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I'm so excited to be here. We're got a lot
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Speaker 4 (01:19):
I'm just so excited.

Speaker 6 (01:20):
I'm ready to go cool and just dive right into it.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I'm pumped up, man, because you know what those Detroit
Tigers for to one over to Baltimore. Ools. We all
predicted and believed and all new this is just gonna
be another series win for those Tigers. I was hoping
for a little bit of ata. He didn't get too greedy, man.
We got a lot that we can eat here in Detroit,
like Buddy's Pizza for lunch, or show up to Nemos tonight.
Show up to Nemo tonight for the White Claw Tigers

(01:44):
watch party tour hosted by the Heavyweights. Man, and so
we can see another dub by those Detroit Tigers. But
you know what, this thing was so gritty, starting off
with the dominance of Trek's school. But I know we're
gonna talk a lot more about this game, but I
want to tell you guys what else is on the document?
All right? The Tigers are also ESPN number one team
in the Majors for a second straight week on their
power rankings. I will definitely give that sometime. But Breakfast

(02:07):
Ball via Fox Sports, you know, shout out to Mak
Clarkslayer and his crew over there, Craig Carton, these guys
had a lot to say about the Lions. And you
know what, Craig does not does not believe in the
Detroit Lions. He does not expect that they're gonna maintain
their pace, and he believes that they're gonna take a
big step back. And you know who else he doesn't
believe in John Morton. We're gonna hear from him. We're

(02:29):
go tob today and you know what, we also got
a little bit of you know, Justin's college football preview,
because we do got a couple of college shows that
are gonna be coming to the network and I can't
wait for it. Justin, I can't wait.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I know who you've already asked and who you want
to be on this show, and I'm telling you, guys,
you want to stay tapped in for college season, both
basketball and football. But Team Fox puts some on my radar,
and I don't think he understands the legend. Tee Foss
is in the building for today's show. I don't think
he understands how they aligned. They talked about the Lions'
schedule and they said that they only see two guaranteed wins,

(03:02):
two guaranteed wins on the whole schedule. Then they were like, no,
I guess three. If you include the Giants, we're gonna
get there. But t Fall showed that Delta Airlines has
expanded the service up to five Detroit Lions roll games
this year. We gotta talk about which one is the
most desirable and which ones are the most guaranteed victories.
Man uh, but Detroit Tigers man another victory. And this

(03:23):
thing is spurred on by the down of schoobl and
some gritty riddy players as te false I used to
call them, that do justine no doubt.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
And you saw the entire contribution offensively from the bottom
half of your lineup. You saw for three, oh for four,
oh for two, oh for three and over four from
Keith Torres, Green, Torkusen and Carpenter. That is insane that
you still went out there and you scored four runs
to win a game that you were struggling in and
seven hits, yes, seven hits, two home runs. The big
swing always is the difference maker. And then Terry Scooble

(03:54):
goes out does what Terry school does, has a great
performance didn't put up the strikeout numbers were accustomed to,
but he still is corners and was very efficient all night.
Seven innings of work with Kinlee in vested come in
and shut down. I mean, you can't write it any
better than that.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
I think the Tigers when Schooble is pitching, the Tigers
could win games without bats. They just show up and
maybe they get a few walks, push across one run.
He's not gonna give up anything. Yeah, And it's amazing
that Schooble has just adapted to the pressure of realizing,
I'm probably not gonna get any run, so let me
just continue to go out there and ramp it up.

(04:27):
Ramp it up, ramp it up. Because what I liked
about Schooble zero runs last night, and that brings that era.
You know, he's a one nine to nine on the season.
He's under two ERA on the year. And it just
continues to show not just the dominance but the brilliance
of Terry Scooble. I look at him as a picture
who's fast, is becoming feared in this league because he's
a guy that goes out there pretty fairly. He's messing

(04:49):
with people, he's edgy and when you got the talent
to back it up. He's just becoming quickly on those figures.
I am hoping I wore the Batman shirt for Terry
Scooble because it's just like brute dominance to me. So
shout out to schools on the mound. But who are
some of those greedy players that you want to shout
out today? Because we're gonna have to get some Because
t False brought up something cool about those Detroit Rats,

(05:10):
Well you want to tell people, first, t False, what
what Detroit rat means? And I want, yeah, I want
to pissing somehow to get this rat on their roster.
And that's Alex Caruso. This is a dude. He's not
really talented, but he can hit outside shots. I saw
him defending Carl Anthony Towns. He's a pain in the ass.

(05:31):
You don't want to deal with this dude, little white
ball headed dude. You think you know what what can
he do? But I wanted to pull you guys about
the Detroit Rats. Guys that have just been a pain
in the ass. Not maybe not the most talented person
on their team, but there's been a bunch of them,

(05:52):
and you tell me we saved this for the shots
on Lindsey Hunter. Who's on who's on this who's been
on this network? Lindsey Hun was a rat. I mean
he I agree with that. He got gotten people's you know, case,
and he was defended. He was full of energy. He
was supposed to be the next Isaiah Thomas. That did
not work out, but he became a rat. You know,

(06:14):
I actually agree with that, and I can't wait to
get to that. Who are your rats from last night's game?
And it will get into those Detroit Rats and chaf family.
I want you to put your Detroit Rats, whether it's current,
I want your current ones. I want the ones from history.
Let us know, because I was sitting here thinking, like,
all right, who are the Detroit Rats from the Lions, Like, now,
let's put this out. The rat cannot be a star player.
It's one of your secondary players who's just the pain

(06:36):
in the ass.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Before and before I get into the rats, I gotta
shot out our star before because Terry Scouble in his
last four Stars has thirty innings pitched, one earned run,
a point to point two ninety right, thirty two strikeouts,
two walks. Insane.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
How do you improve on a on a sigh young season.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
You do what Terry scouober and you bring even more
intensity and more energy and more juice than you brought
last year. And that's what Terry schools doing.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Hey, you know, set out, we got Cavasi a Chase
and sound booth, we got JB. Smooth Over Sports MVP
and the TD boof Hey, energy of the Tigers, they
get another one.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Man.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, I mean they're just doing their thing.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Every time, you know, they take a step, you know,
it's like one step back, but two steps forward, you know,
instead of the too you know, one step forward to
chase for the Tigers. You know, they're they're putting it together.
Guys go down, they still pick them up, you know,
like you know, it sucks that we don't have Jackson Joe,
but you know they still, like this team finds a
way to compartmentalize. They don't compound on their mistakes. They

(07:35):
let the next day, you know, live in the next
day and then they you know, they focus on the
present and then they're ready for tomorrow. Once the next games,
you know, once that game's over with.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
So definitely man and they set themselves up very nicely here,
they've gone through a gauntlitt of a schedule and now
they get a little bit of a soft, little bit
of go fatting yourself up, handy your business games and
continue to honestly have that this buzz throughout the summer
build up to what I think is gonna be a
crescendo come the fall in playoff time. But a JB.

(08:02):
Smooth what up though?

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Man?

Speaker 4 (08:04):
The energy of the Detroit Tigers. It was a rabby
performance last night, and I need you. I know you're
gonna have some rats for me, because I already see
a good one here in the chat. Man, I saw
Trillon Spiel, says Alex Anzeloni is a rat. But JB. Smooth,
it's Tigers, man, this energy, another series win, Schoolble's dominance
on the mount and the Tigers back to twenty games

(08:24):
over over five hundred, man.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
I mean another Tigers winning, Like you can just feel
the it's infecting the whole city right now, that the
whole city is behind the Tigers and you're just so
happy for him. Especially shout out school Boy once again
yesterday amazing game. Won some money off of that game
as well too. Shoutouts to Tigers. But man, I'm happy
to see this. As far as rats go, I don't know.
I kind of like Alex Azeloni, although I'm not enjoying

(08:49):
what he's doing on socials right now. But if you
give me some time, I can probably think of another
one as well.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Hey, definitely, definitely. But you know, when we talk about
these Detroit rats, especially in the history of these things,
that's why my focus instantly went to was who were
the ones on the Lions scenes Because it hasn't been
a lot of winning, but they've had a lot of greedy,
greedy players and on the offensive side of things. I
look at players like you know, Nate Berlinson Golden Tape.
It seemed like we had a string of those wide

(09:17):
receivers that kind of just fit that bill. They weren't
necessarily the stars, but they were here during a time
where we had some mild winning and they were, you know,
some major contributors, and then they endeared themselves to the
city just the right way.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
Yeah. I think that definitely a Lion's ratt would be CJDJ.
I think that in the time that he was here.
I mean that one is an obvious answer. Yeah, I
think that he I mean CD he was mentally taxing
on everyone. So I think that that is what a
rat is in my book, So I would definitely say CJJ.

(09:53):
I want to say Stefan Tullik as well. I don't
think he ever hit the stardom that he that he
was given around this city. But he was a rat,
like he was annoying to play against.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
No more discount double check. Yeah no, it was Stephen Steven. Yeah,
that's the way he pronounced it. It was like it
was it looked like Stefan.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
But it was Steven.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
I appreciate the correush.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
That's all right. Yeah, no, I agree with that one there.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Man.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
The Lions actually not. I'm thinking about they had a
lot of those players because they didn't have all like
Riley Reef and Dominic. But you know, here's the tough
thing about the Lions. Every time I think about a
Lion being a rat, they they they are rats for
a while, but then they kind of turn into stars.
Like I think Amy Ross Saint Brown is a rat,

(10:44):
but he's sort of a star too. He's one of
the top wide receivers, so maybe he doesn't qualify. But
the reason I say he's a rat is because it's
third and seven. You know he's going to get the ball.
The defense knows he's going to get the ball. Everybody
in the stands he's gonna get the ball. And guess
what completed first down. They're gonna keep moving on down

(11:05):
the field. So that takes grit, That takes a ratty consistency.
And here's the thing I can't figure out. The dude
looks like a regular guy. He's not big. He's like
some guy you see, uh working at Jiffy Loube. But
some way, somehow, No, no, dude, if you put a

(11:27):
shirt on him and put bob on there, you would say, yeah,
this is where he works. I gotta good way. Okay,
I got a good one cracking if I'm wrong here,
Carlos Gia. Do you guys remember the batflip? You guys
remember the stare him hold it down for his main man,
magnew Ardonias against Jared Weaver. I wish we had that video.
We might have to post that one today. That dude,

(11:48):
justin Carlos getting to me was a rat. He was
somebody who did not have any fear. He wasn't necessarily
your biggest star or your biggest bat in the lineup.
He didn't have the most pop, but he seemed to
always be just on the end of ready for the action.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Man.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
We used to me and my cousins man about that action.
We used to like have a ranking of players like that,
and I always thought that he was one of those guys.
After that interaction with Jared Weaver, man and was that
lounched a home run, stared him down, delayed backflip skipped
up the line like all of the antics around the
basis and then Weaver absolutely lost his mind and then

(12:23):
call us getting back down not at all dog he
was ready for it from the dugout he walked back
out on the field. That was epic moment for Conis Green.
Was just was crazy.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
He was He gave off that that sparked that energy
of that flair where like if you with him, he
was going to let you know about it. And I
think that that against Jered Weaver, that all.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Right, fella's think about this. Here's the guy the Tigers
tried to make a rat like three or four times
and it didn't work out. Who would that be? Hmm,
you're not gonna say, don Kelly, are no Brandon?

Speaker 6 (13:00):
What era? Can I have the era.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
The error could be he was on the roster this year.
Oh we correct, They've tried.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
Sorry, I love you, Cuba Doo. But you are the
definition of a for a player.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, he's he could be a rat in Toledo or Eerie, yep,
but not here. Hey, I see you over the antel Ryan.
Do you have a Detroit Rat two or three?

Speaker 5 (13:24):
I just came up with one just because I thought
of his strictly because of his playoff performance and he
was the ALCS MVP. What about Delman Young? It seemed
like in the playoffs that guy just like switched a
different gear and just it was brilliant all the time
in the playoffs, and he wasn't a star like I
feel like I always forgot about this guy until the

(13:46):
playoffs happened, and then he just dominated for the Tigers.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
I'm kind of one if his profile was too big
to be a rat, A little bit, a little bit
too big. I was just going, you know, who was
a raft for one year for the line Titus Young?
Issues man, we shouldn't make fun of them.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
Fourier. There you go, there's another good.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
One for Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was fud I know
there was a lot of people out there. I'm he
says Kirk maltbying that that also reminds me of our
guy here, Darren McCarty.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
Let me let me rip off a couple of hockey
ones for the hockey leade out there. We got obviously,
d Matt, Kirk Maltby, Chris Draper, Todd Bertuzzi, Johann Franzen,
Thomas Holmestrum. There's not really anyone on the team right
now siders getting there, but he's a star. Kronwall. Yeah,
that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Uh's got him?

Speaker 6 (14:45):
Yeah, I mean that was how that team was built
in that era. So yeah, that they're trying, they're really trying.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
But he used to be a rat team.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
They used to be and that's why they used to
win so much. And that's why we're seeing Florida win
so much. I mean, Florida is literally built like the
rattiest team in the NHL.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
That when we're missing it because we always say Red Wings, spin, Spin, spin,
please spend. But see, Foster's dropped a straight up truth bomb.
They were still during that spind era the rietiest team.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
Yes, that's what they're trying to do. They're they're bringing
in big physical players at the offensive and defensive end,
and they're trying to get back to that. But it's
hard in this current state of the NHL because you
can't just be big and physical. You need to be big,
physical and skilled and be able to score. It's just
a different game. And now it's become even more difficult
to build teams like how the Red Wings and the
Panthers are built.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Hey, you know what set out Dante one five. I'm
about to go over to the chase. Have to read
a few from the chat here he says, pass Lions,
rat Golden Tech currents Lions. Right, I would say Kirby Joseph.
Can we say Kirby anymore? Can you say he is
elevated safety, highest paid. Now he's making too much money.

(15:54):
He's too high profile, you know in the grand sense
the thing. Yeah, he's ratteem, but he's just too Like
I said, when I think about rats on the Lions,
they've all evolved into stars. And therefore one that's a
really good one. That's a good one. I see Minton made.

(16:15):
He knows the way to kool Aid's heart. Uh, let
me you guys will notice the theme with these players.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
That heah Isaiah stud Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Is Isaiah Stewart is just that dude justin knows the
way to detract kool Aid's heart. Isaiah Stewart is definitely one.
Mitton Mad, says Mike Curry. Cliff Robinson and one of
my favorites. One of the most underrated pistons of all time.
T faults Joe Coo rob Yeah, but he was really
talented though he was he was This dude could play

(16:46):
for real, was really good. Uh mitt Made also says
for the Lions, Jeff Garcia, how do you look? No, No,
dudes have to be able to play a little bit.
You have to have some time. Fifty one, got it.
Corlus Williamson Number one Detroit rat. Cortas Williamson a big nasty.

(17:09):
His nickname was literally the Big Nasty. Every time he
got in you knew it. It was back to the
basket buckets. Shout out to Cortas Williamson and what up
over there?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Hey, Detroit?

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Rats for us or any of your rats, because I
know that you're into a lot man, especially with the racing,
and generally that's not necessarily tied straight to Detroit. But uh,
I'm intrigued by what Chase Gpt got for us.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I mean, I feel like you guys rattled off a
lot of like really ratty people I know, like shout
out to d max favorite driver Kyle Busch. I wouldn't
necessarily call him like ratty, but his nickname is rowdy.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
He's too good.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
But well, I mean that's the thing, like you guys
are saying, like you like someone's too good. Brad Mehershan
has been known as a rat's almost his whole career,
and he's always been a really talented skilled player when
he was in Boston, even though he's playing third line
now in Florida. So I don't think like someone's scared.
Is uh should be any like type of like barrier
to entry for being considered a rat. I think like

(18:08):
you can be really I think like Nan Dominic and
Sue I think was really ratty, even though he's like
a very dominant player in the middle of lie just
because it's I think that's more or less like personality characteristic,
not necessarily like a referendum of like your skill level.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
The underdog too well, it's like he's like the underdog.
He's like he's only on this team because he's a
rat and he's not a style.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
I think it can be applied multiple ways though, Tas.
I think that you can be have like that rat
who's a gritty and survived. But I also think you
can have like the King rat who just is like,
you know, I don't know, imagine it like that, seeming
like too fast, too furious, where they put the rat
on the fact that's stomach and they like burn the
bucket like that.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Rats like one way to go. I was talking to
Joe Lewis over here and he brought up a good
name of a guy who was a rat, but he's
too high profile. He's in the Basketball Hall of Fame,
like Dennis Ratman, but I wouldn't he's a rat, but
I wouldn't call him a rat because he's in the
Hall of Fame. What about Bill Lambert and og rat?
That's from what though? With Detroit Gunny, That's yeah, he was,

(19:10):
he was a rat and an ass Kyle Van Denboss
from Steve the Young Louis Denless shout out Orange, DeAndre Levy,
Austin Jackson. I actually liked that one a lot. That's
a good one there.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
What about Antonio.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
You know, what would you do that one? Te Fosse
what Antonio? JB. Smooth said that at that same Yes,
his knees was, yeah, he was. He was walking around
on toothpicks. Steve de Youong puts in all caps, Jason Hanson,
are you you talking about the best lion history besides

(19:52):
Barry Sanders? That guy sixty two says the mule dom
mule back, dirty doctor d He gives another tip of
the captain Lindsay Hunter. Joseph Campbell says he agrees with
big Nasty Jess Dirt. You got a sense of humor,
says Chris Shelton.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
And by the way, in the beginning of the segment,
we did say we were trying to exclude star players.
That's why we're going for this mid tier right here.
That was the point of the segments to give some
love to some of the underrated rats in the Detroit
sports history that don't get as much credit as you know,
the bigger rats in history.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Dennis Rodgers, Don Milbach, that's one man. And Phil says
d macus King rat CPT dropped out there like that one.
And you know what ad is for one one? Thank
you for this one and I got to meet this
guy at All Star weekend. He was down there getting
content for his podcast. He came over and talked to
Kay coming in and I kept looking over like, yo,

(20:48):
does nobody know what to do this? But add said it,
Jerome Junkyard, Dog Williams. You talk about a guy from
one of the forgettable eras in Detroit Piston's history. And
he played each and every game like he was trying
to win a championship. Te falls No. It was like
when he got on the quarter, it's like, you know what,
this is the last game I'm ever gonna play in

(21:08):
the NBA. And that's the way he played. He didn't
score a lot, he didn't rebound a lot, but he
rebounded enough. He was scrappy enough, and he just was
an annoyance man. You know what, Man, this has been
fun about to get to this next segment. So we
got to say what up to some friends. I see

(21:29):
Dan Campbell from Bigcom fifty one, Stephen Bath, He says,
Javid best future in Detroit. Uh, says Brett Perriman. Yo,
we got a lot of good ones. A one with
almost got into a fight. What yeah, Yeah, we almost
got into a fight. Dan Skipper, Dan Skipper got a vote.
Now what are you saying?

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
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Speaker 4 (21:50):
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He and we are vackcut as wake up Fox. You
said you got into a fight with somebody. Just almost
hold that hold that real quick because we got somewhere
Detroit riots here. I want to read these and I
want to hear that story from me. But U Austin
Osgood says Dan Skipper never knows if he's gonna he's
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actually agree that what Apo Detroit gunn and Joe Kohor,
I'm seeing a lie here. Andrew Ware from Tennavirus, Jason
Maxill from Big Comp fifty one, Christian Mahogany Uh from
fifteen to two Lions DNC says Ron Holland won't be
king rat, but possibly Prince Rat. You know Ron Holland
is a current rat. That's somebody we we left out

(26:48):
of the rat conversation. Mike James, just in case, who
was the backcourt mate off the bench with Lindsay Hunter.
Another Detroit rat, Nate Burlison. Uh. It's dope to see
all of these pouring in, So shout out to the
Chat family, who is absolutely on fire. I agree, and
you know what, Tabitha Gable, we forgot one of our
own joke bell. Oh yeah, that's right, Wayne State, the

(27:11):
pride of Wayne State. He you're seeing playing college. Yeah,
this dude, every play was off tackle. Every it was
four yards, three yards, four yards. He just they just
kept marching up the field and and that that was
rat like stuff. What I said, No, no, tell me about this,

(27:33):
uh this rat like fight. You said, oh yeah, and
Brett Pearraman is a rat. But anyway, Uh, Brett Pearman
always wanted the ball. You know, receivers are He's a
little short guy. So anyway, I was in the locker room.
He said, man, you should write a column that I
should get the ball more.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
So.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
I usually don't do this, but I told you this. Yeah,
I interviewed him. And remember at the time there was
a little guy named Harry Sanders on the team and
then Herman Moore. So Brett was like, I should be
getting the ball more I wanted. So I wrote a
column and say, hey, look at Brett Perriman. You know
he's been playing well, you know, give him the ball

(28:12):
a little bit. So anyway, the next game is at Tampa,
so they we go down there, the Lions have the ball,
They're trailing by like four points. They have the ball,
they give it to Brett Parraman and he fumbled and
Tampa kept the ball and won the game. So afterwards,

(28:35):
there were some Lion fans down they see Lion fans
used to travel back then too, but the time they
were there's this overhang over where the players went into
the locker room. So they were throwing vegetables at the
Lion players because they were pissed. Les vegetables like cabbage, tomatoes.

(28:56):
I didn't see any onions. I'm sure there was some
onions in there. So anyway, I wrote a column and said,
angry Lion fans stood on the second deck throwing vegetables
at the line players. But then my line, which pissed
him off, I said most of those vegetables should have
been directed at Brett Perriman, who fumbled at the end

(29:17):
of the game. So anyway, we come back and go
to the locker room and uh, it's like a couple
of days later and Bresta, I didn't appreciate that column,
that bullshit you wrote about me. I'm like, dude, you
wanted the ball. I advocated for you. Having the ball,
you got it and you're fumbled. You fumbled, So they said, Bro,

(29:39):
I don't appreciate you fumbling, right, And he said, man,
I should kick your ass right now. I said, let's go.
So then we were, you know, we had a little fist.
Then he said. Then he said, I'm gonna bring my
boys from Miami to come up here and beat your ass.
Hold on, lawyer, So he tells you to the fisticuff,
I get my boys and get his boys to mine.

(30:01):
I said, deliverer. False. You know what I said. I said,
bring them because I'm gonna get my boys from Detroit
to kick your boys from Miami's ass. Now, who do
I have more faith in the Miami people or Detroit?
Tell me? So we you know, we motherfucked each other

(30:24):
for that day and everything, and then like two days
later he's like, what's up? Bro said, we were all cool?
So that was it. That's that's two liars. They look
at each other in the face and then they earn
each other's respect. Man, Yeah, I actually get in trouble
all the time with that team. False. Man, you a
Detroit Rite, maybe you a star too, but you got

(30:45):
that you more that definition that Cava was talking about Man,
I like that. Man. I grew up with rats, so
listening like real ones. Justin case said te false stood
on bitness, Mike g Uncle Tae, who wins Homa drill
you or wojo? Hey come on let me see here,
he said. Terry said second deck. Hey, they love the story. Man,

(31:06):
They're like they like powered up to false Man. I'm
seeing a couple more Detroit Riots to your Prince Fielder
from Dante one five to one, Johnny Morton from Joseph Campbell.
All right, hey, stop, you can't say Prince fielder for
this one reason when he when he got into a
slump in the media, pointing out to him that you're
not hitting the ball like he should. What was this

(31:27):
about when I got kids? You know it's talking about
that you can't be a rat if you're gonna bring
the kids into it.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
You definitely can't call Prince Garcia Prince Fielder a rat.
But I kind of sped. You can definitely call it
obviously Garcia rat.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
You know what, Yeah, I was gonna. I had some
some reserves about Prince Fielder as well. Benny Blaze from
your favorite Uncle Benny was crazy too, yep, chry Lessinger
from Dirty Doctor D you know these are some good ones.
And Stephen Boyd from your Favorite Uncle. These are definitely
Luther Ellis. These are Riots man the Lions, they definitely

(32:03):
got him. And talking about the Lions, Breakfast Ball via
Fox Sports had a lot to say about the Detroit Lions.
Mister Craig from their panel, he doesn't quite believe in
what the Detroit Lions will be in. We're gonna get there.
Just after this, do you have at least what the
ESPN Power rankings were for the Tigers? Yeah, just before

(32:24):
we move on and then after that, I'm curious about
what you guys think about his comments to false We'll
see if we can get you in on it, and
if not, we'll we'll definitely let you know other gist
of it. All right, beautiful, But here you go, Detroit
Tigers sitting at number one eight j B smooth. Do
you mind reading that off for the people? Yeah? I
got you.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
Zach McKinstry has been a crucial part of Detroit's improved offense,
hitting point two seventy five, point three sixty two and
point four three six while leading the team's position players
with a one point six war and tie for the
the AL League with seven triples. He has started games
at five different positions Jesus and hit well in high

(33:06):
leverage situations as well. McKinstry entered twenty twenty five with
the career ops plus of seventy seven, including just seventy
four last season when he hit point two fifteen, point
two seventy seven and point three thirty seven. So we'll
see if he can keep it up. But manager aj
Hinch has been starting him nearly every game of late,

(33:28):
including against a left handers.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Hey, and I see people in a chat already. I
saw the Zach attack from what up though with Detroit Gunny.
I wanted to put that up there kind of at
the tail end of the Detroit Riots conversation because talk
about Zach mckentry and everything he's done to be able
to contribute to what we see out of the Detroit
Tigers to the point that ESPN is confident in them.
When you talk about the power rankings, you look at
some of the other teams that you would normally believe

(33:51):
ESPN would be falling over. But we see the Tigers
win last night. We see how they won a lot
of games, and though they do have some stars, it's
been really because of a lot of Detroit Riots.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
That's justin Yeah, I think that it really has been.
Especially they shouted out Zach mcintry, who deservingly deserves some flowers,
and he was struggling a little bit in May. He
dropped his ops down in that month of six twenty six,
but then he's brought it back up to nine to
sixty six to start June, and that's following the nine
o nine that he had in April. So I think
that he's really this is his level. I don't think

(34:23):
that he's a guy who you're gonna see a massive
slump and a massive like dive bomb the way that
Hobby kind of has in the last month or so,
because he's consistently shown that he can in it, yes,
to bounce in and out of the slumps and still
get be that nice positional rotation guy that we need
in the bottom of our lineup. I mean, look at

(34:44):
leading the team in war, Zach mcintry. If you'd have
told me that in the beginning of the year, I
would have called you insane. I would have said there's
probably at least three or four players that I would
for surely take over his war. But it is It's baseball.
This is baseball, this is the whack nuances of Bay.
And I think that Zach mckintree has just been an
absolutely huge part of the Tigers success and probably something

(35:07):
that only Scott Harris and aj Hinch thought that they
could get out of them.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Hey, you know, aren't the Tigers just a bunch of
rat bastards? Yes? I mean yeah, you look at that.
I mean, who's the superstar Trek Scouble and who else?
If you're saying superstar only, I think it's just that's it. Yeah.
But the other thing, I keep looking at the guys,
which dude's in the slump. This guy's in the slump.
But if you don't look at the stats, you don't

(35:32):
notice that because they keep winning. Yep, it's all these
players are falling back to earth. The Tigers is the
team or not? They're not at all. That's the thing.
We've covered this. Whether the Stars have been off to
their best or not, this team is continued, as we
see to be at a pace of one of the
best teams in all of baseball and clearly the best
team in the AL. You know, the Yankees are the

(35:53):
team just behind them. But when they played the Yankees,
they punched them in an OS two. It didn't even
look like a fair matchup. Look ahead of your business series,
and I thought we were gonna get one of those
matchups like we kind of saw with the Cubs, one
of those matchups that we've seen the Tigers playing recently
against some of these better teams. But they went in
there and they folded the Yankees. But you know what,
do you know what the Yankees say every time they

(36:14):
see the Tigers in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
They're scared.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
They're scared. Damn Yeah, damn not these rats again s. Yeah,
they're They're always a favorite to beat them. The Yankees
are gonna sweep, They're gonna sweep, blah blah blah. It
doesn't happen. I feel like the Tigers are pacers built,
and by that I mean built for the postseason. I'm

(36:38):
just looking at their bullpen. You look at their starters,
you get their depths, you look at the bats. You
look at the fact that they don't have to necessarily
rely on just one individual in either one of these aspects,
from pitching to bullpen or to the bats, and when
you look at the Pacers, it's a well built team
of ratty individuals. You got maybe one super one star

(36:59):
came to say superstar, you got maybe you got what
one all star on that team effectively. So that's when
I look at what the Tigers are right now, I
see some similarities as it relates to be careful what
you say about the Pacers because one of them might
be a pistol next year. You know what, I can't
hear it. That's why I'm being a little bit nice
to the plate. I've been hearing some rumors and some

(37:21):
intrigue and some interest. Man, be careful. Yeah that's a
good one. Somebody's gonna be your boy next year. So
you know what, Golly, you're right. You're sitting right there
in the practice like, hey, dude that I was bashing
for the last three years just because I hate your
team from when I was a child, How you doing.
You're right on that. Rod told me that too, He's like, hey,

(37:43):
let's uh, let's watch how we talk about some of
these players. I was like, you're exactly right. But you
know what, the Tigers shout out to Zach McKinstry shout
out to the Tigers shouts to the fact that you're
right there. They're well built, built team full of gritty players,
and I do they remind me of that Pacers team.
I don't know how many people are really taking the
serious for a World Series. I think a lot of
people are definitely tipping their cap that they're a good team.

(38:05):
But when I look at the Detroit Tigers, I am
I'm taking them serious as a World Series team. That's
what fired me up about Scott Harris's comments, which we
will break down when when Flannel Sam gets back when
he stated, effectively where Brad Holmes said, what era did
the Lions into last year? He stated it, We're here
to win Super Bowls, try to win Super Bowls right
now and for the long term. What is Scott Harris

(38:25):
echo in his comments and I saw this via the
Detroit Free Pross. He said, we're trying to win the
World Series this year. We believe we are well positioned
right now, and he did say that this is gonna
spur him at the trade deadline to do something. And
then he also said, but we also want to make
sure we're set up to win a World Series beyond
this year, So shout out to Scott Harris for standing

(38:46):
on business too. He sounded like team falls standing on
business up the Brett Perriman right, and the Tigers. These
are young dudes too. I mean they're making like below
league average. They just a bunch of fighters. So this
could go on for a long time. You know, there's
only one reason why people or some people are not

(39:07):
making the Tigers world Series contenders. You know why? Tell
me they've been off the raida so long. They're like, well,
they just can't turn it around. Well, the Tigers had
their shall we say, come up, it's last year. They
made the playoffs when they weren't supposed to. They won
a playoff series when they weren't supposed to. They're up

(39:27):
to to one one game away from advancing to the
Championship Series when they weren't supposed to. So they got
their grit and they've got their anger, they got their
hurt built in. So yes, they are World Series contenders. Yo.
T Fosse, you've been really the prophet. You've been the
one who said, you know what, Lion's about to get

(39:49):
this thing kicked off, you know what, piss is about
to get this this thing kicked off. And now you're
saying that the Tigers are World Series contenders. It makes
me feel like you might be a whole lot more
right than wrong. You see this for years and you're
still right right in a landscape of all the Detroit sports,
and it does it makes me very fired up for
this because we see a lot of the same identity,

(40:10):
some of the same DNA traits that's been you know,
associated with some of our great past teams. It's right here,
and you're right. A team full of just gritty players.
That's what you said about the old Red Wings. A
team full of gritty players. We see it right now
with the Tigers, and it spurred them on with their
mix of all stars, to be one of, if not
the best team in all of baseball. And I do

(40:31):
think Chad family, that does deserve Alike. If you haven't
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justin will take a quick one and we'll come back
to some TLB. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:44):
I just want to address some of these comments about
hobbying here.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Hey, let's go just real quick.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
The reason that is because he's not taking as many
pitches and having as good of at bats as he
was having earlier in the season. So that's something that
I would like to see him take some more pitches,
get some more walks, which it's very hard to ask
hobby to do. But his uh, his difference in his
ops to his obp has like dropped in half, which
means he's walking at half the rate. So I'd like

(41:10):
to see a little bit more of a selective hobby.
I know that he got a little aggressive and the
slugging percentage went up with the five home runs last month,
but he still needs to stay as that singles doubles guy,
where he's really just a contributing factor in the bottom lineup.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
You know what's happened with haave Bayas It's my grandmother
called smelling your oats, and that means you think you
got it all figured out, You think you're big and bad,
but you're not. Yep. So basically what he needs to
go back to the basics what got him here. Now
he's probably feeling so confident I could swing in anything now,

(41:47):
but you can't. You gotta go back to square one.
You gotta you know, you're not Chicago Cubs, Hovey Baiaz,
You're Detroit Tiger has bias, a team that's saying control
the strike zone. You listened and you followed, but then
you got so good. He's like, I don't need to

(42:07):
figure that. I don't need to do that anymore because
I'm really good. No, you're smelling your oats. Go back
to square one, and bias can be another contributor again
like that, actually, man, And sometimes I wonder how much
just kind of giving these guys a break, especially the
ones who have gone from relative obscurity and fans wanting
them gone over the last couple of years to now

(42:29):
they've been some of the major contributors to the Detroit
tiget has been one of the best teams in all
of baseball. Sometimes I do believe just give those guys
a week off. Give those guys it's a break, especially
a guy like a Hobby who is there a lot
of pressure mounting to continue to be that guy that
you were. You know, you feel like, hey, I got
it back. Everybody was talking about them, national media, local
media might be pressing just a little bit. As teams

(42:52):
are adjusting to whatever he's figured out in that batter's box.
So you guys are preaching, and I see the chat
family that like what you guys have had to say,
and chief false about that. And let me see here,
kool ai, this is from Steve O. Baby. Can you
ask Terry Foster what means more to the Tigers before
the trade deadline? People won't shut up about getting an
arm to help the bullpen, and I think we need

(43:13):
another batter. It's interesting though, because you got resource in
now who's out for the year, which is going to
potentially affect what your playoff depth can be. So if
you're talking about the playoffs, I do believe they need
another arm. But we will never see her say another
bat doesn't help. Now that they both do help, and
you can I go six and one half dozen the other.
But teams who are serious about winning a World Series

(43:37):
always make a move during the season. They always add something.
So the Tigers, if they stand pat that means they're
not serious about this. If they get a bat or
if they get another bullpen arm, it's them saying okay,
we hear you. We're looking ahead. Because the playoffs are

(43:59):
different than the regular season. The playoffs all you do
is face good pitching. Now you're facing dudes with eight
eira so now and then you get a break. You
don't get a break during the playoffs. And the real
good teams know that's the case, so they plan for that.
So I think the Tigers of this if Chris Illige

(44:21):
and the front office, if they do something between now
and the trade deadline or add something to this roster,
that means they get it. If they don't, do you
believe Scott Harris's vibrado so far. I mean, the things
he's done has worked out. He's stating he's going to
be active at this deadline to the tune of making

(44:43):
sure this team can have what it needs to compete
for a World Series. And we hear them say things,
but this was the first time that I've actually heard
them step out there in state our approach right now
is for the World Series. But you've heard this over
a past I know. I always believe Scott Harris. The
issue is is he going to be allowed to do

(45:03):
what he wants to do and let let me, let
me and I'm gonna be bad today. I don't give
a damn Because it's Friday. All of y'all had been
bamboozled and hoodwinked by the Tigers. From this standpoint, Uh,
you know, Chrysillis doesn't want to spend money. But what

(45:26):
did he do? He offered Bregman thirty million dollars a year.
So now here's what we're saying. Oh yeah, those who
said chrys Sillis is not gonna spend shut the fuck up,
because he's going to. But here's the game he played
on you. If Bregman haught, if he had signed with

(45:48):
the Tigers, do you know that payroll would have been fourteenth?
Tee false listen, bro I was happy. I was happy
in my bliss, bro I was. I took the bait.
I saw it. I saw the Bregman news. I was like, Oh,
he's willing to open up the pocketbooks. I'm glad he's
still on business. Has related to the stipulations? Are you
telling me what he didn't want to pay? He took

(46:09):
Miggy's contract, really finally got rid of it, and so
he's gonna act Bregman in there. So if he was
willing to do stuff, let's say the Tigers had the
fourteenth highest payroll. Now, if he was willing to do
something at that point to move it up to eight
or nine if they needed it, then I would just
shut my mouth up and say my bad. But I'm

(46:32):
not buying the they're willing to spend now because they
were going to give Bregman thirty million dollars. They were
willing to move up to the middle of the pack,
which they've been all along. Yeah, but now they're eighteenth,
so they're willing to move up to fourteenth. That doesn't
convince me. Geezh, Well, you know what, man, most pivotal

(46:52):
you know, a trade deadline for the Tigers in a
long time. Pistols are facing the most pivotal off season.
They're going to have a couple of those over the
other th next couple of seasons in a long long time.
And it all culminates to the fact that all of
our teams now, all of them have playoff expectations. The
Ravens better make it next year. I know, justin he
got to crash out plan that they don't. And you

(47:13):
know what, Detroit Gunny says, t false, Let t false
satisfy the like button today. I'll let you know about that.
Doing a break. Hey, look at this, I don't know
how to do it. But whatever.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
Before we go to break though, just to clarify, Job is,
Job is the one that's out for the year, not
mys or not. Olsen has ring finger inflammation, which is
why he's not picturing. I was on the fifteen day.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
I also thank thank you for that claric, Thank for
the clarity.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Definitely, chat was very concerned.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Clarity. I remember I meant to mention some of the
players that were injured, but Job is the one who
affects the playoff depth. Thank you for that. Uh but hey,
who do we gotta say what up though? To JB's
moving and we got a t O b H. We
got to say what up though?

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You want to tell people that.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Means talk lions bitch.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
It was one of the it was one of the greatest.
Broder is what. He's a chat rat chat right? You
know what? You? Oh man, we gotta figure out who
our chat rats are. That's a pretty good one. Mike
g is one. I have to be y'all better press

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that like button. I'm the hell out of here. I'm
not coming back. Press the like button if you want
me to come back and deal with these children. If not,
I'm pressed it. Press it baby right now, bro, he says,
I see what we're pressing on the desk and what
up though, brother, I'm just rattling off, written off a
few more chat the dome man.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yeah, I mean I'm trying to think up the chat.
But yeah, we said, like John Fan, Lord, Mike g Rando, Small,
Tabitha Gable.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Shout out feel from Flo Fan.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Dante one five and what up with Detroit Gunny Greg,
I'm pulling up the chat now. So like crazy clown
yea three three Phil who everybody who argues Sam is
definitely a chat.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
That's good. That's a good distinction. Shout off the Chase man. Hey,
And you know what, there's some people out there who
don't believe that the Lions are gonna be very ratty
this year. They actually think they're gonna take a step back.
And I don't know how I feel about it. I
have some energy about it, but I've been sitting here, like,
you know what, I'm trying to Uh, I'm trying to

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be different here. I'm trying to be a change man.
Word to our brother Flannel Sam, but bakfast Ball. Craig
Carton on breakfast Ball does believe that the Lions are
going to take a step back, and he does not
believe at all in John Morton, based on what he
saw out of him in his time with the Jets before,
and he really just does not believe in what he
did with the Lions previously either. He doesn't believe in

(54:17):
this carryover effect. So Jebie Smooth, if we got that.
This is via Fox Sports Breakfast Ball, Let's definitely run
this one man, and I want you guys to reaction
as well as the Chat family, because he believes that
the Lions will take a step back.

Speaker 12 (54:33):
Look, I think they take a step back by definition,
because I don't think they'll be the one seed.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Doesn't mean I think less of them or less of him.

Speaker 12 (54:44):
As a head coach, because I think it's a great
head coach. I don't think the Lions are gonna be
as good.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
As they were over the last couple of years. I'm
not a Johnny Morton guy.

Speaker 12 (54:54):
The new offensive coordinator saw me here with the New
York Jets.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
I know he's with the Lions back and twenty twenty two.

Speaker 12 (55:01):
So he knows the verbis, he knows the system. So
we're not coming with a whole brand new thing. It's
the lines Jared Golf system.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
So that's good. You knew him in Denver.

Speaker 12 (55:10):
He was the passing coordinator there last year with Denver
I just don't like him because he's are the Jets,
and that doesn't mean he's not good. The Jets turn
a lot of good coaches into bad coaches. But the
Bears are gonna be better if Jordan.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Love is healthy. The Packers are going to be better.

Speaker 12 (55:29):
Right Minnesota, I think is not as good as last
year because you've got a rookie quarterback and we just
don't know. So I think the Lines are a playoff team.
I do not think they're a lock to win the
division like I thought they were.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
A year ago.

Speaker 12 (55:46):
And I think it's gonna be hard for them to
win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
I did that.

Speaker 13 (55:55):
He's from the Jets. Oh my god, that just makes
him an awful coach when he had one of the
worst supporting cast when he was a coach at the
Jets of the entire NFL.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
His quarterbacks were Bryce.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
Petty and Josh McCowan.

Speaker 13 (56:09):
The only receiver that you even knew on the roster
was Jermaine Curse.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
And then you're gonna be like, oh, well, the Bears.

Speaker 13 (56:17):
The Bears are gonna be so good with their brand
new coach, second year quarterback, no proven success in this
league at all.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
Jordan Love.

Speaker 13 (56:27):
Oh, who do you, dude, Jordan Love Oh? Like, like,
what am I even?

Speaker 14 (56:33):
I'm not even trying to be a slappy, but when
you look at these teams and you're talking about these quarterbacks,
they have done nothing in comparison to Jared Goff. None
of these coaches in the last three years since Dan
Campbell has taken over, have done nothing. There has been
a lock on this division placed on by the Detroit
Lions that no one has been able to touch for
the last two years. And now as we've also been

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undefeated against the entire division. Now, oh, Ben the Lord
and Saviors coming in to three John Caleb Williams, Like, honestly,
this is utterly ridiculous. The fact that the national media
is just pandering right to the Bears, the offseason champions
for the last three years.

Speaker 13 (57:14):
We know the narrative, Oh, the Bears, the Bears, the Bears.
What have you done for the last three years with
Justin Fields? Oh, they're winning the division, They're gonna do it. Oh,
now they have Kayleb Williams. He's gonna come in. He's
gonna be CJ. Stroud, Like, what am I even?

Speaker 6 (57:27):
Looking at? Your offensive line still has issues? You still
have defensive line issues, Like Caleb Williams hasn't proved that
he can win you games yet Ben Johnson has.

Speaker 13 (57:37):
He's as unproven as a head coach as John Morten
is as a coordinator. That's the head coach of the team.

Speaker 6 (57:44):
Like what are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (57:45):
Hey, hey, guys, can I ask you a question? Why
do we get so upset with national morons who don't
they don't know what they're talking about.

Speaker 13 (57:54):
Because I'm twenty two years old and it's my or
twenty three years old. This is my first real job
in media, and I already feel like I.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
Have I am.

Speaker 15 (58:05):
I am less of a slappy at twenty three years
old for the team that I cover. Then these national
media guys who don't even watch these teams play, Like,
if you're telling me that you are guaranteeing the Bears
are gonna be better than the Lions, then you didn't
watch football last year because they still they have a
brand new head coach. Like it's just ridiculous, it's an
utter disrespect to the profession. I think that these dudes

(58:27):
are just speaking like not even their truth. They're just
bs in and it's just like it's it's not okay.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
In my book, it's Ryan.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
You have.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
You have the rosters, the offenses that John Morton was
gifted with in his previous tenures.

Speaker 6 (58:42):
Shoutout flannel. I'm living up to this last time.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Isn't this Dan Campbell's offense? Huh? This is Dan Campbell's offense.
Don't don't steal the show once. I just stop mad
and we know this. Mark Slay understands what goals on
behind the scenes here with the Lions. But people are
loving what you got right now at Energy Justin they
loving it. I see Vincenty, Justin is cooking. Brother was like, wait, no,

(59:06):
Justin get him wait wait wait he got me fired up.
Justin made one mistake. He was trying to do flannel. Sam,
your gum. Your gums are not bleeding. That's the only
thing he did wrong. I'm bang your head on the dust.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
That's where I That's where I.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Just make your guy lead. And you got it right.
Jay Routlers said, easy fannel, easy, big fella flannel. Justin
from a and turn Ryan, you got those rosters so
we can actually see because he does not like he says,
I just don't like him. Why because of his time here,
and yeah, I know he's a passing coordinator. There, straight
dismissiveness as if this guy Dan Campbell makes bad decisions.

(59:46):
Meanwhile he's glazing Ben Johnson, who we know about because
Dan Campbell. But in turn, Ryan, what what up? Though? Man?

Speaker 5 (59:53):
Yeah, what's going on? But I just got the twenty
seventeen Jets offense because that's when John Morton was strictly
the offensive coordinator that year. I believe they were twenty
eighth in the NFL in total offense. But let's just
take a look at who two quarterbacks were for them.
Josh McCown and Bryce Petty were their two quarterbacks. McCown
played thirteen games or started thirteen games, and Bryce Petty

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started three of those games.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
You said it is our practice roster.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
No, this is the real NFL roster. And then we
head over to wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
This is preseason game one, right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
No, this is the National Football League regular season in
twenty seventeen. And then we head over to the running
backs and wide receivers. The only two names that I
recognize out of anyone here is a thirty two year
old Matt Fote and a twenty seven year old Jermaine Kurtz,

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and the guy that led the team in that would
be receiving yards was Robbie Chosen with nine hundred and
forty one. I don't even know who that is.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
And then he was talking about they use an XFL roster.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
And then and then if you want, I can go
to the Raiders if you'd like, let's see it. So
the Raiders, this is strictly he was just the passing
game coordinator from.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
John Morton was really gifted some some some offenses. I
hear round.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
From twenty nineteen to twenty twenty one, he finished eleventh, eighth,
and eleventh, and total offense there, that's just the Raiders. Again,
he was just a passing game coordinator. But in twenty
nineteen he had a rookie Josh Jacobs. Darren Waller was
on that team. And then as you sprinkle.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Derek Carr was still the top twelve offenses.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
Yeah, that's what it says. And then you but he
was just passing game coordinator. He wasn't total offensive coordinator.
And then Derek Carr was the quarterback all three years.
And then as we go out throughout the years, Hunter
Redfro was sprinkled in there. Henry Ruggs was sprinkled in there,
Darren Waller and then Josh Jacobs. So when he had
a National Football League roster, he was able to cook

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a little bit with it. But you can't just go
off the Jets Josh mcca on and Bryce Petty wars
quarterbacks like like, I get it. You know, some people
might be like, all right, it might be a step
back because Ben Jonson did a phenomenal job. But if
you look at the Lions now, they still have pec pieces,
they still have a Lamborghini Morton. It's gonna have to
figure out how to drive. And I'm being completely honest,

(01:02:16):
I really hope that we don't have Jamison Williams throwing
as many passes as he did last year, especially in
the playoffs where he threw a pick against the Commanders.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Justin ye are you okay? Now?

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I'm okay. Now, look you got on your stupidity
like that. Oh God, shout out to brother. He doesn't chat.
I think it's absolutely hilarious. Let me go find it.
That guy last played football in sixth grade and backed
up the team manager.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
So and I see people as one in the chat
who love on John Morton to Charles McLain. Morton has
worked with some well respected offensive coaches like Peyton, Gruton
and Harbaugh. And I'm gonna say, like Dan Campbell as well,
what though t false? Can I I need to ask
a question now because I'm I'm not gonna call it
Lions hate, but there's a lot of Lions doubt they're

(01:03:09):
gonna take a step back. But what is scaring people
the most is the fact they have two new coordinators?
Or is it the retirement of Frank Ragnow? You know
what is scaring you the most?

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
Ragnow scares me more than the coordinators.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
I'm almost honest, I'm almost in that boat. Like I
wouldn't even say scared, but if I had to say concern,
some concern, I would say probably the rag Now one.

Speaker 6 (01:03:34):
And I love the fact that they brought in David
Shaw as well.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Is that disrespectful to a g and Ben Johnson?

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
I don't think so. I think that they both were
meant like they both were under both of them. Calvin
Sheppard at least was mentored by Aaron Glenn.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
So I expected for this position.

Speaker 6 (01:03:48):
Like you said, John Morton laid the groundwork of this offense,
so I expect him to come in and not really
lose a step in comparison to Ben Johnson. I I
do think that the bigger question mark is rag Now.
I just think that you're now have a jumbled offensive
line and you're not gonna have a guy who can
just take one on ones with nose tackles. You don't

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know if you have that nore.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
You know what a year ago today, do you know
what people were saying about Aaron Glenn? Yeah, fire get
rid of now all of a sudden, we can't survive
on defense without him, but we added a couple more dogs,
like I t falls justin agree one hundred with that.

(01:04:33):
I just a couple of people here are saying rag now.
Before I throwed over to to intern Ryan, but uh,
let me see here, Broder, the key is Morton and
David Shaw together. And I thought Hank Freley in there
as a run game and uh offensive line coordinator. But
there's a lot of people who says, rag now, brother
are getting great question that dot rag Now? Eric Ally

(01:04:56):
rag now, and it's not even close. Greg twenty twenty five,
rag Now, what if though Detroit Gunny? I think Ragnow
lost is bigger than the coordinator losses. And you know
what also has a lot to do with that is
our belief in Dan Campbell and just as fired up
as you were. I know, Mark Slayers. You can tell
his energy when he heard this was like whoa. You

(01:05:17):
could tell he wanted to get fired up, but he
kept himself together and spoke to who Dan Campbell is
because I think he took Craig's comments just as disrespectful
to Dan Campbell as I initially did. One of the
things we've continued to talk about, especially since it was
confirmed by some national media. And there's a difference. There's
some national media who are journalists or some national media

(01:05:38):
who are former players. The former players who know Dan Campbell,
who didn't even play with the Lions. They stepped out
and said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, start with the alarms.
This was Dan Campbell's offense from the start. Do you
guys understand who he got this offense from. It's not
even just disrespectful to Dan Campbell. What is disrespectful the
Sam Payton and Bill Parcells. So it's like, you know,

(01:05:59):
he brought something here that he knew was gonna work.
We saw that same Saints freaking offense housed us in
a playoffs and didn't kick not any punts, Man, no
punts for them. Do you remember that they just housed us.
That was the That's the offense. So we sitting there
wondering why he ain't trying to Why are you going
for an on fourth down? These are offenses, these are
things that he brought from that offensive. We're gonna get

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to that clip, but I want to hold that until
the next segment. There is definitely a few more comments
here in the town I want to get to. But
in turn, Ryan, what up? Though?

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
Yeah, I just had a little bit of a correction
from my last take. Was someone in the chat, Stephen
baff He said that Robbie Anderson he changed his name
to Chosen, so that and I did search it up.
Robbi Chosen was Robbie Anderson, So I do know who
that is. And I also just want to put out
a couple more numbers as when Derek Carr and John
Morton were there together in twenty nineteen through twenty twenty one. Yeah,

(01:06:49):
that was Derek Carr's best years. Over four thousand yards
passing in every single year and he had over twenty
passing touchdowns. So I think with Morton with a competent roster,
unlike he had in New York. Well, you didn't have
an NFL roster in New York. But when he had
it with the Raiders, he had a he did a
solid jock a.

Speaker 16 (01:07:09):
Great roster with the Raiders, no, not at all. And
and the Lions a great pool. You man, the Lions
offense offensive roster is way better than what he had
at the Jets. I mean, Josh Jacobs, Darren Waller, Hunter,
renfro Cart.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
Those are good players, but that's not quite the Jared
Goffs of the world, the Junior Gibbs, David Montgomery, all
those guys. So when Morton did have a competent roster,
he was able to get it done. So I'm just
gonna put it out there.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Yeah, and I see some people in the chat here,
Uh let me see here, you got another one, another
vote for T false doing the up for speculation? Can
t Foster deliver to satisfy that like button segment song,
So you're gonna have to do this thing? That's that's
another vote for T False. He looks like a man
that is up for the mission. But there is a

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lot that is here in the chat. There's a lot
of people who are likeness in your face of her uncle,
he says, Rag noow scares him more as well.

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
Twelve in the chat that rag bigger concern.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
I didn't think it would be that lapsided. Yeah, no,
the chat. I haven't really even seen a lot of
concern for the coordinators in the Chat family. Let me
know why that is. I'm curious now why it is
Rag now over the coordinators. How much belief and confidence
do you have in them? Because everybody outside of Detroit
continues to say, no, those two coordinators are gonna be
an issue. I just don't hear them say that though.

(01:08:30):
When the Eagles lose their coordinators. I wonder what is
the difference with the Lions that they're all stating this, Oh,
you know they're gonna they're losing the coordinators. You guys
are just like, you know what? What was the Lions?

Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
I think it's what what Tethos said yesterday. They think
that this franchise is still pathetic. They still have that
sitting in the back of their minds that are the
same old Lions and that we're going to continue to choke,
especially after they saw us lose at home to a
rookie quarterback last year. I don't think. I think the
recency bias is what's really driving these arguments. And I
believe that it's just media bs. I mean, I really don't.

(01:09:08):
It's recently biases. It's not knowing the nuances of the
fact that our entire defense was essentially hurt in the
playoff game.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
I don't know. Yeah, people are acting like that defense
was whole at the end of the season. They're acting
like that defense should have played like a top ten
defense at the end, and it shouldn't have and it didn't.
I thought they were smoking mirrors against Minnesota. I thought
Minnesota was gonna carve them up, but they didn't. So

(01:09:37):
they found a way to get through Minnesota couldn't find
a way to get through the commanders, and the commanders
once again a rookie. Yeah, he was a rookie quarterback,
but he played unlike any rookie I ever saw. This
dude was like, I'm not afraid of anything. And I
talked to people from Washington and they told me this
dude is not bothered by anything. I didn't believe him.

(01:10:00):
I'm like, Okay, what I wait till he comes to
Ford Field. He's going to be, you know, crapping in
his pants, and he didn't. Yeah, as he Charles mclan
and the Chases. Look what Morton did with Nicks last year,
and you know Cavasier Chase. I always appreciate your insight
on the matters before you move on to what Mark
Schlayer said. Just want to be able to get your
comments on it all. It's a lot of disbelief with

(01:10:21):
John Morton, a lot of what I believe to be
backhanded disrespect towards Dan Campbell and what he's already established
here as a head coach. It seems like, in my opinion,
people just don't want to give him his due, that
he is one of those transformative coaches who has a
grip on both the offense and the defense.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
I mean are talking about to refer in terms of
Dan Campbell or John Morton.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Both either either or just both of them. Like I
feel like John Morton, by being the guy that Dan
Campbell has selected, is a guy that we should trust,
especially given what he's done here prior. And you look
at I like the pools that Intern Ryan had when
he had a roster, just marginal roster. He's had some
success when the has been like u WIFL level, it's

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looked you will fell like with the results as well.
But I feel like both John Morton and Dan Campbell
are being underrated and disrespected in the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
I mean, I think Dan Campbell's shown throughout his lines
ten year. No, he's made the right decisions as far
as like being the head coach and like putting the
right people like players in coaches on his staff, you know,
and the personnel decisions. But I mean, yeah, with John Morgan,
if people like that comes with the territory of being

(01:11:32):
in a new position, and you know, if people want
to call you necessarily unproven based on like your your resume,
because it doesn't matter like who you who you had,
you know on that roster, like you were given the
task to do a job, and you know, it's it's
not it's as outcome based. It's not you can't come
up with the excuses of all why I had this
guy and I had that guy. It's it doesn't matter.
It's that this isn't a results driven business in the NFL,

(01:11:56):
just like any other sport. And uh, I mean like
I said, he's in a new position and you know,
with a new team, and like that's like that's just
comes with the territory. I think he'll go out there
and you know, because that Dan Campbell has chosen this guy,
I think there's like a reason to believe in him.
But I mean, he didn't have to go out and
show it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
You know, in their defense professional sports, two words always
come up. Show me. Yeah, when Dan Campbell came in
talking all his mess show me. The narrative didn't change
until he did, right when Brad Holmes came in, and
when we questioned every move show me, we still question
it and we're still doing that right So, but t Foss.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
I want these national media people to show me the
stats from the first six weeks of the season when
Aiden Hutchinson was still in the lineup and tell me
where that defense ranked, because it was top five. That
was a top five defense in the NFL until hutch
got hurt. And you were saying that they would have
let up forty five points when if they would have

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had Carlton Davis, Aiden Hutchinson and a lead McNeil playing
in that playoff game, not at all like like that
that changes the game completely. Like the way that the
Lions play that game changes. They play it in more
in their style, running the ball more, and they're not
trying to win a shootout.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
I think they would have been better equipped as well
to handle or deal with or limit the mistake the
damage from those turnovers as well. We've seen him do this.
We've seen Golf go out there and throw a pluck
throw of interceptions and the team actually still come back
and win, and it's because of they got some dogs
out there on defense. So it's like, yeah, I definitely
in that we three and three. They were top five

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without Z. Come on with D three with three. Stop
taking side to Z. We all love Z around here, man,
But you know you're exactly right. But I do want
to I do want to be fair to the panel
because Slera, I think I know when you hear his
comments and you can sense a little bit of the energy.
But he remained uh, I will say panel professional. He

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did give a resounding voter confidence is four, Dan Campbell.
So let's say what up there to some friends and
when we get back, we're gonna definitely hear from Mark
Schlaft than what he had to say. About the Detroit Lions.

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It is Wake up Wilber Chat family. Y'all have been epic.
You guys have been engaging. You guys have been getting
your answers into some of these questions. The Detroit Rats
was epic. If you still got some Detroit Rats, get
him into the chat, even if it's something we've talked about.
We don't mind resetting that. As we're you know, into
our second hour, and uh, you know what, there's one
Detroit Rat you left out to see the planco your

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favorite player? You know, I thought would have had that's
his favorite player about it? You guys know who Gazoo is.
Gazoo Gazoo Gazoo was this guy with a big fan head,
the cartoon character that's what we look like, ye pumpkinhead.

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But he could play.

Speaker 5 (01:18:39):
He was too good to be.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
He was a multiple time All star. If we're saying
that the rat conversation is role players planco was never
you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
You're staying consistent with it, man, and I like that.
Hey shout out to Carrie uh Similarship. In the chat,
he says, if you think Campbell, that's Dan Campbell with
Sean Payton with Miami can't get an office together, you
are underestimating him. And we're gonna talk about that because
Mark says of breakfast Ball via Fox Sports, he had
a lot to say in response to mister Craig Carton,

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who does not believe in the alliance, does not believe
in their offense this year, and does believe they're going
to take a step back, does not believe that they
are locked for the division, believes it's gonna be He
sayss incredibly difficult for them to win a super Bowl
this year. He's down and out on them, and he
also called out John Morton's time with the Jets is
why he doesn't believe in him. But he false, this
is your big debut. The people have asked for it,

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and they want you to satisfy that. Like Button today,
the music is gonna be playing. So when you see
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just don't press the button. I want you to do this. Hey,
there you go, and then press it because I like

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it wet. This hit the white wet. I can't even
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for me, and don't play. Don't pretend to do it,
actually do it. Don't try to see false not in
the movie to be tried. What Troy Gunny said. Yes,
I've made it back just in.

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Yeah, I'll get you too when you least expected. Shout
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shout out to Steve de Young satisfied the like button
like te false satisfied Mini mouse. That's right, y'all know that,

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young fellas. Do you know the story about me and
many Mouse. I know, I had sex with many mouse,
saying it that was definitely one hundred and fifty likes
right now. One of my friends worked at Disney, and
I spent the week with her, and then she said,

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she said, this girl kind of likes you, and she's
wondering if y'all could go out and stuff. So so
we talked and everything. She was many mouse, she had
the many mouse. So we smashed and we had a
good time. We spent a couple of days together. And
so yeah, I hit I hit it with many mouse.

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See at least so usually they call it what smash
and dash, but at Disney World, it's only appropriate, you know,
smash and past. I mean, like, did she at least
give you a fast pass for like she did? The
only the only disappointment I had is when we were
messing around. I wish she was wearing the many mouse shoes.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Oh my god, what about the gloves.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
I didn't get the gloves je that would have been cool,
But she was.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
It's like she.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Did not have the head on. But I saw her
the next day. No, I saw the next day.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
I'm just loose it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
I went to Disney the next day and I passed
many Mouse and she didn't say anything, but she tilted
her head. She went, it's right over there.

Speaker 6 (01:22:33):
So it was for real, this is an episode.

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
It's a Friday, and everything's just been But that's awesome.
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Yeah, but you know, here's the dangerous thing about Disney.
You could I could have been with Mickey Mouse because
she told me that sometimes Mickey Mouse is a girl.
So you are real, You're a real Detroit right right,
Troy teeth fuss No, But but I didn't tell you
got many mouths. Saved my life. I was, uh there,

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stayed an apartment complex and there's like a pond in
the middle of the and the thing. So I'm by
the pond in a chair reading a book, and so
she said, dude, you better get away from there. I said,
what are you talking about? She says, there's gators in
that pine And so you know, I'm used to Michigan.
And so then we're actually in the city of Orlando.

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I said, there's no alligators in the city. He said, oh, yes,
there are. So I came out like a maybe a
couple hours later, there was a gator there, goodness, a gator,
an alla gator. He was like eighth He was like
eight foot long. Craig, give me some white. Not only

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smashally with many moles, but many mouths. Saved my life
probably started chat. I wonder how this is gonna go
on a chat. Now. People are gonna be giving me
their favorite cartoon characters. But you know, dropping Dan Campbell,
and I think that he's gonna be the reason why
this offense is saved from the demises that everybody believes
it's gonna happen with Ben Johnson the Great going to

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Chicago and you know what, Mark slur. He didn't seem
to be too okay with Craig Carton's comments, and he
gave his reply as to why he says you should
believe in the Detroit Lions and this offense. We got
that second clip that be smooth Yep, that's right.

Speaker 20 (01:24:26):
I thought they were the best team in the NFL
for the majority of last season until their defense just
became decimated by injury.

Speaker 21 (01:24:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:24:33):
And here's the thing I think about Dan Campbell. Those
press conferences, you can see exactly why they have had
success because of that guy and the way he operates
his team.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
There are no excuses.

Speaker 20 (01:24:44):
I don't care if we're injured, we're.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
Gonna go out there. We're gonna play a certain way.

Speaker 20 (01:24:48):
We're gonna be physical, we're gonna out you know, we're
gonna beat people up on a lot of screens. We're
gonna do all those things. So he has established the culture,
he's established kind of an identity of that football team.
But where I don't think Dan gets enough credit is
Dan is a great offensive Like he understands that offense
and I was, I was you calling games when he
was still kind of calling plays and transitioning to Ben Johnson.

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So Dan has got a very like he's got a
very heavy hand on the way that offense is structured,
the way they run that offense. So he's big into that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
The guy is very.

Speaker 20 (01:25:21):
Smart when it comes to x's and o's, how to
use personnel to do all those things. So what you've
seen over the last couple of years isn't just hey,
Ben Johnson take over and run the show. It is
very much, you know, a situation. Yeah, it's very much continuation,
but it's very much that Dan Campbell is involved in that.
So he'll get back more involved in this offense as
well to make sure it continues to run the way

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he has kind of established it from the beginning, right Ben.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
Johnson is the brilliant It's what I'm talking about. You
know who's a ball knower. Mark Slareth is a ball knower,
and I'm so glad that he chose to stand on
business for Dan Campbell as not just a guy who's
brought an offense here, but a brilliant mind, a high
IQ mind, and a guy who's continued to be the
guy who's had his hand on the pulse of what

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this team is gonna be, both offensively and defensively. I
like the fact that he stated right from the get go,
I thought this team was the best team in all
the football for most of that season last year, and
that defense was the only thing. The injuries to the
defense is what he believed what undid them. He's I
think he's trying to make sure people know any aspect
of the minds that you associate with the Detroit Lions

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is straight up disrespect to Dan Campbell, especially when you
talk about this offense, because he blaze it out there
and if you want to believe, if you don't want
to believe Mark Sheriff, it's like, why not this guy's
been in the NFL, he's been connected to it. He's
been connected to even the Lions organization is to a
certain degrees, so he understands what's happening behind the scenes.
I actually agree with a lot of what he says.
And he continues to say this Buck has always stopped

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or started with Dan Campbell, whether it's different coordinators, different
positional coaches. He has made sure to bring in people
that can fit to the vision he wants outlaid a
guy who just, oh, here's an offense I want you
to run. Can you make this magical? No, He's the
guy who sits down and says, this is the offense
that I brought here. This is the offense that we
pour at the foundation to. This is an offense that

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you're gonna have to run. You can make some tweaks
on top of this foundation. And that's what my biggest
takeaway for Mark schlairff in this thing and felt like,
tell them mistake that we're making them talk to me.
We're only looking at the losses that the Lions had
this offseason. We're not looking at the additions. One they're

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gonna get fourteen new defensive players. Guys who were injured
last year. So they're all gonna play. Aiden Hutchinson is
going to play, and Aiden Hutchinson is gonna play at
a high level now. When I was covering the league,
every time there was an injury, like a knee injury
or something, I wasn't concerned, but I would talk to

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doctors and say, yeah, you better be concerned with the
the ligament injured injuries. But somebody broke a bone. I
was like freaking out. He said, no, no, it's gonna
be good. They'll put a poll in there or ride
or what are they put in there? The bone is
something you don't worry about.

Speaker 5 (01:28:12):
You you you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
Know, you put stuff on it. He's gonna be fine.
So Aiden Hutchinson is going to be fine. So the
Lions are gonna have that star edge Rusher. I know
you don't get Aleen McNeil yet, but he's gonna come
back aventions, but you're gonna get most of your defense back.
The other thing you're gonna get is you're gonna get
a new Jamiir Gibbs. This guy is about to emerge

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and he's going to be dangerous. He's gonna be nasty,
and I want to go back to I always hate
to go back in the day. But he's gonna be
like Muhammad Ali. You can't catch what you can't see. Yep, Yeah,
that's what Gibbs is gonna be. Penay Sewell, pen ay
Sewell had a really pissed off look on his face

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every time they lose. He's going to even get better,
if you can believe that or not. So they're gaining
a lot too in addition to the losses. And to me,
I'd rather have players than coaches. And I understand that, yes,

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you lost Rag now in the middle of the line
you're a little bit worried about. I'm not as worried
about that because of the way this offense is structured
is get it out quick, it's play action, and because
Jared Goff has that white boy wiggle, let's go, I'm
not as afraid of the rush coming through the middle
as I am from the outside. I'm not either. I mean,

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you got to understand, the Detroit Lions have proven they
have everything they need to counter a specific type of rush.
They've largely been able to keep Jared Goff upright and
out of a lot of stress for most of his
time here. In Detroit, even when the offensive line has
been injured. And it's because you got a lot of
stars to count for, you're gonna do You're gonna engage
with Sam Laporta. And then all of a sudden, if

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you see Sam laport take one step towards the middle
of the field, that blocker hesitates one second. That means
I mean, I mean the defender hesitates one for one second.
That linebacker looks for one second, and he guess who
they've missed. Jamier gives off the play action out the backfield.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
That's and that to me is where I think people
are overthinking this too much. They're almost acting as if
John Morton is some guy who they just picked up
off the you know, off the scrap peap, some guy
who was just coaching high school football here in the
state of Michigan, and he's just a good guy. Gosh
darn it. We just need somebody who can just come
in here. That's what I feel like that, and it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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this guy has had some success in this league. Dan
Kebell himself has said that he was one who helped
me lay the foundation of the offense that Jared Golf
runs that Ben Johnson was calling. This was him. He
was a part of this we pulled up. If he
has at least something marginal at quarterback, he has made
a difference either as offensive coordinator or quarterback coach, or

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play or passing court. Shout out to Chon Ryan for
the Pools, and we've shown that when the roster wasn't there,
the success slacked. Despite not get what Cavasi was saying earlier.
You know, we never want to make up the excuses,
but there was a job for that front office to
do it, and they didn't do that job for him
with the Jets, and that to me is where when
you look at what the Lions have right now in

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terms of the job Brad Holmes has done and the
job Dan Campbell has done, it does make me that
much more confident in what John Morton can be here,
especially when you consider the fact he's already been here.
So you know, we got one more. I want to
be able to have some fun with this one. Let's
two shot it for that last one to talk about
the Lion's schedule and the fact that Craig only sees

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three guaranteed wins on this thing, and I know you
had a nice piece on Delta. They've now would expand
it to going to five places. Here's how powerful Lion
fans talk to Lion fans travel. Now, they know you're
going to fill up the stadium, so Delta Airlines smartly said, hey,

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let's take advantage of that. So what Delta is doing
is they have flights leaving out of Detroit and Grand Rapids.
Like I think there's Saturday morning or Saturday afternoon and
they come back. Some flights come back Sunday night after
the game or Monday morning. So Delta has expanded their
flights for the weekends that Lions are playing in certain cities.

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For instance, they have expanded flights for Washington, d C, Baltimore,
Los Angeles, Kansas City, and Philadelphia. Those are the five
big road games. They know Lion fans are showing up,
so they say, oh, we're gonna throw a couple extra
jets out there. Well it's smart. According that is smart
Charlotta Delta, Charlotta Lions fans. Because when you talk about

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Lions doing things that no other people are doing, you
talk about Detroit is doing it better than everybody else,
which we might have to run that segment back one day,
t folse, this is amazing to hear that Lions fans
make so many ways that corporate industries are saying, Hey,
we got to be there to capitalize on it. So
good on details. And they a't doing one airport, they're

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doing two. That's crazy Detroit and Grand Rappids ain't Grand Rappitts. Yeah,
shout out man. So this is pure Michigan type stuff. Man,
stay the Michigan stand up man. I definitely salute because
this is what we're talking about. We do it better.
Don't tell me with some small market. What are you
talking about. Nobody moves like Detroit moves. And now I
think that the people who for years thought small market,
let's block them out. I get some of these other

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melting pots and all this. We are the passion. We're
the ones that stick with our squad. We're the ones
that move with our squad. We're the ones that take
over your stadiums. I was told that Packers fans were
the best in the world. They have stocking their team.
I didn't see that. When we showed up to Landboue.
We took over your house. I saw Sheila Pranton around
your field I saw Brad Holmes screaming around your field,

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I saw Jared Goff roaming around your field, and I
saw Lions fans all over your stadium. Shout out to
Delta for recognizing that they believe it's gonna be good.
But if Craig Carton of Breakfast Ball via Fox is
to be believed, you're gonna see a whole lot of
losses on the road this year because he does not
believe in what the lines are gonna be. He only
sees two or three may be guaranteed wins for him.

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Let's get that last clip on the two or three shots.
Mister JB.

Speaker 22 (01:34:11):
Smooth guard, battle tested and played in huge games. So
like I think, outside of Detroit, we will look at
that schedule. This will not be the last time we
put it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:21):
Up on the screen and'll be.

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
Like, man, what a tough schedule.

Speaker 22 (01:34:24):
And the Lions will look at it and be like, yeah,
we've been playing in games like this for two just.

Speaker 23 (01:34:29):
Saying, you know, we do all this schedule stuff and
some of the schedules are glaring. This is one of them, like, look,
they're gonna win a bunch of games this year. Obviously,
I think the division probably beats itself up. But when
you look at that schedule other than Cleveland in Week four.

Speaker 12 (01:34:45):
And I guess the Steelers not knowing what they look
like with Alan Rodgers at quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
Where's the guaranteed dub Giants, Giants? Even the Giants as well?

Speaker 12 (01:34:58):
The two games no on three, Every game for them
is going to be a playoff time game, right.

Speaker 22 (01:35:04):
But to Dan Campbell's point, if you come out of
that eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
Yes you are a battle test.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
Yeah, you're like the playoffs.

Speaker 22 (01:35:12):
Are going to just be a continuation of what you've
already done.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
And that's what I think is gonna happen.

Speaker 22 (01:35:17):
I think they're gonna be like an eleven twelve win
team with a top three offense and a top fifteen.

Speaker 12 (01:35:26):
If they win eleven or twelve, that division ain't getting
three teams in.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
Well just just.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
I'm just saying, shout out, shout out, shout out to
Danny Parkins, who was on the right in the beginning
of the clip. He's a Bears fan, who said, you
guys are crazy if you think the lines have fallen off.
I think that they are locked to win the division.
I think the Bears got better, he said. I promise you.
He says this, the Bears gained more with Ben Johnson

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than the Detroit Lions lost. Effectively, you guys are fools.
And you see at the end of the clip if
he's trying to tell Craig and that's what I'm saying, Well,
you know what, the Lions do this good, you won't
get your team, he said, bro, I'm just here to
tell the truth effectively. So south to Eddy Parkers, I
got a question for all you got, all of you.
That's only two or three wins, Browns, Steelers, maybe Giants.
That's what mister Craig cart no joke. The guy is

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a joke. But here's a question. I'm hearing the theme today.
The Lions are going to take a step back. Let
me ask you this question. First of all, nobody wins
fifteen games in the National Football League. That's very rare.
Now let me ask you this. Let's say the Lions
stay relatively hat healthy, the offenses what we expected to be,

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and the defense is better, and they win twelve games
this year. Is that taking a step back?

Speaker 5 (01:36:45):
No schedule is so much harder.

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
Though, okay, not at all. If the Lions won eleven games,
is that taking a step back.

Speaker 5 (01:36:54):
Are we winning the division with eleven or twelve ones?

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Yes? No, not at all.

Speaker 5 (01:36:59):
I mean fifteen wins, that's that's incredible. But they're not
winning fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
Fourteen, Yeah, that's freakish. Might not even thirteen, Okay. So
the only way the Lions could take a step back
is if they win nine games and don't win a
playoff game. Seriously, who up here thinks that's going to happen.
Not at all, that's okay. Who thinks they'll win ten
games and not win a playoff game? I don't believe

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in that at all. That's Tom Fuller. So none of
y'all think they're gonna take a step and I agree
with it. They're not taking a step back, but in
the fans' eyes. I mean, if they let's say they
finished twelve and five, Old Joe six pack is gonna
say I told you they took a step back, right, dude.
People don't win thirteen games, he said, Browns and Steelers.

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He said Browns and maybe the Steelers. Then't latter said, well,
I guess the Giants too, as the only guaranteed wins
on the schedule for the Lions. As if the Bears twice.
Ain't up there as if we didn't just go undefeated
in the NNC North, Like, what are we talking about? Man?
And so that's where it got me thinking. When we
talk about those destinations that Delta's going to, if you
listen to him, he's saying that we pulling up to

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a lot of losses. What I just think is absolutely insane. Brother,
I just do man, But justin when you look at
the schedule, how are you feeling about the Lions outlook?
Obviously we've all given our season expectations, but when you
talk about only two to three guaranteed wins, I feel
like that's really disrespectful to a Lions team who has
absolutely owned the division now for a few years.

Speaker 6 (01:38:31):
Yeah, that's utterly ridiculous. I can't vibe out with that.
We're talking about a team last year that I'm just
trying to do the math real quick, had a winning
record against playoff teams. So if it is a playoff schedule,
like they say, they're still going to be successful.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
How did they do on the road last year?

Speaker 6 (01:38:50):
Unfeated?

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Oh okay, thank you?

Speaker 5 (01:38:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:38:52):
And so do am I worried about going on the road?
No Am, I worried about the division. Certainly not. We've
beat them every.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
Singery dogs we're out last year, but they still had
these accomplishments.

Speaker 6 (01:39:04):
I don't know. Defensive players, you're candidate A Huntington, that's
a big one. Only McNeil all pro, that's a really
big one. Carlton Davis cornerback, one veteran leader of the secondary.
And we can gave Bowery in that three fourth health
Alexandzeloni for a few Alexandeloni was playing with half a hand.

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I'm just being honest here, I mean playing with them,
you know, am on his hand.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
Set out to the crew this morning. Man, set out
to the crew for real. I know because I'm looking
at the time and I want to save you this
time for this college special and this way we got
to do it, man, because I could. I know, we
could talk about this for a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:39:45):
Said one more question for you, because I went back
on Twitter onto Woodward's post about Ben Johnson being hired
from being the tight ends coach to the OC and
everyone was just glazing it, which like, is so weird
to me because that's team was showing zero life. They
were coming off their three and thirteen season, and everyone
was just glazing the fact that but I think that

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now that we're good and that we're trying to replace
how good Ben Johnson was, people are scared when John
Morton has more credibility getting into this job than Ben
Johnson did in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 4 (01:40:20):
But do you know why they glaze them? Go back
and look at the comments from articles. You're gonna see
one big name, Dan Campbell saying you gotta believe in
this guy. Yep, and people believed him. That's the thing.
Now follow follows. Here's the thing. Here's once again let's
talk about addition. Let's say John Morton is not really
good as an offensive coordinator. You know it's gonna happen. Now,

(01:40:41):
There'll be a press conference and Dan Campbell will say, guys,
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city he was coaching in. Shout out to Stephen Baffie,
shout out to Dani Campbell. But I throw it over
to that dude justin for a few minutes here to
go through college football previewing. You said that you believe
that there is one absolutely guaranteed loss for Michigan on
their schedule to another powerhouse squad.

Speaker 6 (01:45:40):
Oh yes, And I hate to be that guy, I
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Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
So Wood, we're Bett's in the house.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
I can't wait for the college football show. And I
know some of the characters that you've been reaching out to,
some of the people that will be involved. I cannot
wait for this show.

Speaker 6 (01:46:13):
Yeah, I can't wait. Sean Beligian is going to be
involved a little bit. He told me that yesterday, So
that's super exciting. So be on the lookout for a
college football show that should be a little July or August.
But the main point that I have today is Michigan
is in a brutal place and it is time that
the fan base needs to realize that Michigan is going

(01:46:35):
to lose to Oklahoma in Week two.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
I don't like this.

Speaker 6 (01:46:40):
And I'll tell you why. The first reason is you
are going to be starting a group of five quarterback
that has never played a defense like Oklahoma, or you
will be starting a true freshman on the road in
his second career college start in a new offense with
a brand new system from Chip Lindsay. We are talking
about two teams that are eerily similar. They both have
domin d lines, good defenses. Their offense is built on

(01:47:03):
running the ball. But the difference will be the fact
that they have the number one transfer port recruit in
the country, John Mader. He is from Washington State. He
was the prize of the Portal. He's a dual threat
six to one, two hundred pound unit that runs throws,
prototypical college quarterback, and when it comes down to games
early in the season, when everything isn't all ready to go,

(01:47:25):
everything's not clicking on all cylinders, especially when you have
so much movement within Michigan's offense. Also, their wide receiver
room sucks, so that's another aspect of this. It is
going to be ridiculously hard for Michigan to go in there,
especially with all the noise around the program, with all
the scandals, with the talk about Sharion Moore being self
suspended for the third and fourth game. And I just

(01:47:47):
don't think that this is going to be an environment
where they feel comfortable letting Bryce Underwood go out there
and ball. I think that they're gonna start Mikey Keane.
I think that's the wrong decision. I think you gotta
let the you gotta let the real cook. You gotta
let him go out there. You gotta show what he has.
And I think that if they do that, they will
have a chance in that game. But if they do not,
John Mader is going to absolutely dunk on Michigan. If

(01:48:07):
they try to play an offensive style of game, Oklahoma
will win. So I will open it up to the floor.
I had JB and my intern Ryan tap in with
me and see what they think.

Speaker 5 (01:48:19):
So let's, uh, let's digest this a little bit. So
first off, it's June. A lot a lot of things
can happen, and I think.

Speaker 6 (01:48:27):
What can happen before before the end of the season,
before the start of the season, what can happen?

Speaker 5 (01:48:32):
Any injuries in fall camp?

Speaker 6 (01:48:34):
All right, but let's these these teams sit right now.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
That's kind of flannel like COVID.

Speaker 5 (01:48:41):
But so so these two teams are so similar, like,
this is gonna be a tough game, But let's let's
look at even just the coaches coordinators. Both of them
are coordinators, and I personally think that this is year
one for both of these coaches. I know Venables has
been there for like three or four years, but he's
got one year of the SEC under his belt. Because

(01:49:03):
Oklahoma didn't know what they were going into into the SEC,
and this is Sharon's first full offseason, he kind of realized, hey,
I might need a quarterback and possibly throw the forward
pass to succeed in college football. But with Oklahoma, there's
one thing that you didn't mention with Oklahoma and Matier
is they brought over the offensive coordinator from Washington State
and our Bucket I believe is his last name in

(01:49:25):
Washington State. But both of these teams took over programs
that were in Lincoln Riley and Jim Harball that were
both in and around the College Football Playoff year in
and year out. Both of these coaches are taking over
programs that were successful, and now there's a little bit
of pressure for both of these teams to continue on
that success. For the Michigan side, you're bringing in who

(01:49:46):
we don't know who the quarterback is yet. Is it
gonna be Mikey Keane, Is it gonna be Underwood? And
you mentioned in the environment both but both of these
teams have really gotten the transfer portal. And Michigan's offensive
line scares me, it really does. I know it's sucessful
in years pass and Troon Moore was an offensive offensive
line coach and offensive lineman at Oklahoma, But I think

(01:50:06):
the biggest thing in this game is is Michigan gonna
be able to throw the ball. That's gonna be the
biggest thing in this game. And you mentioned that Michigan's
wide receiver room sucks. We don't even know if they're
wide receivers or any good at all because they didn't
even throw the ball at all last year. But in
the end, it's gonna come down to either John Mattier
or for Oklahoma who's gonna make the plays or it's

(01:50:28):
gonna be Bryce Underwinter Mikey Keen that's gonna eventually make
the plays. Because both of these coaches Wink Martindale great
defensive schemes and Brent Ventnables, is he gonna make the
great defensive schemes, but it's gonna come down to the
I'm him moment with Underwood or Mateer or Mikey Kean,
whoever it is.

Speaker 6 (01:50:43):
And if we're talking about I'm him moments, I'm willing
to take the four star recruit transfer the number one
in the class, who is a top ten Heisman candidate,
who has good receivers, who has a baked in offensive line,
and who is used to the system that he will
be playing in. Bryce Underwood or Mikey Kean will have

(01:51:06):
to completely learn Chip Lindsay's new system. So will Justice Hands,
so will Jordan Marshall. They are running the same system
from Washington State with multiple transfers back there. I think
that the Oklahoma will be a more efficient offense by
week two. I'm not saying if they played in the
end of the year that Michigan wouldn't beat them, but

(01:51:26):
because it is week two, it is so early in
the season, you are going to have to travel on
the road, you are going to have the suspension looming
over the team for the next two games. I just
don't think that Michigan will win this game, and I
think that Oklahoma is going to be equipped to be
able to beat Michigan, which I think it's tough.

Speaker 5 (01:51:45):
But Oklahoma's also going to have to learn the arbuckle
offense as well. I know it helps with having materia
already built in and they work together, but the running backs,
wide receivers, no line who They did both to the
offensive line in Oklahoma over to the portal, but that's
gonna be a ton And the whole suspension thing. Thought
the hammer was gonna drop during the Ohio State game
of last year and it hasn't yet. In the NCAA

(01:52:05):
they moved super slow, so we don't even know when
the suspensions are. But if I were to make a
prediction right now, I'm going to lean Oklahoma simply because
of the veteran quarterback, not that Bryce Underwood's not good
at all, we don't know what he's gonna be. And
the simple fact that it's gonna be in Norman, Oklahoma,
and that place is gonna be rocking second game of

(01:52:26):
the season, and we know how the South is with
their football, and it's gonna be a ton of people
packed into that stadium and it's gonna be a living
hell for Bryce Underwater or Mikey Kean, whoever it is.

Speaker 4 (01:52:39):
And one other thing, Delta Airlines is doing flights for
me for the Oklahoma game.

Speaker 5 (01:52:47):
Doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
But you know what, seriously, I saw something dangerous at
the end of the high school football season. I saw
Bryce Underwood play. He stopped throwing the ball he threw
when I saw him play, he threw about eight times.
So what I mean? Those are games they felt they
really had to win, so they took the ball out

(01:53:08):
of his hands. And he can run. I'll tell you
that that dude, that brother can run. I see Dante
one five chas Sean said, Michigan will be Oklahoma. He's
a sparty Jamie Smooth, you're a resident Spartier too. You've
heard the dialogue between that dude Justin and a tion Ryan.
How you feeling.

Speaker 7 (01:53:25):
I mean, I'm not gonna say it's out of the
possibilities that Michigan could win in week two, but obviously
this is just a preview of a too early look
ahead Week one. Michigan, they'll have their way with the
Lobos and price under what should look amazing in that game.
They will probably take him out halfway through. But when
it comes to week two, when you're on the road,
giving this freshman a start, and a very dangerous environment

(01:53:48):
that is the Sooners in Oklahoma. That that's a rough
territory to try and you know, get a win in,
especially given the fact that you are going to this
dangerous territory. He's playing his first road game, and it's
this kind of factors. You don't want to put the
pressure on this freshman quarterback. You don't want to diminish
this man's confidence as well too, So you're going to
have to see and when it comes to if they

(01:54:10):
play him or another quarterback in this game, you gotta
follow the money, and if the money towards Bryce Underwood, yes,
you're going to play him at either the full game
or halfway through, depending on the flow of the game,
which I can see it going one or two ways.
One either Oklahoma is just lighting up the scoreboard, and
you don't want to diminish Bryce's confidence because you can't

(01:54:30):
put together plays or two. This is going to be
a slow, grinded out, low scoring game that at the
second half, Michigan could quite potentially just choke the life
out of the Sooners and it'll just be a boring game.
So those are my two outlooks. But when it comes
to what Ryan was saying as well too, that hey,
this is going to come down between the two quarterbacks

(01:54:52):
with John Materer and Bryce Underwood, and the coordinators as
well to who is going to string together enough place
that they can honestly edge out the other.

Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
I can't wait for this show.

Speaker 5 (01:55:01):
Yeah, And ultimately in this game, if Underwood struggles or
mikey Kean struggles, Michigan's is just gonna try to muck
it up and just try to run the ball down
Oklahoma's throat. But Oklahoma, I'm liking that Ohio State game.
They got a good defensive line.

Speaker 6 (01:55:14):
And then thank you, thank you, Ryan, because that was
the point I have been saving as I've waited for
you guys to go around the room. They have brought
in one of the best linemen in the transfer portal,
a defensive end from Florida State who had nine sacks
last year. He will be paired with a first round
projected twenty twenty six draft pick on the other side
of their edge. They also have two very good defensive tackles.

(01:55:38):
When is a sophomore, he will get drafted in the
top three rounds of the twenty twenty seven draft. So
they are going to have just as good of a
d line as Michigan. So when Michigan doesn't have that advantage,
I just don't think that they are good enough through
and through like Oklahoma is since they brought.

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
In major This is gonna be interesting. You know what
already see how we can do with it.

Speaker 6 (01:55:57):
And yes, I know Oklahoma lost their bull game last year,
but there's only called opt outs. Guys, it matters, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:56:03):
I want to be able to this year. I want
to be able to follow a lot of the points
of contention, a lot of the dissension, a lot of
the disagreements. I want to follow these things this year.
I want to track this, especially the College Football Show.
That dude justin he's putting his ex for Oklahoma. Well
and into Ryan, you're putting yours what you believe it's Michigan.

Speaker 5 (01:56:23):
No, I think Oklahoma edges it out right now. But again,
the thing that I don't like about this is the
defensive line. And because in the end we've seen Sharon
more when it against Penn State and even against Ohio
State this year, Penn State in twenty twenty three, Ohio
State this year, that he's gonna muck it up. Even
in that Alabama Bowl game, they can't throw the ball.
So he and that's what he's gonna lean to is

(01:56:45):
just mucking it up. And they can't do that against
this Oklahoma defense.

Speaker 4 (01:56:48):
It's gonna be intriguing. Let's take a quick one because
one more thing.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
Yeah, a quick question. I just want to know how
I like you guys think you're gonna lose to Oklahoma.
How are you going to handle a one and two
start to your season? Because you know the Chipewas come
to town back to back losses. If you're calling, if
you're calling the lost to Oklahoma, Yeah.

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The Chips, Chips, they're coming in for more than a check. Wait, wait,
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Oh my god, Chip was bringing home the victory cannon
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Yeah, I've had one of those before. I've had a
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It's also all over the place at graduation. Wow, something
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I've only ever had.

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Look at just I'm straight up like when I graduate Western,
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I'm not gonna lie really like, I mean, if you know,
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It's such a trashy campus. They let you get away
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You know, the ground for your graduations arm pit, Michigan.

Speaker 5 (02:02:15):
We're actually like, that's why.

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They like brownish Yellowishop and.

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We're actually in the middle of Michigan.

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You guys are literally in the middle school other than
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Straight up, your colors are your colors are brown?

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Yeah, like Westerns colors are literally brown and a key yellow.

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That's pretty sweet though.

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Hey, we do have a football net championship, mister King Tipple.

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People always ask me what are Western Michigan's colors. I
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But know, JB, that's that's ballsy. To bring a borg
into graduation, it is. I mean, I've only ever had
them for for football tailgates and it's eventful for it.
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I think it's USC see them too, USC.

Speaker 6 (02:03:15):
It's at the coliseum.

Speaker 5 (02:03:17):
Yeah, that makes sense, JB.

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Smooth, what's up? How is there more heat between the
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This is a spicy studio right now.

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Win a national championship.

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Did she win?

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She just made to the finals. They had a semi.

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If she wins, I can hear about your your track
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Speaker 4 (02:04:55):
Hey, you know what kick off the rest of these videos.
We're gonna have to do some content on this said,
I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
I guess the woman a different kind of loose noise.

Speaker 4 (02:05:07):
And the Broncos like each other. Now you chase it's
bad blood man, it doesn't like it. It's bad blood
in the water.

Speaker 6 (02:05:14):
That brings it up.

Speaker 5 (02:05:15):
Hey, I respect Western man to my high school teammates
are on there. I respect them, he said, to.

Speaker 7 (02:05:22):
Just the one that I wanted to play for t
folls because he brought this up about this is how
his daughter calls him whenever she needs something.

Speaker 4 (02:05:30):
That's why.

Speaker 1 (02:05:31):
Oh yeah, this is because Edy, my engine light came on.

Speaker 8 (02:05:33):
I'm at the dealership.

Speaker 4 (02:05:34):
They telling me, did you I'm talking about anything that?

Speaker 5 (02:05:43):
Yeah, but this year my dad just bought.

Speaker 3 (02:05:45):
Against I got to make sure you're not trying to
play me.

Speaker 5 (02:05:48):
He did do that, but I left my window open.

Speaker 21 (02:05:51):
I got a fly in here, and I'm just trying
to kill it for like twenty minutes.

Speaker 17 (02:05:54):
I can't kill it.

Speaker 21 (02:05:57):
Okay, here Eddy, my GPS is telling me to go
west on Losienia. Does that sound right to you?

Speaker 3 (02:06:05):
Dad?

Speaker 21 (02:06:06):
I just look at these new apartments, but I feel
like the floor in the apartment it isn't leveled all
the way. So what does that mean?

Speaker 15 (02:06:11):
Does that mean that the building is gonna go aft?

Speaker 21 (02:06:13):
Is it not like built properly?

Speaker 3 (02:06:14):
Is the structure?

Speaker 1 (02:06:15):
Is the foundation?

Speaker 3 (02:06:15):
And stuff?

Speaker 24 (02:06:16):
Like?

Speaker 21 (02:06:16):
Should I move here?

Speaker 24 (02:06:17):
Daddy?

Speaker 21 (02:06:18):
If we were to travel through time, would we perceive
extraterrestrial intelligence? Daddy? Did I call my husband first? Why
would I call my husband when I can call my daddy?

Speaker 5 (02:06:33):
That's how.

Speaker 4 (02:06:34):
That's how on. That's my daughter to a t.

Speaker 17 (02:06:38):
So.

Speaker 4 (02:06:39):
She lives in Los Angeles and I always have these
kind daddy. You know this, Daddy. There's a spider in
my room? What should I do? Daddy? Uh? There's a roach?
You know? How do you kill it? Daddy? I hear it?
Can I can hear traffic from the street? How do
I drown it out? Daddy? I smell smoke because of

(02:07:01):
the fires in California? What should I do that? That's
me and Seline's conversation, like every week, Bro, that's what
I do look for. So, I got two daughters, man,
and my oldest daughter eight years old. She's already grown.

Speaker 5 (02:07:14):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (02:07:15):
Is this the age in which she's trying to be missresponsible?
Miss business? Miss I can cook everything she's trying, Bro,
But you tell me that's what I do the fortune?
Oh yeah, just wait till she gets old and you
know what? You know what you can't do talk to me,
no matter how bad it is. You can't go damn
Are you kidding me? You gotta just listen and say, Okay, honey, bun,

(02:07:36):
here's how we're gonna help you. Hey, let's rock, let's rock. Well,
jab that's all for what's trending. Yeah, that's it for
what's trending.

Speaker 7 (02:07:43):
I don't I don't think we got time for mail
bad because here and I know you guys got to
record as well too, so it's like, man.

Speaker 4 (02:07:48):
Let's let's definitely get to that video from from te Fosse.
We did covered a lot today. It was fired up,
it was spirited, uh, it was at and it was
a good show man the Chat Family definitely with ham
on the light button. I think as te False requested,
he said, leave it. What I think they did that
today's teeth False Great, don't search at your computer though

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today don't such Let's get that chest passed on that
dude Justin. Oh my god, what was hey? Point Man,
that's a that's an assist to that dude Justin. And
you know what, man, this was a great show Chat

(02:08:29):
Family smash that like, but we'll see what we get
man by the end of the breakdown. A good job today,
that do justin filling in for our brother the Veteran's
property the network flannel. Sam, you brought the energy, especially
that first lion segment out the rip. You're pretty mad
at mister Craig Carton doesn't believe in the detroil lines.

Speaker 6 (02:08:47):
Yeah, kind of crazy. That's you know, an hour and
a half this.

Speaker 5 (02:08:53):
Show.

Speaker 4 (02:08:53):
Hey, shout out to intern Ryan and the legend t
false holding it down on the couch. What up though, man,
This is not Ryan, this is Joe Lewis over there
back in the day. What up done? Man? The last
words for the people te Fosse Uh. Hey, look, I'm
having a blast. Good seeing you guys have smashed that

(02:09:14):
like button. Hey, let's do it. We let's slick that
finger and do it.

Speaker 3 (02:09:19):
All right, go back and rewind.

Speaker 5 (02:09:30):
No, this was entertaining, eventful show. I think we did
a great job. And we got three chip balls in
the building, So fire up, chips.

Speaker 4 (02:09:38):
All shot up to Steve Bafi. Go one of those
mini hoop games like David Busters and some of your disputes.
Let the best sportsman win. We gotta just get there.
I've been saying it. I'm gonna I'm gonna get the
crew there. Man. Shout out to the sound booth. What
I'm doing. We had chess GPT in the building.

Speaker 3 (02:09:55):
Shout out, fire up. I hope you guys have a
good weekend. Father's Day, Happy Father's day of my day,
Every Father's Day to everybody else's dads as well, the
dads in chat shout out and uh yeah, look forward
to having a fun, fun show coming back on Monday
after a fun Tigers series. Witness put it out there early, looking.

Speaker 4 (02:10:13):
Forward to shout out the intern summertime in the building
and spinning from the heavyweight to Wiobid Sports MVP JB
Smooth in a TD booth. What up Bill brother?

Speaker 3 (02:10:23):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 7 (02:10:23):
Shout out to summer back here?

Speaker 4 (02:10:25):
What up summer? Yeah, they can see.

Speaker 7 (02:10:29):
Him summer right there.

Speaker 4 (02:10:32):
Everybody, have a good weekend.

Speaker 7 (02:10:34):
Shout out to all the fops once again, Like Chase said,
Happy Father's Day to everyone. Another episode of Wilbrid Ringside
should be out this weekend as well too. You already
got Fast and Loose. Keep an eye on the Woolward Wings.
They'll be out on Saturday as well too. And if
you want some more JB I got the not Chill
podcast another episode coming out on Saturday as well, So
just be on the lookout.

Speaker 4 (02:10:53):
Hey, support my people, support my question. Anybody heading down
to the ball park this weekend, I might actually thinking
about I will be I'm there there night night Yeah, yeah,
going to that's all Benny serious, get that fish and chips.
Broth about the burger. The burger is great. They only

(02:11:16):
serve fish and chips on Friday. Shout out to Mike G,
who says shout out to KG and Broters. Still holding
it down on the weekend content still supporting the wool
pow uh and once again that do justin great shows.
Any last words for the people.

Speaker 6 (02:11:30):
Chase, Mike G wants to bet you that Michigan will
cover against Cetral Michigan happily.

Speaker 4 (02:11:37):
Let's right, you know it is gonna be like fifty
what's it gonna be.

Speaker 3 (02:11:43):
I mean, we're gonna get a minus numb, We're gonna
have a big plus next to us.

Speaker 7 (02:11:46):
Chief thirty and a half, let's say thirty three and
a half.

Speaker 3 (02:11:51):
They're gonna give me the spread, but I take the
money line. That's how much faith. I haven't seen him.

Speaker 5 (02:11:56):
Hey, they did beat him in basketball last time they played.

Speaker 6 (02:11:58):
That's why people, And.

Speaker 4 (02:12:02):
Because I can't wait. Who won between Central and Michigan
and basketball last time?

Speaker 5 (02:12:09):
CMU Reggie Bassi up and one of.

Speaker 6 (02:12:12):
The worst periods of Michigan basketball in the last twenty
years still want You're one win over Michigan.

Speaker 5 (02:12:22):
Hey, who's got we.

Speaker 4 (02:12:27):
Visit these happenings, but your boyfriend of AKD reported water
for the network. Hey, I didn't know there was so
much passion, but I'm looking forward to it. We will
get on these campuses. False justin. We're gonna have to
make this happen. And if you all looking for something
else before Big D Energy, because you gotta tap in
with Big D Energy, gotta tap in with Armoni Edwards

(02:12:47):
and the heavyweights. We are going live on what we're business,
more side content for you guys. So uh, summer te
False myself tap in. We will see you guys shortly.
Uh and most importantly, have a blessed day. Thank you
guys for support and wake up wobard final saying we
miss you brother and shout out against to our guys
Broder and KG. Hey interno

Speaker 6 (02:13:07):
Daddy's fire up Chips