February 27, 2025 • 48 mins
Today we are joined by 2 members or group 2 with Mark McCormack and Leo Garcia. Fresh off their podcast together for the president McCormack podcast, Mark and Leo join us as we talk about what leadership group 2 has been like since their 2 and a half years ended. Plus we dive into some interesting group dynamics and why the group seems to come together the way they do. Then, we talk about the upcoming running with the bulls trip to Spain, since Mark and Leo were on the original running with the bulls trip its great to here from them the highlights of their experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to the We Are the Day Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am your host, Jimmy Rex, the founder and CEO
of We Are the They, and this podcast has been
specifically designed for you to get to know on a
deeper level the members of this community. What makes us
so special, why are these relationships so thick? And really
what is going on at these events? What are these
members experiencing, how do they grow? Why are they so
committed to this cause? And so, as you're listening to
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
And with that, let's get to today's episode.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
All right, welcome back to the Weather the Day Podcast.
We are joined by two members of Leadership Group two.
Mark McCormack. Yeah, Yo, Garcia, I had to get it right, right, brother. Well,
it's a pleasure to have you guys on the podcast.
We've had a couple more Group tow you guys on recently,
and it's funny because you guys just ended, So it's
funny that now I'm getting all the Group two guys.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, we finally have time to do this. Yeah, exactly,
that is true.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, I want to start off typical podcast. How you
guys found out about where the day and then why
you guys ended up joining Mark. Let's have you go
first on this one.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I found out about this through Nicholas Holland, whose childhood
friend of Jimmy's. I actually turned the opportunity down twice.
And it's kind of I've told this story a few
times in my own podcast, but I can't give the
condensed version. Basically, Nick was at my house one day
and he just looked at me and said, Hey, we'll
be a lot better friends if we do this together.
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This will blossom our friendship. And I called Jimmy and
put down the first year on my credit card, and
that's how That's how I got into the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yea, quite frankly pretty simple.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I didn't really know much about it, to be fair,
I I actually thought it was more of a self
development course, which I'm kind of done with those. So
when I realized all the adventure stuff in the in
the relationship things, you know, it's very it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Was it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, just made sense, right, Yeah, I like that, Leo,
let's hear your story.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Well, I actually found out about this group on Instagram.
I met somebody who Jimmy has known through a different
mastermind and investment mastermind, and he goes, hey, you're in
real estate. If there's anybody to follow in real estate,
it's Jimmy. Yeah, and he's starting up a new mastermind.
You should get in on that. I'm like, okay, it
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sounds good, So I hit follow, and next thing you know,
he's got Hey, I'm starting this leadership program. I put
my application in, I get a call from Jimmy. I
still have the voicemail of hey, I think you'd be
a great fit for this group. Yeah, and I just
I went all in because that's how I rolled it. Yeah,
found out about on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
That's crazy. It's crazy that everyone finds out in such
different ways. And you were just like, oh, it's a mastermind, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah for sure. Like the guy that I was talking
to about masterminding, I saw on a bookshelf of his
the book Think and Grow Rich, And I was like, hey,
I want to get into masterminds, Like how do I
get into one? And he goes, don't get into one
in your market, Like, go elsewhere. You're going to learn
things from a broader spectrum of other people that have
gone or been through what you're gonna be going through
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and where you need to go. It's like you're in
real estate. There's the man in real estate? Is it
in Utah? And his name is Jimmy Rerex? She you
needn't fall that guy perfect done? Yeah, Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That was good advice.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, that's great advice.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, I've met some good people.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
You have question people sitting next, hopefully more questionable. They're funner,
were adventured. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I love that those great stories. I want to talk
because you guys are both in Group two. So obviously
you guys have gone through the full two and a
half year experience. You guys have been out for a
couple of months now. I want to get your guys
thoughts on what it's been like almost post what Obviously
it's been a couple of months, But have you noticed
anything different with the group, any changes or anything like
that or does it feel still feel the same?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Mark your thoughts doesn't feel the same. It feels like
we went through an experience and it's over. Yeah, and
so technically I think we've been done. Next week will
be two months. Okay, So you know we had like
the Christmas break in there. So there was a Christmas
activity that most of the people are able to go
to the ones that are in state. But the month
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of January has been pretty quiet, you know. And really
I think a lot of the guys I can speak
for a few of them in Leo and chime in
on this too, is I think we're actually kind of
getting the itch to get back together. Yeah, and so
like like lutis style right where we and that's on us,
and so I think, uh, quick, frankly, I think I'm
going to plan one in May, and so I'm going
to throw it out to our group here, and we're
still pretty active communication with each other. We definitely our group,
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if you look at it on the surface, might seem
a little clicky, just because there's there's guys that have
found like some of their best friends, right yea, And
but really as a whole, like, if I see there's
a group two activity happening, we're getting ninety percent of
the guys showing up to it, right, I mean maybe
even higher than that, I mean for sure, yeah, yeah,
almost everything that we do, so we're very active a
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Marco and then our group me you know, we you know,
we like the group me.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, like the group, it's just easier. We still use
you still jump on the app, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
It's kind of good stuff in the app.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, And you know, the New Zealand Trips coming up,
and some people are very excited to go on that
and so and I will be too, I'll be I
wanted all the Adventure trips.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I did everything when I was in that.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
That's kind of my I just want all in and
that's how I do everything right and so, but you know,
kind of can I keep my answer short? Yeah, we're
very excited to get back together as a group, and
I think once we're kind of through a break here
and back into our normal lives, like we'll probably get
together once or twice a year, probably for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Are your thoughts? Yeah, So I really miss getting together
with all of the guys every quarter, right on a
two and a half year commitment. Every single quarter, you
have something to look forward to. You're going somewhere, You're
meeting up with some of your best friends. Uh, and
some of the best friends you haven't even connected with yet.
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Kind of a thing, right, So you're doing that for
tune half fears and it ends, but it doesn't fully end, right.
And one of the biggest things that I do miss
is obviously getting back together, but just the community that
was built that Jimmy set all of this up, and
he kind of put us all together without Jimmy, like,
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there's no super tight connection between me and Mark and I, yeah,
because that never would have known.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I live in Washington State and there's me and one
other member of Group two in Washington, so which is
a small world. We'll get into that story later. But
still I have some of the closest friends for the
rest of my life from this group, and we have
disagreements and we've given each other great advice and maybe
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some not so great advice, but that's part of being
in a community of what we've created, you know. But yeah,
obviously we'll be getting together again soon, getting the band
back together, and that's always exciting fun, which means.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
We tease the hell out of each other, and we've
seen karaoke. Sure, Jimmy's there, we'll go for a hike.
But honestly, shirtless like shoes on, shirtless John.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
For your guys, group shoes off from my group.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh is that the guy in your group that shoes off?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Geez.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But but we love we love masterminds.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's that's our jam, dude.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's that's where the I think that's where some of
the tightest connections are actually made. Is I mean right?
I mean we love the masterminds. That's like our main thing.
Every time we do a lotis man, everyone look forward
to that, and you know we.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Go over every time, Like every team gives us a
certain amount of time for these masterminds, and we go
way over on our time a lotted even though Jimmy
works really hard to make sure that we're on scheduling
things because we got a lot to do during these
loutises these weekends, we pack in exactly week's worth of stuff,
month's worth of stuff in a few short days. Sorry.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Continue to meet absolutely super super intentional and and uh,
I mean we know each other and our group, and
you know, we always tell everyone we're the greatest group
and all that kind of shits, mostly just to tease
everybody to like have them say no, we are. Then
we have camaraderie, right, like with a group four you know,
like if you guys say you're the best we'll challenge it,
we'll laugh and whatever, you know what I mean, But
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like we know, well, my point is we actually don't know,
you know what I mean, Like I don't know the
connections you guys have in your group or five or
six or you know, all these other groups. It's like
we just got to throw that out there. But we're
also I think we're the most inclusive group, I would say,
because we don't care what group you're in, your what
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you're what, right, you just come jump in with us,
you know, like you know what. Matt and I came, Well,
Max spoke and I brought him up there to you guys.
Thing right, It's like, shit, we stayed for freaking like
three hours or something like that, just because you know,
I know ten to fifteen of you guys.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Matt knew a few of you guys.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
But it's like, you know, we keep on getting to
know each other and so it's say, yeah, we're all
the same brotherhood.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I actually got in trouble in Spain because I was
I was teasing all the tribe guys, you know, like
made him take my bags and get me drinks and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Right, it was driving Jimmy crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was so much love it was insane. Yeah,
and I'm seriously right, I mean I tease everyone with love.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
If I don't like you, I don't at you, you know,
and so, but like I ended up having to give
a speech there because I was driving Jimmy Crazy and
a couple of guys sort of haze.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And then the guys, you know, they feel and left out.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But I was like, hey, guys, listen, it doesn't matter
what group you're in, doesn't matter your tribe, if you
if you're paying your money to, we are the day
you're in this room. Yeah, right, we're all the same.
Get that through your thick skulls. No one cares what
color you are with sex you are like none of
that bullshit, right, Like you're a member of the brotherhood
exact right, un Thus you exit yourself for some weird reason.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah. And I feel like people have a hard time
with that sometimes, right, they see it and they go way, Hey,
I can just connect with the people that I connect with, right,
I can just stay.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
In my comfortable circle.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I can just be around the people that I'm connected with.
But you're paying to be in the room, right, You're
paying to be a part of this community. That's the
beauty of it. Use that to your advantage, to take
a manage of that, get to learn as many people
as you possibly can. So I love that leader to
have something.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
One of the things that I've really admired about Jimmy
was that when we first got together, he was mixing
everybody up. He was like going out of his way
making sure that Mark is sitting next to Leo, and
or Nick is sitting next to Matt and you know,
just kind of like shifting the you know, shifting people
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around in the room, not really forcing people to get
to know each other, but making sure that people are
going to get out of their comfort zone. Otherwise that's
gonna happen. You're gonna fall into this. Okay, I found
my click, and I'm in my comfort zone. All this,
that and the other. But I think again, what I
was speaking of about the admiration on Jimmy's part, he
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then let go of that. He goes this group now
knows they've all been out of their comfort zone enough
that they're not gonna be shy or embarrassed or ashamed
to sit next to somebody in this group all connected. Yeah,
like so he was doing that at first, and then
I don't know when, do you think Mark, maybe halfway
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or maybe sooner.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Probably by the fourth flout, ye fourth, there was.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
No more of that kind of Hey, I need you
to move from where you're sitting at and dinner from
here to over there, and you come over here and
do that. I don't know if he still does that
with other groups, but he was doing that with us
for a little bit, and I was like, actually, kind
of like this, this is cool, it's fun, kind of
forced us to get to get connected with others. But
then something fun, awesome, crazy, amazing whatever happened where we
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all just kind of did our own thing with everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
With each other.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
And I don't know, Well, there's there's a lot of
horsepower in group two, right, there is.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, there's a lot of guys that.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Drive and like are very driven, and you know, and
there's guys that are quite about it, and there's guys
that are louder about it, right, and it just mixes well, yeah,
it really does, right, and like it's very inclusive. We
want everyone to participate, you know what I mean. We've
never had a like get this person out of my
life moment man or anything like that. Right, we had
a we lost a couple of members right throughout the
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thing and happens. Yeah, and we had a couple added too,
And I'm kind of sting you're thinking, it's like, really
about the third one, we were pretty locked in. We
just had like six new guys. I was bare like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we had like six new guys. So we kind of
folding them in. It almost made us tighter as a
group anyways, right, because it's like, oh, yeah, six new guys.
Let me show you guys we're all about, you know,
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Like Kurt was one of them, and I was teasing
him to death. So I've met Kurt at the Christmas
party like a month before that, right, because it's like
January that we are bar Lake was a thing or
something like that, and uh, you know, he does breath
work and he comes down. He's bawling his eyes out
while he's eating steak, right, and I was just like
laughing at him so hard. He's like, why didn't you
tell me it was going to be emotion like this.
I was like, I don't know, dude, you're crying all
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over your steak.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
We still joke about it to this day, you know,
and it's like and he had he had a great weekend. Man.
It was like just kind of being able to like
have emotions and showing them.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And you know, you know, when you're a man, dude
like you and you're head of a family and you
got kids and a wife and like you got to
be stoic. Yeah, part of being a man. And so
these loutises gave us an opportunity just to like say
what's going on in our lives and dealing with stuff
and exactly. Yeah, it's just awesome.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Be very real, be very vulnerable and open and like
Jimmy created that container for us in Group two where
there was zero judgment. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
No, I just think it's really fascinating. Like you talked
about people joining the group late, so they might have
their first lootis at the third lotus or the second
or third lootis right, and they miss out on the
Moab experience. And we always talk about Moab as kind
of this like jumping off point quite literally, jumping off
point for what right, And yet there's so many people
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who come into the group late. We had a couple
of guys in our group as well where it's you
jump right in. You're diving head first, and all of
these guys, because they've gone through that moab experience, are
just automatically open and vulnerable, right, kind of exactly what
you said there, right, So when you get thrown into that,
you're kind of like, well, I have to embrace this, right,
Like I'm sure Kurt, for example, was like, oh, right,
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I have I don't know what I'm getting myself into,
but I have to embrace it because there's forty eight
other guys here who are already embracing it.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I think that's like it's difficult, obviously, like from Kurt's
story that you're telling us, but it's so unique and
so cool to where they didn't have to have the
moab experience to just immediately jump in and be a
part of it, right. I think that's super special. And
to your guys's group point. I was talking to Jerry
me Macy about it, and he's just like, yeah, we
got some dogs in our group, right, we got some
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big powerhouse guys, We got some like, we got some
big personalities and it just works right, speak to that dynamic,
Because Mark, I think you're one of these bigger personalities,
and so I'm curious your thoughts larger than life.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean, and I was a lot larger at
the beginning. I was ninety pounds every year. Bro, they're
talking about large. It works because we all have the
same goal and vision, right, It was to get better
and to be the best dads and husbands that we
could be, right.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I think we said the.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Tone earlier on and I and I probably pat myself
in the back on this a little bit, not entirely right,
but like, I care very very much about being the
best husband that I can and the best father that
I can. And that kind of started gravitating a few
people towards me that wanted the same thing, like Bracken,
Josh Sherwood, even Nick Right, Nick was Nick Allen was
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was a single at the time, you know, I'd been
divorced a few years before that, a little bit of
a playboy. I don't know how he'd explained himself, you know,
right at the beginning, right, but he actually consciously made
the decision. He's talked about this a lot in his
podcasts and stuff, that he wanted to be around men
that loved their wives and model himself after that, and
now he's in an amazing marriage that he built. It's
all him, you know what I mean, there's no credit
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in anyone but him. And then you had like Michael McHenry, right,
he kind of came into the group, and he had
had fathers and children outside of his marriage, right, and
that were they were young, they were like eight months
sold when this thing started, right, And then he kind
of started gravitating into that because he'd already started trying
to build his relationship back with his wife. And and
he's done, and he's done a fantastic job of that.
And as you really dive into all, I mean, Leo
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sit right next to me, actually have divorced during this thing, yep, right,
but he also but but he still wants to be
the gress husband that he can. So when he's onto
the next one, when he finds his next partner, right, like,
he'll dive into that, he's all these other guys that
are behind him strengthening him and doing that. And then
there's also a father of two children. Yeah, and so
and I most there's only a few guys that don't
have kids that are not married in our group, maybe
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a handful, right, but then we also kind of look
at those guys as like, hey, let's mentor you guys
a little bit, like what do you guys want to know?
Like Jake Nol, they Hill and Will's all the time.
I talk to those guys all the time, and they're like, hey, Mark,
what do you think about this? And I get married?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
And they know why and they actually agree with me, right,
they really do. And and it's not you know, I'm
not I don't know how to explain to get married.
It's like a whole freaking podcast in itself. But it's
just we're doing about it kind of coming in right.
You need someone who can tell you now and tell
you then not every one of your ideas is good.
You get your thirties and forties and you're single and
never been married, right, and you got you think everything
you touch is gold. You're you're in trouble because it
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doesn't right. But that that to me, that that's really
where the group kind of like really welded itself intogether.
It's it's like I don't care what's going on in
anyone's lives, and there's all sorts of crazy shit that
happened during our our two and a half years, right,
everyone's pointing to that north star of like good husband.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Good dad.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, I like that, you think, Leill.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
No, I mean you nail it, you know, without getting
into too much of the story of getting divorced. Uh,
there's a very low divorce rate and Weird that they
I'll just say that straight up, you're not going to
join this group and just all of a sudden, I'm
gonna leave my family right now, That's not what happened.
But truthfully, this group really helped me understand that there's
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people in our lives that you cannot control right on
the on the developmental side. One of the main reasons
why I joined this group was I joined Weird the
day because I wanted to become the best version of
myself for myself, for my family, for my community, for
my business, being a great leader, Like that's all I wanted. Yeah,
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because I knew that if I was the sharpest tool
in my shed, that I'm going to be able to
do the best that I can and people are going
to be able to work through me or use me whatever.
Not using this kind of a bad thing, but as
a tool, like people can use that utilize it. It's
a resource almost, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
So.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, you're not going to join this group and then
get divorced, Like that's seldom. Like there is a lot
involved that we're not going to get into, of course,
but yeah, I'm open to sharing.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
But yeah, but even with that though, I remember after heat,
Remember when I called you after bear Lake, right, yeah,
you're driving home. I totally I was like, dude, anything
you can to stay married, man, go fix the ship.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Literally everything that I could that I knew how to
do with again the resources that I had, I gave
it my best shot. There's no doubt in my mind
that you know, I could send my ex wife a
text message right now and say, hey, you know, was
there anything that you think that I left on the table,
Like did I give you ninety percent kind of a thing,
Like there's zero doubt right now that she's going to go.
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You did everything that you could for us, Yeah, one
hundred percent. That's literally all that matters. Like, I did
not let me down. I think we live in a
society today where people are constantly going I just don't
want to let so and so down. I just can't
let them down. And it's like you know what, you
might let some people down. What's the most important is
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that you don't let you down exactly, because sometimes who
people need you to be, you're just not that person
yet and you've let them down because of that. But
you're fine right now because you gave it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You're all.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
You gave it one hundred percent. And then someday you're
going to be that person that that that you let down.
You're going to be the person that they needed back
then you just didn't happen to be in that moment, you.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, it's the nice guy syndrome. We talked about it
on our call with Jimmy this week actually talking about
like you know, the book No More Mister Nice Guy,
talking about that concept and everything and talking about the
idea of wanting to not let people down, right because
in society everyone does this and it's the nice guy
syndrome that comes out in so many different people when
in reality, you got to make sure you don't let
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yourself down first, right, Like when you were listing the things,
one thing that you said first is myself, right, I
think that's such a key priority, right, Yeah, So I
love I loved how you did that.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Thank you, Mark.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Did you have something you look like you wanted to
share something on the mister nice guy things?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
No, I agree with I. I haven't read the book Shocker.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
I get the principle, yet I'm gonna say that not
nice guy.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Did you know the whole joke and said of our
group about me not reading no kind of. I basically said,
what the hell did I say about it?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I can't remember that I don't read self help books, right,
I know you've talked about that before.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So, but.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
It got morphed I was talking about I think I
was talking to a masterminder. I was like, guys, stop
reading self help books. He all said the same damn thing.
I get everything out of the freaking title. You know
what I mean now when I say that people make assumptions, right,
I have read countless self help books in my twenties, right,
and so, but then it morphed into I don't ready
and I came from the calendar, which he's not one
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hundred percent wrong, Like I've don't crack novels, open and
read them. It's not my jam, dude, But I read
a ton. I read stock portfolio or stock reports all
day and financial news, and like if I'm trying to
learn a new skill, I'm like one hundred percent in right,
But like a lot of it's like doing in different things, right.
But yeah, But the thing I wanted to say though,
is like kind of with Leo's divorce, It's like the
cool thing too, is like when he made the decision
to get divorced, we all supported it. Yeah, right, he
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had talked about it in Masterminds. He had been probably
way more open with some of us individually, and it
was like, yeah, dude, if you think that's best for you,
we got you back, man, what do you need? Yeah,
you know, And even some of the guys in the group.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I've had a few.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, I'm kind of the big brother sometimes in group too,
with another couple other guys are as well. And so
when guys open up to me, I just I always
tell him, like, listen, guys, it doesn't matter how you
handle this. You kids need to not hate you in
ten years. Yeah, that's the most important thing. So, like
with I was usually as an example, right when he
when he got divorced, he did it respectfully, right. He
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was very honest with her. He told her exactly what
was going on. There's no bullshit on the side. There
was no cheating on that kind of garbage, right, And
so now that he's done that clean break, because it
was actually best for both of them, right now, they
can both co parent properly, you know, all that kind
of stuff. And I think he probably would have done
that on his own, but I think the group and
some of these conversations influenced that or at least short
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it up for him so that he had the confidence
to go and actually do it. Yeah, because you know,
I haven't got divorced, but I'm sure it's got to
be very isolating and you got to fill alone a
lot and scary. You're making a decision that's wildly can
to impact your life.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, yeah, one of the And again there's not that
I don't believe in there's bad advice. Like, there's no
such thing as bad advice. There's plenty of advice that
has been given to people that is not the sound
advice for them in that moment, And in our group,
a lot of people were coming to me with just
open arms and saying, Hey, I love you, whatever it
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is that you need, We're here for you. Right, Not
one person in my group because they knew everything because
I've been open and honest and stay one and what
are we a year and a half in? Right, a
year and a half in, and not one person had
come to me and said are you doing the right thing?
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There was only one person that wasn't in the group
that had come to me. It was like, Hey, I'm
really sorry about what's happening. I hope you're okay. There's
anything we can do as a family, let us know.
And this one person out of like I don't know
fifty people that I talked to outside of the group
about this, one person said are you doing the right thing?
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So it was almost solidify in the fact that maybe
maybe people don't have the guts to to ask you, like, hey,
what are you actually doing here? Think about the consequences
or whatever. But I'm open and honest with everyone because
of this group. Right, So when people were coming to
me going hey, I'm really sorry, I hope everything shakes
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down okay for both of you guys. I hope your
family's okay. But they had every opportunity to ask me,
am I doing the right thing? Not one of them
did except one person. You know what I'm saying, So
it only solidified in me going, Okay, we're unfortunately doing
one of the hardest things that we have to do
in our entire lives. And one person asked me if
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I was doing the right thing. And they weren't family
member like I had relatives and family members. How many
people ask you X in laws just wor we're getting
we'll get into we'll get into another piece weld love
so well, long story short, there's you know, let's move on.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Sorry brought in and I'm like, I'm just proud of Leo. Dude,
he did the right thing, He made the right Chorice
appreciate it, and he's good going forward.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
We knew, we knew it was the right thing when
Mike the the energy shifted in our home because I
was still living there for a little bit. The energy
shifted in our home with our children, Like our kids weren't.
They just started behaving differently because it was like a
weight off of both of our shoulders as co parents. Yeah,
we're just like, okay, this sucks. Yeah, we you know,
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we're supportive of each other and we're going to do
whatever it takes to make sure that we're taking care
of our family.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
I still consider her family. She's the mother of my children.
She is going to be in my life in some way,
shape or form forever. Right, and same thing for her
and to me.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Right, And.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
How are we going to show up for our kids?
That is the most import and thing. How are we
going to show for kids? She tells me constantly, Hey,
I really appreciate you being a really good dad. You know,
because of how she sees me interact with our kids,
or how something my kids would do or say, she'll
be reminded of, oh that's from Leo. Yeah, like there's
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where did they get this from? They got this from
their dad. So I'm very thankful. And she'll message me
all the time, Hey, thank you for X, Y and Z,
and I do the same thing. It's reciprocal, So that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Seriously, I was going to ask Leo on top of that,
because the first thing they came to imagine kept saying,
you know, one person told you that. Nobody in the group, right,
M Why do you think no one in the group
said that to you or asked you that. I'm curious.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
It's a great question. I'm glad you're asking it because
I think of my complete openness complete honesty, complete integrity.
People knew that I wasn't full of shit. People knew
that I was putting in the work. People knew and
and same for her, she was putting in the work too.
Write I'm not going to discredit her for like, oh,
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she did nothing and and and this is all her fault.
Absolutely not. I'm not gonna be on any soapbox or
pedestal or platform saying she this is her fault, because
it's not right like this, this was mutual, even though
in moments we were both kind of like scared or
angry or sad, it's this was mutual, truly.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I think it's shut of that. I think because we
trust him. That's what I was going to thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, no, I trust them, trust Leo, you know, like
he and a lot of that comes from what he's saying.
You know, he was transparent about it. He told us
about it, and and when he made the decision, it's
just like, yeah, if Leo's choosing to do this, it's
the best choice for him. We don't need to any
even question it.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Like, the reason I asked that question is because there
are so many times where we get in situations in
the group and we just decide to support no matter what.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Sure, it feels like in this situation there was a
lot of that trust build.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
You were so open, so vulnerable about the situation that
everyone knew you were putting in the work.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Right, for sure.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I feel like that's a lot of the things, Like
a lot of the time in the group, we can
tell who's putting in the work who's not putting in
the work. So the issues that come up for people
who aren't putting in the work, we kind of go,
all right, well, let's expand on this because there's more
questions to be had here. Right For the people who
are doing the work, you just kind of understand it.
You trust them, you believe in them, and you just
let them do what they need to do.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
So yeah, I like that. That's why I asked the question.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Well he knew, Mark knew.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
No, you're starting because they trust me, which is true.
I mean you know something, men, I think that is
going by the wayside. Men today need to need to
be honorable with their word.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
I tell people all the time, Hey, just guard your
speech because the words that come out can never be
brought back in exactly. And I don't know if that's
tis whatever beful. You know, it's not going to make Instagram.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Men need to be men of their word again. Word
is bond. Men need to be men of their word again.
And they and we wonder why people are untrustworthy. We
can't trust one another whatever, it's no man, just be
a man of your word.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yep, yep, Like Mark said, that just made the Instagram.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Let's transition a little bit because I want to talk
about the adventure trips with you guys. As Mark has
been on every single adventure trip Leo, the only one
you haven't been on is Africa. I want to ask
you guys just straight up, what's the biggest highlight from
any of the trips. What's the one single moment that
you look at and you go, yeah, this is the
best thing that I've had on one of these adventure
trips so far. Do you have one that comes to
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my Mark?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, running with the bulls was fun.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, that's gonna be a hard one a top Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Also, like what about running with the bulls just makes
it better than anything else that you could.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Do because it's the perfect mix of there was so
many of us.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
There were seventy two of us, right, I don't know
if Jimmy's counting that with him in there, so there
might be seventy three.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
A couple camera guys who might have hit seventy five.
I don't really know. Right, there's a lot of us.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
There was a gang of it, and yeah, twenty four
hours into it, we're all friends. Yeah, like seriously, right,
you know what I mean. I mean we're like, you know,
the night before it technically started, we all went to
not all of us, but we went to a night club,
you know, blah blah blah, Like it was just kind
of we're all jamming, just jiving, and it's just like
everyone came there to have a blast. Yeah right, and
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we did, and we freaking you know, we like we
partied in Pamploma. We freaking we were staying at nice places.
We're like all ready to go and get up at
like freaking five thirty in the morning to go actually
run with the bulls. And then you have that very
intense moment of running with the bulls right where you
have like this absolute brotherhood in there where it's like, hey, shit,
we did this together, right, and.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Some of those guys fell down. I mean I fell down.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
I got you know, did you hit I got it
tripped up?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
You get tripped up to? Yeah, I mean you know
I the bull licked me. I've got my whole story
with that, I mean all sorts stories. Freaking Brad crawtfull
got freaking hit by one, like full.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
On knockdown and yeah I got knocked down, Bible and like, there's.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
So many memories that were made during that, and you know,
then we like actually one of the funnest parts that
whole ringing thing was actually when we got to Madrid
and we were on the scooters. Yeah, absolute menaces on
the scooters, right, I mean we were doing twenty eight
thirty miles an hour and these things going downhill.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Whipping in it out of cars.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
There was actually a car that was mad at me
and tried to hit me, and uh dude, they if
they would have got me, Bro, I would have been.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Like usual, gonna pin me in this other freaking car.
I'd have done some damage those little tiny European cars.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Nothing with me. I'm indestructible. But yeah, but like just
that whole.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Thing, right, I was zipping around there and just you know,
we're in a foreign country and gosh, just a camaraderie
in there. It's just it's amazing and that and that
does bleed out to the other ones too. So my
very first one was Iceland. Iceland was like going into
a different planet. Iceland is absolutely gorgeous. I'm gonna take
my it's back there real soon. Actually, we all le
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all kind of going a little bit more than me.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
But yeah, what was a question, because I'm just going
down the rabbit hole of moments just from every adventure trip,
going like, oh that was the best, this was the best,
that was the best.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
So just one highlight that comes to your mind, just
whatever you think is like the number one highlight. Maybe
not running with the bulls, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
For sure the number one highlight for me in terms
of like big picture because I'm a big picture guy.
I don't know if you know, I don't know if
you caught on to that, but big picture is getting
the guys together and just being boys again. It's almost
like you're going which is why I love the loutises.
Right every quarter you're getting together and it's like you're
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camping with your best friends as a child, right, those
the greatest moments is in your childhood, right going camping.
But you're doing this around the world with some of
your best friends that again that you are close with
and that you haven't quite met yet. Yeah, because at
the last adventure trip that I was on was Spain,
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and I was I was at a wedding in April
in Mexico during the Africa trip, which I really really
wanted to go to Africa. Gosh, so bummed out. I'll
probably go and do something my own adventure trip to Africa.
But it's just getting together and letting your inner child
hang out, just being with your best bros, seeing some
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of the wonders of the world. And I don't really
go out of my way to live like a very
luxurious lifestyle. I'm more or less modest, you know, I'm
just that's just me. I'm a low, low key, you know,
quiet money. That's my thing, that's my jam. And when
we go on these adventure trips, no matter how rugged
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an activity might be or are where you are in
the world, Jimmy has put it together where you're still
getting a world class experience and you're still getting kind
of luxurious treatment like there was like Spain was off
the chain. We got. We got the treatment. The entire
time Iceland. We were roughing it a little bit here
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and there in the hostels, which was super fun.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
A little set and setting, right because it's not like
big hotels.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
And I there's yeah exactly. We rented an entire hall.
Somebody was dying. That was a guest there that like
coughed up a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
When was that last the last night?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
I think it was the first night because they were.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh I wasn't in there with you. Remember we got
the extra Airbnb town right.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Anyway, you want to know.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
What I'm gonna talk about Iceland? Okay, I'm gonna tell
you my favorite part. I'll say my favorite part in Iceland.
This is gonna be your favorite part. Two, doude, We
show up to Iceland. So Nick Hellenan and I actually
flew to New York and then stayed over night in
New York, then flew up there with zomb actually the
next morning, right because we wanted to spend a night
in New York, got a couple of bars, speakeasies and
have some fun, right, And we really were only in
New York for about six waking hours, you know what
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I mean, basically got there night.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Anyways, So we show up to Iceland. It's night time.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
We go to this hostel that Jimmy had rented out,
and the guy had lied to Jimmy basically said there
was like fifty beds in there, and there was like yeah,
yeahs not that many, and so he had like quickly
rented an airbnb like the little partments. There was like
nine of us in like three beds down a little
So as we're going down there, someone makes the comment like, hey,
there's a dance club. It's only open on Fridays and Saturdays, right,
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I think it was Saturday or or whatever. We leave
him from there that day anyways, right, so sort of
like shit, let's go this dance club, right, and I'll
never forget it, dude, because we show up right now Iceland.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
People are short, they're like.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Leo size, not all, not all, but like but when
you got me and Dan Blankenship and Alex and some
of these other big boys like rolling around, right, we
look like the freaking I don't know, the football team
showed up, right, And so we go into this club
and it's like midnight, right, and Iceland's super safe, very
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nice people. Everyone's nice. It wasn't like a chance of
like a squall or anything like that. Everyone's just very
cool and nice.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
And you guys are just bigger and else yeh yeah, yea.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
It's kind of it's kind of like VIP in Vegas,
right when you pay for the VIP. Everyone's dope in
that right because it's really expensive. And so we go
in this place and we're like dancing and like there's
a few of the guys I don't know that well, right,
Like Josh Sowards was one of them. I hadn't got
to know him, like really really well yet. I think
we'd only had one loutas maybe two.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
That was so Iceland was in November. We go do
the rope swing.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
It was like May July, no July.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, yeah yeah, so after George.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
It was just after Saint George. Yeah, so right after
our second loutist.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
So Josh is like he's a younger kid at the time, right,
you know, and he's kind of like hang and he
was hanging out in our room with us. We're kind
of having fun, you know, blah blah blah. Anyways, the
first time I ever drank. And so we go to
this club and like Alex buying drinks to everybody, we
started drinking, you know, blah blah blah, but we weren't
really there long enough to get like hammered or anything.
And so so anyways, I have this video of me
and Josh Sowards. We are in the middle of the
dance floor, right, We're sticking out like sore thumbs, and
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they started playing that Rihanna song, that umbrella song. It's
like umbrella, and all of a sudden he hands me
an umbrella. I got my arm round it with the
camera and I'm just like dancing with this umbrella and
the crowd's going crazy in there, right, and Dan Blankenship,
but I've only met for like five minutes at another event.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
He hadn't been to Alutas yet, is just dancing.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Like crazy because Dan loves to dance, right, And it
was just I mean, Bracken was in there, Bracken Hudson,
you know, like he loves to have a good time,
but you know he's very straight. I seld s guy, right,
and it's just like everyone just melted into this room
and no one cared about anything other than having fun. Yeah,
that's probably It's probably my favorite moment. And there's great
moments in Iceland, but that was probably my favorite moment.
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You were in there, right, you were at the club.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I did not go to the club only Yeah, only
half of us went. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
So is that the night we were getting tattoos?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
No, the very very first night.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
This is the thing about adventure trips. You never know
what's gonna pop off. You never know what you're gonna put.
I never know, man, And that's the coolest thing is
that you all connect, right, this is you all connect,
and some on a deeper level than others, and some
you find some things in common that you never thought
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you have in common, and then you just start going
crazy and doing doing some stuff. Right, So like the
scooter thing in Spain, Like not everybody wanted to do
the scooter thing, like me and Hayden and I can't
remember who else. We'd left dinner or hookah or something,
and we just bombed around in Madrid forever. And then
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I had this straw hat that I'd picked up at,
you know, one of these little stands, and I was
just bombing, bombing, and then I'm like, man, I'm not
going to be I'm not going to be able to
wear this hat like I wear it anywhere else, like
back home, Like this is a Madrid hat, right, and
this is a cool thing. Well I turn a corner
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and I start going crazy because I kept like fighting
keeping it on, and I get startled by like a
car in an alley turning its lights on. I'm like oh,
and I picked my head up and it goes and
I'm like, hey, it was message to be dedicated. This
belongs to Madrid, right. But in Iceland, some of the
guys have never gotten tattoos before. And we had Scott
(39:13):
I forgot his last no, no, no, the other Scott,
the guy that had the operation to get his tumors
removed from Oh yeah, he was the guest. He was
the guest, incredible human being. I freaking love that guy.
He'd never gone a tattoo. And I was like, hey,
wouldn't it be fun to get some tattoos some like
Iceland Ice, Icelandic something tattoos. So we had Mike Hardell
(39:34):
had made these t shirts and we had the wayfinder symbol,
the Nordic Wayfinder nice and that was on there and
We're like.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, this is it.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
So we go into a tattoo shop. We convinced the
tattoo artists, because there was only one. We convinced the
tattoo artists to stay open as long as she possibly
could tattoo which was, by the way, we got there
at ten pm.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Was the same night.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
That was the same that was the same night that
you guys were at all at the club.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
It would make sense.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
That does make sense, Yeah, because these guys.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
There was like fifteen or twenty of us, Yeah, that
piled into the small tattoo shop and we hung out
in that tattoo shop until everybody can get tattooed from
ten pm all the way to six pm, because Jimmy
was like, hey, six am, we're at six am. Sorry,
at six we need to do X, Y and Z.
We're meeting at six. So we're like okay. We stayed
there in that tattoo shop til six am, all night,
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all night, till people got everybody got tattooed.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Which I was mad because I wanted to get a tattoo.
I brought my wife to that trip, right she showed
up the last day. I thought a bunch of guys
would do that. I guess I started that, yeah, it's
a marketing so but and we were going to get
our her and I had never got tatted, so we're
gonna get our first tattoos in Iceland because I was like,
how cool would this be?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Right?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
And then she decided she didn't want a tattoo in Iceland,
which is fine, right, It's all I was like, damn it,
I could have got a tattoo. Those guys, I think
I'm still going to get that way finer tattoo and
I have a right but like, yeah, like how cool
is that?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
You know?
Speaker 4 (41:03):
I have a bowl in the back of my calf
from Running with the Bulls and Nick Allen has it,
Matt Berae, Josh Sherwood.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'll give it to it. I
have the pattern. Anyone that wants it can so cool
slap it on them.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
But yeah, it's yeah, you're you're gonna have to send
it out to the guys who go for the next
Running with the Bulls.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Yeah, I'm telling you there's a part of that where
I'm like, oh, dude, I the camaraderie is so much
fun on that trip that I want to go. I
just don't want to run with the bulls. Again, I
got everything I wanted out of it, other than it's
stabbed in the ass.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Cheek right like you've got in the experience.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
So I got it all.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, it makes sense. I think the the cool part
about the Adventure trips is everything that you guys were
talking about these stories. That's the beauty of it.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
So if you're thinking about going running with the bulls,
go run with the bulls. If you think about going
to New Zealand and go to New Zealand, like, just
do the adventure trips because you're going to get there
and you're going to create incredible connections and you're just
gonna have a blast doing it, right. I think that's
the really beautiful thing about these aventure trips.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
I'll tell you one of the funniest things that we
did in Africa. It was actually the freaking first day
we got to Africa. Yeah, so we actually got there
a day before Jimmy or something weird time zones or
we'll blame it on that whatever. And so we me
and uh like for the other guys, we we go
walking through this mall and we buy these cookies. Read
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between them lines.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
I've heard this story.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
These So then we went and got on an open
air bus tour right and we ate the cookies and dude,
we were just laughing and laughing and laughing. And then
Johannesburg is scary as hell. There's bob wire everywhere, fences
ten feet tall, and we're just at the top of
this bus just laughing our heads off and taking pictures
and just giggling.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
And we stopped at a casino because that's where the
bus was going. For a minute. You know, we're like
peeing in there, just laughing.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
I got all these videos of me and Tim Oyler
just like Yo, I'm like text or like FaceTime in
my wife or I'm like yo, we're here, We're safe,
and she's like.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
What are you guys doing.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
We had these cookies and we got on this bus
and it was like super fun and and it was
just like, oh, it's crazy. So I mean, both of
cookies in a freaking mall. It was just like, there, son,
you're find Yeah, well before the the well before the
adventure trip actually started.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yes, it was. It was fun.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
It was well before it was well before.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
And uh, the other thing that was really funny about
it was there's a place in Johannesburg called chicken licking.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
It's like KFC.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
They're everywhere, but like the signs are like it's just
says chicken licking, but it's like way above the stores,
so it doesn't look like it's connected. Just looks like
there's this tattoo of like chicken licking everywhere. So Jerm's
got like ten pictures of me just like this nother one.
Just just making fun, just making fun of the situation
and having fun and just and that's what every adventure
(43:41):
trips like, at least the one that I go on,
because that's all I want to do. If I I
have prepped to leave, I have set all my general
managers the way that they need to be. I've told
my family what's up. So when I'm there, I'm free.
So we are going to have fun.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
I don't give a shit what happens.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah, you're there to have as much fun as possible. Yeah,
that's like the key principle of what you're going there for,
to have fun.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
It's an adventure.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
It's an adventure.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Yeah, I like that. Got the adventure trips.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Can't wait. It's gonna be a blast. So thank you
guys for doing this, we'll kind of wrap up here
in the podcast. I always like to end the podcast
just first person that comes to your mind, give him
a little shout out, give him some love, Leo, you
got someone on top of your mind.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
Yeah, big shout out to Jimmy. Very very grateful for him.
I never knew him. I never knew he existed a
few years ago until a mutual friend had told me
to follow him on Instagram. And the guy has put
me on a has put me in front of other people,
and put me in rooms that have legitimately changed my life. Yeah, forever.
(44:43):
I love so, I love Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
I love you.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
If you're listening, and just shout out to anybody out
there that wants to join the group or is already
in the group and is kind of hesitant to get
open and honest and vulnerable, do it. Yeah, absolutely, do it.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Love that Mark.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
I'm gonna send some love out to Jake Nold. So
he's uh, he's just doing the right things in life, man.
Him and him and Will's Nelson are they work a
grit right, and they're really working hard and growing their
teams and it's hard and they're going through growing pains
personally and professionally, and there's like all this cool stuff
going on with them. And he reached out to me
(45:22):
and a couple of other guys, Bracking and Ben Care
and he was like, hey, guys, we don't know what
we don't know, Like we're coming into town. We said
up a meeting with you guys. We love and respect
you guys, and we just we need help.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, And I was like, this is literally like two
days ago.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Then this meeting is happening on Tuesday, and I'm like,
that is so cool that these guys because they're younger, right,
and they're single, and their lives are a little bit
different than ours, but they were me Bracken and Ben
were able to to present to them in a way
that they respect us and trust us and want some
mentorship from us.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
And this is like true vulnerability to me, right.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
I think vulnerability and confessions get a little mess stop right, Like,
if you confess to something that you did ten years ago,
it's not really being vulnerable, right. Being vulnerable is when
you're in the middle of it and you reach out
the guys, I'm drowning a little bit, like help me,
you know, And and they could and by the way
Will's dad is a freaking billionaire, right. Will's dad is awesome.
He's a powerhouse in business, right, and he's just a
(46:19):
great dude. And it's like, and still these guys want
to go into the group, to the men's group where
they're comfortable and get you know, and I'm sure they've
hit Will's dat's up, right, but like they just want
a different opinion. And I just respect that from those guys.
I And it's the same rules that Leon and I have, Right,
we give advice, you take what you want exactly, you know,
we don't judge it for it.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yeah, so there's my shout out. Jake Nol love that.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
I'll give a shout out Michael Boswell.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Group one. Just had lunch with him on Tuesday actually,
so he's been on the top of my mind. We
had a good conversation about a couple of things. So yeah, yeah,
love Boz. All right, thank you guys for coming on
the podcast. If anyone wants to reach out to you,
should they just go to the wad app grab your phone.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Number, but absolutely, yeah, do that or Instagram.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
You're on Instagram, hit me up. I am at real
Estate Underscore. Leo Garcia on the ig perfect mark.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
What's yours and I'm President McCormack.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yeah, perfect, Or you can go to the w app
grab their number, text him, give me, give me a shout,
gear up, lunch, whatever works.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
So I won't do lunch with you, but you're more
than welcome to come to my office and bring me
a coke zero. I will make time for you.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
Yes, actually that's fine.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Well, thank you guys for doing this.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
We'll see you guys next week. Thanks brother, thank you
for listening to another episode of the We Are the
Day podcast. If you want to join this incredible community,
this incredible brotherhood of men, you can go on Instagram
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
And with that, let's get to today's episode.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
All right, welcome back to the Weather the Day Podcast.
We are joined by two members of Leadership Group two.
Mark McCormack. Yeah, Yo, Garcia, I had to get it right, right, brother. Well,
it's a pleasure to have you guys on the podcast.
We've had a couple more Group tow you guys on recently,
and it's funny because you guys just ended, So it's
funny that now I'm getting all the Group two guys.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, we finally have time to do this. Yeah, exactly,
that is true.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, I want to start off typical podcast. How you
guys found out about where the day and then why
you guys ended up joining Mark. Let's have you go
first on this one.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I found out about this through Nicholas Holland, whose childhood
friend of Jimmy's. I actually turned the opportunity down twice.
And it's kind of I've told this story a few
times in my own podcast, but I can't give the
condensed version. Basically, Nick was at my house one day
and he just looked at me and said, Hey, we'll
be a lot better friends if we do this together.
(01:27):
This will blossom our friendship. And I called Jimmy and
put down the first year on my credit card, and
that's how That's how I got into the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yea, quite frankly pretty simple.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I didn't really know much about it, to be fair,
I I actually thought it was more of a self
development course, which I'm kind of done with those. So
when I realized all the adventure stuff in the in
the relationship things, you know, it's very it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Was it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, just made sense, right, Yeah, I like that, Leo,
let's hear your story.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Well, I actually found out about this group on Instagram.
I met somebody who Jimmy has known through a different
mastermind and investment mastermind, and he goes, hey, you're in
real estate. If there's anybody to follow in real estate,
it's Jimmy. Yeah, and he's starting up a new mastermind.
You should get in on that. I'm like, okay, it
(02:15):
sounds good, So I hit follow, and next thing you know,
he's got Hey, I'm starting this leadership program. I put
my application in, I get a call from Jimmy. I
still have the voicemail of hey, I think you'd be
a great fit for this group. Yeah, and I just
I went all in because that's how I rolled it. Yeah,
found out about on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
That's crazy. It's crazy that everyone finds out in such
different ways. And you were just like, oh, it's a mastermind, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah for sure. Like the guy that I was talking
to about masterminding, I saw on a bookshelf of his
the book Think and Grow Rich, And I was like, hey,
I want to get into masterminds, Like how do I
get into one? And he goes, don't get into one
in your market, Like, go elsewhere. You're going to learn
things from a broader spectrum of other people that have
gone or been through what you're gonna be going through
(03:06):
and where you need to go. It's like you're in
real estate. There's the man in real estate? Is it
in Utah? And his name is Jimmy Rerex? She you
needn't fall that guy perfect done? Yeah, Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That was good advice.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, that's great advice.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, I've met some good people.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
You have question people sitting next, hopefully more questionable. They're funner,
were adventured. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I love that those great stories. I want to talk
because you guys are both in Group two. So obviously
you guys have gone through the full two and a
half year experience. You guys have been out for a
couple of months now. I want to get your guys
thoughts on what it's been like almost post what Obviously
it's been a couple of months, But have you noticed
anything different with the group, any changes or anything like
that or does it feel still feel the same?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Mark your thoughts doesn't feel the same. It feels like
we went through an experience and it's over. Yeah, and
so technically I think we've been done. Next week will
be two months. Okay, So you know we had like
the Christmas break in there. So there was a Christmas
activity that most of the people are able to go
to the ones that are in state. But the month
(04:07):
of January has been pretty quiet, you know. And really
I think a lot of the guys I can speak
for a few of them in Leo and chime in
on this too, is I think we're actually kind of
getting the itch to get back together. Yeah, and so
like like lutis style right where we and that's on us,
and so I think, uh, quick, frankly, I think I'm
going to plan one in May, and so I'm going
to throw it out to our group here, and we're
still pretty active communication with each other. We definitely our group,
(04:32):
if you look at it on the surface, might seem
a little clicky, just because there's there's guys that have
found like some of their best friends, right yea, And
but really as a whole, like, if I see there's
a group two activity happening, we're getting ninety percent of
the guys showing up to it, right, I mean maybe
even higher than that, I mean for sure, yeah, yeah,
almost everything that we do, so we're very active a
(04:54):
Marco and then our group me you know, we you know,
we like the group me.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, like the group, it's just easier. We still use
you still jump on the app, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
It's kind of good stuff in the app.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, And you know, the New Zealand Trips coming up,
and some people are very excited to go on that
and so and I will be too, I'll be I
wanted all the Adventure trips.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I did everything when I was in that.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
That's kind of my I just want all in and
that's how I do everything right and so, but you know,
kind of can I keep my answer short? Yeah, we're
very excited to get back together as a group, and
I think once we're kind of through a break here
and back into our normal lives, like we'll probably get
together once or twice a year, probably for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Are your thoughts? Yeah, So I really miss getting together
with all of the guys every quarter, right on a
two and a half year commitment. Every single quarter, you
have something to look forward to. You're going somewhere, You're
meeting up with some of your best friends. Uh, and
some of the best friends you haven't even connected with yet.
(05:58):
Kind of a thing, right, So you're doing that for
tune half fears and it ends, but it doesn't fully end, right.
And one of the biggest things that I do miss
is obviously getting back together, but just the community that
was built that Jimmy set all of this up, and
he kind of put us all together without Jimmy, like,
(06:19):
there's no super tight connection between me and Mark and I, yeah,
because that never would have known.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I live in Washington State and there's me and one
other member of Group two in Washington, so which is
a small world. We'll get into that story later. But
still I have some of the closest friends for the
rest of my life from this group, and we have
disagreements and we've given each other great advice and maybe
(06:46):
some not so great advice, but that's part of being
in a community of what we've created, you know. But yeah,
obviously we'll be getting together again soon, getting the band
back together, and that's always exciting fun, which means.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
We tease the hell out of each other, and we've
seen karaoke. Sure, Jimmy's there, we'll go for a hike.
But honestly, shirtless like shoes on, shirtless John.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
For your guys, group shoes off from my group.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh is that the guy in your group that shoes off?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Geez.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But but we love we love masterminds.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's that's our jam, dude.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's that's where the I think that's where some of
the tightest connections are actually made. Is I mean right?
I mean we love the masterminds. That's like our main thing.
Every time we do a lotis man, everyone look forward
to that, and you know we.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Go over every time, Like every team gives us a
certain amount of time for these masterminds, and we go
way over on our time a lotted even though Jimmy
works really hard to make sure that we're on scheduling
things because we got a lot to do during these
loutises these weekends, we pack in exactly week's worth of stuff,
month's worth of stuff in a few short days. Sorry.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Continue to meet absolutely super super intentional and and uh,
I mean we know each other and our group, and
you know, we always tell everyone we're the greatest group
and all that kind of shits, mostly just to tease
everybody to like have them say no, we are. Then
we have camaraderie, right, like with a group four you know,
like if you guys say you're the best we'll challenge it,
we'll laugh and whatever, you know what I mean, But
(08:14):
like we know, well, my point is we actually don't know,
you know what I mean, Like I don't know the
connections you guys have in your group or five or
six or you know, all these other groups. It's like
we just got to throw that out there. But we're
also I think we're the most inclusive group, I would say,
because we don't care what group you're in, your what
(08:35):
you're what, right, you just come jump in with us,
you know, like you know what. Matt and I came, Well,
Max spoke and I brought him up there to you guys.
Thing right, It's like, shit, we stayed for freaking like
three hours or something like that, just because you know,
I know ten to fifteen of you guys.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Matt knew a few of you guys.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
But it's like, you know, we keep on getting to
know each other and so it's say, yeah, we're all
the same brotherhood.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I actually got in trouble in Spain because I was
I was teasing all the tribe guys, you know, like
made him take my bags and get me drinks and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Right, it was driving Jimmy crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was so much love it was insane. Yeah,
and I'm seriously right, I mean I tease everyone with love.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
If I don't like you, I don't at you, you know,
and so, but like I ended up having to give
a speech there because I was driving Jimmy Crazy and
a couple of guys sort of haze.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And then the guys, you know, they feel and left out.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
But I was like, hey, guys, listen, it doesn't matter
what group you're in, doesn't matter your tribe, if you
if you're paying your money to, we are the day
you're in this room. Yeah, right, we're all the same.
Get that through your thick skulls. No one cares what
color you are with sex you are like none of
that bullshit, right, Like you're a member of the brotherhood
exact right, un Thus you exit yourself for some weird reason.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah. And I feel like people have a hard time
with that sometimes, right, they see it and they go way, Hey,
I can just connect with the people that I connect with, right,
I can just stay.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
In my comfortable circle.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I can just be around the people that I'm connected with.
But you're paying to be in the room, right, You're
paying to be a part of this community. That's the
beauty of it. Use that to your advantage, to take
a manage of that, get to learn as many people
as you possibly can. So I love that leader to
have something.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
One of the things that I've really admired about Jimmy
was that when we first got together, he was mixing
everybody up. He was like going out of his way
making sure that Mark is sitting next to Leo, and
or Nick is sitting next to Matt and you know,
just kind of like shifting the you know, shifting people
(10:24):
around in the room, not really forcing people to get
to know each other, but making sure that people are
going to get out of their comfort zone. Otherwise that's
gonna happen. You're gonna fall into this. Okay, I found
my click, and I'm in my comfort zone. All this,
that and the other. But I think again, what I
was speaking of about the admiration on Jimmy's part, he
(10:46):
then let go of that. He goes this group now
knows they've all been out of their comfort zone enough
that they're not gonna be shy or embarrassed or ashamed
to sit next to somebody in this group all connected. Yeah,
like so he was doing that at first, and then
I don't know when, do you think Mark, maybe halfway
(11:06):
or maybe sooner.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Probably by the fourth flout, ye fourth, there was.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
No more of that kind of Hey, I need you
to move from where you're sitting at and dinner from
here to over there, and you come over here and
do that. I don't know if he still does that
with other groups, but he was doing that with us
for a little bit, and I was like, actually, kind
of like this, this is cool, it's fun, kind of
forced us to get to get connected with others. But
then something fun, awesome, crazy, amazing whatever happened where we
(11:32):
all just kind of did our own thing with everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
With each other.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
And I don't know, Well, there's there's a lot of
horsepower in group two, right, there is.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, there's a lot of guys that.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Drive and like are very driven, and you know, and
there's guys that are quite about it, and there's guys
that are louder about it, right, and it just mixes well, yeah,
it really does, right, and like it's very inclusive. We
want everyone to participate, you know what I mean. We've
never had a like get this person out of my
life moment man or anything like that. Right, we had
a we lost a couple of members right throughout the
(12:04):
thing and happens. Yeah, and we had a couple added too,
And I'm kind of sting you're thinking, it's like, really
about the third one, we were pretty locked in. We
just had like six new guys. I was bare like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
we had like six new guys. So we kind of
folding them in. It almost made us tighter as a
group anyways, right, because it's like, oh, yeah, six new guys.
Let me show you guys we're all about, you know,
(12:24):
Like Kurt was one of them, and I was teasing
him to death. So I've met Kurt at the Christmas
party like a month before that, right, because it's like
January that we are bar Lake was a thing or
something like that, and uh, you know, he does breath
work and he comes down. He's bawling his eyes out
while he's eating steak, right, and I was just like
laughing at him so hard. He's like, why didn't you
tell me it was going to be emotion like this.
I was like, I don't know, dude, you're crying all
(12:46):
over your steak.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
We still joke about it to this day, you know,
and it's like and he had he had a great weekend. Man.
It was like just kind of being able to like
have emotions and showing them.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And you know, you know, when you're a man, dude
like you and you're head of a family and you
got kids and a wife and like you got to
be stoic. Yeah, part of being a man. And so
these loutises gave us an opportunity just to like say
what's going on in our lives and dealing with stuff
and exactly. Yeah, it's just awesome.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Be very real, be very vulnerable and open and like
Jimmy created that container for us in Group two where
there was zero judgment. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
No, I just think it's really fascinating. Like you talked
about people joining the group late, so they might have
their first lootis at the third lotus or the second
or third lootis right, and they miss out on the
Moab experience. And we always talk about Moab as kind
of this like jumping off point quite literally, jumping off
point for what right, And yet there's so many people
(13:42):
who come into the group late. We had a couple
of guys in our group as well where it's you
jump right in. You're diving head first, and all of
these guys, because they've gone through that moab experience, are
just automatically open and vulnerable, right, kind of exactly what
you said there, right, So when you get thrown into that,
you're kind of like, well, I have to embrace this, right,
Like I'm sure Kurt, for example, was like, oh, right,
(14:03):
I have I don't know what I'm getting myself into,
but I have to embrace it because there's forty eight
other guys here who are already embracing it.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I think that's like it's difficult, obviously, like from Kurt's
story that you're telling us, but it's so unique and
so cool to where they didn't have to have the
moab experience to just immediately jump in and be a
part of it, right. I think that's super special. And
to your guys's group point. I was talking to Jerry
me Macy about it, and he's just like, yeah, we
got some dogs in our group, right, we got some
(14:33):
big powerhouse guys, We got some like, we got some
big personalities and it just works right, speak to that dynamic,
Because Mark, I think you're one of these bigger personalities,
and so I'm curious your thoughts larger than life.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean, and I was a lot larger at
the beginning. I was ninety pounds every year. Bro, they're
talking about large. It works because we all have the
same goal and vision, right, It was to get better
and to be the best dads and husbands that we
could be, right.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I think we said the.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Tone earlier on and I and I probably pat myself
in the back on this a little bit, not entirely right,
but like, I care very very much about being the
best husband that I can and the best father that
I can. And that kind of started gravitating a few
people towards me that wanted the same thing, like Bracken,
Josh Sherwood, even Nick Right, Nick was Nick Allen was
(15:29):
was a single at the time, you know, I'd been
divorced a few years before that, a little bit of
a playboy. I don't know how he'd explained himself, you know,
right at the beginning, right, but he actually consciously made
the decision. He's talked about this a lot in his
podcasts and stuff, that he wanted to be around men
that loved their wives and model himself after that, and
now he's in an amazing marriage that he built. It's
all him, you know what I mean, there's no credit
(15:50):
in anyone but him. And then you had like Michael McHenry, right,
he kind of came into the group, and he had
had fathers and children outside of his marriage, right, and
that were they were young, they were like eight months
sold when this thing started, right, And then he kind
of started gravitating into that because he'd already started trying
to build his relationship back with his wife. And and
he's done, and he's done a fantastic job of that.
And as you really dive into all, I mean, Leo
(16:11):
sit right next to me, actually have divorced during this thing, yep, right,
but he also but but he still wants to be
the gress husband that he can. So when he's onto
the next one, when he finds his next partner, right, like,
he'll dive into that, he's all these other guys that
are behind him strengthening him and doing that. And then
there's also a father of two children. Yeah, and so
and I most there's only a few guys that don't
have kids that are not married in our group, maybe
(16:33):
a handful, right, but then we also kind of look
at those guys as like, hey, let's mentor you guys
a little bit, like what do you guys want to know?
Like Jake Nol, they Hill and Will's all the time.
I talk to those guys all the time, and they're like, hey, Mark,
what do you think about this? And I get married?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
And they know why and they actually agree with me, right,
they really do. And and it's not you know, I'm
not I don't know how to explain to get married.
It's like a whole freaking podcast in itself. But it's
just we're doing about it kind of coming in right.
You need someone who can tell you now and tell
you then not every one of your ideas is good.
You get your thirties and forties and you're single and
never been married, right, and you got you think everything
you touch is gold. You're you're in trouble because it
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doesn't right. But that that to me, that that's really
where the group kind of like really welded itself intogether.
It's it's like I don't care what's going on in
anyone's lives, and there's all sorts of crazy shit that
happened during our our two and a half years, right,
everyone's pointing to that north star of like good husband.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Good dad.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, I like that, you think, Leill.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
No, I mean you nail it, you know, without getting
into too much of the story of getting divorced. Uh,
there's a very low divorce rate and Weird that they
I'll just say that straight up, you're not going to
join this group and just all of a sudden, I'm
gonna leave my family right now, That's not what happened.
But truthfully, this group really helped me understand that there's
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people in our lives that you cannot control right on
the on the developmental side. One of the main reasons
why I joined this group was I joined Weird the
day because I wanted to become the best version of
myself for myself, for my family, for my community, for
my business, being a great leader, Like that's all I wanted. Yeah,
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because I knew that if I was the sharpest tool
in my shed, that I'm going to be able to
do the best that I can and people are going
to be able to work through me or use me whatever.
Not using this kind of a bad thing, but as
a tool, like people can use that utilize it. It's
a resource almost, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
So.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, you're not going to join this group and then
get divorced, Like that's seldom. Like there is a lot
involved that we're not going to get into, of course,
but yeah, I'm open to sharing.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
But yeah, but even with that though, I remember after heat,
Remember when I called you after bear Lake, right, yeah,
you're driving home. I totally I was like, dude, anything
you can to stay married, man, go fix the ship.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Literally everything that I could that I knew how to
do with again the resources that I had, I gave
it my best shot. There's no doubt in my mind
that you know, I could send my ex wife a
text message right now and say, hey, you know, was
there anything that you think that I left on the table,
Like did I give you ninety percent kind of a thing,
Like there's zero doubt right now that she's going to go.
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You did everything that you could for us, Yeah, one
hundred percent. That's literally all that matters. Like, I did
not let me down. I think we live in a
society today where people are constantly going I just don't
want to let so and so down. I just can't
let them down. And it's like you know what, you
might let some people down. What's the most important is
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that you don't let you down exactly, because sometimes who
people need you to be, you're just not that person
yet and you've let them down because of that. But
you're fine right now because you gave it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You're all.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
You gave it one hundred percent. And then someday you're
going to be that person that that that you let down.
You're going to be the person that they needed back
then you just didn't happen to be in that moment, you.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, it's the nice guy syndrome. We talked about it
on our call with Jimmy this week actually talking about
like you know, the book No More Mister Nice Guy,
talking about that concept and everything and talking about the
idea of wanting to not let people down, right because
in society everyone does this and it's the nice guy
syndrome that comes out in so many different people when
in reality, you got to make sure you don't let
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yourself down first, right, Like when you were listing the things,
one thing that you said first is myself, right, I
think that's such a key priority, right, Yeah, So I
love I loved how you did that.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Thank you, Mark.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Did you have something you look like you wanted to
share something on the mister nice guy things?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
No, I agree with I. I haven't read the book Shocker.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
I get the principle, yet I'm gonna say that not
nice guy.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Did you know the whole joke and said of our
group about me not reading no kind of. I basically said,
what the hell did I say about it?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I can't remember that I don't read self help books, right,
I know you've talked about that before.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So, but.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
It got morphed I was talking about I think I
was talking to a masterminder. I was like, guys, stop
reading self help books. He all said the same damn thing.
I get everything out of the freaking title. You know
what I mean now when I say that people make assumptions, right,
I have read countless self help books in my twenties, right,
and so, but then it morphed into I don't ready
and I came from the calendar, which he's not one
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hundred percent wrong, Like I've don't crack novels, open and
read them. It's not my jam, dude, But I read
a ton. I read stock portfolio or stock reports all
day and financial news, and like if I'm trying to
learn a new skill, I'm like one hundred percent in right,
But like a lot of it's like doing in different things, right.
But yeah, But the thing I wanted to say though,
is like kind of with Leo's divorce, It's like the
cool thing too, is like when he made the decision
to get divorced, we all supported it. Yeah, right, he
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had talked about it in Masterminds. He had been probably
way more open with some of us individually, and it
was like, yeah, dude, if you think that's best for you,
we got you back, man, what do you need? Yeah,
you know, And even some of the guys in the group.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I've had a few.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, I'm kind of the big brother sometimes in group too,
with another couple other guys are as well. And so
when guys open up to me, I just I always
tell him, like, listen, guys, it doesn't matter how you
handle this. You kids need to not hate you in
ten years. Yeah, that's the most important thing. So, like
with I was usually as an example, right when he
when he got divorced, he did it respectfully, right. He
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was very honest with her. He told her exactly what
was going on. There's no bullshit on the side. There
was no cheating on that kind of garbage, right, And
so now that he's done that clean break, because it
was actually best for both of them, right now, they
can both co parent properly, you know, all that kind
of stuff. And I think he probably would have done
that on his own, but I think the group and
some of these conversations influenced that or at least short
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it up for him so that he had the confidence
to go and actually do it. Yeah, because you know,
I haven't got divorced, but I'm sure it's got to
be very isolating and you got to fill alone a
lot and scary. You're making a decision that's wildly can
to impact your life.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, yeah, one of the And again there's not that
I don't believe in there's bad advice. Like, there's no
such thing as bad advice. There's plenty of advice that
has been given to people that is not the sound
advice for them in that moment, And in our group,
a lot of people were coming to me with just
open arms and saying, Hey, I love you, whatever it
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is that you need, We're here for you. Right, Not
one person in my group because they knew everything because
I've been open and honest and stay one and what
are we a year and a half in? Right, a
year and a half in, and not one person had
come to me and said are you doing the right thing?
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There was only one person that wasn't in the group
that had come to me. It was like, Hey, I'm
really sorry about what's happening. I hope you're okay. There's
anything we can do as a family, let us know.
And this one person out of like I don't know
fifty people that I talked to outside of the group
about this, one person said are you doing the right thing?
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So it was almost solidify in the fact that maybe
maybe people don't have the guts to to ask you, like, hey,
what are you actually doing here? Think about the consequences
or whatever. But I'm open and honest with everyone because
of this group. Right, So when people were coming to
me going hey, I'm really sorry, I hope everything shakes
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down okay for both of you guys. I hope your
family's okay. But they had every opportunity to ask me,
am I doing the right thing? Not one of them
did except one person. You know what I'm saying, So
it only solidified in me going, Okay, we're unfortunately doing
one of the hardest things that we have to do
in our entire lives. And one person asked me if
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I was doing the right thing. And they weren't family
member like I had relatives and family members. How many
people ask you X in laws just wor we're getting
we'll get into we'll get into another piece weld love
so well, long story short, there's you know, let's move on.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Sorry brought in and I'm like, I'm just proud of Leo. Dude,
he did the right thing, He made the right Chorice
appreciate it, and he's good going forward.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
We knew, we knew it was the right thing when
Mike the the energy shifted in our home because I
was still living there for a little bit. The energy
shifted in our home with our children, Like our kids weren't.
They just started behaving differently because it was like a
weight off of both of our shoulders as co parents. Yeah,
we're just like, okay, this sucks. Yeah, we you know,
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we're supportive of each other and we're going to do
whatever it takes to make sure that we're taking care
of our family.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
I still consider her family. She's the mother of my children.
She is going to be in my life in some way,
shape or form forever. Right, and same thing for her
and to me.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Right, And.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
How are we going to show up for our kids?
That is the most import and thing. How are we
going to show for kids? She tells me constantly, Hey,
I really appreciate you being a really good dad. You know,
because of how she sees me interact with our kids,
or how something my kids would do or say, she'll
be reminded of, oh that's from Leo. Yeah, like there's
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where did they get this from? They got this from
their dad. So I'm very thankful. And she'll message me
all the time, Hey, thank you for X, Y and Z,
and I do the same thing. It's reciprocal, So that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Seriously, I was going to ask Leo on top of that,
because the first thing they came to imagine kept saying,
you know, one person told you that. Nobody in the group, right,
M Why do you think no one in the group
said that to you or asked you that. I'm curious.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
It's a great question. I'm glad you're asking it because
I think of my complete openness complete honesty, complete integrity.
People knew that I wasn't full of shit. People knew
that I was putting in the work. People knew and
and same for her, she was putting in the work too.
Write I'm not going to discredit her for like, oh,
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she did nothing and and and this is all her fault.
Absolutely not. I'm not gonna be on any soapbox or
pedestal or platform saying she this is her fault, because
it's not right like this, this was mutual, even though
in moments we were both kind of like scared or
angry or sad, it's this was mutual, truly.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I think it's shut of that. I think because we
trust him. That's what I was going to thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, no, I trust them, trust Leo, you know, like
he and a lot of that comes from what he's saying.
You know, he was transparent about it. He told us
about it, and and when he made the decision, it's
just like, yeah, if Leo's choosing to do this, it's
the best choice for him. We don't need to any
even question it.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Like, the reason I asked that question is because there
are so many times where we get in situations in
the group and we just decide to support no matter what.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Sure, it feels like in this situation there was a
lot of that trust build.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
You were so open, so vulnerable about the situation that
everyone knew you were putting in the work.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Right, for sure.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I feel like that's a lot of the things, Like
a lot of the time in the group, we can
tell who's putting in the work who's not putting in
the work. So the issues that come up for people
who aren't putting in the work, we kind of go,
all right, well, let's expand on this because there's more
questions to be had here. Right For the people who
are doing the work, you just kind of understand it.
You trust them, you believe in them, and you just
let them do what they need to do.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
So yeah, I like that. That's why I asked the question.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Well he knew, Mark knew.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
No, you're starting because they trust me, which is true.
I mean you know something, men, I think that is
going by the wayside. Men today need to need to
be honorable with their word.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
I tell people all the time, Hey, just guard your
speech because the words that come out can never be
brought back in exactly. And I don't know if that's
tis whatever beful. You know, it's not going to make Instagram.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Men need to be men of their word again. Word
is bond. Men need to be men of their word again.
And they and we wonder why people are untrustworthy. We
can't trust one another whatever, it's no man, just be
a man of your word.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yep, yep, Like Mark said, that just made the Instagram.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Let's transition a little bit because I want to talk
about the adventure trips with you guys. As Mark has
been on every single adventure trip Leo, the only one
you haven't been on is Africa. I want to ask
you guys just straight up, what's the biggest highlight from
any of the trips. What's the one single moment that
you look at and you go, yeah, this is the
best thing that I've had on one of these adventure
trips so far. Do you have one that comes to
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my Mark?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, running with the bulls was fun.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, that's gonna be a hard one a top Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Also, like what about running with the bulls just makes
it better than anything else that you could.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Do because it's the perfect mix of there was so
many of us.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
There were seventy two of us, right, I don't know
if Jimmy's counting that with him in there, so there
might be seventy three.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
A couple camera guys who might have hit seventy five.
I don't really know. Right, there's a lot of us.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
There was a gang of it, and yeah, twenty four
hours into it, we're all friends. Yeah, like seriously, right,
you know what I mean. I mean we're like, you know,
the night before it technically started, we all went to
not all of us, but we went to a night club,
you know, blah blah blah, Like it was just kind
of we're all jamming, just jiving, and it's just like
everyone came there to have a blast. Yeah right, and
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we did, and we freaking you know, we like we
partied in Pamploma. We freaking we were staying at nice places.
We're like all ready to go and get up at
like freaking five thirty in the morning to go actually
run with the bulls. And then you have that very
intense moment of running with the bulls right where you
have like this absolute brotherhood in there where it's like, hey, shit,
we did this together, right, and.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Some of those guys fell down. I mean I fell down.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
I got you know, did you hit I got it
tripped up?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
You get tripped up to? Yeah, I mean you know
I the bull licked me. I've got my whole story
with that, I mean all sorts stories. Freaking Brad crawtfull
got freaking hit by one, like full.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
On knockdown and yeah I got knocked down, Bible and like, there's.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
So many memories that were made during that, and you know,
then we like actually one of the funnest parts that
whole ringing thing was actually when we got to Madrid
and we were on the scooters. Yeah, absolute menaces on
the scooters, right, I mean we were doing twenty eight
thirty miles an hour and these things going downhill.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Whipping in it out of cars.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
There was actually a car that was mad at me
and tried to hit me, and uh dude, they if
they would have got me, Bro, I would have been.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Like usual, gonna pin me in this other freaking car.
I'd have done some damage those little tiny European cars.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Nothing with me. I'm indestructible. But yeah, but like just
that whole.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Thing, right, I was zipping around there and just you know,
we're in a foreign country and gosh, just a camaraderie
in there. It's just it's amazing and that and that
does bleed out to the other ones too. So my
very first one was Iceland. Iceland was like going into
a different planet. Iceland is absolutely gorgeous. I'm gonna take
my it's back there real soon. Actually, we all le
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all kind of going a little bit more than me.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
But yeah, what was a question, because I'm just going
down the rabbit hole of moments just from every adventure trip,
going like, oh that was the best, this was the best,
that was the best.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
So just one highlight that comes to your mind, just
whatever you think is like the number one highlight. Maybe
not running with the bulls, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
For sure the number one highlight for me in terms
of like big picture because I'm a big picture guy.
I don't know if you know, I don't know if
you caught on to that, but big picture is getting
the guys together and just being boys again. It's almost
like you're going which is why I love the loutises.
Right every quarter you're getting together and it's like you're
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camping with your best friends as a child, right, those
the greatest moments is in your childhood, right going camping.
But you're doing this around the world with some of
your best friends that again that you are close with
and that you haven't quite met yet. Yeah, because at
the last adventure trip that I was on was Spain,
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and I was I was at a wedding in April
in Mexico during the Africa trip, which I really really
wanted to go to Africa. Gosh, so bummed out. I'll
probably go and do something my own adventure trip to Africa.
But it's just getting together and letting your inner child
hang out, just being with your best bros, seeing some
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of the wonders of the world. And I don't really
go out of my way to live like a very
luxurious lifestyle. I'm more or less modest, you know, I'm
just that's just me. I'm a low, low key, you know,
quiet money. That's my thing, that's my jam. And when
we go on these adventure trips, no matter how rugged
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an activity might be or are where you are in
the world, Jimmy has put it together where you're still
getting a world class experience and you're still getting kind
of luxurious treatment like there was like Spain was off
the chain. We got. We got the treatment. The entire
time Iceland. We were roughing it a little bit here
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and there in the hostels, which was super fun.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
A little set and setting, right because it's not like
big hotels.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
And I there's yeah exactly. We rented an entire hall.
Somebody was dying. That was a guest there that like
coughed up a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
When was that last the last night?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
I think it was the first night because they were.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh I wasn't in there with you. Remember we got
the extra Airbnb town right.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Anyway, you want to know.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
What I'm gonna talk about Iceland? Okay, I'm gonna tell
you my favorite part. I'll say my favorite part in Iceland.
This is gonna be your favorite part. Two, doude, We
show up to Iceland. So Nick Hellenan and I actually
flew to New York and then stayed over night in
New York, then flew up there with zomb actually the
next morning, right because we wanted to spend a night
in New York, got a couple of bars, speakeasies and
have some fun, right, And we really were only in
New York for about six waking hours, you know what
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I mean, basically got there night.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Anyways, So we show up to Iceland. It's night time.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
We go to this hostel that Jimmy had rented out,
and the guy had lied to Jimmy basically said there
was like fifty beds in there, and there was like yeah,
yeahs not that many, and so he had like quickly
rented an airbnb like the little partments. There was like
nine of us in like three beds down a little
So as we're going down there, someone makes the comment like, hey,
there's a dance club. It's only open on Fridays and Saturdays, right,
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I think it was Saturday or or whatever. We leave
him from there that day anyways, right, so sort of
like shit, let's go this dance club, right, and I'll
never forget it, dude, because we show up right now Iceland.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
People are short, they're like.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Leo size, not all, not all, but like but when
you got me and Dan Blankenship and Alex and some
of these other big boys like rolling around, right, we
look like the freaking I don't know, the football team
showed up, right, And so we go into this club
and it's like midnight, right, and Iceland's super safe, very
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nice people. Everyone's nice. It wasn't like a chance of
like a squall or anything like that. Everyone's just very
cool and nice.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
And you guys are just bigger and else yeh yeah, yea.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
It's kind of it's kind of like VIP in Vegas,
right when you pay for the VIP. Everyone's dope in
that right because it's really expensive. And so we go
in this place and we're like dancing and like there's
a few of the guys I don't know that well, right,
Like Josh Sowards was one of them. I hadn't got
to know him, like really really well yet. I think
we'd only had one loutas maybe two.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
That was so Iceland was in November. We go do
the rope swing.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
It was like May July, no July.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, yeah yeah, so after George.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
It was just after Saint George. Yeah, so right after
our second loutist.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
So Josh is like he's a younger kid at the time, right,
you know, and he's kind of like hang and he
was hanging out in our room with us. We're kind
of having fun, you know, blah blah blah. Anyways, the
first time I ever drank. And so we go to
this club and like Alex buying drinks to everybody, we
started drinking, you know, blah blah blah, but we weren't
really there long enough to get like hammered or anything.
And so so anyways, I have this video of me
and Josh Sowards. We are in the middle of the
dance floor, right, We're sticking out like sore thumbs, and
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they started playing that Rihanna song, that umbrella song. It's
like umbrella, and all of a sudden he hands me
an umbrella. I got my arm round it with the
camera and I'm just like dancing with this umbrella and
the crowd's going crazy in there, right, and Dan Blankenship,
but I've only met for like five minutes at another event.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
He hadn't been to Alutas yet, is just dancing.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Like crazy because Dan loves to dance, right, And it
was just I mean, Bracken was in there, Bracken Hudson,
you know, like he loves to have a good time,
but you know he's very straight. I seld s guy, right,
and it's just like everyone just melted into this room
and no one cared about anything other than having fun. Yeah,
that's probably It's probably my favorite moment. And there's great
moments in Iceland, but that was probably my favorite moment.
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You were in there, right, you were at the club.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I did not go to the club only Yeah, only
half of us went. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
So is that the night we were getting tattoos?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
No, the very very first night.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
This is the thing about adventure trips. You never know
what's gonna pop off. You never know what you're gonna put.
I never know, man, And that's the coolest thing is
that you all connect, right, this is you all connect,
and some on a deeper level than others, and some
you find some things in common that you never thought
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you have in common, and then you just start going
crazy and doing doing some stuff. Right, So like the
scooter thing in Spain, Like not everybody wanted to do
the scooter thing, like me and Hayden and I can't
remember who else. We'd left dinner or hookah or something,
and we just bombed around in Madrid forever. And then
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I had this straw hat that I'd picked up at,
you know, one of these little stands, and I was
just bombing, bombing, and then I'm like, man, I'm not
going to be I'm not going to be able to
wear this hat like I wear it anywhere else, like
back home, Like this is a Madrid hat, right, and
this is a cool thing. Well I turn a corner
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and I start going crazy because I kept like fighting
keeping it on, and I get startled by like a
car in an alley turning its lights on. I'm like oh,
and I picked my head up and it goes and
I'm like, hey, it was message to be dedicated. This
belongs to Madrid, right. But in Iceland, some of the
guys have never gotten tattoos before. And we had Scott
(39:13):
I forgot his last no, no, no, the other Scott,
the guy that had the operation to get his tumors
removed from Oh yeah, he was the guest. He was
the guest, incredible human being. I freaking love that guy.
He'd never gone a tattoo. And I was like, hey,
wouldn't it be fun to get some tattoos some like
Iceland Ice, Icelandic something tattoos. So we had Mike Hardell
(39:34):
had made these t shirts and we had the wayfinder symbol,
the Nordic Wayfinder nice and that was on there and
We're like.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, this is it.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
So we go into a tattoo shop. We convinced the
tattoo artists, because there was only one. We convinced the
tattoo artists to stay open as long as she possibly
could tattoo which was, by the way, we got there
at ten pm.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Was the same night.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
That was the same that was the same night that
you guys were at all at the club.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
It would make sense.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
That does make sense, Yeah, because these guys.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
There was like fifteen or twenty of us, Yeah, that
piled into the small tattoo shop and we hung out
in that tattoo shop until everybody can get tattooed from
ten pm all the way to six pm, because Jimmy
was like, hey, six am, we're at six am. Sorry,
at six we need to do X, Y and Z.
We're meeting at six. So we're like okay. We stayed
there in that tattoo shop til six am, all night,
(40:29):
all night, till people got everybody got tattooed.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Which I was mad because I wanted to get a tattoo.
I brought my wife to that trip, right she showed
up the last day. I thought a bunch of guys
would do that. I guess I started that, yeah, it's
a marketing so but and we were going to get
our her and I had never got tatted, so we're
gonna get our first tattoos in Iceland because I was like,
how cool would this be?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Right?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
And then she decided she didn't want a tattoo in Iceland,
which is fine, right, It's all I was like, damn it,
I could have got a tattoo. Those guys, I think
I'm still going to get that way finer tattoo and
I have a right but like, yeah, like how cool
is that?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
You know?
Speaker 4 (41:03):
I have a bowl in the back of my calf
from Running with the Bulls and Nick Allen has it,
Matt Berae, Josh Sherwood.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'll give it to it. I
have the pattern. Anyone that wants it can so cool
slap it on them.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
But yeah, it's yeah, you're you're gonna have to send
it out to the guys who go for the next
Running with the Bulls.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Yeah, I'm telling you there's a part of that where
I'm like, oh, dude, I the camaraderie is so much
fun on that trip that I want to go. I
just don't want to run with the bulls. Again, I
got everything I wanted out of it, other than it's
stabbed in the ass.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Cheek right like you've got in the experience.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
So I got it all.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, it makes sense. I think the the cool part
about the Adventure trips is everything that you guys were
talking about these stories. That's the beauty of it.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
So if you're thinking about going running with the bulls,
go run with the bulls. If you think about going
to New Zealand and go to New Zealand, like, just
do the adventure trips because you're going to get there
and you're going to create incredible connections and you're just
gonna have a blast doing it, right. I think that's
the really beautiful thing about these aventure trips.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
I'll tell you one of the funniest things that we
did in Africa. It was actually the freaking first day
we got to Africa. Yeah, so we actually got there
a day before Jimmy or something weird time zones or
we'll blame it on that whatever. And so we me
and uh like for the other guys, we we go
walking through this mall and we buy these cookies. Read
(42:18):
between them lines.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
I've heard this story.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
These So then we went and got on an open
air bus tour right and we ate the cookies and dude,
we were just laughing and laughing and laughing. And then
Johannesburg is scary as hell. There's bob wire everywhere, fences
ten feet tall, and we're just at the top of
this bus just laughing our heads off and taking pictures
and just giggling.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
And we stopped at a casino because that's where the
bus was going. For a minute. You know, we're like
peeing in there, just laughing.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
I got all these videos of me and Tim Oyler
just like Yo, I'm like text or like FaceTime in
my wife or I'm like yo, we're here, We're safe,
and she's like.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
What are you guys doing.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
We had these cookies and we got on this bus
and it was like super fun and and it was
just like, oh, it's crazy. So I mean, both of
cookies in a freaking mall. It was just like, there, son,
you're find Yeah, well before the the well before the
adventure trip actually started.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yes, it was. It was fun.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
It was well before it was well before.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
And uh, the other thing that was really funny about
it was there's a place in Johannesburg called chicken licking.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
It's like KFC.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
They're everywhere, but like the signs are like it's just
says chicken licking, but it's like way above the stores,
so it doesn't look like it's connected. Just looks like
there's this tattoo of like chicken licking everywhere. So Jerm's
got like ten pictures of me just like this nother one.
Just just making fun, just making fun of the situation
and having fun and just and that's what every adventure
(43:41):
trips like, at least the one that I go on,
because that's all I want to do. If I I
have prepped to leave, I have set all my general
managers the way that they need to be. I've told
my family what's up. So when I'm there, I'm free.
So we are going to have fun.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
I don't give a shit what happens.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah, you're there to have as much fun as possible. Yeah,
that's like the key principle of what you're going there for,
to have fun.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
It's an adventure.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
It's an adventure.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Yeah, I like that. Got the adventure trips.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Can't wait. It's gonna be a blast. So thank you
guys for doing this, we'll kind of wrap up here
in the podcast. I always like to end the podcast
just first person that comes to your mind, give him
a little shout out, give him some love, Leo, you
got someone on top of your mind.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
Yeah, big shout out to Jimmy. Very very grateful for him.
I never knew him. I never knew he existed a
few years ago until a mutual friend had told me
to follow him on Instagram. And the guy has put
me on a has put me in front of other people,
and put me in rooms that have legitimately changed my life. Yeah, forever.
(44:43):
I love so, I love Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
I love you.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
If you're listening, and just shout out to anybody out
there that wants to join the group or is already
in the group and is kind of hesitant to get
open and honest and vulnerable, do it. Yeah, absolutely, do it.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Love that Mark.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
I'm gonna send some love out to Jake Nold. So
he's uh, he's just doing the right things in life, man.
Him and him and Will's Nelson are they work a
grit right, and they're really working hard and growing their
teams and it's hard and they're going through growing pains
personally and professionally, and there's like all this cool stuff
going on with them. And he reached out to me
(45:22):
and a couple of other guys, Bracking and Ben Care
and he was like, hey, guys, we don't know what
we don't know, Like we're coming into town. We said
up a meeting with you guys. We love and respect
you guys, and we just we need help.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, And I was like, this is literally like two
days ago.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Then this meeting is happening on Tuesday, and I'm like,
that is so cool that these guys because they're younger, right,
and they're single, and their lives are a little bit
different than ours, but they were me Bracken and Ben
were able to to present to them in a way
that they respect us and trust us and want some
mentorship from us.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
And this is like true vulnerability to me, right.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
I think vulnerability and confessions get a little mess stop right, Like,
if you confess to something that you did ten years ago,
it's not really being vulnerable, right. Being vulnerable is when
you're in the middle of it and you reach out
the guys, I'm drowning a little bit, like help me,
you know, And and they could and by the way
Will's dad is a freaking billionaire, right. Will's dad is awesome.
He's a powerhouse in business, right, and he's just a
(46:19):
great dude. And it's like, and still these guys want
to go into the group, to the men's group where
they're comfortable and get you know, and I'm sure they've
hit Will's dat's up, right, but like they just want
a different opinion. And I just respect that from those guys.
I And it's the same rules that Leon and I have, Right,
we give advice, you take what you want exactly, you know,
we don't judge it for it.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yeah, so there's my shout out. Jake Nol love that.
Speaker 5 (46:41):
I'll give a shout out Michael Boswell.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Group one. Just had lunch with him on Tuesday actually,
so he's been on the top of my mind. We
had a good conversation about a couple of things. So yeah, yeah,
love Boz. All right, thank you guys for coming on
the podcast. If anyone wants to reach out to you,
should they just go to the wad app grab your phone.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Number, but absolutely, yeah, do that or Instagram.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
You're on Instagram, hit me up. I am at real
Estate Underscore. Leo Garcia on the ig perfect mark.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
What's yours and I'm President McCormack.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yeah, perfect, Or you can go to the w app
grab their number, text him, give me, give me a shout,
gear up, lunch, whatever works.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
So I won't do lunch with you, but you're more
than welcome to come to my office and bring me
a coke zero. I will make time for you.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
Yes, actually that's fine.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Well, thank you guys for doing this.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
We'll see you guys next week. Thanks brother, thank you
for listening to another episode of the We Are the
Day podcast. If you want to join this incredible community,
this incredible brotherhood of men, you can go on Instagram
at mister Jimmy Rex or at watmovement dot com. Click
the link of the bio you can join the tribe.
To tribe is open right now directly through there, you
(47:44):
could also go to join Watt dot com that is
j O I N W A T T dot com.
You could also go to WATFID dot com w A
T T v I D dot com to go watch
the We Are the They documentary as well. If you
have any other questions, feel free to reach out to
Jimmy directly or hit us up on Instagram. Thank you
again for listening to the podcast, and it is that
(48:04):
time once again for me to bid you all I
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