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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's time to wake Up Woodward for the most listening
to Detroit sports morning shows about to start starting your
day with a warm cup of flannel Sam, Or how.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
About a full cup of Detroit kool Aid?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Oh yeah, mixing a.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Little JB and you got yourself the Prefacer champions podcasts,
fan reactions and updates for your favorite teams.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Wake Up Woodward is live now on.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Detroit's number one sports networks, Woodward Sports.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
What if though, people, It's Wake Up Woodward for one
more time. It's the boy Brandon Dad k Detroit kol
Ad your credential pissons report a rider for the network.
We got Flannel, Sam vetteran squad better his network. Man,
I've seen this guy do a lot here in a
little bit of time or a long time?

Speaker 5 (00:49):
What?

Speaker 6 (00:49):
Three years?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I mean? Yeah? No, I've been at the network since
December of twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Been on even longer.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, been on this show this two iterations of the
show since a June of a twenty twenty three. But uh,
I think I can probably share this now that it's official.
I am still gonna be a fill in, so you'll
be seeing me around on all the shows. Moving forward,
So uh be prepared if you usually go to uh,

(01:20):
you know, the two to four slot to avoid me.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Ha, I'll be there. Are you telling me there's a
chance for a reunion. I mean sure, there'll be lots
of reunions, you know if you're there that two to
four slot. And let's just say, what about we got
Ricky in the building today filling it for KG. You
know brothers KG D, Dude Justin and Matthew Roter. But
we got Ricky in the building this morning? What up? Brother?

(01:44):
What up?

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Man, it's good to be here nice and early.

Speaker 7 (01:46):
I have to start off by saying, taking your side
chick to a concert will forever be wild.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Wait wait, wait, hold on, you are said that one
more time. I didn't.

Speaker 7 (01:57):
I didn't hear that taking your sidekick to a concert
will forever be wild.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I've actually seen it, quick, quick story.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I've seen that play out in personally.

Speaker 7 (02:10):
Drake concert the Palace maybe wait matter.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
This is years ago.

Speaker 7 (02:14):
Me and my wife were walking out, my actual wife,
so walking out, and we hear this couple behind us
arguing back and forth, and then all of a sudden, she
just screams like.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
How about I call your wife. Won't me call your
f and wife? How about I call your wife right now?
We just turned like.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yo taking your side.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
Chick to Drake concert is wild cold plays even wilder.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Sorry I had to bring that up first.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Good morning happening, what up?

Speaker 8 (02:48):
I'm here, I'm here, and I make sure I made
sure to show you guys, give you your flowers and
especially you kool aid, and especially Inlanta. Sound is something
fun and KG shout out to you for teaching me
the bull operator when I first came in because February,
you know, I never knew because because to be straight up,
last year when we were I was a park attend

(03:10):
and when I met you, yeah, and we hit them.
We hit off Bobby follow you before then and every
things you know come to place. It's just you know,
it meant to happen in February, and you start at February's.

Speaker 9 (03:22):
We had me start at February.

Speaker 8 (03:24):
And my children wanna give my flowers to you, Brandon,
because you show genius c and a very j a
very good nature, a good hearted per a good hearted person.
You show that you give people a chance and you
you feel you find out the right people to come
to come to you, and you you.

Speaker 9 (03:41):
Showed pure.

Speaker 8 (03:44):
Good will and a good team play, a good team,
a good teammate, and a good mentor to me. So
I wanna just give you my fathers to tell you
thank you for give me a chance to make me
work for you.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Guys. I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Guys, good positivity. Start this shop.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
And Willie b You've been a great addition, a great
addition to the family. And I'm glad that Hey, we're
still gonna be Battery Mads here in this booth of
the lines.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
Weekly updates show.

Speaker 8 (04:09):
Almost definitely we're still there. We're still out there with
the with the legends. I never even thought I would
sit there to see the sports writer. I grew up
watching reading, reading newspapers as a and you know, learn
how to write in high school. You know, I wasn't
good at writing, but I read Terry Foster's Oracles every
Sunday and for the Detroit Detroit News. And then to

(04:32):
see him with Sean Believe. I used to hear him
in ninety seven point one. I may I trolled on
this radio show one time until I ate some hot wings.
I ate some roster rings back in Union Street.

Speaker 9 (04:43):
That's over.

Speaker 8 (04:44):
The Yeah, that's the hottest wings. I respice it all
the place. And I hear Sean believe you with that
New York with that, with the nineteen fifties accident.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Caught.

Speaker 8 (04:58):
Caught in nineteen fifty Port And I can't even breathe,
I said. I would say, who want he want to trade?
He said, And I can't even breathe because those rosters.
Wing's got some Kane pepper and goes chili part on
the wings many Nianny he traded Kevin Jones running back
and hang up. And I hear Sean Beliez is a
cool manner. It's must to be this little brother and

(05:22):
not here with the legends like that. It's been a privilege, man.
It's like I never thought about it, but I was
like you one thing by life, you manifest what you
want to do, and you go out there and proceed it,
and you never know.

Speaker 9 (05:34):
You have half good people.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Talking about good people. Just just before we get over
to what was supposed to m v P, that's be
smoothing a TB flannel Sam. That's that's what he represented
for me for some time, a long time here, man.
And even some of the opportunities I got shout out
to people are easy. Uh you know it's in terms
of like some of our homegrown talent who they gave
me opportunities, you know, including Flannel Sam and and and

(05:58):
uh Adam Flannel Sam in Hollywood. Aya Freddy shout out
to Jeff. You know the Pistons conversations. The long conversation
is in the back, bro, when we were just encouraging
each other, Like there's things like I know that people
probably saw us doing content together probably two and a
half years after we met, but there was a lot

(06:19):
that went down behind the scenes, a lot of conversations,
a lot of times when you're wondering, in questioning, am
I gonna hold in?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Hey, y'all, you were part of that equation for me,
Flannel Sam. I just want to make sure you understand that,
and I let the people know that too, because obviously
what we do up here, so we do up here
from the desk, but what's going on back there as well.
I always we'll call you my brother.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Be behind the scenes, Woodward is greater than even the
shows assure you of. That's it's been a Woodward Let's
just say this. When it comes to people, they bring
in especially and obviously we've got reverence for guys like
getting to work with Braylen Edwards, Darren McCarty, Sean Beleijian,

(07:05):
Terry Foster, Neil Rule, guys like that, Ryan Ormanni, Titans
of the Industry, Tom Masaway. But it's like the young
hungry mfors like myself and kool Aid, and of course
guys guys guys like Willie and JB and and uh
JEFFI have Frady, Lucas, Ryan and Brady like like they

(07:25):
don't miss Woodward does not miss with those with those hires,
never they're they're undefeated, never lost.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Woover spots, m v P and the TD boof of
one of the fewest things that changes. If you want
to count on one thing, Wold, you know it's gonna
be JB smooth and at TV booth. What up though,
brother man?

Speaker 10 (07:45):
Talk about consistency, Nick, dude, you guys have said a lot.
I mean, obviously, I'm gonna give you guys your flowers
every single time I get the opportunity to, you know,
be on camera. So shout out to you, Flannel Sam
for you know, you were my first person to sit
here and actually teach me the audio booth, so like that.
You know, all praises go to you, because otherwise, if

(08:06):
that didn't go well, I probably wouldn't be sitting here.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Rod, So you already know the story that's that's probably
my number one maybe him is Spindy or sitting at
my number one number two stories of all time man
Spending when he stood up for you boy. And then
when this guy just walked in and it's and he
runs a tight ship and he just walked in and I.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
Finally got the phones right.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
They was on my head Ricky. Oh yeah, he didn't care.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
He walked in.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Show was going on.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
They looking at him like what I'm looking at him
to like he looks mad. He just DAPs me up
and it hugs me.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
He was so pumped up that I actually got the
phones working right because he was Bro. I've been there,
I've done that and it was a tight ship. But
it was just some support. He helped a lot of
us that started off there.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I feel you many a day where there were issues
with me in the phone back when I was a
salad guy on the bottom line, where I got the
wrath of a shout out to them. Great, great, great guys,
great people to work with, Guys like Rioter buddy, and
it's out bad as away, not people you want the
wrath of. But uh, you know, you learn by fire.
Eventually we all got it going.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Like who in this room got better because of that show?

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Four out of the five people in this room have
done extensive soundwork on that show. Ricky Burns still on
the new generation of the show.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, KG two, yeah, yeah, and uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
And uh JP. You know, it's funny. It's odd that
I ever taught you anything behind the scenes why you
were better than me in like a week. I'll just
say it like JV's become like the Yoda of what
the student.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
The student has become the master.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Go back over to U j B. Think you finish
your thoughts, bro.

Speaker 10 (09:44):
No, I was just saying, I mean, Plannel without you,
you know, showing me the ropes here, like I wouldn't
be in this desk right now and in this seat,
you know, continuing on doing all the morning shows and everything.
So I just got to give you your praise and
also you as well, kool A, for you know, inspired
me to kind of step out out beyond the computers
and beyond the boards over here to actually challenge people,
be a face in front of the camera, just challenging

(10:08):
me more to do more. So I got to give
you your praises, otherwise I wouldn't be doing anything that
I'm doing on the side as well too. You give
me that confidence, man, So I appreciate you. But everything
you do and everything you do moving forward, just keep
me in mind and know that I am your biggest
fan as well too.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Man. I appreciate you, guys, and just I'd be missed
if I didn't say this. I'm a man of faith and
I do try and follow in some footsteps that encourage.
So I don't I reflect all you know, credit back
to him, but it is gratefully appreciated. Man, it's the
stuff that spurs me. You guys know, when I got
into this, the people that were closest to me. You
were one of those people. Flannel and JB Smooth kind

(10:46):
of early in this journey, and Jeff and others Stick
and Joe.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
I said, look, it's about the people.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I know that what we were about to experience here
was gonna be a lot of ups and downs and
some turbulents. Ricky, you know about this industry as well.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Man, So I knew.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
If it's not about the people, I'm not gonna last.
I'm still here. Trust me, it's about the people. So
you guys man mean the world to me. And it's
been awesome to hear you, hear your thoughts man this morning.
And it's cool that in some way, shape or form
we continue on. And who knows, who knows how to
dom may turn? Hey, who knows?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Who knows? And because Ricky I don't do really any
shows with you, I can assure you even though I
might have been a little a little irritable this morning
because of the read situation, but that's all well and good.
I promise you that this is not a sad day
for me. So do not, as I've said to the
audience and to everybody, do not weep for me. For

(11:38):
I am okay nice.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I like, well, he don't understand how huge dog. I
don't do this stuff. Everyone knows he's like what friend
is like in front of stuff, like in front of
the camera doing I don't do this stuff. And it
was a specific set of shows, and it was one
last show where he came he said, you know what,
kool Ai, I just want to let you know, with

(12:04):
all of this stuff that's been going down, this was
my favorite show that I've hosted with all these different
that was a stretch it to He doesn't understand I
could even call it flannel Dogs. Yeah, that was I
didn't know what was ahead for me, but that was
huge for me. Like I'm just being frough with you.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
So no, and for the record, when I say what
I say, that doesn't mean that I'm not gonna misdoing this.
It's more of I'm choosing to be grateful for even
getting the time that I had. This is not an
easy business to break into. Some would even say, and
I'll even say this, that the circumstances in which I

(12:42):
got this position were not ideal and I never wanted
to replace said person aka Adam bay Dune. But you
know what, you get the opportunities when you can get him,
and I've worked with a great people, and like I said,
this is not the end for me at Woodard. I'll
still be a filling in on some shows and I'll
tell you what some of them most fun I've ever
had on the network is just going on shows and

(13:03):
being like that sniper. We could just come in for
a day, and like, you know, get your ship off
and then leave. You don't have to be accountable.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
Did you guys just hear him say the name Neil.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Did y'all hear that? Yeah? Shut out man, And you
know what, I'm seeing all of the appreciation and the
support from the Chat family too, and go with Detroit,
Gunny got Happy birthday to you man, Happy birthday. Thank
you for supporting us. And I see the love and

(13:31):
the support there too. And now what's that super chat
we got JB.

Speaker 10 (13:33):
Smooth yep, thank you for everyone sitting in super Chest's
first one from Dante one five to one sitting in
nineteen ninety nine, he said, so Piston Summer League game
yesterday and Tate Ratleis is finally a lion through and through.
Also I'm going to miss this crew, and how Flannel
Sam said, boom, I win, you lose. One of the
best drops ever to be created?

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Was that the same Did I say that at that
same golf outing where I basically like fought Terry Foster
and stick? It probably was, Oh yeah, that that Actually
I almost had to drive straight to the hospital after
like afterwards it was like like you know that feeling

(14:14):
where you get off air and we've all I think
we've all had this before where your nerves are just
shot and you're just like got this like intense feeling
you're actually gonna pass out. That was that day. That
wasn't the only day, but that was the one.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
That I remember.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Cag you had that one time on air and I
wish I could have gotten over and you passed out,
and I remember we were like trying to talk about
it and you came back. The people were trying to
be at your head and Cage was like, no, no, ain't,
no way, y'am doing this mo man mother having passed
out on air for y'all dog, And I was like,
you know what, that's real stuff.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
That actually did happen. I actually did pass out. I
was close that one day and actually did. It's funny
now because I was okay in like five minutes. But
I'm sure what's up.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Is your iron low or something.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I don't I don't know what happened that day.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
It's just one thing you might get that checked out.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
The good news is it's been Broder was still on
the show. It's been a while, and a shadow at
O'Neill flags at half mast this am.

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Reid, though I got a couple of mine. But I'm
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Speaker 3 (19:19):
Right there you go? Hey, I just just just lads
and that sure. But that booth though, that's what.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Shout out, No shout out to Matt Shepherd, to uh
awesome Parson, Man awesome Parson. But Alexander alonely signs for
three years one hundred and twenty three. Now, I'm just
wait a minute, he tell you what signs?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
If that actually happened. I'd be pissed even if Alexand's
only being here for forty one million year, but go on,
go on.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Three years under twenty three million deal with the Pittsburgh Stillers.
This is probably the worst kept secret in all of
the NFL.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
We all knew that he was eventually gonna wind.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Up back there, even though he ignited a little bit
of something something when he talked to if I could
dream a little bit, if it wasn't here, maybe the Lions,
and I know that, you know, our social team, to
the ceagrine of not to the likings of one mister
final Sam. You know what we did with that man,
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little bit people had their fever dream. But ultimately he

(20:16):
goes back to the Pittsburgh Steelers and they made him
the highest paid non QB in NFL history, man.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Them forty million dollars a year contracts for edge rushers.
His AAV passes Miles Garretts, who signed a four year,
one hundred and sixty million early in the offseason, by
exactly a one million. And I'll tell you what just
a side note before we dive into it, and what
it could mean for a Hutchinson extension. The Raiders, even
though they're not a smart organization, they're looking pretty smart

(20:46):
now for locking up Max Crosby through twenty twenty nine
for only thirty five and a half million a year.
And the forty nine Ers, even though they have to
do a little bit of a retooling, had a down
year last year. We'll see how they bounced back with
guys coming back. Nick Bosa is locked up through twenty
twenty eight at thirty four million a year. That looks

(21:06):
like a pretty nice bargain now. Like how we look
at how the for example, the goth and amen Rock
contracts have aged. It's the same thing with the Crosby
and a Bosa contract. And I have a feeling that
Aiden's won't be thirty five million. It'll probably be at
least forty two million a year. So yeah, he's his
his agent and him were very very happy that what

(21:29):
got his deal.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, I'm definitely sure, man, that's a that's a pretty
penny in that agent. He's catching his own Texasy two
like agent fees to the bank. Yes, and hey, why
not when you got an agent like that, that's probably
the best bill that you love cutting the check for man.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah right.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
If I'm telling you, man, if you got me forty
million dollar.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yeah, you can take four, you can take more.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
You know, here's your regular fee. You got kids?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Man?

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Right again? Him a better school here, you know, better school? Yeah, Cranbrook.
What's that thing? Where is that at? I don't know
where that is.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's a lot of money in Just in contrast, you
see the way that Brad Holmes is moving. He's locking
up his own homegrown guy is So, I don't have
a problem with this. I think that this is where
you're going to see the Lions approaching set in the market.
We just saw Kirby what he set the market for
the safeties. Uh so, I do believe that that's the
recipes for success when you are getting your cornerstones within

(22:26):
your franchise.

Speaker 15 (22:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
And the thing that's interesting to me, oh yeah, shout
out at jj Watt. I swear if this guy even
lets me begin to reach for my wallet at dinner,
yeah right, talk about it. JJ Watt's probably like, I
never got a contract like that, even though if contracts
would have been inflated during JJ Watt's time, he would

(22:47):
have been at the time. Oh yeah, because I mean TJ.
Watt might end up being a better player all time
because he's I'm thinking he might have more longevity. But
Prime jj Watt was special. I know we're all old
enough to remember in this room, but some of the
like young young guys in this in this building, like
the Adjustins of the world, they might remember a little bit.

(23:09):
But Prime JJ Watt was maybe the best player in
football for a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Justin Wathington film though.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, no, no.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
JJ Watt and Jared Allen were two players who I
respected and I absolutely hate, especially Jared Allen.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Thank you that.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Because it would work us to know.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
That hated that.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I agree with you that one.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, but it's it's funny to me, I mean, not
not funny, but just interesting that Miles Garrett and t J.
Watt they if this is the market for edge rushers,
they have certainly earned their contracts and I don't think
that either of them are going to fall off. Like
for example, Garrett's under contract for four more years or

(24:00):
or through twenty thirty, actually longer than that, it's an extension,
but he's under contract through a twenty thirty through a
twenty twenty eight I think that they're both going to
be still great players through the end of their contract.
Maybe Garrett will fall off a little bit in twenty
twenty nine or twenty thirty, but he's such a physical
specimen that who knows. Aiden You can argue that by

(24:22):
his body of work. Even though I'm the biggest Aiden
Hutchinson's stand probably in the world. He's my favorite athlete.
You could still argue that, I don't know. Has he
necessarily earned a forty one million dollars a year contract.
You could argue no. However, contracts are for what you
think they are going to do. And if you ask

(24:42):
me right now, in the next let's say five seasons,
who has the most production of the three? I would
go Aiden Hutchinson. I think all of his best ball
is in front of him. And how old is he
He's gonna be twenty five in August. Man, this guy
could be recking the league for eight more years.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Direct him to question for you, Yes, you think he's
going to reset that market?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I do, Yeah, I do, just because of what he
can do and what we expect him to do. Like
I said, he still hasn't had that full season domination
where you're talking about him as Defensive Player of the Year.
He was about to, I think, but obviously injuries betrayed him.
And obviously I have a ton of respect for what

(25:25):
he did in the twenty twenty three season, But last
year was supposed to be and I hate to keep
bringing this up, but it's, you know, last day of
why not. Last year was supposed to be his magnum opus,
his masterpiece, and unfortunately injuries betrayed him. Hopefully this year, though,
he can get back on that track and be a
guy who we look at as potentially Defensive Player of

(25:46):
the Year. I think he's going to get a crack
at at least three to five of them things.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, definitely shout out to intern no just walking into
the building, But yeah, when you look at this thing,
I do believe you're going to see a couple of
different players on the line setting them up just like
this when you're talking about t J. Watt and when
you're looking at just the edge position in particular, I
expect Aiden Hutchinson after maybe about the first couple of weeks,
first couple of games, you know, you experience, you know,

(26:12):
getting that game action, taking those first kind of hits
from the you know, within the trenches against the offensive
line as such, and getting into the backfield and maybe
over pursuing it and realizing, oh, you know, my leg
is all right. I think after he gets that down mentally,
and that's one of the things doctor Pierce says he's
gonna have to overcome. And he does believe that the
type of guy he is, the attitude that he carries,

(26:33):
the type of human that Aiden Hudson's swed himself to be,
that he's not gonna be down too long mentally. As
soon as he gets out there and gets in the
game action, he does expect him to hit the ground running.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
And I expect Aiden Hutchinson to be Aiden Hutchinson. It's
all that we know.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Like we've seen other players come back from injuries and
get right. I expect him to not just get right,
but to still be that guy that we saw go
out last year and was on an historic pace. In
my opinion, I thought he was gonna set the league
on fire. I still that's why I chuckle whenever we
talk about Ada Hutchinson, and we think about at that
at that trade deadline, at the halfway point, when they

(27:07):
were given out their half point defensive Player of the years,
and he was still.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Like top five and sacks, right, he was still up
there for a long time.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Crazy bro.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
And I guess the question is, and we don't know
the answer. Time will tell. Do the Lions get this
done soon or do they wait for him to get
a couple games under his belt, Because if Aiden Hutchinson
comes out, let's just say, either against the Packers or
against the Bears and puts up like two sacks in
his wreaking havoc all game, I mean, it'll obviously show

(27:39):
everybody that he's like back back, but I think everybody
expects him to be back back already. It's it was
a clean break. It wasn't anything like ligament tear or
anything that you think is going to linger for a
long time. If if you were told right now, five year,
forty two million dollars a year extension, how would you
feel about that? Because I would take it right now.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Five years he said forty years, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, if they did that right now, I'd be like, great,
that's probably what it's gonna take. Right now.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I feel like if he plays out this season, it's
gonna be more right, which is why maybe you should
just do it now you're doing now, I mean kids,
you're talking about another year and what you're gonna get,
whether he's gonna perform, but you're also gonna get this
compounded with that announcement of what, oh wow, more money.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
The cap is going up again.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Once that happens, Aiden Hutchs is gonna be able to say, well,
I think I'm entitled to fIF my percentage of the cap.
If the cap space goes up, then a dollar or
mind goes up. And I do believe he's gonna earn
at least the forty two. That forty two next year,
got inflation, get it done this year.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
All of his best football is in front of him,
all of it. He is twenty five years old. I
believe Garrett and Watt are both in their early thirties
or a late twenties. Ill fact check that that in
a set it could end up we could be looking
at like a five year, forty two million dollar potential
contract as a steal. It sounds absurd right now. Who

(29:09):
would have even thought, I don't know, a year ago,
forty million dollars a year contracts for Edge Rusher as well.
The market's been set.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
The Cowboys are gonna deal with the exact same thing
with one mister Micah Parsons. But unlike the Lions, they
don't have as smart of a front office. I think
that's that's a clear and I don't think that they
have as much around Parsons.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
So in one more thing, though, think about this, it's
not just that they don't have that much around them,
and it's not just that the front office and isn't
that smart? But isn't it easier giving and handing out
these contracts when you know though your team is a
super Bowl contender? Yes, that's way different because when Carby
got that money, we were like yeay, But think about
if we were going nowhere fast, we'd be like who

(29:51):
whoa whoa whoa wait wait wait?

Speaker 6 (29:53):
And so I do I believe when you look.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
At what Brad's doing, Yes, that front office has been
very very smart and identify and all the talent that's
set in the market, and aiden will set the market.
I'm just putting that on Wax on our last show today.
He's gonna set that market at edge. He's he's going
to get a higher AAV than TJ. Watt And I
believe he's gonna earn that on the field this year too.
So they've done what they've had to do, and it

(30:16):
just makes it that much easier appeal to swallow when
you see these things, and you know, when you're sweating
bullets about what's so with Azo and things like that,
sometimes there are casualties. We don't know quite if Angel's
going to be that, but we know that there are
gonna be some casualties out there. It was crazy to see,
you know, Carlton Davis go out there and talk about
y'all want to be here.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
Dan Campbell is the man, but casualties.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Man, Yeah, he went where the money's at the Lions.
I don't think we're gonna pay him what the Patriots did.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
But but it's because of how smart Brad Holmes has
been until back up your point in ways that I
don't know quite that the Dallas Cowboys have been no
And with.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
The Cowboys they're kind of I don't want to say
that they're ft, but I mean, I guess you can
say that they they have to do this with Micah Parsons.
What would they be without him? They they could end
up being in like a full blown rebuild, and I
don't know if they necessarily want to want to do that,
but with him, given what's around, not because of Micah Parsons,

(31:13):
given the entire infrastructure of the Cowboys, we expect their
ceiling to be something like eleven twelve wins in a
first round exit. Obviously, things can happen, and if the
Cowboys get in the dance, theoretically they could make a run.
But it hasn't happened since before people who work here
were born, literally prominent people who aren't twelve were born,

(31:37):
like Justin for example, was Chase born I think before
Chase was born. And Chase isn't young. I mean he's
younger than me, but he's like late ish twenties.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, he was on one of the more mature youths
that he.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Is a doing. You see him because while he like
worships his Morecus Davenport Mantle trade trade hunch.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Right, Yes, he said, Hey, I still don't understand why
we don't have the leverage and why Hutch isn't taking
a discount. He calls to us a super Bowl. He
did you can get he didn't get at least three
first rounders.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
He broke He broke his body.

Speaker 16 (32:17):
Marcus Davenport to last year big dog wondy Marcus Davenport ship,
he did nothing.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I was more impactful on last year's Lions team than
your idol, Marcus, big damn thing, big dab. That's your
day for you got me today?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
How about last day? Sweet? What was that?

Speaker 17 (32:40):
On?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
What was what was that?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
I think I remember this on a skip Bayless's last
day on a on a first take skip was still
like talking about Lebron and then and then Stephen A.
Smith was like, on your last day, Oh yes, bring
the bat out, oh.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
God, because I'm fired up, fire up man, gotta have
the batman. Hey, it's a grew I love this. Hey,
I sign up to the squi oat mill, he says,
bro I am going to miss these dona fe Lord.
He was keeping time thirty three minutes. Flannel Sam, thank you,
And all right. We've got is like somewhere smiling right now.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Oh, I'm sure he is. We've got a couple of
us super chats. I want to make sure we get
to them because one of them is from uh, it's
from somebody who I didn't expect. But we'll talk about
start with. Let's start with with a Michael Weary because
this is a very nice one. I just want to
thank you guys for making our mornings fun and bright.
May God continue to bless and keep you in your journey.

(33:45):
Thank you, Michael werry Hey, thank you shut Out and
Michael Weary as well. Everyone wished Gunny a happy birthday.
Yes before he volunteered it in the chat. He's forty nine,
he last if you wanted to, if you wanted to
keep your age a secret, we would have done it.
But you made that. But men usually don't care about that.

(34:06):
I'm thirty three, by the way, I'm forty.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Uncle Willie all.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Right and uh shod as a vet Chad member. Sam's
crashouse will be severely missed as it was a key
factor in making my day brighter. You'll always be the
easiest rangement I've ever done, so thank you for falling
for it every time. Damn it, shot, you're you're.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Shod.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
I mean this with with with with affection today. You're
a bastard man.

Speaker 12 (34:33):
You just know no.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
But guys, there's a very good chance that moving forward,
I'll do a show or two at least with Neil rules.
So the crash outs aren't going anywhere, and I'm not
predicting anything. It's just you know how how it is.
There's veterans in the industry who have families who have
long careers, deserve vacations, and we'll take them. And we

(34:59):
know d got his his He's doing a lot of things.
And a Terry Foster shout out to him for a
taking over the Monday through to in a Friday spot.
You know, he's the same thing. He's got kids who
are grown now and obviously a great life that he's
built for himself and he's going to enjoy the fruits

(35:19):
of it from a time to time. And hopefully I'll
be the one that they call to keep Neil rule
and check a little bit from time to time.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh and boots on the ground is still a thing.
Being out at the different events are still a thing.
Opening Day is gonna be Lions, if the time is
a permitting day, It's still a thing.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
And this is a Dante one five to one. Would
you accept four at one point eighty for Hutchinson forty
one forty five guaranteed? Would you think the Lions do
this type of deal? I would like to think so
they don't have to deal with everything else that's coming
up in the league. Four at one, that's a forty five.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Million okay with the AAV one five guaranteed. Do we
know what TJ got guaranteed?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I'd have to look that up really quick. But TJ's
also quite a bit older than hutch so this would
take him to what his year twenty nine or thirty season.
Let me just say this, I'm not pounding the table
for any specific contract, but if you were to tell
me that that's what they gave him, if I happen

(36:20):
to be doing a show the next day, I'll be
like cool. I he's a special talent, he's a special player.
I think when it's all said and done, when not
if the Lions hoist the Super Bowl Trophy, I think
you're gonna be looking at Aiden Hutchinson as the number
one reason why. There's gonna be a ton of reasons why,

(36:41):
because they have a great players and obviously a great coach, staff,
front office, et cetera, et cetera, But the biggest piece
I think will be Aiden Hutchinson.

Speaker 14 (36:49):
That's one hundred and eight million guaranteed for TJ.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, But but TJ's TJ's was three years though, for
one to twenty three, so the vast majority of it
was guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, I mean I think it's uh you said, uh,
let me see saying that'd be the same uh annual
guarantee thirty six million a year effectively.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Okay, Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at that contract at all.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I wouldn't be mad at it either. Yeah, that's a
that's five picks for me, p P pick definitely fair enough.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, and uh, I just saw something else that that
popped up. I just lost it, just lost the where
to go. But uh, you talked about Hutch being, in
your opinion if we hoist the super Bowl, the number
one player, the number one reason why. Yeah, like like
the top the committee. I will tell you this, before
this year, I might have disagreed with you if he

(37:43):
would have played the full season. But seeing that in
combination with what the Eagles were able to do, it
just it does change my perspective so much more. Not
that he wasn't important, but on just what the level
of importance is. And I do wonder how others out
there feel. We're sitting here right now for another edge
rusher to be a book game, because we know how
important pressures are, but do we really know how important

(38:06):
Aiden Hudson is.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
I believe this is that season, not just the.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Hype off of what he did last year, because we
are I still see some people in there and say, oh,
you're the UNI four six one game, and it's just like, oh,
my gosh, do you guys understand some of the So
even if we wanted to use that, do you understand
some of the teams that he had ahead of him
that he was going to be able to go on
lunch just the same way. And if it's that easy,
how come everybody else in the league of some high
value wasn't launching too at the rate that he was.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Oh, the people who were like backup tackles and whatnot.
And here's the thing. I'm obviously I'm not gonna do
the whole he would have finished the season with twenty
five and a half sacks routine, because that's that would
be breaking the sack record by three. I don't think
that was gonna happen. But we've talked about it before,
and I hate to repeat myself, but I don't think
I've mentioned this in a while, So I'll just mention it. Now,

(38:54):
what you're talking about is he didn't get to face
the Bears at all. Caleb Williams was by far the
most sacked quarterback in the NFL last year.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Another four s game.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Absolutely, I would say if you asked me how many
sacks he would have gotten in those two if you'd
have been healthy, I probably would have I would have
put the over under at three and a half and
I might have taken the over.

Speaker 18 (39:16):
C J.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Stroud was the second most sacked quarterback in the NFL
last year. You know, his offensive line was very leaky
at times. To put it nice, that was a terrible
choice of words as I was, Yeah, my bad. I

(39:41):
guess I guess I shouldn't be cut out under under
pressure too much. But my point is is that that's fair,
and yeah, pressure busted the pipe for me that time.
Speaking about I'm going to shut up now any who.
C J. Stroud was the second most sacked quarterback in
the NFL. If you'd have asked me in that game

(40:03):
what the over under would be for Hutch, I would
have probably said one and a half and I might
have taken the over. You talk about the Jacksonville game,
they were just a terrible team and Trevor Lawrence wasn't
even playing. You talk about the Colts game with very wild, reckless, abandoned,
not really much of a quarterback. Anthony Richardson, I do

(40:23):
think that Aiden would have won Defensive Player of the Year.
I can't prove it. I'm not gonna give him his
hypothetical trophy and act like it means anything, but those
five I'll always remember those five games. The Vince mcman
meme or whatever.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
It was, it was especially a voice the reason talked
to me about it, though I expect something special. Why
Aida Hudgerson is the run that we saw last year,
not a flash in the pan, but something that's proving
more or less the steps that he's taken in his career.
There were certain things that we wanted to see that
out of this pursuit at the quarterback. There was certain
aspects of over pursuit. But what I saw in no

(41:00):
those games was somebody who was much more under control
getting to the quarterbacks h and he did a great
job at it, obviously at a at a pace that
I thought was going to set the league on fire.
Bro if he continued. But what do you expecting, man.

Speaker 10 (41:12):
I mean I expected him to continue on his pursuit
that he's been doing as well. He's started out great,
and then obviously the injury wasn't so great for him,
as you know, it left us all hurting and wanting
a lot more with this defensive line. But now that
he's had some time off, he I'm sure he's looked
at film. I'm sure he studied a lot more from
everyone else around the league as well too. And you've

(41:33):
seen countless videos of him sitting here practicing, getting better,
trying to get gain that speed even more so, I
think he's just gonna hit the ground running. I know
we don't want to put so much pressure on him,
but I think he is putting the pressure on himself
to be better this season as well too. I mean, hell,
even saw I'm out there on the practice field practicing
with a do rag Man's.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Was proven that he was ready for getting.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
I'm glad it wasn't. I was so heavy, God, b
what has who.

Speaker 6 (42:06):
Done it for the rag I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I was just just been angry nothing times.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
Just watch him play in the future.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
And delusion a Lions fan, absolutely nothing, still cheering for
the team, but.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
You watch you got me, you got me.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
You're right.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Saying, I'll be sitting there like I'll still be cheering
for him.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
I ain't doing it all be And to be fair,
I hate anyone wears a do rag out in public.
It's not two thousand and three take off.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
Yeah, bring back and backwards journey so soon you get that,
you know, get your raging in the morning, sleeping and
bitch at night.

Speaker 9 (42:42):
So that case, take the exact that's how you do it.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
But word like it's two.

Speaker 9 (42:46):
Thousand and three alg like l back. I would try
Tacky's hell bro same.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Goals for bonnets, Let's just throw that in there.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
I would try, and I got hit to like, you know,
rolling up the back and then for.

Speaker 14 (43:01):
I'm just saying, what if we see him step out
on four field with some waves.

Speaker 7 (43:08):
I'd be angry, but I'm still going cheerful. Let's say
I'm losing, you know what.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
You know what I love about today's lineup two And
obviously I love every lineup that I've worked with. We
actually all remember two thousand and three. We're kind of
the and I get it. There's like the veteran shows
like Edwards and Shep and uh of course Neil d
Mac and Terry Foster. But today we're like the in between.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
The Millennial show.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Yeah, the perfect little like pretty much like Dmac will
call me a whipper snapper, but Justin will call me unk.
You know what I mean. You guys know xactly what
I'm talking about. So we remember two thousand and three,
I was eleven going on twelve. But those were some
interesting times.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Yeah, I was a freshman in high school.

Speaker 9 (43:53):
I was a singer high school.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yes, so yeah, good times. Oh Man.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Actually, Willy, with all due respect, I don't think anybody
to hear is calling you a whipper snapper. But that's
okay because you have that like energy that I don't
have you. And I mean that as a very sincere compliment. Yes, yes,
and you.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Got some compliments on that shirt today. Man, shout out
to Willie be Man. We got a couple couple more
items of note as relates to the Detroit Lions, and
we do we do.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I'll clean up the super chats because they're thank you guys.
They're they're coming, they're coming quick today.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Yes, that's a hit right there.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
So what if I do streams with flannel? I gotta
I gotta use that all right?

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Hey, first off, shot two one six Hutch m v P,
Defensive Player of the Year and Comeback Award loading. I'll
tell you what. The prerequisite I think for Hutch winning
m v P is to break the sack record. There
is precedent, though I believe Lawrence Taylor won it back
in the mid eighties. I know Maz would confirm that
it's not unprecedented. I don't see MVP, but Defensive Player

(45:15):
of the Year and a comeback I'm not saying I
expect it like that or bus, but I expect him
to at worst be like top three to five in
voting for Defensive Player of the Year and Comeback Player
of the Year. I mean, he's The reality is is
that if you get hurt, you become a prime candidate
for that. Did you guys know that Joe Burrow now
has two of them things, which is an awesome accomplishment,

(45:38):
but it also means he's gotten hurt a couple of
times and that's part of his story as well.

Speaker 10 (45:42):
Also heard that JJ McCarthy is a very good candidate
for Comeback Player of the Year, someone you will probably
be excited about.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Can you come back from not playing your rookie year.
I don't, I don't, I don't know'd be like his
Ben Simmons.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
Chet holme girl.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
I get yeah, because because because remember people, I remember
the days where Ben Simmons. I was a Ben Simmons fan,
and then that series against Atlanta happened when I was
the biggest tray young hater and I wanted to like
throw the TV because Ben Simmons didn't take a layup. Okay,
you know what, he didn't know how to do.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
I was just about to read this some DNC and
T and it's so appropriate. After that comment, he says, Sam,
don't got energy. It's almost that get off my long
grandfa And yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
No, that's one hundred percent fair. I am a thirty
three year old, seventy year old AnyWho, Yeah, I my property.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Ray all meets those sides.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
All meets no sides, Get rid of the pitch clock,
get rid of the ghost.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
All that all meets sides.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Rag twenty twenty five, shout out Tabitha on her wedding tomorrow. Hey, congratulations,
We've got uh three married men in this room, I believe,
and I think we can all say that that was
a one of the one of the best days of
my life. You'd probably agree as well, Ricky. Yeah, so, Tabitha,
I know you've been talking about it. I know you've

(47:12):
you've mentioned it before, and congratulations to you. And man,
when you're planning it, sometimes it feels like forever. But
then when it's when it gets there, it gets there.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
But you will enjoy it, by bye bye. When we're
planning it is when they're planning it. And yeah, we're.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Probably the worst. I think we're supposed to.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
Yeah, that's the worst part. Tell everybody the best day
of marriage is the day after the wedding. Man, that's
the best day.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
It's such a.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Planning. The wedding was the worst. Bro The wedding was great. Invitations, Yeah,
the invitations.

Speaker 9 (47:51):
Right, I'm not married.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
And you know, Willie, if that's your path moving forward,
I hope you enjoy it. If you you find a.

Speaker 9 (48:00):
Special lady, that depends.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
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Speaker 2 (58:05):
You know what I'm saying a lot in this chat,
and I gotta read this one from uh from one
Eric Allen. Let me go back and find a full thing.
Oh there it is, he says. F Man, I'm gonna
miss this lineup in the mornings. Uh. He added, wool
were pistons. That's me and the chat will we're sports,
He said. I would still shake your hands, Sam. You
guys are good at what to do. Much respect to

(58:28):
you boys.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
No, I had a couple shows a couple of weeks
ago in which I probably went a little bit too
far on some people. But me and me and you Eric,
we kumbay in the in the chat.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
So yeah, absolutely, and we'll read a couple more of
these executy says, we must follow Sam wherever.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
He goes, well as far as now goes. I'm still
gonna gonna gonna be here in some and for the record,
because I wanna, if you don't mind, I want to
transition this into a couple of us super chats so
then you can eat if you could read the ones
that you want afterwards, Rando smalls, I feel like I'm
losing a best friend, best wishes, and I want to
assure you this, Rando kool Aid is the TD for

(59:11):
Brailler Edwards with Shep, JB and KG are still gonna
be here on your mornings every single day. I know, uh, Ricky,
even though you're not. I don't know if you necessarily
apply to this, but if you're not watching his show,
you should. He's here. He's still doing sounds on the
Braillan Edwards Show with with with a Shep. But I'm
gonna be filling in as often as I can, so
you're not losing us. It's just this version is going

(59:35):
to be different. But I promise you you guys are
gonna like it. I wish I could say, but I
just can't yet. I know everyone's on pins and needles.
And you should be, but you're not gonna be disappointed.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Not at all, not at all. It's people that I
want to support, people that I'm glad to support. You
know when you when you say, you know what, if
things gonna happen that way. I like the way that
these that things are shaken out. Greg twenty twenty five,
Sam at the Desk, I will miss that. I'm definitely
gonna miss that too.

Speaker 19 (01:00:03):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
We've had a lot of good conversations. We've had some
blow ups. I think our best blow up and I'm
just I'm just picking out one because I think I won.
That one was the two thousand and four Pistons versus
the legendary KD Warriors.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
You did win that one because I made I made.
I made the mistake of I wasn't trying to I
wasn't trying to downplay the four Pistons. But if you
took it as I was. Looking back, I'm like, I
probably could have been a little more respectful.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
I told you after the show, I was like, you
know what, you don't have to play the people, man,
I had to play the my back shout out to
the chat.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Yeah yeah, and Adante one with the super chat. Thank
you as always, because I man, you've you're the cream
of the crop when it comes to a supporting Even
though it was an hour ago, a good sports topic.
We don't have to spend a lot of time on it,
but if you do, if we want to go d
even though it was an hour ago, thoughts on third
base spent au Hanio Suarez being interested in Tiger's return

(01:01:02):
as trade deadline approaches. It would mean a lot to me,
Suarez said, would that be good? Yes? Yes, and would
and Suarez I did peak really quick. He is on
the last year of his contract. He's putting up incredible numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
This year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
I believe he has thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
One home runs.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I'm gonna gonna pull that up really quick. He was
an All Star. We know the type of player that
he is in terms of power. Always had that sometimes
not the highest average guy. But this season, man, he's
putting up a eight eighty nine ops, thirty one home runs,
seventy eight RBIs. I believe his seventy eight RBIs actually

(01:01:43):
lead all of baseball. He's had multiple one hundred RBI seasons.
I think like five thirty home run seasons. If you
put him into this lineup right now. I always talk
about how this lineup is a lot better than it's
given credit for. But would I be mad at a
core of like Riley Green, Glaber, Torres, Torklsen Suarez, Hobvey Dingler,

(01:02:08):
Carry Carpenter when he gets back, Colt Keith. He's that
right handed bat that everybody wants. Yes, bring au Haineo
Suarez home. I don't know what you'd have to give up.
He is expiring, so maybe you could get away with
not any of the top one hundred guys. But i'd
probably shop like Tyron Lorenzo for example. That wouldn't That

(01:02:28):
wouldn't kill me to give him up. But I don't
even know if you'd have to. He's a expiring contract.
The Diamondbacks don't want to lose him for nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
It's interesting, man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
The Tigers are entering this rarefied air where you really
love who you have into minors and you love who
you have on your roster. Yes, and it's gonna make
improving this team one where you see.

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
The necessary sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
But they're in a position where they can really improve
themselves without having to do much.

Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
To their core.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
That's what we've seen the teams in the past that
have even kind of lapped up and pass some of
our greats. They were able to Gona make those types
of changes and tweaks at the deadline, and now we
see our tigets in a position to do the same.
Is also going to see the health of the organization,
not just the big leagues, but the minders as well.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Yes, and this is from Eric Allen. Don't forget all
star McKinstry. That was absolutely my bad, absolutely my bad
and uh WEZD three one three? How you Lee and
Young for for uh, Well, I don't think Young has
any trade value whatsoever, but how you lead? That's the
type of player that I'm talking about. Would Arizona accept

(01:03:32):
that he's not a top one hundred prospect. But at
the same time, MLBGMS, I don't think they look at
that and really use that. They make their own evaluations,
and there might be a team that really values how
you lead. Like I said, au Haneo, Suarez is expiring.
If he was had a lot of term and was
under contract for a couple more years, you absolutely would

(01:03:54):
have to give up someone that you're not comfortable with
giving up. But maybe you don't have to I still
don't think a bat should be the biggest priority, but
au hayin Yo Suarez plus a bullpen arm I'm feeling
even though I just said a hitter is not a priority, but.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
That hitter come home. He give me that one, and
think about how much Think about how much more secure
you feel going into the playoffs with that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Like like I said, I love this lineup as is, but.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
It's the Lions problem.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
We're talking about the end all be all, and not
just cute seasons or even good seasons.

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
We're talking about world series now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
We're talking about no weaknesses. I mean, the only weakness
right now you could probably look at is someone like
Trey Sweeney. But even Trey Sweeney is like up and
down in the minors. You're talking about eight guys like
you know, I'll expand that maybe double digit guys at

(01:04:54):
the end of the year that could have ops's in
the seven hundreds. You already have eight of of them
that have on a pretty large sample size. And then
you got Wen siel Perez who's come back and been
an everyday player and has been raking. Add a Haineo
Suarez to that. Make sure that with all due respect
Tray Sweeney doesn't get high leverage at bats in the playoffs,

(01:05:15):
boy oh boy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
And the way that the development staff is going right now,
who knows if these guys get the booths coming here too,
Like I mean, because we're talking about a bunch of
players who are already doing things that we didn't quite expect.
And it's because of what they have here and the
work that these players are putting in. I'm so so
glad to see a large portion of our pro sports team,
say at least three four us of them, the players

(01:05:37):
are buying in.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
They're absolutely buying in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Do you hear j Bi Bickerstaff even talk about the
buy in at the Pistons have made. We already know
that everybody's bought into the Lions, even other players like
it was crazy here Carlton Davis talk about it coming
here to the Lions and all of that, and just
instantly you buy in the Darius Smith, same thing. And
you see this with the Tigers A J. Hench, Scott Harris.
They are running not just a tight shit, but they're
one of those organizations and sports that I believe in

(01:06:02):
a few years you're gonna say, you know what those
that's one of your better organizations in all the sports.
You're gonna say that can be looked at as when
your top fifteen, top twenty best run organizations in all
of sports. Yo, Detroit Tigers, who's in the top Major
League Baseball right now?

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Yes? And Rendo Smalls? Would you trade Suarez for Montero
even up? Yes, But I don't think Arizona would take that,
would I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Taro right, let's say he could, uh can say he
can hit a home runs off him.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
He's saying we got if we got one hundred, he
would get I think it was four or.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Well, it was downing him. He was like, I'm definitely
getting at least.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
I mean, he thinks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
I love I love Brayln Edwards. He's He's the type
of he has more athletic ability right now as a
early forties guy that I do that I did in
my prime, like a million times more. He's probably the
greatest athlete I've ever spent meaningful time around. It's either
him or Lindsay Hunter. But I'd actually argue I'd actually

(01:07:06):
argue a Brailan.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
On that one.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
However, that's so disrespectful to Kider Montero. I did a
whole segment on how he is more valuable than you
think and how come playoff time and come down the
stretch of the regular season, you're going to need him
to make starts. You might need him to come out
of the bullpen. You used him in the playoffs last

(01:07:29):
year for three innings, which that's significant in the playoffs,
and he gave you an ERA of nothing zero point zero.
Kider Montero is not some bum. If you told me, hey,
Braylan Edwards could definitely hit a home run off, kent
to my ada is actually pretty good. He could definitely

(01:07:49):
hit a home run off this year's John Breba run.

Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
He just said he can get two hits. You can
get a hit out of one hundred, he said, one hundred, okay, And.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
He does have maybe like lagout. Maybe he can like
lag out a weekly week round ball because he's still
got that speed. Maybe he could lace one. Sad.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
This is our mission, bro, because our mission we're gonna
have to start getting brailer boots on the ground, first
spot bat in cases we got we got, I.

Speaker 7 (01:08:19):
Say we take him to like the ham Trammick or
something and have him do have him really just go
against the team and really take I believe him, and.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
We have to. I don't want to blaze him too much,
but he had he.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Built this case. Yesterday. You got to watch the episode
he built this case.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I was like, you know what out of one hundred pitches?

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Yeah, No, I totally get how he could do that
and and be very convincing. My thing is, I'm not
trying to just I'm not trying to Disprailer. Like I said,
he's the greatest athlete I've ever spent time around. He
was my favorite Michigan player literally ever still is. I
grew up with him and I followed his NFL career.

(01:08:55):
Was really really happy to see him get some individual
success with the Browns and then and some individual success
and team success with the Jets. Love love him. I
just I've become very protective of Kaider Montero. Of like
the people who want to act like he's Maeta or
he's Sawyer Gibson, long Kencher, Cater. I just call him

(01:09:18):
Cater or Kider. Sometimes maybe I'm disrespecting him. Kider Montero.
He's gonna bowl, He's gonna play a role. Do you
think he can if the Tigers get to where they
want to go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Do you think you get a hit off everybody's favorite
ends who ends it?

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Yes, yes, he could get a hit off of Ditrich,
but Montero is not damn right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
He says, I wanted to thank you guys for allowing me.

Speaker 6 (01:09:45):
This is in turn.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Ryan by the way, who who is a JV or
KG called him the generic two K. I want to
thank you guys allowing me to be on the show
in some capacity. It has always been my dream to
be a part of it. I love you, guys, and
I will always remember Tyres Haliburton is a bomb.

Speaker 6 (01:10:06):
You got some converts.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
And he did say that this was a show that
he watched in college and he was like when he
got the opportunity to come in, he was like, bro,
this is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
And further record work. Tyres Haliburton is not a ball.
He just had the most overrated playoff runt I've ever
seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
They will be again.

Speaker 9 (01:10:31):
Answer had to put thirty of the dominated game.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Was this the most impressive individual playoff runs since twenty.

Speaker 9 (01:10:38):
That's a point going yes, crash the fuck out?

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Ye damn what Kawhi Lebron again A d Yannis y'all
control the game. I mean it was curry, y'all kitch.

Speaker 8 (01:10:51):
Any Tory win one if he would.

Speaker 21 (01:10:58):
Yeah, congratulations on your hypothetical. People like nb A media
that are going.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
To fat at the sight of him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
That not that this guy I don't do it.

Speaker 9 (01:11:19):
He got pieces and he almost got them. He almost
had you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
That was awesome the way that aaron Ne Smith and
Andrew Nembhart hit like every clutch shot, and and he
has a better player on his team.

Speaker 9 (01:11:31):
The last three years.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Let me guess, Cad. If Cad cunning him, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Hey, hey, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
He's not good enough to telepathically guide Malik Beasley's threes in.

Speaker 9 (01:11:45):
That's not case fault.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Okay, that's not.

Speaker 9 (01:11:48):
But toy Reson came in the right place, right time
with pax O top and Ben and Ben and he
don't use those pieces. No, he don't use a p
and you'll have to put fifteen points thirty if he
want so.

Speaker 8 (01:12:03):
He put a thirty in ten assists, but he will
have to because he got pieces that he co distrip
you in that finals and he was close.

Speaker 9 (01:12:11):
They went to seven games. Okc's having trouble with him. Wow,
he's healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Oh okay, okay, lol and all caps bomb.

Speaker 9 (01:12:21):
Hey, Hey, that hater shit and Detroit ain't gonna fucking fly.
I'm telling you that right now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Detroit dabbers trying to rage bade.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Sam.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
You just said last year was going to be Hutches
magnum opus, but he was betrayed by injuries. Why is
it different for Halliburton? Oo? Aiden Hutchinson was on pace
to break the mother fucking sack record. Tyrese Halliburton, did
you here here? Let me give you this, And I
know that he got hurt, but here's the reality of

(01:12:51):
the situation. People are gonna say, I'm being a big
meani head, but fuck you, Tyrese Haliburton. In the finals,
here's what. He contributed fourteen points a game, less than
six assists per game, and the Pacers won three games.
No other star would be able to get away with.

Speaker 9 (01:13:11):
That mother fucking Achilles. Let's just get that going, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
And you know what, Hey, was he going for forty
five or fifty five in that game? He's going for Yeah,
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
We saw oh justin case four nine Superchases. I'm gonna
miss this show. Sam, What the hell of Burton, sout
out hey, Jonathan Lord hashtag what the hell?

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
And Dabborn. Haliburton played all games except for the last
three quarters of that last one, and I saw him.
He had some great performances, but that man got away
with so much midness, so many teams choking, Gary Trent,

(01:14:02):
I'm looking at you, even though I want him. In
the offseason, you sold for for for a Milwaukee. I
looked at Aaron Nee Smith going on the greatest shooting
stretch I've ever seen in my life. That's fine, that's fine,
And you know what, he also had multiple games where
he scored less than ten, less than ten, less than ten.

(01:14:25):
They won a game where he had like eleven to
five and five. They won a game where he was
I think ozero of seven from three, like he was
morbid in the first two games against Milwaukee, and they
still won because Tyrese Halibert is just really good. And
his usage was role player usage. It's still role player usage,

(01:14:47):
player factually role player usage.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
It was crazy because when we started the show, one
of the earlier comments was are we gonna get one
more Haliburton? Crash out of my mind? It was like this,
we go to we went up JV. I was like,
and we got it shot out the I see uh
look at mister diabolical over there. Put the camera on.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Is it Tyrese Johnson or Magic Haliburton, which was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Broadcast put a freaking uh moxy mister moxy himself. Remember
he did the duke move against the Lions and then
they came out of the commercial break and then like saying,
oh Barry Sanders duke move and then played freaking Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
I was like, what for that split second, Like if
I would have had something to harm myself with, I
probably would have done it.

Speaker 9 (01:15:44):
Second, he was dominant.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Booner in the chat Booner.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
It's like he has like Flannel talking about Haliburton radar shoutout,
I love you man. Flannel is saying a two time
All NBA player is bad. Wow. No, not saying he's bad.
I'm just saying that he had. People were saying. There
was literally a post on X that got probably one
hundred thousand likes. At this point, that said, we can

(01:16:11):
all agree that his playoff run was the best since
twenty eighteen Lebron like it was better than twenty twenty three.
Jokic twenty twenty two, Curry twenty twenty one, Gyanis twenty twenty,
Lebron and ad both Jimmy Butler's in Losing Efforts twenty nineteen,
Kawhi twenty twenty five, Siakam twenty twenty five.

Speaker 9 (01:16:32):
SGA And what's your point?

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
My point is that Tyrese Haliburton had nowhere near the
best individual playoff run since twenty eighteen.

Speaker 8 (01:16:41):
Lebron, Yes, he did, like, come on, like Steeles, he too, Steels.
It may be under twenty points a game and almost
ten ten assists.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
You see, Jos the dominant.

Speaker 9 (01:16:54):
It'll have to be had to put up crazy numbers
to dominant game.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
You know, Josh you saw on right, you found it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:01):
He's trying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
He's trying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
That's too ridiculous for me to even like founded.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Wait, that's what that ain't That's not Joe Burner, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
JB in his position, Hutchinson didn't even to come on,
don't don't do this. I like you're trying. You went
too far when you say hutcheson.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Way he got featured on this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
But you said Hutchinson wasn't top ted you were you
You got.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Me oh man, oh Burn, five dollars super chat. Thanks
for the sign d Mike Puck and for greeting me
like you already knew me. When I came in, I
could feel the brotherly love.

Speaker 6 (01:17:36):
Wait wait wait Burn, that was you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
I think, Oh yeah, I remember that day.

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
Shout out. Shout out, man, shout out. And I'm going
to continue.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
We're going to continue to try and make sure that
you guys are getting merch giveaways, make sure you guys
stay tapped into socials. He on the Brenda Networks show today,
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Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
With some merch.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Booner wants me to admit that hell Burton's the top
fifteen player in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
I will not.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
I will not. You know why because Shane goon and
Pascal Siaka weren't on any of the all NBA teams
and they're both better than Tyrese Haliburton.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Why you may I see Freddy felt in the chat soo.
He says at Sam Reynolds, that is a fannel of Sam.
For those of you that are not initiated. The most
painful thing to accept is when people reflect on this.
Twenty twenty four five playoffs. They will They will think
of Halle's buzzer beater and that the Pacers run more
than they will the Thunders win.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Freddy, if you touched it in KKHAM, I just want
to know you think sure I've called him miss guys.
You guys think that I act like Halliburton's a trash player.
I admitted that he's mister big shot. I'll give him
mister big shot for now. Thanks and and Freddie felt,
Why do you think I have so much rage about it?

(01:18:54):
Why do you think I came in here and literally
did hour, like a full hour, just screaming my lungs
out and trying to be the cruse, the anti Haliburt
and crusader. I know that I know the society we
live in. I don't like the society we live in.
People don't remember anything but the moment. People don't think
of any context behind any of it. People will also,

(01:19:16):
on the other hand, and because they don't like the
way Oklahoma City plays or the way that I'll even
go back to last year's Celtics teams, they'll say the
dumbest shit like, oh, they won the most oralist championship
of all time and people get mad when I when
I crusade against Aura. Oh, Aura isn't a good or

(01:19:37):
bad thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
It just is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Then stop using it as an insult. This, this NBA
Finals and this playoffs was a humpster fire.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Has an insult, though, you just use the lack of
it as an insult.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Yeah, that's why. That's why Hobby Bias is a more
popular player in Detroit than Riley Green, which is insane.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Keep that's also from the mob. I was on MB
dot com getting some clips for shop the other day,
bro and they had like this resurgence story about Hobby
Bayas on MLB dot com and the first person I
thought of, what was you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Flannel sund Well, Ricky, and I don't want to throw
too much shade. The former iteration of your show was
the worst offenders. Do you see the group chat every
time Hobby even gets a single Raylan Mass anytime anybody

(01:20:34):
else does anything, crickets crickets.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Hey, I see you in the chat, Eric, Eric Allen,
and Jonathanloyd will definitely out Lie tap in with Travis Akin.

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
We'll make sure we get you. We get you, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Taken care of man. Shout out to the chat too, man,
I'm just looking at every Everything that's coming in the chat.

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
Is epic today.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
If you haven't gotten the opportunity to go on it
and smash that like button, man, smash the like button.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Hey, Booner, congratulations to your the Pacers hypothetical championship. Come on,
let's all clap for Booner. Come on, slow clap, slow clap,
victory lapping the piecers like that actually won the damn thing.
Stop it, love you, man, but stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
He got.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Well obviously, but we can't live says you can't say that,
but like you can't say that, and and you know
what else? You know what else? This is equally annoying,
and Booner, you don't do this. By the way, this

(01:21:36):
is some people in this in this you know what
airing agrievances. Time for old flannel set The people who
say definitively that the twenty twenty Michigan State basketball team
would have won the whole effing tournament if it were played. Guys,
it's sixty eight efing teams, sixty eight. I can say

(01:21:57):
that they would have been one of the faes. You
cannot say that they would have won. You could say
that they could have won. There's a very big and
important difference in the first letter of could have not
would have. I would have bet the field because there's
sixty seven other teams, and there's sixteen teams that are

(01:22:20):
top four seeds. There's four teams that are one seeds.
Dayton fans think the exact same thing. Dayton fans think
that they were robbed. Should we get to actual topics
or should I just keep screaming.

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That was funny?

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hit that that puplist.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Man, Yeah, yeah, no, we can. We can get into
that briefly and let me oh yeah, no, if if
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Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Yeah, all right, let's see.

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Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, go hey, let me grab my dice
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the terminology before I read it yesterday. Okay, I got it.

(01:28:40):
Levi on Zerique is really the big one. Levi has
been placed on the reserve Pop list physically unable to
perform lists, and he will not be eligible to return
until after the first four games of the season. So
that's the one. That's the big one. So now that
means to start the year, they'll be no Levio, no

(01:29:01):
a Leem, and no Rodrigo. And honestly, it's not ideal
starting a season without a Leem and Levion Zerike and
One thing that Levion Zerrike also brought you was that
he did play I believe it was one hundred and
twenty six snaps as an edge rusher. He was one
of the more versatile members of the defensive line, and

(01:29:22):
quite frankly, last year he was one of their better
ones who played the whole season. Unfortunately, his career has
been up and down due to a production in injury,
which is why he got a cheaper contract. But I
still I don't like it. That means that the Lions
are gonna have to rely, probably more heavily than they
would like on tay Leek Williams, a rookie. But at

(01:29:44):
the same time, you could also say, thank goodness that's
where the Lions use their first round resources, because now
it seems like more of a need than ever. But
the overlying thing with I think it's gonna be a
learning curve with Frank ragnow being retired and with all
of the injuries to start the year. They talked about
this yesterday on a big D energy and I kind

(01:30:06):
of want to reracket and get your guys' thoughts. I
think if the Lions start the season four and three,
whatever show we happen to be doing the next day,
we should all just be like, that's awesome. Let's ride
from here, because you're gonna get these guys back eventually,
you're gonna theoretically have a more healthy team. As the

(01:30:27):
season goes on. You might have to tread a little
bit of water with the injuries and with the schedule
being tough. But if you can come out of that
first seven games going into the bye week with another
with an extra week to rest up, and then week
nine is November two, four and three vikings at home,
two consecutive road games against the Eagles and Commanders, and

(01:30:49):
hopefully you split those two and then three consecutive home games,
then you might be looking at four and three all
the way to nine and four and you feel really
really good. The point is, I don't think the expectation
should be six and one or five and two. If
they get it, great, four and three, and we should
all be very very happy if that's how they start

(01:31:10):
the year.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
Yeah, definitely, And because you look at that schedule, though,
I do believe five wins is in their future for
the first half leading up to that. By week over
those first seven games, four and three is something that
you cannot be mad at, especially given how tough that
that schedule is, understanding that the rhythm that this offense
is probably gonna require the two different coordinators. If there's

(01:31:32):
any place that I believe anybody out there who wants
to have some aspect of you know, concern with the Lions,
I don't believe that this is something to happen over
their overall season.

Speaker 6 (01:31:41):
But as it relates to before that bye week, that's
where I see.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Constant trayli where we're gonna feel the impact of those
two coordinators being different, because there's gonna be new terminology,
there's going to be new wrinkles, maybe a few more plays,
maybe a few more players that you're depending on that
weren't here last year. So I do you know, we
even heard Dan Campbell, with a team that was effectively
returning a lot of the same players last year, say

(01:32:05):
it's gonna take five or six weeks about but by
what bye week five or six, you're gonna see that
we're that deal. I mean, but even then, by week
five or six, they were still putting BTA on teams.
Oh for so for sure, that's where it's like, you know,
I expect them to honestly have a good chance to
win five games out the break before the bye week,
But four and three is something that I'm like, you

(01:32:25):
know what, you you clap your hands at that tip
the cap and you say, okay, rest up. Probably coming
through that bye week with what a limk Neil getting
back soon, if not already mat.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Yeah him, it'll be November by that point, and I
know that that's been something that Dan Campbell has said.
It's November second, so maybe they might need another week, but.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
What if they don't. But that's what I'm saying, You
get him back, especially for that those two couple of
those two to four games stretched right there. It's the
back end the book to back back to back with
the Commanders and the Eagles, and then you get kind
of some cupcakes.

Speaker 6 (01:32:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
I was gonna say, now, now I have their schedule
pulled up, so I cannot go through it four and three.
If they were to start four and three, they've got
the Vikings at home, and it's gonna be tough, but
we'd expect that to be a win. They got the
Commander at Washington at Philadelphia. My prediction is they go
one and one in those games, and I don't think
that'd be a bad thing at all. I think that
would be you'd take that one hundred times out of

(01:33:20):
one hundred. Then you're six and four. Here's the stretch
that I was referring to. Home against the Giants, Home
against the Packers, Home against the Cowboys. I think if
the Lions want to win their division, they gotta take
care of business in those games, and I think they will.
That's been the thing about this schedule. The road schedule

(01:33:41):
is quite frankly Murderer's row. But the home schedule, I mean,
the toughest one Tampa, which is gonna be a tough game.
They're gonna be good. You know, your divisional games like Minnesota.
You know how good they were in the regular season
last year. I mean, but the home schedule is where
the Lions are really going to have to eat. The

(01:34:02):
good news is if you can just tread water in
the first seven games, anything above that would be great.
But if you can just tread water, you might get
You're looking at getting some guys back, You're looking at
the schedule lightning up, and you're looking at potentially that
eleven twelve wins season, which we all hope and think

(01:34:23):
that they will have.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
Yeah, definitely, And you know what I'm looking here, jd Nfl.
I save this from the beginning of it. From the
beginning of the show, he put Lions can go seven
to ten if there are two injuries on the offense. Man,
I don't even want to wish that mojo on anybody,
So I definitely not. I actually believe you know, all
things even and equal and just getting your guys back healthy.

(01:34:45):
You know that this team is going to go through
a couple injuries. All football teams do. But I expect
this team largely to hopefully not have the historic catastrophic
bottom fall out that they did last year that was horrible.
But I do believe that this team is a little
bit more roll us as long as you have Jared
Goff standing upright. I believe that this offense is robust enough,
it is talented enough, it does have the playmakers enough

(01:35:08):
to still keep all of your expectations ahead of you.
Quarterback is always gonna play a big, a big role,
and that's why I get your frustration earlier in the
week as related to wanting them to be able to
have the backup quarterback position figured out, even if it
was to be able to go out there and play
a drive or a quarter or god forbid, a freaking game,
you know. And so I don't know. I don't think

(01:35:30):
that the Lions are as fragile as you lose a
player here or there and then all of a sudden
that wrecks everything. I think that you literally have to
take about twenty plus players away, and even then, even then,
they still didn't go out there and get blown off
the face of the earth by the commanders.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
If one of those injuries is Jared Goff, then I
could see the worst case scenarios the only one, but
ray the offense on the offense, that's the only one.
And to me, as long as like with the injuries
that that we're looking at right now, the the stone

(01:36:09):
cold guarantees no Levi, Noah Leam, no Rodrigo on the
defensive side of the all those are the fact that
I still have him going four and three despite all
of that, despite the tough schedule. That shows you what
I think about the Lions, Because hopefully you can maintain
a healthy Hutch, a healthy Kirby Joseph, a healthy Brian Branch,

(01:36:33):
a healthy dj Reed, tarryn Arnold, a Meek hopefully comes
back and is and is himself again. The linebacking corps,
you can survive with Jack Campbell, Alexanzeloni, and Derek Barnes
if that's what is at their disposal. Hopefully Alexandeloni gets
done soon. But if that's the three plus who I
already mentioned, you can definitely do better than tread water,

(01:36:57):
Like even four and three. I think I think calling
four and three with that schedule treading water is a
little disrespectful. You can still play good football and then
think to yourself, man, the best trade deadline reinforcements are
the guys coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
And I see zuper Bowl Wilson, he put tran Water.
We were just fifteen and two. Wtf are we talking about?
And that I was gonna ask you this question, like
I get it. Everybody says it's not gonna happen. You
can't run back that type of success. People are expecting
ten or eleven wins, but I'm not. I do. I
am bullish about the Lions being a twelve or thirteen

(01:37:33):
win team this year, and I do wonder are we
underestimating a team that still for two and a half seasons,
has not the Detroit Lions. Your Detroit Lions people have
not lost back to back games in two and a
half seasons, and they went undefeated on the road, undefeated
in the division, despite all of the odds that they
faced last year. I do believe that Dan Campbell has

(01:37:53):
something figured out about this regular season.

Speaker 19 (01:37:55):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Here's what I'm saying. I'm not no. And for the record, Bro,
I think you're being a little bit of a boner
with that comment. Just a little bit, just a little bit.
Here's what I mean by that. When I talk about
treading water or going four and three and maybe going

(01:38:17):
eleven six and six, twelve and five. My point is
that as long as they win the division, going fifteen
and two fourteen and three really doesn't mean a whole
lot what I like the like. And for the record,
I've been consistent about this. Winning the division is absolutely imperative,

(01:38:37):
But going fourteen and three fifteen and two might not
be any different than eleven and six, twelve and five.
This is a very competitive National Football League. It's a
very competitive NFC. Like you could maybe get the one
seed with twelve and five. Honestly, now you could.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
You could. And I was gonna say just to back
that up for me, even though I'm gonna take a
more ya, I've been tageous approach to the wins totals. Yeah,
I'm looking at the twelve thirteen wins. Go out there
and do your darn thing. Because now you're talking about
you're healthy. Now you're talking about you have more guys
back than last year. So even though the schedule is tough,
I remember what people said to the beginning of the season,

(01:39:14):
all this schedule is tough. The schedule is tough.

Speaker 6 (01:39:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
I do. I expect them to go out there and
to be able to put off a season that's gonna
be a little bit different. You can put people, you
can put people to sleep, like Nicholas Duncan. All right,
he says, four weeks, it'll put them at rest. I mean, no,
put sleep, put them at rest, put them at ease.
Nicholas Duncan says, four weeks missing the league. Guys, we
might have issues winning versus teams like Ravens and maybe

(01:39:39):
away games like the Packers. Well that's not we never
beat the Ravens. But the press one.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
I would say to that, as long as it doesn't snowball,
that might mean nothing quite frankly, and I think Neil
rule shout out Neil Rule. I'll give him credit when
he's right and also kind of a you know, rail
against him when he's wrong. I think he laid out
the first seven games pretty well. I don't think there's

(01:40:07):
any shame in going to Baltimore and losing. I don't
think there's any shame in going to Kansas City and losing.
Even though I know people are really gonna want to
get that one, it doesn't mean much ultimately. And here's
what he said. And I think that this is relatively fair,
even if I don't necessarily agree. He said he expects

(01:40:28):
the Lions to go one in one against Green Bay
and Cincinnati. If you told me that, I would probably
take it. I know losing to the Packers would be
would suck, but at the end of the day, sure, sure,
But at the end of the day, at the end

(01:40:51):
of the day, though playoffs, if you lose, let's just say.
And I don't even think I have to knock on
wood for this one, because it's ultimately not that huge
of a deal. If the Lions with their three injuries
on the defense, with adjusting to know Frank rag noow
go into Green Bay and lose. I don't want to
hear any panic the next day. It's not that big

(01:41:12):
of a deal. That's actually kind of a potential spot game.
Would it suck a little bit, sure, but it does
not matter as long as the Lions rebound. If they win,
I'm not gonna lie. I'll probably wild out a bit,
but that would be such an amazing win because there's
a lot actually that is stacked against them. If they

(01:41:33):
can overcome that and go into Green Bay and win,
sure I'll be wild. I'll be wild and crazy. But
when you're a good team, when you're a good team
with with with expectations, yes you can have it both ways.
You can go crazy when they win, but if they lose,
kind of treat it as no big deal because at
the end of the day, playoffs and success in the
playoffs is the ultimate measuring stick, and you're not nothing's

(01:41:56):
gonna be derailed if you lose in Week one.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
Nothing because you know what is says I have championed
this that they have not lost back to back games
in two and a half years. Yeah, you know what's
gonna happen. So and when it does when it does,
we have to be okay. I'll let y'all know, I'm
telling myself, I'm looking at you right there in the monitor.
Be okay. You'll be still okay when they would lose

(01:42:20):
those back to back games. Why because we understand. You
know the DNA, you know the identity, you know the
makeup of the squad. You saw it, you were in
the trenches with them. Hey, you know that this team
a loss here or there, everything is still in their control,
everything is still in front of them. In a way
that Dan Campbell has continued to motivate these guys even
after those losses, even after down performances from individual players.

(01:42:44):
That to me is what I ultimately believe in in
this Detroit Lions team. And I do believe regardless of
the start to the season, through the first seven games,
at the end of the year, you're gonna be talking
about NFC North Division champions A, another season of the
Lions being the Kings of the North.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
A and Charles McLain. This will make everyone happy. Bates
kicks the sixty two yard or as type ek spires
and the Lions beat the Ravens. Know I was gonna say,
there's no there's no women in the room, right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
No off the off. I needed to bounce and then
bounce again and then go through the upright.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
No women in the room. Remember how I mentioned something
about fapping earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
That will be me, right, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
Hopefully my wife's close enough by so that I won't
have to.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
But you never know.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
That's doing that in front of your wife is diabolical.

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
Yeah, Ricky, I don't want to pass, but I have
to pass it over.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Explain.

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
You gotta live a little life, man, That's all I
gotta say.

Speaker 9 (01:44:00):
Need one off, you gotta get one fall Ain't got
no choice.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
You got if you aren't giving on, you got something
on the show.

Speaker 9 (01:44:09):
All kinds of ship, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
So you guys are true Jake Bates fans of Master Bates.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
Hey shot that. That's actually a very good comment. You
look good today.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
Man Shout to six, Shout out man Toime Hard said
perfect shot.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Freddy felt three one three. I don't know if I
could read that. I can't read that. Please read that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
No, I didn't laugh at this comment that JB is
about to read. Sweetie colaid out there. I did not
laugh at whatever he's about to read it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:42):
Was, and very person has to read this comment.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
I got you give me, give me every one three.

Speaker 14 (01:44:48):
He said, wives are sometimes the reason we have to
fat flannel.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
I can't. I can't. I wasn't laughing that reason I can't.

Speaker 7 (01:44:58):
Do it?

Speaker 9 (01:44:58):
Why are sometimes of reason we have to flap?

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
Damn right?

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
We expect.

Speaker 9 (01:45:05):
You gotta get your shirt off.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
That is.

Speaker 9 (01:45:09):
Specially pen on frustration. Ain't hold out for two or
three months, and you know two or.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
Three months, girl, that's a jail sense.

Speaker 6 (01:45:20):
Do the prices right well when they get the price wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
Yeah, Ricky, I got that one. I'm already I was
gonna say, Ricky kool aid. If you feel comfortable answering it,
go ahead. If you don't, don't. Two or three months
is not an actual thing. That doesn't end.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Not in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
No days happened.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
We don't.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
So you're, oh, well, okay, I got your pa and
I got to even Freddy felt.

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
Yeah, I'll be honest. We go in my house. We
do the seventy two hour rule. Pretty much.

Speaker 7 (01:45:54):
After seventy two hours, I can basically you know it's
open season.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
That's not a bad way to go. Like I were
to maintain marriage advice yea. It has to be something
that is regular and you both are meeting each other's needs.

Speaker 7 (01:46:11):
It's necessary. Oh, just give you update on the phones. Uh,
it's our fault. We don't have outputs so I can
hear the people calling in.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
They can't hear us, and.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
A lot of you have been wondering the last show
without that. Yeah, the phones have had their issues for
a minute now.

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
It's not phones, it's a laptop.

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
That's the laptop. Okay, okay, paradox.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
If you can't send me one, uh send me a
v mix link. I know. I'm gonna see if mister
dev Dev the Dog wants to at least one thing.

Speaker 14 (01:46:42):
Yeah, yeah, I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
Let's see if we can do something.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
And uh, a quick message to my wife. I'm laughing
because what Freddy Felt said was legitimately really hilarious. I'm not.
It's not something where I'm like, yeah, I know that feeling.

Speaker 9 (01:46:58):
It's just really that's why I can't get married.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
I probably really.

Speaker 9 (01:47:07):
Great thing, but I don't like to wait.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
You will have more of it when you're married than
when you're not married.

Speaker 9 (01:47:12):
Yeah, when you're not marry, you got selection what you're
paid for or you paid for it, and.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
It's it's looked at. It's good in the eyes of
the Lord.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
Well, no, thank you, Ricky. That is no guilt, nothing
like no guilt.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
No man, it is.

Speaker 9 (01:47:41):
So low down, dirty man in my past.

Speaker 4 (01:47:44):
And that's why you have to be the example. You
have to be the example that you want to see.

Speaker 9 (01:47:50):
I did the right way and cost me trouble. But
that's okay. But you're right, absolutely right, all joke aside
what you got.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
No, it's just you know what. I don't want to
ruin it with with with actual football. But weez he
threw and three we beaten the Ravens. I'm tired of
this ship. Hey, I hope so, but but but weezy,
I know Lamar is your favorite player, so uh, I
know that's gonna be one where you have some dual loyalty.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
So we'll see. I imagine him sitting in a room
somewhere like you are when the Lions beat the Chiefs.
Brian branch is running down the field. How did you feel?

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
I felt great?

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
But I also here together.

Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
Yeah, but I also remember too thinking and I'm dead serious.
They're gonna blame my homes for that, and Canarius Tony
dropped like a pass right in his hands. Hey shout
out Branch though for a taking that deflection and taking
it to the house though, that was like that was
his welcome to the NFL and he really hasn't left since.
What a debut man. That was the only pick six
the Lions had all season that year.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
That one is you talk about a career moment, because
that's a big home. That's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
That's a big deal because like I know that the
Chiefs like they're the Chiefs. It's week one of the
regular season. Ultimately, it didn't matter. They got the last
laugh over the NFL. They won on and won the
Super Bowl. But for a team that's up and coming
that still hadn't made the playoffs yet, that was a
defining moment. The Chiefs say what you want about them,

(01:49:22):
They've had a run that one of the greatest runs
in NFL history. And the fact that the Lions were
able to really that was their spring I know, the
their springboards were literally going to Lambeau and ending Aaron
Rodgers' career there and then going to Arrowhead and beating
the defending champions. That's about as good as it gets.
I've never even thought about that until right now. That's
pretty that's pretty freaking awesome.

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Let's let's get the you know, let's get to the
guests first and then we'll read some super checks. All right,
ladies and gentlemen, Devin the dog is in the house.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
What up?

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Do?

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
What up? No? Brother man, thank you for your support.

Speaker 5 (01:54:42):
Thank you, Thank you guys.

Speaker 17 (01:54:44):
I want to say thank you guys for your support. Man, man,
I want to make a quick and simple man plane.
I never got to tell you this, man, but thank
you from the bottom of my heart. Me and my
dad never really had like a bonding connection and which
you did to me that day when ironically you had
no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:55:03):
You initiated a fuse in my heart when you call
me stupid that day.

Speaker 17 (01:55:08):
I called in because Jeff and Lucas was like, yeah,
you know what, we're not gonna allow Plannel to talk
about Jamo this much, and we're gonna bring in this
new this one guy we never heard before. And you
two and me a new one. But in that process,
do you tear me a new one? I analytically start
reading books.

Speaker 5 (01:55:25):
On figure out.

Speaker 17 (01:55:25):
Okay, why is he saying this about If he's saying
this about Hutch, Why is he saying about Hutch?

Speaker 5 (01:55:33):
If he's saying this about Neil? Wait, Neil's wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
It was like, wait, he wasn't right.

Speaker 17 (01:55:41):
It grew this knowledge, It grew this love of Detroit
sports that I've had since I was a kid.

Speaker 5 (01:55:47):
And I want to say thank you.

Speaker 17 (01:55:48):
Planning over from bottom of my heart man in person,
like I have social anxiety, So like seeing how you
act person versus how you act on camera, my literal
spiritual animal, on my aggression, my anger.

Speaker 5 (01:56:01):
You are literally what the black people like to call
us a naysayer moment.

Speaker 17 (01:56:10):
Never changed who you are because I appreciate the hell
out of you and kool Aid.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
It goes from kool aid.

Speaker 5 (01:56:15):
To all the brothers at what we're sports man.

Speaker 17 (01:56:18):
Seeing you guys have a representation that where you guys
come from and where you guys have built off of you.

Speaker 5 (01:56:24):
Just seeing how you guys have built yourself as grown
man man. It has reflected me and made me switch
from the person who I was before who I am now.

Speaker 17 (01:56:33):
I carried myself a whole different way based off of
the interactions I have had with you guys and seeing
how you guys interacted as a family.

Speaker 5 (01:56:41):
As a whole.

Speaker 17 (01:56:42):
We've all come from all different backgrounds, and just seeing
how we have came together and how you guys have
pulled everybody together. Dude, I had met people that I
never thought I would talk a day two about sports
and having content with people on the daily and building
these relationships that now I'm bidding fitting from that.

Speaker 5 (01:57:00):
Like all, I gotta say, man, thank you, thank you
for giving the kid.

Speaker 17 (01:57:04):
From insert that never really had the opportunity, never had
the investors to have his back.

Speaker 5 (01:57:10):
Appreciate you, man. I I I cry every time y'all
y'all bring up my clothing line, man, because it means
to worlds me. No one believed in.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Me, and y'all did.

Speaker 5 (01:57:21):
And I appreciate the hell out y'all. I wish nothing
for the best of y'all. Man, No Gilky hell on
every damn show you are on.

Speaker 17 (01:57:28):
I don't care if it's some Monday through Friday, if
we lose a game, I need to hear plan on them.

Speaker 5 (01:57:33):
Calling out the worst player on that fucking team, I swear.

Speaker 17 (01:57:37):
But at the end of the day, woo whatever whoever
comes at the next man, I wish nothing but the
best for y'all. Devin dog signing out one more time, JB.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
Let's get to what's trendon dog.

Speaker 3 (01:57:52):
Mann in the walk off? In the walk off, what
to say? I'll tell you what too, Devin. We've got
more in common than you think. I am doing what
I do and even interacting with everybody out in public.

(01:58:13):
It's scary for me. Trust me. Every day. I get nervous.
Every day. My nerves are on like a ten. So
but like, gotta do what you gotta do. If I
can do it, anyone can do it. I struck. Shoot,
you should have seen how bad I was with girls
until I was like twenty four, like dead serious, Like

(01:58:34):
I was like the virgin in high school type. And
I'm not saying you were, But in terms of social anxiety, yeah,
I know the feeling you still have it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
That's that's that was probably the part of my story
that I left out when I touched. I just love
being a producer and I found comfort in it, and
I'm glad.

Speaker 6 (01:58:51):
But the social.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Anxiety, the debilitating nervous syndrome, having to suppress the nerves
at like fifty million miles a minute for interviews and such.
But y'all don't understand like the power of the encouragement
in the brotherhood here. Yeah, that's changed so much over
the years, and so it's it's been a project. When

(01:59:12):
I heard Devin speaking, I was like, bro, I understand
exactly what you're talking about. And to be able to
have this opportunity, that's why I turned it back as
well to the chat. You guys have been literally the
biggest part of this thing. Man, it's been encouraging. It
was a lot of up and down, a lot of turmoil,
a lot of change, but we developed something pretty pretty
cool as related to our relationship between us and the

(01:59:33):
chat man.

Speaker 6 (01:59:33):
So shout out to them, YANDIA super chats.

Speaker 3 (01:59:37):
Right, we do have some and Ryan Golinsky said, Oh Jesus, Ryan,
if you're struggling, it's not too late. But if you're not,
congratulations to you, because your young man experience is probably
a little bit better than mine. But my late twenties
and early thirties has been much better. We do have

(01:59:58):
a couple of a super chats. There's a couple interesting ones. Hey,
back to the football, Dante one to five to one.
Baltimore has been a house of horrors for every NFC team,
no matter who it is, unless you're the defending Super
Bowl champ Eagles. Last season, one of the strangest stats
you'll ever find is that Lamar Lamar Jackson started Baltimore
Ravens team is twenty four to two against NFC opponents.

(02:00:22):
The problem is they can't beat their AFC opponents in
the playoffs to get to the super Bowl where they
would face a said NFC team. It's a very Lamar Jackson.
What a strange, interesting career. What a super Bowl MVP
would do for that man would put him into rarefied air.
He hasn't gotten it yet. He's also synonymous. He's early

(02:00:45):
Peyton Manning.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
That's what he is.

Speaker 3 (02:00:47):
Look at Peyton Manning's early career, look at Lamar Jackson's.
It's eerily similar.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
So I hope he doesn't have to wait as long
to get that young get it done.

Speaker 3 (02:00:54):
So well, let's have the Lions get one and ye.
Well here's here's what I say. Let's let the Lions
get one or two. I'd rather personally have Josh Allen
get one first because I like Alan a little bit better.
But then Lamar can get one. Let's all you know,
Burrow get one later to let's have the Lions get multiple.

(02:01:15):
I'll sacrifice another Patrick Mahomes one if it means that
more of the great qbs can eat. That's saying a
lot for me. Mahomes' legacy is set, those other ones
are not yet. They're all Hall of famers, but playoff,
the ultimate goal, has eluded all of them.

Speaker 2 (02:01:32):
Do we have any more chats? Definitely?

Speaker 3 (02:01:36):
Okay, burn Since two thousand and only four number one
seeds won the Super.

Speaker 2 (02:01:39):
Bowl, you send me one more. JB. Smooth, Yeah, yeah,
I'm our special guest, is said he get in a
blue screen.

Speaker 3 (02:01:45):
And burn one more to I think it was to
super Bowl winning years are rarely a team's best season.
They're usually mediocre or decent with pretty weak starts. I'd
have to go I'm not gonna do it, but if
I had and wanted to, I think you could go through.
It'd be interesting exercise. I know that. Weirdly enough, winning

(02:02:06):
fifteen games has been a curse recently. I know what
happened to the Panthers they lost in the Super Bowl.
The Packers that Aaron Rodgers Superman season, they lost in
the first round of the Giants. We know what happened
to the Lions. It was a little different because it
was fifteen and two undefeated regular season teams are one
in one in the Super Bowl, which is why do
you think they'd be two to zero? So there might

(02:02:27):
be some merit to that. But there's also been a
lot of teams that have went through their respective conferences
by just playing home games. I think there's a lot
of variety in the history.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
All right, let me see you.

Speaker 10 (02:02:40):
I'm trying to get these links in over because we
got two out right now and I'm still getting.

Speaker 14 (02:02:44):
The black screen, so I'm like, I don't know what's
going on.

Speaker 6 (02:02:49):
Well, we'll see if if we can get the guests.

Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
If not, we'll definitely Well we'll set up some type
of stream at a later time as well.

Speaker 6 (02:02:56):
But do you have anything for Western?

Speaker 2 (02:02:59):
Do we have the.

Speaker 4 (02:03:01):
After ten o'clark?

Speaker 14 (02:03:02):
I don't know who you got it.

Speaker 6 (02:03:03):
Yeah, I'm sitting like that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:07):
We ZD three went three, No, weez D three one three?
Very I have to respond to this because it's very
flannely in mahomes legacy set. Yeah, he's QB three behind
Tom and Joe. Oh, the horror, the horror of being

(02:03:28):
the third best quarterback of all time after what how
many years as a starter? Seven years as a starter.
I'm not mad at that take. I would take Mahomes
over Joe Montana personally, and I do, in my heart
of hearts, believe Mahomes is better than Brady. He just
needs to accomplish a little bit more. But QB three
Not mad at that, Not mad at that. QB three

(02:03:48):
is pretty appropriate.

Speaker 2 (02:03:49):
I'd say he will. Let me see, Man, you got
to throw any last comments in there. We're definitely try
to get.

Speaker 3 (02:03:57):
Some man better, but not greater in my opinion, if
that makes sense.

Speaker 6 (02:04:03):
Lord, hug it out, hug it out, hugged all.

Speaker 2 (02:04:04):
I give you that. Hey, of course, it's an epic
wake up Woodward in Morning Woodward Show. Before this, man,
when we talk about the vetter, the squad vetter, the network,
You've been through a lot of these changes, so and
moving forward. You know, I'm still waiting for the network
to make the official announcement of the new morning show.

(02:04:27):
I know we saw some graphics, some things that are
on the way. You guys are gonna be pleased with
the Morning show Man. It's some good people. It's gonna
be some good conversation.

Speaker 6 (02:04:34):
Some good banter.

Speaker 3 (02:04:35):
And I love what you know.

Speaker 6 (02:04:36):
Once we know what the booth is gonna say the same.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
And I love what KG is doing right now to
try and make sure as well, uh, to bring even
more production value. So I think it's gonna be a
I think I know what's gonna be dynamite and hoping
you all throw your full support behind it.

Speaker 3 (02:04:51):
Oh yeah, oh, no, support support everything they're doing here,
and all of us are still here in some capacity,
including JB and KG, who are same job they've always done.

Speaker 2 (02:05:06):
Let me see here, hey, First Mind said, love y'all one,
best wishes to the whole show.

Speaker 4 (02:05:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:05:12):
He says he's leaving the country soon, but still will
be holding it down for Detroit Sports. First.

Speaker 6 (02:05:17):
Ay, be safe wherever you're going, man, be safe.

Speaker 2 (02:05:19):
Shout out to First Mind, trying to see Steve O
baby cool aid, I'm gonna miss every single one of
you guys. This isn't goodbye, this is I'll see you
when I see you. In the words of ft R
Top guys out, Jay Hart, shout out to the WO crew.
Kool A. Ron Holland is his mailbag. It's a possible
six Man of the Year in two seasons. He will
be a role for us, much like nas Reed. Not

(02:05:42):
comparing players, but roles. Let's see what Roland does. I
like the energy bout the summer league and we all
luck what we did last season.

Speaker 3 (02:05:49):
Yep, very very good rookie season.

Speaker 6 (02:05:51):
He in Exavier D.

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
He says, Woo crew, let's gold it. Let's right, we're
going from Broder Ay broder shout out to WU crew,
especially Flannel and kool Aid. Today, he says, he was
listening all show and another great one. Proud of you
to him. Thankful for your friendship. This is just the beginning.

Speaker 3 (02:06:09):
Thankful for yours too, brother, Thank thank thank you very much.
This We had some good times back in the day
and you guys already.

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
I'm not gonna stop until we get a WOOO podcast.
We gotta get together at these one time a week.
We'll figure something out, figure something out. We will figure
something out. Jess Pass, I see Mark. I'll miss you
guys man. I love you guys as a duo. It
was dope. Man, you talk about duos, I definitely gotta
say shout out to again. Jeffire Fredy.

Speaker 3 (02:06:36):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:06:36):
I remember when opportunity popped up, Brot Yeah, I said
he'd be wanted to host the show with me and you,
which was epic. And you guys already know how you felt,
especially when you finally got certain opportunities.

Speaker 6 (02:06:49):
You know how you felt.

Speaker 2 (02:06:50):
So the first person I actually reached out to after that,
it wasn't Queinn kool aid. In that instance, it wasn't
my mom. I did say a quick prayer, so God
was in there first. But jeffire Freddy and we had
if y'all know, like me and Jeff y'all know, like
we're close, Yeah, hit him up. We talked for a
long time and he was like, Bro, if there's anybody else,

(02:07:11):
it's you, anybody, And before we knew what was gonna happen,
he was like, brom, I hope it's you on the
desk for Flannel.

Speaker 6 (02:07:17):
I hope you guys get something.

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
And to be able to have that type of support
from our brothers, that's the same reason why it's like.

Speaker 6 (02:07:22):
You know what, as things change, we still continue to.

Speaker 2 (02:07:24):
Support Why because that's our whole inclusion here. All of
this is because of the support that we give each other,
no matter how the Rubi's cube at what we're sports changes.
I know that we got some soldiers share some dogs
here that literally would go to bat for us.

Speaker 6 (02:07:38):
You can't buy that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
You can't work for that, except for being in the
trenches next to somebody else. And that's the type of
stuff that's like, you know what, I look back on
it and it's like, you know what, you'd rather have
had this situation and or not, And I'm grateful for.

Speaker 3 (02:07:52):
It was ever Bros. That's why I'm so chill about everything.
This is an opportunity of a lifetime and I had.
It's a hard business to break into a very we
we all, every single one of us in this room
are like radio veterans, Like seriously came from radio, Like
we understand how.

Speaker 4 (02:08:10):
Still on the radio?

Speaker 3 (02:08:11):
Yes yeah, yeah, hey yeah, listen.

Speaker 6 (02:08:14):
To uh four four people say on radio?

Speaker 3 (02:08:17):
Fun fun, fun fact. I was doing a bounce event
I think it was the Taco Fest and I heard
Ricky Burns his name on the radio and.

Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
Three to seven check me out, shout out, shout and
let me see hey see the love pouring in from
the chat. Let me see here, Sean Hart, he says,
miss your boys, do good things, Sammy Mark, I'll miss
you guys. Man, I love you guys as a dude.
I did read that one earlier. I saw another one.
Where was it at here? Jay Hart, he says, such
a bitter sweet day, Detroit, davert through in three. Thanks

(02:08:48):
for the entertainment and last wool Crew, wish you all
the best. Freddy felt three one three, my brother who
helped us start our day the most important time stot
for the Chat family. Thank you for always bringing the
passion and energy for Detroit sports every day.

Speaker 6 (02:09:03):
You deserve all the flowers.

Speaker 2 (02:09:05):
Thank you. Hey, shut up, man, I see Malie Peterson.
Kool Ai, we're gonna miss you, Brouh Flannel YouTube man,
Official keeper of the Jamo. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Don
p put that in all caps. Bro. Let me do
you better, kool Aid, We're gonna miss you, bro flannel
YouTube man, the official Keeper of the Jamo allows you
on the bandwagon.

Speaker 3 (02:09:26):
Got I got this jersey. I got this jersey. Mota
City down p man, I got happy to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
By the way, Hey, you know what I gotta say
it up to Aligna. She actually she showed up. We
were doing the bell ringing for Salvation, Uh yeah, the
great yeah yeah, and we were out there with masks
and everybody knew mass there, but there was one person
who showed up and knew who I was, and that
was Aligna, and she was like, man.

Speaker 6 (02:09:51):
Shout out to you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
I tap into you guys the show, so it's dope
to see you in here to throwing your support. She says,
thank you kool Aid and Flannel for all the passion
and heart you put into the show. I appreciate you,
wishing you the best in everything you do. In her
her husband showed up and I know they're good friends
of Neil too. They said they try to support all
the network, but she says she was really fond of
what we were doing here on our show. So it's
cool to see people tapping in, showing up and saying

(02:10:14):
what up though, And for.

Speaker 3 (02:10:16):
Those of you who are asking for now, I'm gonna
be a fill in so you might see me on
whatever show.

Speaker 2 (02:10:26):
And if I see him in the beddom, I'm just like,
let's go live after this show.

Speaker 3 (02:10:31):
I'm not always here, but I'm always here. The specter
of me is always hovering over. It's kind of like
how the specter of Neil is always like hovering over
to I feel like I might have that same effect,
probably not.

Speaker 2 (02:10:44):
To John Hard.

Speaker 6 (02:10:45):
I I am staying in house. Brother, I am staying
in house.

Speaker 2 (02:10:48):
And exevier D says WU created and that's thank you
my brothers here exactly.

Speaker 6 (02:10:54):
I will always say that man.

Speaker 2 (02:10:56):
Exevier D also says WU created a family that's not
going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:11:01):
It's about to say, if you you're not gonna miss
Koolid too much, you can see him in four hours, right.

Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
It shout out, Ricky, Let's get this as fast going. Yeah,
you know I lived that spinny life now, man double
sow dude, the South to Spend dog, who's been doing
this for it's going on four and a half years. Broo,
it's been a minute.

Speaker 6 (02:11:25):
This is crazy, man.

Speaker 2 (02:11:27):
We got intern Alena's in the building. In turn, Noah's
here in the room, gonna break this thing down. What up? Though,
Willie B has been awesome having part of the wool
Pool extended family. I mean it's been others like Summer,
Cody Davis, high Death, Steph Hey, we had Uncle leland
Stein in the building, Rod Beard, the doc, John Mcaroon, We've.

Speaker 3 (02:11:47):
Had shut out Wendell Brown as well.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
Wendel Brown, that was. That was an awesome guy.

Speaker 3 (02:11:51):
I ran into him one day at what I was
out and about and just this like big hulking dude
who's lived an incredible life, and he was so nice
to me again and so thankful that we even had
him on our show. And it's like, dude, you're the
You're the man. Of course, Yeah, it couldn't have been
more nice.

Speaker 2 (02:12:09):
Shout out.

Speaker 3 (02:12:12):
I do Warren Sapp maybe a little bit of a
different story, but you give him. But you know, I'm
sure that was. I wasn't there, so I didn't get
to Actually, I'm sure in person he was a specimen.

Speaker 2 (02:12:23):
Something of the heavyweights. Dog y'all had some legendary moments
in a span of a three four years talk show
to you guys, man, Doug, you know what, let's get
this thing on, Willie B what up?

Speaker 18 (02:12:35):
Man?

Speaker 2 (02:12:37):
Ah Man?

Speaker 8 (02:12:38):
The best, six the best, this is the best six
seven months I have man being broadcast, being broadcast. Freelance
in media for a minute, Yeah, almost twenty twenty years
freelance and this is like my first two networks that
I real you know, solidified networks to be in.

Speaker 9 (02:12:57):
And I appreciate for you.

Speaker 8 (02:12:59):
Brandon Brandon aka kool A, forgive me opportunity that I've
been I always want to be in part of sports
media for a long time. And this is like you
gave me a breakaway and you get a kid out
of Dexter Gerrow, out of the West side Detroit a
chance to do.

Speaker 9 (02:13:15):
Oh yeah, man, represent and I thank you for that.

Speaker 8 (02:13:18):
And I'll show you my you know, my appreciation that
you didn't have to do it. You didn't have to
do this with your good kind of hard spirit did it.
And I am forever grateful for you to let me in.
And I appreciating me all you guys around this.

Speaker 9 (02:13:33):
And what was Sports Era?

Speaker 22 (02:13:34):
Because I never thought it would be Darren McCardy, I
ain't know who, I ain't know, you know that was
him Wahington watching TV or see Terry Foster hearing some
old old stories and Sean Bleach and you got you got,
you know, stick come in show Flannel man.

Speaker 9 (02:13:51):
You fun as hell.

Speaker 8 (02:13:52):
You match my energy though with the crash Out, it
was like crash out bros Man just like dude, were
just like Joker in The Joker, I forgot what it
is whatever, Super Joker and Thanos link up Man of.

Speaker 2 (02:14:06):
The Crash.

Speaker 3 (02:14:12):
And oddly enough, if you want to get really random,
the sources of our biggest arguments were Tyrese Haliburton and
Bobby Higginson.

Speaker 9 (02:14:21):
Right like order Chuck Dely.

Speaker 3 (02:14:23):
Debateiins I love Chuck Daily.

Speaker 2 (02:14:28):
Hey, let me say something real quick. Shout out to
the WU. Shout out to these guys, Flannel and kool Aid.

Speaker 23 (02:14:33):
They're my brothers. I love these guys forever. Kool Aid
is the nicest, most genuine.

Speaker 2 (02:14:38):
Dude I've ever met in my entire life.

Speaker 23 (02:14:41):
You know he'd just go to war with you and say,
with this guy, dude, I have more respect for Flannel
as a broadcaster than anybody I've ever met my entire life,
because he stands on fucking business.

Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
Dude.

Speaker 23 (02:14:53):
This man was five ft away from Darren McCarty and said,
those cups aren't yours, dude.

Speaker 2 (02:14:59):
This is sending him working here. What stands on business.

Speaker 23 (02:15:04):
Everything that he says he believes, and the vast majority
of them are backed in provable analytic fact.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
So Plannels, my brother, cool is my brother.

Speaker 4 (02:15:11):
I love you guys, that's what's up.

Speaker 6 (02:15:17):
If we can tell them behind.

Speaker 3 (02:15:18):
The scenes, behind the scenes would work greater than actual content.

Speaker 2 (02:15:22):
Woodward all right, salto sale booth today filling in for KG,
our brother KG. And we did we miss KG, we
missed you justin. I'm glad we got to say you know,
they got to say their goodbyes to the show yesterday.
But Ricky, who's been doing for the job here, bro,
I appreciate it. This is a personality business. But even
Marssel bounding scenes. You know, it's like the brotherhood and

(02:15:43):
now we got the sisterhood in here too. You already
know you fit in bro. Hey, I appreciate it. Man.

Speaker 7 (02:15:49):
It's honored to be here on your last So I
had no ideas was the last show until I walked
in and plannetl was half crashed out.

Speaker 4 (02:15:55):
As soon as I walked in, I was like, yo,
what's going on?

Speaker 3 (02:15:57):
You know Ricky again, I wasn't mad about Like, I'm
totally cool, like I'm at peace with everything. I'm I'm fine,
I'm happy. My thing where the live read situation where
like all of ours were gone and today I just
did we ad libbed a lot today. I didn't feel
like going through the trouble of like searching and making
copies and whatnot. It's like, bro, give me my pre

(02:16:18):
show zen and I got it. What was Sorry Ricky
for the bad up?

Speaker 2 (02:16:26):
What was supposed to?

Speaker 9 (02:16:28):
That's j B smooth Yoda Man.

Speaker 10 (02:16:32):
Today is bittersweet, you guys. I know you guys will
still be around the building. It's just sucks that this
is the last one. We had some amazing guests stop
by the studio, especially in the morning as well to
special k you know Greg Hilzer. Yeah, and just like
a ton of other amazing guests as well too, people
that you've introduced me to as well, kool A. So
I appreciate everything that you have done for me as well. Flannel,

(02:16:55):
once again, you taught me. Otherwise I wouldn't be in
this chair right now that I I'm in and I
can't let you go without playing the hits.

Speaker 14 (02:17:03):
So some Plannel hits for everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:17:07):
It's like porn to me. I mean it's like porn
to me.

Speaker 16 (02:17:10):
He is my money dream. He is the man that
I have erotic dreams. Plan is the man that I
have erotic dreams and plans, my love, my love.

Speaker 4 (02:17:25):
I just had to.

Speaker 2 (02:17:31):
Hey, that's so appropriate because vedan squad better network that
is Flannel Sam, all sports lover and all sports know where.
There is a reason for that, bro, I spinny said it.
It's in all of the notes I came. I remember,
I was like, all right, let me get his reads.

Speaker 6 (02:17:45):
One day you were here.

Speaker 2 (02:17:47):
This is before I was in my hosting and I
was like, whoa, these are notes. I was already such plannel.
What the freaks book?

Speaker 6 (02:17:54):
You're talking about?

Speaker 2 (02:17:55):
This guy putting in the level of just the time
to study, man, the time to be prepared, the time
to have everything white, the time to research and not
just our stuff, but historically you know the context of
how it fits into that just the NFL or the NBA,
but how are even something an NBA fits into the
grand scheme of the freaking sports world.

Speaker 6 (02:18:14):
It's amazing what you do.

Speaker 2 (02:18:16):
I definitely want to be able to give you your kudos,
give you your flowers and uh spinning man.

Speaker 5 (02:18:21):
It was.

Speaker 2 (02:18:21):
It was great words about flannels straight.

Speaker 3 (02:18:22):
Out and and here's the thing. So obviously I'm not dying,
none of us are. So everything's fine. You will see
me on these airwaves very soon. Hell, if somebody gets
sick on Monday, they might call me back Monday. Maybe
maybe maybe not. We'll see. But after hey, so you

(02:18:45):
might you might be seeing me pretty soon. Maybe yeh,
shut shout out right, lens. Maybe maybe not.

Speaker 2 (02:18:50):
We'll see.

Speaker 3 (02:18:51):
But one thing that I can give as my sendoff,
it's not really a sendoff. I am one hundred percent
and at peace with everything. The greatest gift that I
was given by getting a chance to do this was
I got to enjoy what I loved about it and
what made this my favorite job I ever had overall.

(02:19:12):
But I also got to see the things and not
I'm not talking about the business end, but even some
of the things with doing this that I didn't like.
That was a bit of a grind. And if I
hadn't got this opportunity, I would never know. I would
never know that there It wasn't always perfect. There was
a lot of hard work and there were a lot
of bad days as well. So that feeling gives me

(02:19:33):
more peace than anything, the clarity and the opportunity that
I had. Thank you all this is and one last time,
do not weep for me, for I'm good.

Speaker 2 (02:19:45):
Man. I'm just looking at all.

Speaker 6 (02:19:47):
Have you got my.

Speaker 3 (02:19:48):
Picture to JB my like selfie I took when I
was like nineteen. That was social anxiety. Couldn't get a
woman to look at me. Days too.

Speaker 4 (02:19:59):
Nice coming in it, don't get comfortable.

Speaker 9 (02:20:01):
Come here with my wife.

Speaker 2 (02:20:04):
Look, it's your boy, Brandon, Dad k Detroit cool A,
your credential pission reporter and writing for the network. This
has been an awesome and amazing opportunity experience. And it's
like you can never get lost in the shuffle. You
can never lose sight of what is they come up
here with te false because you started actually on this
thing with us, coaching us up early in the beginning.
Man South Chaps, there's always you guys are the most

(02:20:25):
important part of the singing it and smashed that like
button and uh tea false the last show of want
to make you say what up to the people because
you started on this you coaches from behind the scenes
at least as way way because they don't see you. Okay, Yes,
I have a new new gig here.

Speaker 6 (02:20:44):
I'm gonna be on Monday and Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:20:46):
With uh mueral on What's the name of the show?
And I do not say what Up's Doe, Well, what up, Dough.
I've never said I just said what up?

Speaker 23 (02:21:00):
What?

Speaker 2 (02:21:00):
I've never said it, and I'm not going to start now.
What's up? That's what? So wake up. Lord be blessed
you guys. Thank you all. Falling support happen continue to
support with reports man us Tho
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