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Ai wood Sports Boots on the ground down to Detroit
at the Pistons Performance Center where we just watched the
first round in the NBA Draft. Shout out to Pistons
pr for having the media out hosting us. Got the
chance to do our work, get the socials done. They
even got us some food, so shout out to them.
But the first round a lot of international flavor, a
lot of defensive flavor, and you know what, there were
some surprising picks, but there's still a lot of good
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players on the board for the Pistons at thirty seven.
What were your biggest surprises of the first round and
what do you want to see the Pistons do in
the second round. Let me know, guys, Hey, let's rock
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Speaker 5 (01:39):
Ay And it's weird in a way, how little I
was invested in the first run of the draft compared
to a previous years past. I'm not saying I didn't
be here. I'm not saying that I didn't tune in
at times, but there was some flipping around, and uh,
I actually gonna be more locked in for the second round.
I'm like, oh yeah, every other year of my.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Life, I actually find myself a little more excited for
this second round seeing how the players fell. Or remember
we were talking heavily about how the nil could influence this.
We had no idea how the international player would influence this.
I saw like a lot of people from France getting drafted.
You know, there were a lot of international players that
were in this mix. And it's good to see that
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the game is expanding that way. And you know what,
I do believe that it helps and it bodes well
for teams like the Pistons, who have good scouts, who
have guys that can go in there and find those
diamonides in the rough, and obviously they're gonna be tested here.
A lot of people like Bobby Clintman or at least
what he promises to be. And now when you're looking
at this again another year, number thirty seven, there's some
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talent on the board there and there's one player who
I didn't even think would make it to the second round? Man,
do you know who that would be?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Would that be a Maxine Reynod or someone else?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I didn't think Maxine would go, but I knew he
had a chance. But Rashier Flemings, Oh yes, yes, I didn't.
Oh yeah, I just I don't know everything we were
talking about last night. I got a shout out the
media that was in the room as well. Shout out
to Pistons pr Shout out to that man. Just one
of the best in the business, is what I continue
to hear. Uh And as I've gotten the opportunity to
visit other arenas and such, you're really, really really sorry
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to understand why, but a Maria Saint Cole for the
Free Press was there. Cody Davis, Uh, part of the
Woo crew extended family.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
He was Detroit.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Who's shout out to Cody man Hunter Patterson of the
Athletic his first season with the Detroit Pistons was this
past season. Shout out to him. And you had some
of the older dignitaries there too, like Sean windsor so.
It was overall a really good night. I'll be remiss
if I don't shout out my guy, Eric Vincent from
Clutch Points, as well as Vince Ellis, the great, our
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very first NBA Draft show we had on this network.
Vince Ellis then Free Press Pistons beat reporter was there.
Now it's one of the big dogs. He's working on
Platinum Equity, the Who's the Who's last Night?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
That is for sure. I see a super chat in there,
and I'm gonna get to that in a second, because
I think I think that's a very forgotten I think
that's a good transition into what we're going to talk
about next. But I want to give a little bit
of a rundowt of what we're going to talk about
throughout the show. PFF put out a list of the
top ten coaches in the NFL. Where does Dan Campbell
fall on that list? He is on that list, which
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is good in and of itself, but where does he
fall We shall see. And also we are finally going
to attempt to get to the Jack Campbell and uh
Kelvin Shepherd stuff because Jack Campbell's very confident. Kelvin Sheppard,
Let's just say that there's an article that came out
about it, a lot of good quotes, a lot of
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things that are for sure promising. We're gonna get to that.
We're gonna get your phone calls in in the second
hour of the show, So uh, get ready, think of
what you want to chat with us about and get
your get those in three one, three, five, five, two, six,
three two two not quite yet we will let you
know when the phone lines are open. We may or
may not discuss Tigers briefly. But I don't concern myself
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with losses in a series when the Tigers could just
win the series today. So I won't be concerned unless
they lose today.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
But yeah, in even the yeah, you don't want to
see them lose the series. But even then, they've earned
a lot of good will from the fans, and it's
been cool to see the fans actually do something that
we've been calling for. Support your guys, when your team
proves to you that they are that deal and that
they can't overcome some adversity, a loss, a rough start,
a rough patch, go out there to support them, and
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it'll be able to see them, you know schools. He
still was dominant, but it wasn't his best stuff. To
see them right roster their feet after his age strikeout,
and then the next night as well, there was a
play that I forget the exact play, but I know
Nick captured it and it wasn't necessarily the best play.
And to see the way the fans stood to applaud
and to be able to pick them up, I was
just like, you know what, this is what it's about.
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It's not as if they're standing up and chearing for
a team that's had it for the basement of the
mob standings, but it's for a squad that they know
this is a World Series continning team and it's gonna
be interesting to see how they do the rest of
the rest of the way. Man, but shout out to
Detroit fans. For get beyond our Tigers.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
That one.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Shout out to Detroit fans, but uh, do you know
who will not be in Detroit unfortunately? Shout out Dante
five one with the swell. It's a super chat. We
gotta read it, and we got to talk about it
because it's relevant. Rip did Danny Wolf on getting drafted
to the nets? Obviously we were we Danny Wolf was
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somebody that we all wanted. We all love his talent.
It's not even just a Michigan thing. It's just his
talent always dictated that he was going to be a
first rounder. But there was always that fever dream of Ah,
are people concerned enough with his lack of refinement that
maybe he falls? He did not. He is unavailable to
the Detroit Pistons, and I'm a little disappointed. Not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I was, man, I was in the media room. It
got late. It was getting to the point where, you know,
since Pistons didn't have a first round pick, pr theist
stay home and they go in a room and in
the party with us and shout out to man. My
man was over there, like, yo, I swear to you.
It goes way faster when you're there. He's like, I'm
about ready to go to sleep. And it was like
pick fifteen. We were all in there like by pick fifteen, like,
oh my gosh. But when we started seeing like Jace Richardson,
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when we started seeing Danny Wolf, when I started seeing Maxine,
when I started seeing you know, some of these players
continue to fall, all of us started to kind of
park up a little bit. The conversation picked up, and
we were just talking about the fact that Mark sinkofo
the Free Press, and we were just talking about the
fact that, yo, is it a real possibility that both
Jason Danny slide. I was like, man, the Big ten
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was having such a good a good round. And how
many picks did you confirmed? Was it six or seven?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
And the Big ten seven? Big ten? It would be
two Rutgers, one Maryland, Derek Queen one two Illinois, a
Michigan State and a Michigan.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
It was like big ten in the international first round,
and you know, to see them get picked, I text
you we were in lockstep. I was like, bro, sad
for me, happy for Danny Wolf.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Happy for Danny Wolf. But but honestly, and I want
to get to you JB. Because Jace Richardson. Obviously you
love him as you should. He was great for Michigan State.
He was a one and done, a great prospect, but
there were some concerns about his height. Are you surprised
that he filled at twenty five?
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Filled to twenty five, but also surprised that he actually
got picked in the first round. I thought he would
have been a day to round two type of person.
But the Magic saw something in him, and obviously tom
Izzo seen something in him as well too, trying to
push him out of college to go pro. He's like,
there's nothing more I can teach you. You need to
go now, And I guess it was a perfect opportunity.
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He's in a good spot, especially where the Magic are
after this current trade. I don't know how much playing
time he'll get. He'll definitely have to prove that. But
if anything, you know, G League is still an option
that he can you know, pursue to help get him
on a spot in the Magic roster.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
And you know, talking about the G League, I'm glad
that it no longer has some of the connotation that
it previously did. You know, players used to believe you
go there and you might be there forever. Now you
know that you have a direct connection with your team
with the invention of the two way contracts and player designation.
So I like what's going on with the G League.
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It allows you to be able to truly have a
project player, because a project player shouldn't be somebody who's
just sitting on the indio bench and then still don't
really know what to do even in practice. I just
continue to think about Darko showing up like, oh I
thought I was, you know, showing up drunken and smoking,
because I thought that's what a bad boy was. I'm
like the boys that like, just come on, man, you
got it. I like what the G League is. It
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allows targeted, focused attention to detail. We talk about our
own number thirty seven overall pick last year, and it's
interesting we got that pick again. This year Bobby Clintman.
He's a player who, through injury and through just trying
to get more acquainted with this game, he's been able
to play in the G League and have some success.
And I actually appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I think that Jace Richardson actually has a bit of
an opportunity on this Magic team just based off of
what they need. And I understand it would be more
ideal if Jace Richardson was more of a peer point guard.
But he's you know, they've got a lot of they
got Franz, They've got Desmond Bane, They've got Wendell Carter,
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They've got Powell, Ben Carrow, a lot of like forty
center type players.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You know where I believe their mind is that. Honestly though,
when they were showing his highlights, you saw something of
potential that I believe they can take to another level.
He looked like Gary Harris on defense, on the hair,
to the defensive stance, to literally sticking to the player
like glue. And what did you see in this draft?
There were several times where the pit pick the player
didn't make sense from an offensive standpoint. You're like whoa, whoa, whoa?
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This is like one time, they're like, your player is
still kind of offensively raw, but defensively he's one of
those guys, but defensively potential. You could see the way
this player could be defending the rim and protecting the paint,
and it was interesting to see that teams were doing
that in the same light of you just saw what
a sar Thompson step out onto the stage and he
was the one that got the out of approval, the
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nod of the cap from Jalen Bronx like, no, he
is the real deal, and it didn't. I don't care
like people to bawl. He needs an two to three, bro.
He's a weapon on defense. Do you know how long
it's been since the Detroit Pistons have had a weapon
on defense? We gotta go back and say, man, I
might make the hair on the back of your neck
rays flannel.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
It was an absolute weapon. I do believe that sar
Thompson will be a guy when it's all said and
done that we're saying this some similar things about him,
the way he's able to affect and shut and shut
down entire sides and halves of the court when he's
defending ISO players. So man, that's what makes me excited
as well about what we still have in front of
us in this draft because players, because these teams they
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reached on or I won't say reached on. They valued
the international they value the big ten, they value the
defensive players, a lot, a lot of good talent to
still drop to the Pistons.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I see will he be over there, ye Willis Willie is. Uh,
he's probably more passionate about the draft this year than
anybody in this room. So uh, he's been doing his
homework too, absolutely, So uh, take it away. Your thoughts
on the draft overall.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
Balance, Like you said, big ten of international players, it's
been real different because I give it a C minus.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
First five picks brilliant.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
I mean you got a I mean you got Billy,
You got to the Jazz, which is I didn't inspect
that coming of course. Cooper flag number one overall, wells
well deserved, and dyal And and Dalen Harper, but the
most important one, Philadelphia got a steal with VJ. Edge
Edgecombe solid. He's a he's a dog from Baylor for
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the Big twelve man saw the pickup and and Jeremy
fears for he's an another combo guard that Joe Dumar's
pick up. Who's who you know took that position right now.
So Jeremy fears that's a good pick of Oklahoma. He's
a very good point guard and that would help out
because since Dante Murray was towards Achilles this this season,
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so they needed a point guard for that. So I
thought it was pretty solid. And I'm happy for Danny
Wolf and I ain't even nobody suspect him going to
the first round. I mean, as we talked about second round,
and it'd be a good pick Danny Wolf did. Danny
will Gota picked up twenty seven, and you know that's
solid one. And Chase Richardson I thought we'd get I
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thought in the mock draft he would be top ten
and doing his size, but I don't know, but he
got picked number ten.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
You know, I didn't think it was gonna be that
that low of a drop.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
I mean, I never I never thought he'd be lower
as a spect.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Be top ten magic pick man. But it's such an
Orlando Magic pick. And I think that they're doing some
good things, really do some small our stuff over there,
and they shored up that backcourt, their depth, their defense,
you know, they've been able to get a lot of
good out of young players. You talk about some of
the players we talk about now that are older for them,
those were players that they were relying on prior the
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guys that they drafted. So they got something right with
that formula. Man, I really like the magic. And I
hate to say it.
Speaker 8 (14:22):
I got one question if you chill, gentlemen, Yeah, what
the pis? Get what in the second round? They got
a thirty two pick.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Soon no apologized, thirty seventh pick, Yeah, thirty seven, And
what's gonna be got here?
Speaker 9 (14:37):
Big on wing.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I'm not gonna lie Willie, Maxine or chast.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
I was gonna say. I was gonna say Maxine Orrisher.
Fleming not gonna be there. We thought he was gonna
maybe go in the in the high twenties though, you know,
I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Isn't he in trade up territory already? Isn't Cher Fleming
already in trade up territory? It's second round? Yeah, a
couple of second rounders and you can.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Go and get rid of I know, I know, but
the reason I mentioned, But here's the thing. He's in
the second round. So it's not like this Looney Tunes's
opinion that he might fall to thirty seven. Is it
a bit of a pipe dream? Sure, sure it's a
pipe dream, but it's a pipe dream is allowed to
be there.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I see the Kobe Brayer love as well. I've seen that.
I've seen that a lot, overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly. But I don't know,
Like I do believe the Pistons will have their opportunity
to draft Maxine right now. I will do. I think
they're gonna have that. And there are some people who
are all in, and then there's some people who are
just like No, I don't think that he's a guy.
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I haven't seen too many people in the middle, And
I wonder where the Chat family lies to guys. Definitely
put in the chat who you want the Pistons to
pick if you think at this point in time it
makes sense for them to trade up, because we know
this Trajan Lane has said his philosophy and his draft
is best player available. That means that probably not their
like you to trade up, even if we think that
there is a player on because I don't think any
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of these players are going to be necessarily ceiling raizers
for the Pistons. But as it relates to their floor.
I think it does help from a depth perspective, and
it helps from flexibility. They got some people on their bitch,
within their depth at the end of their roster who
they have to make some contract decisions on over the
this year and the next year, you know, including Sasser
next year.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
You've got some really interesting players, Robbie, Robert Sloppy, Toppenheimer
my favorite. Actually mentioned another guy. What about Ryan Kulkbrenner.
I'm not, like, I get it that he doesn't really
have the ability to stretch the floor like a Max
scene Reynat and Max Seine. To me, Max Seine, his
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biggest attribute with me is like he could step right
in and at least play the pick and pop very proficiently,
or he did at Stanford very proficially at Stanford. But
Kulkbrenner is a rim protector. He blocks a lot of shots.
He's you know, can score down low, probably better than
anybody who's available right now. I'm not saying he's perfect,
but at thirty seven, you're not gonna get a perfect.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I would go for maximum at thirty SEU. I think
that he's the player that should be there with all
you having to really do anything move. I just don't
think what shift lean is going to reach. I know JB.
Sure go to you soon, JB. But I'm wondering if
if you can get if you can trade back into
the second round. If you see a player that you
believe can be a specialist, we know that the way
that J. B. Bicker Staff coaches. And it was interesting
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to be in these press conferences and I asked a
question to Isaiah Stewart and the Jalen Durant and separate
press conference is about you know what's driving the difference
behind this team right now? It seems like you guys
are showing up in a lot of different areas, a
lot of different players are basically pulled a weight, and
they say that JB. Bickerstaff he came to them and
was like, straight up, look, this is Detroit. Look at
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y'all history. If you just stay in your lane, play
to your strength, you can be what you call a
star in your lane. And it's been interesting to see
these guys do this. And so if you see a specialist,
someone who you know can't protect the rim, is that
somebody that you say, you know, what if he falls
a little bit lower. We just go back and we
get that because right now the Pistons have the boaster
for today. This Eastern Conference is open, and I know
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a lot of people don't count on a lot from
young players, but when you look at last year, we're
starting to see more and more young players contribute by
the end of the season.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
If I see Fleming or Raynod at thirty seven, I'm
extremely happy. Absolutely. If I see Kulk Brenner, I can
definitely rationalize it and be like, he's got a particular
set of skills, but it's just.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Nicholas duncans.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
H I personally, I like, yeah, showed a lot to
his entire Crowch career, especially this year you led that
Wisconsin offense. He can shoot, he can take it up
off the dribble, he can score all three levels. He's
not awful defensively, and even though he is one of
those older players, you've been seeing this renaissance of these
older players that have been going in the second round
in the late first round that have really panned out
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in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
I think that john tonj could be of those guys.
Considering that he is just.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
Such a overall like good prospect. He doesn't have like
something he necessarily does at an elite level, but he
does a lot of things well, and that's something that
in the second round, I think that it could be
a nice ad, especially when you're thinking about the guard
depth off the bench that we don't have right now
with no Schroeder.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
No Beasley, and no THJ.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
So I think that John tonj would be a very
interesting ad, especially because he's six' five and he's a,
wing so it's kind of like very similar To, sasser
but more in like the forward shooting guard role instead
Of sasser as a point.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
GUARD i don't hate that at, all because if you're
talking about a second round, pick at least with, me
because none of them are, perfect we can all agree on.
THAT i want somebody who was, very very productive in
college And John tanjay he was an absolute demon For
wisconsin last year and justin you already basically laid out
his skill set AND i don't have too much to
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add to. That but if you're talking best player, available
LIKE i. Could if IF i heard tonight with a
number thirty seven pick that pistons Like John, TANJA i
would be like. COOL i wouldn't be flipping like doing back,
Well i'm not doing backfoots for anybody at thirty seven
with with with all would But john to, okay, fair
he might be the. One but if you're saying he's
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my third or fourth choice tonight and that it would
be a perfectly nice consolation, prize one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
All about chancel in.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
There because you you you want one of these. Players
there has to be somebody who you know is a,
specialist somebody who you believe has high potential and your
development staff can get them uh to that, potential or
somebody you know's gonna come in and be able to
contribute at the back end of your. Roster lack Of
Dennis jenkins when it had to call On Dennis jenkins
at the end of the season When kate and some
of the other players were injured and, out he stepped
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up and he played. Good so not only was he
locking down like players of the week and for the
cruise because he was, saucy he would the freaking league.
Up Denis Jenkins. Man he was. Funny then when he
got called up to The, pistons he did everything to
ask them to do, everything whether it was, hey your first,
minute your first seconds of the game is gonna be
the last thirty seconds of the game. Too there were
times where he was literally the backup guard When sasser
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was playing more of those minutes in front of. Him
SO i like those. Players they do. Matter and you
talk about a long, season The pistons will utilize load.
Management i'm gonna say that, again The pistons will utilize load.
Management when we saw at the end of last, season
you will see at the end of this next, season
and you're gonna see them probably do it even more
to keep those legs. Fresh cade And beasley's legs were
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in the priority waste dumpster somewhere for the. Playoffs let's
we can be honest about. That the athleticism was, down
the snappiness was, down and their shots were all. Down
we all know, who anyone who's hooped or even watching
them for a long, time what that. Is and that's
Where i'm hoping that if they do and that's not
a bad pull by, you justin if they go with
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a player that that, yes it's a player that can
contribute similarly Like Dannis jenkins and give them some flexibility
when you know that you got some decisions to make
with the rest of this roster this all season and Next.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yeah, NO i think this is gonna be.
Speaker 10 (22:04):
Interesting AND i do you have one more name to
throw out there as? Well AND i apologize for my.
Lateness my dog decided to be a great idea to
rip our entire couch open this, morning so.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
That was a great.
Speaker 10 (22:16):
Time but another guy like a lot is a dear
thiarro From, arkansas AND i know he can't necessarily shoot
the three that well or necessarily at, all but he's
got a really nice mid. Range he's very good, defensively
and he's a great. Rebounder and Like kuo had, said
when you're picking in this second, round you're looking for.
Specialists this guy is an elite defender and he's a great,
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rebounder and that is something that you can always use
as a backup big in THE. Nba AND i think
that a throw will have be able to cut out
a nice role on AN nba roster being their backup defensive.
Big AND i think that that would be a nice
versatile piece that The pistons could utilize going down the
stretch and give you the flexibility if you want to
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get rid Of beast.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
TOO i think that before they even get rid of
a Beef, stu they would just Allow Paul reid to.
Walk you, know you have some other front court positions
there that you can affect and still Keep isaiah's toue
at least for a year or two to help coach
up some more of the dog. Pound you, KNOW i
like that aspect of it because it does take someone like.
Him you talk About Jayalen duran stepping too the podium and, saying,
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YEAH i gotta miss SOME i was playing on some soft.
Ish it takes somebody in your locker room to tell
you that to your. Face and there's only a couple
of players in our locker Room Habby, Beasy stu and
k who probably told him that to his, face along
with J. B, bickerstaff along With Jalen durham who wants
to continue to get better as a. Player and so you,
know it's some great points, here, though, man because there
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are some players THAT i do believe add to the
floor of what this team can. Be and another player
THAT i, Know anton is really really really big on
jacksonmoney out Of north To Kioto. State and this is
the reason why forty from. Three that's a skill set
that translate it doesn't. Matter it doesn't matter if you're
playing in a church league gym that has no three point,
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six tens?
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Undersized as a center.
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That is undersized six ten is the center is. Undersized,
okay so he's also not. Athletic he doesn't have good
Enough later.
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Speaker 6 (30:31):
Quickness he's honestly.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
Fat so but do you think you so you you
would take skill over.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
ATHLETICISM a, No i'll take skill and athleticism would be
at one. ANOTHER I i'd rather take athleticism. Overseer, yeah
because you can develop.
Speaker 13 (30:49):
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CURRENT nba like like you're seeing all those the Herb
jones of the world who come in and they're just
like super, athletic and then they come in and they
do developed into very very good players because they have
the athleticism down at THE.
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Quickly and so that's.
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athletic and he's not elite at anything but, rebounding a
skill that will be overshadowed by the fact that centers
are bigger and more athletic than.
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i would actually be. Upset that's.
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Understandable anytime Jan broom played anyone of value in, college
he did not play.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
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Danny Wolf glad he got drafted twenty two and sixteen
and he went to the championship. Game he didn't play,
well but he Gave state twenty five or. Fourteen, OKAY
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Double he just abas double double since twenty.
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True thirteen two like BECAUSE i don't know how right.
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dominate the. Paint talking About Jani, broom this exchanges think
so he says he's another six nine. Center D hint
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Yo, wow that's the, Difference. Veric the difference is with
With Janni. Broom and this is my biggest problem with.
Him though he moves like he's a thirty five year old. Man,
yes he and he and he jumps in his vertical
leap is five year old. Man and that's and again
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good college. Player But i'm more on the side of
a justin with this, One Willy. BE i completely understand
that when you look at what he did At. Auburn you're, like,
damn this guy was a, great, great great college. Player
BUT I i WOULD i wouldn't like to lose my,
mind BUT i would be a little up.
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he's Said Luca garza could probably blow By.
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Fuck uh shout out to everyone sending his super chance
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going because we're not gonna Talk Jack campbell quite, yet
we're gonna talk about Another campbell Named dan who is
the head coach of The Detroit. Lions AND pff just
put out a list yes of the top ten returning
head coaches in THE, nfl and for those of you
who are on audio, Only i'll just read it really.
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Quick number, One Andy reid number, Two Sean payton number,
Three sean McVay number, Four John harbaugh number, Five Mike
tomlin number, Six Jim harbaugh number, Seven Kyle shanahan number,
Eight Nick sirianni, Nine Dan, campbell and then Ten kevin Step.
FANSKI i WILL i will dish it over to you
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guys really quick first BEFORE i give my. Opinion is
nine a fair ranking For Dan? Campbell and do you
have any other thoughts like who he's ahead, of who's behind?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Of absolutely, Not.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
WILLY.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
B what do you all? Right go, Ahead WILLY.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
B what are you.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Nine?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Why what is going on right?
Speaker 8 (39:38):
Now why you Disrespect Dan campbell who brought The lions
back from the dead and went to the best season
Of lions history fifteen to two out eight In. Huncherson
so that, case what beast meat is why you rank
him number? Nine he should be top five at least
put him in three and two because give him his damn.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
RESPECT i think.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
That's a little, aggressive will. YOU i can't.
Speaker 10 (40:03):
LIE i think that the entrance to the club is
a Super bowl for that top. FIVE i think you
got to win a Super, bowl so AND i think
that it should just Go sirianni Behind.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Tomlin everyone should drop down a spot And.
Speaker 10 (40:18):
Dan campbell should be above McDermott And shanahan BECAUSE i,
MEAN i just think That shanahan can't win big. GAMES
i don't Think Dan campbell has the sample size for
you to say, that, YET i think that, you like
he is known As Kyle shannon's known as being a
big game. CHOKER i think McDermott's known as being a
big game.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Choker Mcveigh's.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Sean m.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Under.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
McVeigh, yes.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
BUT i think you should be the first coach without
A Super.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Bowl what is this? Though is? It is it like
a careers thing or is it about what you've done
over the last two.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
YEARS i think there's a lot of ways you can interpret.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
It seems like a, Career like that's What i'm. Saying
what are we talking?
Speaker 5 (41:00):
About he's got a Super?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Bowl?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Though about the career from a very recent Super. BOWL
a very recent Super bowl and A Super bowl appear
and he saved he like Saved Jared goff back when
After Jared goff had a bad, Rookie jeff saved The.
LIONS i, understand but, like come, on, dude it's A Super.
Bowl it's a Super. Bowl disrespect Super bowls all you.
(41:22):
Want i'm not Disrespect you said it happened a million
years ago with The stacks.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
One is that true or?
Speaker 4 (41:29):
No it was twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
One it was a very good. Route but The lions
on the, right rosy twenty one was in this, decade
this decade and don't look.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Good it was in this. Decade, True you just don't
want to stay, out all?
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Right Dan campbell's number? One put him Over Andy, Reid
rightmpbell's the what's the concept of?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
This because it come, on, dude then that put everybody
who's had some type of modicum of success Over Dan.
Campbell oh the last few, seasons how many of these
coaches are you realistically you're telling, me you're telling me right,
now you're Taking if you got to decide who's the
coach of The Detroit, lions you're Taking sean McVay right,
now will be it's Over Dan. Campbell, well it's.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
All, right hold, on hold, on hold, on guess that's
What i'm talking.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
About care about his champions for twenty twenty? One if
it's not gonna do nothing for The lions, Today, guys
If Dan campbell is still kicking his tail, today kool.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
Aid this isn't the conversation of who do you rather
have for The lions. Now i'm not trading coach right,
now and It's sean. McVay would rather have? Coach Would
i'd rather Have Dan campbell The. Lions i'm not trading
him BECAUSE i know what he is for The. Lions
But sean McVay is an offensive. Gourbu he's was revolutionary
for THE. Nfl he's basically, birthed along With Kyle, shanahan
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this new wave of young offensive coaches like The kevin
o'connells of the, world to really. Exist i'm A sean McVay.
SLAPPY i think he's one of the best. COACHES i
think he'd go to The hall Of fame right now
if he, retired AND.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
I would say that. Too, yeah but it hasn't shown
up the last two, years and that's something that you
AND i both have to and when it's Come, listen,
bro The lions literally beat them in the, playoffs literally
beat them in the playoffs like, That that's All i'm talking, About,
like what did.
Speaker 10 (43:11):
You say with a better? Roster i'm The lions at
a better. Roster so now that, matters, GUYS i, mean
it always. Matters Like i'm gonna be Like I'm i'm
a kumbaya between the two of, you BECAUSE i think
both you are right in some. REGARD i wouldn't try
there's no better other. Coach i'd rather have coach The
lions Than Dan. Campbell BUT i don't think that's the.
Conversation the conversation is who is the better. Coach and
the way that this list is, constructed to, me it
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reads that it's about their. Careers and when it comes to,
Careers Dan campbell hasn't won A Super. Bowl, yeah if
you can say, that he has had a stacked roster,
before like all of these, Guys and, yeah he dealt
with the injuries last year with his stack, roster and
that's not on.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Him that's not his.
Speaker 10 (43:47):
Fault you can't penalize them for. It but at the
end of the, day all these guys have Won Super
bowls that are ahead of, him AND i think that
that's once he went To Super BOWL i will easily
put him over, McVeigh.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
Then there's no argue at all at. All but the
last two times THAT i know Was Dan Campbell Verus sean.
McVay i, KNEW i knew confidently who was going to
get the better in that. Matchup that's What i'm talking.
About so if you're telling me who's the man for
the job right now to actually have their team in,
Contention i'm Putting Dan campbell above a lot of these
guys on this. List if you're telling me take it
for the, careers then, sure let's all grow a little
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bit of great here and.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
Talk about what these guys have dog make sure that
we can talk about the whole like Super bowls.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
Forever sean McVay gonna have The rams this. Year are
they going to be better than The? LIONS i don't.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
Know they're probably gonna win the.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Division and for as stacked as The lions have, been
it's Been Dan campbell who got. That his, offense they're
on drafted, players yes or? Not come yes or? No,
Dude i'm just does this?
Speaker 6 (44:44):
Matter, like?
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Okay so then where do we parted the conversation with The?
Lions it's not about being. Slappy if they're actually doing great,
thing they, are so, okay all?
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Right it's his own.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
Homegrown, players his, offense his selections of the. Coaches i've
think it's just a little bit disrespectful To Dan campbell
when you just push Button sean McVay For, yes you
took the, cap you won yourself.
Speaker 17 (45:08):
The Accomplishment ian, DANCE i, Said hall Of. Fame, yes,
Okay ivan. Danced he went into twenty twenty. One, yes
stacked roster a lot to his, favorite a whole.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Lot and since it hasn't been, THAT i haven't seen
him be able to do What Dan campbell's done through the.
Adversity He's they've been.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Good they made it farther the playoffs last year than The.
Lions they've been.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Decent they almost they Won, okay, fine, fine and they
went further than The lions because of what Dan sean
McVay being better Than Dan, campbell or because or because Of,
Listen Brandon graham says that if, healthy he believes that
The lions would have beat The. Eagles we're sitting here
talking about a squad that lost all of their defense.
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EFFECTIVELY i, mean that's what we're talking, about and that's
what we're talking.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
About go, Ahead.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
JESSE i, mean in all fairness of the, rams they
had to deals of.
Speaker 10 (46:05):
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Alls i've retired in the middle of his, career and
they had to hit a rookie parlay to be able
to keep their defense attacked with.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
Welcome coaches in the.
Speaker 10 (46:18):
League, now not just how is how an excuse for using,
hunch but it's not an excuse for them Losing Aaron.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
Donald like it is the same. Thing like it is
the same, thing and you can't.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Go they entered their season like, That. Bro they weren't
entering the season depending on. Him they had their Squad day,
One that's what it. Was they, said we're strapping up,
you strapping up this our. Squad this is what we
believe is gonna get it. DONE i don't believe that
they showed up day one, saying, oh we're gonna be
behind the Lowly. LIONS i don't believe. THAT i believe
they started that season believing that they're gonna be better
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than The Detroit. Lions that's WHAT i believe they. Thought
they didn't start. That, see we started the season knowing
What Aden hutchinson was for The Detroit, lions what impact
he was supposed to have for The Detroit. Lions as
literally the only legitimate pass. Rusher how do we know?
That because when he was gone it was, really really.
Tough they had to generate this thing from three freaking.
Levels we're still complaining and asking for another pass.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Rush, LIKE i JUST i don't, know.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
MAN i think that there's a little bit OF i
believe That Dan campbell gets a little bit disrespected these
things because of the history and the overall careers of these.
Guys if you're telling me this is just about the crew, rankings,
fine minus may be a little bit Of Jim, Harball,
FINE i can see. That but if you're telling me
about Since Dan campbell has entered this, league AM i
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putting some of these coach or not into the? League
But i've been head coach of The Detroit. Lions AM
i putting some of these coaches over?
Speaker 5 (47:41):
Him i'm.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
NOT i think that's.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
FAIR i think that's absolutely.
Speaker 10 (47:44):
FAIR i, mean they've been one of the best teams
in football for the last two, years so he deserves
to be in that pastal if you make it that
minute show of a. Timeline BUT i think that this
is obviously a career, list because if it wasn't a career,
list why Would Sean payton be up there, well.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
And that's in Kol. Ay that's WHERE i THINK i
thought we were gonna be Will kumbaya about. This even
if we weren't About sean, McVay i would Put Dan
campbell right now ahead Of Sean, Payton Mike, tomlin And
John harbaugh because when we're talking about coaches that have
Won Super bowls a decade, ago more than fifteen years,
ago and haven't have really had a very shaky playoff.
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History since those are the names we talk about JB's,
MOVE i actually have the a couple of things in
slack THAT i want to present when it comes to those.
Guys oh yeah's start with the playoff record Since Super bowl,
win if you, would all, Right, so since they won
their their their Super, Bowl Sean payton's five and eight
in the, Playoffs Mike tomlin is five and ten in
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the playoffs and eight and eleven overall as as record
in the, playoffs And John harbaugh is four and. Seven
McVeigh since His Super, bowl what would he be like
two and two or one and two or something like.
That But sean McVay Super bowls four years. Ago these
guys as Super bowls Were John harbaugh's was like thirteen years,
ago And Sean Payton's My tomlins were over. FIFTEEN i
would Put Dan campbell ahead of these, Guys and, honestly these,
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guys they've been consistent winners throughout their. Careers if you
have these guys as your head coach and you have good,
rosters you're going to make the playoffs most of the.
Time but you want to talk about recent playoff, flameouts
The saints Under, Peyton steelers Under, Tomlin ravens Under. Harbaugh
that's what they've kind of been known for since they've
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made since they've won Their Super bowls what seems like
a lifetime.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Ago but in recent, Season i've only Seen sean babe
the same.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
Way but that's just a few, years. Dude that's the
Thing sean he wanted in this freaking. Decade it's been.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Free i'm never going To i'm never going to turn
an eye to. That i'm not saying that the guy
does not deserve to be A hall Of fame. Coach
understand what we're talking. About i'm not stating that the rings,
matter especially in, football because the stack team does not always.
Win we saw what happened with The, patriots AND i get,
that SO i give him a lot of. Credit the
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issue is. Here over the last few, years Since Dan
campbell has been the, man it's okay to be able
to say that these narratives have shifted and. Changed and
it's interesting to see how these lists do not give
a crowd about What lions players and coaches are doing
all throughout their, careers and they'll go instantly and take
a rookie or a brand new coach and put them
above The, lions and all of a, sudden that narratives
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is out the. Window And i'm supposed to, well but cool,
ad you can't argue because then you're gonna be a. Slappy,
now all of a, sudden we turn that around Where
Dan campbell's kicking people's. Butts he doesn't even give a
frick about taking, names and all of a, sudden it's, no, no, no.
No and we know that if It's Dan campbell, shouting
if they head the, head he's owning. Him but you,
know and he's you know the, records we see what
he's doing with The, lions and he's had The lions
better than The. Rams but but, no here just bow. Down,
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ah that's stuff don't sit right with. Me i'm, sorry
it just doesn't. Well but that's WHY i wanted To
if it's, career, FINE i agree with the. List maybe
move them up a spot and move someone else. Down
but if you're talking about Since dan kembll's been a head,
COACH i don't agree with the li.
Speaker 5 (51:03):
WELL i think that Super bowl appearances and wins recently
overtake head to. Head but let me let me just
just say, this and this is WHERE i think we
can all. Kumbaya does it make you happy That kevin
O'Connell's not on this, List Matt lafleur is not on this,
list Dan quinn's not on this, List sean mcdermot's not
on this.
Speaker 6 (51:21):
List they so, yeah it.
Speaker 5 (51:23):
Does they don't blow they're They're kevin O'Connell's been coach of,
Vid Kevin Stefan coach of The year, twice Dan quinn's
led a team to A Super bowl, appearance and So
Zach taylor's let it team to A Super bowl. Appearance
sean McDermott's led The bills to uh a time of
winning that they haven't had since the early, nineties And
i'm not saying that's that makes them great. Coaches i'm
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just saying that all of those coaches at least have
a plethora of. Accomplishments Even Matt lafleur won a couple
of division titles When Aaron rodgers was the. Quarterback And
Dan campbell is ahead of all of. Them the only
people who he's really behind are guys who are either
have recent like like Like Nick. Sirianni for, EXAMPLE i
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can say in my heart of hearts THAT i truly
believe That Dan campbell is a better football. Coach but
the last three seasons With, sirianni you've got a three
point loss to The Dynastic chiefs in The Super, bowl
a twenty twenty three flame out which was proven to
be more of an, anomaly and then A Super bowl.
Win it's not like there's a lot of coaches who
have a ton of accomplishments who are not even on
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this list or who are number, ten who they Think
Dan campbell is better.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
Than without the Super bowl. Win and even if they
got there but they didn't get the Super bowl, win
who would you have as a better? Coach. Syrianni over
the last three Year sirianni or.
Speaker 5 (52:38):
MCGUNNY i think Mcvay'son that's that's the. THING i Think
sirianni's got some red. Flags but at the same, TIME
i can't argue the.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
Results but that's and that's What i'm talking about. There
that's What i'm talking about right, there and that's what
matters to. ME i have no problem. With And i'll
say it. Again i'll See Cortes whitlow in the chat
kule missing a. Point can't dumb It Flannel, sam can't
dubit dine any more than, This, lol dumb down what
and what? Point is there a? Miss there's no argument
as it relates To Dan, campbell who's been in THE
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nfl As Detroit lions head. Coach if you're going to
go and make a power ranking of your head coaches
Since Dan campbell has been, in there are some of
these guys who's gonna be above and you have to
put them Above sean. McVay you would have. To if
you're talking about the, careers THEN i understand the way
this list. Goes but that's just the way THAT i see.
Speaker 11 (53:28):
It.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
Man when you're talking about the, Career Dan campbell's always
going to be an individual that's gonna have to prove
just a little bit, more especially being From. Detroit some
almost feels like he's gonna have to win two Super
bowls BECAUSE i can hear it. Now as soon as
he wins, one people are already ready to bury Hes.
Speaker 5 (53:43):
BALL i think if he gets a Super, BOWL i
think that he's gonna be like a mad.
Speaker 4 (53:48):
MAN i think this head coach, definitely you hope for,
That you hope for. That But i've seen a lot
of narratives here Watching detroit sports over the, years talking
with T false over the, years you see a lot
of this type of. Stuff you hear a lot of this,
Stuff you hope for, better and you get quite disappointed
time and time and time. AGAIN i do believe that
it will be something that will be, Magnificent BUT i
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wonder how long does that carry over for him as
it does for some of the other coaches that we
see on this.
Speaker 5 (54:14):
Lit, well and this is actually a good. Question, WELL
i don't think it's a good point because if you're
comparing mcveigh's what he's like history to, OTHERS i think
that's a little. Misguided Chuck, Brewer So, sam time matters
but how do you draw that line when it's current
in ancient. History here's Where i'll draw the. Line three
full seasons have passed since The rams won Their Super
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bowl in twenty twenty. One when it comes To John,
harbaugh it's been over a. Decade when it comes To
Sean payton And Mike, tomlin it's been over fifteen. Years to,
me if it's been a decade or, more you can
call that ancient. History and also not just that many
many times you can point to a plethora of. Examples
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i'll start With Mike tomlin of multiple just bad playoff.
Losses think about, this who Did Tim tebow's only playoff
win come Against Mike? Tomlin Tims Mike Mike tomlin led,
Team AND i Like Mike Mike tomlin led team lost
to A Blake bortles Led jaguars team at home in the,
playoffs A Mike tomlin led team led to lost to.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
The Big Tom brady Led patriots team should have lost
That Blake bortles Led jaguars team That Miles jack for
scoop and score was they blew the whistle and they shouldn't,
have and that they fucked The jaguars and they Fucked
Blake bortols out of A super bowlrespect.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
That Fu.
Speaker 5 (55:37):
Both things can be. True i'll Disrespect Blake bortles for his,
career but That you're absolutely right The jaguars should have
won that. Game but my my point, is, though is
that a lot like you look at even The New
Orleans saints multiple times as home favorites lost in the.
Playoffs you look at The Baltimore ravens and some AND
i actually Think Lamar jackson has been more responsible for
some of their playoff flameouts in the past couple of,
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years but twenty nineteen as the ones that AT Afc
Championship game To Patrick mahomes and The chiefs. LOST i
think that's what makes The Super bowl lose some not
lose its luster in terms of like you want, it
you're a made man for, life but you don't just
get to fall back on that after a decade's worth
of not getting back and not winning. It if when
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we're talking about ranking coaches right, now and that's why
Ultimately i'd Have Dan campbell Above sean Time.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
Super Bowl Oh, mike is when Does sean mcvay's time
then to run out of His Super bowl for you
then and then you started did something like you Did.
Speaker 5 (56:34):
Tomlin, Well Mike, Tomlin, Well i'm just, saying here's the
thing though with With. Mike here's my issue With Mike.
Tomlin it started as an argument That i've had for
a long time with A Neil. Rule when does that
ever happened? Before only all the time WHERE i Think neil,
rule When Neil rule likes, Someone AND i know you
guys are gonna accuse me of doing this. Too you
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cannot say one thing about them other than they're great
and they're. Awesome And i've just pointed out how he
has a losing record in the. Playoffs steelers haven't won
a playoff game since twenty, sixteen and last fifteen playoff,
games The steelers have gone five to ten and a
lot of those no losing seasons still missed the playoffs six,
times still miss the playoffs at eight and eight three.
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TIMES i don't give a damn about. That that's my.
THING i think The, STEELERS i think The, RAVENS i
think The. Saints they underachieved in their post First Super
bowl life and met, hell Maybe sean McVeigh and The
rams they might end up doing that BUT i think
give it a couple of more. Years, actually probably at
least five more years before we're talking about ancient. History, McVeigh,
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well that's WHAT i.
Speaker 4 (57:40):
Say what's the time that you said five more? Years? Yeah,
yeah is it ain't gotta have some type of modicum
of excess if he continues to be worse than The,
Lions i'm not giving them. That if you're telling me
That Mike tomlin is getting deemed like this one of
those culture, centers one of those guys who you're not
finding people in THE nfl who's going At mike Tom
you're gonna find a lot of people IN nfl say
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he's one of the greatest coaches in this. League if
you're telling me that someone who's done this for a
very long, time very long, TIME i JUST i don't, know,
Man it's just it's, Funny sam. McVay I i welcome
him to continue to be the coach of The, rams
BECAUSE i know what the line's gonna continue to beat.
Speaker 5 (58:16):
THEM i want to believe that, maybe but then, again
that's another like backhanded shot at A Super. BOWL i understand, that,
dude BUT i.
Speaker 4 (58:26):
Don't it's amazing how the STATUS i can't utilize.
Speaker 5 (58:28):
Them you can't utilize. Them but to, me Super bowls,
appearances Super bowl wins are more important than head to.
Head Dan campbell needs to accomplish a little bit more
before he gets into that rarefied. Air excellent on a career.
Speaker 4 (58:42):
On The power, rankings absolutely? Wrong all, right all, right,
yeah pretty.
Speaker 8 (58:47):
Much i'm just standing and listen to the y'all two
you know WHAT i mean debating about The Dan camber.
Speaker 4 (58:56):
Rankings so this is forty years. Together pretty, much it's
like a. Marriage what's the reason at the at the
at the lovity to this?
Speaker 18 (59:06):
Thing?
Speaker 7 (59:06):
MAN i, MEAN i think this list is based off
of career in, general but the whole point of it
was to be the most returning head. COACHES i don't
sit here and think, that, Uh Sean payton should be
at number. Two if, Anything Dan campbell could be bumped
up to at least the five or six. SPOT i
know that's gonna irk people a little bit and you,
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know move someone out of a position that shouldn't. Be
BUT i definitely think the Whole Mike thoma And Sean
payton do need to be dropped out a lot more
Than Dan campbell all the way bumped down at. Nine
so give Me dan ad either five or six right now,
here and shout out to everyone sitting in super Chats Dan.
Speaker 5 (59:46):
Campbell at five or, six you're such a, HATER. Jbo
what what what?
Speaker 11 (59:49):
It?
Speaker 5 (59:50):
What IF i said THAT i would on the.
Speaker 4 (59:53):
Career, LIST i would have them up a little higher
five or six, personally.
Speaker 5 (59:57):
Personally just Because i'm, KIDDING i agree with.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
You BECAUSE pff goes and say that stuff, like, well you,
know we like the way that the rookies, plays so
we're gonna put them above established. Players and then you
flip the coin and it's just, like even Though Dan
campbell's had the success straight out the, gate we just
want to put them.
Speaker 7 (01:00:15):
Down and you know it IS pff once again, Too
so you know they're going to hate on The lions
as much as they can until until The.
Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Lions just keep being the ones, that you, know a
little bit. Underrated AND i saw somebody in the chat say.
It they, said you know, what IF i can find,
It i'll find it And i'll give you the. Credit
but effectively he was, like, yo you Know i'm opening The.
Lions do see?
Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
This?
Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Man he thinks it's it's disrespectful to. Them he thinks
that they're continue to be underrated on all these different,
lists and he hopes that he takes out their aggression
on the. League, now that's something that we've come to
know about The Detroit lions is that, realistically do these
lists matter to? Them not? Really do they see? Them
they see, Them they definitely see, them and do they
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get stanky about? Them and it's about going out there improving.
Yourself if someone is japping or if you see one
of these, Lists they've continued to go out there and level.
Up and that's the reason WHY i do believe you
See pro bowlers and all pros littered across this This
Detroit lions, roster homegrown people at that That Dan campbell
has coached up and.
Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Developed So sean McVay didn't coach up anybody on THE.
Rams come, on.
Speaker 12 (01:01:23):
Let it be just let it be say.
Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Just for the sake of.
Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
It, no let it be just for the same.
Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
It, Nora, man it's good, exercise it feels. Good we're
not even at The lights season. Yet we're gonna have some,
crazy crazy shows to The lights, season but.
Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
We do have some super chest up, Too so shout
out to everyone sitting In Super. Chess this was a
little bit earlier From ed O'Neil shout out sitting in
one ninety.
Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Nine he, says where do you Rank brad on THE?
Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Gms, GOD i feel like we can have another topic about.
That way WOULD i rate?
Speaker 18 (01:02:01):
Him?
Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
Yeah just spitballing probably four.
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
You hate.
Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
You Hate detroit and shout out to who would you
have a bout you, Know Brett, Veach Howie? Roseman she would,
yeah whoa? Whoa of course your real.
Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Color, show that's you're part of that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
Tribe, yeah, hey weezyd three one, Three, hey that's what's.
UP i ain't. Know Kool ai was a sniping like.
This my name Is, detroit Kool. Ai nice to meet,
you easy, One nice to meet. YOU i have no team,
toos no team too. Here it's All.
Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Detroit, hey do you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Got The Minnesota vikings and The Brooklyn? Nets shout Out
dante one five to.
Speaker 7 (01:02:48):
One he sent in another Super, chat he, SAID i
don't understand Why Jim harball is ahead Of Dan.
Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Campbell i'll Put i'm cool with. That i'm cool with.
That his his break between to go Coach. MICHIGAN i
shout Out Jim harbaugh was a little bit too. LONG
i love what he did with The. Chargers, obviously what
he did with the forty Nine, ers turning around that
dumpster fire gave him to a Super bowl and two
conference championships was. Great i'd Put dan Above Jim. Harbor
(01:03:17):
i'd Put dan maybe like one spot Above Jim.
Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Harbaugh we can and If Dan campbell does win A
Super bowl in the next two to five years And
sean McVay, doesn't where would you Have dan camp.
Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
Three that's a great. Question that is a great. Question
i'm open To Dan campbell Passing sean mcfaf if that.
Happened BUT i think a lot of that has to
do with.
Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
WHAT i THOUGHT i wanted to, lie is to win
a Super bowl before the cool as. Man now it's
For Flannel. Sam But Tuck brewers Saying, sam, yes he
couldn't coach Up. Golf he had to get a more experienced,
quarterback and the stories about things golf wasn't taught until
he got To detroit said a. Lot but here's the.
Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Thing here's the, Thing Chuck brewer though he did coach
up goff because the first year that people forget That
Jared goff's rookie season and it wasn't his. Fault by the,
way was an absolute. Mess Jeff fisher was the head.
Coach he didn't really want. HIM i mean they were
on HARD freakingnockx and he didn't even win the job
coming out of. Camp that Was Jeff fisher's an example
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of those of one of those like dinosaur coaches who
had his time and never really. Evolved Once sean McVay
got there twenty, seventeen his number Skyrocket at twenty, eighteen
they made The Super. BOWL i understand that it didn't
work at the, end but at the same, Time sean
McVay did coach Up Jared. Goff it's Just Matthew stafford
was Who sean McVay ultimately thought he needed and did
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need because they won The Super, bowl and, hey it
is what it.
Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Is it'd be interesting to see how it works out
because obviously right, Now Dan campbell And Brad, holmes both
of their, RANKINGS i guess you want to, say are
tied To Jared. Goff they stated That Jared golf is
the guy that they think can get them to the,
mountaintop make any throw and lead this team to the,
top and it's gonna be interesting to see because we
know What Brad holmes's perspective was Of Jared golf, already
(01:05:12):
so to be able to come here and, say you,
KNOW i do feel comfortable making this, trade not just
for the extra picks it's gonna bring, in but because
of the quarterback and the leader That Jared golf is
that to me speaks. Volumes it's interesting That Brad holmes
was there understood What Jared goff was as one of
the guys in the front, office but the coaching and
the development staff Of sean McVay couldn't quite get it.
(01:05:34):
There if he was, THAT i just don't know Why
Brad holmes, then as one of your, scouts as one
of your ball, knows your actual ball knowers in that,
organization would then't come To detroit and say that's the
guy THAT i KNOW i can win A Super bowl.
With it's just it's interesting to, me, Man But i'm
seeing some more people in the chat as. Well Cortes,
whitlow thank you for sending it in the Super. Chat.
Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
Man don't put this energy out, there quartez.
Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Chat he put the two dollars on. That If dan
doesn't win in five, years then what Kool, A, well
then he's appropriately he's appropriately ranked on his.
Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
List But, cortes if you're A lions, FAN i get
what you're, doing but, like but don't put that energy out.
There we all think he's gonna win one of the
next five. YEARS i would love nothing more than to be,
like you know What Dan campbell like is Dusting sean.
Mcvaggie just can't do it.
Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Yet that's all it.
Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
IS i can't do it.
Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Yet But i'm do you really want?
Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
That, yes Kol A, koolay what HAVE i ever?
Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Been?
Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
So will don't answer.
Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
That If lions get to The Super bowl with new,
cords no Doubt campbell will be in the top. Five and,
uh what up do with De? Troy gunny McVeigh coached
up and gave up On Jared golf in less than three.
Years i'm seeing a lot of this start to enter the,
chat seeing that D c greater than signed McVeigh because
McVeigh Broke golf in MC dc, Fixed i'm, saying but
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that's to.
Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
Me AND i responded to. THAT i think the fact
that he got to one With golf and one With
Stafford trump's That i'm, sorry like and And Cody, ingle
this is golf.
Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
Fix trump's a Super bowl without go well.
Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
To, him to him, no, no he he he Wants
Matthew stafford Super bowl like washed from the record book
and wrecked at retroactively rewarded to a Goa Cody. Ingle
this is actually very interesting BECAUSE i off And Cody
ingle AND i agree on very. LITTLE i noticed him
in this, chat AND i noticed him in A bde
And i've always thought of him as a little too
(01:07:38):
slappy at. Times, however that being, said you cannot rank
a guy with No Super bowl Super bowl appearance ahead
of guys with Either ninth is perfectly. Ranked surprised to
hear that coming from, you BUT i actually would Have
Dan campbell higher than. Ninth BUT i get your. Point
IF i get what that list is trying to. Do
(01:07:59):
they're obviously taking more of careers into.
Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Account that's all that it, is And i'm okay.
Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
With, that but it's a big part Of If Sean payton's,
too then that's if you were.
Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Saying returning, players can you imagine if they did this
with returning players like, oh our top ten returning players
and it.
Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
Took careers of guys who are clearly washed or clearly
Now Aaron, rodgers.
Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
That's What that's what it's screaming to. Me i'm, LIKE
i respect That Aaron. RODGERS i hate him shout out West,
Man tooth And, anchorman BUT i respect. Him but that's what,
this that's what the list was. SCREAMERS i would be absolutely,
like why the Hell Aaron rodgers on?
Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
This the only difference is you lose your athletic abilities
and you don't necessarily lose your like. Coach BUT i
get what you're, saying Though Sean Sean payton should not
be and not for the.
Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
Age for, me it was more or less because of
how like effectively who he is today as a as a.
Player what is the successes? Today are you even? EXPECTING
i told you last year coming into the, SEASON i
didn't expect, nothing nothing out of The jets Because Van
rogers at, all y'all thought it was. CRAZY i kept
THAT i don't expect. It people Thought Anon rodgers was
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still one of those GUYS whi should be ranked amongst
your top fifteen quarterbacks in the. LEAGUE i JUST i don't, know,
MAN I and that to me is WHERE i guess
WHEN i saw the, list that's WHERE i was. At
But Cortes, WHITLOW i see you in the, chat man
with the laughing the, most he, says love the Wooko,
MAN i love you. Too. Man thank you guys for
supporting all this stuff is fun because you know Already
brough told you you're one of those PEOPLE i trust
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to even have these types.
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Campbell we're gonna Talk Jack. CAMPBELL i, MAN i love my.
Linebacker this. YEAR i, REALLY i am really really hoping
That Jack campbell takes that leap this. Year we saw
him lead the team in, tackles and REALLY i feel
like it's almost incomplete to be able to grade him
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last year BECAUSE i thought he did a lot of
heavy lifting while the defense around him fell apart include
losing one at his, Linebacker Alex. Endzeloni but he's ful
of confident this, year especially with his old linebackers coach
now his new defensive.
Speaker 5 (01:18:08):
Coordinator Kelvin shephard And Max damara of Sid Lyon report
put out an article that basically detailed and Quoted Jack
campbell on how he's very confident In Kelvin shepherd and
thinks that things will be just fine moving. Forward just
to paraphrase a couple of things talking about the culture
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That Dan campbell. Like, basically he, says Coach Dan campbell
does a great. Job he kept a lot of stuff
in the, house AND i feel like that's what he believes.
IN i think it starts With Kelvin. Sheppard and by the,
way these Are Jack campbell. Quotes it's been good for
me coming in having to work with him so closely
to now have him as the. COORDINATOR i feel like
it just allows me to know what he's going to
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be thinking going into a game. Week So i'm really
excited about. That and this is Also Jack. Campbell there's
a few changes and there's some Things i'm really excited,
about AND i think the back ends excited about what
the guys up front are excited. About it's going to be.
Good you got to learn little nuances within the call
that's a little bit different than what Coach glenn. Did
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i'm just excited to see what happens and we got
the right guys in the. Room and just a quick.
Readoff this is not A Jack campbell. Quote this is
just basically listing his numbers in terms Of Jack campbell's.
Game the linebacker took a leap in twenty twenty, four
which Kool ai thinks he can compound with another leap shout.
Out last, season he enjoyed career high numbers in terms
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of tackles one point thirty, one passes defended five and
force fumbles, won highlighting the overall impact he can. Make kool,
AID i know you love this fival From Jack campbell
To Kelvin.
Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
SHEPARD i absolutely love, this you, know there's a lot
of questions out there amongst national media and even amongst
some of the fans who are a little bit more
scared than, stoked because they do put some stock into
the fact that we lost two really good. Coordinators that's
one part WHERE, i As i've gotten, more you, know
mostly further away From Bendet johnson And Aaron glynn leaving,
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Us i've been able to digest even more and more
of what people are looking, at AND i get it
from the outside looking. In they're not even saying necessarily
that The lions are gonna fall completely, off but they
definitely want to see them prove. Something but Since Kelvin
sheppard has been the, guy we've seen different votes of
confidence come From Super bowl, winners from Future hall Of,
famers from former, teammates from people he's, coached and from
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the people around him that's put him in this, position
and we know that he's been in alignment to have
this job now for a few. Years it shout out
To Kelvin sheppard for just being so locked in and
dowed in with those linebackers who they sit in the
middle of that. Defense one of the things That Steve
spagnolo talked about With Kelvin shepherd when he said that
he knew that he was going to be a good
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coach in this league one day was the fact that
as a, player he knew everybody's position on. Defense as a,
player he even knew what the offense was, doing because
he thought that that makes him better as a, defender
and that he knew effectively what to do at all
three levels of the, defense how to, connect and how
what one level of the defense is doing could help another.
Layer what that's hell done is this when you look
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at what The lions last year when they got into
a little bit of a pick with the pass rush
and needed to be able to generate some stunts to get.
Home Aaron glenn got a lot of. Credit but you
start doing a little bit of investigation and research and
you start to Realize Kelvin sheppard came up with some
of those schemes that allowed those linebackers to have a
greater effect in that pass rush, game or at least
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in some aspect of. Containment So i'm really encouraged to
Hear Jack campbell this excited About Kelvin sheppard stepping up
as defensive.
Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
COORDINATOR i love to see it In Big con fifty
one breaking. News did we expect him to say anything
other than what he? DID i personally think that the
glazing went farther than just, Oh i'm excited what we,
have just like generic interviews speak And Jack, campbell, HONESTLY
i think he probably has a lot of reason to
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feel that way because the reality is is and we've
talked about it, before BUT i think bears repeating the linebacker,
room the amount of players that have, developed Like Jack
campbell took a huge leap year, Two alexandzeloni's played the
best ball of his life since he got, here not
ever since he got, there but, really When Kelvin shepard
took over the, linebackers that's When alexandeloni started. Playing, well
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you look At Derek, barnes got himself a. Contract you
look At Malcolm, rodriguez who really had a good rookie,
year was relegated more to special teams in his second
year and then took a huge jump until he got.
HURT a lot of that has to do With Kelvin,
shepherd AND i absolutely love That Jack campbell feels this
Confident And i'll tell you what too a leap For Jack,
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campbell that could look like one of the best linebackers
in The National Football, league that could look like all,
pros Multiple Pro, bowls loading And i'm not even sure
if he necessarily has that kind of leap in, him
but you keep harping on, it And i'm happy that you.
Do you think he's got a lot more in the
tank even than what he has.
Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
BROUGHT i am, optimistically you, Know i'm very cautiously optimistic
with this. One BUT i do believe WHEN i see
what they've been able to do with Alex, anzeloni somebody
who at one point in time we didn't quite believe
he would be this and a lot of people just
didn't believe in. Him and you see the leap he,
took AND i think about that, linebacker room, man and
now you're looking at The Jack, campbell who a lot
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of people didn't quite believe in him at the start
of this. Thing but you see him take this, leap
and when THE defensi round him was falling, down you
see this guy still out there like the absolute battering
Ram AND i love that approach from. Him this guy
just wants to go out there and destroy AND i
believe that as he continues to get better with the,
techniques and you see a guy Like Michael, rodriguez Who
Calvin shepherd has taken from low level draft pick to
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lowron draft pick to somebody that we're depending, on accounting
on and glad to have a part of his. Team
that's what makes me excitic about. This and one of
the minor things here that stood out to me in
his comments was when he says he's really excited about,
it but he thinks at the back end and the
guys in front of it. Excited that to me tips
a hand that, No Kelvin shepherd is not stepping in
to Run Aaron glynn's. Defense he's not doing. That he's
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stepping in to instill his own. Defense that to me
tips the hand that there are some different, wrinkles some different,
schemes some different ways that they may, attack and there's
some things that we saw more of and it was
a little bit different towards the end of the season
as they got decimated by. INJURY i AM i can't
wait to see what he does to put guys in
a little bit different, position what he does to put
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guys in a position to affect the pass rush because
we're sitting here saying we need. More what If Calvin
sheppard has a solution for that.
Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
Ar he's been he's gotten his training in The lions.
Organization that's usually how it works when it comes to
a coordinator is either you're promoted in house or you're
promoted as a positional coach to another. Team and, uh
who is? It weezd three to one to? Three how
about him And ta just getting? Interception for here's my,
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Thing i'm not concerned About Jack campbell when it comes to.
Interceptions HOW i shouldn't say interceptions because interceptions are, Real
but my point Is i'm not super concerned With jack
campb when it comes to. Interceptions, however we talk about
him taking the leap if he can build upon his
sophomore season in which he wasn't great in coverage but
he improved over his rookie year and actually become either
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decent to good in. Coverage that's what really unlocks to.
Me multiple Time pro bowler at least Loading Jack, CAMPBELL
i DO i.
Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
Think he has an. Opportunity, obviously the success that The
Detroit lions are going to have is going to give
a lot of these players a. BOOST i believe that's
why we see a lot of them popping up on these,
lists no matter if we disagree be where they're. Rank
though these are first wall. PROBLEMS i admit That Dan
campbell on that list at nine is still for how
national media does. Things that's still pretty great, respect you.
Know BUT i do Expect Jack campbell to take that.
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LEAP i do believe in the assessment of A Brad
holmes with a player like, that and maybe some of
these players they take off at different. Times jamo had
a different timeline than A Jamier gibbs who had a different,
timeline then A Pinet sue And I'm Aron Saint, brown
and so Maybe Jack campbell as he's learning this thing
to become not just a complimentary linebacker but the main.
Guy that to me means a. Lot early on in your,
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career you're coming, in you're the, guy and there were certain,
limitations you, know speed or athleticism or things that people
want to hold against. Him but this guy's, motor this guy's.
DOG i like his. TECHNIQUE i do believe he needs
to get a little bit better in the. Coverage people
want to see a little bit more side to. Side
BUT i believe IT'S iq is gonna help him along
with What Kelvin sheppard's gonna. Do Kelvin shepherd knows what
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his linebackers, are you, know and that to me is
what makes me very excited about the relationship now that's
gonna be happening between the secondary and a defensive. Line
as he alluded to.
Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
WELL i also wonder too If Jack campbell AND i
haven't played high level, football so that would actually probably
be a question For Braylon. Edwards But i'm curious to
even get what people who have played higher level team
sports THAN i. Have just in on, this Is Jack
campbell going to have more comfortability With Kelvin sheppard from
the beginning than say An Aiden hutchinson or A Ta
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will just Because Kelvin sheppard Was Jack campbell's positional? Coach
one more, time Is Jack campbell gonna have more of
the immediate comfortability than as a linebacker then say an
edge like hutch or A ta like like A tha
at corner LIKE Ta? Will right, OFF i think more
With ta Than.
Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
HUTCH i feel like hutch is just Hutch he's just. Fast,
yeah that's, fair AND i get it. Now sometimes you temper,
it AND i get. It you don't want to be
considered like a slap people With Aiden, hutchinson you. Don't
he's just that. Dude BUT i do from this regard
in terms of overall, COMFORT i do believe That Jack
campbell is going to you. Here it's. Exciting that's what
stood out to. Me it's another thing that stood out
to me in this is just how, excited how, comfortable
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how eager he seems to really get going. Here SO
i do expect he and those other linebackers to be
able to hit the ground, running get there feeling. Comfortable
he talked about the nuances and the, language talked about
the nuances and and kind of the. Calls so he's
going to be more reticent to that because he said
it's different Than Aaron. Glenn that means that he's already
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gonna be in lockstep With Calvin shepherd more so Than Aaron.
Glenn he, said SOMETIMES i don't know What Arang glenn
is thinking until game. Day he, SAID i already know
What Calvin shepard's thinking, that so that to me it
means a whole. Lot so sometimes if you're showing up
on game day as a young, linebacker still trying to
learn the green. Dot you're the guy and the defense
has fallen down around. YOU i wonder how that's going
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for your. Development so with this, one he seems to
be so much more eager about the way forward because
it is familiar for, him and from that, STANDPOINT i
think he could be more comfortable than maybe A. Hutch
BUT i just think this is the huts is in
his own. Lane, Yeah Ta. HUTCHES i believe there might
be SOME i was gonna, say the rest of that defensive.
Line there's some guys like. THAT i do believe they're
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gonna have to get used to some. Things And jack
talked about it IN. TA i think that's very, fair
very very fair to bring up who he's gonna be
in this.
Speaker 5 (01:28:59):
New And i'm not singling him. Out i'm talking more
about because they weren't. Linebackers And hutch was a bad
exist second one and one for the. Musician you clarified
for that that that for me really well and a shot, two,
one six BEFORE i throw it ever at Justin sam
barely played lower level team. Sports, yes you are, correct
that's not an. Insult two years of JV v football
as a backup to the BACKUP o, LINE d line
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and was on kickoff return.
Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
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Speaker 11 (01:29:56):
This?
Speaker 5 (01:29:56):
Uh? Is Is Jack campbell Glazing kelvin shep this in an?
Article is that something or? Nothing i'll let's get that.
Speaker 6 (01:30:03):
WAY i think it's.
Speaker 10 (01:30:04):
Something, PERSONALLY i love all the positive feedback That Calvin
shepperd is. Getting he's gotten it before he even took
THE dc job as the linebacking. Coach SO i THINK
i have no worries About Kevin. SHEPHERD i think that
he is of the same cloth Of Aaron. GLENN i
think he's learned Under Aaron, glenn AND i think that
he was finally ready and is finally ready to take
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over a defense in THE, nfl especially when he's talented As.
Detroit's AND i think it's the same motto as the.
Offense it, is don't crash the, ferrari don't get like
as long as there's not a bunch of, injuries there's
not really a lot he can do to screw up this.
DEFENSE i, mean they got one of the best pass
russes in THE nfl with In. Hutchinson they have the
two of the best, safeties or the two best safeties
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if you really want to get granular about, it and
then they have a solid quarterback, groom solid linebacking, room
got two really really good dtackles with some solid depth
there With Roy lopez AND Ailk. WILLIAMS i think that
there's a lot to love about this defense this. Year
AND i have all the faith in the world In
Calvin shepherd because of the fact that he is born
and raised through The Dan campbell's, system and he got
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a great mentor Named Aaron, glenn who even when he
was getting slandered because they didn't have the horses to
be as good as the defense as they are, now
he still made stuff, happen still was able to create
schemes that were able to be. Effective AND i think
That Kelvin sheppard will be one and the.
Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
Same, yeah, no THAT'S i well said Justin i'll go to, You,
chase and then we are going to open up the
phone lines for a few. Minutes we will do our.
Best but At, chase is This Jack campbell glazing Of
Kelvin shepherd in an article something or? NOTHING i, mean.
Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
It's good for The, Lions like there's cohesiveness between like
the coaching and the, players so that's. Good BUT i,
mean what do you expect him to?
Speaker 5 (01:31:55):
SAY i think he was a little more over the
top than regular players speak.
Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
THOUGH i mean it's this guy like from being his
linebacker's coach to you, know like they're in the room
together like each week and meetings and all. That now
he's like leading the whole. Defense SO i feel like
he just aim for his, guy you.
Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
Know, Yeah and that's AND i appreciate that from him
because it'd be better than, saying, like oh, man This
Kelvin sheppard gud was? It he would never say, that
but you you get. IT I i THINK i think
the over glazing or not even, overglazing like the exceptional,
GLAZING i think that it. Matters BUT i appreciate your.
Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
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a good blow job from your? Linebacker good? One well, good, yeah,
exactly you're gonna get. One you might as well get
a good.
Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
One you always want to win the press. Conference BUT
i promise you there's a difference to how to WHO. J.
B bickerstaff. Was and you go back and you listen
To Manti williams press, conference people say it was a decent.
One but you hear, soul you hear, heart you hear,
passion you hear. Truth you're a conviction when you HEAR. J. B,
Bickerstaff AND i was before he ever had a. Result
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and With Manti, williams my man straight was, like, well,
yeah it's about the. Money anybody who says now it's
lying to. You so it's just, like there are some
nuances to this. Thing if it was just a notion
of he's just good and we don't have anything else
that we're able to pair that. With but when you're
getting this from the guys that are in the room with,
them and you're also able to see their production on
the field being much better than a lot of people
(01:33:20):
even thought it would be From Malcolm Regiggus rodriguez And Jack.
Campbell and then you're hearing from you, know people like
Super bowl winning. Coaches that's WHERE i then take a
little bit more of What Jack campbell is, saying and
it elevated just a little bit higher him like if
a player is just, glazing the coaches to Glazerg.
Speaker 5 (01:33:38):
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Line, yes we got what up though With Detroit, Gunny
so go ahead and put him live and uh we will.
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All, right what up dough With? Detroit, gunny you should
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Us what up?
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There, yes is this one of The titans. Finest that's,
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Detroit? Yeah.
Speaker 20 (01:38:47):
YEAH i just want to say that with the, DRAFT
i barely paid attention when The pistons in to have
a first round pick and When trajan said they weren't
going to be super, aggressive SO i kind of new
like the draft yesterday was just a. DRAFT i didn't
really pay. Attention SO i woke up about thirty minutes
late today BECAUSE i KNEW i didn't really need to
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be around for that talk this.
Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Morning BUT.
Speaker 20 (01:39:12):
I just want to say That i'm disappointed in The tigers.
Yesterday but Man Jack, blaird he needs to wake up,
somehow some, way because even though it was just that
one big, hit it kind of doomed us and then
our bats went.
Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Quiet so.
Speaker 20 (01:39:27):
Bigers need to go ahead and pull out that victory.
Today and with The Lion's, Talk i'll talk line every
day all, day Twice, sunday so With, DAN i APPRECIATE
i appreciate.
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It With Dan campbell.
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THIS i Think lenny had a tirade about this.
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List SO.
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I don't.
Speaker 20 (01:39:51):
Know you, know you can Say Dan campbell's, nine you
can say he's, five you can say whatever you. WANT
i just know WHO i want leading our team, today
tomorrow and so. Exactly and Then Jack. CAMPBELL i believe
he's an all pro loading he's he took the mantle
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From anzo when he got hurt last. Year AND i
think he's just gonna be the backbone and leader of
the defense more so than What huts can do on the.
LINE i, think you, know call him up wearing a
green dot and call him the plays and just his
leadership is gonna, lose.
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You.
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Know LIKE i, SAID i think he's gonna be Like
latimer with the juice flying all over the, place shout
out to the program on the. Guys uh not that
reference or. Not BUT, uh one final thing BEFORE i get,
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TONIGHT uh for The Veteran Beer.
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Uh so you, know for, me it's important to support
my veteran community and to be able to go to
A Ufc hall Of. FAMERS. Uh bar and restaurant. Distillary
what do you want to call? It, uh it's gonna
be pretty awesome. Tonight SO i might be able to
get some photos and and such For Woolward. Ringside so
just uh want to throw that out.
Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
There, yes get those into JB. KG i know that
that you you would appreciate, those, Right, OH i definitely
want to here you.
Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
Can, Yeah, hey thank you for calling in, man and
he said a couple of things, there have a good
day with up though with de try gunny into getting
that phone line is open three and three five five
two six three two. Two but just to be able
to talk about some of the, things he, Said, Yeah
I'm i'm Still i'm still, like, Okay Jack, flairty let's
let's let's get things. Together i'm riding with you. Brother You,
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yeah You're you're gonna be. Good but he's been the
one player this season that you, Know i've had if
you could call it concerned concerned with here's here's.
Speaker 5 (01:41:51):
WHAT i think About Jack flirty really, QUICK i here's
the reality of last. Night he gave, up he walked
too many, people he gave up one big three on home,
run but he did. Rebound he did get a quality,
start and the bats gave, them gave him and the
whole team zero. Runs you're never winning a baseball anything like.
That i'm not putting much of the blame on last
night With Jack. FLERTY i think With, flerity the issue
(01:42:12):
is he's a little he's been, inconsistent AND i think
the question with him is how big of a role
is he going to play on this team come down
the stretch and in postseason. Time if you tell me
that ree So olsen is back healthy And Casey mice
continues to pitch well and is, healthy And Jack flaherty
is your fourth starter going into the, Playoffs i'm, like,
absolutely heck. Yeah but if he has to be number
(01:42:36):
two or, Three i'm a little bit. Concerned but the weird, thing,
though is when he's Good, jack he can damn near
carry you to a season. Win but when he's Bad,
jack he can pitch you right out of the. Playoffs
it's it's an interesting conundrum with him because he's either
been really really good.
Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
Key figure he's key yeah the, playoffs and that's been my.
CONCERN i do give him as much of the regular
season as he, needs AND i do believe that A. J,
Hinch CHRIS, fveteri these guys are going to have a
hand and a pulse over Who Jack ferity is come that,
time and you want to you Need Jack, ferity especially
when you're talking About world series. Expectations you want to
(01:43:14):
see him get back to. CONSISTENCY i think that's the best,
word because you see the good and then you'll see
some of them not so. Good AND i think that
sometimes we're spoiled to you, know we look at what
schools is, doing and we look at some of the
just the high end pitching that the staffs has put
out now for some. TIME i know that there's been
some ups and, downs but SOMETIMES i do think we
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get a little bit spoiled looking at some of our
greats and you look at a guy Like Jack charity
AND i try to. Temper that's WHY i, say you know,
What Jack ferity gets the season for, me but you
want to see him become more.
Speaker 5 (01:43:45):
Consistent and that's and that's the thing In Crazy. CLOUD
i always look for hard hit. Balls anytime there's a
shutout or very few runs. Scored you saw a couple of.
THEM i think it was either the seventh or eighth
Where hobby got robbed and Then Colt keith got. Robbed
it was just it was it was. Crazy they were
hard hit balls that Were The tigers are. Fine and,
NO i wasn't trying to denigrate The tigers for scoring zero.
Runs my point was to say that the people who
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are piling On Jack flaherty for yesterday's, game.
Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
Oh Like Thomas rotandi who Says flerity's, Cooked he's not.
Speaker 5 (01:44:14):
Cooked that's that's a little bit too. FAR i, mean,
yeah his starts previous to this last night one were. Horrific,
however the thing About Jack, flerty and this is WHY
i said, this If Jack flaherty is your fourth, starter
if The tiger's pitching staff is relatively, Healthy i'm feeling
very very good about. THAT i JUST i don't Want
(01:44:36):
Jack flaerty's need to be too high come playoff. Time
BUT i also think if he's Good, jack he can
win you a couple of games in the postseason as.
Speaker 4 (01:44:46):
Well definitely definitely raises the seling for The Detroit.
Speaker 5 (01:44:49):
Tek he one thousand percent, raises because, man he. Can
there are times this season where he's looked like Prime
Jack flerty with The cardinal he's. Inconsistent and the.
Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
Second part of what what Of Dovie Detroit gunny was
talking about is THE nba. Draft AND i See Troyl lamar.
Too he's upset that The pistons did not move, Up
BUT i think it's because of who's still on the.
Board you, know unless you absolutely loved one player in,
particular you're not gonna break from your philosophy of best
player available when you know you're going to get the
pick of somebody who could come in and contribute out
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to some areas of weakness or show up the back
end of your. ROTATION, espn they just Projected chaz land
here to be the seventh player selected in the second
round of THE nba. Draft who The Detroit pistons.
Speaker 5 (01:45:37):
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Handler, yeah they got sure flaming first pick right through.
It yeah, so And maxine right after?
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Yeah and then who are thinking right after? Him yeah so.
Yeah so you, know, LISTEN i told. You for, me
it's This maxine Or. Chaz i'm okay with. This but
what the exercise shows is that The pistons are going
to get a pretty good prospect at number thirty. Seven
for as good as it can. BE I i kind
of believe this prospect might come in a little better
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on who it is Than Bobby.
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a win.
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Definitely and just so people, know chas he did put
up almost nearly forty percent from, Behind art got some
things you gotta work out technique, wise like handle wise skill,
wise but in terms of playing off off of K,
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Am i'm not mad at the LITTLE i. Know Willie
be mentioned him earlier as like a potential target for
The Detroit. Pistons but, uh there you. Go are we
we have any more phone Calls, Chase, chase pretty much
anyone else on the. Line, okay, COOL i think we
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coming to THE nba similar to THE nfl physicality and
the return of the big.
Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
Man do you?
Speaker 4 (01:56:39):
AGREE i do believe that there is a return of
physicality for, sure and aggressive defense being a thing, Again
but the return of the big, man it depends if
they can play aggressively on one into the court defensively
while still being able to provide you a versatile dart
of skills effectively a versatile amount of skills on the offensive.
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SIDE i still think that that's a skill set that is,
very very valued by TODAY'S innbia.
Speaker 5 (01:57:05):
Well and, honestly obviously it's not what it once, was
but defense is still a look at the teams that
win championships even in this, era even The Golden State
warriors were a great defensive, team and obviously we know
what The Oklahoma City thunder were just tenacious and when
they wanted to turn it on like In game, seven they.
Could but as far as the big, MEN i don't.
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Know it depends on your, definition BECAUSE i think we're
still gonna have the more skilled point center type big
men Like Shane goon And. YOGIC i don't know if
you'll ever get like a traditional back to the basket
guy being a superstar. Anymore BUT i get what you're.
SAYING i get what you're.
Speaker 4 (01:57:42):
SAYING i like THE i like the perspective because we
did in that draft seed defense and players that can
protect the. Rim there was a there was a premium
put on those. Players AND i wonder how much a
guy Like Jayalen. Durant it is kind of an archetype for,
that a guy who he doesn't certainly have the offensive you,
know skill set fully developed, yet but you see just the,
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sheer physical and athletic freak that he. Is it makes
him a difference making NOW i think that he's. HIGH
I q up here, too to some, degrees AND i
think that AS. Jb brickstep And coke have continued to
help him with the development, part the learning part of.
It we've seen him take some huge strides and that's
WHY i do believe in this drivet you saw some
teams look for or take chances on those types of.
Speaker 5 (01:58:26):
Place, no absolutely Shod who else are you? Seeing Fell,
like who is More, Aura mahomes Or? Hutch well that's,
unquantifiable BUT i, MEAN i don't. Know hutch is my favorite.
Athlete MAHOMES i think is definitely the best quarterback of this.
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ERA i know what you're trying to. Do you will
not bait, Me, no but if we actually really, Quick
i'm looking at the pitching matchup for This Athletics tigers
game and The i'm not gonna, Lie and this is
somebody That i'm Sure Nick koloff is more intimately familiar
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with THAN i. Am shout Out, Nick. Tigers The tigers
are Starting Dietrich. Ends i'm assuming as like a.
Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Opener he.
Speaker 5 (01:59:25):
Hasn't only he's like thirty four years old and pitched
eleven games in his. Career i'm guessing he's just like
that journeyman minor. Leaguer, hey just, win just. WIN i
don't care how it gets. Done but Obviously i'm not
gonna panic if The tigers loose. Today but you don't
want to take you want to continue to just win.
Series like WELL i was talking about because the stretch
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with The Tampa bay, series you, know coming off a
three and three HOMESTAND i was looking at this homestand
with The a's and The twins and be like go
four and two And i'm And i'm perfectly. HAPPY i
think this is a big game.
Speaker 4 (02:00:02):
Today you know, What jordan FROM, amai who are you
guys hoping The pistons take in the second? Round will
go around as? Everybody? UH i, THINK i don't know If,
cavasi do you have a player you want them to
take in a second?
Speaker 18 (02:00:14):
Round?
Speaker 4 (02:00:14):
No, no in, PARTICULAR JeI do you're what a Dope
cavasia is THAT i really care for THE nba.
Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
DRAFT i think most of the players don't really pan,
out like outside of the top three or like top.
Five you, know there's a handful that maybe do the
exceptions to the, rule BUT i find it.
Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
Boring SO.
Speaker 4 (02:00:31):
Jb, smooth what?
Speaker 7 (02:00:32):
UP i still Think trajan's trying to evaluate this team
at full, strength although he does see some. SPOTS i
definitely think it's gonna be a big man coming out
of this pick at thirty, Seven and, honestly it's probably
gonna either Be broom Or.
Speaker 5 (02:00:46):
Golding, okay if if It's Vlad, GOLDEN i WILL i
will actually drop, dead not BECAUSE i would hate, it
but BECAUSE i think there's a zero Point zerer chance
of that. Happening with all Respect, BROOM i actually think
there's there's like a. Chance BUT i would Say Maxine,
Raynad i'll dream a little. Bit it's the second. Round
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let me Dream Maxine.
Speaker 4 (02:01:09):
Raynad, yeah for, me it's Either maxine Or. Chazz it's
interesting to. See, obviously man if if we Get flemings to,
drop then we're all in, here, probably you know for
second round, picks probably a little bit more excited than
we generally will. Be that was a guy who a
lot of people thought could go in the first. Round
there's a companies other players WHO i thought that there
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was at one point in time you're gonna have to
trade into the first round to get A. Macine we
just we just had that. Question so there are some
players here with some first round grades that The pistons
are gonna have an opportunity to take because in this
draft in, particular what excites me is the fact that
there are some. Reaches there are some teams that are
taking guys strictly off of like long term. Potential there
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are some teams like The, nets who just loaded up
and they're probably just gonna unload somebody these. Players so it's,
like this was a draft that was, very very intriguing
because who the piss is? Needed you see these shooters are,
falling and that translates. It INDIAD i like. It they're
gonna have, something but anything else, TEAM.
Speaker 5 (02:02:08):
I think IT'S i think we've got a. SHOW i
think we're.
Speaker 6 (02:02:11):
Good one, thing one thing before we wrap go.
Speaker 10 (02:02:14):
Ahead it has come out that The Red wings could
be open to retaining a hefty amount Of Andrew copps
cap hit for the next two years in a, trade
which to me is very surprising that that's who they're
choosing to move and be willing to retain their salary
because of their awful. Contracts Andrew copps is the best
player of the awful, contracts.
Speaker 3 (02:02:32):
But that's what makes them desirable to other.
Speaker 10 (02:02:34):
Teams, yeah they would want, him that's, Fair but same
with J Z. KOPFER i mean on the same fifty
percent retaining type. DEAL i mean he could still be
an effective fourth line. TENOR i mean that's what you're
gonna Ask Andrew copp to. Be SO i really really
don't think that that would be the best move to
get rid of on the retain BUT i Mean i'd
be down for it because then if you do do,
that you have a spot For, danielson and Then danielsen
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has somewhere in the lineup where he can be slotted,
in and it makes.
Speaker 6 (02:02:57):
Sense SO i do see.
Speaker 10 (02:02:58):
That but Also i'm hesitant BECAUSE i think that it'd
be more effective if they were to get rid of
Confer Or.
Speaker 6 (02:03:05):
Tarasenko Ry alland.
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Says he's okay with moving.
Speaker 5 (02:03:08):
TOP i, mean, oh, Oh i'm with justin one hundred. Percent,
okay you gotta be okay with. It but if you,
could if you, Can, stevie why if you can do
some of wizardry to Get tarasako or confer office team,
Instead i'd rather.
Speaker 10 (02:03:20):
Pay i'd rather pay draft capital to a team to
take one of those two contracts then give up cop
with fifty.
Speaker 6 (02:03:26):
Retained so we'll.
Speaker 5 (02:03:28):
SEE i, yep second, That.
Speaker 4 (02:03:32):
HEY i can't wait and Say, Taptain we're gonna go
live tonight seven forty five for THE Nba draft second. Round,
hopefully you, know we get a little bit of excitement
as it relates to some of these, players you know
from See flemings start to fall is definitely gonna get.
Exciting but, uh just to be able to talk who's
with The, fellas to be able to talk with The chad.
Family and we're also gonna break down the free agency
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outlook and approach for The Detroit. Pistons after, that what
is it down to the post draft press, Conference and
we'll have some more stuff that we probably have on the,
show if not tomorrow the next.
Speaker 5 (02:04:05):
Week so forecast for tomorrow's. Show who's not gonna get
here very?
Speaker 4 (02:04:10):
SLEEP i got very like that draft got done at
like eleven something closer to, midnight he felt. Like and
we're finishing. Articles there is an article on the Website
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and contact man so. Tired but this is what it's.
ABOUT i KNOW i was talking about this for some
of the interns and and that the justin this is
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this has kind of been our right of passage. Year
there's been honestly a lot of, fun a lot of hard,
work a lot of, ups a lot of. Downs but
you're looking at this, now you're seeing a lot of the,
payoffs especially with the team that we've. Got so you're
taking no sleep for now because you know one day
we'll get.
Speaker 5 (02:04:46):
That.
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Man i'm this has been. Epic but shout out to
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hey what's trying to make this? Work so we'll be talking.
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here AND i can't. Wait so some of the interms
of probably being we'll get the food going and watch
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MEAN i enjoyed the draft yesterday and we pored it
and discuss about.
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Be it's gonna be more out there because the second
round is coming and the free agency is coming from
the for THE nba And Detroit pistons got they got
a very slam chance to make move when Like trey
just say they're not gonna Make they're not gonna.
Speaker 4 (02:07:15):
Who's your top three prospects for The pies at thirty?
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and that kid For. STANFORD i cannot. Y'all, Macine, Maxine,
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even more like if they do alright in the, season
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pick up for the fregency if they want to make
a move for a big.
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so all The Red wings draft coverage you can, NEED
i will have it free agency. Preview have It saturday
morning free agent primer With flannel And. Spendmo we'll talk
everything you need to Know Red wings free and see
as the rumors continue to come out as we get
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closer and closer the next week when freegency.
Speaker 6 (02:09:04):
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Show we'll begin with why The tigers Won game three
of the series and took the series and gets, open get.
Speaker 4 (02:10:25):
It, Done.
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Tigers let's let's not Make nick Cole off miserable for
the show because you know how he gets with The.
Tigers sings after.
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it gets better with The tigers, win with The pistons
going out there and getting the prospect who can help
to at least most of The florida's. Team and you know, what,
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