember, early eighties.I think there was a very early
role for Brodney Dangerfield and Chrissy's goingto show up least once, if not
twice, in Colombo where he playsa projectionist. Yeah. Actually, I
think it's going to be very soonfor us to see him show up in
that. Oh he's the theater managerin this. I get you right,

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I'm missing the joke here. Okay. Sorry, That's why they call that
one away, Homer, because youonly get it all the way home.
But I am home, Glenn,Thank you for recognizing that reference. Alrighty
guys, anything else? Give usfoul play too? Chevy Chase and goldiehun

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are still alive, do it you? Cow you give us foul play too?
Wouldn't that be interesting? Fowler play? How many years later? Are
we now, Oh Jesus, well, in five years it'll be fifty,
so forty five. Wow. Wowit still holds up. Yeah, it
holds up. It's not problematic atleast it's got that going for it.

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Thank you for inviting me on yourshow to talk about this movie. Not
that I wouldn't have ever watched it, but it was definitely something I'd seen
the box art enough time and notrealizing chevy Chase has a gun in his
pocket and he's not just happy tosee me. I didn't realize that there's
a gun in the poster that likeis being shot. Oh, like yeah,
I didn't realize until I was like, oh okay, because again I
knew nothing going nothing about this movie. Yeah. I never really picked up

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on that either, but that hehas a gun and that's going on.
Yeah, yeah, that's what Imean. Like, if I was being
hugged by goldiehan my gun might gooff as well. Probably, Yeah,
it happens to every man. GoldiehanIs is actually really good in that Netflix
Christmas movie where she's opposite Kurt Russell. It's actually really cute. I think

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that's all she does these days isjust play missus claws next to her partner
and can't blame her for that.No, and no, they're adorable together,
and Kurt Russell is kind of likea I don't know, Kurt Russell
is one of those just like perfectlywholesome actors in a way that like I
feel like he gets overlooked for TomHanks, but I think Kurt Russell is

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as wholesome, if not more so, because of how his career started and
he's kind of been not like wholesomethroughout, but like in a way,
like I always think of Kurt Russellas like put that guy on a pedestal
in a lot of ways, likeas like an example of a really not
just a quality American actor, butI think a quality representative of like the
acting community as well. So Ithink we're all a huge fan of Kurt

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Russell for different reasons and from differentmovies and things. But him and Goldiehan
together in that movie is just veryadorable. Yeah, they're cute. They're
very cute. It's like seeing someone'sparents or grandparents like, oh, look
at them, you know, andthen seeing her in this it's like,
oh, you used to be likeyounger and adorable. Now you're just older
and adorable. Nothing has really changed, right, Well, when you're not

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over here visiting me, Chris,what's going on over at the culture cast
talking about movies once a week rightnow, since it's October, horror movies
because you know, I'm just likeeverybody else. I followed there. Oh
yeah, bos the trends. Actuallythis might not come out until November,
so okay, what's going on inNovember? Over the movie is about food?

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All Thanksgiving? Yes, yes,well I guess so. Yeah.
Coincidentally, I guess the one monthof the year where it's like the food
holiday. So we're talking about foodmovies. So bet Bett's Feast, the
Chef, the thief, the cookand her lover. Oh the chef,
the wife, the wife. Ohyeah, a thief. There we go

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with I need to watch that againwith r I p rest in Peace.
Michael Gambon. Yeah, but theIncredible Island were in that movie. Oh
my god, never seen it.So I'm on a cannibal movie kick,
so I might as well throw thatone in. You're in for a treat.
Did I just spoil it? No? I know it's about eating people
or eating something, but yeah,so that's what's going on. At the

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culture Cast. But just go overto weirding Way Media, where you found
this show and so many other fantasticshows to be checking out and spending your
time listening to and Mike what's goingon in November over on the projection booth.
In November, I'm probably going tobe releasing a lot of sh October
titles just because I'm so fricking behindus Halloween year. Oh yeah, you're

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doing September right now? Little yeah? God, yeah, I just had
somebody email me last night and go, where's the Shoctober titles? Did I'm
not really confused? Oh yeah,yeah, So I went ahead and I
fired. Yeah, I hired somebodyto do some editing for me. So

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I'm hoping to release two episodes aweek for all of November and catch up.
So fingers crossed. Can you mentionany titles or are we being secretive?
Oh no, no, no,it's it's all out there for October.
In November, I'll be doing thingslike the Keep, Island of Lost
Souls, some of the other ones, A Virgin among the Living Dead.

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Oh, and there's one other thatI'm not remembering. It's not Sonatane.
Oh, it's made by ites doc. So, yeah, another film I
haven't seen in decades. Yeah,it had been a long time for me
as well. Last time I sawit was at the movie theater itself.
Yeah, I think that's the lasttime I saw the Cook at all.
Well maybe not, maybe I renderedat once. Yeah, that's the only
place I saw that for a longtime before we did an episode. Alrighty,

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well, thank you both for joiningme on this episode, and thanks
to everyone for listening. Head overto weirdinwaymedia dot com for all of these
shows, plus the other shows thatwe all host. And don't forget.
Don't forget what what? Well,what happens every time? Bro? I'll

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forget what fuck? Or milk stickof butter? What honey? What did
we need at the store? Right? Don't forget anything can happen when you
wake up heavy. She was onetough o mama.