WUH: Longlegs, etc.

Cleo's back and we are joined by a very special first-time guest of the show! We chat about a decades in the making quadrilogy, a new classic horror film, and other bits and bobs throughout. Give it a listen, won't you?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, folks, it's Mark, and as you know, if I'm
breaking in before the show, I have a note to
make about their recording. And in this case, our special guest,
who's never appeared on the show before and has never
recorded on a podcast before, joined us and we didn't
quite have the right audio gear for them. That side

(00:20):
of the conversation is a little sketchy, but audible and understandable,
and so we were happy to have them join us,
and next time we will have a proper audio recording
setup for them. Hopefully that doesn't detract from your enjoyment
of this episode too much. It's just three people talking

(00:42):
about a bunch of movies they watched that they really enjoyed.
Have fun. Wake Up Heavy is a weirdy Way media podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Welcome to Wake Up Heavy, the world's greatest horrorvie podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Dudes, don't I love you?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
You do?

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Sweet week, you.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Your duty, sweet your mack. On this episode, my weird

(01:45):
dad and I will be talking about it seems I.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Wore my longings today.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Hello, and welcome to Wake Up Heavy. This is Mark Bigley,
your host, and joining me once again is my second
or third favorite co host, my daughter Cleo. Hey, making
her debut on the show is Cleo's mom and my

(02:17):
wife Carlida.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
Hey, Hi, everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Have you been on a podcast, babe?

Speaker 7 (02:26):
No, my first endeavor on a podcast, yay.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Carlita was off of work for a while after having
a minor exploratory surgery and we had a little marathon
of a certain franchise and the idea for this was
sort of born out of that. And then some time
has passed since then, but we've seen some other things,

(02:53):
and so this will be kind of about that quadrilogy
that we watch, which apparently Cleo doesn't recall what I'm
talking about by the look on her face, and a
recent movie that we all saw at the cinema and
some connections with that, and then a bunch of other

(03:15):
stuff that we've watched over the last gosh, a couple
of months, actually, all the way back till April. Kleil
was the last time you and I talked. So so
let's start with the franchise that I'm talking about, and
that is the Mad Max series A Maximum Force, which

(03:37):
you guys said you wanted to watch because of the
Furios movie that came out. Gosh, what has it been
at least a month or so now that it came out. Yeah, yeah,
And I'm like, I'm always up for watching the Mad
Max movies. Yeah, we did work our way through all four,
not like in one day or one night or even

(03:58):
one week, but we made it through. Cleiol. What's your
history with the Mad Max movies?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I had seen You Made Me watch Made You,
Yeah Road Warrior mm hmm, and it was weird but fun.
And then a little before Furiosa came out, but before
we did our marathon, Will put on Fury Road and

(04:25):
I saw the first like maybe twenty thirty minutes of
that movie, and I loved it. I thought it was
really weird. So I finally was like, Okay, we got
to watch the rest of them, so I can watch
that movie.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
So first time watching the first one and first time
watching the third one. Yeah, beyond Thunderdome. How about you, babe,
which ones had you seen before?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well?

Speaker 7 (04:45):
I really hadn't seen them all the way through.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
I mean I knew of all of the movies, you know,
because they came out when we were young, and I
think I would catch it here and there if they
were getting replayed on table or something. And then of
course thundered. That one with Tina Turner was big because
that was in the eighties, and I totally remember when
that came out, but I've never really watched them all
the way through, So this was my first time.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I grew up on Road Warrior. I'm just going to
say it right now. It's still my favorite. I think
it's amazing what they did without any CGI or anything
else like that, and some of the crazy stunts that happened,
So that one is still my favorite. And I watched
it so much when I was a kid that when
Beyond Thunderdome came out, like a lot of people is

(05:29):
kind of disappointed with it because it sort of went
in a weird direction.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Weird.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
This is probably the only third time I've ever watched
it was with you guys, And it seems to have
a lot more in common with Fury Road than the
first two films. To those two films seem to connect
a lot more. The first one is just sort of
a weird Yeah. I mean I was disappointed with that
one when I saw it too, because of having seen
The Road Roy or so many times, like, well, this

(05:56):
is a totally different kind of movie. Now they're all
totally different of movies in a way.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Even Furio is like way different from Fury.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Road, and I think a lot of people were bothered
by that. They were expecting, like Fury Road Part two.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I liked Seurios. I thought it was really I liked
it too.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
I like the prequel, and I was, yeah, I would
like to see I guess after what happens after Fury Road.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I'm curious what that would look like.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, I think there's been talk of that. There's been
talk of a number of different Yeah, many avenues well,
and they're also different, and it becomes almost like a folklore.
Where is Max really the same character or is it
something someone that's just being described these those Yeah, isn't

(06:41):
that what.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
They kind of touched on in Thunderdome. I don't know, those.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Tribe of kids, you know, I called it Lord of
the Rings, but whatever. They thought he was some kind
of they thought he was there to save them.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Right, Oh yeah, sort of like C three po and.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
Yeah, yeah, he walks, Yeah, exactly, That's what I thought of.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's so funny. And even at the end of thunder
Jones they have that little like I think it happens
in Road Warrior too. They have like the kids in
either of those movies talking about this is the random
man named Max who helped us, so he becomes like
a legend to these people. I think that happens in
both of them, with the Faral kid and the tribe
of children.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
A lot of people also put that on it because
in Fury Road it's now Tom Hardy and he's much
younger than you know he would be if this was
a chronological history of him. He is Max Rocketansky in
that which is the name that Max has in the

(07:37):
first film. It doesn't really matter. Yeah, people play different
characters in different movies. The villain of the first movie
is the villain of Fury Road.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
A couple other people from the first movie are in
the new one, the gyro pilot and Road Warrior is
a different character in the next movie. You know, So
it doesn't really matter. What's your favorite, Cleo.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's like kind of hard because I I want to say,
like Fury Road, and then it's either Road Warri or Firiosa.
But Fury Road is probably my favorite because of how
high energy it is.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Just one long chase movie. Yeah, what about you, Carly?

Speaker 7 (08:24):
I think I agree with Cleo.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I really liked Fury Road because you know, it's all
women stuff and I liked that. I really liked how
they did that and her care went for yeah, and
her saving the virgins and the storyline and then trying
to get back to her people who were obviously I think,
a tribe of women.

Speaker 7 (08:44):
And yeah, I agree to Road Warrior. I liked those
two just because, yeah, it was crazy, it was fun, fun.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Very intense.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Road Warrior is still my favorite, but I like the
two newer films very much. And we need to watch
Furiosa again because that's the only one I seen once. Yeah,
they went woke with Fury Road and Max hardly talks
and he's not really the main character and down thumbs down, boom,

(09:13):
it's so bad.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
Hey, it was.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
It was a male supporting and empowering women because you know,
he helps.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
The favorite mad.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
So we had another little mini not marathon, but what
do you call it?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Connected films. And again I don't think we watched these
like the same night or even back to back, but
we watched some notty none films that had a lot
of buzz were good.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, I liked it.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
With immaculate starring Sydney Sweeney and the first OMEN with
Nell Tiger Free, and they both came out around the
same time, and we're both getting considerable buzz and Immaculate
had a really cool rollout, like a lot of interesting
promotional stuff, especially with her. There are a lot of

(10:08):
similarities in the films.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
They're very similar, Yeah, but the motives are a little
bit different.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah right, Yeah, the end the result is different. I
guess for both they're young women in convince events getting
tortured a bit aside to do horrible things. I guess.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
Were they both in Italy?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Right? I think so?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
So which one of those knotty none movies did you like? Fest,
Cleo or more I should say kind of hard?

Speaker 7 (10:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Both really good and like different aspects, like Immaculate was
a little less crazy. First Omen was that one scene
was silly?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, I was that was know anything about that surprising?
I knew that I had heard that there was something
like oh they went there and yeah, yeah, Like with
so many other things, it's like, oh, you know, what
is it going to be. It's going to be really
mild And no, that was shocking. I don't think I've
seen that in a mainstream horror for something like that.

Speaker 7 (11:18):
In a non educational film.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, literally, the closest thing I've seen to that is
literally the intro to Amie.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh yeah, well on the Yeah, and that's an.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Act that's also normal, that's a normal.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah. That was like, they're not gonna they're not gonna
go there. They're not going to go there. Oh they
pretty much did. Yeah, you haven't, not to spoil it,
but yeah, you'll be surprised. And that's on Huluna. I
don't know if Immaculate it's streaming anywhere currently. I didn't check.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I don't know. But another little connection to our later
movie we watched. Isn't Immaculate a Neon movie too?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yes? Yes, yes it is. Yeah, they've been coming out
with the hit recently. They're a twenty four better watch
their backs.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah, kind of like, well, we saw those previews for
me on movies before we watched.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
What was it called Cuckoo?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I want to see that one that's been getting a
lot of buzz so oh Sircy, Oh goodness, our cat's
having a fit because we're all on separate rooms recording
although you too, Yeah, guys, do it?

Speaker 7 (12:30):
She really get it. She's like a toddler out of sight,
out of my Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Literally, she has no object permanent. So funny that echoed
through all of our.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
Is she where is she?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I think she's in front of Dad's because I heard
it through.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
His Okay, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
And not.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Other than our nightly er, which we get back to
every summer and have been doing since the pandemic, we
have watched quite a bit of other stuff because you
were home for what three weeks? Yeah, And one of
those was Which Is of east Wick? Which I think
we've been pushing for a while, haven't we. It's come
up a bunch. It's something fun to watch. And finally,

(13:34):
did you've seen it before? Curly right?

Speaker 7 (13:36):
No?

Speaker 4 (13:37):
I was thinking I have, But I'm like, oh I did.
I mean, you know, just I remember when that stuff
comes out that came out that I guess I never
had actually thought that was good?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
What about you, Clail? Would you think that was so weird?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
The charity scene hurt my feelings?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah? I knew because it kind of hurt my feelings
when I saw on this year because that stuff still
sort of grossed me out, Like the scene and stand
by me and.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
One doesn't get me because it just looks like it's
just purple. So that one doesn't bother me that much
when it's like me speaking of E R when it's
R level.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
Yeah, that'sy man is gross.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, that's way worse than either of those, which is
a beast or stand by me? Yeah, I didn't seen
which is abasta qu in a long time, but it's fun.
I was thinking, oh, this is going to be so
problematic because it's you know, late eighties and Jack Nicholson
and these three women.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I love Jack Nicholson, especially when he plays roles like
that where you're just like, oh my god.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
Yeah, and I like the three women, ye three, which
is yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
We caught I don't know how many times we caught
moon Struck. It was playing two or three different channels.
It was on TCM and it was on m GM
and one of our other Yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
I feel like once we watched and then it kept
coming on. But that was really good too.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I like that a cute movie.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, it's a classic. Had you not seen that one either, babe?

Speaker 7 (15:08):
No, see a lot of these movies.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I remember when they'd come out and all this stuff,
you know, surrounding them and all the.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
Oscar nominations for Moonstruck, and I think share one.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
I remember all the stuff about the movie, but I
never actually saw.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
What were you doing as a teenager?

Speaker 7 (15:23):
Was I really a teenager though when that came out?

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Maybe early eighty nine? Yeah, so I was fourteen or
eighty seven?

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Maybe eighty seven, No, eighty seven, I would have been fourteen.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
Yeah, so early watching other movies.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I don't know, watch Goings for the Million of Time, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
Pretty going to the theater, yeah, dirty dancing, whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, well yeah, you might not have been able to
get into this one.

Speaker 7 (15:47):
Actually, yeah, that's what I seen.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
That's true because we did go my friends and I
we would go watch a lot of movies, but I
don't I if it was our I wouldn't have been
able to see it.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh well, yeah, I forget that's the thing. Forget that
our movies because I watched so many of them.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I have a question for you when we get to
our big movie for this episode. Speaking of that, we
also watched The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. I think
I got the title right, Yeah, the meta Nick Cage
maybe with Pablo Pablo Piscal Pedro Piscal. That was your

(16:25):
pick mom.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
Yeah, well because nobody had any ideas and I'm like, oh,
what's this? So it looked interesting and it ended up
being pretty good.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, it was. I thought it was going to be
like kind of like cringe, but it was. It was like,
actually pretty fun, especially they're both of their performances were
so just like silly. I really enjoyed it actually, Like
I was surprised.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I like him in the car looking at Nicholas King.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Yeah, relationship, they're both.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
High up their mind or whatever, and they're just they
were stone during that scene. But it's been memed so much.
I didn't really know what the context was of that.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
So and they're like driving on the wrong side of
the road or whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, you know, Nick Cage playing
in a fictionalized version of himself was Yeah, it didn't
get as over the top as it could have, so
that was kind of nice. It was fun.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
I was just saying, I like the gal that played
his wife, his real wife in the movie.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Oh yeah, the British Yeah, the Game Night gal. Yes, Yeah,
she's good. How can I be profitable for freedomly?

Speaker 7 (17:37):
She was in that my show I watched Two Good
Bad Sisters.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, and another silly film we watched, and another pick
by you, Carlita was the pop tart movie Unfrosted on Netflix,
Jerry Seinfeld's directorial debut.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
Yeah, and he wrote it too.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
I think, yeah, again, we didn't have nobody can decide
on something, so I just picked that.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
Well, and I like McCarthy, Melissa McCarthy, so it would
have to be funny.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
So in some way, So it was silly. It wasn't horrible.
I heard kind of bad things about it, but it
was entertaining. It was kind of weird. It's like, why
are we doing this?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Like the part insurrection thing was insane.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
That was so those two kids that kept popping.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
Up were divers. Yeah, so good.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, it was just weird.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
It was like silly movie.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
It almost made me reminded me. It felt cartoonish even
though it was. Yeah, that was the feel.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I really liked the production design of it though, that
all the midsentry stuff and just the brightness of it
and like it's done very well.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah. There was like moon stuff too, like they had
the fake moon thing or whatever. That was also just
like there was so much. There's a lot of stuff
going on.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
The anthropomorphic Ravioli.

Speaker 7 (19:05):
Oh my, oh my gosh. Yes, that was still.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Around, the little Creature, the Frankin Ravioli.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, why why are we doing this? I don't know
if it was a commentary on all those movies that
had come out recently, like the Flaming Hot Cheetos one
and all, you know, these stories about these inventions, like
sort of modern inventions that I'm like, why do I
care who invented flaming Hot Cheetos?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Literally?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, I think this was shortly before our trip, we
watched a classic Steve Martin film that we've been mentioning
for a while. But finally I'm not sure what prompted
that we saw something.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
It was on I was getting ready, Yeah, yeah, all right,
it was on.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, that's right, And you came in and like watch Splash. Yes,
it's like, oh, we need to watch Parenthood because is great.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
And then Amadeus Quasimoto was on screen and.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I was like, what's going on? Tomholes? All kinds of
people in that movie. Mary Steenbergeon one of our favorites
Keanu and I think and Woking. I think that's my
second favorite Keanu Reeves role after River's Edge, because I
love him in River's Edge.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
He's so silly in it.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Martha Plimpton, you know, Diane Weese Woking.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
She's always great.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah, yeah, little baby walking Leaf Phoenix.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Tons of people.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
What mom's age. She's the same age as you, so
he's like you, you're younger.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, and that was eighty nine, I believe. Yeah, he
would have been fourteen ish when they filmed it. Probably
just a fun I really.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Liked that movie because I didn't know what to expect,
because I don't know what the heck it was about.
So I was like, Okay, we'll watch it.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
A big family and they're issues and it's a round
horror movie. How can you go wrong? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (21:04):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
The grandma kind of surprised at how long. Oh the
grandma is great.

Speaker 7 (21:09):
I love her.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, her competing about like she needs to get a
man or whatever. That was so.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, she was cute. We watched Repo Man.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
Okay, oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
That was That was my choice because no one can
make a decision. We want something funny, Well here's Repo Man.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
That was after our Mad Max thing, wasn't it, Because again,
probably we were still in like a weird car.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
We watched it in between the New Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,
which I forgot because that was right after first Omen.
Then we watched Repo Man, and then we I did
fall asleep, that's right, And we watched the Cage. Yeah,
I was. I like the artwork in that.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, it's very similar to Spider Verse, with the like yes,
yeah that's what I frame rate and the.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Scil lines and stuffy Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I liked it. I like that movie. It was cute.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Ye, I'll have to watch it again because I missed
a huge chunk of it.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, that was on the floor or something.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
You remember he was on the couch, you were on
the floor.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I didn't fall asleep during Repo Man though, No.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, we all watched that. That was I think we
were all on a couch.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
It's a weird one clue.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, that beginning scene where he just gets like obliterated.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Okay, well, I love the glowing car and the whole
thing about the car versus crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
It's mediation, diverse, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
It's just fun.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
And then the dude, the winner on Jeopardy looked like
the dude oh my god. Oh yeah, because it was
right right after we've watched it, he.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Make the post about it.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
He did my Instagram for context about what we're talking about.
I wasn't seeing guy.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Feeling sev feeling sealent seving.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I'm feelings Chris Refreshion, Theeings, the clear ran light, America's drinking.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Seven up and it showed feels right, feeling lucky seven.
Kevin stops singing? Is a singing guy.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
I'm standing right next to you and you fucking singing.
Cut it out.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
About Ken Kevin's my favorite character, income man.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
By the way, Napoleon Dynamite.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, yeah, totally mix, mix of it. And so that
kind of brings us to our focus on this episode.
And that is a recent movie. And if you follow
me on any of my social media, you'll know that
this is the first movie that I have gone to

(23:59):
see in the theater since twenty twenty. And there's a
connection between the two films. You guys have been a
few times obviously, yeah, last four years. I haven't been
to one in four years. So we were on vacation
last week in the central coast of California, Pismo Beach,

(24:20):
and it coincided the trip was planned like what a
year ago.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
Yeah, February.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah, we started talking about it before then, but yeah,
we narrowed it down in February.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
It's been Yeah, it's been a while.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
And so this movie was rolling out and I'm like, oh,
it's going to be plain when we're on vacation. I
wonder if it'll be playing anywhere near where we are.
And since it's you know, sleepy little coastal towns, you
don't know if movies like this that aren't from major
studios are going to play. But it did. The three

(24:53):
of us plus Cleo's cousin Will, my nephew, our nephew
went to see the new Oz Perkins film Long Legs.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
There she is the almost birthdayirl. Oh but it seems
I wore my long leggs today, what happens.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, So the last movie I had seen in the
theater was Kretel and Hansel by Oz Perkins back in
February of twenty twenty, before the pandemic hit. I'm a
fan of his. I've seen all of his movies. Yeah,
and I think Cleo, now you have as well, and
Mom will have to catch up with us, and I'm
happy to watch the other ones again. Oh yeah, but

(25:50):
what'd y'all think of long legs.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I'm really really delighted too.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah, well, especially all the hype with you and Will
being all freaked out at.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
The going to be we're scared, and then we go
and it was I really really yeah, I really loved it.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
And I liked too.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
That there were those little he just I felt like
he played it so well and then his little like
humorous things.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
That he did. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
I just I thought the whole thing was good. And
I love that Alicia Whitt, isn't it And and surprising
Blair Underwood that was I was like.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
What, Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
It was really good. Oh and Kierenan she was in there,
so that was a little fun thing. I didn't know
Alicia was in it either. I just knew about.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Micah Monroe, who you and I are definitely fans of
Clue because we've watched quite a few films. You've watched.
It follows with me, I think as well. So she's the.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Lead girl in that and my favorite one of my
favorite horror movies, and.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
That Watchers movie that we watched was really good. And
I've seen her in quite a few other things and
she's always good in whatever she's in, whether in the
movies like top Notch or not, she's good.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
She's like a certifi'd scream Cooen and I'd say she's
really done. So she I think I've only seen her
in Horror. I don't think I've No, I don't think
I've seen her in anything else.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
So yeah, I mean she definitely is in a lot
of genre films. I'm trying to think if there's something
I've seen that goes outside of that, and I don't
think so. I know she's been in some other stuff,
but yeah, I don't think I've seen any of them either.
The marketing for this movie, though, was brilliantly done by Neon. Yeah,

(27:33):
started gosh, I don't know how many months ago, just
really vague creepy images from the film. It got people
pretty hyped, and then of course word of mouth when
it was playing festivals was really big. It got the
old Scariest movie of all Time crap, which I don't
think does any of these movies any No, it does

(27:55):
not help mavies service because they said that about it.
It follows and I went and saw it fall in
the theater. I was like, yeah, shatting and all that scary.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
It's like to me, it's like creepy, but not like it's.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Very It's a very and scariest objective just like yeah,
just like comedy is.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
It's objective. It might be the scariest movie this particular
person saw, but you know then, because then you get
all the backlash of it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
You know?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
I wasn't scared. And some people equate it with jump
scares or jump screams.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
Screams, Yeah like them, how do you jump on your scream?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah? Perfect?

Speaker 1 (28:37):
And there was good. You did have a good jump
scream in this.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah that when it flashed that, yeah, that was.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
And then Will had it on.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
That was so funny, like turning, Oh how's Will doing?
And we just see him pull his hoodie down over
his face. Before the movie even started.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I had to ask almost every day if my daughter
and my nephew were going to go because they were
chickening out because of the hype that they.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Had heard of marketing dude.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Will's apparently a little baby scaredy cat and hasn't even finished,
which I don't fault him on because that one, to me,
is actually creepier and more dread filled than long legs
for some reason.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I was going to say it's more realistic, but if
you've seen Black Coat's Daughter, that's not.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well, it is because it's necessarily satanic, whereas in this
one they're pushing that a lot more as this is
part of the story. This isn't necessarily in somebody's mind.
I think the setting in Black Coat's Daughter adds to that.
And it just being like three young girls as the

(29:55):
center of the stories and how that can be kind
of more dreadful. Yeah, of adults and FBI agents and yeah, mom.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
You'll have to watch Black Coat Starter with us. Yeah,
and soon.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's very good, you know, the scariest movie thing whatever.
But the dread is the other word that everybody was using,
and it's just filled. Every scene is dripping with dread
and this and this and this.

Speaker 7 (30:20):
I wouldn't say.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
That again hyperbole, but there is an underlying disturbing tone
throughout the film. Yeah, I agree with her childhood, her
life as you get bits and pieces of it, is
pretty awful. Yeah, there's this negative energy revolving around all
the characters.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yes, yeah, even in just you see this in a
like literally everything I think I've watched the way he
frames stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
There was that scene where well, when me and Will
first saw something cough cough, she's just like sitting, Yeah,
in the FBI room. She's just sitting and it's like
framed in this big space and you're looking behind her
because there has to be something behind her.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
There is.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's just very like, I don't like the vibe or
like when she's in her Lincoln Long house literally what
it looks like. It looks like like the big windows. Yeah,
there's this one shot where she's at the desk and
then the big door.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Way is behind open doorway behind her and.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
It's just like pitch black. And I was just when
we're in the theater, I was just.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Like, yeah, that's what you're looking at your Yeah, really
or even unnaturally if you're not maybe horror aficionado, Yeah,
I think if you are, you're particularly looking, but your
eyes drawn there either way. He does a lot with
those static camera shots and the camera barely moves in

(31:53):
any of his movies, which I just love.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, I really like that style.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Lots of composition, blocking all that stuff is a little
more important than a moving camera that this and actually
in Long Legs, I think it moves the most than
in any of his previous films.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Will we were watching, Oh God, what's the full title?
I'm the pretty thing that lives in this house? Yeah,
if that's the full I probably got there wrong.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Something to that. I am the pretty thing that lives
in the house in this house.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
It's a long title that one has a lot of
just the camera just not move a lot in that movie.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, they're locked down. The camera's locked down and the
characters move in and out of frame. Yeah, and I
love that. That's one of the reasons I like his
movies so much. Yeah, not as apparent in Long Legs,
because they're on the go and she's an FBI agent
and you have to have a camera has to move
when they're within a scene like that sort of her

(32:46):
opening with the other FBI agent. I thought they were
looking for Long Legs at that point, but apparently was
another murderer. The whole thing that was being worked on.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
That was a big Oh yeah, seeh I thought that
was Yeah. I thought the same thing originally too.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I know the movie about like can we use spoilers?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Can we use spoiler So if you don't want to
hear spoilers then jump ahead to this portion of the episode.

Speaker 7 (33:09):
Skip to forty five thirty six.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Okay, the cold open, which I remember a lot of
people were like, oh my god, the cold open is
like so disturbing and so scary. It's not. But I
really liked it because for a lot of the movie,
you don't think that little girl is what's her name?

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Lee?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Is that her name? You're just like, Oh, it's probably
one of the other victims, or it's Kieranan Shika who
That's who I thought it was. I think I said that.
I was like, Oh, it's Kiernan, isn't it. No. I
loved the framing back to framing in that opening because
she's like walking and then you can kind of see

(33:47):
just snow and white. And that's the other thing. Long
legs mister, he's dressed in all white, but you kind
of see him in the background a little bit. I
don't know. That opening seed was so good. And then
I wanted to talk about his singing and dancing and screaming.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Well, that was part of the movie. Yeah, that was
the other thing. I has it rolled out into festivals.
It's like, you will not recognize Nicholas Cage in this
and I'm glad they were so protective of the image
because it is a big part of the shock of
the film is what he looks like, and it wouldn't
be as big of a shock if you didn't know

(34:26):
it was him. But I also kind of agree with
the Red Letter media guys who talked about this on
a recent episode where may have benefited the movie if
it wasn't Nicholas Cage. And you have these expectations of
someone who does go kind of over the top on occasion,
and it might pull you out of well, this is

(34:48):
Nicholas Cage being Nicholas Cage, but the makeup plays a
good dude keeping you from thinking that because he does
not look like Nicholas Cage.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Wild Yeah, his map, his.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
They mentioned in that episode again, he's trying to look
like a doll apparently or something something his.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Face, trying to look like he looks like the rock star.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah, it looks like they needed boys and you know
furry road and.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Boys voice.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, are dying of.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
The Yeah, he needed his blood, he needed he needs
a blood bag.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
He needed Max on the front of his station wagon.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know, I guess
you're saying, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
I liked that. I knew that it was Nick Cage.
He was unrecognizable.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
It's so crazy to think about it being Nick Cage
because like the scene where he's singing, Yeah, the singing
is my favorite.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Disturbing, borderline comical, and I'm sure and in lots of
theaters people laugh at that.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Oh yeah, we were laughing.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
I was like it was psychotic a little bit.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, even if you are laughing, because it's so ridiculous,
it's still disturbing.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
Yeah, yess, yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
If I was that girl, she's probably like what, I
don't know. I'm gonna say, like thirteen when that happened.
It's probably not right, but like she was a young
kid at Yeah, if a man, first of all, who
looked like that, who's like the newest star of a
new episode of Botched, looked like that, came up to
me and started singing and doing little hand movements and

(36:36):
just I literally that's so scary. As funny as it
is on screen, that would be terrifying to happen and
rein oh.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, oh yeah. Well, oftentimes as a kid, you kind
of just freeze up.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
You know, so just kind of what she did. But
she took a picture of him, which is also crazy.
I wouldn't have the boss do that.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
And the fact that she then blacked it out and
didn't remember until she saw the pool ride again.

Speaker 7 (36:56):
Yeah, like she had no recollection. Wow, you know.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
And one of my favorite scenes was the best when
he's waiting at the bust stop.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
And get.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
He puts his suitcases.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Down, like I mentioned to you in the car the
other day, Cleo, he does his little raising Erra dip.
He does his raising Arizona tiptoe dance in that, and
I I just lost it because yah.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I was surprised that they caught him so quickly.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
Yeah too.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Everybody was so tight lipped, and I think, respecting the
twists and turns of the movies, I didn't realize that
he was going to be caught so quick. And then
I thought, Okay, this either means he's not the guy,
which should be crazy, which be weird, or he has
a partner, or it's supernatural, which it is but in

(37:50):
a different way. I was thinking if it's one of
those three things, and where are we going And the
connection with her and her mom I'm not sure how
cool I am with that. What do you mean, though, babe,
that it's her mom that's the partner. I don't know,
it's like how that became.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
Yeah, it just.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Seemed a little convenient.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, and I guess that also happens when you have
like what four characters in the Yeah, Like there's not
a lot of people in that movie.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I'm not saying it doesn't make sense or I don't know.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
Yeah, yeah, or.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
With her mom, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 7 (38:27):
I mean I guess I kind of saw.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Too that she was just enough of a wacko that
she went along with it, you know, even though she's
The way they made it seem was that she had
to do it for her daughter wouldn't be allowed to
grow up, Like as she said that her mom was
an interesting character in it ever self.

Speaker 7 (38:45):
So yeah, I feel like that kind of makes sense
to me.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
It's not that it doesn't make sense, it's just that
I get the method of recruiting her, but that it's
her mom and she's now the FBI agent that's hunting him. Yeah, yeah,
it almost makes it too story. I don't know, say
it bug me a little bit. I don't mind it
so much. Upon reflection, like sometimes on Criminal Minds when

(39:09):
it looks like there's two separate stories, but then they
connect and it's like, why are we connecting these Why
can't they just be two separate stories things. Yeah, which,
like they said on Red Letter Media, this isn't unlike
a number of Criminal Minds episodes how funny.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
It's not the same. But there is an episode where
one of the unsubs is making people into her dolls.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
That she has. Yeah, that is a creepy episode.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
That is one of my favorite episodes because it's horrifying.
And then the other episode that's similar is the puppet
episode where he also makes the victim's puppets. Mommy probably
know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Maybe is it the one where his mom was was
the movie star or he thinks.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, something like that. It's like a weird in the
theater and he has the marionettes and they're like their
joints are popped out. It's such a gross oh, but
like definitely similarities. And then one of the biggest ones
was Silence of the Lambs, which we've seen how many times?

Speaker 7 (40:12):
Yeah, gazillion.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
I love that movie well, and that made me think
So when Cleo, you were talking about the opening scene
and long Wings and how it didn't have anything to
do with the rest of the movie. Isn't I'm trying
to repair and I always seen a gazillion times, But
isn't that similar to Silence of the Lambs. Isn't like
that opening scene. Isn't there a scene where they find someone? Well,
then then she starts to go to work on the

(40:36):
actual In the sense.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Of the Lambs, she's doing the like what it reminded
me of when they were doing that scene where they
go to the.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Oh, you're talking about what I said about her and
her partner, the short lived partner or going to the house. Okay,
I was confused because I was not the whole not
with her.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It reminded me inside of the
Lambs of the scene where she's practicing and they go
check your corners and she gets fake shot when they're
moving through the fake houses, right right, right, right, yes,
except you know her partner does actually get shot in
the face.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
There's no other investigation in Silence of the Lambs. It's
just that she's sent to Hannibal Lecter under false pretenses.
So she doesn't know she's going there as part of
the Bill investigation. Yeah, but they're not separate.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
They recruit Lee after they see like, oh she has
clairvoyance or whatever. So we're gonna have you work on
this really weird case. It's similar, it's sill. Lambs is
definitely what inspired it, there's no way.

Speaker 7 (41:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, that it did remind me.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, and the Zodiac and.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
The smiley face.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Yeah, the triangle with a smiley face and probably other
serial killers, you know, like even though that was a
was it a dollar a mannequin that they found them
in that box, but you don't know, we know of
serial care are people that conducted people and.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
Kept him in a box.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
So the dolls hurt my feelings when we watched that.
In that scene where they opened the barn up and
they get the box out and they pick it up
in its life size, I was like, I don't like.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
And very realistic. The face facial features are very really
realistic on all the dolls.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, and you can tell when he was making them,
you could tell which one was which, like, oh, lease,
oh this is Kieran and ship does and then of
course at the end, oh this is Ruby.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Yeah, I think, yeah, her name well, and I think
it's interesting too when.

Speaker 7 (42:34):
They find the first doll and then I guess it's the.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Guy that like dissected it and he bounced the thing
in the head.

Speaker 7 (42:40):
And he's like, well, keep putting this. And I swear
it was telling me to do something to my wife.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Well, you don't think anything of it until later when
you realize that's really what was happening.

Speaker 7 (42:48):
It was telling people to do stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, it's it was making him think of his ex wife,
which he not that he was going to do anything
to her, but it kept making him think of her,
and he happened out of her and forever.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Which you're just like the.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Whole mechanics of the thing or like whatever, it seems
a little convoluted, but that's okay.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
But hey man, it doesn't have to be some super
complicated this is the magic orb or whatever. It could
just be a ball with satan juice in it. Yeah,
I'm fine with that. Like, it doesn't bother me that much.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't need to explain it at all. Yeah, yeah, literally,
like you don't want explain it because that's even worse.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
But it's just like it's a little silly put the.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Thing and the thing and then you give it, okay whatever.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah, Yeah, the dolls were gross. And then I remember,
I think it was the day after we watched it.
I was like scrolling through TikTok and like an article
popped up and it was like he Perkins got the
inspirations for that because John Benet Ramsay had a life
sized doll of her right in her basement where she

(43:55):
was found dead, and that's where he was like, what
if we put dolls that looked exactly like all the
victims in it? And I went, that's terrifying. Yeah, that's horrifying. Yeah,
what the heck? Because you literally like, ah, I really hope,
out of all things in this movie, the dolls aren't
something that was based in reality. Guess what, guess what they.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Were, and you can buy dolls like that that are
a likeness of yourself.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Pretty spooky though. The dolls were just so freaky. I
did not. I think it's because they were well, other
than the fact that there's the scenes where it cuts
to their face with the veil on it and it
has the like yellow eyes. That was that looked really
scary in the theaters. Yeah, heart in theaters, Like, I
get what you're talking about with the like, oh, like,

(44:46):
did it really have to be the mom that was
his partner? But I kind of liked the fact that
long Legs wasn't in the movie a lot. Well.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
I was thinking he'd be in it even less. To
be honest with you, I was surprised that he could
you see him as soon as we do, and that
we had as many scenes with him as we do,
just because of the comparison's Two Sounds of the Lamps,
where you get little snippets of Bill throughout the film,
but no real interaction with him until the very end,
except for between him and his captive at that point

(45:15):
his dog. Yeah, but it's nice not knowing anything because
they kept so tight lipped about it.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
Yeah, okay, so did he he directed it?

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Right?

Speaker 7 (45:26):
Did he write it?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Oz Perkins? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:29):
No, he did both.

Speaker 7 (45:30):
Okay, Oz Perkins wrote and directed it.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (45:32):
I was seeing that Age directed it.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
No, no, no, no, he just started it, okay, and then
Cleo and I watched I Am the Pretty Thing. I'll
just shorten it to that. The other his other Netflix
movie with Ruth Wilson, The Duck Face Girl, she's in
a bunch of your shows and stuff. The Woman in
the Wall something you're watching right now.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
We're looking at that. And that was so funny, which.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Relates to that film if anybody's seen it. And and
then the three of us watched Gretel and Hansel last night.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yeah, that was fun that. It was very weird, but
I liked it.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Again, very dialized, interesting composition. Throughout almost all of his
movies up to maybe Long Legs, probably as the biggest cast.
They're all very self contained, like three or four characters
in isolated spots. I mean, the Pretty Thing in the
House is her basically almost solo.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah, because even miss Blum I think was her name,
she's like barely in it.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Also because she's like senile, but you know, she's a lot.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
He keeps it simple, which is smart.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yeah, I like it. And then yes, I checked Nick
Cage produced Long Legs. That's what I was saying.

Speaker 7 (46:46):
Okay, I knew it was something.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
I was thinking, Yeah, he did something on it, but
I didn't have anything else about Long Legs.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I don't know, just that I really liked it. I
will definitely have to rewatch it now.

Speaker 7 (46:56):
Yeah, but I definitely want to rewatch it. Yeah, I
want to watch it.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I was talking to Chris earlier recording the Chevy Chase
Show and mentioned that I had seen it and he
had watched it too, and then we both were like, yeah,
I need to watch it at least a couple more
times to catch one thing, to catch all the hidden demons. Yeah,
me spoilers again, So if you haven't caught all the demons,
you need to do that.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah. Me and Will only saw like three, and then
it turns out there's like fifteen or whatever, like much
more than what we saw.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
So I'm sort of glad I hadn't heard about that beforehand,
because that's probably all I would have been looking for,
and Wess a bunch of other stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
So yeah, when it first happened, because you two were
sitting ast to each other, and then me and Will
were sitting like side by side, me and him saw
the first one, and we both kind of just looked
at each other and then immediately back to the screen
and it just was gone, and we were like, what
was that? What was that? Yeah, we cut a few more, but.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
One of them was fairly obvious, and then yeah, now
you're kind of clued in that something's happening, not as.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
As haunting of Hillhouse.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
That's exactly what I was going to say.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Clari, those were hidden that when I found out of
the piano.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
And then that's all you started looking for though, So
it's it's yeah, I'm again glad. Yeah, me too, because
that would have been very distracting to be like, well,
we're instead of pained a movie.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I'm glad I didn't know about the dolls either. I
didn't the dolls are in the trailer, but also not
really because it's just the eyes. I'm glad I didn't
know a lot about this movie because it made it again,
like you were saying, me and Will were freaking out
before we even saw the movie.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
So yeah, right, scaredy cats were worried they weren't going
to be able to sleep for the rest of the
week or something.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Marketing was crazy, Yeah, sadly nowhere else.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
The marketing was very sharp and smart. It still seems
like they're keeping things tightly under wraps because I can't
find any clips online except for crappy TikTok videos.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yes, yeah, we're trying to All the clips you're hearing
are might not sound that.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Great because it's TikTok and I think it's people recording
in the theater. SOPs, there'll be some echo and cred
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
We saw Long Legs on Mom's birthday.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah yeah, well that was part of which is kind
of her birthday presence and Will's late birthdays before.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
So yeah, that was good.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
If only you were born on the fourteenth month.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yeah, and the fact that it was so centered around birthdays.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Perfect birthday movie and in between years and Will's actually.

Speaker 7 (49:43):
Yeah, yeah, all right, We're.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Going to take a quick break and then be back
with some more chats about stuff that clue on I watched.
Spoilers are over for Long Legs. Feel free to come
back and join us after the break.

Speaker 8 (50:01):
Jus my head.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Okay, so one of the other go ahead.

Speaker 7 (50:30):
No, I was looking up Oz Perkins. But it's showing
legally Blonde.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yes, yes, he's in legally Blonde.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (50:36):
Oh okay.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (50:37):
My name is David Kidney. I have a master's in
Russian literature, a PhD in biochemistry, and for the last
eighteen months I've been deworming orphans in Somalia.

Speaker 7 (50:50):
Awesome, look at the I need to look at the pictures.
I need to look at his face.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
He's hit her little like friend in legally.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Blonde chubby face. Yeah, he did something before he Yeah,
I got into writing and directing.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Okay, we got to find that movie that was on Yeah.

Speaker 7 (51:11):
There he is. Yeah, that's funny. Okay, what we're gonna say, Mary.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Just that another film that clear and I watched that.
You caught the tail end of or roughly the last
maybe act Revenge that director has. Did we see, Yes, yes,
we saw that was one of the trailers. We saw
the substance with Deny Moore and look, yeah I.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Want to Yeah it is her. Yeah, she's like younger,
isn't she supposed to be? Like I don't even do
That trailer.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Was so crazy, I mean, don't like try to figure
out what's going on in the.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Trailer, like I didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, so that director. We watched Revenge, which I had
seen before quite a while ago, a rape revenge film
that gets pretty crazy. Yeah, and really bloody at the end. Yeah, gosh,
how much blood there is in that fancy place.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
It's very stylized.

Speaker 7 (52:07):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
There's a lot of like something happens and there's too
much blood for a normal wound. I don't know what
she like, maybe stabs or cuts someone and they like
splatter on the screen and I'm like, there's not that
much void coming out on a normal person. It was
very stylized, cool looking film.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
The Desert, I felt like because we were watching Mad Max. Yeah,
everything's very desert centric movies.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, quite a bit. Yeah, especially with there was a
few car chase scenes in that movie in the desert,
very dirty, very Mad Max like grime. Yes, esthetic.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
I came in when she was just waking up from
being in the cave and she had the stick or
whatever through her appening.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Oh so that was actually pretty early on that Yeah,
so you caught like almost two thirds of it at least.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah. Oh, that scene was gnarly are pulling it? There was? Yeah,
so gross. I liked that movie. It was done very
well because you know, like, I don't know, rape revenge
movies can be weird.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I feel Oh, I know what I was going to
ask you. I'm totally backtracking here, but is Long Legs
the first rated R movie you've seen in the theater, first.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Rated R and first horror movie I've seen in a theater,
so great combo. That's probably why I was like so
like wigged out when we were watching it.

Speaker 7 (53:34):
So while you looked twelve, they're probably going they're taking
this canon, they're taking.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
This child because that one time where I was like
at least fourteen when I went to the theater and
I got charged as a child.

Speaker 7 (53:44):
Yes, I did not correct them.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I have read stories of people saying I'm in here
watching Long Legs and this person brought their six year old.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
So yeah, like people, hey, that's how you try.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I think we're okay with bringing our almost seventeen year old.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
That's crazy. I'm six.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
This is my first a scaredy baby, not for a lot.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Okay, well I'm not going to say that.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Actually, Okay, So I think after this, babe is pretty
much just us.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Okay, I'm so yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
I don't know if you want to sit and listen.
Thanks for being on the show for in get you
better sound equipment for the next time.

Speaker 7 (54:29):
I want to fancy microphone yours.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
That I mean, a headset works just fine. Going back
all the way back to the beginning of April, we
watched that Mute Witness. I don't even know if you
remember what that was about.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Oh yeah, I really liked that movie. That was also
another like I wasn't expecting some humor in that movie,
but there was that. I'm trying to it has been
a while since we actually yeah one that one scene
where I think they're in the house and they like,
I can't remember, Like I remember it being funny, but
I can't remember what happened. That's a really good movie though.

(55:01):
That's interesting, interesting concept.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Interesting concept. It reminded me of a movie that I
really like called Blowout, which we need to watch at
some point because it's one of my favorites. That meta
before meta became like meta and everything yeah after Scream,
basically everything's meta that it has that idea of like, oh, well,
what's real and what's not? And mariana movie set and

(55:26):
she knows these tricks about movies because she's the what.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Was she the makeup artist?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah, the makeup artist. Yeah, the ideas of snuff films
and all that kind of creepy stuff. So it was
really interesting to see. I had I remember the poster
for it from back when I was like a teenager,
but had never seen it.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
It was cool. I think you just randomly were like
you sent me the IMDb page and you were just like, hey,
you want to watch this?

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, it had popped up on shutter and I was like,
it's something that I had tried to look for in
the past. And so since you're home for a vacation,
I'm gonna ask if you want to watch something or
else I will watch it by myself. Yeah, give you
the opportunity to watch or not. And then we watched
The Dracula on a Boat movie.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
That was fun.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, it was pretty good. I don't remember a whole
bunch about it, so that kind of you to think
that it wasn't that great. It wasn't bad yet.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I don't know if you asked me to, like, actually,
this is kind of hard. But if you were like,
what Dracula movie would you rather watch or vampire movie,
I'd probably say one. I'd probably say Lost Boys, but
I probably see Brad Choker's Dracula, not Voyage of the Demeter.
But it still was a really good movie. Like otherwise,
like it was good.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, it was good. It was fine. Movies can be fine.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, they don't have to be amazing or even good
or bad.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
And then we watched wait was that the day.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
That Jenks ran outside. I don't know clue that was
so bad.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Watched Katherine Newton? Yeah, two, we watched how many of
these movies was she in? Three? Did we watch three
Katherine Newton movies?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah? Abigail she was an Abigail too. I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Yeah, So we watched Freaky.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I loved Freaky. We have to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Lisa Frankenstein. Was she in that one?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Lisa Fi Yeah, okay, she has ginger hair in that though.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
And Abigail Gail, Yes, so wherever you want to start, okay,
And I just realized right now that she was in
all three, all.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Three of them. Yeah. I really liked Freaky good because
we had brought it up a few times, or you
had brought it up a few times.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I suggest these things all the time and just wait
for you to be.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Like, well, I was kind of I don't know. We've
watched a lot of bad body swap movies.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
So which ones have been bad? Well, the ones I
did on Chris's show, but like, I don't count those.
Those were all awful.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I feel like body swap movies can be just like well, okay,
the title of the movie is a plan Freaky Friday, right,
and then it's Friday the thirteenth when it HAPs.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, everybody knows that. Yeah, you're not saying anything. Anybody
doesn't know, clar I know that.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
I don't know. I was kind of just like on it,
But then we watched it, and I really liked it
because Vince Vaughan is also so Vince Vonn is a
teenage girl on every movie. Now we need him like that.
He was so good as I don't. It's just really
and I liked all the like references to older movies.
There's quite a few different things. I mean, forre you Freddie,

(58:25):
but I don't know. It was just very It was
a fun like Slasher, I guess, just to watch a
lot of jokes, really funny jokes, especially with the scene
where it's her like boyfriend crush or whatever and he's like,
I want to kiss you and she's still in Vince
Vaughn's body and then they actually kiss. I was insane.
That was so I really liked it, though I definitely

(58:47):
rewatched that like ten more times.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Okay, noted, Yay, we have to.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Have Mom watch that with us. I feel she would
like it. And then Lisa Frankenstein was really good. When
it came out, a lot of people were like, it's
like the weird, woke Frankenstein cringe fest, and I was like,
are we saying that because the woman director? And then
of course we watched it. I was like, this is
not you guys are boring. This is a fun movie.

(59:15):
I liked it. It was cute, like fun concept. And
I haven't seen Cole Sprouts in a lot of things,
which sounds weird because I'm like a Disney I grew
up on Disney or whatever. I didn't watch any of
his shows Sweet Life on Beck, I didn't watch any
of that. It was cool watching him in that because
I like, I know who he is, but I've never
seen him in anything other than that. It was a

(59:36):
cool concept though. I liked it very cury eating.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
It was actually a lot better than I expected. I
had heard good things, but I was like, I don't
know if it's for me, but I quite enjoyed it. Yeah,
Catherine Newton again, she's really good. That leads us to
the last one with her, and the last one I
think that we'll be talking about is Abigail. Yeah, she's
not the lead like.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
She is in no, but she's also pretty good in
that movie. That movie was kind of a wild ride that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Was fun too. That had gotten some good Lord of
Mouth or even good notice, and I was like, okay,
you know, I'll watch them when it's streams somewhere.

Speaker 6 (01:00:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Yeah, so we watched it was available on VOD and
there you go. It was good worth it. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
It was a fun movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
I like all those people in it. Yeah, for Melissa
Brera Dan Stevens. That's a micam in a row movie.
And you see as the guest with her and Dan Stevens.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
The little girl who's who was in the Matilda musical.
Oh movie, she was really good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I think those are like, well, I mean she's like
a probably a I don't know if she's a Broadway kid,
but she's definitely like a theater kid, right. I think
Matilda in this movie are like the only few movies
that she's been in which is really funny. Like, oh,
I was in Matilda the Musical, and then also my
Abigail Ballet Murder vampire Yeah, vampire murder movie. She's very

(01:00:58):
good in it, a very different care character. It was
a fun watch.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yeah, those all three were a little more on the
comedic side. Abigail is a horror comedy, but there are
definitely humorous touches throughout that film. Disgusting scene, the pool
full of corpses, so you get.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
To go to come across gross pools of things like
in Phenomena, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
The Phenomena, Yeah, Reaper's Phenomena, Jennifer in Ben Yeah. Backtracking
to Long Legs again, that brings up something else that
it's not very gory. I had heard it was really gory,
Like I read that a few times, and most of
the kills are off screen. There's one corpse that they
show that's pretty gross, but black Coat's Daughter is much gorrier.

(01:01:51):
Long Legs, other than the interrogation room scene, which I
know we're sort of about back out of spoilers, so
I want to say anything out that other than that
at least pretty tame actually, as far as score.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Which I'm fine with, I know not a lot a
lot of people are like I like thrillers or psychological
or whatever, but I like stuff like that, So Long's
being kind of the type of movie that it is
fine with me. I felt if there was core and
it would kind of take away from like everything.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yes, it was of the scenes I'm thinking of where
they're showing, you know, these families. If it was full
on it, it would be a little too much.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Yeah, because like she has the crime scene photos. That's like, right,
that gets the point across of like what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
So anyway back to Abigail, yeah, or back to whatever,
anything else that we've watched that I've missed on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
I mean we could talk about the other os Perkins stuff.
That just means that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Yeah, we watched so.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
We've seen Black Coats Daughter. I don't know if we
talked about that, but we watched that Twilet Zone episode.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Oh yeah, we watched his Twins.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Pretty fun.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
You and I have watched everything he's directed at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeah, I believe I didn't really.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Have much interest in watching the Twilight Zone series because
it did not get good critic or audience reviews.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I get that it's hard to beat og Twilet Zone.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
But yeah, that was a pretty interesting episode, very different
story from his other stuff. And he wrote that there
was an obvious nod to a classic Twilight Zone episode
and it was just kind of weird stylight, you know,
very framing, static camera with framing and composition and a
small cast, except when the aliens show up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
That he's also one of the aliens. I couldn't even.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yeah, I know, I don't even. I wish I had
known beforehand so I could have seen which.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
One it was. I have no idea. I couldn't tell.
It was cool. Though I've seen a select few of
like original Twilight Zone episodes, I've never seen any of
the it's a reboot basically, right, It's not like it's
just a reboot. I didn't know anything about episode. I
didn't know what was going on. It was a very
weird concept. It was almost black Mirrory mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
I didn't know what was going on. Like they're keep
talking about an egg, but then there's something else going on, and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
She keeps waking up in her bed and hearing music.
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Yeah, and she didn't have an egg at that point,
so it's like, well, what's this other word stuff that's
going on that doesn't seem to have to do with
the egg.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Egg.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
She's in workout clothes every day.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Everybody was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, the weird music that sounded kind of like the
original Twilight Zone music. I think like it was very
similar to that. It was interesting, like it was a
cool episode to watch. I enjoyed the concept. Yeah, I
did too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Since we have seen all of his stuff. What's your
hierarchy of Oz Perkins directed, say films, because he's done
on TV episode.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yeah, i'd still say. I think Long Legs is still
like my favorite favorite, and then Black Coat's Daughter is
probably next in that lineup. M I don't really know.
I'd liked all the other ones I watch, but I
don't know where I would like place them, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
You'll figure it out real quick. Go on, Well that's
all there are five, So okay, Long Legs, Black Coats
Daughter daughter, number three, Pretty Thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Anything, Gretel and Hansel, and then twice on.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Mine would be almost the same. You'd switch long Legs,
I'd switch Long Legs and Black Coats Daughter. Yeah, although no,
let me just go through mind. So Black Coats Daughter
is number one, Long Legs is too. I think Gretel
and Hansel and Pretty Thing are probably tied for third.
And then, just because it's a TV show with not

(01:05:44):
a whole lot going on, the Twilight Zone episode would
be last, just because it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
A TV show.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Yeah, the Black Coat's Daughter will be and will be
number one until something knocks it off. I don't think
i'll switch. Maybe I will. Maybe I didn't like Black
Coats Daughter the first time I watched it, so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah, if we rewatch Long Legs whenever it's like out
for streaming.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Yeah we will. And for sure, I've watched Pretty Thang
three times now, and I've enjoyed it more each time
that happened with Black Coats, so I do not enjoy
it as nearly as much as Black Coat's Daughter. But
every time I watch Black Coat's Daughter, I liked it
exponentially more than the last time I could see that
happening with Long Legs because there's much more going on

(01:06:27):
in that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Yeah, and there's more to discover. I think about that
movie too.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
All right, anything else?

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Did we watch anything else? I don't think we did.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
All right, Well, thank you for joining me, and I
don't know. Maybe maybe we'll squeeze in something else before
you go back to school, but who knows. I thought
we'd have quite a few more done during the summer,
since you have anything else to do, and this is
the only one we've done since April we'll see no

(01:06:57):
promises people. Yeah, what should people track down for their viewing?
Definitely Long Legs and it's Neon, so it'll be on Hulu.
That's where their movies end up streaming. Doesn't look like
they're pushing for one of those quick theater than VOD
releases like a lot of I mean even Furioso was

(01:07:18):
out on VOD two weeks after it played in theaters.
So I think they're being smart with Long Legs. And yeah,
it's the vibe, it's got long legs. They're letting it
play in the theaters. For get that cash.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Oz, come on, make another one, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Anything else people should track down.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
I'd say definitely watch First Omens so you can see
the scene that we're talking about. Yeah, you have not already.
And if you're curious, they.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Went there, yep, oh my god. Yeah. And plus it's good.
I think I don't know if I ever mentioned which
one I preferred, but I leaned a little harder towards
the First Omen than Immaculate. I think I enjoyed that
one a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yeah, I think that's probably what i'd say, but I
don't know. Imaculate it's really good too.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Yeah, catch those they are definitely they were hyped up,
but I think they.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Think needed a little more because.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
They lived up to the hype. Yeah, and uh, all right,
we will see you when we see you next, I
don't know when that'll be, but you know, wake Up
Heavy is just kind of sporadic right now. You can
catch my other monthly shows though, camer Jeon Wa Shan
and the Chasing Chevy Chase podcast over on wording Way Media.

(01:08:40):
Those do come out on a regular basis. And then
just keep your eyes and ears peeled for the next
episode of Wake Up Heavy. Thanks for joining me. Kleail Hey.

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