April 28, 2025 • 51 mins
Cleo and I watched a handful of good movies during her Spring Break and then we talked about them. With particular attention paid to Strange Darling with Kyle Gallner and Willa Fitzgerald and The Monkey by our boy Oz Perkins based on a short story by Stephen King.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Wake Up Heavy is a weirding Way media podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to Wake Up Heavy, the world's greatest horror movie podcast.
On this episode, my weird dad and I will be
talking about.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hello and welcome to Wake Up Heavy. This is Mark Begley,
your host, and I've got a well, not so quick
little episode with my daughter Cleo coming up. I just
wanted to start off with a little bit of an
update on my progress. This should be quick because not
much has changed since last time. Things are getting better.
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I am just about walking normally. Still have a little
bit of a limp, and it depends on if I've
been sitting for a long time or just getting out
of my car. My gait is just about normal and
that is pretty much Sands physical therapy. I do have
a referral, but I am waiting for my wonderful health
(01:23):
Insurance Blue Shield to process my frickin' hospital claim, my
two hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars hospital claim which
they have still yet to process. And of course they
tried to pass it off on me or someone else
by asking if it was work related or because of
a car crash, et cetera. But I am just about
(01:46):
at my out of pocket maximum for the year, and
I'd like to be able to do some other things
that my doctors would like me to do, So get
that claim processed, especially in this day and age, if
you know what I'm saying. I did see my surgeon
earlier this month, and things are going well as far
as healing internally. There's some bone growth, new bone growth
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around where my femur broke and where the pins and
rod is, and that's to be expected or that's what's wanted,
so that's a good thing. Didn't really have any scars
to heal. They were pretty much healed up by the
time I got home. And like I said, just the
limp the gate is progressing every day. I can see
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that within a couple of weeks here it probably won't
even have a limp anymore. Don't care if I do, honestly,
but you know, I know it can sort of mess
you up otherwise. So that's it for me as far
as progress. No walking aids, nothing else going on. If
I get to PT for strength, great, If I don't whatever.
A little correction from I believe last episode may have
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been the one before that I don't really recall, but
I had mentioned that I released five episodes last year
through wake Up, and that is not true. I released four.
One of the episodes was the introductory episode of the
Chasing Chevy Chase podcast, So I'm not really going to
count that. We're at three so far this year, and
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it's only April, so kings, all right. So this is
Cleo and I talking about a handful of movies that
we watched over spring break, a couple more in depth
than the others. And the only thing we left off
and this is my fault, and I did this with
the film Cuckoo when we talked last time, because I
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forgot to add it to my watch list. I've logged
the films on letterboxed and then when I log films,
I create an annual watch list, and if I forget
to put it on the watch list, I usually don't
catch that. So we didn't talk about Stop Making Sense,
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the Tucking Heads concert movie by Jonathan Demi. We watched that,
I believe, on Cleo's request early in the month, and
I'm not going to say anything about it because maybe
we'll get to it the next time we talk, or
I'll try to remember to get to it the next
time we talk. But just to say that every time
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I watch that damn thing, it just makes me want
to listen to nothing but talking heads. It's just such
a fun, energetic, musically wonderful show. Years ago, decades ago,
it opened me up to the rest of their catalog.
I had been a big fan of speaking in tongues
when it came out, and then I realized, oh, they
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have other really good songs. So that's a story for
another time. But yeah, just love, love, love love that movie.
All right, So, without further ado, here is Cleo and
me talking about some movies and enjoy after this quick
message like this start up.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Come on good time. Roll, Come on baby, mater your soul,
come on time, roll, roll, come on baby. Yes, this
is this, this is something.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I just get me all right, I'm back with my
most favoritist co host ever to be on the show, Cleo,
my daughter.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yay, I'm back and we are on spring break right now,
are people. It's the Saturday of spring break, so we're
technically at the end here, although you do get Monday off,
yeah from the high school. We're one college course in
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the morning. You don't need to go to on Monday.
Fun fun, but we did watch a handful of movies
this past week, so why not do an episode on them?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah? Why not?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We haven't really done or watched much since the last
time we talked, although I think because I did the
episode with Chris on Midsummer we didn't talk about that
on our last outing together, correct.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Midsummer.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, I mean we've talked about it before, but we
didn't actually talk about it on the last episode we did. No,
don't believe. As we watched the director's cut, the extended
cut of that. Yeah, both of us for the first time. AnyWho,
some added scenes.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, not a whole lot. Yeah, added to it. Chris
and I got into all that on that episode. You
can listen to that over on the Culture cast on
Weirdingway Media dot com. Plug plug plug. So we watched one, two, three, four,
five movies this past week, two on the same day,
(07:14):
two very different movies on the same day, uh, one
just us, and then that evening we watched a fun
one with your mom mm hmmm, and then we watched
three other movies just you and I. The Did we
watch those all on one day?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Uh oh no, No. Strange Darling. I spoiled one already, Dad,
So on what day was that that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
We watched to look at our letterbox?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, and all of these, no know, these first three
are all fairly new films. And then we watched old
classic and then a more recent classic. But starting off
we watched the Steven Soderberg film Presence.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes, I picked it right, I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, we were kind of scrolling through stuff and that
one came up. I had watched the Red Letter Media
video on it and they seemed to really like it.
I had heard about it when it came out, and
then it sort of disappeared. I think it just started
streaming somewhere, but I could be rocks. Maybe I don't
(08:28):
look it up. People find out where it's streaming to yourself.
Kind of a horror movie, not really, I mean it's
about a quote unquote ghost ghosts.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, or like almost like Poltergeist creatures. Yeah, Like it's
not really. It's definitely a presence.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's a presence, that's for sure, hence the title, and
you are experiencing the film from the presence's perspective. Is fun. Yeah,
It's one of those things that can be off putting
in me. That attempt to do single shot scenes can
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get tiresome sometimes, So basically the only cuts in the
movie are when you change scenes. There are no cuts
within a particular.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Scene, and it's from funky angles because it's writing at people.
It's a first person, it's.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Subject person perspective at a kind of high, higher, taller. Yeah,
that can be a little odd. There's a German movie
or something called Angst that does something similar to that.
To me, that one was off putting. This one. I
got used to it pretty quickly and it didn't really
(09:54):
bother me. But it can be kind of jarring to
have that throughout a movie and not just you know,
a particular choice for one shot or something.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It's the whole movie.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And there are some scenes with like movement where I
was like, little, oh, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, it's basically like steady cam throughout the film. As
a horror movie, though, how would you rate.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It as a horror movie out of like what five
or ten?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Well, I mean, would you consider it that or not?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Really? It's like spooky, but it's not entirely a horror movie.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Because there are scenes like in Poultergeist which it references
specific the dog is parking, specifically with the end credits
being in the Poltergeist font. Oh yeah, but there are
items moving being moved by the presence in the film,
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and it's kind of jinky and almost seems like it's
like stuff on a stream or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But I think that's fun. Though it added a little
like uniqueness to it. I liked it.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
It's more a real life horror story. The idea that
the daughter this family moves into a house discovered that
there is something there with them. The daughter of this
family just lost one of her friends to an apparent
drug overdose, and so that's sort of the main focus
(11:28):
is how she's dealing with that, this presence in the house,
how it's connected to that. Yeah, and the family dynamics
and all that interesting, not particularly scary, but it was
real life horrors.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I guess with a little supernatural.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, there's a supernatural bent. They have a medium come
so there's almost a quote unquote seance scene, but not really.
And yeah, the guys on Red Letter Media said that
the lad we won't spoil the last shot here, but
they said that the last scene or the last shot
gave them goosebumps. And I just couldn't figure it out
(12:07):
what they were talking about. Yeah, involves this like antique
mirror in the house. And I was like, oh, I,
you know, to each their own as far as scares go.
But I don't know, or maybe it was her reaction
Lucy Lewis in the movie and maybe it was her
reaction to that.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It was enjoyable,
it was. It was a pretty good movie, like it was.
I liked it, but it wasn't like scary.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I think the only thing you've seen by him is
that film Kimmy we watch.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Oh yeah The Alexa, Yeah, with Zoey Habits.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
He is interesting. He does big budget movies. He does
these really super low budget things shot on iPhones whatever. Yeah,
and made it on the scene with a movie years
ago with James Spader and Andy McDowell. Margaret Qualley's mom
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put all of them, well not James Spader maybe, but
put all of them on the map. It's called Sex,
Salize and Videotape and it took over Sundance that year
or whatever. It was one of the really big indie
films that sort of started that whole craze in the
early nineties and stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, so he's an interesting dude.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
M Yeah, it was an interesting movie. It was different
from what like what we were reading. It's not what
I expected, because I know you told me. You were like,
it's from the perspective of the thing in the house,
and I was like, okay, and then it was much
more like what you were saying, like real life horrors
and just stuff like that. It's not what I expected,
but it was. It was good. It wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Kind of low key, yeah, personal family stuff. Very different.
And I'm saying that because it was very different from
the movie we watched that night, which we'll get to
later because I think we want to focus kind of
on that and one of the other films that we watched,
very different than our boy, Osgood Perkins's latest film. He's
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had two films in less than a year. We talked
about Long Legs a while ago, and all of his
other movies, you and I did at least, so we
all watched together as a family. The Monkey, based on
Stephen King short story from Skeleton Crew, a completely different
(14:30):
tone vibe. Definitely a horror movie. Yeah, totally gory. So
we'll get back to that though. Yeah, and maybe we'll
even get back to the next one too, because a
couple of days later, I was like, I'm watching this
because I've been wanting to see it for a while,
a movie called Strange Darling with Kyle Gallner and Willa Fitzgerald.
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And I think I mentioned to you the opening scene
I had caught, like I think two years years ago,
which makes sense because they've.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Got the Didn't it come out in twenty twenty three?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
No, it did not come out in twenty twenty three.
It came out last year, but the date on the
film is twenty twenty three, and so I don't know
what held it up. Yeah, I saw that clip a
good year and a half ago and thought, oh, he's
in another horror movie, because he was starting to be
in a string of I mean, he's always done horror,
but he was in that the latest Scream or whatever,
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and he was in Smile and a bunch of other
stuff all at the same time. Yeah, and so I
was like, oh, well, that dude's in another one. And
then I don't even know if we had seen Followed
the House of Usher yet, which Willa Fitzgerald was in
and I thought she was one of the best parts
of that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, she's good.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
And Ed Bagley Junior, my boy, was in that or
I had found out that he was in it, so
I was looking forward to it. And then it came
out and did really well, especially critically, and I thought, Okay,
I'm watching this when it comes out, and it's been
out for a little while, and I wasn't going to
wait any longer, and you were home, so you watched
(16:05):
it with me. So we'll talk about that and the
monkey in a bit. But because of strange Darling, they're
opening crawl I told you, Oh, they're riffing on the
Texas chainsaw massacre here where they've got an opening crawl
and they've got a narrator explaining these horrific crimes that
happen in this area and it's a direct nod to
(16:27):
Texas chain saw Massacre. We the next day watched that.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, the events of that day wore to lead to
the discovery of one of the most bizarre crimes in
the annals of American history, the Texas chainsaw Massacre, which
I had never seen. And you were like, I didn't
watch this until I was like twenty.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Years and I've talked about this on my show. That
was one that spooked me. It just seemed like too too,
too much, too real too oh yeah, and I know
it's quote unquote based on true stuff you ed green
or ed guying and things so inspire the story, and
(17:08):
it just always seemed like too real and so much
as how it was shot and very low budget and grimy,
and it's gross. It's gnarly dirty and sweaty and you
can almost smell the film, you know, just all the
carcasses and everything else. So it just never so much
dead stuff this yeah, it is that actually and it
(17:30):
so it took me a long time to watch it.
But what did you think?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It was good? It was very interesting gross, It was
gross a lot of them. Yeah, it was just that's
like my main thing. It was like, it was you
a lot of the dead bodies, dead animal stuff. They're
fun creations. Specifically that armchair mm hmm. I didn't enjoy
that or the light with the faces on it. That
(17:57):
hurts my heart because that's literally like an ed geen
thing too. Oh yeah, here's my lamp that's made of flesh.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Ah yep, which he actually did. Yes, it's still pretty.
It's gross intense again, not particularly scary in a jump
scare kind of way. Yeah, just more shocking and gross
and disturbing. And that family is disturbing, and you know
(18:25):
that there are families out there, like yeah, it digs
into under your skin. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah. The fact that like you can definitely see this
actually happening, and that there are people like that. As
we've mentioned ed Dean with his fun behavior. It's gross, yeah,
but I liked it. It was a fun watch.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
The two thousand and whatever, two thousand and three remake
is not that bad. Actually, I kind of liked it.
There's been sequels and reboots, and there's the current thing
that they had on Netflix, which I watched. I don't
know if I did an episode with Chris on that
I feel like we were going to and it maybe
didn't happen. No, maybe we did. I don't know. It's
(19:10):
odd that Blonde Gal, the Final Girl, she comes back
for this reboot or not reboot, but legacy sequel. Yes,
it kind of tried to do the Halloween thing with
her and Jamie Lee Curtis, and it's odd. It's really weird.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Mark is referring to the character of Sally Hardesty, not
Marilyn Burns, the actor who played her.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't like the sequel the original sequels made by
Toby Hooper. I don't care for it because it's very
tongue in cheek and the kind of humor I don't
really like in my horror movies, which is funny because
we're going to talk about a horror comedy in a
little bit here. The first film is funny as well,
but it's a different kind of humor.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Well, yeah, like Franklin folliged out the hair.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Well that's what I was gonna ask you. Oh, if
you were pro or anti Franklin, because a lot of
horror fans hate Franklin.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Your invalid brother Franklin. I'm like neutral Franklin. He didn't
really bother me that much. But I also don't like
adore him.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I'm pro Franklin. I think he gets a bad rap,
and I understand why he's OK.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
He's still a little turd, but like it's not that bad.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
They constantly leave him, Yeah, they stranded, can't move. I
never found it all that grading, and I was kind
of surprised to find that out decades later on the
Internet and stuff that people generally hate Franklin.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, I don't. He wasn't that bothersome to me, So
I'm like, he was just kind of chillin'. Yeah. And
they also, like you said, like they leave him places
like he has to get into the house by himself
at one point in his wheelchair with no one helping him.
He has to go like a rant. Basically, he didn't
really bother me, but he was funny. There's some fun stuff. Yeah,
(21:02):
he didn't annoy me. I was just like, he wasn't
my favorite character of the entire movie.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
They're not very clearly drawn characters for one thing other
than him.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Really.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't find him annoying. I understand helping
to see that he is obnoxious set points, but I
also kind of feel sorry for the guy.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Oh yeah, but he wanted to hang out with his sister.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
He is the fifth wheel. Oh yeah, no pun intended
of this group. He gets left aside so often. It's
just kind of makes me sad for him. Yeah, and
I can understand being obnoxious due to that reason. Anyway,
i'd get your opinion on Franklin.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
He's pretty chill.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You're fond of me. Lovester and then we watched The
Lighthouse another Robert Egger is still seen.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It was weird.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, it's very weird though. I saw that in the
theater because of the Witch and like in The Witch
so much, and I was like, okay, okay, it's a
bit much.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's a bit much more than No Satu as well,
so claustrophobic. Oh yes, it's so small.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Two people going at each other for a whole movie
can get a little grading after a while, but it
is very I like how it's shot. I like the
square aspect ratio. I like the stark black and white.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Like both of them in it, especially William Dafoe.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
He's a little weirdo. I mean he always is. But
like the farting, the farting, you god, damn fat good.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You're like my lobster, don't you.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Oh that was such a wish. Oh my gosh, the
random like mermaid stuff. The seagulls made me laugh. They
were funny also darkly comic, yeah, very much so.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, and Robert Pattinson is very good at it. And yeah,
you know, I got no issue with that guy at all.
I think he's it's good kind of like Daniel Radcliffe.
A lot of people say, you know, they got these big
paychecks for these large eyeps and then they just started doing.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Whatever the stuff after that, both of the weird stuff. Yep.
Even I feel like Elijah Wood is also kind of
in there.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah, same, get all this cash franchise boys getting
these paychecks for Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Twilight
and then going and doing a bunch of weird stuff.
Yeah good them.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah me too, I would do that too.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I liked it. I I don't think I like it
as much as The Witch or No Spratu, but it
was I like Robert Egger's stuff, so I enjoyed it. It
was weird and fun, but definitely not my favorite out
of the three that I've now watched. I still kind
of think that's no Sparratu.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Now that makes sense. I know we talked about this
when we talked about nos Fratu, but the Witch is
still definitely number one.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And yeah, I love the Witch.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Before Nospratu, it was in succession which Lighthouse Northmen, et cetera.
But yeah, et cetera, et cetera. You know, wat's that again?
Speaking of the Lord, Anya Taylor Joy and yeah, et cetera. Okay, well,
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so what more about Strange Darlin can we talk about?
Because that was I think of this week and the
movies that we watched, that and The Monkey were my favorites.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, I think that's also me. I really liked Strange Darling.
I love the way it looked. I love nonlinear stuff,
which I think you knew that.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, I love Yeah, I knew. I had heard that.
It was in chapters that are out of order, and
you get bits and pieces of the quote unquote twist throughout,
and we won't spoil it here, but it's not too
hard to figure out what's going on at a certain point,
kind of like Companion, it's yeah, yeah, she's a Roebit
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and that things are going south. I'm grateful that they
at least told you what chapter yes on so that
I didn't get too confused.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I actually really liked that because sometimes yeah, nonlinear, like, okay,
I adore Hillhouse, but Hillhouse does not make a great
this is this day that it happens, which like, that's
kind of the thing in Hillhouse. It's very disorienting. But
that's non linear too, But this one tells you this
is chapter three. Chapter three five, I think was the
(26:02):
next one. I liked that, and I also like stylistically,
I liked that there.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Jumped to chapter one. Next chapter one came pretty quick. Yeah,
you're still in the dark about what's exactly going on.
And then, like I said, Ed Begley Junior shows up
and I just forgot her name.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh the lady from Insidious.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, oh gosh, durn it, I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Are we both looking right now?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Barbara Hershey, who's in the entity a really creepy poltergeist
slashcows story and all kinds of other stuff, But happy
to see them. They play a hippie dippy couple. Yeah.
Their breakfast is amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Our reactions so that was so funny, just being like, oh, oh,
they're still making more.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
He makes fried eggs in two sticks of butter and
fries pancakes in the grease from the sausages that he's
been cooking. They pile on like blueberry pie, filling onto
their pancakest.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
My stomach hurt.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
It's a bit much. It is a lot, and they're
just they're happy, happy, and in love and living out
in the wilderness.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They have matching braids.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, chasing off Sasquatch and these people interrupt their lives
and us men well for them, and it's pretty sad. Actually,
that was a very not to spoil it again, but
it was upsetting. It was upsetting the way they shot that.
I was, this is not cool at all.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It was a pretty like cruel kind of mean thing.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah. Yeah. I also liked the nonlinear storytelling. I thought, okay, gimmicky,
but no, it worked in this with the twist that
they employ. And I liked both of them, Kyle Gallaner
and will I Fitzgure a lot in this.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
She's good, She's crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
She's very good. You're confused for a while about both
of them because they're kind of playing roles with each other,
role playing, and then it's confusing as an audience members
to win what's going on? What is their true character?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What character? Very interesting. I liked it. I really liked it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And like you said, the look of it. And I
mentioned to you who shot the film. The cinematographer is
Giovanni Ribisi, which is still I'm not sure what the
deal is with that, if that's like his new thing
or what I knew. The only way to describe who
that was to you should make a friend's reference. I'm like,
(28:52):
it's Phoebe's brother and on friends and you're like, oh
that little guy.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Baby, I know. I was like, are you talking about it?
Then he said that. I was like, oh that guy, hey,
it makes sense. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, so I don't see the connection there. I don't
know if he's done any other cinematography for films or
short films or you expect actors to get into directing,
but it's like CT cinematography. I don't know. It's just
a weird.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But I've really i've really liked it in this movie.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So yeah, and as they proudly announced at the beginning,
shot completely on thirty.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Five milimeter film, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
You can definitely tell there is a genuine grain.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
To a genus. Yeah, the grain.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
And the color palette is all like almost just all
primary color.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, it's very primary, a lot of red, lots of red.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
From what I understand, that was deliberate, like make everything primary. Yeah,
don't use the what are the what are the non
primary colors called secondary? You know?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Like yeah, oh yeah, tels like fusia and orange.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Right, so red, yellow, blue, and it works. It's very
striking to look out.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And also there are times where I was like, this
is modern. Right. The very beginning scene is her in
that old car, but then it also cuts to him
and he's in a very like modern truck and I'm like, rights.
And then one of the scenes, it's when she leaves
the motel and she goes into the I don't know
what business or whatever that is, but the girl with
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the red scrubs is in there.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It's the lobby of the hotel. I believe, Oh okay hotel.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's very like seventies looking, and even the main lady there,
they're like receptionist or whatever, very seventies looking. But then
the other girl pulls out a cell phone and I'm like, right, what?
But I love that because they do that, and it
follows too, and I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I think more deliberately and it follows maybe yeah, because
you're not really supposed to understand the year, the season
or whatever for that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, I love it. I love it. Stuff is like
that where it's like when does this take place? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
And part of that, I think is where it's taking place,
because yeah, backwoods Oregon can be kind of out of time. Yeah,
you know in that motel. There are motels like that
that are very very stuck in their era time that
they were built.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Right. Yeah. I liked it visually very good, and I
liked the story was interesting. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, twisty twists, it's good. I was surprised by the end. Actually,
I again not to spoil it, but I thought they
were going to get away.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So did I.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
They kind of don't not really met their match finally,
and with the lady in the.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Truck, Yeah, the cool native lady. Ye, she looked familiar.
I need to look real stuff. Yeah, I don't know.
I might just be being like.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Hmmm, well, I know that the cop, the male cop,
he was on breaking bad. I believe.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I think the female cop looked familiar to me too,
and she's probably on something. I don't know. I need
to go and check.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Usually look all that stuff up when we're watching movies,
try them not too so much these days, trapped in
this like where are they from? Where are they from?
Who's that I know that face? Like when we're watching
the Pit or whatever, that's something else we've been watching.
Like everybody else that I follow on Twitter, at least
everybody fell in love with the pit. Great show, Noah Wiley.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It was really good. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Fiona Dorif all kinds of great people. Great proceipe not procedural.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, I've seen some medical procedural.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Well yeah, sure, that's what I've seen. People call it
one day, fifteen hour period and one day in a
Pittsburgh hospital.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
It was good. I really liked it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, it was very good. Looking forward to the next season.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, they're already on it, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, they are exciting.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Well Saturday night and not just that paid money.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Don't try to say Mahon, say go go how time tonight?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Okay? Well, my favorite film of this past week was
definitely The Monkey, and I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure
because I was excited about it when I first heard
about it, which was not long after Long Legs came out.
It's like, oh, he's already working on a movie.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I know, I think Will.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Was it Will?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Or was it you that showed me something about it?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
And I was like, what already Yeah, already working on
a movie based on a Stephen King short story which
I knew I had read years ago. The first trailer
I saw, I was like, oh, oh, this is gonna
be cuckoo bananas, and I was kind to hear for it. Again, admittedly,
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horror comedy is not my fave. I can count on
one hand the ones I like. Tucker and Gale is evil,
evil dead too, But again, they lose their steam for
me when they play it tongue in cheek and this
definitely is tongue firmly in cheek.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Oh yeah. It was so not confident, but like it
was just so there with all of the weird stuff
that it did, where I was like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, it was kind of gleeful about it.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, which I appreciated, very proud of what it was
to me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So I said to you at some point, are you
and your mom at some point in the movie, this
is very different than the short.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Story it's based on, And I asked you, I was like,
in a good or a bad way?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, I mean, it's just completely different because there may
be touches of humor in the story, like there are
in a lot of his stories. Oh more black comedy,
you know, the humor of a situation that's horrible that
you kind of can't help but chuckle at, But this
is played for absurdity. The story is not the shallow
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differences are you know, it's not twins in the story
that grow up. It's brothers that are considerably different in age.
And the main brother is married and has kids, and
they're back at the aunt's house. Like the aunt finally dies,
who took care of them? She finally dies. The one brother,
(35:35):
the younger brother in the story, goes back to the
house with his family to clean it up, discovers the monkey,
and then proceeds to have flashbacks to all these horrible
events that happen. Yeah, then gets rid of the monkey
at the end of story. So this is quite different
than that. And the kids are twins for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, I think it's fun.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It starts with them as kids and then we slowly
progress to current day.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
And yeah, can we spoil this one? Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I mean it's kind of brand new. Okay, Oh, what
are you thinking of spoiling The deaths? They're so well
I don't really consider that spoiling oilery.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
The first one is so gnarly.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
The deaths are insane in this and ridiculous. A couple
of people explode in ways that no one would ever explode.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You don't explode the pool one.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, the pool scene is ridiculous but hysterical.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
The very first one, though, is like, oh, what's.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
The very first one?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
The harpoon going through the guy and then oh coming
back out and pulling his intestines out.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
What Adam Scott is in an early scene, he is
apparently these twins' dad dad. Yeah, which again is very
different from the story. I believe he just kind of
disappears quote unquote in the story, something awful has become
of him because of this toy monkey, which is gigantic
(37:07):
in the movie.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah. I was also going to say, can we talk
about the monkey because it's huge and weird. I mean, okay,
the simple monkeys that it's based off of all have
always been terrifying. Yes, I was talking about when we
started it, I was like, oh, the like Toy Story
three trauma, because that has the simple monkey in it, terrifying.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
He's a villain in that.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yes, it's very evil. It's scary for little children.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
According to the trivia. That's why it's in Toy Story
three because of this short story the monkey, which I
don't know how true that is, because those are horrifying,
that's true toys, but they're generally like they're small though, yeah,
and inches tall. This thing is like two feet tall.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Huge. So and when they wind it, it does that smile,
It opens its mouth and smiles or whatever. It's just like, oh,
it's so weird.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Which I believe the actual toys do.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I don't like that. I don't enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's frightening, mouths that open, and of course symbols, which
Disney owns now because of the toy story three things.
So this one plays a drum instead, yeah, which they
used to good effect with the spinning the stick. And
the whole point is that in a story or in
the movie, when the monkey crashes its symbols or bangs
(38:26):
its drum, somebody dies some horrible way, just because because
it's an evil toy monkey.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
There's no monkey lore. It just kills people.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, And I don't remember if there's monkey lore in
the story, because you know, a lot of the short
stories they don't get into that stuff. But I can't
remember if there is some kind of vague explanation as
to how it got this way. But yeah, there's nothing
in the movie at.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
All about that, which is it's fun like that.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, Adam Scott tries to get rid of it at
a pawnshop that goes horribly wrong, takes healthy owner shop,
and then presumably Adam Scott disappears or dies after trying
to burn it with a flamethrower, and then we go
from there through the kid's life. Every time this monkey
bangs it's drum, somebody dies. They get the idea, well,
(39:17):
maybe I could make somebody die on purpose if I
wind it up and have it bang it's drum. And
that goes wrong, and yeah, that's what divides them. And
when they're grown up, they don't really speak to each other. Oh,
the reason I totally went on a tangent, but the
reason I was concerned about it. I was really excited
when I first heard about it. Oh yeah trailer, And
(39:39):
then before we watched it, I had read all of
the reviews, Oh don't do that, more like audience reviews,
and they were all two or less stars and this
doesn't make any sense and it just doesn't go anywhere,
and blah blah blah, And I'm like, oh, oh, but
I enjoyed the heck out of it. Fun what totally
(40:02):
different from his other films.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, I was going to talk about that, like the
other ones that we've watched because we were talking about
how funny and like weird this one is, and I
was thinking about long Legs, and I was like, long
Legs was not very There was definitely comedy and long legs,
but it was not the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And it's weird.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
M m.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
But yeah, different black Coat's daughter and I am the
pretty thing whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
That title is blown in this house.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
It's not really played for laughs. I mean there's funny
stuff in his movies, yeah, but nothing as like this
in your face is this? Yeah, which I think is fun.
He's taking a little left hand turn here.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
M hmm. Well, because also he's in it, and he
gives himself such a weird.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Fifth he's in it, which I was glad.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I know he's fine.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Our boy from Legally Blonde needs to be in stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Right your acting credits, bro, Your daughter has more than
you know.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, speaking of his daughter, I really liked that. Just
made me think of that shot when he walks into
the bathroom at school, the twin that's kind of the
main twin of the story that puts a little bit
of news er sorry, yeah, I mean he's just more
not really Yeah, And that shot of the girls the
(41:17):
mean girls in the bathroom, just like compose almost made
me think of Wes Anderson's stuff for a second there.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
It was very.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Very stylized, and I'm like, oh, we're definitely floating in
different waters in this film for him. Yeah, ignore the
audience reviews because people don't know what they're talking about.
It's a lot of fun. It's interesting. He purposefully wanted
to make Oscar Perkins wanted to make this humorous because
(41:50):
the first draft that he had read of the script
was like dead serious, like the story dark. Yeah, and
he's like, I mean, it's a toy monkey. There's got to.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Be I was literally I go to say, like, it's
a toy monkey that's just killing people for fun. Right,
you kind of have to give it so it.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Should be kind of ridiculous. Yeah, with his history, I
don't know how much you know about his parents. Yes,
oh you know his dad is Anthony Perkins, Yes, I do.
And he died of AIDS. He was a closeted gay man.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I knew that.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, you know, he had that environment growing up where
it was this weird also closeted family secret but not
a secret. And yeah, their mom who was kind of
an actress, but I think more known for photography. Her
sister was an actress, and you know, I don't know
how that dynamic kind of worked out with the family
(42:47):
of I'm married to this man, but he's, yeah, a
closeted gay man, and I think it was more pushing
under the table, like they didn't really talk about it,
and because it was still you know, in the early seventies.
And and then of course he died in the eighties
of complications due to age. And then his mom, their
(43:07):
mom was in the first plane that crashed into the
World Trade Center.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Okay, I was like, there's something yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, So I mean, rough a horrific day for America.
But when you it sucks, wind it down to individuals.
I mean, these two kids lost their mother. That's the
individual horror for him in this grand horrific event. They
(43:37):
lost their mom and they had already lost their dad.
I mean, they were adults by them, still more close
to being adults. I think he's a little bit older
than Yeah, I mean, of course, yeah, like it's still bad,
but they weren't. Like it's not like in the story
where the kids have to now go live with their uncle,
but there is definitely that part of the story here
(43:59):
with them. Yeah, as far as you know, a personal
connection to a weird Stephen King story. They lost both
their parents and so he has some connection with that
and decided the way his mom died probably not so
much the way his dad died, but the way his
mom died was sort of an absurd thing.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, right, that's how very like that doesn't happen a lot.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
So well hope yeah, yeah, hopefully not.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
But like it's a very like one time thing hopefully.
So it's just like really bad.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
You go through that whole thing of why my mom,
and I'm like, well, why not your mom? I mean
why all these other people that were on the planes,
that were in the building, et cetera. You can extrapolate
out to I mean, all death is not only absurd
but also completely normal. Yeah, I mean everybody's going to die.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Hey, that's what his mom talks about.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
That's what his mom says to him exactly. I'll try
to insert the quote here because it's perfect. It's either
in your sleep or some retal ridiculous way. Yeah, and
they go for ridiculous in this.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, everybody dies.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
And that's life. I'll die and you will both die,
and all of your friends and their parents and all
of their pets.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
And everybody, some of us peacefully in our sleep, and
some of us horribly violently died up with clothesline screaming
through duct tape over our mouths and all that jazz.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
And help with it.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Oh, come on, let's go dancing, like adding a humor
to the ridiculousness of it.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
And what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
What can you does?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, it was a fun movie that I really liked it.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
And it was as far as the humor goes their
mom I'm thinking of in particular.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, that's who I was.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
She's her line delivery was great at Oddball. Yeah, she
was a goofball And it was really fun though that
part of it reminded me of Tucker and Dale versus Evil,
where the dialogue and stuff was so crisp and right,
yeah and funny, like the priest.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I was gonna say, the priest being like.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Bros presiding over the babysitters funeral.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
And then.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
It worked for me and I could see though not
working for you know, these people that didn't care for it.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, but also like people need to like bring back
like actually having humor and stuff because like you're no fun,
You're no fun. People who are like it wasn't serious enough.
It needs to be less funny, like bro let it
be silly again. Like we said, this is a movie
about a killer toy monkey that kills people when it
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bangs its drums. You wanted it to be serious.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
To me, that would be a tighter line to walk,
to make it not ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, because I think it's inherently ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, and not have people laughing at it because it's
dumb or mak Yeah, that'd be hard to pull off.
I think that's a good call to say this needs
to be ridiculous because it literally is. I guess in
the right hands, and even in his hands, it could
be pulled off.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, because he can do darks that like Black Coat's
Daughter is a pretty serious movie.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, and dark, very dark.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, it's very dark.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
And some of the shots of the monkey in this
are genuinely frightening.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah. Look, he's a little freak.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
He could pull it off. Somebody else could pull it off,
but too. I also think that, yeah, inherently having a
toy be the harbinger of death is inherently goofy.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Yeah, it's Goofy's silly. Of course, there's like creepy dolls
in stuff, but I thinks are also inherently more creepy,
so you can get away with it more being more serious.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
But a monkey, it could be done, I'm sure. But
oh yeah, I think so. It was r the right
call for this.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, and also we enjoyed it, so you know, the
most important thing.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, I'm definitely rewatchable. I think it was under ninety
minutes that long. Yeah, I believe it was under ninety minutes,
so I like that.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I don't know, but I very much enjoyed it. The
monkey was one hour thirty eight, so literally just.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Over ninety minutes, so yeah, but still moved quickly. Still
pretty short, good supporting cast, like a goofy people. Fun,
totally fun.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's fun. I liked it.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Yeah, he's batten about nine hundred for me.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
I like him. I like his stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I am the pretty thing. Still a little shaky on,
but yeah, I've enjoyed everyone I've seen for multiple reasons.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
I also agree I like him.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, anything else you want to talk about the monkey
or a strange darling or any other monkey kills that.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Let me think if the b one, the wasp one,
that one was gross. That hurt my heart.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
I thought we were going to have another explosion with
the wall.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, I thought he was going to explode, and then
he kind of just like got eaten. It was gross. Yeah,
that swimming pool one is the funniest one, to be ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
The setup for that is sort of ridiculous too, Like,
why is this chick even out there in the middle
of the night, Yeah, jump in this pool. The mechanations
of how this happens, and that's kind of the point,
it's dumb, goes back to what happened to his mom.
It's all ridiculous. Why did this happen? Why did this
happen or hurt?
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Why is this girl out there late at night getting
ready in to swim in this pool where no one
else is really around and that's not safe in the
first place, and then this absolutely ridiculous consruance of events
causes her to explode.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Even his cameo character's death, he got trampled by a
herd of wild horses in his sleeping bag.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah, did the uncle.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
With his one chops?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:17):
So silly, very much so very silly.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Anything else, I think that's it cool. Once again, can
always end these by saying, who knows when we'll be back,
because you don't really have any vacations until summer vacation,
but who knows what will happen. We may watch some
stuff and have some free time to do this again.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Before then, maybe after my grad practices, we can come
home and I watch a movie.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Okay, I don't know when that is so in May.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
The end of May come on now?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Alrighty well, thanks for joining me and all of see
you later somewhere else in the house. I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Bye. Yep, I come out of my cake.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Thanks to Cleo for being on the show. Thanks to
you all for giving us a listen, and don't forget
anything can happen when you wake up heavy.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
Right like this and start off.
Speaker 5 (51:29):
Wow, this has just been such a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
I'm such a lucky boy. I can't wait to go home.
Wake Up Heavy is a weirding Way media podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to Wake Up Heavy, the world's greatest horror movie podcast.
On this episode, my weird dad and I will be
talking about.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hello and welcome to Wake Up Heavy. This is Mark Begley,
your host, and I've got a well, not so quick
little episode with my daughter Cleo coming up. I just
wanted to start off with a little bit of an
update on my progress. This should be quick because not
much has changed since last time. Things are getting better.
(01:00):
I am just about walking normally. Still have a little
bit of a limp, and it depends on if I've
been sitting for a long time or just getting out
of my car. My gait is just about normal and
that is pretty much Sands physical therapy. I do have
a referral, but I am waiting for my wonderful health
(01:23):
Insurance Blue Shield to process my frickin' hospital claim, my
two hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars hospital claim which
they have still yet to process. And of course they
tried to pass it off on me or someone else
by asking if it was work related or because of
a car crash, et cetera. But I am just about
(01:46):
at my out of pocket maximum for the year, and
I'd like to be able to do some other things
that my doctors would like me to do, So get
that claim processed, especially in this day and age, if
you know what I'm saying. I did see my surgeon
earlier this month, and things are going well as far
as healing internally. There's some bone growth, new bone growth
(02:07):
around where my femur broke and where the pins and
rod is, and that's to be expected or that's what's wanted,
so that's a good thing. Didn't really have any scars
to heal. They were pretty much healed up by the
time I got home. And like I said, just the
limp the gate is progressing every day. I can see
(02:30):
that within a couple of weeks here it probably won't
even have a limp anymore. Don't care if I do, honestly,
but you know, I know it can sort of mess
you up otherwise. So that's it for me as far
as progress. No walking aids, nothing else going on. If
I get to PT for strength, great, If I don't whatever.
A little correction from I believe last episode may have
(02:51):
been the one before that I don't really recall, but
I had mentioned that I released five episodes last year
through wake Up, and that is not true. I released four.
One of the episodes was the introductory episode of the
Chasing Chevy Chase podcast, So I'm not really going to
count that. We're at three so far this year, and
(03:14):
it's only April, so kings, all right. So this is
Cleo and I talking about a handful of movies that
we watched over spring break, a couple more in depth
than the others. And the only thing we left off
and this is my fault, and I did this with
the film Cuckoo when we talked last time, because I
(03:34):
forgot to add it to my watch list. I've logged
the films on letterboxed and then when I log films,
I create an annual watch list, and if I forget
to put it on the watch list, I usually don't
catch that. So we didn't talk about Stop Making Sense,
(03:54):
the Tucking Heads concert movie by Jonathan Demi. We watched that,
I believe, on Cleo's request early in the month, and
I'm not going to say anything about it because maybe
we'll get to it the next time we talk, or
I'll try to remember to get to it the next
time we talk. But just to say that every time
(04:16):
I watch that damn thing, it just makes me want
to listen to nothing but talking heads. It's just such
a fun, energetic, musically wonderful show. Years ago, decades ago,
it opened me up to the rest of their catalog.
I had been a big fan of speaking in tongues
when it came out, and then I realized, oh, they
(04:38):
have other really good songs. So that's a story for
another time. But yeah, just love, love, love love that movie.
All right, So, without further ado, here is Cleo and
me talking about some movies and enjoy after this quick
message like this start up.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Come on good time. Roll, Come on baby, mater your soul,
come on time, roll, roll, come on baby. Yes, this
is this, this is something.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I just get me all right, I'm back with my
most favoritist co host ever to be on the show, Cleo,
my daughter.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yay, I'm back and we are on spring break right now,
are people. It's the Saturday of spring break, so we're
technically at the end here, although you do get Monday off,
yeah from the high school. We're one college course in
(06:02):
the morning. You don't need to go to on Monday.
Fun fun, but we did watch a handful of movies
this past week, so why not do an episode on them?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah? Why not?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We haven't really done or watched much since the last
time we talked, although I think because I did the
episode with Chris on Midsummer we didn't talk about that
on our last outing together, correct.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Midsummer.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, I mean we've talked about it before, but we
didn't actually talk about it on the last episode we did. No,
don't believe. As we watched the director's cut, the extended
cut of that. Yeah, both of us for the first time. AnyWho,
some added scenes.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, not a whole lot. Yeah, added to it. Chris
and I got into all that on that episode. You
can listen to that over on the Culture cast on
Weirdingway Media dot com. Plug plug plug. So we watched one, two, three, four,
five movies this past week, two on the same day,
(07:14):
two very different movies on the same day, uh, one
just us, and then that evening we watched a fun
one with your mom mm hmmm, and then we watched
three other movies just you and I. The Did we
watch those all on one day?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:33):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Uh oh no, No. Strange Darling. I spoiled one already, Dad,
So on what day was that that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
We watched to look at our letterbox?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, and all of these, no know, these first three
are all fairly new films. And then we watched old
classic and then a more recent classic. But starting off
we watched the Steven Soderberg film Presence.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes, I picked it right, I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, we were kind of scrolling through stuff and that
one came up. I had watched the Red Letter Media
video on it and they seemed to really like it.
I had heard about it when it came out, and
then it sort of disappeared. I think it just started
streaming somewhere, but I could be rocks. Maybe I don't
(08:28):
look it up. People find out where it's streaming to yourself.
Kind of a horror movie, not really, I mean it's
about a quote unquote ghost ghosts.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, or like almost like Poltergeist creatures. Yeah, Like it's
not really. It's definitely a presence.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's a presence, that's for sure, hence the title, and
you are experiencing the film from the presence's perspective. Is fun. Yeah,
It's one of those things that can be off putting
in me. That attempt to do single shot scenes can
(09:14):
get tiresome sometimes, So basically the only cuts in the
movie are when you change scenes. There are no cuts
within a particular.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Scene, and it's from funky angles because it's writing at people.
It's a first person, it's.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Subject person perspective at a kind of high, higher, taller. Yeah,
that can be a little odd. There's a German movie
or something called Angst that does something similar to that.
To me, that one was off putting. This one. I
got used to it pretty quickly and it didn't really
(09:54):
bother me. But it can be kind of jarring to
have that throughout a movie and not just you know,
a particular choice for one shot or something.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It's the whole movie.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And there are some scenes with like movement where I
was like, little, oh, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, it's basically like steady cam throughout the film. As
a horror movie, though, how would you rate.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It as a horror movie out of like what five
or ten?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Well, I mean, would you consider it that or not?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Really? It's like spooky, but it's not entirely a horror movie.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Because there are scenes like in Poultergeist which it references
specific the dog is parking, specifically with the end credits
being in the Poltergeist font. Oh yeah, but there are
items moving being moved by the presence in the film,
(10:55):
and it's kind of jinky and almost seems like it's
like stuff on a stream or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But I think that's fun. Though it added a little
like uniqueness to it. I liked it.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
It's more a real life horror story. The idea that
the daughter this family moves into a house discovered that
there is something there with them. The daughter of this
family just lost one of her friends to an apparent
drug overdose, and so that's sort of the main focus
(11:28):
is how she's dealing with that, this presence in the house,
how it's connected to that. Yeah, and the family dynamics
and all that interesting, not particularly scary, but it was
real life horrors.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I guess with a little supernatural.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, there's a supernatural bent. They have a medium come
so there's almost a quote unquote seance scene, but not really.
And yeah, the guys on Red Letter Media said that
the lad we won't spoil the last shot here, but
they said that the last scene or the last shot
gave them goosebumps. And I just couldn't figure it out
(12:07):
what they were talking about. Yeah, involves this like antique
mirror in the house. And I was like, oh, I,
you know, to each their own as far as scares go.
But I don't know, or maybe it was her reaction
Lucy Lewis in the movie and maybe it was her
reaction to that.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It was enjoyable,
it was. It was a pretty good movie, like it was.
I liked it, but it wasn't like scary.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I think the only thing you've seen by him is
that film Kimmy we watch.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Oh yeah The Alexa, Yeah, with Zoey Habits.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
He is interesting. He does big budget movies. He does
these really super low budget things shot on iPhones whatever. Yeah,
and made it on the scene with a movie years
ago with James Spader and Andy McDowell. Margaret Qualley's mom
(13:08):
put all of them, well not James Spader maybe, but
put all of them on the map. It's called Sex,
Salize and Videotape and it took over Sundance that year
or whatever. It was one of the really big indie
films that sort of started that whole craze in the
early nineties and stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, so he's an interesting dude.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
M Yeah, it was an interesting movie. It was different
from what like what we were reading. It's not what
I expected, because I know you told me. You were like,
it's from the perspective of the thing in the house,
and I was like, okay, and then it was much
more like what you were saying, like real life horrors
and just stuff like that. It's not what I expected,
but it was. It was good. It wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Kind of low key, yeah, personal family stuff. Very different.
And I'm saying that because it was very different from
the movie we watched that night, which we'll get to
later because I think we want to focus kind of
on that and one of the other films that we watched,
very different than our boy, Osgood Perkins's latest film. He's
(14:10):
had two films in less than a year. We talked
about Long Legs a while ago, and all of his
other movies, you and I did at least, so we
all watched together as a family. The Monkey, based on
Stephen King short story from Skeleton Crew, a completely different
(14:30):
tone vibe. Definitely a horror movie. Yeah, totally gory. So
we'll get back to that though. Yeah, and maybe we'll
even get back to the next one too, because a
couple of days later, I was like, I'm watching this
because I've been wanting to see it for a while,
a movie called Strange Darling with Kyle Gallner and Willa Fitzgerald.
(14:54):
And I think I mentioned to you the opening scene
I had caught, like I think two years years ago,
which makes sense because they've.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Got the Didn't it come out in twenty twenty three?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
No, it did not come out in twenty twenty three.
It came out last year, but the date on the
film is twenty twenty three, and so I don't know
what held it up. Yeah, I saw that clip a
good year and a half ago and thought, oh, he's
in another horror movie, because he was starting to be
in a string of I mean, he's always done horror,
but he was in that the latest Scream or whatever,
(15:28):
and he was in Smile and a bunch of other
stuff all at the same time. Yeah, and so I
was like, oh, well, that dude's in another one. And
then I don't even know if we had seen Followed
the House of Usher yet, which Willa Fitzgerald was in
and I thought she was one of the best parts
of that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, she's good.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
And Ed Bagley Junior, my boy, was in that or
I had found out that he was in it, so
I was looking forward to it. And then it came
out and did really well, especially critically, and I thought, Okay,
I'm watching this when it comes out, and it's been
out for a little while, and I wasn't going to
wait any longer, and you were home, so you watched
(16:05):
it with me. So we'll talk about that and the
monkey in a bit. But because of strange Darling, they're
opening crawl I told you, Oh, they're riffing on the
Texas chainsaw massacre here where they've got an opening crawl
and they've got a narrator explaining these horrific crimes that
happen in this area and it's a direct nod to
(16:27):
Texas chain saw Massacre. We the next day watched that.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, the events of that day wore to lead to
the discovery of one of the most bizarre crimes in
the annals of American history, the Texas chainsaw Massacre, which
I had never seen. And you were like, I didn't
watch this until I was like twenty.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Years and I've talked about this on my show. That
was one that spooked me. It just seemed like too too,
too much, too real too oh yeah, and I know
it's quote unquote based on true stuff you ed green
or ed guying and things so inspire the story, and
(17:08):
it just always seemed like too real and so much
as how it was shot and very low budget and grimy,
and it's gross. It's gnarly dirty and sweaty and you
can almost smell the film, you know, just all the
carcasses and everything else. So it just never so much
dead stuff this yeah, it is that actually and it
(17:30):
so it took me a long time to watch it.
But what did you think?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It was good? It was very interesting gross, It was
gross a lot of them. Yeah, it was just that's
like my main thing. It was like, it was you
a lot of the dead bodies, dead animal stuff. They're
fun creations. Specifically that armchair mm hmm. I didn't enjoy
that or the light with the faces on it. That
(17:57):
hurts my heart because that's literally like an ed geen
thing too. Oh yeah, here's my lamp that's made of flesh.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Ah yep, which he actually did. Yes, it's still pretty.
It's gross intense again, not particularly scary in a jump
scare kind of way. Yeah, just more shocking and gross
and disturbing. And that family is disturbing, and you know
(18:25):
that there are families out there, like yeah, it digs
into under your skin. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah. The fact that like you can definitely see this
actually happening, and that there are people like that. As
we've mentioned ed Dean with his fun behavior. It's gross, yeah,
but I liked it. It was a fun watch.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
The two thousand and whatever, two thousand and three remake
is not that bad. Actually, I kind of liked it.
There's been sequels and reboots, and there's the current thing
that they had on Netflix, which I watched. I don't
know if I did an episode with Chris on that
I feel like we were going to and it maybe
didn't happen. No, maybe we did. I don't know. It's
(19:10):
odd that Blonde Gal, the Final Girl, she comes back
for this reboot or not reboot, but legacy sequel. Yes,
it kind of tried to do the Halloween thing with
her and Jamie Lee Curtis, and it's odd. It's really weird.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Mark is referring to the character of Sally Hardesty, not
Marilyn Burns, the actor who played her.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't like the sequel the original sequels made by
Toby Hooper. I don't care for it because it's very
tongue in cheek and the kind of humor I don't
really like in my horror movies, which is funny because
we're going to talk about a horror comedy in a
little bit here. The first film is funny as well,
but it's a different kind of humor.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Well, yeah, like Franklin folliged out the hair.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Well that's what I was gonna ask you. Oh, if
you were pro or anti Franklin, because a lot of
horror fans hate Franklin.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Your invalid brother Franklin. I'm like neutral Franklin. He didn't
really bother me that much. But I also don't like
adore him.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I'm pro Franklin. I think he gets a bad rap,
and I understand why he's OK.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
He's still a little turd, but like it's not that bad.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
They constantly leave him, Yeah, they stranded, can't move. I
never found it all that grading, and I was kind
of surprised to find that out decades later on the
Internet and stuff that people generally hate Franklin.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, I don't. He wasn't that bothersome to me, So
I'm like, he was just kind of chillin'. Yeah. And
they also, like you said, like they leave him places
like he has to get into the house by himself
at one point in his wheelchair with no one helping him.
He has to go like a rant. Basically, he didn't
really bother me, but he was funny. There's some fun stuff. Yeah,
(21:02):
he didn't annoy me. I was just like, he wasn't
my favorite character of the entire movie.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
They're not very clearly drawn characters for one thing other
than him.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Really.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't find him annoying. I understand helping
to see that he is obnoxious set points, but I
also kind of feel sorry for the guy.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Oh yeah, but he wanted to hang out with his sister.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
He is the fifth wheel. Oh yeah, no pun intended
of this group. He gets left aside so often. It's
just kind of makes me sad for him. Yeah, and
I can understand being obnoxious due to that reason. Anyway,
i'd get your opinion on Franklin.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
He's pretty chill.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You're fond of me. Lovester and then we watched The
Lighthouse another Robert Egger is still seen.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
It was weird.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, it's very weird though. I saw that in the
theater because of the Witch and like in The Witch
so much, and I was like, okay, okay, it's a
bit much.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's a bit much more than No Satu as well,
so claustrophobic. Oh yes, it's so small.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Two people going at each other for a whole movie
can get a little grading after a while, but it
is very I like how it's shot. I like the
square aspect ratio. I like the stark black and white.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Like both of them in it, especially William Dafoe.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
He's a little weirdo. I mean he always is. But
like the farting, the farting, you god, damn fat good.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You're like my lobster, don't you.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Oh that was such a wish. Oh my gosh, the
random like mermaid stuff. The seagulls made me laugh. They
were funny also darkly comic, yeah, very much so.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, and Robert Pattinson is very good at it. And yeah,
you know, I got no issue with that guy at all.
I think he's it's good kind of like Daniel Radcliffe.
A lot of people say, you know, they got these big
paychecks for these large eyeps and then they just started doing.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Whatever the stuff after that, both of the weird stuff. Yep.
Even I feel like Elijah Wood is also kind of
in there.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah, same, get all this cash franchise boys getting
these paychecks for Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Twilight
and then going and doing a bunch of weird stuff.
Yeah good them.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah me too, I would do that too.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I liked it. I I don't think I like it
as much as The Witch or No Spratu, but it
was I like Robert Egger's stuff, so I enjoyed it. It
was weird and fun, but definitely not my favorite out
of the three that I've now watched. I still kind
of think that's no Sparratu.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Now that makes sense. I know we talked about this
when we talked about nos Fratu, but the Witch is
still definitely number one.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And yeah, I love the Witch.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Before Nospratu, it was in succession which Lighthouse Northmen, et cetera.
But yeah, et cetera, et cetera. You know, wat's that again?
Speaking of the Lord, Anya Taylor Joy and yeah, et cetera. Okay, well,
(24:49):
so what more about Strange Darlin can we talk about?
Because that was I think of this week and the
movies that we watched, that and The Monkey were my favorites.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, I think that's also me. I really liked Strange Darling.
I love the way it looked. I love nonlinear stuff,
which I think you knew that.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, I love Yeah, I knew. I had heard that.
It was in chapters that are out of order, and
you get bits and pieces of the quote unquote twist throughout,
and we won't spoil it here, but it's not too
hard to figure out what's going on at a certain point,
kind of like Companion, it's yeah, yeah, she's a Roebit
(25:29):
and that things are going south. I'm grateful that they
at least told you what chapter yes on so that
I didn't get too confused.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I actually really liked that because sometimes yeah, nonlinear, like, okay,
I adore Hillhouse, but Hillhouse does not make a great
this is this day that it happens, which like, that's
kind of the thing in Hillhouse. It's very disorienting. But
that's non linear too, But this one tells you this
is chapter three. Chapter three five, I think was the
(26:02):
next one. I liked that, and I also like stylistically,
I liked that there.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Jumped to chapter one. Next chapter one came pretty quick. Yeah,
you're still in the dark about what's exactly going on.
And then, like I said, Ed Begley Junior shows up
and I just forgot her name.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh the lady from Insidious.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, oh gosh, durn it, I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Are we both looking right now?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Barbara Hershey, who's in the entity a really creepy poltergeist
slashcows story and all kinds of other stuff, But happy
to see them. They play a hippie dippy couple. Yeah.
Their breakfast is amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Our reactions so that was so funny, just being like, oh, oh,
they're still making more.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
He makes fried eggs in two sticks of butter and
fries pancakes in the grease from the sausages that he's
been cooking. They pile on like blueberry pie, filling onto
their pancakest.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
My stomach hurt.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
It's a bit much. It is a lot, and they're
just they're happy, happy, and in love and living out
in the wilderness.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They have matching braids.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, chasing off Sasquatch and these people interrupt their lives
and us men well for them, and it's pretty sad. Actually,
that was a very not to spoil it again, but
it was upsetting. It was upsetting the way they shot that.
I was, this is not cool at all.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It was a pretty like cruel kind of mean thing.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah. Yeah. I also liked the nonlinear storytelling. I thought, okay, gimmicky,
but no, it worked in this with the twist that
they employ. And I liked both of them, Kyle Gallaner
and will I Fitzgure a lot in this.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
She's good, She's crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
She's very good. You're confused for a while about both
of them because they're kind of playing roles with each other,
role playing, and then it's confusing as an audience members
to win what's going on? What is their true character?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What character? Very interesting. I liked it. I really liked it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And like you said, the look of it. And I
mentioned to you who shot the film. The cinematographer is
Giovanni Ribisi, which is still I'm not sure what the
deal is with that, if that's like his new thing
or what I knew. The only way to describe who
that was to you should make a friend's reference. I'm like,
(28:52):
it's Phoebe's brother and on friends and you're like, oh
that little guy.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Baby, I know. I was like, are you talking about it?
Then he said that. I was like, oh that guy, hey,
it makes sense. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, so I don't see the connection there. I don't
know if he's done any other cinematography for films or
short films or you expect actors to get into directing,
but it's like CT cinematography. I don't know. It's just
a weird.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But I've really i've really liked it in this movie.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So yeah, and as they proudly announced at the beginning,
shot completely on thirty.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Five milimeter film, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
You can definitely tell there is a genuine grain.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
To a genus. Yeah, the grain.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
And the color palette is all like almost just all
primary color.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, it's very primary, a lot of red, lots of red.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
From what I understand, that was deliberate, like make everything primary. Yeah,
don't use the what are the what are the non
primary colors called secondary? You know?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Like yeah, oh yeah, tels like fusia and orange.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Right, so red, yellow, blue, and it works. It's very
striking to look out.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And also there are times where I was like, this
is modern. Right. The very beginning scene is her in
that old car, but then it also cuts to him
and he's in a very like modern truck and I'm like, rights.
And then one of the scenes, it's when she leaves
the motel and she goes into the I don't know
what business or whatever that is, but the girl with
(30:37):
the red scrubs is in there.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It's the lobby of the hotel. I believe, Oh okay hotel.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's very like seventies looking, and even the main lady there,
they're like receptionist or whatever, very seventies looking. But then
the other girl pulls out a cell phone and I'm like, right, what?
But I love that because they do that, and it
follows too, and I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I think more deliberately and it follows maybe yeah, because
you're not really supposed to understand the year, the season
or whatever for that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, I love it. I love it. Stuff is like
that where it's like when does this take place? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
And part of that, I think is where it's taking place,
because yeah, backwoods Oregon can be kind of out of time. Yeah,
you know in that motel. There are motels like that
that are very very stuck in their era time that
they were built.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Right. Yeah. I liked it visually very good, and I
liked the story was interesting. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, twisty twists, it's good. I was surprised by the end. Actually,
I again not to spoil it, but I thought they
were going to get away.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So did I.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
They kind of don't not really met their match finally,
and with the lady in the.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Truck, Yeah, the cool native lady. Ye, she looked familiar.
I need to look real stuff. Yeah, I don't know.
I might just be being like.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Hmmm, well, I know that the cop, the male cop,
he was on breaking bad. I believe.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I think the female cop looked familiar to me too,
and she's probably on something. I don't know. I need
to go and check.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Usually look all that stuff up when we're watching movies,
try them not too so much these days, trapped in
this like where are they from? Where are they from?
Who's that I know that face? Like when we're watching
the Pit or whatever, that's something else we've been watching.
Like everybody else that I follow on Twitter, at least
everybody fell in love with the pit. Great show, Noah Wiley.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It was really good. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Fiona Dorif all kinds of great people. Great proceipe not procedural.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, I've seen some medical procedural.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Well yeah, sure, that's what I've seen. People call it
one day, fifteen hour period and one day in a
Pittsburgh hospital.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
It was good. I really liked it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, it was very good. Looking forward to the next season.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, they're already on it, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, they are exciting.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Well Saturday night and not just that paid money.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Don't try to say Mahon, say go go how time tonight?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Okay? Well, my favorite film of this past week was
definitely The Monkey, and I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure
because I was excited about it when I first heard
about it, which was not long after Long Legs came out.
It's like, oh, he's already working on a movie.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I know, I think Will.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Was it Will?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Or was it you that showed me something about it?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
And I was like, what already Yeah, already working on
a movie based on a Stephen King short story which
I knew I had read years ago. The first trailer
I saw, I was like, oh, oh, this is gonna
be cuckoo bananas, and I was kind to hear for it. Again, admittedly,
(34:06):
horror comedy is not my fave. I can count on
one hand the ones I like. Tucker and Gale is evil,
evil dead too, But again, they lose their steam for
me when they play it tongue in cheek and this
definitely is tongue firmly in cheek.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Oh yeah. It was so not confident, but like it
was just so there with all of the weird stuff
that it did, where I was like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, it was kind of gleeful about it.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, which I appreciated, very proud of what it was
to me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So I said to you at some point, are you
and your mom at some point in the movie, this
is very different than the short.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Story it's based on, And I asked you, I was like,
in a good or a bad way?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, I mean, it's just completely different because there may
be touches of humor in the story, like there are
in a lot of his stories. Oh more black comedy,
you know, the humor of a situation that's horrible that
you kind of can't help but chuckle at, But this
is played for absurdity. The story is not the shallow
(35:13):
differences are you know, it's not twins in the story
that grow up. It's brothers that are considerably different in age.
And the main brother is married and has kids, and
they're back at the aunt's house. Like the aunt finally dies,
who took care of them? She finally dies. The one brother,
(35:35):
the younger brother in the story, goes back to the
house with his family to clean it up, discovers the monkey,
and then proceeds to have flashbacks to all these horrible
events that happen. Yeah, then gets rid of the monkey
at the end of story. So this is quite different
than that. And the kids are twins for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, I think it's fun.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It starts with them as kids and then we slowly
progress to current day.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
And yeah, can we spoil this one? Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I mean it's kind of brand new. Okay, Oh, what
are you thinking of spoiling The deaths? They're so well
I don't really consider that spoiling oilery.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
The first one is so gnarly.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
The deaths are insane in this and ridiculous. A couple
of people explode in ways that no one would ever explode.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You don't explode the pool one.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, the pool scene is ridiculous but hysterical.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
The very first one, though, is like, oh, what's.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
The very first one?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
The harpoon going through the guy and then oh coming
back out and pulling his intestines out.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
What Adam Scott is in an early scene, he is
apparently these twins' dad dad. Yeah, which again is very
different from the story. I believe he just kind of
disappears quote unquote in the story, something awful has become
of him because of this toy monkey, which is gigantic
(37:07):
in the movie.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah. I was also going to say, can we talk
about the monkey because it's huge and weird. I mean, okay,
the simple monkeys that it's based off of all have
always been terrifying. Yes, I was talking about when we
started it, I was like, oh, the like Toy Story
three trauma, because that has the simple monkey in it, terrifying.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
He's a villain in that.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yes, it's very evil. It's scary for little children.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
According to the trivia. That's why it's in Toy Story
three because of this short story the monkey, which I
don't know how true that is, because those are horrifying,
that's true toys, but they're generally like they're small though, yeah,
and inches tall. This thing is like two feet tall.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Huge. So and when they wind it, it does that smile,
It opens its mouth and smiles or whatever. It's just like, oh,
it's so weird.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Which I believe the actual toys do.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I don't like that. I don't enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's frightening, mouths that open, and of course symbols, which
Disney owns now because of the toy story three things.
So this one plays a drum instead, yeah, which they
used to good effect with the spinning the stick. And
the whole point is that in a story or in
the movie, when the monkey crashes its symbols or bangs
(38:26):
its drum, somebody dies some horrible way, just because because
it's an evil toy monkey.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
There's no monkey lore. It just kills people.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, And I don't remember if there's monkey lore in
the story, because you know, a lot of the short
stories they don't get into that stuff. But I can't
remember if there is some kind of vague explanation as
to how it got this way. But yeah, there's nothing
in the movie at.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
All about that, which is it's fun like that.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, Adam Scott tries to get rid of it at
a pawnshop that goes horribly wrong, takes healthy owner shop,
and then presumably Adam Scott disappears or dies after trying
to burn it with a flamethrower, and then we go
from there through the kid's life. Every time this monkey
bangs it's drum, somebody dies. They get the idea, well,
(39:17):
maybe I could make somebody die on purpose if I
wind it up and have it bang it's drum. And
that goes wrong, and yeah, that's what divides them. And
when they're grown up, they don't really speak to each other. Oh,
the reason I totally went on a tangent, but the
reason I was concerned about it. I was really excited
when I first heard about it. Oh yeah trailer, And
(39:39):
then before we watched it, I had read all of
the reviews, Oh don't do that, more like audience reviews,
and they were all two or less stars and this
doesn't make any sense and it just doesn't go anywhere,
and blah blah blah, And I'm like, oh, oh, but
I enjoyed the heck out of it. Fun what totally
(40:02):
different from his other films.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, I was going to talk about that, like the
other ones that we've watched because we were talking about
how funny and like weird this one is, and I
was thinking about long Legs, and I was like, long
Legs was not very There was definitely comedy and long legs,
but it was not the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And it's weird.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
M m.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
But yeah, different black Coat's daughter and I am the
pretty thing whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
That title is blown in this house.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
It's not really played for laughs. I mean there's funny
stuff in his movies, yeah, but nothing as like this
in your face is this? Yeah, which I think is fun.
He's taking a little left hand turn here.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
M hmm. Well, because also he's in it, and he
gives himself such a weird.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Fifth he's in it, which I was glad.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I know he's fine.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Our boy from Legally Blonde needs to be in stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Right your acting credits, bro, Your daughter has more than
you know.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, speaking of his daughter, I really liked that. Just
made me think of that shot when he walks into
the bathroom at school, the twin that's kind of the
main twin of the story that puts a little bit
of news er sorry, yeah, I mean he's just more
not really Yeah, And that shot of the girls the
(41:17):
mean girls in the bathroom, just like compose almost made
me think of Wes Anderson's stuff for a second there.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
It was very.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Very stylized, and I'm like, oh, we're definitely floating in
different waters in this film for him. Yeah, ignore the
audience reviews because people don't know what they're talking about.
It's a lot of fun. It's interesting. He purposefully wanted
to make Oscar Perkins wanted to make this humorous because
(41:50):
the first draft that he had read of the script
was like dead serious, like the story dark. Yeah, and
he's like, I mean, it's a toy monkey. There's got to.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Be I was literally I go to say, like, it's
a toy monkey that's just killing people for fun. Right,
you kind of have to give it so it.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Should be kind of ridiculous. Yeah, with his history, I
don't know how much you know about his parents. Yes,
oh you know his dad is Anthony Perkins, Yes, I do.
And he died of AIDS. He was a closeted gay man.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I knew that.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, you know, he had that environment growing up where
it was this weird also closeted family secret but not
a secret. And yeah, their mom who was kind of
an actress, but I think more known for photography. Her
sister was an actress, and you know, I don't know
how that dynamic kind of worked out with the family
(42:47):
of I'm married to this man, but he's, yeah, a
closeted gay man, and I think it was more pushing
under the table, like they didn't really talk about it,
and because it was still you know, in the early seventies.
And and then of course he died in the eighties
of complications due to age. And then his mom, their
(43:07):
mom was in the first plane that crashed into the
World Trade Center.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Okay, I was like, there's something yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, So I mean, rough a horrific day for America.
But when you it sucks, wind it down to individuals.
I mean, these two kids lost their mother. That's the
individual horror for him in this grand horrific event. They
(43:37):
lost their mom and they had already lost their dad.
I mean, they were adults by them, still more close
to being adults. I think he's a little bit older
than Yeah, I mean, of course, yeah, like it's still bad,
but they weren't. Like it's not like in the story
where the kids have to now go live with their uncle,
but there is definitely that part of the story here
(43:59):
with them. Yeah, as far as you know, a personal
connection to a weird Stephen King story. They lost both
their parents and so he has some connection with that
and decided the way his mom died probably not so
much the way his dad died, but the way his
mom died was sort of an absurd thing.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, right, that's how very like that doesn't happen a lot.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
So well hope yeah, yeah, hopefully not.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
But like it's a very like one time thing hopefully.
So it's just like really bad.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
You go through that whole thing of why my mom,
and I'm like, well, why not your mom? I mean
why all these other people that were on the planes,
that were in the building, et cetera. You can extrapolate
out to I mean, all death is not only absurd
but also completely normal. Yeah, I mean everybody's going to die.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Hey, that's what his mom talks about.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
That's what his mom says to him exactly. I'll try
to insert the quote here because it's perfect. It's either
in your sleep or some retal ridiculous way. Yeah, and
they go for ridiculous in this.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, everybody dies.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
And that's life. I'll die and you will both die,
and all of your friends and their parents and all
of their pets.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
And everybody, some of us peacefully in our sleep, and
some of us horribly violently died up with clothesline screaming
through duct tape over our mouths and all that jazz.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
And help with it.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Oh, come on, let's go dancing, like adding a humor
to the ridiculousness of it.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
And what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
What can you does?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, it was a fun movie that I really liked it.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
And it was as far as the humor goes their
mom I'm thinking of in particular.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, that's who I was.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
She's her line delivery was great at Oddball. Yeah, she
was a goofball And it was really fun though that
part of it reminded me of Tucker and Dale versus Evil,
where the dialogue and stuff was so crisp and right,
yeah and funny, like the priest.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I was gonna say, the priest being like.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Bros presiding over the babysitters funeral.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
And then.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
It worked for me and I could see though not
working for you know, these people that didn't care for it.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, but also like people need to like bring back
like actually having humor and stuff because like you're no fun,
You're no fun. People who are like it wasn't serious enough.
It needs to be less funny, like bro let it
be silly again. Like we said, this is a movie
about a killer toy monkey that kills people when it
(46:55):
bangs its drums. You wanted it to be serious.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
To me, that would be a tighter line to walk,
to make it not ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, because I think it's inherently ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, and not have people laughing at it because it's
dumb or mak Yeah, that'd be hard to pull off.
I think that's a good call to say this needs
to be ridiculous because it literally is. I guess in
the right hands, and even in his hands, it could
be pulled off.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, because he can do darks that like Black Coat's
Daughter is a pretty serious movie.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, and dark, very dark.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, it's very dark.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
And some of the shots of the monkey in this
are genuinely frightening.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah. Look, he's a little freak.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
He could pull it off. Somebody else could pull it off,
but too. I also think that, yeah, inherently having a
toy be the harbinger of death is inherently goofy.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Yeah, it's Goofy's silly. Of course, there's like creepy dolls
in stuff, but I thinks are also inherently more creepy,
so you can get away with it more being more serious.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
But a monkey, it could be done, I'm sure. But
oh yeah, I think so. It was r the right
call for this.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, and also we enjoyed it, so you know, the
most important thing.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, I'm definitely rewatchable. I think it was under ninety
minutes that long. Yeah, I believe it was under ninety minutes,
so I like that.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I don't know, but I very much enjoyed it. The
monkey was one hour thirty eight, so literally just.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Over ninety minutes, so yeah, but still moved quickly. Still
pretty short, good supporting cast, like a goofy people. Fun,
totally fun.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's fun. I liked it.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Yeah, he's batten about nine hundred for me.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
I like him. I like his stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
I am the pretty thing. Still a little shaky on,
but yeah, I've enjoyed everyone I've seen for multiple reasons.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
I also agree I like him.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, anything else you want to talk about the monkey
or a strange darling or any other monkey kills that.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Let me think if the b one, the wasp one,
that one was gross. That hurt my heart.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
I thought we were going to have another explosion with
the wall.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, I thought he was going to explode, and then
he kind of just like got eaten. It was gross. Yeah,
that swimming pool one is the funniest one, to be ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
The setup for that is sort of ridiculous too, Like,
why is this chick even out there in the middle
of the night, Yeah, jump in this pool. The mechanations
of how this happens, and that's kind of the point,
it's dumb, goes back to what happened to his mom.
It's all ridiculous. Why did this happen? Why did this
happen or hurt?
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Why is this girl out there late at night getting
ready in to swim in this pool where no one
else is really around and that's not safe in the
first place, and then this absolutely ridiculous consruance of events
causes her to explode.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Even his cameo character's death, he got trampled by a
herd of wild horses in his sleeping bag.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah, did the uncle.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
With his one chops?
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:17):
So silly, very much so very silly.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Anything else, I think that's it cool. Once again, can
always end these by saying, who knows when we'll be back,
because you don't really have any vacations until summer vacation,
but who knows what will happen. We may watch some
stuff and have some free time to do this again.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Before then, maybe after my grad practices, we can come
home and I watch a movie.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Okay, I don't know when that is so in May.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
The end of May come on now?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Alrighty well, thanks for joining me and all of see
you later somewhere else in the house. I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Bye. Yep, I come out of my cake.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Thanks to Cleo for being on the show. Thanks to
you all for giving us a listen, and don't forget
anything can happen when you wake up heavy.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
Right like this and start off.
Speaker 5 (51:29):
Wow, this has just been such a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
I'm such a lucky boy. I can't wait to go home.
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