WUH: Interview (2019)

I'd almost forgotten about the only interview I've done, but since I'm cleaning up old episodes this popped back into my head. This was for Pick Up a Podcast which seems to have stopped producing new episodes back in 2020. This dates back to early 2019 so it might be kind of fun to see how things have or have not changed since then.

Episode Transcript

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We made this. Hello everyone,and welcome to pick Up a podcast and
our first episode of twenty nineteen.And today we are going to be talking
to Mark Begley, who is partof the wake Up Heavy podcast. Hi

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Mark, how are you? Hi? Kurt, Nice to be here,
good, Nice to speak to you. Finally, I know that you were
really one of the first people whojumped on when I put the call out
for for podcasters to come on.And I know there's been a bit of
a gap before we get to speakto each other, but I do appreciate
you getting in touch just before Christmasthere, and I'm sure that we're going

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to have a great little discussion onyour podcast, wake Up Heavy. That
is an interesting name and I'm justlooking. I'm just wondering one what the
podcast is about. I know whatit's about, but what is the podcast
about? And where did the namewake Up Heavy come from? The name
from a journal entry of mine.I got into the habit of doing that

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when I was in London for asemester of school. Actually, I think
I kept three journals, one formyself, we had to keep one for
the program, and then think Ihad another little kind of date book and
I kept doing it off and onfor years after, and it was in

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reference to imbibing in certain beverages andhow things had changed with my reaction to
that the next morning. I usedto get the spins when I was younger,
and then kind of would just passout and then have a bad hangover,
and then it just turned into aphysical sensation of waking up and kind

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of feeling like gravity was pulling youdown a little bit extra harder. So
it just wrote down wake Up Heavy, and liked it and used it for
literary magazine I did in the earlytwo thousands. When it came to do
this, I just stuck with it. It has no reference or bearing to

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movies in general or horror movies specifically. It's my roller skate skinny line that
I always wondered what that band's namewas from, and then I found out
that it was a sentence in Catcherin the Rye, and I just thought
it was the greatest thing ever.Fantastic. Okay, So you mentioned about

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those literally things there, I mean, what those magazine's about with a bolt
films all. No, it wasstrictly poetry and short stories. I was
a huge fan of Charles Bukowski,and I think the first magazine I did
another kind of interesting name, iscalled Smell Feast, and I did that

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with a buddy, and then Ikind of took it over and got a
lot of the small press poets thathad published alongside Bukowski, and I was
kind of ring myself up to writehim a letter to submit, because he
just submitted to every magazine that wouldtake his poems. Before I could do

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that, he passed away, andat the time I was writing as well
and submitting to these same kinds ofmagazines, and then that all kind of
died off. That was I thinkin the late our mid nineties, and
then I stopped doing it and thengot the kind of itch to go back
to that and picked up the WakeUp Heavy Moniker for the second literary magazine,

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and at that point I started contactingthe Black Sparrow Press poets that had
kind of been published alongside the Kowskiand so it was a lot of that
early two thousands Black Sparrow Press group. And the main guy that I ended
up publishing a bunch of was FieldingDawson, and he passed away and that

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kind of killed the magazine. Andthen after that I did it. I
dabbled in some letterpress printing. Idid some cards and prints back in I
guess the mid two thousands for afew years and had that actually as my
job for a while and didn't usethe Wake Up Heavy name for that.
When it came time to do this, I just kind of naturally gravitated back

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to that name. Yeah, Sothe podcast you started that late August last,
Jeb. I think it was themain feature of it from what I've
seen. I know you've mentioned withinthe podcast that you may venture out a
little bit from it is horror.I mean, what do you perceive horror
to be owned? Why specifically horror? Well, I guess it was because

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that was what I was watching somuch of when I was a kid.
That's what we rented all the time. It was almost exclusively horror movies.
The thing I think we must haverented almost weekly or bi weekly back in
the early to mid eighties, andso that and Halloween and and all the

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ones that I've done, like Phantasmand stuff like Rosemary's Baby and The Shining,
It just seemed to be what werented. Or if you went to
a sleepover or somebody had a birthdayparty or a Halloween party. It was
horror movies. You know. AsI grew up, I kind of watched
them less and less and started gettinginto cult films and art films and foreign

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films. And I think in probablyaround twenty thirteen, I started meeting a
friend of mine who had been inNew York in LA for a few years
and had come back to Fresno,and we started to make a point of
meeting every week. And then itturned into watching movies. And it was

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just any movie at that point,and then when we would watch horror movies,
it just seemed like it was moreenjoyable. So that kind of became
the trend. And then I juststuck with it, and I thought,
you know, I all these years, I've missed a lot of these movies,
and they're I guess, the mostenjoyable to watch for me. They
encompass, you know, they takeall of the aspects of film, special

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effects, the music's very important tomovies, to the horror movies. And
is that the duct from the thing? I hope not. Yeah. And
then I kept seeing I guess becauseof Facebook following nerdics or other groups like
that where they would talk about newhorror, and I thought, oh,

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and a lot of them would endup on Netflix. I think Starry Eyes
was the first one that really mademe think, Okay, so we've gotten
past the nineties, which is kindof a dead zone to me, at
least for horror, and for kidsthat grew up in the nineties. I'm
sure it's they look at it thesame way I do for eighties or seventies

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films. Anytime I watch one,I think. I just watched I Know
What You Did last summer again forthe first time in a long time,
and it really just didn't do anythingfor me. But lately there's kind of
been a really big resurgence in goodquality horror and story Eyes was kind of
the first one that really made methink, Okay, there's gotta be more

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good stuff out there. Even moreso this last year, it seems like
it's really taken off, and withthings like Mandy and Suspiria the remake,
and then this year we've got thenew Jordan Peel movie coming up and things
like that. So that's os,isn't it. I think the Job the
one. Yeah, yeah, Soobviously Hotter is a really keen part of

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your history. And what you hadgrowing up there. So, yeah,
you mentioned in one of your podcastsabout the element of the likes of one
of my favorite directors, David Lynch, and you've recently done a podcast with
Mike Quhites as well with you RaiseAhead. So as you mentioned that the
most surreal aspects of horror, Imean, is there a particular type?

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I mean, you're saying that surrealis probably your most favorite and obviously the
nineties stuff like the way you know, I know what you did last summer
is not really something that really appealsto you. But from my points of
view, I'm not a massive horrorfan, but I didn't perceive the thing
as a horror movie, strangely enough, because I love my sci fi and
I came at that from a scifi point of view. With you know,

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there's just some really gruesome and andout there moments in there. So,
taking the genre as a whole,is there any particular aspects that you
really enjoy all stuff that it's kindof like, it's not for me.
Within the genre itself, well,the stuff that I tend to gravitate toward
does seem to be the things thatare kind of slightly off and I think

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the first two that I talked about, Phantasm and Tourist Trap, have that
almost unintentionally surreal feel to them wherethings just aren't quite right. And as
a kid, I didn't really understandwhy they weren't white right, And a
lot of it just had to dowith like with Phantasm, and it had
to do with that they took bigchunks of it out and so you're missing

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connections that probably would have been there, and it just feels like a dream,
you know, And it was intentionallysupposed to feel like a dream,
But there's both intentional and unintentional thingsthat happened in that movie that make it
just a little bit off. Andso a lot of the genre that I
keep going back to, the ofthe psychological horror, with the hysterical women

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and different things like that that we'rebig in the seventies, it's just more
of an unsettling feeling that I tendto enjoy. I mean, I like
the gore and stuff, but I'mnot a gore. Hound doesn't have to
be. Tourist Trap has like zeroblood in it, but it's creepy and
weird and just off kilters, Sothat tends to be the stuff that I

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gravitate to, and probably why slasherfilms aren't that high up on my list,
because those are most straightforward supernatural aspects, but they're not weird. Yeah,
although I'm sure people could argue somesequels. I guess Nightmare on Elm
Street two is kind of weird.I mean, the first Nightmare on Elm

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Street is weird, and I likethat one the most because it's dream like.
It's not so much about Freddie throwingout one liners. It's just about
the kind of blurring between waking andsleeping and all that that makes that that
one's successful to me. As Isay, I'm not a huge hat of
fun, but I do like psychologicalthrillersm I do like things with elements of

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the unknown or the surreal, likelike I say that David Lynch stuff is
really good because it makes you think, and I like things that are explicitly
explained to you. So some ofthe Slasher ones for me really out really
for me. I'm not really interestedin them, but I would always go
back to them. And if somebodysaid, no, you need to listen,
watch this one because it's got anelement that you like, which you

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like now I'm trying to think ofthe film that I've been so to watch
recently, which was the It wasthe Donald Suveland film with the Girl in
the Red Coat? Was it?Yeah, don't look now, Don't look
now? Yeah, And I reallyreally enjoyed that film. That's down my
street. That's the sort of thingthat I really am reading into. Yeah,
that showed up on shutter over here, and I had it had been

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on there, I think a coupleof years ago, and I for some
stupid reason, didn't watch it andwatched it a couple of weeks ago,
and I was like, oh,yeah, I remember really really liking this
movie and still really really enjoy it. And it's barely horror. I mean,
I think the last five minutes areabout the only thing that could be
considered horror. Yeah, But thedynamics between the two of them and the

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strange editing and the flash forwards andall you're unsettled and not totally sure what's
going on, And that's the kindof stuff that's really intriguing to me.
That's a great movie. Yes,I've absolutely loved And you mentioned the flash
forwards. I mean, I'm I'ma stickler for those type of things.
I love repeating films. I lovelikes of Groundhog Days and various sort of

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things like that. And I loveanything that kind of throws you off edge
on that way, and I wouldprefer that over something that's that's gory.
As you say, it's certainly somethingthat's great that You've got the aspects of
surrealism, sci fi, you've gotpsychological thrillers in there. Everything you can
throw at the horrorge enm where youcould you could potentially find something from it.

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Now you decided to get into thepodcasting world. What was the major
factor in in that? And howdid you go about your first recording?
How? How did you research whatwas going on in the past. Did
you look at what other people weredoing? How did the podcasting world enter
your your life? I have Facebook, I think again to blame for starting

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this whole thing. It was tenmovies over ten days, and you were
just supposed to post the poster ora picture and not talk about it,
right, that's kind of the rule. And I wasn't really tagged by anyone.
I just saw everybody doing it andI did it. But I could
not write something about the movies.I thought, well, maybe I start

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a blog or something because I reallylike talking about movies. But I don't
have anyone to talk to about movies, and I don't see my friend as
often as I would like, andwell, what could I do? And
I kind of jokingly at one pointsaid to my wife, let's go find
a decent digital camera. I'll doa movie review show. You can do

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a workout show, and our daughtercan do a little toy video review and
who knows, maybe we'll make alittle bit of extra cash or something.
And quickly realized I don't want todo a video review show and just bothering
with the clips even and I mean, it just seemed like it entailed a
little bit more knowledge than I had. And also just hearing about people with

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getting their stuff pulled from YouTube forcopyright in front general, I didn't want
to get involved in any of that. And I thought, well, you
know, we listened to podcasts inthe car. I don't didn't listen to
very many on my own. Iwould try a few, kind of maybe
not care for the dynamic of thatparticular show, and other than the ones

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that we would listen to in thecar as a family, like Lower and
Myths and Monsters, I think isthe other one. And I didn't really
listen to that many, and Ithought, well, if I'm going to
do this, I need to listento some. But I don't want to
listen to the point where I amregurgitating the same types of thing or aping

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anybody's style, or you know.I didn't want to be too heavily influenced
by anything in particular. And Ithink I did a search for ten best
movie podcasts, and not even horror, just movies in general, and one
that came up was the Faculty ofHorror, and I read the description and

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I thought, oh, this mightbe a good place to start because it's
totally different than what I have inmind to do for myself. And it
was done by two women, whichI thought, well that's good too,
to get another totally different viewpoint frommy own. And it's academic, so

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that was a good place to start. And I listened to a bunch of
theirs and realized, oh, they'rerunning clips, so I can do that,
you know, just an audio clipis fine, And that kind of
started the whole process. And thenI went to YouTube and watched garage band
tutorials and things like that. Onhow to get started at least, and
it didn't seem to be that difficult. And then I realized, oh,

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yes, the computer in our sparebedroom is a Mac and it has Garage
Band on it. So I justwent and started fiddling around and did some
really early versions of what I endedup doing as full episodes I did.
I think I started with the eraserhead and just kind of sat there and
talked into the computer for an hourand a half. That was something I

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was going to pick upon as well, because your style and so far we
recently had Mike Whites on Folly Raiserhead. It happens, but has been that
you were podcasts and solo. Wasthat Was that a conscious choice at the
beginning of the outset? I wasit just beauty because you just wanted to
get your head around the way ofa podcast in the way that you wanted

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it to run. It was mainlyby default. I've figured that you needed
a co host, and I thought, who in the world am I going
to get to co host this?And getting the hold of friends and nailing
down a time when you're both freewas going to be virtually impossible, and
I thought, well, I'll juststart and do the first couple on my

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own and see how that goes.I don't know of many movie podcasts that
do. I can't even think ofone that's just a solo act that isn't
kind of like what you do wherethey have a guest every week or something
where it's just one guy or girltalking about a movie. I don't know.

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That may just be because I don'treally still don't have a very wide
list that I listened to, butI haven't come across one yet. There
are, I know, you know, like I mentioned lower, and that's
just that guy talking the whole time. It's more of telling a story.
But I figured, well, youknow what, I'll just give it a

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shot and see what happens. AndI've asked a few people and it just
hasn't lined up yet. And Iprobably wouldn't have done anything yet if I
was waiting on other people. Soyeah, you've got to start somewhere.
Yeah. Yeah. And also aswell, just while we're on that subject,
so far, you've you've done themon your own, as it was

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one particular one that you've done withmy White again into his Head, and
another one with your daughter, whichfound was amazing and she's a great interviewer,
and if she ever needs to cohost for me or Cup of Me,
I think I'll be in touch.Which I thought was it was really
really good. I thought that shedid really well and that was a nice

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little introduction to the show. Wasit was that something that you would had
asked her to do? Or wasshe did she wants to get involved?
How did that all come about?I think I asked her I had done
and probably like five different intro episodes, and I just kept talking and talking,
and I thought, I need Ineed a structure to this. I

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went ahead and wrote out the questionsthat I ended up having her ask.
Yeah, we just sat there andrecorded her end, and then I went
in and answered the questions afterwards.So she gets a kick out of it.
I don't know if it's something thatshe wants to do all that often
with me, but you know,I've had her do I had her do

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a few extra things for the eraserHead one. And if something pops into
my head where I need a breakor a kind of a segue into a
different topic or something, then I'llask her, will you record something with
me? And you know she's eleven, so I think she's happy to be
asked, but then acts impatient,you know, like it's a bother or

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something after a while. So youmentioned there that you were talking about the
sections and breaks and things. Wassomething that I had noticed listening to to
the podcast, was that you dohave these parts, and you do have
sections that are broken up by ivyusing clips or by saying part one and
part two, and especially with theI know we talked talked about raised ahead

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that rather than go down what manyof the people would consider the usual roots
of having guessed on and talking aboutit and the guess goes and you finish
off. It was actually it wasin the middle of the of the podcast
itself, so there's been a considerableI think it was about thirty five minutes,
yeah, before Mike was introduced.So what was how do you go

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about thinking about split it into potsand the sections that you've put in.
What were the fault processes behind that? With the erased your head in particular,
it was I have to have somekind of structure or all just bladder
on about things, which is probablywhat happens Anyway, I don't know why
I stuck that in the middle tobe honest with you. I knew I

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had recorded something, and then Ithink I trashed it, and I thought,
well, let's see what we talkabout and then I can kind of
gear the solo stuff around that andnot try to duplicate too much. And
I ended up taking quite a bitout of the conversation on my end because

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I knew that I would talk aboutit more in depth on my own.
Some things that we didn't get tothat there were key points for me.
It just didn't come up in theconversation with Mike. I felt like I
was sort of aping projection booth withthat. It seems like their interviews come
sort of late in the yeah,in the episodes, So maybe that was

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just what I was thinking. I'llcopy him on that on it. He
certainly a good one to copy putit that way. Yeah, And with
regards to clips, I know it'sit's it's something that some people do and
some people don't. Was a consciouseffort on your parts who put clips into
the production? Yeah, I didthink it was important. I like it.

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And like I said, when Ifirst started listening to Faculty of Horror,
I thought, Okay, they're doingit. It makes sense to do
it. On an audio thing insteadof you a video review. And on
some of theirs when they were doingforeign films, you know, they were
playing audio and I'm like, wellknow subtitles, but I don't care.
You know, that's cool. I'lllisten to this French language version of the

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clip here and not know what's goingon, because that's perfectly fine. Obviously.
You want to do it when it'sinteresting dialogue or something maybe funny or
gross or scarier or whatever, alsoto kind of give it give a break
from me just talking. I thinkit's worked for the most part. In
the episodes, I try to keepit short. I don't want to go

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on forever. I think with TheRacer Head there wasn't too much in there
because there one thing, isn't alot of dialogue, and when there is
dialogue, there are long pauses betweenthe Lynchian pause. Yeah, even more
so in that movie. There's Yeah. I always had it into my head
that there's like twelve lines of dialogue, but I actually counted, kind of

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counted, you know, when Iwatched it before the Free four. I
did that, and I think there'sabout seventy lines of dialogue or something like
that. And then I just ifI had it on DVD, all loaded
up onto the computer and I justrecord the audio. I don't have any
special tools. I know there's Ithink there's something you can get to rip

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audio off of YouTube, but I'lleither use my disc if it's streaming,
I'll use that version, or ifI have to go to YouTube, I'll
do that and I just record theaudio onto garage band. I think I
finally realized I needed to do ita little bit louder. It seems like

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it automatically drops a couple of decibelswhen you do that through garage band,
and finally realized I needed to upa little bit. I mean, I
can always play with the volume andthe track, but it would vary so
much. I didn't want to haveten tracks just for ten different clips.
The future moving onto way you i'llsee the podcast going. Have you reached

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out to any of the podcasts focusedon your show? Are you going to
be doing the show just generally onon your own? As we speak of
what can we expect in the nextfew months from myself, I was going
to put a call out on Twitterand like, hey, if there's any
female writers or podcasters that want totalk about Taxi Driver contact me, and

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I didn't because I don't know whatI'm going to do with the taxi driver
episode. Yet there are a fewpeople that I will be contacting to appear
on something. And I had alwayshad in mind to ask people tell me
what your phantasm was or your touristtrap. But what was that horror movie

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when you were a kid that youcaught, you know, either you snuck
out of your bedroom and watched orthat you just saw some Saturday afternoon and
it really struck a chord And talkabout their recollections of horror as opposed to
mine. You know, I'm opento that from anybody that wants to talk

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about something like that. I'd bemore than happy, even if it's a
movie that I haven't seen or thatI don't like, because I can ask.
You know, it doesn't matter whatmy thoughts are on it if we're
doing your movies. So that isdefinitely an option. And I do have
some friends when are we going todo this? And I think with my

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friend Ronnie, who is the guythat I was watching movies with back in
the twenty thirteen and on, Ithink we're going to do Rosemary's Baby together.
I'm not sure we haven't really nailedit out down. I'm going to
see him this weekend, so maybewe'll talk about it some more. But
we've tossed around a couple of differentmovies that we could do. I think
we always circle back to Rosemary's Baby. I don't really have anybody specific in

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mind. I always kind of geta little gun shy about asking somebody.
I felt comfortable asking Mike because wehad a Twitter and Facebook relationship, and
I just was like, he hasn'tdone any Racerhead yet, and this is
going to be kind of the crowningachievement of this season. And it would

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be helpful if there was someone elseon this because it's, you know,
such a rich movie, and Imean, I could talk about it for
three hours, but nobody wants tolisten to that. You've done your first
few episodes, you've started doing somethingcalled why Didn't I Rent This? I
thought that's an absolutely brilliant idea,and I like the way that you've done

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that. From the patroon side,do you want to just just go start
for it for a few moments,just to let the audience know what that
is and what your thoughts were behindthat. It was because I was seeing
movies that were from my childhood thatI didn't watch, and I thought,
well, I can't do a fullepisode on that. It doesn't fit the
format which I'm not beholden to.I mean, I did one on Black
Christmas, and I didn't see thatmovie as a kid. For things that

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I saw in the video store thatwere intriguing. When I finally watched him
as an adult, I'm like whywhen I actually asked, why didn't I
rent this when I was a kid? I mean, I watched the thing
a hundred times. I could havetaken a week off and watched The Beast
Within or Messiah of Evil or somethinglike that. So I thought, well,

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you know, I'm not going toexpand this into a long one because
I don't know that much about themovie. I don't have a history with
it, and that's part of themain episodes of the show. But I
kind of want to talk about it, and I thought, well, maybe
I'll just do a review and throwthat on the blog. And every time
I think that, I just immediatelytossed that idea aside because it's not I

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don't know what it is. Butto me, thinking about writing at this
point is a total bore. Iwould just rather tinker around with this stuff
on the computer and sit here andrecord and maybe get a fifteen minute episode
out. And so that was sortof the impetus for that was just there's
a ton of movies that I didn'twatch from back then that I've watched now

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that are great, and it's notcosting anybody any money. If I feel
like talking about something, I'll talkabout it. I guess the Patreon thing,
I guess it's just something that everypodcaster ends up doing. And I
sort of wasn't sure I would everdo it, because you know, I'm
not overwhelmed by response to begin with. Yeah, so I thought, well,

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what's the point, you know,what's the point of that There's going
to be these episodes that nobody listensto because they're going to have to pay
for him? But I thought,well, you know, what's screw it.
I'll just go ahead and do it. But I wanted it to be
exclusive content just because of the wayI am. I don't carve out time
to listen to episodes early, andthat seems to be what a lot of

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the podcasts do, and there's nothingwrong with that. I think that people
they're obviously doing it because people liketo be the first to listen to something
maybe, and that idea just didn'tappeal to me as a listener or as
a podcast so I thought, well, I'll just do things that don't fit
any formula so far, just somethinga new discovery or non horror or whatever.

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Whenever it strikes my fancy, Imight throw up on there. It's
certainly a good way of looking aboutit. I think a lot of people
would do it. One way isto I mean, as many people will
know that you can start a podcastquite quite cheaply, but it does cost
money to host some on certain areas, and by releasing earlier, earlier ones,
you can obviously reclaim some of thatmoney back, and especially when you

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get bigger and bigger than obviously that'sthat is a main concern. I decided
to do this podcast because I gotthe bug for being on a podcast and
for doing it, and what Inaturally felt was I struggled with being a
guest, but actually enjoyed hosting andenjoyed intervion, so hence the reason why
this podcast was born. I appreciateyou you're coming on today. It's been

(29:59):
absolutely fantas I really do appreciates it. Where can people find wake up heavy?
I'm on Facebook, Twitter, andInstagram as wake up heavy. If
you just type in wake up heavyon any social media, it should come
up. Patreon is wake up heavy. On the blog is wake up heavy
dot com. I broke down andbought the domain, and I don't know,

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didn't make anything easier, I guess, but it's just kind of nice
to not have to type in blogspot. Yeah. Yeah, any social
media platform, it's just all oneword, wake up heavy. There isn't
a whole lot of other wake upheavy stuff out there, so it's a
phrase that comes up every once ina while, I think in reference mainly
to people who work outright lift weightsor heavy metal, I think sometimes.

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So those are the only other referencesI've seen with the hashtag. So all
those years ago, you've definitely comeup with a unique phrase. Yeah,
and you know, it actually lendsitself to changing. I was just thinking
about this the other day because Iwill eventually run out of movies that I
watched as a kid that left abig impression. I mean, it's a

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it's a finite number. Yeah,that's why kind of why I had added
the subtitle of Recollections of Horror,because that can always change, and the
title is so vague or you know, there's no reference point to it.
I could start talking about all thecult movies that I fell in love with
sort of when I took a breakfrom horror, or just even regular dramas

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and action movies. So I meanit's you know, a little bit harder
if your podcast is called Nightmare onFilm Street. Yeah, so you know
which is That's a fine podcast,and and there's hundreds of horror movies to
talk about. But since I wasbeing so specific about what I was going
to start with, I guess itseemed like maybe I shouldn't be so specific

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with the with the title. Thankyou so much for coming on to pick
up a podcast. Thank you forstarting twenty nineteen with a blast with yourself.
I look forward to hearing your podcastsmoving forward. It's been an absolute
pleasure, and I will no doubtspeak to you on Twitter again in the
near future, and all the bestwith your podcast, and we'll speak to

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you soon. Yeah, thanks somuch, Kurt, and thank you for
taking my suggestion of myself to beon your show. I just wanted to
make sure that everybody knew that Iactually contacted you. And well, the
more people that contact me, thebetter because it makes my job so much
easier. So thank you for that, and again, thank you so much
for coming on and we will speakto you soon. Meanwhile, we are

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