WUH: Weapons (2025)

The Kid and I watched Weapons (2025) and we LIKED it! Plus a bunch of other cool stuff we watched. Apologies for all the Magnolia clips, I just love that movie!!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Wake Up Heavy is a weirdy Way media podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to Wake Up Heavy, the world's greatest horror movie podcast.
On this episode, my weird dad and I will be
talking about and so it goes.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
And so it goes, and the book says, we may
be through with the past, but the past ain't through
with us. Hello, and welcome to Wake Up Heavy. This
is Mark Beagley, your host, and joining me once again
is my all time favorite co host, Leo my kid.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, I better be your favorite, man.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I go back and forth. I like to mix it up.
Like I said, Sometimes you're my favorite, sometimes you're my
third favorite. Sometimes you're my least favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
What the heck?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, last time we talked was just after your graduation
from high school, and since then you have started attending
college Prison State, Yak. Give us a rundown of your classes.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I have a very long art class it's printmaking, and
I have my biology class and its laboratory, and then
an English class and then a communications class. Yeah, so
much nicer than high school.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah. Super jealous of your printmaking class. I wish I
had taken one when I was in college. Never even
thought about it.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's very fun.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I did some printing stuff back when you were before
you're born and when you were little, and that would
have been fun. I am excited to see your prints. Yeah, man,
all right, well we are going to talk about what
we have watched since last we recorded. Got some good
stuff on here. Got some stuff that we actually talked

(02:15):
about on that last episode because we were interested in
watching them, and we pretty much watched them right after
we recorded.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Because of the film oddity that we talked about last time.
We watched Caveat which I had seen before but you hadn't.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
It was good, It was weird, interesting concept. Also like
scary lady in the wall. I was good scarce.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Person in the wall. It's usually a boy in the wall,
but sometimes it's a lady in the wall, and it's.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
A lady in hill house. It's a man.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
And house of usher as well. Oh yeah, because that's
a post story where someone gets yeah, bricked into a wall.
Very simple story, kind of a weird setup, very weird.
This guy gets hired to watch a lady who what
wanders maybe.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Sit this tweaker who gets chained to a wall.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
He gets chained to the wall because he can't go
past a certain spot or something, and yeah, that weird
little rabbit creature, it's kind of cute, showed up in
the audity shop of that gal in Oddity or something similar.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I think it was basically the same thing. It was
a weird little rabbit.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
And then the next movie we watched was because of
talking about Kate Siegel and Mike Flanagan stuff. And I
know you had been asking to watch this one for
a while and I was like, watch it with William.
I've seen it, not that I wouldn't watch it again,
but it was something you guys could watch, and we
had to watch it on TB, which is fine for those. Yeah,

(03:56):
I mean a lot of people really love to be
because of the horror films that they have to offer.
I do get a little tired of the ad breaks.
But we started watching this and it's in black and white,
and I'm like, I don't remember this being in black
and white. So anyway, it was hush like Flanagan, one
of Mike Flanagan's early films with his wife Kate Siegel.

(04:19):
Again a very simple story, but I realized, oh, there's
a different version here that like amplifies the sounds or something,
and it is in black and white for some reason.
I'm not really sure what.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
That correlation hasks. She's deaf, not deaf color blind.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know anyway, found the
correct version that has both versions on to B. Just
make sure you're watching the one that you prefer to watch.
And yeah, good, simple story.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I like it. I liked it. I like the Easter
Egg too. That she's the author of Midnight Mass in them,
they're all connected.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I want to say Midnight Mass shows up.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
In I think it's in Gerald's game.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, it's on the bookshelves, and maybe one or two
of his other films. Yeah, look up that Easter Egg
people and figure out for yourself.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, send us a letter, send us some fan mail.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
But we have quite a few other films of his
that we still need to watch. I've seen most of them.
I think, let's.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Say, the one.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oculus is pretty good. There was one that I did
not like. I think it's a Netflix film. Oh, what
was it called Appointments Room or something like that.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
The name of the Mike Flanagan film that Mark didn't
care for is Before I Wake, not the Disappointments Room,
which Mark also didn't like.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Okay. And then the most recent one, which isn't horror
at all.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Right, Yeah, it's supposed to be really good, The Life
of Chuck, based on Stephen king story her book, but
not a horror story, like a life affirming story. Wow,
I want to watch that one actually. Okay, Next up,
why did we watch this?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Mom was out with a friend late at night and
we were like, we need to do something, and we
looked through old horror stuff and we found this.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, it just stumbled on it. Okay, I wasn't sure
if there was.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
You probably also were like kind of pushing it because
I don't know, you've seen it a bajillion times.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, no, I think you're right. We were just scrolling
through the horror section on Exfinity and looking at the
classic ones, and I probably paused on that one. And yeah,
so we watched the original The Amityville Horror, which I
still really really enjoy.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I really liked it. I know it's good. I
like old I don't know, I like the first Conjuring movie.
I like haunted houses. I think they're fun when done right,
it's fun.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
This is much tamer than the Conjuring films as far
as oh, yeah, not so much tamer In well maybe
tamer and Gore al though I don't think the Conjuring
movies or that gory.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
No, they're just like scary.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
They get real amped up with the throwing of people
and I'm.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Gonna throw.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, yeah, getting dragged across the floor, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah,
so this is kind of the template for all of those.
And they supposedly investigated the Amityville House, the Warrant.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Anyway, I love their characters in the films, but yeah,
the Warrants were total scammers.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, sorry guys, And like Lukie, I think I've heard
that they were also just like odd people in general, so.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I would imagine. So yeah, I wouldn't find that surprising in.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
The least fun concept though I love paranormal Investigator stuff
or just like X Files.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, I like stuff like that based on a true
story quote unquote heavy quotes on that that's been debunked.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like a Viagillia.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
The instigating incident is real, oh for sure. The haunting
probably not.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, I liked Amniville, though I liked the Pig is
great love.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I told you while we were watching that that it
took me decades to even. Oh, see the image of
the pig that's supposed to be in that in the window,
And I'm like what.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
When we were watching it, you said it, I think
after and I was like, that didn't look like a pig.
And then I went looked it up and I was like, oh,
it is a pig.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
It's just a little cutout of a drawing of a pig. Though,
we should watch the remake. I actually kind of like
it with Ryan Reynolds.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Oh oh, oh, I think I knew that. Yeah, it
was him.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
It gets a little over the top for a remake
of a classic. It's pretty enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Solid. That's good. Please no more weird black Christmas remakes.
I like your nurse's uniform.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Guy, These are or scrubs?

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Oh are they?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
We watched Wes Anderson's latest. Oh yeah, weren't interested in
but did you watch it?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Mom and I were like, forget you man, we're going
to watch this whatever I did.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Actually I didn't catch some things, but I saw most
of it and I liked it. It was interesting and
different kind of.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I really liked it as far as as like last
few two or three films, yea, this is my favorite
of the bunch. It was short for one thing, Yeah,
one story French Despatch kind of hit and miss with
the stories and that. Yeah, and what was the other one?
What was his other latest.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
One, Asterroid City, which I know you didn't.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, I didn't really care for that one, and I
like this way more than that.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
When we first watched Ashurid City, but like, the more
I think about it, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, that had too much going on too. This was
much simpler, very just yeah, and funnier, not so much
the cynical kind of modeling what was me crap that
had been plaguing his movies.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I liked that Michael Sarah was in it.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Like that Michael Sarah was in it. I like the
gal that played the nun.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I was just gonna say that I liked her. I
don't she's somebody, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
She's Kate Winslet's daughter.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yes, Okay, yeah, I was like, she's I don't know,
but I liked it and I liked her character. I've
been consuming a lot of non media recently.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I have to actually off topic. I'll talk about those
on my own later, but not the kind of nun
movies you're going to be watching anytime soon. Oh okay,
although you did see Immaculate and the first omen, so yeah,
these probably aren't any worse than that.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I'm sure they're fine. I love weird nuns. I think.
I don't know, I like that trope.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
We got back into one of the franchises we watched.
I think for the last recording we went to the
Final Destination films that were available on HBO Max, which
is basically all of them. I don't know why I
keep saying the ones that are on there, because they're
all of them, including the latest one, which we watched,
Final Destination Bloodlines. I knew the subtitle this time.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yes, getcha fun. Yeah, it was actually fun too solid.
I had fun with it. That opening was fun and
some degloving. Oh yeah, that was gnarly.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, speaking of Gerald's game, that's the worst.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Gosh, no, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That makes me weaken the knees time I see that.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
I'm so happy, I like barely watched that scene. I
don't know, I'm good. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's gnarly. I mean, I think that's just one of
the gnarliest things that could happen to a person.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
And oh, just like no More skin cute, very.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Very realistic in Gerald's game. Yeah, but Final Destination films,
they're fun. This was Tony Todd's last film. I had
forgotten that he was in most, if not all of them.
I think there might be one of the early ones
that he's not in. Yeah, I might be wrong about that.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think he's in like all of them.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, he's the exposition man basically in all of them,
explaining to the new group of people what is going on.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I don't know how they find him each time, but
they do.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, it gets a little convoluted. Well, this guy seems
to know everything about these I did like.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
That they kind of gave him a backstory, and this
one it was fun, fun, interesting and different for Final Destination.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
It was one of the better of the six now
that there are just up there with one and two.
As far as how much I enjoyed it. If you're
interested in you you haven't watched him. They are all
on HBO Max, So knock yourself out. Six there are
six of them.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Should just do a marathon in one day.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, watch them all on one day, next one, next
on wait, wait, wait, wait what what? That's the last one?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
There's not.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
We're uber, what's next on our list? I think this
was your choice.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, it was we or I guess I picked Stop
Motion to watch. We had seen it a few times,
I think, on Hulu, and I was like, let's just
do it. It has a weird concept, let's watch it.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I had seen it when it first showed up on
Shutter when I still had Shutter, and I don't have
Shutter anymore. I don't know if I've mentioned that on here,
but I canceled my subscription, not for any other reason
other than I haven't watched that many movies on there.
Unfortunately over the last couple years. It is one of
the I'm going to say this now, it's one of

(13:49):
the best streaming services. It's one of the most affordable.
Probably should have dropped something else, but yeah, I realized, well,
a lot of these are showing up on why pay
for both? Shutter obviously gets other stuff that Hulu doesn't,
but a lot of the older stuff that they get,
I've already seen a bunch or I own or whatever. Yeah,

(14:11):
nothing against them at all. I just didn't feel it
was necessary anymore. Anyway, this is one of the films
that want to say, is a shudder quote unquote exclusive which.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Isn't not so exclusive exclusive.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
It's one of those I call them hysterical women films, well,
because you don't know if anything that's happening is real
or if it's all on her head. And she's obviously
having mental health issues as well, suffering at the hands
of her overbearing mom until she passes away, etc. Et cetera. Yeah,

(14:47):
so she's grown up in this world of stop motion
animation working for her mom and then continues it and
lots of creepy squishy stuff noises and creations of hers.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Grows near the ends some gross body torror almost yeah, yeah,
that's heard of the leg muscles. Yes, I did like that.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I don't even know if I would call it body
horror so much as self mutilation.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Straight up, I'm just going to take my leg muscle
out and use it. I did not. I was like,
this is hurting my legs, This makes my legs hurt.
But it was good.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, it was interesting. It was kind of a downer, which,
oh yeah, be fun sometimes. But yeah, low budget film.
They apparently did all the stop motion in weeks or months,
you know, because you always think crazy that's stuff taking years,
but they basically filmed all the live action stuff and
then on the sets or on the smaller sets, they

(15:46):
did everything with force perspective and film the animation stuff
kind of at the same time.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I see, not.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
When the actors were there, but they didn't do it
later on, after all the acting had to be done.
They film a scene and then they would come in
and do the animation and then piece those two separate
pieces of film together. And you couldn't tell me that
that's the way they had done it while we were
watching it, and all looked seamless.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, it was interesting. I liked it, very interesting.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
The next movie I had been pushing for a while.
Oh yeah, especially since we watched mikeel Monroe stuff barely recently,
and this is one of hers that I really I
didn't like this film the first time I watched it,
but it has grown on me. I think I've watched
it maybe three times since that first time. The guest
with Dan Stevens and Michael Monroe and the kid from

(16:38):
what was the.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Brother in Was it Scary Stories?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
No, No, it's not scary stories. Oh might have to
have my AI assistant insert that in for me. But
we looked it up, or one of us remembered when
we were watching it, but he'sn't something else. I don't
remember their parents the dad Leland Orser from Oh Yeah

(17:01):
you are Hello, the Banco? Yes, who is the man?
I love his character and this is like constantly drinking.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, he's so weird too.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
I'm gonna have a beer. Maybe I'll have some whiskey too.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Oh lord.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I mean they've lost their son in the war and
Dan Stevens shows up because he knew him quote unquote
and yeah, totally going around comforting families quote unquote. Kind
of an interesting concept. I like to think of it
as Terminator Light. Yeah, very terminator, yesque.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I liked that the kid is from Color out of Space.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would have taken me
forever to get that.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah. I was like, I'm just gonna IMDb it.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Which is also a great film by the way, I
think we talked about a while back.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, it was a very weird different person in Scary Stories.
We'll get to that later.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Oh yeah, yes we will, mm hmm. Not the person
I was thinking of, but yes, one of the other
guys in Scary Stories. Yeah, completely commercial, right, now, but no,
I know. But there's another kid who looks kind of
like this kid that was in the guest that's in
a commercial right now, and every time I see it,
I just think of scary stories. Oh it's in the dark.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
And Yeah, I liked the guest. I like Micah Monroe,
obviously I love her. Also A lot of these are
like just very interesting concepts the movies that we've watched.
I kind of like how it's built up that it's
just like, oh, I'm gonna help. Well, I'm here because
I knew your son or whatever. But then also like
he goes to the party with Micah, he tells the
kid to like beat up his bully. He's fine until

(18:39):
he's like not at all.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, his motivations are weird, not real clear there, Yeah,
very cloudy. I think the first time I watch it,
I didn't like it as much because I didn't quite
get like, what is he doing here doing? Yeah, I
missed some of the I mean this happens because I'm
often doing other things like working while I'm watching a movie,
kind of like with Black Coat's Daughter, I missed some

(19:03):
key points in that that confused me and didn't quite important. Yeah,
they didn't seem to make the movie make sense. This
is much the same way.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
I remember that we were doing an MTV interview and
they were like, you know, why did you think about George,
and Quinton was like, wait a man. It was like
I said, and I was watching yr Man and I
look over and I'm thinking, you know, fuck man, that
guy and could be like brothers.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
You know, And I see they're like going, what all right,
what's next?

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Ah? Oh? Another, uh, I need something to watch type
of thing. It was from Dust till Dawn.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
You said you wanted to watch something silly or goofy. Yeah,
well this is pretty goofy. Let's watch this talk about
a goofy concept. Yeah, a bar in Mexico filled with vampire.
This is one of those movies that starts out as
one thing and turns into something else, which I enjoy

(20:07):
quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah. I liked it too. Also, you pointed out that
the director or whatever was the director of Spy Kids,
and once you said that, I was just like, I
can see it in everything. It's like so obvious.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, and we should watch his other movie. He and
Tarantino did a pair of films that they're released together.
Dog is trying to attack our.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Mailman right now, she's so protected.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
They're released together as Grindhouse Presents or what. I can't
remember what the title of the thing. Yeah, thing was together.
But death Proof is Tarantino's and Robert Rodriguez's No Shooting.
I forgot the title of it. Oh, it's fun. Josh
Brolin's in it, Rose McGowan, a whole bunch of people,

(20:52):
and it's kind of goofy, like this very gory, like
just split. I mean, this one's pretty gory. But Planet Terror, Yeah,
I think that's it. They're both pretty fun. Actually, And
you haven't seen either of those.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
No, but I've heard both of the names. Yeah, it
was weird the first it's not like half of the movie,
but like the first part of it is like annoying
Quentin Tarantino and then also just like George Clooney and
then the family and then we're on an awful road
trip and then once we get to our destination, it's
just insane.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I don't want to say an action movie, but it's
much more serious at the start, and they robbed this
bank and gotten away. Tarantino and Clooney play brothers who
are on the lamb.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Interesting genetics there.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah. Oh, there's a funny, very funny interview with George
Clooney who talks about Tarantino wanting him because and I
think it might have been after he worked on because
he didn't direct in an episode of r R. Yep,
he wanted him because he felt like they looked a
lot alike, that they could play brothers. And George Clooney

(22:00):
in the interviews kind of like.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Do whatever you say. Really, he doesn't.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
Say anything, but his face is like really, that's like crazy,
the like Quentin Tarantino And then like George Clooney, who
has been like I don't know, every like woman in
the nineties, crush ever or whatever, And Quentin Tarantina is like, yeah,
me too.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Okay, I mean they have a vague resemblance. It kind
of works, but.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, whatever you say, Quintin.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
It's sure anyway, it's sort of serious. And then once
they get to the Titty Twister bar in me casto,
excuse my friend, things go crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Also, what's his face out? Remember his name playing like
three different.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Characters, Yeah, cheech Marin.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I was like, oh, he's the cop and then oh,
also he's announcing the club bar's uh specialties and stuff.
I don't know. It was fun. A lot of foot
stuff for Quinton too.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Of course, of course we won't get in all that.
All right, what's next on the list?

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh? Yeah, throw Mama from the train? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I think your mom was like, we're watching this?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, I think it was her and we were like.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Okay, well, I've been pushing for it since we watched
Do Revenge?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
What do revenge? The Mya Hawk one?

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Is that what it's called?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Do revenge?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
She is do revenge? Yeah, I'll never remember that. That's
why I always point to you do revenge. That's so stupid.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah. The Mya Hawk movie, yeah right.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Which was Strangers on a Train, which throw Mama from
the train is is also Yeah, for.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Example, your wife, my father.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Criss cross swapping murders. I think when we were watching this,
I mentioned that I had seen it in the theater.
I think I saw it in the theater, I can remember.
If not, though, I remember watching it a bunch, either
on cable or on VHS back in the day, and
always really liking it.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
It was fun. Annoying mom character the Chip from Goonies.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I wouldn't call her annoying. I'd call her frightening. True, yeah,
I mean, you know, annoying.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Sure, but she's scary, yeah, very scary.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
From goonies and tons of other stuff. She's in a
pretty fun West Craven horror movie. Oh has a really
amazing death scene in that. Oh wow, I should watch
it sometime. Actually, okay, I've always really liked this movie.
This was one of the Billy Crystal movies that I
watched a bunch back than this and Oh Crap, Running

(24:36):
Scared were my two Billy Crystal movies. I'm not all
that big on him.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I think I've literally only seen him in Harry Met
Sally and then as the dub of Calcifer in Helcaby Castle,
which is an animated movie. So does that even really count?
Oh wait, he's literally Mike Wazowski and Monsters, Inc.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, and he's in The Princess Bride.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh yeah, okay, so I'm just dumb.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
You're just nothing through child.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Well he's like not okay in Prince's Bride. He's freaking
an old man.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I know, he was pretty big for a good long while.
There a city slickers. There's all kinds of you know
when Harry met Sally, et cetera, et cetera. This was
one that I remember watching way more than any of
those other ones. Yeah, and Danny DeVito is.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
Just delightful in this fun Danny DeVito slow, dumb yeah
character yeah, just overshadowed by his crazy mom is delightful mother.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Speaking of delightful, I wanted to watch this one. I
don't know much about Tim Robinson.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I didn't even know if I knew this movie existed to.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
I know a lot of people like his Netflix show.
It just seems like it's cringe, I guess.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Is the one not your style of.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I'm not really into that where somebody is just
a complete idiot and does really stupid stuff just to
get reacted. It's like Borat or something, that movie where
it's all a setup. I don't even really know if
that's what his show is about, because there are some
clips that I have seen. There's one where this nightmarish
creature breaks into his house. That's pretty hysterical.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
When you can't sleep and you see that thing, you're
not just like right away that's a peg with a mask.
You're like, that's gonna kill me.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
That's real, that lives less honor, and I've seen lots
of clips of his show Detroiters, which looks really funny actually,
So anyway, I, for whatever reason, maybe it was Paul
rudmore than Tim Robinson, I wanted to see this movie Friendship.
I thought it was gonna be one of those things
where Tim Robinson tries to take over Paul Rudd's life

(26:41):
or something like that. That was the initial impression I
got from the trailers that I saw, which is not
the case I did not see.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I literally don't think I knew about this movie at all. Well,
I'm also just not really I don't keep up with
I like Paul Redd, but I'll keep up with either
of them, so I don't really know if I would
have known either way.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
You do follow a twenty four though, and this is
an A twenty four film.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's true. But I don't even remember if I saw
anything about this on their ear.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
They must have missed it, because they definitely played clips
on there.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
And I probably did.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, Paul read and his pay Yeah that.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Was crazy, folks, Just like reveal of No Hair was just.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Like, oh yeah, it was different than what I was
expecting and quite odd. Oh very took some really weird
turns like losing his wife in the sewer system of
the city, and it just Yeah, it wasn't super cringey
or anything, but.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Just like odd, like wait, what are we doing that?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Weird? Weird? I kind of liked it though, I enjoyed it,
but it was very strange.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
It was I'm a twenty four I don't know. That's
what we'll blame it on.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, we'll be honest.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
I don't get many visitors when I do. You think
they want to talk about this shit? Fuck Now, It's
like if you worked at a slaughterhouse with livestock, real
conversation stopper, did you No, I'm just saying people who
hunt other people for a vocation, all we want to
talk about is what it's like, shit that went down,

(28:18):
entire fucked upness of it. It's not easy, butchering people.
It's hard work physically and mentally. I don't think people
realize you need to vent. What are you writing down?

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I just think it's an interesting choice of words.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Vocation.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
Well, what would you call it a hobby? I'd say
it's more than that. Look at the consequences. The stakes
are very high.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Well, we have a couple other movies to talk about.
These are kind of our highlights for the show. But
let's uh talk about a couple of TV shows because
we finally I mean, it's been a while, but we
finally finished Er, Yes, which we have been watching, dude forever.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
I don't even remember what.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
We said, at least three years.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I want to say we started watching it at the
beginning of the pandemic, but I don't think it was
that first year.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I don't think it was that early. It might have
been twenty twenty one, but.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I feel like we were still all not I don't
that's it just seemed like it was still kind of
a weird time. Yeah, like we weren't going out a
lot or anything.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
And which still could have been twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I would bring it up because of you guys watching
Gray's Anatomy constantly, and I'm like, hey, if you want
to watch our good, a good medical show, you should
watch Er because it's all on HBO Max, the whole series,
fifteen seasons. It was our summer show. We'd always stop,
yeah when school started, and even though I felt like

(29:56):
getting back, it never would never happen until at some
point I would lose that urge, and then no one
else brought it up, and then summer rolls around.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
They're like, what should we watch? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, like constantly doing that, what should we watch? What
we watch? Well, let's sitting there five seasons of so
we did finally finish it, and the last couple of
seasons are a little bit harder to get through. It's
still a pretty solid show all the way through. I
don't even think I had watched the last two or
three seasons when they played. I think I had been

(30:27):
done with it for a while.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, I don't know. There's when did it end? I
don't know, because isn't there, you know, stories of mom
watching it while she's pregnant with me?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, it ended in the two thousands. It was running
the same time Craze Anatomy started.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
And yeah, because that started in two thousand and five,
which I think is funny because that takes place in Seattle,
and that's where I was just called him George Clooney.
What's his character's name?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh, shoot, Doug, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Doug and Carol. That's where they are. They go to
Seattle in the show. They work out one of my
friends colleges. Finny. I remember when we got to that
episode and it was like University of Washington or whatever,
and I was like, that's my friend's school.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Finally finished it, finally got out of the Africa plot lines. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah, that was kind of a drag that whole Noah Wiley.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I did not like that stuff. No Wiley and but
to face Pratt and Africa getting beat up and yeah,
saving people.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I vaguely even remember that storyline back then. I probably
didn't even watch all of those episodes.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, the last season was like pretty good. I don't know,
I liked it.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
They brought back a lot of the people for cameos
and stuff. And they're speaking of that. We will be
talking about an actress that was in the last season
on one of our highlight movies. We'll see if you
remember when we get to it. I'm like, uh, yeah,
I know. I've said it vaguely for that exact reason,

(31:58):
because you don't have any idea what I'm talking talking about. Okay,
we watched one of my all time favorite shows. I
think this is trying to think of.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Something remotely close.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah, that would be number one. Opposed to this and
I can't.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Actually, I really liked it too, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, we finally watched with you mind Hunter.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
And it was really good.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's really good.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I really really liked it, like a lot.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Really makes me sad that we never got that third season. Yeah,
I keep seeing the rumor and I saw it again
the other day because Holt, I don't know how to
pronounce his last name. I don't know if it's mclaney
or mcallenie the older oh character, what is his character?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'm usually good at this stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Hey, maybe just watched it.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
My mama, Bill Tench Bill Tinch.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yes, So he has announced or said in interviews that
they are working on scripts for movies. I don't think
it's a season, so for movies that would be fun.
I help wrap it up. I'm hoping that they get
to BTK because they string that along for it's in
both of those seasons and it's just little.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
I actually really like that obviously, not that it doesn't
get resolved because the show got I don't know if
the show actually got canceled or if he got postponed
indefinitely or something. I don't know. It's weird. What I
was saying is that I like how they did the
BTK stuff that it's just kind of a little clip
in each episode and there's no context to it, like
at all, either.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
At the beginning or end of an.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Episode of This Little Freak.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
I think at first I was like, who is this
supposed to be? But the guy really looks a lot
like it's like if he did back then, so it
didn't take too long to fear it. I'm at a
certain point when he's driving around in his van for ADT,
It's like, oh, Okay, this has got to be I
think I was confused originally because I couldn't really ever

(34:00):
put my finger on when it was supposed to take place,
because they are very vague about the which I kind
of like yours, although I believe in the first episode
it's says tinch, Yeah, he says nineteen seventy eight, and
then there are references along the way too, things that
are happening in the world. And also you can take

(34:21):
hints from the music that's being played. Yeah, it's like, okay,
it's seventy nine, now it's eighty. They go into the
early eighties in that second season. The Atlanta child murders
happened in the early eighties eighties. Yeah, and BTK was active.
That's why for a while. Forget that he was active
for a very long time from the seventies to the nineties.

(34:42):
Not active the whole time.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
But he had a big pause, didn't he. Yeah, it
was like seventies and then like nineties.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah space Yeah no. If it was because his wife
discovered him in that horrible get up trying to strangle himself.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh god that was going on or what.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
That kind of chilled him out. But anyway, geez, just
a fantastic show. I love. It's really good, the three
main characters, all the storylines they deal with. The Ed
Kemper stuff is just amazing.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Fantastic impression of.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
That guy doing I probably I wouldn't even be able
to do it right now because I put on the
spot hold him. No, yeah, I can't try.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
It's great though it was.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, people think it's easy to happeitate, See I can't
do it. It's actually quite difficult now. But he the
guy that plays Ed Kemper, and that is he's really good,
perfect because I have seen interviews of the real Ed
Kimper and it is a spot on.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
God.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, creepy lots of creepy stuff, handle it very well though. Yeah,
that's a great, great show.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I like, Okay, Mom and I used to watch or
listen to like true crime stuff, but like, I don't know,
when I got a little older, I was like, is
some of this stuff chill the way people go about
true crime? But mind huntor I think, at least in
my opinion, does it pretty well, just in a better
way than like some series do. Monsters, the Ryan Murphy Show, yeah,

(36:17):
the Jeffrey Dahmer Show.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not exploitative. It doesn't feel exploitative anyway. Yeah,
the Ryan Murphy stuff. Your mom sent that Gean, I'm
not watching that well. I just it gets it gets
to a point sensationalized.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
It's like where do you draw the line with that?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, And I was talking to mom about it. I
had seen like when Netflix first posted about the Ed
Green thing, and it was like the actor who's playing
ed gean with like a chainsaw and he's shirtless, and
I was just like what. I was like, there's no
way we are watching a Ryan Murphy show right now, Mom,
and I yeah, yeah, it's like an original story. So

(37:00):
that's why I was like chill with watching it.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I mean, we watched the OJ Simpson one that was
you know, like the True crime the what did they
call that series? They did them in Indez case as.

Speaker 9 (37:12):
Well, and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Uh, American it's not American Horror Story, which different shows
we also stopped watching. That's his thing, but it's it's
like American Crime Story or whatever. I don't know something.
I'm not big on his stuff at all. It's not
just the sensationalism, but it's he doesn't have a delicate touch.
Everything's got to be like way over the top. And yeah,

(37:36):
that's why after a certain point with American Horror Story,
I was like, I can't. This is just everybody's insane
and this is just awful, and ah no, I'm done.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Because even in the show that we're watching, there are
certain characters where it's just like, why are we doing this?
It's so weird.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I mean I've been seeing bits and pieces of it
while you guys are watching it, and yeah, I don't know,
like subtlety have you heard of it?

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Have you heard of it? Yeah? Literally, I'm like, where
is it?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Because that can work too, But mind Hunter, Yes, I
hope they do something.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, I would love just now watching it.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, if it's just a movie, or if it's a
couple of movies, great.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
If it's like two three hour long episodes, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah whatever, just bring everybody back and.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
A limited series, that's fine. Just make more.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah. I don't think that's what they're going to do.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
No, I doubt that. But movies would be cool as
long as it's like everyone and not just like Bill
I like, but like, bring back Jonathan Groff, I like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And he's massive ego in the show.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yes, he is arrogant, egotistical, but effective agent, very effective,
great stuff. Anyone who's listening to this has not watched it,
Watch it, do it, do it. It leaves you hang
in a little bit at the end of that second season, but.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Especially with is this kid's named Damien or whatever? I
don't know. I don't remember what his name was.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
No, I don't think it's Damien. I don't think. I
don't remember named after the anti Christ.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
But oh, what was it?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I don't know, Stephen?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
No, was it Stephen?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I don't think it was anything weird like Damien.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Anyway, Well, you never know, because it was Brian Bruh,
What the heck?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Hey man, all right, we'll be back in a second. Here.
We're gonna highlight three films. One that we watched half
a year ago that I have mentioned on the last
two episodes we forgot to get to, so we'll get
to that, and then uh, one new movie and one
new to Cleo movie that we watched right after this.

(40:11):
If you listened to our last couple episodes, I mentioned
that we watched Stop Making Sense a while back, apparently
on my birthday this year, and didn't talk about it
because I left it off one of my lists that
I used to compile the show with, and then I'm like, oh,
maybe we'll get to it next time. Didn't get to
it next time, so we're getting to it this time. Yes,

(40:36):
And I hadn't seen it in forever. Of course. It
was re released by A twenty four Speaking of them,
sometime last year. They did a whole new four K
scan of it. Blah blah blah cover album.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
There was a cover album that came out with a
bunch of different people. Paramore did burn down the house.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I think, yeah, I don't know anything about that.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I witnessed it real time.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Cool that was one of the albums I had was
the soundtrack and that Actually I think I might have
had the album before because I didn't see the movie
in the theaters. I had Speaking in Tongues and really
really liked that album, but I didn't know much of
their other songs. There were a few songs that were
played on the radio Psycho Killer every so often, but shoot,

(41:22):
I forget the name of the one probably their biggest
hit other than bringing Down the.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
House Once in a Lifetime.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yes, once in a lifetime or so. I knew a
couple of their songs, but when I got that soundtrack,
I was like, oh, they got a lot of coo
older songs, and so I started from the beginning, got
the first album on tape, then I got the second one,
and then I got the third one, then I got
fourth one, and I kept up with it through after that.

(41:50):
After Speaking in Tongues the new albums I would get.
I have liked the Talking Heads for years. It's one
of my favorite bands, talking Heads. Sorry, not the talking Heads,
Come on, dad, Yeah, I haven't seen this movie and
ages though.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Well, I knew about it because A twenty four and
like I remember when it was re released, but will
my cousin also has the like four K like Little
Box not set. It's one movie, but you know of it,
and I've been like, oh, I want to watch it.
So I was probably the one who was like, Dad,
it's your birthday, we should watch that.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, I think you will, and you like And we
didn't watch his four K of it. We had access
to it, so we watched it, and what'd you think?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
It was fun. I like concert movies and stuff, like
I've seen a lot, but like some of them. I
like them. I also I just like Talking Heads because
of you.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
You and mom went and saw that Taylor Swift concert movie,
right yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Kind of it's more of a documentary, but like there's
a Billie Eilish one kind of two few of them.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
This when it came out was touttered as like one
of the best concert movies of all time. This and
like Woodstock, which is four hours or whatever.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah, wait, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
And the Last Waltz that Martin Scorsese directed for the
band's last show, that's always touted as like one of
the best concert movies. So this is high praise, yeah,
for years, and it's just great music, but it is
really well filmed too. It's really well made.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I like all of the like I mean because it's
literally the concert, but they include all of it, the
like opening where they all like come on stage at
different times.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah. Yeah, he starts, and then with each successive song
more band members come out. I love it verst it's
just him, and then it's him and Tina Weymouth, and
then one or two other ones come out, and then
the whole some extra people extended band that they toured
with at that point and recorded with.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah. I love the backup dancer or singers, not dancers. Yeah, yeah,
the girls are cool. I don't know. It was fun.
I really liked it. I definitely watch that again.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, we'll have to borrow Will's things so we can
see high deff of it. And probably been assuming the.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Sound, huh, I said hi to David Brr, And.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I'm assuming the sound will be a lot better too.
So let me ask you this, what's your favorite Talking
Hits song?

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Wait, that's actually kind of a hard question. I might
steal yours and say Love goes to a Building on Fire.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
That's what I was expecting you to say, because every
time that comes on in my car we both rock out.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yes, I love that song.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
It kind of skipped through a lot of because I
listened to the first five albums so much when I
was a teenager. That in the car, I kind of
skipped through a lot of stuff. But that song I
always play, and the oh shoot, the David Byrne song
that they.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Do What a day it was?

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, I always play that song too.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
That song plays in Will's car a bunch too, so
I like, I really love that song too. So I'm
just like, yay, yay.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
If you listen to the original version from one of
his solo albums, it's not nearly as good as that live.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, I listened to the live one. If I'm like,
I want to listen to the song, it's going to
be the live versy.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
It's a lot better.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's like supposed to be live.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Almost anything else about stop making sense or talking heads.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I like, meand I do want to get my mom
talked about this because we're like, we want more band shirts,
and I'm like, I want talking heads.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
But that's it their second album, more songs about buildings
and food. I've always loved that cover of all those
polaroids kind of pieced together of them. That would be
a cool shirt.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I don't know the album names, but actually might be
the one that you're talking about where it's just all
of them, but like with different features and stuff. It's
like black and white. I think it.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
No, that's remain in light. I like that one, and
where it's just their portraits.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
You mean, yeah, it's just a bunch of pictures of them.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
But they like, Okay, you'll have to show me because
I'm not ringing any belts.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Ah Cleo is talking about the Best of Talking Heads,
a two thousand and four compilation album.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
One of the other movies that I wanted to highlight
ties in with the main movie for this episode. I
have been wanting to watch this one for a while
because of well, for a couple of reasons. Red Letter
Media did an episode on Weapons, which I hadn't seen yet.
Jay talked about seeing a lot of Paul Thomas Anderson
in Zach Kreiger's filmmaking in Weapons, in particular with Magnolia. Yes,

(46:29):
I had caught about I want to say, not half
of the movie, but I believe I caught it before
the Reign of Frogs.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
How good haund In Scott.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
But I caught a bit of it sometime within the
last couple of months on cable you and mom were
doing other things because I was just sitting out front
by myself. I was like, oh man, I love this movie.
I want to watch it again. So I kept that
in mind. Then watched that Weapons video on Red Letter
Media and they mentioned that and I was like, maybe
want to watch it even more because Weapons was unavailable yet,

(47:01):
and so we did. We ended up watching it. I
picked it. I was like, we're watching this sometime this weekend.
It's over three hours long, so let's set a time.
Prepare yourselves. We watched Magnolia.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, you had it. It was like sitting out for
a few days and we're like watching this at some
point and I was like, okay, I had watched the
Red Letter Media video with you, so I knew that
that was probably li It was there, but partly and
I think me and Will had maybe discussed or like
had just mentioned it at some point to each other

(47:33):
not to watch, but just like have you seen this
or like do you know about weapons in this?

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah? So first Paul Thomas Anderson film that you've seen,
you won't be seeing Hookie Knights anytime soon. Okay, But
I do have his first film, Heart eight, which also
stars John c Riley and the old guy that plays
the game show host in Magnolia and Gwyneth Paltrow and

(48:01):
Samuel Jacks. Good movie, very very good movie. He's kind
of hit and miss with me his first three movies
I really like. After that There Will Be Blood I
can hardly watch just because Daniel da Lewis's character is
such an awful, awful person. It is very good. That
came out the same year as True Grit, and they
were kind of battling each other for the Oscars that year,

(48:24):
and I'd watch True Grit like fifty times before I'd
watched There Will Be Blood again.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Mark obviously meant No Country for Old Men, not True Grit.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Because it's a lot more enjoyable as far as stress
and whatever. Yeah, for sure, Man, Every time I watch Magnolia, though,
I realized this is probably one of my all time
favorite movies.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
It was really good. I really liked it. I liked
all the I love. It's not really anthology. It's like
the weird middle ground because they're all connected. Yeah, I
like that. I like it all.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, it's a big ensemble cast with some moremultiple storylines, and.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
They're all just barely connected to each other.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, barely connected, right, I'm glad it's loose connections like that. Yeah, like, oh,
let's tire everything together. Yeah yeah, kind of crap.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
That's what I enjoyed too, because you can run into
that where it's like, oh, we want to connect it
all and we're just gonna make them all know each
other somehow, and it's like, no, this kid is on
the game show now, and that one was on twenty
years ago, and now he's a bum or whatever.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Sorry, Donnie, come on, Donnie Smith or whatever his name is,
speaking out at the macy.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
All the character stuff is just like I like Julianne
Moore's stuff and her freak out with the lawyer or whatever.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Was really good with the lawyer and with the pharmacist
and with the oh yeah, with the pharmacy. Yeah. Our
friend from Starry Eyes, Pat Healy, Oh yeah, I could
do without the whole Tom Cruise thing, yeah, because he's despicable,
but you know, that's the character.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
But his intro being it's.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
The least interesting part for me, other than his reconciliation
with his dad or whatever. You call it Phillip Seymour
Hoffman loving it.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah. John c Riley's fun.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
The current whiz kid. I like that storyline. Yeah, when
he goes in to his dad towards the end of
the movie there.

Speaker 10 (50:21):
Yeah, you need to be nicer to me, little bit,
have to be nicer to me.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Qutt a bit.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I like the other random kid that like raps to
John c Riley in that one.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Hey Man, he tells him the whole story he literally does.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
It's great. I like John c Riley's plot too with
his Yeah, she's doing coke, coked out girlfriend Laura Walton.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Is that her name, Laura Walters?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah? I think so. I liked all of it, and
I liked the frogs. I love biblical plagues.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
I think I probably knew about it because your mom
and I saw that in the theater because I was like, oh,
we're definitely going to see this carse you know it's
in the theater, and really really liked it. I'm like, oh, yeah,
we're going. I want to say I probably knew about
the frogs. Maybe not. I don't know. I don't feel
like I was, oh my gosh, what's happening right now?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I didn't, and the noises of them slamming into his
car are and the grounge.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Oh god, I think you know the sound. I kind
of forgot how relentless the score is. It's just so
it's just like going the whole time and kind of.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
How what's pretty gnarly?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Honestly, what's the word I'm looking for? And I don't
know if it's the mix on that because it's kind
of an older DVD that I have. It seemed like
it was a little high in the mix. It was sad.
This score is unrelenting, but I like it in the ground.
I'm talking about the music. The music and how it
keeps just going and going and going for a good

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period of the film. It does not stop stop and
that's sort of the pace of the film, and it's
like ratcheting up and ratching up and ratcheting up.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Also, that Amy Man music in it.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
We your mom and I got that or your mom did,
I should say that CD like maybe even before we
went and saw the.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Movie, those songs play in your car all the time. Yep.
They do listen to those since I was a kid.
And then it was like, oh, actually they're from this movie.

Speaker 9 (52:28):
And I was like, well, they're not from the movie though,
in the soundtrack of Yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I believe most, if not all, of them were on
previous recordings of hers, and they were inspirations for the
film Yeah. Not necessarily for scenes in the film, although
she does say that Laura Walter's character says a line
that's from one of the songs, Yeah, John c Rellie,
no that I met you, would you object to never
seeing me again?

Speaker 4 (52:55):
What?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
She plays one of the songs. That's one of the
songs that she's blasting.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
In her listening to the songs when he shows up
there and it's blaring yeah so long, and all the
characters sing one of the songs.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
It's not good to stuff, it's not good stuff.

Speaker 10 (53:22):
Too.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I absolutely love that. That's good.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
I really liked it.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
I don't know, it's like, let's stop for a second
and realize that we're all watching a movie and these
are all characters and they're all singing this song by
Amy Mann for some unknown reason, and I just love it.
It doesn't pulled me out of the movie at all.
It just adds to it this different kind of level. Again,
not something that I can watch a lot. For one thing.
It's really long.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
It's long, yeah, and it's got.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Some dark themes and stuff. Most of the Tom Cruise
bits I would probably skip through.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, his character introduction is so crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
When I do watch it, though, I'm just like, ah,
this is such a good movie.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
It's very solid.

Speaker 10 (54:11):
This is a true story. It happened right here in
my town two years ago. A lot of people die
in a lot of really weird ways in the story,
but you're not going to find it in the news
or anywhere like that because the police and the top
people in this town were like so embarrassed that they
weren't able to solve it that they covered everything all up.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
So we've already hinted at our main highlight of the show,
and that is weapons.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Yay zact that's huh. I talked about last time, which
I was saying that I wanted to watch it. You did, Yeah,
in the last podcast. I'm pretty sure. Really, I think so,
or I'm just lying.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I don't know. Was the movie even out then.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
No, but I think that's when the trailers were releasing, okay,
and I was like, this looks insane.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I'll give you that. Yeah, I no. Same being on
Twitter is a curse for a lot of reasons. But
these movies get hyped up and hyped up, and then
I see it and I'm like, yeah's all right, this
one got good reviews. Yeah, and I don't care so
much about that. But like the people that I follow
that I trust, I appreciate their opinion. They're all saying

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it's good, Okay, got a good chance. I didn't care
for Barbarian that much. I mean, that had the same
kind of hype, if not war, and I was just like, Eh,
it's fine, Yeah, it's fine, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Weapons is much more solid than Barbarian. I like it
way more.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Oh yeah, ten times better. For a good part of
that is that copying of the Paul Thomas Anderson stuff
with the multiple not multiple storylines, it's all the same story,
but multiple points.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Of view, character stuff, a larger.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Cast, definitely a deeper mythos.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
I guess you get flashbacks and Barbarian and stuff.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I feel like Weapons is more built out in what's
going on, because it's like a whole thing all that
just more fleshed out.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Plus you have five or six characters to focus on
switch back and forth from, and I mean there's a
big switch in Barbarian from the main girl at the
beginning to justin long all of a sudden, halfway through
nothing like this, where you've got Julia Garner character, the
Josh Brolin character, the young Han solo character.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I didn't even realize that was him.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah, the junkie, the principle. Some of them are fairly short.
But we're hopping around from there, I see. I don't
even want to say points of view because it's all
in that red letter media thing they mentioned Rashamon, and
that's kind of the blueprint for these films or stories
that hop around and Rasamon. I believe. It's like, my

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point of view is much different than your point is.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
In yours, like that X Files episode.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Right, Yes, my story varies widely from yours because of
my perception and my personality and this and this and this.
That's not what's going on here. It's not like Julia
Gardner's making herself out to be a saint in her
version of this thing. And then Josh Brolin is like,
oh no, she's the cause of this. Yeah, we're not
seeing it that way.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
It's at a detail. You get more information from certain
perspectives or characters than from others.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Because they're all going through this at the same time.
But you can't follow everybody at the same time. I mean,
you can skip back and forth through the movie, which
I appreciate they don't do. You get each of their
stories in succession. So you get Julia Garner and then
you get Josh Brolin, and they interconnect and they pass
by each other and point of view. They're not negating
each other's stories.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Well, because like I'm doing spoilers, I don't care. We
in Julia Gardner's section, she sees her ex boyfriend, policeman
guy whatever. He comes in with his finger wrapped up,
and then when we get to his section, we see
why it's wrapped up.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
It's just like add information to like build out the
whole picture that you're trying to figure out. I guess yeah,
I like.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
It, and that maybe compares more to how fiction is told,
which they talk about on that Red Letter Media episode
as well. But that is nonlinear. Yeah, that's very nonmal
so that jumps around not only from characters to characters,
but time is out of sequence in that that's not

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happening in Weapons. I mean, you may restart you're going
to restart, You're going to go get back to a point.
But it's not like we don't start in the middle
with the Principles story when Aunt Gladys shows up and
then go back and reset.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
It's all linear because the other thing I was thinking
of was Trigger Treat, but that's also a it's kind
of nonlinear and it's also anthology anyways.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Yeah, but those stories are connected.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
They are connected. Yeah, what was they going to say?
I love Gladys, She's great.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Aunt Gladys. Is this years? Like you mentioned Long Legs?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yes, And I also saw someone say that these would
be fun double feature movie.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
This minute you said that, I was like, oh, yeah,
they're sort of doing the same thing here, because it's not.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Even just like Botched Girl Divas. That's what I was
kind of referring to them as. It's they're also like
infiltrate households in a way.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Oh no, not in a way.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Oh fully, they infiltrate households and do it through kids
and enchant people.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
In Long Legs, he uses those creepy lifelike dolls with
the orbs inside to basically zombify the people. Yeah, then
they do horrible things I mean, it's very very.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Similar, and they family annihilate.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
In this story, a family gets zombified like that, and
they go and they do weird things for this person lady. Yes,
it's extremely similar.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Actually, I like both of them, and I liked weapons a.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Lot, unlike Barbarian. This is one that I keep going
back to, keep thinking about since we watched it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yeah, me too, I'm like, oh, just thinking about certain things.
I really liked it. I liked all the character stuff,
which you already kind of talked about or at least
tell the movie set up I had seen. I didn't
see spoilers. I was actually really happy about it. But
I did see some discourse when it came out about
like oh, I don't like how they did the villain
or whatever, or like we watched it, I was like,

(01:00:22):
this is fine. I think it works perfectly. So whatever what.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Did people mean about not liking the villain?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
And now that we've seen it, I think it was
that people wanted it to be weirder than just Gladys
being like a witch. I think, I don't know, I
kind of like that she's just a witch. It's still
kind of pied piper Y in a way. Which I'm
happy about because that was my big theory when I
would watch the trailers and stuff and be like, this
just looks like the Pied Piper story.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I mean, what is she? I don't know what she is. Yeah,
they don't explain what she is, who she is. I
mean we get why she's doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I'm old and sick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Her methods aren't over explained or explained at all, which
is fine. I don't need it explained. I don't know
how you get any weirder than what she is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, I'm like she's she's taken people's hair or other things,
other objects, personal objects and being like enchanting them to
stay in a kid's basement. That's odd in itself, like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I don't know, with the intent of using them to
extend her life life.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Yeah, someone else, this is like kind of an off
I just like, how like kind of different some of
the things are, because like I'm calling her a witch,
don't know if she actually is, but I like that
if she is a witch, she's not one that It's
like I'm stealing these kids youth, and then I get
like all young again. She's old. Throughout the movie. She's
old and has weird makeup and has three braids of

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very thin hair on her head and wears a wig.
And I like her weird character design and stuff. I
just like that it's different looking.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
She's just trying to hold off death. I mean, she's dying.
She's just trying to say a live that's her motivation.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
She still does in a fantastic scene at the end
of the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
The humor I like the into the film makes me
think of the humor movie Barbarian. I think has a
little bit more direct humor. But that's yeah, this guy
did before he was in that comedy troupe. All I
kept thinking about at the end was Ferris Bueller's Stay Off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yeah, you said that when we were watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
When he goes trying to race back home and he's
running through people's houses a little different in this. It
still made me laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Gladys is Ferris Bueller, and I guess Josh Berlman is
his sister trying to get home. I know, I love
that end scene. I had heard about that, but I
was just like, I guess, we'll see how it goes.
And it was that little girl running through the like
jumping through the door and stuff. It was so good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Multiple kids running through windows in these houses. You see
the aftermath at the end, what this house is destroyed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
I love that Joshua Len's character walking in after Gladys
and the mom being like, there's a man in the
house right after this old woman and a bunch of
kids just ran through. It was so funny. It was
so good. I liked it. It's not super horrory. I mean,
it's still a horror movie, but I liked that. And
I did like the scary stuff because it's done pretty well.

(01:03:17):
Your mom, the haircutting and the yeah, jump scream.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Your mom had a jump scream. They showed Gladys a
few times during dreams and visions.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
And yeah scary.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yeah. So you mentioned earlier the other kid from Scary Stories,
and he plays the junkie in this. I knew he
looked familiar and I couldn't play it. And then he's
one of the bullies in Scary Stories to tell in
the Dark.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
I think, I said when we were watching, I'm pretty
sure he's the one that gets turned into the scarecrow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Yeah. Yeah, he was really good in this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
He was funny that when he like it's when he's
he does it twice, I think. But it's when he's
in the house and he realizes something and does that
like mouth click. Yeah, that was so good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
When he jumps up to turn around after the cop
starts screaming at him and he run away the second time. Yeah,
and when he breaks into the house. And then I
was waiting for it. I knew there was going to
be a jump scream there for your mom.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Because I'm like, where's mom and dad?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
There's people in there somewhere. She saw them earlier. Where
are they they are?

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Mom's yell got me more than that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I was like, that was an alien yell.

Speaker 9 (01:04:23):
Remember when you read that video.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
But yeah, I really liked this, like I said, ten
times as much as Barbarian. Oh yeah, actually, I'm already
kind of thinking about watching it again pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Oh. I want to get Will to watch it. I'm
gonna make him watch it because he's a big scaredy cat.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Maybe we can get everybody to watch it over there
at some point, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
On Halloween, since it's on a Friday or something. Oh yeah,
or that weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
It's a good idea. Oh and then the other I
mentioned and when we were talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Er oh, well, I'm dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Amy Madigan, yes, plays that is well. In Er, she
plays Oh she plays Oh it was the last season, Yes,
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
I'm thinking of Gray's Anatomy. I almost said the shrink
that's in Grays in Er, I'm having an I know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
It took me forever to realize. I'm like, she plays
somebody's mom who is at Sam? She plays Sam's mom mom. Yes,
in the last season she comes back and has to
take care of her. Sam has to take care of her.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
She's mean.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Yeah, she's awful, but I get her confused with the
actress who was on ear early on who falls for
Mark and goes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Cucko his like actual wife or whatever, like wait.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
No, no it's not her, it's uh yeah, his actual wife.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Because that's what I was going to say. I was
literally wait yeah, and then I went because she's in
Gray's Anatomy too, and she's Merediths therapist. She's ind a
lot of stuff. She's an uncle buck.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Yeap, she sure is. She's in Field, of which I
don't think you've seen. She's married to Ed Harris.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
When we were watching Weapons, when she started talking, I
was like, something's familiar, and then Mom was like, Oh,
it's Amy Madigan, and I was like, oh, I know
who that is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
I knew who it was before we watched the movie.
I had seen pictures of her character first, and then
I kept hearing people saying Amy Maddigan needs to win awards,
and I'm like, oh, shit, that's her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
That's a lot of special effects because it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Does not I mean that wig.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I think the wig, but I think they did something
to her nose. Oh maybe, I don't think that's her nose.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
She's wearing a lot of makeup because she's obviously not well,
so she's trying to cover that up. She has no hair,
so really fun the character touches that everybody gets. The
principal and his husband with the hot dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
And they're matching shirts and stuff like that. That scene
was actually kind of sad because it's like they're about
to have their little Disney I don't know, Marathon. Whenever
they're wearing their matching Mickey Mini.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Shirts, they're watching we've seen shows about that fungus that
yes ants the cordyceps. Yes very much plays into the
theme of the movie, and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
They're talking about parasites in Alex's classroom before the kids
go missing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Yeah, so all that stuff ties together.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
No, I like all the details, parasites, the.

Speaker 9 (01:07:21):
Weird, the kids running your mom Syntha yesterday about the
inspiration for that. The napalm girl, Vietnamese girl covered in
napalm running down the street.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Her arms are in like almost the exact same position.
There's that, there's the whole school shooting metaphor literal gun
and Joshuallen's stream.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Yeah, the tig.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
The sky.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
I kept seeing references to that, to the floating gun,
and I didn't realize it was from a dream sequence
because I'm like, huh, how is that going to figure
into this? But yeah, yeah, yeah, very much. School shootings.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Well, even the end of the movie that the kids
went back home but none of them are the same
and only a few of them started talking again and stuff.
Yeah that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
The kids running out though on that George Harrison song
Planet then, yeah, it's just super creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah, totally my I think the scene that creeped me
out the most was the hair cutting scene.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Yeah, that was done really well. I hated that that
jinky walk of un natural.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Movements with the arm like and You're like, oh, she's
in her car. It'll be fine. Car door opens off screen,
you hear it open.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Apparently she didn't lock her doors. I mean, I don't know,
most cars these days have auto locks on, but like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
I don't know. That was frightening, just being like, nah,
she's in her car, hopefully it's fine, and then you
just hear it open. She sleeps for the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Yeah, that scene actually kind of reminded me a lot
of Long Legs for some reason as well. I'm not
really sure why, but I just.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
There was a scene and now I can't remember which
one it was, but that I said when we were
watching that reminded me of It Follows. And now I
can't remember what scene it was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
It wasn't that one, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
I think, Oh, I think I know what it was.
It was when the police officer comes back out of
the house and like drags James back inside the junkie.
I think that's what it was, because the house is
very similar to the opening scene of It Follows, where
the girl runs out. I will relate everything back to
It Follows. I love that movie. Hey, I do too,

(01:09:27):
very solid movie and we'll definitely be rewatching.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Yes, all write anything else, I don't think. So, did
you want to talk about anything that you and mom
are watching that I'm not watching?

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Sure? My mom and I started Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Have fun?

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Yay?

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Not interested? Ever, I catch little bits of it when
I'm out there when you guys are watching it, and
it still doesn't really intrigue me. I don't know. Yeah,
and I'm not anti fantasy fiction dungeons and dragon stuff,
but I don't know, it just does not hold any
appeal to me. Yeah, it really doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yeah, I don't know. It kind of does because I
was talking about it with my friend, who is the
reason I started watching it, and I was like, I
don't know. I grew up reading Narnia. I had those
read to me, and then I read them myself, and
then I read The Hobbit in like sixth grade, and
not that they're the same by any means, but I
can like see the influences of those books in Game
of Thrones, and I'm just like, yes, I love fantasy.

(01:10:22):
This is so fun. I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I will.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
I'm sure you will. You guys have fun watching it,
all right, dude, Well, uh, maybe we'll talk again when
you graduate from college a couple more years. Thanks for
being on the show, Cleo. Yeah, hey, folks, don't leave
just yet. I'll be back after this last commercial break
to talk about a couple of movies that I watched

(01:10:47):
on my own, So keep listening, okay, folks, I'll try

(01:11:13):
and keep this brief. I just wanted to talk about
a few solo watches of mine that I'll relate to
podcast episodes that are either out already or will be soon.
I watched the new Naked Gun film with Liam Neeson
and Pamela Anderson for an episode of From the Files

(01:11:34):
of Police Squad that I also shared on Wake Up Heavy,
and so you've probably already seen that one. I mentioned
that I had seen a couple of Noddy Nun films
early on in this episode, and that was Alukarta and Satanico.
Pandemonium or an episode of The Projection Booth which is

(01:11:55):
set to air October twenty second of this year. Keep
your eyes peeled for that. I'm sure I will post
about it over on my Instagram page. And then I
watched the Devo documentary that is available on Netflix. I
previously mentioned that on the latest episode of Cambridgeen with

(01:12:19):
Sean and we'll most likely talk about it on the
November episode in a little bit more detail. That's pretty
much it for my watches. I would like to mention
that since Kleio and I recorded this, we did watch
death Proof, which I'm sure we will discuss the next

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time she and I talked together. All right, thanks so
much for listening. No medical updates for me, nothing's changed,
Still doing fine. Thanks for listening. Go check out Camber
Jem with Sean from the Files of Police Squad and
that upcoming Projection Booth episode. And don't forget.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
Anything can happen when you wake up Heavy, Like wow,
this has just been such a pleasure. I'm such a
lucky boy. I can't wait to go home.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Wake Up Heavy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
It is a weirding Way Media podcast